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| bryce | slangasek, .11 up. | 01:18 |
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| voldyman | guys i am trying to write an application that manages and draws wallpaper on the desktop. is there any documented way to doing this? | 06:08 |
| RAOF | voldyman: Depends ? | 06:14 |
| voldyman | RAOF, ?? | 06:14 |
| voldyman | RAOF, it will be written in vala. i tried gnome-settings-daemon but i couldn't find most of the functions in vapi for x11 | 06:15 |
| RAOF | voldyman: You could just frob the relevant gsettings keys and get whatever's drawing the desktop to do the drawing for you; I don't know what those keys are, though. | 06:20 |
| voldyman | RAOF, isn't there a way to draw the surface ourself. i have been looking for sometime and it isn't documented | 06:21 |
| RAOF | voldyman: You can always draw on the root window :) | 06:23 |
| voldyman | RAOF, how ? | 06:25 |
| voldyman | i have been trying to do just that | 06:25 |
| voldyman_ | RAOF, can you point me from where i can learn to draw on the root window | 06:35 |
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| RAOF | voldyman: Sorry for the delay - in C it's pretty easy, you just grab DefaultRootWindow(dpy) and then pass that through to gtk. Vala might not have the requisite stuff hooked up, though. | 07:17 |
| RAOF | voldyman: Oh, now that I think of it, unity-greeter is written in Vala, and it does some draw-to-the-root-window malarkey. Take a look at that. | 07:17 |
| voldyman | RAOF, thanks i'll take a look at unity-greeter. would you happen to have an example in C ? | 07:18 |
| RAOF | voldyman: Not off the top of my head, sorry, no. | 07:18 |
| voldyman | np. thanks a lot | 07:19 |
| RAOF | But as I say, it's as simple as dpy = XOpenDisplay(); Window = DefaultRootWindow(dpy); create_a_gtk_drawable(Window); | 07:19 |
| voldyman | RAOF, i was reading the libgnome-desktop3 they've used a very complicated method for setting the wallpaper | 07:20 |
| RAOF | They need to do funky things because they're trying to handoff from the greeter (to do a transition greeter?session) | 07:21 |
| voldyman | nope nothing like that | 07:22 |
| voldyman | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c | 07:22 |
| RAOF | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c#L1193 | 07:26 |
| RAOF | They're doing funky things because they're trying to handoff from the greeter (to do a transition greeter?session) :) | 07:27 |
| RAOF | particularly - they're setting things up so that it'll persist after the client quits | 07:28 |
| voldyman | client as in gsd? | 07:31 |
| voldyman | so when it itself quits the background should persist | 07:32 |
| RAOF | Client as in whatever; IIRC gdm uses it, too. | 07:32 |
| RAOF | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c#L1560 is basically the operative bit. | 07:32 |
| gotwig | Hey, may you help to fix me bug #1032534 ? It refers to a fault of ubuntu, to include the string unity into the translateable descriptions. I don't find the translations for the po files when I do apt-get source from jockey-gtk . | 07:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1032534 in elementary OS "Jockey refers to Unity" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032534 | 07:33 |
| RAOF | voldyman: The rest is ensuring that the Pixmap they generate doesn't die when the client dies, setting a property on the root window that they can read later, reading from that property? | 07:33 |
| gotwig | but I find the relevant strings when I search here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/jockey/+pots/jockey/de/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=unity | 07:33 |
| voldyman | RAOF, so they dont need to maintain a buffer with the wallpaper image, just get it from X | 07:34 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:03 |
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| darkxst | Sarvatt, did you ever get a chance to look at my other two ppa-purge merge requests? | 09:12 |
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| hyperair | what's "ay" in gsettings? | 14:54 |
