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storrgie_I've got two ubuntu servers talking via cifs but i'm having an issue where some services that I have running are not having the right permissions when trying to write back to the cifs share00:36
escottstorrgie_, CIFS is not a POSIX filesystem00:37
escottstorrgie_, you should be using NFS00:37
storrgie_escott, you're right... is there a way to force permissions to work over samba though? probably in version 400:38
storrgie_escott, I am not running kerberos... is nfs just plain scary to run if you dont have an auth service?00:38
escottstorrgie_, maybe http://www.samba.org/samba/CIFS_POSIX_extensions.html00:39
storrgie_escott, If you're good with networking you might be able to help me. the systems I'm talking about are actually a host and VM00:39
storrgie_so maybe i can define a virtual interface for them to talk through that will be protected00:39
escottstorrgie_, install the guest additions00:39
storrgie_im using kvm00:39
escottstorrgie_, http://dustymabe.com/2012/09/11/share-a-folder-between-kvm-host-and-guest/00:40
sarnoldescott: wow. I had no idea such a thing was doable. neat. thanks. :)00:42
storrgie_yeah its the 9p thing00:42
storrgie_im scared to do that00:42
storrgie_but i probably should be doing it00:42
storrgie_im struggling because i want to use CIFS though00:42
storrgie_so i only have one service to share info with00:42
escottstorrgie_, i would certainly NOT do this with CIFS00:42
escottstorrgie_, NFS or plan9 seem to be the better options for kvm. kinda sad they dont have a direct paravirt setup00:43
storrgie_escott, I'm not sure how to lock down NFS though00:43
escottstorrgie_, lock down meaning?00:44
sarnoldstorrgie_: you could have your /etc/exports file restrict the export to only the one guest IP..00:45
storrgie_with nfs dont you just say any ip can come in00:45
storrgie_well any one00:45
storrgie_so here is the setup00:45
storrgie_its a KVM host that im trying to get to00:45
storrgie_could I just define a bridge interface and add that to my VMs to use00:45
storrgie_so its a private network between them00:45
sarnoldyes00:46
sarnoldthough if you want your vms to talk to each other, you'll probably have some more work to do :)00:46
storrgie_they already have one bridge interface to get to the network00:46
storrgie_sarnold, do you know the convention for doing this though00:46
storrgie_my first bridge is tied to a physical interface00:46
storrgie_this bridge would be virtual00:47
sarnoldstorrgie_: sadly, no; I just know enough to know it's possible to create a new bridge between the host and one specific guest that the other guests can't get to00:48
sarnoldstorrgie_: I _think_ the virsh net-* family of functions is the starting point..00:49
storrgie_nah i dont want to use virsh00:49
storrgie_I wnt to define a bridge in interfaces00:49
sarnoldstorrgie_: ah, not using libvirt for the kvms then, okay... brctl is probably the place to start :)00:51
storrgie_yeah, im looking at virsh though also00:52
storrgie_hrmm00:52
storrgie_sarnold, do you know much about creating bridges?00:55
storrgie_I would like to define it in a file00:55
storrgie_rather than run brctl00:55
storrgie_there is a page here that describes that I want... I think http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking00:55
storrgie_I just dont know how to convert that to an addition to my /etc/networking/interfaces file00:56
sarnoldstorrgie_: sadly, no, this is one of my weakest areas.00:56
storrgie_pewp00:58
storrgie_well here ill post once more and see if anyone bites:00:58
storrgie_I'm trying to define a private bridge for my KVM vms to talk to my host. I want to define it in my /etc/networking/interfaces file. I found this document here: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking that I think talks about what I want to do but I don't understand the brctl commands enough to decompose those into additions to my /etc/networking/interfaces config file00:58
AmacidiaHi everyone01:56
AmacidiaHow would one go about routing bittorent traffic through an openvpn connection but keep http, dns ect through my isps connection?01:57
AmacidiaWould this be done by changing some routing on my ubuntu server?01:58
escottAmacidia, routing is at the ip level, you want a port specific rule. you could do that with iptables02:03
