[00:00] <directhex> arkham asylum/city
[00:00] <ali1234> lol. i thought mst of them were source?
[00:00] <directhex> bioshock
[00:00] <directhex> source is only used in like 3 games other than hl2
[00:00] <directhex> and other valve titles
[00:00] <ali1234> 50 cent: blood on the sand. looking forward to that one :)
[00:00] <directhex> borderlands. gears of war. mass effect.
[00:00] <ali1234> borderlands?
[00:01] <ali1234> ok, yeah, that's pretty important then
[00:01] <ali1234> devil may cry
[00:01] <directhex> i reckon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctum_(2011_video_game) could be a candidate for HIB8 now, if they get icculus to port it
[00:02] <directhex> UE3 is popular for indies, it's very cheap for an AAA engine
[00:03] <directhex> also http://www.unrealengine.com/en/showcase/
[00:03] <ali1234> rise of the triad? i remember that game from DOS
[00:03] <ali1234> ooo the new xcom game too
[00:05] <directhex> http://www.unrealengine.com/udk/licensing/commercial_license_terms/ shows the pricing on the cut down version of UE3
[00:05] <ali1234> hmm so a better question would be what games aren't either source or UE3?
[00:06] <ali1234> battlefield and CoD spring to mind
[00:06] <directhex> battlefield is "frostbyte 2" iirc, which is EA's engine of choice now (ME4 and DA3 will use it, for example)
[00:07] <daftykins> *shakes fist at EA*
[00:07] <directhex> all call of duty games use versions of the "IW Engine"
[00:07] <directhex> well, not call of duty 1
[00:07] <directhex> but 2 onwards
[00:07] <ali1234> cryengine games too i guess
[00:07] <directhex> cryengine is relatively fringe
[00:08] <ali1234> and whatever bethesda uses
[00:08] <directhex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryengine#CryEngine_3_2
[00:08] <directhex> bethesda uses various versions of gamebryo, although they pretend it's not called that anymore, for their RPGs
[00:08] <directhex> and iD are still making their own engines, although not really licensing them anymore
[00:09] <ali1234> iD have always been good to linux though... well relatively speaking
[00:10] <directhex> ubisoft has its own engine, called anvilnext nowadays
[00:11] <ali1234> what is "dunia engine 2"
[00:11] <directhex> rockstar have an engine called "rage" which is not to be confused with "id tech 5" used in the game "rage"
[00:11] <directhex> dunia is ubisoft's fork of cryengine 1
[00:11] <ali1234> hmm... yeah totally forgot about rockstar
[00:11] <directhex> used in far cry 2 and 3
[00:12] <ali1234> so still plenty of games to be ported
[00:12] <directhex> as opposed to cryengine 2 and 3 used in crysis 1 and 2
[00:13] <ali1234> valve using github for steam bug tracking?
[00:14] <ali1234> it looks like 2013 might actually be the year of the linux desktop this time
[00:14] <directhex> nowadays more games are using their own engines (compared to the early unrealengine and quake engine days), but a lot of them share middleware platforms, e.g. havok physics is in many many games
[00:14] <directhex> year of the steambox. linux desktop comes along for the ride.
[00:14] <popey> \o/ http://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1747660173332716773
[00:15] <ali1234> steambox. chromebox. whatever
[00:15] <ali1234> it's all linux
[00:15] <daftykins> are loading times lovely under Steam on Linux?
[00:15] <ali1234> not for TF2 they're not
[00:16] <daftykins> aww
[00:16] <ali1234> i don't have any other games on it
[00:16] <popey> directhex, you had a 5450?
[00:16] <ali1234> also i don't have windows to compare it to
[00:17] <popey> i have a machine with steam on linux and on windows
[00:17] <popey> not really noticed much difference
[00:17] <popey> not looked for it though
[00:17] <popey> oh look, steam client update
[00:18] <daftykins> i just remember the loading time being amazing on a Linux native install of whichever UT it was that did that
[00:18] <daftykins> 2003 maybe
[00:18] <directhex> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/15502w/the_big_updated_list_of_which_steam_for_linux/
[00:18] <directhex> upvotes plz!
