[00:01] <Ghostly> PJSingh5000, ...strange i can not find anything related to java there -.-
[00:02] <dr_willis> YuriRev01: you want only one user that can ssh in?
[00:02] <YuriRev01> yes that user being me the owner
[00:02] <gener1c> god damn it
[00:02] <gener1c> my qt is too old to compile the prog i want
[00:02] <gener1c> :(
[00:03] <dr_willis> YuriRev01: sshd configs can do that i belive
[00:03] <PJSingh5000> Ghostly, Then the item must be under /usr/share/...
[00:03] <bjrohan> Is there a Keep alive feature for wifi in Ubuntu that will keep it connected even when logged out?
[00:04] <Ghostly> PJSingh5000, ...digging around thanks for the help so far :D
[00:04] <drRocktopus_> is there a way to see if you have made a connection to the ubuntu server via SSH before you type in password?
[00:05] <dr_willis> bjrohan: mine does that by default
[00:05] <YuriRev01> how do i use sshd
[00:05] <PJSingh5000> bjrohan, this is a fair and reasonable request.  I am about to log-out to test my user wall paper.  While I am on the log-in page, I'm going to see if I can select a network from the Network Manager applet at the top right.  I'll let you know, (if you haven't tried this already).
[00:06] <bjrohan> PJSingh5000: dr_willis: I know mine does not stay on, When logged in, I can ping and SSH into that computer, When logged out, computer on beside me, I can't get a ping return or log in
[00:07] <adamsilver> will this usb stick work on pc as well: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ?
[00:08] <jrib> !ssh | YuriRev01
[00:09] <dr_willis> bjrohan: weird. i just powerup and ssh in.
[00:10] <dr_willis> bjrohan: i thiught you can login to wireless at the lightdm screen also
[00:10] <dr_willis> im not even running a dm.
[00:10] <cads> hey guys
[00:11] <cads> can I make a bootable ubuntu USB device out of a smart phone?
[00:11] <xisor> hi i seem to be having a problem installing , or even booting a live disc/usb of ubuntu on my system
[00:13] <xisor> can anyone help me figure out how to fix it? i get the boot menu via usb just fine, but when i select an option, the screen goes all white and corrupted
[00:13] <xisor> its continuing to boot, but i get no display
[00:13] <PJSingh5000> I'm back.  Don't remember who was asking about the wi-fi network connection being active when logged out, but I see that you can select your network connection from the Network Manager on the log-in screen.  However, if you have a download occurring and you log out, I'd bet the download would be disrupted when you log out.
[00:14] <xisor> guess nobody can help =/
[00:15] <PJSingh5000> xisor, I think the installer can't handle your graphics display.
[00:15] <xisor> its a geforce 8700M
[00:16] <xisor> its a laptop
[00:16] <xisor> it does the same thing if i install with wubi, once it reboots it goes wonky and corrupted
[00:16] <PJSingh5000> xisor, When I had this problem, I had to pick some "edit comand" option and then I had to enter some parameter telling the installer which VGA mode to use.  Sorry, I don't remember more.
[00:16] <xisor> :(
[00:16] <YuriRev01> is there and commands to use a key for ssh im new to linux and not understanding
[00:17] <xisor> so i cant try out ubuntu
[00:17] <YuriRev01> i can read files but not write
[00:17] <dev_> does anyone know when steam will be released for linux
[00:17] <dev_> ?
[00:17] <blime> PJSingh5000, xisor: if you feed it vga=  with nothing defined, it'll provide a list of vga modes
[00:18] <xisor> can i feed it that with wubi? its not just the installer, wubi gives the same result
[00:18] <blime> xisor: i don't know anything about wubi
[00:18] <xisor> im assuming the problem is that the freeware driver cant understand how to drive my laptop display?
[00:18] <xisor> the open source driver i mean
[00:19] <YuriRev01> also how would i set the server to a static ip
[00:19] <xisor> is there some way to embed the official nvidia driver into the iso and have the installer use that from the get-go?
[00:19] <PJSingh5000> xisor, You could, but you have to set the VGA mode when you boot it.
[00:19] <xisor> every time i boot the OS?
[00:19] <xisor> forever?
[00:20] <blime> xisor: you'd modify your grub configuration to keep the settings
[00:20] <xisor> i have no idea what that even means i just want to try out ubuntu =/
[00:21] <PJSingh5000> xisor, let me see if I can find what that needs to be.  Does anyone here know how to modify the boot parameters on the live USB to set the VGA mode?
[00:21] <xisor> im assuming once i have it installed and booted and install the nvidia driver that the problem will go away?
[00:22] <YuriRev01> is there an easy way to add me as the only user with read/write access on ssh?
[00:23] <YuriRev01> i connect through sftp
[00:23] <PJSingh5000> xisor, you may have to change stuff in grub (like blime suggested) but FIRST you just want try Ubuntu.
[00:23] <xisor> yes
[00:24] <PJSingh5000> xisor,  first check out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/vga-boot-modes-to-set-screen-resolution/.  This lists some VGA settings.
[00:25] <xisor> ok ill try it
[00:25] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: do you mean a ssh key authentication? so you dont have to type a password to log in?
[00:25] <PJSingh5000> xisor, see this page for instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[00:26] <YuriRev01> correct
[00:26] <YuriRev01> cause right now anyone can view my files
[00:26] <PJSingh5000> xisor, Unfortunately, this is for an older Ubuntu installer.  I don't know how you change the boot parameters on the newer installer.
[00:27] <xisor> ok
[00:27] <Salman> Can someone help me? Some things in Lubuntu are not displayed correctly
[00:28] <dev_> salman what things are not displaying
[00:28] <Salman> I can't really explain but can i post a screetshot of PCManFM?
[00:28] <dev_> Screenshot
[00:29] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: you@yourcomputer:~ $ ssh-keygen -t rsa     this will give you two files in ~/.ssh/
[00:29] <Salman> dev_: http://imgur.com/3ViTD
[00:30] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: id_rsa  and id_rsa.pub
[00:30] <Salman> As you can see Lubuntu isn't displaying the folders
[00:31] <veryhappy> hi guys i wanted to get my sound over hdmi on my tv working and i read in the internet that i would have to try to completely remove pulseaudio to get alsa running but now i don't have any sound anymore. please help. thank you
[00:31] <dev_> so your icons arnt showing up did you install any updates recently?n
[00:31] <YuriRev01> and yourcomputer would be the ip of the server or the computer im connecting with?
[00:31] <Salman> I installed all the latest updates
[00:31] <lynx7os5> if you copy the contents of id_rsa.pub to the remote system and put it into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  you can then log into the remote system using that key.
[00:31] <Salman> but even before that i had the same problem
[00:32] <dev_> Where you having problems before the update?
[00:32] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: yes the one you're currently using,
[00:32] <Salman> I have a Nvida Quadro$ 580 XGL (old i know but thats why i installed linux so i can use this computer XD)
[00:32] <Salman> dev_: Yes i was having problesm before updating
[00:33] <lynx7os5> keep in mind that anyone with access to your id_rsa.pub file also has the same access to the remote system, so keep it safe..
[00:33] <ikonia> no they don't
[00:34] <ikonia> they need access to the private key
[00:34] <ikonia> and they need the passphrase for the private key
[00:34] <ikonia> the public key is just that..."public"
[00:34] <ikonia> not the public key
[00:34] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <lynx7os5> er, yea, sorry, ikonia is right
[00:34] <YuriRev01> im lost
[00:35] <lynx7os5> and as for the privelleges, i use openssh and i would check with /etc/ssh/sshd_config ( not sure of the location on ubunt sorry)
[00:35] <veryhappy> YuriRev01: get found :D
[00:35] <yeats> lynx7os5: that's where it is on ubuntu too
[00:36] <cmecca> hey all --- anyone ever seen "gss_create: Pseudoflavor 390003 not found!" in syslog before, regarding ldap+kerberos+autofs... everything works except the home dir's  when i su - user on the client machine, the home dir doesnt mount from the server, and thats the error in syslog
[00:36] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01:  maybe this link can help to clear what i was saying a little better then i could :\ http://sdf.org/?tutorials/SSH-SDF#public_key
[00:37] <Salman> I'll try figuring out the problem by myself
[00:37] <PJSingh5000> xisor, Great.. I just realized that the link I gave you (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions) is OK for the current version of Ubuntu.  You can get to the advanced page by pressing any key when you see little icons on the bottom.  (I hope you can at least see those icons, since you are having graphics problems).
[00:37] <YuriRev01> im not sure how to edit files
[00:37] <blime> YuriRev01: read this from top to bottom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[00:38] <blime> YuriRev01: editing files: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nano
[00:40] <xisor> ok
[00:40] <xisor> question, after i get it to install, how do i set it so it will also work once booted?
[00:40] <xisor> so i can install the nvidia drivers and stuff
[00:41] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: sudo nano -w /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?  also heres what mine looks like http://lynx7os5.mdns.org:12345/sshd_config.txt
[00:41] <dev_> xisor what are you asking about
[00:42] <ikonia> why are you editing sshd_config
[00:42] <ikonia> what are you actually trying to do ?
[00:42] <veryhappy> is there anybody who knows how i can get my ALSA working on my tv i don't have any sound at all. i'm using hdmi.
[00:43] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: the bottom has to do with a chroot enviro for a specified user...
[00:43] <YuriRev01> yea i want access just for me
[00:44] <YuriRev01> im getting permission denied when trying to save a key
[00:44] <YuriRev01> im pretty much getting permission denied for anything i try to do
[00:44] <sl00> How do I install a quantal package (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite3/3.7.13-1) if I have oneiric?
[00:44] <dev_> Thats sucks for you if you are getting permission denied
[00:45] <YuriRev01> all this server is hosting is an rcon program for a game server so it does not have to be secured with the best
[00:45] <YuriRev01> option
[00:46] <bjrohan> I have my command line commad written for recording my desktop. I would like to assign it to a hotkey in Ubunut, can anyone help me do this?
[00:46] <lynx7os5> the key will only allow you to log in and not have to use a passwd but others can log in with the passwd eh
[00:46] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: do you need to have ssh access then?
[00:46] <bjrohan> I would like to preferabbly press the hotkey once to start the ffmpeg, and press it again to stop.
[00:46] <YuriRev01> i have the server sitting next to me
[00:46] <xisor> well setting the vga mode didnt change a thing
[00:46] <YuriRev01> i jsut want to be able to upload files using filezilla sftp
[00:47] <xisor> does anyone have any idea why it isnt working?
[00:48] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: hmm, imho i would try to find an sftp program, do a little research and find the one best suited to my prefered setup.
[00:48] <dev_> filezilla is good
[00:48] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  give the channels details of what you are doing
[00:49] <xisor> oh, sorry :P
[00:49] <lynx7os5> YuriRev01: i would also not even host an ssh server if i didn't 'need' the remote access... but this is only my opinion....
[00:49] <xisor> well, i cant get ubuntu live to boot, because after choosing the option from the boot menu, it does some commandline stuff then goes to a corrupted white screen
[00:49] <Feynmann> *.*
[00:49] <xisor> its still DOING stuff, its just not apparently able to drive the display properly
[00:49] <YuriRev01> well i need to upload files to it somehow
[00:49] <xisor> i tried setting vga mode with vga= and it didnt help
[00:49] <Dr_Willis_> xisor: tried the nomodeset option yet?
[00:49] <PJSingh5000> xisor, you need to add the correct boot option to keep the screen from corrupting.
[00:49] <joggers> can anyone help with ubuntu 12.10?
[00:49] <xisor> no, what is that?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis_> !nomodeset | xisor
[00:50] <dev_> joggers what do you need help with
[00:50] <dev_> dont just ask for help
[00:50] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  i dont think the vga= option does anything these days on current releases.. i may be wrong
[00:51] <xisor> oh
[00:51] <xisor> well thats what i was told to try
[00:51] <YuriRev01> does anyone have vent or teamspeak i could talk to them on>
[00:51] <quantrabbit> i've run into roadblocks trying to rebuild the package php5 for precise.  Went through the usual: apt-get source php5, apt-get builddeps php5, etc.  First problem is when running debuild -us -uc.  I get this error: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: locales-all | language-pack-de
[00:51] <xisor> where in the boot options would i add nomodeset?
[00:52] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  you can do it from the grub menu, hit E to edit it.. add nomodeset -->   'quiet splash nomodeset'  in the options
[00:53] <xisor> grub isnt installed because its a livecd
[00:53] <Dr_Willis_> joggers:  you would get better help if you states the problem IN THE CHANNEL not msging people
[00:53] <xisor> maybe im just too stupid to use linux :(
[00:53] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  then you follow that GUide for nomodeset... it shows how to do it
[00:53] <Dr_Willis_> !nomodeset
[00:53] <xisor> problem is, after the installation is done, it seems to want me to opena  terminal after it boots the installed OS to do the changes
[00:53] <xisor> i cant get a terminal, i cant get display
[00:54] <xisor> i cant even use ctrl+alt+F2 to get a commandline
[00:54] <xisor> it sits at that screen
[00:54] <xisor> and does NOTHING
[00:54] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  then you try the nomodeset option after you install.
[00:54] <xisor> and how would i do that if i cant get the system to come up to make that change?
[00:54] <xisor> thats the problem
[00:54] <Dr_Willis_> Its at the GRUB menu after you install..
[00:54] <xisor> ok
[00:55] <PJSingh5000> Dr_Willis_, I agre with you.  Where does xisor set that?  xisor would have to mount the new disk, cd to the /usr/share/grub directory, and set it there, right?
[00:55] <Dr_Willis_> PJSingh5000:  you CAN edit the grub options From the GRUB boot menu
[00:55] <xisor> ill try nomodeset and see if i can even get the live USB to load
[00:55] <xisor> if i can ill be back, if not ill be back once again in windows
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  how did you install if you cant get the cd to load?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> Somthing is confseing here.
[00:56] <corp> Dr_Willis_: I think he didnt install anythin
[00:56] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis_ +1
[00:56] <xisor> i didnt yet
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> I hope hes not using WUBI...
[00:56] <PJSingh5000> Dr_Willis_, Ahhh.  I remember now.  Those changes are not committed to disk, though, are they?  (It's been a while since I've installed more than one OS on the same machine).
[00:56] <xisor> im trying to get the liveusb to load first
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> PJSingh5000:  one time use.
[00:56] <xisor> no, i tried wubi and ended up with the same corrupted crap, after the liveusb didnt work
[00:56] <xisor> and then i came here after removing wubi
[00:57] <xisor> so, im off to try nomodeset
[00:57] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  and your video card is?
[00:57] <xisor> and see if i can get something to happen
[00:57] <xisor> geforce 8700M
[00:57] <xisor> mobile chip
[00:57] <Dr_Willis_> xisor:  so after you boot. you will most likely want to install the 'nvidia-current' package for proper drivers
[00:57] <xisor> yes i assumed as much
[00:57] <xisor> first i need to get the liveUSB to function
[00:57] <Dr_Willis_> Unless its one of those dual-gpu optimus things
[00:57] <xisor> nvidia drivers is after an install
[00:57] <xisor> right?
[00:58] <Dr_Willis_> Yes.
[00:58] <dev_> installing packaged drivers for me didnt work
[00:58] <xisor> not that i know of, this laptop existed before all that junk
[00:58] <xisor> core2 duo 2.5ghz 4 gigs ram and 8700M
[00:58] <dev_> i still have a major bug that is when i use wifi it randomly stops working
[00:58] <xisor> its a behemoth of a laptop, a dell XPS
[00:58] <dev_> even though i have perfect connection
[00:58] <xisor> brb hopefully from the liveCD
[00:58] <Dr_Willis_> I had a toshiba with a 18In Monitor. ;) and 2 HD.. weighed like 18lbs.. ;P
[00:58] <veryhappy> please don't let me wait and admit if you don't have a solution for me on alsa. i can't stand to wait so long, then i rather change the room.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis_> veryhappy:  i dont even recall seeing the issue stated.
[00:59] <mickster04> veryhappy: also where would you go?
[00:59] <veryhappy> hardware?
[00:59] <PJSingh5000> veryhappy, you don't seem very happy! :) (Sorry).
[00:59] <Dr_Willis_>  #alsa   ;)
[00:59] <veryhappy> right now i don't sorry..
[01:00] <veryhappy> i was already writing my issue but thank you dr willis you gave me the best answer this day
[01:00] <mickster04> heh
[01:00] <Dr_Willis_> veryhappy:  thers askubuntu.com also and the forums
[01:00] <veryhappy> i'll go to alsa thank you
[01:00] <dev_> Ok veryhappy
[01:01] <dev_> d
[01:02] <xisor_> nomodeset does NOT fix it
[01:02] <xisor_> i can confirm that my usb stick isnt corrupt because it works in a virtual machine and the integrity check passes there
[01:02] <xisor_> so thats not it either
[01:02] <xisor_> so i have no idea what to do
[01:04] <mickster04> xisor_: you cannot boot into the usb stick?
[01:04] <Coxie> Fresh install 12.10, screen frozen at login, any ideas?
[01:04] <xisor_> correct, white corrupted screen instead of proper display
[01:04] <corp> xisor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=show&redirect=BootParameters
[01:04] <mickster04> Coxie: check the disk is good (and the image you downloaded)
[01:04] <corp> xisor: You can start with no X
[01:04] <mickster04> xisor_: then your BOIS might not like booting from the drive
[01:05] <Coxie> mickster04: How do I do that?
[01:05] <mickster04> try another drive and/or check your bios
[01:05] <mickster04> !md5
[01:05] <xisor_> mickster, thats not it, the boot menu comes up fine, it does the commandline stuff fine
[01:05] <xisor_> its having the problem when it comes to loading the display
[01:05] <Coxie> ubottu: Thx
[01:05] <mickster04> xisor_: boot menu? like try install etc?
[01:05] <corp> xisor_ try booting in text mode
[01:05] <xisor_> md5 check passes, integrity check on usb passes in virtual machine
[01:05] <xisor_> its NOT the stick
[01:05] <xisor_> corp, booting in text mode helps me how?
[01:06] <dev_> ubottu, What will the weather be like tomarrow?
[01:06] <dev_> ubottu, What will the weather be like tomarrow?
[01:07] <nullp0inter> i am having a weird problem where i cannot access certain URLs...if i do wget http://feeds.downrightnow.com/downrightnow?format=xml it times out...but this is not true for all URLs. also within PHP connectign to my email address via IMAP times out as well. how could i debug this problem
[01:08] <corp> xisor_, you can try to launch graphical mode from there
[01:08] <corp> xisor_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot
[01:08] <xisor_> i have no idea how to use a commandline ive never even used linux before
[01:09] <dev_> xisor then why are you using linux as all?
[01:09] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, do you have tow PCs, so you can chat here while on command line?
[01:09] <xisor_> no i only have this one pc
[01:09] <dev_> Lol im chatting froma command line
[01:09] <PJSingh5000> dev_, you you don't have to use command line to use linux.
[01:09] <xisor_> dev_ because everybody in this room, and everyone who develops these operating systems was new at one time as well
[01:09] <xisor_> EVERYONE starts somewhere
[01:09] <xisor_> thats kind of a terrible attitude to have towards someone new
[01:10] <dev_> Naw you just took it to heart
[01:10] <nullp0inter> anyone ever see these timeouts only affecting certain URLs
[01:10] <dev_> null no
[01:10] <nullp0inter> and i do not have a firewall
[01:11] <xisor_> could it be 12.10 specifically causing the issue PJSingh5000?
[01:12] <xisor_> linux mint 14 does the same thing but it is 12.10 based, should i try a different linux entirely and see if the live usb for that has the same problem?
[01:12] <Magoogle> Hey fellas
[01:12] <Magoogle> got a PPTP question
[01:12] <dev_> Xisor you can try using a lower version
[01:12] <chachin> hola people
[01:12] <chachin> oh hai capeta
[01:12] <chachin> dang it captain*
[01:13] <stirlingsilver> yo
[01:13] <xisor_> any disadvantages to using 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[01:13] <ArchIsTheTits> http://narf-archive.com/pix/cb59df8721dc0afe0634faedca15c0077bb43851.jpeg
[01:13] <xisor_> and if 12.04 does the same thing, should i go even older?
[01:13] <ArchIsTheTits> Hellooo.
[01:13] <chachin> hah stirlingsilver
[01:13] <Magoogle> Anyone have information for connecting to a PPTP VPN via terminal only with no GUI? PM me please
[01:13] <stirlingsilver> ohai
[01:13] <LigeiaX> sometimes lower is more stable
[01:13] <captain> I have a wireless card that is showing as activated in hardware devices, and I've also gotten it to install drivers successfully with ndiswrapper but i get no wlan0 device
[01:13] <dev_> xisor you can sure try it. If you are loading from usb why not
[01:13] <jrib> xisor_: software is 6 months older, but 12.04 will be supported for 5 years (so you can wait a long time before you need to upgrade).  12.10 has support for 18 months
[01:14] <xisor_> should i try something that isnt ubuntu at all to see if the same thing happens? would that help narrow down the cause at all?
[01:14] <dev_> Xisor just try a older version
[01:14] <LigeiaX> xisor_ you can if all else fails
[01:14] <jrib> ArchIsTheTits: don't post random links in this channel please
[01:14] <YuriRev01> how would i give myself and only me access to download/upload file to my server i use openssh
[01:15] <ArchIsTheTits> I promise you it's very relative.
[01:15]  * ArchIsTheTits dances
[01:15] <captain> ArchIsTheTits: it doesnt matter
[01:15] <ArchIsTheTits> Enjoy :D
[01:15] <ArchIsTheTits> http://narf-archive.com/pix/cb59df8721dc0afe0634faedca15c0077bb43851.jpeg
[01:15] <xisor_> ok ill download 12.04 and see if it does the same thing
[01:16] <dev_> arch dont post links
[01:16] <chachin> he left
[01:16] <xisor_> question, will i be able to get the newest software and things with 12.04 or am i stuck since its not the newest version?
[01:16] <dev_> I just noticed
[01:16] <stirlingsilver> yeah he bailed
[01:16] <chachin> hai jrib master
[01:16] <dev_> you can update xisor
[01:16] <Magoogle> anyone know how to connect to a PPTP vpn via terminal?
[01:16] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, stick with it.  I remember being where you are, and I remember all my struggles with back screens.  Eventually, you'll figure it out.  You might try 12.04.  If you have two USB sticks, keep your 12.10 and put 12.04 on the other one.  See if it works for you.
[01:16] <LigeiaX> YuriRev01, what sort of server are you running? (besides ssh)
[01:17] <dgbaley27> Does anyone know where I can get libvirt 1.0 for ubuntu 12.04? I ppa I guess...
