[00:55] <heeeiiiko> how do I create launchers in arbitrary directories? (without first creating it on the desktop (right click -> create launcher) and then moving it)
[01:06] <heeeiiiko> is that create launcher dialog a seperate program?
[01:10] <Unit193> heeeiiiko: exo-desktop-item-edit --create-new /path/to/dir/
[01:11] <heeeiiiko> thanks!
[01:14] <Unit193> Hopefully he knows how to setup action items.
[02:32] <WmHobbs> so....I'm pretty much a noob still.I have a question and was wondering if I could get some help: ok so having a prolbem here...we have a xbuntu 12.10 and a vista labtop....I think my linux is doing something to the MAC adress and messing it up for the windows user...Im sure I can hit the reset button on the router but how to I keep the linux from causing the prolbem again?
[02:33] <WmHobbs> two seperate labtops,the way I have it written it looks like I mean one...or I could just be dumb
[02:36] <Unit193> Does this include a second user you can tell to stop messing with the MAC address?  This is the MAC address on the Xubuntu computer, and you know for sure that it is indeed changing?
[02:37] <Unit193> Or that.
[03:29] <mycah> Hi
[03:31] <mycah> I was wondering if someone knew why my logitech mouse would have such a crappy connection with my computer on Xubuntu... If I even place my hand in between the mouse and the dongle, it stops working. Any ideas?
[03:32] <holstein> mycah: driver support.. is it bluetooth?
[03:32] <mycah> No, it's USB. Logitech anywhere mx
[03:33] <holstein> so, it works fine on the same machine in a different OS? and its not bluetooth USB dongle?
[03:34] <mycah> It's the unifying USB from logitech -- I don't think that it is bluetooth. And I haven't experienced it in any other install. I'm using Voyager atm, didn't notice it in vanilla xubuntu
[03:35] <Unit193> Then this is the wrong place for support, I'd guess they have forums?
[03:35] <holstein> voyager is another linux?.. i would look at the kernel.. thats where the drivers are.. and ask them for support for their OS
[03:35] <mycah> Voyager is modded xubuntu. It loads into xubuntu.
[03:36] <mycah> Just comes with applications, etc. and different themes installed
[03:36] <holstein> mycah: i would check the kernel.. if its not our kernel, then that could be it
[03:36] <holstein> mycah: it it were xubuntu, it would be xubuntu.. all it takes is a PPA or a pinned package or 2 and its not ubuntu at all
[03:37] <mycah> Right -- it should be testable in the live version, right?
[03:37] <holstein> mycah: i think that would be a great test for it
[03:38] <mycah> I'll do that and see if there is a difference. Thank you!
[03:39] <Unit193> holstein: http://voyager.legtux.org/ it isn't "Xubuntu"
[03:39] <holstein> Unit193: oh yeah... ive seen that page before
[04:50] <Zelouille> Damn Canonical, Abiword is completely unusable.
[04:51] <pleia2> Zelouille: 1) please don't use that kind of language here, it's rude and inappropriate 2) Canonical has nothing to do with abiword or its inclusion in Xubuntu
[04:51] <pleia2> Xubuntu is a community-maintained project and the simplicity of abiword is plenty for many users
[04:51] <Unit193> He may be talking about using the beta version, which doesn't work that well.
[04:52] <pleia2> not sure why that matters
[04:54] <Zelouille> pleia2: Sorry for the language, and believe me I've rewrited my phrase to stay polite :). Yes, i was talking about the bugged version of Abiword.
[04:55] <pleia2> Zelouille: you probably want to just install libreoffice or upgrade to 12.10
[04:55] <holstein> canonical maintains abiword?
[04:55] <pleia2> (I use libreoffice myself)
[04:55] <pleia2> Canonical has nothing to do with abiword, afaik we pull from Debian
[04:57] <holstein> i havent used abiword in a while either, since i use libreoffice now too, but if i had an issue wit the usability of abiword, i would take it up with the maintainers
[04:59] <Unit193> The issues are well known, the answer was to revert to stable abiword.  https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa was one way to do it. :P
[05:09] <Zelouille> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1019621/comments/2 i was refering to this comment, but yes, maybe it's Debian fault. The bugs of this instable version are well known as you see.
