[00:12] <phillw> xnox: bug 1092349 is all yours :)
[00:12] <ubot5> bug 1092349 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt /home in raring fails on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092349
[00:25] <phillw> Noskcaj: oops, just as you posted your reply!!!!
[00:26] <phillw> have a read of mine :)
[00:36] <Noskcaj> phillw, i did. thats what i get for replying instantly
[00:39] <phillw> Noskcaj: no offence meant, I was in chat elsewhere when he sent the question into lubuntu-qa people.
[00:41] <phillw> crikey... about 2 hours after I said I'd look into you bug.... I'm just setting up a slice of disk for it to install onto.
[00:43] <Noskcaj> lolololol
[00:43] <phillw> Noskcaj: root@piglet:/home/phillw/enc-etc# lvcreate -L 10G -n r-desktop phillwvol
[00:43] <phillw>   Logical volume "r-desktop" created
[00:43] <Noskcaj> oooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy?
[00:46] <phillw> Noskcaj: started :)
[00:47] <Noskcaj> slow success
[00:48] <phillw> i have to tell the VM where everything is :P
[00:49] <phillw> total fail
[00:49] <Noskcaj> what happened?
[00:51] <phillw> The last comment was * Stopping
[00:54] <Noskcaj> it takes me ~15seconds to get a vm going, why is this taking so long?
[01:03] <phillw> Noskcaj: maybe the hint *Stopping gives it away?
[01:07] <Noskcaj> true
[01:07] <Noskcaj> y u no just use testdrive?
[01:08] <phillw> y u no use KVM / VBox etc?
[01:09] <Noskcaj> i use both
[01:09] <Noskcaj> mostly via testdrive
[01:13] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'm still getting used to work arounds on KVM for raring... at least they exist :P
[01:13] <phillw> Nah, straight into liveCD mode :)
[01:15] <phillw> ubiquity fails again... I'll keep the VM and catch up with xnox later as to what logs he needs.
[01:16] <Noskcaj> then if you can't confirm it i will message random lurkers till someone does
[01:16] <balloons> checking the encrypted install now
[01:17] <balloons> phillw, it booted ine
[01:18] <balloons> did you do home encrypton too?
[01:18] <balloons> cryptsetup successful
[01:20] <balloons> phillw, did you use kvm?
[01:20] <balloons> I've got to find my usb drive
[01:31] <phillw> Noskcaj: after installing the latest VBox, which required removal of old VBox, it has now affected my KVM syste, It is now 01:30 here, so I'm off to bed and will investigate later. It could well be that having both installed causes a fight.
[01:32] <phillw> balloons: Noskcaj I'm going to install raring onto my main system and keep qauntal as a test area.
[01:33] <phillw> raring has the fixes needed for KVM instead of trying to grab bits and pieces from raring into quantal. that system is un-supportable.
[01:34] <Noskcaj> ok
[01:34] <Noskcaj> i shall ask random lurkers then
[01:34] <Noskcaj> good night
[01:35] <phillw> I know that lubuntu-alternate 13,04 works :)
[01:35] <Noskcaj> __apr__, ajmitch apw bdrung your task is to confirm bug 1085577, please do that now
[01:35] <ubot5> bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085577
[01:35] <phillw> As to the idea of encryption of /home... I've never been a fan of it.
[01:36] <Noskcaj> jaysonr, manjo nagappan nuclearbob could you also do it
[01:36] <Noskcaj> one of them should respond
[01:36] <phillw> I'd much rather they offer to install /home on a seperate partition.
[01:38] <phillw> balloons: yes, I used kvm (12.10 version)
[01:41] <ajmitch> pinging random lurkers is a good way to annoy people & get them to ignore whatever you say, fwiw
[01:45] <phillw> hi Noskcaj
[01:46] <phillw> this issue with KVM is going to get a bit bloody, this is me on the same KVM using a precise VM
[01:47] <phillw> ubuntu can complain as much as they wish, but KVM is not in a rush to change as it also runs Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora etc.... if Ubuntu raring does not run, it is a problem ubuntu need to sort out.
