[00:00] <ikonia> chintanparikh: you may have to hardcode it in xorg, or make sure you are using the right video card module
[00:00] <chintanparikh> ikonia: How would I do either?
[00:01] <ikonia> chintanparikh: it depends, what vidoe card do you have
[00:01] <usr13> x86: Sorry.  Try:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu  (about 2/3 way down to "Writing Code")
[00:01] <chintanparikh> AMD Radeon HD 6540 G2. I'm using nomodeset at the moment
[00:01] <Septima> is there some way to list connections of a specific user?
[00:01] <chintanparikh> ikonia: AMD Radeon HD 6540 G2. I'm using nomodeset at the moment
[00:04] <usr13> Septima:  tcpdummp |gerp user-name
[00:05] <achandra> *grep
[00:05] <doctorly> I tried the command 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub' and it told me cannot open display
[00:05] <achandra> ^
[00:05] <g0th> usr13: hmm, when I select Analog mono input in pavucontrol I hear everything
[00:05] <usr13> Septima: Ctrl-c when you've seen enough
[00:05] <usr13> achandra: Thanks
[00:05] <usr13> Septima:  tcpdummp |grep user-name
[00:05] <g0th> usr13: before it was on digital stereo output + something
[00:05] <g0th> I know that digital output is/was working, so now instead of digital surround/stereo I get analog mono? ^^
[00:05] <damo22> anyone in melbourne aus?
[00:06] <ikonia> damo22: why ?
[00:06] <damo22> looking to trade my iphone 4s for samsung galaxy nexus
[00:06] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with this channel
[00:06] <usr13> damo22: Gonna start a LUG?  :)
[00:06] <ikonia> please keep it out of this channel
[00:07] <damo22> also would be interested to start a LUG
[00:07] <shwouchk_> hello
[00:08] <usr13> damo22: samsung galaxy nexus?  http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android  ?
[00:08] <ikonia> damo22: there is already a melborne lug
[00:08] <ikonia> usr13: why point him at that as there is nothing released for it yet ?
[00:08] <shwouchk_> for some reason I can see only a couple of buttons in the "system settings". What could be causing it?
[00:08] <damo22> i do not like ubuntu's spying mechanisms through dash
[00:08] <usr13> ikonia: I dono, just searching for a relevant point to his question...
[00:09] <ikonia> damo22: then /parting #ubuntu would be the best option
[00:09] <damo22> why
[00:09] <ikonia> usr13: don't just give random stuff, he wants to sell a phone this is a.) nothing to do with #ubuntu b.) nothing to do with a product that has no information on it
[00:09] <damo22> i am a ubuntu user since it began
[00:09] <ikonia> damo22: this channel is for ubuntu support and if you're not using / interested in Ubuntu due to it's "spyware" it may not be a good channel for you
[00:09] <damo22> i dont like the way it has evolved into a spying tool for amazon
[00:10] <ikonia> damo22: well, it's not
[00:10] <ikonia> damo22: you can use/not use the lense
[00:10] <ikonia> it's up to you
[00:10] <ikonia> but if you don't like it, I suggest not using it
[00:10] <usr13> ikonia: I did not give random stuff.  I tried to get him to clarify what he wanted to know from us and to ask if there was something in it relating to ubuntu.
[00:11] <ikonia> usr13: he wants to swap an iphone...nothing to do with this channel
[00:11] <slestak> hello
[00:11] <blackshirt> hello slestak
[00:11] <usr13> ikonia: My point exactly.
[00:11] <damo22> what i have to say is relevant to all users of software
[00:11] <ikonia> damo22: no, it's not
[00:11] <slestak> anyone using a recent ati card with wine or playonlinux?
[00:11] <ikonia> damo22: so please, don't want to hear anything more about this spyware nonsense
[00:11] <slestak> trying to decide if i want to use fglrx-updates or download from ati.com
[00:11] <blackshirt> slestak, not yet... I dont have ati card
[00:11] <usr13> damo22: But this is #ubuntu and the topic is support for #ubuntu
[00:12] <ikonia> slestak: #winehq may have a wider audience for that ?
[00:12] <slestak> good point, tyvm
[00:12] <damo22> it is not nonsense: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/richard-stallman-calls-ubuntu-spyware-because-it-tracks-searches/
[00:14] <shwouchk_> ikonia, you are wrong!
[00:14] <pr0ph3t> hi all
[00:14] <ikonia> shwouchk_: ?
[00:14] <slestak> think i will try fglrx-updates first
[00:14] <shwouchk_> ikonia, you should not have spoken as you did to damo
[00:15] <ikonia> shwouchk_: thanks
[00:15] <blackshirt> damo22, i think thats can be disabled
[00:15] <ikonia> shwouchk_: if you wish to complain, please take it to #ubuntu-ops
[00:15] <pr0ph3t> I have a problem with the grave key, the one above tab, it works intermittently
[00:16] <pr0ph3t> I have to press it twice for it to work, anyone else got this problem? Running Gnome-shell ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[00:18] <Septima> usr13: not working for me
[00:19] <Septima> i'd like something like tcptrack, but with a user filter
[00:19] <shwouchk_> for some reason I can see only a couple of buttons in the "system settings". What could be causing it?
[00:20] <usr13> Septima: Just a sec...
[00:21] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[00:22] <FuriousGeorge> i have a sharp network printer.  when I try to launch sharp's linux installer it says i must be root and closes
[00:22] <usr13> There is a GUI front end for tcpdump... memory fails me... anyone???
[00:22] <usr13> hint --- it's cross-platform
[00:22] <FuriousGeorge> im logged on as the adminsitrator account on Kubuntu.  the root account is disabled by default IIRC
[00:22] <Septima> FuriousGeorge: you tried running it with sudo?
[00:23] <FuriousGeorge> Septima, no thanks for reminding me
[00:24] <usr13> Septima: There is wireshark (but that's not the one I was trying to think of....)
[00:25] <daftykins> usr13: are you thinking of tcpdump?
[00:27] <xomniverse> I'm trying to do a network installation of Ubuntu, and it says I need "rt2561s.bin" for my wifi during installation. I've placed this file on two different removable media (a usb stick and an mp3 player I had lying around) and it will not read it
[00:27] <xomniverse> it just keeps asking me to insert the media with this file
[00:27] <xomniverse> both devices are formatted to FAT32 and contain nothing but the rt2561s.bin file
[00:30] <usr13> daftykins: No, it's like a GUI front end for it.  It's cross platform....
[00:30] <eGetin> how did you create the image xomniverse?
[00:30] <usr13> daftykins: I used to have it on the PC next to me here but I guess I took it off....
[00:31] <daftykins> =[
[00:31] <usr13> ...or I don't have a gui launcher for it.
[00:31] <usr13> I think it's on my laptop.
[00:32] <usr13> ethereal
[00:34] <daftykins> usr13: that's just the old name for wireshark
[00:35] <usr13> Septima: I guess that ethereal is now Wireshark.  Maybe that is of some  use.  I dono.  Sorry for the loss of memory, and I guess that is why, it is deprecated.
[00:36] <usr13> daftykins: Thank you
[00:36] <Septima> yeah, ethereal got renamed to wireshark
[00:36] <Septima> i'll give it a go
[00:36] <daftykins> usr13: np :)
[00:36] <usr13> daftykins: Septima I guess that is why I erased it from my memory. ;0
[00:37] <daftykins> :)
[00:37] <usr13> I think I just never really connected the dots.
[00:39] <usr13> My brain is rather warped, (especially when it comes to meory - I have extensive notes, but sometimes they is hard to parse, especially if its just not there).
[00:41] <usr13> ethereal was always a difficult name, (to remember correctly).
[00:44] <nashant> is it normal to have 'errors=remount-ro' for / in fstab? And does it mean that I have errors if it's then ro when I boot?
[00:47] <daftykins> nashant: it mounts it read only if errors are detected i think yeah
[00:47] <jrib> nashant: and yes it's normal
[00:47] <nashant> jrib, daftykins: how do I then find the errors?
[00:49] <nashant> also, if I install/remove stuff in the live usb installation are they there/not in the installed env?
[00:49] <daftykins> nashant: you ideally run a livecd/usb and run fsck on that partition
[00:49] <daftykins> nashant: nah live environment is totally separate
[00:52] <HodgerWWWChAn> j;sa
[00:57] <cornfeed> does anyone know if kubuntu has the same amazon issue?
[00:57] <ikonia> cornfeed: amazon issue ?
[00:58] <daftykins> cornfeed: the sending searches? nah no idea
[00:58] <cornfeed> daftykins: yes
[00:59] <ikonia> I don't think kubuntu uses the lense
[00:59] <cornfeed> ikonia: https://startpage.com/do/search?query=ubuntu+amazon&cat=web&pl=chrome&language=english
[00:59] <ikonia> cornfeed: that's not an issue
[00:59] <ikonia> thats one man's iew
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: to answer your question though, I don't think kubuntu uses the lense
[01:00] <cornfeed> lense?
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: the lense is what causes the search results
[01:00] <ikonia> and I don't think kubuntu uses it
[01:00] <ikonia> cornfeed: if you join #kubuntu someone can confirm if it uses the amazon lense
[01:00] <cornfeed> sorry, i am just making my way back into desktops....i have been working on servers for a number of years using windows as a desktop
[01:00] <cornfeed> indeed. i didnt think there would be a #kubutu channel
[01:00] <jokke> hi, how can i resume a podcast in rhythmbox where i left it?
[01:01]  * cornfeed is off :-)
[01:03] <drknzz> Hey guys, just updated my kernel and reinstalled the latest beta amd driver but the testing watermark wont go away (i used a script that worked on the previous kernel), any thoughts? 12.10 x64
[01:03] <jokke> if this isn't possible, rhythmbox sucks for podcasts.
[01:05] <txanonxh> How many of you are booting with a UEFI MB ?
[01:05] <thioshp> hello
[01:05] <blackshirt> hello
[01:08] <nashant> daftykins: I've tried 'fsck /dev/sda3' and it shows no errors
[01:09] <sandprickle> I'd like to play w/ Ubuntu Server in a VM... should I use 12.04 or 12.10?
[01:09] <daftykins> nashant: so what's happening, you boot and can't do much?
[01:09] <nashant> exactly
[01:09] <H4CK3R> Un Saluto A Tutti!!!
[01:11] <nyl> hi
[01:11] <Noskcaj> nyl: hello
[01:12] <nyl> is gnome 2 still arround
[01:12] <nyl> ?
[01:12] <ikonia> no
[01:12] <ikonia> it's dead
[01:12] <nyl> :(
[01:12] <Noskcaj> nyl: linux mint uses branches of it if thats what you mean
[01:12] <nyl> i wanted gnome 2
[01:12] <twig11> nyl: I think Mate is the attempted reincarnation of gnome 2.
[01:12] <nyl> for my dads laptop
[01:12] <Noskcaj> twig11, it is
[01:13] <ikonia> nyl: #ubuntu 10.04 still has gnome 2
[01:13] <ikonia> Ubuntu 10.04 sorry
[01:13] <nyl> to install win7 transformation pack
[01:13] <Noskcaj> nyl: if you need it to look like win7 get zorin (#Zorinos
[01:13] <ikonia> nyl: Ubuntu 10.04 maybe an option
[01:13] <nyl> zorin has issues with ati drivers
[01:14] <ikonia> or other distros that still push gnome 2
[01:14] <ikonia> just keep in mind as a project it's dead
[01:14] <nyl> when i install the drivers it crashes compiz
[01:14] <Noskcaj> nyl,  then lubuntu can be called close enough but see if mate supports what you want
[01:14] <Raspootis> evening
[01:14] <Noskcaj> why install the extra drivers?
[01:15] <nyl> i tried it doesn't work
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: you maybe out of luck then
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: give ubuntu 10.04 a go
[01:15] <nyl> it finds it not supported
[01:15] <Noskcaj> nyl, ok, remember there are many different drivers available
[01:15] <nyl> i guess i gonna have to install 10.04 as last solution
[01:15] <nyl> :D
[01:15] <ikonia> nyl: nothing wron with 10.04
[01:15] <Raspootis> Is a Pentium 4@2.66Ghz with 1GB of ram enough to run Ubuntu 12 comfortably?
[01:16] <ikonia> still has a good few years of support left
[01:16] <ikonia> Raspootis: more depends on the video card
[01:16] <tripelb> Can't I put gnome2 on 12.04?
[01:16] <Raspootis> sudo apt-get gnome-classic?
[01:17] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, ubuntu maybe, if it doesn't try lubuntu or xubuntu
[01:17] <tripelb> Nexus 7 can run 12.04 !! And I plan to put it on. Using the 7 now.
[01:17] <Raspootis> is lubuntu gnome based? I know xubuntu is xfce
[01:17] <Noskcaj> tripelb, yes it can, if at all possible help with testing it as we need more people
[01:17] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, xfce
[01:17] <sandprickle> nyl: Mate is pretty much exactly like Gnome 2. I haven't tried to install it on Ubuntu tho.
[01:18] <Noskcaj> Raspootis, sorry, lxde
[01:18] <Raspootis> I guess if I want a lightweight gnome ubuntu i go for linux mint
[01:18] <nyl> http://www.howtogeek.com/55985/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7/
[01:18] <tripelb> I came in to ask if there was anyone with experience with putting Ubuntu on the nexus 7. The Ubuntu site has directions. Can dual boot as well.
[01:18] <nyl> i try this right now
[01:18] <ikonia> nyl: I'd advise caution with any howtokeek.com link
[01:18] <dr_willis> tripelb:  i think theres a specific channel for that. or in #ubuntu-arm
[01:18] <Noskcaj> tripelb, someone in #ubuntu-quality will i forget who though
[01:19] <ikonia> geek
[01:19] <Noskcaj> and yes
[01:19] <Raspootis> main question is
[01:19] <tripelb> Noskcaj: count me in. I have to learn how to interact with the reporting pages. (Is that github?)
[01:19] <Raspootis> at school I fixed up an old pc, installed ubuntu on it
[01:19] <Raspootis> can I bring in packages/applications on a flash drive, I don't have network access
[01:19] <Noskcaj> trijntje, join the channel and i will talk to you there
[01:20] <tripelb> Drjoin ubuntu-quality right?
[01:20] <dr_willis> Raspootis:  you can - but it may be a pain to get all the depencies
[01:20] <dr_willis> !aptoncd | Raspootis
[01:20] <Noskcaj> trijntje, type /j #Ubuntu-Quality
[01:21] <Raspootis> Ah, fantastic
[01:21]  * Raspootis works for flash media, too?
[01:22] <Raspootis> thanks for the help, ubuntu
[01:22] <nyl> gettin ubuntu 10.04.4
[01:22] <Raspootis> I'm guessing that ubuntu will be good to expirement with for learning linux, provided i install gnome
[01:22] <dr_willis> Raspootis:  ubuntu has gnome on it allready. unity is a shell for gnome3
[01:23] <Raspootis> I meant ubuntu gnome-classic/gnome2
[01:23] <nyl> yea
[01:23] <dr_willis> I wouldent even bother with the gnome-classic/fallback stuff..
[01:23] <nyl> it ha gnome 3 classic
[01:23] <nyl> to be precise
[01:23] <nyl> xD
[01:23] <dr_willis> if you want an old-skool desktop. use lubuntu, or kubuntu
[01:23] <ikonia> ubuntu 10.04 will do what you want
[01:23] <dr_willis> assuming 10.04 supports your hardware
[01:24] <ikonia> I don't understand why you are not just installing that as it is a genuine supported gnome 2 distro
[01:24] <Ghostd0g> hey folks, I am wanting to do a very minmal ubuntu install, I have downloaded Unetbootin and the minimal cd image (11.10 x64 mini.iso),   I have ran the Unetbootin software to put the iso on the usb stick .. but for some reason it wont boot,  I have been able to get it to but from another stick with the full ubuntu ... is there a way i can turn the full version to the minimal ?
[01:25] <Ghostd0g> the machine has no cd drive
[01:25] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: just remove what you don't want
[01:26] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: install ubuntu and remove anything you don't need
[01:26] <CavalierPrime> ghostd0g or install the server version
[01:26] <Ghostd0g> Ikonia : the full install doesnt seem to have a "custom" install option... and to install it all first .. and start triming .. thats a pita i would like to advoid
[01:27] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: should be reasonable quick
[01:27] <ikonia> Ghostd0g: most of the bulk software will go in a few clicks
[01:27] <Ghostd0g> server version ... perfect
[01:27] <jrib> Ghostd0g: have you checked the wiki?  There are alternatives to unetbootin that may work better
[01:27] <elena-IK> are there any drop-down terminals beside guake, yakuake and tilda?
[01:27] <ikonia> I'd advise against the server version
[01:27] <jrib> !install > Ghostd0g
[01:27] <Ghostd0g> have not checked the wiki yet
[01:28] <ikonia> ubottu should have just sent you a private message with some good links too
[01:28] <dr_willis> Theres some issues with the server editions on Pen/flash drives
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> Jrib: thanx
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> CavalierPrime : Thank you as well
[01:28] <Ghostd0g> and thank you Ikonia
[01:29] <Ghostd0g> :)
[01:30] <nyl> i would try zorinos
[01:30] <nyl> they had pure windows 7 clone theme
[01:31] <ikonia> who ?
[01:31] <ikonia> why ?
[01:31] <nyl> now they changed it a lil
[01:31] <ikonia> nyl: who are you talking to ?
[01:31] <ikonia> nyl: no-one is asking about a windows 7 theme apart fom you
[01:31] <nyl> to not look like win 7
[01:31] <ikonia> we've told you 10.04 supports gnome 2, that's about as far as this channel can take you
[01:31] <nyl> but hey my dad is uber retarded
[01:32] <ikonia> nyl: there is no need for that, stop it please.
[01:32] <nyl> ok
[01:32] <nyl> :))
[01:32] <ikonia> thank you
[01:33] <nyl> okay writing ubuntu 10.4
[01:33] <nyl> can i still update kernel and install latest graphics drivers on it
[01:33] <nyl> ?
[01:34] <ikonia> why do you want to do that ?
[01:34] <ikonia> nyl: use what ubuntu 10.04 provides
[01:34] <nyl> ok ok
[01:34] <nyl> my dad wants to use windows xp as vm
[01:34] <ikonia> you can do that
[01:35] <nyl> this laptop is crap when comes to using it for work since all his accounting crap
[01:35] <nyl> mostly run under msdos
[01:35] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[01:35] <nyl> lolololol
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> !automate
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> woops
[01:35] <Ghostd0g> wron window
[01:36] <nyl> and i told the guy that made the program to recompile it for windows
[01:36] <ikonia> nyl: not interestged
[01:36] <ikonia> nyl: this channel is here to help you with ubuntu
[01:36] <ikonia> that's all
[01:36] <blackshirt> nyl, maybe you want to go to #windows
[01:36] <nyl> can msdos programs be easly compiled to run on windows
[01:36] <nyl> fuuuuck
[01:36] <nyl> sry
[01:37] <nyl> on linux
[01:37] <ikonia> bad lag, sorry
[01:37] <blackshirt> nyl, no ...
[01:38] <Ghostd0g> was he really that "smrt" .. or just trolling lol
[01:38] <blackshirt> nyl, you should porting it
[01:38] <ikonia> blackshirt: he's gone
[01:45] <gris11> does anyone know how to format my disk drive to NFTS?
[01:46] <blackshirt> gris11, mkfs.ntfs .... Check it manual
[01:46] <dr_willis> gris11:  gparted can do it with a nice gui.
[01:46] <gris11> blackshirt do I just write that in the terminal?
[01:47] <gris11> tried gparted i got a pv volume
[01:47] <Ghostd0g> whats a good rule of thumb for swap space.. or do i even need a swap partion anymore .. been awhile sine i played with linux
[01:48] <gris11> blackshirt: dr_willis check http://i.imgur.com/x8bLt.png
[01:49] <blackshirt> !swap | ghostd0g
[01:50] <Deivid> Hello, I just installed vlc 2.0.5 and I can't find dbus anymore, the option used to be in "Control Interfaces" option
[01:50] <Deivid> anyone have any idea about it?
[01:51] <mrhyde> anyone know if there is a fix to the 3d acceleration for ubuntu 12.10 on virtualbox?
[01:52] <dr_willis> gris11:  i dont have a browser handy..  and i dont know what your actual problem is either.
[01:53] <blackshirt> mrhyde, your hw should capable running 3d
[01:53] <mrhyde> blackshirt: what....
[01:54] <blackshirt> mrhyde, your graphics should capable of running 3d ...
[01:55] <mrhyde> blackshirt: the latest ubuntu seems to drop old graphics incapable of running on virtual box guest additions so it runs slow and uses processing power to render 3d
[02:02] <mspencer> Hi, I'm interested in trying out GNOME Boxes, but it only exists in the repositories for amd64, but my OS is i386. Is there a reason for there not being an i386 version? I'm planning on building it from the apt-get source but just wanted to check this first.
[02:03] <Benn> How do you control screen brightness on Kubuntu. This is a desktop.
[02:08] <paris> Hi folks! How can I uninstall google-talk-plugin?
[02:09] <mspencer> A better way of wording that would be is there any reason why I shouldn't build GNOME Boxes on i386 from the sources retrieved with apt-get source?
[02:22] <fishbait_XXX> how do i find out the version of my kerenel and force it to install headers with the kernel updates?
[02:24] <fishbait_XXX> how do i find install headers for my kernel
[02:24] <dr_willis> !headers
[02:24] <fishbait_XXX> ty]
[02:25] <fishbait_XXX> now how do i automate that for every kernel update?
[02:25] <dr_willis> never noticed.
[02:26] <dr_willis> I think it does it after you install it.
[02:26] <fishbait_XXX> because it didn't install them this time which in turn broke my nvidia drivers
[02:26] <dr_willis> hmm.. never broke my nvidia drivers.. You using the .run drivers? or from the repos?
[02:27] <fishbait_XXX> repos and added ubuntu-x-swat... repos too
[02:27] <dr_willis> No idea then. I dont use the x-swat repos  I dont think the nvidia drivers normally need the kernel headers
[02:28] <fishbait_XXX> they need the headers to compile the kernel modules
[02:29] <fishbait_XXX> however you don't notice b/c it puts them in dkms which auto-recompiles on updates but they need the headers for each version to do so
[02:31] <fishbait_XXX> hence i need to include the headers in each kernel update the question is how to do so
[02:32] <dr_willis> You may want to check the askubuntu.com site. ive not heard of anyone else having this issue. but people using the xswat are not really commonplace. :)
[02:33] <rotham> hey.. im looking for upstart scripts to run supervisord... i found this article:  http://edvanbeinum.com/how-to-install-and-configure-supervisord and im wondering if the one at the bottom there looks good.. i wasnt sure what this did  'start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec $SUPERVISORD ', or why its hitting sshd.pid whatever that is...
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> ok so just completed the full install of ubuntu 12.10.. where do i go to uninstall all the crap i dont want
[02:36] <[o]> lol
[02:36] <[o]> start with a minimal install
[02:36] <[o]> then work up not down
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> tried that
[02:36] <[o]> no you didn't, else you wouldn't be asking said silly question
[02:36] <Ghostd0g> the mini.iso wont make a bootabl usb
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> and the box doesnt have a cd
[02:37] <[o]> hmm, the mini iso doesn't make a bootable, you sure?
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> yep
[02:37] <[o]> you could just dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/usbKey
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> tried it multiple times
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> unless it the usb stack ?
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> sick
[02:37] <Ghostd0g> stick
[02:38] <[o]> :)
[02:38] <[o]> dd'ing to the stick should be fine
[02:38] <[o]> it could be, and i think this is where you're going, your issue is the usb stick
[02:38] <[o]> do you have a usb-cdrom ? (easiest solution)
[02:38] <Ghostd0g> no
[02:38] <Ghostd0g> i might go with a server install
[02:38] <Septima> not all usb flash drives are bootable
[02:39] <[o]> whats your end goal Ghostd0g ?
[02:39] <dr_willis> or else hes booting the wrong devic3..
[02:39] <dr_willis> or the iso was bad...
[02:39] <[o]> i think this calls for "It Depends" (tm)
[02:41] <Septima> Ghostd0g: i'm with dr_willis on this, you should make sure you're selecting it properly as the boot device
[02:42] <ProfessorBacon> blarlblbalbabplabablpabrb
[02:42] <Ghostd0g> I did eve disable all other boot devices save for the usb stick in the bios
[02:43] <Septima> Ghostd0g: did you md5sum the image?
[02:43] <Ghostd0g> end goal is a lean linux instal that i can run xbmc on it
[02:43] <Ghostd0g> Septima : no i did not ..
[02:44] <[o]> Ghostd0g, go with freebsd then
[02:44] <Septima> it's actually sha1 for the minimal.. the hashes are listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:45] <Septima> there's a Xbmcbuntu; i can't speak for it though
[02:45] <mspencer> I'm interested in trying out GNOME Boxes, but there isn't a i386 package for it. Is it possible to build it from the source retrieved using apt-get? I'm getting errors when trying to build it using 'debuild -us -uc -i -I': http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449124/.
[02:45] <mspencer> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10, i386.
[02:46] <Format1> Hello does anyone know how to format an encrypted logical volume?
[02:47] <Format1> Hello does anyone know how to format an encrypted logical volume?
[02:48] <Septima> Format1: the same way you format any other volume; do you have a more specific question?
[02:49] <Format1> Septima: i don't seem to be able to do it.. i have tried to format directly from disk utility, no luck...
[02:49] <Format1> i have tried gparted.. same thing
[02:49] <Septima> does it give you an error?
[02:49] <Format1> Septima: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[02:50] <DrGrov> Is there any ideas on how to improve Unity + Compiz in 12.04? It seems to freeze up on me from time to time and takes almost ages to get back to normal window moving.
[02:52] <Septima> Format1: is it an SD card?
[02:52] <Format1> nope, its my HDD internal
[02:53] <Ghostd0g> Septima : Sha1 hash matches
[02:54] <Septima> Ghostd0g: then i'd try redoing the usb flash with dd or unetbootin
[02:54] <Septima> Format1: it looks like a known bug
[02:54] <Frogzilla> Is it possible to install a VM of Windows 7 on Ubuntu 12.04 Server through just console or will I need to apt-get ubuntu-desktop and remote in to my server and do it through VirtualBox GUI?
[02:54] <Ghostd0g> Septima : yep redoing with the know working usb stick
[02:55] <Septima> Format1: have you tried deleting the partition and recreating it?
[02:56] <Format1> i don't seem to be able to do it via gparted..
[02:56] <Format1> all options are in gray
[02:56] <Septima> Format1: is there anything else on the drive?
[02:56] <Format1> nope.. just the encrypted logical drive with ubunto 12.10 installed
[02:57] <Frogzilla> Is it possible to install a VM of Windows 7 on Ubuntu 12.04 Server through just console or will I need to apt-get ubuntu-desktop and remote in to my server and do it through VirtualBox GUI?
[02:57] <RiXtEr> welcome waleedsaud
[02:57] <Format1> Septima: http://i.imgur.com/ibEW3.png
[02:57] <Septima> Format1: then you could do a factory erase with the drive manufacturer's utilities or a secure erase using dd on the entire drive
[02:57] <Septima> Format1: apparently the bug only occurs when there's a partition table there
[02:57] <Jeremy_USweets> Hello all! I have a problem printing a pdf from ubuntu with lp
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> I try to print with lp test.pdf
[02:58] <Format1> so what u suggest?
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> And it prints to the printer, unfortunately it prints the pdf scaled to an a4 page
[02:58] <Jeremy_USweets> I would like it to remain un-expanded.
[02:59] <Septima> Format1: either one should work
[02:59] <Septima> Format1: the manufacturer's utility might have a fast erase
[02:59] <Format1> a secure erase using dd on the entire drive <- dd?
[03:00] <Format1> so i hit the BIOS and look for the erease option.. hmmm then the drive will be formated to what NFTS?
[03:01] <Septima> Format1: no, it's not in the bios
[03:02] <Septima> Format1: you'd download a cd from your drive manufacturer.. or alternatively use a program called DBAN, which i've used and liked in the past
[03:02] <Septima> or you can just zero the whole thing with dd
[03:02] <Format1> dd?
[03:02] <Frogzilla> Is there a better channel for
[03:02] <Frogzilla> Ubuntu Server support?
[03:03] <Septima> !dd
[03:03] <Septima> well worth a try.. i don't think there's a ubuntu manual page on it
[03:03] <Septima> i can give you the command, but you need to be careful with it
[03:03] <Septima> do a fdisk -l to make sure you're looking at the right drive before you run it
[03:04] <Septima> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/cough, replacing caugh with the reference to your entire disk
[03:04] <Septima> lol i spelled it caugh..
[03:04] <gogeta> rawr
[03:06] <Septima> you might be able to just run that for like 2 minutes, hit ctrl + c to break it's execution then gparted will let you recreate the partition
[03:06] <Septima> if you don't want to wait for it to actually zero everything
[03:06] <gogeta> Septima do what
[03:07] <Ghostd0g> Septima : no dice the mini.iso(12.10 x64) wont boot from usb ... trying to play with grub to see if i can change something
[03:07] <Frogzilla> exit
[03:07] <Septima> Ghostd0g: yeah, could be that the drive just isn't bootable
[03:07] <gogeta> Ghostd0g: i have ran that off usb before
[03:07] <Ghostd0g> the stick is the same stick i used for full install that worked fine
[03:08] <gogeta> Ghostd0g: i just used unetbootin to dump the usb on a usb stick
[03:08] <Septima> odd
[03:08] <gogeta> iso
[03:08] <Format2> Septima: i couln't boot dban cd wtf...
[03:08] <Ghostd0g> Gogeta : that the tool i used
[03:08] <Septima> Format2: yeah, sometimes it doesn't boot on some hardware unfortunetly.. for the most part it does
[03:08] <gogeta> Format2: check your bios settings and some have hotkeys to bring up a boot menu
[03:09] <Ghostd0g> I am now thinking of extracting the iso and using wingrub to make it bootable
[03:09] <Septima> yeah, of course make sure you're selecting it as the boot device
[03:10] <Format2> like making the cd boot option to the top?
[03:10] <gogeta> Format2: yes
[03:10] <Format2> k
[03:10] <Format2> brb
[03:10] <Septima> Format2: that or there should be a key you can hit to get a boot menu
[03:10] <Format2> i know how to reach the boot menu.. it just did't load dban
[03:11] <gogeta> Format2: you slect cdrom lol
[03:11] <Septima> Format2: i'd try the bios as well.. i've seen stuff not boot through the menu but boot through the bios list
[03:11] <gogeta> Format2: we are not talking abought grub heh
[03:11] <Format2> gogeta: i didn't.. -.-' there's only hdd, CD, network etc..
[03:12] <gogeta> Format2: yea hit cd from there
[03:12] <Format2> Septima: is there any other way to fully erease the hdd other then dban
[03:12] <Septima> Format2: use dd or your drive manufacturer's utility
[03:12] <Format2> care to explain whats dd lol
[03:12] <gogeta> Format2: i beleve gparted has a secure format option
[03:13] <Dexx1_> Hi guys -- trying to get my brother/parents to replace windows 8 with ubuntu --- Is there a lightweight version or pretty much the latest release will do the trick? I want the least bloated, fastest version
[03:13] <Septima> gogeta: gparted and the disk utility have a bug in them preventing him from doing anything with it
[03:13] <gogeta> Format2: thers the shred command in cli you can run from a live cd
[03:13] <Septima> Dexx1_: Xubuntu is my recommendation
[03:13] <Dexx1_> (I am walking him through the installation and he says there is a blank screen after choosing "install ubuntu" from the boot menu)
[03:13] <ikonia> Dexx1_: why do you want them to change ?
[03:13] <Format2> gogeta: gparted doesn't work for me.. all options are gray.. im trying to format this shit hardcore style
[03:14] <ikonia> Dexx1_: are they happy with windows 8 ?
[03:14] <gogeta> Format2: shure the drive isnt on its way out
[03:14] <Septima> pssh, nobody's happy with windows 8.. what you talkin about?
[03:14] <Septima> :D
[03:14] <Dexx1_> Septima: can you install Gnome/compiz etc on there if needed?
[03:14] <ikonia> Septima: many people are happy
[03:14] <Septima> Format2: if you tell me your drive manufacturer's brand, i can probably find you the utility
[03:14] <Dexx1_> ikonia: no..they are not..the shit always breaks and I feel like they'll do better with ubuntu
[03:15] <ikonia> Dexx1_: tone the language down
[03:15] <ikonia> Dexx1_: and I don't see how they will do better with ubuntu if they know nothing about it
[03:15] <gogeta> Format2: but if you can boot a ubuntu cd you can use shred its a cli comand to dod
[03:15] <Format2> oh fuck ikonia.. u tried to help me the last time lol.. i was the guy with the encrypted logical volume (pv)
[03:15] <Dexx1_> ikonia: what do you mean "know nothing about" ? Its just a gui ..and a better gui than the confusing mess of win 8
[03:16] <ikonia> Dexx1_: is it worth peraps letting them run on a livecd for a while to see if they like it ?
[03:16] <Dexx1_> ikonia: yea,,, except that doesnt work either...it hangs at a black screen
[03:17] <chintanparikh> Hey people, after I installed fglxr, my Gnome Shell turned into Gnome Classic. Anyone know why?
[03:17] <Dexx1_> (the computer is brand new--- so I don't know how ubuntu deals with drivers for new machines)
[03:17] <ikonia> Dexx1_: ok, so......it may not have the best hardware support for what you want
[03:17] <ikonia> Dexx1_: worth a little more research before rushing in
[03:17] <Septima> Dexx1_: maybe it's a bad burn of the disk or has some issue with that uefi junk
[03:18] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: What's your issue? I just fixed a bunch of black screen issues on my machine
[03:18] <Septima> chintanparikh: it's black screening after selecting either option on the live cd
[03:18] <Septima> install or try
[03:19] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: Same thing was happening to me, I ket rebooting and trying, took like 4 tries
[03:19] <Septima> chintanparikh: did you burn your disc at a fast speed?
[03:19] <Dexx1_> chintanparikh: well... my brother just boot into ubuntu and tried both options (try ubuntu/install ubuntu) -- they both lead to a blank/black screen
[03:20] <andrewaclt> Should I go ATI or Geforce these days?
[03:20] <chintanparikh> Dexx1_: Ah, in that case its probably your disk
[03:20] <andrewaclt> s/Geforce/nvidia
[03:20] <Dexx1_> chintanparikh: I wonder if ubuntu supports his graphics etc? the computer is brand new
[03:20] <Septima> according to phronix or however it's said that reviews all the hardware stuff in light of linux, you should go nvidia
[03:21] <chintanparikh> andrewaclt: Go with nvidia. I've just been dealing with a tonne of issues because of my Radeon card
[03:21] <Septima> i heard amd/ati laid off a bunch of their linux guys
[03:21] <ElectricPrism> Septima: I heard they laid off all of them
[03:21] <Septima> and closed down their os research division
[03:21] <Dexx1_> how can I be sure that the new computer's hardware supports ubuntu?
[03:22] <chintanparikh> Has anyone ever experienced gnome shell turning into gnome classic? I installed the proprietary amd drivers and it stopped unity working and turned gnome shell into gnome classic
[03:22] <ikonia> not really an #ubuntu topic guys
[03:22] <Septima> you'll definitely have longer support on nvidia.. amd/ati just whacked support for the 2000s, 3000s, and 4000s HD cards
[03:22] <OerHeks> Dexx1_, boot the iso in live mode
[03:23] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Agreed, Nvidia has always been better in *nix, also they just beefed up their 310 driver for Steam Linux
[03:23] <andrewaclt> Septima, I see I have a ati 5650 or something and I think it died on me
[03:23] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: every other component when custom built is generally supported, AMD / Intel you can't go wrong, also Asus motherboard of EVGA is good
[03:23] <andrewaclt> either that or my botherboard pci express port died
[03:24] <Septima> i don't care for evga, but i'll second the asus
[03:24] <ElectricPrism> Q: I need to share files between Linux and Windows, I would rather use EXT4 than NTFS, is there a way to use EXT4 in windows?
[03:24] <Septima> ElectricPrism: i seem to remember some really buggy thing that supported it on windows 7
[03:25] <Septima> but you'd probably be better off sticking with ntfs
[03:25] <chintanparikh> `ElectricPrism: Yeah, there's an Ext4 reader program for Windows,]. Buggy as hell though, kept messing up whenever it was a large file
[03:26] <ElectricPrism> Septima, chintanparikh: I've been recovering 1 million files from my NTFS for the last 5 days because the disk partition destabalized and then windows chkdisk destryed the $MFT QQML, but I really need some kind of compatability
[03:27] <Septima> i still use ntfs for my storage drive that used to be on windows
[03:28] <Septima> when i get some space to move things off, i'll reformat it ext4 though
[03:28] <andrewaclt> Septima, do you know if you need anything special for dual heads for nVidia?
[03:28] <chintanparikh> When I select Gnome 3 from the profile bit in the login options, I get Gnome Classic. Any idea how to fix this?