[05:12] <Zelouille> Unit193: Thanks for the ppa, i'll give it a try. I've tried to downgrade using the Oneric repository, but in vain (result was a more crashy abiword).
[05:18] <Zelouille> holstein, pleia2: thanks for your answers, but i'd prefer to stay with Abiword to keep it simple, if possible. This computer is for my grand-mother. I know LibreOffice is way more complete, but maybe too much in this case.
[05:43] <Unit193> Zelouille: Sure, but read the warning on the PPA. :)
[05:54] <Zelouille> Unit193, well, that's *less* experimental than the default abiword version. And i'm not using Xfce4.10. So that should be fine. And it is. Thanks again.
[05:57] <Unit193> Sure.
[08:46] <Leibniz> -
[12:25] <juninsm> good morning
[15:25] <usr13> If one were to want to try out classic gnome, how would that be done? (to Xubuntu 12.04)
[15:26] <usr13> (I have a friend that wants to do it to his laptop. I'm reluctant but...it's his...so.)
[15:26] <ochosi> usr13: i don't think mate is in the ubuntu repositories, so you'd have to look for a ppa
[15:27] <ochosi> (mate is the gnome-fork you're looking for)
[15:29] <usr13> O
[15:30] <bazhang> usr13, gnome-panel
[15:30] <bazhang> !notunity
[15:34] <usr13> I'm seeing:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-classic-gnome-desktop-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise.html so, there are conflicting opinions on how it's done.
[15:35] <usr13> so I should install gnome-shell gnome-tweek-tool and gnome-panel  ?
[15:36] <bazhang> for "classic" just gnome-panel
[15:36] <usr13> And then, I'll have choice between gnome (classic) and xfce?
[15:36] <usr13> so just gnome-panel ?
[15:36] <bazhang> gnome-shell is the alternate shell to unity (shell)
[15:37] <bazhang> tweak tool turns on and off the gnome-shell extensions, among other functions
[15:38] <usr13> So, one would only install gnome-shell if he has unity?  (Installing gnome-shell replaces unity?)
[15:38] <bazhang> no
[15:38] <bazhang> it adds another shell choice
[15:51] <usr13> So, I only need one package, gnome-panel ?
[15:52] <usr13> I'm not understanging what a "shell choice" is.  Can someone explain?
[15:52] <holstein> usr13: what are you wanting to do?
[15:53] <usr13> If one were to want to try out classic gnome, how would that be done? (to Xubuntu 12.04)
[15:54] <usr13> (I have a friend that wants to do it to his laptop. I'm reluctant but...it's his...so.)  I personally prefer xubuntu just the way it is.
[15:55] <usr13> He wants Gnome the way it was in 10.04
[15:55] <v1adimir> gnome schnome
[15:56] <usr13> well put
[15:56] <v1adimir> :s
[15:57] <holstein> usr13: i would probably just try out a live CD running gnome
[15:57] <bazhang> usr13, gnome-panel is the "classic look" gnome.
[15:57] <holstein> usr13: and it should pull in whatever else it needs along with *-panel
[15:58] <holstein> if you literally just want to see gnome, try it live. or fire up something in virtualbox.. otherwise, if you know how to add/remove pacakges and PPA's, you whould be fine
[16:32] <kimkam120> Anyone have any good alteratives to libreoffice?
[16:36] <xubuntu074> Hello everyone, I have a simple question... Does anyone know the minimum system requirements for xubuntu 12.10?
[16:37] <xubuntu074> I have an old system I would like to install it on and I'm not sure if this is the best distro for the old machine lol
[16:39] <bazhang> for a slow / old system Lubuntu might suit better
[16:40] <bazhang> how much ram / what video card /etc xubuntu074
[16:41] <xubuntu074> It has 768MB of RAM and a decent video card with 512MB of RAM
[16:42] <bazhang> lubuntu would probably be suitable with so little ram
[16:42] <xubuntu074> I haven't heard of Lubuntu what's that?
