[01:21] <tripelb> Tada
[01:22] <Noskcaj> trijntje, hello. i just realized i have to go but someone should help you
[01:22] <Noskcaj> join the quality mailing list to
[01:22] <Noskcaj> i will be on in a few hours
[01:22] <tripelb> Where is mail list?
[01:23] <Noskcaj> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
[01:23] <Noskcaj> bye
[01:24]  * tripelb is going to install Ubuntu on a nexus 7 - 32 G, 3g.
[01:24] <tripelb> Kk
[01:33] <tripelb> Finally I can now copy a URL in nexus 7.
[05:09] <Noskcaj> tripelb, didi you join the mailing list etc.?
[07:03] <pitti> Good morning
[07:50] <Noskcaj> LOGIN
[07:50] <Noskcaj> oops
[07:50] <Noskcaj> evening pitti
[07:57] <pitti> hey Noskcaj, how are you?
[07:59] <Noskcaj> good, you?
[07:59] <pitti> quite fine, thanks! last day today
[08:00] <Noskcaj> of what?
[08:00] <pitti> last working day before the christmas holidays
[08:01] <pitti> back on Jan 4
[08:01] <Noskcaj> ok, i have 6 week off school now, finished yesterday
[08:07] <Noskcaj> for everyone online, here is a list of iso bugs that need confirming: 1085577, 1086498, 1086840, 1087409, 1087848. now go ubottu!
[08:07] <Noskcaj> stupid ubot
[08:09] <jibel> Good morning
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:09] <Noskcaj> evening guys
[13:19] <xnox> jibel: pitti: who do we need to bribe with how many buckets of bird seeds to run auto-pkg-tests against a ppa? (upgrade package from the ppa, fetch the source from the ppa, and run auto-pkg-test)
[13:20] <jodh> jibel: also, did you get a chance to look at my sbuild/pbuilder autopkgtest branches?
[13:21] <jibel> xnox, too many for your pocket
[13:21] <jibel> jodh, I looked at pbuilder and fixed most of it
[13:22] <jibel> jodh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449966/
[13:22] <xnox> jibel: please.... =) or do we simply not do this yet?
[13:22] <jibel> xnox, we do for maas, but the setup is manual
[13:23] <jibel> pitti, I updated the patch on bug 1073856
[13:24] <xnox> ack =( /me thought it's like tarmac style.
[13:24] <jibel> bad indentation, how surprising :)
[13:24] <xnox> jibel: /me thought like unity-daily has adt & runs adt against the ppa.
[13:24] <jibel> xnox, which ppa ?
[13:25] <xnox> jibel: oh, that probably doesn't exist in jenkins. I just thought that it might be.
[13:26] <jibel> xnox, I meant we can create the job in jenkins to run adt against a ppa, the option is supported, just that auto-discovery doesn't work and the job must be added manually
[13:26] <jodh> jibel: thanks. I'll merge that and see how much further I can get.
[13:27] <jibel> jodh, any output to stderr is considered a failure
[13:27] <jibel> that's why I removed the -x, --debug
[13:28] <jodh> jibel: ironic as I added that to see why it was failing ;)
[13:28] <jibel> jodh, then I am not really happy with "+EXTRAPACKAGES="apt-utils debian-keyring debhelper dh-autoreconf pkg-config"
[13:28] <pitti> jibel: thanks, I saw
[13:29] <jibel> debhelper dh-autoreconf pkg-config are added by pbuilder so adding this depencies explicitly changes its behavior
[13:29] <pitti> jibel: can you please send it to the Debian bug, too?
[13:29] <xnox> jibel: ah, awesome =) can you adt test package "upstart" from ppa "ppa:canonical-foundations/upstart-daily" against raring with results published/copied to public instance as well.
[13:29] <jibel> pitti, sure
[13:29] <xnox> jibel: please =))))))
[13:30] <jibel> jodh, and also +unset TMPDIR avoids conflict with adt
[13:30] <jibel> jodh, and finally +Depends: @, debian-keyring avoids a warning about an unknown signature
[13:31] <jibel> jodh, the last message going to stderr are http://paste.ubuntu.com/1430097/
[13:31] <jibel> I don't know how to get rid of them
[13:31] <jibel> jodh, well, apart from redirecting stderr of course
[13:32] <pitti> jibel: ça paraît bien, merci! uploaded
[13:33] <jodh> jibel: I could always run pbuilder in a sub-shell, redirect stderr to stdout and just check for the resulting .deb file - if it gets created and is installable => test passed
[13:34] <jibel> jodh, as you wish, it may hides problems
[13:39] <jodh> jibel: possibly, but we're still checking the return code of pbuilder itself though.
