[08:22] <kokoye2007> hello
[08:23] <kokoye2007> who is know today 12:00 meeting ?
[08:31] <kokoye2007> Hello
[08:40] <kokoye2007> Joeb454,
[09:20] <dholbach> kokoye2007, if you are referring to 12:00 UTC, that's in 2h40m (try 'date -u' in a terminal)
[09:21] <kokoye2007> :(
[09:21] <kokoye2007> dholbach, Ok
[11:36] <kokoye2007> cyphermox, Hi
[11:36] <kokoye2007> Pendulum, Hi
[11:38] <kokoye2007> Dear Sitting Member Today meeting or not ?Destine Pendulum cyphermox head_victim fenris  amachu Ekushey micahg
[11:49] <kokoye2007> Hello all
[11:49] <kokoye2007> Hello head_victim  :(
[12:03] <head_victim> kokoye2007: we're just trying to assemble the board, there are two of us here, we need 4.
[12:03] <kokoye2007> ok head_victim
[12:03] <head_victim> !rmb
[12:04] <kokoye2007> thx head_victim i am wait this time :D
[12:05] <Destine> I am here.
[12:10] <kokoye2007> thx Destine & head_victim :S
[12:14] <head_victim> kokoye2007: not that it helps much but your testimonials are looking heaps better
[12:15] <kokoye2007> txh head_victim when you free
[12:15] <kokoye2007> our country Feb-2013 at 3 city - Barcamp
[12:17] <kokoye2007> but i can't member this time again @_@ head_victim :(
[12:17] <head_victim> kokoye2007: we're waiting on one more, we have someone to fill in if need be.
[12:18] <kokoye2007> thx head_victim
[12:20] <kokoye2007> you can also see flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-mm
[12:21] <cjohnston> kokoye2007: you may want to edit your page a little.. there are some conflicts
[12:21] <kokoye2007> yes
[12:22] <kokoye2007> bcz some one is edit pages is long open and publish. so 2 comment is lost< so back and after this guy publish
[12:22] <kokoye2007> you can check in history
[12:23] <cjohnston> I understand.. I'm not saying its a problem, just saying it would look cleaner :-)
[12:23] <kokoye2007> itlulin <John Major, Zaw Min Aung> itlulin
[12:24] <kokoye2007> thx cjohnston
[12:25] <kokoye2007> how can i do that ?
[12:26] <cjohnston> kokoye2007: are they all in order and correct, just it says conflict?
[12:26] <kokoye2007> now edit that
[12:28] <cjohnston> kokoye2007: if you click edit, you can move things around and remove the lines that say conflict
[12:28] <kokoye2007> thx you cjohnston :)
[12:28] <cjohnston> np
[12:30] <kokoye2007> now clear
[12:30] <head_victim> Nice work
[12:32] <head_victim> One last one in case we get some more
[12:32] <head_victim> !rmb
[12:33] <kokoye2007> next 5 day - 2 day short course again
[12:33] <kokoye2007> sorry coming 27-28 and 29-30 at 2 day course , 2 time
[12:34] <kokoye2007> Ubuntu for Everyone (free course)
[12:35] <kokoye2007> if you want any suggestion ? head_victim cjohnston
[12:38] <head_victim> kokoye2007: just make sure there's enough people helping out to make it enjoyable for all :) It's never as much fun when one person does it all.
[12:39] <kokoye2007> :)
[12:45] <head_victim> kokoye2007: sorry for the issues we've been experiencing. We're goign to have to work out something because you've obviously taken on board the advice and your wiki is now very well prepared.
[12:45] <kokoye2007> thx head_victim
[12:45] <kokoye2007> when we can try
[12:45] <kokoye2007> now i subscribe
[12:46] <kokoye2007> Member Wiki Pages
[12:46] <kokoye2007> :|
[12:47] <kokoye2007> thx head_victim cjohnston Destine
[12:47] <head_victim> kokoye2007: I'll try to get something raised internally to try and work something out
[12:47] <cjohnston> sorry kokoye2007
[12:50] <kokoye2007> nvm dear i can try for ubuntu since from 2009 :P so 1 month is nvm
[16:00]  * slangasek waves
[16:00] <stokachu> o/
[16:00] <jodh> o/
[16:00] <ev> hi
[16:00] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[16:01]  * stgraber waves
[16:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:01] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[16:01] <slangasek> ogra stgraber barry cjwatson xnox jodh doko stokachu slangasek bdmurray ev
[16:01] <ev> win!
[16:02] <slangasek> ogra's busy sunning himself on a ski slope somewhere, so stgraber
[16:02] <stgraber>  - Upstart
[16:02] <stgraber>   - 3 days sprint (Monday -> Wednesday)
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Got prctl branch merged.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - libnih 'as' type fix merged and uploaded.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Various fixes to the tests to allow for reliable daily builds on virt and non-virt builders.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Got upstart-dbus-events merged.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Wrote new upstart-event-bridge, currently waiting for review/merge.
