| Tassadar | okay, my cmdline was missing these 3 parameters: "access=m2 quiet splash" | 00:08 |
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| Tassadar | I added them, and onboard works like a charm | 00:08 |
| Tassadar | that is...unexpected Oo | 00:08 |
| Tassadar | something still crashes when I hide onboard and show it again, window's decorations disappear and input from onboard no longer gets into textfields | 00:10 |
| Jef91 | sfeole you still around? | 01:51 |
| vanhoof | Jef91: the rootfs.img is derived from live build | 01:59 |
| vanhoof | tar/plain format | 01:59 |
| vanhoof | you can download it, mount it loopback and take a look | 01:59 |
| Jef91 | vanhoof do you know what edits are made to the file system to allow it to be setup properly from the rootfs.tar.gz on the nexus 7? | 01:59 |
| vanhoof | http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=285 | 02:00 |
| vanhoof | its just a quantal or raring build w/ a seed trimming out the fat, nothing fancy | 02:00 |
| Jef91 | So there is nothing extra added to the file system to allow it to boot on the nexus 7? | 02:01 |
| vanhoof | Jef91: checkout ubuntu-defaults-nexus7 package in the ppa | 02:02 |
| vanhoof | anything magic is handled there | 02:02 |
| vanhoof | but those are largely quantal specific, where the image was released at UDS | 02:02 |
| vanhoof | not for daily raring builds | 02:02 |
| vanhoof | Jef91: you've seen the build.sh script, yeah? | 02:04 |
| Jef91 | yea looking at it now | 02:04 |
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| Jef91 | where the is ppa for that pacakge again vanhoof? | 02:11 |
| Jef91 | nvm found it | 02:12 |
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| Jef91 | hrm my custom nexus rootfs is giving me: | 03:32 |
| Jef91 | "mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory" and "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init" and then it dumps me to a busy box. Any suggestions as to what I might be missing? | 03:32 |
| mjrosenb | Jef91: you should not be mounting /dev anywhere | 03:34 |
| mjrosenb | /dev/sdfoo or /dev/mmcblkbar sure | 03:35 |
| Jef91 | hrm | 03:35 |
| Jef91 | if I try to install the 8gb image on a 16gb nexus 7 will it have issues? | 03:37 |
| infinity | mjrosenb: I assume that's an initrd moving the mount from /dev in the initrd to /root/dev before pivoting root. | 03:38 |
| infinity | Jef91: ^ | 03:38 |
| infinity | Jef91: And the last message is also from an initrd telling you it can't find /sbin/init on /root | 03:39 |
| Jef91 | my filesystem has a /sbin/init file | 03:39 |
| infinity | Jef91: So, your rootfs isn't being mounted, or it's being mounted but is empty and/or corrupt. | 03:39 |
| Jef91 | or is it referencing something else? | 03:39 |
| infinity | From the POV of the initrd, your filesystem really doesn't have init. | 03:39 |
| infinity | Why that is, I can't say. | 03:39 |
| Jef91 | Alrighty. | 03:39 |
| infinity | (It also doesn't have /dev) | 03:40 |
| infinity | In other words, it's probably just not seeing it right. | 03:40 |
| Jef91 | My file system is Debian Wheezy ARMHF | 03:40 |
| Jef91 | But I've recompiled the Ubuntu nexus 7 packages, thinking they would work with it | 03:40 |
| Jef91 | but that might not be enough | 03:40 |
| Jef91 | namely I've installed the "tarball-installer" package along with "ubuntu-defaults-nexus7" any idea if I need something more than those two to make the rootfs install via fastboot? | 03:41 |
| infinity | Oh. | 03:42 |
| infinity | Did you also generate an initrd after installing tarball-installer? | 03:42 |
| infinity | That initrd is the one you should be booting with. | 03:43 |
| Jef91 | ha whoops | 03:44 |
| Jef91 | I did not | 03:44 |
| Jef91 | How abouts would I go about doing that infinity? | 03:44 |
| Jef91 | I just copied over the /boot from the Ubuntu FS | 03:44 |
| Jef91 | I moved over /boot, /lib/firmware and /lib/modules | 03:45 |
| infinity | update-initramfs -u in your new rootfs. | 03:45 |
| Jef91 | (that is what I have done for a number of other ARM devices, wasn't sure if this was different) | 03:45 |
| Jef91 | Will there be any conflicts if I had copied over those directories from Ubuntu? | 03:45 |