[01:17] <xisor_> it only takes a couple minutes to make a usb stick out of any bootable iso
[01:17] <xisor_> so im not worried about that
[01:17] <corp> PJSingh5000, +1 some years ago it was a nightmare XD
[01:17] <dev_> xisor then try it
[01:17] <xisor_> downloading 12.04 amd64 desktop iso
[01:17] <Magoogle> anyone tried ZorinOS?
[01:17] <xisor_> 10 minutes and i can try again
[01:17] <Magoogle> its off of ubuntu
[01:18] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, ok.
[01:18] <Magoogle> i really like its GUI
[01:18] <LigeiaX> xisor_ I missed the part where you said what your problem was
[01:18] <xisor_> corrupted display where a desktop should be when booting my ubuntu live usb
[01:18] <xisor_> ligeiax
[01:18] <YuriRev01> ubuntu server lts
[01:19] <LigeiaX> xisor_ that sounds more like a video problem. what kind of video are you running
[01:19] <corp> LigeiaX, geforce 8700M
[01:19] <xisor_> geforce 8700M
[01:19] <xisor_> its not THAT old, it cant be incompatible
[01:19] <Coxie> OK I'd like to check the md5sum of the disc but I can't access my Windows drive now.
[01:19] <xisor_> its still supported in nvidia driver releases even, so yea
[01:19] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, I found this on askubuntu.  Did you try this?... http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[01:20] <ClientAlive> does anyone here happen to run eclipse? #eclipse is like a gost town over there and I really need help.
[01:20] <lynx7os5> how can i recursively chmod --7 * but keep the settings for owner,group?
[01:20] <Coxie> THe link in GRUB is broken and when I change boot order in BIOS I get a grub rescue prompt
[01:20] <xisor_> yes that tells you to use nomodeset
[01:20] <xisor_> i tried that, nothing
[01:20] <ClientAlive> attempt to install linux tools results in unmet dependency. I've been googling around for over an hour now and not finding anything specific to my problem. Please help! Details (including installed on my system and more) can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/CzxeiDN6   <-   please help!
[01:20] <LigeiaX> YuriRev01, I meant what type (samba? ftp? ...)
[01:20] <dr_rocktopus> having a bunch of trouble diagnosing an SSH problem --> works internally but not outside router…anyone have any ideas?
[01:21] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, I use eclipse.  I can probably help you with install, but if it's more advanced than that, I may be no help.
[01:21] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: have you forwarded port 22 on your router?
[01:21] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: I would like that if you can try - thank you
[01:21] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: yes...
[01:21] <Coxie> Ubuntu broke my pc
[01:21] <LigeiaX> xisor_ in that case, it doesn't seem like much chance 12.04 will do it better (though I'm often wrong)
[01:22] <dev_> coxie how
[01:22] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: unless you've done something very strange (and then you would know), it's likely an issue with your router configuration
[01:22] <xisor_> so what other option do i have?
[01:22] <xisor_> a quick google tells me that people DO install linux on this laptop
[01:22] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: that is what I figured, but I'm wondering how to diagnose
[01:22] <LigeiaX> try the 12.04, maybe I'm wrong
[01:22] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: for the record. This eclipse was not installed through the package manager. It was downloaded from their site. It's Juno.
[01:22] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, it soulds like you've already installed eclipse, but are having trouble installing some tools into it?
[01:22] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: well what happens when you try to connect?
[01:22] <dev_> linux on a laptop lol
[01:22] <Coxie> dev_  The link in GRUB to my windows drive doesn't work. Changing boot order to windows drive primary now gives me a grub rescue prompt.
[01:23] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, I just installed Juno myself.
[01:23] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: I get permission denied on ssh and unable to connect on telnet
[01:23] <Rizki> hi,,,
[01:23] <LigeiaX> xisor_ they may have had linux running on your laptop, but was it ubuntu?
[01:23] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: yes, this is one of two things I've tried to install and get problems (the other one is the e4 xml editor)
[01:23] <xisor_> no idea
[01:23] <corp> xisor_, try different distros too
[01:23] <xisor_> but this laptop isnt even that old
[01:23] <xisor_> its a dell XPS M1730
[01:23] <xisor_> core 2 duo
[01:24] <molqr>  it is possible to display the time elapsed since screen lock was activated using Ctrl+Alt+L in gnome?
[01:24] <LigeiaX> xisor_ some linux distros don't use a gui for install, they use text mode
[01:25] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: also I can see my apache and tomcat servers no problem with the same style of port formwarding
[01:25] <xrs> "Unable to delete partition: Unrerognized disk label"
[01:25] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: could it be something your ISP blocks?  You might try a different port
[01:26] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: I have to leave now for a bit
[01:26] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: I tried mapping 2000 on the router to 22 on the server
[01:26] <Coxie> Can anybody help me get to where I can use my Windows drive again?
[01:26] <Coxie> Ubuntu done goofed
[01:26] <dev_>  Have you tried grub repair
[01:26] <xrs> trying to make a headless server and its just been a damn nightmare. gave up on debian, it just refuses to "mount CD-ROM" so now im trying 'buntu and it wont partition
[01:26] <dev_> To fix your windows location
[01:26] <microm> I have a very slow startup (close to 1.5 minutes to boot, it used to be super-fast, why is it slow now? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1451272/
[01:27] <Coxie> dev_ Can I use supergrub2disk ?
[01:27] <dev_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:27] <xrs> insert you windows disk, boot from that and run startup repair
[01:27] <dev_> try that
[01:28] <xrs> how can i delete partitions if gparted reports "unrecognized disk partition"
[01:28] <xrs> disk label*
[01:28] <xrs> ]/join #kubuntu
[01:28] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: fwiw (may have forgotten to mention this in that paste) what I've done to try solve the problem is...  (1) sudo apt-get install lttng-tools <install was successful> (2) sudo apt-get install antlr <don't recall if it worked from the command line or not> (3) opened synaptic, did search "antlr" and checked everything that cam up on the list, installed it. I'll sit back and wait for you now though - just thought I should mention.
[01:29] <xisor_> ok brb trying 12.04 usb
[01:29] <dev_> xisor ok
[01:29] <LigeiaX> xrs, so something like "mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/sr0 /mntpt" fails in debian?
[01:30] <xrs> it was the graphic installer, no shell
[01:30] <microm> I disabled ipv6 but dmesg still shows "eth0: no IPv6 routers present" and appears to waste 50 seconds to figure it out...
[01:31] <LigeiaX> xrs, what does their graphic installer give for options?
[01:31] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, When I install eclipse manually, I usually add tools from the Help | Install New Software Option inside eclipse.
[01:31] <Coxie> My Windows disk doesn't have startup repair
[01:31] <xrs> options? i havent gotten anywhere.
[01:31] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: let me check that
[01:32] <corp> Coxie, try dev_ option
[01:33] <YuriRev01> i cannot upload/edit files to my server under any folder
[01:33] <xrs> Coxie,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[01:34] <Coxie> Ok you're missing the point, I can't access either drive at all
[01:34] <xrs> paste that into konsole
[01:34] <Coxie> THere is no way to run commands
[01:34] <xrs> use a live USB or CDS
[01:34] <Coxie> lol What console
[01:34] <corp> Coxie, from a livecD
[01:34] <xrs> from a live disk dude
[01:34] <dev_> yea you can do it from a live disc
[01:34] <Coxie> kk
[01:35] <xrs> come back in once you got a live disk loaded and ill give you the command again
[01:36] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: If I do a search for "tools" under all available sites I get main headings: CDT Optional features -> sub category (1 item) -> Unified Parallel C Berkley UPC Toolchain Support, E4 Toolkit Model (one of the things I've tried to install before and get problems), E4 Tools, E4 XWT, Linux Tools, and Linux Tools Sources <these latter being the problem I'm here for>
[01:37] <dev_> Ill be back later, switching rooms
[01:37] <dev_> ok back :)
[01:38] <blackshirt> hello
[01:39] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: "Hide items that are already installed" is checked.
[01:39] <LigeiaX> YuriRev01, what protocol were you using when you try to transfer files?
[01:39] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, Usually, the "work with" URL is provided on the web site that supplies the tool.  So I get it from there, instead of the defaults shown in Eclipse.  Do any of the tools you want to use provide that?
[01:41] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: I'm trying to recall where I got my update site urls for linux tools. Let me check and check if there is a better source.
[01:41] <dev_> its always funny seeing a car backing up a hill only to go up a hill forward :p on snow
[01:42] <xisor> im back
[01:42] <xisor> 12.04 boots the live USB with no tweaking at all, so what gives on 12.10?
[01:42] <corp> xisor, nice.
[01:42] <xrs> wasnt here to hear the problem
[01:42] <dev_> xisor congrats
[01:42] <LigeiaX> xisor, you could upgrade after install
[01:42] <xisor> was speaking more to all these guys who were helping me sorry xrs
[01:42] <xrs> k
[01:43] <xisor> Ligeiax, wouldnt that cause the same error that a native 12.10 does?
[01:43] <xisor> now i have another problem, sort of
[01:43] <xisor> my built in wifi doesnt work i had to dig out a usb stick, any way to fix?
[01:43] <LigeiaX> but since 12.04 has a longer support life than 12.10, no need, 12.04 is probably fine
[01:43] <xisor> not installing this if the hardware isnt gonna work
[01:43] <xrs> 12.10 doesnt give enough improvement to make it worth too much hassle
[01:43] <dev_> install proper drivers
[01:44] <xisor> and how do i see if my wifi is supported/
[01:44] <xisor> or even what wifi it is?
[01:44] <xrs> lspci
[01:44] <LigeiaX> xisor, after install your wifi may work
[01:44] <dev_> pgo to the wifi cards site and look for packaged drivers
[01:44] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: It seems I got the url from here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Linux_Tools_Project/PluginInstallHelp  <- which came from a link here: http://www.eclipse.org/linuxtools/downloads.php
[01:44] <craniumslows> Good Evening.  Is there gwibber support here or is there another room for that?
[01:44] <corp> xisor, lspci | grep -i wireless
[01:44] <xisor> dev, its dell, and i highly doubt they have drivers for linux but i can look
[01:44] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: is that the right place to get it?
[01:44] <xisor> corp, what do i do with that information?
[01:45] <corp> xisor, you get your wireless card info
[01:45] <dev_> Its toward the bottom if i remember right
[01:45] <xisor> yes, but where do i put that in it?
[01:46] <xisor> i found a terminal thing
[01:46] <corp> xisor, console or terminal
[01:46] <xisor> that command does nothing
[01:46] <corp> xisor, yep
[01:46] <LigeiaX> xisor, you would take the chipset it says your wifi uses, and look that up online for linux support
[01:46] <xisor> it doesnt output anything
[01:46] <dev_> yea what ligeiax said i was saying that before
[01:46] <xisor> it doesnt even show my usb wifi in a list
[01:47] <xisor> but that CLEARLY works or i wouldnt be here
[01:47] <LigeiaX> oh it usb wifi? then use lsusb
[01:47] <xisor> no, the built in wifi is what im trying to find
[01:47] <dev_> no he needs help with chip
[01:47] <xisor> it doesnt see it
[01:47] <xisor> its old as dirty
[01:47] <xisor> dirt*
[01:47] <dev_> try and disconnect usb and use command?
[01:47] <xisor> the usb one works fine, but i dont wanna use it
[01:49] <PJSingh5000> ClientAlive, I'm not familiar wit the tools you want to install.  But just to give you an example, I like to install the SQL Explorer plugin into Eclipse.  So I go to the Eclipse SQL Explorer site (http://eclipsesql.sourceforge.net/).  There, at the bottom of that page in the "Eclipse Update Site" section, they give me the URL I would type into the "Work with" text box.  You don't have anything lie that for the tools you need to inst
[01:49] <PJSingh5000> all?
[01:49] <LigeiaX> xisor, are you able to get a terminal window at all?
[01:49] <xisor_> back
[01:49] <xisor_> yes
[01:49] <xisor_> still nothing
[01:49] <xisor_> just typing lspci shows a ton of hardware though
[01:49] <dev_> look at bottom
[01:50] <xisor_> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[01:50] <dev_> yea
[01:50] <jrib> dr_rocktopus: and?  what happened?  Are you even seeing the connection attempts in the server logs?
[01:50] <xisor_> confirmed thats not the usb because lsusb lists my ralink usb stick
[01:50] <xisor_> is that wifi supported in linux?
[01:50] <xisor_> ?
[01:50] <dev_> look on google
[01:50] <ClientAlive> PJSingh5000: ok, thanks. I'll check it out
[01:50] <dev_> type that and look for linux support
[01:50] <dr_rocktopus> jrib: I messed up the A record in the redirect :(
[01:50] <dr_rocktopus> so stupid! lol
[01:51] <corp> xisor, have you enable wifi?
[01:51] <YuriRev01> i need help
[01:51] <xisor_> corp, what do you mean enabled?
[01:52] <xisor_> the network button at the top of the screen says firmware missing for the other wifi chip
[01:52] <dev_> is wifi enabled
[01:52] <xisor_> btw
[01:52] <YuriRev01> im trying to be able to upload/download file to my ubuntu server right now i get permission denied
[01:52] <Coxie> OK I'm back, I checked the md5sum of the disc and the iso and they're both good
[01:52] <xisor_> clearly or the usb stick wouldnt be working
[01:52] <dev_> look on google
[01:52] <corp> dev_, maybe thats the problem
[01:52] <Coxie> So something went wrong in the installation
[01:52] <Coxie> Or something
[01:52] <Coxie> But I'm in livecd right now
[01:53] <dev_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=563649
[01:53] <matbee> Hey there, any idea why my ultrabook won't boot up Ubuntu? It's a blank screen... I tried replacing quiet splash with nomodeset to no avail.
[01:54] <dev_> xisor http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5636495
[01:54] <xisor_> ok so, is that going to be hard to do once i install this?
[01:54] <iceroot> http://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1747660173332716773   steam is open beta now
[01:54] <xisor_> assuming since i have video on the liveusb that an install will be fine also, so its safe to go ahead and do it?
[01:54] <dev_> no it wont
[01:54] <xisor_> also, will it mess up my windows 7?
[01:55] <Coxie> Yes
[01:55] <dev_> yea install and then go back to that link
[01:55] <xisor_> i will return here after installing so i can get the link again, also, it wont break my windows 7 right?
[01:56] <xrs> it will
[01:56] <dev_> if you install currectly
[01:56] <xrs> you will need to fix the windows boot loader when ur done
[01:56] <dev_> if not then you will have to use boot repair
[01:56] <xisor_> ok so... what do i do now?
[01:56] <xisor_> oh
[01:56] <xrs> do it then run boot repair
[01:56] <LigeiaX> windows 7 doesn't like coexisting with anything else. might be better if you installed to a usb key
[01:56] <xisor_> how do i do boot repair?
[01:56] <corp> what?
[01:56] <xrs> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[01:56] <dev_> i am using windows 7/ ubuntu latest atm.
[01:56] <xrs> paste that command
[01:56] <LigeiaX> but windows doesn't *like* it
[01:56] <xisor_> so i WONT have to repair windows 7 dev?
[01:56] <xisor_> im not installed yet xrs
[01:57] <corp> me too, there is no problem at all.
[01:57] <dev_> If you install currectly in the settings yes, if you mess up you will then need to go back to live disc and run boot repair
[01:57] <xisor_> should i check the box for download updates while installing?
[01:57] <kevinch> hi all, looking for a solution that would allow my mac and PC to backup to my ubuntu server.  any suggestions that are relatively straight forward to setup?
[01:57] <xrs> in the future you will want to install windows after linux. if you install linux after windows you will need to run boot repair
[01:57] <kevinch> automatically incrementally
[01:57] <dev_> make sure you have a partition for linux and another for swop
[01:57] <xrs> rsync
[01:57] <dev_> wwap
[01:57] <dev_> swap
[01:58] <corp> xrs, what?
[01:58] <xisor_> installing windows after would erase grub from the boot sector of the drive i would assume
[01:58] <xisor_> rendering linux inoperable
[01:58] <xisor_> unless im missing something with my noobish-ness
[01:58] <Coxie> Assuming Ubuntu will even work once you install it
[01:58] <dev_> xrs not exactly true i had windows 7 and instlal linux fine after
[01:58] <iceroot> xrs: complety wrong, first install windows, then install linux
[01:58] <Coxie> Mine hasn't even made it past login screen yet
[01:58] <kevinch> xrs: what about windows?
[01:58] <Guest96298> is there any CUPS wizard in the room? I need help with a custom backend that has been created following this: http://alien.slackbook.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=slackware:cups#installing_a_new_cups_backend
[01:58] <YuriRev01> how do i give myself access to upload file to my server which sits next to me
[01:58] <iceroot> xrs: every other order will overwrite grub2
[01:59] <xisor_> anyways, do i want to check the box that says download updates while installing in the installer dev_?
[01:59] <KI4RO> xisor_, First windows then linux
[01:59] <corp> xrs, I think he meant contrary
[01:59] <ikonia> YuriRev01: how do you want to upload ?
[01:59] <dev_> doesnt matter i didnt
[01:59] <LigeiaX> xisor_ the others may disagree, but I think it's much simpler to install to a usb drive and run off that
[01:59] <xrs> either way, windows doesnt like to co-exist. the reason i saw linux first is most people use windows as their primary OS and thats where most of their data is held
[01:59] <dev_> Its simpler with windows 7 installed already lig, and since he already has it installed
[01:59] <xisor_> i only have the one, and its running the live environment ligeiax
[02:00] <chachin> is taken 2 worth  a watch?
[02:00] <Coxie> No
[02:00] <chachin> I too believe its just way too early for a sequel of the movie :\
[02:01] <matbee> Any hints why I'm getting a blank screen after install wubi ubuntu?
[02:01] <PJSingh5000> YuriRev01, if your server is Ubuntu, and you are on Ubuntu, ope Nautilus file manager.  Key in CTRL-L.  Then type ssh://<server_name>.local.  You should have an account on your server.  Just enter your user id and pass for the server.
[02:01] <dev_> chaichin please stay on topic this is for support
[02:01] <chachin> o.O
[02:01] <chachin> wtf im on #ubuntu
[02:01] <chachin> lol
[02:01] <chachin> sorry
[02:01] <xisor_> the installer has chosed my 2nd hard drive when i chose to install alongside windows 7, will it create swap and all that automatically?
[02:02] <Guest96298> I got an "/usr/lib/cups/backend/pdf failed" error message when trying to print a test page, error_log shows this: failed to CreateDevice: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:device id 'cups-Printer' already exists
[02:02] <corp> xisor_, I dont remember i nver used the automatic option :(
[02:02] <dev_> i didn't to that option and i hear alot don't recommend that way, do it manually
[02:02] <dev_> create partition in windows and another for swap and configure the locations manually
[02:04] <PJSingh5000> dev_, automatic should work fine.  I do it that way in virtual machines, and it goes smoothly.
[02:04] <dev_> PJ when i needed help with this when i first started out, others recommended not to do it that way cause of problems with will rise later on
[02:05] <corp> Im with dev_
[02:05] <xisor_> it is installing now
[02:05] <xisor_> wish me luck that it works :D
[02:05] <LigeiaX> luck
[02:05] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, good luck.
[02:06] <corp> xisor_, it will work dont worry ;)
[02:06] <xisor_> according to the tiny terminal below the installer thing it created a 4 gig swap, resized the ntfs partition on my 2nd hard drive, and created something called ext4 with the rest of the space
[02:06] <xisor_> so im assuming all is normal?
[02:06] <dev_> You may have problems later on xisor
[02:06] <dev_> That is if its even  sucessful
[02:06] <corp> xisor_, I would do it manually and in the first drive
[02:06] <corp> xisor_, anyway it will work I guess
[02:06] <dev_> Yea thats the way i did it corp
[02:06] <PJSingh5000> dev_, I don't disagree.  It's just that xisor_ just wants to try Ubuntu.  I didn't want to make it more complicated than necessary.
[02:07] <xisor_> wait problems because of what dev_?
[02:07] <corp> PJSingh5000, thats true, too.  Anyway as dev_ , I find manually better.
[02:08] <dev_> Ether way if he just wants to try it, and later on has problems, he'll be right back here asking for same help. Thats why i said do it the other way now so problems dont rise later on
[02:08] <xisor_> 2nd drive was empty anyway so the worst it can do is i have to format it and start over right?
[02:08] <xrs> pretty much
[02:09] <dev_> yea
[02:09] <LigeiaX> except for the boot sector on the first drive
[02:09] <xisor_> main windows 7 drive is too small for both OS i think, its a 128 gig SSD, 2nd drive is 500 gig
[02:09] <strays> scusi please. does anyone know anything about telstra usb modems and ubuntu?
[02:09] <xrs> you dont want to part out an SSD
[02:10] <dev_> Well you could fit both just wouldnt have much room for media.
[02:10] <roasted> hello!
[02:10] <roasted> Anybody know of a way to push my USB webcam and USB microphone streams to be, well, streamable from another ysstem on the LAN?
[02:10] <matbee> I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to boot ubuntu on my ultrabook. Always booting blank.
[02:10] <corp> roasted, vlc i believe
[02:11] <matbee> with nomodeset, I get the wall-of-text, starts to load gnome and then blank.
[02:11] <xisor_> which we will see in just a minute
[02:11] <xisor_> if i can learn ubuntu ill replace windows with it entirely, i dont really play games or anything on here
[02:11] <xisor_> IF it works properly
[02:11] <gooshie> matbee have you tried linux live usb creator?
[02:11] <roasted> corp: I heard that too, but I wasn't sure how I'd actually get the"server" to launch the video/audio to other systems. I've only dne it in reverse, where the client is using VLC to receive the stream.
[02:11] <dev_> matbee have you tried restarting
[02:11] <matbee> dev_, yes.
[02:11] <matbee> gooshie, no..
