[01:15] <somedude> Does xubuntu work for windows 8? I have the CD in and it's not recognizing it as anything.
[01:22] <GridCube> !uefi
[01:22] <GridCube> great
[01:23] <GridCube> somedude, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:40] <OnAMac> Does anyone know if xubuntu will boot on a mac?
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> como estan camaradas
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> una pregunta
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> que nesesito para ejecutar un archivo
[03:41] <OnAMac> I'm trying to get the LiveCD to boot on a mac.
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> soy nuevo en linux
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> instale xubuntu
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> y nesesito ayuda
[03:41] <OnAMac> No entiendo
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> bueni mira
[03:41] <Al3x4nd3r> instake xubuntu
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> pero en youtube no puedo ver video
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> por el flash player
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> me lo baje
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> pero no se que usar para instalarlo
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> ocmoo como instalarlo
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> para que funcione
[03:42] <Al3x4nd3r> el flash player
[03:43] <Unit193> !es
[03:43] <Al3x4nd3r> no se si me falta un gestor de archivos o con que aplicancion ejecutarlos repito soy nuevo  en linux
[03:43] <Al3x4nd3r> tgrasias
[03:43] <Al3x4nd3r> amigo
[03:45] <Al3x4nd3r> lastiima que nadie contesta
[03:45] <Al3x4nd3r> jaja
[04:51] <random417> hi guys, I've got a question or 2 for someone... I'm trying to go with a clean install of xubuntu, but there are a few things I want to keep...
[04:52] <random417> I'm trying to keep stuff like music and stuff, but I don't have seperate partitions, and one of the reasons I decided to do this is I can't seem to download packages anymore
[04:52] <random417> Is this possible?
[04:54] <XRS1> save your home folder
[04:55] <XRS1> /home/%username% is where all that stuff is. you can save that to disk, remote location or whatever
[04:55] <random417> do I have to create a new partition for it then?
[04:56] <XRS1> in the future you will want to do
[04:56] <XRS1> that*
[04:56] <random417> yeah, I read that when I was researching this... so there's no way to create a partition on the fly to dump it into?
[04:57] <XRS1> for now your kind of in a pickle.. you can use a live disk to erase all files and folders except /home (CTRL + H to show hidden stuff)
[04:57] <XRS1> you could resize the partition and put it there
[04:57] <XRS1> that could take a while
[04:58] <XRS1> depending on how much data n free space, that might be the fastest way
[04:59] <XRS1> gparted -> resize current partition then create a new one and copy /home/*
[04:59] <random417> I don't have gparted, and synaptic isn't working for some reason
[05:00] <XRS1> oh yeah... they remove that by default i forgot.. (i've been bitching about that)
[05:00] <random417> seems like anything that needs a password isn't working
[05:00] <XRS1> make a live USB or DVD/CD that will have gparted
[05:00] <random417> I haven't tried by command line yet, hang on
[05:01] <random417> that'll work, I've got the one I'm gonna use for the install, thanks
[05:01] <XRS1> yup
[05:02] <XRS1> hey you might be able to help me
[05:03] <random417> how's that?
[05:04] <XRS1> when you installing, come in and let me know if there is an on screen keyboard
[05:04] <random417> there wasn't the last install I did, but I'll look,  when I get to it
[05:05] <XRS1> k
[05:05] <random417> I've gotta make my re-download list real quick
[05:05] <random417> also, does gparted ask for a password to run?
[05:06] <XRS1> yeah
[05:06] <XRS1> but not in the live installer
[05:06] <random417> nothing that asks for a password is running, although I did manage to download it through command line
[05:06] <random417> I was hoping to repartition from here, but I guess not
[05:07] <XRS1> if you cant sudo or su, yeah you need a live disk
[05:07] <XRS1> i've been there
[05:07] <random417> there we go, if I launch through terminal, it works
[05:25] <tecsun> hi
[05:25] <XRS1> hi
[05:25] <tecsun> I'm new to xubuntu.
[05:26] <XRS1> welcome
[05:26] <tecsun> I'm trying to do link aggregation with PowerConnect 6224 now. But can't get it work.
[05:27] <tecsun> running on ubuntu 12.10
[05:27] <XRS1> whats going on? no connectivity?
