[01:02] <phillw> hi xnox
[01:03] <xnox> phillw: hello.
[01:05] <phillw> xnox: is there a set of instructions so that I could pull in the proposed fix for suggested at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/+bug/1086974/comments/2
[01:05] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1086974 in libguestfs (Ubuntu Quantal) "libguestfs: error: cannot find any suitable libguestfs supermin" [High,Confirmed]
[01:07] <xnox> phillw: well, I've tried to do it & it turns out that picking that change is non-trivial: because both ubuntu UDD imports are out of date & debian vcs history is out of date.
[01:07] <xnox> otherwise it would have been a one line $ bzr merge -rX..Y lp:ubuntu/libgestfs into the quantal branch =/
[01:08]  * xnox has filed bugs in ubuntu UDD & debian upstream about missing revision histories.
[01:09] <xnox> phillw: sorry for the delay. I will manually reconstruct changes from debdiffs and upload something.
[01:09] <phillw> xnox: hmm okies... as there is a larger (more critical) problem, I'm really at a loss here. bug 1088692 I haven't asked ikonia if he's had chance to follow up on it.
[01:09] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1088692 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen corrupt when installing 13.04 using KVM" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1088692
[01:09] <xnox> but it's 1AM now here and I am falling asleep.....
[01:10] <phillw> xnox: you share the same time as me :) I was just checking mails before heading for bed :) Have a good sleep :)
[01:11] <xnox> phillw: well. that one is a duplicate. currently we have two types of screen corruptions one affected desktop background only & another affecting any video.
[01:11] <xnox> and your screenshot shows a mixture of the two =/
[01:12] <xnox> phillw: i'll escalate it.
[01:12] <xnox> tomorrow =)
[01:12] <xnox> good night!
[01:13] <phillw> balloons: FYI ^^
[01:17] <balloons> got it
[01:20] <phillw> balloons: good :)  as Jackson asked a little while back, is there any further work to do on http://pad.ubuntu.com/communitywebsite-contribute-quality before it can become a draft wiki page so we can begin the process of splitting it into its areas?
[01:27] <balloons> phillw, should be ready to go at this point
[01:27] <balloons> the further work is to update the page we linked to of common questions
[01:28] <balloons> I need to ping everyone about the ide
[01:29] <phillw> do you want me to transfer it to WIP wiki page, so people can work on the grammar / tidy up?
[01:32] <phillw> For the FAQ, we can set up one as best as we know, but that area will be better populated from the feedback we get on the classroom sessions :)
[01:33] <balloons> it's the tutorial page
[01:33] <balloons> it's linked from there
[01:34] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Tutorials
[01:34] <balloons> you can see the basic idea
[01:34] <balloons> i've got to run atm, but feel free to leave thoughts and I'll ping back tomorrow
[01:35] <phillw> I'm going to try have an early night tonite. I'll be about from about 15:00 UTC 19th Dec (Christmas shopping to do).
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[07:35] <pitti> Good morning
[07:41] <jibel> Good morning pitti
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[08:25] <Noskcaj> evening guys
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[09:13] <suga> I want to get the knowledge on QA automation approach which handles on Ubuntu12.04
[09:14] <suga> Appreciate if anybody respond about this.
[09:17] <suga> appreciate if you give some explanation about is there any automation tool handled for QA part on Ubuntu12.04
[09:43] <xnox> suga: I cannot understand your question. Have you google for project called "jenkins" ?
[09:52] <suga> Atually I want to know the QA automation approach handled on Ubuntu12.04 release
[09:53] <suga> For example; LDTP framework is used by ubuntu11.04 QA team.. Like that, what is the QA automation approach on Ubuntu12.04
[09:55] <xnox> we use jenkins, auto-pkg-tests, UTAH, xpressor, auto-pilot.
[09:55] <xnox> see: http://qa.ubuntu.com/automation/
[09:56] <xnox> but we should update that page as we no longer use mago: but instead auto-pilot & https://launchpad.net/xpresser
[09:56] <xnox> jibel: ^^^^
[09:59] <jibel> xnox, right, I don't have privileges to edit this page though :)
[09:59] <jibel> gema, do you? ^
[10:00] <gema> jibel: not last time I tried, but I filed a ticket, it may be fixed now
[10:00]  * gema trying
[10:01] <gema> jibel: I seem to be able to, I am not sure how to change it though
[10:01] <gema> suga: can you explain to me all you find confusing about the page?
[10:02] <gema> jibel: or shall I just remove the mago part?
[10:02] <gema> jibel: at least until we get to it
[10:05] <xnox> gema: please remove the mago bit, and someone should write a paragraph about xpresser.
[10:06] <gema> xnox: I am on the writing something about xpresser bit
[10:08] <gema> I do not have permission to preview drafts
[10:08] <gema> I wonder if it'll allow me to write x)
[10:08] <gema> xnox: feedback please, before I leave typos on the page: http://qa.ubuntu.com/automation/
[10:09] <xnox> gema: looks good.
