[00:33] <len-1304> zequence, Not only is nautilus search pretty much useless, but thunar does the same thing any way... just start typing and the first file that matches high lights.
[00:38] <len-1304> catfish which we used to use as file search, does not have a complete list of depends it seems... or the packages it depends on have changed.
[00:38] <len-1304> $ catfish 
[00:38] <len-1304> Error: The required module GError is missing.
[00:51] <zequence> len-1304: Feels like the reasoning might be that a file manager is less usefull these days, when you can do all the searching from a dash (if you have one)
[00:52] <len-1304> zequence, Ya, that is what I was thinking.
[00:52] <zequence> And in the spirit of i*, let the applications keep track of the docs
[00:52] <zequence> Or the files, I mean
[00:52] <len-1304> Not much help for developing or maintaining a system.
[00:53] <len-1304> catfish seems to be broken...
[00:54] <len-1304> Thing is, when you need a tool you need it... even if only once.
[00:56] <len-1304> mlocate is really quick
[01:01] <len-1304> Hmm we have both locate and mlocate installed by default. This is probably bad as each one has a cron task that runs once a day that save all the files names on the drive in a DB.
[01:08] <len-1304> zequence, gnome-search-tool seems to work... seems to have what nautilus now lacks
[08:53] <smartboyhw> Grrrrrrrrr where is the 3.7 (or 3.7.1) kernel for linux-lowlatency???????:(
[09:10] <zequence> There's no hurry for -lowlatency to be updated, since -generic is the same kernel in a respect, and from a testing point of view, at least initially, it's not that crucial for -lowlatency to be in sync
[09:10] <zequence> I'm hoping we can overtake maintenance long before release, so that it will be we who are responsible for this in the future
[09:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, the problem is: I simply can't use the newest kernel, and that gives me for a bad feeling
[09:11] <zequence> smartboyhw: What do you mean you can't use the newest kernel? What in the recent updates are so important for your system?
[11:50] <zequence> I'm getting further in understanding kernel maintenance. Starting with precise, and will be uploading to github
[11:50] <zequence> Next cycle, we'll probably be uploading to a PPA, and sync will be more automated
[12:12] <zequence> smartboyhw: you'll be glad to know that a new 3.7 lowlatency is on the way
[12:29] <smartboyhw> zequence, :D
[12:34] <smartboyhw> zequence, BTW when you do have builds in github tell me to test it:P
[12:34] <smartboyhw> or code or..
[12:35] <zequence> smartboyhw: For the time being, I'm just replicating the work of apw. Once he feels ok with it, he'll use my git tree as source
[12:36] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[12:36]  * smartboyhw has sure confidence in zequence maintaining the kernel:D
[12:37] <zequence> I'm just a monkey with his finger on the script button so far
[12:37] <zequence> But, hopefully in the long run, this will turn out to be a vivid part of Ubuntu Studio development
[12:37] <smartboyhw> zequence, no you're not
[13:15] <smartboyhw> PulseAudio 3.0 released!!!!!
[13:40] <zequence> hmm, yes. Let's hope it's not going to make our lives miserable :P
[13:47] <zequence> There have been times, and I guess it's still true, on account of both PA and systemd, when being him might not be the most thankful position.
[13:48] <zequence> Poettering, I mean
[13:52] <smartboyhw> zequence, ;P
[14:13] <len-1304> smartboyhw, from our point the new kernel has not been a good thing.
[14:14] <len-1304> It seems 2.6 performed better.
[14:20] <zequence> len-1304: All though, I'm not totally sure where the problem lies these days. I recently did some testing on 2.6.38 on a newer release than the original, and it was not much better
[14:21] <len-1304> There may be some system stuff that is getting in the way
[14:21] <zequence> There's most definately a performance diff since when we did testing on 2.6.37, but exactly what is an enigma to me
[14:21] <len-1304> Also, if you build 2.6 now, does it use the kernel modules that were available at the time or the newest kernel modules?
[14:23] <zequence> Only if you build the modules separately, I think. dkms
[14:25] <zequence> But they're still built against the source for the kernel
[14:26] <len-1304> When did upstart appear?
[14:27] <zequence> Read on wikipedia that it might have been for 9.10
[14:32] <smartboyhw> I will one day upload the 3.6.11-rt22 kernel (BTW the 3.6 kernel went EOL) and try to see how it works
[14:32]  * smartboyhw is building pulseaudio 3.0 so that everyone can try it out
[14:33] <smartboyhw> I mean after that I will upload to PPA:D
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Hmm got the package uploaded to PPA, and building:D
[14:56] <zequence> nice work. I might not be as eager as you to try it though. But, let us know if something is not working
[15:01] <smartboyhw> Damn the build failed
[15:01] <smartboyhw> Some problem with bluetooth it seem
[15:01] <smartboyhw> dh_install: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth missing files (usr/lib/pulse-*/modules/module-bluetooth-proximity.so), aborting
[15:01] <smartboyhw> I actually installed this and actually have the file so real weird