[00:19] <popey> oh dear, the linux section is broken for me
[00:19] <popey> "Uninitialized" everywhere
[00:19] <directhex> :o debs!
[00:19] <directhex> http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/
[00:20] <popey> "The package is of bad quality"
[00:20] <popey> Use of uninitialized value $ENV{"HOME"} in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/lintian line 108.
[00:20] <popey> E: steam: malformed-deb-archive found 4 members instead of 3
[00:21] <popey> tsk tsk
[00:21] <ali1234> wasn't it always in debs?
[00:21] <popey> not in the original beta
[00:21] <popey> when it opened to 80K people it did, yes
[00:54] <neuro> 00:14 <ali1234> it looks like 2013 might actually be the year of the linux desktop this time
[00:54] <neuro> BWAHAHAHAHAHA
[00:59] <popey> you have that phrase on highlight? :)
[01:21] <daftykins> http://i.imgur.com/BNspf.jpg
[01:22] <daftykins> gotta love the mr.kipling seasonal feeling
[01:23] <neuro> popey, no i just happened to look at the scrollbacj
[01:23] <neuro> s/cj/ck/
[01:28] <popey> heh, you should see the one we got a few christmasses ago which had plastic IN the mince pie
[01:31] <daftykins> :O
[01:31] <daftykins> that's not festive, that's not festive at all!
[01:31] <daftykins> did you send off with a complaint to get some freebies? :)
[01:36] <popey> dunno, it was AlanBells
[01:36] <popey> http://twitpic.com/3i6gfy
[01:37] <daftykins> whoa :o
[01:37] <popey> gosh, that long ago
[01:37] <daftykins> time, eh :(
[01:37] <popey> I was in my thirties when I took that :(
[01:38] <daftykins> i'm getting dangerously close to my 30s
[01:38] <daftykins> it's a bit scary
[01:38] <daftykins> i've still managed to resist growing up, though i've bought a place locally now, so baby-steps...
[01:39] <popey> locally being?
[01:39] <popey> mainland?
[01:39] <daftykins> nah Guernsey
[01:39] <daftykins> i sold up over on the mainland
[01:40] <popey> oh you're back on the island?
[01:40] <daftykins> yep, now i'm poor due to the vast difference in property cost :)
[01:40] <daftykins> i've been back since i graduated in '08
[01:41] <daftykins> fair bit of travel in the last few years though
[01:42] <popey> right, I'm getting uglier by the second, need my beauty sleep!
[01:42] <popey> nn
[01:44] <daftykins> \o
[08:20] <bigcalm> Good early morning peeps
[08:21] <popey> pip pip
[08:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> afternoonings
[08:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/12/microsoft-offers-patches-to-webkit-to-aid-touch-compatibility/
[08:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> Like it - MS are effectively challenging Apple to open up.
[08:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> check your (apache) servers? http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/12/apache-plugin-turns-legit-sites-into-bank-attack-platforms/
[08:40] <popey> \o/ lighttpd :)
[08:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> That's a really clever module - lots of tricks to avoid admin detection..
[08:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> What none of the links say is how to identify if you have it or not :-(
[08:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> It sounds unlikely but hey ho.
[08:49] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> morning czajkowski
[08:55] <czajkowski> ello TheOpenSourcerer all set for Christmas?
[08:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nope :-D
[08:56] <Myrtti> meh
[09:16] <JamesTait> Morning all! o/
[09:16] <dwatkins> mornin!
[10:26] <solarcloud_3scrn> AlanBell, Nice post on The Open Sourcerer 'Privacy is hard. Lets go shopping!' .. I'm checking my amazon EC2- tor account just now, but I'll read it in full later :) http://wp.me/phA9d-R4
[10:34]  * solarcloud_3scrn wonders why no picture of the multicolor socks came with the email .. like his other Wpress email (??) http://wp.me/p9k-63Z
[10:34]  * Laney remains in bed
[10:34] <solarcloud_3scrn> Was that a slight net-split 3-mins ago ?