[03:29] <ElectricPrism> Amen, I just wish there was a compatability bridge so it'd make the migration smoother, I want to live In linux, but sometimes I still have to work in windows and even new FS like btrfs offer me no new advantages over EXT4
[03:29] <Septima> andredieb: not sure, from what i've heard of others, the dual displays work ok.. but if you start getting into the quads and such you run into issues
[03:30] <Septima> chintanparikh: no idea, that's weird to say the least
[03:30] <ElectricPrism> andredieb: I had a tripple display and had issues, went back to dual. Anything above dual is difficult to get working in my experience
[03:30] <chintanparikh> Septima: Yeah 12.10 has been giving me headaches for hours. I've literally spent the entire day today trying to get it working
[03:30] <chintanparikh> Septima: Tried reinstalling Gnome, but no luck. I'm at a loss for what to do
[03:31] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt: You shouldn't do, multi-head should work out of the box
[03:31] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, ok cool, have a card recommendation too? :)
[03:31] <Crell> Hi folks.  I have a very old Hardy server install.  How much pain am I in for if I try to upgrade it straight to 12.10?
[03:31] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt: depends what you want, I use a nVidia 660TI
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, I just want a lot of terminals :)
[03:32] <Crell> It's not a high-priority server.  Mostly just a file server at this point since I no longer use the mail server on it.
[03:32] <Septima> Crell: i'd just fresh install
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, kinda pricey for multiple terminals
[03:32] <Crell> That would be notably more work, I think. :-/
[03:32] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, I think the GTX 260 has a pretty decent review, and good linux support.
[03:32] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, thoughts on the nVidia GeForce GT 610 ?
[03:33] <Ghostd0g> is there a netboot minimal ubuntu install... i cant get this damn usb to boot of a mini.iso
[03:33] <ElectricPrism> Crell: Launch the Live CD, run "$sudo nautilus /" and move the entire drive into a folder called "@ Hardy" Then install the new 12.04 Server without formatting the hard drive and see if you like it, then move the files into your install if you do
[03:34] <xangua> Crell: you can upgrade to 10.04 wich still has plenty of support for server (3 more years) and if you with you can upgrade to 12.04 after upgrading to 10.04
[03:34] <Crell> Server install, no nautilus.
[03:34] <Crell> xangua: That's more reliable than a single jump?
[03:35] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt the 610 will do what you want, but I think the 260 will be cheaper.
[03:36] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: if he gets into the live version of ubuntu fine, does that mean the hardware is OK to install?
[03:36] <Jeremy_USweets> While I'm being active, is there anyone here who can give me a hand with printing using *lp*?
[03:36] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, ah but the local store has the 610 for 49$ and is on the way home from work :)
[03:36] <Jeremy_USweets> At the moment, printing a pdf file results in it being scaled, which I don't want.
[03:37] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, let me just look it up. I'd imagine it would work well for you.
[03:37] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Honestly it depends, I tried installing ElementaryOS (a derivative of Ubuntu) today on a laptop that works in Ubuntu and it didn't work, besides graphics I haven't ever had any driver issues with Linux, but I buy medium to high grade parts
[03:37] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, I have 1 hdmi and 1 vga
[03:37] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, so I think it should work right?
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt, it looks like the 610 will be fine. NVidia historically has nice driver support.
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> andrewaclt in my experience, yeah. It will be fine.
[03:38] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: this sucks.. he cannot get past the black screen -- booting back to windows, how can I check hardware compatibility quickly from within windows?
[03:38] <andrewaclt> Jeremy_USweets, okay thanks
[03:38] <Jeremy_USweets> @andrewaclt no problemo :)
[03:39] <claythompson> shot in the dark here, can anyone get "joe" cli editor to wordwrap?
[03:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: you might try burning another cd... at a slow rate of like x4
[03:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: wouldn't hurt to check the md5sums on the iso either
[03:40] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Are you saying the screen goes black when he starts the PC in 12.04? Because I had troubble with the Nvidia Noeau Open Driver, If he can Ctrl + Alt + F1, then he can install "$sudo apt-get install lynx" which will give him a terminal text browser to browse google and troubble shoot issues, whenever I run the NVIDIA-Installer from TTY1 it always has worked for me on my 260GTX and 460 Ti
[03:40] <Dexx1_> Septima: using a USB drive --- he doesnt have blank cd's.. I also did MD5sums
[03:40] <Septima> ElectricPrism: it's when he boots the live cd
[03:41] <Ghostd0g> ok where do i start uninstallin the crap i dont want now that ubuntu is installed
[03:41] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ...well from the bootup screen he sees two options: try ubuntu/install ubuntu -- both gives them a black screen
[03:41] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: What kind of video card is it? You can find out in Windows by using a program called CPU-Z
[03:41] <Ghostd0g> never mind found it
[03:42] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: It may be that a resolution needs to be specified @ the bootloader as an option like vga=1280x1024, Ubuntu has never got my resolution right QQ
[03:42] <Septima> it maybe doesn't have a video card, since it's a new windows 8 machine
[03:44] <ElectricPrism> Septima: If it's an AMD motherboard they are starting to integrate the video into the CPU for sockets FM1, FM2 and they call it an APU I believe
[03:44] <Septima> 12.10 was released back in like what? october... so i'd imagine it has built in support for the intel graphics in the cpu stuffs
[03:44] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: hmm..good point, is there a easy way to change resolution?
[03:44] <Septima> yeah, and amd's equivalent
[03:44] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: let me see if I can find what I think will help in the Arch Wiki
[03:46] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: its running at 1920x1080
[03:46] <Dexx1_> (under windows)
[03:46] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I wonder if the resolution is below or at 600x800 if it won't display properly, I've had a horrible time with Ubuntu's boot usplash
[03:47] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I think this paragraph is relevant if you can set boot options on the Ubuntu Live start screen, I can't recall if you can or not off the top of my head: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub2#Visual_Configuration (assuming the boot screen uses grub I suppose)
[03:48] <Crell> Is there a list of which ubuntu numeric versions map to which names?
[03:48] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Actually, this info looks more relevant than the Arch Wiki here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[03:49] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: by the way, cpu z crashes in windows 8 :(
[03:50] <Septima> lol
[03:50] <ikonia> Dexx1_: doen't for me
[03:50] <Septima> try speccy
[03:50] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: x_x
[03:50] <WXZ1> ubuntu's not recognizing my samsung phone
[03:50] <Dexx1_> k
[03:50] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: If the computer is a brand name instead of custom built - we can find out if you have the model number and Speccy doesn't work
[03:51] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: it's this HP Pavillion Envy all in one crap
[03:51] <Dexx1_> they payed 400 bucks for it on black friday and it's a piece of junk right now
[03:52] <Dexx1_> I can't believe how much crap windows ships with these machines...haven't used windows in years and I am always surprised
[03:52] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I was thinking of buying that exact laptop on BF, my old HP DV2500 is going strong after 4 years, what's the model on the bottom?
[03:52] <Septima> hp puts a lot on there
[03:52] <Dexx1_> (it's not a laptop -- it's a desktop AFAIK -- a built in monitor thing)
[03:53] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: OK i'll try to google it
[03:53] <ikonia> Dexx1_: getting a bit tired of you slating windows
[03:53] <ikonia> and slating HP hardware
[03:53] <ikonia> and slating everything
[03:54] <Guest3649> hi
[03:55] <Guest3649> i need bit advice
[03:55] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I'm gonna assume it's a "hp envy 23-c010" for 800$ http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+23%26%2334%3B+All-In-One+Computer+-+6GB+Memory+-+1.5TB+Hard+Drive/6983522.p?id=1218817850313&skuId=6983522&st=hp%20envy%20all%20in%20one&cp=1&lp=4
[03:55] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: yea that looks like it
[03:57] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: It might have a red ati sticker somewhere on it, If it matches the link I found on best buy then the graphics processor and cpu are combined into what they call an: APU, here's a link to newegg with the same graphics as the pc on best buy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113282
[03:57] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ok speccy works , here we go: http://pastie.org/5550520
[03:57] <Guest3649> hi
[03:58] <Septima> hi Guest3649
[03:58] <Dexx1_> AMD Radeon HD 7540D --- that's the graphics driver..is that supported by Ubuntu?
[03:58] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Yeah, "AMD Radeon HD 7540D", so we know the computer is a Amd FM1 socket motherboard, and it probably uses UEFI since it's windows 8, Q: does anyone know of UEFI preventing Ubuntu from booting?
[03:59] <Septima> ElectricPrism: quite possibly
[03:59] <Guest3649> i need bit advice
[03:59] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I'll bet some money that you need to adjust your UEFI settings to allow Ubuntu to boot, ill try to find a revelant article
[04:00] <Septima> i haven't dealt with the uefi stuff yet; i've been avoiding it like the plague as much as possible.. but i think you can disable the boot protection in most builds by accessing the 'bios' and disabling it somewhere in there
[04:01] <ElectricPrism> Septima: Amen! I've been avoiding UEFI and Windows 8 like the plague, got me back into Linux lately
[04:01] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: honestly I have no idea what UEFI even is....is that adjustable via windows 8? also how is it effecting booting? I am sure people have had to dealt with it before right?
[04:02] <Septima> Dexx1_: when you turn the computer on, there should be something that says you can hit some key to access uefi or bios settings
[04:02] <Septima> Dexx1_: it's right after you power it on
[04:02] <Dexx1_> buntu-Secure-Remix-64bit ?
[04:02] <Dexx1_> *U
[04:03] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_ UEFI is new as of circa ~ 6 months, It replaces the BIOS, it's an interface where you can edit your settings within the first few seconds of boot, probably by pressing "Del", "Esc", "F1", or some other key that shows up on the screen, MS wants to lock you out from installing other OSes so they're making it hard for you to use non-windows on your computer
[04:03] <Dexx1_> yea Bios settings
[04:03] <Septima> Dexx1_: yeah in there somewhere.. there should be an option to disable boot security or some other 'terminology' for it
[04:04] <gogeta> ElectricPrism: me to but i knew not to let 8 tuch any of my systems
[04:05] <Dexx1_> Septima: k.let me look around... that sort of explains this issue
[04:05] <Septima> the way i understand it is, ubuntu would have to pay microsoft to give them some signature key that people can put into the uefi stuff to let ubuntu boot with the 'secure boot' stuff enabled
[04:05] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: strange..k at least we are onto something now
[04:06] <ElectricPrism> gogeta: I could rage on Windows 8 for days :)
[04:06] <Septima> canonical, to be exact
[04:06] <gogeta> Septima: they aruldy did buy keys for ufi
[04:06] <Septima> gogeta: any idea how to use them or where to get them?
[04:07] <oneseventeen> I'm trying to add myself to a new group I created... if I type sudo usermod -a -G webdev oneseventeen then type "groups" I don't see webdev listed.
[04:07] <ElectricPrism> Septima: I can't wait until all the free software on windows goes out of exitence because of the new MS digital signature costing money, it's gonna be sweet!
[04:07] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:07] <oneseventeen> (even though webdev and my username are both autocompleted as valid groups & usernames)
[04:07] <oneseventeen> thoughts?
[04:07] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:07] <ElectricPrism> pmeseventeen: Are you root?
[04:08] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: nope, but running everything via sudo
[04:08] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: ok..changed secure boot to <disabled> hopefully this'll work
[04:08] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: I'm no experet, but I would try "$usermod --help"
[04:09] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Here's a page that looks like it might help: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[04:09] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Cool, :-)
[04:10] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: but as far as the video card/graphics , it's all compatible right?
[04:10] <Dexx1_> (hardware)
[04:10] <tree88> hi frens my hp dm4 pavilion 1063cl laptop 's right click is not working after i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 version please help me out
[04:11] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: thanks, that is one of the articles I found a while back, I'm using the commands listed in it.
[04:11] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Yes, even if the exact model doesn't have a optimized driver all *nix needs to do is have a generic Radeon 7XXXD driver, which I'm sure it does
[04:11] <oneseventeen> I've done this on many ubuntu boxes which is why it is weird to me that it isn't working now...
[04:11] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: still black screen...:/ dang
[04:11] <gogeta> Septima: 12.10 and up should just work.
[04:11] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Looks like the article is from 2006, hmm maybe we need a newer article
[04:11] <Dexx1_> he says he sees a :UFEI boot order and Legacy Boot Sources
[04:11] <Septima> gogeta: good to know
[04:12] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I wonder if you tried to live boot a different kind of distro if that would help you troubleshoot @ this point?
[04:13] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: let me try something else
[04:14] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: This article looks like it's from 2012 and ubuntu specific: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-add-user-to-group/
[04:14] <nydel> ehlo
[04:14] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: how about fast boot ?
[04:14] <Septima> Dexx1_: is there a purple screen that comes up with a keyboard and man type icon at the bottom?
[04:14] <WXZ1> ubuntu isn't mounting my coolpix cam
[04:15] <Dexx1_> Septima: nope
[04:15] <Dexx1_> Septima: the farthest I could get is "try ubuntu without installing" or "install ubuntu" ----then----> black screen
[04:15] <Septima> Dexx1_: this screen would be before that
[04:15] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Do you need to set your boot priority: normally motherboards do HDD, then CDROM, you need to confirm that in the UEFI that the order is CDROM and then HDD
[04:15] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: The screen looks like: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1354180067.png
[04:16] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: thanks, apparently somehow I'm in the group based on just typing "id oneseventeen"... I must be doing something wrong with my permissions
[04:16] <ElectricPrism> oneseventeen: Did you figure it out?
[04:17] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: weird..he says he sees those options, but no logo
[04:17] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: The screen prior to it looks like this: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/installation/live_cd_maverick1.png?cache=
[04:17] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: perhaps I need to try something like Ubuntu-Secure-Remix-64bit?
[04:18] <oneseventeen> ElectricPrism: nope... my group has write access to a folder, not sure why I can't create a file in it.
[04:18]  * oneseventeen is comparing folder settings with another ubuntu server he runs with the same settings.
[04:18] <Septima> Dexx1_: if he can get to that first screen shot there.. try hitting F6 and selecing nomodeset, then selecting install ubuntu
[04:19] <JPMH> hurst4359
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Did he confirm that the boot order is CROM, HDD WesternDigital, External, Network and such
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Oh, wait, but he does see the purple screen right?
[04:19] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: no he changed the boot order to reflect USB
[04:19] <ElectricPrism> Ah, yes
[04:19] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: nope..no purple screen
[04:20] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: maybe this is what I need? http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-secured/files/
[04:20] <oneseventeen> nevermind, for some reason I'm still not showing up in the group even with "id"... not sure where I saw it earlier.
[04:20] <ElectricPrism> USB devices need to be marked as "Active" for them to properly work as bootable devices, maybe he needs to set the USB partition as active?
[04:21] <R33p3R> need some help please, why apt-get repeats the same stuff 3 or 4 times ? this is making me update longgggggg... is there a way to remove those soures ? i can t find them on sources.list
[04:22] <Septima> R33p3R: there should be a sources editor some where in your settings manager
[04:22] <ElectricPrism> E33p3R: do you mean when you do "$apt-get update", maybe you have software sources listed twice and it's checking them more than once?
[04:23] <R33p3R> Septima: they don t exist in there...
[04:23] <R33p3R> nor or sources dir
[04:24] <ElectricPrism> R33p3R: Open Ubuntu Software Center and move your must to the invisible menu bar and look for "Software Sources" in the menu, there's a dialog with tabs and you can select repositorys, it could also be that one of the repos is really slow to download from
[04:24] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Did you figure out if the USB was marked as active? That's my next bet
[04:26] <oneseventeen> weird, if I type "id" it doesn't show my webdev group, if I type "groups" it does not show my webdev group
[04:26] <oneseventeen> if I type "groups oneseventeen" or "id oneseventeen" it does...
[04:26] <oneseventeen> I'm going to reboot
[04:26] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: the thing is..it reads the USB, but after selecting "try ubuntu"/"install ubuntu" -- that doesnt work.. goes to black screen
[04:26] <Dexx1_> gawd, I thought this was supposed to take like 30 mins max :P
[04:27] <Septima> Dexx1_: normally less
[04:27] <Septima> Dexx1_:  you sure that purple screen doesn't come up at any point?
[04:28] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Well then the partition is already active, so that's good, I would reccomend pressing F6 @ the "Install Ubuntu / Try Ubuntu" to see if you can start Ubuntu without the splash
[04:28] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: And if theres no F6 options then" F4 Modes"
[04:29] <Dexx1_> Septima: yea no purple stuff
[04:29] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: I wonder if Linux Mint would be a better option?
[04:29] <Dexx1_> Is it faster/easier to use for a beginner?
[04:30] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: This topic sounds like a similar issue, maybe the posts in it might reveal an answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2060908 . I don't really support any distro over any other, I personally use Sabayon and am planning on moving to Arch, ElementaryOS, or Ubuntu, Linux Mint has the Ubuntu Software Center since it's a derivative of Ubuntu
[04:31] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Linux is just one of those things that is superior once you get to know all of the software, but it's definately some work. It's more powerful than windows, but caters to computer users that like to be intelligent and really know their computer
[04:32] <saveTheWorld> purt in a different way,  you have to like computers to like Linux
[04:32] <saveTheWorld> put*
[04:34] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Try running the equivilent of the "Check disk for defects" as well, it can't hurt @ this point
[04:34] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: But really, the LiveCDs are a lot easier, I think most people still use them for that reason
[04:35] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: check disk also gives black screen
[04:35] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: what about Memtest86+ ?
[04:36] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Sounds like it's a UEFI issue again, he could try booting the USB on another computer to verrify the data and USB work properly if that helps weed out possabilities
[04:36] <Dexx1_> hmm
[04:38] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: According to this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI it does look like you need the "Ubuntu-Secure-Remix", that may very well be the problem
[04:38] <KI4RO> .
[04:38] <Septima> ugh
[04:39] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: yea, im gonna try that and possibly linux mint
[04:39] <Septima> Dexx1_: you could also maybe try the network installer, since it uses text based setup: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads#alternate
[04:39] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: Ok cool, hope it all works out for ya, I'm really excited for ElementaryOS, but it's in alpha at the moment, once it stabalises I think I'll move to it
[04:40] <Dexx1_> on linux mint (the one that ships with mate) -- I could still customize/change DE etc if i need to later righ?
[04:41] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: You can install different DE's and change a drop down menu on the login screen to change which DE you login to, it should be as simple as installing via terminal similar to: "$sudo apt-get install gnome-base gnome-shell, etc..."
[04:41] <rollitup> this is the day two of my desktop not booting , I do not get the boot options  and it goes to a prompt that says error : file not found grub rescue >
[04:41] <Dexx1_> ElectricPrism: dude...elementaryOS looks amazing
[04:42] <Septima> rollitup: try boot-repair
[04:42] <rollitup> i tried reinstalling the grub, updating it but still won't work
[04:42] <rollitup> Septima: also tried boot-repair but still get the same thing
[04:42] <rollitup> wonder whats going wrong here
[04:42] <rollitup> also this happened after i was trying to do a software update for ubuntu and the update crashed, I had to reboot the desktop and I started getting this error
[04:42] <ElectricPrism> Dexx1_: I've tried Mate, Cinnamon, Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.9 and all of them have rough edges imo, Cinnamon isn't so bad. Yeah ElementaryOS forked Gnome3 into a new DE called "Pantheon", using it was literally amazing! but it didn't install on my laptop earlier today properly, I can't wait to use it.
[04:43] <Septima> rollitup: i assume you've checked the grub configuration and made sure it's pointing to the right partitions
[04:43] <rollitup> Septima: I have no idea about how to do that
[04:43] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: do this
[04:43] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: How are you partitions laid out? type $ls, we need to know if you have a seperate boot partition, root, home, and swap
[04:44] <rollitup> ok one moment
[04:45] <fulcan> how do I upgrade Samba the a release that may not be stable? I am using Version 4.0.0alpha18 and the alpha and a huge known issue and I need the beta
[04:45] <dlnaClient> anyone familiar with using vlc to stream usb webcam to other vlc players on the local network?
[04:45] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: there may be a samba unstable PPA @ launchpad.net
[04:46] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, did you get any output from "ls" yet?
[04:46] <rollitup> i have booted using the USB stick
[04:47] <rollitup> and doing ls just shows dir like Desktop, Documents etc
[04:47] <dlnaClient> I'm stuck, can't seem to get the stream, i have win 8 running vlc as server and ubuntu 12.04 trying to stream to, ideally I'd like to stream to tv
[04:47] <rollitup> I have two linux partitions besides the swap
[04:48] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, I thought you were @ "grub rescue>"
[04:48] <rollitup> ok ElectricPrism when doing ls at grub rescue gives nothing
[04:49] <rollitup> i had tried this yesterday
[04:49] <rollitup> also when doing help gives nothing on that prompt
[04:49] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: That's weird it supposed to list your hdd paritions like so (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1,msdos1), ...etc
[04:49] <fulcan> ElectricPrism they do! How do I upgrade to it? samba4 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3
[04:50] <rollitup> perhaps thats why even after reinstalling grub umpteen times since yesterday i still see the same prompt upon booting
[04:50] <ElectricPrism> rollitup, assuming you knew which parition had your root you would do "$ set root=(hd0,msdos1)" "$set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub" "$ insmod normal" "$ normal" this would boot grub2 if the msdos1 parition contained your EXT4 filesystem
[04:51] <rollitup> should i do it at grub rescue > ?
[04:51] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: yes, you can also do ls (hd0,msdos1) to list the contents of "/"
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I know grub rescue is a pain in the ass, It took me a lot of dead distros to figure out those commands
[04:52] <rollitup> its a nightmare really
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: do you know how to add a repo in the software center? You need to add "ppa:samba-team/ppa" to Software Sources under the menu
[04:52] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: You'd think they'd at least have the decency to have a help command, honestly
[04:54] <rollitup> the grub rescue prompt also takes quite a while after rebooting
[04:54] <rollitup> is it suppose to be that way or there some struggle happening ?
[04:54] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I think grub rescue is hardcoded into the hard drive outside of the first parition, are you having HDD problems at all?
[04:55] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: In terminal you can also do "$sudo add-apt-repository ppa:samba-team/ppa"
[04:55] <rollitup> no I don't think so coz after booting through the USB disk i can see the partitions well even the ls (hd0,msdos1) gives only a blinking cursor,
[04:56] <ElectricPrism> You said you have two distros installed? So there's probably at least 3 paritions, maybe 4
[04:57] <rollitup> yes there are 4 two fat 32 and two ext 4
[04:57] <rollitup> and one swap
[04:57] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: the parition number starts @ #1 and the hdd # starts at 0, so (hd0,msdos1) is the first HDD, first parition, if that doesn't work adjust msdos1 to msdos2, or try to "ls (hd0,msdos#) to figure out which HDD is which
[04:57] <rollitup> after doing ls (hd0,msdos1) i get error: no such partition
[04:58] <fulcan> ElectricPrism do I add it too /etc/apt/sources.list ?  sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found
[04:58] <jennyzz> hi
[04:58] <fulcan> nm
[04:58] <fulcan> ty
[04:58] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: looks like the article I got the command from was 2009, so maybe it changed
[04:59] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: here's the part that gives me trouble, retrieving the GPG key for the repo before upgrading
[05:00] <fulcan> I've got the repo updated, now how do I install that specific version?
[05:02] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: other package managers like Sabayon have a --search or --find parameter, I assume apt-get does too
[05:03] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: another way is to search for it in synaptic
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: $ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[05:04] <Septima> apt-cache search
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> Ah, maybe $ apt-cache search samba"
[05:04] <ElectricPrism> Or $ apt-cache search samba*
[05:05] <fulcan> thank you!
[05:06] <rollitup> ElectricPrism: should i boot using the USB stick and then perhaps if you can suggest me to look up the partitions ?
[05:07] <sleek13> hey
[05:07] <sleek13> hows it goin
[05:07] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: glad it worked :)
[05:08] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:08] <ElectricPrism> rollitup: I suppose you could try launching gparted in Ubuntu, or searching "Disk Utility" to figure out how they're laid out
[05:09] <fulcan> ElectricPrism does synaptic require a gui?
[05:09] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Oh, yeah it probably does - I guess you have a basic file system without guis
[05:09] <fulcan> ElectricPrism apt-cache doesn't show the version?
[05:09] <elfer> manually setup local data caps
[05:10] <fulcan> command line commando!  :)
[05:10] <elfer> data caps*
[05:11] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I wonder if aptitude might have a search feature
[05:11] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude#functions_for_every_users
[05:12] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:12] <Septima> fulcan: apt-cache showpkg or show
[05:12] <elfer> 15 mbs? u have a t5?
[05:12] <atrius> anyone off hand know where one could find postgres 9.0 packages for 12.04?
[05:12] <sleek13> no cable modem but yes it is really that quick. suddenlink
[05:13] <sleek13> Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[05:13] <ElectricPrism> Nope, never used wifi - buy a 10$ wireless adapter for USB? idk
[05:13] <elfer> be eye
[05:13] <sleek13> no 45 dollar one supposed to be better for like 50 over more MB/sc
[05:13] <elfer> MBPS? or megabytes per second?
[05:14] <elfer> 45 dollars a month wont get u a t1 line
[05:14] <sleek13> no the usb wifi adapter is 45
[05:14] <elfer> at least 90-130
[05:14] <elfer> o
[05:14] <elfer> brb
[05:14] <sleek13> and yes i got 15 mb sec
[05:14] <sleek13> k
[05:15] <fulcan> p   samba4:i386                                                         - SMB/CIFS file, NT domain and active directory server (version 4)
[05:15] <fulcan> ?
[05:15] <fulcan> would that be it?
[05:15] <ElectricPrism> yes
[05:16] <fulcan> the beta?
[05:16] <ElectricPrism> v4
[05:16] <ElectricPrism> even a apt-get upgrade might have automatically overwritten the non beta
[05:17] <roxx> hey
[05:17] <sleek13> anyone in here can help me with a wifi problem? poor speed of under 600kb/sec on average and my internet service is 15MB/sec lol
[05:17] <sleek13> Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[05:17] <sleek13> and this http://www.belkin.com/us/F9L1001-Belkin/p/P-F9L1001?q=::categoryPath:/Web/WSNT/WSNTWLS/WSNTWLSUSBA is the one i got
[05:17] <JetForMe> Hi. I have two machines configured (nearly) identically, but on one, sudo env | grep JAVA displays the correct value, and on the other it displays nothing. /etc/environment, /etc/profile, /etc/sudoers are identical between them, and none of the users has JAVA_HOME defined in their .files. JAVA_HOME is defined in both /etc/environment and in /etc/profile. Any ideas? Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[05:18] <fulcan> uh-oh  http://pastie.org/5550693
[05:18] <roxx> hey hey hey
[05:18] <sleek13> thanks ahead to anybody that could help
[05:19] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: what does $python --version say?
[05:19] <fulcan> Python 2.7.3
[05:20] <ElectricPrism> 0_0
[05:20] <sleek13> unfortunately i am on the same channel as another router in my neighborhood. could this affect it this badly? only one network close channeled to mine. and...
[05:20] <sleek13> i can't change my channel i have some kind of autoset wifi router by the cable company. if i log into it then everything is grayed out and wont change
[05:21] <elfer> thats mighty fast
[05:21] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I'm not really sure what the error message is trying to tell us, do you need to do $sudo apt-get install libpython" and is libpython different than python?
[05:21] <elfer> are you sure u dont mean megaBits per second?
[05:21] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Is the OS 32-bit? or 64?
[05:21] <elfer> or is that what you are talking about
[05:21] <elfer> i get like 16 mbps
[05:21] <sleek13> yes one second i will even show you guys the website to buy the service lol
[05:22] <fulcan> Linux abcstorage4 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:22] <XRS1> is there an on screen keyboard available for the install?
[05:23] <XRS1> wrong button  >_<
[05:23] <elfer> okay sleek13
[05:23] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like it's the package for the wrong architecture, so we need to find the amd64 version
[05:23] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: since all your libraries are 64-bit
[05:23] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I installed python 3.2 but still got the same mess of errors
[05:23] <XRS1> is it possible to get an on screen keyboard during install?
[05:24] <fulcan> oh, ok
[05:24] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Python 3x isn't backwards compatible with python 2.7.x, they language changed with version 3.0 enough to break a lot of stuff
[05:25] <sleek13> lol i try to get u guys a link but it goes through some process for address and says i already got service lol
[05:25] <sleek13> but yeah 15MB sec
[05:25] <elfer> right
[05:25] <elfer> ->
[05:25] <fulcan> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-universe-amd64/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb.html  ?
[05:25] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Wow, the PPA is listing packages from 2011, I thought it'd be bleeding edge for samba
[05:26] <ElectricPrism> Looks good
[05:26] <fulcan> ElectricPrism gentoo to can flip back and forth between the versions using eselect
[05:26] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: I use Sabayon atm, too bad apt-get wasn't more like emerge
[05:26] <fulcan> ElectricPrism how do I get that one on?
[05:27] <JetForMe> Any sudo/environment experts out there?
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: are you on ubuntu 12.04 x 64? or gentoo, im confused
[05:27] <fulcan> ubuntu
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: because there are people in #gentoo that are way smarter than me who can give you emerge options real easy
[05:27] <Septima> JetForMe: ask it away
[05:27] <ElectricPrism> uh, wget?
[05:27] <fulcan> but I am a big gentoo user
[05:28] <JetForMe> I've got two nearly identical machines, but the environment for sudo on one is correct, and on the other it is not. I can't figure out where the difference is
[05:28] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: perhaps: "$ cd ~/" "$ wget http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-universe-i386/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_i386.deb.html " and then dpkg?
[05:29] <ElectricPrism> fulcan, oh sorry that like is i386 it wont work
[05:30] <L3top> that is also an html page that wgetting will not help much.
[05:30] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: the correct link looks like its: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/samba4/samba4-common-bin_4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3_amd64.deb
[05:31] <JetForMe> Septima: /etc/profile, /etc/environment, /etc/sudoers are all identical between machines,  but on one I don't get the environment I need when sudoing
[05:32] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like Samba 4.0 came out December 11th, i wonder when it'll hit the repo
[05:34] <L3top> new != better    though often times new is.
[05:35] <Al562> Hello! Does anyone know how to reset keyboard shortcuts back to defaults.
[05:35] <ElectricPrism> I've never got windows file sharing to work correctly in Ubuntu, so I think Ill take Samba4 in the future since it already doesnt work sadly
[05:35] <ElectricPrism> Al562: Gnome or Unity?
[05:36] <Al562> Unity  in classic mode
[05:36] <CayceH> Hello
[05:37] <L3top> ElectricPrism: Windows networking works under every iteration of windows and linux I run. Can you please expound on your issue?
[05:37] <CayceH> Has anyone heard of a game called scrumbleship?
[05:37] <Al562> I'm running 12.04, tried to modify screenshot shortcuts and now can't get them back to their original keys.
[05:37] <fulcan> ElectricPrism almost, but yuck  -> http://pastie.org/5550863
[05:38] <ElectricPrism> L3top: I wish I could, I simply have never been able to access my Windows 7 Shares on Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, the share is password protected, but your comment gives me hope
[05:39] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Wow! Also, you may consider downgrading from python 3.2 to 2.7, only if you can only have one library installed at a time
[05:40] <CayceH> Can anyone help me with opengl in wine?
[05:41] <Ziber> In 12.04 server, where do I set the timeout time for grub.cfg?
[05:41] <bazhang> CayceH, #winehq for help with particular apps
[05:41] <ElectricPrism> Al562: sorry I dont know how, in Gnome 3 under Control Center there's a "Keyboard" area that has a Shortcuts tab, maybe Unity has something similar
[05:41] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I took 3.2 off, same error
[05:42] <CayceH> Ok
[05:43] <fulcan> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1
[05:43] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: Looks like you need the package "python-samba version 4.0.0~beta2+dfsg1-3" first
[05:43] <Al562> ElectricPrism: That's what I'm talking about, went in there made changes, it did not take the keys I pressed, put strange combinations instead. Then when I tried to set them back it would not let me. ;(
[05:43] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: What does$ python-samba --version" give you
[05:44] <fulcan> python-samba: command not found
[05:44] <ElectricPrism> that's strange I would have thought it would have a command with a package name like that
[05:45] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: #samba has 141 people in it, maybe they know something I dont know
[05:45] <XRS1> what OS do i have to install to have the option of an On Screen Keyboard during install?
[05:46] <ElectricPrism> XRS1 - can you get a run dialog during install? Alt + F2
[05:46] <XRS1> not without a keyboard
[05:46] <ElectricPrism> Ubuntu Gnome Remix?
[05:47] <XRS1> im asking what if any OS has an OSK accessible using a mouse
[05:47] <fulcan> ElectricPrism I'm stuck in a mess http://pastie.org/5550999
[05:48] <Septima> XRS1: why is it you don't have a keyboard
[05:48] <ElectricPrism> XRS1: I know that in Gnome 3.4+ there's a menu called accessability with a onscreen keyboard option I believe, so if you can get to that top menu in Ubuntu Gnome Remix 12.10 then that should be a start
[05:49] <XRS1> its laptop i want to run headless but the keyboard is broken and theres no way to plug in an external keyboard
[05:49] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: or you can just do "Try Ubuntu" and then open the dash and navigate to the onscreen keyboard app
[05:49] <fulcan> ElectricPrism only ssh access
[05:50] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: sorry, wrong name
[05:50] <ElectricPrism> XRS1: or you can just do "Try Ubuntu" and then open the dash and navigate to the onscreen keyboard app
[05:50] <XRS1> just wanted to find out b4 i download any more ISOs.   tried Ubuntu Studio and it doesnt have an OSK available
[05:51] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: This is just as bad as RPM hell, wow.
[05:51] <fulcan> how do I untangle that?
[05:51] <ElectricPrism> can someone else help us?
[05:52]  * XRS1 is not qualified
[05:52] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: maybe we need to uninstall samba 4.0.0 alpha 18 and try a different source
[05:53] <fulcan> ideally this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1 I was told.
[05:55] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: looks like it's dated Dec 8 and the official release was Dec 11,
[05:57] <ElectricPrism> fulcan: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4
[05:58] <ElectricPrism> QQ
[06:00] <Err404NotFound> I had setup a ssh tunnel between my laptop and a remote server. In this setup i forward my laptop's port 80 and 443 to remote server's 80 and 443 respectively. I have been trying to access apache using remote server's domain but it keep loading forever. Remote server's firewal does allow port 80 and 443. Laptop's apache log level is set to debug everywhere and no log files are updated. Here is tcpdump from my laptop against ip of
[06:00] <Err404NotFound> remote server: http://pastie.org/5551114
[06:01] <Err404NotFound> Oh and laptop's apache is listening on 0.0.0.0(though in this case that doesn't matter), and apache is configured to allow from all against Location / with no access overrides within any vhost. Right now only default vhost is enabled.
[06:03] <ElectricPrism> Can you access it by ip address instead of hostname?
[06:04] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, also 443 forwarding wont work properly due to the SSL operates
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: so shall i deploy apache on remote host and use mod_proxy to workaround ssl?
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: nope, same issue against ip access too.
[06:05] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: also tried using telnet localhost 80 on remote server, it hangs on GET / for hours
[06:06] <ElectricPrism> I guess you could try installing lynx and confirming that it can access itself properly, im only a webserver novice so far
[06:06] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, whats the ssh forward line you have?
[06:06] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: tried that with elinks on server already, all in vain.
[06:07] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: ssh -CTnN -o 'ServerAliveInterval 60' -o 'ServerAliveCountMax 3' -i ~/.ssh/keys/special.ket -R 80:vps.domain.com:80 -R 443:vps.domain.com:443 root@vps.domain.com
[06:08] <Err404NotFound> a netstat -ntlpe on server shows port 80 and 443 listening against same sshd process so tunnel did establish.
[06:08] <lynx7os5> hey all, is it possible to directly edit and add shortcuts to the launcher in ubuntu 12.10 (preferably throught the terminal)?
[06:09] <ElectricPrism> Err404NotFound: traceroute?
[06:09] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: on which host?
[06:10] <Ziber> In 12.04 server, I want the grub menu to show up every time. How can I do this?
[06:10] <ElectricPrism> Err404NotFound: I would assume the :80, maybe it'll tell you how far your packets get before encountering the error
[06:11] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, looks right, this is running on the client?
[06:11] <Err404NotFound> ElectricPrism: on my laptop it goes upto hop 16 and ends on an ip thats not anywhere near remote server's.
[06:11] <Err404NotFound> dcherniv: yes.
[06:12] <dcherniv> Err404NotFound, client is same machine that has apache installed?
[06:12] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: true
[06:14] <lynx7os5> this shows one way http://handytutorial.com/manually-create-custom-application-launcher-in-ubuntu-12-10-unity/  .... but im looking for something along the lines of the actual file that keeps track of the launcher... anyone know where its found by chance?
[06:14] <Error404NotFound> Just checked. If i enable dmz on my routers and allow 80 to my laptop, i could access that using dynamic dns hostname from anywhere, so it can't be apache.
[06:15] <XRS1> is your router capable or routing to its self?
[06:15] <Error404NotFound> needless to say, i think it would exhibit same behavior if i had used a frontend proxy on remote server.
[06:16] <Error404NotFound> XRS1: yes.
[06:16] <Ziber> Anyone mind helping me get grub on 12.04 to show up every time I boot?
