| raevol | oh man | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| raevol | time to learn xen | 00:00 |
| raevol | this kind of stuff is still black magic to me | 00:01 |
| pleia2 | xen is cool, I mostly use kvm though | 00:03 |
| raevol | it looks like we'll have to rebuild our server to use it | 00:04 |
| raevol | this is why i was looking at virtualbox initially | 00:04 |
| raevol | but vb brings in a bunch of gui dependencies i don't want.. | 00:05 |
| pleia2 | it's much easier these days now that xen is mainlined | 00:05 |
| raevol | yea | 00:07 |
| raevol | but we'd still have to rebuild our server | 00:07 |
| raevol | maybe it wouldn't be so bad | 00:07 |
| raevol | ok we're just going to have fun with apache instead | 00:22 |
| raevol | but someday we'll xen all of it | 00:22 |
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| === akgraner` is now known as akgraner | ||
| Torikun | anyone good with setting up postfix to work with godaddy? | 17:37 |
| MarkDude | GO Daddy? Maybe find another host? | 17:50 |
| * MarkDude kids - due to his nature to kid | 17:50 | |
| MarkDude | :) | 17:50 |
| Torikun | hahaha | 18:01 |
| Torikun | how you been MarkDude | 18:01 |
| MarkDude | Ok, busy | 18:02 |
| MarkDude | Doing a Pi event- you used Puppy Linux? | 18:02 |
| MarkDude | After Xmas | 18:02 |
| Torikun | MarkDude: I am running arch on my pi : rusher81572.com | 18:02 |
| Torikun | I do not like puppy much, not featureful | 18:02 |
| Torikun | lol | 18:02 |
| MarkDude | True, altho there are versions that work with both Ubuntu and Slackware repos | 18:03 |
| MarkDude | Those have a bit of features | 18:03 |
| Torikun | do you have a pi MarkDude ? | 18:03 |
| * MarkDude arranged to get a few of them | 18:04 | |
| MarkDude | We will have at least 3 to play with | 18:04 |
| Torikun | what have you used them for ? | 18:04 |
| MarkDude | Nothing yet, | 18:04 |
| Torikun | MY daughter uses it as her room pc | 18:05 |
| Torikun | and me web/torrent server | 18:05 |
| * MarkDude wants to try whatever will work the best on it | 18:05 | |
| Torikun | ARch | 18:05 |
| akk | I'm trying to use mine for robotics/hardware control, but haven't done much with it yet. | 18:05 |
| MarkDude | As part of the donation of re-used hardware- Pis sound nice | 18:05 |
| MarkDude | As a basic machine, they would work in remote areas, like OLPC | 18:06 |
| Torikun | that is about all it is good for | 18:06 |
| MarkDude | More power tho- still less than a desktop | 18:06 |
| MarkDude | Well sure | 18:06 |
| MarkDude | Video and basic comp stuff | 18:06 |
| MarkDude | What many folks need in other countries- as well as here | 18:07 |
| MarkDude | other options involve OLPC or using sumthin lite- like Puppy | 18:08 |
| MarkDude | Puppy runs nicely on older machines. Power costs more money in some places. | 18:09 |
| Torikun | as a Desktop, the pi sucks | 18:09 |
| Torikun | someone decent as a media center | 18:09 |
| Torikun | small server | 18:09 |
| MarkDude | In truth tho- the OS would sorta depends on folks being able to maintain the machines | 18:10 |
| akk | Funny, I had the opposite impression -- I got dropouts trying to play videos, but it seemed fine for running a basic window manager. | 18:10 |
| akk | Not everybody needs a full-blown gnome/unity desktop. | 18:10 |
| MarkDude | Well, taking some of the machines I have here, and think adding a Pi or two for the folks that help keep the machines running- good incentive | 18:11 |
| Torikun | YEah | 18:11 |
| Torikun | Good torrent /webserver | 18:11 |
| Torikun | my daughter's PI has to use chrome over ssh on it | 18:11 |
| MarkDude | akk: at OSCON, rumor has it that the Fedora Pi had a few video issues, so 480 was used | 18:11 |
| MarkDude | Other resolutions would not work | 18:12 |
| akk | I keep hearing people talk about using them as media centers, so there must be some trick to it. | 18:12 |
| Torikun | openelec was the best but kinda unstable | 18:12 |
| akk | I wasn't trying to play high res, but I think it was mpeg4, maybe everything needs to be re-encoded into specific formats first. | 18:12 |
| akk | Which, if true, seems like it would make it a hassle as a media center PC. | 18:14 |
| Torikun | Yeah =( | 18:14 |
| Torikun | Some videos I watched would skip and the audio would not sync | 18:14 |
| akk | Since you can buy a used laptop on ebay that'll play nearly any format just fine. | 18:14 |
| Torikun | I wish it was x86 atlease, make it more useful | 18:14 |
| kdub | do raspberry pis have video decoders? o.O | 18:14 |
| akk | AAUI, the video chip has some video decoding but you can't use it, because it requires proprietary Broadcom firmware or something. | 18:15 |