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sw0rdfishhi04:53
makysdjholas04:56
chovynzanyone know how to activate the UI on mediatomb using a headless ubuntu server?05:25
chovynzI'm having trouble finding appropriate documentation05:25
chovynzim logging into the server via ssh05:26
pleia2chovynz: isn't it just a web interface?05:27
pleia2runs on port 49152 by default05:27
chovynzI guess. this is the web message i get "MediaTomb UI is disabled. Check your configuration." , I guess my question is more to do with mediatomb than US, but05:28
chovynzmost of the documentation i can find on mediatomb talks about doing things via ui05:29
pleia2chovynz: probably need to edit your /etc/mediatomb/config.xml05:29
pleia2    <ui enabled="yes" show-tooltips="yes">05:29
pleia2^^ mine has that05:29
uvirtbotpleia2: Error: "^" is not a valid command.05:29
chovynzoh ok. thanks05:30
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pleia2sure, it's not the easiest thing to configure (particularly when it comes to codecs and things) but there are a lot of example config.xml files out there to get tips from05:31
chovynz*cough*ex-windows-user-here-who-still-hasn't-got-it-completly-out-of-his-system-of-getting-things-done-for-him*cough*05:33
pleia2:)05:33
chovynzthanks pleia2, i didn't think of that05:33
pleia2sure, good luck05:33
chovynzuh, another silly question... could the reason the ui is disabled, is that i haven't yet hooked it up to a database?05:34
pleia2could be05:34
pleia2it's been a long time since I configured mine, I don't really remember the steps involved05:35
chovynzahaha.. me too05:35
pleia2I'm using sqlite though05:35
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1091523 in qemu-kvm (main) "Testing Raring in KVM displays visual artifacts (affects installer world map, login screen, wallpaper)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109152305:51
Deep6guys is there anyway to call vmbuilder and output the results onto an nfs share?06:19
Deep6i've done -d and it never seems to complete..06:19
Deep6(yes I have r/w)06:19
Deep6wow not everyone at once...06:59
sw0rdfishcan i set 2 listening ports for sshd?07:15
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hath001Hi , Apache in my server doesn't load index.php automatically ! I tried DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm  but that was helpless07:34
hath001can u help me please ?07:35
mvpdo you have php installed07:35
hath001yes , it is work when i write index.php07:35
hath001ex : www.ex.com dosen't work but www.ex.com/index.php it fine07:36
mvpperhaps you can't override DirectoryIndex with a local .htaccess07:39
hath001i tried to do that in httpd.conf AND sites-available/default07:40
SyriaI want from my server to execute a command on it's start, Could you please let me how to this?07:44
Syria*let me know07:45
hath001Syria http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-how-to-run-a-command-when-boots-up.html07:49
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Syriahath001:  Thank you I will read it.07:51
Syriahath001:  The script  name.sh should contain the commands I want them to be executed at the startup only?07:55
Syriahath001:  Sorry I see it now.07:56
oracle_I have a server that I also want to use as a desktop sometimes, but I don't want _everything_ that comes with ubuntu-desktop meta package.  Is there a way of installing ubuntu-desktop where you can pick and choose the components?08:20
TheLordOfTimeoracle_, pick and choose the individual packages you want to install?  if you install the metapackage it'll install everything, if you hand-pick what you want from the list of what the metapackage installs, you'll get the customized list of stuff.08:27
TheLordOfTimei don't remember how extensive the list of stuff is though08:28
oracle_Are some packages reverse-dependant on ubuntu-desktop?  So that even if I install OOo separately, it will drag in ubuntu-desktop as a dependency?08:30
oracle_sorry, OOo is now LibreOffice i suppose.08:30
Davieyjamespage: tracking https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg19520.html ?08:42
Davieymornin' btw08:42