| hyperair | i recall "a" being array | 14:54 |
| hyperair | but what's "y"? | 14:55 |
| hyperair | ah, okay, y is byte | 14:57 |
| hyperair | array of bytes. | 14:57 |
| hyperair | hmmmm | 14:57 |
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| hallyn | infinity: SpamapS: around by chance? | 18:38 |
| infinity | hallyn: I might be. | 18:38 |
| infinity | hallyn: ¿Que pasa? | 18:38 |
| hallyn | infinity: qemu-kvm SRU... | 18:38 |
| hallyn | gah, i didn't push the quantal one yet anyway... | 18:38 |
| infinity | hallyn: The one with 4 unverified bugs? | 18:39 |
| hallyn | but i'm pushed a new precise-proposed to surpass the one there now | 18:39 |
| hallyn | yeah. | 18:39 |
| hallyn | i'm verifying them today, butone is actually still bad. I just pushed a new pkg with a better fix | 18:39 |
| hallyn | oh. interesting. | 18:40 |
| hallyn | in quantal we're doing || true after modprobes. | 18:40 |
| hallyn | i'd prefer to drop those actually... but that's not for this upload | 18:43 |
| hallyn | infinity: new versions uploaded for precise-proposed and quantal-proposed. if possible to accept them that'd be great, i'll verify them today. | 18:47 |
| hallyn | (I'm pretty sure the quantal woudl verify without the new change, but i uploaded it anyway to keep behavior 100% consistent between prcise and quantal. not sur eif that's a priority or not) | 18:50 |
| infinity | hallyn: I'll look at them sometime today when I'm bored with being on holiday. ;) | 18:50 |
| hallyn | infinity: thanks - and enjoy :) | 18:51 |
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| hallyn | infinity: well, OTOH, in quantal the version already accepted checks out fine. so I could go either way, - accepting or rejecting the one i just pushed | 19:24 |
| hallyn | slangasek: on precise, udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=misc --action=change | 19:37 |
| hallyn | slangasek: does the righ tthing and fixes acls for the group. but on quantal it doesn't seem to | 19:38 |
| * hallyn lunches | 19:40 | |
| slangasek | hallyn: hrmmmm, really? | 20:01 |
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| hallyn | slangasek: yeah (unless I'm doin gsomething wrong - always a possibility) trying to verify bug 1057024; works fine in precise, not q. weird | 20:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1057024 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "kvm kernel module always loaded, without setting /dev/kvm permissions" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057024 | 20:13 |
| gotwig | where has /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/distro/Ubuntu.py moved?? | 20:16 |
| gotwig | its no more out there | 20:16 |
| infinity | gotwig: It just got lowercased. | 20:31 |
| infinity | gotwig: /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/distro/ubuntu.py | 20:31 |
| gotwig | infinity, it seems my distro just removed it... | 20:32 |
| gotwig | I use elementary Luna | 20:32 |
| gotwig | well, its based on Ubuntu | 20:32 |
| gotwig | but I can't buy paid apps. I want to fix that | 20:33 |
| gotwig | How different is Ubuntu here? | 20:33 |
| gotwig | Does it not allow, that other distros use paid apps? | 20:33 |
| infinity | I imagine you'd do better by asking the person who modified the package for Elementary. | 20:34 |
| gotwig | infinity, I don't see here elementary as the thing that caused that | 20:35 |
| gotwig | or the person | 20:35 |
| gotwig | but the software center dudes | 20:35 |
| infinity | Eh? You said that the file didn't exist on Elementary. | 20:35 |
| gotwig | I already read stuff on the net, where people said that they cant install paid apps | 20:35 |
| infinity | Ubuntu developers didn't log on to your system and remove the file. | 20:35 |
| gotwig | infinity, of course it has its own file. Without that file it wouldnt even run | 20:36 |
| gotwig | you should know that | 20:36 |
| infinity | 13:32 < gotwig> infinity, it seems my distro just removed it... | 20:36 |
| gotwig | infinity, if its elementary, it uses its own file. | 20:36 |
