[00:00] <ryanbarber> neckcon: huh, thats strange. have you tried a reboot
[00:00] <blami> usr13: gpt is different partitioning model, it supersedes dos partition table
[00:00] <escott> progre55, you might try upgrading mysql-client-core first
[00:01] <usr13> blami: Thank you.  I didn't know that.
[00:01] <escott> progre55, or removing mysql and reinstalling it
[00:01] <neckcon> yea, I got out of windows vista and booted to Ubuntu 12.10 and the same thing there again. There is no firefox and all the other stuff thats supposed to be in the side bar
[00:01] <neckcon> no sidebar at all
[00:01] <corehook> hi all
[00:01] <blami> usr13: if you have efi machine you definitely have your disk formatted using gpt so just shrinking one of the existing partitions and creating new one (fifth) should be enough to make space for ubuntu
[00:01] <progre55> escott: but now apt says I need to do "apt-get -f install" first, which keeps failing
[00:01] <corehook> after apt-get update & apt-get upgrade now i cant join into notebook
[00:01] <bjrohan> escott: so go into the Kubuntu install via LiveUSB then resize partitions in the installer?
[00:01] <corehook> i mean after enter password in login screen manager
[00:01] <corehook> what i must do ?
[00:02] <bjrohan> escott: Or to preserve Win8 install would it be better to resize in Win8?
[00:02] <escott> bjrohan, except for the having to disable secure boot, and the making sure your livecd is booting in efi mode not gpt (so it knows to install grub-efi) and that you can have 128 partitions... its just like the old install
[00:03] <usr13> escott: blami: I don't really understand why Win7 and Win8 uses 4 partitions.  (Only three show up in "My Computer" anyway. So what's the deal?)
[00:03] <corehook> after entering password ubuntu try to load gnome-session but drop me to login screen again
[00:03] <corehook> ubuntu 12.10
[00:03] <corehook> last updates
[00:04] <escott> usr13, at least one is a recovery partition and they dont want you messing with that
[00:04] <nono_> hi there o/
[00:04] <bjrohan> escott: It has been a while since I have done a dual boot, so help is greatly appreciated especially the whole efi bit
[00:04] <escott> bjrohan, i dont know what the 4th partition is for. do not modify the efi system partition. the others are windows specific
[00:04] <neckcon> Will ubuntu 12.10 install correctly on NTFS>
[00:05] <blackshirt> neckon, i think thats a worst thing ... Stupid
[00:05] <nono_> Someone can tell me how can i create my 8GB Swap partition on my 1000.2 GB HDD (it's on a ubuntu server without any gui), so, i use fdisk, but cfdisk do the same error "Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary"
[00:05] <usr13> escott: blami The one I just did had a small fat32 at the end.  It had only a few files, which I just dumped onto sda2 and deleted it.  But no, I didn't mess with the recovery partition.
[00:05] <neckcon>  Will ubuntu 12.10 install correctly on NTFS along side of vista?
[00:05] <escott> bjrohan, if you mount the ntfs partitions you might be able to get a sense of their purpose. one is windows proper. one is windows backup/recovery, my guess is the third ntfs is a windows data partition and is probably empty. if that is true you could remove that partition and replace it with ubuntu
[00:05] <bjrohan> escott: So for safety, go into Win8, resize the "C" drive to only 150GB or so leaving that much blank space then boot into live CD
[00:06] <usr13> nono_: Unless you already have free space, I do NOT recommend changing partition size of one that you have data on.
[00:06] <blackshirt> Neckon, install it in native linux filesystem, ntfs just for support ntfs partition
[00:06] <escott> usr13, "a small fat32 with only a few files" sounds suspiciously like an efi system partition which would make the system non-bootable in efi mode i removed
[00:06] <nono_> usr13 : it's a fresh new server on the rescue mode ;-)
[00:07] <nono_> I can play with my 2 HDD :)
[00:07] <Rollin> backup your data before editing partitions if you can. pays to be safe as possible.
[00:07] <escott> bjrohan, if you want to send the output of "sudo parted -l" i can tell you what not to touch (its the fat partition labeled EFI system)
[00:07] <escott> bjrohan, for the others they are something windows related... but i dont know exactly what without either mounting them or booting windows
[00:08] <usr13> nono_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/
[00:08] <nono_> usr13 any other help ?
[00:08] <nono_> i can't go to the internet with my rescue mode
[00:09] <usr13> escott: It boots fine, so...
[00:10] <neckcon> blackshirt, what do ya mean
[00:10] <bjrohan> escott: I took a picture of my screen for the win8 partitions in WIN8, how can I share it with you?
[00:10] <usr13> escott: What is efi?
[00:10] <blackshirt> neckcon, do you want install linux in ntfs partition ?
[00:11] <neckcon> blackshirt, I am wanting to install Ubuntu 12.10 along side of windows vista. WQhere I can boot to Ubuntu 12.10
[00:12] <dakotawulfy> is there any way to use the ubuntu alternative installer for  a different ubuntu  install
[00:12] <escott> usr13, then you aren't booting efi
[00:12] <escott> !paste | bjrohan
[00:12] <blackshirt> neckcon,exactly you can dual booting,even multiple booting,
[00:13] <diverdude> Is it possible to create a user with a homedirectory, and setup the user so that he cannot do anything at all outside $HOME ? Not even cd outside $HOME?
[00:13] <neckcon> blackshirt, yes I know but I am getting the ubunbtu desktop with no sidebar and nothing but the bar at the top of the screen
[00:14] <escott> diverdude, yes and no. its called a chroot. its very restrictive, hard to setup, hard to keep secure, and there are probably better ways with modern techniques
[00:14] <blackshirt> neckcon, but makes a room for your linux with native linux filesystem, ext4 for default,but you can choose the others that was greatly available ...
[00:15] <blackshirt> Neckcon, place linux in ntfs partition was not recommended ways for dedicated linux partition
[00:15] <escott> blackshirt, more than "not recommended" it is impossible (excepting tricks like wubi)
[00:15] <neckcon> blackshirt, I guess I do not know how to make a linux partition as your talking about
[00:15] <bjrohan> escott: Here is what I have for partitions. The main partition I can shrink to 150GB, leave the other 3 alone, and then install Ubunutu on the area left after the shrink
[00:16] <bjrohan> http://imagebin.org/239738
[00:18] <escott> bjrohan, don't know what the first 400MB partition is for, cannot advise either way what to do about it. do not touch the 260MB EFI system partition. feel free to shrink the 903GB NTFS partition (but do so from the livecd or boot windows recovery), cannot comment on the 27GB OEM partition
[00:18] <diverdude> escott, what better ways
[00:18] <daftykins> you need 4 for an EFI config on GPT
[00:18] <daftykins> if you tamper it breaks, afaik
[00:18] <blackshirt> escott, better with wubi if he want in ntfs :d
[00:19] <escott> bjrohan, if you had access to win8 install media you could perhaps remove the 27GB OEM partition and have the win8 install disks for your recovery
[00:19] <bjrohan> escott: My thoughts exactly. Would it be best to shrink the 903 inside Windows so it does it to it's liking, or better to do in from the Ubuntu live CD?
[00:19] <nuxusr> any news on an expected release date for ubuntu for android?
[00:19] <escott> diverdude, depends on what exactly you want to accomplish. who are you trying to isolate and for what purpose
[00:19] <bjrohan> escott: I have no WIN8 CD :-(
[00:19] <bjrohan> escott: i just bought the comp today, no CD provided, sucky deal
[00:19] <Rollin> what about using the gparted live cd/usb to partition ?
[00:19] <escott> bjrohan, the livecd can shrink NTFS partitions
[00:20] <usr13> bjrohan: escott I recommend using Parted Magic http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads  *pretty* *nice*
[00:20] <bjrohan> escott: Okaey dokey, will do
[00:20] <chovynz> What would be an easy way to access my ubuntu server? I'm having trouble connecting to it in an easy way. what can i set up / do so that not only me, but my kids can access the info on my server also? (ATM I connect using ftp-filezilla and ssh, but i want a web interface for my kids easy access)
[00:20] <diverdude> escott, a user which should not be able to browse around outside $HOME
[00:20] <bjrohan> escott: I turned off the secure boot in my BIOS, I should be good to to correct?
[00:20] <escott> diverdude, but why
[00:21] <diverdude> escott, because thats none of his business
[00:21] <escott> diverdude, what will this user be able to do outside of $HOME that you dont want him to do
[00:21] <escott> diverdude, its not his business to run programs in /usr/bin?
[00:21] <usr13> chovynz: samba?
[00:21] <usr13> chovynz: nfs?
[00:21] <diverdude> escott, look at various files, modify them etc
[00:21] <chovynz> usr13: ?
[00:22] <usr13> chovynz: What is it exactly that you want to do?
[00:22] <escott> diverdude, a user cannot execute a program that he cannot read or navigate to. so "not his business to be outside of $HOME" means that he cannot access the computer.
[00:22] <usr13> chovynz: (Was there a question in that post?)
[00:22] <escott> diverdude, so what exactly is it that you dont want this user doing?
[00:23] <escott> diverdude, and what do you want the user to do
[00:23] <diverdude> escott, copy his own file to and from the homedir
[00:23] <chovynz> usr13: I want to be able to access the server, and to click on a file and the correct application opens to play / view / read, via web so that my kids can do it too, (instead of my having to teach them ssh and ftp-filezilla
[00:23] <Rollin> if you need to hide private data, i suggest encryption instead of tying to confine other users
[00:23] <escott> diverdude, so this user is using the disk space and that is it
[00:23] <usr13> chovynz: nfs?
[00:23] <escott> diverdude, in that case NFS or sftp
[00:23] <chovynz> usr13: what is nfs?
[00:23] <diverdude> escott, yes
[00:24] <hadees> i'm using foreman in ubuntu server and it just won't read my .env file I don't know why
[00:24] <diverdude> escott, sftp and webdav
[00:24] <diverdude> possibly also nfs
[00:24] <usr13> chovynz: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[00:24] <escott> diverdude, sftp is the easiest to setup in many ways
[00:24] <bushin> .
[00:25] <chovynz> usr13: oooo! thanks. looking into it
[00:25] <bjrohan> escott: rebooting into LiveUSB now to do the install, will need guidance in the repertitioning
[00:25] <escott> diverdude, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/ you can skip to the 4.9 and up instructions and skip the building/installing steps. just do apt-get install openssh-server
[00:25] <escott> bjrohan, you can probably just select "install alongside windows" and ubuntu should do something sensible but i would review it just to be sure
[00:26] <bjrohan> escott: on the first install page it shows not connected to the internet, will it connect during install to install updates?
[00:27] <usr13> chovynz: Samba, if you also have MS Windows clients. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[00:27] <escott> bjrohan, depends on how you are connected. also please verify that you are booting in efi mode. navigate on the filesystem in the livecd to /sys/firmware/efi and make sure that the directory exists
[00:28] <chovynz> usr13: one other thing i should probably mention : my server is direct connected via wire to my router. The other pc's in the house get the local lan via wireless. Is NFS going to open up my server to the net or will my network stay hidden behind my stealthed (normal) router?
[00:28] <bjrohan> escott: currently I am in a menu for installing, do you suggest run from liveCD first? I can also connect via ethernet when installing
[00:29] <usr13> chovynz: It will be inside the LAN, unless you create provisions to serve it to public.
[00:29] <usr13> chovynz: In other words, no, it's not a security risk.
[00:29] <diverdude> escott, he needs access with rsync
[00:29] <chovynz> usr13: Thanks for that. I have samba set up already to a large extent, but that doesn't answer my question of how to get the web interface working properly so that my kids don't need to learn to program.
[00:30] <escott> diverdude, then you need to run an rsync server
[00:30] <chovynz> usr13: or am i looking at this the wrong way?
[00:30] <diverdude> escott, ok.... and jail him with chroot?
[00:30] <usr13> chovynz: "web interface" ?   What exactly are you wanting to serve to the LAN?
[00:30] <escott> diverdude, im sure rsync has some way of doing jails. but i wouldn't do it with chroot
[00:31] <krywk> Hello there.
[00:31] <krywk> I'm in a problem here with GLC.
[00:31] <usr13> chovynz: nfs and samba are for file sharing, (not a web interface).
[00:31] <krywk> Since there's almost nobody there, I might just come here and ask it.
[00:31] <escott> diverdude, you could also do ssh auth_key based restrictions to restrict him to rsync commands and then try to sanitize those rsync commands
[00:31] <krywk> I'm recording gameplay footage of Bioshock 2.
[00:31] <chovynz> usr13: im not sure myself lol. I just know there has to be an easier way for my kids to access the pdfs, avi's and mp3 that are on the server, rather than through filezilla, or ssh.
[00:31] <escott> diverdude, i think the rsync in ubuntu even comes with an example script
[00:31] <krywk> In glc-play, all sound is played.
[00:31] <bjrohan> escott, navigating to the dir, it does exist when running from LiveUSB, the /sys/firmware/efi
[00:32] <awole20> hey ubuntu, any reason why ls/find/other commands would send back "No such file or directory"? path is in tact(/usr/local/sbin:usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games), and which ls points to /bin/ls
[00:32] <krywk> But when I encode, only the cutscene's audio is played.
[00:32] <chovynz> !mediabuntu
[00:32] <escott> bjrohan, good. just wanted to make sure its there.
[00:32] <krywk> This happens in any media player.
[00:32] <krywk> Any help?
[00:32] <dakotawulfy> is there a way to use the ubuntu alternative installer for another ubuntu  distro ????
[00:33] <usr13> chovynz: Ok.  nfs and/or samba is what you want, (depends on whether your PCs are Linux or mixed, (Linux/PCs etc.)
[00:33] <bjrohan> escott: return to install, and go ahead and do the guided install process
[00:33] <escott> awole20, please paste the full terminal session
[00:33] <usr13> chovynz: I prefer nfs
[00:34] <krywk> Any suggestions?
[00:34] <diverdude> escott, example of what
[00:34] <escott> diverdude, /usr/share/doc/rsync/scripts/rrsync.gz
[00:35] <veri> I have a problem with my colors. http://i.imgur.com/gaH8h.png
[00:36] <veri> The menu is too bright.
[00:37] <chovynz> usr13: does this help explain what i see and why i want it different?
[00:37] <chovynz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446434/
[00:38] <chovynz> that is the web view of 192.168.x.x
[00:38] <fizyplankton> if im doing a netboot install, can i shutdown my computer's DHCP server and go back to the router's normal DHCP once the installer starts up?
[00:39] <bjrohan> escott: Once I have the O/S installed (64 bit) I assume I must reinstall all the programs I want, then I can copy over the data files from my existing Ubuntu 32bit computer
[00:40] <Evil_Eric> i have a stupid question , How do i check my kernal version on ubuntu ?
[00:40] <fizyplankton> Evil_Eric: uname -a
[00:40] <Evil_Eric> thanks
[00:40] <usr13> chovynz: Well, I dono, file-names are file-names, what else can it be.  If you think the file-names are not intuitive enough, pick ones that are.
[00:40] <chovynz> usr13: sharing from the server is no prob, i have that set up already. I'm more after a simpler way for my kids to access the content of my server, (e.g. self-controlled, self directed playlists for all music found on server / image viewers to display any images clicked on / avi's to play )
[00:42] <chovynz> usr13: Is there something out there that would make my kids easier to navigate to the stuff, or would i need to make an interface myself with mime-types and stuff?
[00:42] <usr13> chovynz: For that, I can only say;  Logical file management.
[00:43] <usr13> chovynz: In other words, arrange the files and directories in such a way that it is what you want them to see.
[00:43] <escott> bjrohan, sure
[00:43] <usr13> chovynz: I would just use nfs and   ^^^
[00:43] <chovynz> usr13: thanks for your help :)
[00:43] <zerothis> trying to apt-build wine, stuck in a libtiff4-dev/liptiff5-dev/libsane dependancy circle. apt-build removes the very packages required to build wine before it tries to install wine
[00:43] <bjrohan> When I am done the installation with WIN8 from liveUSB it will set up GRUB automagically correct?
[00:44] <escott> bjrohan, hopefully. efi is new so you might have to go in and fix it up, but hopefully it just works
[00:44] <steven__> How do I install the kde desktop environment? I would like to be able to log out and try it once in awhile
[00:44] <bjrohan> escott: fingers crossed :-)
[00:45] <chovynz> usr13: how would i go about creating a self populating list? i.e. a script that reads all the HD for certain .filetype, then appends to a file, for reading by an external app?
[00:45] <escott> !info kubuntu-desktop | steven__
[00:45] <usr13> steven__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:45] <crf> hi. I'm using unity but my menus look strange. I have ambiance theme.
[00:45] <crf> the menus are all very pale
[00:45] <escott> chovynz, find / -iname *.ext > filenames.list
[00:46] <BlueMint> How can I get my two different ghraphics cards to run my 4 monitors. I only just Installed ubuntu from windows 7
[00:46] <chovynz> escott: extending that idea, how do i get that script to run every...say, 1 day?
[00:47] <escott> !cron | chovynz
[00:47] <chovynz> sweet! thanks escott
[00:47] <escott> BlueMint, not sure how likely that is to work. are they at least the same kind of graphics card?
[00:48] <BlueMint> escott, nope. As opposite as they can be. An AMD 6670 and my inbuilt motherboards
[00:48] <chovynz> crf: transparency applied ?
[00:48] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: it is possible. you will likely have to use xcinerama and hand write an xorg configuration file by hand
[00:49] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I wrote an xorg file by hand last night. No idea what xcinerama is though, fizyplankton
[00:49] <escott> fizyplankton, will BlueMint be able to get openGL working with that setup?
[00:49] <BlueMint> I don't play games. But I do program some 2D stuff
[00:50] <crf> chovyn this is what it looks like http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=npmhyp&s=6
[00:50] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: its a library for graphics that you will have to use instead of xrandr, the better one. it will be a LOT of work, and many graphics intense applicatoins will require xrandr, and so wont run
[00:50] <escott> BlueMint, opengl is use for compositing so its become somewhat of an expectation
[00:50] <fizyplankton> escott: yes, but it will be slower
[00:50] <fizyplankton> escott: BlueMint and by slower, i mean minecraft gets about 2 seconds / frame
[00:51] <BlueMint> Okay, I have heard xrandr mentioned a lot, but I don't quite know what it is. How do I get xcinerama
[00:51] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, oh lawdy
[00:51] <escott> fizyplankton, how does that work? does radeonhd pass the gem buffer to the ati for processing and then read it off and pass it back to the intel for blitting or is it pure software
[00:51] <crf> chovynz here is pic http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=npmhyp&s=6
[00:51] <steven__> What is the key command to bring up the activities menu for Gnome 3.6 in Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:52] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: in the xorg.conf file, you use option "xcinerama" "on" and it will disable xrandr
[00:53] <fizyplankton> escott: i havent the slightest bloody idea how any of this works. all i know is that getting the third monitor to work off of a second gfx card took 14 hours
[00:53] <root> is anyone here?
[00:53] <escott> fizyplankton, do you still have that setup? im curios what glxinfo says?
[00:53] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I do not quite know what I am doing. Do you mind checking if this is cortect? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446465/
[00:54] <chovynz> crf: the only thing i can think of is try setting to a different theme?
[00:54] <fizyplankton> escott: i still have that setup
[00:54] <escott> fizyplankton, if you have the chance. would you mind pasting your "glxinfo" output. im curious what it says
[00:55] <danny> hello i have a nexus 7 and a blue ray copy of montypython and the holy grail i want to rip the dvd to a format readable and storable on my nexus 7 what program should i use
[00:56] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: in my experiance, using relative words like RightOf doesnt work as well as youd like. you have to do more absolute numbers. ill post mine in a second
[00:57] <redlion87> f
[00:57] <danny> ha nevermind not possible i dont have a blue ray dvd player on my computer sry dumb question
[00:57] <Rollin> danny thats more of an android question, but it depends on the video player you use
[00:57] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, thanks :)
[00:58] <danny> Rollin: i was looking for the right ripping software for ubuntu but i dont have the hardware required so no software will help but thanks
[00:58] <fizyplankton> escott: paste.ubuntu.com/1446472
[00:59] <escott> fizyplankton, that is pure software so everything is done on the CPU, and the completed buffers are passed to the GPU for display
[00:59] <bjrohan> escott, I finished the install, rebooted, and it just boots into windoze. What do I need to do to get grub to work?
[01:00] <escott> bjrohan, first check in the efi setup if it shows the linux option. also see if you need to press any keys during boot to see other boot options. if you don't see ubuntu there. boot the livecd and we can look around
[01:01] <kevin> hello
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Howdies
[01:02] <chovynz> usr13: plex might be what im after
[01:03] <usr13> I dono about plex
[01:03] <chovynz> usr13: http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/forum/85-linux/
[01:03] <Rollin> xmbc is more user friendly
[01:04] <chovynz> checking it out Rollin
[01:06] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: escott heres my xorg.conf file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446483/. i put a note at the top to make it easier to decode my kludges.
[01:06] <chovynz> Rollin: is there a stable version for ubuntu?
[01:07] <chovynz> Rollin: nvm. i found it in the software centre
[01:09] <BlueMint> thanks fizyplankton! I'm going to quickly restart my system
[01:13] <wowstargate> "Not Authorized" When Trying To Access USB Drive, Is There a way around this?
[01:14] <dakotawulfy> did it use to work wowstargate
[01:14] <wowstargate> yup
[01:14] <krywk> Guys
[01:14] <krywk> I really need help
[01:14] <dakotawulfy> go back to the old kernel
[01:15] <dakotawulfy> the new one i had soame problem
[01:15] <krywk> No one? :S
[01:15] <wowstargate> how can i install old kernel?
[01:15] <dakotawulfy> wowstargate u still have the old one on there???
[01:15] <wowstargate> all i did was an update
[01:15] <dakotawulfy> did u nuistall the other one???
[01:16] <dakotawulfy> ok grub
[01:16] <wowstargate> no
[01:16] <dakotawulfy>  will let u boot in to the older one
[01:16] <wowstargate> whats the key to get to the Grub menu?
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> press and hold "Shift" during loading Grub.
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> try that
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> wowstargate
[01:19] <bjrohan> escott: Hey there. I search and searched. I can boot into Ubunut if I hit the esc key, go into Boot Device options, my options are OS Boot Manager, Ubunutu, Network, Boot from EFI file
[01:19] <wowstargate> k thanks bro
[01:19] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, what is the first section 'server' thing?
[01:20] <escott> bjrohan, ok so in that efi boot options you should be able to bring ubuntu to the top of the boot list
[01:20] <bjrohan> escott: Going into the BIOS, then boot options I have USB diskette/USB hard drive, OS Manager< Internal DVD, Newtork adapter where I can arrange the order, but no Ubunutu there.
[01:20] <dakotawulfy> see if that works i found it was the kernel is why usb was not working same error u had wowstargate
[01:21] <escott> bjrohan, i dont really know. sounds like grub-efi is installed
[01:21] <bjrohan> escott: perhaps now that Ubuntu is installed I can add it to that O/S boot manager
[01:21] <escott> bjrohan, if you have booted ubuntu then check the /boot/efi folder to see if it has a listing for ubuntu
[01:21] <escott> bjrohan, yeah i have no idea what o/s boot manager is presumably the windows specific efi boot menu selector
[01:23] <bjrohan> escott: thank you for all of your help so far. when I get it figured out I will let you know. I would like a GRUB, vs windows option
[01:23] <bjrohan> grr windows
[01:23] <bjrohan> and MS
[01:23] <escott> bjrohan, just make sure that grub-efi is installed, and that the ubuntu listing appears in the /boot/efi (ie in the EFI System Partition)
[01:23] <tumppu_> >L1b3rator12
[01:23] <escott> bjrohan, beyond that you'll have to check the ubuntu efi docs or find someone who has an efi system
[01:25] <zorgborg> hallo - tried to install rkhunter 1.4.0, removed old repos version with apt-get remove, follwed README file install instructions, output reckons install was fine except i get Invalid SCRIPTDIR configuration option: Non-existent pathname: /usr/share/rkhunter/scripts when i try to run rkhunter. any pointers much appreciated :)
[01:28] <sarsaeol> do you have that directory zorgborg ?
[01:28] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, still there? What is the virtual thing in the screen section?
[01:28] <sarsaeol> or.. is the error still there if you mkdir ~/scripts
[01:30] <zorgborg> hangon
[01:32] <zorgborg> nope i dont even have /usr/share/rkhunter actually
[01:32] <Tech936> hey people how is everyone??
[01:33] <zorgborg> it shouldnt matter that i mv'd the extracted dir to .rkblahblah to make it hidden b4 installing?
[01:33] <veri> aah.. i found out why my menu bar is too bright. there is a typo in the style sheet.
[01:33] <dakotawulfy> is there any way to use the alternative installer for another ubuntu distro
[01:34] <aah> ok but why are you telling me, veri ?
[01:35] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: the virtual thing is where you put the resolutions.
[01:36] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, you have a 1920x1080 resolution, but for it yet put like 1400 1020
[01:36] <veri> i am surprised. i didn't want to bother you, aah. you have to admit your nick name is a veri common word.
[01:36] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: where are you talking about?
[01:37] <BlueMint> line 64 fizyplankton
[01:37] <aah> veri: that it is :)
[01:38] <veri> because of the type the background color is set to 95% of the foreground color `style "menubar" = "dark" { bg[NORMAL] = shade(0.95, @fg_color) }`
[01:39] <veri> sorry about that. :)
[01:39] <veri> typo*
[01:39] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: thats on the rightmost screen, which is a 12x10. the line that says "#ignore (i think)" is an artifact of when the system was confusing my center and right monitor reses
[01:40] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: go by the virtual lines, not the mode lines. if you get lost, use my decriptn at the top
[01:41] <aaas> anyone know if there' sa way to determin if you're connected to 'n-mode' wireless using the console?
[01:42] <whoever> hi all , have a question to make sure i understand :  if using aixmodem to transmit do i need asterisk  for aix to work
[01:43] <aaas> i guess the only way is to do iwconfig and check the bit rate, but that is signal quality dependent (i think), so not definitive if you have a bad reception
[01:44] <dakotawulfy> aaas
[01:44] <dakotawulfy> try this see if it works for u
[01:44] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, be right back. testing my config
[01:44] <fizyplankton> good luck
[01:44] <dakotawulfy> aaas iwlist wlan0 s
[01:45] <dakotawulfy> aaas  should give u all the info
[01:45] <aaas> dakotawulfy what do i look for?
[01:45] <dakotawulfy> look at protocol
[01:46] <dakotawulfy> Protocol:IEEE 802.11b
[01:46] <dakotawulfy>  after that
[01:46] <dakotawulfy>  n???
[01:46] <aaas> dakotawulfy i dont have protocol
[01:47] <aaas> iwlist wlan s | grep pro -i gives nothing dakotawulfy
[01:47] <dakotawulfy> ok
[01:47] <aaas> wait
[01:47] <dakotawulfy>  hold on
[01:47] <aaas> i see something says IEEE
[01:47] <aaas> one sec
[01:48] <aaas> says IEEE .111i
[01:48] <aaas> 802.11i
[01:49] <systemroot> hi
[01:49] <aaas> actually they all say i
[01:49] <aaas> i think this says if the router is capable, doesn't say whether you're connected that way
[01:50] <dakotawulfy>  whats your speed
[01:50] <dakotawulfy> aaas
[01:51] <aaas> dakotawulfy 150Mb/s
[01:51] <roadfish> Are there any ubuntu package that can properly edit vob files? I tried gopchop, mpgtx, and avidemux but they all failed. Either got audio sync problems or the vob cut didn't work with vamps or dvdauthor.
[01:52] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, swing and a miss. ): Here is the code I was using. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446539/
[01:52] <dakotawulfy> ok speed for wireless 130-150 Mbps
[01:52] <dakotawulfy> n that is
[01:53] <fishscene> roadfish: VOB is usually a packaged format... have you tried converting it to another format?
[01:53] <dakotawulfy> aaas
[01:53] <aaas> dakotawulfy yes im sure im connected that way, but i think that depends on signal quality right?
[01:53] <dakotawulfy> so u should be using the n
[01:53] <aaas> so say i walk across the house
[01:54] <aaas> it could drop to <54
[01:54] <dakotawulfy> yea
[01:54] <dakotawulfy>  but 150
[01:54] <aaas> so it's not the best test
[01:54] <dakotawulfy>  u have to be using the n
[01:54] <dakotawulfy>  g does not go up that far
[01:54] <aaas> ok now i want to do the same to a desktop across the house
[01:54] <aaas> it's 45
[01:54] <aaas> is it n or g?
[01:54] <roadfish> fishscene: I want to burn the vob file after trimming and shrinking it with vamps. So I really don't want to convert into another format, then trim it, and then convert back into vob.
[01:55] <bjrohan> escott: Here is what I found, and it worked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:55] <fishscene> roadfish: roger that. I'm not aware of anything (yet) that can edit vob files directly =\
[01:55] <roadfish> fishscene: in my reading, I got the impression that vob and mp4 are the same. is this true?
[01:56] <dakotawulfy> with g u only get up to 54
[01:56] <roadfish> fishscene: or is there some trivial conversion that removes some kind of simple wrapper to turn vob into mp4?
[01:56] <dakotawulfy> aaas
[01:56] <escott> bjrohan, as long as it doesnt break the windows boot
[01:56] <aaas> dakotawulfy or N
[01:56] <aaas> with a weak signal
[01:57] <bjrohan> Ohh, I should try that :-) booting into windoze
[01:57] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: a few things. even tho its the same gfx card, you need to define a seperate device for each port. also, you spelles MonitorFourtch
[01:57] <fishscene> roadfish: Nope. I believe VOB is a container format (like .mkv), and yes, I believe it has to be converted out of VOB first. I'm doing some research on editing vob files
[01:57] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, hehehe, thank you
[01:58] <BlueMint> and what do you mean a seperate device for each port. I did not understand at all in your paste
[01:58] <dakotawulfy> aaas see if u have 150 like u said
[01:58] <roadfish> fishscene: well, gopchop and mpgtx talk about editing. but they don't work well. and they don't seem to have received any development since 2005.
[01:58] <dakotawulfy>  it has to be using  n
[01:58] <aaas> dakotawulfy i cant it's a desktop across the house
[01:59] <dakotawulfy>  because the g does not go up that far
[01:59] <fishscene> roadfish: Check this out: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/464549
[02:00] <aaas> dakotawulfy look i walk my laptop across the house ...it WAS 150, now it's 45... did it switch from N to G?
[02:00] <dakotawulfy> yes
[02:00] <aaas> dakotawulfy i dont think that's right
[02:00] <dakotawulfy>  that means your signal is week
[02:01] <dakotawulfy>  but if i t can go over 54 that means it has to be using  the n
[02:01] <dakotawulfy>  because g does not go pass 54
[02:01] <aaas> but n can use <54 right?
[02:01] <dakotawulfy> yes
[02:01] <aaas> ok so if you see it <54 you dont know if it's g or n right?
[02:01] <dakotawulfy>  it will drop if signal is week
[02:02] <Tux|y> I am having some trouble getting a wretched winmodem working, this is what lspci -vv shows for the device: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446557/
[02:02] <dakotawulfy> well should not change on u
[02:02] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, thanks greatly for your help. It is very appreciated. Be right back, testing the new config
[02:02] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: each plug on your case counts as a device. so even tho center and right use internal, notice how i created a intdvi and intvga
[02:02] <dakotawulfy>  if it at n it should not switch to g
[02:02] <aaas> dakotawulfy ok but say now i go to a different ocmputer
[02:02] <dakotawulfy> if your connected
[02:02] <aaas> and it says <54
[02:02] <aaas> what do you say?
[02:02] <aaas> g or n?
[02:02] <roadfish> fishscene: ok, this looks like good stuff. makes sense in terms of what I have been reading. but it seems the author (and commenters) seems to know their stuff.
[02:02] <bjrohan> escott: the windows loader works as well, with a plethora of options
[02:03] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, be right, this is the config I am using now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446559/
[02:05] <dakotawulfy> aaas
[02:05] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, does not work :/
[02:05] <dakotawulfy>  can u check your router
[02:06] <dakotawulfy>  it should tell u there
[02:06] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: tell me that outoput of     lspci | grep -Ei "(intel|ati)"
[02:06] <aaas> dakotawulfy well just because a router is n-CAPABLE doesn't mean your device will necessarily connect that way
[02:07] <dakotawulfy> right
[02:07] <dakotawulfy>  if u go into the router
[02:07] <dakotawulfy>  it should tell u what your connections are
[02:08] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446565/
[02:08] <aaas> dakotawulfy it doesn't for dd-wrt
[02:10] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: what happens when you try to boot?
[02:11] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, goes to a screen where it says 'Graphics did not work properly, in low graphics mode' Or something like that. Then I have to rever the xorg.conf file
[02:12] <BlueMint> Wait
[02:12] <BlueMint> I don't think I have the right drivers installed
[02:12] <BlueMint> How can I check?
[02:12] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: send me /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:17] <binmax> hi all
[02:17] <binmax> can anyone help with a 12.04LTS lightdm problem?
[02:18] <WXZ1> if I want dual monitors, I need a graphics card with two D-sub ports, right?
[02:18] <wills> hi
[02:18] <wills> old yahoo chatter here
[02:18] <wills> yes
[02:19] <bjrohan> kindof a newbie question, how do I get into a recover console to change/correct my username? When I go to recovery and drop to a CLI, it says it can't get a lock on /etc/password
[02:19] <dakotawulfy> yep had to find a different chat room now wills
[02:19] <fizyplankton> bjrohan: you press shift at boot, select recovery, then you cannot drop to a shell?
[02:19] <dakotawulfy> wills i miss the yahoo one already
[02:19] <binmax> Have a desktop with 12.04LTS which will not start lightdm automatically any longer just hangs after boot, must use cmd line sudo service lightdm start to get it going any suggestions?
[02:20] <wills> i dont
[02:20] <bjrohan> I can drop into a shell fizyplankton problem is, when I type the command: usermod -l newname -m -d /home/newname oldname it says it can't get a password lock
[02:20] <wills> binmax is your screen dark?
[02:20] <dakotawulfy> binmax easiest is to get gdm
[02:20] <bjrohan> ls gives me nothing
[02:21] <dakotawulfy> seen alot of thing like that on line with light dm
[02:21] <binmax> wills: just hang after boot on the Ubuntu screen with the bubbles have to use CTRL-ALT +F5 login then issue the cmd stated.
[02:21] <fizyplankton> bjrohan: are you just trying to change a password?
[02:21] <bjrohan> no, I misspelled my name at install time :-(
[02:21] <dakotawulfy> then
[02:22] <dakotawulfy>  u made new user
[02:22] <dakotawulfy>  or chaged it
[02:22] <bjrohan> fizyplankton: I really just am looking to change my username to the correct spelling
[02:22] <wills> ok
[02:22] <dakotawulfy>  and light dm does not work right now
[02:22] <dakotawulfy> right
[02:23] <binmax> this happened after the user installed a pkg with ubuntu pkg manager and during the install the user said debconf came up and asked for selection kdm or lightdm they selected without knowing kdm, i have already done the dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[02:23] <fizyplankton> bjrohan: back up yyour /etc/passwd file, then type "sudo nano /etc/passwd" and scroll to the line that starts with your name, and change it to what you want. press ctrl-x, then y, then enter. im not sure ig this will work or nor
[02:23] <bjrohan> fizyplankton: to change my name so it is spelled correctly?
[02:24] <fizyplankton> bjrohan: yes. im not sure if this will work, so make sure to back up that file
[02:30] <DeliriumTremens> just installed server 12.04 and not using a window manager, it keeps turning off my display after 5m or so, how do i disable that?
[02:30] <binmax> is there anyone here who actually knows anything or is it just bots and BS?
[02:30] <escott> bjrohan, should work from a recovery shell, but that is not the same as ctrl-alt-f1
[02:31] <escott> DeliriumTremens, disable xdpms
[02:33] <binmax> hi all anyone here???
[02:33] <BlueMint> Sorry for the late reply fizyplankton, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446606/
[02:33] <escott> !patience | binmax
[02:33] <binmax> ubottu: TNX! for responding.
[02:34] <binmax> sh**
[02:36] <escott> binmax, i've experience the lightdm not starting but never figured out why. its either that the correct event is not being emitted to cause upstart to start the X server or upstart is misconfigured. not sure which it is
[02:36] <dakotawulfy> binmax what was your problem agin ???
[02:36] <dakotawulfy> i found \
[02:37] <dakotawulfy>  binmax on the net that some problem with lightdm said to use the gdm
[02:37] <DeliriumTremens> escott: i am not finding xorg.conf
[02:38] <escott> DeliriumTremens, there is no xorg.conf
[02:38] <DeliriumTremens> xset?
[02:38] <escott> DeliriumTremens, sure
[02:38] <DeliriumTremens> command not found ;_;
[02:39] <escott> !find xset
[02:39] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: are both cards only double headed? no triples?
[02:39] <escott> DeliriumTremens, are you not running an x server?
[02:40] <DeliriumTremens> i guess not
[02:40] <DeliriumTremens> i just did the default install
[02:40] <escott> DeliriumTremens, default server install? so its the console that is blanking not X
[02:41] <DeliriumTremens> i suppose, sorry
[02:41] <escott> DeliriumTremens, thats ok... i guess thats what you meant by not using a window manager... obvious in retrospect
[02:41] <escott> DeliriumTremens, no idea what controls kernel console blanking, but can probably be adjusted through /sys/something
[02:41] <DeliriumTremens> found it
[02:42] <DeliriumTremens> setterm -powersave off -blank 0
[02:42] <DeliriumTremens> sorry to bother :P
[02:42] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, what does double headed mean? They have 3 ports, but can only support 2 monitors each
[02:43] <fizyplankton> double headed means two ports. have you changed the xorg.conf file since you added the 4 devices?
[02:44] <angelpossum> hey is there a chat room for youtube and mincraft
[02:45] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, this is what i had when i restarted http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446559/
[02:45] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:46] <binmax> anyone else, i need help ubuntu 12.04LTS Desktop
[02:46] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, 12.04 or 12.10. Whatever one was the latest
[02:46] <BlueMint> 12.04.1
[02:47] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: im still on 10.04, so im not sure how this would work in newer versions. are you sure that you put the conf file in the right place? /etc/X11/xorg.conf X11 has an uppercase X
[02:48] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, yes I am positive it is in the correct place. It was a little empty when I opened it though
[02:51] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[02:51] <ElixirVitae> Is it possible  to replace compiz with awesome in Unity?
[02:52] <ElixirVitae> Or is it so that compiz is integral to the unity and that brakes many things?
[02:52] <binmax> Anyone know anything about lightdm startup problems with 12.04 desktop?
[02:53] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: perhaps you could try downgrading the xserver to 1.7.6. thats what i have. im not sure if that is a good idea though, so it might be a better idea to get a second opinion
[02:53] <Climbinghigh> hey
[02:53] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: did you install fglrx?
[02:54] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I have no clue what xserver is. I installed some AMD/ATI propietery FGLRX driver?
[02:54] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: did you install that driver?
[02:54] <BlueMint> Yep, says it's active in the 'additional drivers'
[02:55] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: uninstall it. that was the source of many of these 14 hours i spent getting the damned thing working
[02:55] <BlueMint> Okay, now what?
[02:55] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: uninstall it, then try to boot
[02:55] <BlueMint> Okay, thanks so much for your help! I'll be back, hopefully happy
[02:55] <fizyplankton> lol
[02:56] <Climbinghigh> has anyone ever tried installing ubuntu 12.04.1 from a 700MB CD-R80?
[02:58] <Climbinghigh> ...anyone?
[02:58] <Spr1ng> somebody say my name
[02:59] <Climbinghigh> Spr1ng
[02:59] <Spr1ng> awesome thx
[02:59] <Climbinghigh> lol
[02:59] <Climbinghigh> trying to set up highlighting?
[02:59] <KI4RO> Easily satisfied ain't he?
[02:59] <Climbinghigh> seems that way
[03:00] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I tried 2 things. I changed one of the drivers from 'intel' to 'vesa' and I rebooted. No errors, just didn't work.
[03:01] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: define "didnt work"
[03:01] <BlueMint> Then I uninstalled that FGLRX driver, and no change
[03:01] <escott> BlueMint, can you check if mesa is installed
[03:01] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, two of my monitors are still off, and my second monitor is still mirroring my first
[03:01] <BlueMint> escott, how?
[03:02] <escott> BlueMint, dpkg -l "*mesa*"
[03:03] <read1> does anyone know jow to prevent ubuntu from freezing.
[03:03] <fizyplankton> escott: for the record, i have mesa installed
[03:04] <escott> fizyplankton, yeah i know you will
[03:04] <BlueMint> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446648/
[03:04] <escott> fizyplankton, do you have the dri mesa package installed?
[03:05] <escott> BlueMint, and what displays are coming up, the ATI or integrated
[03:05] <BlueMint> integrated
[03:05] <fizyplankton> escott: what exactly is its package name?
[03:05] <escott> fizyplankton, libgl-mesa-dri
[03:05] <escott> fizyplankton, libgl1-mesa-dri
[03:05] <fizyplankton> yes
[03:06] <escott> BlueMint, "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils; glxinfo | grep renderer"
[03:07] <read1> if anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it
[03:07] <escott> read1, put it in the oven.... you'll have to describe what exactly happens when it freezes
[03:07] <BlueMint> escott, done, now what?
[03:08] <escott> BlueMint, what was the output of the glxinfo | grep renderer
[03:09] <BlueMint> escott, OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)
[03:09] <fizyplankton> escott: i got OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[03:09] <read> escott when it freeze i can't move the mouse or anything. I have to shutdown the computer with the power button
[03:09] <escott> fizyplankton, presumably thats because it is older
[03:09] <escott> !reisub | reed
[03:09] <escott> !reisub | read
[03:10] <escott> read, when you hit capslock does the light come on?
[03:10] <escott> BlueMint, i don't think it will tell anything useful but what does glxinfo | grep vendor say (probably just mesa)
[03:10] <escott> BlueMint, fizyplankton is i915 loaded on your systems? lsmod | grep i915
[03:11] <read> ubottu my laptop doesn't have the printscreen button
[03:11] <fizyplankton> escott: nope
[03:11] <escott> fizyplankton, and presumably not drm either
[03:11] <fizyplankton> read: its likely a blue "fn" key
[03:11] <read> ubottu: i did read that article too
[03:11] <read> escott: i did not tried that. when it happens I'll see
[03:12] <fizyplankton> escott: what do you mean presumably not drm?
