[00:08] okay, my cmdline was missing these 3 parameters: "access=m2 quiet splash" [00:08] I added them, and onboard works like a charm [00:08] that is...unexpected Oo [00:10] something still crashes when I hide onboard and show it again, window's decorations disappear and input from onboard no longer gets into textfields [01:51] sfeole you still around? [01:59] Jef91: the rootfs.img is derived from live build [01:59] tar/plain format [01:59] you can download it, mount it loopback and take a look [01:59] vanhoof do you know what edits are made to the file system to allow it to be setup properly from the rootfs.tar.gz on the nexus 7? [02:00] http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=285 [02:00] its just a quantal or raring build w/ a seed trimming out the fat, nothing fancy [02:01] So there is nothing extra added to the file system to allow it to boot on the nexus 7? [02:02] Jef91: checkout ubuntu-defaults-nexus7 package in the ppa [02:02] anything magic is handled there [02:02] but those are largely quantal specific, where the image was released at UDS [02:02] not for daily raring builds [02:04] Jef91: you've seen the build.sh script, yeah? [02:04] yea looking at it now === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [02:11] where the is ppa for that pacakge again vanhoof? [02:12] nvm found it === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [03:32] hrm my custom nexus rootfs is giving me: [03:32] "mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory" and "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init" and then it dumps me to a busy box. Any suggestions as to what I might be missing? [03:34] Jef91: you should not be mounting /dev anywhere [03:35] /dev/sdfoo or /dev/mmcblkbar sure [03:35] hrm [03:37] if I try to install the 8gb image on a 16gb nexus 7 will it have issues? [03:38] mjrosenb: I assume that's an initrd moving the mount from /dev in the initrd to /root/dev before pivoting root. [03:38] Jef91: ^ [03:39] Jef91: And the last message is also from an initrd telling you it can't find /sbin/init on /root [03:39] my filesystem has a /sbin/init file [03:39] Jef91: So, your rootfs isn't being mounted, or it's being mounted but is empty and/or corrupt. [03:39] or is it referencing something else? [03:39] From the POV of the initrd, your filesystem really doesn't have init. [03:39] Why that is, I can't say. [03:39] Alrighty. [03:40] (It also doesn't have /dev) [03:40] In other words, it's probably just not seeing it right. [03:40] My file system is Debian Wheezy ARMHF [03:40] But I've recompiled the Ubuntu nexus 7 packages, thinking they would work with it [03:40] but that might not be enough [03:41] namely I've installed the "tarball-installer" package along with "ubuntu-defaults-nexus7" any idea if I need something more than those two to make the rootfs install via fastboot? [03:42] Oh. [03:42] Did you also generate an initrd after installing tarball-installer? [03:43] That initrd is the one you should be booting with. [03:44] ha whoops [03:44] I did not [03:44] How abouts would I go about doing that infinity? [03:44] I just copied over the /boot from the Ubuntu FS [03:45] I moved over /boot, /lib/firmware and /lib/modules [03:45] update-initramfs -u in your new rootfs. [03:45] (that is what I have done for a number of other ARM devices, wasn't sure if this was different) [03:45] Will there be any conflicts if I had copied over those directories from Ubuntu? [03:46] Erm. This is a bit more involved than just copying files around, if you're wanting it to *install* the same way our images do. [03:46] See live-build/auto/build from the livecd-rootfs source. [03:46] Search for nexus7 [03:47] We create the boot.img with abootimg, and then create the rootfs, which is an ext4 sparse filesystem with a tarball inside it. [03:47] Then you flash both those bits, and the boot.img runs the tarball installer. [03:47] Ahh I didn't create my own boot.img [03:47] If that's not what you actually wanted, then you didn't want tarball-installer. [03:47] I'd just been using one of the ones from Ubuntu [03:48] I'll generate my own [03:48] * Jef91 will stop trying to shortcut [03:51] Jef91: what variant (8, 16, 32, 32+3g)? [03:52] 16 vanhoof [03:52] So I need to generate a fresh boot.img even with the same kernel Ubuntu uses? [03:52] ah ok, you should be good w/ p9 then for rootfs [03:52] 3g is p10 [03:52] (partition wise) [03:53] well it needs to be flashed to the boot partition [03:54] since tarball-installer