| infinity | Erm. This is a bit more involved than just copying files around, if you're wanting it to *install* the same way our images do. | 03:46 |
| infinity | See live-build/auto/build from the livecd-rootfs source. | 03:46 |
| infinity | Search for nexus7 | 03:46 |
| infinity | We create the boot.img with abootimg, and then create the rootfs, which is an ext4 sparse filesystem with a tarball inside it. | 03:47 |
| infinity | Then you flash both those bits, and the boot.img runs the tarball installer. | 03:47 |
| Jef91 | Ahh I didn't create my own boot.img | 03:47 |
| infinity | If that's not what you actually wanted, then you didn't want tarball-installer. | 03:47 |
| Jef91 | I'd just been using one of the ones from Ubuntu | 03:47 |
| Jef91 | I'll generate my own | 03:48 |
| * Jef91 will stop trying to shortcut | 03:48 | |
| vanhoof | Jef91: what variant (8, 16, 32, 32+3g)? | 03:51 |
| Jef91 | 16 vanhoof | 03:52 |
| Jef91 | So I need to generate a fresh boot.img even with the same kernel Ubuntu uses? | 03:52 |
| vanhoof | ah ok, you should be good w/ p9 then for rootfs | 03:52 |
| vanhoof | 3g is p10 | 03:52 |
| vanhoof | (partition wise) | 03:52 |
| vanhoof | well it needs to be flashed to the boot partition | 03:53 |
| vanhoof | since tarball-installer does its magic on first boot then vanishes | 03:54 |
| vanhoof | after that flash-kernel works as usual | 03:54 |
| SailorMoon | So whats the deal with Ubuntu for Nexus 7? | 03:54 |
| SailorMoon | Is it being developed for fun or should we expect something serious of it? | 03:55 |
| vanhoof | its quite active | 03:55 |
| vanhoof | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-desktop-targets-for-embedded.html | 03:55 |
| SailorMoon | from what ive seen, in its current state, its a bit unusable | 03:55 |
| vanhoof | SailorMoon: bits are still being migrated from the quantal -> raring daily | 03:56 |
| Jef91 | aside from the fact that Unity is a memory hog it works pretty well SailorMoon | 03:56 |
| SailorMoon | i do hope it becomes usable someday, I have an OTG cable and a USB hub i use on my N7 for a mouse and keyboard, using that on Ubuntu would be Epic. | 03:56 |
| SailorMoon | I did see there were nightlies, and downloaded one, but i couldnt manage to figure out how to install it | 03:57 |
| vanhoof | SailorMoon: thats how I do most of my work (OTG) | 03:57 |
| SailorMoon | Was like a .gz with a .raw inside it | 03:57 |
| vanhoof | usb serial is new (and nice too) | 03:57 |
| vanhoof | connect and `screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200` | 03:57 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: The wiki has pretty clear instructions on what to do with the two downloaded files. | 03:57 |
| SailorMoon | The wiki doesnt say anything about the Nightlies | 03:58 |
| SailorMoon | It says how to install the .img files, wich i already knew. | 03:58 |
| infinity | Which nightlies are you refering to? | 03:58 |
| vanhoof | install https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/+archive/ubuntu-nexus7-installer | 03:58 |
| vanhoof | and if you choose to re-download, it'll pull the new daily | 03:58 |
| infinity | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Manually_Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7 <-- How to install dailies. | 03:59 |
| SailorMoon | infinity: this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ | 03:59 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: Yeah, the above tells you exactly what to do with those two files. | 03:59 |
| SailorMoon | yeah step 2 says "gunzip", wtf is a gunzip | 03:59 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: "gunzip foo.img.gz" | 03:59 |
| vanhoof | SailorMoon: install the package from the ppa | 03:59 |
| vanhoof | it does it for you | 03:59 |
| SailorMoon | I'm running Windows on my Desktop lol | 03:59 |
| vanhoof | oh | 03:59 |
| infinity | Do you have a fastboot binary for Windows? | 04:00 |
| SailorMoon | Tried using 7z but it just showd a .raw inside | 04:00 |
| SailorMoon | Yep | 04:00 |
| infinity | If so, these instructions will work just fine, but yes, you'll need something to unzip. | 04:00 |
| infinity | Like good ol' winzip. | 04:00 |
| SailorMoon | i used 7zip but again, file.raw inside | 04:00 |
| SailorMoon | Also tried Winrar | 04:00 |