[03:12] <read> ubottu: what u mean by a bot/
[03:12] <escott> read, most freezes are graphics freezes where the graphics card locks up and the kernel cannot draw to the screen, but otherwise the system is fully functional
[03:12] <BlueMint> escott, brb, I'm going to restart. I pressed ALT CTRL F1, and I got a console on my 3rd and fourth screen
[03:12] <escott> fizyplankton, ie lsmod | grep drm does not show the drm module (if you aren't using i915 then you probably aren't using drm either)
[03:12] <fizyplankton> read: ubottu is a robot. hes not a person
[03:13] <fizyplankton> escott: it has the results
[03:13] <read> escott: yes the system is fully fuctional until the freeze occurs. In fact I am on the computer now and so far it hasn't frozen
[03:13] <escott> read, when someone in channel !command | read you get a canned message. faster than typing things out in full
[03:13] <fizyplankton> escott:  drm_kms_helper         29329  1 radeon\ndrm                   163779  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper\nagpgart                31724  2 ttm,drm trying to save on line spamming there
[03:14] <escott> read, im saying after the freeze it may still be working. the only thing not working might be the graphics card
[03:14] <escott> fizyplankton, interesting. so you have radeonhd, but not i915
[03:14] <fizyplankton> read: when it freezes hit ctrl-alt-f1 and see what happens
[03:15] <fizyplankton> escott: both of my cards are radeon hds, just different model numbers
[03:15] <read> I tried that too fizyplankton my keyboard makes the command prompt to come up only when I use the command alt t
[03:15] <escott> fizyplankton, ahhh. right its BlueMint who is trying to go asymmetric
[03:15] <escott> read, do you have an nvidia card?
[03:16] <RedMint> Sorry i froze
[03:17] <escott> RedMint, whats next GreenMint ;)
[03:17] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: stupid idea. make sure that the second card is enabled in bios. my mobo had some stupid setting called "surround view" that only became availible when an ati card was inserted (making my $50 nvidia card worthless)
[03:17] <RedMint> escott, hahaha, yep :)
[03:17] <Climbinghigh> adios peeps
[03:17] <read> escott: i tried installing an nvidia card last time and I had me huge problems come up. For example I would not be allow into the desktop. I would be stuck on login loop
[03:17] <RedMint> fizyplankton, yep, it's available in bios
[03:17] <RedMint> I just got text up on there just before :)
[03:17] <read> escott: i uninstalled it and now I can login but the computer still freezes for some reason
[03:18] <fizyplankton> RedMint: is there an option for card priority? that needs to be set properly too
[03:18] <escott> RedMint, so one thing to keep in mind is that fizyplankton at least has the same basic driver driving the two displays (radeon) you will need radeonhd and intel and i have no idea how well that will work
[03:18] <read> escott: i want to be able to read what codes comes up as the reason for the freeze
[03:18] <escott> read, if you can properly REISUB then you can check the syslog in /var/log
[03:18] <read> escott: i do get a bug report the moment I login saying something is wrong
[03:19] <RedMint> I had it working on windows about 2 hours ago.
[03:19] <RedMint> All four monitors, as an extended desktop
[03:19] <fizyplankton> RedMint: is the internal gfx intell?
[03:19] <escott> RedMint, windows has a completely different architecture for graphics drivers
[03:19] <RedMint> Yes, but I think the driver is vesa. When I first opened xorg.conf it had it as vesa
[03:19] <read> escott: is there a different key to sysr or print screen on a laptop?
[03:20] <escott> RedMint, things you might try include !nomodeset
[03:20] <fizyplankton> RedMint: i dont reccommend that
[03:20] <fizyplankton> RedMint: iv done that before, and iirc, it corrupted my kernel
[03:21] <RedMint> fizyplankton, having the driver as vesa? o.OI
[03:21] <fizyplankton> all i remember is that i ended up needing to recompile the kernel
[03:21] <fizyplankton> RedMint: try changing the drivers from vesa to whatever they were before
[03:21] <RedMint> intel
[03:21] <RedMint> Okay
[03:25] <read> Any other suggestions?
[03:26] <read> does anyone know where I can look for an answer to stoping my ubuntu 12.10 from freezing?
[03:27] <heoyea> pull plug
[03:27] <bluwhale>  Anyone here who can give me a hand with Synergy? Please and thank you.
[03:27] <read> heoyea: lol
[03:28] <heoyea> freezing put on coat
[03:28] <blackshirt> !ppa-purge
[03:29] <bkfitz> Anyone know how to vpn using pptp command line
[03:29] <heoyea> nop
[03:30]  * Tech936 slaps people just for lulz and because im shatterd 
[03:31] <mycah> I was wondering if someone knew why my logitech mouse would have such a crappy connection with my computer on Xubuntu... If I even place my hand in between the mouse and the dongle, it stops working. Any ideas?
[03:32] <fizyplankton> mycah: coudld the batteries be low?
[03:32] <heoyea> cheap product
[03:32] <mycah> It's a logitech anywhere mx
[03:32] <mycah> and I've tried other mice too
[03:32] <bkfitz> ok... does anyone know where ubuntu might log any vpn connection attempts through the indicator applet vpn settings gui
[03:32] <mycah> same issue.
[03:32] <heoyea> or interference
[03:33] <escott> mycah, is it IR
[03:33] <mycah> not sure escott
[03:34] <escott> mycah, if its IR putting a heat source in between it and the receiver would interrupt the signal
[03:35] <mycah> IE, my hand. But I haven't seen it on any other install :/
[03:38] <ejo> if it is just wireless and not IR, sometimes there seem to be problems with nearby metallic objects.  Try locating the dongle differently... maybe you have a USB outlet extender on your monitor or your printer... or get a 6 foot usb extension cord and run it in that
[03:42] <read> ubottu: what repository-name>/subdirectory can I purge?
 wants you to know: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[03:43] <heoyea> read: in ur /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:43] <read> ubottu: got it
[03:46] <read> heoyea: do you mean this: sudo ppa-purge ppa:/etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:47] <read> heoyea: so bot are computers?
[03:47] <BoomerBile> read, bots are programs that run on computers
[03:48] <read> Boomerbile: so is not a person, is just a program that post possible answer to our problem?
[03:49] <BoomerBile> well, someone had to write that program
[03:49] <BoomerBile> and someone has to control it
[03:49] <somsip> !ubottu | read
[03:50] <heoyea> HAL
[03:51] <bazhang> heoyea, ?
[03:51] <read> somsip: intersting,
[03:52] <read> somsip: i will uravel that brain and hopefully find the answer to my question
[03:56] <heoyea> hi
[03:57] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: any progress?
[03:58] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, Kinda
[03:58] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I did get up the GUI on my third monitor
[03:58] <BlueMint> But I could not also get it up on the first and second at the same time
[03:58] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: send me /var/log/Xorg.0.log again
[03:59] <heoyea> virus
[04:00] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446726/
[04:00] <bazhang> heoyea, what are you talking about
[04:01] <schnoodles> When installing ubuntu what option should you chose if you want to install over top of the original ubuntu install ? (reinstalling)
[04:02] <heoyea> 0
[04:03] <bazhang> schnoodles, for dual boot, or single boot, ubuntu only
[04:05] <schnoodles> its dual boot. its already installed but screwed from tasksel so i want to reinstall over top
[04:06] <read> somsip: thanks for the bot Unfortunately i still haven't found an answer
[04:06] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: try changing the "intel" drivers to "ati". just to see what happens
[04:06] <BlueMint> Eye eye cap'n
[04:07] <Septima> schnoodles: i don't remember what the options are labeled, but i'd go with the custom option and just delete and recreate the ext4 for / and select it for the installation
[04:07] <heoyea> no si
[04:07] <somsip> read: what is the question
[04:07] <bazhang> !ot | heoyea
[04:08] <acetoline> ok I have this really weird problem; I run top, and it shows several sh processes using a LOT of cpu
[04:08] <acetoline> has anyone else seen this, and what is it
[04:08] <fizyplankton> acetoline: how many processors do you have?
[04:09] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, It did not change a single thing
[04:09] <acetoline> fizyplankton: single 4-core processor
[04:09] <acetoline> core i5
[04:09] <fizyplankton> acetoline: i believe top doesnt scale the proccy load. so the maximun is 400%. just divide all the numbers ny 4 to get an accurate reading
[04:10] <escott> acetoline, ps ax | grep
[04:10] <acetoline> fizyplankton: yes I did, the sum is pretty close to 100% usage
[04:10] <acetoline> i.e. 400% as reported by top
[04:10] <escott> fizyplankton, acetoline, anything above a few percent is high for sh
[04:10] <acetoline> escott: yes exactly
[04:10] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: do lsmod | grep radeon
[04:10] <acetoline> and the system isn't even doing anything
[04:11] <heoyea> nah
[04:11] <acetoline> no weird scripts or anything
[04:11] <acetoline> at least that I know of
[04:11] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, it's 4 line. Can I paste to the channel?
[04:11] <crazyzurfer> Hi, can anybody help me installing utorrent? :)
[04:11] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: just do the first
[04:11] <BlueMint> I have
[04:12] <BlueMint> radeon                804518  1
[04:12] <BlueMint> ttm                    76949  1 radeon
[04:12] <BlueMint> drm_kms_helper         46978  1 radeon
[04:12] <BlueMint> drm                   241921  3 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
[04:12] <BlueMint> i2c_algo_bit           13423  1 radeon
[04:12] <FloodBot1> BlueMint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:12] <bazhang> crazyzurfer, just use a native one, included with Ubuntu
[04:12] <acetoline> could I be infected with malware of some sort?
[04:12] <bazhang> !torrent | crazyzurfer
[04:12] <escott> acetoline, what is "ps ax | grep sh" show
[04:12] <acetoline> escott: I killed the processes
[04:12] <escott> acetoline, well thats going to make it harder
[04:13] <bazhang> crazyzurfer, have a look at transmission and deluge
[04:13] <crazyzurfer> bazhang: I know I've Transmission, but I don't like it, because if I want to add trackers, I have to do it one by one, and I'd like to add a list
[04:13] <acetoline> escott: they'll probably come back, I had this problem several days ago as well
[04:13] <escott> acetoline, probably just some badly written script somewhere that got stuck in a tight loop
[04:13] <acetoline> will try ps ax | grep sh then
[04:13] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, did you read that ^
[04:13] <fizyplankton> read what?
[04:13] <heoyea> ic
[04:13] <BlueMint> My paste?
[04:13] <bazhang> heoyea, stop with the random commentary.  #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[04:13] <jrp> hi, Im a bit confused. I set up a hardware raid1 in the bios, but when i go into the ubuntu server isntall it shows me both disks as installation targets. it should only show me one, if I understand correctly. what gives?
[04:14] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: yep
[04:14] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, everything appear fine?
[04:14] <escott> acetoline, you will see the executable after that since when /usr/bin/script has a shebang #!/bin/sh it gets executed as /bin/sh /usr/bin/script
[04:15] <escott> jrp, don't use fake raid
[04:15] <acetoline> escott: it happened again and I tracked it down
[04:15] <acetoline> indeed, it was a badly-written script
[04:15] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: it may be worth a try to switch around the screen numbers at the bottom of the file, in the device sectiosn. try every combination of ones and zeros. i had to do that to get mine working. in the meantime, i need food.
[04:15] <escott> !fakeraid | jrp
[04:16] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, WAIT
[04:16]  * fizyplankton waits
[04:16] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, so I don't do like screen 2 and screen 3?
[04:16] <BlueMint> Cause that is what I have
[04:16] <heoyea> bazhang: who dis?
[04:16] <escott> BlueMint, have you pasted your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:17] <bazhang> heoyea, last warning
[04:17] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: at the bottom, where there is screen 0 and screen 1, under the device category, change these to every permutation of 1 and 0 you can. not the 0123 at the top. just near the borrom
[04:17] <heoyea> bazhang: stop flirting with me
[04:17] <BlueMint> escott, I did let me find it
[04:17] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, enjoy your food, sir! o/
[04:18] <read> somsip: my ubuntu freezes n im not able to use my mouse key. I hear is a graphic card problem
[04:18] <jrp> escott: this is a dell perc s110, its a server class machine, this still qualifies as a fakeraid?
[04:19] <escott> read, i never said it *was* a graphics card problem, just that such a problem is common. i haven't seen you take any steps to identify the actual cause
[04:19] <Carl_> I need sine help installing ubuntu on my laptop
[04:19] <Carl_> Some
[04:19] <BlueMint> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446726/
[04:19] <escott> jrp, perhaps not just saw "bios" and assumed. what is the raid controller
[04:19] <somsip> read: the bot is probably a bit basic for help like that. Best to ask here, or check out forums for users who have the same problems with the same card
[04:20] <jrp> escott: PERC S110 from what I can tell. I apologize, Im not very familiar with raid setups
[04:20] <fizyplankton> escott: heres a working xorg.log file for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/1446758/
[04:20] <escott> jrp, neither am i but that sounds legit maybe... i assume it cost a few hundred bugs. should be supported through dmraid
[04:21] <jrp> escott: alternatively not "Dell PowerEdge RAID Controller (PERC) S110 is targeted as a low-cost
[04:21] <read_> somsip: i'm a complete bigginer and most of the answer haven't  help me fix this problem. Thanks for the advice. I hope someone knows how to fix this problem
[04:21] <jrp> RAID solution for Dell PowerEdge value systems."
[04:21] <somsip> read_: sorry I can't help you on this one
[04:21] <escott> jrp, i saw a great website that identified actual capabilities by card
[04:21] <escott> jrp, identify it with lspci for starters
[04:21] <read_> simsop: i hear you
[04:22] <read_> somsip: do u use ubuntu?
[04:22] <escott> fizyplankton, im not sure how applicable yours will be to BlueMint's the whole having two radeons is very different from one radeon + one intel
[04:22] <somsip> read_: yes
[04:22] <fizyplankton> escott: but you can atleast kind of compare it to what it should look like
[04:22] <Carl_> I have a Dell Inspiron 15r. It has Core i-7 , 8gb ram , 30GB SSD and TB HHD. I have checked the Md5 sum of the version i am installing (64 bit desktop) but when I load the startup screen to install, it gets to the partition screen, and freezes if i click anything. I tried it on the desktop and it came up asking if i wanted to install along side or replace windows. I never got that on my laptop. I think it is a problem with the set up
[04:23] <read_> somsip: and you installed it on a pc or mac?
[04:23] <somsip> read_: pc
[04:23] <Carl_> PC sorry
[04:23] <escott> fizyplankton, yeah if i can get to the end... freaking war and peace over here
[04:23] <escott> jrp, check against this http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[04:24] <fizyplankton> escott: im really eager to see if BlueMint can get it working, b/c im still on lucid, and im terrified of upgrading, god forbid i should lookse my multitude of moinitors
[04:24] <jrp> escott: cool, thanks
[04:24] <read_> somsip: do you think it makes a different whether u use a cd burner to install ubuntu or a usb?
[04:24] <Carl_> Doesnt matter, I used DVD-R and worked fine.
[04:24] <somsip> read_: it should make no difference if you have confirmed the download is good with a md5 checksum
[04:25] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I will tell you if I ever get it working
[04:25] <BlueMint> I won't stop trying, and if I do, I'm back to windows
[04:25] <teh_pwnerer> i have installed the proprietary ati drivers for my video card... i need GL.h for development though.. if i install the libgl1-mesa drivers is that giong to install the open source video drivers again??????????????
[04:26] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, escott I have to go for now. I'll be on in an hour. Thanks a tonne for all your help
[04:26] <acetoline> escott: damn, the problem was exactly that it had #!/bin/sh instead of #!/bin/bash
[04:26] <acetoline> how did you know
[04:26] <acetoline> it used some commands that were bash-specific
[04:27] <read_> somsip: ok, well then I guess it wasn't anything I did wrong while installing ubuntu
[04:27] <jrp> escott: it looks like this is a software raid that doesnt support linux, or linux doesnt support it, whichever way you want to look at it. Ill use software raid, thank you for the help
[04:28] <escott> acetoline, /bin/sh is /bin/dash is POSIX sh not bash
[04:29] <cute_bettong> how do i terminate a zombie process? i have two of them in top but i don't know what the actuall process is
[04:29] <escott> fizyplankton, well BlueMint took off but i was going to advise him to check [     5.721] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[04:29] <escott> cute_bettong, you can't kill zombies. everyone knows that
[04:30] <escott> cute_bettong, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[04:32] <escott> cute_bettong, long and short a zombie process is a dead child who hasn't been reaped by its parent. it sits around until the parent waits but its completely dead so there is nothing to kill
[04:33] <escott> cute_bettong, unix manuals are great bedtime reading for your kids
[04:45] <somsip> And the answer appears to be 'yes'. Changing from using the model as the key to using model.unique_attribute has got the cache working properly
[04:46] <somsip> And that was in the wrong channel...
[04:46] <sara> hey im installing a tar.gz package and I don't know what to do after configuring the file
[04:52] <sara> Im reading the install file it says install libgtk2-dev befor makeing the file
[04:54] <sara> the install txt https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108724935/INSTALL
[04:55] <dboy> is it possible to have a live usb for a macair?
[04:56] <sara> development versions of GTK+ 2.10   where is it?
[04:57] <BlueMint> Hi, I have xrandr disabled. How can I view my displays?
[04:57] <sara> where are you guys
[04:58] <sara> ?
[04:58] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: what do you mean?
[04:58] <steven__> Algun latino?
[04:59] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I got the desktop up on my 3rd anf 4th monitors now :) But my first and second are just showing blank, pink screens. And I can't get into the 'displays' program becuase it says I need RANDR
[04:59] <steven__> hi sara!!!
[05:00] <xomniverse> I did an Ubuntu Minimal install and just installed xorg, xfce, etc. after the fact and everything was fine, but after changing my wireless connection settings, I can only connect to the internet by launching x-windows
[05:00] <xomniverse> is there a way to change the wifi settings so I am connected on boot again?
[05:00] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: thats what i was talking about with some programs not working correctly using xinerama. as a test, try putting a "#" at the beginning of the line that says xinerama on. you may get what looks like working quad monitors, but if you play with it, youll see its not
[05:01] <BlueMint> Okay :P
[05:02] <makara> hi. I want to disable the launcher completely. I've hidden it but it pops out whenever I drag something in any application. What2do?
[05:04] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, I now have perfect duals working :)
[05:04] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: what do you mean?
[05:05] <steven__> somebody can help me to explain me how i can use the IRC?
[05:06] <BlueMint> 1: Purple Screen2: Purple Screen3: Desktop 14:Destop 2
[05:06] <fizyplankton> is that with commenting out that line?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> steven__  you're using it now ...
[05:07] <kristof> libreoffice gives me the error: javaldx: can't find java runtime environment!
[05:07] <TrewRed> does one have to register there nick or is there no need to do that?
[05:07] <kristof> I can write and save files just fine. Should I be worried?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> TrewRed: you don't have to reg the nick
[05:08] <kristof> Anyone?
[05:08] <ftruzzi> hi, I can't get my virtualbox working after a update two days ago, It says i dont have the vboxdrv :\ what can I do to fix it?
[05:09] <pftx1> alguien sabe como evitar ataque avahi deamon
[05:09] <kristof> pftx1: Heh, que ataque?
[05:09] <xomniverse> my wifi network changed and wicd connects me fine when I am in xfce, but when I first boot, I have no internet access at the command prompt. How can I fix this?
[05:10] <deper29> xomniverse: are you in tty?
[05:10] <sara> the result for my make command after reading and following the install file sam@sam:~/Desktop/wabbitcode-1.0$ make make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:10] <pftx1> mira detecte que estaban entrando a mi pc con avahi deamon
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !es|pftx1:
[05:10] <kristof> ubottu: No es necesario. :P
[05:10] <deper29> sara: is there a makefile in the directory you're executing make from?
[05:11] <kristof> ...I did not notice the bang command just before that.
[05:11] <xomniverse> deper: not sure what that means? I did a minimal install, so my Ubuntu boots to a command prompt and I have to type "startx" to get into xfce
[05:11] <pftx1> alguien me puede orientar
[05:12] <sara> 2 files MakeFile.am- MakeFile.in
[05:12] <sara> not exactly the same
[05:13] <deper29> xomniverse: you have to add wicd to your startup services I imagine
[05:14] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, what does the screen variable mean in the devices section?
[05:14] <pftx1> kristof ouedes pasarte a ubuntu-es
[05:15] <fizyplankton> BlueMint: it means which port on the gfx card you are trying to use. catch is, it doesnt always work the way you think it does
[05:15] <sara> deper29 --- 2 files MakeFile.am- MakeFile.in
[05:15] <fizyplankton> !es|pftx1
[05:16] <deper29> sara: what is it you are trying to do? Did you download source from somewhere?
[05:16] <pftx1> anyone know how to avoid attack or protect avahi deamon
[05:17] <AndroUser> Quiet
[05:17] <sara> Yeah it is a tar.gz emulator
[05:17] <deper29> sara: can you give me a link to the emulator?
[05:18] <deper29> where you got the source from
[05:18] <sara> for TI calculator
[05:18] <sara> http://wabbit.codeplex.com/releases/view/45275
[05:18] <AndroUser> Sara, can u give me a link to your facebook?
[05:20] <BlueMint> fizyplankton, this is causing me too much anxiety. I think I might just switch back to windows 7 :/
[05:20] <deper29> sara: cd to the source directory of that
[05:20] <deper29> then do './configure'
[05:21] <deper29> then 'make'
[05:21] <sara> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:21] <sara> after make
[05:21] <raidensnake> any mention of raspberry pi support?
[05:22] <sara> there isn't any make file there two files MakeFile.in MakeFile.am
[05:22] <deper29> sara, did you configure first?
[05:22] <sara> yeah
[05:23] <deper29> when you configured did it spit out any errors?
[05:23] <deper29> because I just did ./configure, then make and it worked fine
[05:23] <sara> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/108724935/Untitled%20Document
[05:24] <sara> that was configure result
[05:24] <deper29> sara: can you pastebin that
[05:25] <raidensnake> too bad there isn't a way of running ubuntu on the 512MB raspberry pi
[05:25] <sara> http://pastebin.com/5YvnWa6b
[05:26] <deper29> sara: you spelled configure wrong
[05:26] <erncic> sara: you Gtk failed ... last line checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0)
[05:26] <deper29> if you type './conf' then hit tab it should autocomplete
[05:27] <sara> I wrote configure again see
[05:27] <deper29> sara: my bad :P
[05:27] <Raptors> Hey guys. Has anyone every ran into this prob with evolution? MAIL FROM command failed: Authentication Required.
[05:27] <sara> I didn't find gtk
[05:27] <sara> to install it
[05:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do i know if zlib is installed??
[05:27] <Raptors> I read the page that it links too and I seem to comply with everything it says
[05:27] <deper29> like waht erncic said, you need higher gtk
[05:27] <Raptors> I am completely lost as to what is causing this.
[05:27] <deper29> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:27] <Raptors> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257
[05:27] <Raptors> me?
[05:27] <erncic> sara: you need to upgrad gtk+ to at least 2.10.0 for the configure to get past this step
[05:28] <sara> such a package does not exist
[05:28] <AndroUser> Maybe u need to be sudo?
[05:28] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> who
[05:29] <AndroUser> Raptor
[05:29] <sara> if you know the command for it please tell me
[05:29] <deper29> !find gtk | sara
[05:29] <sara> all of them?
[05:29] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> !find zlib
[05:30] <deper29> sara: give me a sec
[05:31] <deper29> try sudo apt-get install libgtk
[05:32] <sara> http://pastebin.com/s09QUdHs          for apport gtk and apport
[05:33] <sara> I got an error i cannot install it
[05:37] <erncic> sara: try sudo apt-get install gtk+2.0
[05:37] <sara> http://pastebin.com/PmdPMgj4
[05:38] <sara> erncic doesn't work check url
[05:38] <deper29> sara: are you doing an upgrade or something at the same time?
[05:39] <erncic> you have apt-get or synaptec open in another window..?
[05:39] <sara> right now im installing lost of gtk which ubuto said
[05:39] <sara> with synaptic
[05:39] <sara> but when i was configuring it . it was closed
[05:40] <erncic> ubottu gave you a list off all packages that contained the letters gtk in the name.... not necessarily the one you need to install.
[05:40] <deper29> lol ^
[05:41] <sara> did it again same result
[05:41] <erncic> sara: is synaptic still open?
[05:42] <sara> closed it now to repead configure . did it same result
[05:42] <sara> its closed now why?
[05:42] <erncic> sara, pastebin your new .configure results?
[05:44] <sara> http://pastebin.com/ZeEcJXXN new configure
[05:46] <sara> http://www.gtk.org/download/linux.php     source file for gtk
[05:46] <sara> which one do i need?
[05:47] <deper29> sara: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:47] <sara> 12.04
[05:48] <deper29> sara: sudo apt-get install gtk+3.0
[05:49] <sara> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:49] <deper29> wtf lol
[05:49] <deper29> compile from source then
[05:50] <erncic> sara: you are still using synaptic and it is holding this lock open which is stopping you. Close synaptic
[05:50] <dooma09> quick question. i can use ethernet switch for network and it works. now can i use that switch with phone that uses cat5 cable?
[05:52] <sara> OOps yeah you right. this time I forgot to close that manager
[05:55]  * deper29 leaves temporarily to reboot into 3.7.1 kernel
[05:57] <sara> checking for GTK... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.10.0) were not met:
[05:57] <sara> for 3.0 now im installing 0.2
[05:57] <sara> mean 2.0
[05:57] <NiteRain> I am trying to compile some code, and I am getting this error:  "undefined reference to `forkpty'" libc6-dev and libc6 is installed, and the path is in /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:58] <NiteRain> will I have to compile libc6 from source to fix this problem?
[06:00] <sara> it worked:) thanks deper69  and ernicic
[06:00] <deper29> sara: configure and make install worked?
[06:01] <sara> yeah perfectly
[06:03] <rollitup> i was using Ubuntu 12.04 dual-boot with windows live 7, today after doing some software update which eventually failed  and after rebooting the machine i am getting error: no such partition grub rescue > ls
[06:04] <crazyzurfer> anybody knows a way to transform avi videos to mp4?
[06:04] <dcherniv> crazyzurfer, ffmpeg+x264
[06:05] <cfhowlett> rollitup: suggest you reinstall grub
[06:05] <cfhowlett> crazyzurfer: yes.   ffmpeg would do that easily
[06:05] <cfhowlett> crazyzurfer: ffmpeg -i myvid.avi myvid.mp4
[06:06] <crazyzurfer> cfhowlett: it's already instelled?
[06:07] <fulcan> how do I fully set a program back to defaults in pkg-add? Just like the same as 'nuke'ing' it?
[06:07] <fulcan> blow out config, eveything
[06:07] <cfhowlett> crazyzurfer: on your system?  IDK.  Run this command in terminal to see
[06:07] <cfhowlett> crazyzurfer: apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[06:08] <cfhowlett> fulcan: go to your /home display hidden files and nuke the folders and configs.
[06:10] <fulcan> cfhowlett for something like openvpn that would do nothing.
[06:10] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett: ah, well ... sorry, but IDK.
[06:11] <cfhowlett> fulcan: are you out of country?  China perhaps?
[06:12] <fulcan> brooklyn
[06:12] <fulcan> why would that effect nuking a program?
[06:12] <rollitup> cfhowlett: should i reinstall grub by booting via USB ?
[06:12] <cfhowlett> rollitup: that would do it
[06:13] <rollitup> ok
[06:13] <Patero-ng> I wonder if you guys ever heard or use that software from 1988 called printmagic it was like paint that you could draw with a mouse but also had stored pictures
[06:14] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng: don't recall it.  My Paint sounds similar
[06:15] <Patero-ng> ever heard of that software from 1992 called banner it was used to create advertisements
[06:15] <fulcan> how do I fully set a program back to defaults in pkg-add? Just like the same as 'nuke'ing' it?  blow out config, eveything?
[06:25] <rushboy> hello I am new to gtk programming . I am trying to build my Hello World program for gtk but when compiling using : gcc 'pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0' prog.c , I get the following message :  error: pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0: No such file or directory . Any help is appreciated :)
[06:26] <kvothetech> rushboy: install pkg-config
[06:27] <rushboy> kvothetech: using sudo apt-get install pkg-config will do ?
[06:27] <kvothetech> idk
[06:28] <rushboy> kvothetech: This is what I get Reading package lists... Done
[06:28] <rushboy> Building dependency tree
[06:28] <rushboy> Reading state information... Done
[06:28] <rushboy> pkg-config is already the newest version.
[06:28] <rushboy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 386 not upgraded.
[06:28] <FloodBot1> rushboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <jalcine> rushboy: you're using the wrong kind of quote marks
[06:34] <jalcine> enter the following:
[06:35] <jalcine> gcc `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` prog.c
[06:35] <jalcine> the backticks (`) tells bash (your current shell, I assume) to execute the text within and return its value concatonated/injected into the command
[06:36] <Patero-ng> anybody here has ffdshow?
[06:36] <jalcine> rushboy: for more help, check out #ubuntu-app-devel
[06:38] <rushboy> jalcine: yes the error does not show up anymore but now I get an undefined reference to all the gtk functions used . for eg : undefined reference to `gtk_init'
[06:38] <hanasaki> what's a good set of tools for managing lots of vm's  kvm
[06:39] <jalcine> you're missing some headers then.
[06:39] <jalcine> rushboy: if you're just starting off, I recommend learning Python to build up applications
[06:40] <cfhowlett> rushboy: some good tutorials are available from FullCircleMagazine
[06:40] <paynit0> help with sudo apt-get install -f .....run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub exited with return code 1 Failed to process /etc/kernel/postrm.d at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic.postrm line 328. dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic (--remove):  subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[06:43] <rushboy> jalcine: Phew ! I got it finally :) Just replaced the previous command with : gcc prog.c `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[06:43] <dcherniv> Patero-ng, ffdshow is windows
[06:43] <rushboy> jalcine,cfho
[06:44] <rushboy> jalcine: Thanks for the help :)
[06:44] <Patero-ng> dcherniv do u use it
[06:44] <jalcine> rushboy: no problem
[06:44] <cfhowlett> rushboy: good luck
[06:44] <Kartagis> when someone sends a message, pidgin displays a smiley until I see the message. this happens with KDE. is there a way to do the same thing with cairo?
[06:45] <dcherniv> Patero-ng, no
[06:45] <dcherniv> Patero-ng, its windows software this is ubuntu channel
[06:46] <Patero-ng> why do u say that
[06:47] <dcherniv> Patero-ng, because you're asking about windows software in linux channel. Doubt anyone will be able to help you here
[06:47] <paynit0> what's with grub making apt-get not work  Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic  linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic  linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic  linux-image-3.2.0-33-generic
[06:51] <paynit0> what do you do when apt-get autoremove fails with E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code   about some kernels
[06:54] <Guest74242_> hi all. asking something. my java program launches a website (which has java applet) inside firefox. essentially, what it does is Runtime.getRuntime.exec("firefox www.mywebsitewithappletinside.com"). my firefox can open the page, but it can NOT render the applet. strangely, when i run "firefox www.mywebsitewithappletinside.com" at konsole, the page can be opened correctly, and the applet is rendered well. i use oracle jre 6.38
[06:54] <Guest74242_> by the way, i am using kubuntu 12.10
[06:56] <Noskcaj> Guest74242_, the go to #kubuntu
[06:56] <Noskcaj> *then
[06:57] <Guest74242_> Noskcaj, thanks
[06:57] <JimmyNeutron> After rebooting my system, I lost my wireless connection.  rfkill unblock all doesn't help either.  I also try powering off, popping out the laptop's battery, and pressing and holding the power button for 30secs and that didn't help either.  Any other suggestions?
[06:58] <Patero-ng> I want to learn how to u se vi to edit some iptables on my router can anybody guide me so I can add some ips I want banned
[06:58] <Crazyzurfer> Any way to transform avi to mp4?, someone here said ffmpeg --> it's deprecated :/
[06:58] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: deprecated yes but still available
[06:59] <Crazyzurfer> cfhowlett: doesn't work anyways
[06:59] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: ok.
[06:59] <Crazyzurfer> cfhowlett: generates an empty file with mp4 extension
[06:59]  * dcherniv ffmpeg is deprecated??
[06:59] <Crazyzurfer> cfhowlett: Am I using it wrong?
[07:00] <Crazyzurfer> it says that I should use avconv instead
[07:00] <Crazyzurfer> same problem
[07:00] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: I'd say yes but I may have given you the wrong command.
[07:00] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: do you want a ffmpeg command to try? I can't remember if its good quality or not...
[07:00] <dcherniv> ffmpeg is deprecated? are they out of their mind there?
[07:00] <ruan> ^
[07:00] <fizyplankton> ^
[07:01] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: okay
[07:01] <somsip> dcherniv: it uses a lib that needs to be marked as deprecated. appearently it's compilicated
[07:01] <somsip> Crazyzurfer:  ffmpeg -i $1 -y -f mp4 -vcodec libx264 -crf 28 -threads 0 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -deblockalpha -1 -deblockbeta -1 -refs 3 -bf 3 -coder 1 -me_method hex -me_range 18 -subq 7 -partitions +parti4x4+parti8x8+partp8x8+partb8x8 -g 320 -keyint_min 25 -level 41 -qmin 10 -qmax 51 -qcomp 1.0 -trellis 1 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -flags2 +mixed_refs+dct8x8+wpred+bpyramid  -ab 80 -ar 48000 -ac 2 ${1%%.*}'.mp4'
[07:01] <cfhowlett> dcherniv: internal politics, forks, personality issues ... the usual
[07:01] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: in a batch file as avi2mp4, usage avi2mp4 file.avi
[07:01] <ruan> big deal, they can compile it without that lib
[07:01] <ruan> not so hard
[07:02] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: so I run sudo bash avi2mp4 file.avi?
[07:02] <fizyplankton> cfhowlett: but but but.... this is the open source world? arent we supposed to be free from that internal political bull?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> fizyplankton: LOL!
[07:02] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: you can just replace the $1 and  ${1%%.*}'.mp4' with filenames
[07:02] <dcherniv> cfhowlett, somsip can i get a link to read up on that issue?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: should not require sudo
[07:03] <somsip> dcherniv: I searched for it and found it.
[07:03] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: so this should work:
[07:03] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: it works for me, but I can't remember how well. Could be ropey quality so might need tweaking
[07:03] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: fwiw I used ffmpeg to convert a .webm to .mp4 last night
[07:04] <Crazyzurfer> ffmpeg -i fileavi.avi -y -f mp4 -vcodec libx264 -crf 28 -threads 0 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -deblockalpha -1 -deblockbeta -1 -refs 3 -bf 3 -coder 1 -me_method hex -me_range 18 -subq 7 -partitions +parti4x4+parti8x8+partp8x8+partb8x8 -g 320 -keyint_min 25 -level 41 -qmin 10 -qmax 51 -qcomp 1.0 -trellis 1 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -flags2 +mixed_refs+dct8x8+wpred+bpyramid  -ab 80 -ar 48000 -ac 2 filemp4'.mp4'?
[07:04] <Crazyzurfer> that should work?
[07:05] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: at the end, lose the apostrophes at  filemp4'.mp4'
[07:05] <dormito> hello I just purchased an asus r11cx and I am trying to run ubuntu 12.10 live (to make sure it works and to lead into running an install). However the boot process hangs on a blank screen (there is only a cursor in the upper left) the ubuntu load screen doesn show up for a bit, and if I hit escape I can watch the progress, but it inevitably hangs at the same screen. I have tried different boot media (usb and dvd) and I have tried them
[07:05] <dormito> on an older asus netbook and the media does boot properly. Is there a way to obtain more information about whats failing? or if someone knows what wrong or has ideas that would help, that would be great
[07:05] <cfhowlett> dormito: may I suggest you try l/x/ubuntu?  Netbook specs are not desktop specs.  both those distros are optimized for low spec machines...
[07:06] <BlueMint> Is this a native application to Ubuntu that allows the burning of ISO's to a DVD?
[07:06] <dcherniv> blitzkrieg3, xfburn, brasero, k3b
[07:06] <Crazyzurfer> returns : Unknown encoder 'libx264'
[07:07] <dcherniv> Crazyzurfer, heh, apt-get install x264
[07:07] <deper29> BlueMint: dd
[07:07] <cfhowlett> Crazyzurfer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras will pull in all the multimedia packages, codecs and drivers
[07:08] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: install libx264
[07:09] <dormito> cfhowlett: thanks I'll try look one of those up (though that shouldnt matter, as I said the live media (i386 of course) ran on an older asus netbook, the r11cx is a new asus, and while the lighter weight would be good, it shouldnt be fatal from my point of view)
[07:09] <XMLnewbi> can some one help me with this, https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcnz8cl1yv4hhsm/make_ai_xml       Im not sure how to run it
[07:09] <Crazyzurfer> [ac3 @ 0xfb4fe0] frame sync error is that normal? xD
[07:09] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: if it continues, it's probably ok
[07:09] <Crazyzurfer> yep, it continues, how do I know, how long will it take?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> dormito: ok.  also, don't neglect to verify the iso with md5sum...
[07:10] <XMLnewbi> I dont understand the Zrun runq ect options...
[07:10] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: compared the seconds converted with the number of seconds in the source file
[07:10] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: I'd suggest doing a 10 seconds clip and them chekcing quality, if it's a big file
[07:10] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: it's a whole movie :O!
[07:11] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: try a clip first then
[07:11] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: so. I should stop it and see?
[07:11] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: you can do what you want.
[07:11] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: i'd suggest doing a 10 second clip first. Is there an echo in here?
[07:11] <ruan> they say it's 'no longer being developed' yet there was a new ffmpeg release just a few months after the deprecation
[07:12] <ruan> a major release, even
[07:12] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: where am I getting a 10 second clip AVI
[07:12] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: add -t 10 to the comand line (from memory - check it) to get a 10 second clip
[07:12] <cfhowlett> ruan: as I stated earlier ... MUCH confusion.  Also a fork or 2 is involved ...
[07:13] <ruan> I see, but ffmpeg.org is still alive
[07:13] <XMLnewbi> can some one help me use this script? it does a parse .csv to make a XML. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcnz8cl1yv4hhsm/make_ai_xml
[07:14] <XMLnewbi> I have the file and the file.csv I need to parse on the desktop. Im not sure how to run the file
[07:14] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: it's the same quality
[07:14] <sw0rdfish> can I set 2 listening ports for sshd
[07:14] <sw0rdfish> ?
[07:14] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: as what?
[07:15] <Crazyzurfer> as the avi file
[07:15] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: what's the same quality as the avi file?
[07:15] <Crazyzurfer> the mp4 file lol, the output is the same quality as the imput :P
[07:15] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: did you expect it to be better?
[07:15] <Altair> Can testdisk or photorec undelete HDD after an NTFS file system corruption due to a virus?
[07:16] <Altair> HDD data* sorry
[07:16] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: nope, I expected it to be worse
[07:17] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: I'm surprised too. From memory, that command did drop quality. But hey - that's memory
[07:18] <Patero-ng> I want to learn how to u se vi to edit some iptables on my router can anybody guide me so I can add some ips I want banned
[07:21] <Crazyzurfer> I've got another question. In google chrome (windows) I can listen to mp3 files with html5, but with chromium, I can't, and somebody told me that it was because chromium didn't had the codec by default, you had to add it to the OS in order to use it, How do I know if I've the mp3 codec?
[07:21] <Kartagis> Patero-ng: type :help in vi
[07:21] <Kartagis> better use vim though
[07:21] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: so - did the video conversion work for you?
[07:21] <Patero-ng> karakedi dude
[07:22] <Patero-ng> my router only comes with vi appanrently is lighter
[07:22] <Crazyzurfer> somsip: with 10 seconds clip, it worked, but Im converting a large file now, so I might know in a few time (guess is going to work)
[07:22] <somsip> Crazyzurfer: k
[07:25] <dormito> cfhowlett: I just tried a 12.04 live boot, and it worked (I hadnt realised I had the file untill a little bit ago, and the xubuntu had not finished), so Im guessing that 12.10 is the problem... maybe it doesnt recognize what ever passes for a gpu on the new netbook (but has drivers for the old)
[07:26] <XMLnewbi> XML Parsing Error: no element found Location: file:///home/bill/Desktop/test.xml Line Number 1, Column 1:
[07:26] <cfhowlett> dormito: yet another reason why I recommend only LTS installs ... and DON'T feel like you have to rush out to install the latest version!  It ain't an iPhone!
[07:28] <XMLnewbi> its weird because its made to generate a XML file; so why would it need one?
[07:29] <rollitup> cfhowlett: would reinstalling the grub allow me to get the system to boot as it was before the mess ?
[07:30] <rollitup> I meant to say that would I be able to get the option to boot in win 7 or Ubuntu ?
[07:31] <fizikz> i have booted a live usb ubuntu 12.04.1 on a macbook pro (5,2), but i come to a command prompt and no gui. any ideas what could be the problem?
[07:32] <dormito> additionally is there a good utility for backing up the preloaded win7 install, incase I need it (I would like to wipe the hd for the (x)ubuntu install)
[07:35] <Patero-ng> I want to learn how to u se vi to edit some iptables on my router can anybody guide me so I can add some ips I want banned
[07:36] <Crazyzurfer> In google chrome (windows) I can listen to mp3 files with html5, but with chromium, I can't, and somebody told me that it was because chromium didn't had the codec by default, you had to add it to the OS in order to use it, How do I know if I've the mp3 codec?
[07:37] <deper29> Patero-ng: vi is terrible
[07:38] <Patero-ng> deper29 you know how to use VI!?
[07:38] <deper29> Patero-ng: yes, and I *hate* it.
[07:38] <danabr> Hi, I need help setting up an SFTP server so that it logs every connection attempt and every attempted way of authentication (publickey, password, none, etc)
[07:38] <Patero-ng> explain me how to add some ips to the iptable of the router
[07:39] <danabr> I'm using the SFTP server from the openssh project
[07:39] <candicom> hello
[07:40] <candicom> there?
[07:40] <candicom> anyone?
[07:40] <MrWibbles> what's the best way of getting full disk encryption in ubuntu
[07:40] <serp_> Peanut: you dont need to use vi for that. any text editor will do. try nano
[07:40] <danabr> I've specified "Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server -f AUTH -l DEBUG3" sshd_config, but it does not provide much logging at all anyway (in /var/log/auth.log)
[07:40] <MrWibbles> and how much does it slow it down by
[07:41] <danabr> Do I need to do anything special to syslog to get more verbose output from the SFTP server?
[07:42] <cfedde> danabr: probably not.  Any configs to increase logging detail would be in the sftp server.
[07:42] <Eagleman> What does a ~ mean in a file ?
[07:42] <deper29> Patero-ng: you can use any editor for that. nano is probably easiest, though i prefer(and also don't recommend) emacs
[07:42] <cfedde> Eagleman: what command is showing you that?
[07:43] <danabr> cfedde: I thought so too. I expected much more output, since openssh use to be quite good at logging stuff, but I do not see any failed public key attempts for example.
[07:43] <Eagleman> cfedde ls -l
[07:43] <cfedde> Eagleman: that's part of a file name?
[07:43] <Eagleman> yes
[07:43] <cfedde> it's an emacs backup file
[07:43] <serp_> deper29: vi is aeesome
[07:44] <Eagleman> Any idea why it was made?
[07:44] <serp_> dont hate it just because youre too noob to use it
[07:44] <cfedde> Eagleman: an emacs session did not exit cleanly.
[07:44] <Eagleman> what is an emacs session?
[07:44] <cfedde> Eagleman: emacs is an editor.
[07:45] <deper29> serp_: I prefer emacs because it seems to do a lot more than vi. on top of that, vi's default setup is based on a qwerty keyboard which made navigation for me a *pain*
[07:45] <lynx7os5> Patero-ng: http://www.vim.org/docs.php   http://www.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial/iptables-tutorial.html   check these two out
[07:45] <fidel_> hi, i got a 12.10 vm here which has issues running apt. basically i end up with errors like that: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial.... Encountered a section with no package header. I already tried removing those partial files ....but still no success.