[06:16] <lynx7os5> Ziber:  edit /boot/grub/grub.conf, change timeout
[06:16] <Ziber> lynx7os5: Will that show the menu?
[06:17] <deper29> Ziber: no, for grub2 you don't change that file
[06:17] <deper29> edit /etc/default/grub
[06:17] <deper29> and in there they have a timeout option
[06:17] <deper29> lynx7os5: that's for old grub
[06:18] <Ziber> Hm, okay.
[06:18] <deper29> Ziber: after you configure that(read it, it's really straight forward) then run a 'sudo grub-update'
[06:19] <Ziber> I updated the timeout value, and so it'll show a black screen for what I assume is the value I set, but then boot anyway. There are multiple options, I want to be able to select them at boot..
[06:19] <lynx7os5> ahh, im not running the default grub for ubuntu.. on this system it has gentoo's grub booting ubuntu
[06:20] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, can you run this on vps? ssh -f user@target -L 80:target.com:80 -N
[06:20] <deper29> lynx7os5: ahh, I see. so you're using grub legacy then?
[06:20] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, ie reverse the tunnel
[06:20] <lynx7os5> deper29: but thanks, now i know not to touch /boot/grub/grub.conf lol
[06:20] <deper29> lynx7os5: for grub legacy you edit that
[06:20] <lynx7os5> deper29: yea, i believe so..
[06:21] <Ziber> Any thoughts on my issue then?
[06:21] <ejo> Is tuxonice just going to stay "might work, might now" for an indefinite length of time, maybe until a future Ubuntu release or until someone writes another hibernation package?
[06:21] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: ok, so in this target would be the current live ip/dynamic dns hostname of my laptop's network?
[06:21] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, where target is the server apache runs on
[06:21] <deper29> Ziber: edit /etc/default/grub
[06:21] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, correct
[06:21] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: confirm: to make it work i need to ensure port 80 on routers is still forward to my dmz host = laptop.
[06:21] <deper29> lynx7os5: just emerge grub2 :P
[06:22] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, yes
[06:22] <Ziber> deper29: I am. I set the timeout value to 10. I ran update-grub. I restarted. Right before it boots, it'll show a blank screen, but regardless of any keys I press, wont show the menu.
[06:22] <ejo> When I installed 12.04 fresh two months ago, I added tuxonice and it worked great... but only for a few weeks... eventually after receiving enough ubuntu updates tuxonice quit working right, even if I uninstall/purge and reinstall it.
[06:22] <lynx7os5> deper29: ahh, idk if i could aford to learn another boot loader just yet :p
[06:23] <jjbb> hello
[06:23] <deper29> lynx7os5: it's the same pretty much except you update your grub menu differently
[06:23] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: correction, shouldn't i also forward port 22?
[06:23] <lynx7os5> deper29: but maybe in the near future ;)
[06:23] <deper29> Ziber: here is my /etc/default/grub http://bpaste.net/show/65307/
[06:23] <Error404NotFound> e.g. forward 22 on router to dmz
[06:24] <ejo> s/"might now"/"might not"
[06:24] <deper29> Ziber: if you pastebin your grub me or the rest of the people could take a look :)
[06:25] <deper29> I really didn't think the linaro toolchain would take this long to compile :/
[06:26] <jjbb> i ahving this problem
[06:26] <jjbb> the ui of my ubuntu keep going back to window95-like ui
[06:26] <jjbb> you know grey and lame
[06:26] <jjbb> you guys having this problem ?
[06:26] <somsip> jjbb - post screenshots
[06:26] <somsip> !paste | jjrb
[06:27] <MylesMan> hello
[06:27] <dcherniv> Error404NotFound, shouldnt need to
[06:27] <MylesMan> i'm having an odd ocurrence
[06:27] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey Guys
[06:28] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> is there a pkg that notifies me if someone were to enter my shell or VPS?
[06:28] <mnathani> I setup scripts in bashrc or profile that send me an email on logon
[06:28] <jjbb> i dont' think it suppor image
[06:29] <Ziber> Well, hang on with that. Somehow the box lost DNS resolution.
[06:29] <lynx7os5> deper29: heh, ahh yeah see, that looks too complicated...
[06:29] <lynx7os5> heres mine :p http://lynx7os5.mdns.org:12345/grub.conf.txt
[06:29] <MylesMan> i'm running mythbuntu 026 (custom setup using the control-centre) and upon updating i noticed it downloaded libmyth 025 and 026 and only did this with libmyth the rest were just 026 any idea what would cause this?
[06:30] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> @ mnathani but nothing that can notify you in terminal?
[06:30] <obert> hi. i'm sorry. why sometimes i search for updates via 'update software' and i dont find nothing while doing apt-get upgrade finds some?
[06:30] <Error404NotFound> dcherniv: this seem to work, except it bind the tunnel to local interface only.
[06:30] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> because i constantly log on and off of my shell and dont want emails every time
[06:30] <obert> did i made something wrong from the start?
[06:31] <lynx7os5> deper29: but its a little messed at the moment, still installing a couple things and configuring, or trying to :\
[06:31] <Ziber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449426/ grub.cfg
[06:33] <Error404NotFound> so this confirms that issue isn't with apache or my laptop's firewall/router configs.
[06:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hey guys i need help with lightirc
[06:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> it keeps asking download flash player
[06:34] <lynx7os5> Ziber: grub2?
[06:35] <Ziber> Yes.
[06:35] <lynx7os5> its over my head
[06:35] <jjbb> here the image http://imagebin.org/239920
[06:35] <jjbb> guys check it out
[06:36] <jjbb> tell me why it become that
[06:36] <Ziber> I just need a way to make sure that, if the kernel that I'm trying fails (Xen), that I can get back into the machine.
[06:36] <Ziber> :/
[06:36] <Ziber> This shouldn't be that hard.
[06:36] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hey guys i need help with lightirc
[06:37] <fulcan> can someone help me untangle this http://pastie.org/5551434
[06:37] <jjbb> anyone ?
[06:38] <jjbb> so i just wasted my time posting my image
[06:39] <XRS1> you been customizing the UI?
[06:39] <XRS1> i did that once but i dont remember what i did to make it do that
[06:39] <lynx7os5> Ziber: what if, im not sure whats in that file your posted, could the splash image be the cause? i had a gentoo box do something familiar, with the splashimage loading and the graphics card not set properly... sounds almost identical to your problem
[06:39] <jjbb> xrsi , no
[06:39] <lynx7os5> *simular*
[06:40] <Ziber> lynx7os5: Thoughts on fixing it?
[06:40] <jjbb> when startup it will display normal ui then a few second later it become that
[06:41] <Ziber> fixed it, nevermind
[06:41] <Ziber> :D
[06:41] <Ziber> commented out the hidden line
[06:41] <Ziber> :D
[06:41] <lynx7os5> Ziber: well, dont quate me but, my suggestion would be to find the line the starts the slashimage and comment it out
[06:41] <lynx7os5> maybe to see, idk
[06:41] <rsvp> what are some things which will make a machine REBOOT on its own accord... (besides a quick power outage) ???
[06:41] <XRS1> ram
[06:41] <mnathani> @[_-S1L3NC3-_] this command should work if you put it in the profile or bashrc of a specific user: cat memo.txt | write username pts/0
[06:42] <XRS1> bad CPU cache
[06:42] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> hmm
[06:42] <Ziber> I win.
[06:42] <rollitup> hi there
[06:43] <Ziber> Googled and found someone trying to disable that message
[06:43] <rollitup> i am still struggling to get my desktop to booot
[06:43] <Ziber> s/message/menu
[06:43] <Ziber> so I did the reverse.
[06:43] <rollitup> i had a dual boot desktop win 7 and ubuntu 12.04
[06:43] <lynx7os5> Ziber: cool
[06:43] <Nimble> rollitup: what happens when you boot?
[06:43] <Ziber> So, now to make that the default... I could just reorder the list somehow to make it the first one, right?
[06:44] <deper29> lynx7os5: what is messed at the momnet? grub?
[06:44] <rollitup> and I was performing some kind of software upgrade which terminated abruptly and then after I rebooted i get and error message saying partition not found grub rescue >
[06:44] <XRS1> run a live USB and install testdisk   that should fix it
[06:45] <XRS1> or just reinstall 'buntu
[06:45] <Nimble> well, I'd go with the testdisk option
[06:45] <rsvp> /var/log/messages has been deprecated... now /var/log/syslog requires sudo to read it.
[06:45] <lynx7os5> deper29: oh, nothing really, it works, but this box is a long ways from setup.. and i may be changing a couple partitions around too eh
[06:45] <Nimble> if he just reinstalls ubuntu and he's damaged his boot record, he might destroy his windows installation
[06:46] <deper29> lynx7os5: i see. are you on grub2 now?
[06:47] <XRS1> that was directed @ rollitup   by the way
[06:48] <rollitup> Nimble: are issues as these really solvable
[06:48] <lynx7os5> deper29: little bit of configuring to do, thats all.. uhh no, it is the legaacy build, i checked (0.97-r12   GNU GRUB Legacy boot loader) :\
[06:48] <rollitup> i have been struggling with alot of assistance from this channel since yesterday but still no sucess
[06:49] <lynx7os5> i still have to install xorg lol, and then gnome :p
[06:49] <lynx7os5> not looking forward to it.... heh
[06:50] <deper29> lynx7os5: oh, I see. I like grub legacy because it works on my uefi board with no issues unlike this grub2-efi garbage. and xorg isn't that bad, but emerging gnome takes *forever*
[06:53] <lynx7os5> deper29: hmm lets see.. i had xp install a few days ago, ubuntu and debian yesterday, and gentoo over night compiling the kernel.. and still have to go back in and tweak that too lol
[06:54] <rollitup> Nimble: here is my partition table as it appears in Gparted http://imagebin.org/239921
[06:54] <lynx7os5> but today, ive been playing around in debina and ubuntu
[06:55] <lynx7os5> ive set up one partition thats on ntfs to be shared by all four with a bunch of symlinks and installed swap into a file
[06:55] <kelvinella> ls
[06:55] <kelvinella> hi
[06:55] <deper29> lynx7os5: kernel shouldn't take that long to build. what architecture are you building on? your two biggest things to compile will be firefox and libreoffice
[06:56] <lynx7os5> not without the help from irc of course..
[06:56] <lynx7os5> its umm..
[06:56] <ChupaCu> help
[06:56] <lynx7os5> deper29: its: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-62
[06:57] <lynx7os5> processor always comfuse me most in kernel configs :\
[06:58] <lynx7os5> its a duel cpu duel core i believe, oh, k8 i think
[06:58] <dougbb> How do I get GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL to catch up with reality?
[06:59] <dougbb> there is no directory where it thinks it should be, but there is a different one in that location
[06:59] <rollitup> isn't there any hope left to get this system up and running
[06:59] <Kartagis> when someone sends a message, pidgin displays a smiley until I see the message. this happens with KDE. is there a way to do the same thing with cairo?
[06:59] <XRS1> rollitup,  run a live USB and install & run testdisk
[07:00] <smury> i just installed ubuntu on a brand new laptop. I have never used linux before in my life
[07:00] <rollitup> i have already booted using the live usb stick
[07:00] <rollitup> how do i run testdisk ?
[07:00] <rollitup> there is something like Test Memory during the boot screen of the USB stick
[07:01] <Kartagis> smury: welcome to the world of linux. how may we assist you?
[07:01] <deper29> lynx7os5: you got your kernel configured though, yes? I always found CFLAGS more confusing.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> XRS1: What do you expect to accomplish with testdisk?
[07:01] <fulcan> can someone help me untabgle this? http://pastie.org/5551434
[07:02] <XRS1> rollitup,  sudo apt-get install testdisk -y
[07:02] <dougbb> fulcan: short summary of what you want to fix?
[07:02] <DaemonicApathy> I'm horrible at grep commands. How do I search a folder for files with a certain string again?
[07:02] <Nimble> rollitup: hmm.. I'm at a loss right now
[07:02] <dougbb> smury: welcome :)
[07:02] <lynx7os5> deper29:  i havent set the cflags yet.
[07:02] <deper29> lynx7os5: you'll want to do that ;)
[07:02] <Nimble> oh
[07:02] <Nimble> ok
[07:02] <Nimble> wait
[07:03] <dougbb> DaemonicApathy: that's pretty basic, have you checked the man page?
[07:03] <smury> i should be ok, I bought  "beginning ubuntu linux" from the itunes store
[07:03] <Nimble> rollitup, open a terminal and enter "sudo apt-get install testdisk" without quotes
[07:03] <DaemonicApathy> dougbb: I did, but I'm losing my focus right now, and need to get one more thing done before I hit the sack. ;-)
[07:03] <lynx7os5> deper29: yea, that might be a good place to start i guess eh
[07:03] <fulcan> dougbb I am trying to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/4.0.0~rc4+dfsg1-1
[07:04] <Jordan_U> rollitup: Do you know why you have almost 53 GiB of unallocated space on your drive? Is there a partition that you expect to be there that isn't?
[07:04] <dougbb> fulcan: what happens if you use the software center?
[07:04] <rollitup> yes i just left it that wayz
[07:05] <rollitup> hey guys i ran boot-repair again like say for the 10th time since yesterday and now i am able to boot into Ubuntu
[07:05] <rollitup> but don't see the Windows 7 boot option
[07:05] <Nimble> that's an easy fix
[07:05] <Nimble> do "sudo update-grub"
[07:05] <Nimble> it should find it
[07:05] <Gentoon> Thz bazhang
[07:06] <Gentoon> Thx
[07:06] <rollitup> Nimble: did that should I reboot now and see if win 7 shows up in the option list ?
[07:06] <Nimble> yes
[07:06] <Gentoon> I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 onto a laptop with no HDD using
[07:06] <rollitup> ok
[07:06] <Jordan_U> rollitup: Following this guide will probably fiz your problem: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[07:06] <Gentoon> an 8GB Flash drive
[07:07] <Nimble> Jordan_U, looks like he fixed it with boot-repair
[07:07] <rollitup> Jordan_U: thanks I think I've almost fixed it
[07:07] <DaemonicApathy> Never mind, I got it. I'm an idiot after staying awake for two days.
[07:07] <Nimble> Gentoon, are you getting an error while trying?
[07:07] <Gentoon> But getting some weird warnings during install about SDA Asking for Cache data failed?
[07:07] <dougbb> DaemonicApathy: :)
[07:07] <fulcan> dougbb I added a repo and thats pretty much what got me here. http://pastie.org/5551650 it keeps saying a package is installed (alpha) which is not and I cannot get past it.
[07:08] <XRS1> Gentoon,  thats not normal. are you sure the drive is good?
[07:08] <Gentoon> Assuming drive cache: Write through
[07:08] <dougbb> fulcan: Ok,  I personally find synaptic to be useful under those circumstances, it will often show you things that the software center can't
[07:08] <Gentoon> XRS1: I have been using it as a normal thumb drive for the few weeks I have had it fine?
[07:09] <dougbb> oddly enough, you can install synaptic with the software center :)
[07:09] <fulcan> dougbb I have no gui
[07:09] <Gentoon> I havent had an error that has stopped the install yet
[07:09] <Gentoon> [sda] Asking for cache data failed.
[07:09] <dougbb> fulcan: ah ... sorry ... I'm not proficient with apt/dpkg yet
[07:09] <XRS1> Gentoon,  i had tons of problems installing to my 16GB thumbdrive. it worked fine in windows. finally found out the drive is going bad. very slow to initiate
[07:09] <dougbb> Meanwhile, how do I get GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL to catch up with reality?
[07:10] <XRS1> Gentoon,  changed USB drives, problem solved
[07:10] <Gentoon> When I tried this before with the net install cd and this thumb drive it finally installed but was extremely sluggish and froze sometimes
[07:11] <Gentoon> XRS1: I only have one more and it is a 2GB, so you think it is the USB drive?
[07:12] <JetForMe> aniston1!
[07:12] <XRS1> Gentoon,  other thing to try is verify the checksum to make sure the ISO is good n "burned" correctly.
[07:12] <Gentoon> I guess O will just have to wait till I have money for a new hdd
[07:13] <Gentoon> XRS1: Yes this is the second ISO I have tried. So yea if this is still all slow after its installed I will just wait till I can get a new hdd
[07:13] <Ziber> So, #xen's not responding, anyone played with Xen remember how to install via an ISO to a paravirtual domU?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: Sluggishnesa can often be caused by a lack of hardware accelerated 3D, especially with Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:13] <Gentoon> Weird thing is when I use unetbootin to make a persistant USB live CD it works fine and really fast
[07:14] <Nimble> are you using the option to give it permanent space?
[07:14] <Gentoon> Jordan_U: it was more like after opring an application it took forever and sometimes stopped responding
[07:14] <Nimble> I've had a few problems with making live USBs that have persistent space
[07:14] <Gentoon> Nimble: Yea Persistant
[07:14] <Nimble> what I would do is literally install ubuntu onto the flash drive
[07:15] <Gentoon> Nimble: It worked fine that way, now I am actually installing it to a USB drive that is where I get the issues
[07:15] <Nimble> oh, I see.
[07:15] <Nimble> so you start the installation process from a live USB or CD and select your USB drive as the destination?
[07:15] <rollitup> Nimble: thanks for your support
[07:16] <Nimble> rollitup, no problem
[07:16] <Nimble> I hope it's all working
[07:16] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: So same drive, same version of Ubuntu, works fine as a LiveUSB but not as a normal install?
[07:16] <Gentoon> Nimble: Yes. Because my HDD Pooped on me, this is just a temporary fix untill I can get a new hdd
[07:16] <Gentoon> Jordan_U: Yes
[07:16] <rollitup> Jordan_U: and XRS1 thank you guys
[07:16] <Nimble> has the laptop had problems with noveau before, Gentoon?
[07:16] <Gentoon> If I have to I will just go back to live persistant mode untill I get a new hdd
[07:17] <Gentoon> Nimble: Do not think so
[07:17] <varikonniemi> weird, i have installed ubuntu 11.04 on a 512mb usb drive
[07:17] <varikonniemi> after remixing out al the unnecessary
[07:17] <Gentoon> varikonniemi: This is just a Generic USB drive from my school, could be why
[07:17] <varikonniemi> so even the slowes, smallest usb disks should work fine
[07:17] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: The only important difference I can think of ia the LiveUAB being compresed, reducing the amount of data that needs to be read.
[07:17] <Gentoon> Ubuntu required 4GB now anyways
[07:18] <varikonniemi> think you can get it down to 512 still, am certain you can get it to 1 gig
[07:18] <DaemonicApathy> Requirements aren't final in Linux, usually.
[07:18] <Gentoon> Yea it is an hour and a half into install now
[07:18] <Gentoon> should not take this long lol
[07:19] <Gentoon> I think I will just do the persistant USB untill I can get a new hdd
[07:19] <XRS1> Gentoon,  that'll work. thats what i did
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Gentoon: Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[07:20]  * XRS1 still doesnt have a hard drive
[07:20] <notwist> Gentoon: what happens if you try to install on the disk?
[07:20] <smury> ubuntu looks like os x
[07:20] <Gentoon> notwist: There is no disk, that is why I am doing this
[07:20] <Gentoon> The disk is dead
[07:20] <notwist> Gentoon: the one that broke i mean, it wont start at all?
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> smury: You can change the desktop environment, if you like.
[07:21] <Gentoon> notwist: no that disk is full of bad sectors sitting on my coffee table, its garbage
[07:21] <smury> in system settings?
[07:21] <deper29> smury: no, you'd have to install a new desktop environment
[07:21] <smury> ok
[07:22] <Gentoon> What is the app I can install to pipe output of a command to a pastebin?
[07:22] <Gentoon> the easy one?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> pastebinit?
[07:22] <Gentoon> thx
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> np
[07:23] <Gentoon> Unable to locate lol
[07:23] <DaemonicApathy> I don't think it's installed by default yet.
[07:23] <notwist> Gentoon: just wanted to check if any garage solution was available as a temp fix, I once installed linux on a partition 1/10 of the total HDD size on a HDD that got the whole computer to hang when used because that part was fine
[07:23] <Gentoon> No I mean apt-cache search cant find it
[07:24] <notwist> Gentoon: so unless the amount of bad sectors is insanely high, sometimes you can find somewhere on the disk to run it off for a week or so :P
[07:24] <Gentoon> I dont have repos installed yet cause its not even finsihed installing yet
[07:24] <Gentoon> notwist: the partition table is friend and it wont allow a new one to be written
[07:25] <Gentoon> fried*
[07:25] <notwist> well thats not good :)
[07:25] <Gentoon> haha no
[07:25] <Gentoon> I do comp repair for a living and this lady just gave me this laptop cause she couldnt afford a new hdd lol
[07:26] <DaemonicApathy> Gentoon: Now all you need is an oversized flash drive with a SATA connection, so everything goes nice and fast.
[07:26] <Gentoon> its not bad dual core 2.2Ghz 3GB DDR3 17"
[07:26] <notwist> Gentoon: go for an SSD when you buy a new one id say
[07:26] <Gentoon> notwist: I have heard bad things about how long SSDs last
[07:27] <Gentoon> I was thinking a 10000 RPM 500 GB
[07:27] <notwist> Gentoon: any downsides are completely worth it
[07:27] <DaemonicApathy> I saw a 240GB SSD at Staples for $69.99. Does it matter how long it lasts at that price? :-)
[07:27] <notwist> DaemonicApathy: exactly
[07:27] <dougbb> newer ssds last longer, especially if the file systems supports TRIM
[07:27] <deper29> Gentoon: you can configure them to last a while
[07:27] <notwist> SSD is just insane amounts faster and _no moving parts_ which you should care about if you move the laptop around
[07:27] <deper29> realistically though, they have something like a 5 year warranty or something
[07:27] <Gentoon> Eh ill stick with higher capacity magnetic drives for now
[07:28] <notwist> Gentoon: because why?
[07:28] <DaemonicApathy> Fear of silence.
[07:28] <Gentoon> Because I need a lot of space :)
[07:28] <deper29> Gentoon: build an nfs
[07:28] <deper29> *nas
[07:28] <notwist> if you're lucky enough to have a laptop with room for two disks you can have one SSD for the OS and one storage device
[07:28] <notwist> but as deper29 says, storage might as well be in the network nowadays
[07:29] <Gentoon> Okay imma go over to my desktop and make a persistant usd live Ubuntu
[07:29] <Gentoon> Actually it is at the "Configuring HW" stage lets let it finish
[07:29] <deper29> in a laptop you can't possibly need TBs of space
[07:30] <deper29> just grab a 250 GB SSD off the shelf and install it and be *very* amazed with the speed difference
[07:30]  * DaemonicApathy currently uses a 128GB SSD and a 2T external.
[07:31]  * deper29 uses a 128 GB SSD as well and a 8TB NAS
[07:31] <Gentoon> Sure you can
[07:31] <Gentoon> I have 3TB on my other Laptop and its 75% capacity
[07:31] <DaemonicApathy> Lots of videos?
[07:31] <Gentoon> Depends on what ya do
[07:32] <deper29> the performance difference is worth it to me I guess :P
[07:33] <fulcan> what am I doing wrong? http://pastie.org/5551754
[07:38] <madc|SPYnX> what is the best version to use in host requirement for LFS 7.2?
[07:38] <madc|SPYnX> what is the best version to use in host requirement for LFS 7.2?
[07:39] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: you are building Linux From Scratch?
[07:39] <madc|SPYnX> i want to build my own...
[07:39] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: if you need to ask that question, you are not ready to build LFS
[07:39] <wdp> heh
[07:40] <madc|SPYnX> I'm ready but i want a specific distro version to build :)
[07:40] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: exactly. You don't understand what LFS is
[07:40] <riqdiiz> what is it?
[07:40] <aetcore> If you want something to build yourself i would start with Archlinux
[07:41] <madc|SPYnX> i do understand slighlty i do have enough knowledge to that with the guide
[07:41] <wdp> madc|SPYnX, LFS is pretty well documented. check teeh web.
[07:41] <aetcore> its close enough to do what you want, but also has a community behind it
[07:41] <wdp> madc|SPYnX, and i'm pretty sure you're wrong in the ubuntu channel, asking such questions.
[07:41] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: yeah - well off topic here. Plenty of help available around the LFS guides
[07:42] <madc|SPYnX> some suggest to use Ubuntu but what is the best version of it :)
[07:42]  * wdp sighs
[07:42] <riqdiiz> how I wish I knew what it is
[07:42] <dougbb> madc|SPYnX: what problem are you planning to use LFS to solve?
[07:42] <wdp> riqdiiz, lfs?
[07:42] <aetcore> riqdiiz: im 80% sure they are talking about http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[07:43] <madc|SPYnX> What is the best host requirement to use.. i dont know how to determine wether 12.10 or 12.04 is the best to use.
[07:43] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: it makes no difference
[07:43] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: install one. if it works, use it.
[07:44] <wdp> riqdiiz, right. it's linux from scratch, i.e. building a linux system from the ground up, totally unrelated to ubuntu. They most likely suggested him/her to use ubuntu instead of fiddling with LFS (which is a pretty good way to find out how a linux system works imo, though not that easy to start with for beginners)
[07:44] <madc|SPYnX> ok ill be back if it works... tnx somsip :) is the ubuntu server 12.10 the same build?
[07:44] <riqdiiz> oh I think its better suited for #startups
[07:45] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: server build is not desktop build
[07:45] <madc|SPYnX> so is there any conflict with the gcc and other :)
[07:46] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: enough. I've helped and you are off topic.
[07:46] <madc|SPYnX> :) ok... is ubuntu server a gui type? how can i start from it?
[07:46] <aetcore> LOL
[07:47] <Danny_> Hey guys, long time Windows user just switched over to Ubuntu and I have a quick question. Is there a keyboard shortcut that allows me to minimize all my windows and go to the desktop? Like Windows Key + D on Windows?
[07:47] <aetcore> Danny_: depends on what you use
[07:47] <Ziber> Anyone here play around with Xen? ##xen has gone silent.
[07:47] <praveenmarkandu> hi. im using squid3 downloaded from the repositories. however I need some squid helpers
[07:48] <Gentoon> I am really pissed that Sandisk wont replace the SECOND bad 64GB SDXC card they have sent me without answering a million questions via email first and then sending the card back at my expense..
[07:48] <praveenmarkandu> but they dont seem to be installed. do I have to download and compile the source myself?
[07:48] <Danny_> aetcore I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:49] <aetcore> Danny_: This might be handy then
[07:49] <aetcore> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-ubuntu-unity-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[07:49] <aetcore> Windows Key + D
[07:49] <aetcore> would answer your question though
[07:50] <cristal> my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:50] <DaemonicApathy> For reference, "Windows Key" = "Super" in Ubuntu.
[07:51] <Danny_> Ah, thanks for the link. Windows key + D doesnt seem to worktho :(
[07:51] <Gentoon> M$ Just claimed they have overtaken google in Searches..
[07:51] <Gentoon> with Bing, Ahahaha'
[07:51] <cristal> my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:52] <fulcan> how do I get the version of this package? http://pastie.org/5551789
[07:52] <cristal>  please help me. my ubuntu did not open libra office , mozilla fire fox. what shall i do?
[07:53] <aetcore> cristal: you need to provide a little more information
[07:53] <Mechdave> cristal, what do you mean by not open?
[07:54] <cristal> Mechdave:  aetcore  while i clicking on the longer icon of mozill or libre they try to open but no window will find
[07:55] <aetcore> cristal: have you tried rebooting>?
[07:55] <cristal> Mechdave:  aetcore: ya i tried several times
[07:55] <Mechdave> fulcan, You want to install a testing version of samba?
[07:56] <aetcore> cristal: ok, the only thing i can offer is for you to update it OR provide some logs
[07:56] <Mechdave> cristal, open a terminal and type in firefox
[07:56] <fulcan> yes
[07:56] <Unclebeavez> hey gusy
[07:57] <cristal> aetcore: Mechdave ok i will try
[07:57] <Mechdave> fulcan, maybe you can start here --> https://www.google.com.au/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=samba4-4.0.0~rc4%2Bdfsg1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=uXLRUPTsDKKiigetuoDIAg
[07:58] <cristal> Mechdave:  is it sudo firefox
[07:58] <Mechdave> fulcan, you might need to install it manually instead of using apt. I personally would not recommend it
[07:58] <Mechdave> cristal, no just firefox
[07:58] <fulcan> Mechdave I already have that
[07:58] <fulcan> but I am very unsure of how to install it.
[07:59] <cristal> Mechdave:  ok, but nothing happned
[07:59] <Mechdave> fulcan, also you could enable testing in the software sources. But that has been known to break systems
[07:59] <fulcan> is that how you install it?
[07:59] <Mechdave> cristal, what does the terminal say?
[07:59] <vitimiti> (^.^)/
[08:00] <Semilevel> cristal.$> sudo apt-get install wheelchair
[08:00] <Mechdave> fulcan, You need to be prepared to do a full install of Ubuntu if your installation of this samba does not work. Using unstable software can bork your system really quickly.
[08:01] <cristal> Mechdave: nothins reported
[08:01] <fulcan> Mechdave thats fine, this software ''must'' go on.
[08:01] <cristal> Mechdave:  nothing reported
[08:02] <ikonia> fulcan: please don't start this again
[08:02] <Mechdave> fulcan, Ok no worries, as long as you understand the risks involved :)
[08:03] <Mechdave> fulcan, go to the README file in the directory of samba sources and follow the instructions there
[08:03] <fulcan> ikoniathe existing version from debian is crapping out on authentication and nobody on #samba will deeal with it because apt-get uses beta
[08:04] <ikonia> fulcan: stop telling lies
[08:04] <ikonia> fulcan: we will not help you with Debian
[08:04] <Mechdave> cristal, Ok... Open Ubuntu Software Centre and see if firefox is installed
[08:05] <Semilevel> Install Gentoo, fulcan.
[08:05] <vip> !ciao
[08:05] <fulcan> ikonia lies? no
[08:05] <vip> !list
[08:06] <cristal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:06] <fulcan>  ikonia what do you mean by debian? I am on ubuntu
[08:06] <ikonia> fulcan: 1.) they did say they wouldn't haelp you
[08:06] <ikonia> 2.) you know how to install samba 4 - you did it earlier and I explained it to you
[08:06] <fulcan> Semilevel I use it all the time but not an option here
[08:06] <lubuntu> hi
[08:07] <ikonia> fulcan: 3.) you said "the version from debian".....
[08:07] <cristal> while typrd firefoxin my terminal i found like this
[08:07] <cristal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:07] <fulcan> one sec, I will be right back
[08:07] <Guest64223> can someone help me out. I downloaded and installed lubuntu and it is great however i want to remove the default games but when i try to take off even ace-of-penguins it wants to uninstall lubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <somsip> Guest64223: this is explained here - same principle - http://askubuntu.com/questions/229368/how-to-remove-chromium-browser-without-removing-lubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <Guest64223> ok thank you somsip  i will check that out
[08:10] <praveenmarkandu> igonre my question. found it
[08:11] <Ali> hi members
[08:11] <Guest64223> oh somsip lol apparently it is only meta i thought it would take off the whole desktop so i dont even need it it said until upgrade
[08:11] <Guest64223> awesome
[08:11] <Guest64223> thanks
[08:11] <kelvinella> hi all
[08:11] <Ali> Do any one know about csync2?
[08:12] <fulcan> http://pastie.org/5551828
[08:12] <Mechdave> cristal, try renaming your .mozilla folder to .mozilla.old and then try to relaunch firefox from the terminal. To rename the .mozilla folder from terminal type the following mv $HOME/.mozilla $HOME/.mozilla.old
[08:12] <fulcan> lies?
[08:12] <Mechdave> cristal, no need to use sudo
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: yes
[08:13] <fulcan> read it!
[08:13] <fulcan> wtf you think that says?
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: I am in the channel and can see the whole context
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: they do not say "we won't support you"
[08:13] <ikonia> fulcan: one guy says it's hard to support you as samba 4 is a moving target
[08:14] <fulcan> I'm not going to seach that crap again for you
[08:15] <ikonia> search what ?
[08:15] <ikonia> I'm not asking you to search anything
[08:15] <kelvinella> hi ikonia
[08:15] <ikonia> hello
[08:15] <kelvinella> remember me from last night?
[08:16] <ikonia> kelvinella: the western digital passport ?
[08:16] <kelvinella> i reformat my WD Mypassport and now it can be read in thunar in  xubuntu
[08:16] <ikonia> that's great
[08:16] <kelvinella> i think it has something to do with the folder WD put in the drive
[08:17] <ikonia> you could have just deleted the directory
[08:17] <kelvinella> cant delete the directory
[08:17] <ikonia> you don't have to format a drive to delete a directory, but as long as you're working
[08:17] <ikonia> kelvinella: you can delete it...but your working now so it doesn't matter
[08:17] <kelvinella> it says input/output error when sudo rm Locale
[08:18] <kelvinella> ikonia, maybe they use non-unicode character for the folder name
[08:18] <ikonia> you can still do that
[08:18] <kelvinella> it reads d??????? ? ? ? ? Locale when ls -l
[08:18] <ikonia> it's fixed now, so no point discussing it more
[08:20] <lynx7os5> anyone here have experience with ehoover's netflix-desktop and have it freeze the system?
[08:20] <ikonia> !netflix
[08:21] <lynx7os5> ..version... 12.10
[08:22] <lynx7os5> thank you
[08:22] <Arash> Hello :)
[08:23] <Arash> why connections disconnect with delay ?
[08:23] <Arash> and how can I fix this ?
[08:24] <madc|SPYnX> How can i connect my Smart Bro ZTE MF627?
[08:25] <somsip> madc|SPYnX: to what?
[08:26] <madc|SPYnX> ubuntu 12.10
[08:27] <Ramtron> yo
[08:27] <Ramtron> can someone please help me fix my webcam
[08:27] <Ramtron> on ubuntu it wants to display upside down
[08:29] <Ramtron> anyone, pelase?
[08:29] <Ramtron> pleas
[08:29] <Ramtron> e
[08:29] <deper29> Ramtron: just flip the pictures after :P
[08:30] <Ramtron> ..?
[08:30] <Ramtron> it's a live webcam
[08:30] <deper29> is there a certain application that it happens in, or is it in everything?
[08:30] <R1cochet> hello, i just had ubuntu server installed on a system and i did a apt-get upgrade. now grub is asking me about a disk that is no longer present. how should i proceed?
[08:31] <deper29> R1cochet: try doing a grub-update
[08:31] <cristal> Mechdave: nothing happned
[08:32] <R1cochet> ok, so dont select either sda and sda1
[08:32] <R1cochet> or*
[08:34] <lfaraone> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04, and I now get sent to the grub rescue> prompt with complaints about not being able to find /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod. I have /boot/ on a separate partition, and I can mount /dev/sda1 in a livecd and see that the boot data is in fact there, But doing ls (hd0,msdos1) etc either returns that there's an unknown filesystem or ""
[08:35] <cristal> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449520/
[08:35] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | lfaraone
[08:36] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the RESULTS.txt and post a link to it here.
[08:36] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: Wait.
[08:36] <cristal> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449551/
[08:36] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: will do. Uh, is it normal for /boot to be ext2?
[08:36] <deper29> lfaraone: yes
[08:37] <lfaraone> Weird. It used to mount in the livecd, but now I get "more filesystems detected" when I attempt to moun tit.
[08:37] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: If the only disk in your computer is sda, then that is where grub's boot sector should go (never any parititon, like sda1). If you have more than one drive then there are other options, but if sda is the drive containing Ubuntu that's probably where you want grub's boot sector (though you might want it on all drives in addition to that).
[08:39] <R1cochet> Jordan_U: thank you
[08:39] <deper29> lfaraone: what are you trying to mount and how are you trying to mount it?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: You're welcome.
[08:39] <lfaraone> deper29: I tried to mount /boot, which is /dev/sda1. I did "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" from a livecd.
[08:40] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/UPge
[08:41] <deper29> lfaraone: you're in the livecd now?
[08:41] <lfaraone> deper29: Yeah, I have not been able to boot since I upgraded.
[08:41] <lfaraone> the above link was the output from bootinfo
[08:41] <deper29> uefi?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: What version of Ubuntu is the LiveCD?
[08:42] <lfaraone> deper29: No, BIOS
[08:43] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: 12.10.
[08:43] <lfaraone> and it's a live USB, created with unetbootin.
[08:43] <deper29> lfaraone: where is grub installed?
[08:43] <lfaraone> deper29: /dev/sda and /dev/sda1
[08:44] <lubuntu> hi
[08:44] <deper29> hmm, give me a second
[08:44] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[08:45] <R1cochet> is there a better way than another to add a user to the sudoers list?
[08:45] <Jordan_U> R1cochet: Add the user to the sudo group.
[08:45] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/cJZO
[08:45] <R1cochet> use command line or edit sudo file with visudo?
[08:45] <somsip> R1cochet: visudo
[08:46] <R1cochet> so just put the user in the "User privilege specification" section?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Clearly something is wrong as blkid isn't even detecting sda1 as having any valid filesystem, and neither is mount. What is showing it as ext2?
[08:47] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: gparted.