| infinity | Oh, if they're renaming it to file.raw instead of file.img, that doesn't really matter. | 04:01 |
| Jef91 | SailorMoon: the install instructions are pretty clear you need Ubuntu on your desktop in it's current state :P | 04:01 |
| infinity | Jef91: Not really true. With a sane fastboot, it should work from Win32 too. | 04:01 |
| SailorMoon | so i should just assume .raw is the name of the image? | 04:01 |
| SailorMoon | Jef91: ive said like 10 times, i've installed the normal .img files fine | 04:02 |
| SailorMoon | these compressed files dont contain .img files | 04:02 |
| SailorMoon | and confused me | 04:02 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: Well, it is, in fact, image.raw at one point in the build process. We likely rename it. | 04:02 |
| SailorMoon | Good to know | 04:02 |
| SailorMoon | i didnt know that before, confused me TT lol | 04:02 |
| infinity | So, your unzippy thing is just being a bit too smart, I suspect. | 04:02 |
| vanhoof | infinity: rename to .img? | 04:03 |
| * vanhoof has no clue on win | 04:03 | |
| infinity | That said, you could get gzip/gunzip for Win32 from here: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gzip.htm | 04:03 |
| infinity | vanhoof: The name of the image is completely meaningless, it's just a raw blob of blobbiness anyway, fastboot doesn't care. | 04:04 |
| infinity | That said, gunzip will definitely give you The Right Thing, I have no idea what WinRAR for 7zip will do (though, they should be doing similarly Right Things) | 04:04 |
| infinity | s/for/or/ | 04:04 |
| vanhoof | cygwin? :) | 04:04 |
| infinity | This gzip is native, no need for cyg. | 04:05 |
| vanhoof | infinity: right, just never used fastboot on win myself | 04:05 |
| infinity | vanhoof: Fastboot on Win32 is far better tested than on Linux, so it better work. :P | 04:05 |
| vanhoof | infinity: heh | 04:05 |
| infinity | (Sadly, we're not actually the dominant OS in the world... Crazy talk, I know) | 04:05 |
| vanhoof | infinity: say it aint so! | 04:05 |
| infinity | It saddens me too. | 04:06 |
| SailorMoon | what is dup? | 04:06 |
| SailorMoon | Its completely unrelated but you guys r smart n stuff | 04:06 |
| infinity | vanhoof: Anyhow, we could totally whip up a quick-n-dirty installer (probably not a GUI, unless you want to do actual work, but we could script something and bundle it with gzip, etc) for Win32.. | 04:06 |
| vanhoof | infinity: totally out of my element there, perhaps a holiday venture, if i use windows, cygwin is the first thing installed ;) | 04:07 |
| infinity | vanhoof: Yeah, native is much saner in this case. Though, I tend to agree, Windows without a sane POSIX environment drives me batty. | 04:07 |
| vanhoof | infinity: s!!! ;) | 04:08 |
| infinity | Heck, it's the only thing that makes MacOS usable. I spent about 10 minutes trying to "intuitively" deduce how to help a friend with an OSX problem the other day before I just broke down, hit a terminal, and beat it with a hammer from the back end. | 04:08 |
| infinity | Intuitive GUI, my ass. | 04:08 |
| vanhoof | same w/ OSX, fink! | 04:09 |
| vanhoof | lol | 04:09 |
| * vanhoof envisions being punched by infinity at some point | 04:09 | |
| infinity | If I used OSX at all, I'd likely use fink. But, why would I use OSX? | 04:10 |
| infinity | That sort of implies wanting the GUI which, as stated above, is completely unusable to me. | 04:10 |
| vanhoof | heh | 04:10 |
| infinity | It also implies wanting the hardware, and I'm allergic to mice with fewer than three buttons. | 04:10 |
| infinity | If Lenovo ever drops the middle button, I might just find a new career, computers will be dead to me. | 04:11 |
| vanhoof | infinity: im dreading moving away from my x220 | 04:11 |
| * vanhoof is not a fan of the new keyboards | 04:12 | |
| infinity | Oh, really? I think they've actually done a stellar job on their chicklet keboards. | 04:12 |
| vanhoof | you like em? | 04:12 |
| infinity | They're about 20x more usable than the Apple/Samsung keyboards. | 04:12 |
| infinity | I actually really like the feel. | 04:12 |
| infinity | And they certainly gunk up a lot less than the old skool Thinkpad keyboards. | 04:12 |
| vanhoof | i just love my old reliable lenovo keyboard | 04:12 |