[01:48] <Noskcaj> phillw, understandable
[01:48] <Noskcaj> ajmitch, i ran out of ideas. speak more often
[01:50] <phillw> what actually staggers beyond belief is that KVM is at the heart of Cloud computing, of which Canonical (ubuntu money side) are a platinum partner, yet their latest release fails on KVM..... I really do not know.
[01:52] <Noskcaj> phillw, so much logic. i there a way to make canonical hear your rants, not just me
[01:53] <phillw> "oh, let's ask for a change in the kernal which involves KVM and is used across every distro..." honest, my young friend... there are times!
[01:54] <phillw> Noskcaj: hopefully I'll be in a better mood once I change over to 13.04 :)
[02:03] <Noskcaj> you have a point,  but there is more chance of getting something done that way. and u hope so too
[02:05] <Noskcaj> lol, phill isn't even online
[02:11] <phillw> Noskcaj: I'm off to bed, but I'm setting piglet a task... burn me the latest 13.04 alt-lubuntu onto a disk :)
[02:12] <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, good night
[02:46] <Noskcaj> can someone please confirm bug 1085577 as phill is sleeping
[02:46] <ubot5> bug 1085577 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu daily's CLI links dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085577
[02:51] <jaysonr> Noskcaj: is 1085577 what you wanted me to test?
[02:51] <Noskcaj> yes, jaysonr if you could that would be great
[02:54] <jaysonr> Noskcaj: dl'ing iso now
[03:08] <Noskcaj> thanks, the bug has been around for maybe a month now with no confirmation at all
[03:10] <jaysonr> Noskcaj: was able to confirm - commented on bug and uploaded logs in a .tar.gz
[03:11] <Noskcaj> jaysonr, thank you, say thing more btw.
[03:11] <Noskcaj> it gets boring with only about 10 people very talking
[03:13] <jaysonr> Noskcaj: glad to help
[03:13] <jaysonr> Noskcaj: sorry I haven't had much time to get around to the Autopilot stuff much yet.
[03:15] <Noskcaj> jaysonr, don't worry, i have done nothing with it yet.
[03:18] <jaysonr> ok, well, hopefully after Christmas I'll have some time ;-)
[03:18] <jaysonr> If I'm around I can always help w/ stuff like this in the evenings - just ping me.
[03:21] <Noskcaj> ok
[03:52] <Noskcaj> hey tripelb
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[08:17] <dholbach> good morning
[08:18] <Noskcaj> dholbach, evening
[08:18] <dholbach> hey Noskcaj
[08:20] <Noskcaj> hello
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[19:16] <Noskcaj> phillw, to confirm bug 1092349 what do i do, you left out repeat instructions
[19:16] <ubot5> bug 1092349 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt /home in raring fails on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092349
[19:17] <phillw> Noskcaj: after installing, follow the 'remove media' prompt & reboot.
[19:19] <Noskcaj> ok, simple enough. it's alternate only isn't it?
[19:19] <phillw-vm> that's the only one I've tested it on. I'll have to update my xubuntu install to try that.
[19:20] <Noskcaj> ok, i am getting alternate amd64 and lubuntu desktop amd64 now
[19:20] <phillw-vm> thanks
[19:24] <phillw> I'm just updating my precise VM, I'll update my xubuntu-raring iso once that is done.
[19:50] <Noskcaj> phillw, where is the release notes link meant to be in lubuntu?
[19:51] <phillw> in release notes: :D .. let me grab the link for you.
[19:52] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[19:52] <phillw> We follow the standard format for release notes, else Liz would nag us to death :)
[19:52] <phillw> sorry, not Liz... Kate :)
[19:53] <Noskcaj> phillw, i meant in the raring installer
[19:53] <Noskcaj> i didn't appear for me
[19:54] <phillw> there are no release notes for raring... it has not been released!
[19:55] <Noskcaj> phillw, what about the link everything else has?
[19:55] <phillw> I'm not aware of 'what everything has' means?