[10:37] <DJones> Certainly was
[10:42] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:43] <solarcloud_3scrn> brobostigon, morning All.
[10:44] <brobostigon> morning solarcloud_3scrn
[11:46] <mungojerry> can any parents tell me if the "terrible twos" ends at 3rd birthday?
[11:46]  * mungojerry hopes so
[11:57] <czajkowski> lol
[11:57] <czajkowski> mungojerry: that bad
[11:57] <mungojerry> massive screaming tantrums, hissy fits, smacking himself, smashing stuff up
[11:57] <mungojerry> at the smallest thing
[11:58] <czajkowski> how do ye deal with it? give him notice or repremand him?
[11:58] <mungojerry> depends on the severity of tantrum
[11:58] <czajkowski> note I don't have kids, but have been baby sitting since i was 15
[11:58] <mungojerry> removal of privileges, time out in bedroom, smack (don't really work while tantrum is going on)
[11:59] <czajkowski> not the same thing though I handed them back
[11:59] <czajkowski> current little counsin is 3 and a bit and has a temper on her, when she pulls a strop and cries and screams I walk way from her and no attention given, she calms down much faster
[11:59]  * czajkowski has no tolerance for tantrums 
[12:00] <czajkowski> not letting a kid dictate to me :)
[12:00] <mungojerry> he had time out in room yesterday...trashed it
[12:00] <mungojerry> we don't give in, so we are setting boundaries
[12:00] <czajkowski> nods
[12:00] <czajkowski> has to be hard
[12:00] <mungojerry> he is quite feisty but hopefully will grow up knowing right from wrong and not givign in to peer pressure
[12:00] <mungojerry> my wife and I are quite similar
[12:00] <mungojerry> apparently i was a "spirited" child
[12:01] <mungojerry> my dad couldn't smack it out of me either
[12:01] <mungojerry> but when all my mates turned into massive druggies as teenagers, i didn't want to compromise my principles, so i thank my parents for that
[12:02] <czajkowski> nods
[12:02] <mungojerry> just hope they stop soon
[12:03] <czajkowski> mungojerry: just the one ye have ?
[12:03] <mungojerry> yeah , another due in march :D
[12:03] <AlanBell> it can get better, or the tantrums get further apart mungojerry
[12:04] <mungojerry> i remember someone in here saying they could count tantrums between 2-3 on one hand. (christel?) i have multiple per day.
[12:04] <mungojerry> potty training at the mo, so increased tension
[12:05] <AlanBell> fun when you get called into school to discuss fighting with boys in the class
[12:06] <Daviey> AlanBell: They called to say they weren't doing enough of it?
[12:06] <popey> mungojerry, when our kids were naughty it was the naughty step
[12:06] <popey> room is a bad idea because thats where toys are
[12:06] <popey> naughty step for 1 minute per their age
[12:06] <AlanBell> Daviey: they called to say she has to stop
[12:08] <popey> mungojerry, friend of mine did potty training by rewarding each success with a very tiny reward. she gave a single piece of brio train track. so started with nothing and by the end was able to build a decent track
[12:08] <popey> we never really had tantrums though, especially not multiple times a day
[12:08] <mungojerry> the potty training is working, but i think it's making him more grouchy, especially grim weather at the mo
[12:09] <popey> what time is bed time / getting up time?
[12:09] <mungojerry> 7.30-8am get up, go bed 6.15-6.30pm
[12:09] <mungojerry> but he recently dropped his morning snooze
[12:09] <czajkowski> maybe that's why he;s a bit more tired
[12:12] <czajkowski> hmmm latest updates on 12.10 is causing me no end of woes on compiz crashes, bt it wont open up a crash report for me to follow up on it :/
[12:12] <popey> czajkowski, apt-cache policy compiz
[12:12] <popey> pastebin it pls
[12:13] <czajkowski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452141/
[12:13] <czajkowski> best tool you ever told me to install pastebinit
[12:14] <popey> what triggers a compiz crash for you?