[16:42] <bazhang> !lubuntu
[16:44] <xubuntu074> Perfect just what I'm looking for thank you so much! :)
[16:44] <bazhang> :)
[16:45] <xubuntu074> I have a Mac, Windows box, and an extra old windows box I would love to put linux on because I'm a Python programmer working on some hybrid applications and I need to test them on linux.
[16:46] <xubuntu074> So thanks again for the help. I'm not new to linux I've been using unix based OS's for years but haven't found one that would work for such an old system. :)
[16:49] <xubuntu074> Thanks guys, :)
[18:02] <vhinux> Hello,
[18:03] <vhinux> how enable , envelope indicator plugin  for pidgin and thunderbrid??
[18:04] <knome> vhinux, if you're running xubuntu 12.10, that's unfortunately not possible as mentioned in the release notes
[18:09] <vhinux> Ok, thank you!!!
[18:10] <knome> np
[18:13] <linuxpcplus> After I installed Xubuntu on my nx6310, I ran the update manager, then in synaptic I reloaded packages & ran all updates. Yet I still only find older versions of most applications. For examples: Gimp 2.6, Kdenlive 0.8.2, Audacity 2.0.0 How do I get the repos to update wtih the same package versions that are available in Ubuntu 12.04 & 12.10, both of which have more recent packages? Yes, I am aware that I can manually update all
[18:15] <davethefan> try updating the /etc/apt/sources.list to the new version ?
[18:18] <linuxpcplus> Nobody here that can help?
[18:18] <Pici> linuxpcplus: What release of Xubuntu are you using currently?
[18:19] <linuxpcplus> Pici I am using 12.04
[18:20] <linuxpcplus> I always prefer the current LTS.
[18:21] <Pici> linuxpcplus: The version numbers that you list are the latest versions available in 12.04.
[18:22] <linuxpcplus> Really? I am pretty sure Gimp 2.8 is available in Ubuntu 12.04, as is Kdenlive 0.9.2 Unless I am mistaken. But let me double check.
[18:23] <Pici> 2.6.12-1ubuntu1.2 is the latest version in 12.04 (with security updates), and 2.8.2-1ubuntu1.1 in 12.10
[18:23] <Pici> !info gimp precise
[18:24] <linuxpcplus> Pici: Yes, so I now see. I stand corrected!
[18:25] <linuxpcplus> Pici: my apologies for wasting your time!
[18:25] <Pici> linuxpcplus: no problem at all.
[18:25] <linuxpcplus> Thanks for offering your help Pici!
[18:26] <linuxpcplus> Pici: I guess I will hav eto upgrade via the ppa's. Thank the gods for Y PPA Manager! LOL!
[18:30] <linuxpcplus> Pici, one other question:
[18:30] <linuxpcplus> Pici: is it possible to pullin the 12.10 repo packages into 12.04
[18:31] <linuxpcplus> Would sure save time from ppa work! LOL!
[18:42] <clear`> anyone have any recommendation for business software, i need to keep up with clients, invoices and payments
[18:49] <davethefan> clear: try 'kraft' ?
[18:50] <Catbuntu> hi
[18:50] <davethefan> hi
[18:50] <clear`> i currently use quickbooks, i want to get away from it, i dont use it enough for the hundreds it costs
[18:51] <clear`> i will look into kraft
[18:52] <davethefan> i've not used it personally, it's one that comes to mind for invoices  and communication documents - aimed at small businesses
[18:53] <clear`> thanks davethefan
[18:57] <davethefan> no problem clear - hope it suits your needs
[18:57] <clear`> i have looked at xero and online quickbooks
[18:57] <clear`> still looking at $20/m with those
[18:58] <blackgatonegro> it seems PC users are now dinosaurs
[19:24] <holstein> clear`: i would look at some online services
[19:24] <holstein> mint is popular... i make my own invoices in Gdocs, though i dont have a lot of volume
[19:29] <qasim> recording services are not functioning on my linux.. i cant voice chat over skype and not even record any sound clip ..help please
[19:29] <qasim> !recording
[19:30] <qasim> !audio
[19:32] <qasim> hmm
[19:34] <qasim> how to troubleshoot mic setting problems?
[19:36] <qasim> anyone knows how to set up input devices?