feisarmorning chaps, any recommendations for the best way to set a 'one time reboot' for a server. E.g. Security updates applied automatically, system needs a reboot and I want to set it to happen 00:00 tonight?08:44
balboahfeisar: the shutdown command can take a timestamp for when to do it08:49
feisarbalboah: ah, that sounds good, I could write a little script that asked for the time and then issued the command08:52
balboahfeisar: sure. You can also use the "at" program do run a certain script one time at a certain time08:53
feisarwould I have to issue the command from a Screen session (or similar) or would the command still execute if I closed the terminal?08:53
balboahit will be scheduled and executed even if you close your terminal08:53
jamespageDaviey, morning08:55
jamespageI had seen that yes08:55
jamespagenothing new tho08:55
jamespagewe are using most of that stuff08:55
feisarbalboah: thanks : )08:57
jamespageDaviey, did you do the NEW ack's for the latest ceph packages in raring?08:58
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Davieyjamespage: no, when i signed off they were not al built09:08
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Davieyjamespage: but it is done now09:08
Davieyjamespage: and it's now in the release pocket09:09
jamespageDaviey, it is - but a few bits and pieces have crept into main09:09
jamespageI'd like them pushed back to universe09:09
Davieyjamespage: hmm, it's not showing as a candidate for demotion.09:10
Davieyhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt09:10
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jamespageDaviey, I don't think it will09:15
jamespageDaviey: ceph-fuse, libcephfs-jni and libcephfs-jni-dbg should be pushed to universe09:16
Davieyjamespage: then something is keeping it in main :)09:16
Davieyhmm09:17
jamespageDaviey, I don't think so - nothing rdepends on ceph-fuse or libcephfs-jni09:18
Davieyhmm09:22
Davieyjamespage: You indeed seem to be correct, as usual.09:25
Davieyjamespage: lets see if anything demands it back, http://pb.daviey.com/iMRD/09:26
jamespageDaviey, ceph-fuse also has a -dbg - that will demand it back09:27
chmac`less *.log` then :n and :p to move back and forth through the files. Can I improve that down to a single keystroke for next / previous file?09:29
chmacWith more maybe? Or some other tool?09:29
chmacI guess I could use vim and map a keystroke to next/prev file, but I'm looking for something that'll work out of the box, on almost any platform... :-)09:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #1091577 in samba (main) "unable to ping hosts by windows hostname" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109157709:30
Davieyjamespage: done09:31
jamespageDaviey, muchly09:32
jamespageta09:32
jamespagesorry - that came out in the wrong order09:32
Davieyjamespage: problem no ;)09:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #1025244 in qemu-kvm "qcow2 image increasing disk size above the virtual limit" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102524410:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #1091602 in bind9 "Please add resolvconf hook script to generate dynamic forwarders list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109160210:28
uvirtbotNew bug: #1091624 in net-snmp (main) "package snmpd 5.4.3~dfsg-2.5ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109162411:45
koolhead17zul: around13:09
yolandahaving this problem running ceilometer on devstack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447493/13:14
yolandaany idea?13:14
samba35i am trying to configure iscsi server on ubuntu as a target (as a server )(please correct me if i am wrong )with esxi server13:34
RoyKsamba35: should work13:38
samba35but when i run tgt-admin -s it print noting13:39
samba35do you have any idea what configration changes i have to make13:39
RoyKto be honest, I've never setup iscsi target on linux - I have this test box, though - lemme see :)13:39
samba35ok13:40
samba35no problem ,but please correct me13:40
RoyKwell, tgt-admin -s should show what's setup13:41
samba35initiator  is know as a client and target is know as a server right13:42
RoyKyes13:42
samba35thanks13:42
samba35is there any gui for iscsi i ubunut ?13:43
RoyKprobably not13:44
samba35ok13:44
RoyKare you following a howto? this one looks decent http://askubuntu.com/questions/63621/iscsi-trgt-missing-because-cant-build-kernel-module13:45