[12:14] <czajkowski> nothing specific, alt tabbing loading rhythmbox up, plugging phone in and then unmounting it
[12:14] <czajkowski> so not one specific thing
[12:15] <TheHustle> hello
[12:15] <popey> hmmm
[12:15] <popey> what if you do "ubuntu-bug compiz"
[12:15] <popey> does that let you file a bug?
[12:16] <czajkowski> lemmie try
[12:16] <czajkowski> as what is happening now is  is the usual dialogue box pops up
[12:16] <czajkowski> compix has crashed
[12:16] <czajkowski> want to submit data
[12:16] <czajkowski> and it goes into a loop and then never opens up
[12:17] <popey> never opens up?
[12:17] <czajkowski> have done a lot of updates this week, it's been quiet up till
[12:17] <popey> its not supposed to open up
[12:17] <czajkowski> in a browswer
[12:17] <czajkowski> to the bug
[12:17] <popey> not supposed to
[12:17] <czajkowski> oh
[12:17] <TheHustle> I'm at the command line in ubuntu, could someone tell me please how to make an image of my cd to .cue, thank yyou.
[12:17] <popey> it submits the crash to daisy
[12:17] <czajkowski> how am I mean to find the bug
[12:17] <popey> you aren't
[12:17] <czajkowski> oh
[12:17] <czajkowski> *confused*
[12:18] <popey> something crashes, apport detects that and writes out a crashdump
[12:18] <czajkowski> nods
[12:18] <popey> whoopsie spots it and if you're online will ask if you want to submit it
[12:18] <popey> if you click the buttons and don't just kill the window, it submits to daisy
[12:18] <popey> and will be in http://errors.ubuntu.com/ somewhere
[12:18] <czajkowski> right
[12:19] <popey> then the backend reports a bug for you
[12:19] <popey> but you dont worry about that, it gets taken care of
[12:19] <popey> however if you _want_ to file a bug, then ubuntu-bug <packagename>
[12:19] <czajkowski> problem is A) the window seems to stay open but you've no idea whats happening or when it's over
[12:19] <czajkowski> b) is a bug created from that report and if so are you added to it ?
[12:19] <popey> ok, hang on..
[12:19] <popey> does compiz _actually_ crash, i mean do the windows go mental?
[12:19] <popey> or do you just keep getting the popup?
[12:20] <popey> compiz crashing looks like the windows lose their decoration temporarily and the launcher disappears for a couple of seconds
[12:20] <czajkowski> windows go mental
[12:20] <popey> ok
[12:20] <czajkowski> and then I cant alt tab between then
[12:20] <popey> do this:-
[12:20] <czajkowski> as it keeps saying compiz neds to restart
[12:21] <popey> ls -l /var/crash | pastebinit
[12:21] <czajkowski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452164/
[12:22] <popey> ok, so the crash you had has been uploaded
[12:22] <popey> -rw-r----- 1 czajkowski whoopsie 14636852 Dec 19 17:32 _usr_bin_compiz.1000.crash
[12:22] <popey> -rw-rw-r-- 1 czajkowski whoopsie        0 Dec 19 17:33 _usr_bin_compiz.1000.upload
[12:22] <popey> -rw------- 1 whoopsie   whoopsie        0 Dec 20 10:39 _usr_bin_compiz.1000.uploaded
[12:22] <popey> you had a crash yesterday
[12:22] <czajkowski> nods
[12:23] <Laney> echo http://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo printf /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/product_uuid | sha512sum)
[12:23] <popey> ok, lets clear that out and start fresh
[12:23] <popey> oh nice Laney
[12:23] <Laney> if you can view crashes (bug control?) you can see your submitted stuff there
[12:23] <popey> czajkowski, sudo rm -rf /var/crash/*
[12:23] <czajkowski> popey: thanks
[12:24] <popey> and yeah, pm me the output of what laney said
[12:24] <popey> and I'll find your crash reports
[12:24] <popey> shows none for me Laney, you sure about that?