[08:47] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: uhhhhhhhh, I was able to mount /dev/sda1 as both vfat and as ext2.
[08:47] <somsip> R1cochet: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:47] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Do *not* mount it as vfat, if it's mounted as such currently unmount it now.
[08:48] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: In fact, just unmount it now period.
[08:48] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: it's unmounted now.
[08:49] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1".
[08:49] <Ramtron> can someone help me with my webcam? whenever I use it on skype or omegle it's always upside down, but only in ubuntu
[08:50] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: When I run "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1" I see both an entry of 0x438 as an ext2 filesystem with a long UUID, and also an entry at offset 0x0 as a vfat labelled DellUtility.
[08:50] <Ramtron> please?
[08:51] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: This isn't actually as odd as it might seem, as filesystems store their metadata and signatures in different places, though mkfs should have overwritten the vfat signatures.
[08:51] <Ramtron> I've looked everywhere for a solution, surely someone here can help?
[08:51] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: the exact output is http://sprunge.us/cCAc
[08:51] <R1cochet> awesome. thank you guys very much
[08:54] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: hm, so should I have wipefs remove the vfat signature?
[08:54] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Yes, I'm triple checking the exact command (since it's somewhat dangerous).
[08:54] <Ramtron> ????
[08:55] <chef_0_0> How do I stop a runit service?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please pastebin the output of "sudo wipefs --no-act -o 0x0 /dev/sda1".
[08:56] <chef_0_0> I have nginx running I need to stop it , If I kill -9 runsv + nginx, it still again and again spinns up
[08:56] <chef_0_0> please help
[08:56] <Fudge> any ideas on ralink 2850 i think it is eeepc, i can see a few wireless networks but not my own...
[08:56] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/NKUg
[08:57] <Ramtron> first person to help me gets my eternal love
[08:57] <lfaraone> chef_0_0: I think http://smarden.org/runit/sv.8.html might be useful.
[08:57] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: That looks good. Now let's do it for real, "sudo wipefs -o 0x0 /dev/sda1".
[08:57] <Ramtron> plzplzplzplz
[08:58] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Stellar.
[08:58] <ikonia> stop it
[08:58] <lfaraone> !repeat | Ramtron
[08:58] <ikonia> Ramtron: if someone can help, they will, saying plzplzplzp is just pointless
[08:58] <Ramtron> i've searched
[08:58] <Ramtron> and i can't find a way to fix it
[08:58] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Ran. What should I do now?
[08:59] <deper29> Ramtron: turn your camera upside down
[08:59] <Fudge> thats an interesting problem
[08:59] <Ramtron> it's on my laptop.
[08:59] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: After that, immediately "sudo fsck /dev/sda1". Hopefully there's been no corruption, but it's best to confirm (and unfortunately there may have been data corruption which fsck won't be able to detect or fix).
[08:59] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: oh, now wipefs reports another dellUtility marker at 0x1fe.
[08:59] <Fudge> unity-3d?
[08:59] <deper29> Jordan_U: why not just repartition it with parted?
[09:00] <Ramtron> how can i see what kind of webcam i have so i can search further
[09:00] <Ramtron> i have ubuntu 12.04
[09:00] <Fudge> Ramtron  ubuntu-3d?
[09:00] <Ramtron> nope
[09:00] <Fudge> Ramtron  cat .dmrc
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: "lsusb" will probably list it.
[09:00] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: fsck said it is clean, but mounting without -t still causes "more filesystems detected"
[09:01] <Ramtron> [Desktop]
[09:01] <Ramtron> Session=cinnamon2d
[09:01] <ikonia> cinnamon....
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Though remember that if you want to post more than one line in this channel, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[09:01] <Ramtron> thanks it did
[09:01] <ikonia> Ramtron: did you get that from a PPA?
[09:01] <Ramtron> ppa?
[09:01] <lfaraone> !ppa | Ramtron
[09:01] <ikonia> !info cinnamon
[09:01] <Ramtron> i think i just got it from google
[09:01] <Ramtron> why?
[09:02] <ikonia> you didn't get it from google
[09:02] <Fudge> Ramtron  logout and choose ubuntu-3d or unity-3d and see if it still does it, or bypass compiz and use 2d for a test
[09:02] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Lets get rid of the other signature as well then. (I don't know why wipefs didn't list it initially).
[09:02] <ikonia> Ramtron: the cinnamon desktop is not supplied by ubuntu and has come from a 3rd party
[09:02] <Ramtron> so you think cinnamon might be the problem?
[09:03] <Ramtron> i'll try logging out then
[09:03] <Ramtron> thanks
[09:03] <Fudge> video test in gstreamer-properties and see if it is correct way up there Ramtron
[09:03] <ikonia> I don't know what cinnamon PPA updates
[09:03] <Ramtron> how do i do that?
[09:03] <Fudge> i tried it, didnt like it went straight back to unity
[09:03] <Ramtron> i just like it cause it's themable
[09:03] <Fudge> Ramtron  type the command into a terminal
[09:04] <ikonia> Ramtron: yes, but it's also not provided by ubuntu
[09:04] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: nothing else listed now.
[09:04] <ikonia> Ramtron: you need to weigh up "themes" against software that is supported and guarenteed compatible with ubuntu and associated applications
[09:04] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Can you pastebin the new output of "sudo wipefs --no-act /dev/sda1"? (or figure out the command on your own, now that I remember that this is just a /boot/ partition I don't think quite as much paranoia about wipefs is needed).
[09:04] <Ramtron> is there any others similar to cinnamon that are?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: You had wipefs wipe it?
[09:05] <Fudge> Ramtron  I agree with ikonia
[09:05] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Just did, yes.
[09:05] <Fudge> just listen and put that aside, you asked for help with webcams?
[09:05] <Ramtron> yessir
[09:05] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: and I can now mount without -t. Shall I try rebooting?
[09:05] <SpaceRocket> how to change disk encryption passphrase ?
[09:05] <Fudge> we've given you two options, try them, run gstreamer-properties and do the video test
[09:06] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: First "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1".
[09:06] <narutolinux> hello
[09:06] <Ramtron> ok in gstreamer it wasn't upside down
[09:06] <narutolinux> anyone here good at renaming multiple files using command 'rename'
[09:06] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: no errors.
[09:06] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Then yes, try rebooting.
[09:06] <Fudge> have you isntalled any additional drivers from settings manager Ramtron
[09:06] <Fudge> installed
[09:07] <Ramtron> i searched for them when i first installed ubuntu yeah
[09:07] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: :( still getting the same error by grub.
[09:08] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: From the Ubuntu 12.10 liveCD, "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".
[09:08] <Fudge> did you install a driver then Ramtron , take a look
[09:08] <Ramtron> i installed all the available ones i meant
[09:09] <Ramtron> yup
[09:09] <Ramtron> didn't find any new ones
[09:09] <Fudge> Ramtron  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1596924
[09:09] <Fudge> that may help you
[09:09] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Installation finished, no error reported.
[09:09] <Ramtron> i do have an asus
[09:09] <Fudge> no garuntees though
[09:09] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Many times laptop manufacturers will deal with cameras being installed upside down in their laptops by fixing it in their Windows drivers (having the drivers flip the image as needed), rather than making sure they get installed right side up.
[09:09] <Fudge> Jordan_U  I thought the same but the video test was the right way
[09:10] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: annnnnnndd same error.
[09:10] <Ramtron> yeah but it's fine on widnows
[09:10] <Ramtron> windows*
[09:10] <SpaceRocket> how to change disk encryption passphrase ?
[09:11] <Ramtron> this might work if it does what it says it does
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Because of this GNU/Linux developers have needed to find such devices and add code to work around this as well. It seems that the gstreamer based code knows about your particular hardware quirk, but whatever other app your using uses a different set of libraries for grabbing the video that doesn't.
[09:11] <Ramtron> makes sense
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: What app are you using to try to grab video from the webcam?
[09:12] <Ramtron> skype or a flash based one on omegle
[09:12] <deper29> lfaraone: are you in the livecd now?
[09:12] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  cryptsetup?
[09:12] <lfaraone> deper29: rebooted back into it, yeah.
[09:13] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  if you know the passphrase
[09:13] <SpaceRocket> Fudge, I'm using full disk encryption created by Ubuntu 12.10 installation,  how to use cryptsetup ?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: Indeed neither of those use gstreamer. Empathy, Cheese, and PiTiVi will probably have right side up video, like gstreamer-properties does, for whatever good that does you.
[09:14] <Ramtron> https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398551_440734635981195_1343642189_n.jpg
[09:14] <SpaceRocket> Fudge, sudo cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sda ?
[09:14] <deper29> lfaraone: after you did the grub install, did you do a grub-update?
[09:14] <Fudge> SpaceRocket  i donno mate i just googled it, cryptsetup lucksaddkey /dev/sda# where # is the disk
[09:14] <Jordan_U> Ramtron: I'm assuming you didn't mean to post that picture. Please don't do it again.
[09:14] <CruX|> wxwidgets on my kubuntu are linked with GTK
[09:14] <Fudge> but i would read the man page and google more, google ubuntu disk pass phrase change
[09:14] <CruX|> and looks VERY UGLY
[09:14] <umer> hello everyone....can any one help me with my wireless device ?
[09:14] <CruX|> how can I swi9tch them into qt backend ?
[09:14] <lfaraone> deper29: not the most recent time, no.
[09:14] <deper29> !help | CruX|
[09:14] <lfaraone> deper29: but I have done so tonight.
[09:15] <CruX|> is there any wxqt package ?
[09:15] <deper29> lfaraone: I believe you have to do that after re-installing grub
[09:15] <lfaraone> deper29: k.
[09:15] <deper29> does sudo blkid recognize sda1?
[09:15] <aaas> i have 2 raspberry pis that wont x11 forward,  (i get 'cannot open display:localhost:10.0), it does work with a third ubuntu machine (xforwarding is enabled in the putty sessions, tried 2 xservers) any ideas?
[09:16] <Jordan_U> deper29: lfaraone: update-grub just re-writes the /boot/grub/grub.cfg. Since lfaraone is seeing a grub rescue shell, grub hasn't even gotten to the point where it's reading the grub.cfg.
[09:17] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Please re-run boot info script.
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[09:17] <FloodBot1> homo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:19] <umer> guys i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 and my wireless driver isnt working.i have installed the propritery driver that ubuntu has using the additional driver but nothing..can anyone help?
[09:19] <antonio_> Does anyone know how to send a free fax via ubuntu?
[09:20] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/TZEA
[09:20] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Did you run the grub-install command I gave you?
[09:21] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Yes.
[09:21] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Did grub-install give any output?
[09:21] <Ramtron> why does it say command not found for "sudo aptitude update"
[09:21] <notwist> Ramtron: dont use aptitude, use apt-get
[09:21] <notwist> Ramtron: sudo apt-get update
[09:21] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: "Installation finished. No error reported."
[09:21] <Ramtron> thanks
[09:22] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: What is the output of "grub-install --version" from the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[09:22] <notwist> Ramtron: note that "update" only updates repository lists, do "upgrade" to actually upgrade the packets
[09:22] <Ramtron> i dunno i'm just following instructions
[09:22] <Ramtron> no idea what i'm doing
[09:23] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: 2.00-7ubuntu11
[09:23] <notwist> Ramtron: you're making sure your updated programs are up to date
[09:23] <notwist> Ramtron: by running "update" it checks for new versions, by running "upgrade" you actually install those new versions
[09:24] <Ramtron> ooh, i see, well hopefully this fixes it then
[09:24] <Ramtron> still upside down :(
[09:24] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: I think that you do have UEFI firmware, and you just don't know it.
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: from googling my hardware model, my firmware is UEFI-based, but Dell shipped it with UEFI disabled.
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Uh, if I have uefi, should I install grub differently?
[09:25] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --target=i386-pc --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda".
[09:25] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Similarly, no error reported.
[09:26] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Yes, but this time it installed grub for BIOS :) (hopefully).
[09:27] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: rebooting after doing that gave me the same rescue prompt and error.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Then I'm completely confused.
[09:27] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Can you run boot info script one more time?
[09:27] <antonio_> Does anyone know how to send a free fax via ubuntu?
[09:29] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/iOVO
[09:32] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --debug --target=i386-pc --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda" and please pastebin the full output.
[09:33] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: http://sprunge.us/aHjg
[09:36] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: I think that boot info script is simply reporting the wrong version of grub, but that still leaves the question of what's going wrong.
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[09:37] <FloodBot1> THEBILL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:37] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: At the grub rescue shell you can list devices / partitions by running "ls" and you can print all variables by running "set". Please tell me the devices listed by "ls" and the value of $prefix according to "set".
[09:38] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub
[09:38] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: ls reports (hd0) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[09:40] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Does "ls $prefix" list files?
[09:40] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: no,
[09:40] <Guest42707> vand Bichon maltez de 6 saptamani, foarte frumos si jucaus, carnet de sanatate, deparazitat 150 euro 0755641762
[09:40] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: "error: file '/grub' not found."
[09:41] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: What about "ls (hd0,msdos1)/" ?
[09:41] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: empty.
[09:42] <Guest42707> vand Bichon maltez de 6 saptamani, foarte frumos si jucaus, carnet de sanatate, deparazitat 150 euro 0755641762
[09:42] <DJones> Guest42707: Looks like you've got the wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support
[09:42] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: "ls (hd0,msdos1)" ?
[09:42] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: The same.
[09:46] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Ahh, I think I know what's going on now.
[09:46] <lfaraone> Neat.
[09:46] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: grub-install is still detecting the filesystem as fat, and thus isn't including the ext2 module in its core.img.
[09:47] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: Can we force it otherwise?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: So right now it's seeing a perfectly valid vfat filesystem, with no files in it.
[09:48] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: We can force it to include the ext2 module, yes. But we should try to figure out how to get the last remnants of that fat filesystem gone if possible instead (having two seemingly valid filesystems is dangerous and could break other things).
[09:49] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: perhaps copy the contents of the ext2 filesystem somewhere else, wipe it, and repartition?
[09:50] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: That would do it, yes. (don't forget to update your fstab for the new filesystem UUID).
[09:51] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: Now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure that mkfs.ext4 and mkfs.ext3 both intentionally overwrite fat (and other) filesystem signature for this very reason, it may be that mkfs.ext2 is out of use enough that nobody remembered to backport that feature.
[09:52] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: I'm going to assume that you can manage from here. Ping me if you have any questions.
[09:53] <mat619> Hey there, got a question regarding disk encryption: We want to roll out laptops based on Linux, currently we're trying Ubuntu 12.04 and CentOS 6.3. It's a company requirement that the users file storage space must be encrypted, so I selected encryption for /home when setting up the systems. Now I wondered, what I could do when a user in the field forgets his encryption password?
[09:54] <somsip> mat619: nothing
[09:54] <mat619> somsip: uh-oh. show stopper, then.
[09:54] <somsip> mat619: one way private encryption. Unless they share the key with you
[09:54] <tsimpson> mat619: that's the point of encryption right? without the password you can't access the data
[09:55] <sexxxy> hey
[09:55] <sexxxy> anyone know about mysqldump?
[09:55] <mat619> somsip: can't I define a secondary key for admin purposes?
[09:55] <somsip> !ask | sexxxy
[09:55] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: thanks, will do :)
[09:55] <sexxxy> !justmakingsure
[09:56] <somsip> mat619: not that I'm aware of
[09:56] <alin_> ! اثمح
[09:56] <mat619> somsip: so if anyone locks himself out, I can give them the "emergency password", they log into their box, I remote in via TeamViewer and reset the password? That would be neat
[09:56] <Jordan_U> lfaraone: You're welcome :)
[09:56] <somsip> mat619: are you talking about login passwords now or encryption?
[09:57] <mat619> somsip: encryption.
[09:57] <mat619> somsip: if you enable /home encryption, the system won't boot at all, so if they forget their password, they can't boot it
[09:58] <mat619> somsip: *won't boot at all if you don't enter the password
[09:58] <somsip> mat619: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1698308
[09:58] <NetJunky> Morning everyone!
[09:58] <somsip> mat619: and I'm going out now so don't expect another reply
[09:58] <NetJunky> Guys did anyone in here use Ubuntu Server as guest system on V
[09:59] <mat619> somsip: k, thx for the pointer, that gives me a hint - thx so far
[09:59] <NetJunky> on VirtualBox on Windows?
[09:59] <Glitchd> hello all
[09:59] <Glitchd> hoping someone can help me possibly
[09:59] <dominic_> what about it NetJunky?
[10:00] <Glitchd> i have a server running ubuntu with the lxde desktop, i believe.
[10:00] <Ali> anyone having experience with csync2?
[10:00] <Glitchd> i can access the terminal thru putty on my windows machine, but im trying to setup x11 forwarding so i can see the desktop.
[10:01] <Glitchd> i have already read a guide on what to change in the config files so that it forwards x11, however, the guide did not explaine how to connect to it from my windows machine.
[10:01] <NetJunky> @dominic_: I have ran one of VMs into a grave, so I've started from scratch. Installed Latest Ubuntu Server on Oracle VirtualBox. Now I need to set static ip, but I don't remember what addresses go where in "/etc/network/interface"
[10:03] <NetJunky> @dominic_: I looked, that by default VM is created with NAT. Also I looked up what networking settings VirtualBox has, but I just don't remember what goes where in "/etc/network/interface"
[10:04] <Glitchd> NetJunky, cant you just do it from the gui?
[10:04] <Glitchd> NetJunky, instead of the command line?
[10:04] <Glitchd> NetJunky, would make it much easier.
[10:04] <NetJunky> @Glitchd: Ubuntu Server doesn't have one.
[10:04] <mat619> anayone else familiar with ecryptfs?
[10:05] <Glitchd> NetJunky, oh duh...i have a server running ubuntu but i installed a gui.
[10:05] <Glitchd> NetJunky, whoops...sry
[10:05] <Glitchd> im trying to figure out how to access my desktop gui from my windows laptop
[10:05] <Glitchd> *my server desktop gui
[10:07] <Glitchd> NetJunky,  maybe this will help you...http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[10:07] <Glitchd> NetJunky,  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[10:07] <srhb> Glitchd: If you insist on having a GUI on your server, I think one of the nicer methods is FreeNX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[10:07] <Glitchd> NetJunky, also this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s76lcQEbVg
[10:08] <srhb> If it still works, at least.
[10:08] <Glitchd> srhb, thx, i will look into it
[10:09] <Glitchd> does anybody know how to access a linux desktop from windows over ssh or something similiar?
[10:09] <srhb> Glitchd: Sure, putty and the windows ming server
[10:09] <srhb> Xming*
[10:10] <Glitchd> srhb, i have no idea what "windows xming" is..
[10:10] <srhb> Glitchd: Xming is an X server for Windows.
[10:10] <srhb> Glitchd: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/
[10:10] <Glitchd> srhb, ok thx, im looking at it now.
[10:10] <cub> linux doesnt work
[10:10] <cub> :\
[10:11] <Glitchd> cub, what do u mean?
[10:11] <srhb> Glitchd: There are many guides out there on setting it up with putty.
[10:11] <cub> well
[10:11] <cub> i started this thing o here
[10:11] <cub> system testing
[10:11] <cub> it asked for a password.. i clicked cancel
[10:11] <cub> now its stuck saying "gathering system information"
[10:11] <Glitchd> srhb, ok, i already have ssh setup and im connected to the machine right now thru ssh
[10:11] <cub> it's been doing that 15 minutes now
[10:12] <Glitchd> cub, what version of linux?
[10:13] <Glitchd> cub, ???
[10:13] <cub> idk
[10:13] <cub> how do i check
[10:14] <Glitchd> srhb, do i need  to install xming on the server also, or only in windows?
[10:14] <llutz> Glitchd: on windows only
[10:14] <Glitchd> cub, well do u have the cd you installed it from?
[10:14] <Glitchd> llutz, ok thx
[10:15] <cub> no
[10:15] <cub> its ubuntu
[10:15] <Glitchd> cub do u know what version of ubuntu?
[10:16] <Glitchd> well anyways, try pressing these keys altogether, "crtl+alt+backspace"
[10:16] <Glitchd> cub, ^^^^^
[10:16] <Glitchd> cub, well anyways, try pressing these keys altogether, "crtl+alt+backspace"
[10:19] <arand> That normally doesn't work by default anymore... alt-sysreq-k might though
[10:19] <Glitchd> arand, very true, guess it slipped my mind
[10:21] <computer> how come ubuntu studio doesnt come with office program?
[10:22] <computer> why?
[10:22] <ikonia> computer: because it's a music recording distro
[10:22] <ikonia> not an office distro
[10:22] <Glitchd> lol
[10:22] <computer> that sucks
[10:22] <srhb> computer: Besides, all versions of Ubuntu come with a package manager that allows you to install anything from the repositories very easily.
[10:22] <ikonia> not really
[10:22] <computer> i know
[10:23] <ikonia> computer: you can install office application if you want
[10:23] <ikonia> computer: then use ubuntu if you want an office enviornment by default
[10:23] <srhb> Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad. :P
[10:23] <Glitchd> lolololol
[10:23] <ikonia> computer: ubuntustudio's function is music productoin, so it doesn't include other functions by default
[10:23] <ikonia> Glitchd: please stop
[10:23] <sayalifossist> i wish to install microsoft fonts like times nuew roman, is it possible on Ubuntu?
[10:23] <umer> guys i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 and my wireless driver isnt working.i have installed the propritery driver that ubuntu has using the additional driver but nothing..can anyone help?
[10:23] <Glitchd> ikonia, it was funny, chill out.
[10:24] <ikonia> Glitchd: random "lol" stuff isn't needed please.
[10:24] <srhb> sayalifossist: Search for ttf-mscorefonts in the package manager.
[10:24] <Glitchd> ikonia, im not doing anything wrong by laughing at a comment. if i start filling the page with that nonsense, please say something. otherwise, relax buddy.
[10:24] <sayalifossist> srhb: can I install it from Ubuntu software center?
[10:24] <srhb> sayalifossist: Yes.
[10:25] <ikonia> Glitchd: randomm "lol" and "lolololool" comments don't need, you don't need to type that you are laughing please.
[10:25] <umer> can anyone help me with my problem>?
[10:25] <srhb> umer: What card is it, and what seems to be the problem?
[10:26] <ikonia> umer: what network card is it ?
[10:26] <Glitchd> ikonia, good lord, i wont type it again. but honestly, its not that serious that you need to repremand me for it. it was harmless.
[10:26] <ikonia> Glitchd: thank you
[10:26] <Glitchd> ikonia, sure, np
[10:26] <umer> its a broadcom wireless .....Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[10:27] <srhb> umer: And what is the problem? Bad connection, no connection, can't see the card in the network manager?
[10:27] <srhb> !broadcom | umer
[10:27] <srhb> Have you seen that link?
[10:28] <umer> it wont turn on,i have turned on the propritery driver in the additional driver but still nothing, in 12.04 it used to work when i turned on the driver from additional drivers
[10:28] <srhb> umer: I don't think you should use the proprietary driver for that card
[10:29] <ikonia> why ?
[10:29] <ikonia> the bcm is a propritary driver
[10:29] <umer> srhb, it used to work fine with 12.04 LTS...but its not working with 12.10
[10:30] <ikonia> does the b43 driver support that card ?
[10:30] <srhb> Yes.
[10:30] <ikonia> ok, so swapping to that should be fine then, good call
[10:30] <umer> srhb, ikonia if i do lsmod it doesnt show any B34 module loaded.....yes because i got it to work with fedore and it was using B34
[10:30] <srhb> umer: Did you follow the guide on the wiki that I linked you? Try the instructions for the b43 driver.
[10:31] <ikonia> umer: try srhb suggestion, the b43 driver is supposed to support it
[10:31] <fedor> hi to everyone, could anyone tell me, if I can make the system not to spy on the actions performed on certain folders and files in those folders, I mean nobody would be able to see if I worked with the given folder.
[10:31] <ikonia> fedor: sorry what "the system spy on ?" ?
[10:31] <ikonia> fedor: what are you actually trying to do ?
[10:31] <srhb> fedor: In general, if you do not give anyone else permission, only an administrator (ie someone with sudo access) will be able to see the files in a given folder.
[10:32] <srhb> fedor: Hiding your processes is much more difficult.
[10:32] <fedor> well not exactly spy, I mean that in the list of recent documents and folders one cannot see if the given folder was manipulated with
[10:32] <ikonia> fedor: recent documents ?
[10:32] <ikonia> fedor: what distro are you using ?
[10:33] <fedor> I am using Ubuntu12.10 and yes, from the list of recent documents
[10:33] <umer> i installed the drivers using synaptic,i installed firmware-B43-installer and also the firmware-B43-lpphy-installar but still nothing
[10:33] <totem> fedor, try ubuntu tweak
[10:34] <umer> srhb, ikonia i installed the drivers using synaptic,i installed firmware-B43-installer and also the firmware-B43-lpphy-installar but still nothing
[10:34] <Glitchd> umer, u may want to try restarting..
[10:34] <srhb> fedor: In the Privacy setting you can disable recording of certain actions
[10:34] <umer> srhb, ikonia but i didnt installed then together...
[10:34] <srhb> fedor: For instance, you can Zeitgeist to not record actions in some folders.
[10:34] <umer> Glitchd, i did tried that
[10:35] <fedor> srhb: I remember that somewhere I saw that, but do not remember where, maybe that is the answer I am looking for, thanx
[10:35] <Glitchd> is it a usb wifi stick?
[10:35] <srhb> fedor: However, if you are afraid of other nonprivileged users, as long as the zeitgeist database is only readable by your users, they should be able to see nothing
[10:35] <srhb> fedor: press super and write privacy, should be first setting.
[10:35] <Glitchd> umer, is it a usb wifi stick?
[10:36] <umer> Glitchd, no its a build-in card.....its works fine with the older ubuntu...the 11 series and also with 12.04
[10:36] <srhb> umer: You should remove any conflicting packages, actually all of them, and start over.
[10:36] <srhb> umer: Then you should read the section about switching drivers.
[10:36] <Glitchd> umer, ok, type iwconfig in the termial see if wlan0 is there
[10:36] <umer> srhb, when i do lsmod...it doesnt show any B43 module...
[10:36] <srhb> umer: Have you tried loading the b43 one then?
[10:37] <srhb> umer: ie. sudo modprobe b43
[10:37] <umer> Glitchd, no it doesnt show any wlan0
[10:37] <Glitchd> umer, do u know if the machine is even recognizing the card?
[10:37] <Glitchd> umer,  what does it show with that command?
[10:37] <srhb> Glitchd: Obviously it isn't since the module is not loaded.
[10:37] <fedor> srhb: thanx for the help, that was exactly what I was looking for.
[10:37] <srhb> fedor: Welcome.
[10:38] <umer> eht0 and lo0 with no wireless extension stated infront of both
[10:38] <umer> srhb, let me try loading the module
[10:38] <fedor>  I really appreciate what you are doing here, guys. I am from Russia and here you cannot find someone who may help the way you can.
[10:38] <Transhumanist> =)
[10:38] <srhb> fedor: :) Procrastination on a high level.
[10:38] <umer> srhb, thank u so much....that was the problem
[10:38] <umer> its started to work now
[10:38] <Transhumanist> Linux and FOSS ftw.
[10:39] <srhb> umer: Great. :) Remember it probably won't load on startup unless you set that up, and you should still remove the other packages.
[10:39] <umer> srhb, which one should i remove ?
[10:39] <Glitchd> srhb, well it could recognize the card and still not connect to wifi and thats what i was trying to find out.
[10:39] <srhb> Glitchd: We already established that no kernel module was loaded, so no. :)
[10:40] <umer> Glitchd, let me connect with my wifi and get  back to u guys
[10:40] <srhb> umer: lpphy
[10:40] <srhb> umer: And the legacy one, and the wl, if you had that installed as well
[10:40] <killer> i m goin to build a certain app for xubuntu 12.04 ,it uses gtk 2.24.10 .....how do i install gtk 2 libs
[10:40] <Glitchd> srhb, mmk
[10:40] <srhb> killer: The package is libgtk2.0-dev I believe
[10:42] <srhb> killer: In general, when you need development libraries, "apt-cache search libYourLibrary | less" is a good start.
[10:47] <iceroot> i know its offtopic but its so awesome!!! http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/steam.png
[10:47] <umer> srhb, thank u so much...loading the module worked....
[10:47] <umer> Glitchd, yes it working fine now
[10:48] <Glitchd> umer, good to hear
[10:48] <srhb> umer: :) Great, glad to be of help.
[10:48] <srhb> iceroot: It's not off-topic. Has the open beta started yet?
[10:49] <iceroot> srhb: no
[10:49] <srhb> Darn it. I can't wait to be let in.
[10:49] <umer> srhb, Glitchd ikonia thank you all three
[10:49] <iceroot> srhb: but it should this week
[10:49] <umer> srhb, btw how do i get ubuntu to load the mod automatically at start
[10:49] <srhb> Yes, so I heard. I just have this nasty feeling I'll miss it and they'll close it before I get in. :P
[10:50] <rbansal1> Hi All
[10:50] <srhb> umer: Add it to /etc/modules
[10:50] <rbansal1> Is there a way to inject a new SKB from a POSTROUTING hook.
[10:51] <umer> srhb, ok let me try it
[10:51] <rbansal1> Any clue will be appreciated.
[10:53] <iceroot> srhb: !!!
[10:53] <iceroot> srhb: steam steam://store/  but that in the shell to skip the beta-test
[10:53] <iceroot> put
[10:53] <srhb> iceroot: Hm, but I don't have steam.
[10:54] <JBzh> Hi
[10:54] <iceroot> srhb: http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb
[10:54] <srhb> iceroot: Oooh, thanks!
[10:55] <iceroot> srhb: after that "sudo apt-get install -f" or install libcurl3-gnutls:i386  before
[10:55] <srhb> iceroot: I'll give that a go :)
[10:56] <sheperson> can someone please tell me what do remoteip and localip for pptpd are used for?
[10:56] <sheperson> and what should they be?
[10:57] <varikonniemi> i have currently a raid1 mirrored ext4 partition as data. IS there some way to convert it to encrypted FS ?
[10:58] <JBzh> I'm looking for official technical informations on how dash search informations are collected, sent (stored ?). I read a lot of articles about this controversial feature but I don't see a lot of technical informations.
[10:58] <ikonia> varikonniemi: treat it the same as a physical disk
[10:58] <varikonniemi> i know how to setup luks ext4 encryption on the raid device, just the problem is that i have nowhere to move the data for the setup
[10:58] <varikonniemi> i already ahd the problem once when i initially made it
[10:59] <varikonniemi> since ubuntu does not support making a degraded raid1 array
[10:59] <varikonniemi> and had to make it manually via mdadm
[10:59] <varikonniemi> this feels like a similar silly problem,
[11:00] <srhb> iceroot: It works. :P
[11:00] <iceroot> srhb: as i said :) So steam is working now without a beta-account :)
[11:01] <srhb> iceroot: Crazy stuff. Now for them to port Dota2 ^^
[11:01] <varikonniemi> too bad steam really does not seem to care truly about linu
[11:01] <iceroot> if anyone is interested in testing steam without a beta-account just do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1449757/
[11:01] <srhb> varikonniemi: Huh? How so?
[11:01] <varikonniemi> they do not adhere to the standards, clutter at least 2 files and 3 directories in ~
[11:01] <varikonniemi> etc
[11:02] <srhb> varikonniemi: Well, they're just getting started. I'm sure it's a very rough port, I have faith still.
[11:02] <varikonniemi> i hope so
[11:02] <varikonniemi> i have respect for valve
[11:02] <varikonniemi> but the current steam, it is awfull
[11:02] <varikonniemi> as a linux program
[11:02] <varikonniemi> on windows im sure it is fine, they have no standards
[11:03] <srhb> varikonniemi: That's not even true. :P
[11:03] <varikonniemi> ofc not :d
[11:03] <srhb> varikonniemi: seems that it's using ~/.local/share here
[11:03] <dr_willis> great thing about standards.. soo many to choose from....
[11:04] <varikonniemi> dr_willis, usually there are only one relevant open cross platform standard
[11:04] <varikonniemi> so the choice is usually obvious
[11:04] <varikonniemi> if you are not a ms/mac fanboi
[11:05] <dr_willis> vague ramblings is vague...
[11:06] <varikonniemi> yes, sdemonstrate where you have many competing cross platform open standards at war?
[11:06] <iceroot> but strange is that steam is telling me i dont have flash installed
[11:06] <jussi> varikonniemi: this discussion belongs in #ubuntu-discuss really
[11:06] <jussi> as this is a pure support channel
[11:06] <varikonniemi> yeah
[11:06] <varikonniemi> you are right
[11:06] <dr_willis> iceroot:  i dont recall seeing that issue.
[11:07] <iceroot> dr_willis: the issue is using the shop-libary to buy a game
[11:07] <iceroot> dr_willis: which needs flash to click on buy
[11:07] <iceroot> maybe its the flash amd64 vs steam 32bit issue
[11:07] <dr_willis> iceroot:  i tend to buy things from the web site. or my phone.  ill check the client out this weekend
[11:08] <dr_willis> so its out of beta now.
[11:08] <iceroot> dr_willis: i will use the webshop now to buy team fortress 2 (to add it to my libary) and then the gaming plattform GNU/Linux will start :)
[11:08] <iceroot> dr_willis: no
[11:08] <iceroot> dr_willis: still beta but you can use it without a beta-account
[11:08] <dr_willis> my linux install is on a small ssd. so i havent used steam to fill it up yet.
[11:09] <MCtrlSys> Ohayou Gozaimasu
[11:09] <ikonia> MCtrlSys: ?
[11:09] <MCtrlSys> Its good morning in Japanese, sorry, sounded good when I said it out loud.
[11:12] <MCtrlSys> I was just hopping around IRC, I should have known that the majority of people in here would be *nix. Been a while since I was on. Spent a great deal of time in private Forumnet rooms and forgot about the ol' IRCII
[11:13] <dr_willis> irc the original MMORPG
[11:13] <MCtrlSys> Yeah, so I hear.
[11:14] <MCtrlSys> I guess I am just getting old enough where I forget. Old enough to still be using ICB.
[11:15] <MCtrlSys> I will try to spare you my rants about CPM.
[11:15] <romeo0699> !list
[11:18] <dr_willis> i used cpm ;)  well.. i experimented with cpm.. never did any real work with it
[11:18] <MCtrlSys> So maybe while I am here I can ask you guys something. I have been hopping between Fedora, CentOS and Ubuntu. Reason being is that I don't like Gnome. Could someone recommend a windowing system that is more like xfce but less crashy.
[11:19] <MCtrlSys> Well unless you owned something like a KayPro 2 back in the early 80s I doubt you would have had much call to use CPM.
[11:21] <MCtrlSys> Oh I misread your statement. Sorry.
[11:23] <MCtrlSys> When I was using CPM it was on a Burroughs B5000 Mainframe back in 1978. I am just missing the old days of pure command line. What system were you on?
[11:25] <ikonia> MCtrlSys: #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for chatting
[11:25] <ikonia> MCtrlSys: or the #defocus channel
[11:25] <Lope> hey guys, check this out, gonna buy this. Should work, right? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-12-7mm-SATA-2nd-HDD-Hard-Driver-Caddy-for-DVD-CD-ROM-Optical-Drive-Bay-/300778845236 Install a SSD as your main drive and install a magnetic hard drive in the optical bay.
[11:26] <ikonia> Lope: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:26] <Lope> I'm sure a lot of people run ubuntu on laptops?
[11:26] <ikonia> and that device is nothing to do with the OS
[11:27] <Lope> allows you to run the OS faster :)
[11:27] <skp1> gtfo
[11:29] <ikonia> skp1: uacceptable, please don't tell users that
[11:29] <skp1> ok
[11:29] <ikonia> Lope: if it works or not is nothing to do with ubuntu really, you'll need to check it with your hardware vendor for compatability
[11:29] <Lope> ok
[11:33] <smosse75> hey gyes
[11:33] <smosse75> guys
[11:33] <smosse75> :)
[11:34] <valler> hello girlie
[11:35] <chris____> hi, i accidently deleted all my kernels on boot. rm *[23-34]* was intended to remove old kernels. how to reinstall? i tried apt-get install linux linux-image but get the following error: Setting up linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic (3.2.0-35.55) ...
[11:35] <chris____> Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-35-generic)
[11:36] <YOBA> Hi guys, in newest ubuntu fix vsync problem?
[11:36] <srhb> YOBA: We'll need way more details than that. What is the problem, what is your graphics hardware etc.
[11:37] <YOBA> srhb Amd x2 2800, geforce 220 gt
[11:37] <srhb> YOBA: And what's the problem?
[11:38] <YOBA> vsyn didnt work
[11:38] <YOBA> everywhere
[11:40] <chris____> how to fix kernel installation?
[11:40] <srhb> chris____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[11:41] <chris____> srhb, thx
[11:41] <YOBA> пидоры ибаные
[11:41] <YOBA> подасказать они не могути
[11:41] <srhb> !ru | YOBA
[11:41] <T3X> how do i install kernel headers 3.2.0-29-generic-pae for ubuntu server 12.04?