[05:27] <tecsun> I can get the bonding up and running, but can't ping to router and other workstation on the same network mask
[05:28] <XRS1> O_o
[05:29] <XRS1> im not personally familiar with the device. best i can do is refur you to them:  https://marketing.dell.com/le-contact-dell-pp
[05:30] <tecsun> I see.. ok.. will try to get in touch with them. but could it be the problem inside my ubuntu?
[05:30] <tecsun> I check the bonding by going into /proc/net/bonding/
[05:31] <tecsun> and from there I see all are up... is that correct way to check the bonding?
[05:31] <tecsun> I'm afraid I did not configure it properly since I"m quite new to Ubuntu
[05:32] <XRS1> out of the box, if it connected, its working. but you might try the forums. im not exactly the most qualified to help
[05:33] <tecsun> I see.. alright, will try forum. Anyway, thanks a lot
[06:25] <crazyzurfer> Since I installed Xubuntu, I cant execute .sh files by double clicking them :S
[06:26] <heoyea_> enable permissions
[06:30] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: already did that (perimission +x)
[06:30] <XRS1> right click and allow running in terminal?
[06:30] <crazyzurfer> When I right click, appears execute, nothing happens
[06:31] <XRS1> the app does require elevated permission?
[06:31] <XRS1> doesn't*
[06:31] <crazyzurfer> nope
[06:31] <crazyzurfer> before installing xubuntu It worked
[06:32] <crazyzurfer> i mean with normal ubuntu
[06:32] <laite> crazyzurfer: are they on external, mounted volume? are you sure that it's set with 'exec' property in fstab
[06:32] <laite> ^ this is what I battled with at some point for a long time :P
[06:32] <crazyzurfer> laite: nope, they aren't... what is fstab?
[06:33] <laite> oh, if you don't know, you propably needn't to meddle with it; it's an automatic mount file for systems on bootup
[06:33] <crazyzurfer> but it's not exteral
[06:33] <crazyzurfer> it's in my documents folder
[06:36] <crazyzurfer> it works if I use the terminal window sudo bash filename.sh
[06:37] <XRS1> hmm... hes right, havent messed with it but my 12.10 isnt launching them either
[06:38] <crazyzurfer> On ubuntu it works good, but in xubuntu, it doesn't
[06:38] <crazyzurfer> pretty weird
[06:38] <crazyzurfer> XRS1: so.. it seems as an OS bug?
[06:39] <XRS1> xfce bug, im running Ubuntu Studio
[06:55] <XRS1> your not running live?
[06:55] <XRS1> mine wont exec because my hard drive is USB
[06:56] <XRS1> zequence in #ubuntustudio might be able to help
[07:05] <crazyzurfer> XRS1: I'm not :/
[07:06] <heoyea_> ?
[07:08] <heoyea_> oh a sudo script?
[07:08] <heoyea_> wont run unless u have root
[07:08] <XRS1> .sh files only exec from shell not from mouseclick
[07:08] <XRS1> no sudo req.
[07:09] <heoyea_> u can run it from a mouse click also
[07:09] <heoyea_> u just wont see it
[07:09] <heoyea_> it will in the background process
[07:10] <heoyea_> but thats usually not how u run a script
[07:10] <XRS1> no its supposed to exec with gui
[07:11] <heoyea_> depends on the script
[07:11] <XRS1> but its crazyzurfer  with the issue. mines fine i just need to modify fstab
[07:11] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: Ubuntu runs the script by opening the terminal and executing it (I see when it happens)
[07:12] <crazyzurfer> but xubuntu doesn't
[07:12] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: is that normal?
[07:12] <heoyea_> crazyzurfer: depends on ur file manager
[07:13] <heoyea_> some has the popup to give u options some dont
[07:13] <heoyea_> but if is a script with permission
[07:13] <heoyea_> it will execute in the background
[07:13] <crazyzurfer> which file manager does ubuntu uses?, changes the default file manager with xubuntu?
[07:13] <heoyea_> uses nautilus
[07:14] <heoyea_> xfce uses thunar
[07:14] <XRS1> xubuntu should be using thunar i thought
[07:14] <XRS1> 12.04.1 worked fine
[07:14] <XRS1> oh wait... i keep forgetting my HDD is USB  >_<
[07:15] <heoyea_> doesnt matter wat ur hdd is
[07:16] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: Thanks, that was usefull. Why does xubuntu uses tunar instead of nautilus?