[12:25] <Laney> ish
[12:25] <popey> i dont see czajkowski's either
[12:26] <Laney> ok, try making it: printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum
[12:26] <popey> huh
[12:26] <popey> wont let me login
[12:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> ping popey
[12:27] <popey> pong
[12:27] <TheHustle> can i make an image of my cd @ the command line, please?
[12:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> If you saw a list of products from SAP that had a column "Issue Type" with Inter and Back in it, what would you think they mean?
[12:28] <czajkowski> TheHustle: what do you mean ?
[12:28] <popey> aha! thats better
[12:29] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer, got a url?
[12:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> no - a csv file ;-)
[12:29] <TheHustle> czajkowski: I have a CD, I don't want to risk loosing the important data, i would like to make a 1:1 .bin file of it
[12:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> It's a table of some products.
[12:29] <TheHustle> at the command line
[12:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> The other columns make sense. If you don't know never mind I will ask the customer - at least it's not something taht's totally obvious.
[12:31] <popey> bah, can see your error reports czajkowski but can't click the individual ones :(
[12:32] <czajkowski> TheHustle: not sure this is of help to you but have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[12:33] <czajkowski> popey: this is all a bit confusing :( this is wy I like LP ;)
[12:33] <popey> what's confusing?
[12:34] <czajkowski> not as easy to find - I know it's there but just I guess not as intutitive.
[12:34] <popey> you're not supposed to
[12:34] <popey> thats the point
[12:35] <czajkowski> cool
[12:35] <czajkowski> well now I know
[12:35] <czajkowski> cheers for the help popey
[12:36] <TheHustle> czajkowski, thank you
[12:53] <BigRedS> Anyone know of a good shop (or shops) in London to go to to look at and buy outdoorsy knives? £50-£70ish
[12:54] <Laney> find an army surplus store
[12:55] <bigcalm> BigRedS: try a scuba diving shop
[12:55] <BigRedS> Oooh, not thought of scuba diving
[12:56] <bigcalm> I remember the knifes my parents used to own. Huge and vicious looking things
[12:56] <BigRedS> ah, yeah, a sheath knife rather than a folding one. Most surplus places only do folding knioves, though I think crews hill does sheathes
[12:57] <brobostigon> i have a leatherman, myself.
[12:58] <Myrtti> I want a thing to cut yarn with but so far the best suggestion has been a box of dental floss
[12:58] <BigRedS> cut yarn with dental floss?
[12:58] <BigRedS> :)
[12:58] <bigcalm> I was wondering that myself
[12:58] <Myrtti> most tiny leatherman have knives in them
[12:58] <czajkowski> BigRedS: what are you up to ?
[12:59] <BigRedS> haha, it's for a friend!
[12:59] <Myrtti> so they might be confiscated at airports
[13:00] <BigRedS> Myrtti: ahhh, leatherman used to do an airport-friendly knife. Style? Either way, I find it easiest to put anything remotely tool-looking in the hold
[13:01] <Myrtti> yeah well the point is that I might actually knit in the plane
[13:01] <Myrtti> Check this out on AMZN:
[13:01] <Myrtti> Clover Yarn Cutter Pendant Antique Silver
[13:01] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0058UDEC8/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
[13:01] <czajkowski> BigRedS: cant go wrong on amazon
[13:01] <Myrtti> even that might get confiscated apparently
[13:01] <Myrtti> as it is a rotary blade
[13:02] <Myrtti> (sorry about the sucky paste)
[13:03] <BigRedS> czajkowski: yeah, he wants to ask somebody which kife to get, though
[13:03] <BigRedS> Oh! That sort of yarn!