[02:12] <LigeiaX> xisor_ much as I hate saying it, it's always good to keep a working windows for just in case times
[02:12] <gooshie> matbee u can put the same live distro on the usb drive and then they have an install icon on desktop
[02:12] <xisor_> well i have the dell install cds that came with it
[02:13] <dev_> If i predict the future right alot of people will be going to linux :)
[02:13] <xisor_> so i can always just use those and restore it to factory if i have to
[02:13] <matbee> I'm going to keep different boot options and hope
[02:13] <corp> roasted, I really cant recall how it was but mainly is playing /dev/video0 and streaming it
[02:13] <corp> roasted, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6297348/vlc-record-webcam-and-stream-to-chrome-linux
[02:14] <matbee> good thing this thing is an ultrabook and only takes 10s to boot :P
[02:14] <dev_> I dont shut off my laptop that much to need a "UltraBook"
[02:14] <corp> dev_, XD
[02:15] <LigeiaX> dev_ especially with how windows 8 has a publsihed backdoor to allow MS (or any hacker) to remotely change code on your windows install
[02:15] <corp> LigeiaX, Windows per se is a trojan XD
[02:16] <xisor_> mac would be more popular than windows if they let you install it on everything instead of their own overpriced stuff
[02:16] <xisor_> dev_ alot of people will go to linux when EVERY game has a linux version and its as simple as point and click, i dont think too many people will deal with learning complex stuff
[02:17] <xangua> !ot | xisor_ dev_
[02:17] <Magoogle> I have searched online and on forums for this.. But all i can find is how to setup a PPTP server or on how to turn on a previously made VPN conneciton with the GUI from the terminal.. I NEED to know if anyone can help me with creating a new VPN PPTP Connection via terminal only on 12.10
[02:17] <corp> xisor_, yeah, sometimes I missed playing some games, anyway, the linux hard stuff was years before now its much easier
[02:18] <avickery> First lynx now irssi, this is a banner evening!
[02:18] <corp> Magoogle, vpnc
[02:19] <LigeiaX> avickery, what do you mean?
[02:19] <dev_> avickery ?
[02:19] <Magoogle> Corp - THANKS! that turned up much better google results!
[02:19] <xrs> scary thought: HR Block is highing technicians. one of the requirements is knowledge of Win95 & Win2k
[02:19] <corp> Magoogle, you welcome ;)
[02:19] <avickery> First time using a text browser since 1994 and same with a text IRC client, very cool.
[02:19] <dev_> You are using irssi?
[02:19] <avickery> Yep
[02:19] <avickery> on Xubuntu 12.10
[02:19] <corp> Magoogle, vpnc --help will be good too
[02:20] <dev_> Same here
[02:20] <avickery> I'm really enjoying this learning curve. Haven't been excited about computing in a long time.
[02:21] <poz> hello, i need help. My audio is making a popping sound
[02:21] <LigeiaX> avickery, "links" is also good :)
[02:21] <poz> I dont know how to make it stop
[02:21] <avickery> I'll check it out. How is it different from lynx-cur
[02:21] <LigeiaX> avickery, in "links" it's text mode, but the mouse actually works
[02:22] <avickery> Where's the fun in that? It's like cheating on your keyboard.
[02:22] <poz> how to access advanced sounds settings
[02:22] <poz> ?
[02:22] <xisor_> its installed, rebooting so i can get that link for my wifi :)
[02:22] <nullp0inter> does anyone know how i can force my box to prefer IPv4 over IPv6 DNS lookups?
[02:22] <dev_> Ok xisor
[02:23] <w0rm-_x> SetHandler server-info
[02:23] <LigeiaX> don't give it a ipv6 dns server?
[02:24] <nullp0inter> LigeiaX : so I cannot have both enabled on my machine? That is, having an IPv6 ip associated with it
[02:25] <LigeiaX> oh, I thought you were saying you didn't want the ipv6
[02:26] <nullp0inter> LigeiaX: , I don't mind having IPv6 enabled on my server, but its causing timeouts when trying to access sites even using wget...when I run wget forcing it to use ipv4 it works fine, but then this is also occuring in PHP connections, so I need a global way to stop it from doing this
[02:26] <PJSingh5000> xisor_, This is Great!  Welcome to Ubuntu!
[02:27] <poz> Hey, does anyone know why the auto mute is causing my speakers to pop?
[02:27] <poz> like all the teim
[02:27] <poz> time
[02:27] <poz> about once ever five seconds
[02:27] <poz> every*
[02:27] <nullp0inter> LigeiaX I can;t find anything about this on goog;le
[02:27] <PJSingh5000> Has anyone popped in who has knowledge on how to get the user wallpaper to show up on the LDM login page, if a wall paper is selected from the user's Pictures?  This si *supposed* to work, and it used to work for me, but now it stopped working.  I don't know what I might have done to inhibit this functionality.  Now, I only get the default Ubuntu wallpaper on the login screen.
[02:27] <avickery> quit
[02:28] <avickery> exit
[02:28] <avickery> damnit
[02:28] <Dr_Willis_> poz:  ages ago there was a power-saveing issue that shut down the speakers. when they came back on - they would pop
[02:28] <tomreyn> avickery: try that with a leading slash
[02:28] <corp> nullp0inter, found this I hope it helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/32298/prefer-a-ipv4-dns-lookups-before-aaaaipv6-lookups
[02:28] <avickery> Thanks man
[02:28] <Dr_Willis_> poz:  i think it was only affecting some intel chipsets
[02:28] <LigeiaX> nullp0inter, yes ipv6 is very problematic. looks like you have a choice to make about whether it's omportant to you to have it available
[02:28] <dev_> ./exit?
[02:29] <Magoogle> Corp - Im still only seeing information with VPNC for GUI installation.. Any help?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis_> PJSingh5000:  using encrypted home can break that.
[02:29] <poz> Dr_Willis_: If it was ages ago then why might the issues to be around? I mean the auto mute was on by default (I just reinstalled ubuntu today, it also did this last time as well)
[02:29] <Dr_Willis_> poz:  differnt chipset similer bug.
[02:30] <PJSingh5000> Dr_Willis_, my home is not encrypted.  Also, I have read privileges for group and others o nthe image I selected.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis_> poz:  ive seen similer bugs on other disrtos with some sound cards also.
[02:30] <corp> Magoogle, have you tried vpnc --help ?
[02:30] <xisor> weirdest thing.... halfway through the install now, the built in wifi starts working on its own
[02:30] <xisor> any idea wtf just happened to make it work?
[02:30] <poz> oh okay
[02:30] <dev_> xisor what happen?
[02:30] <poz> So anyone else try ubuntu 12.10 with a nvidia card?
[02:31] <corp> xisor, maybe trying to search for updates
[02:31] <poz> It fails to work with mine
[02:31] <LigeiaX> xisor because it installted the wifi suplicant (probably)
[02:31] <xisor> oh
[02:31] <tjbiddle> anyone happen to know if the tool dependencies differ for 12.04 from 10.04 for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile ?
[02:31] <poz> I had to go back to 12.04 lts
[02:31] <xisor> well, the installer is doing updates and stuff now
[02:31] <xisor> i guess it detected the chip and found a driver for it during the setup when it did detecting hardware?
[02:31] <XRS1> on boot
[02:31] <XRS1> linux understands the internet at a very fundamental level
[02:32] <LigeiaX> xisor, for wifi it's not enough that it detected the wifi card, there is also some extra software that needs installing before the wifi can be used
[02:32] <xisor> but the usb wifi one worked without it
[02:32] <LigeiaX> but that software is included on the install iso
[02:33] <dev_> yes ligeiax is right
[02:33] <xisor> ok
[02:33] <xisor> so i dont need that link and it will work on its own once it reboots into the installed OS?
[02:33] <nullp0inter> : LigeiaX after making the changes to gai.conf do i need to restart any services?
[02:33] <dev_> If you experienced problems with it or bugs you may need that link later on
[02:33] <dev_> so save it
[02:34] <dev_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5636495\
[02:34] <LigeiaX> nullp0inter, don't know. I disabled ipv6 altogether
[02:34] <xisor> how will i save it in a read only live environment? :P
[02:34] <dev_> Remember it the old way
[02:34] <corp> nullp0inter, I pointed you to the page. I havent read that much
[02:35] <xisor> im sure ill have questions once this thing is actually running
[02:35] <xisor> lol
[02:35] <LigeiaX> xisor, the pen and paper editor
[02:35] <corp> nullp0inter, I would say yes
[02:35] <xisor> ligeiax isnt that what they used before man discovered fire?
[02:35] <LigeiaX> probably
[02:36] <xisor> and the microchip?
[02:36] <xisor> lol
[02:36] <poz> anyone else have a problem with ubuntu 12.10 and nvidia?
[02:36] <xisor> poz, dont even get me started there lol
[02:36] <dev_> nope
[02:36] <corp> poz, xisor had some
[02:36] <nullp0inter> LigeiaX : thanks a lot that finally worked, GoDaddy is useless
[02:36] <poz> lol okay, I just wanted to know if I was the only one. I tryed to install it three times (twice with usb and once with a dvd) and could not get it to work
[02:36] <LigeiaX> Yes, they are useless
[02:37] <xisor> corp, still have is more accurate, considering im installing 12.04
[02:37] <xisor> poz, what happened to you?
[02:37] <xisor> specifically
[02:37] <xisor> and what nvidia do you have?
[02:38] <ItsMeLenny> could someone give me a hand please; i cant install the 32bit version of the wx libs on my 64bit ubuntu, when i go to install the i386 version (downloaded from launchpad) it tells me its already installed
[02:38] <BigGreenCanoe> Having an issue upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, the upgrade manager says that several files are missing and quits.
[02:38] <poz> well in grub, the "ubuntu" did not work (mostly just a black screen, sometimes it showed an [ ok ] or a command promp). if I went to advanced ubuntu options I could get it to load, but after updating it was just a small screen
[02:38] <poz> after logging in, it never loaded anything
[02:39] <xisor> brb, rebooting into installed 12.04, hopefully!
[02:39] <poz> I could right click but no unity, no place to open a terminal... no top bar thingy. nothing...
[02:39] <poz> if i did not update, i could run unity, but when I tryed to open firefox it would crash, go black and then go to the log in screen
[02:40] <sasori1> hey guys any vbox gurus in here????
[02:40] <poz> it had a number of issues
[02:40] <poz> I have nvidia 680
[02:40] <poz> I forget what it is call, it has been awhile since I had to know. how can i look it up?
[02:41] <puppy_parade> made a software raid, performance isn't what I was expecting. Is there a good place for how to tune/configure it?
[02:41] <puppy_parade> raid 5*
[02:42] <ikonia> puppy_parade: how did you make it ?
[02:42] <ikonia> puppy_parade: what controller are they on
[02:42] <puppy_parade> motherboard, mdadm
[02:42] <BigGreenCanoe> nevermind, I'll deal with it later, I have a final in 9 hours.
[02:43] <ikonia> puppy_parade: what type of controller
[02:43] <ikonia> puppy_parade: what are you doing to measure the performance ?
[02:43] <puppy_parade> ubuntu disk measurement tool, palimpset?
[02:43] <majuscule> Hi, I've installed mysql-server on an ubuntu 12.10, and i can't seem to log in to the database. What might be going wrong? I never set a password.
[02:43] <puppy_parade> no controller
[02:43] <puppy_parade> just software raid
[02:43] <ikonia> puppy_parade: there has to be a disk controller
[02:43] <ikonia> thats how you access your disks
[02:43] <puppy_parade> onboard Intel
[02:43] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade sata? pata? scsi?
[02:43] <puppy_parade> sata
[02:44] <ikonia> puppy_parade: foret the measuremurement tool
[02:44] <ikonia> puppy_parade: worry about real life usage
[02:44] <puppy_parade> thanks for the pantload of help
[02:44] <ikonia> puppy_parade: drop the attitude and you'll get more
[02:44] <xjiujiu>  Can I ask a question about my centos system?
[02:44] <corp> majuscule, mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD   try that in console
[02:44] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade with software raid on sata, there isn't a whole lot to tune
[02:45] <ikonia> xjiujiu: no
[02:45] <puppy_parade> all I am seeing is chunksize
[02:45] <ikonia> puppy_parade: what file system is on it, how big are the disks, how many disks, how big is the block size on the array and then on the file system
[02:45] <ikonia> what stripe method did you use
[02:45] <poz> how do I set default applications?
[02:45] <LigeiaX> xjiujiu, there is a centos channel on freenode
[02:45] <xjiujiu> where?
[02:45] <LigeiaX> #centos
[02:45] <xjiujiu> I can't find it.
[02:46] <mazda01> i just installed steam beta and now chromium-browser keep segfaulting with this error. pool[4892]: segfault at 10 ip 000000000042e1a7 sp 00007fb2f3ffe9e0 error 4 in gnome-keyring-daemon
[02:46] <ikonia> xjiujiu: #centos
[02:46] <majuscule> corp: i get an accessed denied error
[02:46] <puppy_parade> no FS, 2TB, 1TB blatters, 4 disks
[02:46] <mazda01> any thoughts?
[02:46] <ikonia> puppy_parade: no file system ?
[02:46] <EagleScreen> poz in System Settings -> Details
[02:46] <ikonia> puppy_parade: how are you using the disks ?
[02:46] <xjiujiu> ikonia: It's need register...
[02:46] <puppy_parade> the benchmark is using raw disk writes
[02:46] <poz> thanks eaglescreen
[02:46] <ikonia> xjiujiu: then register
[02:46] <ikonia> puppy_parade: focus on real world usage
[02:46] <puppy_parade> orly?
[02:47] <ikonia> puppy_parade: you're chasing numbers, rather than genuine performance
[02:47] <ikonia> puppy_parade: are the disks 1 TB ?
[02:47] <myk_robinson> apparently I f-ed up my partition tables.. My home partition is only showing about 60GB free, but I have a blank partition showing over 600GB free.. How do I move my /home partition to this apparently unused partition?
[02:47] <puppy_parade> no, 2TB, 1TB platters
[02:47] <ikonia> puppy_parade so each disk is 2TB
[02:47] <ikonia> myk_robinson: no need for the language
[02:47] <puppy_parade> and I don't think I want to be changing parameters on the RAID once I put data on it
[02:47] <myk_robinson> ikonia: sorry :(
[02:47] <puppy_parade> so, benchmarks for now.
[02:48] <ikonia> puppy_parade: benchmarks are not going to be a good way to measure the file system
[02:48] <myk_robinson> the LVM is showing the partition structure correctly, but the df command is not
[02:48] <ikonia> puppy_parade: each disk is 2TB correct ?
[02:48] <puppy_parade> yes
[02:48] <ItsMeLenny> could someone please biddle biddle help me
[02:49] <ikonia> puppy_parade: and there are 4 disks, so that = 6TB device
[02:49] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: biddle biddle ? what ?
[02:49] <ikonia> correct ?
[02:49] <ItsMeLenny> just a little help
[02:49] <puppy_parade> yes, that would be what raid 5 does.
[02:49] <mazda01> anyone else have issues after they installed steam?
[02:49] <ItsMeLenny> im trying to install the i386 libwx on 64bit ubuntu
[02:49] <mickster04> mazda01: nah it's ok here
[02:50] <ikonia> puppy_parade: what is it your not liking in the benchmarks, give me something to reference
[02:50] <mazda01> mickster04, are you using chromium-browser version 20.0.1132.47~r144678
[02:51] <puppy_parade> well, I was getting 120/120 per drive average. Now I am not getting close to double that
[02:51] <puppy_parade> it gets better if I increase the write size
[02:51] <ikonia> puppy_parade: why do you expect double that ?
[02:51] <Tecan> anyone here have usermod for apache2 enabled ?
[02:51] <mazda01> everytime I try to open chromium-browser it crashes completely back to the greeter for me to relogin
[02:51] <Tecan> userdir
[02:51] <ItsMeLenny> http://paste.debian.net/217419/
[02:51] <puppy_parade> Raid 0 scales close to linearly
[02:51] <mazda01> this is in kern.log pool[4892]: segfault at 10 ip 000000000042e1a7 sp 00007fb2f3ffe9e0 error 4 in gnome-keyring-daemon[400000+da000]
[02:52] <ikonia> puppy_parade: raid 0 is a stripe
[02:52] <ikonia> puppy_parade: raid 5 is not
[02:52] <Tecan> i cant get rid of a 403 error for my home html folder
[02:52] <puppy_parade> I expected raid 5 to  as well,  with some slowdown
[02:52] <puppy_parade> raid5 is stripe
[02:52] <ikonia> puppy_parade: you can't expect raid 5 to performa anthing like raid 0
[02:52] <puppy_parade> with parity
[02:52] <mazda01> i have an apport report also
[02:52] <ikonia> puppy_parade: no, it's not,
[02:52] <ikonia> the parirty is an overhead,
[02:52] <puppy_parade> yes, it really is striped
[02:52] <Jgmgd>  0
[02:52] <mickster04> mazda01: Chromium 22.0.1229.94 Ubuntu 12.10
[02:52] <ikonia> you can't compare raid 0 and raid 5
[02:52] <puppy_parade> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_5
[02:52] <lostfile> can i connect to juniper VPN on ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jgmgd> Win
[02:52] <LigeiaX> puppy_aprade, if you got a SAS controller, it could handle your sata drives and give you much better performance
[02:53] <ikonia> puppy_parade: I know what the raid levels are
[02:53] <puppy_parade> LigeiaX, would you say it would be closer to raid 0 on n-1 drives?
[02:53] <Jgmgd> Any1 here?
[02:53] <mazda01> mickster04, you sure that's chromium and not google chrome?
[02:53] <puppy_parade> I was expecting more like 2.5x with 4 disks in raid5
[02:54] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, yes, because a SAS controller could do hardware raid, not just software
[02:54] <ikonia> puppy_parade: things to consider, you're using reasonable size disks, maybe increasing the chunksize can help, also the parity mode, chanking it to symmetric may help if your motherboard can deal with it as you're on an internal controller
[02:54] <mazda01> mickster04, plus you're on 12.10, im on 12.04
[02:54] <ikonia> puppy_parade: your expactations are way off
[02:54] <ikonia> puppy_parade: also what cpu/ram setup have you got ?
[02:54] <puppy_parade> yeah, I think it might be worth the money LigeiaX, I was expecting something better since I have a pretty beefy machine
[02:54] <puppy_parade> i7 3930k, 16GB of RAM
[02:55] <ikonia> puppy_parade: ok great, so no bottleneck on cpu wait there
[02:55] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, LsiLogic makes a very nice SAS controller card
[02:55] <mickster04> mazda01:  chromium-browser --version
[02:55] <mickster04> Chromium 22.0.1229.94 Ubuntu 12.10
[02:55] <ikonia> puppy_parade: somethings to consider
[02:55] <puppy_parade> LSI is what I was looking at
[02:55] <ikonia> puppy_parade: (apart from the optiosn I've just given you)
[02:55] <xjiujiu> I can't accept the  email for register ...
[02:55] <puppy_parade> but that would about double the cost of everything
[02:55] <ikonia> puppy_parade: if you put a file systme on it and access as a file systme your performance will increase as you'll have file system caching
[02:55] <myk_robinson> is it normal for the disk usage analyzer and the logical volume manager values to not agree?
[02:56] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, but a SAS controller could use your existing sata drives at least
[02:56] <puppy_parade> why would the motherboard have anything to do with it ikonia?
[02:56] <ikonia> puppy_parade: because you're using the internal bus to manage your disks
[02:56] <puppy_parade> LigeiaX, you mean upgrade to RAID in place?
[02:56] <LigeiaX> yes
[02:56] <puppy_parade> wow
[02:57] <ikonia> puppy_parade: so how linux supports your controller and throughput is a factor
[02:57] <ikonia> puppy_parade: and the cpu is used to manage the raid array,
[02:57] <puppy_parade> the bandwidth on my board is pretty insane.
[02:57] <ikonia> puppy_parade: yes, it's a reasonable spec system, hence why I said "no bottleneck there on cpu"
[02:59] <puppy_parade> also, the writes are slower on raid 5 then they were with a single disk
[03:00] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, that's because with software raid, every write is multiple writes
[03:00] <puppy_parade> ooh
[03:00] <puppy_parade> does the HW card help with that much?
[03:01] <jakepetroules> what's the easiest way to mount an NFS share in linux without resorting to terminal commands?
[03:01] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, because with hardware raid, one write to the controller turns into multiple writes in parallel that the system doesn't need to care about
[03:02] <xisor> back, installed 12.04 :D
[03:02] <LigeiaX> puppy_parade, while with software raid, the multiple writes are sequential
[03:02] <puppy_parade> LigeiaX, thanks for the input; I didn't know the performance delta would be so large
[03:02] <xisor> apparently i needed the nomodeset option still, so, how do i install nvidia drivers so i dont need it anymore?
[03:02] <puppy_parade> yeah, with the slower SATA bus in between
[03:03] <Guest52463> ciao a tutti!
[03:03] <tjbiddle> anyone know what generates /usr/include/linux/limits.h ? i made a change to /etc/security/limits.conf and limits.h was improperly generated (c preprocessor not prefixed with #)
[03:05] <LigeiaX> xisor, you have two nvidia drivers to choose from, the opensource and the close source
[03:05] <xisor> ok
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> tjbiddle: seems like it may be installed with the kernel source
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> you can try dpkg -S <fullpathtofile>
[03:06] <SolarisBoy> tjbiddle: linux-libc-dev: /usr/include/linux/limits.h
[03:07] <matbee> so I got my ultrabook booting ubuntu desktop with acpi=off, but now I'm left with a problem of a VERY slow wifi connection...
[03:08] <LigeiaX> wifi is usually slower than people would like
[03:08] <SolarisBoy> lot of overhead
[03:08] <jakepetroules> i tried `sudo smbmount "\\\\host\\share" /mnt/emptyfolder` but i'm getting an error saying 'mount error(22): invalid argument'
[03:08] <matbee> it takes about 2 minutes to just connect
[03:09] <tjbiddle> solarisboy: it is - it's part of the kernel headers, but the changes i made to limits.conf apparently change limits.h as well
[03:09] <ItsMeLenny> how do i make a link which makes it look like one lib is in another location
[03:09] <SolarisBoy> i dont think so tjbiddle
[03:09] <tjbiddle> solarisboy: don't think what?
[03:09] <SolarisBoy> that changing a conf would adjust a header file in the kernel source tree
[03:10]  * tjbiddle shrugs
[03:10] <tjbiddle> far as i know - it did. unless someone shelled in and made the change, lol.
[03:10] <LigeiaX> ItsMeLenny, try "man link"
[03:10] <tjbiddle> i'll experiment to make sure though.
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> what would changing the header file did unless someone recompiled the kernel?
[03:10] <SolarisBoy> other than affect anything trying to build from that file in the future in some include statement
[03:11] <tjbiddle> (hence how i found it originally - couldn't install a ruby gem that was using it)
[03:11] <ItsMeLenny> LigeiaX, ta
[03:11] <tjbiddle> really curious on what the hell made the change though
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> you could try to --reinstall the dev package if thats the case i guess
[03:11] <tjbiddle> already did
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> =(
[03:11] <tjbiddle> it's all fixed
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> o cool lol
[03:11] <tjbiddle> i'm just really curious on why it changed
[03:12] <SolarisBoy> no clue atleast afaik
[03:12] <tjbiddle> heh
[03:12] <tjbiddle> someone in #linux suggested it was glibc
[03:12] <SolarisBoy> possible
[03:12] <SolarisBoy> thats a seperate package though - did you upgrade it or something?