[13:42] <jibel> jodh, I'll look at sbuild
[13:43] <jodh> jibel: thanks. so regarding the pbuilderrc changes you made, are you saying that the autopkgtests need to make those changes to avoid changing the behaviour of the pbuilder package in the archive?
[13:48] <jibel> jodh, in extrapackage debian-keyring is needed so there is no complaint about unknown signature
[13:49]  * xnox is slightly intrigued as to what is being fixed here.
[13:49] <jibel> the other are to make pbuilder quieter but should be removed because they installed as part of a normal pbuilder session
[13:50] <jibel> xnox, pbuilder is very verbose on stderr which makes adt unhappy
[13:50] <xnox> meh
[13:50] <xnox> =))))
[13:51] <jibel> jodh, +COMPONENTS="main universe" added universe because that's where procenv is
[13:51] <jibel> which is the package you're building with pbuilder IIRC
[13:51] <jibel> +APTCACHEHARDLINK="no" fixes the tons of apt errors
[13:52] <jibel> +ALLOWUNTRUSTED=yes was a test to see if it fixed the gpg warning without installing debian-keyring
[17:29] <jtaylor> don't bother about the numpy adt failure, that was expected
[17:29] <jtaylor> could be fixed by setting the cpumodel to something real, but a workaround is also upstream
[20:30] <Noskcaj> can someone please confirm bug 1085577 and bug 1088054
[20:32] <balloons> looks like one is confirmed
[20:34] <balloons> Noskcaj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1085577 looks like you found something
[20:34] <balloons> did you get all the logs posted for it?
[20:35] <balloons> I don't see any issues in the log you posted, does it happen still on the new images? and was it only on lubuntu?
[20:44] <Noskcaj> yes, and i only know because lubuntu forces you to use the links
[20:46] <Noskcaj> i will double check it is stil there then test in xubuntu has it
[20:47] <balloons> Noskcaj, excellent.. update the bug with your logs
[20:48] <balloons> I looked but don't see anything useful in them
[20:48] <balloons> need to understand why it's happening
[20:48] <Noskcaj> ok, i will try. every time lubntu says there is an error report nothing happens
[20:49] <Noskcaj> also can someone confirm bug 1087409
[20:49] <balloons> Noskcaj, yes, let me see if that's still an issue
[20:50] <balloons> wasn't for me last time
[20:50] <Noskcaj> i know it doesn't affect Ubuntu anymore, not sure what else. it confuses me
[20:50] <Noskcaj> and the cli works in Ubuntu
[20:56] <balloons> ahh
[20:58] <Noskcaj> cli is lubuntu only, and the mp3 bug definitely affects xubntu amd64
[20:58] <balloons> Noskcaj, ok note it
[20:59] <Noskcaj> just realised it doesn't it just takes 3min to work
[21:00] <Noskcaj> so, not really a bug, just inefficiency that people will think is a bug
[21:01] <Noskcaj> the cli bug is still there
[21:02] <Noskcaj> and the bug report thing that pops up doesn't work
[21:07] <phillw> hi guys, I'm back from my T.V. programme :)
[21:09] <phillw> just completing the 'encrypted home' alt install.... all 3 look good to go :)http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/31103/testcases
[21:10] <Noskcaj> phillw, i take it that you  can see the conversation so far?
[21:10] <phillw> Noskcaj: I've zsync'd up my desktop iso and will be on that next. Which do you want me to look at 1st?
[21:10] <balloons> hello everyone
[21:10] <Noskcaj> 1085577
[21:10] <Noskcaj> hello again balloons
[21:11] <balloons> so I was speaking with letozaf_ earlier about incorporating askubuntu into our efforts..
[21:11] <phillw> bug 1085577
[21:11] <balloons> since phillw is around, I'm going to ping and poke you and see your thoughts
[21:11] <Noskcaj> i can't get apport-collect to work so i can't add the extra stuff to the report
[21:12] <phillw> Noskcaj: was that for a standard desktop install?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> live machine. just let me tye the details
[21:13] <Noskcaj> the crash report does nothing (from the crash directly), ubuntu-bug only lets me make a new thing, apport-collect won't work even if i install python-apport
[21:14] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'll try in virt-manager. I can extract files from a failed machine.
[21:14] <Noskcaj> ok, have you seen the bug yourself?
[21:16] <phillw> Noskcaj: nope, I've not played with desktop installs yest.
[21:16] <phillw> *yet*
[21:16] <phillw> hmm, encrypted install will not boot.