does its magic on first boot then vanishes [03:54] after that flash-kernel works as usual [03:54] So whats the deal with Ubuntu for Nexus 7? [03:55] Is it being developed for fun or should we expect something serious of it? [03:55] its quite active [03:55] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-desktop-targets-for-embedded.html [03:55] from what ive seen, in its current state, its a bit unusable [03:56] SailorMoon: bits are still being migrated from the quantal -> raring daily [03:56] aside from the fact that Unity is a memory hog it works pretty well SailorMoon [03:56] i do hope it becomes usable someday, I have an OTG cable and a USB hub i use on my N7 for a mouse and keyboard, using that on Ubuntu would be Epic. [03:57] I did see there were nightlies, and downloaded one, but i couldnt manage to figure out how to install it [03:57] SailorMoon: thats how I do most of my work (OTG) [03:57] Was like a .gz with a .raw inside it [03:57] usb serial is new (and nice too) [03:57] connect and `screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200` [03:57] SailorMoon: The wiki has pretty clear instructions on what to do with the two downloaded files. [03:58] The wiki doesnt say anything about the Nightlies [03:58] It says how to install the .img files, wich i already knew. [03:58] Which nightlies are you refering to? [03:58] install https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/+archive/ubuntu-nexus7-installer [03:58] and if you choose to re-download, it'll pull the new daily [03:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Manually_Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7 <-- How to install dailies. [03:59] infinity: this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ [03:59] SailorMoon: Yeah, the above tells you exactly what to do with those two files. [03:59] yeah step 2 says "gunzip", wtf is a gunzip [03:59] SailorMoon: "gunzip foo.img.gz" [03:59] SailorMoon: install the package from the ppa [03:59] it does it for you [03:59] I'm running Windows on my Desktop lol [03:59] oh [04:00] Do you have a fastboot binary for Windows? [04:00] Tried using 7z but it just showd a .raw inside [04:00] Yep [04:00] If so, these instructions will work just fine, but yes, you'll need something to unzip. [04:00] Like good ol' winzip. [04:00] i used 7zip but again, file.raw inside [04:00] Also tried Winrar [04:01] Oh, if they're renaming it to file.raw instead of file.img, that doesn't really matter. [04:01] SailorMoon: the install instructions are pretty clear you need Ubuntu on your desktop in it's current state :P [04:01] Jef91: Not really true. With a sane fastboot, it should work from Win32 too. [04:01] so i should just assume .raw is the name of the image? [04:02] Jef91: ive said like 10 times, i've installed the normal .img files fine [04:02] these compressed files dont contain .img files [04:02] and confused me [04:02] SailorMoon: Well, it is, in fact, image.raw at one point in the build process. We likely rename it. [04:02] Good to know [04:02] i didnt know that before, confused me TT lol [04:02] So, your unzippy thing is just being a bit too smart, I suspect. [04:03] infinity: rename to .img? [04:03] * vanhoof has no clue on win [04:03] That said, you could get gzip/gunzip for Win32 from here: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gzip.htm [04:04] vanhoof: The name of the image is completely meaningless, it's just a raw blob of blobbiness anyway, fastboot doesn't care. [04:04] That said, gunzip will definitely give you The Right Thing, I have no idea what WinRAR for 7zip will do (though, they should be doing similarly Right Things) [04:04] s/for/or/ [04:04] cygwin? :) [04:05] This gzip is native, no need for cyg. [04:05] infinity: right, just never used fastboot on win myself [04:05] vanhoof: Fastboot on Win32 is far better tested than on Linux, so it better work. :P [04:05] infinity: heh [04:05] (Sadly, we're not actually the dominant OS in the world... Crazy talk, I know) [04:05] infinity: say it aint so! [04:06] It saddens me too. [04:06] what is dup? [04:06] Its completely unrelated but you guys r smart n stuff [04:06] vanhoof: Anyhow, we could totally whip up a quick-n-dirty installer (probably not a GUI, unless you want to do actual work, but we could script something and bundle it with gzip, etc) for Win32.. [04:07] infinity: totally out of my element there, perhaps a holiday venture, if i use windows, cygwin is the first thing installed ;) [04:07] vanhoof: Yeah, native is much saner in this case. Though, I tend to agree, Windows without a sane POSIX environment drives me batty. [04:08] infinity: s!!! ;) [04:08] Heck, it's the only thing that makes MacOS usable. I spent about 10 minutes trying to "intuitively" deduce how to help a friend with an OSX problem the other day before I just broke down, hit a terminal, and beat it with a hammer from the back end. [04:08] Intuitive GUI, my ass. [04:09] same w/ OSX, fink! [04:09] lol [04:09] * vanhoof envisions being punched by infinity at some point [04:10] If I used OSX at all, I'd likely use fink. But, why would I use OSX? [04:10] That sort of implies wanting the GUI which, as stated above, is completely unusable to me. [04:10] heh [04:10] It also implies wanting the hardware, and I'm allergic to mice with fewer than three buttons. [04:11] If Lenovo ever drops the middle button, I might just find a new career, computers will be dead to me. [04:11] infinity: im dreading moving away from my x220 [04:12] * vanhoof is not a fan of the new keyboards [04:12] Oh, really? I think they've actually done a stellar job on their chicklet keboards. [04:12] you like em? [04:12] They're about 20x more usable than the Apple/Samsung keyboards. [04:12] I actually really like the feel. [04:12] And they certainly gunk up a lot less than the old skool Thinkpad keyboards. [04:12] i just love my old reliable lenovo keyboard [04:12] I used to have to replace mine every year or so. [04:13] thought I am not a user of the lenovo nipple :) [04:13] people think im crazy [04:13] I dunno. It's not AS NICE a touch as the classic ThinkPad keyboards, I won't pretend it is, but they've done a really good job. [04:13] They're still very IBM/Lenovo ThinkPadish. [04:13] Only took me a week or so to get my typing speed back into the 120+ WPM range after switching from old to new ThinkPads. [04:14] Now I bounce between the two, and they both work well. [04:14] infinity: I think i'll skip the x230 [04:14] see what haswell and lenovo have in next year [04:14] Well, I doubt they'll bring back the old keyboards. [04:14] yeah [04:14] Does Toshiba still ship them? [04:15] They were the only other vendor with this style of keyboard in recent years. [04:15] not sure, havent spent much time w/ toshiba [04:15] (Shame their laptops were otherwise hideous) [04:16] i dunno, big thing with me and thinkpads is accessability [04:16] So, do you know any fans of the old skool keyboards who'd want to buy a near-mint T420s? :P [04:16] yeah i want a new hdd, easy ... pop in mstata in pcie, easy [04:16] Toshiba was modular long before IBM was. [04:16] i hate having to rip apart a laptop to add in new parts [04:17] Though, it was more than 15y ago that I was doing laptop service. [04:17] I'm sure things changed. [04:17] A bit. [04:17] Either way, a quick poke at their website shows they've also gone chicklet. [04:18] now i just need to sweet talk ogra_ into sending me a new panel for my ac100 :) [04:18] Oh, now that's a keyboard I find unusable. [04:18] The only one worse than the ac100 was the tf101. [04:18] * vanhoof misses his, shame the panel decided to die [04:19] yeah but for grab and go, its an awesome machine [04:19] The weight was hard to beat. [04:19] I eventually stopped using mine, though. [04:19] this x220 w/ a 9 cell battery is small but heavy :) [04:19] I keep tossing around the idea of replacing it with a Chromebook. [04:19] same here [04:20] Honestly, though, the 420s is actually stupid light and thin, for all the beef inside. [04:20] was looking at the install for it and it looks a mess [04:20] So I'm not sure I need more laptops. [04:20] Streamlining the Chromebook install and producing images for it was about the only argument I had for buying one. [04:21] Cause I think it would be a lovely all-in-one dev kit to recommend to people. [04:21] Sure beats saying "okay, go buy a Panda... And now buy a hard drive... And a monitor... And..." [04:21] heh [04:22] i think the install could be greatly condenced, everything i've found it way to manual [04:22] Oh, we could make it reasonably slick. [04:22] Except for the initial faff to get it into dev mode. [04:23] well same w/ n7 [04:23] * infinity nods. [04:24] Meh. Would have made a good holiday project, but there's no way I can get an American to ship me one before January now. [04:24] infinity: i work for beer [04:25] ;) [04:25] vanhoof: I meant there's just no way (short of FedEx overnight, twice) that it would get here in time for me to