[03:12] <tjbiddle> i'm wondering if i upgraded that at somepoint - and it rebuilt limits.h when doing so?
[03:13] <Jikai> Hi! Anyone knows how to change file size units to IEC's binary prefix?
[03:13] <SolarisBoy> tjbiddle: i enabled change logs on my system so i could if needed go back and see the history of changes
[03:14] <SolarisBoy> dont use it much but i could see it being helpful - not sure of any other way to see a specific change history like that other than if you had you / under version control lol
[03:15] <AbeFM> Anyone around feel like pitying me then telling me to reinsall?
[03:15] <tjbiddle> solarisboy: i'll just have to try to reproduce :p
[03:15] <LigeiaX> AbeFM, ok, if that's what you want :)
[03:15] <AbeFM> Having annoying seemingly minor issue logging in, but there it is - I can't use the machine.
[03:16] <SolarisBoy> ya - be careful though with glibc lols
[03:16] <LigeiaX> AbeFM, we pity you, so reinstall :)
[03:16] <lostfile> hic, i have to use dual boot because i cant connect to DC through Remote VPN. Junos Pulse is not work on Linux. Can anyone establish connection to Juniper VPN on Ubuntu!? :(
[03:16] <tjbiddle> solarisboy: i only screw around on vms - no worry :)
[03:16] <AbeFM> Whew, thanks. Wish someone had told me a couple days ago. It takes two hours to get up and running and I'm probably 15 into this.
[03:17] <SolarisBoy> tjbiddle: thats the way to go ;>
[03:17] <AbeFM> Should I try to retell everything, or just post a link to forum thread?
[03:17] <AbeFM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12413210
[03:18] <tjbiddle> abefm: you're using a GUI - that's your problem ;)
[03:18] <AbeFM> ha. Indeed. Makes it easier to run all those windows applications.
[03:19]  * tjbiddle cringes
[03:19] <SolarisBoy> lol well thats a good reason if any
[03:19] <AbeFM> Mainly, trying to watch movies.
[03:19] <user55> gui is the future?
[03:19] <comica> Hey any gtk programmers here?
[03:19] <AbeFM> it's the past, and the past is here
[03:19] <comica> Or c programmers?
[03:19] <ItsMeLenny> comica #gtk
[03:20] <LigeiaX> AbeFM, so your problem is it takes 2 hours to boot up?
[03:20] <comica> ItsMeLenny: I'm trying to override a gtk function with LD_PRELOAD.  Here my function at pastebin:
[03:20] <comica> http://pastebin.com/W0ffY6RP
[03:21] <comica> It won't compile: override.c:8:21: fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[03:21] <ItsMeLenny> comica, i know nothing with gtk, i was directing you to the gtk irc
[03:21] <AbeFM> no no, not at all. It comes right up, brings me to login screen (normally I have that bypassed for the GF who's of the macintosh persuasion). Type in password, get black screen for a couple seconds and it returns to login screen
[03:22] <comica> thanks.
[03:22] <LigeiaX> obviously wong password
[03:22] <AbeFM> wrong password gets a wrong password complaint
[03:22] <AbeFM> guest account does same thing
[03:22] <AbeFM> can log in on command line
[03:22] <comica> No such channel, #gtk
[03:22] <AbeFM> lots of details @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12413210
[03:22] <comica> Do you know the server?
[03:23] <AbeFM> (and on askubuntu, and on linuxquestions, etc etc)
[03:23] <LigeiaX> so, I would guess X isn't starting your video driver correctly
[03:23] <AbeFM> Specific errors of note:
[03:23] <juniour> hi
[03:23] <AbeFM> abe@HBO:~$ cat .xsession-errors initctl: Unknown job: lightdm-session The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart job, but gnome-session --session=ubuntu is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[03:23] <juniour> i am not able to install addtional drivers
[03:24] <ItsMeLenny> comica, #gtk-devel
[03:24] <comica> ok, thanks
[03:24] <AbeFM> can I TELL if it's the video driver? Every time I try in fallback graphics mode it gets caught up trying to use fsck.ext2 to examine system drive
[03:24] <hmm> hi, I am having a really annoying problem.  For some reason ubuntu 12.04 has decided to clone another mac address in my network on its own.  Is there a way to change it back?
[03:24] <AbeFM> which doesn't work
[03:24] <juniour> giving error take a look at /var/log/jockey.log
[03:24] <ItsMeLenny> or comica #gtk+
[03:24] <xman23> quick question: If I have a trash HDD and can't get a replacement today, can I run Ubuntu 12.10 off of a DVD-R I burned the .iso onto an hour ago?
[03:24] <XRS1> want to go from wifi router to laptop to second router via ethernet to second laptop via wifi. how would i do this?
[03:24] <comica> ok thanks
[03:24] <hmm> it's causing tons of collisions
[03:25] <XRS1> you can run it live. set up ranfs to save to USB
[03:25] <juniour>  i am not able to install addtional drivers
[03:25] <dev_> xmas yes you can
[03:25] <XRS1> ramfs*
[03:25] <LigeiaX> AbeFM, that's not good if you're getting disk corruption
[03:25] <AbeFM> I'm not sure if I am
[03:25] <juniour> giving error take a look at /var/log/jockey.log
[03:25] <poz> Hello, I need some serious help with a dual moniter display
[03:25] <poz> nvidia graphics card
[03:25] <xman23> One second...
[03:25] <juniour> ATI
[03:25] <AbeFM> tought I was, but it's got virtual partitions or whatever they are called
[03:26] <AbeFM> abe@HBO:~$ sudo fsck -n /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) Warning!  /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root is mounted. Warning: skipping journal recovery because doing a read-only filesystem check. /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root: clean, 346460/1684256 files, 1778855/6725632 blocks
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> hmm: do you use interfaces file or network-manager or other for network?
[03:26] <hmm> i can use either
[03:26] <poz> who is up for the challenge ?
[03:26] <hmm> I added stuff to the interfaces file but that doesn't change it back
[03:26] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: can you break to a terminal and umount the root lvm?
[03:26] <hmm> it's driving me crazy.
[03:26] <AbeFM> sure - wouldn't I have no OS then?
[03:27] <juniour> plz helpme
[03:27] <juniour> ??
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: no you would be in /bin/sh or such
[03:27] <AbeFM> I'm logged in via SSH, so just "sudo umount " path as above?
[03:27] <xman23> Okay. It says: Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key. I tried digging around in BIOS for a bit and it says that my primary boot option is the DVD...
[03:27] <hmm> is there a way you can figure out if the old mac address is still located on the network card?
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: youll need to do it from boot up
[03:27] <AbeFM> sudo umount /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root
[03:27] <SolarisBoy> you can either do init=/bin/sh and boot or boot into recovery mode
[03:27] <poz> here is my problem. I have a dissociation between display and control. I have to click on a black left monitor and display on the right
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> once your in - switch to root unmount the lvm and run fsck on the device in /dev/mapper/**lvmname**
[03:28] <poz> all I can see on the left monitor is the mouse
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> but anyway -- it said it's clean actually now that i read it
[03:28] <poz> clicking on the right monitor does nothing
[03:28] <AbeFM> slightly lost here.
[03:28] <AbeFM> you want me to boot in recovery mode? What are you trying to get at? I can boot off live CD or pendrive too
[03:28] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: so nevermind - whats the actual problem?
[03:28] <PJSingh5000> .quit
[03:29] <AbeFM> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12413210
[03:29] <AbeFM> won't log in
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM:  clean, 346460/1684256 files, 1778855/6725632 blocks || it just ran fsck but it was clean anyway
[03:29] <LigeiaX> hmm, that's weird
[03:29] <hmm> it is weird..
[03:29] <poz> can you guys help me with my problem after his?
[03:29] <hmm> I can't figure out why it would do it in the first place
[03:29] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: which one do you get the pam error or th acpi one?
[03:30] <LigeiaX> hmm, so it's copying another machine's mac address from your nic?
[03:30] <AbeFM> Which pam error? You mean from forum post?
[03:30] <SolarisBoy> AbeFM: yes
[03:30] <hmm> yeah.. but it now seems to be permanent
[03:30] <hmm> if I load up win7 it's the same
[03:30] <hmm> if I run a livecd it's the same
[03:30] <hmm> it doesn't make any sense
[03:30] <LigeiaX> hmm, and you're sure it wqasn't that way before?
[03:31] <AbeFM> both perhaps? I'm running this command which basically runs around and grabs error messages from a variety of logs (suppose I should have it collect .Xauthority too) - see next message
[03:31] <hmm> yeah...
[03:31] <LigeiaX> hmm, what kind of nic is it?
[03:31] <AbeFM> MYLOG=/media/HBO-RAID/RAID-Storage/MyLog$(date +%Ss%Mm%Hh.%d-%m-%C%y).log; echo '['"code"']' >> ${MYLOG} && uname -a >> ${MYLOG} && lsb_release -a >> ${MYLOG} && for LOGFILE in $(ls /var/log/*.log); do sudo grep -iHw 'segfault\|warning\|error\|critical\|lightdm\|\(WW \)\|\(EE\)' $LOGFILE | tee -a ${MYLOG}; done && echo '['"code"']' >> ${MYLOG}
[03:31] <hmm> it's whatever is on my laptop?
[03:31] <hmm> it's wired
[03:32] <hmm> not sure what brand it is
[03:32] <hmm> oh wait.. it's atheros
[03:32] <dev_> gotta love errors
[03:32] <AbeFM> no errors actually show up on the terminal. Could I do like a "restart lightdm" in verbose mode?
[03:32] <LigeiaX> hmm, it is possible for a driver to do this, but this is the first time I've heard of it happening
[03:32] <hmm> haha... yeah.. that's what I thought
[03:33] <AbeFM> full output of that script is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cNNdi1RWLPL9CqCPG1LJ89wARLFk45rHt3BQ9xD6pYA/edit
[03:33] <hmm> it was working until I had to reinstall 12.04..
[03:33] <hmm> I know it's cloning because I noticed in my router an old entry for the computer.. and the mac address was different
[03:33] <LigeiaX> hmm, it is possible to change it back, but that would require some hacking
[03:33] <AbeFM> I've seen lots of people with the issue - all have stuff I've either eliminated, or they gave up and reinstalled. :-)
[03:34] <hmm> will it permanently change it back?
[03:34] <hmm> because the same mac address is now showing up when I boot win7 or linux mint, or ubuntu
[03:34] <LigeiaX> hmm, you'd need to use a hacked version of the driver to deliberately write the original mac address back to the card's eeprom
[03:35] <hmm> ugh... that's going to be hard to find right?
[03:35] <LigeiaX> hmm, and the details of that are beyond my skills
[03:36] <LigeiaX> hmm, it might be easier to get rid of the other ethernet card that it's copying
[03:36] <hmm> the other one is an old laptop that I use for internet radio
[03:36] <hmm> perhaps that would be easier...
[03:36] <yankees9920> hello, i just installed 12.10 on a new pc i built that has AMDs integrated graphics. I'm using the motherboard's HDMI out but HDMI audio does not show up in the sound settings
[03:37] <hmm> any idea why something like this would even happen?
[03:37] <AbeFM> (ehternet issue) - some routers are made to pick up mac addresses - perhaps his card has the same option, already built in?
[03:37] <LigeiaX> hmm, or you could use a usb thernet for the old laptop
[03:37] <LigeiaX> hmm, sort of like plug in a usb ethernet to it, and sddenly no more conflict
[03:37] <hmm> perhaps... do you know why I'm not able to even change the mac address temporarily on the atheros card?
[03:38] <LigeiaX> hmm, when drivers do stuff like this, it's an accident, they aren't usually designed to rewrite mac addresses
[03:40] <hmm> I have under the /etc/network/interfaces hwaddress  ether "mac address"
[03:40] <hmm> when I restart the network.. it says ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[03:40] <LigeiaX> hmm. it wouldn't be that simple if it's also effecting windows
[03:41] <hmm> yeah... I know..
[03:41] <hmm> but it seems like I can't even clone a different address either
[03:42] <yankees9920> I tried running XBMCBuntu and the audio worked just fine there
[03:43] <LigeiaX> hmm, I just thought of a solution, but it would be severe and maybe risky
[03:44] <hmm> what does it involve?
[03:45] <LigeiaX> hmm, when you flash your computer's main bios, often times you need to enter a parameter for telling it the mac address of the builtin ethernet.
[03:45] <hmm> ohh.........
[03:45] <hmm> hmm
[03:45] <hmm> actually.. I just noticed that I typed something wrong in the interface file...  so now I can clone an address!
[03:45] <LigeiaX> hmm, so in theory you could flash your bios and reprogram the mac address back to it's orignal state
[03:46] <hmm> do you know if amd bios normally allow you to enter in a new mac address?
[03:47] <Magoogle> anyone with knowedge on how to setup and connect to a PPTP vpn via terminal, could use a hand!
[03:47] <LigeiaX> hmm, actually the bios on my machine does allow you to enter a new mac address, even without flashing anything
[03:48] <hmm> oh cool lemme see if mine can too
[03:50] <DredTiger> Anyone done a dist upgrade from quantal to raring? If so, how's it going?
[03:50] <xait91> hello!
[03:51] <NCS_One> hi
[03:51] <NCS_One> this new ubuntu DM really sucks on my laptop
[03:51] <yankees9920> Can anyone help get my HDMI audio working?
[03:51] <NCS_One> alot of times it starts breaking
[03:51] <DredTiger> NCS_ONE: DM?
[03:52] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, what is the problem?
[03:52] <NCS_One> Descktop Manager
[03:52] <NCS_One> DredTiger: ^^
[03:52] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, you have the option of using others
[03:53] <yankees9920> I had an installation of XBMCBuntu running and audio worked fine, I reformatted to install vanilla ubuntu 12.10 and now my HDMI audio device is not even showing in the sound settings
[03:53] <yankees9920> using integrated audio
[03:53] <DredTiger> NCS_One: which DM are you using? Which version of Ubuntu?
[03:53] <NCS_One> LigeiaX: do you know why ubuntu changed it, is the new gnome that bad?
[03:54] <NCS_One> DredTiger: ubuntu 12.04
[03:54] <NCS_One> DredTiger: unity DM
[03:54] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, does the sound show up using "lspci"?
[03:54] <DredTiger> I believe Unity became the default back in 11.04
[03:55] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, if you don't like unity there are other dm's to choose from
[03:55] <hmm> ligeiax: okay weird.. so after I cloned the address back.. and rebooted it's showing the old mac address again both under win7 and linux......
[03:55] <LigeiaX> hmm, excellent, case solved :)
[03:55] <yankees9920> LigeiaX, yeah i see 2 entries for AMD audio devices
[03:55] <hmm> can changing the interfaces really do that?!
[03:55] <DredTiger> They wanted to deliver a simple, unified interface for netbooks, laptops, desktops and even tablets
[03:55] <LigeiaX> hmm, apparently so
[03:56] <hmm> linux can be scary haha
[03:56] <yankees9920> also with 'aplay -l' I see  2 records for HDA ATI HDMI
[03:56] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, so the sound card is being seen by the system
[03:57] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, perhaps you could check whether it is seen by alsa?
[03:57] <DredTiger> so, anyone here done a dist-upgrade from quantal to raring?
[03:58] <yankees9920> LigeiaX, in alsamixer I see 2 SPDIF ports under the HDMI card - I'm guessing 1 for the onboard display port and 1 for my HDMI port
[03:59] <yankees9920> The second was muted which i just turned off, but still not showing in sound settings after a forced reload
[03:59] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, it's good that alsa is seeing the audio. so there must be a configuration somewhere between alsa and the desktop
[03:59] <NCS_One> LigeiaX: its not that I don't like it, some times when I change desktop or access Dash Home it starts breaking and I have to hit the power bottom for my laptop to turn off
[04:00] <AbeFM> sniffle.
[04:01] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, for whatever reasons it's not some treaon against ubuntu to try a different dm. Maybe you'd like xubuntu with xfce?
[04:01] <yankees9920> LigeiaX, hrmm its a vanilla install :/
[04:02] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, I don't know, I'm just grateful that my old Santa Cruz works right
[04:02] <yankees9920> haha
[04:02] <mladoux> exactly, I love Ubuntu, hate Unity with a passion. Thankfully, it's Linux and I have a choice.
[04:03] <Cantide> i have a problem on 12.04 - no sound, despite it picking up my sound card
[04:03] <Cantide> checked alsamixer, checked everything ._.
[04:03] <yankees9920> Cantide, welcome to the club :)
[04:03] <OerHeks> !raring | DredTiger
[04:03] <Cantide> haha
[04:04] <Cantide> it worked yesterday! and i don't recall changing anything! -_-;;
[04:04] <cookie> hai o:
[04:05] <kanyl> how do I restart apache?
[04:05] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, why not try my favorite DM, Afterstep :)
[04:05] <mladoux> did you try opening up terminal and running alsamixer to check the volume levels there? I'd try tweaking with that. I'm not sure if it's installed by default.
[04:05] <ghostd0g> from a terminal how can i verify how ubuntu sees a usb key ... would it be in the /dev ?
[04:05] <mladoux> sorry, that was at Cantide
[04:05] <Cantide> mladoux, yeah, i checked alsamixer several times ._.
[04:06] <mladoux> Alright, well that's all I got, I never got the hang of sound systems, sorry.
[04:06] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g, yes, and it would also show up in "lsusb"
[04:06] <ghostd0g> thanks Ligeia
[04:06] <yankees9920> mladoux, in alsamixer i cant seem to edit the sound settings for my spidf output, just my analog one
[04:06] <ghostd0g> Ligeiax
[04:06] <NCS_One> LigeiaX: :)
[04:07] <LigeiaX> :)
[04:07] <mladoux> yankees9920, I really suck at sound system. I'd google your sound card model and ubuntu. I really have no idea how to fix that.
[04:08] <n00bz> hello
[04:08] <mladoux> hola n00bz
[04:08] <ghostd0g> hmm /dev/lsusb no such directory
[04:08] <Cantide> i think my problem may be related to a kernel update
[04:08] <Cantide> but i've not idea how to go back to the previous one to test
[04:08] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, but seriously, Afterstep is lighterweight than xfce and very stable
[04:08] <n00bz> 'llo mladoux
[04:09] <mladoux> Cantide I think you can get to it from the grub menu.
[04:09] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g. no "lsusb" is a console command
[04:09] <mladoux> on reboot.
[04:09] <Cantide> oooh yeah!! why didn't i think of that -.- and how do i access the grub menu again?
[04:09] <mladoux> reboot
[04:09] <mladoux> and it should present itself for a few seconds
[04:09] <ghostd0g> oh no i need to run this "mke2fs /dev/sdz1" where sdz1 is the usb stick
[04:09] <Cantide> it doesn't unless i push something, but i forgot the key
[04:10] <mladoux> just hit your down arrow when it comes up to go into selection mode and pause the timer.
[04:10] <NCS_One> LigeiaX: on openbsd I used FVWM window manager :)
[04:10] <mladoux> you can also edit your grub timeout...
[04:10] <mladoux> just a sec
[04:10] <ghostd0g> i just am having trouble seeing where ubuntu sees the usb
[04:10] <LigeiaX> NCS_One, cool. I tried openbsd, but it always crashed before it finished booting
[04:11] <mladoux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:11] <mladoux> there you go
[04:11] <DredTiger> LigeiaX: I loved WindowMaker back in the day
[04:11] <mladoux> that'll tell you everything you never wanted to know about configuring grub on ubuntu Cantide
[04:11] <Cantide> thanks '-';;
[04:12] <yankees9920> Would AMD/ATI gfx card drivers potentially help my audio issue or do they strictly affect gfx?
[04:12] <NCS_One> LigeiaX: I have one home server with it working for more that 3 years
[04:12] <xisor> hi im back again.... lol
[04:12] <ghostd0g> is there a terminal command that will list all physical disks ?
[04:12] <UltimaKR> hey i just got to this site is this the place to go for help installing ubuntu/xubuntu?
[04:12] <mladoux> just search for timeout to get to the section you want
[04:12] <xisor> i have another problem, the same one someone else had earlier
[04:12] <mladoux> also look at changing the default kernel
[04:12] <xisor> i installed the nvidia driver and now the system boots and stays at a blank desktop with nothing on it
[04:12] <mladoux> you'll want to test it of course before you do that.
[04:12] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g, "dmesg | less" should tell you
[04:12] <xisor> i had to google a shortcut to load a terminal using my phone and then load firefox from there to get here lol
[04:13] <xisor> how do i fix my issue?
[04:13] <ghostd0g> Ligeiax kk thank again
[04:13] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g, there will be a lot more than just the disks
[04:14] <UltimaKR> when i try to install ubuntu i select the "install ubuntu" option and then all that comes up is a black screen with a blinking cursor...then a series of numbers and letters shows up...does anybody know what to do?
[04:14] <Cantide> timeout is set to 10 and uncommented..
[04:14] <Cantide> hmm, i think the problem is elsewhere
[04:14] <xisor> LigeiaX: can you help me fix my problem? i installed nvidia driver and now the system boots to a blank desktop with the wallpaper, but nothing else
[04:14] <LigeiaX> xisor, you're going to have to find some way to get a console screen to fix this
[04:15] <UltimaKR> can anybody help me with my problem?
[04:15] <xisor> already did that LigeiaX , ctrl+alt+t = terminal, i googled it hehe
[04:15] <n00bz> i've never used linux before, installed ubuntu yday, and can't get my internet to connect, can anyone help, pls.
[04:15] <Cantide> mladoux, i'll try shift and esc, apparently those may reveal the menu
[04:15] <Cantide> bbl
[04:15] <DredTiger> cat /proc/scsi/scsi will show all "scsi" devices
[04:16] <UltimaKR> i have no idea how to do the install...i get a blinking cursor and it doesnt work
[04:16] <LigeiaX> xisor, so you will need to "cd /etc/X11" and manually edit the nvidia driver of the config files
[04:16] <xisor> ok, edit it with what?
[04:16] <xisor> is this a common issue or something?
[04:16] <LigeiaX> xisor, well most people like "vi" but I think it's cryptic
[04:17] <DredTiger> xisor: vi, emacs, nano....
[04:17] <xisor> no i mean, what do i change?
[04:18] <UltimaKR> liegeiax do you know how to get past the screen with the blinking cursor?