samba35now i will13:46
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rcaskeyhey all, my /boot filled up and i've got 800 megs free and am getting dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic_3.2.0-35.55_amd64.deb (--unpack):14:56
rcaskey unable to create `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic/include/config/acpi/cmpc.h.dpkg-new' (while processing `./usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic/include/config/acpi/cmpc.h'): No space left on device any ideas?14:56
rcaskeyi used dpkg to purge some stuff and now boot is at 50% and / shows its 80% with 800 megs free and it is still getting that no space left on device error14:56
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rcaskeyand i created a 100 meg file there just fine with dd15:03
Cookiemonster_hi there somebody here experienced with webmin?15:07
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samba35when i try to add service   "chkconfig anyservice on" i am getting   /sbin/insserv: No such file or directory15:29
jpdssamba35: chkconfig isn't used on Ubuntu.15:30
RoyK!webmin15:30
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.15:30
samba35then how do i start service at startup15:30
jpdssamba35: Which service?15:31
RoyKsamba35: it's usually started by upstart on startup if it's installed. which service is this?15:31
samba35say vsftpd tgt or any15:31
RoyKsamba35: well, not 'any' :)15:31
samba35when i run chkconfig --list it show services15:32
RoyKsamba35: don't use chkconfig15:32
jpdssamba35: Ubuntu uses upstart/init.d.15:32
RoyKto start tgt, run 'start tgt'15:32
RoyKtgt is in upstart15:32
samba35ok15:32
RoyKso is vsftpd15:32
samba35ok15:33
samba35thanks15:33
RoyKdid you manage to make tgt work?15:33
samba35no15:33
* RoyK has been out for a while15:33
RoyKwill try15:33
samba35ok15:33
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RoyKsamba35: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-setup-linux-iscsi-target-sanwith-tgt.html15:35
RoyKsamba35: the other I posted was for another iscsi target implementation - an older one I think15:36
* RoyK didn't know there were two15:36
samba35ok let me try15:36
samba35thanks15:36
samba35i think i fail to understand "iqn"15:45
RoyKthat's just the iscsi initiator name prefix15:46
RoyKiSCSI Qualified Name15:46
samba35but how to use full name15:48
samba35do i have to use host or domain ?15:48
RoyKit's usually something like this iqn.1993-08.org.debian:01:a44148977e36 - meaning iqn.YYYY-MM.tld.domain:something15:49
RoyKit should be autogenerated when you install open-iscsi15:49
samba35how do i generate it ?15:50
RoyKapt-get install open-iscsi open-iscsi-utils15:50
RoyKthat's for the initiator, though15:50
RoyKno need for an initiator name on the target side15:50
samba35ok15:50
RoyKwhat OS does the initiator run?15:51
RoyKor 'on what what OS does the initiator run?'15:51
* RoyK just created a 200GB iscsi volume and attached to it from localhost :)15:52
samba35i am trying windows xp and vmware esxi15:52
RoyKok, both should work15:52
samba35i have to use server iqn at client  ?15:52
RoyKeach client has its own iqn15:53
RoyKon the server, you can authorize a given iqn for a given target, you can authorize an ip address, or setup authentication15:53
RoyKs/server/target/15:53
samba35confued :)15:53
RoyKwell, it'll sink in :)15:53
RoyKtook me some time to get used to how iscsi works15:54
RoyKthat is15:54
RoyKall targets have an iqn, all clients have one as well15:54
RoyKs/clients/initiators15:54
RoyKthat is, all endpoints in an iscsi setup, has an iqn15:55
samba35RoyK, do you use vmware esxi15:55
RoyKat work, yes, on iscsi15:55
RoyKI guess it should autogenerate its iqn as well15:55
RoyKfor testing, just allow all clients: tgtadm --lld iscsi --op bind --mode target --tid 1 -I ALL15:55
samba35esxi has a target or client ? for version of esxi15:55
smoserutlemming, thought i'd point you to 'mount-callback-umount', which mounts a disk or partition image in anything qemu-nbd supports and hten calls a command and unmounts.15:55
smoserits at https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/+junk/backdoor-image15:55
smoseri'm using it for things like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447788/15:56