| infinity | I used to have to replace mine every year or so. | 04:12 |
| vanhoof | thought I am not a user of the lenovo nipple :) | 04:13 |
| vanhoof | people think im crazy | 04:13 |
| infinity | I dunno. It's not AS NICE a touch as the classic ThinkPad keyboards, I won't pretend it is, but they've done a really good job. | 04:13 |
| infinity | They're still very IBM/Lenovo ThinkPadish. | 04:13 |
| infinity | Only took me a week or so to get my typing speed back into the 120+ WPM range after switching from old to new ThinkPads. | 04:13 |
| infinity | Now I bounce between the two, and they both work well. | 04:14 |
| vanhoof | infinity: I think i'll skip the x230 | 04:14 |
| vanhoof | see what haswell and lenovo have in next year | 04:14 |
| infinity | Well, I doubt they'll bring back the old keyboards. | 04:14 |
| vanhoof | yeah | 04:14 |
| infinity | Does Toshiba still ship them? | 04:14 |
| infinity | They were the only other vendor with this style of keyboard in recent years. | 04:15 |
| vanhoof | not sure, havent spent much time w/ toshiba | 04:15 |
| infinity | (Shame their laptops were otherwise hideous) | 04:15 |
| vanhoof | i dunno, big thing with me and thinkpads is accessability | 04:16 |
| infinity | So, do you know any fans of the old skool keyboards who'd want to buy a near-mint T420s? :P | 04:16 |
| vanhoof | yeah i want a new hdd, easy ... pop in mstata in pcie, easy | 04:16 |
| infinity | Toshiba was modular long before IBM was. | 04:16 |
| vanhoof | i hate having to rip apart a laptop to add in new parts | 04:16 |
| infinity | Though, it was more than 15y ago that I was doing laptop service. | 04:17 |
| infinity | I'm sure things changed. | 04:17 |
| infinity | A bit. | 04:17 |
| infinity | Either way, a quick poke at their website shows they've also gone chicklet. | 04:17 |
| vanhoof | now i just need to sweet talk ogra_ into sending me a new panel for my ac100 :) | 04:18 |
| infinity | Oh, now that's a keyboard I find unusable. | 04:18 |
| infinity | The only one worse than the ac100 was the tf101. | 04:18 |
| * vanhoof misses his, shame the panel decided to die | 04:18 | |
| vanhoof | yeah but for grab and go, its an awesome machine | 04:19 |
| infinity | The weight was hard to beat. | 04:19 |
| infinity | I eventually stopped using mine, though. | 04:19 |
| vanhoof | this x220 w/ a 9 cell battery is small but heavy :) | 04:19 |
| infinity | I keep tossing around the idea of replacing it with a Chromebook. | 04:19 |
| vanhoof | same here | 04:19 |
| infinity | Honestly, though, the 420s is actually stupid light and thin, for all the beef inside. | 04:20 |
| vanhoof | was looking at the install for it and it looks a mess | 04:20 |
| infinity | So I'm not sure I need more laptops. | 04:20 |
| infinity | Streamlining the Chromebook install and producing images for it was about the only argument I had for buying one. | 04:20 |
| infinity | Cause I think it would be a lovely all-in-one dev kit to recommend to people. | 04:21 |
| infinity | Sure beats saying "okay, go buy a Panda... And now buy a hard drive... And a monitor... And..." | 04:21 |
| vanhoof | heh | 04:21 |
| vanhoof | i think the install could be greatly condenced, everything i've found it way to manual | 04:22 |
| infinity | Oh, we could make it reasonably slick. | 04:22 |
| infinity | Except for the initial faff to get it into dev mode. | 04:22 |
| vanhoof | well same w/ n7 | 04:23 |
| * infinity nods. | 04:23 | |
| infinity | Meh. Would have made a good holiday project, but there's no way I can get an American to ship me one before January now. | 04:24 |
| vanhoof | infinity: i work for beer | 04:24 |
| vanhoof | ;) | 04:25 |
| infinity | vanhoof: I meant there's just no way (short of FedEx overnight, twice) that it would get here in time for me to do anything with it over the holidays. | 04:25 |
| infinity | vanhoof: And overnighting it from a retailer to you, and then from you to me, would make it a fair chunk more expensive than the sticker price. :P | 04:25 |
| infinity | Sort of defeats the purpose of buying cheap hardware. | 04:26 |
| vanhoof | infinity: yeah but then you owe me archive work ;) | 04:26 |
| vanhoof | win/win | 04:26 |
| vanhoof | lulz | 04:26 |