[04:18] <ghostd0g> Ligeiax ok although i am sure the info might be in that .."output" I am sure there is a easier way to find what i need ... i need to run this command "mke2fs /dev/sdz1" where sdz1 is the usb ... the issue is i am unable to determine what the usb is actually called on my system ... I am trying to follow this http://www.ve3syb.ca/software/bootableusb.html
[04:18] <LigeiaX> xorg.conf
[04:19] <xisor> there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[04:19] <LigeiaX> oh, I forgot, I put my own xorg.conf there
[04:19] <mladoux> xisor, that's default
[04:19] <mladoux> do nvidia-xconfig as root
[04:19] <mladoux> so
[04:19] <mladoux> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:19] <xisor> ok it wrote  anew file
[04:19] <xisor> what now?
[04:19] <mladoux> if it breaks, just delete the file.
[04:20] <mladoux> restart X11
[04:20] <xisor> how/
[04:20] <mladoux> easiest method is a reboot
[04:20] <UltimaKR> ok now some bug is coming up saying "bug and cpu #0 stuck for 22s!"
[04:20] <xisor> ok brb
[04:20] <mladoux> it may go horribly wrong, if it does, delete your xorg.conf
[04:20] <\\Mr_C\\> what file do i need to edit to allow root in telnet in ubuntu?
[04:21] <mladoux> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-telnet-as-the-root-user/
[04:21] <mladoux> \\Mr_C\\ I can't stress how bad an idea that is, btw
[04:21] <UltimaKR> mladoux or ligeiax can either of you help me with the install?
[04:21] <mladoux> from a security standpoint.
[04:22] <\\Mr_C\\> i know
[04:22] <\\Mr_C\\> its just for my own knowledge
[04:22] <mladoux> What are you having a problem with, and maybe UltimaKR
[04:22] <xisor_> im back, well, it spat out an error message about screen resolutions, and is running at something absurdly low now, and still no desktop
[04:22] <mladoux> Alright, just so long as you know the risks \\Mr_C\\
[04:22] <UltimaKR> i have a dimension 4300 and im trying to install but when i select the "install ubuntu" option, i get a black screen with a blinking cursor
[04:22] <mladoux> xisor_ one moment.
[04:23] <xisor_> mladoux: is this a common problem?
[04:23] <UltimaKR> when i burned the disk the md5sum matched perfectly
[04:23] <mladoux> yes
[04:23] <mladoux> it's common
[04:23] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g, how many drives do you have other than the usb drive?
[04:23] <mladoux> what version of the driver are you using?
[04:23] <mladoux> you may want to try one of the other versions.
[04:23] <mladoux> there are a few other things you might want to look at
[04:23] <xisor_> 310 driver, i tried the reccomended tested one last time, and ive tried the 304
[04:23] <xisor_> all do the exact same thing
[04:24] <xisor_> of the nvidia created drivers
[04:24] <mladoux> did you try nvidia-current?
[04:24] <xisor_> yes
[04:24] <mladoux> okay
[04:24] <xisor_> and i tried the two testing ones
[04:24] <xisor_> all 3 do the same exact thing
[04:24] <n00bz> i'm using a VM for linux, so i can use my wondows internet connection. if anyone can help a tard, i'd really like to just boot linux?
[04:24] <mladoux> alright, now that I know what you've done, try opening nvidia-settings ( hit f2 to get a run dialogue ) and see if it lets you set another resolution
[04:24] <LigeiaX> ghostd0g, if you have one regular hard drive then the usb drive will be called "sdb", if you have two other drives then the usb drive will be "sdc"
[04:24] <xisor_> 3rd reinstall so far lol, im getting good at doing it in 5 minutes :P
[04:25] <mladoux> let me know how that works
[04:25] <xisor_> on
[04:25] <mladoux> I've done this a few times, I might be able to get you through it.
[04:25] <xisor_> ok*
[04:25] <Septima> n00bz: what's stopping you
[04:25] <xisor_> F2 does nothing
[04:25] <xisor_> i have no desktop at all
[04:25] <xisor_> ctrl+alt+t brings up a terminal though
[04:25] <mladoux> alt+f2 sorry
[04:25] <\\Mr_C\\> mladoux, you going to tell me?
[04:25] <xait91> anybody know flask?
[04:25] <xisor_> alt+f2 does nothing
[04:25] <n00bz> Septima, it doesn't detect my usb as a modem
[04:26] <mladoux> I did already, but here it is again http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-telnet-as-the-root-user/
[04:26] <UltimaKR> xisor how are you even getting the install to work? mine gives me a blinking cursor
[04:26] <mladoux> xisor_ just type it in terminal, that's fine
[04:26] <xisor_> ok
[04:26] <mladoux> I'm trying easiest methods first, lol
[04:26] <xait91> :) flask/ html forms anybody?
[04:26] <xisor_> UltimaKR, try hitting a key when the purple screen first shows up, then hit F6 and choose nomodeset option, hit esc and then run the live cd however you want
[04:26] <mladoux> \\Mr_C\\, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-telnet-as-the-root-user/ sorry
[04:26] <Septima> n00bz: the modem doesn't have ethernet?
[04:26] <xisor_> if that gets you further, youll be at the same point i am
[04:26] <xisor_> anyways, ok you said nvidia-settings mladoux
[04:26] <xisor_> ?
[04:26] <UltimaKR> ok be right back, I will try that
[04:27] <n00bz> no it's a usb modem Septima
[04:27] <mladoux> yeah
[04:27] <xait91> sudo nividia-settings
[04:27] <mladoux> you shouldn't have too sudo
[04:27] <Septima> n00bz: some usb modems have ethernet as well; what's the make and model?
[04:27] <xisor_> i do not appear to be using the nvidia driver
[04:27] <xisor_> is what it says
[04:27] <mladoux> well, yeah, if it works you'll want to
[04:27] <mladoux> alright
[04:27] <mladoux> then you're having another issue.
[04:27] <mladoux> open your control panel, and select software sources
[04:27] <xait91> xisor_ , whats the issue?
[04:27] <mladoux> there's a tab for 3rd party drivers, make sure nvidia is selected.
[04:28] <xisor_> there is no tab for me, i have no desktop
[04:28] <xisor_> i can bring up a terminal and run things, thats all
[04:28] <mladoux> afk, one moment
[04:28] <xisor_> ok mladoux
[04:28] <mladoux> oh... okay
[04:28] <n00bz> Septima, telstra zte 4G
[04:28] <mladoux> brb, and I'll get to fun stuff for you to try
[04:28] <xisor_> xait91: no desktop after installing nvidia driver
[04:28] <xait91> you did sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:29] <xait91> and now u just have a terminal
[04:29] <xait91> ?
[04:29] <LigeiaX> xisor_, was this the proprietary nvidia-made driver?
[04:29] <xisor_> no, i installed them using the control panel software sources alternate driver tab
[04:29] <UltimaKR> ok i tried the "nomodeset" but when i click "install ubuntu" i still get the blinking cursor
[04:29] <xisor_> yes LigeiaX
[04:29] <voldyman_> guys i want to write a simple wallpaper drawing application for Ubuntu. how can i do so??
[04:29] <xait91> try reinstalling using my command
[04:29] <LigeiaX> xisor_, that's your problem, the nvidia-made driver basically has a lot of problems
[04:29] <mladoux> okay
[04:30] <mladoux> back
[04:30] <mladoux> I think I know what's going on now
[04:30] <mladoux> I ran into this on my laptop
[04:30] <xisor_> LigeiaX: well, i need full support for all my resolutions, the default driver only lets me use 1024x768, and i assume no 3d acceleration
[04:30] <xisor_> how do i fix it mladoux ?
[04:30] <mladoux> xisor_ in the terminal, type the following --> apt-get purge nvidia-driver-experimental-310
[04:30] <UltimaKR> mladoux do you have any other suggestions? i still get the blinking cursor
[04:30] <mladoux> to uninstall the driver first
[04:31] <mladoux> we'll need to re-install
[04:31] <UltimaKR> then random bug errors appear
[04:31] <mladoux> don't worry
[04:31] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66914/how-to-change-desktop-background-from-command-line-in-unity | like this?
[04:31] <mladoux> you're driver never got built
[04:31] <mladoux> after that, do the following
[04:31] <LigeiaX> xisor_, there is also an open-source nvidia driver made by the linux community, which has a better success record
[04:31] <\\Mr_C\\> thanks
[04:31] <mladoux> sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers-generic
[04:31] <mladoux> then re-install the nvidia driver
[04:31] <voldyman_> SolarisBoy, no i meant write an application in python or vala that reads the file and then draws it on the desktop
[04:31] <xait91> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[04:32] <n00bz> Septima, pretty sure this is what i need to do, i'm just not confident to try http://tinyurl.com/cr9eoda
[04:32] <UltimaKR> mladoux, what is causing that blinking cursor? the CD is fine
[04:33] <Septima> n00bz: yes, i believe that's correct; i was just looking at the same site
[04:33] <n00bz> hmph
[04:33] <n00bz> that's not what i wanted to hear
[04:33] <n00bz> :P
[04:33] <mladoux> blinking cursor where UltimaKR
[04:33] <n00bz> why cant it be easy
[04:33] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: ok so i guess your looking for modules with binding on doing the similar thing? (although you could run system calls in most languages python included)
[04:33] <UltimaKR> when i click "install ubuntu" the screen goes black and i get a blinking underscore in the top left corner
[04:33] <Septima> n00bz: the adventure will strengthen you
[04:33] <n00bz> awwh
[04:34] <voldyman_> SolarisBoy, yeah. somewhat. like use cairo or pixbuf and draw the background surface
[04:34] <mladoux> xisor_ did you get all that?
[04:34] <n00bz> but i think i've already broken stuff, and it's only gonna get worse >.<
[04:34] <mladoux> UltimateKR, ah
[04:34] <Septima> n00bz: you could always start with a fresh install if you did.. i'd give a try and see first though
[04:34] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2051905/access-to-gnome-configuration-information-using-python
[04:35] <mladoux> UltimateKR, did you try waiting, on some computers I've seen it sit there for up to 2 minutes.
[04:35] <n00bz> hah, it's windows that's screwed now, not ubuntu Septima
[04:35] <mladoux> then the desktop loads.
[04:35] <SolarisBoy> im sure pip or easy_install have some --search or -s arg you can use to find other options as well
[04:35] <Septima> n00bz: oh.. lol
[04:35] <n00bz> :D
[04:35] <mladoux> I guess so.
[04:35] <UltimaKR> i waited about an hour, this is the first time trying to install it
[04:35] <mladoux> okay
[04:35] <mladoux> UltimateKR what graphics card do you have?
[04:35] <mladoux> sounds like you may need to do the alternative install.
[04:36] <voldyman_> SolarisBoy, you are thinking about changing the key and let gnome-settings-daemon draw it. i want an app to replace gnome-settings-daemon's background plugin
[04:36] <UltimaKR> ummm not sure I will check...should be the default for the Dimension 4300
[04:36] <n00bz> also, i had issues finding ubuntu when i added an OS to my VM, soooo  now i have several partitions and 2 installs of ubuntu on my HD Septima
[04:36] <UltimaKR> what is the alternative install?
[04:36] <mladoux> Okay, one moment.
[04:36] <mladoux> UltimaKR something you don't want to do unless you have no choice
[04:36] <mladoux> don't worry about it yet, lemme see what we're working with first
[04:36] <Septima> n00bz: gparted can clean the extra partition up and even let you easily resize the other, easily
[04:37] <n00bz> oh, thanks Septima, i will google the crap ooutta that, if i get my internet sorted
[04:38] <UltimaKR> i think the card is a 32mb geforce
[04:38] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: i see - that sounds like your going into c coding (or not)
[04:38] <Septima> 32 mb? you just gave me an ulcer
[04:38] <voldyman_> SolarisBoy, i'll prefer python or vala
[04:38] <UltimaKR> it is an 11 year-old dimension
[04:38] <mladoux> UltimaKR, does this look right? http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/SYSTEMS/dim4300/specs.htm
[04:39] <UltimaKR> that's why i want to run ubuntu, since the requirements are lower and can be more streamlined
[04:39] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: have you looked at the source for gnome (or whatever) to see how they do it?
[04:39] <UltimaKR> yes that is it
[04:39] <Septima> UltimaKR: i'd recommend xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:39] <mladoux> UltimaKR I don't think you're going to get vanilla running smoothly on that, you may want to look into one of the other flavors like lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:39] <UltimaKR> this is xubuntu
[04:39] <mladoux> okay
[04:40] <mladoux> Lubuntu is going to be lower resource
[04:40] <voldyman_> SolarisBoy, gnome-settings-daemon's code is not very documented and uses alot of gnome-desktop. i was wondering if any other application draws the background then i could check out its source code
[04:40] <n00bz> ok, wish me luck Septima, and thanks for your help! least i know i'm on the right track
[04:40] <SolarisBoy> voldyman_: not quite sure on that one
[04:40] <UltimaKR> but what is causing the blinking cursor? xubuntu is what i tried now but what seemed to fail
[04:40] <Septima> n00bz: good luc
[04:40] <mladoux> I'd go with the lowest resource version possible
[04:40] <mladoux> it's X11 not loading
[04:40] <mladoux> or trying to load, rather.
[04:41] <UltimaKR> what version do you recommend? is there any way to give me a link to the lubuntu version you think would be best?
[04:41] <xisor> i am back, and have a desktop
[04:41] <xisor> but no nvidia driver
[04:41] <mladoux> You might want to do the alternative install, and install in CLI mode.
[04:41] <xisor> how?
[04:41] <mladoux> yeah, lemme get you the lubuntu link
[04:41] <mladoux> okay
[04:41] <mladoux> did you reinstall the nvidia driver xisor
[04:42] <mladoux> sorry, on two convos
[04:42] <xisor> no
[04:42] <UltimaKR> which of us are you saying to do the alternative install?
[04:42] <LigeiaX> xisor. why not try the "nouveau" driver instead?
[04:42] <mladoux> did you remove it?
[04:42] <mladoux> UltimaKR, you
[04:42] <mladoux> http://lubuntu.net/ <-- UltimaKR try this first.
[04:42] <xisor> thats the one thats installed
[04:42] <xisor> it doesnt support my screen resolutions, and probably isnt accelerated
[04:42] <xisor> i need full hardware support
[04:43] <mladoux> LigeiaX he didn't have linux sources or headers installed, his nvidia driver didn't even build
[04:43] <mladoux> he'd lose X11 entirely
[04:43] <UltimaKR> ok and how would i go about doing that install? what makes it alternative?
[04:43] <mladoux> oh wait
[04:43] <mladoux> misread you LigeiaX
[04:43] <xisor> it already says i have the nouveau driver in use
[04:43] <xisor> i need the real one to work
[04:43] <mladoux> UltimaKR, it's alternative because it has no GUI
[04:43] <mladoux> xisor
[04:44] <mladoux> did you install the the linux-sources and linux-headers-generic?
[04:44] <xisor> no? nothing said to
[04:44] <mladoux> I know it didn't
[04:44] <UltimaKR> ok, so what do i need to do in order do the alternative? I will try this one first though in the morning (letting it download now)
[04:44] <mladoux> xisor: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-experimental-310
[04:44] <mladoux> remove the nvidia drivers first
[04:44] <xisor> already did that and rebooted
[04:44] <mladoux> let me know when that's done
[04:44] <mladoux> ok
[04:44] <mladoux> good
[04:45] <mladoux> now
[04:45] <LigeiaX> xisor, I just looked at the nouveau man page, it provides HW acceleration
[04:45] <FloodBot1> mladoux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <xisor> its using the default driver now, and my desktop works
[04:45] <mladoux> sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers-generic
[04:45] <xisor> but it doesnt support my resolutions, only 1024x768 according to the displays section
[04:45] <mladoux> we'll get there
[04:45] <mladoux> just install those files, then reboot
[04:45] <mladoux> actually
[04:45] <mladoux> you don't need to reboot
[04:45] <mladoux> once those are installed, re-install nvidia drivers
[04:45] <UltimaKR> ok i will let that install and will work on it tomorrow...thanks so much for your help
[04:46] <xisor> ok its installing
[04:46] <mladoux> UltimaKR, just a sec, getting you a link
[04:46] <mladoux> once it's installed, reboot
[04:46] <xisor> reboot before the nvidia driver or after?
[04:47] <xisor> should i update these 200 something packages it says have updates before i do the nvidia driver?
[04:48] <mladoux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[04:48] <mladoux> UltimaKR, ^^
[04:49] <mladoux> after xisor
[04:49] <mladoux> yes
[04:49] <xisor> nvidia driver is installing now
[04:49] <mladoux> xisor perfect
[04:49] <mladoux> xisor let me know if that fixes the nvidia problem.
[04:50] <mladoux> if it doesn't I have 2 more solutions for you
[04:50] <xisor> apparently it skipped module build because kernel source isnt installed
[04:50] <xisor> but i just installed that
[04:50] <mladoux> exactly
[04:50] <xisor> no i mean just now it did that
[04:50] <xisor> it still says i dont have the source that you JUST had me install
[04:50] <mladoux> xisor i knew that was the problem when it said the nvidia driver wasn't loaded
[04:51] <mladoux> really now
[04:51] <mladoux> okay
[04:51] <mladoux> in that case
[04:51] <xisor> it fetched source for 3.5.0-29 and i have 17
[04:51] <mladoux> xisor, purge the driver again
[04:51] <xisor> or something like taht
[04:51] <mladoux> I know how to fix this
[04:51] <mladoux> don't worry
[04:51] <xisor> whats the command to purge it again?
[04:51] <CatMtKing> so.. i don't understand Ubuntu's desktop notifications.  for example, dropbox creates a notification that a file was updated, and states "click to view".  but the notification fades out when the cursor approaches it, and becomes unclickable.
[04:51] <mladoux> sudo apt-get purge nvidia-experimental-310
[04:51] <mladoux> i think
[04:52] <xisor> ok
[04:52] <xisor> i installed current this time, purging now
[04:52] <mladoux> it might be sudo apt-get purge nvidia-experimental-driver-310
[04:52] <xisor> so what do i do next?
[04:52] <mladoux> whatever
[04:52] <xisor> its purged
[04:52] <mladoux> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <mladoux> then reboot
[04:52] <xisor> why would they give you a cd that breaks your OS when trying to install drivers?
[04:52] <mladoux> you may be running a older kernel than the sources.
[04:52] <xisor> i dont understand
[04:52] <xisor> lol
[04:53] <mladoux> lol xisor....
[04:53] <xisor> will i have to reinstall the source again after this finishes?
[04:53] <Septima> you mean like the cds that isps give people?
[04:53] <mladoux> no
[04:53] <yankees9920> so I got my audio working by installing the AMD Catalyst drivers, however now the display looks terrible, everything is very blurry with lots of aliasing even after turning off their underscan
[04:53] <mladoux> the dist-upgrade will do that automagically
[04:54] <xisor> is it normal for things to go this horribly wrong in linux? this is my first time having it
[04:54] <mladoux> or rather, it doesn't need too, since it's just installing the kernel that matches your sources.
[04:54] <Sazpaimon> so my live usb install is not detecting any wireless networks, but my card is being detected
[04:54] <mladoux> xisor, not usually, but nvidia has been known for issues.
[04:54] <Septima> xisor: video drivers can be a pain sometimes
[04:54] <Sazpaimon> it's an atheros chipset btw
[04:54] <mladoux> it's due to them being closed source.
[04:54] <xisor> sazpaimon, start the install process and see if it kicks in, same thing happened with mine
[04:54] <mladoux> Sazpaimon, amen to that
[04:55] <mladoux> er
[04:55] <mladoux> Septima*
[04:55] <LigeiaX> xisor, I have a second machine with some nvidia card using the nouveau driver at 1280x 1024, and it works that way for some reason
[04:55] <Sazpaimon> i don't want to install
[04:55] <mladoux> If nvidia would open up their drivers, it wouldn't be so difficult
[04:55] <xisor> but does it support your monitors native resolution LigeiaX ?
[04:55] <Sazpaimon> I just want a live usb stick
[04:55] <xisor> 1920 x1200 in my case
[04:55] <mladoux> LigeiaX not all nvidia cards are equal
[04:56] <mladoux> I can probably get you native res on novoue as well.
[04:56] <mladoux> I've done that too.
[04:56] <LigeiaX> xisor, I don't know, the monitor that second machine is on is only good for 1280x1024
[04:56] <xisor> Sazpaimon: youll have to setup whats called persistence when setting up your stick, not sure how to do that, but if you have a windows machine linux live usb creator can do that for you while converting your iso into a usb stick
[04:56] <xisor> once THATS done, they can help you get your wifi working permanently
[04:56] <Sazpaimon> I have a persistent partition already
[04:56] <xisor> plus side is your settings can be stored for your wifi network etc
[04:56] <xisor> then these guys can surely help you :D
[04:57] <mladoux> xisor we can try, lol
[04:57] <xisor> lol
[04:57] <mladoux> I know how nvidia inside and out, so you got lucky with me.
[04:57] <xisor> wow my terminal is showing a whole bunch of random looking crap
[04:57] <yankees9920> my display literally looked 1000x better before installing the ATI drivers :/
[04:57] <mladoux> any other card, you'd be sol
[04:57] <xisor> is this what an OS really does in the background?
[04:58] <mladoux> yes
[04:58] <mladoux> actually, it does more than that that you can't even see at the terminal level
[04:58] <Sazpaimon> i have tried two cardsp the internal one, and an expresscard card. both have atheros chipsets, and neither show any wireless networks
[04:58] <LigeiaX> any other kind of card, and there might never have beena problem
[04:58] <xisor> is there a program to see the 0s and 1s in realtime?
[04:59] <mladoux> Sazpaimon lspci and tell me what it says for your wireless card
[04:59] <LigeiaX> the nvidia in my second machine is just builtin to the m/b, it shares system ram of 256meg
[04:59] <mladoux> open a terminal to run lspci ( sorry )
[05:00] <mladoux> LigeiaX I've found some nvidia drivers are easier to deal with than others
[05:00] <mladoux> nvidia cards*
[05:00] <Sazpaimon> i dont have network acess at the machine, so I cannot paste it
[05:00] <xisor> mladoux: someone once told me ATI is really bad in linux, is nvidia worse or something? i know intel is supposedly the best
[05:00] <mladoux> nvidia is great once you get it working, ati doesn't perform as well, but is easier to setup
[05:01] <Sazpaimon> basically, two atheros cards. one AR5418 and another AR242x
[05:01] <mladoux> I'm trying to avoid the novoeu solution as a final resort, as it can crash sometime.s
[05:01] <mladoux> thanks, Sazpaimon that's what I needed, just a moment
[05:02] <Sazpaimon> the ath5 driver is loaded
[05:02] <mladoux> good, it's supported.