[11:43] <ouyes> T3X, search it in the package manager
[11:44] <ouyes> T3X, but why do you need that?
[11:44] <T3X> ouyes: VMware 9 needs it not me
[11:44] <zz123> Can anyone tell me how can i compile this for windows : http://code.google.com/p/debit/source/browse/
[11:44] <T3X> ouyes: i dont have gui package manager
[11:44] <Hawkerz> Hey -- how necessary is aptdaemon?  If I delete it, will things break?
[11:45] <srhb> T3X: you can search with apt-cache search partialName
[11:45] <chris____> srhb, my system is still running. apt-get install linux-image-generic or even  apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic results in an errorSetting up linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic (3.2.0-35.55) ...
[11:45] <chris____> Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-35-generic)
[11:45] <chris____> dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic (--configure):
[11:45] <chris____>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[11:45] <chris____> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[11:45] <chris____>  i also tried   dpkg --configure -a
[11:45] <FloodBot1> chris____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <srhb> chris____: It would be simpler to boot the liveCD and follow the instructions I linked you.
[11:47] <srhb> chris____: Otherwise, since your system is already broken, you could try purging it first
[11:48] <srhb> chris____: ie. apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic; apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic
[11:48] <srhb> chris____: As long as your system is running that _should_ work.
[11:50] <Hawkerz> can anyone offer insight into the necessity of aptdaemon?
[11:50] <nfl32> hi
[11:50] <srhb> Hawkerz: Synaptic believes it, and I think anything that interacts with the package system via D-bus does too
[11:51] <nfl32> i am having a wifi issue anyone care to help
[11:51] <srhb> Hawkerz: If you try to remove the package and look at what dependencies are broken, you can probably determine for yourself whether it is a good idea or not.
[11:51] <Hawkerz> srhb, meh, so I can't delete libgtk3 from my server without breaking the package management system?
[11:51] <srhb> Hawkerz: That does sound unreasonable.
[11:51] <YOBA>  /msg ubuntuhelp !nick
[11:51] <Hawkerz> more directly, I can't delete x11 even
[11:52] <srhb> !ask | nfl32
[11:52] <srhb> Hawkerz: I'd feel relatively safe giving it a go and see if anything important is broken. if so, reinstall it!
[11:53] <Hawkerz> i just dont' really understand why it's being so fussy about removing x11
[11:53] <nfl32> most all operating systems i have been using have been downloading at about 600kb/sec on my 15MB/sec connection lol. well i just put in Lubuntu today and the live cd got 10MB/sec so i installed it for sure.  Well after applying updates and all to Lubuntu it has now joined the group of most os's and back to 700kb/sec. I need to figure out what went wrong cause i fainlly go nearly what I am paying for! any help appreciated
[11:53] <srhb> Hawkerz: Presumably you have quite a lot of programs installed that depend on it.
[11:53] <Hawkerz> right, but aptdaemon is not one of them
[11:54] <srhb> Hawkerz: How do the two things relate then?
[11:54] <Hawkerz> and yet as a consequence of cleaning up leftover packages, apt wants to delete aptdaemon among others
[11:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:54] <ms__> eh oh; what does mean a "tier software"?
[11:54] <srhb> Hawkerz: So you deleted X11, and things were removed as a consequence, and now nothing depends on aptdaemon, so it suggest that it is removed as well?
[11:55] <chris____> srhb, thanks a lot. you saved me a lot of effort fiddling with hardware :). you made my day!
[11:55] <srhb> chris____: Great. :)
[11:56] <Hawkerz> srhb, I suppose so, thus my question about whether it is critical in some non-obvious way
[11:56] <srhb> Hawkerz: If it were critical and the dependencies do not show it, it is a clear bug.
[11:57] <srhb> Hawkerz: If we assume that the dependencies are not bugged, you're good to go. :-)
[11:57] <Hawkerz> well, I've been going a bit crazy with package removal today and it's been a few hours since I rebooted
[11:57] <Hawkerz> so I am really hoping I didn't break something important :p
[11:57] <srhb> Hawkerz: Sounds like my idea of living on the edge! ;)
[11:57] <srhb> Hawkerz: No really, I'd assume you are fine.
[11:58] <Hawkerz> I don't even get why x11 was installed to begin with...
[11:58] <srhb> Hawkerz: What distro are you running?
[11:58] <Hawkerz> 12.04 server
[11:58] <srhb> Hawkerz: It shouldn't be unless you picked something wrong in the installation, I believe.
[11:59] <Hawkerz> more likely I gave someone irresponsible access to install software
[11:59] <srhb> Hawkerz: Shame on you. :P
[12:00] <Hawkerz> ah well, what's life without risk
[12:01] <Hawkerz> srhb, have you ever used zentyal?
[12:01] <nfl32> i am just writing to a forum instead but could you guys please give me all the terminal codes for checking out wifi stats please?
[12:02] <Eagleman> If you use zentyal you will have a hard time mannualy editing configuration files
[12:02] <Hawkerz> oookay, that's all I need to hear, thanks Eagleman
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[12:03] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I would like to do the following thing: I'd like to boot my computer with the latest ubuntu cd and have it to install only the operating system without touching my /home. Currently I have an up-to-date ubuntu and / and /home live in the same partition. Is this possible?
[12:03] <nfl32> yeah and ifconfig for other and lsusb that is all i know
[12:04] <Hawkerz> Lorra, are you currently running an earlier ubuntu install?
[12:04] <ouyes> strange, I get no wired network, ubuntu 12.10 amd 64, do you know what is the problem?
[12:04] <ikonia> Lorra: no, not if /home is in the / partition
[12:04] <Lorra> Hawkerz, my /etc/lsb-release says I'm running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[12:04] <carluccio46> ciao
[12:05] <sexxxy> hey guys
[12:05] <carluccio46> !list
[12:05] <sexxxy> I want to import a mysqldump db
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> nfl32  try iwconfig
[12:05] <Hawkerz> why do you need to upgrade from the cd then, Lorra
[12:05] <sexxxy> without overwriting existing data
[12:05] <sexxxy> how do I do this?
[12:05] <Lorra> Hawkerz, I would like to do that to have a clean OS because sometimes I experience some silly behaviour I would like to avoid (e.g. crashing eclipse)
[12:06] <nfl32> i understand MonkeyDust just am writing a full detailed topic on forum with all info so i dont get asked missing stuff. i had wifi issue before but dont remember all the codes from terminal
[12:06] <nfl32> all i know is lsusb ifconfig and iwconfig
[12:06] <Hawkerz> Lorra, dont use eclipse from the source repo
[12:06] <Hawkerz> or whatever you call the ones ubuntu comes with
[12:06] <Hawkerz> install it from source in your home directory
[12:06] <Geroz> hi all ... pls how generate new vpn key for new client ? I run ./pkitool client1 and get :   Please edit the vars script to reflect your configuration,
[12:06] <Geroz>   then source it with "source ./vars".
[12:06] <Geroz>   Next, to start with a fresh PKI configuration and to delete any
[12:06] <Geroz>   previous certificates and keys, run "./clean-all".
[12:06] <Geroz>   Finally, you can run this tool (pkitool) to build certificates/keys. What is wrong ?
[12:07] <ikonia> why ?
[12:07] <ikonia> what's the issue with the one in the ubuntu repos ?
[12:07] <FloodBot1> Geroz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <Hawkerz> ikonia, I have always had serious bugs with it
[12:07] <Hawkerz> crashing, for instance
[12:07] <ikonia> Hawkerz: any bugs logged against it ?
[12:07] <wdp> wasn't there some parameter you could hand to grub, to still boot if there is a degraded raid array?
[12:07] <Lorra> Hawkerz, I have no intention to compile eclipse, sounds like incredibly long. Tried to use eclipse juno from the website, but it crashes from time to time as well
[12:07] <ikonia> or is this just your problem
[12:07] <nfl32> most all operating systems i have been using have been downloading at about 600kb/sec on my 15MB/sec connection lol. well i just put in Lubuntu today and the live cd got 10MB/sec so i installed it for sure.  Well after applying updates and all to Lubuntu it has now joined the group of most os's and back to 700kb/sec. I need to figure out what went wrong cause i fainlly go nearly what I am paying for! any help appreciated
[12:07] <Hawkerz> ikonia, I haven't experienced it in awhile as I stopped installing from the ubuntu repos
[12:08] <Hawkerz> also, I stopped using eclipse
[12:08] <Hawkerz> if the ubuntu repo is past helios it could be ok
[12:08] <sexxxy> anyone know?
[12:08] <Hawkerz> it may be that eclipse just doesn't play nice with openjdk
[12:08] <Hawkerz> all speculation
[12:08] <Lorra> Hawkerz, but do you know if it is possible to do what I said?
[12:08] <ikonia> sexxxy: how can you import without overwriting
[12:08] <Lorra> (in the beginning)
[12:08] <sexxxy> ikonia, yip
[12:09] <ikonia> sexxxy: the whole point of the export is to export the data
[12:09] <Hawkerz> Lorra, I just don't really understand how overwriting all of your system files is in any way productive
[12:09] <Geroz> hi all ...Can you help me with openVPN ? Im newbie in the way.
[12:09] <Hawkerz> I'm not sure it's possible to 'reinstall' from a cd and not touch your home directory -- you could try backing it up if you really want to do a clean install, and this time repartition your drive to keep /home separate.
[12:09] <sexxxy> ikonia, soo.. ? I'm only concerned about the import. If data is already there
[12:09] <Lorra> Hawkerz, because the overall o.s. is very complex and I have no idea what could be wrong at this stage
[12:09] <ikonia> Lorra: I've already told you, if /home is on / you can't do it
[12:09] <Lorra> ikonia, you sound a bit too "integralist"
[12:10] <ikonia> sexxxy: the export IS the data
[12:10] <ikonia> Lorra: what ?
[12:10] <Hawkerz> Lorra, so you are trying to upgrade, or are you trying to fix a broken system?
[12:10] <ikonia> Lorra: you've just asked if this is possible, I've told you "no" if your /home sits off the / partition
[12:10] <sexxxy> ikonia, it's exporting it on one db and importing it into another
[12:10] <sexxxy> different one
[12:11] <ikonia> sexxxy: right, so it will take the data with it
[12:11] <ikonia> sexxxy: the export is the data, so using it without the data is.....using nothing
[12:11] <Lorra> ikonia, but I'd like to hear more from Hawkerz, don't feel offended, sounds like he can tell something interesting to me
[12:11] <Hawkerz> unlikely
[12:11] <sexxxy> ikonia, there is already exisiting data that I don't want to replace
[12:11] <ikonia> sexxxy: then what you want to import
[12:11] <sexxxy> what does --ignore do?
[12:11] <Hawkerz> I still don't know what you're trying to do, and ikonia does know what (s)he is talking about
[12:11] <Lorra> Hawkerz, fix a broken system
[12:11] <sexxxy> ikonia, only data that is not there
[12:12] <ikonia> sexxxy: you have take an export of data....you want to import the data, but without touching the existing data ???
[12:12] <Hawkerz> Lorra, do you have an example of what kind of error you are getting?
[12:12] <ikonia> sexxxy: if the data is not there....why are you worried about the import, ? just import it
[12:12] <sexxxy> grr
[12:12] <Daee> sexxxy: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/905894/how-to-import-sql-dump-to-a-table-without-overwriting-duplicate-fields
[12:12] <sexxxy> I just want the difference to be imported
[12:13] <ikonia> sexxxy: when you take an export you can do a --no-data" export
[12:13] <ikonia> sexxxy: oof the differences
[12:13] <ikonia> you only want the differences
[12:13] <ikonia> sexxxy: why didn't you say that
[12:13] <mudhit> hello
[12:13] <mudhit> bonjor
[12:13] <Lorra> Hawkerz, I don't want to investigate much because it would take a very long time, I would just like to have a brand-new install, but without having to copy everything to another computer (possibly)
[12:13] <ikonia> sexxxy: no idea if/how you can do that
[12:13] <sexxxy> so do I use --replace on the import side to "replace" the data if it's there?
[12:14] <ikonia> Lorra: if you want to do a clean install, your /home directory should be moved off your root partition if you want to save the data
[12:14] <srhb> Lorra: Do you have any free space to make a backup partition for your /home ? Otherwise you could boot the liveCD and make it.
, give me output of "df | grep -E ^/dev"
[12:14] <Lorra> srhb, no
[12:14] <srhb> Lorra: Then do it from the LiveCD
[12:15] <ikonia> sexxxy: this look interesting, I've not tried it though http://www.mssqltips.com/sqlservertutorial/2208/mysql-to-sql-server-backup-and-restore-differences/
[12:15] <txthinking> hi i use rtorrent , so which is the download rate [Throttle] off/off KB] [Rate aaa/bbb KB] [Port:xxx]
[12:15] <txthinking> thx
[12:15] <txthinking> [Throttle] off/off KB] [Rate aaa/bbb KB] [Port:xxx]
[12:15] <srhb> txthinking: aaa
[12:15] <Lorra> srhb, do what?The backup partition? I have no free space
[12:15] <Lorra> (enough free space)
[12:15] <srhb> Lorra: The LiveCD can resize your current partitions if there's free space on them
[12:15] <txthinking> i can use  z,x,c to operate the download rate?
[12:15] <srhb> Lorra: Then, you can make a new partition in the just-freed space from the resizing, and move your /home there
[12:15] <txthinking> srhb: or Z,X,C ?
[12:15] <Hawkerz> Lorra, if you want to have a brand new install then do a fresh install, and next time partition your drive to keep /home separate -- in the meantime, back it up somewhere and copy it back after you install
[12:16] <Hawkerz> Lorra, you are going to spend longer reinstalling and reconfiguring than fixing, most likely, though
[12:16] <srhb> txthinking: Try either, which one affects the first number? Then you have your shortcut.
[12:17] <Lorra> then I'll come up with another discussion theme: I've got another computer, I'd like to copy the contents of my home partition onto that one but preserve permissions on them and maybe compress them a bit so it doesn't take forever. I can access this computer over the LAN.
[12:17] <Lorra> How can I do this backup?
[12:17] <txthinking> i want make the upload rate show a little, i press z,x,c , but the left rate be affect.
[12:17] <txthinking> why
[12:17] <srhb> Lorra: rsync is a good tool for the job, you could also tar everything first.
[12:18] <srhb> txthinking: Ypload is asd/ASD
[12:18] <Lorra> srhb, I have no space to fit the tarred directory
[12:18] <srhb> txthinking: The shortcuts are in the manual file, if you want to learn them.
[12:18] <Hawkerz> Lorra, then use rsync...
[12:18] <Hawkerz> and get a bigger drive
[12:18] <txthinking> srhb: thank you very much,
[12:19] <ikonia> Lorra: gzip the tar
[12:20] <xelan> What am I doing wrong?  bash -c "export foo=bar; echo \$foo"     results in   foo: Undefined variable.
[12:20] <Favorinfo> could somebody help me that how to install the gmerlin as I'm a fresh man for linux. It just offer the tar code for the public.
[12:21] <nfl32> most all operating systems i have been using have been downloading at about 600kb/sec on my 15MB/sec connection lol. well i just put in Lubuntu today and the live cd got 10MB/sec so i installed it for sure.  Well after applying updates and all to Lubuntu it has now joined the group of most os's and back to 700kb/sec. I need to figure out what went wrong cause i fainlly go nearly what I am paying for! any help appreciated
[12:21] <Lorra> ikonia, I don't really think it would fit on my computer before the transfer either, because I have 11GiB free and 47GiB used and I am pretty sure that most of the used space is my home folder
[12:21] <DJones> Favorinfo: gmerlin is in the default repositories, so it should be a case of "sudo apt-get install gmerlin"
[12:21] <mdjsjdqe_> good night
[12:22] <ikonia> Lorra: ok, so just scp the directory onto you other host
[12:22] <dr_willis> !info gmerlin
[12:22] <mdjsjdqe_> i come from china
[12:22] <Favorinfo> somebody said that use the command as ./configure  , make ,make install . but once I use these command , it doesn't wor
[12:22] <compdoc> good for you
[12:22] <srhb> Lorra: Except use rsync instead of scp whenever you cna.
[12:22] <mdjsjdqe_> any chinese
[12:22] <ikonia> why ?
[12:22] <ikonia> scp will work fine for him in a one time hit
[12:22] <dr_willis> Favorinfo:  you dont need to use the source. its in the default repos.
[12:22] <DJones> Favorinfo: If you install the repository version, you don't need to compile it yourself
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Favorinfo  gmerlin is in the repos, you can install it like any other program
[12:23] <dr_willis> !manual | Favorinfo
[12:23] <Lorra> nfl32, you should first look in your modem/router configuration page and find out what is the actual speed of your Internet connection, in fact many contracts that advertise a certain speed actually mean they can give you "up to" that speed
[12:23] <srhb> ikonia: Preserving ownership and permissions is often messy with scp, while rsync is built for the very purpose. Also, good support for resuming broken transfers etc.
[12:23] <xelan> nosklo: actually not even this works: bash -c "export foo=bar; echo \$foo"    I get foo: Undefined variable.
[12:23] <xelan> wrong chat...
[12:24] <nfl32> thanks Lorra  i actually spoke with the cable company and I am getting better than 15MB/sec they said from their end everything is running fine
[12:24] <mdjsjdqe_> i want to install linux mint
[12:24] <Favorinfo> but I don't use Ubuntu now, I just want to know how to compile it .
[12:24] <DJones> !mint | mdjsjdqe_
[12:24] <Lorra> ikonia, srhb does rsync make sure your files have been copied properly also (i.e. md5 checksum)
[12:24] <dr_willis> mdjsjdqe_:  mint has its own support channels. mint is not ubuntu
[12:25] <dr_willis> !compile > Favorinfo
[12:25] <ikonia> Lorra: rsync does yes
[12:25] <mdjsjdqe_> but i have been used ubuntu 12.04
[12:25] <ikonia> scp has checkuming on file transfers but it doesn't do resume
[12:25] <Hawkerz> srhb, my server successfully rebooted :)
[12:25] <srhb> Hawkerz: Great :)
[12:25] <mdjsjdqe_> i want both of them
[12:25] <dr_willis> mdjsjdqe_:  i wouldent bother.
[12:25] <srhb> Lorra: Like ikonia said, scp will work too, but if you're transferring a lot, I'm sure you will appreciate being able to resume the transfer safely.
[12:26] <nfl32> anyone know more codes for wifi info and/or for other info needed to figure out a wifi problem to add to my forum topic? all i know if ifconfig iwconfig lsusb
[12:26] <dr_willis> mdjsjdqe_:  grub should be able to auto set up dual booting both
[12:26] <srhb> Lorra: It is a matter of personal preference though, I've gotten used to use rsync always since it does the same things, only better.
[12:26] <dr_willis> nfl32 clarify what you mean
[12:26] <Lorra> srhb, does that mean I can Ctrl+C the rsync process when I would eventually like to pause it
[12:26] <nfl32> anyone know more codes for wifi info and/or for other info needed to figure out a wifi problem to add to my forum topic? all i know if ifconfig iwconfig lsusb
[12:27] <mdjsjdqe_> maybe i will try
[12:27] <srhb> Lorra: yes, that should be possible.
[12:27] <nfl32> I am posting on a forum dr_willis
[12:27] <nfl32> just trying to add most info i can
[12:27] <srhb> Lorra: Given the right options, of course.
[12:27] <nfl32> about my wifi prob
[12:27] <srhb> Lorra: In this case, --partial
[12:27] <nfl32> i been in here awhile and no one knows
[12:27] <nfl32> so postin to a forum
[12:27] <Lorra> nfl32, you can run the command route -N in a terminal and look for the line with UG in the flags columns
[12:28] <dr_willis> nfl32:  no need to hit enter every 3 words...
[12:28] <Lorra> the "Gateway" field of that line should report your router address
[12:28] <nfl32> what is the rest of the code for lshw for network?
[12:28] <Lorra> then you can type this address in the address bar of your browser and hit enter
[12:28] <Hawkerz> nfl32, link me to the forum you're posting on then
[12:28] <nfl32> i will hawkerz just trying to complete it
[12:28] <nfl32> thanks
[12:29] <Lorra> nfl32, try that and see if you see the status page of your modem
[12:29] <Hawkerz> hilight me when you do, if you want help
[12:29] <nfl32> that is what i am askin for from all you guys is codes to put in terminal to copy and paste output
[12:29] <Lorra> nfl32, under mine I can see the actual speed of my line
[12:30] <nfl32> i have checked everything on my router page Lorra and unfortunately it is a router that is autoset i really can not change anything on it. it sucks
[12:30] <nfl32> it is hard programed
[12:30] <Lorra> nfl32, you don't need to change anything, you just need to read the speed of your line
[12:30] <al-maisan> Is there a shell command that opens the appropriate viewer depending on the type of file (e.g. jpeg or pdf)?
[12:30] <nfl32> i cant even change passphrase
[12:30] <Hawkerz> nfl32, until I know the nature and details of your problem, I can't help you -- so far all I know is you have wifi troubles
[12:30] <Favorinfo> thank you , ubottu . Maybe I'll finish my compiling with that ware.
[12:30] <nfl32> ok i will see if it shows
[12:31] <dr_willis> al-maisan:  theres one  that used the mime-types i belive.    xdg-open  perhaps?
[12:31] <nfl32> sorry Hawkerz  i been in here awhile. i will give link real soon and man is it detailed.
[12:31] <Hawkerz> great
[12:31] <Favorinfo> I really want to know if there are any Chinese.....
[12:31] <dr_willis> !find xdg-open
[12:32] <Lorra> nfl32, you're on wifi?? That's another story then! You should try to see which speed you get when you're plugged with a network cable then. If you use wifi you introduce another whole class of possible problem sources.
[12:32]  * al-maisan tries xdg-open
[12:32] <Hawkerz> Lorra, does his problem have anything to do with speed?
[12:32] <Lorra> Hawkerz, he/she said so, no?
[12:32] <dr_willis> al-maisan:  xdg-open --help
[12:33] <nfl32> sorry lorra like Hawkerz was sayin. i haven't said much in detailed or this whole irc chat would be filled with me basically lol. i am about to post forum topic on ubuntuforums in about 5 minutes
[12:33] <nfl32> i am goin idle to work on it and be right back
[12:33] <nfl32> appreciate the effort
[12:33] <nfl32> brb
[12:33] <al-maisan> dr_willis: thank you very much indeed! xdg-open works nicely :-)
[12:33] <Lorra> srhb, Hawkerz, ikonia does rsync preserve permissions?
[12:33] <Hawkerz> if you use the preserve permissions flag
[12:35] <srhb> Lorra: You probably want the --archive option, be sure to check the manual to see what it includes. Plus the partial and progress options, that are combined in -P
[12:38] <srhb> Lorra: The only thing that cannot (easily) be preserved is the file owner. But I assume that's you in any case, so you can easily recursively fix that afterwards.
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> Lorra  http://linux.die.net/man/1/rsync
[12:41] <Hawkerz> are there any decent web based admin interfaces for ubuntu these days?
[12:42] <fedor> I have another question, How can I set up GDdrive account in Nautilus as a folder. I was trying this Insynk but the its installation file turned out to be , I am quoting, "of bad quality"
[12:42] <nfl32> alright i got it posted guys grabbin the link
[12:42] <nfl32> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12412093#post12412093
[12:43] <Pregunton> hi,do u know how can I use the command grub-reboot if the grub is installed on a system different to the being used remotely?, how to predefine the boot if I cant run update-grub?
[12:43] <xrfang> hi, how can I find the gnome version of my ubuntu 12.10?
[12:44] <srhb> xrfang: Gnome what? Shell?
[12:44] <xrfang> srhb, not the shell just the gnome component. I try to get some theme on gnome-look, it listed 3.4 and 3.6 I don't know which is the right one
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> xrfang  isn system monitor
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> xrfang: apt-cache policy gnome-session
[12:45] <xrfang> thanks!
[12:46] <nashant> Hi guys. Is 1.5MB/s normal for sftp over 100Mbps sftp?
[12:48] <lubuntu_> sorry im back
[12:49] <lubuntu_> this is nfl32 it wont let me change my name for some reason
[12:49] <srhb> nashant: It's a bit slower than I would expect, but not by much. Consider that the max transfer rate is 12.5MB/s . Then there's the encryption data and time overhead.
[12:49] <dr_willis>  /nick pick-a-new-nick
[12:50] <nfl3285> ok
[12:50] <TheLordOfTime> nashant, that'd be normal, yes-ish.  But 100Mbps, is that really your upload speeds from your server?
[12:51] <TheLordOfTime> (usually see 100Mbps download speeds, not upload)
[12:51] <nashant> TheLordOfTime: the NIC on my laptop is only 100BASE
[12:52] <vmassuchetto> I received a PDF document saved with Foxit Reader full of annotations. Is there a reader in Linux that I can properly view them?
[12:52] <nashant> Ah, get what you mean. It's on my LAN. Switched to FTP
[12:53] <dr_willis> vmassuchetto:  adobe has their acrobat for linux, foxit used to have a linux version.
[12:53] <mdjsjdqe> ENEN
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> !pdf | vmassuchetto -- inkscape also opens pdf
[13:04] <Hawkerz> nfl3285, go read your thread
[13:04] <nfl3285> k
[13:05] <ouyes> how can I get my wired network working
[13:06] <dr_willis> ita a rare wired nic that dosent just work...
[13:06] <dr_willis> ouyes:  give us more details.
[13:06] <nfl3285> Hawkerz, I already posted that info and reading that thread now
[13:06] <nfl3285> thanks
[13:07] <J22> dr_willis, nice to see U here again, it gives me strange feeling of confidence
[13:07] <J22> :D
[13:09] <J22> dr_willis, but mostly I see it here pretty calm - maybe I m here in wrong time or the users have just gone deaf
[13:09] <dr_willis> im on dayshift this week. :)  in classes. and hanging on irc.  normally im sleeping this time of day.
[13:10] <dr_willis> 8am in the usa here. its early.
[13:10] <Evil_Eric> could you speak up i cant hear you
[13:11] <J22> dr_willis, it s 2PM here in EU
[13:11] <Evil_Eric> morning dr_willis
[13:11] <Evil_Eric> h j22
[13:11] <J22> :)
[13:12] <nfl3285> Hawkerz, appreciate the help, I gotta run kid to school.  I will read your post if you post more or anyone else in here does.  Just wonderin if this is probably the actual fix for my hardware and all cause it does sound good just would hate to screw it up worse
[13:12] <Hawkerz> yeah it kind of seems like you don't have the right kernel module
[13:13] <Hawkerz> same problem, likely the same solution
[13:13] <nfl3285> ok great yeah i am just not spec minded lol
[13:13] <nfl3285> if you dont mind just post that in case someone else has the same issue and again thanks for your help i will post back to you once and if fixed
[13:13] <nfl3285> i will prob get to it in about an hour
[13:15] <nfl3285> so Hawkerz  can that actuall happen much in upgrading? cause i mean could it do it again. cause it was workin fine at first
[13:16] <Hawkerz> hard to say for sure without knowing what firmware you had
[13:16] <Hawkerz> how did you install the current driver?
[13:16] <nfl3285> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then i also ran the gui of lubuntu's for more software upgrades that apt-get didnt catch somehow
[13:18] <nfl3285> alright Hawkerz i got to take kid to school like i said i will get back to ya on forums and might idle in here
[13:18] <nfl3285> thanks man. later for now
[13:21] <strempo> hi
[13:21] <strempo> how can i create bootable iso for lubuntu?
[13:21] <strempo> i've puppy linux
[13:23] <dr_willis> dd the iso to flash you mean? strempo
[13:24] <dr_willis> the iso files are bootable... ;-)
[13:24] <strempo> lubuntu
[13:25] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean...
[13:25] <strempo> i've downloaded lubu
[13:25] <strempo> now i want put it into usb
[13:26] <cfhowlett> strempo: startupdiskcreator will do that.
[13:26] <samijam> strempo, are you wanting to install from usb?
[13:26] <samijam> strempo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:27] <strempo> nono i want that my usb become like a cd for install lubu
[13:27] <samijam> strempo, yes please see the link I posted
[13:28] <blubee> hello guys I have a issue with some opengl code I am trying to run. It seems I need glx version 2.1 or greater, when I rung glxinfo it tells me I have version 1.4 installed. Is there a way to upgrade my glx version?
[13:29] <dr_willis> dd the iso to flash  strempo  will work
[13:30] <blubee> dr_willis is that message directed towards me?
[13:30] <blubee> sorry I don't quite understand what you mean if it is
[13:30] <dr_willis> for strempo .....
[13:31] <blubee> oh ok
[13:31] <samijam> it's very quiet here for 1681 users
[13:32] <blubee> looking at the output for glxinfo | more, i see that i have mesa installed which is version 1.4 but there is also intel open source which is version 2.1 but I dont know how to use the version 2.1
[13:32] <strempo> dr_willis, i've download already lubu.iso
[13:33] <strempo> but now how can i create usb bootable ?
[13:33] <dr_willis> strempo:  use the   dd command.......
[13:33] <samijam> strempo, are you currently running ubuntu? or windows? or mac?
[13:33] <dr_willis> to image it to the usb.
[13:33] <strempo> i'm using puppy
[13:33] <dr_willis> dd  will work on any linux distri
[13:34] <samijam> does the browser you're using in puppy allow to click on links and read the information?
[13:34] <TakeItEZ> strempo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:34] <samijam> strempo, sorry i mean the irc client
[13:35] <strempo> hanks guys
[13:35] <TakeItEZ> strempo: click it, read it
[13:35] <samijam> TakeItEZ, it's the same link i posted :)
[13:35] <dr_willis> dd if=thefile.iso of=/dev/sdXY   bs=2048
[13:35] <TakeItEZ> dr_willis: /dev/sdX  no Y at all
[13:36] <TakeItEZ> samijam: maybe he trust me more than you and will start to read it.
[13:37] <Zabrien> My Ubuntu 12.10 takes almost a minute to boot. Is that normal?
[13:37] <samijam> Zabrien, i think ubuntu gave up the quick boot idea a few releases back
[13:37] <TakeItEZ> Zabrien: how would we know? mine takes nearly 2 min and yes, it is normal (atom n280, slow hdd)
[13:37] <dr_willis> mine boots in like 10 sec. gotta love sdd drives
[13:38] <Zabrien> ahh, I guess a 5400 rpm hdd might be the reason
[13:43] <negluf> Hi @ll!! anyone can tell about audacity?
[13:43] <notwist> !ask | negluf
[13:43] <TakeItEZ> !info audacity | negluf: tell what?
[13:45] <cfhowlett> negluf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity_%28audio_editor%29
[13:45] <Hawkerz> nfl3285, when you return, please check back with me, you may have the necessary kernel mod anyway
[13:45] <LordFraternity> SAlut
[13:45] <negluf> I have problems whith latencia, I have been configurating, the audacity whith a cable and doit a tick track and its ok, but when I record the 3ª track the problems with latencia will come again.. :O|
[13:47] <negluf> cfhowlett: ty..
[13:47] <Guest44859> anyone knows how to change the permission of a home directory,previously i had it set at 700 even though i did a chmod -R 755 /home/user new files created under that directory is still having 700 permissions although old one has been changed to 755
[13:48] <dr_willis> new files follow the umask settings.
[13:48] <Guest44859> 755 or 700
[13:48] <dr_willis> so that makes  sence
[13:48] <Guest44859> i did chmod -R 755 it still showing 700 for new files created
[13:48] <dr_willis> !umask
[13:49] <sexxxy> can mysqlimport be used with the output from a mysqldump ?
[13:49] <notwist> Guest44859: chmod -R changes the permissions on EXISTING files recursively
[13:49] <dr_willis> thats how it works  Guest44859
[13:50] <TakeItEZ> Guest44859: your umask is set to 077 and you want it to be 022
[13:53] <sexxxy> anyone?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sexxxy: have you asked in #mysql as well?
[13:54] <bluenemo> hi guys, i used to use a notepad tool with three letters (apt package) but i cant remember the name M) any ideas?
[13:54] <Guest44859> sorry i still dont get it
[13:55] <Zabrien> Is there any way to enlarge the partition I have Ubuntu installed on without reformatting and reinstalling? (it is formatted as ext2)
[13:55] <Guest44859> how do i change new files for /home/user to 755
[13:56] <bluenemo> zim ;)
[13:57] <dr_willis> Guest44859:  set your umask setting....
[13:57] <dr_willis> thats how
[13:57] <Guest44859> is the command umask 022 /home/user?
[13:57] <dr_willis> man umask
[13:58] <rumpel> Guest, you mean 644, not 755 i guess
[13:58] <cool_boy> Hi there
[13:58] <TakeItEZ> Guest44859: if your files really have 700/755 you seem to have ACL active. umask 0022 would create files 644 (not 755)
[13:59] <jubei> anybody know how to troubleshoot dnsmasq not working as DHCP on 12.04 ?
[13:59] <jubei> it's up and runnign but it won't respond to DHCP requests for some reason (I've made sure network-manager's dnsmasq doesn't conflict by removing network manager alltogether)
[13:59] <cool_boy> I have got an CDMA net setter, but sometimes it works and some times shows that mobile network not enabled, Where can I enable mobile networks?
[13:59] <cool_boy> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <Eagleman> Does some one has a nice guide for qemu-kvm on how everything works in normal english?
[14:02] <RangerBob> I know there's an entry on the ubuntu wiki, whatcha need Eagleman?
[14:04] <Eagleman> How kvm/qemu/libvirt work with each other
[14:05] <Eagleman> i've read some things but its to technical, i am looking for something plain english
[14:05] <RangerBob> Think of libvirt as a management layer for qemu/kvm-based vm's.
[14:08] <dr_willis> need technical details in non technical terms...
[14:10] <sexxxy> anyone know why this does not work
[14:10] <sexxxy> mysqlimport -u root -p --ignore dbname < /path/to/dump.sql
[14:10] <sexxxy> just give me the -h
[14:11] <Pici> sexxxy: get rid of the <
[14:11] <sexxxy> does not work
[14:11] <sexxxy> tried that
[14:12] <somsip> sexxxy: just mysql, not mysqlimport? Though I'm not sure what --ignore does here
[14:13] <sexxxy> the --ignore is important
[14:15] <Guest44859> sorry i am very poor in my language skills
[14:15] <Guest44859> i tried umask 022 /home/user it doesnt work
[14:16] <somsip> sexxxy: IC - applies ON DUPLICATE IGNORE to all by the look of things
[14:17] <somsip> sexxxy: omit the indirection <. You're mixing mysql and mysqlimport syntax: http://drup.org/mysql-mysqlimport-examples
[14:17] <oskar-> Guest44859:  yes, it does not work. plain files are created without the execute bit, although it is not masked. why do you need permission 755 for plain files?
[14:17] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/44542/what-is-umask-and-how-does-it-work
[14:24] <jinks> m
[14:24] <sexxxy> poes
[14:25] <max3> i have 64gb cf card that i was using in rockbox ipod that shows 55gb/64gb full but i can't see any of the files?
[14:25] <max3> it mounts and everything but i can't see any of the music
[14:25] <dr_willis> l
[14:26] <dr_willis> !trash
[14:31] <matrixa1> Hello, how do I run the SSD TRIM command manually? I don't want to add discard to fstab
[14:33] <tarrabyte> hello
[14:33] <BrainPaid> matrixa1
[14:33] <dr_willis> hi
[14:33] <tarrabyte> finally someone said hello
[14:33] <BrainPaid> matrixa1: sudo appname
[14:33] <tarrabyte> i need a little help
[14:33] <dr_willis> jelllo
[14:34] <BrainPaid> tarrabyte dr_wills : hi
[14:34] <h00k> !ask | tarrabyte
[14:34] <tarrabyte> i have a busted 160HD im trying to fix, and i am running test disk.
[14:35] <tarrabyte> how do i unlock a file from root?
[14:35] <BrainPaid> unfortunatelly I cannot help u ..
[14:35] <h00k> tarrabyte: you're looking to change the owner? you
[14:35] <tarrabyte> http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/29984386 <--- heres the pic, i have uploaded it here
[14:35] <dr_willis> how is it locked?
[14:35] <tarrabyte> idk
[14:36] <tarrabyte> ill be honest im still pretty nooby to linux
[14:36] <dr_willis> we dont either. :0 the term locked is vague
[14:36] <dr_willis> !permissions | tarrabyte
[14:36] <tarrabyte> theres a lock on the file and it wont let me delete it
[14:37] <dr_willis> set the owner to be your user. most likely. or use root rights/sudo to do whateve you want to it
[14:37] <TakeItEZ> matrixa1: look at the forums, there is a thread about it and pointing to a 3rd party script "wiper-...something" to do this
[14:37] <alimj> #terrabyte: in shell type sudo rm filename
[14:37] <waterloo2005> When i compile kernel 3.0.8 , do i need to patch patch-3.0.8 ? What is the use of patch-3.0.8.bz2 in www.kernel.org ? Is there ubuntu patch for 3.0.8 kernel?
[14:37] <tarrabyte> can you explain it as dumb as possible to me
[14:37] <tarrabyte> ive been rolling around everywhere to figure this shit out :(
[14:37] <h00k> tarrabyte: please keep the language appropriate here, and that language wasn't
[14:38] <tarrabyte> sorry
[14:38] <tarrabyte> ok so, how do i change the permission status?