[07:16] <heoyea_> yea
[07:16] <crazyzurfer> do you know why?
[07:16] <XRS1> thunar is lightweight
[07:16] <XRS1> xubuntu is a lightweight distro
[07:17] <heoyea_> nautilus is made for Gnome
[07:17] <heoyea_> but u can install it on xfce also if u wish
[07:18] <heoyea_> not sure why u going to all of this just for a script
[07:18] <XRS1> quick access
[07:19] <XRS1> "all this" = he just asked
[07:19] <heoyea_> quick access would be to use a terminal
[07:19] <heoyea_> like guake
[07:20] <XRS1> i like clicking on icons sometimes
[07:21] <heoyea_> try out a drop down terminal
[07:21] <heoyea_> then ull be faster
[07:23] <XRS1> once again, this issue is not mine
[07:23] <XRS1> but i agree, he should be able to double click n run an app if he wants
[07:23] <XRS1> script
[07:24] <heoyea_> his script is running just without a terminal
[07:24] <crazyzurfer> he knows
[07:24] <crazyzurfer> lol
[07:24] <crazyzurfer> he understands me
[07:25] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: any way to run it but with terminal? because the scritp asks me some things to run, and I need to tell it the parameters
[07:25] <heoyea_> i dont know what ur script does
[07:26] <heoyea_> if u want to run arguments
[07:26] <heoyea_> u have to write it into the script
[07:27] <heoyea_> especially if ur gonna run it with a double click
[07:27] <crazyzurfer> yup, that's why I need to see the terminal window
[07:27] <crazyzurfer> and sometimes I've to run the script fast, so.. I've it in the desktop
[07:28] <heoyea_> yea then u can tell ur script to open a terminal
[07:28] <crazyzurfer> if i want to execute it fast by using the terminal I have to go to the folder (cd), then executing it with sudo bash... and it's slower than double clicking it in the desktop
[07:28] <crazyzurfer> heoyea_: how can I do that
[07:28] <heoyea_> lols
[07:28] <heoyea_> nah man learn how to use bashrc
[07:29] <heoyea_> then ull c is super fast
[07:29] <heoyea_> no wonder u think is slow
[07:29] <heoyea_> cuz u doing it manually
[07:30] <heoyea_> go learn bashrc, bash alias and functions
[07:30] <heoyea_> is pretty easy
[07:41] <crazyzurfer> I dont want the script to execute everytime I log in
[07:41] <Maccer> Hrm? What's going on?
[07:41] <baizon> crazyzurfer: put it into session and startup
[07:41] <Maccer> Do you want the script to execute under a certain condition?
[07:42] <Maccer> (I have no context)
[07:42] <crazyzurfer> I DON'T want to execute it everytime I log in
[07:42] <baizon> crazyzurfer: a ok
[07:42] <baizon> then when?
[07:43] <crazyzurfer> Maccer: nope, I want the terminal to appear when I double click on a bash file using tunar --> it works using nautilus (default file manager in ubuntu -- Tunar is from xubuntu)
[07:44] <crazyzurfer> because as heoyea said it executes but in background
[07:45] <Maccer> Oh I see. Not sure if that's in thunar, let me see if I can find out.
[07:46] <Maccer> At first glance, I would have left it out by design, but then I realized it could behave like Windows made it.
[07:46] <Maccer> You also want it to execute silently, no?
[07:47] <crazyzurfer> nope
[07:47] <crazyzurfer> I want to see the terminal window
[07:48] <Maccer> Gotcha. Let me see if I can find something to reproduce it with.
[07:48] <crazyzurfer> I you open nautilus and double click it.. it asks if you want to run it in a terminal window, and it opens the terminal windows and executes the file
[07:49] <crazyzurfer> but thunar doesn't appear to be doing anything, doesn't even ask. Heoyea says the script starts but in background (silent)
[07:50] <Maccer> Well, if you want a fancy friendly UI, that could require a script. :P
[07:50] <Maccer> But just executing the script by double clicking on it is possible.