| infinity | Oh, if you want to send me one for free, I'm okay with owing people favours... | 04:26 |
| vanhoof | looool | 04:26 |
| infinity | It's not like I haven't been working the last 5 days, despite being on "holidays". | 04:27 |
| infinity | Grr. | 04:27 |
| vanhoof | yeah seriously | 04:27 |
| infinity | May as well work on something I enjoy, instead of emergency SRUs for insane insanity. | 04:27 |
| SailorMoon | Installing COM24 ? | 04:37 |
| SailorMoon | COM26? | 04:37 |
| SailorMoon | COM32? D: | 04:38 |
| * SailorMoon panics | 04:38 | |
| infinity | USB serial on Windows gets curious numbering. | 04:39 |
| infinity | FSVO "curious" that amounts to "completely nonsensical". | 04:40 |
| SailorMoon | lol | 04:40 |
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| SailorMoon | This nightly/daily is booting different =o | 04:41 |
| SailorMoon | Is using Gnome/unity really a good idea on a device like the Nexus 7? | 04:41 |
| infinity | It's more a proof of concept at this point than a finished product. | 04:42 |
| infinity | And a good baseline for people to go hunting memory/power/etc issues. | 04:42 |
| SailorMoon | So you dont think we'll be using Gnome later on? :3 | 04:43 |
| Jef91 | So I got my file system loaded up with the installer scripts | 04:44 |
| Jef91 | It is getting kernel panic referencing various libnih .so files it is missing | 04:44 |
| Jef91 | but I am making progress | 04:44 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: I can't say (because I honestly don't know -- ignorance is bliss) what direction the mobile/slate efforts will go in, but any work put into gnome/compiz/unity certainly won't be wasted effort. | 04:51 |
| infinity | SailorMoon: Even if it doesn't end up being used for slates, I won't mind my laptop drawing 20% less power. :P | 04:51 |
| SailorMoon | We need a Dock for this :3 | 04:57 |
| SailorMoon | Turn it into a netbook lolz | 04:58 |
| infinity | I need a way to both charge and have an external HDD, and I'll be happy. | 04:58 |
| SailorMoon | a dock with its own Power cable | 04:58 |
| SailorMoon | make it! | 04:58 |
| SailorMoon | The build im using doesnt allow for input, not from on screen keys or from usb keyboard. | 05:00 |
| SailorMoon | really weird. | 05:00 |
| Jef91 | So - I've got my file system booted up on the 7 - but the touch screen is non-functional. Any idea what ubuntu package contains the drivers so I can rebuild them? | 05:19 |
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| Jef91 | Anyone know which ubuntu package contains the touch screen drivers for th eneus 7? | 13:44 |
| kulve | Jef91: something-evdev | 13:47 |
| kulve | if you mean the X.Org driver | 13:47 |
| Jef91 | X on my custom image starts fine and at the right resolution | 13:47 |
| Jef91 | but the sccreen doesn't react to touch input | 13:48 |
| Jef91 | hrm - I already have xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed kulve | 13:57 |
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| Jef91 | hrm, updated EV dev drivers got my touchscreen working. Just need to figure out why the touch points are being mirrored. Calibration issue odds are. | 15:15 |
| Jef91 | sfeole: I want to say thanks for the help yesterday - I was able to get my own image going based on the 12.10 images | 15:32 |
| Tassadar | Anyone with 3g nexus7 here? Could you please run "blkid" and tell me what does it says? | 15:32 |
| sfeole | Jef91: | 16:09 |
| sfeole | Jef91: hey! Great!, I see you had a lengthy convo last night. Glad everyone could help you | 16:09 |
| Jef91 | mhmm - once I get the touch screen configurations right - I'll have some e17 goodness for the nexus7 to share | 16:10 |
| prpplague | a gentle reminder that the Call For Participation for the Embedded Linux Conference deadline for submissions is Jan 4th! get your presenation proposals submitted soon! http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp | 17:10 |
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| Jef91 | Anyone know of a tool/configuration file for the evdev xorg driver | 20:59 |
| stgraber | janimo, ogra_: hey, just trying lxc again on my nexus7, looks like the kernel is missing the bridge modules | 21:39 |
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