[10:09] <xnox> suga: see updated http://qa.ubuntu.com/automation/
[10:14] <gema> xnox: I even added the way to contribute testing to utah x)
[10:16] <gema> suga: thanks for pointing us out that there was old information there
[10:17] <gema> pointing out to us, even
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[12:18] <xnox> pitti: jibel: gema: me & jodh tried to reproduce the usec assertition failure as seen in jenkins, but locally. We didn't managed to (even with using auto-package-test branch/scripts)
[12:19] <xnox> is there a chance to get ssh into the --login kvm instance of that failure?
[12:21] <xnox> syslog / dmesg from the failure whould be nice as well.
[14:22] <pitti> xnox: yes, I'm sure that we can arrange something
[14:23] <xnox> pitti: cool. i think jibel promised to setup stuff for me in a private message ;-)
[14:23] <pitti> xnox: might it be related that you and I usually try on a raring host, but the VMs in the DC run on a precise host kernel? or kvm itself being older there?
[14:24] <jibel> xnox, yeah I promised, and will do ... soonish
[14:24] <pitti> jibel: if you are busy, I can take this
[14:25] <pitti> I was thinking on logging into the temporary VM and setting up an ssh tunnel to some place xnox can reach
[14:26] <xnox> pitti: me can reach qalab vpn...
[14:28] <pitti> xnox: ah, good, that'll make it simple
[14:34] <pitti> jibel: I'm on it
[14:38] <pitti> jibel: ok, xnox has something to play with :)
[14:39] <jibel> pitti, ahah, many thanks!
[14:40] <jibel> xnox, you owe pitti a green dot ;)
[14:40] <pitti> oui, j'aime le vert!
[14:41] <pitti> la rouge est très mauvaise
[14:43] <pitti> xnox: upstart fails locally for me as well, but much later (in user_sessions, there is stderr output "No LSB modules are available.")
[14:44] <xnox> pitti: that is known. And by the way "No LSB modules are available" is printer, because of a hook call if any tests failed.
[14:44] <xnox> pitti: on a passing user_sessions there is no stderr.
[14:44] <pitti> ah, ok
[14:44] <xnox> but that is also fixed in trunk =)
[14:45] <xnox> (just to please adt ;-) )
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[15:17] <xnox> pitti: i think qa lab machines are simply too damn fast
[15:17] <pitti> haha
[15:17] <pitti> xnox: yeah, they have umpteen cores and GB of RAM and
[15:18] <pitti> s/and$//
[15:18] <pitti> "a supercomputer is a machine which can perform an endless loop in just two seconds"
[15:19] <xnox> pitti: so the machine has nanosecond resolution, yet utmp records only store microsecond resolution and hence upstart test-suite fails -> expecting a different time between two writes, while it can actually be within same microsecond.
[15:19]  * xnox rolls eyes
[15:22] <roadmr> but let's do this, ask her to do the change in salesforce (she'll do it in 2 minutes, I will take all morning figuring salesforce out)
[15:23] <roadmr> then, if c3 doesn't change, I can frob the database easily (takes 2 minutes)
[15:23] <roadmr> total time = 4 minutes
[15:23] <roadmr> hahaha
[15:38] <xnox> roadmr: wrong channel?
[15:38] <roadmr> xnox: sorry :/
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[17:10] <zyga> roadmr: heh
[19:35] <Noskcaj> can someone contact the testdrive devs and get netboot added to it somehow, or autoconfig for ppc. both would help hugely
[19:40] <phillw> bug 1084729
[19:40] <ubot5> bug 1084729 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "manual partitioning fails to create a partition table" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084729
[19:44] <phillw> bug 1087823, bug 1085173
[19:44] <ubot5> bug 1087823 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "in the manual partitioning page the "new partition table" gets more buttons every time you click it" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087823
[19:44] <ubot5> bug 1085173 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "partitioning window opens on the top left corner of the screen and cannot be moved away" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085173
[19:44] <Noskcaj> can someone confirm bug 1087848, vbox is need i believe
[19:44] <ubot5> bug 1087848 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "no login background lubuntu daily 13.04 amd64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087848
[19:45] <phillw> Noskcaj: I have vbox on my local machine, is only vbox that it is seen on?
[19:46] <Noskcaj> phillw, that i have seen it on, i haven't check for it for about a week however
[19:48] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'm zsyncing up the lubuntu amd13.04 daily. I'll check it on KVM and VBox a bit later (My fave T.V. programme is about to start :) )
[19:49] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks. and what show would that be?
[19:50] <phillw> Stargate SG1 :)
[19:50] <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, never seen it. i will be online all of today as school finished for the year yesterday
[19:51] <phillw> okay. I'll be back in ~ 1hour 15 mins.
[19:52] <phillw> I'll have a play with manual partitioning of lubuntu 13.04 and check if the display is there.
[19:53] <phillw> for netboots, that would have to be done on my dedi server owing to the amount of data needed to download.
[19:57] <Noskcaj> phillw, understandable. netboot in general is broken. turns out i won't be online all day, i have to babysit my 3 year old brother
[19:58] <phillw> he he... just when you thought you had a free day :)
[19:59] <Noskcaj> :(
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