[14:38] <BrainPaid> ubottu: you are similar to Führer
[14:39] <alimj> #tarrabyte: sometimes Linux programs create files that can not be deleted using your account. You can always delete the file using root previllage
[14:39] <dr_willis> tarrabyte:  that wiki page explains it. use chown and chmod as needed  normally
[14:39] <tarrabyte> how do i do that?
[14:39] <tarrabyte> >.<
[14:39] <tarrabyte> i like need a MAJOR crash course >.<
[14:39] <dr_willis> sudo  chown username:username  file
[14:39] <alimj> I would recommend to search and learn these commands chown chmod sudo
[14:40] <matrixa1> TakeItEZ, found the wiper.sh script, but it's using the hdparm  --trim-sector-ranges command which is classified as "DANGEROUS" in the data sheet. I'm looking for alternatives. The forum info is scarce.
[14:40] <dr_willis> time to spend an hr reading some guides.. that will be fastee then expecting irc to tutor you
[14:40] <alimj> tarrabyte: It will be out of scope of an IRC channel to cover everything.
[14:40] <dr_willis> !permissions
[14:40] <tarrabyte> yeah considering that i see people keep joining and prolly jump in and ask random questions
[14:40] <dr_willis> that url would be a good pa`lace to start
[14:41] <BrainPaid> bot is terrible. It hasn't got a brain but it hitting we !
[14:41] <tarrabyte> yeah it's loading
[14:41] <TakeItEZ> matrixa1: trimming always includes deletion, so its always dangerous
[14:41] <dr_willis> it also depends on your skill set/what you know allready
[14:41] <tarrabyte> uuum
[14:42] <tarrabyte> this much i know: Sudo apt-get install/purge
[14:42] <tarrabyte> thats REALLY all i know :|
[14:42] <dr_willis> time to spend an hr or 2 with some bash tutorials then
[14:42] <tarrabyte> im not a major linux techy like you guys but yeah...
[14:42] <tarrabyte> would any one be willing to teach me a few things and help me out?
[14:43] <tarrabyte> teamviewer? skype? uum facebok? something?
[14:43] <BrainPaid> teamveawer is using wine
[14:43] <dr_willis> we can give specific answers.. but if its all greek to you... ;(
[14:44] <dr_willis> you may not understand the answer
[14:44] <tarrabyte> no its not that its greek
[14:44] <TakeItEZ> matrixa1: out of couriosity: why don't you use the "discard" option?
[14:44] <tarrabyte> its like, learning japanese to me
[14:44] <matrixa1> TakeItEZ, TakeItEZ, will resort to adding the discard command occasionally then, better be on the safe side
[14:44] <tarrabyte> im slowly getting it...
[14:44] <matrixa1> TakeItEZ, this is why http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/discard/ext4_batched_discard/ext4_discard.html
[14:45] <tarrabyte> i like to mess around with linux. its fun, that
[14:45] <tarrabyte> -that
[14:45] <tarrabyte> is it true that WOW was built in linux?
[14:46] <Daee> WoW has built in opengl support which makes it easier to run on linux
[14:46] <tarrabyte> oooooh
[14:46] <TakeItEZ> matrixa1: ah i see, thx
[14:47] <tarrabyte> isnt there something on linux that if 2 people have linux they can do a live chat or something and see each other sytem?
[14:47] <tarrabyte> system*
[14:48] <dr_willis> tarrabyte:  a dozen ways to do that
[14:48] <tarrabyte> :\
[14:48] <tarrabyte> can someone help me out then?
[14:48] <Pici> tarrabyte: we don't provide that type of support here.
[14:48] <dr_willis> with what exactly?
[14:48] <tarrabyte> >.<
[14:49] <matrixa1> TakeItEZ, which boils down to http://pastebin.com/XcaGxFdW I'm trying to squeeze out as much as possible from this Crucial V4, at the moment it flies with these settings
[14:49] <Pici> dr_willis: It sounds like tarrabyte has a harddrive with issues and can't recover the files in Linux.
[14:49] <tarrabyte> i have been retrieving data from my 160gb here using testdisk. when i did, i could goto the file and get what i wanted, copy it ad use it but not delete it. and i don't know how
[14:50] <Lorra> tarrabyte you can put up a vnc server, if you use tigervnc is very very easy, you install it and then you edit its configuration file
[14:50] <dr_willis> tarrabyte:  you were told how to do it earlier...  'sudo rm /path/to/the/file'
[14:50] <Pici> tarrabyte: perhaps the drive is mounted in read-only mode
[14:50] <tarrabyte> lorra: can you explain that a little dumbeR?
[14:51] <dr_willis> if its mounted read only, you dont delete it. :) unless you remount the drive
[14:51] <tarrabyte> pici: if that was the case, wouldn't that mean i couldn't move any files?
[14:51] <Pici> tarrabyte: I don't know, are you moving files on the same filesystem?
[14:51] <Lorra> tarrabyte, you open a terminal and you write "sudo synaptic" in it and hit enter
[14:52] <dr_willis> the mount command shows how thingss are mounted
[14:52] <Lorra> tarrabyte, then you enter your user password
[14:52] <ikonia> no
[14:52] <ikonia> not sudo synaptic
[14:52] <ikonia> "gksudo"
[14:52] <Lorra> tarrabyte, then in the top-right search box you type tigervnc
[14:52] <Lorra> ikonia, it works either way
[14:52] <tarrabyte> pici: i think i know what you are asking but not sure. the 160 gb is the transferer
[14:53] <ikonia> is synaptic even installed by default now ?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | Lorra
[14:53] <ikonia> Lorra: it messes up your X session files
[14:53] <ikonia> Lorra: no, it doesn't work either way
[14:53] <Lorra> ikonia, done a thousand times
[14:53] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, synaptic != default last i checked
[14:53] <ikonia> Lorra: done wrong a thousand times then
[14:53] <TheLordOfTime> Lorra, default clean installs of 12.10 and perhaps 12.04 don't include synaptix
[14:53] <dr_willis> using sudo for gui apps can cause issues
[14:53] <ikonia> I didn't think synaptic was installed by default any more
[14:53] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, it's not.
[14:54] <ikonia> good
[14:54] <ikonia> that makes sense then
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Lorra: you can damage the ownership of files in a users home, this will make sudo not work, s/he will then need to drop to root recovery mode and chown the file(s) back
[14:54] <tarrabyte> >He
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, but if you upgrade from $oldversion and the olderversion HAD synaptix installed, that still is installed post-upgrade
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, which is probably what Lorra did :P
[14:54] <ikonia> yes, I can see that working
[14:54] <tarrabyte> brb
[14:54] <tarrabyte> changing music
[14:55] <Lorra> TheLordOfTime, which files in your home directory would synaptic use?
[14:55] <Lorra> Or change ownership of
[14:55] <Lorra> ?
[14:55] <Lorra> ActionParsnip, pardon
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Lorra: its not just synaptic, its all GUI apps
[14:55]  * TheLordOfTime smiles and returns to his stabbing of various server packages.
[14:55] <strempo> hi
[14:56] <davelindberg> in ubuntu 12.10 ... anyone know how to install any calendar that connects to google calendar? i tried to install Evolution Calendar (not Calendar and Mail) using Ubuntu Software Center without success.
[14:56] <Lorra> ActionParsnip, OK, but in particular which files is synaptic using from your home directory?
[14:56] <ikonia> Lorra: read the link ubottu gave you
[14:56] <ikonia> it gives you some good examples
[14:56] <computer> need help setting up cube rotation with ubuntu studio 12.10
[14:56] <ikonia> isn't the cube dead with unity
[14:56] <dr_willis> cube should die
[14:56] <strempo> i can't install lubuntu, i've a sis 661mx
[14:56] <TakeItEZ> Lorra: find out: strace -e open -f synaptic 2>&1|grep home
[14:56] <tarrabyte> Now playing: Deadmau5 - Some Chords {4x4 =12}
[14:57] <ikonia> ?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Lorra: its not synaptic specifically, the files ~/.Xauthority and ohers will be owned root:root is you run GUI apps with sudo#
[14:57] <ikonia> tarrabyte: we don't need that plugin enabled in the channel please.
[14:57] <tarrabyte> it wasnt
[14:57] <ikonia> tarrabyte: ok, then we don't need to know what music you are playing
[14:57] <tarrabyte> i typed it out
[14:57] <TheLordOfTime> tarrabyte, it is: <tarrabyte> Now playing: Deadmau5 - Some Chords {4x4 =12}  <-- disable it.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Lorra: it will do the same with gedit or nautilus, its nothing specific to synaptic
[14:57] <tarrabyte> any ways
[14:57] <TheLordOfTime> tarrabyte, don't do that :P
[14:57] <bazhang> tarrabyte, so dont type it, its offtopic
[14:57] <tarrabyte> sure
[14:58] <Mongolski> hej
[14:58] <ikonia> thanks
[14:58] <tarrabyte> :|
[14:58] <tarrabyte> ok
[14:58] <tarrabyte> so
[14:58] <tarrabyte> can someone personally help me out or something? Cause i do better when im watching someone and taking noties
[14:58] <tarrabyte> notes*
[14:58] <ikonia> tarrabyte: what do you actually wnat ?
[14:58] <bazhang> ask the channel tarrabyte
[14:59] <ikonia> want
[14:59] <tarrabyte> been trying to figure out how to unlock these files and save them to the right folder. all i have figured out is how to send a file or 2 some where, and i think bc one is like 4gb its taking some time for it.
[15:00] <ikonia> tarrabyte: please tell me where one of the files is and it's name
[15:00] <ikonia> tarrabyte: or tell me what you hve done to copy the file
[15:00] <tarrabyte> brb
[15:00] <tarrabyte> oh here
[15:00] <TheLordOfTime> tarrabyte, and what errors if any you're getting.
[15:00] <tarrabyte> im not
[15:00] <tarrabyte> ill show you hang on
[15:00] <tarrabyte> https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/29984386#p29984990
[15:01] <tarrabyte> (yes what a terrible place)
[15:01] <TheLordOfTime> 4chan...
[15:01] <Pici> tarrabyte: please use a pastebin and not 4chan
[15:01] <TheLordOfTime> right not clicking that link.
[15:01] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | tarrabyte
[15:01] <tarrabyte> really???
[15:01] <tarrabyte> its /g/
[15:01] <Pici> tarrabyte: really.
[15:01] <Lorra> ActionParsnip, then I would like to understand why, if nobody has the kindness to explain it to me
[15:01] <tarrabyte> fine i have the pictures on my twitpic hang on
[15:02] <alimj> #tarrabyte: If you want to do this in graphic mode, try this command from shell: gksudo nautilus
[15:02] <ikonia> tarrabyte: the ownership is root
[15:02] <ikonia> tarrabyte: you basically need to change the ownership
[15:02] <ikonia> tarrabyte: it's that simple
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Lorra: sudo is only for command line commands like cp, apt-get etc. X apps have a different environment which needs catering for. Gksudo (and kdesu in kde) accommodate this and run the app correctly
[15:02] <alimj> After doing this, a nautilus file manager with root privilage will allow you to change privilages - again - gksudo nautilus
[15:03] <dr_willis> nautilus as root can be dangerous. use with care
[15:03] <ikonia> tarrabyte: what is your username on the commputer ?
[15:03] <alimj> I believe that the others should agree with me. Lets keep it short and easy.
[15:03] <tarrabyte> hero
[15:03] <ikonia> tarrabyte: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[15:03] <tarrabyte> uuum
[15:03] <thelionroars> what do I need to do to run a script on startup? Is it sufficient just to put it in /etc/init.d/ ?
[15:03] <tarrabyte> oh crap
[15:03] <dr_willis> sudo  chown username:username  file
[15:03] <tarrabyte> im on mint, i just realized this now for some reason
[15:03] <Touhou11> I find people who set permissions graphically often have a poor understanding. Best to read the man pages properly
[15:04] <ikonia> yeah, this isn't ubuntu
[15:04] <computer> where do i find Xfce 4 Settings Manager?
[15:04] <dr_willis> tarrabyte:  the above answer was given earlier
[15:04] <ikonia> yeah I bet you did
[15:04] <tarrabyte> i mean i knew i was its just well... Debian>mint>ubuntu???
[15:04] <ikonia> !mint | tarrabyte
[15:04] <tarrabyte> >_>
[15:04] <dr_willis> mint is not ubuntu. ;)
[15:04] <tarrabyte> i feel like a retard now :|
[15:05] <davelindberg> in ubuntu 12.10 ... anyone know how to install any calendar that connects to google calendar? i tried to install Evolution Calendar (not Calendar and Mail) using Ubuntu Software Center without success.
[15:05] <Lorra> ActionParsnip, this was interesting to find out, I have been using gdm in place of lightdm because I was unable to perform graphical login
[15:05] <dr_willis> davelindberg:  i belive the webupd8 sitr had a artical on an indicator applet for that
[15:05] <Touhou11> computer: Click the "Xubuntu" icon on the panel, and then there's "Settings" in the menu
[15:05] <strempo> dr_willis i want install lubu12.10, but my sis video 661 doesn't works and so at the beginnig the screen put on and off
[15:06] <Touhou11> davelindberg: You tried Thunderbird?
[15:06] <dr_willis> strempo:  sis is the WORST video card/makers  when it comes to linux support
[15:06] <alimj> davelindberg: Evolutions should be able to communicate with Gmail callendar using CalDAV
[15:06] <alimj> Thunderbird does not work
[15:06] <dr_willis> strempo:  never owned an sis. so all i can say is check askubuntu.com
[15:07] <davelindberg> thunberbird is mail app i need calendar... i guess i could add a thunderbird addon.
[15:08] <davelindberg> evolution calendar does not install using ubuntu software center.
[15:08] <alimj> davelindberg: Yes, thunderbird does not sync callendar by default
[15:08] <computer_> Touhou i cant seem to pass step 2 from http://www.ghacks.net/2010/07/11/run-compiz-with-xfce4/ im using ubuntu studio
[15:08] <alimj> davelindberg: Google servers suport CalDAV to sync callendar
[15:09] <davelindberg> this channel is useless.  please read my initial post.  bye
[15:09] <dr_willis> computer:  from that url - i would guess its made in 2010. and is 2+ years old. so may be very out of date
[15:10] <nfl32> sup Hawkerz you around?
[15:11] <vitimiti> o/
[15:15] <Hawkerz> nfl32, yes
[15:16] <kaan> hello, I search for a little help with console commands: everytime i type apt-get install... i forget the "sudo" in front. there is an option, that one can write it after a command, but I cant remember it. Does anyone know?
[15:16] <nfl32> hey man. i got a feelin i figured out the issue and its maybe not what i thought MAYBE
[15:16] <nfl32> only time will tell
[15:16] <kaan> like: apt-get install | sudo
[15:16] <nfl32> alright i pm you
[15:16] <kaan> but not with the pipe ( |  ) symbol
[15:17] <kaan> it was another
[15:17] <alericoveri> kaan: it is actually 'sudo apt-get install <package>'
[15:17] <alimj> kaan: use this command before apt-get :: sudo -i
[15:17] <kaan> alericoveri, yes I know
[15:17] <alimj> after (sudo -i) all commands will be in sudo mode
[15:18] <sgtjoykiller> or sudo -s
[15:19] <TakeItEZ> kaan: depending on your terminal-settings, pressing ctrl-a will bring your cursor at the beginning of the line and you can insert the missing sudo
[15:19] <railsraider> hi i have upstart script that i am trying to stop start from a script, if the process is not runnnig i get Stop unknown instance
[15:19] <kaan> thanks TakeItEZ you understand my problem :-)
[15:19] <gRAVIty1> can we use a microsoft wireless 3500 mouse on ubuntu 12.04? What could be the possible problems with it? http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wireless-Mobile-Mouse-3500/dp/B0035ERKYW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355930354&sr=8-1&keywords=microsoft+wireless+mouse+3500
[15:19] <railsraider> how can i stop it only if its running
[15:19] <lfaraone> Jordan_U: that fixed it! my hero.
[15:19] <railsraider> it breaks a script
[15:19] <dr_willis> bash has a history feature  to add  stuff to the start of an earlier line also
[15:20] <kaan> and it works indeed.
[15:20] <kaan> but TakeItEZ  do you know, how I can write it in different order, as I described? I know that it is possible
[15:21] <TakeItEZ> kaan: no idea
[15:21] <gRAVIty1> anybody who uses microsoft wireless mouse?
[15:21] <kaan> It's not so important, but it bugs me
[15:21]  * dr_willis wonders what colors where
[15:23] <Touhou11> gRAVIty1: I imagine so, it's been sold for several years
[15:24] <gRAVIty1> Touhou11: are there known cases of using it on ubuntu? I saw a review where someone used it on Nexus 7 using an OTG cable
[15:24] <gac> kaan: i'm pretty sure you're mistaken; it's not possible for the "end" of a command string to affect the beginning, because the beginning has already been processed
[15:24] <kaan> gac, I really knew some kind of command/symbol to do that
[15:25] <Darkstar1> Hi ppl. I need a way to delete files of a certain extension from my system. I figured this can be done through piping the output of locate to rm but not sure how
[15:25] <gac> kaan: well feel free to prove me wrong, but I'm 99.9% certain that you're mistaken :) the closest I can think of is the ctrl-A solution from above
[15:26] <gRAVIty1> Touhou11: just found that there are a few people using it
[15:26] <gRAVIty1> thanks
[15:26] <TakeItEZ> Darkstar1: find /path -type f -iname '*.extension' -delete
[15:26] <gac> Darkstar1: something like "find / -name *.extension -exec rm -f {} \;"
[15:26] <gac> although TakeItEZ did it better ;)
[15:26] <Darkstar1> thanks guys will try that
[15:27] <TakeItEZ> gac: but you added my missing \; :)
[15:28] <Vyom> Hi everyone. Ubuntu is nice. Just that it took me a while to figure out how to turn off two virtual keyboards in GNome shell :P Anyway, thanks Ubuntu team! :D
[15:29] <Darkstar1> find / -type f -iName '*._*' -delete  <== ?
[15:30] <Darkstar1> trying to delete all ._DS_Store from OSX exploded tars
[15:30] <kaan> gac, TakeItEZ I cant find the command... . But thanks for your help. One thing comes close to it, it's the !! command
[15:30] <Darkstar1> and all others preceeded with ._
[15:30] <TakeItEZ> Darkstar1: -iname
[15:30] <n3rV3> TakeItEZ, we dont need \; for -delete
[15:30] <n3rV3> imo
[15:31] <Darkstar1> TakeItEZ: Doesn't work
[15:32] <n3rV3> Darkstar1, add sudo before that, but please be carefull this will delete a lot of important files if you are not carefull
[15:33] <Darkstar1> n3rV3: Not really. Only the osx files are listed in the locate *_.* result
[15:33] <Touhou11> Vyom: Gnome Shell isn't written by Ubuntu, mostly by the Fedora/Red Hat developers
[15:34] <Jonne_> i think virtualbox-ose broke after the latest kernel update from proposed, can anyone else confirm this? i get a system hang after i try starting a vm
[15:34] <n3rV3> locate results are outdated run the find command without the -delete option
[15:34] <n3rV3> to view all files
[15:35] <Touhou11> Jonne_: Yes, Virtualbox is fucked on recent kernels, Arch Linux users have reported the same
[15:35] <Jonne_> dammit, right when i need it for photoshop
[15:35] <IdleOne> !language | Touhou11
[15:35] <Jonne_> went like 2 months without even needing it
[15:36] <TakeItEZ> Darkstar1: aren't those files named "*.DS_Store" without leading _
[15:36] <Jonne_> any workaround or whatever?
[15:36] <ripthejacker> i just upgraded to ubuntu 12.1 and now i cant use empathy
[15:36] <ripthejacker> plase help
[15:36] <Touhou11> Jonne_: Boot with an older kernel
[15:36] <Jonne_> guess i could downgrade it
[15:36] <Darkstar1> TakeItEZ: also generates a ._<filename>
[15:37] <TakeItEZ> Darkstar1: -iname '._*'
[15:37] <David--> can anyone tell me how to start ntp automatically on boot with 12.04 please?
[15:38] <Darkstar1> Yup all are mac generated returned by find
[15:40] <ripthejacker> im getting this error no reason specified error in empathy
[15:41] <iceroot> playing team fortress 2 on high on a intel vga without wine... a dream comes true. GNU/Linux is the future :)
[15:41] <Touhou11> iceroot: Is the beta publically released now?
[15:41] <David--> can anyone tell me how to start ntp automatically on boot with 12.04 please?
[15:41] <iceroot> Touhou11: there is a trick to skip the beta-check
[15:42] <dr_willis> David--:  you installed the ntpd service?
[15:42] <David--> i think it was the service
[15:42] <dr_willis> !info ntpd
[15:42] <David--> apt-get install ntp
[15:42] <dr_willis> it should start at bootup if its an installed service
[15:43] <David--> thanks pal
[15:43] <dr_willis> sudo service NAME status
[15:43] <iceroot> Touhou11: steam steam://store/   on the shell to skip the beta-check and you can play
[15:43] <ripthejacker> help please
[15:44] <ripthejacker> i cannot connect to any accoun t in empathy
[15:45] <Touhou11> ripthejacker: Do you get any sort of error message? Have you tried starting empathy from the terminal, error output there tends to be more verbose
[15:49] <kakashi1> hallo leute :)
[15:49] <linuxthefish> whats different between debian and ubuntu?
[15:50] <Septima> ubuntu is based on debian
[15:50] <iceroot> !debian | linuxthefish
[15:50] <linuxthefish> ty
[15:50] <kakashi1> ich habe gerade ubuntu frisch installiert, aber der startet nicht, da stehen zwei zeilen mit drm:intel_dsm_platfrom_mux_info ERROR MUX INFO call failed
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> linuxthefish  there are plenty review, here's one http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3890111/Debian-vs-Ubuntu-Contrasting-Philosophies.htm
[15:50] <TakeItEZ> !de
[15:50] <kakashi1> installiert habe ich die ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:51] <numberto> hi guys, can you please direct me to russian ubuntu
[15:51] <TakeItEZ> !ru | numberto
[15:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ru numberto
[15:51] <numberto> thanks
[15:51] <kakashi1> sorry, didnt know that this is the english one :D
[15:52] <johnson> gffghj
[15:52] <johnson> fkb\
[15:52] <johnson> xfgnf
[15:52] <Septima> noh
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> johnson  it works, you're in
[15:52] <johnson> hello
[15:54] <nicholas> can i find the source code of the settings panel somewhere?
[15:54] <nicholas> ubuntu settings
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> nicholas  you mean system setings?
[15:56] <nicholas> yes :)
[15:57] <nicholas> i want to change the info
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> nicholas  if you know the exact package name, type sudo apt-get source [package]
[15:58] <nicholas> okay, gotta go. coming back later...
[15:59] <ripthejacker> Touhou11,
[15:59] <ripthejacker> Touhou11, no other error
[15:59] <islandmonkey> Hi; urgent issue - the filtering program (DansGuardian) which is installed on my computer has erased an apt list file (gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_universe_i18n_Translation-en ) in /var/lib/apt/lists. Can anyone please help me restore it?
[15:59] <ripthejacker> Touhou11, even in cli empathy doesnt specify any reason
[16:00] <iceroot> islandmonkey: sudo apt-get update     should restore it
[16:01] <islandmonkey> OK will do that
[16:01] <ripthejacker> anybody here using empathy in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:01] <islandmonkey> !cookie | iceroot
[16:02] <kakashi1> hey guys, do you know a ppa to get ONLY xfce, no xubuntu please :)
[16:02] <TakeItEZ> kakashi1: apt-get install xfce4
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> kakashi1  no ppa needed, it's in the repos
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> TakeItEZ  was faster
[16:03] <islandmonkey> kakashi1: Simple, sudo apt-get install xfce
[16:03] <ripthejacker> Touhou11, here's the pastebin of empathy-debugger
[16:03] <ripthejacker> http://pastebin.com/EwFAmWvT
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> kakashi1  careful with PPAs, as they are not screened
[16:06] <milen8204> hello all have very strange problem, my ubuntu 12.04 goes in chinese  language, how to change to default language = english ?
[16:08] <kid22> good morning
[16:08] <Septima> morning
[16:09] <kid22> well, i have a question and I was wondering if anyone here know if there is a software for vsphere client 4 for linux
[16:09] <kid22> ubuntu
[16:09] <saveTheWorld> hello  I'm trying to understand how to install perl libraries onto my ubuntu system. I understand cpan is not the proper way to do it for Ubuntu? Can someone give me a hint where to start?
[16:10] <ripthejacker> please someone help
[16:10] <ripthejacker> i am trying to setup empathy but it is giving error 'disconnected reason not specified'
[16:10] <Septima> saveTheWorld: give me the name of one of the libraries you want
[16:11] <saveTheWorld> Septima: 'alf a mo..
[16:11] <Abrer> kid22: Closest I know to a vsphere client on linux is a VM or an experimental web client they have. Doesn't run ubuntu tho.
[16:11] <saveTheWorld> Septima: LWP/UserAgent.pm
[16:12] <researcher123> when I insert a CD I get message "CD already mounted"
[16:12] <saveTheWorld> researcher123: do you have any other devices  in use - like a USB drive, or perhaps a second cd drive?
[16:13] <researcher123> saveTheWorld: Im runing Brasero for DVD writing
[16:13] <Abrer> kid22: Actually the web client I'm referring to I think is vCenter Server. :\
[16:13] <kid22> abrer: thank you , but if i find out i let you guys know
[16:13] <kid22> =)
[16:13] <erncic> Septima: Per the log you attached... you have a DNS issue. talk.google.com lookup is failing.
[16:13] <kid22> well, i tried not to use that but
[16:13] <TakeItEZ> saveTheWorld: install apt-file, then "apt-file search LWP/UserAgent.pm"
[16:13] <kid22> it is better than nothing
[16:14] <Touhou11> saveTheWorld: I'd still use cpan personally. Some Perl libraries are in the Ubuntu repositories, but they're often outdated
[16:14] <Confucius> milen8204, open "Language Support"
[16:14] <saveTheWorld> researcher123: OK, does that information answer the question I asked?
[16:14] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: Thanks!
[16:14] <researcher123> saveTheWorld: yes
[16:15] <haole> hey there... if I'm the owner of a directory and it has the permission bits like this: drw-------, i'm supposed to be able to enter it through the shell, right?
[16:15] <Abrer> kid22: Yea.. It drove me nuts when I was messing with VMware stuff and had no client on linux. Ended up using a VM
[16:15] <saveTheWorld> Touhou11: OK, yes, I seem to always have severe issues when i try to use perl on ubuntu systems. Its starting to look like a conspiracy to eliminate perl and have everyone switch to python.....
[16:15] <TakeItEZ> haole: no, execution-bit not set
[16:15] <Septima> erncic: wrong person
[16:16] <erncic> ripthejacker, Per the log you attached... you have a DNS issue. talk.google.com lookup is failing
[16:16] <erncic> Septima: thanks, just noticed the same
[16:16] <haole> TakeItEZ: I'm having problems with gnome-documents... it is creating some files in the ~/.cache dir with these wrong permissions... where can I get support for this?
[16:17] <TakeItEZ> haole: files with rw- are fine, just directories need --x being set to enter
[16:17] <ripthejacker> erncic, but when i do a ping talk.google.com its working fine
[16:17] <haole> TakeItEZ: it creates a directory without the execution bit... seems like a bug
[16:17] <ripthejacker> erncic, --- talk.l.google.com ping statistics ---
[16:17] <ripthejacker> 15 packets transmitted, 15 received, 0% packet loss, time 14020ms
[16:17] <ripthejacker> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 69.845/77.108/80.871/3.510 ms
[16:18] <haole> maybe nobody is using gnome 3 with Ubuntu :D
[16:18] <TakeItEZ> haole: what program creates this? file a bugreport then
[16:18] <haole> TakeItEZ: gnome-documents... it's a kind of thumbnailer for documents
[16:18] <Septima> woah! 14020 ms
[16:19] <TakeItEZ> !bug | haole
[16:20] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys how to verify isc-dhcp-server working , (dhcp server) in ubuntu 12.04
[16:20] <dhanasekaran> working good
[16:21] <dhanasekaran> Guys, How to verify dhcp server working good not not,  please guide me guys
[16:22] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: connect a device to it
[16:22] <ikonia> does it get an ip
[16:22] <ikonia> working = yes/no
[16:22] <saveTheWorld> researcher123: so I assume from your answer you have no other devices like the ones I mentioned?
[16:22] <Semilevel> That no one ever was.
[16:23] <alericoveri> dhanasekaran, on your server you could do sudo tail -f /var/log/messages, set another device to automatic and check out log entries in your server, see what happens
[16:23] <ikonia> Semilevel: pardon ?
[16:23] <Semilevel> oops
[16:23] <Semilevel> wrong IRC
[16:24] <erncic> ripthejacker, Just saying what I am seeing. at 491 in the pastebin= No address associated with hostname , and then cleanup and shutdown occurs.
[16:25] <MaxFrames> hello
[16:25] <alericoveri> dhanasekaran, show me a pastebin of your isc-dhcp log entries
[16:25] <MaxFrames> how do I uninstall grub from the boot sector of an external drive (sd card)?
[16:25] <ikonia> MaxFrames: you need to overwrite it with something else
[16:25] <ikonia> or zero it
[16:25] <MaxFrames> how?
[16:26] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=444 count=1
[16:26] <rumpel> MaxFrames, why do you need to?
[16:26] <MaxFrames> TakeItEZ: literally? or are there variable parameters?
[16:27] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: sdX is to be replaced by your device
[16:27] <MaxFrames> ok
[16:27] <MaxFrames> and I can do that on the drive that I have booted from?
[16:27] <MaxFrames> i.e. if I boot from the sd card to ubuntuù
[16:28] <ikonia> MaxFrames: why would you do this
[16:28] <ikonia> if the drive is in use, why would you try to modify the boot sector
[16:28] <ikonia> (you can do it) but it's not making sense
[16:28] <kakashi1> MonkeyDust: I have ubuntuLTS 12.04, want to have xfce 4.10
[16:28] <kakashi1> for that I need the latest ppa :)
[16:28] <TakeItEZ> MaxFrames: you can do it with whatever device yuo want, it jsut overwrites the bootrecord with 0. but you should know what device you use and why you want to do so
[16:28] <MaxFrames> it is making sense since I want to use the sd card as storage space..... so I need to wipe the OS _and_ the MBR from it..........
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> kakashi1  sudo apt-get install xfce4 does the trick
[16:29] <ikonia> MaxFrames: why do you need to remove the MBR for storage space
[16:29] <ikonia> MaxFrames: and you can't wipe the OS while you're booted from it
[16:29] <MaxFrames> because the sd card is the first boot device.... and I want to wipe it completely anyway... "like new"
[16:30] <rumpel> MaxFrames, just format it the usual way.
[16:30] <alimj> kakashi1: you cal also try (apt-get install xubuntu-desktop) to install al xubuntu default software. However you will end up having many duplicate software for the same task
[16:30] <jtheuer_> how can I disable a users password so he can only login with ssh key?
[16:30] <rumpel> MaxFrames, it really doesnt matter, if there is still some kind of bootsector. You won't use it for booting anyhow.
[16:30] <MaxFrames> rumpel: I don't think just formatting the card would remove grub
[16:30] <jtheuer_> and cannot change it
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> jtheuer_  guess you need a rsa-key
[16:31] <jtheuer_> MonkeyDust: to disable a password? no
[16:31] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: did apt-file and it found a number of LWP modules like: perl-modules: perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.16.2/CPAN/LWP/UserAgent.pm and others. I tried perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.16.2/CPAN/LWP/UserAgent.pm and got E: Unable to locate package perl5/LWP.   How should I reform the name to use it with apt-get install?
[16:31] <taime1> how can i print without spooling?
[16:31] <rumpel> MaxFrames, unnecessary work
[16:31] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: erro - used wrong file name in that post
[16:31] <TakeItEZ> saveTheWorld: apt-file shows you the package-name at the beginning of the line
[16:32] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: ah.
[16:32] <MaxFrames> rumpel: I'll judge what is necessary, thanks ;)
[16:33] <David--> is /etc/rc.local executable by default?
[16:34] <rumpel> MaxFrames, if you use dd there is also some risk. One wrong digit and your partitions will vanish.
[16:34] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: whee! has started well. Thank you again.
[16:34] <Hawkerz> hi, opinion question
[16:34] <tukangsapu_> #gorontalo
[16:34] <Hawkerz> nfs or samba
[16:35] <alimj> hawkerz: I use both
[16:35] <erncic> David: Mine is and I have no reason to believe it is not at it's default
[16:35] <TakeItEZ> !polls | Hawkerz without more details, nobody could answer
[16:35] <Hawkerz> alimj, any particular reason?
[16:35] <Semilevel> Hawkz.
[16:36] <alimj> ubottu: Agree with you
[16:36] <Hawkerz> ah, the subcultures on freenode drive me a bit crazy
[16:36] <Septima> yep
[16:36] <saveTheWorld> alimj: ubottu's real name is Dave Turing. He is Alan turing's grand-nephew.
[16:37] <Touhou11> NFS. Because the developers didn't have to discover the protocol via network sniffing
[16:37] <Touhou11> (even though the Samba devs do a good job)
[16:37] <Hawkerz> Are there reliable benchmarks for speed comparisons anywhere?
[16:37] <David--> can i just add the path to a script in /etc/rc.local and it will execute on boot? or do i need to add "" around it?
[16:38] <ikonia> Hawkerz: are you using this on a home network ?
[16:38] <alimj> Hawkerz: If you have Microsoft Windows Clients, you can use samba
[16:38] <Hawkerz> ikonia, yes
[16:38] <ikonia> Hawkerz: do you have any windows clients ?
[16:38] <Hawkerz> alimj, I don't have windows clients and i can use samba either way
[16:38] <Touhou11> alimj: No shit...
[16:38] <Hawkerz> christ
[16:38] <saveTheWorld> David--: you need to add directory paths to the EXISTING path variable.  Its named PATH
[16:39] <ikonia> Hawkerz: NFS is native to linux, so that would be a preferable choice .
[16:39] <IdleOne> Touhou11: Please keep the language clean.
[16:39] <David--> saveTheWorld: will this be okay: /srv/nnplus/misc/sphinx/nnindexer.php daemon
[16:39] <Hawkerz> ikonia, any idea how much trouble that is to mount on os x?
[16:39] <David--> saveTheWorld: or does it need to be: "/srv/nnplus/misc/sphinx/nnindexer.php daemon" ?
[16:39] <erncic> David--, no quotes needed
[16:39] <David--> thanks
[16:40] <ikonia> Hawkerz: none, OS X has excellent NFS support
[16:40] <saveTheWorld> David--: My suggestionb would be to google for: linux "PATH="   to see how many people do it.
[16:40] <Hawkerz> fantastic
[16:40] <Hawkerz> that's all i needed to hear
[16:40] <TakeItEZ> theres nfs-services for windows too
[16:40] <kid22> sorry about that
[16:40] <kid22> anyway i will be back later on
[16:40] <kid22> thank you everyone
[16:40] <saveTheWorld> TakeItEZ: really? is that an apt package?
[16:40] <ikonia> no
[16:40] <David--> saveTheWorld: i will when it's setup :)
[16:40] <TakeItEZ> saveTheWorld: apt- for windows? i doubt that
[16:41] <ikonia> it's a windows package
[16:41] <ikonia> hence "NFS for windows"
[16:41] <saveTheWorld> Doh!  heh heh :-) Got too excited.
[16:41] <Hawkerz> I do find it hard to believe that asking people for their opinions about the best way to solve a problem is frowned upon :/
[16:42] <Touhou11> Has anyone used NFS for Windows though? Microsoft tends to deliberately sabotague interoperability parts of their code
[16:42] <saveTheWorld> I just remember the horrible pain i went through installing NFS support on a whole building of Windows boxes back in 1987-ish.
[16:42] <computer> .
[16:42] <alimj> Touhou11: Agree with you
[16:42] <BrainPaid> saveTheWorld: please dont chat about windows
[16:42] <ikonia> Hawkerz: "which is better" - bad, "I'm using all unix based systems, what can I use to share file systesm" = good
[16:43] <ikonia> Hawkerz: give context and ask for opinion no problem, just random a V b = bad
[16:43] <BrainPaid> ubottu: kick
[16:43] <ikonia> BrainPaid: no,
[16:43] <saveTheWorld> BrainPaid: i was expressing my pain, win was ancillary, but OK. will refrain :-)
[16:43] <Hawkerz> ikonia, everyone has opinions on these types of questions, I didn't mean to make it seem like I wanted someone to give me the objective truth.  I only wanted to see what concerns people had when choosing
[16:44] <ikonia> Hawkerz: yes, so you need to give context
[16:44] <ikonia> Hawkerz: if people had sad "NFS all the way !!!" and then you come back saying "I can't connect my windows clients, it's a waste
[16:44] <Hawkerz> ikonia, and often there might be some factor like, 'nfs hasn't been updated in 2 years' or some strange fact I'm unaware of, which would come to light here
[16:44] <ikonia> Hawkerz: give context, and it's great
[16:45] <Hawkerz> fair enough
[16:45] <gaussblurinc_> are there any good channel for cinnamon development?
