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kokoye2007hello08:22
kokoye2007who is know today 12:00 meeting ?08:23
kokoye2007Hello08:31
kokoye2007Joeb454,08:40
dholbachkokoye2007, if you are referring to 12:00 UTC, that's in 2h40m (try 'date -u' in a terminal)09:20
kokoye2007:(09:21
kokoye2007dholbach, Ok09:21
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kokoye2007cyphermox, Hi11:36
kokoye2007Pendulum, Hi11:36
kokoye2007Dear Sitting Member Today meeting or not ?Destine Pendulum cyphermox head_victim fenris  amachu Ekushey micahg11:38
kokoye2007Hello all11:49
kokoye2007Hello head_victim  :(11:49
head_victimkokoye2007: we're just trying to assemble the board, there are two of us here, we need 4.12:03
kokoye2007ok head_victim12:03
head_victim!rmb12:03
ubottuPING! beuno, cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, head_victim, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, n0rman, Pendulum, PabloRubienes. Meeting time.12:03
kokoye2007thx head_victim i am wait this time :D12:04
DestineI am here.12:05
kokoye2007thx Destine & head_victim :S12:10
head_victimkokoye2007: not that it helps much but your testimonials are looking heaps better12:14
kokoye2007txh head_victim when you free12:15
kokoye2007our country Feb-2013 at 3 city - Barcamp12:15
kokoye2007but i can't member this time again @_@ head_victim :(12:17
head_victimkokoye2007: we're waiting on one more, we have someone to fill in if need be.12:17
kokoye2007thx head_victim12:18
kokoye2007you can also see flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-mm12:20
cjohnstonkokoye2007: you may want to edit your page a little.. there are some conflicts12:21
kokoye2007yes12:21
kokoye2007bcz some one is edit pages is long open and publish. so 2 comment is lost< so back and after this guy publish12:22
kokoye2007you can check in history12:22
cjohnstonI understand.. I'm not saying its a problem, just saying it would look cleaner :-)12:23
kokoye2007itlulin <John Major, Zaw Min Aung> itlulin12:23
kokoye2007thx cjohnston12:24
kokoye2007how can i do that ?12:25
cjohnstonkokoye2007: are they all in order and correct, just it says conflict?12:26
kokoye2007now edit that12:26
cjohnstonkokoye2007: if you click edit, you can move things around and remove the lines that say conflict12:28
kokoye2007thx you cjohnston :)12:28
cjohnstonnp12:28
kokoye2007now clear12:30
head_victimNice work12:30
head_victimOne last one in case we get some more12:32
head_victim!rmb12:32
ubottuPING! beuno, cjohnston, cyphermox, Destine, ejat, head_victim, hggdh, IdleOne, iulian, micahg, n0rman, Pendulum, PabloRubienes. Meeting time.12:32
kokoye2007next 5 day - 2 day short course again12:33
kokoye2007sorry coming 27-28 and 29-30 at 2 day course , 2 time12:33
kokoye2007Ubuntu for Everyone (free course)12:34
kokoye2007if you want any suggestion ? head_victim cjohnston12:35
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head_victimkokoye2007: just make sure there's enough people helping out to make it enjoyable for all :) It's never as much fun when one person does it all.12:38
kokoye2007:)12:39
head_victimkokoye2007: sorry for the issues we've been experiencing. We're goign to have to work out something because you've obviously taken on board the advice and your wiki is now very well prepared.12:45
kokoye2007thx head_victim12:45
kokoye2007when we can try12:45
kokoye2007now i subscribe12:45
kokoye2007Member Wiki Pages12:46
kokoye2007:|12:46
kokoye2007thx head_victim cjohnston Destine12:47
head_victimkokoye2007: I'll try to get something raised internally to try and work something out12:47
cjohnstonsorry kokoye200712:47
kokoye2007nvm dear i can try for ubuntu since from 2009 :P so 1 month is nvm12:50
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* slangasek waves16:00
stokachuo/16:00
jodho/16:00
evhi16:00
slangasek#startmeeting16:00
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Dec 19 16:00:59 2012 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
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* stgraber waves16:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:01
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)16:01
slangasekogra stgraber barry cjwatson xnox jodh doko stokachu slangasek bdmurray ev16:01
evwin!16:01
slangasekogra's busy sunning himself on a ski slope somewhere, so stgraber16:02
stgraber - Upstart16:02
stgraber  - 3 days sprint (Monday -> Wednesday)16:02
stgraber  - Got prctl branch merged.16:02