[21:16] <Noskcaj> actually i need to check if it affects i386, will do that now
[21:17] <phillw> balloons: are there any bugs that you know of for encrypted install failing?
[21:19] <balloons> hmm
[21:19] <balloons> no, I don't believe so
[21:20] <balloons> not failing to boot
[21:20] <balloons> waot
[21:20] <balloons> you mean boot install or boot after install?
[21:20] <phillw> boot after install.
[21:21] <phillw> I just get "Booting from Hard Disk..."
[21:25] <balloons> ugh
[21:26] <Noskcaj> that, is bad.
[21:26] <phillw> Drat (or words to that effect), I'm on my 'clean' 12.04 and thus have no guestfish to extract the fstab
[21:27] <phillw> yup, it's hung
[21:28] <phillw> I cannot pull up an alternate terminal session, as it has not even got that far :(
[21:29] <balloons> phillw, Noskcaj if that happens you can always boot into a live session and chroot to get the logs
[21:29] <balloons> does that make sense?
[21:29] <Noskcaj> if you were talking to m, not a bit
[21:29] <Noskcaj> *me
[21:30] <phillw> balloons: alternate install, which has encrypt, does not have a Live Session :/
[21:31] <balloons> yes, you would have to use a full install
[21:31] <balloons> err sorry
[21:31] <balloons> lol
[21:31] <balloons> a desktop cd to boot to a live session
[21:31] <balloons> doesn't matter if yo used an alt to install
[21:34] <phillw> balloons: let me just install and apply the bug fix to guestfish, much less messing about when you just issue
[21:34] <phillw> virt-copy-out -d <Guest> <full directory path> .
[21:34] <phillw> :)
[21:35] <balloons> heh
[21:35] <phillw> no chrooting :P
[21:36] <phillw> which one of the reasons I like using KVM. I can extract anything from it even if it will not run.
[21:38] <balloons> :-p
[21:40] <phillw> it can also be used to install deb updates (and rpm) into poorly VM's... it's quite a crazy set of suites that the devs have written!
[21:50]  * phillw oh goodie.... guestfs wants a reboot.... brb :)
[21:56] <Noskcaj>  yep 1085577 affects i386
[22:03] <phillw> I'll have to repeat the test for lubuntu-alternate with encryption, for some reason it didn't carry over to my other lubuntu-12.10 system.
[22:06] <Noskcaj> phillw, so you know, 1085577 affects i386
[22:07] <phillw> Noskcaj: while virt-manager 'plays' with encrypted home on alternalte, I'll fire up VBox and see if I can replicate bug 1085577 for you.
[22:07] <Noskcaj> thanks
[22:08] <Noskcaj> i don't think it has to be Vbox, just anything using the desktop iso
[22:09] <phillw> My test system is one big Virtual Disk.
[22:09] <Noskcaj> ok?
[22:11] <phillw> hmm, this time at least it has asked to revert my partition back to ext2..... Crikey, no wonder I don't like encryption... that's from the Ark!
[22:12] <Noskcaj> that was made in 1993, and it still supports work than ntfs. lol
[22:14] <phillw> Noskcaj: wht did you not include the files that x-nox asked for? There is no reply on your bug report and I find it a bit hard to follow...
[22:14] <phillw> s/wht/why/
[22:15] <Noskcaj> i put some in, i could not find the others
[22:16] <Noskcaj> and i was trying to use apport-collect but it didn't work
[22:17] <phillw> Noskcaj: nope, what x-nox was asking was you to run a bug-collection against ubiquity which *should* have pulled in the files he requested.
[22:17]  * xnox ponders why do i deserve "-" in my name
[22:18] <balloons> :-)
[22:18] <Noskcaj> x-nox made a face. yay
[22:18] <phillw> xnox, so that I don't keep pinging you? :D
[22:18] <balloons> I am guessing they were being kind
[22:18] <xnox> phillw: i get highlight on "ubiquity" anyway =) so it was a highlight regardless ;-)
[22:18] <balloons> lol!
[22:19] <balloons> xnox ubiquity double ping!
[22:19] <phillw> okies, we're just looking at Noskcaj's bug 1085577
[22:19] <Noskcaj> yes ubot, that is ehat it is
[22:19] <Noskcaj> *what
[22:19] <xnox>  /ignore balloons # to many pings
[22:19] <xnox> =DDDD
[22:20] <Noskcaj> wow you have a lot of chins xnox
[22:21] <phillw> I'm back on my heavily modified 12.10 system that support guestfs so can now look at failed installs without chrooting.