[07:51] <Maccer> I got it to work without a fancy UI by setting "Terminal Emulator" (which is just exo-open)
[07:51] <Maccer> But you still need to chmod +x your file.
[07:51] <Maccer> (Or give it executable permission)
[07:52] <Maccer> If you can't find terminal emulator, just use custom command and add: "exo-open"
[07:52] <crazyzurfer> Don't know if you understood me
[07:52] <crazyzurfer> I already gave it +x permission
[07:52] <crazyzurfer> works good with nautilus
[07:52] <Maccer> Yeah, and I'm telling you how I got it to work on Thunar just now.
[07:53] <crazyzurfer> I've got a script on desktop
[07:53] <crazyzurfer> ah
[07:53] <crazyzurfer> yeah
[07:53] <crazyzurfer> background
[07:53] <Maccer> The terminal also exits when the script is finished if you like that behavior.
[07:54] <crazyzurfer> I want the terminal to open and execute my script, the same as how it works in nautilus
[07:54] <crazyzurfer> by double clicking it on the folder
[07:55] <Maccer> Oh, so you probably want it open after the results... hrm, wait.
[07:56] <crazyzurfer> nope
[07:56] <crazyzurfer> before
[07:56] <crazyzurfer> because I've to give it the parameters and I cant if I don't see the terminal window
[07:57] <crazyzurfer> exo open migth work
[07:57] <crazyzurfer> how can I do that
[07:57] <Maccer> Ah no I was asking if you wanted it to be alive after the script finished.
[07:58] <crazyzurfer> Aps
[07:58] <crazyzurfer> so... Do you know what could I do?
[07:58] <crazyzurfer> or what I want to do
[07:58] <Maccer> Right click on a .sh script -> Open with -> Other Application -> Find an app. called: "Terminal Emulator" (not the same as Terminal) -> Check Use as default for this kind of file -> Open
[08:00] <crazyzurfer> okay, that seems better
[08:00] <crazyzurfer> but doesn't work when I double click it
[08:01] <crazyzurfer> I works by right click, open with -> terminal emulator
[08:01] <crazyzurfer> almost now I've that option
[08:01] <Maccer> Did you check "Use as default for this kind of file"?
[08:01] <Maccer> Hrm, second...
[08:01] <Maccer> I seem to be getting that issue too.
[08:01] <crazyzurfer> yup
[08:02] <Guest87327> Say, I have been searching for some esoteric tools for remapping my keyboard in linux and have not really found anyway, perhaps someone can help
[08:02] <Guest87327> any way you can make linux register key A being pressed when I depress a key, and key B when I release it?
[08:02] <Guest87327> where A and B are any keys really
[08:03] <Guest87327> its something I used to do in windows with glovepie, very handy for some applications.
[08:03] <crazyzurfer> Maccer: It's okay, with this I'm happy :).. I haven't sleep,  It's 5 AM here and I'm very tired
[08:03] <Maccer> That's something we (I'm not part of the team) or XFCE, probably can't handle.
[08:03] <crazyzurfer> Maccer: Thanks!
[08:03] <Maccer> Guest87327: You'd have to check out some IRC channel, ##linux, or X11 forums for xinput configuration.
[08:04] <Guest87327> at this point google is failing me. Thanks, I will give those a shot.
[08:04] <heoyea_> remap to a diff key?
[08:04] <Guest87327> well, not just a straight remap
[08:05] <Maccer> Frankly they probably won't know much either, unless there's an Xlib/X11 pro in the channel.
[08:05] <Guest87327> yes, its kind of complicated in windows as well, I only found out how to do it from a few people who liked making macros for games.
[08:05] <Maccer> Key binding for key release and press is uncommon as Guest87327
[08:05] <Maccer> pointed out.
[08:06] <Maccer> Oh, well... maybe you'd need something of a macro program of some sort to do that for you too.
[08:06] <heoyea_> wat is the question then
[08:06] <heoyea_> making a macro?
[08:06] <Guest87327> yeah, and if it does not exist I am open to writing it.
[08:06] <Maccer> Summary: "How do I bind a command/script/whatever to a key, but only at a specific event like press/release."
[08:06] <Guest87327> but making a full program before checking if someone else has tried it would be a little inefficient :p
[08:07] <Maccer> With a question mark appended, of course.