stgraber  - libnih 'as' type fix merged and uploaded.16:02
stgraber  - Various fixes to the tests to allow for reliable daily builds on virt and non-virt builders.16:02
stgraber  - Got upstart-dbus-events merged.16:02
stgraber  - Wrote new upstart-event-bridge, currently waiting for review/merge.16:02
stgraber - Container16:02
stgraber  - Usual code reviews.16:02
stgraber  - Release 0.9~alpha1 (and 0.9~alpha2 because of some communication problems ;))16:02
stgraber  - Built a custom kernel to test for the uevent fix when network devices are moved to other namespaces.16:02
stgraber  - Sent fix for LXC on nexus7 to the kernel team.16:02
stgraber  - Started working on some changes to LXC upstream to allow building with alternate libc implementation (testing with bionic).16:02
stgraber - Other16:02
stgraber  - Spent some time debugging a rather odd biosdevname issue, looks like it was a firmware issue on the specific machine.16:02
stgraber  - Did some UEFI SecureBoot tests, running a locally built and signed shim.16:02
stgraber  - Patch pilot on Friday.16:02
stgraber - TODO16:02
stgraber  - Implement user socket for upstart session (to be used before dbus is started).16:02
stgraber  - Cleanup and send a bunch of lxc patches for review (split libcap, bionic support, ...).16:02
stgraber  - Go through the isc-dhcp and resolvconf bugs.16:02
stgraber  - Try to apply redhat's fiberchannel patchset to our isc-dhcp.16:02
stgraber - Holidays16:02
stgraber  - I'm working tomorrow (European time) and then will be off until the 2nd of January.16:02
stgraber(DONE)16:03
barrydebian bug 695707 (virtualenv broken, with fixes for python2.7 #695958 and 3.3 #695959 proposed).  emacs bug 12765.  worked on whoosh for py3 (needs upstream fixes).  debugging friends service crashes for internal customer. done.16:03
ubottuDebian bug 695707 in libpython2.7-stdlib "[libpython2.7-stdlib] Breaks python-virtualenv" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/69570716:03
ubottubug 12765 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Use full resolution thumbnails on desktop" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1276516:03
cjwatsonMostly on leave and/or in a virus-induced haze this week.  On leave for the rest of the year starting Thursday afternoon.16:03
cjwatsonFixed incorrect colours in d-i images (bug 1089331).16:04
ubottubug 1089331 in cdebconf (Ubuntu) "ubuntu server d-i installer is blue, not purple" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108933116:04
cjwatsonTest-built all libssl-dev reverse-build-dependencies with a couple of different candidate patches for making libssl-dev Multi-Arch: same:16:04
cjwatson - Moving all headers to /usr/include/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) caused far too many failures (67).16:04
cjwatson - Moving just <openssl/opensslconf.h> causes two failures in unstable, both of which are easily tractable.  I've filed bugs with patches for both.16:04
cjwatsonWorking again on britney/autopkgtest integration, with Jean-Baptiste's help.  Not sure if I'll have something by EOY but we'll see.16:04
cjwatsonWorking on powerpc image changes requested by Ben Collins.16:04
cjwatson..16:04
xnox* upstart sprint:16:04
xnox - finish xdg config dirs branch, now merged16:04
xnox - progressing on overrides from any config dir16:04
xnox - fixing unit tests & daily builds / adt16:04
xnox - refactor fixes from lp:ubuntu/libnih & propose them into lp:libnih16:04
xnoxSprint progress at http://pad.ubuntu.com/j5DPzIp5KP16:04
xnox* started cross-building fixes spree (3.5 so far, but it's fun)16:04
xnox..16:05
jodh* Upstart Sprint: http://pad.ubuntu.com/j5DPzIp5KP16:05
jodh16:05
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evsurely that's cheating16:05
stokachudifferent area codes so its ok16:05
* jodh rummages for generate-random-buzzwords.pl...16:05
stokachuat least thats what ive been told16:05
doko- updated armhf cross toolchain16:06
doko- built arm64 and powerpc biarch cross toolchains16:06
doko- rewritten gcc control.m4 to make it easier to use runtime libs for the target arch, both for 4.7 NS 4.816:06
doko- fixing gcc-4.8 (upstream) build and install issues.16:06
doko- GCC 4.8 ppa now ready for the test rebuild16:06
doko(done)16:06
stokachu- dput uploaded (bug 633109) needs approval16:06
stokachu- packaged firefox-esr 10/17 (this took up all of my time)16:06
stokachu- applied for Contributing Developer http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdamStokes (testimonies welcomed :D)16:06