RoyKesxi has an initiator (that is, the client). esxi shouldn't need a target (since it doesn't serve storage)15:56
smoserwhich mounts an image, installs a package or 2 and then publishes it.15:56
smoserunfortunately, grub and kernel cause issues with a simple 'mount-callback-umount chroot MOUNTPOINT sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"'15:57
samba35ok15:57
RoyKa 'target' is a 'server' meaning it serves storage, an 'initiator' is the one using the storage. this is the same as the old SCSI controller is a 'target' where the OS (or drivers) are 'initiators'15:59
samba35ok16:01
samba35i am trying ubuntu as a target to esxi16:01
RoyKif you want to do some testing first, apt-get install open-iscsi open-iscsi-utils and use that to check if you can see the target16:02
samba35yes i have installed this packages16:03
samba35need to fix iqn16:03
RoyKsuch as http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447815/16:03
RoyKsamba35: what does /etc/iscsi/initiatorname.iscsi say?16:04
samba35InitiatorName=iqn.1993-08.org.debian:01:51e9ab41fb7e16:05
RoyKlooks like a valid IQN to me16:05
samba35what is my iqn then16:06
RoyKthat's the initiator name16:07
RoyKthe targets will have an iqn each16:07
samba35ok16:07
RoyKas in my example above16:08
RoyKmy iscsi test target is named iqn.2012-12.net.karlsbakk:iscsitest16:08
samba35send pm16:08
RoyKpm answered16:08
samba35thanks16:09
samba35did you genrate this iqn ?16:09
RoyKbasically, use tgt to setup a target, that is, with a number and name, after that, assign a partition or lvm logical volume, any device or file, really, to that target, and set ACLs on that16:10
samba35this is in your /etc/iscsi/initinatoname.iscsi ?16:10
RoyKthat iqn was generated in my head, "iqn.YYYY-MM.net.karlsbakk:targetname16:10
RoyKno, the initiator and target are different endpoints and must therefore have different iqns. I use the one (like yours) autogenerated16:11
samba35how do i detect my iqn for target16:11
RoyKhave you connected with iscsiadm -m discovery -t st -p localhost ?16:12
samba35no16:13
RoyKfirst, you need to do discovery16:13
RoyKthen you can login to a target16:13
samba35ok16:14
RoyKso, pastebin tgt-admin -s first16:14
samba35its blank16:14
RoyKthen you need to setup a target16:14
RoyKas described on http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-setup-linux-iscsi-target-sanwith-tgt.html16:14
RoyKplease read that through first16:14
samba35ok16:14
smoserutlemming, uploading new ec2-api-tools to raring16:31
RoyKsamba35: any more luck?16:33
samba35moveing forward slowly16:33
samba35the proble is my ubuntu is on vmware and behind a firewall16:34
samba35they both are on vm and 4 gb ram and 3 guest16:34
utlemmingsmoser: ack. I wonder if caribou wants to drive SRU's for that :)16:34
smoserits not worth sru imo.16:35
RoyKsamba35: erm - you're using a VM to serve storage to esxi?16:35
utlemmingsmoser: yeah, I know.... :( . But worth a PPA build16:35
smosersru's are a pain in the ass, and slittle things like this that are easily got from a ppa only slwo up the queue for important things.16:35
samba35for testing 200 mb only16:35
RoyKok16:35
RoyKshould work for testing, I guess...16:36
caribouutlemming: ???16:36
caribouutlemming: is that a xmas gift ? ;-)16:36
utlemmingcaribou: I'm a giving sort of guy :)16:37
caribouutlemming: I'd say let's wait until someone asks for it16:37
utlemmingcaribou: just giving you a hard time...you seem to do all the SRU's lately that I watch16:37
caribouwell, this is kind of my dayjob (at least the one I'm aiming for)16:38
caribouutlemming: got another one coming on lvm216:38
samba35do i need to worry about my nic whether it support iscsi or not ?16:41
samba35trying to add iscsi with esxi now there is no movement from esxi server is busy16:42
samba35(mouse busy sign )16:42
RoyKiscsi runs over tcp16:43
RoyKso any nic will do16:43
samba35ok16:43
smoserutlemming, just tested that snapshot copy works.16:44
smoserit returns immediately16:44
samba35is there any way to test from ubuntu16:44
smoserthen you have to wait until it gets completed before you can register.16:45
RoyKsamba35: for testing, that is - for a good setup with large amounts of storage, you'd want checksumming on the NIC16:45
RoyKsamba35: yes, see above - iscsiadm etc16:45