[07:45] <deper29> I can use it just fine, but just prefer emacs
[07:46] <serp_> deper29: just remap the keys then?
[07:47] <deper29> serp_: yeah, I can do that. I like when stuff works out of the box though :P and again, emacs still does more than vi
[07:47] <deper29> if i'm using a gui, I choose sublimetext over anything
[07:47] <cfedde> there is more to an editor than just key mapping.
[07:47] <Eagleman> Is there a way on who edited a file ?
[07:48] <cfedde> Eagleman: not so much.  Other than the username in the ls -l listing
[07:48] <Eagleman> everyone logs in as root, and the timestamp is for right now, since its some sort of log file'
[07:48] <deper29> cfedde: yeah, there's the fact that when you start vi you can't immediately begin typing unless you hit i
[07:48] <fidel_> apt error output looks like that: http://pastie.org/5546339
[07:48] <scarrs> I am trying to play quake 4... I have all the right files and I can run the dedicated server but when launching the client from within an x session I get the following: ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:49] <vitimiti> (-.-)/
[07:49] <fidel_> while i replaced my sources.list already once to make sure my sources arent the issue itself
[07:49] <cfedde> deper29: we all get tp pick our own poison.
[07:50] <cfedde> Eagleman: that's kind of a problemm  Users Should each have their own account and use root sparingly.
[07:50] <Eagleman> true
[07:50] <Eagleman> but i did not setup these systems
[07:51] <cfedde> Eagleman: what is the full name of the file we are talking about?
[07:51] <Eagleman> dhcp.leases
[07:51] <Eagleman> in /var/lib/dhcp3
[07:51] <cfedde> Eagleman: ah! do you know what dhcp is?
[07:51] <XMLnewbi> can some one help me use this script? it does a parse .csv to make a XML. https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcnz8cl1yv4hhsm/make_ai_xml        Its makeing a file but its blank :/
[07:51] <Eagleman> yes
[07:51] <cfedde> that's the file that contains the leases from the dhcp server running on that system
[07:52] <Eagleman> i know
[07:52] <MrBar> hi
[07:52] <cfedde> Eagleman: so does the file name contain a ~ or does the file itself contain the ~ characters?
[07:52] <Eagleman> there was an extra file with a ~ in the end of it
[07:52] <Eagleman> dhcp.leases ~
[07:52] <MrBar> who know why apt-move update removes up-to-date packages?
[07:52] <cfedde> Eagleman: that's part of how dhcp.leases updates itself.
[07:53] <fizikz> live usb of ubuntu 12.04 64bit is nto being able to start the xserver (fatal server error: no screens found). in the xorg.0.log file there are a number of warning/error lines relating to graphics driver modules being loaded/unloaded. what do i need to do to get xserver running?
[07:54] <cfedde> Eagleman: try the command watch ls -il /var/lib/dhcp3
[07:54] <Eagleman> 147426
[07:54] <Eagleman> No idea what that means
[07:55] <tree88> hi frens i installed ubuntu 12.10 stable version but when i try to shut down it stucks to blue screen and i  have to forceful shutdown plse help me
[07:56] <fidel_> tree88: tried executing the shutdown from terminal to get some output?
[07:56] <cfedde> Eagleman: the net here is that you don't need to worry about that file.  It's just dhcp doing what it is supposed to be doing.
[07:56] <usr13> tree88: What did you install on?
[07:56] <usr13> (hardware)
[07:56] <tree88> yea i tried shutdown -h now i have installed on my hp dm4 laptop notebook series
[07:57] <fizikz> the computer has an nvidia video card, but right now just running with vesa drivers would be fine, if i could get it to work
[07:57] <cfedde> Eagleman: man dhcp.leases includes the text "In order to prevent the lease database from growing without bound, the file is rewritten from time to time. First, a temporary lease database is created and all known leases are dumped to it. Then, the old lease database is renamed /var/lib/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases~. Finally, the newly written lease database is moved into place.
[07:58] <cfedde> "
[07:58] <tree88> i installed on hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl series
[07:58] <Eagleman> damm man pages, they tell you everything :P
[07:58] <tree88> i tried shut down from terminla but the same thing happens it stucks
[07:58] <Eagleman> should have read that first
[07:58] <cfedde> Eagleman: some times.
[07:59] <Kartagis> when someone sends a message, pidgin displays a smiley until I see the message. this happens with KDE. is there a way to do the same thing with cairo?
[08:01] <fidel_> hi - i am stuck with an apt issue on a 12.10 vm. i would call myself somehow used to apt in general - but never had that specific problem. Short description can be found here: http://pastie.org/5546370 - basically apt-get update ends with some gpg and sections with no package: header errrors
[08:02] <fidel_> as i removed the partial lists several time already i am wondering: is there some kind of apt-status file i might need to delete as well to jump out of that error loop i have right now?
[08:02] <blackshirt> fidel_, are you use some old repository ?
[08:03] <fidel_> blackshirt: well i already deleted my sources.list and tried 2 other sources collections - from different countries as well. no old repositories as far as i know
[08:03] <fidel_> the box had some ppa's installed before i upgraded it to 12.10 - but those were disabled at that point and not re-enabled
[08:04] <blackshirt> maybe better remove that ppa
[08:04] <fidel_> blackshirt: currently there is no more ppa enabled at all
[08:04] <blackshirt> stick with newest repo
[08:04] <usr13> fidel_: So, youre leaving some packages hanging, (no more updates).
[08:05] <palasso> I had an analogous experience. The PPA was supposedly disabled but when I checked the sources folder the txts were there with  errors. So I deleted them and everything worked fine.
[08:05] <fidel_> usr13: i would love to get apt back to basic work - focusing on ubuntu default packages first.
[08:05] <fidel_> usr13: right now i cant use apt at all to install updates
[08:06] <fidel_> as it always ends up in the errors listed in the pastie link
[08:06] <fidel_> if i try to execute: sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt i get: Bus error
[08:07] <blackshirt> fidel_, stick ply with terminal based program..mostly thats not depends on dbus
[08:08] <Nortio> hello what is name off the german channel?
[08:08] <fidel_> blackshirt: i am working with the cli only so far - but i dont see how your comment should help me to be honest
[08:08] <palasso> fidel_ in etc/apt/sources.list.d are there any txts?
[08:08] <TakeItEZ> !de
[08:08] <fidel_> !de > Nortio
[08:08] <palasso> *files
[08:08] <usr13> fidel_: 64bit?
[08:09] <Nortio> kty :D
[08:09] <fidel_> palasso: define txts? it is filed with repo urls yes
[08:09] <fidel_> usr13: yes 64bit
[08:09] <palasso> fidel_ go to sources.list.d folder not sources.list file
[08:09] <palasso> are there any kind of files in that folder?
[08:10] <fidel_> palasso: sources.list.d is empty
[08:10] <usr13> fidel_: lsb_release -a |pastebinit
[08:10] <fidel_> so the only sources that box has right now are located in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <vekonja> hi. can someone help me with http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17855
[08:10] <palasso> fidel_ what about the other folders on etc/apt ?
[08:10] <fidel_> usr13: its 12.10
[08:11] <fidel_> palasso: all folders in /etc/apt are empty besides apt.conf.d
[08:12] <palasso> maybe the problem is in sources.list Perhaps if you'd pastebin it someone could identify the problem
[08:12] <Kartagis> can cairo use libnotify?
[08:13] <fidel_> palasso: i used http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ (a sources.list generator) to replace my old sources.list to make sure that file is not the reason already (3 times to be honesT)
[08:13] <dormito> if I want to have a usb stick with a couple partitions containing live disks can I install grub to a partition on the usb and select at boot time which partition on to use?
[08:14] <XMLnewbi_> come some one take a look at this script? im trying to parse a CSV file and output XML for Illustrator; really could use some help https://www.dropbox.com/s/gx0sa59ynp1knzc/make_ai_xml
[08:14] <fidel_> i had those errors with german, french and swiss sources/apt-sources
[08:15] <Nortio> hello how i can deactivate keyring for internet browser?
[08:17] <fidel_> palasso: so well - i doubt it helps - but here is my sources.list: http://pastie.org/5546412
[08:17] <fedor> could anyone tell me, is there in Ubuntu12.10 total commander
[08:17] <vlt> fedor: You could try mc.
[08:17] <fidel_> fedor: there are tons of mc-like commmander apps - tried searching your apt-repository before asking here ;)
[08:18] <fedor> vlt: i do not understand
[08:18] <fidel_> fedor: mc is such a program
[08:18] <vlt> fedor: You could try the program “mc”.
[08:20] <Sara_> hey I need help to make wabbitemu for linux and the instruction for making the file are abit complex for me. is there anybody who can help me?  http://code.google.com/p/wxwabbitemu/wiki/Building
[08:21] <deper29> Sara_: weren't you trying this a little while ago?
[08:21] <Sara_> yeah unfortunately that one was IDE
[08:21] <Sara_> not a emulator
[08:22] <MrWibbles> what can you use for rolling backups on ubuntu?
[08:22] <deper29> Sara_: oh, I can walk you through this I suppose
[08:22] <Sara_> I have the package for windows but I need it for ubuntu
[08:22] <Sara_> thanks
[08:22] <JustSomeGuy> ls
[08:22] <Sara_> :)
[08:22] <JustSomeGuy> sry
[08:22] <deper29> Sara_: yeah, i'll just download source and walk you through it
[08:23] <deper29> you just want to build and install, correct?
[08:24] <Sara_> there isn't any source right now. just instruction http://code.google.com/p/wxwabbitemu/wiki/Building
[08:24] <Sara_> I have a rom file and i need to emulate it on this software
[08:26] <deper29> Sara_: there is source. i'm downloading it right now
[08:26] <Sara_> where is it?
[08:26] <deper29> at your link, click the link near the top that says source
[08:26] <deper29> and it gives you directions to download source
[08:27] <sgo11> hi, if I use "sudo -s" for root login shell, i have no problem. but when I use "sudo -s -u www-data" for www-data user login shell, I can see "No protocol specified" messages after running some programs. how can I get rid of this message? and why does NOT root login shell have it? thanks.
[08:29] <Sara_> sam@sam:~$ Non-members may check out a read-only working copy anonymously over HTTP. Non-members: command not found sam@sam:~$ svn checkout http://wxwabbitemu.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ wxwabbitemu-read-only The program 'svn' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install subversion
[08:29] <deper29> Sara_: oh, you don't have svn. you need that to download source. apt-get install subversion
[08:31] <usr13> sgo11: You have a user named www-data?
[08:32] <Sara_> where did we post the result of command line?
[08:32] <deper29> Sara_: i'm sorry?
[08:32] <usr13> sgo11: su - www-data
[08:32] <sgo11> usr13, www-data is for apache2 and nginx. thus i have that user, but that account is disabled by login and no home directory etc...
[08:33] <usr13> sgo11: What exactly are you trying to do?  (What is your end goal?)
[08:34] <deper29> Sara_: install svn, do that command to download source from googlesource, then cd into it, then cd into the build directory, type make
[08:35] <Sara_> what is the default directory for the downloaded files from google code
[08:35] <sgo11> usr13, su - www-data won't help. my end goal is to create/edit files with user "www-data". all files for apache2 or nginx server should be owned by www-data user. I am getting tired to chown and chmod all the time. sudo -s -u www-data seems an easy solution. only problem is the Xdislplay thing. I can fix it with xauth add I guess. but I don't want to run xauth add everytime. hopefully, my words make sense. thanks.
[08:36] <Sara_> I already donwloaded it but don't know where it is
[08:36] <deper29> Sara_: it'll be in your current directory
[08:36] <deper29> it'll be wxwabbit someithng
[08:36] <Sara_> its in home found it
[08:36] <somsip> sgo11: make the top directory sticky for www-data group
[08:37] <usr13> sgo11: Ok.  Here's what you should do.  Create user for each project and symlink to /var/www.
[08:37] <palasso> I have a Desktop PC with an AMD Radeon HD 4870 and Ubuntu 12.10. Why aren't there any options of proprietary drivers on the 'Additional Drivers' tab? Shouldn't I be expecting 3 options? (open source and enabled, proprietary-stable, proprietary-current)
[08:37] <Sara_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:37] <deper29> Sara_: did you cd into wxwabbit?
[08:38] <usr13> sgo11: In other words, mkdir public_html ; sudo ln -s public_html /var/www/MySite
[08:38] <Sara_> cd wxwabbitemu-read-only
[08:38] <sgo11> somsip, yeah, I knew that solution. since I am not very familiar with sticky thing, I am trying to avoid that solution even if I know how to do it. login as www-data seems easier and more reasonable solution than sticky tag.
[08:38] <deper29> Sara_: okay, now within that directory there is a build directory. cd there
[08:38] <usr13> sgo11: You can use as many symlinks as you like.  One for each site.
[08:38] <sgo11> usr13, I knew many solutions around this. but what I want now is login as www-data...
[08:39] <deper29> Sara_: the wiki is outdated it seems. if you read the README.txt in the source it tells you this
[08:39] <usr13> sgo11: SO wny not just move the files to your home dir?
[08:39] <usr13> sgo11: Doesn't that seem simplier?
[08:40] <somsip> sgo11: well, it's easy once you set it up. or you just set up an alias to sudo chgrp -R www-data *; find . -type d -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 770; find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 660
[08:40] <Sara_> ok terminal is done
[08:41] <Sara_> Linking wxWabbitemu
[08:41] <usr13> somsip: sgo11 To me, it's a lot easier to just serve from /home/sgo11/public_html
[08:41] <deper29> Sara_: so in the build directory, type 'sudo make install' and that will install it :)
[08:41] <usr13> somsip: sgo11 not sure why you would want to do anything more...
[08:41] <deper29> unless you just want it to make a binary you can run, then you can just make
[08:41] <somsip> usr13: to me it's easier to chmod g+s <shrugs>
[08:42] <Sara_> there is n't anyinstal file in there
[08:42] <Sara_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:43] <sgo11> somsip, usr13, thanks. I prefer sticky solution than moving/linking files to home dir. and prefer login as www-data to sticky solution. ^_^ any solutions will work. maybe I just run xauth add everytime. thanks.
[08:43] <usr13> somsip: Ok, well, just seems like a long way around the block.  The user should be able to manage the files from his/her own user space.
[08:43] <somsip> usr13: and when www-data needs to create minimised files, logs and caches? but then we're OT here...
[08:44] <deper29> Sara_: you are in the build directory?
[08:45] <Guest93719> #àubuntu
[08:45] <Guest93719> dd
[08:45] <Guest93719> skkkkn
[08:47] <Sara___> hey sorry dper i was frozen
[08:47] <Sara___> did you say anything after i said there isn't any install file in build
[08:47] <deper29> Sara___: are you in the bulid directroy?
[08:48] <admiral0> hello
[08:48] <Unclebeavz> hi guys
[08:48] <Sara___> yeah
[08:48] <admiral0> can anybody point me to the channel where ubiquity folks are?
[08:48] <deper29> Sara___: and you typed 'sudo make install'?
[08:49] <deper29> oh, no kidding, that doesn't work lol
[08:49] <Sara___> yeah didn't work and i restarted my ubuntu do i need to make again?
[08:49] <deper29> Sara___: nah, just do make
[08:49] <admiral0> found it never mind
[08:49] <deper29> no sudo, no install, just make
[08:49] <erncic> Sara___: the executable is going to be in wxwabbitemu-read-only/bin
[08:50] <Sara___> this time is different [08:50] <Sara___> after make command in build
[08:50] <Kartagis> why doesn't pidgin-libnotify act the same in both GNOME and KDE?
[08:50] <deper29> Sara___: okay, cd up one directroy
[08:50] <Sara___> after sudo make install  make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:51] <deper29> Sara___: don't do make install, it doesn't work
[08:51] <deper29> you did make though, yes?
[08:51] <Chat9186> O
[08:51] <Sara___> what do you mean cd up one directory
[08:51] <Sara___> ?
[08:51] <Sara___> wxwabbitemu-read-only
[08:51] <deper29> Sara___: 'cd ..' will go up one level
[08:52] <deper29> Sara___: cd ~/wxwabbitemu-read-only/bin
[08:52] <Sara___> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[08:52] <Sara___> in bin
[08:53] <Sara___> perfect the calculator is there
[08:53] <deper29> Sara___: then in there you will see a binary to run
[08:54] <Sara___> just one more thing . on the begining we installed svn or what?
[08:54] <deper29> Sara___: if you want to be able to execute it from anywhere, I suggest 'sudo cp path-to-binary /usr/bin/'
[08:54] <deper29> Sara___: yeah, you installed svn
[08:54] <Sara___> what was the command sudo apt-get install svn
[08:55] <deper29> that just installed subversion
[08:55] <Sara___> no it was diffenerent no svn
[08:55] <deper29> yeah, it was subversion
[08:55] <somsip> deper29: to put it in /usr/local/bin is slightly more standardised
[08:55] <deper29> Sara___: do what somsip says
[08:56] <deper29> somsip: what is the difference?
[08:56] <Sara___> cp: cannot stat `path-to-binary': No such file or directory
[08:56] <aqua> ?
[08:56] <deper29> Sara___: no, don't type path to binary, type the actual path to the binary
[08:57] <erncic> Sara___: you actually want sudo cp wxWabbitemu /usr/local/bin/
[08:57] <deper29> what is the difference between local/bin and bin?
[08:58] <somsip> deper29: AIUI, if it's not auto installed, it should be out of /usr/bin. Like: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4186/what-is-usr-local-bin-came-across-it-in-an-script-installation-for-applescript
[08:58] <TakeItEZ> deper29: /usr/loca is the place for stuff coming not from the repos/distro
[08:58] <deper29> ahhhh, I see
[08:58] <somsip> deper29: but no big issue
[08:58] <TakeItEZ>  /usr/local*
[08:58] <Sara___> should i use that command in bin directory or home or...
[08:58] <deper29> I know it'll work either way since they are still both in PATH
[08:59] <deper29> Sara___: sudo cp wxWabbitemu /usr/local/bin/
[08:59] <Sara___> i think im ok with the file in bin folder
[08:59] <Sara___> is this portable can i just move it around in usb?
[08:59] <deper29> yes
[09:03] <Sara___> thanks deper29  and ernicic
[09:03] <Sara___> it was great
[09:14] <Fuzzles> Can someone help me find out how to install steam drivers for my card plz
[09:17] <valroadie> I have a macbook 2,1 with a Core 2 T7200 dual-core and I was wondering if a high I/OWait was normal or what could be done about this problem?
[09:18] <Patero-ng> 1622 people and no one is talking
[09:18] <valroadie> I was thinking the same thing.
[09:19] <valroadie> Not many macbook ubuntu users though I would think hah.
[09:19] <Patero-ng> not many people awake
[09:20] <Patero-ng> isn't macbook suppose to use osx
[09:20] <valroadie> Yes but can be booted with any linux version just as a PC
[09:20] <BlackDalek> is it possible to use dpkg-deb to build a deb file from files already installed?
[09:21] <Sara___> deper still there?
[09:21] <ehscorp> hi all
[09:21] <valroadie> Hello
[09:21] <ehscorp> any idea how to install bin file on ubuntu
[09:23] <Patero-ng> ehscorp did you look for mount iso on the dashboard
[09:23] <deper29> ehscorp: copy the bin to /usr/local/bin
[09:23] <deper29> Sara___: still here
[09:23] <ehscorp> am trying to install timetrex.bin
[09:23] <ehscorp> tried ./timetrex.bin
[09:23] <Sara___> trying it on another computer.
[09:24] <ehscorp> says no such directory or file
[09:24] <ehscorp> but it exist
[09:24] <Sara___> we used make command on build or bin?
[09:24] <Patero-ng> is because is not executablebut isn't the bin a image file
[09:25] <valroadie> Do you use emulators?
[09:25] <ehscorp> nope
[09:26] <ehscorp> nope- Its not an iso
[09:26] <BlackDalek> is it possible to use dpkg-deb to build a deb file from files already installed?
[09:26] <bhavesh> I found all my google chrome saved passwords in "passwords and keys", how do I hide them?
[09:26] <ehscorp> trying to install using terminal
[09:26] <valroadie> Hm...no idea here then. Maybe use chmod +x file.bin ./file.bin
[09:26] <ehscorp> thanks anyways
[09:27] <ehscorp> will keep you all updated if i hit anything
[09:27] <valroadie> Sounds good.
[09:27] <Sara___> core.c /bin/sh: 1: wx-config: not found cc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [obj/Debug/core.o] Error 1 make: *** [wxWabbitemu] Error 2
[09:28] <Sara___> what does it mean?
[09:29] <Sara___> deper29 core.c /bin/sh: 1: wx-config: not found cc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [obj/Debug/core.o] Error 1 make: *** [wxWabbitemu] Error 2
[09:30] <Hapzzz> hello everyone. i run ubuntu in a vm (vbox), and i have dns issues
[09:30] <Hapzzz> ping takes a long while to return a result, yet it says 200ms
[09:30] <Hapzzz> (takes it like 5~10 seconds)
[09:30] <ehscorp> did you try abridged
[09:31] <ehscorp> or host only?
[09:31] <Hapzzz> ehscorp it's currently bridged
[09:31] <Hapzzz> nice guy from #vbox suggested to try ping -n
[09:31] <Hapzzz> which works flawlessly
[09:31] <Hapzzz> and mentioned it's a dns issue.
[09:31] <Hapzzz> i tried replacing nameserver 127.0.0.1 with google's 8.8.8.8 in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:31] <Hapzzz> but it didn't help
[09:32] <ehscorp> look for the file /etc/resolv.conf
[09:32] <ehscorp> this will help you find what the dns its using
[09:32] <Hapzzz> i just said..
[09:32] <lynx7os5> when installing 12.10, it wants to install a boot loader at the screen where you manually pick your partition, there doesnt seem to be a choice to not install a boot loader... anyway around this?
[09:33] <Sara___> anybody here knows what this means?
[09:33] <Sara___> core.c /bin/sh: 1: wx-config: not found cc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [obj/Debug/core.o] Error 1 make: *** [wxWabbitemu] Error 2
[09:33] <Hapzzz> lynx7os5 do you have an OS installed already?
[09:34] <lynx7os5> Hapzzz: yes, two so far
[09:34] <Hapzzz> Sara___ `execvp` doesn't exist?
[09:34] <Hapzzz> lynx7os5 idk then, haven't installed in a while
[09:34] <Hapzzz> specially not with another OS :o
[09:34] <Sara___> cannot find the package Hapzzz
[09:36] <lynx7os5> if i 'do' install this boot loader can i re-install one over it then? or will that mess up ubuntu?
[09:37] <lynx7os5> i think its just try to install the MBR, no?
[09:37] <Hapzzz> lynx7os5 it'll probably create a mess later on
[09:37] <srhb> Hapzzz: Why?
[09:37] <lynx7os5> ugh..
[09:38] <srhb> lynx7os5: Ideally GRUB should realize that you have several OS'es and make sure its setup for each of them.
[09:38] <srhb> lynx7os5: If it doesn't, you'll have to manually adjust it later on.
[09:38] <BlackDalek> is it possible to use dpkg-deb to build a deb file from files already installed?
[09:39] <lynx7os5> srhb: yea the problem, i dont want ubuntu in control of the boot loader on this system :\
[09:39] <lynx7os5> but then i dont want to screw up ubuntu either :p
[09:39] <srhb> lynx7os5: As I recall it, it is possible to tell it not to overwrite the MBR, which should mean your old boot loader will be references
[09:39] <saTTY> somtimes wifi detects my accesspoint sometimes not
[09:40] <Rajvi> Hi all, got a tough problem - Trying to install 12.10 32 bit, installer returns error code-5, I/O error!! I tried everything I know off.I am helpless now :(
[09:40] <srhb> lynx7os5: Otherwise you just need to boot to your other OS and rerun the MBR-staging part of its bootloader.
[09:41] <lynx7os5> srhb: ok, ill give it a go and try that route then..
[09:41] <lynx7os5> thanks guys!
[09:42] <gerryvdm_mbp> is it to be expected that entries in fstab.d/ are not mounted automatically?
[09:43] <deper29> Sara___: it looks like a c-compiler error of a sort
[09:43] <deper29> what are you trying t odo?
[09:43] <Sara___> sudo apt-get install build-essential libwxgtk2.8-dev      forgot to install it
[09:43] <Sara___> thanks deper29
[09:44] <Hapzzz> ok, so first answer in this thread solved it for me. http://askubuntu.com/questions/81797/nslookup-finds-ip-but-ping-doesnt
[09:44] <Rajvi> Please help me!! I am a newbie I guess
[09:45] <srhb> Rajvi: One cause could be defective RAM
[09:45] <srhb> Rajvi: You might want to run a memtest
[09:46] <Rajvi> srhb: the bad news is that previously i was using  lm13 kde, with was just fine, now it does not even boot!
[09:46] <srhb> Rajvi: If it's not RAM, it's probably some disk related hardware error. Either way, IO errors are usually not caused by software.
[09:47] <Rajvi> I used the disk utility to  write zeros
[09:47] <srhb> Rajvi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/245794
[09:48] <srhb> Rajvi: Sound familiar? Might want to look through the responses, most were fixed by removing some RAM blocks.
[09:48] <srhb> Rajvi: Other than that, check your disks for errors.
[09:48] <Rajvi> I feels like after even recreating, deleteing the partions, some datablocks are still stuck
[09:48] <srhb> Rajvi: Yes, that's not the way to go about it.
[09:49] <srhb> Rajvi: You could make one great big partition on the relevant drive and fsck it.
[09:50] <Rajvi> Yeah, that what i m gonna do
[09:50] <srhb> Rajvi: badblocks would also be a good thing to try
[09:50] <srhb> (fsck -c will do that for you)
[09:51] <srhb> Rajvi: Mind, if it does happen to find bad blocks, those will be marked in inodes, so you lose that protection once the partition is rmeoved.
[09:51] <Rajvi> thanks lemme do a memtest fisrt
[09:51] <srhb> Er, filesystem, not partition.
[09:52] <srhb> Rajvi: Also be sure to check your installation media. :)
[09:52] <Rajvi> I have tried to resize partion change to different formats , still i think we have something always in lost+found
[09:53] <Rajvi> The installation mdia is good i tried from a cd, also a usb stick
[09:54] <lee_> how can I pass the password to the  "sudo apt-get install curl"                 myVersion is echo "passworld"|sudo apt-get install curl    ,but it doest work
[09:54] <srhb> lee_: Ouch! Why would you do that?
[09:55] <ehscorp> hi all i guess i found solution
[09:55] <ehscorp> for the bin file execution
[09:55] <ehscorp> sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1
[09:55] <ehscorp> this solves the issue now am able to run a bin file
[09:55] <lee_> srhb, I want to do a alias
[09:56] <srhb> lee_: If you really want to do that, check out the -S option, but be aware that you're doing it wrong. :P
[09:58] <srhb> lee_: What you really want to do is make a script with the setuid bit set, I bet.
[09:58] <srhb> Well, binary really.
[09:59] <lee_> srhb,  yeah
[10:06] <lee_> srhb, it works ;  but when I  use the  git clone https://....    and how can I pass the password?
[10:06] <srhb> lee_: Passing passwords is an ugly security hole, do you really need it? Can't you just prompt for it?
[10:08] <vishal_> Hi All!
[10:08] <notwist> vishal_: heyo
[10:08] <swiftkey> hello there
[10:08] <vishal_> I have been facing a problem with Ubuntu12.04 desktop
[10:08] <swiftkey> me as well
[10:08] <swiftkey> i dont have icons on my desktop
[10:08] <swiftkey> but im able to login
[10:08] <swiftkey> what would be the issue ?
[10:09] <srhb> swiftkey: Isn't that normal?
[10:09] <gratefulfrog> anyone able to help with a wifi problem on the realtek RTL8191SEvA ?
[10:09] <srhb> swiftkey: I don't believe there are any icons on the desktop to begin with.
[10:09] <srhb> gratefulfrog: Maybe, ask your question.
[10:10] <superkuh> Is it possible to use the AMD Catalyst 12.x graphics drivers on Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:10] <vishal_> Earlier when I used to launch terminal, it did not require to source /etc/environment (until the file is updated without resetting my login session) but since last few days this is now required everytime
[10:10] <swiftkey> i mean after upgrade
[10:10] <swiftkey> no panel
[10:10] <gratefulfrog> srhb: I lose thewifi connection during heavy traffic, any ideas how to fix it? Works perfectly when I boot from WIN7
[10:10] <swiftkey> everything
[10:10] <swiftkey> i just recently upgraded from 9 to 12
[10:10] <srhb> swiftkey: Does it appear when you press the super key?
[10:10] <swiftkey> whats the super key ?
[10:11] <snikker> can you help me to boot win xp on the second drive? i'm using grub2 under quantal
[10:11] <Rajvi> I have Error 5 I/0 while installing. I did some toubleshooting memtest disappoints me :( lot of errors. This there a way to correct this!
[10:12] <superkuh> Asking on #ubuntu is like throwing a bottle with a message into the ocean. Only the bottle doesn't have a cap.
[10:12] <vishal_> anyone has the solution?
[10:12] <swiftkey> none for the super key
[10:13] <swiftkey> srhb
[10:13] <Rajvi> srhb: i m back
[10:13] <TeknoJuce> running with no gui, is there a way to input to the console that the person would be standing at remotely so they could watch what you are doing.
[10:13] <srhb> Rajvi: Your have defective RAM.
[10:13] <srhb> swiftkey: Difficult to tell, at least for me since I'm not sure what happens during such a "far" upgrade.
[10:14] <Rajvi> Okay, i agreed any way to fix It just a 2 months old
[10:14] <srhb> swiftkey: You're sure unity is selected in the login panel?
[10:14] <srhb> Rajvi: Sure, yell at whoever sold it to you to fix it. :)
[10:14] <lynx7os5> heheh, purging grub :p
[10:15] <Rajvi> Heheh Thanks bro !! Do u think windows would still install on it. I m asking what the stupid technicians would do is to install windows
[10:16] <TeknoJuce> is there any way to connect to the consoles tty so the user sitting at it can see what you are typing  if you want to show them something
[10:16] <srhb> Rajvi: You should not rely on a computer with defective RAM for anything, you risk corrupting all your data.
[10:16] <vekonja> can someone help me with http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17855
[10:16] <srhb> Rajvi: If you have more than one block, you can try removing one of them and check if the other is fine with memtest
[10:17] <Rajvi> Yeah i have two blocks lemme remove one
[10:17] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Try reading from one of the tty devices
[10:17] <TeknoJuce> ?
[10:18] <Rajvi> Thanks for ur help. I work for Intuit/Quicken. If anyone u r family etc needs help shout at me
[10:18] <srhb> TeknoJuce: The command tty will give you the terminal device
[10:18] <srhb> Rajvi: Good luck
[10:18] <vishal_> is any one having solution to my problem -
[10:18] <vishal_> Earlier when I used to launch terminal, it did not require to source /etc/environment (until the file is updated without resetting my login session) but since last few days this is now required everytime
[10:18] <srhb> TeknoJuce: You can read from that to see what is being typed
[10:18] <TeknoJuce> I want to input into it
[10:19] <srhb> TeknoJuce: You can do that, too.
[10:19] <TeknoJuce> so the person at the console can see what I am remotly typing
[10:19] <lynx7os5> aptitude search grub, can someone tell me what the 'pi' down the left means please?
[10:19] <oglebogle> 
[10:19] <oglebogle> ggg
[10:19] <srhb> TeknoJuce: echo "This is the right command" > /dev/pts/0 -- if pts0 is the one tty output on the remote side
[10:19] <lynx7os5> er wait a sec..
[10:21] <lynx7os5> ah, got it, man pages :S
[10:21] <swiftkey> hold on
[10:21] <swiftkey> what does unity means ?
[10:21] <vishal_> is any one having solution to my problem -  Earlier when I used to launch terminal, it did not require to source /etc/environment (until the file is updated without resetting my login session) but since last few days this is now required everytime
[10:21] <swiftkey> where can i see that ?
[10:21] <swiftkey> im just a regular user
[10:21] <lynx7os5> idk
[10:21] <saTTY> nothing unity
[10:21] <swiftkey> after upgrade
[10:21] <swiftkey> no panels
[10:21] <swiftkey> no right click
[10:21] <saTTY> androirc : sounds male
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[10:23] <gratefulfrog> anyone know how to setup wicd?
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[10:25] <TeknoJuce> thanks srhb how would you find out if that was the correct pts besides being at the physical terminal
[10:25] <TeknoJuce> as when I did that it just echo'd it in my ssh session
[10:26] <srhb> TeknoJuce: I wouldn't
[10:26] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Ask the person you're helping to run tty. :)
[10:27] <TeknoJuce> well should I be seening the echo myself?
[10:27] <srhb> TeknoJuce: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[10:28] <TeknoJuce> I am logged onto the server via putty the user currently isnt at the terminal just wanted to get this figured out before I show them something
[10:29] <TeknoJuce> when I ran you command it just echo'd it back to me
[10:29] <srhb> TeknoJuce: use w
[10:29] <TeknoJuce> I would personally expect it to show nothing
[10:29] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Yes, sounds like you were redirecting to your own terminal
[10:30] <TeknoJuce> so if pts0 is my terminal how would I find the other terminals? is there like an lspts or something
[10:30] <srhb> TeknoJuce: w
[10:30] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Shows you logged in users and their ttys
[10:30] <lee_> srhb, you're right.  And I found a solution   git clone https://username:password@hostname/username/projectname        it works
[10:31] <TeknoJuce> ah srhb nobody is logged on as I rebooted the machine :/
[10:31] <TeknoJuce> so guess I wont be able to figure this one out
[10:31] <srhb> TeknoJuce: You want to send to a terminal that doesn't exist... No, you can't figure that one out. :P
[10:32] <TeknoJuce> thanks for the nfo srhb
[10:32] <srhb> TeknoJuce: You're welcome.
[10:33] <srhb> lee_: Ideally you'd use the ssh protocol to grab the clone and have your key stored on the server so no password is required.
[10:33] <srhb> lee_: You can also look up credential helper
[10:34] <srhb> lee_: man gitcredentials
[10:34] <Gyro54> Hi!
[10:35] <TeknoJuce> is there a comman/way to force the local console pty to login remotely?
[10:35] <TeknoJuce> s/comman/command
[10:36] <ubuntu_girl> hello room, can ne1 help me , i cannot adjust brigtness on laptop , ubuntu 10.04
[10:36] <Gyro54> I have a 12.04 computer which locks up while streaming music on Firefox? Does this nearly every day?
[10:36] <ubuntu_girl> cannot adjust brigtness on laptop , ubuntu 10.04 , "cannot get laptop panel brightness"
[10:38] <solancer> ubuntu_girl: lol
[10:38] <solancer> "ubuntu_girl: lol"
[10:38] <solancer> "ubuntu_girl: lol"
[10:38] <ubuntu_girl> solancer whats so funny?
[10:38] <MeanEYE> Anyone knows how I can get charge % for my UPS from command line?
[10:38] <ubuntu_girl> cannot adjust brigtness on laptop , ubuntu 10.04 , "cannot get laptop panel brightness"?
[10:40] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl: use function keys?
[10:40] <solancer> ubuntu_girl: lol
[10:41] <ubuntu_girl> function keys don't work for bringtness solancer
[10:41] <ubuntu_girl> and stop laughing at me :)
[10:41] <srhb> TeknoJuce: No easy way no, since the processes would be tied to the terminal you open, including the shell process
[10:41] <TeknoJuce> ok thanks -last ditch effort ;)
[10:42] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Wait for your user to login before offering to help. :)
[10:42] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl: this is just the applet hey?
[10:42] <yhusha> ok so after doing some brute forcing all of a sudden the wifi wont work tried ifconfig wla0 down/up the signal connects to the router and it shows connected but no browsers work 3 of them ever come across such a thing
[10:42] <ubuntu_girl> sgtjoykiller applet also not working if i click slider nothig happens
[10:43] <ubuntu_girl> it says cannot get laptop panel brightness
[10:43] <ubuntu_girl> i am googling it for past half hour
[10:43] <yhusha> ?
[10:43] <ubuntu_girl> and feeling a headache due to increased brightness
[10:43] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl: jst ajusst in power managment
[10:43] <ubuntu_girl> 10.04 it is not present in power management
[10:44] <srhb> ubuntu_girl: The problem is laptop specific, you'd probably get better results by asking in Ubuntu Answers with the specific model.
[10:44] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/597745
[10:44] <ubuntu_girl> srhb ubuntu Answers? u mean askubuntu.com
[10:45] <srhb> ubuntu_girl: Sorry, I meant this one: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:45] <ubuntu_girl> $ cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[10:45] <ubuntu_girl> cat: /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness: No such file or directory   sgtjoykiller
[10:46] <yhusha> is there some sort of defense that anybodies aware of that zaps browsers
[10:46] <ubuntu_girl> OMG my eyes will pop out,better go on windows for this
[10:48] <TeknoJuce> if I have no gui installed how do I findout what resolution the terminal is running at?
[10:48] <rhumbot> hi all, im trying to run a jnlp file on ubuntu 12.10. whenever i tell him to open with firefox it asks again what program should be used to open it?
[10:48] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl: see http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/920450
[10:48] <ubuntu_girl> thanks sgtjoykiller let me check
[10:49] <ubuntu_girl> sgtjoykiller no info on this link :(
[10:52] <srhb> ubuntu_girl: You're probably short a kernel module, better go to the link I directed you to in order to solve your problem.
[10:54] <srhb> TeknoJuce: The console?
[10:55] <ubuntu_girl> thxnk srhb i have added question there https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/217063
[10:56] <TeknoJuce> I have a vga to tv device hooked up to the videocard out putting to the tv, I wasnt getting anything on it so I was wonder if the res when it boots up was too high
[10:56] <srhb> TeknoJuce: You might want to check with the fbset tool. fbset -i I think
[10:56] <TeknoJuce> the max res the device supports is 1024x768
[10:57] <TeknoJuce> though the tv might not support that high as well
[10:57] <TeknoJuce> so maybe 640x480 or 800x600
[10:59] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Set it in /etc/default/grub if you're running a recent Ubuntu.
[11:00] <sgtjoykiller> ubuntu_girl:  see hear http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2877962
[11:01] <TeknoJuce> srhb is there a way to show what the current res is set to
[11:01] <TeknoJuce> for grub
[11:02] <TeknoJuce> that file has a command in it to set it but its commented out
[11:02] <msh> Hi every body . How I can update ubuntu 12.04?
[11:02] <TeknoJuce> so just wondering what its currently set to
[11:02] <srhb> TeknoJuce: No, but you can do something like hwinfo --framebuffer
[11:04] <TeknoJuce>  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
[11:05] <TeknoJuce> guessing it would say the res where active is?
[11:05] <srhb> TeknoJuce: Yes, I would have thought so as well
[11:06] <msh> I am ne to ubuntu 12.04 how can i update ?
[11:06] <TeknoJuce> oh well I will just force it down to 640x480 and see what happens
[11:06] <TeknoJuce> in the grub file
[11:07] <TeknoJuce> #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[11:07] <Noriandir> hi. I'm having a problem with adding a new resolution to my screen (that is incorrectly detected as 1024x768)
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[11:09] <DJones> Andrzej: THis is a suport channel, not a dating channel
[11:09] <Andrzej> To chuj Ci w dupe
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[11:10] <Andrzej> Tak
[11:10] <Error404NotFound> Besides ssh what other options do i have to tunnel couple of ports from my local machine to a server available via static live ip?
[11:10] <rootbot> hi all
[11:11] <srhb> Error404NotFound: ssh is a nice lightweight solution, for more robustness you could go full-fledged VPN
[11:11] <Error404NotFound> hmm
[11:11] <sgtjoykiller> Error404NotFound: various VPN prots
[11:14] <fr4w4> Hello bro
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:17] <JustSomeGuy> hi im using ubuntu 12.04 and cant shutdown when i run /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown i get the dialog and can press shutdown/reboot but i just land back at lightdm where i also cant reboot/shutdown (which worked before i logged in)
[11:17] <JustSomeGuy> when i run sudo reboot in the terminal everything works fine and ubuntu reboot the computer
[11:18] <BluesKaj> JustSomeGuy, try sudo halt
[11:18] <sgtjoykiller> sudo shutdown now?
[11:18] <JustSomeGuy> BluesKaj, yeah that works fine too i just cant reboot with the normal applet that comes with unity
[11:19] <srhb> JustSomeGuy: I experienced this with the ATI driver, didn't find a fix.
[11:19] <Error404NotFound> autossh ftw. Keeping tunnels up and running. Found it just when i was about to write a custom script.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> JustSomeGuy, can't help there , I'm a KDE guy
[11:19] <JustSomeGuy> srhb, hmh im using the buildin intel gpu :/
[11:20] <srhb> Error404NotFound: Heh thanks, I might use that as well instead of my custom scripts.
[11:21] <Error404NotFound> srhb: you're welcome
[11:22] <lolcat> How can I install ALL the packages?
[11:23] <sgtjoykiller> lolcat: what packages?
[11:23] <srhb> lolcat: You can't. And you shouldn't.
[11:23] <lolcat> I tried doing apt-get install e*
[11:23] <srhb> lolcat: Several packages are mutually exclusive.
[11:23] <lolcat> but it says there are conflicts
[11:23] <srhb> lolcat: Yes.
[11:23] <lolcat> Can I do --force or something?
[11:23] <srhb> lolcat: Don't do that. :P
[11:24] <srhb> lolcat: No.
[11:24] <srhb> lolcat: It would break your system.
[11:25] <JustSomeGuy> lolcat, why would you like to do that?
[11:25] <lolcat> So that I have everything I need
[11:25] <rollitup> I am using a dual boot desktop Win 7 & Ubuntu 12.04 , Today i mistakingly hit the software update button in Ubuntu, the update crashed abruptly so I had to reboot the desktop but after rebooting i get this error error:  no such partition grub rescue>
[11:25] <sgtjoykiller> lolcat: oh ALL as in ALL...... u would start running into conflicts pretty soon i shot think
[11:25] <rollitup> someone suggested to do a Grub reinstall
[11:25] <srhb> lolcat: Install all the things you need instead :P
[11:25] <rollitup> so i prepared a Live USB stick
[11:26] <rollitup> booted using the Live stick and now dunnow how to go forward
[11:26] <rollitup> any tips
[11:26] <JustSomeGuy> lolcat, just install the the software you need and the package manager will take care of the rest (installing dependencies etc.)
[11:26] <rollitup> I hope i can get my desktop in just the way it was working prior to this update
[11:31] <sgtjoykiller> rollitup: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[11:33] <rollitup> thanks sgtjoykiller
[11:34] <sgtjoykiller> rollitup: np.... remember google is your friend
[11:34] <rollitup> yes true, but i fear that in the process i really don't want to go into reinstalling windows 7 again
[11:37] <libpenguin> how to see installed packages on system ?
[11:38] <sgtjoykiller> libpenguin: dpkg -l
[11:38] <srhb> libpenguin: dpkg --get-selections
[11:42] <Guest40432> hi guys, i have a configured pppoe connection on a pc with ubuntu 10.10 on it, but it wont connect... it says never connected... i have 3 network adapters in the pc, all configured in some sort of way, the connection should use eth2... should i put that adapter on DHCP?
[11:42] <Guest40432> how can i do that? i have only ssh access to the pc, no monitor on it, no keyboard no mouse...