[16:02] <stgraber>  - Container
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Usual code reviews.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Release 0.9~alpha1 (and 0.9~alpha2 because of some communication problems ;))
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Built a custom kernel to test for the uevent fix when network devices are moved to other namespaces.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Sent fix for LXC on nexus7 to the kernel team.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Started working on some changes to LXC upstream to allow building with alternate libc implementation (testing with bionic).
[16:02] <stgraber>  - Other
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Spent some time debugging a rather odd biosdevname issue, looks like it was a firmware issue on the specific machine.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Did some UEFI SecureBoot tests, running a locally built and signed shim.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Patch pilot on Friday.
[16:02] <stgraber>  - TODO
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Implement user socket for upstart session (to be used before dbus is started).
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Cleanup and send a bunch of lxc patches for review (split libcap, bionic support, ...).
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Go through the isc-dhcp and resolvconf bugs.
[16:02] <stgraber>   - Try to apply redhat's fiberchannel patchset to our isc-dhcp.
[16:02] <stgraber>  - Holidays
[16:02] <stgraber>   - I'm working tomorrow (European time) and then will be off until the 2nd of January.
[16:03] <stgraber> (DONE)
[16:03] <barry> debian bug 695707 (virtualenv broken, with fixes for python2.7 #695958 and 3.3 #695959 proposed).  emacs bug 12765.  worked on whoosh for py3 (needs upstream fixes).  debugging friends service crashes for internal customer. done.
[16:03] <cjwatson> Mostly on leave and/or in a virus-induced haze this week.  On leave for the rest of the year starting Thursday afternoon.
[16:04] <cjwatson> Fixed incorrect colours in d-i images (bug 1089331).
[16:04] <cjwatson> Test-built all libssl-dev reverse-build-dependencies with a couple of different candidate patches for making libssl-dev Multi-Arch: same:
[16:04] <cjwatson>  - Moving all headers to /usr/include/$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH) caused far too many failures (67).
[16:04] <cjwatson>  - Moving just <openssl/opensslconf.h> causes two failures in unstable, both of which are easily tractable.  I've filed bugs with patches for both.
[16:04] <cjwatson> Working again on britney/autopkgtest integration, with Jean-Baptiste's help.  Not sure if I'll have something by EOY but we'll see.
[16:04] <cjwatson> Working on powerpc image changes requested by Ben Collins.
[16:04] <cjwatson> ..
[16:04] <xnox> * upstart sprint:
[16:04] <xnox>  - finish xdg config dirs branch, now merged
[16:04] <xnox>  - progressing on overrides from any config dir
[16:04] <xnox>  - fixing unit tests & daily builds / adt
[16:04] <xnox>  - refactor fixes from lp:ubuntu/libnih & propose them into lp:libnih
[16:04] <xnox> Sprint progress at http://pad.ubuntu.com/j5DPzIp5KP
[16:04] <xnox> * started cross-building fixes spree (3.5 so far, but it's fun)
[16:05] <xnox> ..
[16:05] <jodh> * Upstart Sprint: http://pad.ubuntu.com/j5DPzIp5KP
[16:05] <jodh> ✄
[16:05] <ev> surely that's cheating
[16:05] <stokachu> different area codes so its ok
[16:05]  * jodh rummages for generate-random-buzzwords.pl...
[16:05] <stokachu> at least thats what ive been told
[16:06] <doko> - updated armhf cross toolchain
[16:06] <doko> - built arm64 and powerpc biarch cross toolchains
[16:06] <doko> - rewritten gcc control.m4 to make it easier to use runtime libs for the target arch, both for 4.7 NS 4.8
[16:06] <doko> - fixing gcc-4.8 (upstream) build and install issues.
[16:06] <doko> - GCC 4.8 ppa now ready for the test rebuild
[16:06] <doko> (done)
[16:06] <stokachu> - dput uploaded (bug 633109) needs approval
[16:06] <stokachu> - packaged firefox-esr 10/17 (this took up all of my time)
[16:06] <stokachu> - applied for Contributing Developer http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdamStokes (testimonies welcomed :D)
[16:06] <stokachu> - Started backport process for sssd/sudo to Precise because of the new sudo ldap+caching features
[16:06] <stokachu>   introduced. Still going through the rdeps list for sudo to see what needs to be tested.
[16:06] <stokachu> - I expect high visibility bugs from me to pick back up at beginning of new year.
[16:06] <stokachu>  
[16:06] <stokachu> ..
