/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/19/#ubuntu-quality.txt

tripelbTada01:21
Noskcajtrijntje, hello. i just realized i have to go but someone should help you01:22
Noskcajjoin the quality mailing list to01:22
Noskcaji will be on in a few hours01:22
tripelbWhere is mail list?01:22
Noskcajhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam01:23
Noskcajbye01:23
* tripelb is going to install Ubuntu on a nexus 7 - 32 G, 3g.01:24
tripelbKk01:24
tripelbFinally I can now copy a URL in nexus 7.01:33
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Noskcajtripelb, didi you join the mailing list etc.?05:09
pittiGood morning07:03
NoskcajLOGIN07:50
Noskcajoops07:50
Noskcajevening pitti07:50
pittihey Noskcaj, how are you?07:57
Noskcajgood, you?07:59
pittiquite fine, thanks! last day today07:59
Noskcajof what?08:00
pittilast working day before the christmas holidays08:00
pittiback on Jan 408:01
Noskcajok, i have 6 week off school now, finished yesterday08:01
Noskcajfor everyone online, here is a list of iso bugs that need confirming: 1085577, 1086498, 1086840, 1087409, 1087848. now go ubottu!08:07
Noskcajstupid ubot08:07
jibelGood morning08:09
dholbachgood morning08:09
Noskcajevening guys08:09
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xnoxjibel: pitti: who do we need to bribe with how many buckets of bird seeds to run auto-pkg-tests against a ppa? (upgrade package from the ppa, fetch the source from the ppa, and run auto-pkg-test)13:19
jodhjibel: also, did you get a chance to look at my sbuild/pbuilder autopkgtest branches?13:20
jibelxnox, too many for your pocket13:21
jibeljodh, I looked at pbuilder and fixed most of it13:21
jibeljodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449966/13:22
xnoxjibel: please.... =) or do we simply not do this yet?13:22
jibelxnox, we do for maas, but the setup is manual13:22
jibelpitti, I updated the patch on bug 107385613:23
ubot5bug 1073856 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "Test depends cannot be multiline and are silently ignored if so" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107385613:23
xnoxack =( /me thought it's like tarmac style.13:24
jibelbad indentation, how surprising :)13:24
xnoxjibel: /me thought like unity-daily has adt & runs adt against the ppa.13:24
jibelxnox, which ppa ?13:24
xnoxjibel: oh, that probably doesn't exist in jenkins. I just thought that it might be.13:25
jibelxnox, I meant we can create the job in jenkins to run adt against a ppa, the option is supported, just that auto-discovery doesn't work and the job must be added manually13:26
jodhjibel: thanks. I'll merge that and see how much further I can get.13:26
jibeljodh, any output to stderr is considered a failure13:27
jibelthat's why I removed the -x, --debug13:27
jodhjibel: ironic as I added that to see why it was failing ;)13:28
jibeljodh, then I am not really happy with "+EXTRAPACKAGES="apt-utils debian-keyring debhelper dh-autoreconf pkg-config"13:28
pittijibel: thanks, I saw13:28
jibeldebhelper dh-autoreconf pkg-config are added by pbuilder so adding this depencies explicitly changes its behavior13:29
pittijibel: can you please send it to the Debian bug, too?13:29
xnoxjibel: ah, awesome =) can you adt test package "upstart" from ppa "ppa:canonical-foundations/upstart-daily" against raring with results published/copied to public instance as well.13:29
jibelpitti, sure13:29
xnoxjibel: please =))))))13:29
jibeljodh, and also +unset TMPDIR avoids conflict with adt13:30
jibeljodh, and finally +Depends: @, debian-keyring avoids a warning about an unknown signature13:30
jibeljodh, the last message going to stderr are http://paste.ubuntu.com/1430097/13:31
jibelI don't know how to get rid of them13:31
jibeljodh, well, apart from redirecting stderr of course13:31
pittijibel: ça paraît bien, merci! uploaded13:32
jodhjibel: I could always run pbuilder in a sub-shell, redirect stderr to stdout and just check for the resulting .deb file - if it gets created and is installable => test passed13:33
jibeljodh, as you wish, it may hides problems13:34
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jodhjibel: possibly, but we're still checking the return code of pbuilder itself though.13:39