[11:45] <gaoyaodi> 哈哈哈哈
[11:46] <sgtjoykiller> Guest40432: u can set to use DHCP by editing in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:46] <BluesKaj> !cn | gaoyaodi
[11:47] <gaoyaodi> 谢谢
[11:47] <srhb> Interestingly, if you _could_ install all packages in Quantal, it would only take up a bit less than 150GB
[11:47] <BlackDalek> I want to copy everything from computer1@192.168.1.15:/usr/share to computer2 (this computer) /usr/share using scp... what is the correct syntax to copy everything including subdirectories but skipping existing files?
[11:50] <srhb> BlackDalek: Use rsync and --ignore-existing
[11:51] <BluesKaj> sounds contradictory
[11:51] <srhb> BluesKaj: Why?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> copy everything , but skip existing files ?
[11:51] <srhb> BluesKaj: Well, it could have been worded better. "copy all files that do not exist on the receiving end" :P
[11:52] <srhb> Still it was semantically correct.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> srhb, ok , I suspected that , but one can never be sure
[11:52] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: i've set it to dhcp, runned command :sudo ifdown eth0
[11:53] <BluesKaj> semantically coorect is a contradiction in terms as well :)
[11:53] <BlackDalek> srhb, "rsync --ignore-existing computer1@192.168.1.15:/usr/share/* /usr/share/" <-- does that look correct?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> correct that is
[11:53] <srhb> BluesKaj: Oh, is it?
[11:53] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: now im restarting the pc, hopefully it will start to connect over pppoe
[11:53] <dr_willis> i need to learn rsync more.  i have 2 hard drives with a video collection, one is a backup. i need to figure out a nice way to be sure changes to the 'master' get applied to the copy.
[11:53] <srhb> BlackDalek: I think you'll need some more options on there to be sure.
[11:54] <srhb> BlackDalek: At the very least for recursion.
[11:54] <sgtjoykiller> Guest40432: no need to restart, jst bring it back up "sudo ifup eth0"
[11:54] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: if there is a DSL connection pppoe and eth2 is set now to dhp, it should work, right?
[11:54] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: i had to restart it cause it cuted off the connection with ssh
[11:54] <BlackDalek> srhb, "rsync -r --ignore-existing computer1@192.168.1.15:/usr/share/* /usr/share/" <-- how about that?
[11:55] <BlackDalek> would that work?
[11:55] <srhb> BlackDalek: Probably getting close. You're not going to get me to take responsibility for a command without you reading the manual page. :)
[11:55] <srhb> BlackDalek: I think you'd rather use the path /usr/share on both sides though, without the asterisk
[11:55] <BlackDalek> the manual confuses me :)
[11:56] <BlackDalek> ah ok
[11:56] <srhb> BlackDalek: At least read the options that you're putting on and see if that feels correct to you.
[11:56] <srhb> BlackDalek: And try a dry run with -n first
[11:57] <BlackDalek> Sometimes, the options aren't immediately obvious even after reading... especially if I am not familiar with all the terminology used
[11:57] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: it looks like it didnt connected to internet
[11:57] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: im wondering why..
[11:57] <srhb> BlackDalek: Then I guess you can cross your fingers and hope you don't hose your system because of some idiot on the internet giving you wrong advice. :-) Do a backup!
[11:58] <sgtjoykiller> Guest40432: did your provider give u a static ip to use when configoring?
[11:58] <BlackDalek> srhb, the source computer IS the backup... the destination is not so important as it is fresh/clean install
[11:58] <Guest40432> sgtjoykiller: they told us that we will have a static ip, but via dhcp, probably static dhcp
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Guest40432, do you have network manager installed on the ssh'd pc ?
[11:59] <Guest40432> BluesKaj: yes, i do have
[11:59] <BlackDalek> srhb, so if the system is destroyed by following wrong advice, it's no big problem ;)
[11:59] <srhb> BlackDalek: Follow my possibly wrong advice then :-)
[12:00] <ktf> Hi All, i have a server which had redhat installed (and working), I wiped it, and installed ubuntu 12.04, but now the network is not working correctly.... the eth0 interface is there and configured, but when I tcpdump on eth0, I can ONLY see broadcast traffic (i.e. STP from the switches), ping to/from the box does not work.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Guest40432, network manager has to be setup to a static IP afaik , altho I haven't used it in yrs
[12:00] <srhb> BlackDalek: You could probably get away with the -a option to preserve ownership as well, but I think that's unimportant for /usr/share
[12:01] <BlackDalek> srhb, it says -a is for "archive" though...
[12:01] <sgtjoykiller> BlueEagle: he wants 2 use DHCP
[12:02] <srhb> BlackDalek: Right, which just preserves a lot of thing. I found out my advice was wrong, by the way
[12:02] <srhb> BlackDalek: You need the trailing slash on the source, but not the destination. (That always confuses me)
[12:02] <Guest40432> BluesKaj: im going to the place where this pc is
[12:02] <srhb> BlackDalek: (otherwise you would get /usr/share/share)
[12:03] <Guest40432> i will be back from there to further instructions guys, i need to make this to work
[12:03] <Guest40432> be right back
[12:03] <sgtjoykiller> Guest40432: can i c your /etc/network/interfaces please
[12:03] <BlackDalek> srhb, ah ok - that is probably where I went wrong last time... Last time I tried, I ended up copying over 400Gb of data from a 120Gb disk...
[12:06] <MrWibbles> for software developers, if they have ubuntu set up with all of their core libraries etc.. do they need root access to their machine or not?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> sgtjoykiller,then network manager could be a problem , might be better of with setting up /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head , and removing neywork manager , and let the interfaces file set up his internet connection
[12:07] <cornfeed> does anyone know what package owns vbeinfo
[12:08] <cornfeed> the livecd seems to have vbetool, but that does not seem to be what I am looking for
[12:08] <Martin_> cornfeed: $ dpkg-query -S vbeinfo
[12:09] <Martin_> no sorry, it's not what you want.
[12:09] <notwist> MrWibbles: depends entirely on what they are supposed to do with the machine
[12:09] <cornfeed> yeah that searches for package names
[12:09] <srhb> Martin_: You are probably thinking of apt-fie
[12:10] <srhb> Martin_: apt-file*
[12:10] <notwist> MrWibbles: they should be able to write/read their own files and compile without root, so they don't need root for something like that
[12:10] <Martin_> srhb: yes apt-file
[12:10] <cornfeed> but if you have a command that reverses figures out a binary to the package that owns it, i need to know this commang
[12:10] <cornfeed> command*
[12:10] <MrWibbles> notwist:run ruby, install ruby gems, run unit tests, develop code, test code, test code in the browser
[12:10] <cornfeed> i will check it out, thanks!
[12:10] <MrWibbles> nottwist:i've got one developer being adamant they need root.. but i can't see where
[12:11] <cornfeed> Martin_: soo...which package owns apt-file :-[
[12:11] <sgtjoykiller> BluesKaj: i dont think this is nesercry at this point
[12:11] <cornfeed> :-p*
[12:11] <srhb> cornfeed: apt-file
[12:11] <notwist> MrWibbles: im not sure if ruby gems are installed in the userspace, but if they are no root is required
[12:11] <cornfeed> yeah the live cd does not contain that binary
[12:11] <cornfeed> srhb: ^
[12:11] <MrWibbles> they are installed in ruby space
[12:11] <notwist> MrWibbles: if you don't give developers root you (or someone with root) should be available to install stuff for them when they need it
[12:12] <Martin_> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[12:12] <srhb> cornfeed: No, but it's in the packages online. :)
[12:12] <notwist> MrWibbles: otherwise the work might stall completely
[12:12] <MrWibbles> yeah exactly
[12:12] <cornfeed> Martin_: yeah i just tried that
[12:12] <cornfeed> hmm brb
[12:12] <MrWibbles> senior developers
[12:12] <MrWibbles> can install software
[12:12] <notwist> MrWibbles: if someone is around to approve installation of new software, giving root to everyone is a bad idea, it should be approved first
[12:12] <Hamten> Hi all
[12:12] <bhavesh> You can create a desktop shortcut by dragging apps from unity menu but when I am using GNOME shell, how do I create desktop shortcuts?
[12:12] <MrWibbles> nottwist: excellent
[12:12] <notwist> MrWibbles: so give someone who has a clue what they are doing root access and let everyone else go through that person
[12:12] <Martin_> cornfeed: anyway $ apt-file search vbeinfo returns nothing
[12:13] <notwist> MrWibbles: that way you also have one person responsible if everything burns up
[12:13] <Hamten> How to add chinese surpport in debianm
[12:13] <MrWibbles> notwist:i love it
[12:13] <MrWibbles> it's good, we had the developers run havok with the production servers
[12:13] <MrWibbles> so we had to remove their access
[12:13] <MrWibbles> and now i'm wondering if it's a good idea on their own machines
[12:13] <MrWibbles> then we can also automate updates and backups
[12:14] <notwist> MrWibbles: developers should develop in their userspace with the tools they are given, if they need other tools they should request them
[12:14] <sgtjoykiller> Guest40432: g2g bbl see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[12:14] <sgtjoykiller> cya guys
[12:14] <notwist> MrWibbles: well, you can do _a lot_ in Linux without root acces... so it's usually better to think by default that people shouldn't have it until they can prove otherwise
[12:15] <bhavesh> How do you create desktop shortcuts (icons) on gnome shell in Ubuntu 12.10?
[12:15] <srhb> notwist, MrWibbles: It strikes me that it should not be impossible to restrict to passwordless apt-get install'ing
[12:15] <notwist> MrWibbles: you have to understand though that from a security point of view you can never make sure someone doesnt have root if they have physical access
[12:16] <MrWibbles> notwist:yeah.. i think you can
[12:16] <MrWibbles> full disk encryption
[12:16] <MrWibbles> TPM chip and checksums
[12:16] <MrWibbles> unless they can root the box
[12:16] <MrWibbles> using some known exploit
[12:17] <Martin_> cornfeed: vbeinfo is a GRUB command
[12:19] <notwist> MrWibbles: what does full disk encryption have to do with anything
[12:19] <notwist> MrWibbles: if you dont give them the key they cant use the computer
[12:19] <MrWibbles> means you can't take the hdd
[12:19] <MrWibbles> and mount it
[12:19] <notwist> So how are they supposed to work?
[12:19] <MrWibbles> with external tools
[12:19] <MrWibbles> the TPM chip stores the encryption key
[12:20] <MrWibbles> so they can boot the machine up
[12:20] <notwist> And the TPM chip isn't readable if you boot from USB for example?
[12:20] <MrWibbles> nah.. it's never readable
[12:20] <notwist> If the computer can decrypt the drive on startup, why can't a secondary OS decrypt it if you have physical access?
[12:21] <MrWibbles> because you've locked all that down in the bios
[12:21] <designerh> hello every body!
[12:21] <MrWibbles> and you can't add additional devices
[12:21] <notwist> MrWibbles: the bios can be reset if you have physical access to the device
[12:21] <Eagleman> Resetting my password fails in mysql:  http://pastebin.com/MmtzprbC
[12:21] <designerh> have a good day
[12:21] <MrWibbles> notwist:then the compute rwon't boot
[12:22] <MrWibbles> because then the PCR registers will be different
[12:22] <designerh> i have a problem with Ubuntu 12-10
[12:23] <cornfeed> Martin_: yeah my livecd was not using apt properly or something. i ended up with the same no result too in the end...thanks for the help though
[12:23] <notwist> MrWibbles: im just saying, I still cant see how it's technically impossible for another OS to spoof the drive into thinking that it's a normal boot
[12:23] <designerh> when i am clicked on dash home commuter hanged up
[12:24] <notwist> MrWibbles: if you can get read/write access to the drive in any way, which you need to use it at all, you can exploit it
[12:24] <MrWibbles> you can't write to it
[12:24] <MrWibbles> ok.. so you turn the computer on
[12:24] <notwist> MrWibbles: you can't write anything to it period?
[12:24] <MrWibbles> you can... but it's all encyrpted
[12:24] <MrWibbles> so if you write anything
[12:24] <designerh> pleas any solve to this problem
[12:24] <MrWibbles> you'll screw it up
[12:24] <MrWibbles> the TCM decrypts and runs the tools
[12:24] <FloodBot1> MrWibbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <designerh> pleas any solve to this problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:25] <MrWibbles> the tools then checks the registeres on the bios to see if anything has changes.. if anything has changed.. it doesn't decrypt and boot the drive
[12:25] <notwist> MrWibbles: look, I realize it's encrypted, I'm not completely lost here. What I'm saying is that I don't see how it's impossible for a third party OS (custom Linux or whatever) to play the role of a normal boot sequence and get access to the drive that way, like a normal input/output sequence that would happen when you boot it
[12:26] <MrWibbles> for you to boot, you have to have two things.. 1. you need the TCM chip  and 2. you need to know the exact configuration of everything in the bios including the bios password
[12:26] <MrWibbles> if you don't have either of those... you can't decrypt the drive.
[12:26] <notwist> MrWibbles: Ok, so why is it impossible for another device to 1) read the BIOS contents 2) use this to decrypt the drive 3) do whatever
[12:27] <MrWibbles> notwist: because the TPM chips have been specifically designed so that you can't
[12:27] <designerh> pleas  ,when i am clicked on dash home commuter hanged up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:27] <notwist> designerh: and if you restart it?
[12:28] <designerh> what can  i do to solve ?
[12:28] <notwist> MrWibbles: fine, I freely admit I don't know enough about how it works but I have a hard time understanding why [BIOS] - [HDD] cant be interrupted like [BIOS] - [Malicious device] - [HDD]
[12:28] <notwist> designerh: you can start by actually describing your problem. if you computer just hangs, try restarting it. does it hang again?
[12:29] <marsfligth> Why Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit after xx mins blank screen even if has been set to stay always on? It does the same on another my Computer with the same OS. Thanks
[12:29] <designerh> yes, when i clicked on dash home
[12:29] <MrWibbles> notwist: yeah i don't understand either.. i'm in the investigation stage.. this is how somoene i know is trying to make military computers secure from state attacks
[12:30] <MrWibbles> notwist: also we are going to lock the computers into cages under the desk
[12:30] <notwist> MrWibbles: the only thing I know is that when you get down to the physical defense of your data the only thing that makes it harder (but not impossible) is basically gluing everything so you cant interrupt signals anywhere
[12:31] <notwist> MrWibbles: how come you trust your developers so little by the way :)
[12:31] <notwist> designerh: backup all your stuff, reinstall ubuntu. will save you a load of time
[12:31] <notwist> designerh: if you've done sane partitioning you don't even have to backup stuff since /home/ should be a separate partition
[12:31] <MrWibbles> notwist: in china.. it's quite common for software/other research to be stolen by other companies for the purposes of a) stealing b)sabotaging
[12:32] <MrWibbles> and one of those ways is by sending developers in
[12:32] <MrWibbles> also .. this shit is fun :D
[12:32] <notwist> MrWibbles: I see, that sucks. Well, in that case, you def. should restrict root access :) dont forget to modify permissions so that reading other peoples files isnt possible either
[12:32] <MrWibbles> we're actually mainly doing it, because we have to give our clients machines with full copies of our software on it
[12:32] <MrWibbles> and running... thats the main reason
[12:33] <notwist> MrWibbles: so, they don't have internet access?
[12:33] <MrWibbles> so we won't even have the devices in our possesion
[12:33] <MrWibbles> notwist: 80 and 443
[12:33] <GrubTrouble> Hello, can someone tell me please how to hide a partition in the grub entries when booting?, I already tried google, tried chmod -x on the file in the grub.d, tried to comment lines in the grub.cfg, always update-grub after making changes, and no results
[12:33] <notwist> MrWibbles: well, how are you going to prevent leaks
[12:33] <MrWibbles> and that goes to a VPN we run
[12:33] <notwist> MrWibbles: you can SSH out from 443
[12:33] <MrWibbles> nah.. easy to detect
[12:33] <MrWibbles> you'd need some shit to cloak it.. maybe something like openvpn
[12:34] <notwist> cloak what? that its SSH traffic?
[12:34] <MrWibbles> yeah.. you can detect it
[12:34] <MrWibbles> and openvpn would require root access on the machine
[12:34] <notwist> i saw some software posted just today on reddit where you can have a host answer on 443 and act as a webserver while still allowing ssh on the same port
[12:35] <MrWibbles> interesting
[12:35] <notwist> you can also tunnel SSH over HTTPS: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/ssh-http-tunneling/
[12:35] <MrWibbles> our current vpn has to do all sorts of crazy stuff
[12:35] <MrWibbles> ohhh
[12:35] <MrWibbles> now that is intersting
[12:35] <notwist> so if you would do that, i suppose leaking your software could be done
[12:36] <MrWibbles> aweesooome
[12:36] <MrWibbles> bunch of these protections + alarms
[12:36] <MrWibbles> .. what's the chance they are going to get through on their first try :)
[12:36] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble: what partitiin?
[12:37] <MrWibbles> notwist: i bookmarked that shit.. is awesome :D
[12:37] <notwist> depending on the size of your software i think one of the first alarms i would set is for bandwidth usage
[12:37] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  we work with an operating system for disabled people
[12:37] <GrubTrouble> called f123
[12:37] <MrWibbles> notwist: yeah we thought of that.. just for uploads
[12:37] <GrubTrouble> we need to hide it because we give pendrives with many solutions and we need to hide this
[12:37] <notwist> GrubTrouble: I would say dont run update-grub. You can update the grub config manually instead (scripts)
[12:37] <MrWibbles> yeah.. also
[12:38] <df_> hello everyone! I've just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and really enjoying it, but still experiencing some problems. Firstly, why I can't access to /media/username now? Because it's owned by root/root with 750 permission, but why I had fully access earlier?
[12:38] <MrWibbles> they wouldn't be able to run any command line stuff
[12:38] <MrWibbles> because we'd have logs
[12:38] <BlessJah> hi, i've got BearPaw 2448 CU Pro  scanner that isn't supported by sane, is there any way to get it working under ubuntu?
[12:38] <MrWibbles> so they'd have to do it all from within a web-browser
[12:38] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  do u have these scripts
[12:38] <notwist> MrWibbles: well depending on if they care about staying the next day or not and how often you check the logs, it might not matter :p
[12:38] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  im not programmer,thats my problem
[12:38] <notwist> GrubTrouble: lol no, hire someone who can make them
[12:38] <MrWibbles> notwsit: true. yeah
[12:38] <MrWibbles> we'll have to think about it
[12:38] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble: so what  fileststem is this os using?
[12:38] <MrWibbles> but them not having root is a damn good start
[12:39] <notwist> MrWibbles: haha, yeah id say
[12:39] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  ext4
[12:39] <notwist> MrWibbles: you might even want to consider a completely offline environment to avoid leaks
[12:39] <notwist> MrWibbles: because if you
[12:39] <notwist> 're online, you can send whatever you wasnt
[12:39] <MrWibbles> nah can't do that
[12:39] <MrWibbles> hit's productivity way too much
[12:39] <MrWibbles> they need the internet
[12:39] <notwist> MrWibbles: well all of it doesnt need to be online. again, senior dev can have access, all other devs go through that one
[12:39] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble: so its seeign the ext4 and a  linux kernel?
[12:40] <MrWibbles> notwist: good point
[12:40] <MrWibbles> do junior devs need internet....
[12:40] <notwist> MrWibbles: if they need documentation, they can get it from him, etc
[12:40] <MrWibbles> notwist: all the docs will be on their computers
[12:40] <notwist> MrWibbles: if its high security stuff, offline environments are standard
[12:40] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  the current im using 3.2.0-31-generic, the one of the system i want to hide 2.6.x
[12:40] <vila> hi all !
[12:40] <notwist> MrWibbles: dont forget to glue the USB ports, good luck ;)
[12:40] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  they are on the same pendrive
[12:40] <MrWibbles> notwist: disable in bios
[12:40] <notwist> vila: hey
[12:41] <notwist> MrWibbles: doesnt hurt to be redundant
[12:41] <vila> after upgrading my precise desktop this morning (new kernel 3.2.0-35), I lost network connectivity :-/
[12:41] <MrWibbles> notwist: yeah.. but i might want them
[12:41] <MrWibbles> haha
[12:41] <notwist> MrWibbles: you can always install extra usb ports later
[12:41] <nori1> hi guys,
[12:41] <vila> I restored eth0 with ifdown/ifup (!!) but still lack dns. Does that ring any bell ?
[12:41] <MrWibbles> bios switch off is good enough
[12:41] <nori1> im back with my pppoe and eth2 problem
[12:41] <MrWibbles> if they reset bios.. they can't do anything anyway
[12:42] <vila> I also tried reverting to 3.2.0.-33 which properly configure eth0 but the dns issue is still there
[12:43] <GrubTrouble> vila: u edited resolv.conf,right?, how u get connected?
[12:43] <notwist> vila: try setting DNS manually
[12:43] <notwist> vila: google is great and has 8.8.8.8
[12:43] <vila> GrubTrouble: I touched nothing, just update, reboot
[12:43] <GrubTrouble> vila,  nano /etc/resolv.conf and add your dns
[12:44] <GrubTrouble> provided by ur ISP vila
[12:44] <notwist> GrubTrouble vila honestly id recommend googles dns first of all, isp dnses can be down
[12:44] <vila> I get the dns from dhcp which is working fine from *this* desktop (which is also running precise and 3.2.0-35 8-/)
[12:45] <notwist> GrubTrouble vila if it works with Googles DNS manually and not with automatic DNS config, somethings wrong with the auto dns fetching so atleast you know that
[12:45] <GrubTrouble> vila:  well, something isnt working, setting ur dns in the resolv wont make u problems, but maybe try to set the default gateway so, and dhclient or dhcpd
[12:45] <GrubTrouble> if u refuse to add them
[12:46] <GrubTrouble> well,someone can help me with grub please?,yesterday i tried from 9:30 till 17:30 and couldnt get it working
[12:46] <vila> GrubTrouble: setting 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' in resolv.conf is not better
[12:47] <notwist> GrubTrouble: please explain why you necessarily NEED to run grub updates to begin with
[12:47] <notwist> vila: I wrote that to you, not GrubTrouble
[12:47] <vila> notwist: gha, sorry ;-/
[12:47] <GrubTrouble> vila:  8.8.8.8 no
[12:47] <GrubTrouble> vila: ur dns provided by ur isp
[12:47] <notwist> vila: what do you mean its "not better"? also, try pinging ip-adresses
[12:47] <notwist> 173.194.67.100 should be Google
[12:47] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  because google manuals says it
[12:48] <notwist> GrubTrouble: say what?
[12:48] <vila> ping'ing ip on my lan works (even .local works)
[12:48] <GrubTrouble> vila: just leave two lines nameserver firstdnsnumber
[12:48] <GrubTrouble> and nameserver secondnds
[12:48] <notwist> vila: and pinging external ips? if that doesnt work, its not a dns problem
[12:48] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  that after editing or making changes y must update-grub
[12:48] <GrubTrouble> otherwise changes wont be saved
[12:48] <BlessJah> anyone willing to help with unsupported by sane mustek bearpaw 2448 cu pro?
[12:48] <GrubTrouble> I also tried without saving and no difference notwist
[12:49] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  i downloaded grub-customizor but it seems new version cant hide partitions like the olds did
[12:49] <notwist> ok.. well im not familiar with hiding partitions in grub, sorry
[12:49] <kpm> hello
[12:49] <vila> wow, can't ping outside my network ! Wth ? Never saw that...
[12:49] <kpm> i nee a tool that i can split a subtitle from a movie
[12:49] <notwist> vila: so its a routing problem. gl hf :P
[12:49] <kpm> a CLI too
[12:49] <kpm> tool
[12:49]  * vila tries to reboot the router
[12:50] <Peanut> Hi folks - when I boot my machine, I get the graphical login, but after entering username/password, I get a black screen for a few seconds, then I'm back at the login prompt. I have plenty of diskspace, can log in fine over the VTs, where to look?
[12:50] <vila> naaah, pinging external ips works from *this* desktop so the router is ok
[12:50] <GrubTrouble> vila http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6236/dns1m.jpg here an example,just sustitute these numbers for ur own dns
[12:51] <dr_willis> kpm:  depends on how the subtitle is in the video file. but ffmpeg, or mencoder may be able to do it. their faq's have lots of examples
[12:51] <Peanut> This is Ubuntu 12.04LTS by the way, Unity desktop.
[12:51] <notwist> vila: that conclusion makes no sense.
[12:51] <GrubTrouble> vila:  pining ip has nothing todo with dns
[12:51] <notwist> vila: one node working does not mean that all nodes must be working
[12:51] <GrubTrouble> pinging
[12:51] <kpm> thanks dr_willis
[12:51] <vila> notwist: one node sending packets through the router means the router works, the issue is on the other desktop
[12:52] <notwist> vila: 99 % of people have shitty routers under $50, they can give you all kinds of weird errors that disappear with a reboot
[12:52] <notwist> vila: im not saying i know your router is causing this, but your conclusion makes no sense and you should step away from it
[12:53] <GrubTrouble> did u try what we told u before?
[12:53] <notwist> vila: routers suddenly not accepting _new_ nodes why old ones still work is one of the most classic weird errors you get from cheap routers, it can be cause by full buffers and god knows what
[12:54] <GrubTrouble> Hello, can someone tell me please how to hide a partition in the grub entries when booting?, I already tried google, tried chmod -x on the file in the grub.d, tried to comment lines in the grub.cfg, always update-grub after making changes, and no results
[12:54] <vila> notwist: well, the router is also the adsl modem, provided by the isp, worked 24/7 for the last... years and my laptop also on the same lan works, I rebooted the router this morning nevertheless but since only a single node is failing, I can't reboot the router endlessly without visible change no ?
[12:54] <Transhumanist> Can anybody recommend a good, reasonably cheap home router? Extra points for one that plays extra well with wireless mesh networking.
[12:54] <notwist> vila: does it give out local ips? did your non-working computer get a local ip? in that case, nothing is wrong between your NIC and your router
[12:55] <Transhumanist> Below $300 USD. Preferably Broadcom
[12:55] <notwist> vila: if you have a local ip, can ping other local ips but you are denied access to the net that is almost certainly the router doing that
[12:55] <GrubTrouble> Transhumanist:  Cisco LInksys routers are very cheap and good
[12:55] <YokoBR> hey guys, i was using postfix, but then i accidentally installed sendmail and now postfix doesn't work anymore :( Something about write permission i/o error
[12:55] <dr_willis> Transhumanist:  check the revie2ws at the smallnetbuilder type web sites
[12:55] <notwist> vila: the only other conclusion would be that the NIC in that computer is blocking non-local ips and that makes no sense unless you configured it that way
[12:55] <notwist> Transhumanist: whats you requirement on ethernet throughput
[12:56] <GrubTrouble> Transhumanist:  well,it costs around 30 dollars in  uruguay
[12:56] <Transhumanist> I'd prefer 1 Gbps
[12:56] <GrubTrouble> $40
[12:56] <researcher123> I am unable to open system setting
[12:56] <Transhumanist> my country is rolling out fibre-to-the-home and it will soon be 1 Gbps
[12:56] <GrubTrouble> im unable to hide a grub entry
[12:56] <notwist> Transhumanist: if you're ok with about 60 Mbit throughput and want a cheap, awesome linux router with great meshing capability and custom firmwares, WRT54G is the kalashnikov of the router world
[12:56] <vila> notwist: not configured that way but is hosting vms with their own mac addresses so my router (also the dhcp server) give them proper local ips too
[12:56] <GrubTrouble> Transhumanist:  where r u from
[12:56] <notwist> Transhumanist: otherwise just get more expensive linksys/cisco variants
[12:57] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  the hardcore way would be to edit the grub.cfg file. but youre not really supposed to do that
[12:57] <notwist> vila: the point stands, they get a local ip so the router is doing its job
[12:57] <Transhumanist> I'm from Australia
[12:57] <vila> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447468/
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> notwist: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[12:57] <vila> eth1 is not plugged at all
[12:57] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  this entry is for the whole os? or just a single kernel on the os?
[12:58] <Transhumanist> notwist: cheers. I'll probably grab that then. It sounds cool.
[12:58] <Transhumanist> does it support OpenWRT?
[12:58] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  a whole os
[12:58] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  an additional ubuntu
[12:58] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  so how do you ever boot it?
[12:58] <notwist> Transhumanist: i think so, check their page
[12:58] <researcher123> how to set time & date?
[12:58] <notwist> ActionParsnip: yes I can
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> notwist: but you get no web pages?
[12:59] <notwist> ActionParsnip: why would I? its a dns server
[12:59] <vila> notwist: not sure I follow which point you're talking about, the broken host also get a local ip from the dhcp server
[12:59] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  start the computer, and choose among the  f123,this ubuntu i want to hide, the ubuntu im using, and there is a third one which only is used to clone and restore
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> notwist: sounded like you weren't getting web access on the box
[12:59] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  they are located in different partitions
[12:59] <notwist> ActionParsnip: i havent even asked a question here so im think you misunderstanding something
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> notwist: likely :)
[13:00] <YokoBR> i was using postfix, but then i accidentally installed sendmail and now postfix doesn't work anymore :( Something about write permission i/o error
[13:00] <notwist> vila: any idea why you have a br0?
[13:00] <researcher123> I cant see system setting
[13:00] <vila> notwist: qemu-kvm IIRC
[13:01] <Peanut> Is there a way to nuke the whole Unity configuration? I have a 12.04 box, and when I log in, I get a black screen and a few seconds later, I'm back at the login prompt. But when I create a new user, that user can log in just fine.
[13:01] <GrubTrouble> YokoBR:  copy paste the error then we can try to help u
[13:01] <GrubTrouble> pastebin.com YokoBR
[13:01] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble: editing the grub.cfg  should work then. if its the os-prober file thats adding the entry you could disable os-prober. or edit the os-prober script to skip that entry.   the grub.cfg file will state if it was os-prober that added the entry or not
[13:02] <Transhumanist> Peanut: I had that problem too. Moving to 12.10 fixed it.
[13:02] <notwist> vila: well i have no idea, sounds like some local configuration is blocking internet access
[13:02] <Transhumanist> (it was recurrent across multiple computers)
[13:02] <notwist> vila: maybe some firewall setting, i dunno
[13:02] <dr_willis> Peanut:  deleate or rename/move the various config files in the users home.
[13:02] <vila> notwist: no worries, thanks for the help
[13:02] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  if i have two os prober, can i disable only one of them?
[13:02] <Peanut> dr_willis: thanks - what are those config files though? (please note I can only google through Lynx at the moment..)
[13:03] <nokiahost> hello guys
[13:03] <Peanut> Transhumanist: great solution, but a bit scary ;-)
[13:03] <sgt_hagger> Hey guys, anyway to make banshee sort by track order?
[13:03] <notwist> Peanut: just back it all up. Send all hidden folders to a tar.gz file, then delete them
[13:03] <dr_willis> Peanut:  just look at them. move them ALL to a backup directory ;) move them back later
[13:03] <neckcon> anyone have any idea why when I install ubuntu along side of vista...there is no side bar? msg me
[13:03] <notwist> neckcon: wubi
[13:04] <notwist> neckcon: or wait what, sidebar?
[13:04] <researcher123> system setting button stopped working
[13:04] <notwist> neckcon: also, dont request /msg - write in the channel
[13:04] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  theres only the one os_prober script called via the /etc/grub.d/##_scripts that i know of
[13:04] <neckcon> ok thx...yes wubi
[13:05] <neckcon> there is nothing there on the desktop except the bar at the top
[13:05] <notwist> neckcon: so?
[13:05] <neckcon> how do I get the side bar with firefox, spreedsheet, write, ect
[13:06] <nokiahost> whqts up ?
[13:06] <notwist> neckcon: unity? you might have chosen to start without it
[13:06] <sgt_hagger> because it has the track numbers, so it should be able to sort correctly surely?
[13:06] <notwist> neckcon: is this what you are seeing http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed
[13:07] <researcher123> when I click System Setting I dont get anything on screen
[13:07] <nokiahost> u do not see settings aplet?
[13:08] <dr_willis> heh.. except the gnome fallback has a lot of little differances then the actial gnome2
[13:08] <dr_willis> just enough to confuse people
[13:08] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis: now u say, i tried to do chmod -x os_prober
[13:08] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  do u know another way to disable it?
[13:08] <neckcon> like the 3rd image down that page. No home folder, firefox, ect... and nothing but the bar at the top that says Ubuntu Desktop
[13:08] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  it would not be 'os_prober'  but /etc/grub.d/30_os_prober  (or whatever its called)
[13:09] <GrubTrouble> 13_os-prober_proxy
[13:09] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  IF its that 30_os-prober thats adding the entry
[13:09] <notwist> neckcon: look at "From the Unity Greeter select the ‘GNOME Classic’ session and login.
[13:09] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  13_os-prober-proxy
[13:09] <dr_willis> proxy?
[13:09] <notwist> neckcon: see if you can change that to something else than gnome classic, if that is your choice now
[13:09] <notwist> neckcon: try "ubuntu"
[13:09] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  and i have 15_os-prober_proxy  too
[13:09] <GrubTrouble> yes dr_willis
[13:09] <neckcon> I am trying to us Ubuntu 12.10
[13:10] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  i dont have any of those.
[13:10] <nokiahost> brb
[13:11] <dr_willis> run them  as a test and they should print what they add to the grub.cfg
[13:12] <neckcon> brb
[13:12] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  thats what I have, can  I pastebin u?
[13:13] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  im on my phone, so cant read a lot of huge posts easially
[13:14] <vila> notwist: good hint ! ifdown br0 ; ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 ; et viola, everything is working... now it's time to cleanup this br0/lxcbr0/virbr0 mess...
[13:14] <sogeking99> Hey guys, anyway to sort banshee by track order? Because it has the track numbers listed in the track column, so surely it can do it?
[13:14] <Peanut> Solved! I had an .Xauthority-file in my homedir that was owned by root.
[13:14] <vila> notwist: i.e. I still don't know why it broke but at least I can restore some sanity and investigate
[13:15] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  you basically need to figure out what script is adding ghe entrys you dont want and make it not executable. (or move it out of the grub.d directory)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Peanut: if you run GUI apps with sudo, that happens
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Peanut: its why gksudo exists
[13:16] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  u mean by moving these os_prober out the directory can i solve it?
[13:16] <notwist> vila: sounds like internet is working with eth0 but not via br0, thats usually where i get stuck every time i try to set up a bridge, followed by me deleting br0 again and everything working fine
[13:16] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  im not programmer, making a script is out of my possibilities
[13:16] <dr_willis> GrubTrouble:  IF those are the ones adding it.. run them and look what entries they create
[13:16] <notwist> GrubTrouble: do you think people are born programmers?
[13:17] <dr_willis> you are not making a script.. you are seeing what the scripts  do
[13:17] <vila> notwist: right, so, now all my kvm-based vms are broken ;)
[13:17] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  thank u, good idea
[13:17] <sogeking99> anyone know?
[13:17] <notwist> vila: they probably go through the bridge.. i have no idea, i dont know jack about kvm
[13:17] <GrubTrouble> dr_willis:  but both scripts  create two entries,two partitions, sda2 and sda3, while i only want to hide the sda3
[13:18] <asdklasfg> hi! i am in sort of a trouble,  there is an ubuntu server with apache2 (should be running, installed by somebody who was there before me),  but httpd process isnt running and when i try to start it, i get "command not found".  everything in /etc/apache2 seems fine.  Million thanks for some help
[13:18] <vila> notwist: ifup br0 ; and they are working again, so it's probably an ordering issue, eth0 should come up before br0 or everything breaks
[13:18] <vila> notwist: any idea if there is a way to express that kind of ordering dependency ? (Bah, let's ask google first)
[13:19] <notwist> vila: no idea
[13:19] <notwist> vila: it might be as simple as "br0 needs a working interface to binds to on startup"
[13:19] <GrubTrouble> asdklasfg: find / -name "*httpd*"
[13:20] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  well, im not too smart
[13:20] <notwist> asdklasfg: check out /etc/init.d/apache2 or similar
[13:20] <GrubTrouble> to learn
[13:20] <notwist> GrubTrouble: you dont need to be smart, you just need patience
[13:20] <Peanut> asdklasfg: How are you trying to start it, which command gives 'command not found' ?
[13:20] <GrubTrouble> notwist: i disagree, to program u must be very smart, and a very logical brain
[13:20] <GrubTrouble> mathematical think
[13:21] <notwist> GrubTrouble: saying you have an illogical brain is a self fulfilling prophecy and a defeatist attitude
[13:21] <notwist> GrubTrouble: logic isnt magic, anyone can learn it
[13:21] <srhb> GrubTrouble: I'm neither particularly mathematically inclined, nor very smart, but I program just fine. It's just practice.
[13:21] <GrubTrouble> asdklasfg: apache2 -S
[13:22] <GrubTrouble> srhb:  notwist  well,yesterday i made my first script,only a menu to restore...
[13:22] <GrubTrouble> or clone
[13:22] <GrubTrouble> but just look at the fucking grub.cfg, its like c or harder, what code is that?
[13:23] <Pici> GrubTrouble: Please mind your language here.
[13:23] <GrubTrouble> sory
[13:23] <srhb> GrubTrouble: Many configuration files follow different syntaxes, but once you've seen some of them, it gets easy to adjust to new ones.
[13:23] <GrubTrouble> well, LILO was very easy
[13:24] <GrubTrouble> every user could edit it, newbies included
[13:24] <srhb> GrubTrouble: LILO was quite a lot simpler than Grub. Complexity comes with a cost.
[13:24] <notwist> GrubTrouble: everything is confusing when you dont know it, so thats why you learn it to make it not confusing
[13:25] <asdklasfg> Peanut: httpd
[13:25] <notwist> GrubTrouble: grub.cfg is a shell script by the way so if you read up on those it will become clear
[13:25] <notwist> GrubTrouble: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId542243
[13:25] <GrubTrouble> srhb:  notwist  im from yesterday morning with this,tried grubs official solution,and unofficial by editing the grub.cfg
[13:25] <McQueen> hi, how can i learn which applications are starting after ubuntu logon
[13:25] <asdklasfg> Peanut: and it is not in init.d (thats the list of processes to start after system starts right?)
[13:26] <GrubTrouble> notwist:  commeting the script did not help
[13:26] <synned> ?
[13:26] <Peanut> asdklasfg: try /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[13:26] <asdklasfg> GrubTrouble: find / -name "*httpd*" didnt find a thing:)
[13:26] <elena-IK> is there a way to make multimedia keys work while the screen is locked? my volume keys only bring up the password dialog but don't change the volume.
[13:27] <GrubTrouble> asdklasfg:  what about Apache2 -S?
[13:27] <morko> asdklasfg: my ubuntu is running apache2 just fine and there is no process called httpd
[13:28] <GrubTrouble> asdklasfg:  morko  is right
[13:28] <Peanut> asdklasfg: you can also do: dpkg -l |grep apache2 - this should give you a number of packages, at least these: apache2, apache2-utils, apache2.2-bin, apache2.2-common
[13:28] <GrubTrouble> ill be back
[13:28] <McQueen> hi, how can i learn which applications are autostarting after ubuntu login
[13:28] <GrubTrouble> like superman after doomsdayś fight
[13:28] <paradoxical> in older versions you had httpd2 as process
[13:29] <paradoxical> now it's apache2
[13:29] <dr_willis> McQueen:  look in .config/autorun 9or autostart.  and /etc/xdg/autoatart (i think)
[13:29] <morko> asdklasfg: i start the apache2 with upstream?
[13:29] <morko> asdklasfg: service apache2 start
[13:29] <morko> or something
[13:29] <sogeking99> Hey guys, anyway to sort banshee by track order? Because it has the track numbers listed in the track column, so surely it can do it?
[13:29] <asdklasfg> GrubTrouble: that gives back "bad user name {APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[13:29] <McQueen> dr_willis, thanks, looking...
[13:29] <morko> upstream or upstart whatever
[13:30] <notwist> morko asdklasfg both "sevice apache2 start" and "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" should start apache2 if installed
[13:30] <paradoxical> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[13:30] <morko> upstart it is
[13:30] <YokoBR> GrubTrouble, Dec 18 10:44:03 gateway postfix/master[6467]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use
[13:30] <paradoxical> you have to run apache2 as root, it will fall back in its own mode
[13:32] <morko> maybe he is missing the $ sign front of {APACHE_RUN_USER} in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[13:33] <morko> because it prints like that
[13:33] <neckcon> Okay, I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 and now 12.04. Both times I get nothing on the desktop except for the black bar at the top that says "Ubuntu Desktop". I am using the wubi installer with windows vista
[13:33] <asdklasfg> notwist:  /etc/init.d/apache2 start did work! thanks much
[13:33] <Estreptococo> hello
[13:34] <paradoxical> maybe you should try lighttpd, much easier
[13:34] <neckcon> I can hover over the black bar at the top and the words will change to "File" ect... and there are icons at the right hand side of the bar showing keyboard, speakers. ...and shutdown
[13:35] <Estreptococo> i cant install Ubuntu . Ive got a Raid0 ( 2x cricual m4 120gb for windows 8) and another HDD (120 gb for ubuntu)
[13:35] <neckcon> but there is no sidebar showing "home", "Firefox" ect... any ideaas?
[13:35] <Estreptococo> and my grub dont appear
[13:35] <aboudreault> hey I'm getting this ssh error: sshd[4653]: Public key 73:53:99:60:2e:ee:97:a6:8d:97:9c:78:96:36:28:ea blacklisted
[13:35] <YokoBR> well guys, my port 25 is binded to sendmail, that's why my postfix won't start. How can i change it ? sendmail- 13631 root    3u  IPv4 62467555      0t0  TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN)
[13:36] <aboudreault> I tried to generated a new pair... but it always blacklist it.
[13:36] <paradoxical> neckon, maybe try and install gnome
[13:37] <paradoxical> or xfce and login with one of those shells
[13:37] <paradoxical> im not too fond of unity myelf
[13:37] <neckcon> paradoxical: How do I do that
[13:37] <paradoxical> sudo apt-get install xfce
[13:37] <GrubTrouble> im back
[13:37] <paradoxical> reboot, and when loggin in choose for XFCE as shell
[13:38] <sogeking99> Could anyone help me?
[13:38] <asdklasfg> notwist: now it would be sweet if it started on startup. file apache2 is already in init.d
[13:38] <paradoxical> if you want gnome
[13:38] <paradoxical> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[13:38] <paradoxical> sudo apt-get update
[13:38] <paradoxical> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[13:38] <neckcon> paradoxical: Once I login it goes straight to the desktop
[13:38] <FloodBot1> paradoxical: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:38] <dr_willis> gnome-shell is in the newer releases default repos
[13:39] <paradoxical> if im correct, you will get to choose.. you can always choose to logoff otherwuse
[13:39] <paradoxical> ohh nice dr willis, i did not know that
[13:39] <GrubTrouble> YokoBR: someone with ur problem said " reinstall both sendmail and postfix and then stop sendmail on all levels - it worked out! I can now send emails! Thanks!"
[13:39] <dr_willis> been that way for the last 2-3 releases
[13:39] <paradoxical> well im still stuck on an old release ;)
[13:40] <YokoBR> Grubtrouble, thank you, i've killed sendmail's proccess and restarted postfix.. Hope it longs forever :)
[13:41] <GrubTrouble> YokoBR:  me too
[13:42] <morko> asdklasfg: when you tried to start apache2 with "sudo service apache2 start" did it give you this "bad user name {APACHE_RUN_USER}"?