| gotwig | every distro got its own file | 20:36 |
| gotwig | but I also read on the net, that linux mint users were not able to install paid apps as well | 20:36 |
| gotwig | so I think its a bigger problem | 20:36 |
| infinity | Sure, no one's dictating what elementary's should do. | 20:36 |
| infinity | (Nor Mint) | 20:36 |
| gotwig | infinity, they downloaded it for their self | 20:37 |
| gotwig | and did steps that I can reproduce | 20:37 |
| gotwig | however the result not | 20:37 |
| gotwig | they just copied the ubuntu.py file over, renamed all important stuff, so it could even run | 20:37 |
| gotwig | without, it wouldnt | 20:37 |
| gotwig | infinity, are you interested in a diff? | 20:38 |
| gotwig | I know, that this is not "upstream" | 20:39 |
| infinity | Not particularly, no. | 20:39 |
| hallyn | slangasek: before installing the qemu udev rules, getfacl shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453236, after it shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453238 | 20:39 |
| infinity | After spending 10 minutes trying to find the source on the elementary website, I've lost whatever curiosity I had. | 20:39 |
| gotwig | infinity, which source | 20:39 |
| gotwig | infinity, you can find everything on launchpad | 20:39 |
| gotwig | just like at ubuntu | 20:40 |
| infinity | gotwig: "Find it on launchpad" is meaningless. Where? | 20:40 |
| gotwig | infinity, the elementary package for software center? | 20:40 |
| infinity | gotwig: I'd interpret what you're saying as "https://launchpad.net/elementary/+source/software-center", which is clearly not true. | 20:40 |
| infinity | gotwig: So, again, where? | 20:41 |
| slangasek | hallyn: so it looks like the rulse have been /partially/ applied - group is fixed, mode is wrong? | 20:41 |
| hallyn | slangasek: right | 20:41 |
| slangasek | hallyn: is it possible you have some other rule in your quantal env that's overriding the mode? | 20:41 |
| hallyn | grep kvm /lib/udev/rules.d/* didn't show any | 20:41 |
| hallyn | unless udev now merges 40-* with 70-* rules? | 20:42 |
| hallyn | lemme remove the 70-* rules jsut to make sure | 20:42 |
| hallyn | nope, still ignored | 20:43 |
| slangasek | hallyn: well, it might be a broader rule of some kind that's setting modes it shouldn't | 20:43 |
| gotwig | infinity, https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/os-patches | 20:44 |
| hallyn | slangasek: is there a way to tell udev what rules it's considering? | 20:44 |
| slangasek | hallyn: not AFAIK | 20:44 |
| hallyn | slangasek: and it should only use the first rule it finds right? | 20:45 |
| slangasek | not at all | 20:45 |
| slangasek | it processes all rules in order | 20:45 |
| slangasek | hallyn: if you *reboot* the quantal test, do you get the right acl? | 20:46 |
| slangasek | if not, that's fairly definitive that the problem isn't with the SRU :) | 20:46 |
| hallyn | slangasek: yup | 20:47 |
| slangasek | hmm, darn | 20:47 |
| hallyn | get the right acls that way | 20:47 |
| slangasek | so that sounds like a udev bug of some kind | 20:47 |
| slangasek | grr | 20:47 |
| hallyn | wonder if it's present in raring | 20:47 |
| hallyn | wonder if i have enough disk space to test that here | 20:48 |
| hallyn | 7G. that'll do | 20:48 |
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| gotwig | infinity, what are you up to | 20:59 |
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| quantalrabbit | i'm trying to build debuild php5-5.3.10 precise and it is failing with some errors such as "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to php5-5.3.10/mysql_base/bin/my_print_defaults: binary file contents changed". Haven't changed any of the source files yet. I'm a bit new to ubuntu-devel, any help greatly appreciated | 23:11 |
| RAOF | quantalrabbit: It sounds like maybe your clean target hasn't cleaned the build tree properly? | 23:37 |
| quantalrabbit | RAOF: thanks, you are correct. | 23:38 |
| quantalrabbit | RAOF: i removed files it was complaining about and it now is rebuilding. | 23:38 |
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