jibeljodh, I'll look at sbuild13:42
jodhjibel: thanks. so regarding the pbuilderrc changes you made, are you saying that the autopkgtests need to make those changes to avoid changing the behaviour of the pbuilder package in the archive?13:43
jibeljodh, in extrapackage debian-keyring is needed so there is no complaint about unknown signature13:48
* xnox is slightly intrigued as to what is being fixed here.13:49
jibelthe other are to make pbuilder quieter but should be removed because they installed as part of a normal pbuilder session13:49
jibelxnox, pbuilder is very verbose on stderr which makes adt unhappy13:50
xnoxmeh13:50
xnox=))))13:50
jibeljodh, +COMPONENTS="main universe" added universe because that's where procenv is13:51
jibelwhich is the package you're building with pbuilder IIRC13:51
jibel+APTCACHEHARDLINK="no" fixes the tons of apt errors13:51
jibel+ALLOWUNTRUSTED=yes was a test to see if it fixed the gpg warning without installing debian-keyring13:52
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jtaylordon't bother about the numpy adt failure, that was expected17:29
jtaylorcould be fixed by setting the cpumodel to something real, but a workaround is also upstream17:29
Noskcajcan someone please confirm bug 1085577 and bug 108805420:30
ubot5bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108557720:30
ubot5bug 1088054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Release notes firefox has no "minimise, maximise, close" buttons" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108805420:30
balloonslooks like one is confirmed20:32
balloonsNoskcaj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1085577 looks like you found something20:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:34
balloonsdid you get all the logs posted for it?20:34
balloonsI don't see any issues in the log you posted, does it happen still on the new images? and was it only on lubuntu?20:35
Noskcajyes, and i only know because lubuntu forces you to use the links20:44
Noskcaji will double check it is stil there then test in xubuntu has it20:46
balloonsNoskcaj, excellent.. update the bug with your logs20:47
balloonsI looked but don't see anything useful in them20:48
balloonsneed to understand why it's happening20:48
Noskcajok, i will try. every time lubntu says there is an error report nothing happens20:48
Noskcajalso can someone confirm bug 108740920:49
ubot5bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu daily's freeze when install mp3 codec is selected " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108740920:49
balloonsNoskcaj, yes, let me see if that's still an issue20:49
balloonswasn't for me last time20:50
Noskcaji know it doesn't affect Ubuntu anymore, not sure what else. it confuses me20:50
Noskcajand the cli works in Ubuntu20:50
balloonsahh20:56
Noskcajcli is lubuntu only, and the mp3 bug definitely affects xubntu amd6420:58
balloonsNoskcaj, ok note it20:58
Noskcajjust realised it doesn't it just takes 3min to work20:59
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Noskcajso, not really a bug, just inefficiency that people will think is a bug21:00
Noskcajthe cli bug is still there21:01
Noskcajand the bug report thing that pops up doesn't work21:02
phillwhi guys, I'm back from my T.V. programme :)21:07
phillwjust completing the 'encrypted home' alt install.... all 3 look good to go :)http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/31103/testcases21:09
Noskcajphillw, i take it that you  can see the conversation so far?21:10
phillwNoskcaj: I've zsync'd up my desktop iso and will be on that next. Which do you want me to look at 1st?21:10
balloonshello everyone21:10
Noskcaj108557721:10
Noskcajhello again balloons21:10
balloonsso I was speaking with letozaf_ earlier about incorporating askubuntu into our efforts..21:11
phillwbug 108557721:11
ubot5bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108557721:11
balloonssince phillw is around, I'm going to ping and poke you and see your thoughts21:11
Noskcaji can't get apport-collect to work so i can't add the extra stuff to the report21:11