[13:42] <paradoxical> morko: i think it worked for him
[13:42] <escott> aboudreault, what key is blacklisted. the user key, the server key?
[13:42] <fedor> Hi to everyone, I wanted to know if there is a way to install fEcofin in R. However I was trying I couldn't do it. Here and there error messages have been popping up. Help please
[13:43] <Eagleman> i made a directory in /var/run/headphones but when i restart the pc the directory does not exist anymore when i start it up aigan
[13:43] <aboudreault> escott, the user key. the server blacklist it
[13:43] <GrubTrouble> can someone help me to hide a grub entry at boot?, these are my grub.d, tried to remove them exec permissions, tried to comment the grub.cfg  with not luck...http://pastebin.com/ua6yfHJD
[13:43] <morko> paradoxical: yea obviously he got it running but i dont think ubuntu uses init.d anymore for example starting services at bootup?
[13:43] <aboudreault> escott, always... whatever the pair I use
[13:43] <escott> aboudreault, so the fingerprint that is blacklisted is changing
[13:43] <aboudreault> escott, yes
[13:44] <Eagleman> i made a directory in /var/run/headphones but when i restart the pc the directory does not exist anymore any idea what removes it or is everything removed in /var/run up on reboot?
[13:44] <morko> paradoxical: might be my bad english, but i understood that he only got it running with init.d script
[13:44] <asdklasfg> morko: service command not found,  but "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" worked
[13:44] <escott> aboudreault, can you manually check your key against the blacklist with ssh-vulnkey and verify it passes
[13:44] <paradoxical> morko: hmmm i have no idea to be honest, im still on lts release that is old. but after you install it, it is auto configged to run @ startup so..
[13:45] <asdklasfg> morko: and it also looks like it is still on after reboting
[13:45] <morko> asdklasfg: ah ok. nevermind then :)
[13:45] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  why are you makeing that? yes /run/ is like a special dynamic directory
[13:45] <paradoxical> morko: and you have to run it as sudo or it will not work
[13:46] <Eagleman> dr_willis becuase the program creates a file in there
[13:46] <Eagleman> but it runs as another user than root
[13:46] <morko> paradoxical: yea i will leave everyone alone now :)
[13:46] <domie> http://imagebin.org/239808 any clues on why those vertical lines appear when switching viewports? they are vertical only when switching viewports horizontally, diagonally they are oblique and vertically the artifacts are different
[13:47] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  a work around would be to make the directory from rc.local on bootup i guess
[13:47] <aboudreault> escott, doesn't look to pass. I genereted it with ssh-keygen -t rsa
[13:47] <Eagleman> my other programs like sickbeard also do something in /var/run
[13:47] <Eagleman> but their folder wont get deleted
[13:47] <escott> aboudreault, do you have enough entropy
[13:47] <Eagleman> they run as the same user
[13:48] <escott> aboudreault, cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
[13:48] <aboudreault> escott, 169
[13:50] <escott> aboudreault, thats weird. unless you are running the old debian version you shouldn't be consistently generating a vulnerable key
[13:51] <aboudreault> escott, will try to generate my key somewhere else.
[13:55] <aboudreault> escott, it worked. thanks!
[13:56] <escott> aboudreault, something is very messed up with your other ssh installation. i wouldn't trust it
[13:57] <aboudreault> escott, it's a old ubuntu hardy
[13:58] <lucido> hello, I'm getting 100 precent cpu usage on the firefox process
[13:58] <lucido> regularly
[13:59] <elena-IK> is there a way to make multimedia keys work while the screen is locked? my volume keys only bring up the password dialog but don't change the volume.
[14:00] <lucido> elena-IK, hardly possible
[14:00] <elena-IK> lucido: k, thanks
[14:00] <nico__> i cant play vcd's... it alwys says that vlc cannot read the file...
[14:01] <lucido> elena-IK, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122903/how-to-allow-key-functions-while-desktop-locked
[14:03] <elena-IK> lucido: thanks again
[14:03] <Multiply> Is there a smart way to (when pressing a keybinding) to show a specific window based on it's title, or something, and when pressing it again, hiding it?
[14:04] <Multiply> I kinda want to show, and focus a hidden gnome-terminal that's fullscreen, and when clicking the same keybind, hide it.
[14:05] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: something like the guake terminal with f12?
[14:05] <escott> !info guake | Multiply
[14:05] <Multiply> I'll check it out.
[14:05] <Multiply> (Does it behave somewhat like gnome-terminal?)
[14:06] <watchtower> what is encryption like on ubuntu
[14:06] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: what do u mean? what does the gnome-terminal have that you are worried if guake also has it or not?
[14:06] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[14:07] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: it is a nice emulator..
[14:07] <Multiply> iamwhoiam: Nothing, really. It's just I'd hate to get used to new keybindings.
[14:07] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: no, its ok... it has eg multiple tabs etc that if you want you may choose to use..
[14:07] <paulbanks> how can i locate files in my hard drive through thunar on a live dvd session ?
[14:07] <watchtower> Ok thanks
[14:07] <lucido> this script is causing 100 percent cpu usage on my system, why is that?  http://ad.adverticum.net/g3.js:14
[14:07] <nico__> i cant play vcd's... it alwys says that vlc cannot read the file...can anyone help me?
[14:08] <elena-IK> Multiply: keybindings are configurable
[14:08] <dr_willis> paulbanks:  find command  is one way...
[14:09] <sideeffect> i've got a question about internet protocolls, do i understand this corectly:
[14:09] <sideeffect> i'm sending an email for example through outlook. That mail contains information. The information is splitted into packages. Each package gets an „attachement“ this attachement is into the OSI-layers. Where each layer is one of that OSI layers. So one layer would have the adress, where the package has to be sent to. On layer cantains information whith which programm the package should be oppened, and so on and so on?????
[14:11] <somsip> sideeffect: that doesn't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu. You're in the ubuntu support channel...
[14:11] <Multiply> iamwhoiam: Is there a way to make it go to a different monitor, by default?
[14:12] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: hmm.. i have no idea.. from its preferences i dont think so, but you can probably do it by starting it from eg a script and specify the monitor
[14:12] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: DISPLAY=0,1(?) etc etc
[14:14] <Multiply> iamwhoiam: It seems it like a feature for version 0.5.0
[14:15] <Hiob10hiob> Hi, will some Ubuntu 12.10 feutures backported to 12.04?
[14:16] <iamwhoiam> Multiply: perhaps check this : http://guake.org/ticket/270
[14:16] <sideeffect> i'm sending an email for example through outlook. That mail contains information. The information is splitted into packages. Each package gets an „attachement“ this attachement is into the OSI-layers. Where each layer is one of that OSI layers. So one layer would have the adress, where the package has to be sent to. On layer cantains information whith which programm the package should be oppened, and so on and so on?????
[14:18] <llutz> sideeffect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
[14:18] <sideeffect> i understand what the layers are and to, but i cant imagine how to put it togehther with the protocols
[14:19] <llutz> sideeffect: well, reading your question i doubt you understand the layers
[14:20] <nicholas> have a unity/ubuntu question?
[14:21] <sideeffect> :D
[14:22] <sideeffect> ok, what exactly are the layers for
[14:22] <iamwhoiam> lol, thats your unity/ubuntu question?
[14:22] <Pumpkin-_> if this is OSI network layers, try asking ##networking
[14:22] <sideeffect> thx
[14:23] <nicholas> ubuntu doesn't adjust my fans if my computer heats up (every other distro does) is that unity
[14:24] <watchtower> What netwoking enviroment  do you suggest i use shall i use virtulization or maybe running it with xorg with ubuntu 12.10 what would you suggest i am going to run a server and it it going to be used as a media server for files (eg. music files) and maybe a website at a later date what do you guys suggest
[14:24] <srhb> nicholas: Doubtfully.
[14:24] <nicholas> can i doo something about it?
[14:24] <smacktalk> my laptop keeps crashing using the latest version of ubuntu...it was crashing with win 7 too..What's a good diagnostics package?  How do I read the crash logs?
[14:25] <watchtower>  What netwoking enviroment  do you suggest i use shall i use virtulization or maybe running it with xorg with ubuntu 12.10 what would you suggest i am going to run a server and it it going to be used as a media server for files (eg. music files) and maybe a website at a later date what do you guys suggest
[14:28] <f9message> can i burn an .iso image to a usb flash drive that i formatted into ntfs?
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[14:30] <EdenOnEarth> hello all: can anyone recommend  a good bash scripting chat room?
[14:30] <jrib> EdenOnEarth: #bash
[14:31] <Hiob10hiob> Hi, will some Ubuntu 12.10 feutures backported to 12.04?
[14:32] <srhb> Hiob10hiob: Yes. "Some"
[14:32] <lucido> this script is causing 100 percent cpu usage on my system, why is that?  http://ad.adverticum.net/g3.js:14
[14:32] <Hiob10hiob> is there a source of this information?
[14:33] <srhb> Hiob10hiob: Nope.
[14:38] <snikker> hen i try to boot windows xp with grub2 i've got  a "disk read error occurred. press ctrl-alt-del" win boot fine if disconnect linux disk. can you help me to boot win xp on the second drive?
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[14:44] <watchtower> where can i find ubuntu virtulization
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[14:45] <srhb> watchtower: Do you want virtualized Ubuntu or do you want to virtualize things within Ubuntu? What's your use-case?
[14:46] <narwhal> Hi, I was hoping to dual boot Windows 7, and have the ISO to install it- what is a good program to use in Ubuntu to make a startup ISO Image?
[14:46] <Zabrien> I am running 12.10 with classic gnome (no effects). How can I add a "menu" to a panel where I can put various files which will then be opened in their default viewer when selected?
[14:47] <watchtower> HI i wanted to run a virtulized enviroment for my server to manage my file storage i already have the server im just looking for the right thing to run it
[14:47] <varsitythoo> WHERE AM I WHEN YAHOO REGIONAL CLOSED DOWN?
[14:47] <Nickwiz> Where is message queue for notify-send?
[14:48] <Nickwiz> notify-send frequently stops working. But works for other users as root
[14:48] <RealOpty> ello
[14:49] <Nickwiz> there is no notes in /var/log it is simply mute. Manually executing /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daeamon has no effect
[14:49] <dr_willis> watchtower:  you mean like virtualbox?
[14:49] <RealOpty> installing a kernel update, it freezes during install, when doing dpkg --configure -a it still freezes, also caused a kernel panic or ooops is it called?
[14:50] <RealOpty> any suggestions on reversing the package?
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[14:53] <watchtower> Yes
[14:53] <sgtkilljoy> spamy in hear
[14:53] <smacktalk> i keep getting the error ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error message...how do I get more information on what he error was about?  Is there a log?
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[14:54] <Nickwiz> running a strace I see there is a lot of "recv(6, 0x92afa10, 4096, 0)             = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" lines.
[14:54] <watchtower> What do you recommend for running my server like ubuntu server windows server etc.. and shall i run it with virtulization or with a graphcial enviroment
[14:55] <Nickwiz> (on the daemon)
[15:00] <JasperCoenraats> could anyone tell how I change my personal directory/map to another one, on another partition?
[15:01] <llutz> !home | JasperCoenraats
[15:01] <vitimiti> (-.-)/
[15:02] <JasperCoenraats> I already have the partion
[15:02] <JasperCoenraats> It is just that I want Linux to understand where to save the files made in e.g LibreOffice
[15:03] <snikker|2> when i try to boot windows xp with grub2 i've got  a "disk read error" it boot fine if disconnect linux disk. can you help me to boot win xp on the second drive?
[15:03] <nashant> Hi guys
[15:03] <llutz> JasperCoenraats: libreoffice - options -pathes
[15:04] <nashant> I tried making a live usb with live-usb-install, but every time I run 'try without installing' my screen just goes black and I get a 'no signal' message. Any idea why this might be?
[15:04] <Nortio> http://hackfacebookaccount.org/?ref=834810 is how to hack fb acc
[15:05] <Guest54427> guys, ive downloaded ubuntu 12.10 now, and i want to burn it to a cd but the image is bigger then a cd space
[15:05] <Guest54427> it has 753.3MB
[15:05] <rollitup> i was using Windows  and ubuntu 12.04 dual boot and today when i okayed for some software updates which lead to some error and then when i rebooted i am unable to get the grub screen  just the error message
[15:05] <sgtkilljoy> JasperCoenraats: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[15:05] <llutz> Guest54427: you'll need a dvd
[15:05] <szx> is it safe to set PATH in ~/.pam_environment?
[15:05] <rollitup> so i tried booting using the Live ubuntu stick
[15:05] <rollitup> installed boot-repair
[15:05] <Guest54427> llutz: but that is not a cd image iso?
[15:05] <rollitup> ran it a few times with no sucess
[15:06] <surial> When I hit the sleep button on my ubuntu 12.10 foxconn nettop box, it goes to sleep. If I try to wake it up, it'll wake up, I'll see the screen for about 5 seconds, and then it'll go right back to sleep. The only way out is to hard-shutdown and restart it. How would I go about finding out what the heck is going on?
[15:06] <JasperCoenraats> llutz: I have been there, but what can I fill in as path?
[15:06] <sgtkilljoy> Guest54427: u can use a usb flash drive
[15:06] <rollitup> I am totally stumped after struggling to get the system back and running since past 24 hrs
[15:06] <llutz> Guest54427: its an iso, burn it on cd (800mb), dvd or write to usb
[15:06] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: I also tried the article you posted but still get the same grub error
[15:06] <llutz> JasperCoenraats: whereever you mounted your partition, fill in the path you want
[15:07] <JasperCoenraats> I just want the partition "data" to be the path
[15:07] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: sorry can u remind me of the problem
[15:07] <Guest54427> llutz: ok, thanks, i will try to dvd, i thought it cant be burned onto dvd if its a cd image
[15:08] <llutz> Guest54427: no problem, its all just iso9660
[15:08] <rollitup> i cannot get to the grub screen where i can choose to boot between Ubuntu and Windows 7
[15:08] <rollitup> it gives a blank screen withe grub error message
[15:08] <rollitup> i tried Boot-repair but no sucess also tried reinstalling grub
[15:09] <rollitup> i see the Ubuntu partition and the windows partition coz i hadn't deleted it this issue occured after i clicked on to do some software updates in ubuntu
[15:10] <watchtower> Thank you and goodnight ca ching
[15:10] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: tyired holding shift during boot?
[15:11] <rollitup> yes i tried holiding left shift as suggested in one of the articles
[15:12] <rollitup> i used boot-repair thrice till now
[15:12] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: oh error what error
[15:12] <JasperCoenraats> llutz: it seems like I don't see anything called DATA, but there definitly is a partition called so
[15:13] <Zabrien> I am running 12.10 with classic gnome (no effects). How can I add a "menu" to a panel where I can put various files which will then be opened in their default viewer when selected? Specifically, I would like to use it for fast access to some .pdf files
[15:13] <walagade> hi
[15:13] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: GRUB - error : no such partition grub rescue >
[15:13] <YokoBR> hi guys, i'm not recieving emails with php mail() + postfix... any ideas?
[15:14] <llutz> JasperCoenraats: you have to mount it, add an entry to /etc/fstab
[15:15] <JasperCoenraats> I don't know what "to mount"meens
[15:15] <Guest54427> guys, now after i burned the iso, some call trace appeared, with panic+ some memory address
[15:15] <Guest54427> mount_block_root
[15:15] <vila> notwist: ftr, the fix for me was http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447709/
[15:15] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: u tyried update-grub?
[15:15] <Guest54427> vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[15:15] <vila> notwist: i.e. if I want to use dhcp for br0 I shouldn't request it for eth0...
[15:15] <JasperCoenraats> llutz: got it. It was behind media
[15:16] <k1l> !mount JasperCoenraats
[15:16] <researcher123> I am unable to write CD from banshee media player
[15:16] <rollitup> i did but i can try that again
[15:16] <k1l> !mount | JasperCoenraats
[15:16] <vila> notwist: this has worked across 2 reboots so far
[15:16] <vila> notwist: so, once again, thanks, without your suggestion I wouldn't have dig there...
[15:17] <notwist> vila: glad to hear you solved it :)
[15:17] <crypticmofo> looking for a simple linux install for my wife
[15:18] <crypticmofo> something that works right out of the box
[15:18] <nashant> I tried making a live usb with live-usb-install, but every time I run 'try without installing' my screen just goes black and I get a 'no signal' message. Any idea why this might be?
[15:18] <vila> notwist: joy should be shared, makes everybody happier ;)
[15:18] <crypticmofo> i have a ubuntu 8 cd
[15:19] <notwist> vila: what command do you use to compare text files like that?
[15:19] <bazhang> crypticmofo, thats end of life. download the latest.
[15:19] <notwist> crypticmofo: is it an old box?
[15:19] <crypticmofo> yea but gnomeshell will be crazy for her
[15:19] <crypticmofo> yes old box
[15:20] <notwist> crypticmofo: look up linux mint lxde, or xubuntu
[15:20] <bazhang> crypticmofo, then choose something else. show some live cd's
[15:20] <vila> notwist: I keep my /etc tree under version control with bzr and some hacks, etckeeper is said to automate but I had this setup long ago
[15:20] <crypticmofo> coo thanks
[15:20] <notwist> crypticmofo: http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_lxde_whatsnew.php < I always use this for people who have 1) old comps 2) an old windows habit
[15:20] <bazhang> notwist, dont recommend MINT here, its not supported
[15:20] <notwist> bazhang: I can recommend whatever I want
[15:20] <Septima> crypticmofo: i use xubuntu and like it
[15:20] <bazhang> notwist, not in this channel
[15:20] <notwist> bazhang: please refer me to the rules stating that
[15:21] <bazhang> notwist, this is ubuntu support, NOT mint support.
[15:21] <Guest54427> guys, what is this kernel panic - not ssyncing : VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown
[15:21] <notwist> bazhang: you cant refer me to the rules so I'm going to continue to assume that you're trolling
[15:21] <k1l> !mint | notwist
[15:21] <notwist> that is _NOT_ the same thing as "you are not allowed to recommend linux mint"
[15:22] <notwist> noone is asking for support
[15:23] <nobodyimportant> how is it that i booted a LiveUSB and it has clearly loaded the files from a casper-rw file, but the casper-rw file isn't mounted and everything now appears to be on the ramdisk?
[15:23] <dr_willis> Guest54427:  id  try the boot-repair tool from a live cd.
[15:24] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Guest54427
[15:24] <surial> When I hit the sleep button on my ubuntu 12.10 foxconn nettop box, it goes to sleep. If I try to wake it up, it'll wake up, I'll see the screen for about 5 seconds, and then it'll go right back to sleep. The only way out is to hard-shutdown and restart it. How would I go about finding out what the heck is going on?
[15:24] <surial> a command-line triggered suspend works perfectly fine.
[15:24] <Guest54427> dr_willis: thank you
[15:24] <Septima> is boot-repair on the live cd? i wasn't aware of that... learned something awesome today
[15:25] <notwist> surial: correct me if im wrong but wasnt sleep/suspend removed because of problems like that?
[15:25] <dr_willis> Septima:  you have to add a ppa and install it.
[15:25] <notwist> surial: i'd almost recommend just shutting it down instead of suspending
[15:25] <Guest54427> dr_willis: the main problem is that it doesnt even give me the option, but i will try to do that
[15:25] <Septima> oh
[15:25] <dr_willis> Septima:  or get the multi-arch boot-repair live cd
[15:26] <surial> notwist: There's a physical button on the device.
[15:26] <notwist> surial: so?
[15:26] <surial> This is going out to users.
[15:26] <surial> Who will press it.
[15:26] <surial> and will then call me in panic.
[15:26] <notwist> surial: then you disable it.
[15:26] <surial> I attempted to do this in dconf-editor. This does nothing.
[15:26] <surial> I'm half-tempted to get in there with a pair of scissors and cut the cable....
[15:27] <notwist> surial: i dont know enough about this to help you but since it actually _does_ something its detected, so you should be able to change what it actually does to nothing
[15:27] <surial> oh, wait, it's off now.
[15:27] <surial> or.. no, it's not. nevermind.
[15:27] <surial> Right. I'm afraid that somehow maybe the BIOS is doing it. is dconf-editor even the plae to be?
[15:28] <Guest54427> dr_willis: im running memtest right now from the live cd, and ts stuck on test #1 23%.. it means i have memory issues?
[15:28] <Septima> Guest33213: probably not, unless it stays stuck for a long time
[15:28] <noob2> anyone gotten intel 910 ssd's working with ubuntu 12.10?  i installed 9 cards and only 1 is detected
[15:29] <notwist> surial: should be able to disable it in the bios then
[15:29] <dr_willis> Guest54427:  could be. dirty, bad, not seated fully.
[15:29] <noob2> i'm scratching my head on this one
[15:29] <notwist> surial: if its not there, see if bios updates are available and if that function has been added. sometime sthats the case
[15:29] <Guest54427> Septima: i tried to install windows on it before, and it failed with bluescreen, brand new laptop... integrated memory..
[15:29] <HorizonXP> is there a way to have an Upstart script run when a particular wireless connection is established?
[15:29] <Guest54427> dr_willis: memory is integrated on the mainboard
[15:30] <sgtkilljoy> im my experance ram issues can b solved by reseating more oftern then not
[15:30] <Guest54427> dr_willis: but what is the chance of taking a virus and having a broken boot section?
[15:30] <notwist> HorizonXP: a dirty way of doing it could be running a script every five minutes or so with an if-statement looking if its enabled or not
[15:31] <dr_willis> Guest54427:  a virus? slim to nont...
[15:31] <dr_willis> Guest54427:  boot-repair tool can rewrite the mbr
[15:31] <sgtkilljoy> what laptop make/model?
[15:32] <Septima> Guest33213: the drive manufacturer makes tools that can completely reset the drive like new
[15:32] <researcher123> why I cant open brasero disk burner?
[15:32] <llutz> HorizonXP: http://www.techytalk.info/start-script-on-network-manager-successful-connection/
[15:33] <dr_willis> researcher123:  run it from terminal, look for error messages
[15:34] <sgtkilljoy> researcher123: details?
[15:34] <surial> How the heck do I turn a hardware button off? I tried everything dconf-editor and nothing works.
[15:34] <sgtkilljoy> researcher123: not much 2 go on there
[15:34] <HorizonXP> notwist: that's really dirty
[15:34] <researcher123> dr_willis: I got this message "(brasero:8256): WARNING **: An instance of Brasero is already running, exiting"
[15:35] <HorizonXP> llutz: that sounds like a good start, but how can I check the SSID I'm connected to?
[15:35] <b14d3> surial: What button is it?
[15:35] <surial> suspend or hibernate. A little moon icon is on it.
[15:35] <surial> it starts blinking once the machine is suspended.
[15:35] <b14d3> surial: Alright, where is it?
[15:35] <llutz> HorizonXP:one way: let the script check iwconfig output
[15:35] <surial> pressing it does two things: (A) it correctly suspends the machine, and (B) when the machine is awake again, after about 2 seconds, it'll sleep. again. and again. and again.
[15:35] <surial> b14d3: Immediately below the power button.
[15:35] <surial> Which I _CAN_ disable with dconf-editor.
[15:36] <b14d3> surial: So on the tower?
[15:36] <surial> yes.
[15:36] <morsnowski> does anyone know a good app for voice control?
[15:36] <b14d3> surial: Why don't you just disconnect it from the mobo?
[15:36] <surial> it's a nettop box.
[15:36] <llutz> HorizonXP: you might read further into networkmanager, maybe it has that info somewhere
[15:36] <surial> The only way I can disconnect it from the motherboard is with a knife.
[15:36] <surial> Which I'm starting to consider as a potential option....
[15:36] <HorizonXP> llutz: iwconfig is what came to mind first for me too
[15:36] <HorizonXP> llutz: i'll look at the NM docs
[15:37] <llutz> HorizonXP: like "SSID=$(iwconfig $1 | grep ESSID | cut -d":" -f2 | sed -e 's/"//g') "
[15:37] <llutz> HorizonXP: if [ "$SSID" = "myimportantwifinet" ]; then  ... do something
[15:37] <anonymous__> hey
[15:38] <HorizonXP> llutz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13963/call-script-after-connecting-to-a-wireless-network
[15:39] <chozpe> hello, i'm getting these errors http://pastie.org/5547823 when trying to install mono-complete from (deb http://debian.meebey.net/experimental/mono /) https://www.meebey.net/posts/mono_3.0_preview_debian_ubuntu_packages/
[15:39] <llutz> HorizonXP: i'm not using nm but i guess its not too hard to get that working
[15:40] <bazhang> chozpe, on debian?
[15:40] <chozpe> bazhang: on ubuntu
[15:40] <bazhang> chozpe, what version
[15:40] <chozpe> 12.10
[15:40] <PsyMar> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 and I can connect to the internet (as I am now) but only if I sit within about 10 feet of the wireless access point; any advice on what drivers I need to install or how to install them?  It's a Belkin router, I don't know what kind of wireless card I have or how to find out.
[15:40] <b14d3> surial: I'm taking a look into a couple of things.
[15:41] <surial> b14d3: Thanks!
[15:41] <b14d3> surial: I make no promises, other than that I'll try :P
[15:41] <surial> b14d3: Exactly. Thanks :)
[15:42] <srhb> PsyMar: You can find your wifi card by running lspci in a terminal. This will give you necessary information to go on.
[15:42] <b14d3> surial: I appear to be a bit limited because I am at work and can only use my Ubuntu machine via ssh :\ So I can't really dig into dconf right now
[15:43] <PsyMar> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[15:43] <chozpe> bazhang: any idea?
[15:43] <surial> :(. in org.gnome.somethingsomething.plugins.power, there are a million-and-one options for power buttons and laptop lids and such. If I turn every single one of those off, the power button no longer does anything, but that accursed suspend button still 'works'.
[15:43] <PsyMar> aha, found the driver
[15:43] <surial> as in, puts the box into the kind of state where the end user is going to freak out.
[15:43] <llutz> HorizonXP: SSID=$(iwgetid -r)              no grep/sed/awk at all
[15:43] <bazhang> chozpe, you want mono 3.0 complete?
[15:43] <chozpe> bazhang: i've just uninstalled mono2.10, and i'm trying to install mono 3.0
[15:43] <b14d3> surial: How many users will you have?
[15:44] <bazhang> chozpe, let me check the forums, just a moment
[15:44] <surial> b14d3: If this works out, we'll be rolling this box out at 10 to 30 workstations.
[15:45] <b14d3> surial: I can't find anything of particular use, especially given my near complete lack of knowledge of nettop boxes, you may have to do it the old fashioned way and tell them not to press the button :P
[15:46] <b14d3> surial: Or keep looking. I just can't find anything, myself.
[15:46] <chozpe> bazhang: thanks
[15:46] <ziko> any idea what is the best mysql client with GUI version ?
[15:47] <chozpe> bazhang: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  takes a while to complete (and isn't complete yet); can the problem come from there?
[15:48] <srhb> PsyMar: There are some notes on the arch forums on problems like that, have you tried doing a quick google now that you have the model number?
[15:48] <PsyMar> srhb: ah, good idea, thanks
[15:48] <bazhang> chozpe, is this something distinct from monodevelop? version 3.0 is in the 12.10 repos
[15:48] <srhb> PsyMar: Write agian if you have no success or have trouble deciphering it
[15:49] <chozpe> it is?
[15:49] <bazhang> !broadcom | PsyMar have you seen this
[15:49] <chozpe> the official repos?
[15:49] <Zabrien> Are there any applets like the file-browser-applet for 12.10? If not, how do I install file-browser-applet in 12.10?
[15:49] <bazhang> !info monodevelop | chozpe
[15:50] <chozpe> bazhang: that's an ide!
[15:50] <srhb> PsyMar: can you try doing lsmod | grep brcmfmac
[15:50] <bazhang> awn-applet-file-browser-launcher  Zabrien for awn?
[15:51] <bazhang> chozpe, ok, what did you need the mono 3.0 preview for then? if that repo is not working, I' d consider contacting the maintainer at his location
[15:52] <Zabrien> bazhang: what is awn?
[15:52] <chozpe> bazhang: mono is used to run .net apps on linux; i need it to run Boogie (microsoft)
[15:52] <bazhang> Zabrien, avant-window-navigator
[15:52] <morsnowski> does anyone know a good app for voice control?
[15:54] <bazhang> Zabrien, if it's gnome-shell you are using, then you could check out the gnome extensions site to see if they have something similar
[15:54] <Zabrien> bazhang: I am. Can files be bookmarked?
[15:55] <surial> b14d3: Well, thanks for looking. Kind of a shame to tell users: This here is the self-destruct button. Please refrain from pushing it, or you'll have to call us to come pick up the pieces.
[15:55] <surial> I think I will go grab that pair of scissors, actually. It boots in about 8 seconds, not much point to that button.
[15:55] <chozpe> bazhang: i'm going to build it from source it's ok
[15:55] <PsyMar> shrb: I tried that; it returned n othing
[15:56] <milton> hi all I installed ubuntu 12.04 and now when I close the user session, firefox is killed hard (apparantly -9 or something) and shows the "this is embarrasing" page on next login. How can I change the process killing on logout?
[15:56] <srhb> PsyMar: You should probably experimenting with getting that driver running then
[15:57] <PsyMar> "Unable to locate package brcmfmac
[15:57] <PsyMar> "
[15:57] <srhb> PsyMar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Switching_between_drivers
[15:57] <PsyMar> aha, it's msmac, not mfmac
[15:58] <PsyMar> ok, lsmod|grep brcmsmac returns 6 results...
[15:59] <PsyMar> lemme check if it's working yet
[16:01] <srhb> PsyMar: Think you need brcmfmac
[16:01] <PsyMar> really? it seems to be working with the msmac
[16:01] <srhb> PsyMar: Oh well, then keep that. :P
[16:02] <PsyMar> brcmfmac isn't listed on the switching between drivers page, either
[16:02] <srhb> PsyMar: Those are just examples I believe
[16:02] <sgtkilljoy> i recall having problems with Broadcom drivers on an old LT...... in the end i gave up and used ndiswrapper
[16:03] <PsyMar> ok, I just looked at the drivers list, brcmfmac does not list the 4313
[16:03] <PsyMar> and brcmsmac does
[16:03] <srhb> PsyMar: Sorry, I misremembered yours as 4330
[16:04] <srhb> PsyMar: Then you're on the right one
[16:04] <PsyMar> ok, yay
[16:04] <PsyMar> it's now working from the sofa, I'll see if it works down stairs once I get feeling back in my leg
[16:05] <srhb> PsyMar: Remember to do the blacklisting once you have it working.
[16:06] <milton> hmm ok I changed the firefox config to disable the crash reporting instead..
[16:06] <tewea> hey iam using ubuntu 10.10 and iam  far from my office  i would like to work at my home and i woul like to coonect to  ubuntu server using putty  actualy they are different public adress and it says connection time out . please help me?
[16:07] <k1l_> tewea: i would recommend you think about an upgrade plan before connecting a 10.10 outdated ubuntu with the internet
[16:07] <Zabrien> bazhang: hmm, the woftware center does not like to work with me on this. I can find awn, but when clicking on the "info" button it claims there is no such package
[16:07] <srhb> tewea: If your Ubuntu does not have its port 22 exposed publically, you're going to need to do some tunnelling magic.
[16:08] <bazhang> avant-window-navigator   Zabrien
[16:08] <sgtkilljoy> tewea:how have u tried to set this up
[16:08] <tewea> srhb: how coud i know my ubuntu is not use port 22?
[16:08] <Zabrien> bazhang: yep, that's the one I found. I then claims it is not there
[16:09] <Zabrien> do I need to add some extra repository for it?
[16:09] <tewea> sgtkilljoy: by installing putty and ssh in my ubuntu pc
[16:11] <tewea> kll_: is that the case unable to connect?
[16:11] <sgtkilljoy> tewea: this remote location has a router?
[16:11] <tewea> sgtkilljoy: yes
[16:12] <t0ntin> hi all. I'm trying to install srware iron. When I open the package file, I get this message in Ubuntu Software Center: The file “/home/dude/.cache/.fr-NDM67m/iron64.deb” could not be opened. Any ideas?
[16:12] <srhb> tewea: Just to make sure, when you say you've installed ssh on the Ubuntu machine, do you mean openssh-server?
[16:13] <sgtkilljoy> tewea: and how did u set up your router?
[16:13] <k1l_> tewea: no, but you dont get updates anymore, and even ssh got alot oft security updates in that time that you machine is now lacking
[16:14] <tewea> sgtkilljoy: you mean?
[16:15] <tewea> kll_: you are right but idon't think so this is the case?
[16:15] <sgtkilljoy> i mean u are trying to conect to a pc through a router/firewall yes?
[16:16] <tewea> sgtkilljoy: yes
[16:17] <tewea> sgtkilljoy:  can i tell you  the ipadres for both machine
[16:17] <srhb> tewea: Only the server is relevant.
[16:17] <sgtkilljoy> so u have set ur router to accecpt incomming connections on port 22 (or wateva) and to forward these connections to your server?
[16:18] <jogger> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE ROOT COMMAND TO START POSTFIX? IN UBUNTU VPS?
[16:18] <srhb> jogger: WHAT? CAN YOU SPEAK UP?
[16:18] <TheLordOfTime> !caps | jogger, srhb
[16:18] <bazhang> jogger, lose caps
[16:18] <jogger> sorry
[16:18] <bazhang> !eol | tewea
[16:18] <bazhang> tewea, upgrade your end of life machine for support
[16:19] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | tewea
[16:19] <srhb> jogger: generally, service restart servicename is the command you need.
[16:19] <TomyLobo> if only that was possible with the human body
[16:22] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: I tried update-grub after reinstalling grub but i get this error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?). root@ubuntu:/#
[16:22] <escott> rollitup, is /dev mounted?
[16:23] <rollitup> escott: not sure but how do i do that ?
[16:23] <escott> rollitup, ls /dev
[16:23] <jn1> anyone know a program for reading facebook private chat without having to browse the awful site? fbcmd is great but you can't respond with it
[16:23] <rollitup> i have booted using a live ubuntu stick to recover
[16:24] <rollitup> escott: it lists a bunch of stuff
[16:25] <escott> rollitup, so you are following the chroot method
[16:25] <rollitup> yes but i dunno where i am going wrong i am struggling since past 20 hours trying stuff from various forum posts
[16:26] <nashant> Hi guys. I've just done a fresh install with a separate boot partition (/ and /boot on an extended partition) and when trying to boot I'm getting 'error: file not found' and going to grub rescue
[16:26] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: see http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-mounting-dev-in-a-chroot-environment/
[16:26] <rollitup> thanx sgtkilljoy
[16:27] <escott> nashant, efi or bios?
[16:27] <nashant> escott efi
[16:28] <escott> nashant, can you send the output of "sudo parted -l" so we can verify that is correct
[16:28] <nashant> escott from grub rescue?
[16:28] <nashant> or in the live usb?
[16:28] <escott> nashant, from the livecd
[16:29] <nashant> escott: How do I send the output of that to pastebinit?
[16:29] <Walther> What is the package name that provides the default ubuntu LightDM (login screen) theme?
[16:29] <consolers> re, my earlier questions where upstart hangs during boot waiting for some [plymouth] event it never gets, and how to get a login, regardless, I think adding a line "kill timeout 60" to /etc/init.rc may help
[16:29] <escott> !info pastebinit | nashant
[16:29] <bjrohan_> I just purchased a new laptop and installed ubuntu 12.10. The laptop has a microphone, but I can not get it to work, can anyone lend a hand with helping me get it to work?
[16:30] <Walther> I've been installing a ubuntu system ground-up, and now I want the LightDM login screen to have the default look of Ubuntu :P
[16:30] <BigTaxi> an installation program can't find a .gtk+  file it apparently came with... so, help on installing these drivers?
[16:31] <bjrohan_> escott: Would you mind lending a hand to helping me get my built-in microphone working?
[16:31] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: gives me this error  device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1 or /dev/cdrom, or by label, using  -L label  or by uuid, using  -U uuid . Other options: [-nfFrsvw] [-o options] [-p passwdfd]. For many more details, say  man 8 mount .
[16:32] <escott> bjrohan_, i dont know what i would tell you except if it is intel hda look at the debugging intel hda instructions
[16:32] <escott> bjrohan_, that and make sure the correct device is selected in pulse and turn up the gain in alsamixer
[16:33] <escott> rollitup, what gives you that error?
[16:33] <bjrohan_> escott: my system is an hp dv7 with beats audio, not sure what handles the mic
[16:33] <consolers> Now I'm seeing a lightdm problem. When dbus-daemon-launch-helper doesnt work (which means lightdm cant contact consolekit etc), lightdm lists my user with uid 500.  However when dbus-daemon-launch-helper works, it refuses to list my username, and I cannot log in, because there is no box to type in my username. Anyone know how where lightdm is doing this filtering so it can turn it
[16:33] <consolers> off?
[16:34] <escott> consolers, /etc/lightdm.conf which is ignored when accounts-service is running (As you discovered)
[16:34] <denver> Hi, my SSD is dead ? pastebin.com/LebcUVZA SSD someone can check ?
[16:34] <denver> please
[16:34] <denver> ?
[16:34] <BigTaxi> an installation program can't find a .gtk+  file it apparently came with... so, help on installing these drivers?
[16:34] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: u used "mount -B /dev /tmp/chroot/dev"?
[16:34] <rollitup> escott: when i try to mount /dev in a chroot environment following this article http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-mounting-dev-in-a-chroot-environment/
[16:34] <denver> sorry I am drunk
[16:34] <consolers> more terrible conspiracy from the "desktop engineers" . who do i have to pay to get that functionality back?
[16:35] <bjrohan_> escott: when I open my pulse audio control, and I show all input devices, it shows a left and right input, however when I make noise there is no response andy ideas?
[16:35] <escott> rollitup, mount --bind /dev /mountpoint/dev
[16:35] <Walther> So yeah, which package provides the default ubuntu theming to lightdm?
[16:35] <consolers> short of using xdm or startx!
[16:35] <sgtkilljoy> same diff
[16:35] <rollitup> says only root can do that so should i sudo ?
[16:35] <sgtkilljoy> ya sudo
[16:36] <nashant> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447905/
[16:36] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: i get this mount: mount point /tmp/chroot/dev does not exist
[16:36] <escott> nashant, so you aren't configured for an efi boot. you must be doing bios emulation
[16:37] <consolers> "Legacy vga=ask isnt supported by grub2"
[16:37] <escott> rollitup, you have to fill in /tmp/chroot with the path to your chroot
[16:37] <sgtkilljoy> rollitup: mkdir /tmp/chroot/dev
[16:37] <Zabrien> how do I access the gnome-shell-extension-tool ?
[16:37] <nashant> escott: Right. I've got no idea what I have to do
[16:38] <consolers> "~/.fonts.conf deprecated and wont be read in future release"
[16:38] <rollitup> sgtkilljoy: mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/chroot/dev': No such file or directory
[16:38] <surial> How do I disable hardware buttons? As in, buttons on the box itself? There's a suspend button which makes all hell break loose. It's soldered directly to the board, I can't disconnect it.
[16:38] <escott> nashant, was that fdisk?
[16:38] <nashant> escott: yup
[16:38] <escott> nashant, please don't use fdisk. use parted "sudo parted -l"
[16:38] <nashant> fdisk -l
[16:38] <nashant> oh
[16:38] <rollitup> fyi the Ubuntu install that i am trying to recover is on sda7
[16:38] <nashant> oops
[16:39] <BigTaxi> an installation program can't find a .gtk+  file it apparently came with... so, help on installing these drivers?
[16:39] <nashant> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1447913/
[16:39] <escott> sgtkilljoy, rollitup cannot make the directory and then bind mount. thats all backwards
[16:40] <rollitup> is this command correct if my Ubuntu that i wish to recover is on sda7  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/sda7 /dev/sda ?
[16:40] <Walther> So yeah, any ideas on which package provides the Ubuntu default (custom) theme for LightDM / default login manager
[16:40] <escott> rollitup, you first mount the installed ubuntu system root (something like /dev/sda5) on /some/path/you/select. you then mount --bind /dev /the/path/you/selected/dev
[16:40] <nuxusr> ubuntu for android -- any news on a release date? or a date for when they might give the release date :-)
[16:40] <escott> rollitup, you should not need that full command
[16:40] <Pici> surial: This might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils#Disabling_a_hook  If not, then you might want to see if you can disable it in your ACPI options in your BIOS.
[16:41] <rollitup> ok
[16:41] <escott> rollitup, and we cannot tell you what is correct because we dont know what your disk layout is
[16:41] <mizifih> Can anyone help me with squid? I need to allow it process any request, from any IP, without ask for passowrd
[16:41] <rollitup> i have already mounted sda7 before doing the grub install command
[16:42] <escott> rollitup, so if /dev/sda7 is the ubuntu system root and is mounted to /some/path
[16:42] <Denuevo> can someone tell me where is the mistake? http://pastebin.com/wR3aF6yj I get "linux command unknown" and "initrd command unkown" when booting that OS
[16:42] <GJ> hola
[16:42] <GJ> alguien puede habla español?
[16:42] <sgtkilljoy> escott: still need to make /dev to mount to
[16:42] <Denuevo> yo GJ
[16:42] <escott> rollitup, you would sudo mount --bind /dev /some/path/dev; and the same for /sys and /proc (although its not necessary) then sudo chroot /some/path
[16:42] <DJones> !es | GJ
[16:42] <GJ> ok gracias Denuevo
[16:42] <escott> sgtkilljoy, no it should already exist if he properly mounted the system root to that dir
[16:43] <escott> sgtkilljoy, its non-existence indicates that the system root is not mounted to /tmp/whatever
[16:43] <GJ> muchas gracias Denuevo
[16:43] <Denuevo> es como te dijo ubottu GJ , entra a ubuntu-es y hablamos ai
[16:43] <Denuevo> ahi*
[16:44] <Walther> Which package provides the default ubuntu login manager theme?
[16:44] <escott> nashant, you are not configured for an efi boot if that is what you wanted. you may be able to do a bios emulated boot (most efi systems support that) the existence of /dev/sdd could complicate things since it is a gpt disk and might confuse the efi
[16:44] <sgtkilljoy> escott: not is /dev is on a seperate patition
[16:45] <Denuevo> please,a hand
[16:45] <rollitup> escott: sudo mount --bind /dev /media/sda7  ?
[16:46] <escott> sgtkilljoy, the instructions you are giving rollitup are not helping him accomplish his real goal of reinstalling grub
[16:46] <escott> rollitup, lets back up a bit. what is the output of sudo parted -l
[16:47] <sgtkilljoy> chroot, update grub?
[16:47] <escott> nashant, although it sounds like that was not an issue because grub did get called
[16:47] <kelabot> has anyone tried accessing US only websites from overseas?
[16:47] <nashant> escott: I'm trying to figure out how to do a bios emulated boot. Not going well
[16:47] <rollitup> escott: here's the output http://pastie.org/5548154
[16:47] <escott> nashant, do you happen to know which device was your boot device
[16:48] <mizifih> Is there a way, using the terminal, to check IPs connected to my computer and how fast these connections/requests are?