[08:07] <Maccer> I think there's a python key binding library, maybe you'd like to use that.
[08:07] <heoyea_> nah
[08:07] <heoyea_> u dont need python
[08:08] <heoyea_> theres actually a cli apps
[08:08] <heoyea_> to do it
[08:08] <heoyea_> let me check the name
[08:08] <Guest87327> thank you
[08:08] <Maccer> If it can do custom actions while distinguishing PRESS/RELEASE specifically then I'd be surprised.
[08:09] <heoyea_> yea is called xte
[08:09] <heoyea_> part of the xautomation package
[08:09] <heoyea_> u can do something like this
[08:09] <heoyea_> xte 'keydown Control_L' 'keydown Alt_L' 'key D' 'keyup Control_L' 'keyup Alt_L'
[08:09] <heoyea_> if thats wat u mean
[08:10] <Guest87327> hmm, how did I not find that. I will see if it can work
[08:10] <heoyea_> hehe
[08:10] <heoyea_> well i know this cuz i used b4
[08:10] <Guest87327> actually, once I started searching for macros stuff showed up. I was just looking under the wrong phrases.
[08:11] <heoyea_> theres also xdotool
[08:11] <heoyea_> think i does the same stuff
[08:12] <heoyea_> making a cheat for games?
[08:12] <heoyea_> lols
[08:13] <Guest87327> nah, some other programs
[08:13] <heoyea_> in windows i uses macro express
[08:13] <heoyea_> was a simple gui
[08:13] <Guest87327> I don't really play games much, and starcraft is not the best game to cheat at with macros.
[08:14] <heoyea_> yea u can make it pump the units
[08:14] <heoyea_> but still u need skills to win
[08:15] <Guest87327> I would honestly just find scripts distracting, starcraft uses so many keys and combinations already. Adding some more highly specific functionality would not make me better unless it would to something really great like spread my units out.
[08:15] <Guest87327> and anyway, cheating ftl, right?
[08:16] <heoyea_> just depends on what u cheating
[09:05] <VividReality> Hey there, is it a known issue that Skype 4.1 and Spotify for Linux can't be installed at the same time?
[09:11] <VividReality> I can't find anything on google
[10:27] <killer> is there any tool like gnome-core-devel for xfce4
[15:55] <chaosmonkey417> Hi, so I've got a question for someone... I'm debating a fresh xubuntu install, I've currently got vanilla ubuntu 11.10, with lots of the xubuntu stuff kind of kludged on, figure it'll run smoother
[15:56] <chaosmonkey417> the problem, is I always try a new release out on a live cd (well, usb) before I install, and my touchpad doesn't work under the live drive, so I'm wary of installing and loosing touchpad support
[15:56] <chaosmonkey417> it's a toshiba nb505, and it SHOULD be supported, but...
[16:04] <TheSheep> chaosmonkey417: if it doesn't work on the livecd, there is a high chance that it won't when installed, so you'd better find a fix for that before installing
[16:04] <nantou> i need tips to bind several jpg files into a big pdf file
[16:07] <TheSheep> nantou: I think you can convert to pdf with imagemagick or ghostscript and then join them with pdfunite
[16:08] <chaosmonkey417> I figured that, it looks like it isn't detected at all, when I run xinput list under my current system, it lists ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad         	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[16:08] <chaosmonkey417> but under the live cd, nothing that remotely looks like a touchpad
[16:09] <chaosmonkey417> I'd have to log out and back in under it to get a full reading
[16:09] <chaosmonkey417> thoughts on where to start?
[16:16] <chaosmonkey417> or does someone need the 'xinput list' output under the live cd?
[16:34] <qasim> hi all
[16:39] <qasim> TheSheep, i changed the settings of alsa mixer..i can record clips now through voice recorder....still there is  mic settings problem when i try to skype...
[16:39] <qasim> should i reinstall skype?
[16:40] <TheSheep> qasim: resinstalling will not help
[16:41] <TheSheep> maybe there is some info on the wiki, hmm
[16:41] <TheSheep> !skype
[16:41] <qasim> right
[16:41] <qasim> let me chk
[16:41] <qasim> thx
[16:41] <TheSheep> qasim: see 'selecting microphone' at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeTroubleshooting
[16:41] <qasim> okay..