utlemmingsmoser: that's what I suspected....but this would substaintly cut down on the time to register16:45
smosermaybe.16:45
smoserprobably16:45
utlemmingsmoser: when the current fire ends, I'll dig into using migrate-image and migrate-snap16:45
smoserbut our wget and populate is pretty fast.16:46
utlemmingsmoser: I wonder about ap-southeast-{1,2} transit16:46
smoserutlemming, i'd suggest wrapping it in a "snapshot-and-register"16:46
smoserthat does what we actually *want*16:47
samba35ok16:47
smoserwhich can then be replaced with their "Amazon Machine Image (AMI) Copy" that they've suggested is coming.16:47
smoserutlemming, also, if you wrap it, make it correctly copy description (by default).16:50
smoseras they do not do that right now16:50
RoyKsamba35: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447945/16:53
RoyKsamba35: I first created a 200GB lv, named /dev/raid/iscsitest16:54
patdk-wkvmware normally even performs better using software iscsi vs using an iscsi nic16:54
patdk-wkreasons being, you can't loadbalance iscsi over multible hardware iscsi nics16:55
RoyKvmware's multipath implementation is rather good after what I hear16:55
patdk-wkit just got a huge tuneup in 5.1 :)16:55
RoyKwe're updating all hosts to 5.1 these days16:55
RoyKlarger clusters16:56
patdk-wkI've just finished basically16:56
RoyKand virtual datacenter one day, I guess16:56
RoyKpatdk-wk: have you looked at the virtual datacenter stuff in vmware?16:59
* RoyK is obviously aware of this being rather [offtopic]16:59
adam_gjamespage: hey james, how would a merge like this work, if its just a bare packaging branch being merge into the ubuntu branchd /w no upstream source included and no remote tarball for the version17:05
adam_ghttps://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/nova/precise-essex-proposed/+merge/14022517:05
jamespageadam_g, badly infortunately17:05
RoyKsamba35: did you take a look at that post?17:06
jamespageadam_g, I worked with yolanda on getting that working better earlier today17:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #1091763 in lxc (universe) "lxc-start-ephemeral freezes (dup-of: 1021471)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109176317:06
RoyKit'd be rather nice if someone came up with a vCenter like interface to KVM...17:06
jamespageadam_g: she raised new MP's based on the distro branches by importing the source packages17:06
adam_gjamespage: ohh. what did you come up with? i've been manually generating tarballs17:06
jamespageadam_g, https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/+activereviews17:06
jamespageadam_g, well - its still manual to create the tarball; but by doing a 'bzr import-dsc' into a full packaging branch you end up with something that can be proposed for merge17:07
samba35server is busy still i think i have to reboot17:07
samba35sorry17:07
jamespageadam_g, and a sponsor can grab a test as it contains the orig.tar.gz17:07
samba35the reasom i am not rebooting is i am download ing  some stuff17:08
ikoniaRoyK: there is the libvirt gui being ported to a win32 frontend and someone is trying to port it to ipad at the moment17:08
ikoniaRoyK: it's not a bad starting place for a "v center style front end"17:09
adam_gjamespage: i see17:09
RoyKikonia: it'd be nice if virt-manager was a bit better - but then - I'm not a coder, so please don't blame me ;)17:12
ikoniaRoyK: I like it, it's a great starting place17:13
ikoniaif it gets ported better to windows and tools such as ios/android it will have a sound place to expand17:14
jamespageadam_g, reviewing swift_redux branches now17:14
RoyKikonia: I use it regularly myself - no problem - it's just that once I started working with vmware, I god a bit surprised how much better it was17:14
adam_gjamespage: cool.17:14
ikoniaRoyK: yeah, the vmware tools are a big step up, but then, so is the development budget / time etc17:15
RoyKikonia: I'm aware of that ;)17:15
ikoniafor small busines or even certain enterprise application it ticks the boxes just fine17:16
ikoniaRoyK: Redhat's virtualization platform has really expended on it too17:16
RoyKthese edu licenses we get cost about $2k per node - no idea how much that costs for non-edu organizations17:16
ikoniaso if RedHat feed their updates in to, so other distros such as ubuntu can benifit that would make a big jmp17:16