[19:48] <clear`> holstein: mint does business services now?
[21:11] <alice__> hey. anyone here?
[21:12] <TheSheep> no
[21:12] <TheSheep> just us, chickens
[21:12] <alice__> i need help with compiling airlive wireless adapter driver
[21:12] <TheSheep> just ask your question
[21:13] <alice__> when i get to step ./configure it says that there's no such file or dir
[21:13] <TheSheep> what were the previous steps?
[21:13] <alice__> tar zxf file.tar.gz
[21:13] <alice__> cd file
[21:14] <alice__> that two
[21:14] <TheSheep> ok, type 'ls -al' and pastebin the result
[21:14] <TheSheep> an address to the pastebin is in the topic
[21:15] <alice__> drwxr-xr-x 4 caspix caspix    4096 2012-12-18 19:45 .
[21:15] <alice__> drwxr-xr-x 3 caspix caspix    4096 2012-12-18 19:41 ..
[21:15] <alice__> drwx------ 2 caspix caspix    4096 2010-08-23 04:01 ieee80211
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix      54 2010-08-23 04:01 ifcfg-wlan0
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix    1373 2010-08-23 04:01 Makefile
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix     545 2010-08-23 04:01 RadioPower.sh
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix   12345 2010-08-23 04:01 ReadMe
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix    5888 2010-08-23 04:01 release_note
[21:15] <alice__> drwx------ 2 caspix caspix    4096 2011-12-09 04:48 rtl8187
[21:15] <TheSheep> use a pastebin please
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix     291 2010-08-23 04:01 wlan0dhcp
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix     618 2010-08-23 04:01 wlan0down
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix     939 2010-08-23 04:01 wlan0up
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix     234 2010-08-23 04:01 wpa1.conf
[21:15] <alice__> -rwxr-xr-x 1 caspix caspix 1623520 2010-08-23 04:01 wpa_supplicant-0.5.5.zip
[21:16] <alice__> i need to download it as text when i paste it?
[21:16] <alice__> or...?
[21:16] <Pici> !pastebin
[21:17] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448515/
[21:17] <alice__> thx :) :$
[21:18] <TheSheep> alice__: looks like the is no configure script there
[21:18] <TheSheep> alice__: just type 'make'
[21:18] <TheSheep> alice__: and press enter
[21:19] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448523/
[21:19] <alice__> eror
[21:20] <TheSheep> are you following some guide?
[21:20] <TheSheep> where did you get that tar.gz file from?
[21:20] <alice__> the guy from airlive sent me
[21:21] <TheSheep> alice__: can you type 'uname -a' and say what it says?
[21:22] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448532/
[21:23] <alice__> speak you any balkan language? (i saw your name is radomir)
[21:24] <TheSheep> alice__: nope, polish
[21:24] <alice__> ok :)
[21:24] <alice__> so what should i do with this driver?
[21:25] <TheSheep> alice__: try doing 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic', that should install the kernel headers
[21:25] <TheSheep> then try 'make' again
[21:25] <alice__> same again
[21:26] <TheSheep> alice__: 'ls /lib/modules' ?
[21:27] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448549/
[21:28] <TheSheep> alice__: ok, then do 'sudo mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.32-32-generic/build', then 'chown caspix.caspix /lib/modules/2.6.32-32-generic/build'
[21:29] <TheSheep> sorry, that last one should be with sudo too
[21:29] <TheSheep> then try make again
[21:29] <Makdaam> hello
[21:29] <alice__> i did that. what now?
[21:29] <TheSheep> alice__: now 'make' should work
[21:30] <TheSheep> or return a different error
[21:30] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448560/
[21:31] <TheSheep> hmm, ok, looks like it expects you to build the whole kernel yourself, and then build that module
[21:31] <alice__> ha???
[21:32] <TheSheep> it requires some files from the kernel
[21:32] <TheSheep> !kernel
[21:32] <TheSheep> those are the instructions for building the kernel
[21:32] <TheSheep> it's easier than it seems
[21:32] <alice__> i have some read me file here but i dont understand what i need to do.. should i copy you that?
[21:33] <Makdaam> could you link me to the module you're trying to build? I joined half way in.