[05:02] <mladoux> that's what I needed to get out of the way first
[05:02] <Sazpaimon> the cards how up in iwcconfig and rfkill list
[05:03] <yankees9920> Hello, does anyone know why my text is really blurry after installing the ATI gfx drivers and how I can fix this?
[05:03] <xisor> yankees9920:  check your screen resolution and set it to whatever your monitor is supposed to use
[05:03] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, I thought your problem was sound?
[05:03] <mladoux> Sazpaimon, is this a laptop or a desktop with a card installed?
[05:03] <xisor> LigeiaX: i think his ATI defaulted to a lower resolution on him when he installed it
[05:04] <xisor> mladoux: rebooting, the dist-upgrade is done
[05:04] <mladoux> xisor, lemme know when your back
[05:04] <LigeiaX> xisor, what does that have to do with the sound though?
[05:04] <yankees9920> Well... I fixed the sound problem when I installed the ATI drivers, res is set to native 1920x1080@60hz and overscan turned off, which for some reason was on by default
[05:04] <Sazpaimon> laptop
[05:05] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, were the sound and the video sharing an irq?
[05:05] <mladoux> Sazpaimon - the hardware switch on your laptop to enable and disable your wireless, turn it off and then on again, that will sometimes fix the issue
[05:05] <yankees9920> IRQ?
[05:05] <LigeiaX> you know what an irq is, right?
[05:05] <mladoux> Interrupt ReQuest
[05:05] <one17> is there any way to force uninstall mysql after it failed during install?
[05:05] <TimFreeman> I see that the packages related to opie are no longer in Ubuntu as of 12.04.  Is there some other one time password packege that is present?
[05:05] <Sazpaimon> tried that, no luck. like I said, I'm using an expresscard wifi card too, so that switch shouldn't apply
[05:05] <mladoux> LigeiaX, I would assume that he doesnt.
[05:06] <yankees9920> LigeiaX, no clue
[05:06] <mladoux> Sazpaimon, oh, missed that part.
[05:06] <yankees9920> im running AMD/ATI integrated graphics which basically has a Radeon built on the mobo, that is where I am getting my HDMI out from
[05:06] <mladoux> Sazpaimon open a terminal and run: sudo iwlist
[05:06] <mladoux> tell me if you get output
[05:07] <mladoux> if it lists networks, we're good
[05:07] <mladoux> and I can fix this.
[05:08] <Sazpaimon> mladoux, strangely, I did a hard reboot and it started working ahain
[05:08] <mladoux> lol
[05:09] <mladoux> Sazpaimon I love it when bugs fix themselves.
[05:09] <Sazpaimon> apparently ubuntu doesnt like soft reboots with wireless on this computer
[05:09] <LigeiaX> yankees9920, if your video was blocking the sound before, maybe the sound is now causing bad video?
[05:09] <one17> using sudo apt-get remove mysql-server or mysql-client, or even trying to run autoremove, simply results in an error that mysql-server couldn't be started...
[05:10] <ramon> my system cratched and i got the default desktop and my files are not longer in my folders...is there a way to get them back?
[05:10] <Abhijit> hi. what is the default xubuntu theme name and icon set name in latest xubuntu?
[05:10] <xisor> im gonna assume it worked, 1920x1200 and nvidia logo for a brief instant before the desktop loaded :D
[05:10] <Abhijit> help please
[05:10] <mladoux> Sazpaimon, lol
[05:10] <one17> if I had a USB drive I'd just wipe & reload this machine... :(
[05:10] <Sazpaimon> ok, the network shows up, I try to connect and it doesn't seem to work
[05:10] <xisor> now, a few other minor things to fix/setup and ill be all set to explore linux for the first time
[05:10] <mladoux> xisor, that's what I like to hear
[05:10] <irc4> anyone try steam for linux yet
[05:10] <irc4> err ubuntu
[05:10] <mladoux> Told you I could get you working, and I still had 2 backup plans in reserve
[05:10] <xisor> lol
[05:11] <xisor> how much more complicated were those?
[05:11] <Sazpaimon> well it'd help if I gave the right password lol
[05:11] <one17> is there a way to do a system restore or in-place reinstall?
[05:11] <mladoux> well, the backup plans are a lot less fun
[05:11] <Sazpaimon> its working now, user error
[05:11] <mladoux> I'd rather not think about them
[05:11] <xisor> lol
[05:11] <mladoux> Sazpaimon, yeah, typo's are a bitch
[05:11] <yankees9920> LigeiaX, idk that seems weird because its over HDMI and i've had it working on XBMCBuntu which runs 12.04
[05:11] <xisor> ok, now, i need my sound to come from my built in speakers, and switch on its own if i plug in headphones
[05:11] <xisor> how do i do this?
[05:12] <mladoux> xisor, this is where I'm no longer of use to you, sorry
[05:12] <xisor> lol
[05:12] <xisor> ok then
[05:12] <xisor> how about, how do i install programs and where do i begin with exploring linux?
[05:13] <snufft> hey guys
[05:13] <LigeiaX> xisor, where is the sound coming from now?
[05:13] <xisor> built in apparently, maybe it works on its own
[05:13] <snufft> stupid, small question that i can't seem to find the google answer for: How do i find out what groups have permission on a folder, through the shell?
[05:14] <LigeiaX> xisor, and what happens if you plug in the headphones?
[05:14] <yankees9920> thanks guys, I think im going to try Lubuntu, thats what was working for XBMCBuntu
[05:14] <xisor> dont know, type my name again so it beeps
[05:15] <mladoux> yankees9920, good luck
[05:15] <tomreyn> snufft: ls -l /path/to/directory showns the owning user and group and their permissions, as well as those of everyone else.
[05:15] <tomreyn> snufft: -l as in loooong
[05:15] <snufft> tomreyn: i'm after the specific groups who have access though
[05:16] <xisor> oh hey it works properly LigeiaX , it didnt on the livecd thats why i was asking
[05:16] <snufft> tomreyn: eg, i need to add myself to a group that owns this dir, but don't know what the grou[s called :)
[05:16] <tomreyn> snufft: there can be just one group assigned per file system object. ls -l shows you which group that is.
[05:16] <LigeiaX> problem solved, xisor, a lot of the required software needs to be installed to run right
[05:16] <MasterBob> So, I'm having issues with my crontab. my full cron script> http://pastebin.com/aCXKDk09 | and this is the mail I get > http://pastebin.com/Z2mxLW5v
[05:16] <mladoux> xisor, a lot of times things are detected during the install but won't work without a reboot, hence doesn't work on livecd but does once you're running.
[05:17] <MasterBob> Running which dtach via crontab outputs the correct location for dtach
[05:17] <snufft> tomreyn: aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, i'm with you
[05:17] <snufft> tomreyn: thank you very much :)
[05:17] <xisor> so, whats next for me? what do i need to do to begin to learn ubuntu?
[05:17] <xisor> now that my hardware is apparently all functioning as far as i can tell
[05:17] <tomreyn> snufft: you're welcome
[05:17] <mladoux> um, what do you want to do with it xisor?
[05:17] <LigeiaX> xisor, patience
[05:17] <xisor> even my bluetooth works and i didnt even have to do anything
[05:17] <LigeiaX> you're doing well
[05:17] <mladoux> xisor that's how it is with most things, your gfx card was the only pesky bit
[05:17] <kion> d
[05:18] <xisor> alot more pesky than download nvidia driver, run it and hit next a bunch of times thats for sure
[05:18] <mladoux> xisor i'd just click around and get a feel for it, try random stuff, you might break it, but more importantly, you'll learn.
[05:18] <mladoux> xisor, it's only pesky in your case because it doesn't automatically require the source and header dependencies.
[05:19] <ramon> i have the system drop down and restarting the computer my desktop when back to default and all my file dissapear so how that can happened?...is there a way to get them back?
[05:19] <mladoux> there's a reason for that of course, I just don't remember what it was.
[05:19] <xisor> shouldnt ubuntu hard code its alternate driver page to fetch sources for your INSTALLED kernel? or ship them with the iso to begin with?
[05:19] <xisor> wouldnt that solve 99% of these issues?
[05:20] <mladoux> lol,I don't think it works that way, but they could make it refuse to install them without upgrading
[05:20] <mladoux> and you can manually request the correct outdated sources, if you really need too.
[05:20] <xisor> they can very well ship the headers and sources for the kernel on the cd that you install, or if you have a net connection, force a dist-upgrade during install, or allow the option for it
[05:20] <tomreyn> ramon: are you saying you rebooted and when the system was back some files were gone?
[05:20] <mladoux> and even ignore upgrades if you want too
[05:21] <ramon> tomreyn, yes
[05:21] <mladoux> xisor, that's a holdback from the days when they used to have to fit it all on a cd, now everything is on a dvd.
[05:21] <LigeiaX> xisor, you might want to save the sources you fetched to make it easier next time
[05:21] <mladoux> This is the first release without a cd install.
[05:21] <xisor> well, ubuntu is still cd sized from what i can see
[05:21] <xisor> they should do away with that nobody has a system that can run this OS properly that DOESNT have a dvd drive
[05:21] <mladoux> LigeiaX won't do him any good, if there are any updates, those sources won't match the kernel.
[05:21] <L3top> xisor: It would require a matrix by pciid which require what across which kernels... the headers package is not always desired in all cases either.
[05:21] <ramon> tomreyn, everything ...pictures, downloads, documents
[05:22] <mladoux> they are larger than cd sized in 12.10 at least
[05:22] <mladoux> cd is less than 700 MB
[05:22] <LigeiaX> mladoux, he has fetched the correct sources now. perhaps he should save those?
[05:22] <tomreyn> ramon: this shouldn't normally happen. it could happen that some files no longer show if your file system is corrupt. also if you stored files on a RAM disk / temporary partition all of them would be gone. yet another possible explanation is that a partition (probably /home) was not mounted on boot for some reason.
[05:23] <mladoux> LigeiaX no, when he upgrades, those sources won't be good for him anymore.
[05:23] <tomreyn> ramon: how did you install?
[05:23] <xisor> mladoux: i fetched sources for a newer kernel than what came with the cd
[05:23] <mladoux> LigeiaX and they don't match the kernel on the cd, so it won't do him any good anyhow.
[05:23] <xisor> so i had to dist-upgrade to fix the problem before nvidia driver would function
[05:23] <xisor> it seems a bit convoluted to me :P
[05:23] <ramon> tomreyn, i have not partition my system...is only ubuntu
[05:23] <tomreyn> ramon: did you make any changes to file systems / partitions / mounts lately?
[05:23] <ramon> tomreyn,  no
[05:23] <mladoux> xisor, no worries, the issue is fixed, the dist-upgrade was because of updates since the cd was released.
[05:24] <tomreyn> ramon: do you basically know how to work on the terminal?
[05:24] <xisor> thank you mladoux
[05:24] <mladoux> xisor, thankfully, now that you have it set up, it will update itself whenever you do an upgrade.
[05:24] <L3top> xisor: this would only be necessary, I am guessing, on a GT series nvidia card... probably a 4xx-6xx series I would guess. What is the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[05:24] <xisor> and i know how to fix it if i reinstall
[05:24] <xisor> its fixed alread l3top
[05:24] <xisor> its a 8700M GT actually :P
[05:24] <mladoux> l3top we fixed it
[05:24] <xisor> quite older than that
[05:25] <xisor> 2007
[05:25] <L3top> I am not trying to fix it
[05:25] <L3top> now THAT I find odd.
[05:25] <ramon> tomaw, it went to several system failure and now i just find out there is not files and my desktop when back to the default...even the back ground ...although when i put my password to open my session i can see the background i had
[05:25] <mladoux> L3top it was because he didn't have the correct linux source and header files installed, so the kernel module wasn't built
[05:25] <ramon> tomreyn, i know the terminal a bit
[05:26] <xisor> and the driver section didnt say a word about any of it
[05:26] <xisor> youd think theyd at least say hey! upgrade your distro or fetch THIS kernel source and header first!!!!
[05:26] <tomreyn> ramon: okay, do you also know the pastebinit command ?
[05:26] <xisor> you know?
[05:26] <ramon> yeah
[05:26] <L3top> I understand. I would question what an "incorrect" source and header file would be? You mean mismatched? as in headers was not updated but source was?
[05:26] <mladoux> xisor they have a wiki page that tells you just that.
[05:27] <xisor> but the OS should tell you that, people install and use an OS, they dont automagically think they need a wiki
[05:27] <mladoux> no, the headers and source were updated, but the kernel wasn't
[05:27] <ramon> tomreyn, yes...i will paste it and give you the link
[05:27] <xisor> its frustrating from a beginners point of view
[05:27] <mladoux> xisor, that's why we're here.
[05:27] <XRS1> uh... theres too much hardware to be able to document everything, and we dont have companies throwing hardware at us to make sure its compatable
[05:27] <tomreyn> ramon: great, please paste the output of: cat /proc/partitions && echo [05:27] <mladoux> XRS1 amen to that
[05:28] <xisor> XRS1, but ubuntu devs have probably known for years that the nvidia driver requires sources and headers to function
[05:28] <mladoux> xisor, unless you reinstall, you won't have to deal with it again.
[05:28] <xisor> allowing you to install it without that, and break your OS temporarily, is a bit odd
[05:28] <xisor> yup mladoux  i know :)
[05:28] <mladoux> xisor, but at least know you know what you're in for with your next nvidia
[05:28] <LigeiaX> so newbies need to reinstall often
[05:28] <mladoux> xisor, in the end, nvidia is worth the hassle imho
[05:28] <xisor> nothing at all since id dist-upgrad eand grab sources and headers before bothering
[05:28] <XRS1> Linus Torvalds to nVidia: "Fuck You!"
[05:29] <L3top> XRS1: Language is an issue in here, and that is off topic.
[05:29] <mladoux> XRS1, lol, because their poor interactions with the linux community, I agree with him, they could make their end of it much simpler.
[05:29] <xisor> matter of fact, my friend who told me about ubuntu and said i should try it, his 12.04 alternate driver button installed sources and headers for him before proceeding
[05:29] <xisor> he didnt have to do it manually it just worked with 1 click and a password + reboot
[05:30] <xisor> or maybe that was 11.04
[05:30] <mladoux> yeah, xisor that changed in 12.10, i'm not sure why, but I believe there was a good reason for it.
[05:31] <mladoux> i think it's alternative headers that is the main reason.
[05:31] <xisor> i see
[05:31] <lickalott> All:   my server has been randomly going "offline".  3x in the last two days.  I've checked the syslog but didn't see anything that jumped out at me.   I rebooted it this morning and it was fine, at about 4:00 i was unable to reach it (across the network).  When I hit a button on the keyboard nothing happens (the monitor shows an empty black screen.  I hit the reset button on the case and it
[05:31] <lickalott> acts like it's going to reboot but nothing happens.  The only way it comes back is if I cold boot it.
[05:31] <LigeiaX> I thought xisor had backtracked to 12.04?
[05:31] <lickalott> Where else would I look to find out whats happening?
[05:32] <ramon> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/H0859yBN
[05:32] <XRS1> add the -debug options?
[05:32] <mladoux> LigeiaX, I don't know, I never ran 12.04. I updated from an older version.
[05:32] <lickalott> XRS1 who was that for?
[05:32] <poz> hello all, I am wondering if anyone has experence getting vlc to play mp4
[05:33] <mladoux> vlc should just play mp4... I think the codecs are hard-coded in that one.
[05:33] <mladoux> try sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs
[05:34] <poz> E: Unable to locate package non-free-codecs
[05:34] <poz> i get that error
[05:34] <mladoux> oh
[05:34] <mladoux> mebbe it's nonfree-codecs
[05:34] <mladoux> lemme check
[05:35] <poz> i get the same error with sudo apt-get install w64codecs
[05:35] <mladoux> ah, this is what I forgot -- http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[05:35] <mladoux> follow the instructions on that page
[05:35] <poz> k
[05:35] <mladoux> your issue will be solved
[05:35] <xisor> poz did you ever fix your issue you were having with nvidia?
[05:35] <mladoux> np poz
[05:36] <mladoux> well, on that note, I have to work in the morning, see you folks later.
[05:36]  * mladoux goes to bed
[05:36] <poz> xisor, which one? the ubuntu 12.10 or the dual monitor one? the dual monitor one I did. the ubuntu 12.10 I did not, I gave up and went to 12.04 lts
[05:36] <tomreyn> ramon: so you have two partitions, sda1 and sda5, but apparently only use sda1 (this one is the largest, too). you also seem to have an ecryptfs encrypted home directory. i don't know the details of how this works (I don't use it myself). chances are the decryption failed and so you aren't seeing your files.
[05:36] <mladoux> I'll be back tomorrow, no worries.
[05:37] <xisor> just so happens i can fix your 12.10 issue
[05:37] <xisor> i had it and it got fixed
[05:37] <poz> thanks mladoux
[05:37] <xisor> :D
[05:37] <mladoux> lol, xisor, good job, pass it on.
[05:37] <poz> what did you do?
[05:37] <xisor> install 12.10, before you do anything else (other than getting your network up and running)
[05:37] <xisor> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:38] <poz> thats it?
[05:38] <mladoux> don't forget
[05:38] <xisor> reboot, then sudo apt-get install linux-headers and linux-kernel-source? i think?
[05:38] <xisor> mladoux: ?
[05:38] <mladoux> yeah
[05:38] <mladoux> that was it
[05:38] <xisor> then you can sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:38] <mladoux> then install the nvidia drivers
[05:38] <mladoux> not before
[05:38] <xisor> and all will be well
[05:38] <xisor> after a reboot
[05:38] <xisor> again
[05:38] <poz> interesting
[05:38] <FloodBot1> xisor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:38] <mladoux> xisor that doesn't always work btw
[05:38] <poz> lol
[05:38] <xisor> well, its worth a shot :P
[05:38] <poz> what does
[05:38] <xisor> it worked for me :D
[05:38] <mladoux> it works about 90% of the time
[05:39] <mladoux> poz nothing works ALL the time.
[05:39] <poz> I think I will stick to 12.04 lts, after reinstalling 3 times I just cant stand to have to do it again
[05:39] <mladoux> poz that one is just the one that fixes it MOST of the time.
[05:39] <ramon> tomreyn, this was an option to scrypt the personal file for the local network but never worked and always had the possibility to manage my files..anyway....what you suggest me to do?
[05:39] <poz> now I am trying to get ubuntu 12.04 just the way I like it
[05:39] <poz> Thanks though. I will keep it in mind
[05:40] <mladoux> poz if it works out of the box for you on 12.04, it's most likely that will be your fix on 12.10.
[05:40] <mladoux> I'd try it on a second partition first.
[05:40] <mladoux> if it works, then go for it.
[05:40] <mladoux> dang, I'm supposed to be sleeping.
[05:40] <poz> I am guessing that it will work. so what happends if you dont do that. how would you describe the problem xisor?
[05:41] <poz> lol well i guess i could. I left 65 gb free
[05:41] <mladoux> heh
[05:41] <ramon> tomreyn, do you think ubuntu partitioned the file is corrupted? and is on my personal desktop?...really dont know what i even saying myself
[05:41] <tomreyn> ramon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory explains how ecryptfs can be used manually
[05:41] <mladoux> if it doesn't happen, we'll get into cvt and xrandr, but you have dual monitor, I'm not sure if that will work for you.
[05:42] <mladoux> I'll be in tomorrow.
[05:42] <ObsidianBlade_> Hi everyone
[05:42] <BrainPaid> hello
[05:43] <ObsidianBlade_> I'm hoping someone here can help me as I've been struggling to resolve this issue: I recently purchased this awesome gaming laptop that comes with two SSDs in RAID 0. I want to install Linux onto the RAID, but it seems to be an impossible task. Can anyone help me out here?
[05:44] <Guest44859> ObsidianBlade_ buy me two ssd and i will demostrate and teach u how live
[05:44] <poz> mladoux, medibuntu did not work
[05:44] <ObsidianBlade_> lol Guest44859 good luck with that endeavor :P
[05:44] <tomreyn> ramon: since you are saying you didn't make any changes, it might be possible that your encrypted filesystem or the physical hard disk is corrupt. you can use the "testdisk" command to check the disk surface, and the fsck command on the encrypted block device.
[05:44] <Guest44859> come on.. for christmas
[05:45] <tomreyn> ramon: i'm afraid i am too tired to guide you through this right now, hopefully someone else will take it from here.
[05:45] <Phixxy> is there any way to upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 to ubuntu 12.10 without installing 12.10 from scratch?
[05:45] <ObsidianBlade_> I'll tell ya what. You hook me up with a car and I'll get you a couple of SSDs. Sound good Guest44859? :P
[05:45] <poz> ooooh
[05:45] <poz> i see
[05:45] <poz> never mind
[05:46] <ramon> tomreyn, i appreciate it though...thanks...no hurry...i may do it tomorrow anyway...thanks en good night
[05:46] <tomreyn> thanks :)
[05:46] <ObsidianBlade_> Guest44859: I mean I do have a car already, but it's a gas guzzler. I need something like a 4 cylinder lol
[05:47] <poz> nope, still can not play mp4
[05:47] <poz> vlc can not play it
[05:47] <poz> but 'movie player' does
[05:47] <tomreyn> Phixxy: upgrade to 12.04, then to 12.10
[05:48] <ObsidianBlade_> So anyway, can anyone help me out with this?
[05:49] <SolarisBoy> poz: try running vlc from the command line and seeing what errors if any are reported
[05:49] <tomreyn> ObsidianBlade_: it may help people help you if you would be more specific in how the raid setup doesn't work.
[05:50] <poz> VLC is unable to open the MRL
[05:50] <RajeevK> I have downloaded public and private key from hosting server & when I am trying to execute "puttygen /path/to/puttykey.ppk -L > ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub" it says "puttygen: unable to load file `puttykey.ppk': not a private key"
[05:50] <ObsidianBlade_> True. Well I haven't tried to do it for some time but if I remember correctly, it would go through the majority of the installation and then fail while installing GRUB.
[05:50] <poz> i cant not find the log for details
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> poz: so it's a network link?
[05:51] <poz> no def not
[05:51] <gimmickless> 12.04 LTS here.  Having trouble with adding libraries for video card drivers.
[05:52] <gimmickless> Since Synaptic went away, I don't recall the command to whitelist a repository.