| Torikun | you need a license or something right akk ? | 18:15 |
| akk | Turning that on would have required the Pi foundation paying Broadcom and therefore making the machines more expensive. | 18:16 |
| * akk so loves the modern world | 18:16 | |
| MarkDude | That kinda stuff makes me feel like getting all RMS :D | 18:16 |
| akk | Yeah, exactly. | 18:16 |
| Torikun | lol | 18:16 |
| * akk has no love for Broadcom anyway | 18:16 | |
| MarkDude | in the neck I say | 18:16 |
| MarkDude | Eff 'em in the neck | 18:16 |
| MarkDude | XD | 18:16 |
| akk | Broadcom's business model seems to be to ship super crappy hardware that doesn't work without tons of proprietary firmware | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | True story. | 18:17 |
| akk | but charge $0.17 less for it than the next company, so everybody buys their stuff anyway. | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | I figure they will make a fun toy at least | 18:17 |
| akk | The first thing to do after buying any laptop is "Spend 2 hours figuring out how to open the laptop so you can replace the crappy OEM Broadcom wi-fi card with a decent Intel one." | 18:18 |
| akk | What a collosal waste of time and energy. | 18:18 |
| akk | Or, alternately, if you're afraid of tinkering with hardware, "Go to your local Ubuntu hour and get all 8 people there involved with trying to get your crappy Broadcom wi-fi working with Ubuntu." | 18:19 |
| MarkDude | Zareason had one machine that they had to remove a crappy ethernet plug in card to replace with a not crappy one | 18:19 |
| akk | I mean really, what percentage of Ubuntu hours end up being 3 hours of trying to get someone's Broadcom working? Around a third of them? | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | Well, I know it will be even more fun trying to get Fedora working, since it does so well with drivers, and codecs as well | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | <sarcasm> :) | 18:20 |
| * kdub has just adapted to never buying certain infamous hardware brands :) | 18:20 | |
| akk | Yeah, it's easier on ubuntu than on other distros -- and that's not saying much. | 18:21 |
| MarkDude | True kdub - donation tho- create another scenario | 18:21 |
| akk | kdub: It's true, my Lenovo actually came with a non-Broadcom wi-fi. But it's the only laptop I've seen in years that did. | 18:21 |
| akk | And some Lenovos of that model did have Broadcom, so there was no way to be sure before buying it. | 18:21 |
| * MarkDude still loves Puppy, its failsafe tends to work better with old as well as new | 18:22 | |
| akk | Yeah, ubuntu drops support for older hardware sooner than other distros. | 18:22 |
| Torikun | http://rusher81572.com/ | 18:23 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Rusher's Raspberry PI Server] | 18:23 |
| Torikun | made some progress | 18:23 |
| kdub | hardware support is generally getting more open, especially in the arm world i feel | 18:24 |
| toddcnb | I have two with raspbian loaded and tsted with 1080 but using rca atm | 18:25 |
| MarkDude | In truth- most folks could get away with Vlc, and chrome | 18:25 |
| MarkDude | And maybe Abiword | 18:25 |
| MarkDude | And tell them to cope on the light features for anything else | 18:26 |
| MarkDude | Here is a free comp, no complaining | 18:26 |
| MarkDude | Kidding again | 18:26 |
| MarkDude | :) | 18:26 |
| philipballew | nice... | 18:28 |
| MarkDude | Oh wow, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=23272 | 18:29 |
| darthrobot | Title: [Raspberry Pi • View topic - snes9x-1.39-rpi -- full speed SNES emulation with sound] | 18:29 |
| MarkDude | Using SNES games on the Pi | 18:30 |
| akk | I don't think of vlc as being that lightweight (though it's good, I use it). | 18:30 |
| akk | I use mplayer when I want lighter weight. | 18:30 |
| MarkDude | Yes, Mplayer is default on Puppy, vlc does more tho. I use Mplayer, unless- it says no workie. | 18:31 |
| Torikun | omxplayer is the only video player for raspberry pi now | 18:31 |
| kdub | philipballew, you should sign up for some google summer of code! :D | 18:32 |
| philipballew | They take people who code really badly? | 18:32 |
| kdub | philipballew, dont know :) | 18:43 |
| philipballew | there is only one way to find out | 18:49 |
| Gareth | bkerensa: ping | 21:08 |
| bkerensa | Gareth: hi | 21:14 |
| bkerensa | Gareth: I have to run to a job in a few? Wanna e-mail me? bkerensa@ubuntu? | 21:15 |
| Gareth | bkerensa: just a quick question. Mozilla logo. I'm going to use this one, unless there are objections. | 21:19 |
| Gareth | http://www.w4a.info/2010/images/mozilla-foundation-logo-250x235.png | 21:19 |
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