[19:55] <Noskcaj> all the other distros
[19:56] <Noskcaj> have a link the goes to the ubuntu homepage
[19:56] <phillw> Those flavours following the alpha release schedule will have their alpha notes. I'm not aware of any notes released via Cadence testing.
[19:57] <Noskcaj> phillw, my point is lubuntu didn't have the release notes link, but it may just beconnection related
[19:58] <phillw> afaik, Kate looks after that and then digs me & Julien in the ribs to get it all filled in :)
[19:59] <phillw> Although I do need to ask gilir why there is no https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Raring
[19:59] <phillw> That's him pinged :)
[20:01] <Noskcaj> That link is what all flavours should have instead of the Ubuntu homepage(xubuntu, Ubuntu) or the kubuntu news page
[20:03] <phillw> I'm sure he said he was filing it... I'll await gilir 's reply. It may be an oversight.
[20:03] <Noskcaj> phillw, ok, just noticed in your bug report it says you we using quantal, bugception?
[20:04] <phillw> my test machine is running quantal, the latest stable release, using VM's I then install raring.
[20:07] <Noskcaj> oh
[20:19] <Noskcaj> phillw, just realized i finished the install without ticking "encript my home directory"
[20:21] <phillw> ahhh.... that's a bitch :)
[20:24] <Noskcaj> http://memecrunch.com/meme/A5H9/i-am-not-a-smart-man/image.png
[20:26] <phillw> Noskcaj: after my attempt at trying to install onto a 1GB root partition, I wouldn't feel to bad :)
[20:28] <Noskcaj> lolololololololololol :)
[20:47] <Noskcaj> phillw, it doesn't seem to affect lubuntu AMD64
[20:48] <phillw> alternate or desktop?
[20:48] <Noskcaj> desktop
[20:49] <phillw> we don't have a test case for encrypted on desktop? Possibly needs adding.
[20:50] <Noskcaj> definitely, no-one has an encript home folder test
[20:50] <phillw> Noskcaj: lubuntu alternate does :)
[20:50] <Noskcaj> oh
[20:51] <phillw> I was finishing my alternate tests before moving to desktop. I was then going to try and replicate your reported bug.
[21:43] <Noskcaj> worked fine for me phillw
[22:03] <phillw> Noskcaj: thanks, I've just installed Q using LVM onto my KVM system, now going to try encrypted to see if that works
[22:09] <Noskcaj> ok, it could always be a kvm bug
[22:09] <phillw> indeed, that is why I'm now trying Q with encryption.
[22:11] <phillw> I'm not a fan of encrypted /home... I'd much rather they offered the option to have a sperate /home by default :)
[22:14] <Noskcaj> much better idea, you could put home a a big usb stick if you wanted privacy
[22:16] <phillw> I'll see how this install goes, then try R with enc, using a section of hard drive instead of using my LV pool.
[22:29] <phillw> hmm, this is odd... it didn't ask me for a passphrase
[22:32] <phillw> xnox: are you about?
[22:34] <phillw> Noskcaj: were you asked to enter a passphrase when you selected encrypt /home in your raring install?
[22:37] <Noskcaj> phillw, no, just the popup once i was at the desktop
[22:38] <phillw> hmm, I was....
[22:44] <phillw> Yeah, that worked as you stated for 'Q'.... most peculiar
[22:45] <phillw> I'll add the information to the bug.
[22:46] <Noskcaj> it could always have been me not doing the right thing , but my advice is try in at least Vbox and kvm yourself, real hardware if possible
[22:50] <phillw> Noskcaj: the behaviour you report is what I see in Quantal with encrypted /home. It is not what I see with Raring. I doubt it is a KVM issue because of that, but yet a glitch with Raring and KVM.
[23:09] <Noskcaj> phillw, i think that's what i meant, maybe
[23:14] <phillw> I'm putting Raring onto my laptop tomorrow as a 'main' system, replacing my other 12.10 installation.
[23:15] <phillw> A bit of fdisk'ing needed to grab it a 10GB / partition - it will share /home and /swap with my 12.10 area.