[16:48] <nashant> escott: yup
[16:48] <escott> rollitup, you have two ext4 partitions /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda7 do you know what their functions are? is one a / and the other a /home
[16:48] <nashant> escott: the first one, samsung
[16:48] <nashant> sda
[16:49] <escott> nashant, what i would do is follow the chroot instructions to get into the installed system on /dev/sda### and make sure grub-efi is not installed
[16:50] <escott> nashant, a number of efi systems will boot usb sticks in efi mode and disks in bios so that can confuse the installer
[16:51] <sterns> Ubuntu sos here, need to do some video work tonight, copying mp4 to DVD  is it still that dveedee program
[16:51] <rollitup> escott: yes one is home andone is /
[16:51] <escott> rollitup, do you know which is which?
[16:52] <escott> nashant, are you familiar with chroot process?
[16:53] <rollitup> escott yes i have figured it out
[16:53] <nashant> escott: Not really, but I can google :)
[16:53] <escott> nashant, you can follow along with rollitup
[16:53] <escott> rollitup, which one is the / (i dont care about the /home)
[16:53] <Oracle989> I'm trying to install Cura, and it keeps telling me I need to install PyOpenGL.
[16:53] <Oracle989> Thing is...I have.
[16:53] <Oracle989> How can I get it to understand this fact?
[16:54] <vitimiti> o/
[16:54] <Pici> Oracle989: Are you trying to compile cura?
[16:54] <nashant> escott: I've worked out why it installed grub-efi. Because I was selecting UEFI boot instead of USB in the boot menu
[16:54] <escott> nashant, yeah... lots of efi systems like to do that. really confuses the installer
[16:54] <Oracle989> Unless I terribly misread things, it looks like all I have to do is run cura.sh.  Is this my first mistake?
[16:55] <escott> nashant, so the installer saw that and installed grub-efi probably to /dev/sdd because that was the only gpt disk and now you have this crazy cross-disk boot that isn't working
[16:56] <Oracle989> Excuse my ignorance, I haven't done terribly much with Linux so it's kind of foreign to me.
[16:56] <nashant> I can't blame it really, it's confusing the hell out of me
[16:56] <srhb> Oracle989: By which method did you install PyOpenGL?
[16:56] <nashant> escott: my problem is that whenever I try and run the live usb outside of efi mode it just hangs
[16:57] <rollitup> escott: / is sda5
[16:57] <escott> nashant, so don't just boot the livecd. chroot into the installed system. remove grub-efi, install grub
[16:57] <Oracle989> Google informed me that if I put "sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.8 pypy python-opengl python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion" into the command line, then I should be able to run Cura.
[16:57] <Oracle989> So that's what I did.
[16:57] <escott> rollitup, have you mounted sda5 anyways. check "mount | grep sda5"
[16:58] <rollitup> escott: this is what i got /dev/sda5 on /media/895de441-4531-4d76-9e20-59185095e188 type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda5 on /media/sda5 type ext4 (rw)
[16:59] <escott> rollitup, so that path is going to be a pain. "sudo umount /media/895[TAB]"
[16:59] <escott> rollitup, then "sudo -i" (we will be using sudo a lot and this way we get a terminal where we dont have to type sudo all the time, but it is for only this one terminal)
[17:00] <Pici> Oracle989: Did you try running cura from the script inside the scripts/linux directory?
[17:00] <escott> rollitup, with the terminal you did sudo -i: mkdir /ubuntu; mount /dev/sda5 /ubuntu;
[17:00] <nashant> escott: where were the chroot instructions you gave?
[17:00] <Pici> Oracle989: And/or did you install it with setup.py?
[17:00] <escott> nashant, rather don't try to boot the livecd in bios, just boot it in efi
[17:01] <Oracle989> I tried to run setup.py, but nothing seemed to happen.  I'll go have a look in the linux directory.
[17:01] <escott> !chroot | nashant im also walking rollitup through the process we just started if you want to follow us
[17:01] <escott> rollitup, at this point if you "ls /ubuntu" you should see a similar set of folders as if you "ls /" thinks like /bin and /usr and /lib etc
[17:01] <bjrohan> Anyone with java experience help me out? I have a web app, that runs okay on one website, and doesn't run on another (same app), it says Java is not detected. When this happened last time it had to do with whose Java I had installed. I think I have everything installed, by that I mean Oracle, and icedtea
[17:02] <rollitup> escott: when umount i get this umount: /media/895de441-4531-4d76-9e20-59185095e188: device is busy.
[17:02] <escott> rollitup, you have a window open inside that or a terminal maybe
[17:03] <escott> rollitup, or maybe you bind mounted /dev to /media/895...../dev
[17:03] <nashant> escott: right, I've got sda8 mounted as /media/ubuntu and sda7 as /media/ubuntu/boot
[17:03] <Oracle989> Or...not.  Sorry for knowing dick-all about this.  Where should I be looking?
[17:03] <escott> nashant, bind mind /dev, /proc, /sys to /media/ubuntu/(dev|proc|sys) with sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev
[17:04] <escott> nashant, then copy /etc/resolv.conf /media/ubuntu/etc
[17:04] <opalepatrick> what do I use as an alternative to devilspie with unity?
[17:04] <rollitup> escott: i closed the file explorer window for that partition already
[17:05] <nashant> escott done
[17:05] <escott> rollitup, it may be easier to have you reboot. i dont know what commands you have run already so figuring out what you have that is using that device is harder
[17:05] <rollitup> escott: it says umount: /media/895de441-4531-4d76-9e20-59185095e188: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[17:05] <Oracle989> Pici, where is it I should be looking?
[17:06] <escott> nashant, sudo chroot /media/ubuntu; apt-get update; apt-get remove grub-efi; apt-get install grub;
[17:07] <vitimiti> bye
[17:07] <escott> rollitup, im saying it may take 20min to explain how you can read lsof output to figure it out. you could probably reboot in half that time
[17:07] <rollitup> ok escott as you say and after rebooting do i repeat the steps u listed above in the chat ?
[17:08] <escott> rollitup, once you reboot just come back into channel. now that we know the disk its going to take only a minute or so
[17:08] <rollitup> ok
[17:08] <mizifih> Hi there! Is there a way, using the terminal, to check IPs connected to my computer and how fast these connections/requests are?
[17:08] <nashant> escott: all done. Is grub fully set up, or do I need to tell it where to boot from?
[17:08] <escott> rollitup, just don't open anything except a terminal and the chat window
[17:08] <escott> nashant, do a grub-install /dev/sda in your chroot'ed terminal
[17:08] <rollitup> ok brb escott
[17:09] <escott> nashant, the only other recommendation would be to destroy the partition table on /dev/sdd
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> mizifih  lsof comes to my mind, but i'm not sure with what option
[17:09] <bim-bim> hay
[17:10] <escott> mizifih, fast?
[17:10] <escott> nashant, which you could do with parted. create a new msdos (AKA bios/mbr) partition table on that disk
[17:11] <nashant> escott: I take it it was too early to reboot at that point
[17:11] <escott> nashant, if you remove sdd from the boot order it should be ok
[17:11] <opalepatrick> any idea what to use for pinning stuff to alternative workspaces instead of devilspie which does not appear to work?
[17:11] <escott> nashant, but the efi system may seek out the gpt disk and give it priority in the boot over sda
[17:12] <nashant> escott: right. It just puts me into a grub prompt
[17:13] <escott> nashant, right but i dont know if that is grub on sda or grub on sdd
[17:13] <rollitup> escott: back again
[17:13] <escott> rollitup, ok. open a terminal. "sudo -i" and this will be the only terminal we use
[17:13] <nashant> escott: well it's a different prompt from before. And I removed sdd from the boot order
[17:13] <Zabrien> do extensions not work if I use gnome classic?
[17:14] <escott> rollitup, silence is success so if a command doesn't output anything thats good.
[17:14] <rollitup> ok escott
[17:14] <rollitup> did sudo -i
[17:14] <escott> rollitup, mkdir /ubuntu; mount /dev/sda5 /ubuntu; mount --bind /dev /ubuntu/dev; mount --bind /sys /ubuntu/sys; mount --bind /proc /ubuntu/proc;
[17:15] <escott> rollitup, each ";" indicates a break between different commands
[17:15] <escott> nashant, ok. what does "ls" output in the grub prompt
[17:16] <nashant> escott: ah, Just gone back into the chroot. Hold on a sec
[17:16] <nashant> or can I do anything from here?
[17:16] <escott> nashant, not sure why grub isn't booting so hard to say
[17:17] <nashant> escott: unrecognised command
[17:17] <escott> nashant, in the chroot you can verify that grub is installed, and that /boot looks ok. you could also run something like the boot-info script
[17:18] <escott> nashant, what command is unrecognised?
[17:18] <nashant> ls, from the grub prompt
[17:18] <escott> nashant, are you sure it is a grub prompt?
[17:18] <rollitup> escott: i am done with the above mount --bind command
[17:18] <nashant> escott: grub> _
[17:18] <escott> rollitup, and no messages or errors
[17:19] <escott> rollitup, chroot /ubuntu
[17:19] <rollitup> yes all silence
[17:19] <escott> rollitup, at this point you would be inside the installed system and any commands are going to affect the installed system
[17:19] <escott> rollitup, i believe you want to run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[17:20] <dave101010> hi all
[17:20] <escott> rollitup, which will reinstall grub to the mbr and set it up to look at /dev/sda5 during the boot
[17:20] <rollitup> escott: whatever that can get me to boot inside the Ubuntu install
[17:20] <rollitup> also i hope i get the option to login to win7 too
[17:20] <rollitup> so should i run grub-install /dev/sda ?
[17:20] <escott> rollitup, i don't know why you weren't booting before. you came in asking how to reinstall grub from a chroot
[17:21] <Jlexa> Hi! How to install PIL with JPEG support on Ubuntu 12.10? I have used a lot of manuals, but nothing seems to work.
[17:21] <nashant> escott: should I have installed grub2?
[17:21] <escott> rollitup, yes grub-install /dev/sda will set things up
[17:21] <escott> nashant, grub is an alias for grub2
[17:21] <escott> nashant, you might try the boot-info script
[17:22] <hadidy> hi
[17:22] <anonymous_> hadidy
[17:22] <escott> nashant, http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[17:22] <hadidy> 50d
[17:22] <hadidy> ya ebn el klb
[17:22] <fellipe> hi. In ubuntu 12.04, when I set dns-nameservers in each interface  in /etc/network/interfaces , the system will query the dns server related to that interface, right? So I can have many dns servers as I have interfaces connected to internet links, is it?
[17:22] <anonymous_> hey floodbot1
[17:22] <hadidy> can any body help us
[17:23] <rollitup> I usually update the system using sudo apt-get update but today, i simply clicked the software update notification that keeps showing in dash
[17:23] <rollitup> and these were the consequences
[17:23] <hadidy> dued\
[17:23] <rollitup> ok escott it says installation finished . No error reported
[17:23] <DJones> hadidy: Just ask your question, people won't know if they can help until they know what the problem is
[17:23] <rollitup> should i reboot the machine by removing the live usb stick ?
[17:23] <Oracle989> Well then.  I guess I get no more help.  Open-source quality goes straight through to the community support, I see.
[17:24] <escott> rollitup, i guess type exit twice then reboot
[17:24] <Dude> hello all
[17:24] <Deldeeric> is it suitable to ask a question regarding sgrep here?
[17:24] <rollitup> escott: do i need to do the update-grub at this time ?
[17:24] <hadidy> ok can any body tell me how to leran how to crack a computer using anon-os
[17:24] <escott> rollitup, and reboot properly from the menu, not just yanking the stick
[17:24] <Dude> plz i need help
[17:24] <Guest42686> yes i knox
[17:24] <escott> rollitup, you could run update-grub from within the chroot if you think that will help things
[17:25] <rollitup> ok brb
[17:25] <hadidy> k thanx
[17:25] <anonymous__> hey
[17:25] <hadidy> 5od
[17:25] <Deldeeric> I have a very basic question about sgrep, anyone pretty familiar?
[17:26] <Deldeeric> I just want the results to be output with a page break.. any suggestions?
[17:27] <Lope> hi I'm busy downloading Aptana. http://www.aptana.com/downloads/start it says here that I must have Sun/Oracle Java 1.5.x installed. I checked out the apt-get repos, and can't find it.
[17:27] <jpds> Lope: Of course not.
[17:27] <anonymous_> hey guys
[17:27] <Lope> running ubuntu mint mate 13 (12.04)
[17:27] <anonymous_> i want to know who to hack a pc
[17:27] <jpds> !mint | Lope
[17:27] <Lope> jpds: why?
[17:27] <jpds> anonymous_: Not here.
[17:27] <anonymous_> can any one help me
[17:28] <dr_willis> !java | lope
[17:28] <anonymous_> ok
[17:28] <jpds> Lope: Because you have to download it from the Oracle website because of their license.
[17:28] <anonymous_> what about facebook hack
[17:28] <jpds> !hacking | anonymous_
[17:28] <jpds> !piracy | anonymous_
[17:28] <dr_willis> anonymous_: learn some real skills
[17:29] <anonymous_> ok
[17:29] <rollitup> escott:
[17:29] <rollitup> getting the same error still error: no such partition grub rescue>
[17:29] <anonymous_> soo why u download os for
[17:29] <hadidy> sup does any body know any thing in hacking r no
[17:30] <escott> rollitup, try running this from the livecd http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[17:30] <morko> no. this is ubuntu support channel. what did you think?
[17:30] <sgtkilljoy> anonymous_: use axe
[17:30] <Lope> lol, linux mint help has 2 people on the channel.
[17:30] <Pici> Lope: their channel isn't on freenode.
[17:30] <anonymous_> what is axe for
[17:30] <dr_willis> Lope: they are on a different server
[17:30] <hadidy> axe
[17:30] <hadidy> how
[17:31] <hadidy> k thanx
[17:31] <dr_willis> axe - used to hack and chop wood......
[17:31] <sgtkilljoy> mint help has 213 over on spotchat
[17:33] <anonymous_> hey guys
[17:33] <anonymous_> i need help
[17:33] <anonymous_> can any one help
[17:33] <Pici> anonymous_: We won't know unless you ask a question.
[17:37] <nashant> escott: no grub installed anywhere but sda
[17:37] <escott> nashant, can you paste.ubuntu.com the full output
[17:37] <escott> nashant, try and figure out where it is looking for its files
[17:38] <anonymous_> hey
[17:38] <nashant> escott: that's what I'm trying
[17:38] <anonymous__> haddiy
[17:39] <nashant> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448038/
[17:39] <escott> nashant, grub legacy that is grub1. did you never make the transition to grub2
[17:40] <nashant> escott: I did apt-get install -y grub; grub-install sda
[17:40] <escott> nashant, so yeah that is what is going on. you have grub1 on /sda pointing to sda7 where you have grub2 boot files
[17:41] <nashant> escott: so how do I put grub2 on there?
[17:41] <escott> nashant, i would chroot back in. remove and purge grub-legacy, then install grub (making sure it picks grub2) and running update-grub
[17:42] <nashant> escott: how do I make sure it picks grub2?
[17:42] <escott> nashant, and grub-install /dev/sda. when that is all done the boot info script should show grub on /dev/sda pointing to grub.cfg on /dev/sda7
[17:42] <hadidy> how to go to axe server
[17:42] <escott> nashant, it should prefer grub2 over grub1. it only keeps grub1 around if you have that on disk
[17:42] <anonymous__> hadidy
[17:43] <anonymous_> hey
[17:43] <anonymous_> guys
[17:43] <rusfus_> hi
[17:43] <rusfus_> can someone give me a hand, practically since I restored gnome, following the problems of nautilus when i run the system on time I open the home, mozilla, irc chat global, terminal, and notes. how can I do to get them to open?
[17:43] <escott> nashant, dpkg -l "*grub*" will show the different grub versions that exist "grub" is just a meta-package that has some logic to pick one of the three options grub-legacy, grub2 or grub-efi
[17:43] <anonymous__> anyone kpown how can i hack facebook
[17:43] <anonymous__> kown
[17:43] <anonymous_> i want to know how to hack a acc in fb
[17:44] <OerHeks> anonymous_,  anonymous__ stop it
[17:44] <llutz> anonymous_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+become+a+leet+hacker&l=1 and now ... go
[17:44] <dr_willis> anonymous_: learn some real skills.. and quit being silly.
[17:44] <hadidy> what do u mean
[17:44] <anonymous__> what real skill like
[17:44] <anonymous_> that is real skills
[17:44] <hadidy> what do u mean
[17:45] <anonymous__> what u mean with real skill
[17:45] <dr_willis> anonymous__: go learn to program.
[17:45] <OerHeks> anonymous_,  anonymous__ your ip is now known by facebook LoLz
[17:45] <nashant> escott: I'm doing apt-get install grub2 just to make sure
[17:45] <rollitup> escott: here are the contents of results.txt http://pastie.org/5548386
[17:45] <escott> nashant, just make sure grub-legacy is removed before installing
[17:46] <nashant> escott: grub-legacy wasn't installed
[17:46] <escott> rollitup, that should be booting just fine. what is not working?
[17:46] <anonymous__> do u progam for hacking
[17:46] <anonymous__> anyone
[17:46] <escott> nashant, in that case maybe just hte mbr was stale. grub-install /dev/sda
[17:46] <rollitup> like after i installed grub and then doube quit in the terminal
[17:46] <escott> nashant, (from within the chroot)
[17:46] <rollitup> i rebooted the desktop
[17:47] <rollitup> withouth the live stick inserted
[17:47] <rusfus_> ??
[17:47] <rollitup> and then it goes to a blank screen and thereafter i get that grub error
[17:47] <escott> rollitup, what is the grub error
[17:47] <dr_willis> anonymous__:  do you have a ubuntu support question?
[17:47] <lVathan> Hi i am trying to install ubuntu 12.10 and I am getting an error : GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon, then failed to idle channel 2
[17:48] <rollitup> escott: partition not found grub >
[17:48] <fulcan> how do you 'blow out/nuke' a samba pkg-add installation? I mean completely blow it up, configs and all and reinstall back to factory defaults?
[17:48] <daevski> I have several drives that refuse to mount for various reasons. Can someone help me get just _one_ of them mounted? I can pastebin errors, etc.
[17:48] <escott> rollitup, do you see the grub menu at all? (is it configured to show the menu?)
[17:48] <DJones> !hacking | anonymous__
[17:49] <daevski> What paste site is good now?
[17:49] <escott> !paste | daevski
[17:49] <rollitup> no i don't see any grub menu, after i reboot the cursor keeps blinking for a while and then it goes to a Black screen and after some time i get that error with the grub > prompt escott
[17:49] <libpenguin> how to change or renew ip of system and router ?
[17:49] <daevski> escott, ty
[17:51] <rollitup> escott: the error says error: no such partition, grub rescue >
[17:51] <nashant> escott: how would I add nomodeset to the grub2 options?
[17:51] <daevski> I need to get sdb, sdd or sde working, here is my "fdisk -l" output :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448055/
[17:51] <lVathan> i am getting an error of GPU lockup switching to software fbcon
[17:51] <lVathan> when installing
[17:51] <lVathan> any ideaS?
[17:51] <escott> nashant, edit /etc/default/grub (inside the chroot) and rerun update-grub
[17:52] <escott> rollitup, the only thing that looks weird in the bootinfoscript is the presence of the file /boot/grub/core.img on sda7
[17:53] <escott> rollitup, presumably you chrooted into the wrong driver or something. otherwise it looks ok
[17:54] <rollitup> is there anything else that can be done , I am exhausted and the only last resort left would be to reformat , reinstall everything and begin from scratch
[17:54] <nashant> escott: I've run that, but that hasn't helped me add nomodeset to the boot options. Got a display problem
[17:55] <escott> nashant, does grep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg not show the option
[17:55] <escott> rollitup, so this happened after an update of some kind?
[17:56] <rollitup> yes
[17:56] <rollitup> the update also never completely happened
[17:56] <escott> rollitup, ohhh
[17:56] <escott> rollitup, what are the last 100 lines of /var/log/dpkg.log
[17:56] <rollitup> and then i had to reboot the computer and after that i am unable to get the boot screen just this error
[17:56] <escott> rollitup, tail -n 100 /ubuntu/var/log (or wherever you mount the sda5 disk)
[17:57] <daevski> I have several drives that refuse to mount for various reasons. Can someone help me get just _one_ of them mounted? :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448055/
[17:57] <qwebirc3065> Hello. i have a question
[17:57] <daevski> Hi qwebirc3065, just ask it :)
[17:57] <escott> daevski, if you read the thing you pasted you'll note it says not to use fdisk
[17:57] <daevski> escott, I've used gdisk and testdisk also. I need a hand-holder, if one is free.
[17:58] <rusfus_> can someone give me a hand, practically since I restored gnome, following the problems of nautilus when i run the system on time I open the home, mozilla, irc chat global, terminal, and notes. how can I do to get them to open?
[17:58] <qwebirc3065> I extracted the ubuntu 12.10.iso file to my D local drive and ran the wubi.exe file. i can try ubuntu when the pc starts but when i want to install it it says internal error
[17:58] <qwebirc3065> i cannot switch back to windows either as ubuntu takes over when the pc starts
[17:58] <escott> daevski, lets start by following the instructions of the commands you have already run and use "sudo parted -l"
[17:58] <qwebirc3065> what should i do
[17:58] <nashant> escott: yes, it did. nomodeset hasn't helped though. It teases me with a purple screen, but then my display just goes to 'no signal'. using an Nvidia GT520
[17:59] <escott> nashant, does that mean you are booting now though?
[17:59] <dr_willis> qwebirc3065: you dont need to ectract the iso
[17:59] <qwebirc3065> dr_willis: i used to universal usb thing
[17:59] <qwebirc3065> the problem is basically that ubuntu won@t install
[17:59] <nashant> escott: well I assume it's booting, but I just can't see anything.
[17:59] <escott> nashant, if you see the purple screen that is booting. so good one problem solved
[18:00] <dr_willis> qwebirc3065: you can download the wuni.exe and the iso. no need for the universalinstall thing
[18:00] <escott> nashant, if nomodeset is appearing in grub.cfg then nomodeset is set
[18:00] <dr_willis> qwebirc3065: i suggest not using wuni
[18:00] <dr_willis> wubi
[18:01] <nashant> escott: That's what I thought. Just the display issue to go.
[18:01]  * MonkeyDust red alert wubi
[18:01] <IdleOne> qwebirc3065: When you boot the computer do you see the GRUB menu where you can select either Ubuntu or windows?
[18:01] <nashant> escott: it was set for recovry mode. I added it in to normal boot, but no cigar
[18:01] <daevski> escott, I found a bug in GNU Parted. lol :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448081/
[18:02] <escott> nashant, i dont really know much about nvidia, its not something i choose to waste my time on. it could be an optimus issue i dont really know
[18:02] <escott> daevski, looks more like the disk is toast
[18:02] <mizifih> escott just want to know the instant speed getting in and out from a given IP
[18:03] <mizifih> escott not local IP, the remote IP connected to my machine
[18:03] <daevski> escott, sdb is? Can I test the others?
[18:03] <TomyLobo> mizifih try iftop
[18:03] <escott> mizifih, ifconfig will tell you the bandwidth of your connection. if you want to know the bandwidth to another ip you need to try and send a big file and time it
[18:04] <escott> daevski, you can sudo parted -l /dev/sdX for each device
[18:04] <daevski> escott, makes sense, thanks.
[18:04] <rollitup> escott: here's the output http://pastie.org/5548455
[18:05] <mizifih> escott iftop, suggested by TomyLobo looks simplier, LOL. Thank you though ;)
[18:05] <escott> rollitup, nothing in that should cause problems booting
[18:06] <rollitup> strange
[18:06] <mizifih> TomyLobo can I isolate only one host with iftop?
[18:06] <escott> rollitup, if that upgrade was failing you could chroot in again
[18:06] <TomyLobo> mizifih i guess. i never tried
[18:07] <escott> rollitup, and then run "apt-get -f install" to try and complete/fixup the upgrades
[18:07] <TomyLobo> it shows stats by connection
[18:07] <libpenguin> how to change or renew ip of system and router ?
[18:07] <rollitup> i had begun using Ubuntu since past 3 months
[18:07] <IdleOne> libpenguin: reboot the router, turn it off or unplug it for 5 minutes then turn it back on.
[18:07] <rollitup> and most of the updates i did were through the terminal but this was one grave mistake by hitting the software update  via the GUI that keeps popping now and then
[18:07] <rollitup> damn
[18:08] <libpenguin> IdleOne: thnx
[18:08] <escott> rollitup, its all the same. shouldn't matter, but the packages that were updated are rather tame. looks like firefox and some language packs
[18:08] <gener1c> i open a file in xarchiver edit it close it , reopen it, and the edit is gone
[18:09] <libpenguin> IdleOne: how to install mscorefonts installer offline ?
[18:09] <escott> rollitup, unless there is more stuff cut-off above that
[18:09] <rollitup> should i pastie the whole log file then ?
[18:09] <escott> rollitup, if you can find where the date switches to 2012-08-17 just those entries
[18:09] <mns> how do I get aptitude to not only purge the package, but also its dependencies that got installed ?
[18:10] <escott> rollitup, grep 2012-08-17 /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit
[18:10] <IdleOne> libpenguin: download ttf-mscorefonts-installer from packages.ubuntu.com and then you can sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the machine with no internet
[18:10] <escott> IdleOne, i think it downloads the fonts from MSFT online
[18:10] <libpenguin> IdleOne: that asks for downloading packages and internet connection
[18:11] <escott> libpenguin, i believe you can just grab the *.exe's from MSFT's website and store them in the right place
[18:11] <libpenguin> escott: yea you are right
[18:11] <IdleOne> escott: hmm, if that is the case I have no idea how to do it.
[18:11] <libpenguin> escott: i already have them but how to install exe files on linux ?
[18:11] <dr_willis> get the fonts from a windows install...   ;-)
[18:11] <nashant> Does anyone have any experience with making Nvidia cards working on a fresh install? My display just goes blank when trying to boot
[18:11] <IdleOne> escott: could he install it from a live cd and then copy the appropriate folders?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> libpenguin  you need WINE to run .exe files
[18:12] <dr_willis> put them in therightfontsdir.
[18:12] <libpenguin> dr_willis: problem is not getting the fonts but how to install them ?
[18:12] <escott> libpenguin, (a) those aren't really exe's they are self-extracting zips. you unzip them (b) if you look at the deb it should download them somewhere like /tmp and then unpack them. you might be able to fool the deb by putting the exe in temp
[18:12] <dr_willis> libpenguin: put them in. f   .fonts   is one way
[18:12] <libpenguin> MonkeyDust: but when installed through ubuntu-restricted-extra, it doesn't asks for wine
[18:12] <arosen> If i want to download some debiain packages directly should I be able to find them in here somewhere? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/
[18:12] <daevski> escott, would there be any way to moun this drive? It's USB external that fails to mount when plugged in. :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448121/
[18:13] <rollitup> i have no pastebinit installed since i am using the live stick
[18:13] <libpenguin> escott: ohh ok...i will try that but still the same problem anyway to automate like only doing dpkg and the rest is done by itself ?
[18:14] <escott> daevski, i've never seen anything like that. why do you have a gpt table inside the mapper device?
[18:14] <luskbo> irc
[18:14] <libpenguin> ????
[18:15] <escott> libpenguin, depends on how much you want to go digging into the dpkg. you could just unzip the exe's and dumpt the *.ttf's into ~/.fonts
[18:15] <daevski> escott, no idea. But I might have lied, that could be the raid (2 sd drives) I'm trying to back up.
[18:15] <daevski> escott,  it ended up at the end of the parted -l list
[18:15] <nashant> escott: I thought it was booting, but I've installed openssh-server in the chroot, then rebooted, but I can't connect after waiting 5 mins
[18:15] <escott> daevski, do you have fake raid somewhere
[18:16] <libpenguin> escott: hmm...well its easier, a script can be made to do so...or not ?
[18:16] <rollitup> escott: why the date range 2012-08-17 ?
[18:17] <escott> libpenguin, presumably that dpkg is just a script to download the exe, unzip it, and dump the ttf file in /usr/share/fonts with an appropriate license display to the user. you could write your own script to do all that but using the files you downloaded
[18:17] <daevski> escott, The raid is made in bios, but I know nothing else. Just booted ubuntu to backup the files. After starting the 'install ubuntu' from live environment, it mounted the raid drives for me. I'm thankful, but not I need ANY other drive to back them up to. (New mobo will break the raid)
[18:17] <escott> rollitup, i just want to see yesterdays updates. the ones that caused the problems
[18:17] <daevski> escott,  now* I need
[18:17] <escott> daevski, thats called fakeraid
[18:17] <daevski> escott, noted. thank you.
[18:18] <escott> daevski, and things like "new board will break the raid" is why it is such junk
[18:18] <daevski> escott, yup, lesson learned....
[18:18] <libpenguin> escott: umm ok....also how to know any packages dependencies before doing dpkg or installing through apt-get ? any list or other way or method ?
[18:18] <escott> daevski, in any case mapper seems to have figured it out. the device is /dev/mapper/pdc_blahblah
[18:18] <escott> !info debtree | libpenguin
[18:18] <daevski> escott, yes thank you. I'm going to try to get other drives working. I appriciate your time.
[18:19] <libpenguin> escott: thnx
[18:19] <libpenguin> !debtree > libpenguin
[18:20] <mithran> good after noon.. my ubuntu cannot mout the drivers
[18:20] <rollitup> escott: I can't seem to install pastebinit
[18:20] <libpenguin> escott: when i am doing ubottu querry for myself by !debtree > libpenguin then its saying srry it doesnt know anything about debtree ?
[18:20] <rollitup> any clue
[18:21] <mithran> what shall i do?
[18:21] <bekks> mithran: Drivers are never mounted. Whats the actual problem you are experiencing?
[18:21] <escott> rollitup, because you have broken packages. just grep 2012-08-17 /var/log/dpkg.log > ~/recent_changes.log and paste the recent_changes.log file created in $HOME
[18:21] <Pici> libpenguin: you forgot !info
[18:21] <IdleOne> libpenguin: /msg ubottu !info debtree
[18:22] <mithran> bekks: i can mount my pendrive automaticaly but cannot find the system drives just only see the file system:(
[18:22] <rollitup> isn't the date supposed to 2012-12-17 instead of 2012-08-17 escott ?
[18:23] <bekks> mithran: So what do you see when issueing: "df -h" without the "" in a terminal?
[18:23] <bekks> !paste | mithran
[18:24] <libpenguin> !info debtree > libpenguin
[18:24] <libpenguin> yea got it :)
[18:24] <mithran> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448148/
[18:25] <bekks> mithran: That looks very fine. Just like expected.
[18:25] <rollitup> escott: the recent_changes.log file is blank
[18:25] <mithran> bekks: ?
[18:25] <bekks> mithran: Your "system drive" is sda8, and it is mounted as /
[18:26] <mithran> bekks:  ok
[18:28] <mithran> bekks:  there i have foe partitions but i cant find them?
[18:28] <bekks> mithran: Then pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[18:28] <rollitup> escott: the output exceeds pastie and pastebin.org size limit
[18:28] <bekks> mithran: And "sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid" please.
[18:29] <daevski> escott, Any idea on these errors? This is what occurs when I plug in the external (usb) storage. :: http://imagebin.org/239848
[18:30] <daevski> escott, this one was in the closet :-\ not sure how I have so many bad drives!
[18:30] <mithran> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448158/
[18:31] <escott> rollitup, sorry yes. whatever the correct date should be
[18:31] <escott> rollitup, did you do a really big update
[18:32] <rollitup> yes it was i remember 350 mb approx
[18:32] <escott> daevski, if you were using fakeraid then you might need special setup to read the data
[18:33] <john__> l
[18:33] <daevski> escott, that one shouldn't be raided, MIght just be broken also. Strange.
[18:33] <mithran> bekks:  do you got it?
[18:33] <osse> I'm trying to determine the installation date of an ubuntu server I'm running. It has been upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 during its lifetime. Any advice on how to do it? I tried stat'ing various files in /etc but that's not reliable (i.e. ltrace.conf was supposedly last modified in 2009 which is clearly wrong as I first got it up and running sometime last dec-jan)
[18:34] <escott> rollitup, i did not see anything particularly nasty in that update
[18:34] <escott> rollitup, but i did only see the last bit of it
[18:34] <drPoo> how does one add an application to the "open with another application" menu on 12.10???
[18:34] <Walther> What is the package that causes Firefox to ask "Install x to get better.."
[18:34] <rollitup> so do u think i should keep hopes or getting this sorted or formatting and doing it all over again is the only option
[18:35] <Walther> I'd like to remove that "feature"; I don't want to install Launchpad/Gmail/any integration
[18:35] <escott> osse, head /var/log/ANYTHING
[18:35] <mithran> i  cannot find the system drives just only see the file system:(
[18:36] <drPoo> how does one add an application to the "open with another application" menu on 12.10???
[18:36] <escott> rollitup, i dont know what you upgraded so i cant really say. if you had a failed upgrade i would apt-get -f install within a chroot
[18:37] <rollitup> you mean i could use this command using the terminal from the live USB ?
[18:37] <bekks> mithran: That werent the commands I told you.
[18:37] <bekks> mithran: Pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[18:37] <bekks> mithran: And "sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid" please.
[18:38] <escott> rollitup, within the chroot yes
[18:39] <mithran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448171/
[18:39] <rollitup> escott:  i used chroot apt-get -f installand it outputs chroot:: cannot change root diretory to apt-get: No such file or directory
[18:40] <escott> rollitup, that whole thing with the mount and the mount --bind etc. you would have to redo it
[18:41] <osse> escott: I found some logs in /var/log/installer. All have the same modify date, Feb 2. I think that might be right
[18:42] <mithran> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448174/
[18:42] <clear`> anyone have any recommendation for business software, i need to keep up with clients, invoices and payments
[18:42] <daevski> escott, I think I got it. I used a brand new drive, used fdisk to create partition, mkfs.ntfs on it now for windows to be able to read the files I copy over. That sound about right?
[18:44] <rollitup> escott: in the process of rebooting i lost the chat transcript for the --bind command to chroot
[18:44] <escott> clear`, lwn.net has written a number of articles on the financial accounting aspect of that
[18:44] <escott> !logs | rollitup
[18:44] <escott> !chroot | rollitup
[18:45] <escott> daevski, sure... not sure what your goal is but that sounds fine
[18:45] <mithran> bekks: ?
[18:45] <g0th> hi
[18:45] <sfdsfd> I cannot find a certain answer as to I need to format a USB drive in order to use it for Ubuntu installation.
[18:45] <g0th> after I ran an update the flashplugin doesn't seem to work anymore
[18:45] <daevski> escott, Just trying to backup files that window will be able to read. Thanks again.
[18:45] <Cyberburn> hi g0th
[18:45] <malrog> Hi im trying to install hitman blood money with wine but i get an error when it tries to install and it stops anybody know what can be the problem?
[18:46] <g0th> When I open a site it is loading forever but I just see a black screen
[18:46] <g0th> I run ubuntu precise
[18:46] <sfdsfd> I have a 1 TB HDD, so would my other files still be there during and after the installation?
[18:46] <rollitup> !chroot | rollitup
[18:47] <g0th> also, isn't there already a new release out for a while?
[18:47] <g0th> I doesn't show up in the update manager!
[18:48] <rollitup> !logs | rollitup
[18:49] <sw0rdfish> how can I install the suggested packages along with what I want
[18:49] <sw0rdfish> there's tons of them
[18:49] <mithran> i  cannot find the system drives just only see the file system:(
[18:49] <bekks> mithran: Where is "sudo fdisk -l"?
[18:49] <llutz> sw0rdfish: if you really want that, use apt-get --install-suggests
[18:50] <IdleOne> sw0rdfish: sudo apt-get install --install-suggests package
[18:50] <sw0rdfish> yeah I just saw that in the manual guys thanks :D
[18:50] <IdleOne> sw0rdfish: but they are suggested, not absolutely needed, if they were needed they would get installed
[18:50] <Catbuntu> Hi
[18:50] <mithran> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448190/
[18:51] <mithran> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448190/
[18:51] <dr_willis> mithran: try mounting them by hand
[18:51] <nashant> how do you edit grub2 entries via terminal?
[18:51] <bekks> mithran: Everything is fine. sda1, sda5 and sda6 are NTFS partitions of your Windows.
[18:51] <sw0rdfish> they're mostly docs... IdleOne and autoconf whatever it is
[18:52] <mithran> dr_willis: i can't even find in my nautilus
[18:52] <dr_willis> nashant: edit the files in /etc/grub.d
[18:52] <dr_willis> mithran:  use the terminal
[18:52] <IdleOne> sw0rdfish: won't hurt if you install them. I was just saying :)
[18:52] <nashant> cheers dr_willis
[18:52] <dr_willis> !mount | mithran
[18:52] <mithran> dr_willis:  can you guid me?
[18:53] <dr_willis> mithran:  read the mount wiki guide firsy
[18:53] <mithran> dr_willis:  just "sudo !mount"
[18:53] <bekks> mithran: No. Thats not enough.
[18:53] <dr_willis> READ what the bot said
[18:54] <mithran> bekks:  then ?
[18:54] <bekks> mithran: Read what the bot said.
[18:54]  * dr_willis spends time writing docs.... no one reads...
[18:55] <dr_willis> mounting filesystems is a core linux skill/concept
[18:55] <msh> hello everybody
[18:56] <mithran> dr_willis: bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448199/
[18:56] <nashant> dr_willis: after editing the /etc/grub.d files do I need to do grub-update?
[18:56] <dr_willis> nashant:  always...
[18:56] <bekks> mithran: Read what the bot said.
[18:56] <bekks> mithran: You didnt read it until now.
[18:57] <msh> i want to know how could i change the theme in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:57] <nashant> dr_willis: I'm hoping you might be able to help with my issue. I'm using an integrated ati 6530d and when I try and boot my display just goes blank and I get 'no signal'. Any idea why this would be?
[18:58] <dr_willis> msh theres some nice themes in different ppas and sites. like  webupd8
[18:59] <dr_willis> nashant:  grub menu using a res not supported by the monitor.  set grub to use the basic  text menu. in /etz/ddefault/grub
[19:01] <sw0rdfish> IdleOne, thank you sir :D
[19:01] <sw0rdfish> I have your go... I am proceeding :)
[19:02] <vitimiti> o/
[19:02] <riply> hi guys, does anyone here have experiance with Virtualmin and are willing to look at a little issue I'm having, recreating a public_html folder?
[19:02] <nashant> dr_willis: to get the live usb to work I added 'nomodeset' to the grub options. Would adding this to 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT' in /etc/default/grub do the same?
[19:03] <mithran> bekks:  i can't find any useful commands....... i don't understand what it is saying
[19:04] <rollitup> escott: is the command to bind /dev $sudo mount --bind /dev /media/dev ?
[19:05] <bekks> mithran: Then try to explain what's unclear at the explanation right before the second command in the section "Mounting" please.
[19:05] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[19:05] <dr_willis> nashant: try it. i only need it untill i get the drivers install
[19:05] <ElixirVitae> How stable is post-release updates of Nvidia drivers?
[19:06] <escott> rollitup, if /media was where you mounted sda5
[19:07] <savr> what replaces unattended-upgrades in 12.10?
[19:08] <tofanbatam> you now kontol bro ??
[19:09] <mithran> bekks:  my filesystem is already mounted but i cant find the other partitions in my system
[19:09] <Guest4501> Harmy, need help?
[19:09] <rollitup> escott: it says mount': mount point /media/sda5/dev does not exist
[19:10] <bekks> mithran: That has nothing to do with the explanation right before the second command in the section named above.
[19:11] <bekks> mithran: So please explain what you dont understand in that section, for enabling us to actually help you.
[19:11] <mithran> bekks:  ok then what shall i do . can you please healp me?
[19:11] <escott> rollitup, i need to try and get some work done. /dev/sda5 is the device, when you mount it "mount /dev/sda5 /some/mountpoint" it attaches the filesystem inside the disk to that mountpoint. what you need to do next in the chroot is attach the existing /dev filesystem to the dev directory inside the mountpoint where your mounted /dev/sda5. so its "mount /dev/sda5 /someplace; mount --bind /dev /someplace/dev"
[19:11] <bekks> mithran: Then try to explain what's unclear at the explanation right before the second command in the section "Mounting" please.
[19:12] <fefe321> ciao
[19:12] <fefe321> chi mi aiuta
[19:12] <mithran>  there are for partitions in my system but there only shows the file system
[19:13] <Pici> !it | fefe321
[19:13] <mithran> bekks:  there are for partitions in my system but there only shows the file system
[19:14] <bekks> mithran: Ok, last try: explain what you dont understand at the section named above. Dont repeat things that have nothing to do with that please.
[19:14] <mithran> bekks: there is 350 GB of space is availiable in my system now it shows only 50 GB of the file system?
[19:15] <nashant> dr_willis: grub-update command not found
[19:15] <bekks> mithran: Ok. Very obviously you dont want to listen to people when asking things, nor you want to read and understand when people are trying to help you. That makes it impossible for me to help you. Good luck with your support issue, maybe someone else is more patient.
[19:15] <dr_willis> nashant:  perhaps because its 'update-grub'
[19:15] <nashant> yup
[19:16] <nashant> just realised that
[19:16] <dr_willis> ;)
[19:17] <savr> what replaces unattended-upgrades in 12.10?
[19:18] <Pici> savr: I see unattended-upgrades in 12.10
[19:18] <savr> hmmm
[19:18] <savr> ok... thanks
[19:18] <bekks> savr: It is available in quantal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/unattended-upgrades
[19:19] <benbro1> is there a tool for ubuntu that can help me create a video tutorial with text popup?
[19:19] <Pici> savr: I don't have a desktop install here, but apt shows it available as part of ubuntu-desktop (among other tasks)
[19:20] <Dark_Prince> Hello, I'm trying to set up a FTP server on my VPS with vsftpd, I can read files off it but I can't write in anyway, any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[19:20] <mithran> bekks: i can'understand what you are asking about . are you asking about the command given by the bot
[19:21] <bekks> Dark_Prince: You didnt allow write access in your config.
[19:22] <mithran> bekks: is it about this "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[19:22] <Dark_Prince> What setting am I looking at here?
[19:22] <Dark_Prince> I'm looking at the conf file for  it now
[19:22] <bekks> Dark_Prince: For the setting to enable any form of the write command, in first instance.
[19:22] <Dark_Prince> write_enable=YES is already set.
[19:23] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then whats the exact error message you get when trying to upload a file?
[19:23] <Dark_Prince> Response:	550 Delete operation failed.
[19:24] <mrguser> hello
[19:24] <mithran> anybody please help me i cannot mount my system partition voleums in my ubuntu 12.10
[19:24] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Does the user you are logged in with using ftp have the permissions to delete that file?
[19:25] <Dark_Prince> How would I check that? I think so its under its /home/ directory.
[19:25] <mithran> i only see the file system?
 homie, you can reinstall grub monitor
[19:25] <mithran> please help me :(
[19:25] <fenix709> ciao
[19:25] <sgt_hagger> Hey guys. On KDE is there anything like the integration of banshee? I am really liking KDE but I miss the banshee integration. I would like to be able to quickly search my music and play it
[19:25] <bekks> Dark_Prince: By using ls -lha
 homie, would you like a link
[19:25] <mrguser> ?