[22:32] <phillw> Noskcaj: VBox on my system will not run AMD-64 iso's. I'm going to switch to version from their web-site instead of the one from ubuntu repo's.
[22:33] <phillw> :: SIGH :: Why is virtualisation SO broken in 12.10 :(
[22:35] <Noskcaj> works fine for me
[22:37] <phillw> Noskcaj: I thought netboot did not?
[22:38] <Noskcaj> no, netboot is just roken in general, and testdrive's "other" tab
[22:38] <Noskcaj> *broken
[22:40] <Noskcaj> the only exeption is trying to vm ppc, i forget if that was 12.10 or not though
[22:44] <phillw> Noskcaj: I've not tried ppc with 12.10, do the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64#How_to_test_on_any_architectures_.28using_qemu.29 no longer work?
[22:46] <Noskcaj> they probably do, i just can't be bothered to, especially with all the graphics error that woulg go untested
[22:46] <phillw> the actual booting, is in their hands. but the other tests such as formatting / testing mini-iso / ppc-server can be done on generic.
[22:58] <Noskcaj> so phillw, have you confirmed the bug, if not please can you do that.
[23:02] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'm just running my encryted install. You are next on the list... honest!
[23:06] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks
[23:35] <phillw> xnox: who is best to ping about an issue with encrypted /home problem?
[23:35] <phillw> (or what to log it against)
[23:37] <phillw> Noskcaj: you're up :) Desktop install, choose install... correct test for the bug?
[23:38] <Noskcaj> yes
[23:38] <xnox>  phillw: ubiquity / ecryptfs but really depends what when wrong? what's the bug?
[23:39] <Noskcaj> Should Crash to desktop and have a send error report popup
[23:40] <phillw> xnox: the re-boot hangs. trying to copy out the directory /var and /etc is asking for my passphrase .... they should not be encrypted?
[23:41] <phillw> xnox: I do have them, but the system hung at 'Booting from Hard Disk...'
[23:41] <xnox> phillw: which encryption did you use? and what's the text for passphrase prompt (could be ecryptfs, luks or sudo)
[23:42] <phillw> the one that alternate install says to use when it asks "do you want to encrypt your /home directory"
[23:43] <xnox> phillw: that eliminates luks prompt but not the other two ;-)
[23:43] <phillw> xnox: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1439/info
[23:43] <xnox> (cause esentially ecryptfs uses your account password for unlocking)
[23:44] <phillw> xnox: is there a way to check which it is using?
[23:44] <xnox> phillw: alternate? is this for precise?
[23:44] <phillw> xnox: nope, for raring
[23:45] <xnox> phillw: lubuntu + server fair enough.
[23:45]  * phillw thinks that -release team have forgotten, once again, that server uses alternate :)
[23:46] <xnox> phillw: pull as many logs as you have & open a bug against debian-installer and we'll take it from there.
[23:47] <phillw> xnox: root@piglet:/home/phillw/enc-var/var/log# cat boot
[23:47] <phillw> (Nothing has been logged yet.)
[23:47] <xnox> phillw: installer/ ?
[23:48] <xnox> phillw: partman syslog ?
[23:48] <phillw> xnox: where are they held>
[23:48] <xnox> /var/log/installer/
[23:48] <phillw> root@piglet:/home/phillw/enc-var/var# ls
[23:48] <phillw> backups  crash  local  log   metrics  run    tmp
[23:48] <phillw> cache    lib    lock   mail  opt      spool
[23:49] <xnox> =(
[23:49] <phillw> xnox: I have it :)
[23:49] <phillw> under /var/log :)
[23:50] <phillw> is it easier for me to zip up /etc and /var so that you guys can access what you need?
[23:50] <xnox> sure.
[23:50] <phillw> any other directory that may help?
[23:51] <xnox> nope
[23:52] <phillw> okies. I'll log a bug. I will not destroy the VM so that if anything else is needed it will be there....
[23:56] <phillw> xnox: /var zipped up is 5GB, is that not too large for attaching?
[23:57] <xnox> not var....
[23:57] <xnox> just /var/log/
[23:57] <xnox> (also how can it be 5GB if the whole fresh install is less than that?!)
[23:57] <phillw> ha ha,,, 5Mb :)
[23:57] <phillw> 53164968
[23:57] <xnox> oh, 5MB is fine, but really just /var/log is wanted here it should be small.
[23:58] <phillw> sorry, getting late here :)
[23:58] <phillw> I'll redo it with just /var/log
[23:58] <phillw> do you want /etc or just fstab?