phillwNoskcaj: was that for a standard desktop install?21:12
Noskcajlive machine. just let me tye the details21:13
Noskcajthe crash report does nothing (from the crash directly), ubuntu-bug only lets me make a new thing, apport-collect won't work even if i install python-apport21:13
phillwNoskcaj: I'll try in virt-manager. I can extract files from a failed machine.21:14
Noskcajok, have you seen the bug yourself?21:14
phillwNoskcaj: nope, I've not played with desktop installs yest.21:16
phillw*yet*21:16
phillwhmm, encrypted install will not boot.21:16
Noskcajactually i need to check if it affects i386, will do that now21:16
phillwballoons: are there any bugs that you know of for encrypted install failing?21:17
balloonshmm21:19
balloonsno, I don't believe so21:19
balloonsnot failing to boot21:20
balloonswaot21:20
balloonsyou mean boot install or boot after install?21:20
phillwboot after install.21:20
phillwI just get "Booting from Hard Disk..."21:21
balloonsugh21:25
Noskcajthat, is bad.21:26
phillwDrat (or words to that effect), I'm on my 'clean' 12.04 and thus have no guestfish to extract the fstab21:26
phillwyup, it's hung21:27
phillwI cannot pull up an alternate terminal session, as it has not even got that far :(21:28
balloonsphillw, Noskcaj if that happens you can always boot into a live session and chroot to get the logs21:29
balloonsdoes that make sense?21:29
Noskcajif you were talking to m, not a bit21:29
Noskcaj*me21:29
phillwballoons: alternate install, which has encrypt, does not have a Live Session :/21:30
balloonsyes, you would have to use a full install21:31
balloonserr sorry21:31
balloonslol21:31
balloonsa desktop cd to boot to a live session21:31
balloonsdoesn't matter if yo used an alt to install21:31
phillwballoons: let me just install and apply the bug fix to guestfish, much less messing about when you just issue21:34
phillwvirt-copy-out -d <Guest> <full directory path> .21:34
phillw:)21:34
balloonsheh21:35
phillwno chrooting :P21:35
phillwwhich one of the reasons I like using KVM. I can extract anything from it even if it will not run.21:36
balloons:-p21:38
phillwit can also be used to install deb updates (and rpm) into poorly VM's... it's quite a crazy set of suites that the devs have written!21:40
* phillw oh goodie.... guestfs wants a reboot.... brb :)21:50
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Noskcaj yep 1085577 affects i38621:56
phillwI'll have to repeat the test for lubuntu-alternate with encryption, for some reason it didn't carry over to my other lubuntu-12.10 system.22:03
Noskcajphillw, so you know, 1085577 affects i38622:06
phillwNoskcaj: while virt-manager 'plays' with encrypted home on alternalte, I'll fire up VBox and see if I can replicate bug 1085577 for you.22:07
ubot5bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108557722:07
Noskcajthanks22:07
Noskcaji don't think it has to be Vbox, just anything using the desktop iso22:08
phillwMy test system is one big Virtual Disk.22:09
Noskcajok?22:09
phillwhmm, this time at least it has asked to revert my partition back to ext2..... Crikey, no wonder I don't like encryption... that's from the Ark!22:11
Noskcajthat was made in 1993, and it still supports work than ntfs. lol22:12
phillwNoskcaj: wht did you not include the files that x-nox asked for? There is no reply on your bug report and I find it a bit hard to follow...22:14
phillws/wht/why/22:14
Noskcaji put some in, i could not find the others22:15
Noskcajand i was trying to use apport-collect but it didn't work22:16
phillwNoskcaj: nope, what x-nox was asking was you to run a bug-collection against ubiquity which *should* have pulled in the files he requested.22:17
* xnox ponders why do i deserve "-" in my name22:17
balloons:-)22:18
Noskcajx-nox made a face. yay22:18
phillwxnox, so that I don't keep pinging you? :D22:18
balloonsI am guessing they were being kind22:18
xnoxphillw: i get highlight on "ubiquity" anyway =) so it was a highlight regardless ;-)22:18
balloonslol!22:18
balloonsxnox ubiquity double ping!22:19
phillwokies, we're just looking at Noskcaj's bug 108557722:19
ubot5bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108557722:19