stokachu- Started backport process for sssd/sudo to Precise because of the new sudo ldap+caching features16:06
stokachu  introduced. Still going through the rdeps list for sudo to see what needs to be tested.16:06
ubottubug 633109 in dput (Ubuntu Precise) "No progress bar for sftp uploads" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63310916:06
stokachu- I expect high visibility bugs from me to pick back up at beginning of new year.16:06
stokachu 16:06
stokachu..16:06
slangasekstokachu: hmm, you're only applying for contributing developer?16:09
slangasekI thought this was for core dev16:09
stokachuslangasek: micah recommended i did that16:09
slangasekbut contributing developer gives you no upload rights :)16:09
stokachuslangasek: what membership board should i apply to16:10
* xnox thought contributing is a bit on the low side. Motu or core-dev is better.16:10
slangasekwell, we can harrass micahg (and stgraber) about this afterwards16:10
slangasekstokachu: the membership board is the DMB in all cases16:11
xnoxand ogra and barry =)16:11
stokachuslangasek: ok cool just point me in the right direction b/c i wasn't totally sure16:11
stokachuslangasek: it was initially posted to the main membership board16:11
barrystokachu: or ppu16:11
evso what do you get by being a contributing developer if you don't get upload rights? A nice fruit basket?16:11
barry(per-package upload rights)16:11
slangasekbut it doesn't seem optimal to me to go through the process for contributing developer if you're going to be applying for core-dev shortly regardless16:12
slangasekev: Ubuntu Membership16:12
slangasekfruit basket optional16:12
ev...16:12
stokachuslangasek: looks like i can just add my name to the core dev in the agenda16:12
evoh dear16:12
stokachuapplying is the same it looks like16:12
barrystokachu: different secret handshake16:13
xnoxstokachu: yeah process is the same for all developer levels.16:13
stgraberstokachu: yeah, same board, different agenda item. Just move your application to coredev.16:13
stokachustgraber: do i need to resend out an email to the list?16:13
slangasekstokachu: yes; though we should figure out why micahg is still steering you away from core-dev, since he gets to vote on the question of whether you get in ;)16:13
stokachumy original one said core dev16:13
stgraberstokachu: coredev will give you ubuntu membership automatically, so no need to first apply for contributing developer.16:13
stgraberstokachu: just reply to your e-mail to devel-permissions saying that you instead want to be considered for coredev.16:14
barryhe prepares harder questions for coredev applicants :)16:14
slangasekstokachu: if informal polling of the DMB suggests you're not ready for core-dev, you probably want to find out what more they want to see from you, and focus on that so you don't have to go through the process twice16:14
stokachuok16:14
stgraberstokachu: I haven't looked at your recent history, but last I checked the only thing that was missing was the "sustained" part which has definitely be solved since ;)16:15
slangasekI guess it's my turn to spam the channel16:15
stgraber(as I remember you last poking me 6 months or so ago)16:15
* xnox did go contributing -> core-dev jump. But I did apply for contributing dev way back when i was "green"16:15
slangasek * Following up on Samsung laptop EFI bricking; looking like we may want to disable samsung-laptop module as a workaround16:15
slangasek * UEFI Secure Boot updates.  Latest upstream version of gnu-efi+shim give a black screen and a reboot.  Still tracking down.16:15
slangasek * Doing my "fix 5 package cross-builds" work item; for one of them, fixed valac for use as a cross-build-dep16:15
slangasek * Working on gobject-introspection porting to python3, possibly tackling the cross-build-dep problem after that16:15
slangasek(done)16:15
slangasekev:16:16
evoh hi16:16
cjwatsonslangasek: did you have a look to see whether any of the packages in question improved in the latest cross-builder run?16:16
ev- Going on holiday tomorrow. I'll be back in January. Have a wonderful holiday16:16
ev  and New Year!16:16
ev- The retracers have been moved to autorestart hell, as they were bothering16:16
ev  webops too much on the weekends. This was mostly because a Cassandra node was16:16
ev  taken down, which was causing timeouts. Still, we'll need to make the16:16
ev  retracers more resilient to database failure if we want to get them back into16:16