do anything with it over the holidays. [04:25] vanhoof: And overnighting it from a retailer to you, and then from you to me, would make it a fair chunk more expensive than the sticker price. :P [04:26] Sort of defeats the purpose of buying cheap hardware. [04:26] infinity: yeah but then you owe me archive work ;) [04:26] win/win [04:26] lulz [04:26] Oh, if you want to send me one for free, I'm okay with owing people favours... [04:26] looool [04:27] It's not like I haven't been working the last 5 days, despite being on "holidays". [04:27] Grr. [04:27] yeah seriously [04:27] May as well work on something I enjoy, instead of emergency SRUs for insane insanity. [04:37] Installing COM24 ? [04:37] COM26? [04:38] COM32? D: [04:38] * SailorMoon panics [04:39] USB serial on Windows gets curious numbering. [04:40] FSVO "curious" that amounts to "completely nonsensical". [04:40] lol === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun [04:41] This nightly/daily is booting different =o [04:41] Is using Gnome/unity really a good idea on a device like the Nexus 7? [04:42] It's more a proof of concept at this point than a finished product. [04:42] And a good baseline for people to go hunting memory/power/etc issues. [04:43] So you dont think we'll be using Gnome later on? :3 [04:44] So I got my file system loaded up with the installer scripts [04:44] It is getting kernel panic referencing various libnih .so files it is missing [04:44] but I am making progress [04:51] SailorMoon: I can't say (because I honestly don't know -- ignorance is bliss) what direction the mobile/slate efforts will go in, but any work put into gnome/compiz/unity certainly won't be wasted effort. [04:51] SailorMoon: Even if it doesn't end up being used for slates, I won't mind my laptop drawing 20% less power. :P [04:57] We need a Dock for this :3 [04:58] Turn it into a netbook lolz [04:58] I need a way to both charge and have an external HDD, and I'll be happy. [04:58] a dock with its own Power cable [04:58] make it! [05:00] The build im using doesnt allow for input, not from on screen keys or from usb keyboard. [05:00] really weird. [05:19] So - I've got my file system booted up on the 7 - but the touch screen is non-functional. Any idea what ubuntu package contains the drivers so I can rebuild them? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Jef91 is now known as Jef91|Away === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [08:00] good morning === yofel_ is now known as yofel === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun === gatox is now known as gatox_brb === doko_ is now known as doko === gatox_brb is now known as gatox === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === Jef91|Away is now known as Jef91 === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun [13:44] Anyone know which ubuntu package contains the touch screen drivers for th eneus 7? [13:47] Jef91: something-evdev [13:47] if you mean the X.Org driver [13:47] X on my custom image starts fine and at the right resolution [13:48] but the sccreen doesn't react to touch input [13:57] hrm - I already have xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed kulve === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === k1l_ is now known as k1l === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [15:15] hrm, updated EV dev drivers got my touchscreen working. Just need to figure out why the touch points are being mirrored. Calibration issue odds are. [15:32] sfeole: I want to say thanks for the help yesterday - I was able to get my own image going based on the 12.10 images [15:32] Anyone with 3g nexus7 here? Could you please run "blkid" and tell me what does it says? [16:09] Jef91: [16:09] Jef91: hey! Great!, I see you had a lengthy convo last night. Glad everyone could help you [16:10] mhmm - once I get the touch screen configurations right - I'll have some e17 goodness for the nexus7 to share [17:10] a gentle reminder that the Call For Participation for the Embedded Linux Conference deadline for submissions is Jan 4th! get your presenation proposals submitted soon! http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp === Jef91 is now known as Jef91|Away === Jef91|Away is now known as JEf91 === JEf91 is now known as Jef91 [20:59] Anyone know of a tool/configuration file for the evdev xorg driver [21:39] janimo, ogra_: hey, just trying lxc again on my nexus7, looks like the kernel is missing the bridge modules === chihchun is now known as zz_chihchun