[13:03] <BigRedS> This is all making sense now. I'd pictured you as some travelling net-maker or something. :)
[13:04] <Myrtti> hehe, nono
[13:05] <Myrtti> http://www.ravelry.com/projects/Myrtti/haruni it ended up being very Ubuntuish in colours
[13:08] <BigRedS> oh wow
[13:08] <Myrtti> which was fitting because it was for elky
[14:07] <AlanBell> czajkowski: popey: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2832 Aldershot!
[14:09] <popey> ooh!
[14:12] <Seeker`> ~o/
[14:12] <czajkowski> oh :)
[15:26] <popey> saw this and thought of czajkowski http://imgur.com/gallery/Ptnzd
[15:35] <bigcalm> o.O
[15:40] <directhex> http://store.steampowered.com/about/ is very linuxy now
[15:44] <bigcalm> Something don't install for me :(
[15:44] <bigcalm> +s
[15:48] <popey> heh, nice!
[15:48] <popey> directhex, see system requirements in bottom right
[15:49] <mgdm> heheh
[15:49] <bigcalm> Oops
[15:50] <sprmtt> 39 games just isn't enough for linux :(
[15:50] <bigcalm> Games seem quite expensive once again
[15:50] <popey> it's still in beta
[15:50] <sprmtt> I don't mind the cost of a game... if it's good
[15:51] <directhex> popey, the giant "join the steam beta" penguin is on *all* versions of that page, not just linux
[15:51] <popey> most of the games in my steam thing came from humble bundle
[15:51] <directhex> i.e. the "Not running on Linux yet? Grab Ubuntu 12.04 LTS" download is shown to every single man woman & child trying to download steam on windows right now
[15:52] <popey> sweet!
[15:53] <czajkowski> popey: ROFLOL
[15:53] <bigcalm> Would be nice to add games via the website
[15:54] <popey> now we need to badger indiecity for their linux client
[15:54] <popey> oddly they made one for RPi
[15:55] <czajkowski> popey: you free for a quick call?
[15:56] <popey> ya
[15:56] <popey> 5 mins, just packing everyone out
[15:57] <czajkowski> cool
[15:57] <czajkowski> invite sent join whenever
[16:04] <Azelphur> I'm thinking of buying this ikea galant combination desk, thoughts? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/2012/December/layout.png :P
[16:05] <directhex> my desk is galant#
[16:05] <directhex> your office is about a million miles square if it has room for that
[16:05] <dogmatic69> maybe someone here could help (if you worked on / know gfx drivers) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13975917/calculate-colour-temperature-in-k
[16:06] <Azelphur> directhex: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pvltgec8fm4jtpo/2012-12-20%2015.54.15.jpg is the clearance, haha
[16:06] <dogmatic69> The gfx card configs normally show temperature.. its a long shot
[16:11] <popey> czajkowski, i broke hangouts
[17:56] <n1md4> hi there.  anyone know which config to check to see if auto-updates has been configured.  I've not had to update a system for a long time now, it's getting suspicious ;)
[19:15] <dave101010> steam for linux
[19:15] <Azelphur> firefox for linux
[19:16] <dave101010> fire fox is a natural par but steam was relaies today
[19:16] <Azelphur> open beta, fun
[19:17] <dave101010> yeah tyr omgubntu or google buut i just got it
[19:17] <Azelphur> I've been in the closed beta for a while :P
[19:17] <dave101010> you lucky b!"£$%d
[19:18] <Azelphur> :)
[19:18] <dave101010> i want to go closed betea twice but they did not acsept me
[19:20] <dave101010> thaey are adding new games and software all the time so soon it will be so good on ubuntu
[19:22] <dave101010> welcome back fwerede
[19:26] <dogmatic69> in C, Temperature_to_RGB(*T, testRGB); after that call T would be changed by the Temperature_to_RGB() function right?