ikoniaRoyK: 5K-ish17:16
RoyK*if* redhat chooses to share that code17:16
ikonia(functionality/tin dependent)17:17
RoyK5k per node is rather a lot for a 10-node cluster17:17
ikoniaRoyK: sorry, that's not right, it's not per node in hte cluster17:17
ikoniait's per vcenter17:17
ikoniathe individual nodes are much less17:18
RoyKerm - that's just the admin tool17:18
ikonia(or whatver Vcenter is calling itself this week)17:18
RoyKor node17:18
RoyKI think it's still vcenter17:18
ikoniawht's the word for the "enterprise estate"17:18
ikoniait's not "estate"17:18
ikoniaI can't fire up the gui to look now17:18
ikonia"farm" but not "farm"17:18
RoyKfor 10 nodes, a single vcenter installation works well17:19
ikoniathat's not what I meant, I didn't actually mean the vcenter interface17:19
ikoniathe "estate" but I can't think of the word17:19
RoyKwhat interface is that? the gui?17:20
* RoyK is somewhat annoyed with Dell Equallogic storage17:20
ikoniayes, it's a gui, but it's basically you pay $X per "estate" for all the functionality like vmotion, etc, and then %Y per node in that estate17:21
ikoniabut "estate" isn't the word,17:21
RoyKbut what does it mean?17:22
ikoniait used to be the vcenter "suite"17:22
ikoniait's the funcionality that allows for vmotion migration, on the fly storage changes, etc17:23
ikoniathat's why I was refering to it as vcenter, I didn't mean the actual gui but the enterprrise tools it provided ontop of the virtualization17:23
ikoniait's basicaly bolt on enterprise functions to vsphere.17:23
ikoniabut I can't think of the word it's called17:23
RoyKsure, but how many of those would you need? with 10 nodes?17:23
ikonia117:24
ikoniayou buy one and then the individual nodes are licensed as vsphere/whatever nodes17:24
* RoyK flags #ubuntu-offtopic for vmware talk17:25
jamespageadam_g, OK - so how do I get the ring to rebalance and actually start ?17:32
adam_gjamespage: initially? you need a number of zones >= the number of minimum replicas configured (3 by default)17:35
adam_gjamespage: i can extend the README if its unclear17:35
jamespageadam_g, no - I'm being a bit dumb17:35
jamespagewho reads a README anyway17:36
jamespage:-)17:36
adam_gjamespage: in the case of 3 minimum replicas: if configured to do manual zone assignemnt, you'd need 3 swift-storage service units each configured as their own zone. with auto, you'd need 1 storage unit with 3 machine units17:36
jamespageadam_g, I have three but they are all in the same swift-storage service and I'm using manual17:36
adam_gjamespage: you have 3 what? 1 swift-storage service with 3 machine units?17:39
jamespageadam_g, yes17:39
adam_gin that case you only have 1 storage zone. you need to add two more swift-storage service units, configured as zone: 2 + zone: 317:39
adam_gjamespage: if you dont want to follow the charm.log, you can run 'swift-ring-builder /etc/swift/account.builder' to where nodes are being assigned17:42
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jamespageadam_g, OK - think I have it right now17:46
jamespageadam_g, the interfaces need better typing17:46
adam_gjamespage: yeah, i was gonna wait for a review to get feedback on that. i was trying to come up with better interfaces but was having a hard time. partly because i dont fully grok juju interfaces17:47
adam_gjamespage: i'd ideally like to have relations to storage nodes fire 'swift-proxy-relation-*' hooks and hooks to openstack services fire 'object-store-relation-*'.  in this case swift-proxy provides two things. i'm not certain how to do that without running into ambiguity.17:50
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jamespageadam_g, w00t! just uploaded an image to glance backed by swift!18:00
jamespageadam_g, the type is the important bit18:02
adam_gjamespage: neat. :) everything is handled by glance and services' existing keystone credentials so that nova-compute needs nothing special to fetch the image18:03
jamespageadam_g, yeah - don't quite have enough capacity to run compute as well :-)18:03
jamespagebut I've uploaded using glance and can see using nova18:03
jamespageadam_g, re the essex openstack sru updates18:05
jamespagethe branches all look good and I check the bugs have tasks raised etc....18:05
