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| ubot5 | directhex called the ops in #ubuntu-steam () | 18:29 |
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| AlanBell | 83 people in that channel and one op in the access list along with ubuntuirccouncil | 18:42 |
| IdleOne | you might want to add a few :) | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I asked bryce to pop in here to have a chat about it | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | there are a few likely candidates in the channel (including directhex) | 18:45 |
| AlanBell | we should probably get a logbot in #ubuntu-steam too I guess | 18:58 |
| IdleOne | yup | 19:03 |
| IdleOne | finally got my steam account password sorted | 19:06 |
| Tm_T | hi bryce | 19:55 |
| bryce | Tm_T, hi | 19:55 |
| AlanBell | hi bryce | 20:24 |
| AlanBell | apparently there was a bit of trolling or something in -steam earlier, do you think we should add some more operators there? | 20:24 |
| Tm_T | I think yes | 20:25 |
| Tm_T | oh, you meant bryce | 20:25 |
| AlanBell | bryce2 is the only operator in addition to UbuntuIrcCouncil | 20:26 |
| bryce | AlanBell, yeah probably would be a good idea | 20:54 |
| === bryce is now known as bryce2 | ||
| bryce2 | AlanBell, want to walk me thru how to do that? | 20:55 |
| AlanBell | sure, firstly who do you want to add? | 20:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | AlanBell, he shoudl add you as a backup :P | 20:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | s/he/they/ | 20:56 |
| * TheLordOfTime returns to lurkmode | 20:56 | |
| AlanBell | I can use ubuntuirccouncil account so no need to add me individually | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | and I don't tend to be in that channel anyway | 20:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 20:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | <offtopic> wait, you're not *everywhere*? </offtopic> | 20:57 |
| AlanBell | directhex popey bkerensa would be people in the channel I know and are likely to be reasonably active | 20:57 |
| bryce2 | hmm, deryck, bkerensa, popey | 20:57 |
| bkerensa | hi | 20:58 |
| bryce2 | derickhex is pretty active, he'd be good | 20:58 |
| bryce2 | AlanBell, think that's enough? how many ops is a good number? | 20:58 |
| AlanBell | that sounds fine, you can always add more later | 20:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | bryce2, i think "good number" varies based on channel traffic | 20:59 |
| TheLordOfTime | for #ubuntu, for example, 4 or 5 ops isnt enough. | 20:59 |
| bkerensa | bryce2 / AlanBell : I saw the troll earlier but couldnt act | 20:59 |
| TheLordOfTime | (based on observations) | 20:59 |
| bryce2 | yeah guess we can start with them. I should add my 'regular' account too. | 20:59 |
| IdleOne | #ubuntu has >9000 and it never seems to be enough | 20:59 |
| bkerensa | even though people ping me about him | 20:59 |
| AlanBell | so start with /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-steam list | 20:59 |
| bkerensa | <tgm4883> bkerensa, I was seeing if you were able to get rid of a troll in #ubuntu-steam, but he seems to have stopped caring | 20:59 |
| AlanBell | that will show you the current access list | 20:59 |
| bryce2 | AlanBell, ok. | 21:00 |
| AlanBell | then /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-steam popey +Aiotv | 21:00 |
| IdleOne | bryce2: I'm new to the channel but I don't mind being idle in there and acting if needed. | 21:00 |
| IdleOne | I won't be hurt if you don;t add me :) | 21:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | IdleOne, true statement (for #ubuntu > 9000) | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | and same for the other people you want to add | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | then "access #ubuntu-steam list" again to see if you got it right | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | and tell the people concerned what you have done :) | 21:01 |
| bryce2 | ok, bryce, popey, bkerensa, deryck, directhex added as ops for #ubuntu-steam | 21:03 |
| bryce2 | AlanBell, will notify folks directly. :-) | 21:03 |
| Fuchs | bryce2: if you want staff to intervene in case of no ops being around, you might want to add us. Note that this is entirely optional | 21:03 |
| bryce2 | Fuchs, UbuntuIrcCouncil is on there currently; anything more needed? | 21:04 |