[19:25] <IdleOne> sgt_hagger: Amarok
[19:26] <fenix709> !list
[19:26] <kostkon> sgt_hagger, amarok?
[19:26] <Dark_Prince> They're all root.
[19:26] <dr_willis> 'system partition volumes' dosent make much sence mithran
[19:26] <bekks> Dark_Prince: So which file in particular do you want to delete?
[19:26] <kostkon> sgt_hagger, amarok is a beast though
[19:27] <Dark_Prince> In general I more want to be able to backup files and restore them.
[19:27] <sgt_hagger> yeah but what I want is something like Unity has. I don't need to open my music player in unity. All I do is press super + m then type a few letters from the song I want and normally it is there. get what I mean?
[19:27] <Dark_Prince> Or upload new server files.
[19:28] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then please just answer my question.
[19:28] <mithran> dr_willis: my hard disk partition is not mounting or showing but i can see my pendrive
[19:28] <Dark_Prince> Well that would be the entire /server directory.
[19:28] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Some seconds ago it was /home - so please decide which it is :)
[19:28] <mrguser> mithran , would you like a link ?
[19:29] <dr_willis> mithran:  so try to mount it with the proper mount command and look for errors
[19:29] <mithran> mrguser:  means
[19:29] <Dark_Prince> Well I need to be able to write to any files under /home/DP/
[19:29] <Dark_Prince> Which currently only includes server_files
[19:29] <bekks> Dark_Prince: And you are logged in as "DP" using ftp ?
[19:29] <Dark_Prince> Yes.
[19:29] <mrguser> yes
[19:29] <Dark_Prince> Well.
[19:29] <Dark_Prince> I'm accessing it over ssh.
[19:30] <kostkon> sgt_hagger, maybe there is an amarok plasma widget or something
[19:30] <fizyplankton> how can i burn an iso file thru command line?
[19:30] <bekks> Dark_Prince: ssh has nothing to do with ftp so far.
[19:30] <mrguser> Dark prince, you can connect iy
[19:30] <Dark_Prince> The user doesn't have a password so I just put in a random one because it wouldn't let me have nothing.
[19:30] <kostkon> sgt_hagger, or an mpris one. that would be even better
[19:30] <Dark_Prince> That might be the problem
[19:30] <bekks> Dark_Prince: No.
[19:30] <escott> !info wodim | fizyplankton
[19:31] <bekks> Dark_Prince: As long as you remembered that password and used it for logging in using ftp, that cant be the problem.
[19:31] <jake> Hai
[19:31] <Dark_Prince> When i created the user I didn't set one.
[19:31] <Dark_Prince> There is no password.
[19:31] <mithran> dr_willis: i can see the home icon in my panel if i opened this the i can see the home, file syste, pendrive
[19:31] <sgt_hagger> Okay thanks
[19:31] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then you cant be logged in as that user using ftp.
[19:32] <Dark_Prince> So how do I set a password for a user over ssh.
[19:32] <mithran> dr_willis: there are no other voluem
[19:32] <bekks> Dark_Prince: By using "passwd".
[19:32] <dr_willis> mithran:  so try to mount it with the proper mount command IN THE TERMINAL and look for errors
[19:32] <Mongolski> hej
[19:32] <dr_willis> mithran:  check with 'sudo blkid'
[19:33] <mithran> dr_willis:  i will chk and come back
[19:33] <BrainPaid> JCuber, I want to see you, homie!
[19:33] <BrainPaid> JCuber, I want to see you, homie!
[19:33] <BrainPaid> JCuber, I want to see you, homie!
[19:33] <FloodBot1> BrainPaid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <mithran> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448308/
[19:34] <Dark_Prince> err Whats the syntax for passwd?
[19:34] <nashant> dr_willis, escott: Thanks for your help. All up and running :)
[19:34] <escott> nashant, how did you get past the purple screen (haven't been watching the conversation but im curious)
[19:35] <escott> Dark_Prince, passwd [username]
[19:35] <bekks> Dark_Prince: "passwd". It will ask you for your old password, and twice for your new one. Since you dont have an old one, you have to use "passwd DP" as root to set the password for DP as root.
[19:35] <dr_willis> mithran:  and as you can see.. that lists all lnown fileststems on your system..   mount the ones you want
[19:36] <BrainPaid> homies, I want to connect webchat.freenode.net on mIRC. I want to your's help's, please :(
[19:36] <nashant> escott: had to edit /etc/default/grub, add nomodeset to the options and run update-grub
[19:36] <BrainPaid> My mIRC is not connect webchat.freenode.net :(
[19:37] <escott> nashant, oh ok
[19:37] <IdleOne> BrainPaid: webchat runs in a browser.
[19:37] <bekks> BrainPaid: Either use webchat.freenode.net with browser or use irc.freenode.net with mIRC.
[19:37] <veryhappy> hi guys, need your help, do i have to make a boot partition when i want to be able to change the booting distribution in windows over programs that are able to access ext3? i want to be able to change it even under windows, my system would be a dual boot system
[19:37] <Dark_Prince> Still not working. Can't write at all despite having added a password.
[19:37] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then log in using ftp now - using your new passwd.
[19:37] <Dark_Prince> I did.
[19:37] <BrainPaid> IdleOne, bekhs; homies, I'm using a mobile phone now.
[19:38] <Dark_Prince> Still no write access.
[19:38] <Dark_Prince> Only read.
[19:38] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then which permissions does /home/DP has?
[19:38] <IdleOne> BrainPaid: and?
[19:38] <mithran> dr_willis:  can ou help me ihow to mount               /dev/sda5: LABEL="New Volume" UUID="30849EC4849E8BCA" TYPE="ntfs"
[19:38] <dr_willis> mithran:  you mount sda5 whever you want.
[19:38] <Dark_Prince> How do I set them / check them?
[19:38] <BrainPaid> I'm not use a web browser on my mobile phone
[19:38] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g  | mithran
[19:38] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Again with using ls -lha
[19:38] <IdleOne> BrainPaid: mIRC has a mobile client for phones?
[19:38] <BrainPaid> Opera Mobile is enough?
[19:39] <dr_willis> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdXX /media/make-a-directory-first
[19:39] <IdleOne> BrainPaid: yes.
[19:39] <Pici> BrainPaid: If you're looking for freenode help, #freenode is the best place to ask.  #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:39] <nashant> escott: Yeah, and remove nomodeset after installing the proper drivers (I'm still waiting to do a reboot after a full system update)
[19:39] <BrainPaid> No, mIRGGI is mobile IRC client for Symbian
[19:39] <Dark_Prince> all the files have root next to them
[19:40] <BrainPaid> I'm using E63, like s60v3
[19:40] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Pastebin the output of "ls -lha /home/" please.
[19:40] <IdleOne> BrainPaid: so point it to irc.freenode.net and #freenode for more help like Pici said
[19:40] <bekks> !pastebin | Dark_Prince
[19:40] <BrainPaid> I will try webchat.freenode.net with Opera Mobile, thank homies. And IdleOne, I will try your's sayings,too.
[19:41] <IdleOne> welcome
[19:41] <Dark_Prince> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448320/
[19:42] <daftykins> Dark_Prince: you're trying to change that folder and that .tar.gz to write permissions for the user?
[19:42] <mithran> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448327/    i shows like this
[19:42] <Dark_Prince> Yep.
[19:42] <Dark_Prince> Pretty much
[19:43] <goddard> can i make paid gedit plugins?
[19:43] <mithran> dr_willis:  it shows like this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448327/
[19:43] <daftykins> Dark_Prince: chmod 766 -r *
[19:43] <Dark_Prince> * being the users name?
[19:44] <dr_willis> mithran:  !commands are BOT commands in the channel.. NOT for you to type in  the shell.. READ what the bot says when someone triggers it with the various !commands
[19:44] <daftykins> nope, being *
[19:44] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g  | mithran  READ THE URL
[19:45] <mithran> ok ha ha ha :)
[19:45] <viju> Hi
[19:46] <viju> quite a noob  at this , glad if somebody help me with this
[19:46] <veryhappy> bekks: hi bekks, need your help, do i have to make a boot partition when i want to be able to change the booting distribution in windows over programs that are able to access ext3? i want to be able to change it even under windows, my system would be a dual boot system
[19:46] <nashant> dr_willis: would leaving the 'nomodeset' option in with the proprietary drivers installed cause it to hang while booting?
[19:46] <Dark_Prince> daftykins "chmod: cannot access `766': No such file or directory "
[19:47] <viju> my OS is 32 bit , why it didn't install as 64 bit when I have 64 bit machine?
[19:47] <dr_willis> nashant:  i never tried..  its fairly easy to remove
[19:47] <daftykins> Dark_Prince: ah, fail on my part - "chmod 760 -r *"
[19:47] <dr_willis> viju:  did you download the 64bit iso?
[19:47] <nashant> dr_willis: I know, I just forgot and am a little worried that something's not working again
[19:47] <viju> there was no 64 bit iso. is there one?
[19:48] <Dark_Prince> Same thing execpt 750
[19:48] <dr_willis> viju:  yes there is
[19:48] <Dark_Prince> 560*
[19:48] <fantasma> viju: yes. There is a dropdown menue where you can choose the 64 bit version
[19:48] <Dark_Prince> 760*
[19:48] <viju> dr_willis, okay I have one more question , how to see if my machine is 64 bit or not?
[19:49] <viju> I see fantasma
[19:49] <daftykins> Dark_Prince: nm seems i can't remember proper terminology =\
[19:49] <nashant> dr_willis: proprietary drivers installed and nomodeset seems to have disappeared from grub. It hangs on the purple screen when booting
[19:49] <fantasma> viju: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[19:49] <fantasma> "choose your flavour"
[19:51] <nashant> dr_willis: nomodeset added again and it's working. Any disadvantages in using it?
[19:51] <bekks> Dark_Prince: You dont have permissions to delete/modify those files as "DP".
[19:51] <bekks> Dark_Prince: So you have to change the permissions on those files.
[19:51] <Dark_Prince> bekks How do I do that?
[19:51] <bekks> !permissions | Dark_Prince
[19:52] <viju> thanks fantasma
[19:55] <ahmeedsoefiyan> im new on ubuntu
[19:56] <dr_willis> se days.
[19:56] <dr_willis> nashant: i dint even need nomodeset at all these days
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> ahmeedsoefiyan  welcome then
[19:57] <ViaNocturna85> hey there, anyone know if there are any bugs regarding fan control?
[19:58] <ahmeedsoefiyan> MonkeyDust Thank's :)
[20:01] <nashant> dr_willis: well it's working so I'll leave it there. I have a new problem! It's beeping at me, then sounds like one of my discs is being accessed
[20:01] <ahmeedsoefiyan> how to use wireshark on ubuntu ?
[20:02] <TomyLobo> apt-get install wireshark i presume
[20:02] <bekks> ahmeedsoefiyan: Just the same way as on other distributions and even other OS.
[20:03] <ahmeedsoefiyan> i can't .. "there are no interfaces on which a capture can be done."
[20:04] <ahmeedsoefiyan> bekks what the problem there is
[20:04] <bekks> ahmeedsoefiyan: Because you have to have root privileges to capture packets.
[20:05] <ahmeedsoefiyan> bekks : How?
[20:07] <Blinkiz> Hi. I have a Samsung NX210 digital camera with a 64GB sd-card inside. The camera can read the card fine but when I plug it into my card reader, I get "sde: unknown partition table". So what file system is it normally on these cameras?
[20:07] <nashant> Anyone able to suggest why my system beeps at me for about 2 mins very frequently as soon as I boot up, then after that just very occasionally beeps at me and makes what I think it an HDD access sound
[20:08] <clear`> nashant: you need to write down the beeps, go to your motherboard manufacture and figure out what the error is
[20:08] <Dark_Prince> bekks Set permissions but now I get 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[20:12] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Then what did you do exactly for chaning permissions?
[20:12] <nashant> clear`: Got errors with a disk it looks like. gsmartcontrol is showing 318 errors in the log for one of them
[20:13] <Dark_Prince> added DP and root to a group called FTP
[20:13] <bekks> Dark_Prince: And...?
[20:13] <Dark_Prince> and changed the group for that directory to ftp
[20:13] <Dark_Prince> Then set read write and executable permissions to group
[20:13] <bekks> Dark_Prince: OUCH.
[20:14] <bekks> Dark_Prince: You set the permissions to _world_-writeable, not to group-writable, did you?
[20:14] <bekks> Dark_Prince: And I am asking for the specific commands you used.
[20:14] <Dark_Prince> chmod g+rwx
[20:15] <bekks> Dark_Prince: That ONE of a bunch of commands.
[20:15] <Dark_Prince> Yep.
[20:16] <Dark_Prince> chmod g+rwx /home/DP
[20:16] <bekks> Dark_Prince: Thats still one ONE of bunch of commands. Use a pastebin to show them all please.
[20:18] <Dark_Prince> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448404/
[20:19] <TomyLobo> root-owned home folders *shrug*
[20:20] <theadmin> Dark_Prince: Something's wrong, why is /home/DP owned by root?
[20:20] <Dark_Prince> No idea.
[20:20] <theadmin> And why does your system allow uppercase usernames?
[20:20] <Dark_Prince> I made the directory as root?
[20:20] <TomyLobo> is that even a user folder?
[20:20] <TomyLobo> is DP even a user?
[20:20] <Dark_Prince> That I really have no idea.
[20:20] <Dark_Prince> Yup.
[20:21] <theadmin> Dark_Prince: In the future, use "adduser" to add new users
[20:21] <Dark_Prince> I did that.
[20:21] <theadmin> It makes home directories and stuff itself
[20:21] <theadmin> Dark_Prince: Either way: sudo chown -R DP:ftp /home/DP
[20:22] <poq> Hi all. Why is self-written gtk app looks like windows 2000? Lubuntu 12.04 http://tau.rghost.ru/private/42347095/ed87dc7599a4d70c354a1b23ffaceaaa/image.png
[20:22] <TomyLobo> poq i dont speak russian... what is that window?
[20:22] <Necrosporus> Where can I download ubuntu for android?
[20:22] <Necrosporus> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[20:23] <Necrosporus> There is no download link, as far as I concerned
[20:23] <theadmin> poq: I suppose you didn't set it to use themable widgets.
[20:23] <Necrosporus> TomyLobo, what window?
[20:23] <DJones> Necrosporus: You can't yet, its a concept thats being looked into
[20:23] <Pici> Necrosporus: Its still  a work in progress.
[20:23] <TomyLobo> Necrosporus are you poq?
[20:23] <TomyLobo> "Ready to talk? We're ready to work with you now, so if you have plans for Android devices that could benefit from a little added Ubuntu, let us know."
[20:24] <poq> TomyLobo: on left side is my application, right side Lubuntu's lxappearance tool with Clearlooks selected theme but my app doesn't looks like lxappearance
[20:24] <poq> TomyLobo: no, I don't know Necrosporus...
[20:24] <Necrosporus> TomyLobo, I'm not, but it doesn't mean I can't take a look
[20:24] <theadmin> poq: Again, GTK requires widgets to be themable in order for this to work.
[20:24] <wachpwnski> How can I run a python program as a service?
[20:25] <TomyLobo> what can i say? gtk sucks visually :P
[20:25] <poq> theadmin: how can I do that?
[20:25] <TomyLobo> until now i thought it wasn't that bad on linux though
[20:25] <Necrosporus> wachpwnski, run it in background?
[20:25] <theadmin> wachpwnski: Eh, echo "exec python /path/to/program" | sudo tee /etc/init/myservice.conf
[20:25] <Dark_Prince> theadmin: Ok done that, now if I understand this I need to remove root from the group ftp.
[20:25] <Dark_Prince> How do I do that?
[20:25] <Necrosporus> theadmin, it will rewrite whole file
[20:26] <wachpwnski> Necrosporus:  I want to run my program like this:   sudo service my-program start
[20:26] <theadmin> Dark_Prince: sudo gpasswd -d root ftp
[20:26] <Necrosporus> maybe you need append option for tee?
[20:26] <theadmin> Necrosporus: Right, but there normally is no sane daemon called "myservice"
[20:26] <theadmin> So... that works
[20:26] <Necrosporus> wachpwnski, maybe command above should work
[20:28] <Guest26863> certain graphical apps run terribly slow; ubuntu 10.04 hp-2133 mini, could u help?
[20:28] <Dark_Prince> Hmm still 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[20:29] <NetJunky88> Good evening!
[20:29] <emr> Hello, i have to work with ms-sql, is there any way to dump data like mysql?
[20:30] <Pici> emr: On Ubuntu?
[20:30] <wachpwnski> theadmin, Necrosporus: thanks guys, that's what I needed
[20:30] <emr> Pici yes
[20:30] <Guest26863> not sure if there is a graphical work-r-rnd
[20:31] <Pici> emr: How are you connecting?
[20:32] <emr> Pici, i dont have connection yet:)
[20:32] <NetJunky88> Guys, I'm working on Windows and I use Oracle Virtual Box, to run Ubuntu Server. I need to set static ip address, but I completely forgot how to set it up.
[20:32] <Dark_Prince> theadmin: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() Any idea?
[20:32] <Guest26863> certain graphical apps run terribly slow; ubuntu 10.04 hp-2133 mini, could u help?
[20:32] <theadmin> Dark_Prince: I'd rather stay away from FTP if I were you, but eh... Not really sure what it wants
[20:34] <jbwiv> does anyone else find radeon support on 12.10 to be really slow? I know that there were problems with radeon 2xxx,3xxx, and 4xxx, but I'm on 6xxx with fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates and things just drag...
[20:34] <Pici> emr: You'll need to figure that out first then.  Depending on what you want to do, an ODBC connection might suffice.
[20:34] <theadmin> jbwiv: I found fglrx to be generally slow for everything except wine :/
[20:35] <jbwiv> theadmin, what was your work around? Are you using the oss drivers?
[20:35] <emr> Pici i want to dump data first, is it possible with linux terminal?
[20:35] <bekks> emr: ms-sql is not able to run on Ubuntu at all.
[20:35] <TomyLobo> NetJunky88 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-configure-a-static-ip-address-tutorial/ first hit on google
[20:36] <emr> bekks, i know, its already remote server
[20:36] <Pici> emr: The sqsh package looks like it can connect to mssql databases, but I've never used it myself.
[20:36] <Pici> !info sqsh
[20:36] <emr> ohh Pici thank you trying and reporting too u, thnx:)
[20:37] <Guest26863> not sure if anyone read my question?
[20:37] <NetJunky88> @TomyLobo: yes, if seen this example all around internet. Problem is, that I'm not sure about what addresses should set in "/etc/network/interface"
[20:39] <Guest26863> work manly on terminal, not sure what to do about graphical issues
[20:41] <Guest26863> certain graphical apps run terribly slow; ubuntu 10.04 hp-2133 mini 1.2 GHZ, 1G RAM, could u help?
[20:41] <NetJunky88> @TomyLobo: you see, I've did it long ago. My latest Ubuntu server was 10.10 I think, so you have an idea how long ago and since this is not day-to-day operation I forgot where from VirtualBox should I take those addresses and which belongs where.
[20:42] <guntbert> Guest26863: it helps if you keep your statement in one line, so it doesn't get spread across a whole page - and make a complete sentence of it :)
[20:42] <BrainPaid> HOMIE!? JCUBER!? WHAT ARE U DOING? ARE YOU HERE! :(
[20:42] <BrainPaid> HOMIE!? JCUBER!? WHAT ARE U DOING? ARE YOU HERE! :(
[20:42] <FloodBot1> BrainPaid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <Guest26863> I'm new at this; i'm not sure how it works; do u mean i should write a longer descrition of the problem?
[20:45] <ikonia> Guest26863: just explain the problem and what you need help with
[20:45] <ikonia> Guest26863: as much/little information as you feel needed to get help
[20:46] <Pici> Guest26863: Preferably on one line.
[20:48] <jbwiv> theadmin, did you find a way to fix it or have you switched cards?
[20:48] <theadmin> jbwiv: Well, I use the opensource drivers, they work for me
[20:49] <jbwiv> theadmin, how many monitors? I need to support three
[20:49] <theadmin> jbwiv: I have one, sorry
[20:50] <jbwiv> theadmin, k, thx
[20:50] <alice__> hello
[20:50] <theadmin> jbwiv: Did you have it work before?
[20:50] <alice__> i need help with compiling driver for wireless adapter...anyone can help?
[20:51] <BrainFree> alice, your wireless adapter's mark ?
[20:51] <jbwiv> theadmin, on 12.04, yes. but it's slow on 12.10
[20:51] <jbwiv> it works, but really slow
[20:51] <BrainFree> realtek?
[20:51] <alice__> airlive..
[20:51] <theadmin> ...wut is that
[20:51] <BrainFree> Hmmm
[20:51] <alice__> i have driver but when i get to step ./configure it says that that file doesnt exsist
[20:52] <BrainFree> I think, driver's recommended
[20:52] <Guest26863> i have several graphical apps and games that run terribly slow; i'm using ubuntu 10.04 on an hp-2133 mini, with a 1.2 GHZ processor and 1G RAM; it's only graphical sftwr such as Minecraft that run so slow u have to wait minutes for the mouse cursor to move
[20:52] <guntbert> Guest26863: don't worry. A "line" is what you create by presing <enter> only when your statement is complete :)
[20:52] <guntbert> *pressing
[20:52] <fulcan> does anyone have a smb.conf they could share?
[20:53] <bekks> fulcan: How would that help you (solving your problem)?
[20:53] <theadmin> fulcan: Well, I could give you the default one
[20:53] <Alexx_> Hey guy, I'm trying to forward the port 1521 to a virtual machine so I did "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i br0 -d 188.***.215.*** --dport 1521 -j DNAT --to 10.0.45.100:1521" but it's not working any ideas why?
[20:53] <fulcan> theadmin please!
[20:53] <bekks> Alexx_: Do you use NAT for the vm?
[20:53] <bekks> Alexx_: (in vbox)
[20:53] <theadmin> fulcan: http://sprunge.us/DFIg
[20:54] <fulcan> theadmin thank you!
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> Alexx_  in the vbox settings, change NAT to bridged
[20:54] <BrainFree> Is administrator here?
[20:54] <bekks> Alexx_: Or use the vbox port forwarding engine.
[20:54] <Alexx_> bekks: MonkeyDust : in fac i'm using bridged
[20:55] <Alexx_> And i'm using kvm
[20:55] <daniear> hey
[20:55] <alice__> brainFree can you help me?
[20:55] <daniear> just installed fail2ban, can any1 try to ssh in to see if it works
[20:55] <bekks> Alexx_: So it has nothing to do with vbox.
[20:55] <Guest26863> a game called glest is another example; was my first line long enough?
[20:55] <theadmin> daniear: I could, I guess...
[20:56] <daniear> thanks, im ircing from the ip
[20:56] <fulcan> what is up with samba? I am using a default config file??  http://pastie.org/5549228
[20:56] <daniear> should block after 3 attemps if working
[20:56] <bekks> fulcan: You are using samba4 with a samba3 config file.
[20:56] <Guest26863> guntbert r u still there?
[20:57] <luckyass> hi
[20:57] <alice__> i have problem with compiling airlive driver for wireless adapter...anyone can help pls?
[20:57] <Pici> BrainFree: yes?
[20:57] <theadmin> daniear: Yes, seems to be working
[20:57] <BrainFree> alice??
[20:57] <luckyass> what is the ubuntu support channel. any1?
[20:57] <DzoCrnaNula> Hello, I'm having problems with HUD on my Ubuntu 12.10. It dose not display any options when i press alt key. Whatever I type circle starts spinning and after few sec it stops.
[20:57] <theadmin> luckyass: This one.
[20:57] <guntbert> Guest26863: yes, your statement seems clear - only I cannot help, sorry
[20:57] <fulcan> bekks theadmin sent it to me, not sure. do you have a samba4?
[20:57] <daniear> thanks, see you in iptables
[20:57] <BrainFree> my IRC client is corrupt :(
[20:57] <bekks> fulcan: I am not using samba at all.
[20:57] <fulcan> theadmin was that samba4?
[20:57] <BrainFree> I can't make 1-1 querie
[20:58] <bekks> BrainFree: How do you try to do so?
[20:58] <luckyass> can someone explain to me when i type /join #ubuntu from another channel. it joins me in a channel with myself but if i select it from the network list in xchat it show all of you guys?
[20:58] <theadmin> fulcan: I think not
[20:58] <BrainFree> Alice? Sorry, we can speak these
[20:58] <Guest26863> guntbert: how do i enlist the help of some others?
[20:58] <Pici> luckyass: likely that other channel isn't on this network (freenode)
[20:58] <alice__> BrainFree yes? can you help?
[20:59] <BrainFree> yes alica
[20:59] <BrainFree> These place.
[20:59] <alice__> ok
[20:59] <BrainFree> I cant make 1-1 querie
[20:59] <syphon14> my browser wont play videos on youtube
[20:59] <BrainFree> My IRC client is corrupt, sorry.
[20:59] <alice__> ok let's do it here...
[20:59] <guntbert> Guest26863: you just state your problem - like you did, then you wait some time (about 10 minutes or so), if you don't get an answer then you repeat your question
[20:59] <alice__> when i do step ./cofigure it says that there is no such file or dir
[20:59] <syphon14> my browser wont play videos on youtube can anyone help
[21:00] <theadmin> syphon14: Do you have Flash?
[21:00] <BrainFree> Drivers are required but airties drivers are support them, I think
[21:00] <luckyass> pici how do i change the network also? is there another like /join for it?
[21:00] <syphon14> yes
[21:00] <theadmin> luckyass: /connect or /server depending on the client
[21:00] <BrainFree> ./configure?
[21:00] <Guest26863> anyone: i have several graphical apps and games that run terribly slow; i'm using ubuntu 10.04 on an hp-2133 mini, with a 1.2 GHZ processor and 1G RAM; it's only graphical sftwr such as Minecraft that run so slow u have to wait minutes for the mouse cursor to move
[21:00] <alice__> yes when compiling tar.gz driver file
[21:00] <luckyass> ok thanks i will just pay more attention next time
[21:00] <BrainFree> Oh..
[21:00] <DzoCrnaNula> Hello, I'm having problems with HUD on my Ubuntu 12.10. It dose not display any options when i press alt key. Whatever I type circle starts spinning and after few sec it stops. Can anyone help?
[21:00] <BrainFree> Linux drivers are there?
[21:01] <Guest26863> guntbert: thank u for ur advice
[21:01] <anonymous_> anyone kown hack wifi
[21:01] <alice__> yes
[21:01] <alice__> but tar.gz file
[21:01] <BrainFree> Try to install them, can you?
[21:01] <TomyLobo> anonymous_ lol
[21:01] <alice__> how?
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  is it legal?
[21:01] <guntbert> !u | Guest26863
[21:01] <Pici> anonymous_: you're in the wrong place, again.
[21:01] <alice__> btw. i use xubuntu
[21:01] <BrainFree> yes tar.gz is installable
[21:01] <anonymous_> anyone kown hack wifi
[21:01] <BrainFree> You're extract tar.gz's files
[21:01] <BrainFree> And run install.sh
[21:02] <alice__> i don't have install.sh
[21:02] <BrainFree> hmm
[21:02] <TomyLobo> i like force-part. throws off most auto-rejoiners :)
[21:02] <Guest28483> LMFAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Joxoi8Z0s6k#at=35
[21:02] <BrainFree> Term?
[21:02] <theadmin> BrainFree: ...a tarball is just an archive, it mustn't have any specific file
[21:02] <Pici> Guest28483: Please do not post random links here.
[21:02] <Guest28483> i couldnt stop laughing
[21:02] <Guest28483> sorry
[21:03] <alice__> what with term?
[21:03] <BrainFree> You can bring tar file tp terminal window
[21:03] <theg> Hi, I'm having some trouble installiing Wine, the forum admins there told me to come here, can someone help please? The terminal output is here: http://pastebin.com/MBTafena
[21:03] <alice__> command pls, i'm beginner with linux
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> theg  remove the ppa, then type sudo apt-get install wine
[21:04] <Guest26863> guntbert: did not mean to offend
[21:04] <BrainFree> I'm too.
[21:04] <BrainFree> I'm newbie but I now
[21:04] <theadmin> theg: You shouldn't have added the repository, wine is in the Ubuntu's repos
[21:04] <MicW> hi
[21:04] <theg> ok, how do I remove it? is it remove-apt-repository?
[21:04] <BrainFree> Alice you can bring tar file to terminal window.
[21:05] <BrainFree> It's began install
[21:05] <theadmin> theg: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*ubuntu-wine* && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[21:05] <MicW> i try to netboot ubuntu from nfs. i installed it via debotstrap in a chroot, installed a kernel and created a ramdisk
[21:05] <alice__> how to bring it? can you give me what command i need to write in terminal
[21:05] <nashant> Alright guys. I'm having a display issue. when I try and boot it hangs at the first purple screen. Every time I boot a live usb session and chroot in to the installed env, then update-grub, it works again until I reboot. And ideas?
[21:05] <bekks> BrainFree: What do you mean by "bring a tar file to terminal"?
[21:05] <guntbert> theg: and whats that debian repository doing?
[21:05] <MicW> booting via pxe works
[21:05] <BrainFree> my english is too bad :D
[21:05] <MicW> up to the point where the display resolution is switched
[21:05] <alice__> main too
[21:05] <fulcan> how in the heck do I get past this? http://pastie.org/5549270
[21:05] <BrainFree> Wait, I using the google translate
[21:05] <daniear> stfu fulcan
[21:06] <MicW> thenit ends with a blank screen and a blinking cursor
[21:06] <islandmonkey> Hello people, Ubuntu isn't wanting to load today. All my computer does is load up the grub menu automatically (which it shouldn't), load Ubuntu with a black screen (with the flickering white thing you see in consoles), accelarates the fan and then shuts down. Help?
[21:06] <MicW> seems to wait for something
[21:06] <bekks> !language | daniear
[21:06] <theadmin> BrainFree: Please do not give advice without knowing things :/ "bringing" a tar file to the terminal would only paste the path to it max, not "install" it at all
[21:06] <guntbert> daniear: stay nice please
[21:06] <daniear> an abreviation isn't bad language
[21:06] <fulcan> daniear excuse you?
[21:06] <theg> I ran that command, theadmin, but there is the same terminal output
[21:06] <guntbert> daniear: don't argue - stop that
[21:07] <islandmonkey> BTW, I have to wait >1min for anything to happen
[21:07] <BrainFree> alice, you can drag and drop the tar file to terminal window. It will be install.
[21:07] <bekks> BrainFree: Which is not true at all.
[21:07] <bekks> alice__: Dont listen to him.
[21:07] <daniear> or what guntbert
[21:07] <BrainFree> Bekks, I'm sorry I am a backtrack user I'm newbie
[21:08] <BrainFree> I can lnstall tar files on backtack 5
[21:08] <BrainFree> In this way
[21:08] <Guest26863> anyone: i have several graphical applications and games that run terribly slow; i'm using ubuntu 10.04 on an hp-2133 mini, with a 1.2 GHZ processor and 1G RAM; it's only graphical sftwr, such as: Minecraft; that run so slow you have to wait minutes for the mouse cursor to move|please help
[21:08] <alice__> it's tar.gz file and i have xubuntu
[21:08] <bekks> BrainFree: Most likely a tar file just contains source code which has to be compiled prior installing.
[21:09] <Tech-1> 1.2g processor with 1 gig of ram wont get you very far
[21:09] <nashant> dr_willis: still about?
[21:09] <BrainFree> bekks, can you help alice?
[21:09] <islandmonkey> Guest2686: Well with a 1.2GHz CPU Minecraft will be slow.
[21:09] <nashant> dr_willis: I'm still having a display issue. when I try and boot it hangs at the first purple screen. Every time I boot a live usb session and chroot in to the installed env, then update-grub, it works again until I reboot. And ideas?
[21:09] <Tech-1> gamers know this, why they ask is beyond me
[21:09] <theg> theadmin - any other ideas?
[21:09] <BrainFree> alice, I'm soryy :( :( bekks please help to alice ??
[21:10] <alice__> BrainFree it's ok ;) at least you tried
[21:10] <dr_willis> nashant: totally disable plymouth so you can see any error messages perhaps
[21:10] <BrainFree> alice cannot install airlive drivers
[21:10] <maujhsn> Can anyone tell me if the ubuntu forum is in spanish?
[21:10] <BrainFree> Bekks?
[21:10] <nashant> dr_willis: ho do I do that?
[21:10] <BrainFree> Would you like help allce?
[21:10] <alice__> he's gone
[21:10] <BrainFree> Oh, bekks! You're selfish!
[21:10] <BrainFree> :(
[21:11] <BrainFree> alice :( I'm sorry
[21:11] <alice__> it's ok, i'll try to find help somewhere else
[21:11] <alice__> bye
[21:11] <dr_willis> !plymouth
[21:11] <BrainFree> I did my best but we didn't success..
[21:12] <BrainFree> Bye, homie..
[21:12] <nashant> dr_willis: got it
[21:12] <guntbert> BrainFree: don't spam the channel please - be easy on the <enter> key
[21:12] <skar> someone know why it isn't ldtpeditor binary when you install ldtp package?
[21:13] <BrainFree> guntbert: I'm not spamming :(
[21:13] <Evil_Eric> hey guys i need the best app for creating a app launcher any ideas
[21:13] <MockingBird> bash
[21:13] <theadmin> MockingBird: you mean emacs :P
[21:13] <MockingBird> vim
[21:13] <Pici> !best
[21:13] <theadmin> Oh whatever, I'm not getting into an editor war
[21:14] <BrainFree> MockingBird is too fast :D
[21:14] <theadmin> Evil_Eric: You don't need an app for that, Ubuntu has built-in functionality
[21:14] <MockingBird> Do you want it on the desktop?
[21:14] <Evil_Eric> theadmin , would you happen to have a link to a how to guide then
[21:14] <MockingBird> www.google.com
[21:15] <guntbert> BrainFree: and keep to ubuntu support here - don't contibute to chatter
[21:15] <Guest26863> i'm not really a gamer - just found minecraft and gave it a try and liked it. it took me forever to get it working on my platform and once i did this happened. i read that it would run on old machines, so i naturaly thought it would work on my relatively new one.
[21:15] <theadmin> Evil_Eric: Well, it used to be right-click anywhere and "Create Launcher" but I'm not sure if that's still around
[21:15] <Evil_Eric> its not
[21:15] <dcope> ergh, just installed updates on my MBA and now ubuntu can't find any network cards
[21:15] <Pici> !google | MockingBird
[21:15] <theadmin> Evil_Eric: Here's how to write a basic .desktop file: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[21:15] <GeorgeTorwell> Does ubuntu screen code in the software center to make sure there is no malicious code?
[21:16] <Evil_Eric> thank you theadmin
[21:16] <theadmin> GeorgeTorwell: Yes, every app submitted to the software center is reviewed.
[21:16] <GeorgeTorwell> Cool/
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> GeorgeTorwell  but be careful with PPA's, as they are not screened
[21:16] <GeorgeTorwell> ok
[21:16] <BrainFree> How to add a foreign repository on terminal?
[21:16] <dcope> any ideas?
[21:16] <TomyLobo> even the binary only packages?
[21:17] <theadmin> GeorgeTorwell: Well... Some of the apps in the Software Center are closed source, though (Flash), then they only review the functionality
[21:17] <theadmin> TomyLobo: ^
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> well flash isn't likely to be a problem
[21:17] <GeorgeTorwell> but I get suspicious when installing a random app and the software center asks for my root password
[21:17] <theadmin> GeorgeTorwell: That's necessary to install any app
[21:17] <MockingBird> GeorgeTorwell:  it will always ask you for that
[21:17] <theg> Can someone help me install Wine please? Terminal output is here: http://pastebin.com/MBTafena Have tried remvoing the repository then installing, no difference in output.
[21:18] <islandmonkey> Hello people, Ubuntu isn't wanting to load today. All my computer does is load up the grub menu automatically (which it shouldn't), load Ubuntu with a black screen (with the flickering white thing you see in consoles), accelarates the fan and then shuts down. Help?
[21:18] <TomyLobo> it needs root rights to install the app. otherwise it cannot write to the target folders
[21:18] <MockingBird> GeorgeTorwell:  it stops malicious apps from installing in the background.
[21:18] <islandmonkey> BTW, I have to wait >1min for anything to happen
[21:18] <MockingBird> isbric:  what was the last thing you did before it bricked?
[21:18] <BrainFree> Homies, how to add a foreign repository on terminal?
[21:19] <bekks> BrainFree: We have clue on how to do that on backtrack.
[21:19] <ikonia> theg: why have you installed that ppa
[21:19] <bekks> *no clue even.
[21:19] <BrainFree> Ppa codes is not works on ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[21:19] <ikonia> theg: look at the amount of bad dependencies
[21:19] <MockingBird> BrainFree:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:...
[21:19] <bekks> BrainFree: The do work, but you dont have Ubuntu as you stated before.
[21:19] <wizards> hey what windows manager is the least resource intensive that is good with ubuntu
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> wizards  try jwm
[21:20] <BrainFree> bekks, I using ubuntu with BackTrack, My engliish is too weak to make a professional conversation on this place..
[21:20] <theadmin> wizards: openbox, i3, awesome, xmonad...
[21:20] <ikonia> BrainFree: ubuntu and back track are two seperate OS's
[21:20] <Pici> BrainFree: We do not support backtrack in this channel. You will need to use #backtrack-linux for that
[21:20] <theg> ikonia - it said to on the website, I've tried without it and that didn't work either
[21:20] <bekks> BrainFree: You are using backtrack, not Ubuntu then.
[21:20] <ikonia> BrainFree: you don't use "ubuntu with backtrack"
[21:20] <ikonia> theg: what website ?
[21:20] <MockingBird> Pici:  I think BT5 is based on Ubuntu
[21:21] <ikonia> theg: wine is in the default ubuntu repos and works fine
[21:21] <BrainFree> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 and I installed BT5
[21:21] <ikonia> MockingBird: but it's different from ubuntu
[21:21] <Pici> MockingBird: It has its own support channel. We do not support it here.
[21:21] <BrainFree> I explain that
[21:21] <wizards> theadmin: recommend any of those in particular? vs lxde?
[21:21] <BrainFree> I'm choose a system on grub
[21:21] <theadmin> MockingBird: It's "based" on it, it's not the same thing though. The officially supported distributions are: Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Studio
[21:21] <theg> ikonia - it won't install for me from the default repos either though
[21:21] <theadmin> wizards: lxde is not a window manager...
[21:21] <theadmin> wizards: lxde uses openbox
[21:21] <MockingBird> theadmin:  I know.
[21:21] <BrainFree> In BT5, its(minimal ubuntu 10.04 based)
[21:22] <ikonia> theg: what was the problem with the default repo install ?
[21:22] <guntbert> BrainFree: stop talking about backtrack please
[21:22] <dr_willis> BT does a lot of changes to ubuntu. weve had this conversation in here befor. and the bottom line.. see BT support channels.
[21:23] <theg> ikonia - same messages as with the one from the website
[21:23] <ikonia> theg: I don't think it is the same
[21:23] <ikonia> !info wine
[21:23] <islandmonkey> Hello people, Ubuntu isn't wanting to load today. All my computer does is load up the grub menu automatically (which it shouldn't), load Ubuntu with a black screen (with the flickering white thing you see in consoles), accelarates the fan and then shuts down. Help?
[21:23] <islandmonkey> BTW, I have to wait >1min for anything to happen
[21:23] <guntbert> theg: did you remove/disable ALL ppas yet?
[21:23] <ikonia> theg: wine in the repos is 1.4, so the error message of broken 1.5 dependencies is unlikey to happen using the versions from the repo
[21:24] <BrainFree> guntbert: I joined the #backtrack channel now. Thanks for your helps.
[21:24] <tms_> Hey folks, for some reason when my instances renew their IP addresses (somewhere around 45 seconds for some reason) there's a period of about 10 - 15 seconds where I get no networking whatsoever using VlanManager. Anyone seen anything like that before?
[21:24] <theg> How do I disable all PPAs?
[21:24] <MockingBird> Goto to software centre
[21:25] <ikonia> he's not in #backtrack-linux so joined the wrong channel
[21:25] <MockingBird> then software sources
[21:25] <dr_willis> ikonia:  ;)
[21:25] <theg> Yeah, but how do I disable all PPAs from terminal?
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge | theg
[21:25] <ikonia> theg: why are you using PPA's ?
[21:25] <MockingBird> open your sources files and commentout/delete the ppa repos
[21:26] <theg> ikonia - to install various software
[21:26] <nashant> is there a grub gui?
[21:26] <dr_willis> nashant: i think theres some unofficial grub tweaking tools. but i never needed them
[21:27] <ikonia> theg: such as ?
[21:27] <delinquentme> How can I find all files recursively within a directory which have "frac" in their name?
[21:27] <islandmonkey> Hello people, Ubuntu isn't wanting to load today. All my computer does is load up the grub menu automatically (which it shouldn't), load Ubuntu with a black screen (with the flickering white thing you see in consoles), accelarates the fan and then shuts down. Help?
[21:27] <islandmonkey> BTW, I have to wait >1min for anything to happen
[21:27] <guntbert> delinquentme: find . -name "*frac*"
[21:27] <wizards> theadmin: thanks sorry, would you recommend one in particular for a dual monitor setup?
[21:27] <nashant> dr_willis: it seems like something is changing grub every time I boot into the installed env. I get purple screen hang every time. Then I boot to live, chroot to installed, update-grub, and it works again
[21:28] <ikonia> delinquentme: ls -R | grep or find . -name '*frac*' -print
[21:28] <Pici> delinquentme: use -iname if you want a case-insensitive search
[21:28] <theg> ikonia -Wine, some game thing, some dvd driver thing, and an emulator
[21:28] <ikonia> Pici: even better
[21:28] <dr_willis> nashant:  you got more then 1 hd?  could be its booting the wrong one.
[21:28] <theadmin> wizards: awesome I guess, it has full multihead support
[21:28] <ikonia> theg: so wine is in the normal repos, DVD driver thing ?? ?what ? and "some game thing"
[21:28] <wizards> theadmin: thanks a lot man, i will check it out and pray for a new computer
[21:29] <ikonia> theg: why are you installing this stuff from untrusted sources if it's a.) already in the ubuntu repos b.) you don't even know what it is
[21:29] <Guest26863> anyone: i have several graphical applications and games that run terribly slow; i'm using ubuntu 10.04 on an hp-2133 mini, with a 1.2 GHZ processor and 1G RAM; it's only graphical sftwr, such as: Minecraft; that run so slow you have to wait minutes for the mouse cursor to move; i read over the internet that minecraft will run on older less powerful systems;that there is a version that'll run on a palm-held|please help
[21:29] <theg> ikonia - I googled the problems, and the solutions involved adding new repositories to be able to install the software which fixes it
[21:30] <islandmonkey> Hello people, Ubuntu isn't wanting to load today. All my computer does is load up the grub menu automatically (which it shouldn't), load Ubuntu with a black screen (with the flickering white thing you see in consoles), accelarates the fan and then shuts down. Help?
[21:30] <islandmonkey> BTW, I have to wait >1min for anything to happen
[21:30] <ikonia> theg: I'm sorry that makes no sense
[21:30] <theadmin> ikonia: winehq.org tells people to use the PPA on Ubuntu. Their fault there.
[21:30] <ikonia> theadmin: really ?