[21:33] <alice__> what module? i'm trying to install driver
[21:34] <TheSheep> alice__: a driver is a kernel module
[21:34] <alice__> TheSheep http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448581/ this is my readme file
[21:34] <alice__> oups :)
[21:35] <TheSheep> yeah
[21:36] <alice__> what yeah, do i really have to compile kernel now?
[21:36] <TheSheep> alice__: so, a friend tells me that this driver is in the kernel already
[21:36] <TheSheep> alice__: I mean by default
[21:36] <alice__> are you sure?
[21:36] <TheSheep> alice__: so you shouldn't need to compile it yourself
[21:37] <alice__> then what i need to do to make device work?
[21:37] <TheSheep> alice__: you will need that wpa supplicant thing
[21:38] <TheSheep> alice__: say, what is your wireless card exactly?
[21:38] <TheSheep> alice__: you can check with 'lspci'
[21:38] <alice__> this adapter or wireless card?
[21:38] <TheSheep> the thing you need the driver for
[21:39] <TheSheep> also, did you try to install it using the xubuntu's system->hardware drivers  tool?
[21:39] <alice__> i dont see it here
[21:39] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448593/
[21:39] <alice__> no i didnt
[21:40] <TheSheep> is that an usb dongle?
[21:40] <alice__> usb wireless adapter airlive wl1700
[21:40] <TheSheep> then try 'lsusb'
[21:41] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448597/
[21:41] <alice__> the huawei is my usb internet modem i'm using now
[21:42] <alice__> should i try to reboot my computer maybe then it'll recognize adapter?
[21:42] <TheSheep> I found this
[21:42] <TheSheep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904757
[21:43] <TheSheep> its not exactly the same id as yours
[21:44] <alice__> ok i'll try then to follow those steps
[21:44] <Makdaam> alice__: I believe you might have mentioned that before but what's your kernel version?
[21:44] <Makdaam> uname -a
[21:44] <alice__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448603/
[21:45] <alice__> but i'll try reboot first. here you in a min
[21:47] <alice__> i'm back
[21:47] <alice__> but still no change... i'll try follow steps on forum
[21:48] <qasim> can anyone help me configuring  my mic settings?
[21:48] <alice__> but the guy on the forum has installed his driver, and i'm not?
[21:48] <TheSheep> qasim: what are you stuck at?
[21:48] <Makdaam> qasim: I've been through alsa hell several times and back, what seems to be the problem?
[21:48] <qasim> good
[21:49] <qasim> i cant do vc over skype nor i can record voice clips through voice recorder
[21:50] <qasim> and the icon of volume setting has disappeared from the task bar
[21:50] <Makdaam> have you tried running alsamixer and unmuting the mic?
[21:51] <Makdaam> or pavucontrol?
[21:51] <qasim> i checked alsamixer site
[21:51] <qasim> but
[21:51] <qasim> the prob is different
[21:51] <Makdaam> ok
[21:52] <qasim> as i could do vc over skype without alsa mixer
[21:52] <Makdaam> mhm
[21:52] <alice__> i can't follow these steps on forum... it's not same as main problem
[21:53] <TheSheep> alice__: I see, sorry
[21:53] <qasim> atleast temm me how to get volume icon on the task bar
[21:53] <qasim> tell me*
[21:54] <TheSheep> qasim: right-click on the panel, select 'panel->add to panel', and then drag-and-drop the speaker icon from the list to your panel
[21:54] <Makdaam> what TheSheep said
[21:54] <qasim> thx heaps
[21:55] <vorsorken> Has anyone used Eagle on Xubuntu 12.10?
[21:55] <Makdaam> yes
[21:55] <Makdaam> vorsorken: yes
[21:56] <qasim> i cant see speakers icon there :(
[21:56] <vorsorken> Makdaam: I'm getting some problems with the edit screen not updating correctly
[21:56] <vorsorken> I used the shell script on Cadsoft's website to install 6.3.0 but it happened in an earlier version from the package manager as well
[21:57] <Makdaam> vorsorken: I'm afraid I can't help you :(
[21:57] <vorsorken> alright no problem
[21:58] <vorsorken> screenshot of the issue anyway: http://i.imgur.com/D3ZBz.png
[21:58] <TheSheep> qasim: looks like the mixer applet has been replaced with the indicator plugin
[21:58] <qasim> which means?