[16:09] <slangasek> stokachu: hmm, you're only applying for contributing developer?
[16:09] <slangasek> I thought this was for core dev
[16:09] <stokachu> slangasek: micah recommended i did that
[16:09] <slangasek> but contributing developer gives you no upload rights :)
[16:10] <stokachu> slangasek: what membership board should i apply to
[16:10]  * xnox thought contributing is a bit on the low side. Motu or core-dev is better.
[16:10] <slangasek> well, we can harrass micahg (and stgraber) about this afterwards
[16:11] <slangasek> stokachu: the membership board is the DMB in all cases
[16:11] <xnox> and ogra and barry =)
[16:11] <stokachu> slangasek: ok cool just point me in the right direction b/c i wasn't totally sure
[16:11] <stokachu> slangasek: it was initially posted to the main membership board
[16:11] <barry> stokachu: or ppu
[16:11] <ev> so what do you get by being a contributing developer if you don't get upload rights? A nice fruit basket?
[16:11] <barry> (per-package upload rights)
[16:12] <slangasek> but it doesn't seem optimal to me to go through the process for contributing developer if you're going to be applying for core-dev shortly regardless
[16:12] <slangasek> ev: Ubuntu Membership
[16:12] <slangasek> fruit basket optional
[16:12] <ev> ...
[16:12] <stokachu> slangasek: looks like i can just add my name to the core dev in the agenda
[16:12] <ev> oh dear
[16:12] <stokachu> applying is the same it looks like
[16:13] <barry> stokachu: different secret handshake
[16:13] <xnox> stokachu: yeah process is the same for all developer levels.
[16:13] <stgraber> stokachu: yeah, same board, different agenda item. Just move your application to coredev.
[16:13] <stokachu> stgraber: do i need to resend out an email to the list?
[16:13] <slangasek> stokachu: yes; though we should figure out why micahg is still steering you away from core-dev, since he gets to vote on the question of whether you get in ;)
[16:13] <stokachu> my original one said core dev
[16:13] <stgraber> stokachu: coredev will give you ubuntu membership automatically, so no need to first apply for contributing developer.
[16:14] <stgraber> stokachu: just reply to your e-mail to devel-permissions saying that you instead want to be considered for coredev.
[16:14] <barry> he prepares harder questions for coredev applicants :)
[16:14] <slangasek> stokachu: if informal polling of the DMB suggests you're not ready for core-dev, you probably want to find out what more they want to see from you, and focus on that so you don't have to go through the process twice
[16:14] <stokachu> ok
[16:15] <stgraber> stokachu: I haven't looked at your recent history, but last I checked the only thing that was missing was the "sustained" part which has definitely be solved since ;)
[16:15] <slangasek> I guess it's my turn to spam the channel
[16:15] <stgraber> (as I remember you last poking me 6 months or so ago)
[16:15]  * xnox did go contributing -> core-dev jump. But I did apply for contributing dev way back when i was "green"
[16:15] <slangasek>  * Following up on Samsung laptop EFI bricking; looking like we may want to disable samsung-laptop module as a workaround
[16:15] <slangasek>  * UEFI Secure Boot updates.  Latest upstream version of gnu-efi+shim give a black screen and a reboot.  Still tracking down.
[16:15] <slangasek>  * Doing my "fix 5 package cross-builds" work item; for one of them, fixed valac for use as a cross-build-dep
[16:15] <slangasek>  * Working on gobject-introspection porting to python3, possibly tackling the cross-build-dep problem after that
[16:15] <slangasek> (done)
[16:16] <slangasek> ev:
[16:16] <ev> oh hi
[16:16] <cjwatson> slangasek: did you have a look to see whether any of the packages in question improved in the latest cross-builder run?
[16:16] <ev> - Going on holiday tomorrow. I'll be back in January. Have a wonderful holiday
[16:16] <ev>   and New Year!
[16:16] <ev> - The retracers have been moved to autorestart hell, as they were bothering
[16:16] <ev>   webops too much on the weekends. This was mostly because a Cassandra node was
[16:16] <ev>   taken down, which was causing timeouts. Still, we'll need to make the
[16:16] <ev>   retracers more resilient to database failure if we want to get them back into
[16:16] <ev>   a normal service operation.
[16:16] <ev>   - The queue is still massive (~6-8k per arch). We've started to remove some
[16:16] <ev>     cores from it and Tom is working on getting Rabbit queue size hooked up to
[16:16] <ev>     graphite (http://graphite.engineering.ubuntu.com). Trying to get everything
[16:16] <ev>     ready for prodstack as quickly as possible to better remedy this.
[16:16] <ev> - Spent much of the week getting our charms and daisy in shape for deployment
[16:16] <ev>   to prodstack, following the advice that Tom gave in RT 58019.