[16:45] <Touhou11> gaussblurinc_: #spice
[16:45] <gaussblurinc_> Touhou11: thanks!
[16:45] <Uranio> anybody know hot to pair a bluetooth device without visual applications
[16:46] <BrainPaid> how to reinstall grub under win?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: did you use Wubi to install Ubuntu?
[16:46] <datatron2000> ever since my upgrade to 12.10 i am unable to mount my android phone
[16:46] <Vyom> BrainPaid, Install Grub Customizer
[16:46] <BrainPaid> I hasn't a ISO UBUNTU
[16:46] <Vyom> from live disk.
[16:47] <BrainPaid> I'm using netbook :(
[16:47] <Touhou11> Uranio: http://www.stlinux.com/kernel/bluetooth/how-to-run-BlueZ
[16:47] <alimj> then from Live Flash
[16:47] <BrainPaid> I hasnt got a disk driver
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  what were you doing and what went wrong, before you came here?
[16:47] <BrainPaid> Yes, I know
[16:47] <BrainPaid> But, I can't have a Ubuntu ISO
[16:47] <BrainPaid> My net is expire..
[16:48] <BrainPaid> Quota
[16:48] <Touhou11> You can get Ubuntu CDs for free through the post
[16:48] <Hapzzz> so i added Hebrew to the keyboard layouts, and i can't switch to it. any ideas why?
[16:48] <Septima> quotas are going to destroy us all
[16:49] <alimj> BrainPaid: Get a very small ISO. Perhaps server version.
[16:49] <Septima> BrainPaid: maybe use the wifi at mcdonalds or the library or something
[16:49] <BrainPaid> Septima: pretty think :)
[16:49] <BrainPaid> alimj: yes, maybe. I have got 400 mb quota
[16:50] <alimj> Hapzzz: Are you trying alt+shift? or trying that by clicking the icon
[16:50] <Hapzzz> the first.
[16:50] <Hapzzz> the icon does change
[16:51] <Hapzzz> alt-shift won't work tho
[16:51] <alimj> Bad Microsoft Windows habit
[16:51] <alimj> You have to associate a shortcut for this
[16:51] <Hapzzz> how?
[16:51] <alimj> Let me send you a link.
[16:51] <Hapzzz> thanks.
[16:52] <BrainPaid> microsoft windows is bad, I think. Windows 8 maybe.
[16:53] <alimj> hapzzz: Which version are you using? 12.04 or 10.04? or anything else?
[16:54] <Hapzzz> i'm not sure. i believe the latest.
[16:54] <Hapzzz> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[16:54] <Hapzzz> that one.
[16:55] <David--> should i leave the test line in /etc/rc.local?
[16:56] <alimj> pen System Settings, go to Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab
[16:56] <alimj> open System Settings, go to Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab,
[16:56] <BrainPaid> who using 10.04 lucid :D its good but too old already.
[16:57] <ikonia> BrainPaid: it has years left of support
[16:57] <ikonia> BrainPaid: it's still very much active
[16:57] <BrainPaid> Yes, bt5 is using lucid
[16:57] <Hapzzz> alimj found it, but i cant find anything related to language change there
[16:57] <alimj> Hapzzz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68127/how-to-switch-language-keyboard-combination
[16:58] <ikonia> BrainPaid: BT is nothing to do with ubuntu's status or support
[16:58] <BrainPaid> But bt5 is ubuntu10.0f based
[16:58] <alimj> Hapzzz: Confirm if it works. Otherwise come back here.
[16:58] <Hapzzz> thanks.
[16:58] <Hapzzz> it does.
[16:59] <ikonia> BrainPaid: yes, but it has nothing to do with the ubuntu project, it's support of lifecycle
[16:59] <ikonia> BrainPaid: are you using ubuntu or backtrack ?
[16:59] <BrainPaid> Im using ubuntu and backtrack.
[16:59] <BrainPaid> I choose the os on grub
[17:00] <alimj> Hapzzz: Happy to hear about it.
[17:00] <ikonia> BrainPaid: which distro's grub is installed ?
[17:01] <BrainPaid> grub is deleted for few minutes, I
[17:01] <alimj> Hapzzz: you can also change the interface of some applications to Hebrew
[17:01] <BrainPaid> I using my mobile phone now
[17:02] <BrainPaid> mIRGGI for symbian project
[17:03] <DrCode> hi all
[17:03] <J22> hi there DrCode
[17:04] <DrCode> how can I know if my wifi qulity is ok, I got in iwconfig:  Link Quality=42/70  Signal level=-68 dBm
[17:05] <J22> DrCode, no idea
[17:05] <DrCode> ok
[17:06] <J22> Dr code -68=-1/l*10*log(input/output)???
[17:06] <DrCode> dont know
[17:06] <DrCode> I just run iwconfig
[17:07] <77CABYRY9> hi, I've a problem with font rendering of the system default font unter ubuntu 12.10.  the ubuntun font is rendered as a fallback serif font in my Qt application
[17:07] <J22> DrCode, cant U send some file through the link?
[17:15] <J22> it seems to be lunch time :D
[17:30] <Guest96298> hi, is it possible to redirect data sent to CUPS to an external app, I mean some kind of "piping" the postscript data generated by CUPS?
[17:35] <cfedde> Guest96298: down inside the CUPS confirguration there are hooks for calling formatters for particular printers.  You could hook your needs in there.
[17:37] <Guest96298> cfedde, could you be more specific or point to somewhere to get more info about this? thank you very much
[17:40] <Red-Raven> I need some help. I deleted some files from a Windows 7 partition from Ubuntu b/c I was getting permission errors even as admin on Win7. The files are gone now, but on windows 7 I still have the same amount of free disk space.
[17:41] <Walex> Red-Raven: if they were not big files, numbers are rounded...
[17:41] <Red-Raven> they were. it was 7 GB.
[17:41] <Walex> Red-Raven: in any case you can do a 'chkdsk' of the relevant filesystem
[17:41] <computer> k ive added myself to libvirt group..
[17:41] <Red-Raven> A whole user.
[17:41] <Walex> Red-Raven: you can do that most easily in MS-Windows.
[17:42] <computer> i can run virtual machine manager with no error msg, now what?/
[17:42] <Red-Raven> Walex: So if I run chkdsk on Win7 it should pick up on the files and delete them or at least make them visible again?
[17:43] <Walex> Red-Raven: visible again is a bit of a challenge, if they have been deleted and not just moved to the trash.
[17:44] <Walex> Red-Raven: anyhow, check also the trash directory they may be there.
[17:44] <Red-Raven> Walex: If it will delete them that's even better.
[17:47] <Red-Raven> Walex: I just checked the $Recycle folder from Ubuntu and there are a bunch of garbled files in it. Some resemble the ones I tried to delete.
[17:47] <andrea_> ciao
[17:48] <Red-Raven> Walex: The properties of $Recycle say it's only 1.1 GB.
[17:53] <jn1> hi, trying to get luakit to work, but all pages I open the browser return unable to load page
[17:54] <uebas> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=0CbnTEMfRdeEb9-orgZc_QWP_Zpkv7RXC2Bew8EDAYD6NhsiZHZljdhDD9Mf-1hc7pjaAJr6smTN-dB2s8Qqsw#episodio-1
[17:54] <uebas> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=NVq56AQ2vxgECOtvW_3-cC_MeqWSEVkU2vlXs7SL5zHkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#teaser
[17:54] <FloodBot1> uebas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <lucido> Howdy ho!
[18:02] <pats_Toms> someone have working courses on ubuntu?
[18:03] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean.
[18:06] <pats_Toms> libncurses5-dev and libncursesw5-dev package
[18:06] <pats_Toms> I can't get them working on ubuntu :/
[18:06] <mgolisch> pats_Toms: why?
[18:06] <mgolisch> pats_Toms: and what do you mean by you cant get them working?
[18:07] <pats_Toms> I am going to compile source
[18:07] <mgolisch> and?
[18:08] <pats_Toms> I got many undefined references
[18:08] <dr_willis> spcific error messages?  with logs/outputs?
[18:08] <pats_Toms> srdscr, wgetch...
[18:09] <pats_Toms> really don't know what libs I am missing now
[18:09] <mgolisch> nopaste the make output somewhere
[18:09] <dr_willis> what are you compiling?
[18:09] <pats_Toms> random code
[18:09] <Catbuntu> Heya
[18:10] <pats_Toms> C code
[18:10] <Catbuntu> Which Nvidia driver should I install on Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity? nvidia-current, nvidia-current-updates or nvidia-experimental-310?
[18:11] <matrixa1> pats_Toms, are you a troll?
[18:11] <matrixa1> or are you trying to make #ubuntu do your homework
[18:11] <dcherniv> oh my... no
[18:12] <pats_Toms> :D
[18:12] <pats_Toms> sorry everyone
[18:12] <pats_Toms> I really don't want to waste all your time
[18:12] <pats_Toms> found something what could help on net
[18:13] <Catbuntu> Usually it's better to search before asking.
[18:15] <Septima> humm... so, does blocking all outgoing connections for a user prevent them from running graphical applications?
[18:16] <dr_willis> Septima:  wouldent think so
[18:16] <Catbuntu> I don't think so, Septima.
[18:16] <Catbuntu> If it's a local X server, if you connect to a remote desktop it should block it AFAIK.
[18:19] <Septima> yeah, it must be something else... i created a user and blocked all their outgoing connections using iptables... but with or without iptables rules, i'm getting 'No protocol specified', when i try to run anything graphical
[18:19] <Septima> along with something like Error: cannot open display: :0.0
[18:21] <dr_willis> x does  use internal  connections.
[18:22] <Catbuntu> That may be an X error
[18:29] <speculater> Anyone using FileZilla?
[18:32] <PJSingh5000> On Ubuntu 12.10, I have selected a custom wallpaper located in my ~/Pictures folder.  However this wallpaper does not show up as the user background on the LDM login screen.  (The permissions on the image I selected are set to read for user, group, and other).
[18:34] <cbradley77> I installed Ubuntu 12.12 over my entire hard drive and when I try to install xp with sp3 I get the blue screen of death. Any suggestions would be great
[18:35] <PJSingh5000> cbradley77, are you trying to delete your Ubuntu installation?
[18:35] <cbradley77> for now yes
[18:35] <delarge> hi there, can i add my own interface in /etc/network/interfaces? for example iface my_static_lan inet static and then the adress,netmask, etc ?
[18:36] <cbradley77> i know the copy of windows is good because it works in virtual box but when i boot off the cd and try and install i get the blue screen of death
[18:36] <carlo> list
[18:36] <delarge> i'm asking because i did that and when i tried ifup my_static_lan i have several errors
[18:37] <PJSingh5000> cbradley77, I presume your BIOS is set to boot from CD.
[18:37] <PJSingh5000> ?
[18:38] <cbradley77> yes it is
[18:38] <alimj> cdbradly77: Delete your partitions from Ubuntu, then restart and boot from CD
[18:39] <alimj> PJSingh5000: I do not think that putting wallpaper on ~/Pictures is a good idea
[18:39] <cbradley77> i have to boot from the live cd to delete my partitions correct? then format to nfts?
[18:39] <alimj> The Pictures directory permission itself could be the source of problem
[18:39] <PJSingh5000> delarge, after you setup the new interface using the "Edit Connections" in the system tray, did you try to select/enable the connection directly from the system tray, or are you only trying to start it from the commandline?
[18:40] <delarge> i'm using only the commandline
[18:40] <cbradley77> or is there a way that i can install windows side by side with my ubuntu installation. I don't have the grub bootloader
[18:41] <mrhyde> hi guise! ubuntu is teh coolz
[18:41] <mrhyde> whats linux primarily used for? Servers?
[18:41] <PJSingh5000> alimj, My understanding is that, by design, LDM selects user wallpapers from two locations the "Wallpapers" selection in the Appearance dialogue, and from the user's Pictures folder.  This was working yesterday, and stopped working today.  I did check the permissions on the Pictures folder.
[18:41] <mrhyde> I see nowhere in commercial businesses have linux any use for
[18:42] <lacrymol1gy> my xorg froze completely
[18:42] <lacrymol1gy> cpu usage is low
[18:42] <alimj> LDM, XDM, LXDM and GDM are executed before user login
[18:42] <b14d3> mrhyde: That wasn't really a sentence, and it's used for just about everything. Depends on a lot of things. If you're basing your opinion off of commercial business, keep in mind that they probably have structures and hierarchies that they may just not want to take the time to port over.
[18:43] <lacrymol1gy> C-A-backspace doesn't do anything
[18:43] <mrhyde> right
[18:43] <PJSingh5000> cbradley77, you can definitely install Windows side-by-side.  You would need to create a separate partition for your windows.  Then, you insert the windows CD, reboot, and select the new partition as the place where you want to install Windows, using the wndows installer.  However, since you are having an issue simply reinstalling from your CD, this might not work for you either.
[18:44] <alimj> PJ: You can set the permission of Pictures folder to ALL but this is a major breach of security. Please do not do this.
[18:44] <kid22> does anyone recommend tor
[18:44] <kid22> to be installed
[18:44] <mrhyde> is it true that if we didnt have macs we wouldnt have linux?
[18:45] <dooma09> hello. can you chroot with openssh but allow bash like ls command?
[18:45] <kid22> i thought it was the other way around without linux we would not have macs =)
[18:45] <rumpel> mrhyde, no, it's not
[18:45] <b14d3> !ubuntu | mrhyde
[18:45] <CrazyZurfer> How can I know the Music codecs I've got?
[18:45] <b14d3> May want to read up.
[18:45] <dcherniv> dooma09, huh?
[18:45] <PJSingh5000> alimj, like I said, this was working just the other day.  Even if LDM is executed before login, the directory /home/???/Pictures still exists.  LDM should be able to read the image from there.  Besides, I don't want to copy my picture to /usr/share/backgrounds using root privileges.  That would defeat the purpose. Also, this works perfectly fine on two other 12.04 installations I have.
[18:46] <dr_willis> dooma09:  you can ssh in then chroot.. yes
[18:46] <alimj> cbradlye77: PJ is correct. If you really require XP, try to install it first, then install Ubuntu
[18:46] <mrhyde> I'm studying graphic design in college so I have a macintosh machine but I'm also very curious about ubuntu :)
[18:47] <b14d3> mrhyde: Then we encourage you to read up on the capabilities and the possibilities of the operating system.
[18:47] <dooma09> dr_willis: thanks. ok can u somehow hide the /bin or /lib directories so Windows users who sftp into it will not see these folders?
[18:47] <CrazyZurfer> mrhyde: Did you checked out Ubuntu studio distribution?
[18:47] <kid22> so it is like this Linus > Windows > Macs?
[18:47] <rushboy> hello I get this error on running autogen.sh for a certain program : Archive/Zip.pm in @INC . Can anyone please tell me as to how do I add the required file to @INC ?
[18:47] <delarge> PJSingh5000: http://pastebin.com/LEnkeMd1
[18:47] <kid22> so it is like this Linux > Windows > Macs?
[18:47] <kid22> that is how i look at it
[18:47] <b14d3> kid22: That's entirely opinion based
[18:48] <kid22> kk
[18:48] <kid22> well bbl
[18:48] <PJSingh5000> alimj, I agree about setting permissions for "all" being a security issue.  However, just debug this, I did try setting the rwx permissions for "all".  This still didn't work.  As far as I know, this is definitely an as-designed use case to allow users to select personal images from their Pictures folders.  As long as the picture you select has a read by all permission set, LDM should just pick it up.
[18:48] <Septima> ok, so i'm getting these 'unable to open display'..'no display specified'.. etc errors either way i try to run a program as another user, either by su or by pkexec
[18:49] <Neo31`> hello folks, I cannot find maverick repositories any more on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[18:49] <bekks> Septima: Dont use su or pkexec for graphical applications, use gksu
[18:49] <Septima> bekks: i'll give it a try
[18:49] <PJSingh5000> mrhyde, have you tried "Gimp" for graphic design?  (I believe you can install it in other OSs as well as Linus).
[18:49] <bekks> Neo31`: Because maverick is EOL.
[18:50] <Neo31`> where can I get the repositories for now !? I need to upgrade an old ubuntu version please
[18:50] <k1l_> !eol | Neo31
[18:50] <OerHeks> Neo31`,  maverick is EOL
[18:50] <alimj> PJ: I am not sure. I have to check.
[18:50] <Neo31`> yes I know bkks, but I need to upgrade it
[18:50] <cub> linux doesnt work
[18:50] <cub> windows atleast is user friendly
[18:50] <k1l_> !ot | cub
[18:50] <CrazyZurfer> b14d3: do you know where can I see installed codecs? :)
[18:51] <OerHeks> Neo31`, see te last url from ubottu, it shows a way to do this, but you won't get the latest security updates
[18:51] <b14d3> CrazyZurfer: Sorry, no I don't. If I come across anything I'll let you know.
[18:51] <k1l_> Neo31`: see the message the bot gave you
[18:51] <CrazyZurfer> b14d3: okay, thanks
[18:52] <Neo31`> thanks OerHeks k1l_
[18:52] <DR01D-Engineer> will ubuntu support most of the usb sticks around?
[18:52] <DR01D-Engineer> without configuring weird drivers
[18:52] <b14d3> CrazyZurfer: Out of curiosity, why do you need to see that?
[18:54] <MDesigner> test
[18:54] <dr_willis> DR01D-Engineer: what kind of stick?
[18:54] <DR01D-Engineer> usb flash drive. like kingston, sandisk, over 8gb
[18:54] <Septima> bekks: then i get: You need to run terminator in an X environment. Make sure $DISPLAY is properly set
[18:55] <PJSingh5000> delarge, I think I am understanding what you want to do.  Sometimes, you want to be able to select a connection with a Static IP Address.  Other times, you would like to have your routers' DHCP provide your machine an IP Address.  Is this correct?
[18:55] <bekks> Septima: So what exactly are you doing, and where (in a xterm or on a console)?
[18:55] <[reed]> How do I reset the gnome panel back to default settings? I'm on 12.10 with unity turned off.
[18:55] <BoReD_WiSdOm> DR01D-Engineer,  yes it supports all flash drives
[18:56] <DR01D-Engineer> cool thanks
[18:56] <Rendy> hi
[18:56] <Rendy> any one can help me?
[18:56] <Septima> bekks: well i got that from running gksu, selecting the user, and entering terminator as the command.. i ran gksu from inside another terminator window
[18:56] <b14d3> !ask | Rendy
[18:57] <Rendy> i new user Linux.. and i use Ubuntu. i have search in Google.. but i not get
[18:57] <alimj> PJ: I just thought that creating a Symbolic Link to the original image would work.
[18:57] <Rendy> !ask amd ati if i install got blank
[18:58] <mynithix> Hi!
[18:58] <Rendy> sir or madam.. can help me?
[18:58] <b14d3> Rendy: Just type out your question and someone will try and help you.
[18:58] <mynithix> Is there anyone who have experience with installing Knoppix over an Ubuntu dualboot?
[18:58] <PJSingh5000> alimj, if I create a symbolic link, I would still need to use root permissions to create the link in /usr/share/backgrounds/
[18:59] <BoReD_WiSdOm> Rendy, as said earlier ask your question clearly preferebly in one lie
[18:59] <PJSingh5000> Rendy, what are you trying to do?
[18:59] <mynithix> Is there anyone who have experience with installing Knoppix over an Ubuntu dualboot?
[18:59] <Rendy> wait my english bad sir..
[18:59] <Rendy> i install Ubuntu 12.10, i want install my driver amd radeon 6300
[19:00] <Rendy> i follow in google, but got crash
[19:00] <mynithix> Rendy which language do you speak normally?!
[19:00] <b14d3> Rendy: Sorry for the interruption, but what language are you comfortable with? There are several channels in other languages and they may be able to help.
[19:00] <Septima> bekks: if i do it from Konsole and try to run leafpad, it gives: leafpad: Cannot open display:
[19:00] <dr_willis> mynithix: over meaning replaceing ubuntu?
[19:00] <mynithix> yes dr_willis
[19:01] <mynithix> Or is there any better IRC for that?!
[19:01] <mynithix> Because im already in LiveKnoppix
[19:01] <dr_willis> mynithix: delete/format the partitiins  thrn install...
[19:01] <mynithix> But I still want that the dualboot works...
[19:01] <mynithix> (MacOS)
[19:02] <dr_willis> you just said you were replaceing ubuntu
[19:02] <WXZ> how do I get ubuntu to recognize this coolpix cam?
[19:02] <k1l_> mynithix: that is an knoppix issue, not a ubuntu one.
[19:02] <mynithix> okay
[19:02] <mynithix> a better irc?
[19:02] <Rendy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-- there says. apt-get install  fglrx .. but after i install,.. i Reboot my laptop.. and got just wallpaper -_-
[19:02] <k1l_> mynithix: since you have mac and install a knoppix
[19:02] <k1l_> !alis | mynithix
[19:03] <b14d3> Rendy: What is your native language?
[19:03] <dr_willis> you can set up grub2 to boot iso files
[19:03] <k1l_> mynithix: or search on the knoppix page for their support
[19:03] <Rendy> -_- wait sir i translate
[19:03] <Septima> Rendy: it's a bug with ati and unity
[19:03] <mynithix> Okay, I think I will instll it to my stick first!
[19:06] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[19:07] <Rendy> sir b14d3 , my language its indonesia :D -_-
[19:07] <Rendy> Septima,  how to fix it sir?
[19:08] <Septima> Rendy: i was unable to fix it using the default ubuntu; i switched to Xubuntu
[19:08] <Guest41078> does anyone know how to build algorithmic financial trading software
[19:08] <Septima> Guest21612: try #programming
[19:08] <Guest41078> ty
[19:08] <Rendy> :( what its Xubuntu, i just have 1 CD from Ubuntu
[19:08] <b14d3> !id | Rendy
[19:09] <b14d3> Rendy: That may help
[19:09] <Rendy> -_- just me and chanserv in there sir ubottu
[19:11] <PJSingh5000> Guest41078, what an interesting question!  Why do you ask?
[19:11] <mrhyde> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVlY3ZTrBkw
[19:11] <OerHeks> !ot | mrhyde
[19:12] <mrhyde> sorry
[19:12] <Septima> Rendy: until they fix the bug, you might try one of the recognized ubuntu flavors here: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[19:12] <hilo> !help
[19:12] <hilo> woops
[19:16] <steryd_> when im trying to boot ubuntu from my pendrive it stays with black screen and flashing cursor at upperleft corner
[19:16] <ivegotaids> help
[19:16] <steryd_> and then nothing happens
[19:16] <ivegotaids> ive got aids
[19:16] <ivegotaids> what do i do
[19:16] <steryd_> i used unetbootin
[19:16] <ivegotaids> will i ever be able to fuck someone ever again?
[19:17] <ivegotaids> i blame obama
[19:17] <OerHeks> !nomodeset | steryd_
[19:17] <steryd_> i can change it in bios or what?
[19:18] <steryd_> i dont have linux yet
[19:18] <steryd_> and this install menu isn't showin too
[19:19] <OerHeks> steryd_, read the info from the url , and why do you say you don't have linux while you bring up an issue ?
[19:19] <steryd_> i want to install it
[19:21] <ha1dfo> hi guys/girls. On my system I have an encrypted disk and one for Ubuntu. Is there any way to completely spin down the unused disk for power management reasons?
[19:22] <ersitzt> tried hdparm ?
[19:23] <ha1dfo> well, it has 'company system', did not wanted to play around to corrupt it in any ways, tought better to ask.
[19:24] <ersitzt> hdparm -S sets the idle timeout before the disk is spun down
[19:24] <zgnuu> I'm about to wipe XP off and install Ubuntu on my new thinkpad. Is there anything I should do before I do this?
[19:24] <maslo> hi guys I currently own a virtual private server that I use as a web hosting with apache2,  everything is working fine so far but I'm having issues finding good tutorial on how to configure sendmail (it came pre installed and is able to send emails) to receive emails and to pipe them to a php script if anyone could help me out wether it's by PM or here or by sending me a tutorial that isn't outdated it would be more than appreciated!
[19:24] <dr_willis> zgnuu:  make backups..
[19:24] <zgnuu> I was thinking about updating the BIOS but I'm not going to bother.
[19:25] <zgnuu> I don't have anything on XP that I want dr_willis
[19:25] <dr_willis> you ever want to put xp back? ;) may be a good i time to upgrade to a new hd.
[19:26] <ha1dfo> ersitzt, okay, one more question: how pesistent is that? DOes it get written into disk firmware, or just for the linux?
[19:26] <ersitzt> its just for your session ha1dfo
[19:26] <ha1dfo> thanks, perfect!
[19:26] <ersitzt> you can write it to your rc file
[19:26] <ersitzt> so it gets set every time
[19:27] <zgnuu> no I don't dr_willis
[19:28] <maslo> anyone :X?
[19:28] <[snake]> maslo
[19:29] <[snake]> http://www.terriblefate.com/
[19:29] <ikonia> [snake]: why are you posting that ?
[19:29] <[snake]> for maslo
[19:29] <maslo> quite irrelevant ;/
[19:29] <[snake]> D:
[19:29] <[snake]> im sorry.
[19:30] <ikonia> [snake]: its not funny
[19:30] <[snake]> ikonia, i apologize, i'll shutup.
[19:30] <raesi> hi all
[19:30] <raesi> my sound not work in 12.04
[19:30] <raesi> plz help
[19:31] <dr_willis> !sound
[19:32] <Darknight> Hey guyes! Need help, what is if(!num) equivalent of python?
[19:33] <ikonia> Darknight: #python
[19:34] <totyko> Darknight, www.google.com or www.python.org
[19:34] <Darknight> ikonia: I can't seem to caht on #python
[19:34] <ikonia> !regiater | Darknight
[19:34] <Pricey> Darknight: Did you google? I assume you're looking for this question: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/354038/how-do-i-check-if-a-string-is-a-number-in-python ?
[19:35] <Darknight> Pricey: no
[19:36] <Darknight> totyko: I know how to google or check docs, I just can't find the right keyword to yeild a result.
[19:36] <maslo> all the tutorial/explanation I find end up asking to download a bunch fo stuff and use configs without explaining what they do and why I need those I don't want most of the stuff they make me download but I can't tell wha ti sneeded or not...I used to have a cpanel and a share hosting and switched over due to issues with my hosting and to learn more about ubuntu and ubuntu servers I just need some hints I'm assuming like keywords or so
[19:36] <[snake]> Darknight, perhaps the python tutorial know. I think in the section about operators.
[19:37] <Pricey> Darknight: Oh, I didn't realise what channel this was. See freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup as you probably need to go through that to talk in #python. Also, you might want to ask them what you *really* want, rather than a random interpretable string.
[19:37] <greenbrother> i haven't permission in /usr/bin
[19:38] <greenbrother> can someone hlep me?
[19:38] <bekks> greenbrother: Thats intended. :)
[19:38] <bekks> greenbrother: What do you want to do in there?
[19:38] <Pricey> greenbrother: What are you really trying to do?
[19:38] <greenbrother> create one file
[19:38] <dr_willis> thats a security feature
[19:38] <greenbrother> i have firefox on english
[19:38] <greenbrother> and i want make on bulgarian
[19:39] <greenbrother> i try to change one fail
[19:39] <Darknight> Pricey: Oh, I'll do that thanks. Well, I guess the question is straightforward if(!num) equivalent of python. Can't be simpler.
[19:39] <bekks> greenbrother: Why dont you create it in your $HOME then, in $HOME/bin and adjust the $PATH ?
[19:39] <Pricey> greenbrother: Have you tried using different firefox profiles?
[19:39] <Neo31`> thanks OerHeks k1l_ ubottu I have used http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu insted to upgrade from maverick :)
[19:39] <dr_willis> greenbrother:  change/dp what exactly?
[19:39] <Pricey> Darknight: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know how to interpret "if(!num)".
[19:39] <OerHeks> Neo31`,  have fun, but be carefull
[19:39] <BoReD_WiSdOm> Darknight, if you are looking for logical not operator in python it is ´not´
[19:39] <greenbrother> is home=usr?
[19:40] <Pici> greenbrother: home = /home/
[19:40] <Neo31`> yes OerHeks I will upgrade up to 12.04 then wait for 14.04 :p thanks again
[19:40] <Darknight> Pricey: In C if num = 1 !num would be 0, if num =0 !num would be 1.
[19:40] <dr_willis> greenbrother:  it may be a good time to read some bash and linux beginner guides....
[19:40] <greenbrother> yeah
[19:40] <greenbrother> i try now
[19:40] <Pricey> Darknight: BoReD_WiSdOm's question sounds right then.
[19:40] <Pricey> *answer
[19:40] <Darknight> BoReD_WiSdOm: I'll google the syntax for not, thanks.
[19:41] <totyko> Darknight, different != 0
[19:41] <klfwip> boolean false values are 0's in c
[19:41] <klfwip> that's exactly the point
[19:42] <zgnuu> could someone reccomend any sources on how to increase battery life and decrease temperature on ubuntu 12.04, and I don't know if this matters but I'm using the thinkpad x200s
[19:42] <Darknight> I think I'm looking for 'not' operator as BoReD_WiSdOm suggested.
[19:42] <Darknight> I'll look into it.
[19:42] <smithw> Does anyone know if the SanDisk Cruzer 32GB has any known incompatibility with linux and/or ubuntu? Googling it has been inconclusive (several people had this same doubt, but no definitive answer). Transferring a 4GB file to it (writing) averages a 100kb/s speed, and it doesn't happen with a) another pendrive on linux; b) the sandisk one on windows.
[19:42] <totyko> Darknight, different != 0
[19:43] <BoReD_WiSdOm> Darknight, this might help http://www.tutorialspoint.com/python/python_basic_operators.htm
[19:43] <Darknight> totyko: !different would be less verbose.
[19:44] <Pici> Can we please move the python discussion to #python, its really not on-topic for #ubuntu
[19:45] <ChesterX> good evening everybody, could you please recommend me an application to download/sync podcast using the iptc (itunes protocol unfortunately...) ubuntu?
[19:46] <Noskcaj> ChesterX, i'm not quite sure what you meant. banshee and rhythmbox both can download podcasts and play from itunes servers
[19:46] <Noskcaj> tangerine is an itunes server
[19:47] <ChesterX> alright, am i right assuming gmusicbrowser does not support that?
[19:47] <Noskcaj> ChesterX, i will check
[19:48] <dr_willis> !ipod
[19:48] <ChesterX> Noskcaj, thank you
[19:48] <Noskcaj> if you have gmusic, what *buntu are you useing
[19:51] <ChesterX> Xubuntu
[19:52] <maslo> if I install postfix should I get rid of sendmail ? and if I do is there anything else I need to get rid of to make sure everything works fine?
[19:54] <ironhalik> anything worth noting when installing Ubuntu 12.04 on  IvyBridge i5 and a Z77 chipset?
[19:54] <DaemeonZane> #uodhitsquad
[19:55] <[snake]> is there antivirus for ubuntu?
[19:55] <DaemeonZane> join #uodhitsquad
[19:56] <Noskcaj> [snake], yes, but they are not at all nessisary
[19:57] <Noskcaj> the way the linux kernal is made make virus's impossible.
[19:57] <BoReD_WiSdOm> [snake], though there is no need for an antivirus in linux, you can try clam antivirus for cleaning usb drives etc used in windows
[19:57] <ironhalik> Noskcaj: impossible, until linux goes mainstream and people actually start making viruses for it ;>
[19:57] <Noskcaj> And i believe avast make ab antivirus as well
[19:58] <Pici> !virus
[19:58] <[snake]> BoReD_WiSdOm, sounds good. I'll look for it
[19:58] <Noskcaj> ironhalik, ok, its possible, but very hard. only a few have ever existed, all only as proof of concept
[19:58] <rypervenche> [snake]: It is still possible to get trojans and PHP scripts, but probably only if you're running an web server. ClamAV can find those.
[19:59] <[snake]> rypervenche, yes, I was considering putting my webserver back up. :P
[19:59] <ironhalik> Noskcaj: because there is no interest for malware coders to try and hack it. But every software, especially as complex as GNU/Linux has vurnabilities and exploits
[19:59] <ironhalik> take android for example
[20:00] <dhanasekaran> DHCPDISCOVER from 54:52:00:32:78:69 via eth0: network 172.16.30.0/24: no free leases
[20:00] <ironhalik> but yeah, it's true its harder to hack linux
[20:00] <dhanasekaran>  Guys, How to verify dhcp server working good not not,  please guide me guys
[20:00] <rypervenche> [snake]: Schedule to have clamscan run daily on your document root then and email you if it finds anything.
[20:00] <dhanasekaran> my syslogs says DHCPDISCOVER from 54:52:00:32:78:69 via eth0: network 172.16.30.0/24: no free leases
[20:01] <gavriel> hello, i would like some help in the comprehension of ubuntu[linux] partitions
[20:01] <rypervenche> gavriel: Sure, what do you need to know?
[20:01] <gavriel> hi & ty
[20:01] <msh> hello guys
[20:01] <msh> little help.
[20:02] <b14d3> !ask | msh
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> msh, just ask your question.  we're not psychic and can't tell what you need help with.  :p
[20:02] <[snake]> msh, what is the question?
[20:02] <gavriel> well i installed ubuntu many times got it to work but there are many times that it does not boot from hardrive
[20:02] <[snake]> gavriel, is it just not booting anything? or booting into something else?
[20:02] <msh> i need a softeware to upload files via ftp and resume the file if disconnected in the middle of the transport.
[20:02] <PJSingh5000> gavriel, what do you get when yo boot Ubuntu, and it does not "boot"
[20:03] <PJSingh5000> Blank screen, frozen screen?
[20:03] <gavriel> not booting anything booting
[20:04] <PJSingh5000> gavriel, Could it be your hard drive is failing?  It stops at the Bios screen, or is it just black screen?
[20:04] <dr_willis> msh if the ftp supports resume, and so does the client...  they should work.
[20:04] <alimj> msh: Use FileZilla
[20:05] <gavriel> well after ubuntu installs, i restart, then choose the harddrive i installed too, but it does not boot. computer boots in to win7 which is on another harddrive
[20:05] <rypervenche> There's the problem.
[20:06] <rypervenche> You probably installed the boot loader on the wrong drive.
[20:06] <dhanasekaran>  Guys, How to verify dhcp server working good not not,  please guide me guys
[20:06] <PJSingh5000> rypervenche, this sounds right to  me.
[20:06] <gavriel> i make sure to select bootloader on the wd 320gb harddrive
[20:06] <alimj> rypervehce: Agree with you
[20:06] <[snake]> also gavriel this is true on much older hard drives if this is relevant to you: the jumper on it needs to be correct that there are two masters I think.
[20:07] <gavriel> hifbjk6 lbg y78l9ig7pfo6ly7pf
[20:07] <gavriel> hmm
[20:07] <PJSingh5000> gavriel, did you install Windows 1st, or second?  Generally, I find the installation goes correctly if you install Windows 1st, and then install Ubuntu.  Then the boot loader is setup properly.
[20:08] <rypervenche> gavriel: You need to install grub on the drive that boots first, in this case, the drive with windows on it.
[20:08] <[snake]> oh I didn't know that, I thought grub always went on linux, but I guess not.
[20:08] <gavriel> ok listen up ill fill u all in my setup because i got it to work already but now i try something diff as i want it and failure
[20:11] <BoReD_WiSdOm> gavriel, is it 2 seperate harddisks of 2 partitions you are talking about
[20:11] <BoReD_WiSdOm> gavriel, is it 2 seperate harddisks or *2 partitions you are talking about
[20:12] <gavriel> asus e45m1-i deluxe, wd 1TB contains w7 partition 50gb windows, rest in storage which i installed 1st. Added ubuntu, separate wd 320gb laptop HD, partitioned 300gb ubuntu ext3 /, and 20gb swap, select bootloader on ata 320gb.
[20:15] <rypervenche> gavriel: Either put grub on 1TB drive, or make 320GB drive bootable and the other not. You may need to manually make changes to grub though if you choose the latter and want to still use Windows.
[20:17] <gavriel> is there a way to get it to work w/o the need for grub etc?
[20:17] <alimj> rypervenche: Or you can press F8 when the ASUS logo appears.
[20:18] <alimj> ryperveche: A Boot menu should appear. You should be able to select the 2nd HDD. Test it and confirm. Otherwise come back.
[20:18] <gavriel> i do press f8 select the 320gb hardrive but it boots nothing, then goes to boot win7
[20:19] <gavriel> 1stly i would like to know if my partition for ubuntu are correct!!!
[20:21] <hilo> gavriel, if you install grub to the 320 hdd then the boot menu method will work
[20:21] <rypervenche> gavriel: Make sure it was to something like /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1
[20:22] <alimj> gavriel: Then it could be more complicated. You should boot with Ubuntu Live Disk. Go to shell, enter this command (sudo fdisk -l), then you should copy/paste the output to pastebin and give us the link.