jamespagewhat does the process look like now? I held off uploading until I spoke with you18:05
adam_gjamespage: i try to track everything in a meta-bug like this bug #1085255. yolanda started one last week but it might the desc might need updating. then upload and hope they all get accepted into -proposed before 2014 :)18:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1085255 in cinder "Meta bug for tracking Openstack 2012.2.1 Stable Update" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108525518:08
jamespageyolanda, can you make sure the meta-bug is up-to-date and then I will upload18:08
SpamapSadam_g: since you have a provisional MRE, they should get accepted rather rapidly18:08
jamespageta18:08
adam_gSpamapS: 1 for 6 for the stuff i put in queue on 11/30. anything you can do to help? :)18:09
SpamapSadam_g: IIRC you were going to upload something new?18:10
adam_gjamespage: after its uploaded to precise-proposed, theres a jenkins deploy test that will install everything from $distro-proposed to do some final smoke testing, in the past i've added those test logs as verification to the metabug18:10
adam_gSpamapS: yeah, there was a nova security update sometime last week, i uploaded a new rebased nova18:10
SpamapSadam_g: ok, lets make sure that gets done first. I'll look at it tomorrow.18:11
adam_gSpamapS: its done. nova 2012.2.1+stable-20121212-a99a802e-0ubuntu1 is in queue, the previous rejected18:12
jamespageadam_g, proposed metadata.yaml for swift-storage - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448120/18:12
jamespageadam_g, and for swift-proxy - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448125/18:12
jamespageATM its possible to relate the glance charm directly to swift-storage which makes no sense18:13
jamespageby typing the interfaces 'swift' and 'swift-proxy' it makes it clear what can be plugged together18:13
adam_gjamespage: cool. let me give that a shot and update those branches.18:13
jamespageadam_g, you will need to update the glance charm to use swift-proxy typed interface as well18:13
adam_gk18:14
jamespageadam_g, in my proposed versions I also changed the name of the hook to swift-storage on both ends18:14
jamespageadam_g, if you want to give it another round of changes I'll pickup first thing tomorrow18:14
jamespageadam_g, but it generally worked well once I actually RTFM'ed18:14
jamespagelol18:14
jamespageadam_g, do you have a deployer configuration for this? might save me some time!18:15
adam_gjamespage: :) ill get the metadata updated today18:15
adam_gjamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448130/18:15
yolandajamespage, sorry, i was out for a bit18:17
yolandaare you there?18:17
yolandajamespage, adam_g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/108948818:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1089488 in nova "Meta bug for tracking Openstack Stable Updates" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:31
adam_gyolanda: cool! looks good18:32
yolandai removed glance18:32
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kantlivelonghey all.. im getting file to large from nfs19:57
kantlivelonghow can i fix this?19:58
sarnoldkantlivelong: what version of nfs? nfsv2 can only access 2 gigs, nfsv3, v4, can access signifncantly larger files: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/20:00
adam_gjamespage: updated interfaces/hook names for the swift-storage/swift-proxy/glance stuff. should be sane now.20:01
kantlivelongsarnold: im asuming v4. im on ubuntu 12.04 so i would imagine v2 wouldnt be used20:01
kantlivelongany easy way to tell?20:01
sarnoldkantlivelong: hrm, I no longer know that :(20:01
daniearjust installed fail2ban, could someone please try to ssh in to see if it works20:55
Jeeves_daniear: Sure, where20:55
smoserdaniear, ooh i want to try too!20:58
daniearim ircing from my ip21:12
daniear2221:12
daniearshould be 3 attempts21:12
RoyKdaniear: better use denyhosts - it's distributed21:20
RoyKdaniear: btw, seems to work ;)21:22
danieardistributed? what do u mean21:36
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storrgieI'm having permissions problems using nfs, I have a server that is running a daemon as www-data that is having troulbe writing to my nfs mount.23:50

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