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> poz: you may be able to turn up the logs in vlc and redirect the log to a file or should be able to - you can check the man page or --help output
[05:54] <milamber> gimmickless: sudo add-apt-repository ?
[05:55] <RajeevK> anybody can help me with putty here ?
[05:59] <milamber> RajeevK: what are you trying to do?
[06:00] <gimmickless> milamber: After further searching, it turns out my driver isn't the problem. "On all operating systems, WebGL is disabled on the Intel Mobile 945 Express family of chipsets."  :-(
[06:00] <poz> the log says nothing
[06:03] <poz> vlc mp4 problem solved
[06:03] <RajeevK> milamber:  I am trying to execute "puttygen /path/to/puttykey.ppk -L > ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub" it says "puttygen: unable to load file `puttykey.ppk': not a private key"
[06:03] <poz> it was in a location that apparently vlc could not access (the trash)
[06:04] <poz> when I move it to the desktop, it plays fine
[06:05] <RajeevK> milamber: when I tried "sudo puttygen puttykey.ppk -O private-openssh -o ~/.ssh/id_rsa", it said "puttygen: this command would perform no useful action"
[06:09] <rushboy> hello can anyone please help me out with this : I already have libjpeg8 installed on my pc but a when running autogen.sh for a certain program gives the following error :
[06:09] <rushboy> checking which jpeg to use... external
[06:09] <rushboy> checking jpeglib.h usability... no
[06:09] <rushboy> checking jpeglib.h presence... no
[06:09] <rushboy> checking for jpeglib.h... no
[06:09] <FloodBot1> rushboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:09] <rushboy> configure: error: jpeg.h not found. install libjpeg
[06:10] <milamber> RajeevK: shouldn't it be id_rsa.pub?
[06:11] <rushboy> hello can anyone please help me out with this : I already have libjpeg8 installed on my pc but a when running autogen.sh for a certain program it says it can't locate jpeg.h
[06:11] <milamber> rushboy: install apt-file (sudo apt-get install apt-file) and then search: apt-file search jpeglib.h
[06:12] <milamber> rushboy: and for the sake of saying it, you usually just need the -dev version (i.e. libjpeg8-dev)
[06:13] <milamber> !pastebin | rushboy
[06:15] <RajeevK> milamber: I copied it from cPanel and saved with this name...should I download it directly and then do the same ?
[06:16] <zhouyuan_> hello
[06:16] <zhouyuan_> everyone
[06:17] <milamber> RajeevK: http://forums.cpanel.net/f5/ppk-putty-key-conversion-75458.html   looks like that might be a puttygen bug, depending on the build
[06:17] <malkauns> how do i get mp4 thumbnails to be generated?
[06:17] <zhouyuan_> master
[06:17] <zhouyuan_> quick
[06:18] <milamber> bug 833507 | malkauns
[06:19] <malkauns> already tried that solution but it doesnt work for me :(
[06:22] <malkauns> hmm i see, works in nautilus but not marlin :(
[06:23] <rushboy> milamber: yes it worked but now I get this error : Unable to locate package gnome-vfs-2.0 . Please could you help me out with this too ?
[06:24] <malkauns> anyone know if the compiz memory leak bug is fixed?
[06:24] <milamber> rushboy: apt-cache search gnome-vfs    (again, you probably want the -dev version)
[06:24] <milamber> rushboy: what are you trying to compile?
[06:24] <black_angel> where I can find python manual files on my ubuntu 10.10 system.
[06:25] <milamber> black_angel: man python
[06:25] <black_angel> does it on /usr/share/doc/python*
[06:26] <rushboy> milamber: I am trying to build my own libreoffice :-)
[06:26] <black_angel> milamber: I means that i can read it on firefox, something like that.
[06:28] <black_angel> Cause I wanna read some info about python's string methods.
[06:28] <Septima> rushboy: sudo apt-get install libgnomevfs2-0
[06:28] <milamber> black_angel: file:///usr/share/doc/python<WHATEVER_VERSION_YOU_HAVE>/html/index.html
[06:29] <rushboy> Septima: Thanks . But if I want to install the -dev version >
[06:30] <Septima> rushboy: libgnomevfs2-dev
[06:30] <milamber> !info libgnomevfs2-dev
[06:31] <RajeevK> milamber: So what should i do now ?
[06:32] <RajeevK> milamber: As I am working on local, so is there way to do it manually ?
[06:32] <rushboy> Septima: Thanks a ton :-)
[06:32] <blackshirt> !find ureadahead
[06:32] <Patero-ng> I'm afraid to install the new ubuntu 12 I hear bad things about unity is it really that bad?
[06:33] <blackshirt> !info ureadahead
[06:33] <Patero-ng> like you can't find the advanced settings anywhere
[06:33] <milamber> RajeevK: you should be able to use the openssh tools
[06:33] <RajeevK> milamber: Should I copy paste these files in ~/.ssh/id_rsa ?
[06:34] <milamber> Patero-ng: everything is still available from the command line, so it depends on how advanced of a user you are and what you think you will need to modify as far as "advanced" settings go
[06:34] <black_angel> yep, I can find /usr/share/doc/python2.6-dev/python-policy.html/index.html on my system, but...that's not my answer.
[06:35] <milamber> RajeevK: i'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish
[06:35] <black_angel> that's about policy, I don't care about policy.
[06:35] <milamber> black_angel: that is the dev documentation, if you installed the correct documentation and put the file link that i provided into your web browser, i believe that is what you are looking for?
[06:36] <rushboy> milamber: please guide me on this : configure: error: Ant not found - Make sure it's in the path or use --with-ant-home
[06:37] <RajeevK> milamber: I have to connect to my shared hosting account. I have created public & private key from there
[06:37] <black_angel> milamber: ah, may be i need to try: sudo apt-get install python-doc
[06:37] <keanne1021> hello channel. anyone running 389-ds installed using apt-get?
[06:37] <milamber> rushboy: sudo apt-get install ant
[06:37] <Patero-ng> milamber I don't like it then I like it the way 10.04 was
[06:37] <RajeevK> milamber: Then I am trying to execute these to set them to my SSH at my local system so that I can access them from here
[06:38] <milamber> RajeevK: have you tried just ssh'ng into the boxes?
[06:39] <milamber> rushboy: any particular reason you are compiling your own libreoffice?
[06:39] <black_angel> milamber: oh, yeah, you're right. Actually I didn't install python-doc package. lol
[06:40] <black_angel> milamber: Thanks, man.
[06:40] <RajeevK> milamber: I am newbie to linux..I don't know how to do that. I just followed a tutorial, where these steps were written to get connected with my shared hosting by putty
[06:40] <milamber> black_angel: no worries, glad you were able to straighten it out
[06:41] <milamber> RajeevK: ok, do you have an ip (or web address) to log in to from the hosting provider?
[06:42] <rushboy> milamber: yes , I want to solve some bugs present in it :-)
[06:42] <RajeevK> milamber: Yes I have IP address
[06:44] <milamber> RajeevK: do you know what your login name is?
[06:44] <cute_bettong> can someone help me with this network error http://pastebin.com/VRiGPeXX
[06:45] <milamber> RajeevK: if so from the command line: ssh -l <your name> <the ip address>
[06:45] <xisor> is it possible to install ubuntu onto a usb stick (not liveusb) from within a booted ubuntu installation?
[06:45] <Snurre86> hello guys  i connected my desktop keyboard t omy laptop and now i cant get my laptop lay ou to work
[06:46] <milamber> xisor: can you be more specific? what do you mean by not liveusb?
[06:46] <Snurre86> as u is 4 and i is 6 etc
[06:46] <xisor> i want to install it to the usb stick as if it were a fully installed OS, not a live cd environment
[06:47] <cute_bettong> so can anyone help me to fix this network error on my lappy http://pastebin.com/VRiGPeXX
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> !persistent | xisor
[06:47] <xisor> no, not either of those
[06:48] <xisor> i want the usb stick to contain a fully installed linux, able to be fully updated including the kernel
[06:48] <Snurre86> is there a way of changing between desktop and laptop layout ?
[06:49] <Snurre86> as letters give me numbers on my laptop keyboard
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> Snurre86: i think you'll have a special numlock for that
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> Snurre86: look up the name of your laptop then google how to disable that feature
[06:50] <nicholas> can i get source code for the system settings somewhere ??
[06:50] <cute_bettong> hello?
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> nicholas: find the name of the package first
[06:50] <aeon-ltd> cute_bettong: hi
[06:50] <nicholas> how?
[06:50] <nicholas> :D
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> nicholas: what is the application called?
[06:51] <cute_bettong> aeon-ltd, can you or anyone be kind enough to help me with this issue? http://pastebin.com/VRiGPeXX i know your all busy and stuffs
[06:51] <milamber> nicholas: what do you mean by "source code for system settings"?
[06:51] <Snurre86> aeon it hapened after connecting the desktop keyboad to the laptop
[06:51] <aeon-ltd> Snurre86: rebooting didn't help?
[06:51] <Snurre86> nope
[06:52] <cute_bettong> Snurre86, i would reccomend plugging the keyboard back in, then turning num lock off, then unplug the keyboard and see what happens
[06:52] <nicholas> i want to change the distro name under the information tab. I could maybe do it by getting the code of system settings
[06:52] <RiXtEr> Snurre86, or the is likely a num lk function key on your laptop.
[06:53] <Snurre86> yes it worked
[06:53] <mar> hi I have a problem in my laptop hp ProBook when I insert the headphone the sound come out from both headphones and speaker I made many seach in google but there is no solution any help please
[06:53] <cute_bettong> Snurre86, your welcome! ^_^
[06:53] <Snurre86> plugging the keyboard back in, then turning num lock off, then unplug the keyboard
[06:53] <milamber> nicholas: gksu gedit /etc/*release
[06:54] <cute_bettong> so no one can help me fix this http://pastebin.com/VRiGPeXX
[06:55] <Snurre86> yes thx cute
[06:58] <K4rn4K> Hi all I have a strange question about the command shred and the ubuntu in live mode
[06:58] <milamber> !details | cute_bettong
[06:58] <LuvLinuxOS> join #lubuntu
[06:58] <K4rn4K> can someone hep me ?
[06:58] <milamber> !ask | K4rn4K
[07:01] <cute_bettong> alright this issue happens randomly, im using ubuntu 12.04 32 bit pae compltely updated the wifi card is a 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6230 (rev 34) running the iwlwifi driver, this issue happens at random times, the card does not seem to loose connection to the router, but all data seems to stop, sometimes it corrects it's self and sometimes it does not, using dmesg i managed to isolate what i think the e
[07:01] <cute_bettong> rror is here is that output http://pastebin.com/VRiGPeXX
[07:02] <nicholas> change the name of os-release in /etc but nothing happens?
[07:03] <milamber> nicholas: did you restart?
[07:04] <cute_bettong> >.<
[07:04] <milamber> cute_bettong: sorry, that's closer to network stuff than i am familiar with
[07:04] <K4rn4K> Ok, I have launched the command shred -n 15 -vfz /dev/sda when sad is the primary disk where there is the O.S. I launched it while the O.S. still running. So, I did it because I want to do it, but I don't know how it is possible that shred command overwrite 15 times the HD where there is the O.S. installed when it is running. When I launche the shred command I thunked that the O.S. will be restart like chkdsk on windows
[07:04] <RajeevK> milamber: ssh: Could not resolve hostname quiveote: Name or service not known (This is the login username which i used)
[07:05] <nicholas> noo.....maybe have to do that. coming back in a minut
[07:06] <milamber> K4rn4K: what is the file system?
[07:06] <K4rn4K> ext3
[07:06] <RajeevK> milamber: If I am using my own name..it's asking password, so which password I am suppose to give ?
[07:07] <milamber> K4rn4K: if i remember correctly, shred won't work on ext3, you can check the documentation by: man shred
[07:07] <milamber> RajeevK: whatever password you use to login to your hosting
[07:08] <CloudxRae> hello
[07:09] <Snurre86> the answer to what is my password question is always "iam a virus", yes i do get that question some times ....
[07:09] <CloudxRae> zz
[07:09] <RajeevK> milamber: I login with username - quiveote, but it says name or service not known
[07:10] <K4rn4K> I'm  honest, it can be the ext2 or ext4, I not remember it and Gparted show me, now, that the file system where there is the O.S. don't have a file system. But the shred command still overwrite the HD. I launched it yesterday evening, and now it is at the pass 11/16
[07:10] <nicholas> okay it didn't work...still ubuntu 12.10
[07:10] <nicholas> ?
[07:11] <milamber> RajeevK: can you pastebin the command and the response? you are using the format: ssh -l quiveote <ip_address>   ?
[07:11] <tewe__> iam using  ubuntu 8.04 ubuntu serever and iam trying to take backup the whole system  using Remastersys in order to change by other server but i coudn't install any package even upgrade is there any help?
[07:11] <RajeevK> milamber: ssh -l 174.121.47.160 quiveote
[07:12] <LearningNoob> hello
[07:12] <RajeevK> milamber: ssh: Could not resolve hostname quiveote: Name or service not known
[07:12] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: -l specifies username
[07:12] <LearningNoob> can i just put the file i downloaded from ubuntu.com on  a flash drive and plug it in and install? :
[07:12] <milamber> RajeevK: you have to put the username after the -l and then the ip address
[07:13] <RajeevK> milamber: Ok
[07:13] <milamber> LearningNoob: with dd, yes
[07:13] <roodkapje112> good morning
[07:13] <RajeevK> milamber: Now it says - ssh: connect to host 174.121.47.160 port 22: Connection refused
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> ssh is not running or blocked RajeevK
[07:14] <LearningNoob> morning  its 1am
[07:14] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: So what to do ?
[07:14] <roodkapje112> here its 0800 in the morning
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> nothing from remote really - if you have capability to get hands on the box have someone walk to terminal and check if the daemon is installed/running and such
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: ^
[07:15] <tasos> hello
[07:15] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: you can make sure you are using the proper user and all as it's possible to get that message from using the wrong user in some configurations but thats just assuming - i'd have someone check the host
[07:16] <roodkapje112> i have put a sec hd in mijn pc but ubuntu do noy mount it, i have download orios , and instal , but  i reboot and my hd do not mount can somebody help me ?
[07:16] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: I have cPanel access where SSH/Shell access option has given though
[07:16] <SolarisBoy> its not uncommon for the hosting provider services to go down or even go misconfigured
[07:16] <K4rn4K> milamber: how is it possible to erase the same HD where there is the O.S. installed while it run ?
[07:16] <tewe__> iam using  ubuntu 8.04 ubuntu serever and iam trying to take backup the whole system  using Remastersys in order to change by other server but i coudn't install any package even upgrade  some body help me
[07:17] <SolarisBoy> or again - it may be a user error - so ensure you are using all the right settings for ssh into the system
[07:17] <milamber> !8.04 | tewe__
[07:17] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Thats what I was trying before I think...
[07:17] <SolarisBoy> but it just seems the ip your connecting to is not running ssh or something is blocking it - so again - get remote hands on it
[07:17] <SolarisBoy> there is no other solution unless you have another remote access setup
[07:17] <tasos> i want to ask about ubuntu,i istalled it yesterday on my netbook but i cannot use it because it asks for super user password and when i type my user password it says authentication unsuccesfull..what is happening?
[07:18] <milamber> tewe__: can you pastebin: lsb-release -a please
[07:18] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: I have downloaded private & public key from there...but the question is how to use them at my local so that I get to connect
[07:18] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: if thats the problem thats different
[07:18] <SolarisBoy> afaik ssh wont tell you connection refused if your using the wrong auth method - it will tell you your using the wrong auth method
[07:18] <SolarisBoy> however you use -i on the command line and point to the key file
[07:19] <rd4> when clipboard has new cotent ,I want to get it  .How can I do it ?   I  have used pygtk get the clipboard object
[07:19] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: How to do that ? I am totally new to linux...just trying to learn
[07:19] <SolarisBoy> ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub localhost || for instance goes to my localhost using my current user and that key file in my home directory
[07:19] <tasos> can anyone help?
[07:20] <SolarisBoy> so you want to use the proper user and point to the key file which should be permissioned as 0600 and preferably under you ~/.ssh/ directory (which should be 0700)
[07:20] <blackshirt> tasos, whats the problem ?
[07:20] <tasos>  i want to ask about ubuntu,i istalled it yesterday on my netbook but i cannot use it because it asks for super user password and when i type my user password it says authentication unsuccesfull..what is happening?
[07:20] <nicholas> milamber: changing the name of ubuntu 12.10 didn't work. changed some names in /etc/os-release + restart but didn't work what did i do wrong
[07:20] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: tell me the user and ip of the host you need to access - and also confirm that you received 2 keys from the hosting provider and you have them on your disk somewhere
[07:20] <milamber> nicholas: lsb-release?
[07:20] <nicholas> lsb?
[07:21] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: IP - 174.121.47.160, username - quiveote
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: cool
[07:21] <milamber> nicholas: did you edit that file in /etc/  (lsb-release)
[07:21] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: I have id_dsa & id_dsa.pub at my system
[07:22] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: do you have this directory "ls ~/.ssh" present? it will return an error if not after you ran that command in qoutes
[07:22] <Patero-ng> does unity sucks?
[07:22] <raesi> hi my sound not work in 12.04 plz help
[07:22] <dav1dp0101> tasos: your superuser password should be the password of the user that created the install.
[07:22] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: It has id_rsa.pub
[07:23] <SolarisBoy> hmm ok - thats fine i guess.. you want to copy those keys in taking care -not- to over write any thing there already..
[07:23] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: so you can copy them in as different names if you like for instance "cp /path/to/key_dsa ~/.ssh/hosting_key_rsa"
[07:23] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: in this ~/.ssh ?
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: and then "cp /path/to/key_dsa.pub ~/.ssh/hosting_key_rsa.pub"
[07:24] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Doing
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> yes RajeevK copy both keys there giving them unique names making sure you keep the pub and non-pub (private) seperate
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> once done let me know -
[07:25] <LearningNoob> Solar what are you guys talking about?
[07:25] <SolarisBoy> trying to help him use ssh public key auth to access a hosted box on the web
[07:25] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: It says - cp: cannot create regular file `/home/rajeev/.sss/quiveo_key_rsa': No such file or directory
[07:25] <LearningNoob> ah
[07:25] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: look at your command - you spelled .sss
[07:26] <raesi> my sound not work plz help
[07:26] <raesi> version 12.04
[07:26] <SolarisBoy> the directory should be .ssh as you mentioned it contains the one key file so far (that we want to take care not to overwrite, so watch your command when you do it, make sure to rename the files as previously posted)
[07:26] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Oh sorry...but now it's done
[07:26] <Patero-ng> raesi is it using open drivers or propietary
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: awesome - now you want to ensure they are permissioned properly (and owned properly)
[07:27] <pedahzur> So, now that Oracle doesn't let distros redistribute Java any more (siiiiigh), has anyone come up with a script that takes the binary blob (or RPM) from the Java site, and repackages it into a nice .deb file?
[07:27] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Now ls ~/.ssh show 3 files - id_rsa.pub  quiveo_key_rsa  quiveo_key_rsa.pub
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: "chmod 0600 ~/.ssh/*" if they are currently owned by root you will need to prefix it with sudo
[07:28] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: nice looks good now check the command there ^
[07:28] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: chmod done
[07:29] <nicholas> milamber: have done a restart with both lsb-release and os-release edited....didn't work?
[07:30] <milamber> what does lsb_release -a say?
[07:30] <milamber> nicholas*
[07:30] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: "ssh -i ~/.ssh/quiveo_key_rsa.pub -l quiveote 174.121.47.160"
[07:31] <tewe__> milamber: sorry it is 9.10
[07:31] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: ssh: connect to host 174.121.47.160 port 22: Connection refused
[07:31] <SolarisBoy> sweet
[07:31] <nicholas> milamber: no command by the name lsb-release
[07:32] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: and this is at a hosting provider correct?
[07:32] <milamber> lsb <underscore> release -a (lsb_release -a)
[07:32] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Yes it's shared hosting
[07:32] <cute_bettong> Snurre86, check your im's
[07:32] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: in which you paid/subscribed for ssh access that was confirmed? - if so maybe take a tcptraceroute to the ip and send them the results in a mail/ticket - or call their support line
[07:33] <Ben64> RajeevK: ssh is running on port 2222
[07:33] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: You mean I should contact hosting provider then...it's not the issue of my side
[07:33] <nicholas> milamber: it worked. thx :) but can i also edit the thing in system settings that says ubuntu 12.10
[07:35] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: no doesn't seem to be,, i mean unless ofcourse you have an invalid ip address or something
[07:35] <tewe__> is thera any method to upgrade or update  those end of life ubuntu verstion like 10.10,9.10?
[07:35] <SolarisBoy> or maybe even bad user
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !eol | tewe__
[07:36] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: is it theplanet or something?
[07:36] <Ben64> SolarisBoy RajeevK: ssh is running on port 2222
[07:37] <SolarisBoy> nice
[07:37] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: then you need to specify a special port i just actually did a tcptraceroute to the ip on 22 and got the rst packet myself
[07:37] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK:  ssh -o Port=2222 -i ~/.ssh/quiveo_key_rsa.pub -l quiveote 174.121.47.160
[07:38] <agsel> what should I modify to change /etc/mtab ?
[07:39] <milamber> nicholas: you should check the code for gnome-control-center (not sure about where it reads in the data for release)
[07:39] <SolarisBoy> agsel: you should use fstab
[07:39] <nicholas> okay i'll do that :)
[07:39] <SolarisBoy> agsel: /etc/fstab rather
[07:40] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Sorry...it was out of screen
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> no worries
[07:41] <agsel> SolarisBoy: if there are about 10 rows in mtab, but only 2 in fstab. and I want to modify one row in mtab, which is not present in fstab
[07:41] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Its asking unlock password for private key
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> agsel: which row is that?
[07:42] <agsel> SolarisBoy: virtualbox shared folder
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> RajeevK: priv keys can have passcodes - it would imply you knew it =)
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> you mean - inside the vm?
[07:42] <agsel> SolarisBoy: share /media/sf_share vboxsf gid=1001,rw 0 0
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> i think that gets mounted by vbox tools and stuff
[07:42] <brandon420> Can anyone direct me to a place to get help with pgp?
[07:42] <nicholas> how can i get/browse the source, "sudo apt-get source [pakage]" it dosen't show me the source?
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> if you enable the feature and have the tools installed - what did you want to do with the directory options?