[21:30] <theadmin> ikonia: Yeah
[21:30] <theg> theadmin - but they told me to come here
[21:30] <ikonia> how disappointing
[21:31] <ikonia> theg: so they told you to install their PPA, it didn't work and they told you to come here ?
[21:31] <theadmin> ikonia: I mean the website, not the people
[21:31] <theadmin> lol
[21:31]  * MockingBird laughs
[21:31] <guntbert> Guest26863: summarizing what other had to say about your problem: don't expect performance with minecraft on 1.2GHz and 1GB RAM
[21:31] <nashant> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448567/   results from bootinfoscript
[21:32] <theg> ikonia - No, I followed their thing on the website involving their PPA, it didn't work, so I posted on the forum, an admin disapproved the post and emailed me saying to come here
[21:32] <ikonia> theg: #winehq is the official wine PPA channel
[21:32] <ikonia> theg: they should be able to help you with problems with their PPA
[21:32] <theg> Anywho disabling all PPAs hasn't fixed it.
[21:33] <ikonia> I suspect it won't if you've got PPA software already installed
[21:33] <nashant> dr_willis: and output from parted -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448575/
[21:33] <ikonia> disabling a PPA doesn't remove what's been done
[21:33] <theadmin> ikonia: ppa-purge does that (downgrade to official repo versions after removing the ppa)
[21:33] <Guest26863> guntber: thank you for your response
[21:33] <ikonia> theadmin: doesn't always work
[21:33] <theadmin> True enough
[21:35] <Guest26863> i guess, i should then give up on trying to run minecraft?
[21:35] <theg> Sorry, my laptop battery ran out
[21:35] <theg> Guest - try using optifine
[21:36] <dr_willis> minecraft is worth giving up. ;)
[21:36] <Guest26863> what is optifine?
[21:37] <kostkon> Guest26863, runs ok on hp mini 210 with intel gma 3150
[21:37] <theg> Optifine is a mod for minecraft which improves performance.
[21:38] <kostkon> Guest26863, and openjdk7
[21:38] <WXZ1> how do I get seperate workspaces on each monitor in a multi monitor setup?
[21:39] <ikonia> WXZ1: I don't think that's possible
[21:39] <Guest26863> thank you guys
[21:39] <theg> Also I recommend you use Sun Java
[21:39] <ikonia> WXZ1: you could run two seperate X servers
[21:39] <WXZ1> but it must be
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> theg: sun don't own java :)
[21:39] <ikonia> WXZ1: why must it be ?
[21:39] <dr_willis> WXZ1:  its not possible with Unity,  You can fullscreen an app and put it on the other monitors  and set it 'on all desktops/monitors'  if you want
[21:39] <WXZ1> because it's so useful
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest26863: there is a PPA for Oracle Java, may help install it
[21:39] <theg> I know, but it jsut runs so much better than OpenJDK, esp. for Minecraft
[21:40] <theg> *just
[21:40] <ikonia> WXZ1: that doesn't mean it's possible
[21:40] <wachpwnski> How can you auto mount things that are plugged into a defined usb port?
[21:40] <WXZ1> dr_willis: I don't need to use unity
[21:40] <dr_willis> WXZ1: I think some other window managers may have the feature. but  I dont recall what ones
[21:40] <WXZ1> dr_willis: yeah, I heard something about xnomad having it
[21:40] <dr_willis> WXZ1:  perhaps Awsome
[21:40] <usr13> wachpwnski: fstab entries
[21:40] <WXZ1> dr_willis: but I can't find any details on the internet
[21:40] <wachpwnski> usr13:  can you give me an example?
[21:40] <dr_willis> WXZ1:  no idea. Try their irc channels
[21:41] <WXZ1> dr_willis: awesome and nomad hav e irc channels?
[21:41] <g0th> hi
[21:41] <dr_willis> WXZ1:  no idea. I imagine so
[21:41] <g0th> when I upgraded ubuntu tex-common become broken
[21:41] <g0th> is this a known issue?
[21:41] <ikonia> g0th: is there a bug logged
[21:41] <g0th> can I somehow remove and reinstall it?
[21:42] <ikonia> g0th: you can remove it if there are no depenency problems
[21:42] <g0th> I guess dpkg --force-... is not a good idea?
[21:42] <ikonia> no
[21:42] <g0th> too many dependencies
[21:42] <ikonia> use the package manager
[21:42] <g0th> like 100 dependencies
[21:42] <ikonia> that's what it's there fore
[21:42] <ikonia> there is a --reinstall option
[21:42] <ikonia> if you man apt-get
[21:42] <g0th> I don't want to remember all those 100 apps
[21:42] <g0th> I tried the reinstall
[21:43] <ikonia> g0th: why do you actually think it's broken ?
[21:43] <ikonia> g0th: why do you actually think it's broken ?
[21:43] <g0th> it shows a "C" (conflict) next to it
[21:43] <g0th> by broken I mean the installation
[21:44] <ikonia> g0th: do you have PPA's / 3rd party repos on the system
[21:44] <usr13> wachpwnski: Let's say you have a thumb drive with Documents and you want it to be /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs First mkdir ~/Portable-Docs ; Then plug the divice in and run blkid and get it's UUID ; Make the fstab entry pointing the mount point to the UUID.  From then on, it will show up in Portable-Docs  (in /home/wachpwnski)
[21:45] <g0th> Some of the problems listed above are caused by some sort of debconf
[21:45] <g0th> database corruption.
[21:45] <g0th> database corruption
[21:45] <ikonia> g0th: do you have PPA's / 3rd party repos on the system
[21:45] <g0th> yes
[21:46] <ikonia> did you remove all PPA/3rd party software before upgrading as instruced ?
[21:46] <ikonia> instructed
[21:46] <nashant> dr_willis: if I run update-grub while booted into the installed env then when I reboot it still hangs on the splash screen (I've got it set to use no splash screen!)
[21:46] <g0th> it did so automatically
[21:46] <g0th> yes
[21:46] <ikonia> no, it doesn't do it automatically
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> g0th: try:   wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[21:46] <g0th> it told me duriong the update process that it disabled the additional repo
[21:46] <Pici> ikonia: I think the upgrade does actually.
[21:47] <ikonia> Pici: it really doesn't
[21:47] <usr13> wachpwnski: The fstab entry will look something like:
[21:47] <ikonia> it may try....but it doesn't
[21:47] <usr13>   /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs 534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c    auto  users   0 0
[21:47] <Pici> ikonia: it removes the repos, but it probably doesn't remove the packages.
[21:47] <ikonia> removing the repos does nothing
[21:47] <g0th> ofc not
[21:47] <g0th> I don't want to remove those package
[21:47] <ikonia> then your upgrade is falwed
[21:47] <dr_willis> nashant:  tried the TEXT mode booting option?
[21:47] <g0th> those are several hundred packages
[21:47] <g0th> but not tex related
[21:48] <g0th> also not dictionary related
[21:48] <g0th> hmm, I can't see any possible conflict
[21:48] <RigidWig> can anyone tell me why having "export DISPLAY=:0.0" in an ~/.ssh/rc doesn't seem to stick in the ssh session. But entering it manually after authentication does?
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> RigidWig: put it in ~/.bashrc
[21:48] <usr13> wachpwnski:  /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs 534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c    auto  auto,users   0 0
[21:49] <usr13> or:  /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs 534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c    vfat  auto,users   0 0
[21:49] <nashant> dr_willis: not yet. Trying now.
[21:49] <theadmin> usr13: That looks kinda wrong
[21:50] <usr13> wachpwnski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[21:50] <usr13> theadmin: Kinda wrong?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> usr13: don't you need the device to mount?
[21:50] <usr13> Oh I got it backwards
[21:50] <g0th> hmm
[21:50] <g0th> ActionParsnip: that script looks a bit scary
[21:50] <RigidWig> ActionParsnip, is there somewhere specific I need to put it, or maybe add some parameters so that it executes following an SSH session from a user?
[21:50] <usr13> Correction:  534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs    vfat  auto,users   0 0
[21:50] <usr13> ?
[21:51] <syphon14> none of my browsers will play video and i have flash
[21:51] <theadmin> usr13: More of: UUID=534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c ...
[21:51] <dario967> buona sera a tutto il canale
[21:51] <wachpwnski> usr13:  Thanks.
[21:51] <Pici> !it | dario967
[21:51] <usr13> Correction:  UUID=534c847c-98dd-40dc-a372-d91e064ccd6c /home/wachpwnski/Portable-Docs    vfat  auto,users   0 0
[21:51] <wachpwnski> again theadmin is being the ubuntu ombudsman haha
[21:51] <rosevp> need help with setting up virtual host for ssl
[21:51] <usr13> theadmin: ActionParsnip Thank you for the [constructive] criticism.
[21:52] <dario967> !list
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> g0th: it's just the a scripted version of the commands here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:52] <g0th> is dpkg --purge --force-all tex-common etc really a bad idea?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> g0th: how is that scary?
[21:52] <dario967> list
[21:52] <dario967> !list
[21:52] <bekks> dario967: This is not a filesharing channel.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> dario967: it hasn't changed in 30 seconds
[21:53] <g0th> hmm I don't know what the first parts do and just removing stuff from package management without knowing what's going on is "scary" for me
[21:53] <bekks> !it | dario967
[21:53] <g0th> I'll read the procedure
[21:53] <g0th> thx
[21:53] <nashant> dr_willis: you were right. It seems to be trying to boot from sdd, when it should be sda. My motherboard is efi, and could be putting the gpt partition table drive above sda. How do I stop that??
[21:53] <rosevp> I can get to https://mysite.mydomain.com
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> g0th: all it does is clear the package manager knowledge of any packages then redownloads fresh
[21:53] <usr13> wachpwnski: But I don't really do it like that, I just let the portable devices mount where they may.   Even if I do backups, I just bring up another file-manager window and drag stuff from one to the other.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> g0th: I just scripted it because its easier to run 1 command than many
[21:54] <rosevp> but cant get to pages and sub-folders https://mysite.mydomain.com/
[21:54] <syphon14> none of browsers will play youtube video and i have flash
[21:54] <g0th> ActionParsnip: knowledge of installed packages?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> g0th: available packages
[21:54] <g0th> what about manually installed packages? aren't those informations lost then?
[21:54] <g0th> hmm, isn't that the same as apt-get update?
[21:55] <g0th> essentially?
[21:55] <dr_willis> nashant:  no idea. :) i got no EFI systems here.
[21:55] <maujhsn> dr_willis How are you? Hey about that issue about installing Windows on a new harddrive---Well in turned out to be a hardware issue! :)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> g0th: no, its a lot different
[21:55] <g0th> the _installation and configuration_ of a package was a problem somehow
[21:55] <bekks> rosevp: So how did you install flash then?
[21:55] <g0th> not what was available and what not
[21:55] <g0th> hmm, I'll read it anyway
[21:55] <rosevp> bekks having ssl issue
[21:55] <dr_willis> maujhsn:  :()  gotta hate that.
[21:55] <g0th> maybe it helps
[21:55] <rosevp> setting up virtual host
[21:55] <g0th> my idea was to force remove the broken packages and then to reinstall them
[21:56] <crazyharry> how can I remove empty spaces or  (char ' ') from a file using sed ?
[21:56] <bekks> rosevp: Sorry, wrong tab completion :)
[21:56] <nashant> dr_willis: well thanks for trying
[21:56] <rosevp> no worries
[21:56] <crazyharry> like using sed -i 's/./,/g' *txt
[21:56] <nashant> ActionParsnip: know anything about EFI systems?
[21:56] <bekks> syphon14: So how did you install flash?
[21:56] <usr13> syphon14: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:56] <bekks> synAnd Ubuntu do you use?
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> nashant: nothing at all
[21:56] <rosevp> is this the right place to get help on ssl virtual host ubuntu?
[21:56] <nashant> damn it
[21:56] <bekks> usr13: Not necessary. Flash is provided in the repos.
[21:57] <usr13> bekks: I know.
[21:57] <maujhsn> dr_willis Can anyone tell me if the ubuntu forum is in spanish?
[21:57] <bekks> !flash | syphon14
[21:57] <syphon14> i downloaded it from the add and remove part of ubuntu (download manager)
[21:57] <mickster04> crazyharry:does sed -i 's/ //g' not work?
[21:57] <theadmin> crazyharry: sed -ri 's/\s//g' filename
[21:57] <Guest94170> alo
[21:57] <nashant> dr_willis: reckon that putting grub on every single disk might help?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> syphon14: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'             Thanks
[21:58] <usr13> bekks: He prolly has a flashplayer other than Adobe and the vids he's trying to play may only work with Adobe flash player, so why not cut to the chase?
[21:58] <crazyharry> theadmin, you da man :-) thanks dude!
[21:59] <delarge> hi there, i have a dell xps m1210 a little bit old with a processor of 1.83 Ghz and a ram of 992.3 MB and all these years i've used ubuntu 10.10 and always has worked very good but now i'm working with wireless networks and a lot of tools are deprecated and i want to upgrade my ubuntu. What version do you recommend me to download?
[22:00] <ikonia> delarge: current supported versions
[22:00] <delarge> the latest works fine in old machines?
[22:00] <ikonia> delarge: ubuntu 10.04 is still supported also
[22:00] <theadmin> delarge: 12.04 if you want large stability and long support. 12.10 if you're looking for new features.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> delarge: Lubuntu is pretty light
[22:00] <ikonia> delarge: that's not an "old" machine
[22:00] <bekks> usr13: How do you know which flash implementation he is using?
[22:00] <xangua> delarge: it depends of you definition of old
[22:00] <ikonia> it will be fine with any modern distro
[22:00] <usr13> bekks: I don't.
[22:00] <usr13> bekks: And that is the point.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> my command will fill you in though :)
[22:03] <delarge> thanks for the reply, then i'll try a Ubuntu 12.*
[22:04] <delarge> i hope that works fine in my laptop
[22:04] <usr13> delarge: How old is it?
[22:04] <tozen> delarge: would be fine to see your laptops configuration info
[22:06] <delarge> it's a Dell XPS M1210, i bought it at 2007. Looking in System > Administration > Monitor shows a processor inter core 2 T5600 @ 1.83 Ghz
[22:06] <delarge> and a memory of 992.3 MiB
[22:06] <delarge> *intel
[22:06] <tozen> delarge: the best choice is Xubuntu
[22:06] <rosevp> any suggestion of why I can get to https://client.site.com/wp-admin and https://client.site.com/index.php but no other pages
[22:07] <rosevp> the remaining pages get 404
[22:07] <rosevp> http works fine but not https
[22:07] <delarge> do you think that the 12.04 it's going to run slowly?
[22:07] <tozen> rosevp:pastebin hosts file, please
[22:08] <usr13> delarge: Oh a Dell XPS M1210 should work fine with 12.04 or .10
[22:08] <tozen> delarge: yes i do
[22:08] <rosevp> tozen so don't understand
[22:08] <rosevp> sorrry
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> tozen: Lubuntu is lighter still
[22:08] <nashant> dr_willis: ok, I have some info. when loading the partitions, the only one that actually has an alphanumeric identifier is sdd1. the rest are just 00000000-0000-etc
[22:08] <usr13> delarge: How much RAM?
[22:09] <usr13> delarge: Oh 1G, yea, that'll be ok
[22:09] <kelvinella> hi i have WD My Passport 1TB drive, it works in ubuntu but not in xubuntu anyone helps?
[22:09] <kelvinella> it said input/output error in xubuntu
[22:10] <usr13> kelvinella: May need to run fsck on your Linux partition(s), (from LiveCD)
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: if you manually mount it, is it ok?
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: when you unplug it, do you use the safe remove feature in the OS?
[22:10] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, it automounts in xubuntu but then says input/output error
[22:10] <usr13> kelvinella: Oh, it's a portable drive?
[22:10] <kelvinella> it is portable
[22:11] <tozen> rosevp: type in terminal cat /etc/hosts and pastebin it, please
[22:11] <usr13> kelvinella: Do you umount before unplugging each time?
[22:11] <kelvinella> i saferemove it in ubuntu
[22:11] <usr13> kelvinella: ... as well you should in any OS...
[22:11] <kelvinella> my ubuntu is 10.10
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: maverick is EOL
[22:12] <kelvinella> and both my laptop running xubuntu 12.04
[22:12] <rosevp> tozen what goes in hosts?
[22:12] <delarge> maverick rules
[22:12] <delarge> jajaajaj
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> delarge: tis dead
[22:12] <delarge> i know :(
[22:12] <kelvinella> works in ubuntu 10.10 but not in xubuntu 12.04
[22:12] <Shinobi> Is there a way to run a script based on file system events?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: can you manually mount it in Xubuntu?
[22:12] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, wait
[22:13] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, how exactly do i manual mount?
[22:14] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i just plug it in xubuntu laptop it is automount but just cant read
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: unmount it then manually mount
[22:14] <usr13> kelvinella: What filesystem is on it?
[22:15] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, even gparted in xubuntu can see the drive
[22:15] <kelvinella> just input/output error
[22:15] <usr13> kelvinella: What filesystem?
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: something like:  sudo mkdir /media/hdd; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/hdd -o user,rw,uid=1000        assuming it is /dev/sdb1 as the partition to mount
[22:17] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i can access the drive without mount
[22:17] <kelvinella> i mean i cant access it in the file manager but i can access it in terminal
[22:18] <kelvinella> i can ls into it and evince file.pdf
[22:18] <blackshirt> hello, good morning
[22:18] <kelvinella> it works but not in the gui file manager
[22:18] <rosevp> tozen just sent u contents
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: ah, i see. Have you tried another file manager? or making another Ubuntu user and testing there?
[22:19] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, when I ls -l i found a strange folder with d????????? ? ? ? ? Locale
[22:20] <kelvinella> could that be the problem?
[22:20] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  big problem.
[22:20] <bekks> kelvinella: That looks like a corrupted filesystem.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: you could unmount the partition and label it. May help
[22:20] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  backup stuff if you can.. and time to fsck the filesystem
[22:20] <kelvinella> i just bought this drive 2 days ago
[22:20] <kelvinella> maybe i should reformat it?
[22:21] <bekks> kelvinella: Just backup your data and run a fsck
[22:21] <bekks> kelvinella: after unmounting it.
[22:21] <kelvinella> or delete the Locale folder in ubuntu then plug in the xubuntu?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: try the label. It may help
[22:21] <bekks> kelvinella: Dont reformat or delete things unless you know it will help.
[22:21] <kelvinella> what label?
[22:21] <kelvinella> and how?
[22:22] <ikonia> why would you reformat something ?
[22:22] <ikonia> what benifit do you hope to get ?
[22:22] <kelvinella> ikonia, because maybe the hidden folder that comes with the drive
[22:22] <ikonia> what about them ?
[22:23] <kelvinella> whats the command for umount manually
[22:23] <ikonia> umount
[22:24] <kelvinella> ikonia, option?
[22:24] <ikonia> what ?
[22:24] <rosevp> help with setting up ssl for vhost
[22:24] <ikonia> rosevp: what's the problem ?
[22:25] <rosevp> i set up a vhost and now trying to set up the vhost for the ssl (https)
[22:25] <ikonia> rosevp: ok, so what are you stuck with ?
[22:25] <rosevp> can get to the main htps://subdomain.maindomain.com
[22:25] <ikonia> rosevp: (don't forget you need to not use name based virtual hosts)
[22:25] <rosevp> but get 404 for remaining of site
[22:26] <fulcan> can someone please post a default samba4 or a working samba4 config?
[22:26] <rosevp> yeah I did
[22:26] <syphon14> my browsers just go black when i hit play on youtube video help
[22:27] <ikonia> fulcan: "working" samba4 config depends on your personal setup
[22:27] <ikonia> rosevp: so what do you actually need help with
[22:27] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, after i use terminal to access the drive in xubuntu and then i unmount it and plug it back to ubuntu desktop, it wont auto mount what to do?
[22:27] <fulcan> ikonia can get me through an installation
[22:27] <ikonia> fulcan: sorry what ?
[22:27] <g0th> finally!
[22:27] <g0th> I found it :)
[22:27] <rosevp> trying to figure out why I can get to main index when accessing https but not to the rest of the site
[22:27] <g0th> sudo /usr/share/debconf/fix_db.pl
[22:28] <g0th> that fixed all my issues
[22:28] <FloodBot1> g0th: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <ikonia> rosevp: what does the log for your IP based virtual host say for the SSL site
[22:28] <rosevp> I can't get to https://subdomain.main.com/index.php but not https://subdomain.main.com/order/index.php
[22:28] <fulcan> ikonia ERROR: Invalid smb.conf
[22:29] <ikonia> fulcan: ok, so run testparm on it and find out what's invlaid
[22:29] <ikonia> invalid
[22:29] <fulcan> ikonia and pkg-add blows because it will no give me a fresh one.
[22:29] <syphon14> my browsers just go black when i hit play on youtube or any other video
[22:29] <ikonia> pkg-add ? what is pkg-add ?
[22:29] <fulcan> apt-get
[22:29] <syphon14> they just wont play video
[22:29] <rosevp> I checked /var/log/apache2/error.log and get 404 for all pages excpet index
[22:29] <usr13> kelvinella: xubuntu should automount it for you.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: it should, if the label is whack then it won't mount as the label is used as the mount point
[22:30] <usr13> kelvinella: .... by default ...
[22:30] <ikonia> rosevp: you should get more info than that from the error log, that sounds like the access log
[22:30] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, now it mounts i tap the device
[22:30] <kelvinella> i can see everything in ubuntu
[22:31] <fulcan> how do I get past this?  http://pastie.org/5549592
[22:32] <rosevp> yeah just noticed "[warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `UAT-UBU-02' does NOT match server name!?"
[22:32] <rosevp> could that b it?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> fulcan: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:33] <ikonia> it means the server's certificate does not match the hostname of the URL
[22:33] <ikonia> fulcan: what is pkg-add ?
[22:33] <ikonia> pkgadd is a solaris command, but I have no idea what pkg-add is
[22:33] <kelvinella> http://pastebin.com/kaimafgw
[22:33] <fulcan> precise
[22:33] <kelvinella> here is the ls -l gives me
[22:33] <fulcan> ikonia apt-get  my brain keeps going back to bsd
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: unmount the partition and use gparted to label it
[22:34] <usr13> kelvinella: What filesystem is on it?
[22:34] <kelvinella> usr13, its a WD so ntfs
[22:34] <kelvinella> i bought 2 days ago WD My PAssport 1TB
[22:34] <kelvinella> default file system ntfs
[22:35] <usr13> kelvinella: Do as ActionParsnip suggests
[22:35] <rosevp> ikonia: could that be why I'm getting 404?
[22:35] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, everything works in ubuntu
[22:35] <kelvinella> just not the xubuntu file manager
[22:35] <ikonia> rosevp: if the ssl is invalid and can't do the handshake....possible, I guess
[22:35] <usr13> kelvinella: It reads the Local/  directory?
[22:36] <ikonia> although I'd just expect an invalid certficiate warning
[22:36] <rosevp> me to
[22:36] <kelvinella> yes usr13
[22:36] <rosevp> strange I can get to index
[22:36] <ikonia> rosevp: is the index just cache ?
[22:36] <kelvinella> i think maybe that Locale is giving problem to the gui file manager in xubuntu if i can delete that Locale folder
[22:37] <ikonia> rosevp: have you setup the subdirectory "directory" parameters to allow subdirectories ?
[22:37] <kelvinella> usr13, so i am thinking to format it
[22:37] <ikonia> why ?
[22:37] <blackout_> does someone know why my boot starts 3 sec delayed? http://en.zimagez.com/full/f67c05cd40f17683329a618ec91320d4270a5e0719426a5f5d1877308f3718a6156d954399bcdc59.php
[22:37] <rosevp> this is WP site and can also get to admin (wp-admin)
[22:37] <usr13> kelvinella: Usually, when you see  "Input/output error"  there are filesystem errors.
[22:37] <rosevp> but nothing else
[22:37] <ikonia> why format it ??? I don't undertand
[22:37] <kelvinella> usr13, will reformat it fix it?
[22:37] <ikonia> rosevp: can you give me the url ?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: again, label the partition. It is used in naming the mout point. If it is garbled, you will get issues
[22:37] <fulcan> how do I get past this? it wont even let me update. http://pastie.org/5549617
[22:37] <usr13> ikonia: WHy not?  Why not format as fat32?
[22:38] <ikonia> usr13: why though ? what benifit ?
[22:38] <usr13> ikonia: Might fix it so that he can read it ok.
[22:38] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, cant umount
[22:38] <carlosandre> carlosandre> hi I'd like to create upstart and start it without sudo
 when I start my upstart job, without sudo a see an error message
 start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.108" (uid=1000 pid=6772 comm="start clockwork ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
 I'm trying to configure monit for process monitoring
 Can anyone help me?
[22:38] <FloodBot1> carlosandre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> usr13: 4Gb file limit in Fat32 is a bit of a bummer
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: sure you can
[22:39] <ikonia> carlosandre: please dont spam
[22:39] <carlosandre> sorry
[22:39] <usr13> ActionParsnip: O
[22:39] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i dont know why it just wont
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: cd $HOME; sudo umount /media/My\ Passport
[22:39] <carlosandre> can anyone help me with upstart?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: if your PWD is in the mount point, it won't unmount
[22:40] <usr13> ActionParsnip: It's already mounted,  See:  http://pastebin.com/kaimafgw
[22:40] <carlosandre> i'd like to start a job without sudo
[22:40] <kelvinella> i forgot the sudo
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> usr13: yes, it needs unmounting to label
[22:40] <ikonia> fulcan: make the smb.conf valid
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: now use gparted to label it
[22:40] <ikonia> fulcan: fix the problem
[22:41] <ikonia> or remove samba4
[22:41] <ikonia> !info samba4
[22:41] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Oh yea.  Ok.  Yea kelvinellal, do as ActionParsnip suggests and use gparted to re-lable it.
[22:41] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I just assumed he already tried that.
[22:41] <kelvinella> it says editing partitions has the potential to cause loss of data?  should i apply anyway?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !label | kelvinella
[22:41] <usr13> kelvinella: backup your data and go on and do it.
[22:42] <carlosandre> ikonia
[22:42] <kelvinella> let me backup first
[22:42] <fulcan> does anyone know how to get past a failed samba installation?  it wont even let me update. http://pastie.org/5549637
[22:42] <rosevp> ikonia: just gave it to u
[22:43] <ikonia> fulcan: fix the problem
[22:43] <ikonia> !info samba4
[22:43] <ikonia> or remove samba4
[22:43] <ikonia> fulcan: just repeating it and not listening to the advice won't help
[22:43] <ikonia> rosevp: just saw it, one moment
[22:43] <rosevp> thanks bud...this driving me crazy :-(
[22:44] <ikonia> rosevp: your certificate is invalid, you know that correct ?
[22:44] <kelvinella> 200 GB needs 2 hrs backup, are you guys staying here for a while?
[22:44] <fulcan> ikonia I am trying to install samba
[22:44] <carlosandre> i need to create and an upstart job without sudo... how to achieve it?
[22:44] <fulcan> ikonia fixing it "is" my issue
[22:45] <ikonia> fulcan: sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:45] <ikonia> fulcan: that is NOT the command to install samba
[22:45] <fulcan> ikonia it craps on smb.conf
[22:45] <ikonia> fulcan: you've said that 5 times now, I can see that
[22:45] <ikonia> fulcan: however you are NOT trying to install samba
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: why is it not backed up anyway?
[22:45] <fulcan> ikonia yes I am
[22:46] <ikonia> fulcan: you are doing apt-get upgrade, that is not the command to install samba
[22:46] <ikonia> fulcan: apt-get upgrade is NOT the command to install samba
[22:46] <fulcan> ERROR: Invalid smb.conf
[22:46] <usr13> carlosandre: You should tell us your end goal.
[22:46] <ikonia> fulcan: if you say the same thing again, I will mute you
[22:46] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i am backing up now 200GB so need 1hr40min
[22:46] <ikonia> fulcan: I know the problem you have said it 5 times, you are not listening to what has been told
[22:46] <rosevp> ikonia: interesting that can get to https://domain.com/index and all files for that page can be retrived (css, js, etc.)
[22:46] <ikonia> rosevp: that's a different canonical name
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: good to run a full backup :)
[22:46] <kelvinella> it is full
[22:47] <ikonia> rosevp: www.domain.com domain.com are two different things in SSL world
[22:47] <kelvinella> i just copy three folders
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: no, as in, not a differential
[22:47] <kelvinella> what do u mean?
[22:47] <fulcan> ikonia either apt-get upgrade or install craps in the exact same place.
[22:47] <fulcan> http://pastie.org/5549653
[22:47] <rosevp> good poing...let me check
[22:47] <rosevp> point
[22:48] <usr13> carlosandre: A new system job will need to be placed in /etc/init/  so not sure how you would do it without sudo.  (So why do you need to do it without sudo?)
[22:48] <ikonia> fulcan: what hav eyou just shown me the SAME command again in a pastebin
[22:48] <ikonia> fulcan: apt-get upgrade is NOT the command to install samba
[22:48]  * [_-S1L3NC3-_] What The King Kong
[22:48] <ikonia> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: stop it pleas.e
[22:48] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> stop what
[22:49] <usr13> carlosandre: Well, I take that back, there is also  $HOME/.init/
[22:49] <ikonia> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: the silly /me commands
[22:49] <carlosandre> usr13: when I try to monitor a clockwork proccess with monit, I can't start it...
[22:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol
[22:49] <carlosandre> when i execute the command service clockwork start... i receive a error message
[22:50] <rosevp> ikonia: I can access https://subdomain.main.com/index but not https://subdomain.main.com/shop/index
[22:50] <usr13> carlosandre: http://mmonit.com/monit/documentation/monit.html
[22:51] <ikonia> rosevp: pm me what canonical name you built the SSL for
[22:51] <usr13> carlosandre: sudo service clockwork start  ?
[22:51] <carlosandre> usr13: I pass all two days trying
[22:51] <carlosandre> usr13: sudo service clockwork start works fine
[22:51] <fulcan> ikonia samba install -> http://pastie.org/5549666  update -> http://pastie.org/5549665  same crap, same place
[22:52] <carlosandre> usr13: service clockwork start shows a error
[22:52] <usr13> carlosandre: Ok... so what is next?
[22:52] <ikonia> fulcan: samba is already installed ! that is why it's erroring
[22:52] <nashant> I decided to wipe all 6TB of my media and start again. What would a recommended partition scheme be?
[22:52] <BlessJah> how do i change default action after power button press?
[22:52] <ikonia> fulcan: fix the smb.conf as I've told you 5 times now
[22:52] <BlessJah> suspend, whuch is default, doesnt work on my laptop, so i want to change it to halt
[22:52] <ikonia> fulcan: you already have samba 4 installed
[22:53] <ikonia> fulcan: now you are trying to install samba
[22:53] <ikonia> you can't do that
[22:53] <carlosandre> usr13: so... I can start/stop manually but when I put it on monit... doesn't start
[22:53] <ikonia> fulcan: options 1.) fix smb.conf 2.) remove samba4 before trying to install samba 3 OR upgrade
[22:53] <fulcan> ikonia that a source that won't unistall. crap
[22:53] <carlosandre> usr13: I tried to "start program" as uid root
[22:54] <carlosandre> usr13: but don't work
[22:54] <ikonia> why won't it uninstall
[22:54]  * BlessJah feels a little bit ignored
[22:54] <ikonia> thanks to that /me command you are now ignored
[22:54] <usr13> carlosandre: I don't know.  I've never used monit  Someone else should help you.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> BlessJah: power options in system settings
[22:54] <rosevp> ikonia just sent u conf of both 80 and 443
[22:55] <ikonia> rosevp: ok so the servername in that certificate is the ONLY url you should be referencing, nothing else
[22:55] <carlosandre> usr13: thanks brother
[22:55] <DarkLobster> Any sudoers wiz awake? How to write if I want a users group to be able to edit the superuser crontab? %www-data ALL=(ALL)NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/crontab -e doesn't seem to work, still asks for password and the reply is "Sorry, user is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/crontab -e' as root"
[22:55] <ikonia> rosevp: you also have "servername" commented out
[22:55] <rosevp> I used ubuntu default
[22:56] <ikonia> rosevp: you are using namebased hosts, I told you not to
[22:56] <fulcan> ikonia uninstalling a source is just make uninstall?
[22:56] <rosevp> in the ssl one?
[22:56] <BlessJah> ActionParsnip: inactivity, low battery or closed lid?
[22:56] <ikonia> fulcan: you installed from source......really
[22:56] <BlessJah> i cant see "Power button is pressed" option
[22:56] <rosevp> for the ssl its commented ut
[22:57] <rosevp> out
[22:57] <ikonia> fulcan: samba4 --configure suggests you did NOT install it from source
[22:57] <ikonia> rosevp: ok - so you've not actually using name based hosts then, that's good
[22:57] <fulcan> HOW DO I DELETE A SOURCE INSTALL OF SAMBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:57] <rosevp> so u think its the cert?
[22:57] <fulcan> killed
[22:57] <fulcan> dead
[22:58] <carlosandre> can anyone help me with monit configuration?
[22:58] <ikonia> rosevp: ok, so again, pm me the canoncal name of the site you created the SSL certificate with
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> BlessJah: seems to be in gnome-tweak-tool
[22:58] <BlessJah> let me try it
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> BlessJah: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66723/how-do-i-modify-the-power-options
[22:59] <BoJangl`> I'd hate to say this guys but it made me laugh: http://justlold.com/priceless
[23:00] <rosevp> ikonia: just pm'd u what I'm using
[23:00] <BlessJah> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot!
[23:00] <ikonia> rosevp: ahhhh you didn't create the SSL
[23:00] <ikonia> rosevp: thats the issue
[23:00] <ikonia> rosevp: you need to create an SSL certificate for your site
[23:00] <ikonia> that's why it's not matching up
[23:00] <rosevp> but why does the main index and all the js, css work with https: ?
[23:01] <rosevp> I got mismatch browser msg but just continued
[23:01] <rosevp> any other page get 404
[23:02] <ikonia> rosevp: it's not really working if you look at it
[23:02] <ikonia> it's a certificate missmatch
[23:04] <Networked> hey guys, I have a question about installing/removing software
[23:05] <cfedde> from apt it's pretty easy!
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Networked: wassup
[23:06] <rosevp> ikonia: right...but wonder why I can get to index
[23:07] <Networked> ActionParsnip: Basically, I have emacs and emacs23 installed.  I want to completely remove emacs23, so I can completely install emacs24.  When I mark emacs23 for complete removal, synaptic says I have to install emacs23-el ... I don't want to install anything emacs23 if I'm friggin trying to get rid of it
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Networked: try:   sudo apt-get --purge remove emacs*
[23:07] <ikonia> rosevp: because you're accepting the invalid certficate
[23:08] <ikonia> rosevp: but the I suspect the application calls other things, which because it's not interactive can't accept the invalid certivciate so fails
[23:08] <Networked> ActionParsnip: do you have to be in the actual folder to purge properly?
[23:09] <elitenovell> is there any good linux command books
[23:09] <eternal> ls
[23:09] <Networked> ActionParsnip: because I'm running it right now, and it looks like it's only looking in my home folder. It's trying to remove a tar file I have called "emacs-stuff" as a package, which obviously doesn't work
[23:10] <nashant> Anyone know why LVM manager decides to put sdd1 before sdc1??
[23:11] <ikonia> does it matter ?
[23:11] <ikonia> and in what respect "puts it before"
[23:11] <cfedde> you are doing concatination?
[23:17] <g0th> hmm
[23:17] <g0th> I opened alsamixer and muted some stuff, which indeed muted my audio, so I unmuted it again but I couldn't hear anything anymore. Wth is going on?
[23:18] <g0th> Everything in alsamixer is unmuted it seems, I don't understand why this would disable audio
[23:18] <nashant> ikonia: It puts them in the order sda4, sdb1, **sdd1**, sdc1. And I suppose it doesn't REALLY matter, it's just causing my OCD serious pain
[23:18] <ikonia> nashant: what command are you doing to see this, a vgdisplay ?
[23:20] <seba_> hello.  Have a problem. I have a laptop and ubuntu 12.04. Compiz use about 20% cpu in idle ( i have intel i3-380m ) Do you know what i can do to limited this ? Sorry for english ;/
[23:20] <nashant> ikonia: I was using the gui. How do I see it with the terminal?
[23:21] <rosevp> ikonia: that makes sense
[23:21] <rosevp> isn't there a simple way to create a cert for a server; this is just a dev box
[23:23] <ikonia> rosevp: yeah, self signed certificate and make your machine / browser aware of the self signed CA
[23:23] <g0th> I hate the existing sound systems
[23:24] <g0th> you can ruin an evening by just clicking mute + unmute on alsamixer :(
[23:24] <ikonia> g0th: thanks for that pointless comment
[23:24] <g0th> helps me channel my frustration
[23:24] <ikonia> this channel is not here for that
[23:24] <g0th> which channel? :)
[23:24] <g0th> kk
[23:25] <ikonia> this one
[23:26] <rosevp> ikonia: yep that's it....thanks bud!
[23:26] <ikonia> rosevp: nice job
[23:26] <Ogredude> hey I'm getting an http 500 error on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[23:39] <usr13> Ogredude: Hey, I'm not.
[23:40] <yazdmich> is it normal for squashfs to take a while to unpack in unetbootin?
[23:42] <g0th> re
[23:42] <g0th>  I use the latest ubuntu with pulseaudio/alsa, I openend alsamixer, muted some stuff, then unmute the exactly same thing, but now I don't hear anything anymore. Any ideas why????
[23:42] <g0th> I checked: in alsamixer I pressed F5 and unmuted everything and set everything to maximum
[23:43] <usr13> g0th: You must have missed one.  Check again.
[23:43] <g0th> I did
[23:43] <g0th> I also entered amixer
[23:43] <g0th> everything for playback is at 100% or over 80%
[23:43] <g0th> in pavucontrol it shows under Application that some sound is playing
[23:43] <usr13> g0th: play /usr/share/alsa/*  #for test
[23:44] <g0th> under "playback" I meant
[23:44] <usr13> g0th: Find out what it is and stop it
[23:44] <g0th> under "output" it shows something at "audio adapter digital stereo"
[23:44] <g0th> play WARN alsa: can't encode 0-bit Unknown or not applicable
[23:45] <g0th> I don't know what you mean by "play ..."
[23:45] <usr13> lsof |grep snd
[23:46] <usr13>  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[23:46] <g0th> the lsof shows a huge list
[23:46] <usr13> g0th: sudo apt-get install sox
[23:46] <g0th> I mean the grep stuff is still huge
[23:46] <usr13> (sox is  the Swiss Army knife of audio manipulation)
[23:47] <g0th> sox is already installed
[23:47] <usr13>  play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*
[23:47] <g0th> I don't hear anything
[23:47] <usr13> to test....
[23:47] <usr13> So, is it playing the files?
[23:47] <g0th> no
[23:47] <g0th> I hear nothing
[23:47] <usr13> What do you see?
[23:48] <g0th> it tried to play it looks all fine
[23:48] <g0th> but I hear nothing
[23:48] <usr13> g0th: (it should be obvious...) Is it playing the files or not?
[23:48] <g0th> yes it is
[23:48] <g0th> as mentioned I already have a movie running
[23:48] <usr13> g0th: Check your speakers
[23:48] <g0th> and it shows under pavucontrol
[23:48] <g0th> that it is playing
[23:48] <g0th> I didn't touch the speakers
[23:49] <usr13> so when did it quit?
[23:49] <g0th> all I did was mute something in alsamixer
[23:49] <g0th> then unmute it
[23:49] <g0th> but it remained muted
[23:49] <usr13> turn off the player
[23:49] <g0th> I already rebooted
[23:49] <g0th> still no change :(
[23:50] <dcope> is there a driver for multitouch trackpads?
[23:50] <Moon_Doggy> ello ello
[23:50] <usr13> "as mentioned I already have a movie running"  >>>???????
[23:50] <g0th> yes, after the reboot
[23:51] <usr13> g0th: You have a movie playing now?
[23:51] <g0th> hmm, you were right
[23:51] <g0th> alsa requires no running app, I forgot
[23:51] <g0th> now play works
[23:51] <g0th> but the movie player doesn't
[23:51] <usr13> g0th: Stop it. Trun off the video player.
[23:51] <g0th> got it, I forgot, sorry
[23:52] <usr13> g0th: What movie player are you using?
[23:52] <g0th> pulse supports many players but not alsa
[23:52] <g0th> mplayer
[23:52] <usr13> 9 will decrease volume, 0 will increase it.
[23:52] <g0th> or vlc
[23:52] <chintanparikh> Hey people. Ubuntu 12.10 is giving me hell. I've finally got it working (kinda) but I just installed Gnome Shell and my screen resolution is messed up
[23:52] <g0th> or flashplayer
[23:52] <g0th> nothing works
[23:52] <g0th> I know usr13, I was a developer there
[23:53] <usr13> g0th: m  will toggle mute / unmute
[23:53] <chintanparikh> I'm using nomodeset, and I have an AMD Radeon HD 6540G2 graphics card. Last time I tried to install fglrx, it messed up everything and it kept telling me it was booting in low graphics mode (I ended up reinstalling Ubuntu to fix it).  Now, when I was using Unity the screen resolution was fine, but I've just installed Gnome Shell and the screen resolution is 1024x768 (it should be 1366x768). How would I fix this?
[23:53] <g0th> somehow the pulse is messed up
[23:53] <g0th> from using alsamixer
[23:53] <g0th> :(
[23:53] <usr13> g0th: Uninstall it.  sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[23:53] <g0th> I need it
[23:53] <||_The_Last_||> \j #brasil
[23:53] <g0th> several things don't work without it
[23:54] <g0th> e.g. flashplayer has problems
[23:54] <Moon_Doggy> trying to setup courier-imap, when i try to login with thunder bird i get "Configuration could not be verified - is the username or password wrong?", when i try to telnet and login i get "1 NO Login failed."
[23:54] <usr13> g0th: Ok.  I'm out of solutions.
[23:54] <g0th> how do I reconfigure pulseaudio?
[23:54] <g0th> pavucontrol?
[23:54] <g0th> or is there anything else?
[23:54] <usr13> Yea we know that flashplayer has problems.  Tell us something we don't know....  :)
[23:54] <usr13> g0th: You could try dpkg
[23:55] <chintanparikh> Help?
[23:55] <usr13> dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio
[23:55] <x86> wanna code for ubuntu... where to start ?
[23:55] <g0th> that doesn't do much
[23:56] <usr13> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[23:56] <doctorly> Hi, I have ubuntu starting in text mode. When I startx, it hangs on the purple screen without loading anything else. The mouse works, and when I hit the power button, the power options show up, anyone know what Im missing?
[23:57] <seba_> Hi Guys!
[23:57] <usr13> doctorly: 12.04?
[23:57] <seba_> How to turn on auto hide left bar in ubuntu 2d mode ?
[23:57] <doctorly> yeah, it is
[23:58] <usr13> !nomodeset | doctorly
[23:58] <usr13> doctorly: Did it happen after updates?
[23:58] <x86> usr13 : looked the whole site but couldn't really start
[23:58] <doctorly> Im not sure, I set it to text after the updates
[23:59] <chintanparikh> Anyone know how I can change the screen resolution in Ubuntu when the correct resolution doesnt show up in the options?