[16:42] <TheSheep> (except xubuntu already has pavucontrol installed)
[17:04] <chaosmonkey417> hmmmm.... not to be rude, but bump :)
[17:04] <chaosmonkey417> ubuntu 11.10 touchpad works fine, but under xubuntu 12.04 live disk, no touchpad.
[17:07] <chaosmonkey417> oh, sorry, I forgot, I settled on the 12.10
[17:13] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: your touchpad doesnt work?
[17:13] <chaosmonkey417> yeah
[17:14] <chaosmonkey417> works under my current install, vanilla ubuntu 11.10, but running the livecd of xubuntu 12.10, absolutely nothing
[17:14] <holstein> i would look for and apply all upgrades..
[17:15] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: if it used to work, there is a decent chance you can reimplement support for it
[17:16] <chaosmonkey417> the upgrades don't seem to want to install under the live disk, and I'm kinda afraid to install until I know it'll work
[17:17] <chaosmonkey417> is there something I have to do to allow the installs on the flash drive? will I need to set it up again?
[17:17] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: i wouldnt live in fear.. its a computer after all.. backup your current install and/or data... that hard disk *will* fail, so creating a proper backup is nt a waste of time.. then install 12.04 or 12.10 and test
[17:17] <chaosmonkey417> fair enough
[17:17] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: on the flash drive?
[17:17] <chaosmonkey417> I wanted to get it working on the flash drive before I installed
[17:18] <holstein> working on the fash drive?
[17:18] <chaosmonkey417> I don't have much important on here, but I can't back it up, so I wanted to be sure that it worked first
[17:18] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: you have a usb flash drive? or an sd card? or a interinal ssd?
[17:18] <holstein> internal*
[17:18] <chaosmonkey417> usb
[17:18] <holstein> you can install to  whatver you choose
[17:18] <holstein> sometimes i take the hard drive out so i dont "mess it up"
[17:19] <chaosmonkey417> the plan, once it's working is to dual boot, then move the files over to the new os, and repartition
[17:19] <chaosmonkey417> I screwed up and didn't make a /home partition
[17:19] <holstein> you only need to copy that data somewhere
[17:20] <holstein> having a seperate /home is convenient.. not mandatory
[17:21] <chaosmonkey417> I don't have any other storage other than this lappy though, so I'll need a seperate partition so as to not loose everything with the fresh install, yes?
[17:25] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: the hard drives you are using *will* fail.. and you will lose whatever is not backed up at that time
[17:26] <holstein> having your /home on a separate driver or partition doesnt make this loss of data less impending
[17:26] <holstein> drive*
[17:26] <chaosmonkey417> well, yes, eventually, I was just hoping to get through the install without loosing things
[17:26] <holstein> this only makes it easier if you are reinstalling
[17:27] <holstein> however, some things in the .config sometimes doesnt work when upgrading
[17:27] <chaosmonkey417> If my drive fails, I'd don't really have another computer anyway
[17:27] <holstein> what do i do? i back up my data seperately and i actually usually just do one partition insatlls
[17:28] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: its not "if" your drive fails.. its *when*
[17:28] <chaosmonkey417> ok, so I might be able to get the touchpad running if I install the dual boot, but I'll need to run the updates to see?
[17:28] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: and the partitioning shceme has nothing to do with that
[17:29] <holstein> what i am saying is.. rolling through reinstalls with a seperate /home is not more secure.. you should still have a backup
[17:30] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: you can always make your own kernel and include support for whatever hardware you choose
[17:30] <chaosmonkey417> lol, too much work for me
[17:31] <holstein> what would i do? i would share my model # here and other channels.. i would google "ubuntu 12.04 my computer model" and look for links
[17:31] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: im just saying, there is always a way
[17:31] <holstein> its all open... anyway, i would install and apply upgades and test and go from there
[17:33] <chaosmonkey417> and I know I'll eventually loose my stuff when my drive fails, but I don't have much in the way of offsite storage options
[17:34] <holstein> chaosmonkey417: im am only suggesting that trying to hang on to your current install and config without backup is unrealistic.. you can get external usb drives quite cheap these days
[17:47] <nantou> i cannot find the ubuntuone icon, and I haves installed the GUI
[17:47] <nantou> for it
[17:52] <netorious> hello, how can I add a program to the menu in Xubuntu 12.10?