| IdleOne | always a good idea to have them in the access list | 21:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | bryce2, freenode staff | 21:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | *!*@freenode/staff/* | 21:04 |
| Fuchs | bryce2: as said, optional, but *!*@freenode/staff/* | 21:04 |
| bryce2 | ok | 21:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | if i remember the pattern right. | 21:04 |
| Fuchs | yes, yes you do | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | good point | 21:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | Fuchs, suggested ACL flags? | 21:04 |
| Fuchs | *shrug* | 21:04 |
| bryce2 | -ChanServ- Flags +Aiotv were set on *!*@freenode/staff/* in #ubuntu-steam. | 21:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | that works :P | 21:05 |
| Fuchs | +votiA seems common, but for most things we would actually do (e.g. remove trolls) +o alone would be sufficient | 21:05 |
| AlanBell | great, thanks bryce2 | 21:05 |
| Fuchs | thanks :) | 21:05 |
| bryce2 | no prob. Ok, notices sent. | 21:12 |
| === bryce2 is now known as bryce | ||
| hggdh | OK, folks I need help on the #ubuntu-br | 23:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, issues? | 23:46 |
| hggdh | there is one op there -- Rudolf -- that is completely uncontrolled | 23:46 |
| * TheLordOfTime pokes AlanBell | 23:47 | |
| hggdh | and has just banned me from the channel | 23:47 |
| hggdh | so I will need a real op to set things right (whatever is right) | 23:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | well, anyone with +o can undo the ban, per se, if nobody on IRCC shows up any ubuntu member can suffice | 23:48 |
| AlanBell | hi hggdh | 23:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | SPEAKING of the IRCC, isnt abusive-ops one of the things they typically handle? :P | 23:49 |
| AlanBell | it is | 23:49 |
| AlanBell | hggdh: what time did this happen? | 23:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | AlanBell, i've pulled banlogs, timestamp ~ 18:45 UTC-0500 if the system's reporting right... | 23:50 |
| * TheLordOfTime glances briefly at the server correctly reporting bantimes :P | 23:50 | |
| TheLordOfTime | (so, approximately 5 minutes ago give or take?) | 23:50 |
| hggdh | AlanBell: 17:45 CST | 23:51 |
| hggdh | yes | 23:51 |
| AlanBell | ok, lets give it a few minutes for the logs to update at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/12/20/%23ubuntu-br.html | 23:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | so yeah, 7 minutes ago. | 23:51 |
| AlanBell | what was the reasoning behind the ban? | 23:51 |
| hggdh | AlanBell: I asked him to control his language (a dialog earlier on from him was completely off-limits) | 23:52 |
| hggdh | *why* he banned, I do not know. I did not even know we would accept ops like him | 23:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | speaking of logs updating, how often do they update, AlanBell? | 23:53 |
| AlanBell | TheLordOfTime: it writes to disk every hour | 23:54 |
| hggdh | 17:45:50 -- | Mode #ubuntu-br [+b *!*hggdh@ubuntu/member/hggdh] by Rudolf | 23:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | AlanBell, as an aside, I see one thing out of place in that channel: the person in question is +o still | 23:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | isn't it op-act-deop? | 23:54 |
| AlanBell | one would normally do that, but it isn't in itself a big deal | 23:55 |
| Fuchs | that is merely a guideline than a fix rule. Also out of experience, letting things de-escalate instead of looking for more things to fight over is more productive :) | 23:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | AlanBell, i think i can see the "bad language" in question, and attitude, although google translate's pretty crappy with translations... (I only /join'd to check its +b list) | 23:56 |
| hggdh | indeed. I have been seen the channel go south for a while now, and today I saw a really low-level chat from Rudolf, and I asked both participants to control their language, and respect the channel | 23:57 |
| hggdh | s/been seen/been seeing/ # <sigh/> | 23:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | AlanBell, if I had any sway, i'd say he's far abusing operdom, and acting like someone who shouldn't have +o | 23:58 |
| * TheLordOfTime sees a couple of things that'd be against the ops guildelines for ubuntu | 23:58 | |
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