[19:26] <dogmatic69> that is by reference or something?
[19:29] <dave101010> i think so
[20:40] <AlanBell> anyone running gnome shell and want to test an extension?
[20:41] <ubuntubhoy> OK
[20:45] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/shopping.zip
[20:45] <AlanBell> you should be able to download that, and use the gnome-tweak tool to add it
[20:48] <ubuntubhoy> done, what should it do ?
[20:49] <AlanBell> you should then be able to hit super (to go to overview mode) and type something like "a hot sauce" or "a green shoes"
[20:50] <ubuntubhoy> K
[20:51] <AlanBell> not sure if it will require you to restart gnome-shell or not
[20:51] <ubuntubhoy> hmm, nothing
[20:52] <ubuntubhoy> also, should it show in the extensions list
[20:52] <AlanBell> try alt-f2 r
[20:52] <ubuntubhoy> cause it ain't there
[20:52] <AlanBell> https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ not there?
[20:58] <ubuntubhoy> showing, and active
[20:58] <ubuntubhoy> but only apps, settings and contacts are showing
[20:58] <ubuntubhoy> when I search
[20:58] <ubuntubhoy> lost connection
[20:59] <ubuntubhoy> did you get that previous
[20:59] <ubuntubhoy> but only apps, settings and contacts are showing
[20:59] <ubuntubhoy> ^^
[21:02] <AlanBell> ok, thanks ubuntubhoy
[21:02] <ubuntubhoy> AlanBell: you forgot to say I needed the 'a'
[21:02] <ubuntubhoy> its working
[21:02] <AlanBell> yay
[21:02] <ubuntubhoy> lol
[21:03] <AlanBell> in the settings you can remove the "a" or change it
[21:03] <AlanBell> if you remove the "a" prefix then it works like the unity shopping lens and searches for everything you type
[21:04] <ubuntubhoy> I think I will change it
[21:04] <ubuntubhoy> don't want it all the time
[21:04] <ubuntubhoy> shop will probably suffice
[21:06] <ubuntubhoy> AlanBell: you should allow multiple sources
[21:06] <ubuntubhoy> rather than just one
[21:07] <AlanBell> maybe
[21:07] <ubuntubhoy> I would use it if I could add ebay
[21:07] <ubuntubhoy> would be quite handy then
[21:07] <AlanBell> yeah, I would like to do that
[21:14] <AlanBell> nah, loadsa terms and conditions for using the ebay API from a downloadable application
[21:14] <ali1234> http://www.grimrock.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4571 <- can anyone confirm this?
[21:15] <ubuntubhoy> bummer
[21:36] <Myrtti> wohoo! it turns out I'm not supposed to eat sprouts because they increase blood clotting. WIN!
[21:36] <ubuntubhoy> AlanBell: one other slight omission from your extension - the price should really be on the results
[21:40] <AlanBell> ubuntubhoy: yeah, it should, I think below the image or something
[21:40] <ubuntubhoy> as long as it stands out
[21:40] <ubuntubhoy> maybe even just a larger bolder font
[22:06] <cocoa117> has anyone noticed when you using inotifywait program for notification when the file is created and closed. If the file is big like 4G, and take a while for scp to copy it over to the machine, you still get close_nowrite event, and even you somehow move the file to different folder, the scp continues without issue
[22:06] <cocoa117> is this the supports to happen?
[22:13] <ali1234> yes
[22:13] <ali1234> you can move an open file without invalidating the file descriptor on linux
[22:13] <ali1234> in fact you can even delete it
[22:14] <ali1234> for example, download a large file in firefox and accidentally deleted the file half way through downloading?
[22:14] <ali1234> firefox will continue downloading
[22:15] <ali1234> you can still access the file in /proc/`pidof firefox`/fd/
[22:15] <ali1234> it will disappear as soon as the file finishes downloading though
[22:15] <ali1234> what you need to do is tail -c +0 /proc/`pidof firefox`/fd/<fd> > myfile