[17:53] <GridCube> netorious, it should add itself
[17:54] <netorious> GridCube my software was installed from a zip file
[17:58] <GridCube> ok, then you can add a launcher to the panels or add a launcher to the menu using the menu editor on settings
[18:01] <netorious> oh i see now thanks
[18:07] <raytray> Is there an easy way to remove power manager from the panel?
[18:08] <GridCube> you mean you cant just remove it?
[18:10] <Catbuntu> Hi
[18:11] <raytray> I can't seem to find an option to remove it from the panel no, GridCube
[18:14] <GridCube> raytray, go to any other panel, go to >panel >panel settings then go to the third tab, elements (or items or launchers or what ever is in english) if power manager is not listed make sure that the correct panel is selected on the dropdwon menu at the top of the panel settings gui
[18:20] <raytray> GridCube, it appears to be a part of the notification area item on the list. Is there a way to remove elements from that area?
[18:20] <GridCube> raytray, im not following you
[18:21] <GridCube> what do you mean by "power manager"
[18:21] <raytray> xfce4-power-manager isn't an individual item on that list. Instead it apepars in the panel as part of notification area
[18:21] <raytray> Meaning that Notification area is the item on the panel that displays things like thunderbird, wifi, dropbox and xfce4-power-manager
[18:22] <GridCube> yes thats the plugin indicator
[18:22] <raytray> I am using a different battery indiciator plugin for my laptop and thus do not need power manager to show the indicator.
[18:23] <raytray> I found the volume indicator setting through the volume manager itself. However I am unable to find such for the power manager. I have however searched and found a way to remove it by compiling it with certain options.
[18:23] <raytray> I was wondering if there was a way to remove it without having to remove the package, and compiling another one.
[18:25] <GridCube> well you can go to >settings >settings manager >power settings >general, and change the show in notification area
[18:25] <raytray> oh jeeze, thank you very much GridCube. Not sure how I missed that one.
[18:48] <xubuntu020> I have a Pentium M Dell with 2g of ram   will Xubuntu work , I tried Ubuntu 12.04 but could not install because of kernal issue
[19:12] <_DeLa_> hi there
[19:13] <_DeLa_> I just upgraded from xubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 (clean install). If i am correct, 12.04 still features the PAE kernel. But if this is correct, why does my system only utilize 3 of my 4gb RAM?
[19:56] <ChesterX> hello everybody, is it possible to sync itunes podcasts with gmusicbrowser?
[20:46] <upload> ello
[22:07] <davidism> Is there any way to change how my scroll wheel on my wireless mouse works?  Right now it's doing a page up/down ever turn, which is pretty inconvenient.  I just want the regular +/- 3 lines
[22:21] <davidism> wait a second, unplugging then reinserting fixed it...
[22:42] <pseudonymous> Is there any convenient way of stealing xubuntu's theme ? I installed it into a VM for a friend (introducing him to the wonders of latex) and I was enamoured with the looks
[22:43] <pleia2> pseudonymous: shimmerproject.org
[22:43] <pleia2> that's where the theme comes from
[22:44] <pleia2> you want greybird
[22:46] <pseudonymous> pleia2: sweet, thanks :)
[23:11] <link0r> hi guys, i was wondering if there is a skype for xubuntu?
[23:12] <heoyea_> ye
[23:12] <link0r> version 11.10
[23:12] <heoyea_> go to skype website
[23:12] <pleia2> the ubuntu ones work fine on xubuntu
[23:12] <heoyea_> and download the deb files
[23:13] <link0r> they have version 10 and a version 12
[23:13] <link0r> and im using 11.10....which do i pick?
[23:13] <pleia2> try them out and see what works?
[23:13] <heoyea_> think they got skype in the repos also
[23:13] <heoyea_> sudo apt-get install skype
[23:15] <link0r> ok thanks just wanted 2 check
[23:15] <SkippersBoss> carefull with the work fine
[23:15] <SkippersBoss> the xubuntu version has some serious drawbax
[23:15] <SkippersBoss> drawback
[23:15] <SkippersBoss> s
[23:17]  * SkippersBoss feels that with MS now in charge skype for linux development will come to an and :-(