Noskcajyes ubot, that is ehat it is22:19
Noskcaj*what22:19
xnox /ignore balloons # to many pings22:19
xnox=DDDD22:19
Noskcajwow you have a lot of chins xnox22:20
phillwI'm back on my heavily modified 12.10 system that support guestfs so can now look at failed installs without chrooting.22:21
phillwNoskcaj: VBox on my system will not run AMD-64 iso's. I'm going to switch to version from their web-site instead of the one from ubuntu repo's.22:32
phillw:: SIGH :: Why is virtualisation SO broken in 12.10 :(22:33
Noskcajworks fine for me22:35
phillwNoskcaj: I thought netboot did not?22:37
Noskcajno, netboot is just roken in general, and testdrive's "other" tab22:38
Noskcaj*broken22:38
Noskcajthe only exeption is trying to vm ppc, i forget if that was 12.10 or not though22:40
phillwNoskcaj: I've not tried ppc with 12.10, do the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64#How_to_test_on_any_architectures_.28using_qemu.29 no longer work?22:44
Noskcajthey probably do, i just can't be bothered to, especially with all the graphics error that woulg go untested22:46
phillwthe actual booting, is in their hands. but the other tests such as formatting / testing mini-iso / ppc-server can be done on generic.22:46
Noskcajso phillw, have you confirmed the bug, if not please can you do that.22:58
phillwNoskcaj: I'm just running my encryted install. You are next on the list... honest!23:02
Noskcajok, thanks23:06
phillwxnox: who is best to ping about an issue with encrypted /home problem?23:35
phillw(or what to log it against)23:35
phillwNoskcaj: you're up :) Desktop install, choose install... correct test for the bug?23:37
Noskcajyes23:38
xnox phillw: ubiquity / ecryptfs but really depends what when wrong? what's the bug?23:38
NoskcajShould Crash to desktop and have a send error report popup23:39
phillwxnox: the re-boot hangs. trying to copy out the directory /var and /etc is asking for my passphrase .... they should not be encrypted?23:40
phillwxnox: I do have them, but the system hung at 'Booting from Hard Disk...'23:41
xnoxphillw: which encryption did you use? and what's the text for passphrase prompt (could be ecryptfs, luks or sudo)23:41
phillwthe one that alternate install says to use when it asks "do you want to encrypt your /home directory"23:42
xnoxphillw: that eliminates luks prompt but not the other two ;-)23:43
phillwxnox: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1439/info23:43
xnox(cause esentially ecryptfs uses your account password for unlocking)23:43
phillwxnox: is there a way to check which it is using?23:44
xnoxphillw: alternate? is this for precise?23:44
phillwxnox: nope, for raring23:44
xnoxphillw: lubuntu + server fair enough.23:45
* phillw thinks that -release team have forgotten, once again, that server uses alternate :)23:45
xnoxphillw: pull as many logs as you have & open a bug against debian-installer and we'll take it from there.23:46
phillwxnox: root@piglet:/home/phillw/enc-var/var/log# cat boot23:47
phillw(Nothing has been logged yet.)23:47
xnoxphillw: installer/ ?23:47
xnoxphillw: partman syslog ?23:48
phillwxnox: where are they held>23:48
xnox/var/log/installer/23:48
phillwroot@piglet:/home/phillw/enc-var/var# ls23:48
phillwbackups  crash  local  log   metrics  run    tmp23:48
phillwcache    lib    lock   mail  opt      spool23:48
xnox=(23:49
phillwxnox: I have it :)23:49
phillwunder /var/log :)23:49
phillwis it easier for me to zip up /etc and /var so that you guys can access what you need?23:50
xnoxsure.23:50
phillwany other directory that may help?23:50
xnoxnope23:51
phillwokies. I'll log a bug. I will not destroy the VM so that if anything else is needed it will be there....23:52
phillwxnox: /var zipped up is 5GB, is that not too large for attaching?23:56
xnoxnot var....23:57
xnoxjust /var/log/23:57
xnox(also how can it be 5GB if the whole fresh install is less than that?!)23:57
phillwha ha,,, 5Mb :)23:57
phillw5316496823:57
xnoxoh, 5MB is fine, but really just /var/log is wanted here it should be small.23:57
phillwsorry, getting late here :)23:58
phillwI'll redo it with just /var/log23:58
phillwdo you want /etc or just fstab?23:58

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