ev  a normal service operation.16:16
ev  - The queue is still massive (~6-8k per arch). We've started to remove some16:16
ev    cores from it and Tom is working on getting Rabbit queue size hooked up to16:16
ev    graphite (http://graphite.engineering.ubuntu.com). Trying to get everything16:16
ev    ready for prodstack as quickly as possible to better remedy this.16:16
ev- Spent much of the week getting our charms and daisy in shape for deployment16:16
ev  to prodstack, following the advice that Tom gave in RT 58019.16:16
ev  - Fought gunicorn to the death. Discovered the hard way that gunicorn from16:16
ev    precise is busted. Backported from Quantal.16:16
ev  - Refactored our separate wsgi scripts for receiving crash reports and core16:16
ev    dumps, unifying them under a single wsgi service and merging in the S316:16
slangasekcjwatson: I didn't save the 'before' view :)16:16
ev    support along the way. This makes running them under the gunicorn16:16
ev    subordinate charm a lot easier.16:16
ev  - Taught the daisy charm to handle multiple Cassandra nodes coming and going.16:16
ev  - Daisy is *almost* ready. I just need to wire the Apache frontends to the16:16
ev    HAProxy instances. Everything else seems to be working. Getting the16:16
ev    retracer and Errors charms updated should be largely a matter of copying16:16
ev    code around.16:16
ev- Worked a bit with Brian to dig at why getBugSubscriberPackages was not16:16
ev  returning anything. Brian ultimately tracked down the root cause.16:16
ev(done)16:16
cjwatsonslangasek: or "succeeded", even16:17
everr graphite.engineering.canonical.com16:17
slangasekany questions on status?16:18
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:18
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slangasekanyone have any plans for the end of the world on Friday?16:18
cjwatsonI was planning to go to the pub tomorrow evening, if that counts :P16:19
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slangasekhttps://plus.google.com/u/1/103242523324036094862/posts/AKBdNSnyrv516:19
barry+116:19
stokachulol16:20
slangasek:-)16:20
* xnox is flying the day after, so I will be packing and doing last minute shopping.16:20
stgraber:)16:20
stokachuas long as we dont get an emp from a solar flare and i can still get on the internet im good16:20
slangasekok, sounds like that's it for the year then :)16:21
slangasekhappy holidays, everyone!  don't drink too much eggnog16:21
slangasek(drink just the right amount of eggnog)16:21
slangasek#endmeeting16:21
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Dec 19 16:21:28 2012 UTC.16:21
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eveww16:21
evthanks!16:21
stokachuhappy holidays n stuff16:21
stgraberthanks!16:21
xnoxcheers!16:21
stokachucya16:21
barrythanks!16:21
cjwatsonmerry Christmas :)16:22
jodhcheers16:23
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kokoye2007head_victim,16:55
kokoye2007some one is send to me16:55
kokoye2007cjohnston,16:56
kokoye2007hello cjohnston ?16:56
cjohnstonhey kokoye200716:56
kokoye2007cjohnston, now we can ? or not16:57
kokoye2007dinner is over now :D16:57
kokoye2007thx for your mail16:58
cjohnstonkokoye2007, we went a different route... We are doing this by email for you... So by 2200 UTC on Friday 12/21 the vote will be complete, that way you don't have to stick around tonight and don't have to come to the next meeting16:58
kokoye200722:00 meeting ?16:59
cjohnstonno.. no meeting.. 2200 UTC is the deadline for the board members to vote... We will email you after 2200 UTC on Friday to let you know the results16:59
kokoye2007aww thx sir16:59
cjohnstonSo you don't have to come back for another meeting16:59
cjohnstonwe will take care of it all and let you know ASAP17:00
kokoye2007real thx cjohnston17:00
kokoye2007our UTC is +6:3017:00
cjohnstonI know.. its like 2330 for you now?17:00
kokoye2007so 22:00 + 6:30 = 4:3017:00
kokoye2007yes17:00
kokoye2007but i ever sleep 1:00 or 2 am17:01
kokoye2007thx for your kind and regard17:01
cjohnstonNot a problem. Sorry it's been such a difficult road for you.17:01
kokoye2007i wanna become Ubuntu Member bcz of other user to improve to Ubuntu Member and Developer17:02
kokoye2007start from me17:02
cjohnstonabsolutly17:03
kokoye2007sorry disconnect17:08
kokoye2007cjohnston,17:08
cjohnstonnp17:09
kokoye2007thx u cjohnston17:12
cjohnstonnot a problem17:12
kokoye2007i am waiting news from there17:12
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