[21:59] <Makdaam> I have a problem with tilda terminal window not refreshing after backspace or clearscreen
[21:59] <TheSheep> qasim: you can either try to get the indicator to display that speaker icon back (but I don't know how), or you can install xfce4-mixer and then the speaker will appear on that list
[21:59] <qasim> kool
[21:59] <qasim> lol
[21:59] <TheSheep> Makdaam: can you pastebin `echo $TERM`?
[22:00] <qasim> i clicked over indicator plugin and it showd me the icon of speakers
[22:00] <qasim> thanks
[22:00] <Makdaam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448641/
[22:01] <TheSheep> Makdaam: looks like there is a bug
[22:01] <qasim> guys now im using IRC chat ...still i would be requiring paste bin for pasting terminal commands?
[22:01] <Makdaam> TheSheep: that's what I told you just a second ago over the mecha-sonical channel
[22:02] <TheSheep> qasim: actually pastebin is useful for multiple lines
[22:02] <TheSheep> qasim: it's just easier
[22:02] <TheSheep> qasim: it's basically a website, where you can paste your text and then paste the url here for everyone to see
[22:02] <qasim> right
[22:04] <TheSheep> alice__: I have to go, sorry, but I really don't know any easier way for compiling that driver, maybe you could ask the guy who provided you that file for help
[22:04] <alice__> ok.
[22:05] <qasim> how to get my mic settings right?
[22:05] <qasim> i was talking to my friend and it crashed and since then im unable to use mic
[22:06] <TheSheep> qasim: there are two places you can look
[22:06] <v1adimir> alt+f4 logout and reboot 2 reset your session
[22:06] <TheSheep> qasim: one is the alsamixer
[22:06] <qasim> ahan
[22:06] <TheSheep> qasim: and the second is the pulseaudio volume control
[22:07] <TheSheep> qasim: in the media in the menu
[22:07] <Makdaam> qasim: pavucontrol
[22:07] <qasim> i tried changing pulse audio volume control settings but it dint work
[22:07] <qasim> i dont have alsa mixer
[22:07] <TheSheep> qasim: start with alsa, because it is closer to hardware
[22:07] <qasim> dont know what poavucontrol is
[22:08] <TheSheep> qasim: just open a terminal and type 'alsamixer'
[22:08] <qasim> right
[22:08] <Makdaam> qasim: pavucontrol - PulseAudio VolUme CONTROL
[22:08] <Makdaam> qasim: you can run it from the terminal
[22:09] <TheSheep> qasim: oh, also make sure that in skype preferences you have pulsaudio chosen as the audio source
[22:09] <qasim> i can see alsa mixer
[22:09] <qasim> yeah
[22:09] <qasim> its pulse audio
[22:09] <TheSheep> qasim: ok, so there is a number of different channels, you can switch them with arrows
[22:09] <qasim> i can even record sounds
[22:09] <qasim> through sound recorders
[22:09] <TheSheep> but you can't talk?
[22:09] <TheSheep> through skype
[22:10] <qasim> so its kinda configuration prob
[22:10] <qasim> yeah my mic doesnt work
[22:10] <qasim> i cant even record sounds***
[22:11] <TheSheep> first make sure that the 'mic' and 'mic boost' channels are not muted in alsamixer (don't have MM at the bottom) and have non-zero volume
[22:11] <qasim> correction..
[22:11] <qasim> they have mm
[22:11] <TheSheep> you can mute/unmute a channel by pressing 'm' when it is selected
[22:11] <TheSheep> and change volume with the up and down arrows
[22:30] <qasim> alright, i can recor and play back sound clips..but i still cant skype
[22:30] <qasim> record
[22:40] <vorsorken> Makdaam: I forgot to mention with my Eagle problem that I'm on 64-bit 12.10. Just out of curiosity, are you running 32-bit and have no problems with Eagle?
[23:30] <holstein> clear`: i would check the site.. i think it just depends on what will meet your needs