[16:16] <ev>   - Fought gunicorn to the death. Discovered the hard way that gunicorn from
[16:16] <ev>     precise is busted. Backported from Quantal.
[16:16] <ev>   - Refactored our separate wsgi scripts for receiving crash reports and core
[16:16] <ev>     dumps, unifying them under a single wsgi service and merging in the S3
[16:16] <slangasek> cjwatson: I didn't save the 'before' view :)
[16:16] <ev>     support along the way. This makes running them under the gunicorn
[16:16] <ev>     subordinate charm a lot easier.
[16:16] <ev>   - Taught the daisy charm to handle multiple Cassandra nodes coming and going.
[16:16] <ev>   - Daisy is *almost* ready. I just need to wire the Apache frontends to the
[16:16] <ev>     HAProxy instances. Everything else seems to be working. Getting the
[16:16] <ev>     retracer and Errors charms updated should be largely a matter of copying
[16:16] <ev>     code around.
[16:16] <ev> - Worked a bit with Brian to dig at why getBugSubscriberPackages was not
[16:16] <ev>   returning anything. Brian ultimately tracked down the root cause.
[16:16] <ev> (done)
[16:17] <cjwatson> slangasek: or "succeeded", even
[16:17] <ev> err graphite.engineering.canonical.com
[16:18] <slangasek> any questions on status?
[16:18] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:18] <slangasek> anyone have any plans for the end of the world on Friday?
[16:19] <cjwatson> I was planning to go to the pub tomorrow evening, if that counts :P
[16:19] <slangasek> https://plus.google.com/u/1/103242523324036094862/posts/AKBdNSnyrv5
[16:19] <barry> +1
[16:20] <stokachu> lol
[16:20] <slangasek> :-)
[16:20]  * xnox is flying the day after, so I will be packing and doing last minute shopping.
[16:20] <stgraber> :)
[16:20] <stokachu> as long as we dont get an emp from a solar flare and i can still get on the internet im good
[16:21] <slangasek> ok, sounds like that's it for the year then :)
[16:21] <slangasek> happy holidays, everyone!  don't drink too much eggnog
[16:21] <slangasek> (drink just the right amount of eggnog)
[16:21] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Dec 19 16:21:28 2012 UTC.
[16:21] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-12-19-16.00.moin.txt
[16:21] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-12-19-16.00.html
[16:21] <ev> eww
[16:21] <ev> thanks!
[16:21] <stokachu> happy holidays n stuff
[16:21] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:21] <xnox> cheers!
[16:21] <stokachu> cya
[16:21] <barry> thanks!
[16:22] <cjwatson> merry Christmas :)
[16:23] <jodh> cheers
[16:55] <kokoye2007> head_victim,
[16:55] <kokoye2007> some one is send to me
[16:56] <kokoye2007> cjohnston,
[16:56] <kokoye2007> hello cjohnston ?
[16:56] <cjohnston> hey kokoye2007
[16:57] <kokoye2007> cjohnston, now we can ? or not
[16:57] <kokoye2007> dinner is over now :D
[16:58] <kokoye2007> thx for your mail
[16:58] <cjohnston> kokoye2007, we went a different route... We are doing this by email for you... So by 2200 UTC on Friday 12/21 the vote will be complete, that way you don't have to stick around tonight and don't have to come to the next meeting
[16:59] <kokoye2007> 22:00 meeting ?
[16:59] <cjohnston> no.. no meeting.. 2200 UTC is the deadline for the board members to vote... We will email you after 2200 UTC on Friday to let you know the results
[16:59] <kokoye2007> aww thx sir
[16:59] <cjohnston> So you don't have to come back for another meeting
[17:00] <cjohnston> we will take care of it all and let you know ASAP
[17:00] <kokoye2007> real thx cjohnston
[17:00] <kokoye2007> our UTC is +6:30
[17:00] <cjohnston> I know.. its like 2330 for you now?
[17:00] <kokoye2007> so 22:00 + 6:30 = 4:30
[17:00] <kokoye2007> yes
[17:01] <kokoye2007> but i ever sleep 1:00 or 2 am
[17:01] <kokoye2007> thx for your kind and regard
[17:01] <cjohnston> Not a problem. Sorry it's been such a difficult road for you.
[17:02] <kokoye2007> i wanna become Ubuntu Member bcz of other user to improve to Ubuntu Member and Developer
[17:02] <kokoye2007> start from me
[17:03] <cjohnston> absolutly
[17:08] <kokoye2007> sorry disconnect
[17:08] <kokoye2007> cjohnston,
[17:09] <cjohnston> np
[17:12] <kokoye2007> thx u cjohnston
[17:12] <cjohnston> not a problem
[17:12] <kokoye2007> i am waiting news from there