[20:22] <hilo> gavriel, currently you select the 320 from the bios boot menu but since it has no bootloader on it, it moves to the next drive
[20:23] <gavriel> howcome there is o bootloader on it and i select the bootloader to be on the 320gb????
[20:23] <alimj> gavriel: There might be many issues. We do not know if grup boot loader is installed on /sda /sda1 /sdb /sdb1. We do not know if /sdb1 is marked as bootable. We can not help without having partition table information
[20:26] <novaspirit> is there a debugger or IDE to code with for kernels?
[20:26] <dooglus_> I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on an acer d270 without success
[20:26] <dooglus_> I can get a root prompt from recovery mode, but no graphics
[20:27] <dooglus_> any suggestions of how to fix it?
[20:27] <novaspirit> what type of graphic card?
[20:27] <bekks> novaspirit: You can code with every IDE or editor you like.
[20:28] <dooglus_> novaspirit: intel corp atom processor D2xxx/N2xxx integrated grapics controller
[20:28] <novaspirit> dooglus_, lol i just googled it. did 12.04 install fine?
[20:29] <alimj> dooglus: It is a low end netbook. I am not sure if Ubuntu unity could be supported. Let me see.
[20:29] <dooglus_> novaspirit: it only arrived today.  I didn't try old OSes yet
[20:29] <novaspirit> bekks, i'm using eclipse and it's heavy. but i like how it has code completion, not sure if any other ones have that option
[20:29] <dooglus_> I don't want unity anyway
[20:29] <fede54879> Hi
[20:30] <fede54879> I am Fede
[20:30] <dooglus_> installing xfce4 would be the first think I'd do
[20:30] <dooglus_> but I don't even get to the login screen
[20:30] <bekks> novaspirit: No lightweight editors have that feature.
[20:30] <dooglus_> so it's not starting unity
[20:30] <novaspirit> bekks, any suggestions?
[20:30] <dooglus_> or even trying to
[20:30] <fede54879> i am in the right channel to receive support?
[20:30] <bekks> novaspirit: whats not ok with eclipse for coding? :)
[20:30] <bekks> fede54879: Yes.
[20:31] <fede54879> i have a doubt about redirecting my ip
[20:31] <alimj> dooglus: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 3600. And your netbook has just 1GB ram.
[20:31] <dooglus_> http://wavetran.blogspot.ca/2012/10/ubuntu-forums-ubuntu-acer-aspire-one.html suggests the issue is the 3.5.x kernel
[20:31] <fede54879> thank yo for answering me bekks
[20:31] <novaspirit> bekks, it's great but when i turn it on i have to wait like 20mins for all the files to load. and a kernel being 400mb+.
[20:31] <fede54879> i will explain first
[20:32] <fede54879> i want to redirect my desktop ip address to a static ip address or url
[20:32] <bekks> novaspirit: Huh? Some old i486 in use? ;)
[20:32] <alimj> dooglus: I would recommend you to try Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[20:32] <fede54879> because my desktop ip address varies from 10.0.0.3 to 10.0.0.7 depending on the order my family starts connecting with their devices
[20:33] <novaspirit> bekks, lolsss no, i'm just starting to learn how to compile / build kernels for tegra devices. when i open the folder i think eclipes has to cross reference all the files to get the code completion working. i'm using a i5 8gb ram sata hd
[20:34] <fede54879> what i want to do is redirect a specific port (Xbmc remote port) to a static ip address or url so i shouldn't be guessing with my ipod what is the correct ip
[20:35] <novaspirit> fede54879, you can use a quick ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[20:35] <novaspirit> and change your ip
[20:35] <fede54879> can you explain me how do i do it?
[20:35] <novaspirit> fede54879, but doesn't stick on reboot
[20:35] <fede54879> i tried using noip2 without success
[20:35] <rypervenche> fede54879: Create a static lease in your router.
[20:36] <fede54879> because it redirects my dns host that is 10.0.0.2, so i access the router config
[20:36] <b14d3> I'd go with what rypervenche says
[20:36] <fede54879> ok
[20:36] <fede54879> is it difficult?
[20:36] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, why don't you just use the network manager in the system tray, and eneeryour desired IP Address right there?
[20:36] <alimj> rypervenche: Agree with you.
[20:36] <novaspirit> fede54879, you basiclly just need a static ip for your computer?
[20:37] <brendan_> hey all... so some of our servers are getting bonded and i am also slowly incorporating puppet into the infrastructure.. and the boss is installing the pt-cache search ifenslave-2.6 package, my question is.. if i include that package as part of the core_packages all of our servers receive and do not get setup for a bonded connection, would/will that package create havoc? if installed, but not used/configured
[20:37] <bekks> fede54879: Just set a static IP for your computer using the NetworkManager.
[20:37] <fede54879> ii will try that
[20:37] <elijah1> How do I make a function in bash that has multiple spaces? I am trying =>      gc() {dr dbtv vset gigya_comments_enabled "$1" ;}      and get the error "syntax error near  unexpected token `{dr'"
[20:37] <fede54879> can you give me directions, bekks?
[20:38] <bekks> !networkmanager | fede54879
[20:38] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, you would have to tell your router (in the router configuration) to reserve the IP Addresses you are assigning manually on each machine.
[20:38] <elijah1> If I do hello() { echo "hello world" ;} it works fine.
[20:38] <bekks> elijah1: Do you see the difference? "{d" vs. "{ e".
[20:40] <elijah1> bekks: My gc() function is not a string though, "dr" is an alias for Drush, which is an executable.
[20:40] <bekks> elijah1: And you still are missing a space between { and dr
[20:40] <elijah1> bekks: Oh, you mean the space?
[20:41] <bekks> elijah1: Correct.
[20:41] <elijah1> bekks: That works!
[20:41] <elijah1> bekks: Wow, I never would have figured that out, thanks so much!
[20:41] <bekks> elijah1: You're welcome :)
[20:41] <elijah1> bekks: Can you explain why that needs to be that way?
[20:42] <elijah1> bekks: For instance, there didn't need to be a space preceeding the ;
[20:42] <ghostd0g> quick question  .. since i am having trouble getting the minmal 12.10 to boot from a usb stick.. If i get a older release like 10.x to boot.. and install.. how do i upgrade to 12.10  after ?
[20:42] <bekks> elijah1: Because otherwise bash tries to evaluate "{dr" which is not a valid symbol.
[20:43] <elijah1> bekks: Thanks!
[20:43] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, otherwise, another machine on your network might get assigned the same address you picked.  But you can quickly test it first before you go into the configuration screen of your router.  Just... Network Manager | Edit Connections | Select the Network Connection to edit | Click Edit button | Select IPv4 Settings tab | For Methiod: select Manual | click Add Button | type in your Address, Net Mask (255.0.0.0), Gateway (your R
[20:43] <PJSingh5000> outer ip address).  Then do the same for the IP6 Settings tab.  Then click Save button.  Then restart the connection from Network Manager (or just reboot).
[20:44] <elijah1> bekks: This is my first bash function and am thrilled about them! I have been at Ubuntu (GNU/Linux) in general and started PHP programing earlier this year. So much cool stuff I learn everyday!
[20:45] <fede54879> i don know
[20:45] <fede54879> don't*
[20:45] <fede54879> the router automatically assign ip adresses starting from 10.0.0.3 to devices
[20:45] <bekks> elijah1: Good luck then with even more functions :)
[20:45] <brendan_> hey all... so some of our servers are getting bonded and i am also slowly incorporating puppet into the infrastructure.. and the boss is installing the pt-cache search ifenslave-2.6 package, my question is.. if i include that package as part of the core_packages all of our servers receive and do not get setup for a bonded connection, would/will that package create havoc? if installed, but not used/configured
[20:45] <PJSingh5000> ghostd0g, you have to upgrade one release after another until you get to 12.10.
[20:46] <bekks> fede54879: 10.0.0.3 is not a valid network address, but just an IP address.
[20:46] <bekks> fede54879: So which IP do you currently have on your desktop?
[20:46] <ghostd0g> boo
[20:46] <ghostd0g> hmm i might have to go for another distro then ..
[20:47] <fede54879> i currently have 10.0.0.3 beacuse i was the first who use the network today
[20:47] <elijah1> bekks: Thanks!
[20:47] <fede54879> because i shut down the router all nights
[20:47] <bekks> fede54879: And whats your netmask and gateway?
[20:47] <PJSingh5000> ghostd0g, try using the network installer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[20:47] <fede54879> netmask is 255.255.255.0
[20:48] <ghostd0g> PJSingh5000 : thanks :)
[20:48] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, sorry.  That shoud have been 225.225.225.0 as you said.
[20:48] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, yw
[20:48] <bekks> PJSingh5000: Thats nonsense.
[20:48] <fede54879> my gateway is 10.0.0.2
[20:49] <fede54879> no
[20:49] <fede54879> i am seeing right
[20:49] <fede54879> my netmask is taht
[20:49] <bekks> fede54879: You are right, he is wrong. lets move on :)
[20:49] <fede54879> that*
[20:50] <bekks> fede54879: So you can set any IP you like 10.0.0.179 / 255.255.255.0 now, after ensuring that IP isnt in use right now.
[20:50] <bekks> fede54879: And you set the same gateway and the same DNS servers (which are listed in /etc/resolv.conf)
[20:50] <fede54879> how can i do that?
[20:51] <fede54879> can i do it from the network manager?
[20:51] <bekks> fede54879: By using the NetworkManager, yes.
[20:51] <Applesouce> Hey I have a question, when you install Ubuntu-Server you get this panel during the installation, with the purple background were you can select various server-needed-tools to install them - you can recall this panel with the command line after the installation too, but I forget the command, does someone of you know?
[20:52] <ghostd0g> fede54879 : just curious do you know what kind of router you have ?
[20:52] <fede54879> yes
[20:52] <fede54879> i have a pirelli discus
[20:52] <fede54879> i think the model is drg 125
[20:53] <fede54879> please let me check that
[20:53] <guntbert> Applesouce: tasksel
[20:54] <ghostd0g> kk reson i ask was i wanted to see if i could find the documentation for it .. so you can configure it to assign a static ip to your machine ... I am just assuming that is part of what you want to do
[20:54] <fede54879> yes
[20:54] <gavriel_>  how do i delete ubuntu and linux mint uefi from my bios asus e45m1-i deluxe
[20:54] <fede54879> but i want only to set it form my wlan
[20:55] <fede54879> i don't want to open any ports to outside my wlan
[20:55] <bekks> fede54879: So just set a static IP.
[20:55] <Applesouce> guntbert: super cool thank you very much :)
[20:55] <fede54879> i don't know if i am expressing right but i don't want to compromise my sistem's security
[20:55] <VeP> Anyone got experience in customizing Ubuntu themes?   In particular, how do Firefox and Thunderbird take on those orange colors that i want to get rid of? :-)
[20:55] <bekks> fede54879: You dont unless you change the configuration of your router.
[20:56] <fede54879> exactly
[20:56] <ghostd0g> all you would be doing is telling the router to give 10.x.x.x to you machine when it joins
[20:56] <bekks> fede54879: So just set a static IP then.
[20:56] <fede54879> i prefer not to change any router config
[20:56] <fede54879> ok bekks
[20:56] <fede54879> could you give my instructions?  and i will do this right now
[20:57] <bekks> fede54879: You've been given those instructions already. Use the NetworkManager.
[20:58] <fede54879> i have already opened it
[20:58] <gavriel_>  how do i delete ubuntu and linux mint uefi from my bios asus e45m1-i deluxe?
[20:58] <PJSingh5000> fede54879, if you don't want to mess around with your router, you might want to pick a static IP address where the last number is on the higher end.  *Hopefully* your router will not assign that using DHCP to anyother computer on your network.
[20:58] <fede54879> i have to edit my wlan connection?
[20:58] <bekks> fede54879: You have to edit your current connection.
[20:59] <fede54879> do i have to set ipv4 form automatic to manual?
[20:59] <escott> gavriel_, ? delete uefi from your bios... that doesnt even make sense
[21:00] <gavriel_> :) apparently i have in my bios where u can select hard drive etc to boot from there is ubuntu there to select
[21:01] <escott> gavriel_, is it bios or efi?
[21:01] <xpoqz> never had problems, upgrade to latest version of ubuntu and window system acts slow, movie players won't go full screen etc.. wtf is wrong?
[21:01] <fede548791> from*
[21:01] <gavriel_> well my bios is the new uefi efi w/e
[21:02] <gavriel_> ubuntu and linux mint is there i just want to know how to delete it?
[21:03] <mickster04> gavriel_: efi is in place of BIOS
[21:03] <escott> gavriel_, so if you are booting efi then there is a partition called "efi system partition" which is fat formatted. it has a folder for grub which you just delete. but calling it efi bios is really confusing. its like calling something ubuntu windows
[21:03] <gavriel_> lol i know this sounds peculiar
[21:04] <mickster04> gavriel_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface it is a replacement for BIOS
[21:04] <gavriel_> but all i can tell is that in my bios after pressing del to enter, there is ubuntu and linux mint there, i know how it got there i just dont know how to delete it
[21:05] <mickster04> gavriel_: it is not bios if you have uefi.... also it doesn't make sense that you have ubuntu and linux mint in your uefi? are you sure you are not talking about grub?
[21:06] <gavriel_> well i lost there but either way how do i delete it?
[21:06] <gavriel_> is there a place where i can upload pictures etc?
[21:07] <mickster04> !pastebin
[21:07] <user82> hi. my root access seems to be disabled. when i type in the password it says "wrong". how can i change the root passwort from a live usb?
[21:08] <bekks> !root | user82
[21:08] <mickster04> user82: just use sudo <command stuff here>
[21:09] <user82> yes but that does not work. it seems to be messed up since i set my account to automatic login without password in the settings...so i need to give my user root access again from recovery console or a live system
[21:10] <mickster04> that is what sudo does
[21:11] <mickster04> what happens when you use sudo?
[21:12] <user82> mickster04, it does no accept my password. three wrong attempts. (no i did not forget it happened when i set to automatic login)
[21:12] <mickster04> user82: have you tried not entering any password?
[21:13] <user82> mickster04, that would be too intelligent...let me try...
[21:13] <user82> ^^
[21:13] <bekks> user82: Then chroot into your installation, and use passwd yourusername to change your password.
[21:14] <user82> bekks, i have the recovery console running now after editing grub.cfg with the live usb...i will try that if nothing works
[21:17] <user82> mickster04, no password does not work..
[21:20] <ghostd0g> even the netboot image wont boot from the usb stick... only the full version ... I dint get why that would be .. the hashs match .. the images are intact
[21:21] <user82> ghostd0g, it does not boot at all or it goes to "try ubuntu...." and gets stuck then
[21:21] <ghostd0g> it doesnt boot at all .. throws me into the bios
[21:21] <user82> oh ok..
[21:22] <ghostd0g> its weird
[21:22] <user82> bekks, maybe my user got removed from sudoers after setting login without password? how would i give it the right to use sudo again?
[21:22] <cheekee> is there an ubuntu virtual box channel?
[21:22] <ghostd0g> i have ubuntu full installed on the machine .. going to try to make the usb boot stick from that machine .. maybe it this windows machine messing it up
[21:23] <bekks> user82: By adding it to the sudoers again. Just check wether it was removed before.
[21:24] <bekks> cheekee: No. But there is #vbox
[21:24] <cheekee> bekks:  ok thanks
[21:24] <user82> bekks, it really got removed from the list. found the problem i guess
[21:33] <dooglus_> from what I've read I wouldn't have had problems with instaling 12.10 on this acer if I had let it download and apply updates while it installed
[21:40] <user82> well nothing works..i am now most definitly entered in the sudoers and it still rejects to accept the password...if anyone has an idea i would be glad
[21:42] <bekks> user82: Does your password contain special chars, etc.?
[21:42] <BrainPaid> bekks: hello
[21:42] <user82> bekks, yes. but i also pasted it from a text editor
[21:42] <bekks> user82: Copy & paste does not work for the passwd command.
[21:43] <user82> uh..just now it works. i was in root terminal and set a new root password. and now i set a new password for my user too. works again
[21:43] <user82> strange problem...but fixed!
[21:43] <BrainPaid> coming soon :)
[21:43] <bekks> user82: Thats what I said earlier to you.
[21:44] <user82> oh ok...i interpreted it as "change root password". anyhow it works now
[21:44] <user82> thanks
[21:47] <BrainPaid> jCuber, I want you, homie?
[21:48] <bekks> BrainPaid: Oh stop it please.
[21:48] <Noskcaj> BrainPaid, WTF
[21:49] <BrainPaid> Noskcaj: don't mix me to you
[21:49] <BrainPaid> bekks: I want my friend but JCuber don't come. I forgot them. :(
[21:52] <cryosphere> i actually use debian squeeze - but I think the issue will have the same solution
[21:52] <cryosphere> my login-prompt has been replaced with a white rectangle
[21:52] <cryosphere> im still able to access the cmputer via ssh
[21:59] <michael0243> I installed Ubuntu server on another computer and moved that drive over to my server. Everything works well except ifconfig -a shows the old Ethernet interface p4p1. How do I get rid of this?
[22:00] <michael0243> Also, I can't see my new adapters in that(there should be 2 or 3)
[22:01] <yeats> michael0243: you might need to remove lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules then reboot
[22:01] <michael0243> yeats: that file is blank
[22:02] <yeats> michael0243: what about /etc/network/interfaces ?
[22:02] <michael0243> I've modified that to work with my new interface
[22:02] <michael0243> yeats: sorry, I modified that and put in my new interface. No references to the old
[22:02] <yeats> michael0243: not sure then, sorry
[22:03] <michael0243> yeats: thanks for the help :)
[22:07] <Tristan128> How can I get a list of manually installed things? Like, things I've compiled.
[22:11] <ViaNocturna85> hey, anyone else having issues with radio through either Banshee or Rhythmbox?
[22:12] <daw_> boy this channel quite
[22:13] <saquib> h
[22:13] <daw_> Hey, how to i stop seeing people leaving and joint channels in xchat client ... please help
[22:13] <daw_> sorry typo
[22:13] <daw_> How do
[22:14] <daw_> how do i stop seeing people leaving and jointing channels in xchat client ... please help
[22:14] <mickster04> !ignore
[22:15] <mickster04> daw_: google that command, you can ignore joins/leaves with it somehow, i just forgot
[22:15] <mickster04> daw_: alternatively >settings>
[22:15] <daw_> not messages for any particular person ...  but message like ./// xxx has joinde #ubuntu etc
[22:16] <mickster04> daw_: what have you tried?
[22:16] <k1l_> daw_: rightclick on the tab from that channel and select "hide join /parts"
[22:16] <k1l_> under settings
[22:16] <daw_> wow thanks mick.... got it
[22:17] <daw_> Thanks everyone...
[22:17] <fede54879> hi
[22:17] <k1l_> mickster04: for xchat there is a setting for each channel like i described above
[22:17] <daw_> so long i haven't use IRC too much facebook and twiiter
[22:17] <fede54879> i was tryingh to set a static ip address
[22:17] <mickster04> k1l_: i use irssi :p
[22:17] <fede54879> i tried through network manager
[22:18] <mickster04> !return
[22:18] <fede54879> setting manual in my wi-fi connection and setting the ip
[22:18] <daw_> i once was into irssi but it all gone out of my head
[22:18] <fede54879> but it didn work
[22:18] <mickster04> fede54879: did you restart?
[22:18] <fede54879> yes
[22:19] <fede54879> i set it
[22:19] <fede54879> then restart and wi-fi didn't work
[22:19] <fede54879> it says it is connected but don't load any page
[22:22] <daw_> any good tutorial on irssi client any one ???
[22:23] <rr> xchat...
[22:24] <kubuntu142> quassel is also okay
[22:24] <k1l_> daw_: wikibooks got some stuff for that
[22:28] <daw_> ok..
[22:30] <dave101010> any one know how to add themes to unity
[22:31] <chipdalf> hy everyone, i am having a problem with sound an alc861-chipset, kernel 3.2 generic. i testet everything i found in google, but could not solve my problem. i have no sound, alsamixer shows me, that master could not be regulatet, everything else (pcm, cd and beep) is ajustable. with aplay there is no sound hearable. does somone have a advice for me?
[22:37] <vitimiti> bye
[22:38] <dr_willis> dave101010: some themes are in the repos. and webupd8 site has a nice selection on their ppa
[22:38] <baboon_> Hi guys could anyone help me with a script for bash? i made a little mistake i think but i cant find it
[22:39] <chipdalf> baboon_: a long and complicated one?
[22:39] <baboon_> http://pastebin.com/7GZKQH3Y i would like to search for the todo.txt file systemwide on all users if the file exist it needs to  show it in the bash otherwise a little error message
[22:39] <baboon_> not really chipdalf
[22:39] <baboon_> i'm overlooking something
[22:41] <baboon_> chipdalf:  i'm not sure about the $HOME part. it needs to search for the todo.txt file in the users homefolder :P
[22:41] <dr_willis> $Home is the curtent users home
[22:42] <OerHeks> locate "todo.txt"
[22:42] <chipdalf> baboon_: me too, but i cannot tell you what disturbes me...
[22:43] <nahuel_> please the dir of spanish chanel , thanks
[22:43] <mickster04> bab add " around the =<this bit>
[22:43] <mickster04> !sp
[22:44] <OerHeks> !es
[22:46] <fede54879> hi
[22:46] <fede54879> could someone help me to configure noip2 to redirect dynamic ip address to static ip?
[22:47] <dr_willis> !info noip2
[22:48] <newroad> hullo all. I'm having an issue where it seems that sound through headphones seems to be playing without any bass. What could cause that?
[22:49] <sasvirco> newroad: do you have bass if you use them with other devices
[22:49] <newroad> yep
[22:49] <newroad> and bass through the computer speakers sounds good...
[22:50] <fede54879> i know
[22:50] <fede54879> i have compiled and installed it
[22:50] <b14d3> newroad: Have you plugged other headphones into that same jack, and have you plugged those headphones into another device?
[22:50] <m_tadeu> hi...where can I find the file libavcodec/avcodec.h?
[22:50] <baboon_> chipdalf:  nvm got it working :P
[22:51] <b14d3> Ignore the second part of my question newroad
[22:51] <daw_> dr_w download noip2 for noip website
[22:51] <sasvirco> newroad: you might check with some equilizer software whether your bass is lowered
[22:51] <b14d3> I misread sasvirco's
[22:51] <mdjsjdqe> good morning
[22:52] <daw_> the instruction to install and config it is in the README file
[22:52] <mdjsjdqe> i  wake up
[22:52] <daw_> I done it the other day
[22:52] <sasvirco> newroad: there seems to be a package called pulseaudio-equilizer, but it's not a part of the standard distro
[22:52] <newroad> sasvicro, is there some equalizer in ubuntu that I don't know about?
[22:52] <Zini> Hello, does someone here use Unison through ssh ? I would like to backup from server1 to server2, and doing it by connecting on server2 with none root user. Is this possible ? because I cant find the correct command...
[22:52] <chipdalf> baboon_: and what was the problem?
[22:53] <newroad> I don't have another pair of headphone with me, but i'm pretty sure that isn't the problem
[22:53] <newroad> E: Unable to locate package pulseaudio-equilizer
[22:55] <acil> what can i do now.. i set the disk drive, in the boot order up..but my pc is still not booting it
[22:55] <baboon_> chipdalf: i replaced $HOME with  /home/$USER
[22:55] <baboon_> ;p
[22:57] <newroad> it looks like that equalizer makes it worse
[22:57] <newroad> if I apply it, it sounds that huge ranges of the sound disappear
[22:57] <johnjacobjingle> hey all... interesting problem... i'm using ubuntu 12.04 and i notice that when i go to right click on my filesystem to get the total disk space... it seems to say that my hard drive is 141TB in size
[22:57] <johnjacobjingle> that is not correct
[22:58] <johnjacobjingle> i only have a 1TB drive in the machine
[22:58] <fede54879> i am very confused right now
[22:58] <newroad> actually
[22:58] <johnjacobjingle> so why is it off??
[22:58] <newroad> I just tried another headset, and that makes it even worse
[23:00] <newroad> b14d3
[23:00] <newroad> must be a driver issue?
[23:00] <sasvirco> newroad: if you max 50,100 and 156 Hz lets say, do you get bass?
[23:02] <newroad> sasvicro, even with those maxed, there is literally no bass
[23:02] <newroad> almost no sound at all with the equalizer enabled.
[23:03] <sasvirco> newroad: your normal speakers are stereo or you have subwoofer?
[23:03] <newroad> normal speakers have a subwoofer
[23:03] <sasvirco> newroad: that might be the problem, what do you have on System > Preferences > Sound > Hardware Tab
[23:05] <tizizi> Hi, I just got a windows 8 pc (it's an horror). I'd like to install Ubuntu but the del key does nothing when I restart the computer (an HP pavilion). I changed the USB port of the keyboard to no avail. Any help would be appreciated .
[23:05] <ubh> hi all!
[23:06] <sasvirco> tizizi: try F2 or F8
[23:06] <alimj> tizizi: And sometimes F12
[23:06] <newroad> Built-in Audio 1 Output 1 Input
[23:06] <newroad> Analog Stereo Duplex
[23:06] <ubh> Why Ubuntu isn-t loading after installing on Lenovo B570e2?
[23:06] <SolarisBoy> are the arguments interpreted by the kernel documented in manpages or some other format? for instance nomodeset, nodma, debug, vga=xxx etc, so e.g. for the kernel running on my system now is that documented in a man page?
[23:06] <rocky__> hello guys
[23:07] <ubh> Installation goes fine but after reboor it continue to boot into FreeDOS! O.o
[23:07] <ubh> *reboot
[23:07] <tizizi> Thanks, I'm going to try that.
[23:08] <sasvirco> newroad: my guess will be if you have 2.1 (with subwoofer) the bass goes to the subwoofer and when you connect with your stereo headphones you don't get the bass
[23:08] <rocky__> in ubuntu 12.10 unity, ocassionaly tab opens to run command, this is annoying do we what is the shortcut key for this, i would like to disable it
[23:08] <dr_willis> you installed freedos?
[23:08] <ubh> dr_willis:  it shipped with it
[23:08] <vadi2> I'm having my USC and apport keep crashing on debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo(). If there any fix for this?>
[23:09] <newroad> sasvicro, that sounds right.
[23:09] <newroad> how could i fix that?
[23:09] <SolarisBoy> think i found it - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:10] <rocky__> in ubuntu 12.10 unity, ocassionaly tab opens to run command, this is annoying do we what is the shortcut key for this, i would like to disable it
[23:11] <SolarisBoy> i dont see root= there though is there a more full list?
[23:13] <sasvirco> newroad: how many places to connect your headphones do you have?
[23:14] <rocky__> in ubuntu 12.10 unity, ocassionaly tab opens to run command, this is annoying do we what is the shortcut key for this, i would like to disable it
[23:14] <dr_willis> rocky__:  you mean the tab key?
[23:15] <rocky__> dr_willis, probably where we run commands
[23:15] <newroad> sasvicro, just one
[23:16] <newroad> its a port that handles mic and output
[23:16] <PJSingh5000> rocky__ pressing the tab key does not open the run command on my machine.  Hower, pressing "ALT" does.
[23:16] <sasvirco> newroad: on System > Preferences > Sound > Hardware Tab on Build-in-Audio device there is Profile dropdown menu on bottom, is it set to Stereo
[23:16] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, yes its alt
[23:17] <rocky__> it is very annoying since i have to press alt combination of keys
[23:17] <rocky__> and it opens
[23:17] <PJSingh5000> That can be changed...  You can set it from Compiz Settings Manager.
[23:17] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, That can be changed...  You can set it from Compiz Settings Manager.
[23:17] <dr_willis> taping alt quickly brings up the dash....
[23:17] <dr_willis> thats a feature
[23:17] <CrazyZurfer> which is the best irc chat client in your opinion? I don't like xchat :S
[23:18] <Pici> !best
[23:18] <newroad> Profile is Audio Stereo Duplex
[23:18] <dr_willis> CrazyZurfer:  dpends on your needs. xchat works well
[23:18] <newroad> sasvicro* Analog Steo Duplex*
[23:19] <newroad> I can also select Analog Stereo Output, which seems about the same
[23:19] <CrazyZurfer> which one do you use?
[23:19] <fede54879> hi
[23:20] <PJSingh5000> dr_willis, quite right about ALT being a "feature".  However, should rocky__ wish to disable it the steps are as follows.
[23:20] <fede54879> i want to thank to all who help me with my ip address problem
[23:20] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, please let know steps
[23:20] <fede54879> i have done
[23:20] <fede54879> it is working perfectly right now
[23:20] <icambridge_> I'm trying to install golang-weekly however when I do apt-get install golang-weekly it uses golang instead any ideas on how I can get golang-weekly?
[23:20] <johanne_> Hey! I got some problems installing the nvidia drivers in ubuntu 12.10. After installing and rebooting, the Unity bar disappear and the resolution is somethink like 800*600
[23:20] <dr_willis> PJSingh5000: at least he learned its not the tab key...  ;-)
[23:21] <fede54879> bekks yo were right i was doing something wrong in network manager
[23:21] <fede54879> thank you all
[23:22] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, Install CCSM using $ sudo apt-get --yes install compizconfig-settings-manager (or fro mthe Software Center).  Then launch it by typing ccsm in Ubuntu search bar.  Look for and select "Ubuntu Unity Plugin"  There you will see the option for "Key to show the HUD."  Just disable or change that.
[23:22] <sasvirco> newroad: i'm out of ideas :-)
[23:22] <PJSingh5000> dr_willis, ;)
[23:22] <ryuguns> Is it possible to only allow certain applications to use a webcam on your system?
[23:22] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, is it different from the keyboard shortcuts standard
[23:23] <newroad> damn
[23:23] <tizizi> Hey guys, F12 worked, I modified the boot sequence and was able to boot with an Ubuntu CD. Thanks a lot :)
[23:24] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, if you press and HOLD the "Super" key (this is the key with a windows logo on it, on most keyboards), you will see the list of Ubuntu Unity shortcuts.  "ALT" is the default shortcut in Unity for the "run" command.
[23:24] <dr_willis> ryuguns: perhaps certain users.. unless apparmour has the feature
[23:26] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, can't it be disabled without installing the compiz
[23:26] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, i mean thru shortcuts didn't find it's name
[23:26] <sasvirco> newroad: actually one last, could you try alsamixer and see whether some channel is muted
[23:26] <newroad> yes!
[23:26] <newroad> it says Bass Speaker 00
[23:27] <newroad> BUT i can't turn it up
[23:27] <sasvirco> newroad: go with the arrow keys on it and press M
[23:27] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, you already have Compiz installed.  That is what makes Unity work.  As for Compiz Settings Manager, I ~guess~ it could be done through a different tool (like gconf-editor or dconf-tools) , but I wouldn't know know the correct path to the setting value.
[23:28] <newroad> that mutes and unmutes it
[23:28] <newroad> but it won't let me turn it up
[23:28] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, on a separate note how would i scroll up to see your message in Chat
[23:29] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, it depends on the chat client you are using.  I am using the default Empathy client.  I use the scroll wheel on my mouse.  Also, I use the scroll "grab handle" to click and scroll the window up.
[23:30] <sasvirco> newroad: you still have the headphones connected right?
[23:30] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, ok
[23:30] <style__> hello - i installed postfix-dovecot, now i can receive mails but don't know how to use the server in mozilla thunderbird, does anyone know what i have to do?
[23:31] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, if you want to install Compiz Settings Manager, launch the Software Center from the Launcher (the bar on the left side of the wscreen).  Type ans search for "Compiz Settings Manager" and install it.
[23:31] <newroad> sasvicro it is the same with or without headphones connected
[23:32] <sasvirco> newroad: but probably not the same if you connect your subwoofer, that sounds like it
[23:32] <newroad> if I connect my subwoofer? huh? the subwoofer is internal to my laptop
[23:34] <hkdnl> I am having problems writing to my serial device in ubuntu
[23:35] <hkdnl> It seems that reading is no problem , but my character do not seem to get through
[23:35] <sasvirco> newroad: I thought you said you have external speakers with subwoofer
[23:35] <hkdnl> I already added myself to the group dialout
[23:35] <gener1c> dim using 11.10 oniric , thinking of upgrading via apt-get to raring, should i pass on that due to chances for ruining my install?
[23:35] <newroad> they laptop has a built in subwoofer
[23:35] <hkdnl> my serial device is on /dev/ttyACM0 anybody has some good tips ?
[23:36] <newroad> that is a dedicated speaker
[23:36] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, where are the shortcuts in compiz to disbale
[23:36] <newroad> unfortunately i've gotta run
[23:36] <newroad> but thanks sasvicro
[23:36] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, Did you install Compiz-Settings Manager?  Are you running it now?
[23:36] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, yes
[23:38] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, in the "Filter" text box on the top left, type "Unity".  Then you will see "Ubuntu Unity Plugin".  Just ckick on that.  It has a purple circle with the letter "u" in it.
[23:38] <sasvirco> newroad: I actually found on internet a lot of people with your problem and no visible resolution ;)
[23:39] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, thank you this helped
[23:39] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, now this annoying tab won't come everytime i press alt
[23:40] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, Great!
[23:41] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, just BE CAREFUL when using Compiz Settings Manager.  You could mess up your system.  I would just uninstall it from your Software Center right now, to prevent any accidtal usage in the future.  If you need it again, you can always reinstall it.
[23:42] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, ok i used to use it to enable effects
[23:42] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, now i don't use it often even i forgot
[23:42] <PJSingh5000> rocky__, Ha Ha.  Ok.
[23:43] <balazs> hi. Is anybody experiencing problems with dual monitors after the latest updates ?
[23:43] <gener1c> dim using 11.10 oniric , thinking of upgrading via apt-get to raring, should i pass on that due to chances for ruining my install?
[23:43] <balazs> on 12.04. I can only get one of the monitors work at a time, whichever has the launcher...
[23:44] <rocky__> PJSingh5000, can you share your email address
[23:44] <Ghostly> any one know how to remove defective launchers from ubuntu 12.04 (gnome 3 interface).. i recently removed java from my system but for some reason the application still appears in my list (with an missing icon) and all i get is failure to launch said program -.-
[23:44] <PJSingh5000> I asked this question earlier, but will post it again if someone knows the answer... Even though I selected a wallpaper from the "Pictures" folder in my home directory, LightDM does not show the wallpaper on the login screen.  This used to work yesterday.  It stopped working today.  Has anyone experienced this?  I am on Ubuntu 12.10.
[23:45] <PJSingh5000> Ghostly, try looking under ~/.local/share for the shortcut to "Java"
[23:45] <PJSingh5000> Ghostly, if you find it there, you can just delet it.
[23:46] <Evil_Eric> im on 12.04 and when i loged into this morning my walpaper was gone also
[23:47] <Evil_Eric> thanks pj
[23:47] <PJSingh5000> Evil_Eric, did you update your Linux kernel to 3.5.0-21-generic, by any chance?  That is what I did.
[23:47] <Evil_Eric> hold on
[23:47] <Ghostly> PJSingh5000, ahha thanks ill try that
[23:48] <Evil_Eric> 3.2.35 is what kernal im on
[23:48] <MikeEnIke> What other IRC channels do you guys sit in?
[23:48] <Pici> MikeEnIke: #ubuntu-offtopic is our social channel :)
[23:49] <MikeEnIke> Good to know
[23:49] <PJSingh5000> Evil_Eric, Well hold on... I am experiencing the problem you are.  My wallpaper is also missing from the login screen.  The only thing I did was update the Linux kernel.  I was proposing that the kernel update may have caused the problem.  But you are saying you did not update your Kernel.  So that eliminates the kernel update as a potential cause.
[23:50] <PJSingh5000> Evil_Eric, wow, you are really behind on the kernel version.  However, that may not be the culprit.  I tried changing permissions on the wallpaper file, but that did not help.  This is a little thing, but it is driving me nuts as to why it isn't working???
[23:54] <Evil_Eric> thats funny cause i updated my kernal just yesterday what you gotta understand is that im on 12.04 not 12.10
[23:54] <drRocktopus> EVENING :)  Having an SSH problem --> ok inside router on NAT, "permission denied" from outside router, port 22 forwarded to machine's NAT IP…. wondering if anyone has any suggestions
[23:56] <Evil_Eric> move to dmz
[23:56] <YuriRev01> how would i make it so im the only one that has access to read write on ssh?
[23:57] <bjrohan> How do I force my lpatop to keep the wifi connection active when I log out?
[23:57] <PJSingh5000> Evil_Eric, Yes.  I figured that.  By the way, I was on 12.04 up until last week.  I tried 12.10 when it came out.  Unity was horribly slow, so I went back to 12.04 LTS.  However, I read somewhere, that 12.10 updates had remedied some of the "slowness."  So I tried 12.10, and it is about as quick as 12.04.  So I am on the latest version.  Perhaps you were not upgrading for the same reason?
[23:58] <mickster04> ubottu: log in rights?
[23:58] <mickster04> woops
[23:58] <mickster04> YuriRev01: log in rights?
[23:58] <Evil_Eric> i can care less honestly as long as it works
[23:59] <YuriRev01> i cannot write files to the server
[23:59] <YuriRev01> and i want to have it set so only i can access. i use openssh