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> nicholas: it would be under you current directory afaik and dont think you need sudo for it
[07:43] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: I just created then at cPanel without giving any password
[07:43] <nicholas> okay :)
[07:43] <agsel> SolarisBoy: otherwise the mounting is good, except I don't have permissions
[07:44] <agsel> SolarisBoy: I could unmount it and mount it again with different options (or into my home folder)
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> its mounted with gid 1001 which group is that? agsel
[07:44] <agsel> SolarisBoy: but I have to do it every time after reboot
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> maybe you can try to add your user to that group i believe those mount options are somewhere in vbox without control over them
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> agsel: you can write a script to mount and unmount it at boot up
[07:44] <SolarisBoy> if it's always present i guess..
[07:46] <agsel> SolarisBoy: is it the "right" way? to add myself to that group? or would be better to mount it somehow for my user? so that I'm the owner?
[07:47] <agsel> I guess I have enabled automounting somewhere in VB options. I could try to remove that and add it manually into fstab
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> that would be the right way - mounting it properly - but i was considering a workaround assuming you don't have access to when that call is made to mount
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> you can try just putting it fstab to see if that overrides whatever is mounting it
[07:47] <tewe__> jordan_U: can i lost my file when i upgrade?
[07:48] <agsel> SolarisBoy: ok, thanks. I will look into that
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> agsel: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> agsel: search for 'To mount a shared folder during boot, add the following entry'
[07:48] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: What to do now ?
[07:49] <Unifx> penis
[07:49] <SolarisBoy> sounds like a key error or an operator error RajeevK call your hosting provider - i would say check the logs and such - but you dont have access to them
[07:49] <RajeevK> SolarisBoy: Ok Thanks
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> yea
[07:51] <Unifx> any one have any decent widgets for gmail or any chat
[07:51] <Unifx> or is there even a widget for IRC?
[07:51] <Patero-ng> what's a widget like an app for tablets?
[07:51] <Unifx> its an app on main screen
[07:52] <Unifx> so i dont have to open it all the time
[07:52] <Unifx> its always tehre
[07:52] <SolarisBoy> easy interaction
[07:52] <Unifx> like i have a few for temp management but i want something more usefull
[07:52] <Patero-ng> widget sounds like a plugin for a browser to me
[07:53] <Unifx> have you got a smart phone
[07:53] <m1r1> unfix, try conky
[07:53] <Unifx> thanks mlrl
[07:53] <Patero-ng> I have a cellphone with a keyboard that I don't use
[07:54] <m1r1> who needs phone when u have irc ^^
[07:54] <Patero-ng> that's true!
[07:54] <SolarisBoy> call 911?
[07:54] <Patero-ng> why
[07:54] <m1r1> cavalry always comes late , in best case late , so no use for 911 imho :)
[07:54] <Patero-ng> I don't trust the system
[07:55] <SolarisBoy> lol okies
[07:55] <Unifx> haha man i havnt used irc in years
[07:55] <Unifx> missed it :(
[07:55] <Unifx> i have forgotten all codes haha
[07:56] <Patero-ng> there is a cool irc program for ubuntu but I forgot what it was called is not xchat
[07:57] <Unifx> ah yeah thats what im using now. xchat only because all i had access today at work was my konsole terminal
[07:57] <Unifx> was running lynx browser hahaha
[07:57] <m1r1> http://www.irssi.org/
[07:59] <SolarisBoy> was using bitchX at one point then switched to irssi never looked back
[08:00] <Unifx> meow
[08:00] <Unifx> ping
[08:00] <Unifx> ping Unifx
[08:00] <SolarisBoy> uhh "/command args"
[08:01] <Unifx> jhaha
[08:02] <Patero-ng> irssi has a terminal look to it why do you like it
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> its not a terminal look - its a terminal app
[08:02] <m1r1> speed, eficency, stability
[08:02] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> easily extended - writing plugins and making changes is also easy
[08:03] <pinchweldy> anyone know how to enable either ftp or nfs server in ubuntu 11.10?
[08:03] <SolarisBoy> although its the same for pidgin but meh - id rather use my memory on more useful things
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> pinchweldy: sure why ftp though? you can use sftp or scp to xfer files and securely
[08:04] <m1r1> pinchweldy: nfs is fastest, and easy to setup
[08:04] <pinchweldy> need to connect from win2k
[08:04] <SolarisBoy> yep
[08:04] <m1r1> pinchweldy: use samba
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> why? unless you need to incorporate winblows
[08:05] <pinchweldy> can't make any changes on win2k, using guest account
[08:05] <SolarisBoy> ahh didn't see that win2k thingy
[08:05] <m1r1> samba ^^
[08:06] <pinchweldy> so samba can be enabled on ubuntu only? without making ANY changes on win2k?
[08:06] <SolarisBoy> sure
[08:06] <pinchweldy> ok, how can i do it?
[08:07] <m1r1> pinchweldy:  got gui or CLI on ubuntu ?
[08:07] <pinchweldy> gui
[08:08] <m1r1> go synaptic , install samba
[08:09] <m1r1> after install system-config-samba and configure your shares
[08:09] <pinchweldy> ah, i see, thank you!
[08:09] <m1r1> for more options on shares you can use gadmin-samba
[08:10] <Unifx> haha installed conky and now cant even close it
[08:10] <zantekk> killall conky
[08:10] <m1r1> just look to install samba (version3) as i am not sure if tthese gui tools works with samba 4
[08:10] <m1r1> pkill conky
[08:10] <m1r1> and is not intended to be killed :D
[08:10] <Unifx> ta
[08:10] <pinchweldy> but doesn't samba require a shared folder to be setup on win2k also?
[08:11] <m1r1> pinchy
[08:11] <Unifx> yeah but the conky had no skins
[08:11] <Unifx> looked a tad boring
[08:11] <m1r1> conky need manual skining
[08:11] <helmut_> hi
[08:11] <m1r1> a bit of work
[08:11] <Unifx> yeah im a bit lazy at the moment
[08:11] <m1r1> but options are ...
[08:11] <zantekk> or search for premade conky confs
[08:11] <Unifx> just want a quick set up, work on another later
[08:11] <Unifx> will do :)
[08:11] <SolarisBoy> yea they have a lot of prebuilt stuff online
[08:12] <m1r1> pinchweldy:  one share is needed for server
[08:12] <pinchweldy> because as a guest user on win2k, i can't create a shared folder there
[08:12] <zantekk> does anyone of you had worked with a xerox colorqube?
[08:13] <m1r1> pinchweldy: you need transfer data to win2k or to *nix ?
[08:13] <SnapSnap> When I do "sudo apt-get upgrade" I get "dpkg: error processing linux-headers-3.5.0-21 (--configure):   package linux-headers-3.5.0-21 is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')  Errors were encountered while processing:   linux-headers-3.5.0-21  E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[08:14] <pinchweldy> both ways actually, but primarily to Linux
[08:14] <zantekk> SnapSnap: tried sudo apt-get -f install?
[08:14] <m1r1> pinchweldy: with one share you will be enough for file transfers
[08:14] <m1r1> server(share)*nix <<< LAN >>> win2k's
[08:14] <SnapSnap> zantekk, returns the same message
[08:15] <pinchweldy> but how does win2k know about the share - how do you go about accessing the share from win2k?
[08:15] <zantekk> m1r1: is there any comfortable gui client for managing samba shares? I have to deal with a lot of them, would make my life much easier
[08:15] <m1r1> zantekk: system-config-samba , gadmin-samba or such
[08:16] <coraxx> ok...here is a silly question.  How do I type the circumflex symbol in Ubuntu ...(just the symbol ...not with any letters underneath) ?
[08:16] <m1r1> pinchweldy: samba will take care for you
[08:16] <coraxx> (oh ...and I have the Danish Keyboard Layout)
[08:16] <m1r1> pinchweldy: you need just one share for start, later you figure out storage paths
[08:17] <pinchweldy> ok thank you. I will give it a try. Thanks m1r1!
[08:17] <Patero-ng> does ubuntu comes with directx
[08:17] <zantekk> m1r1: ty
[08:17] <zantekk> nope
[08:17] <m1r1> nps guys :)
[08:17] <zantekk> its win stuff
[08:18] <Patero-ng> then I can't play my racing game
[08:18] <m1r1> Patero-ng: try install WINE
[08:18] <m1r1> maybe its supported
[08:18] <Patero-ng> is that a open source version of directx
[08:19] <m1r1> Patero-ng: its diferent
[08:19] <Patero-ng> ok
[08:19] <m1r1> it can install windows programs
[08:19] <m1r1> but DX9,10,11 ... otehr story
[08:20] <SnapSnap> zantekk, any ideas?
[08:20] <m1r1> SnapSnap: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:23] <Unifx> meow
[08:24] <Unifx> sd
[08:24] <Unifx> :)
[08:26] <zantekk> Patero-ng: wine is just a kind of "translator" which "translates" windows-calls into unix-calls, doens't work perfect but its getting better and better ;)
[08:27] <SnapSnap> m1r1, when I tried "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" It returned "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)  E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?" right after reading the package lists
[08:27] <zantekk> SnapSnap: "sudo" is missing at the second command
[08:30] <SnapSnap> zantekk, when I run "apt-get update" with and without sudo, both complete. When I run "apt-get dist-upgrade" without sudo it returns the above error. With sudo it returns the original error.
[08:31] <Patero-ng> so what if I run dxsetup from wine can that turn my ubuntu into a gaming platform
[08:31] <m1r1> SnapSnap: apt-get install -f
[08:31] <zantekk> Patero-ng: no, if you want to see which games run well on linux, especially with wine, visit http://appdb.winehq.com
[08:32] <m1r1> Patero-ng: you be better off with native linux games
[08:32] <zantekk> SnapSnap: try the following commans, step by step.. :
[08:32] <zantekk> sudo apt-get install -f, sudo apt-get clean, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:32] <m1r1> zantek ^^
[08:32] <zantekk> what? ^^
[08:32] <m1r1> :) nice
[08:33] <zantekk> first day in the channel, only try to help :)
[08:33] <m1r1> then welcome :)
[08:33] <zantekk> thanks ;)
[08:34] <SnapSnap> m1r1, zantekk, It looked like it was downloading linux-headers-3.5.0-21 but then returned the original error. :(
[08:34] <SnapSnap> zantekk, thanks for the help
[08:34] <m1r1> SnapSnap: fixed ?
[08:35] <SnapSnap> m1r1, no :( "Errors were encountered while processing: linux-headers-3.5.0-21"
[08:35] <m1r1> SnapSnap: got previos kernel versions ?
[08:35] <zantekk> SnapSnap: 32 or 64 bit?
[08:36] <SnapSnap> m1r1, I'm running 12.10 and updated this morning. zantekk, 32 bit
[08:36] <zantekk> wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-headers-3.5.0-21-generic_3.5.0-21.32_i386.deb
[08:36] <m1r1> SnapSnap: try boot with 3.5.0-20 ?
[08:36] <zantekk> sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-3.5.0-21-generic_3.5.0-21.32_i386.deb
[08:37] <SnapSnap> zantekk, got it. now what? m1r1 how?
[08:38] <zantekk> downloaded the .deb?
[08:38] <zantekk> and installed it?
[08:39] <SnapSnap> zantekk, one sec. installing
[08:42] <SnapSnap> zantekk, won't install. :/ Anyway, I'm off here for now. I'll try again in a few hours.
[08:42] <SnapSnap> zantekk, m1r1 Thanks for all the help.
[08:42] <zantekk> okay, np
[08:46] <Polwar> hey
[08:46] <zantekk> hey
[08:47] <Polwar> i think im in the wrong channel. is this where i can ask about communications with my phone? or should i try #android?
[08:47] <Unifx> mwhahhaha love ordering pizza online and roomie picking it up
[08:48] <Unifx> haha try android unless your running linux or ubuntu on it
[08:48] <Unifx> whats the prob any way
[08:48] <zantekk> yeah Polwar , I'm good at Android, whats the prob?
[08:49] <Polwar> ok. well i accidentally soft bricked my nexus. im trying to figure out how to push to my gnex sdcard, but i cant get my pc to read it in bootloader
[08:49] <zantekk> you need the android sdk
[08:49] <Polwar> i have that but it will only read while phone is on
[08:50] <zantekk> after you got it you can work with adb to push or pull files
[08:50] <Unifx> hehehe just re-directed my mates router instead of going to google.com it goes to meatspin
[08:50] <zantekk> can you boot into recovery?
[08:50] <Polwar> it wont show up in adb devices in fastboot
[08:50] <Polwar> recovery and bootloader but not the os
[08:50] <zantekk> go into recovery
[08:50] <zantekk> do you have cwm?
[08:51] <Polwar> yeah i have touch
[08:51] <zantekk> haha nice, me too :) boot into it, mount /sdcard
[08:51] <Polwar> ive alredy formatted everything though
[08:51] <zantekk> then adb kill-server
[08:51] <zantekk> adb shell
[08:51] <Polwar> one sec
[08:52] <Polwar> will linux detect it in recovery mode?
[08:54] <zantekk> I think you need the android udev rules mom
[08:54] <Polwar> ?
[08:55] <Polwar> adb wont even detect it though :/
[08:55] <zantekk> pls try this at first: http://forums.androidcentral.com/linux/57132-how-set-up-udev-rules-ubuntu-10-10-a.html
[08:56] <turkmandrake> hello
[08:57] <black_angel> may be you need to be <root user> using 'sudo su', and then type "adb devices"
[08:57] <Polwar> oh wow im still on 10.04 lol
[08:58] <zantekk> what? :D
[08:58] <black_angel> lol
[08:58] <Sta1ker> list
[08:58] <zantekk> and yes, black_angel  is right, you have to use sudo
[08:58] <Polwar> windows didnt detect it. lets see if ubu does lol
[08:59] <black_angel> it must change to be <root user>
[08:59] <zantekk> maybe you're still running win95? ^^
[08:59] <Polwar> close! 'xp lmao
[09:00] <Polwar> from like '02
[09:00] <zantekk> oh..okay. You should think about "I-Update-All-My-Systems"-Day
[09:00] <zantekk> but pls do not install win8..
[09:00] <hipstar2> is it possible to assess if a USB device is drawing power?
[09:01] <black_angel> Polwar: adb will detect your android device automatically in linux os. But first you must change to be root user, and then...anything is ok.
[09:01] <Polwar> ....wth is my root pass now...
[09:01] <Ben64> Polwar, black_angel: you don't need to be root to use adb
[09:02] <zantekk> you have to if youre not in the adbusers group
[09:02] <zantekk> or at least use sudo
[09:02] <black_angel> Ben64: zantekk is right.
[09:03] <Ben64> black_angel, zantekk: that is not correct
[09:03] <black_angel> Ben64: I always change to be root user to run 'adb devices'
[09:03] <zantekk> it is, if it isn't, we have a big lack in the unix kernel security system
[09:04] <black_angel> Ben64: when i just using 'sudo adb devices', it doesn't work.
[09:04] <Ben64> black_angel: just because you use root doesn't mean you have to; zantekk: there is no security flaw from being able to use a binary as a normal user
[09:05] <zantekk> black_angel: adb kill-server
[09:05] <zantekk> then try again
[09:05] <black_angel> Ben64: I don't know why, so my fix is to be root user.
[09:05] <Ben64> thats a bad fix
[09:05] <Polwar> sorry, but can you link the adb tools for linux?
[09:05] <zantekk> Ben64: but the binary must have access to the kernel so it has to set the kernel bit
[09:05] <zantekk> that's a bad thing as normal user
[09:05] <Polwar> i got it
[09:06] <zantekk> Polwar: wuhu! :)
[09:06] <Polwar> not detected
[09:06] <Ben64> zantekk: I don't think you know what you're talking about
[09:06] <zantekk> :(
[09:06] <Polwar> just found the adb tools lol
[09:06] <black_angel> Polwar: adb kill-server
[09:07] <black_angel> Polwar: and then start it. adb start-server
[09:07] <zantekk> Ben64: why? every program which needs several hardware components or access to the kernel has to switch the kernel bit to get access to it
[09:07] <Polwar> nvmd, can you link the tools dl page please?
[09:07] <Ben64> zantekk: no
[09:08] <Ben64> Polwar: have you tried googling "adb linux"? it's the first result
[09:08] <m1r1> zantekk: program used by who ? :D
[09:08] <zantekk> Ben64: of course, I'm studying information engineering and that's what we've learned
[09:08] <zhenbeiju> Polwar,  maybe you need set a file like   http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
[09:08] <Ben64> zantekk: that's nice, but still wrong
[09:08] <zhenbeiju> the page's tag "Configuring USB Access"
[09:10] <Polwar> dl'ing right now. sorry guys, i hope this is a linux noob friendly channel lol
[09:11] <m1r1> everyone was noob once ;)
[09:12] <Ben64> Polwar: what exactly are you trying to accomplish
[09:13] <zantekk> Ben64: so every user has unlimited access to kernel functions? oO I don't think so..
[09:13] <m1r1> zantekk: it depends all on user, thats the beauty
[09:13] <Polwar> soft bricked my galnex.
[09:13] <Polwar>  wont pass google splash screen
[09:14] <zantekk> Ben64: on the groups he is in
[09:14] <Ben64> Polwar: well this channel is for Ubuntu support, not android support : /
[09:14] <Hapzzz> how do i stop the annoying window groupin
[09:14] <swiftkey> hello there
[09:14] <Ben64> zantekk: you know, adb doesn't really do anything on the local computer
[09:15] <zantekk> Ben64: yes, but does it not need access to the usb interface?
[09:15] <black_angel> there is an android-developer channel, may be #developer-android or #android-developer, I don't know, but there must be.
[09:16] <Ben64> there is #android #android-root both of which would be more appropriate
[09:16] <black_angel> just have fun.
[09:16] <swiftkey> i get this tons of errors
[09:16] <zantekk> pls use pastebin..
[09:16] <Abhijit> !details | swiftkey
[09:16] <swiftkey> pastie.org/5556304
[09:17] <swiftkey> i already tried apt-get -f
[09:17] <swiftkey> upgrade
[09:17] <swiftkey> dist-upgrade
[09:17] <swiftkey> and update
[09:17] <swiftkey> but its still the same
[09:17] <zantekk> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:17] <zantekk> sudo apt-get clean and then upgrade again
[09:19] <joey8> is "apt-get clean" a normally safe command to run??
[09:19] <morpheus> ciao
[09:19] <morpheus> !list
[09:19] <Patero-ng> can ubuntu run codmw2
[09:19] <Patero-ng> tru wine
[09:20] <Ben64> Patero-ng: check the appdb
[09:20] <joey8> zantekk→ is "apt-get clean" a normally safe command to run??
[09:21] <eGetin> yes it is
[09:21] <joey8> eGetin→ thanx
[09:22] <swiftkey> hello again
[09:22] <swiftkey> i need to quit
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> ok
[09:22] <swiftkey> my xchat doesnt cooperate
[09:22] <swiftkey> i still have the same error
[09:22] <swiftkey> hmm
[09:23] <swiftkey> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:23] <eGetin> did you use it with sudo?
[09:24] <joey8> egadw→ yes thanx
[09:24] <joey8> eGetin→ ooops - yes thanx
[09:26] <Patero-ng> sudo sounds japanese
[09:26] <pedahzur> To answer my own question: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[09:34] <swiftkey> here is another error again
[09:34] <swiftkey> dpkg: error processing fonts-opensymbol (--configure):
[09:34] <swiftkey>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[09:34] <swiftkey>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[09:36] <Patero-ng> any euros in here
[09:39] <auronandace> Patero-ng: why is that important?
[09:40] <eniac> When using byobu I get 2 hardstatus lines from screen
[09:40] <Patero-ng> I want to ask them a regional question
[09:40] <Abhijit> Patero-ng, we have country specific channels
[09:40] <Patero-ng> but this is world wide
[09:40] <eniac> How can I disable byobu's default hardstatus line for screen ?
[09:40] <axgb> My mic port does not work on my laptop, Are there any drivers to fix it
[09:41] <Abhijit> Patero-ng, then ask here only
[09:41] <aeon-ltd> axgb: check if your mic works then check if the input's muted
[09:41] <axgb> no
[09:42] <axgb> the microphone literally has to be in your mouth for it to give a tiny bit of very bad quality sould
[09:42] <axgb> and it works perfect on windows XP this laptop is dualboot with
[09:42] <swiftkey> http://pastie.org/5556354
[09:42] <swiftkey> i hve this error now
[09:43] <swiftkey> already removed the other one
[09:43] <swiftkey> but this one sticks
[09:43] <swiftkey> hehe
[09:44] <Patero-ng> axgb you still use xp? amazing I use it on my other pc with older cpu
[09:45] <MrWibbles> hey i was reading this guide on server security, and one of the suggestions was to uninstall any packages you don't need
[09:45] <MrWibbles> good advice?
[09:45] <axgb> Yes, I still use xp, but I mainly use Lubuntu. I really prefer XP to 7 or vista. Its not like outdated, all software still works on it, i see no point in upgrading
[09:45] <axgb> now the mic is silent
[09:46] <axgb> but i did change some settings
[09:46] <m1r1> MrWibbles: more packages = harder to pinpoint problem, same for security
[09:46] <MrWibbles> https://gist.github.com/5e4e2c37a0d857d079f3 << any ideas if i need or should remove any of these packages/
[09:46] <MrWibbles> m1r1: right.. but working out which ones you can remove
[09:46] <MrWibbles> without breaking stuff. is not that easy right?
[09:47] <m1r1> MrWibbles: i use minimal servr install , then build up what i need
[09:47] <Ben64> MrWibbles: only you know what you need
[09:47] <axgb> how do i fix soud card problems
[09:47] <Patero-ng> can I play supernintendo on ubuntu
[09:47] <m1r1> Patero-ng: YES!!! :D
[09:47] <MrWibbles> Ben64: oh.. as i do apt-get install.. then only specific packages will kick in?
[09:47] <MrWibbles> because they will show up in the dependecies
[09:47] <m1r1> MrWibbles: and their dependencys
[09:48] <MrWibbles> ah ok
[09:48] <MrWibbles> yeah i use my hosting providers default package
[09:48] <MonkeyDust> Patero-ng  http://maketecheasier.com/play-classic-console-games-in-linux/2009/11/13?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MakeTechEasier+%28Make+Tech+Easier%29&utm_content=Google+Reader <-- NES
[09:48] <Patero-ng> m1r1 wanna play?
[09:48] <m1r1> Patero-ng: work, work , work :(
[09:49] <Patero-ng> work and play
[09:49] <m1r1> :D
[09:49] <Patero-ng> say to your boss I'm testing this controller or sum works with my mom
[09:49] <m1r1> lol :D only problem, i am boss :(
[09:50] <Patero-ng> then tell some of your employee to play with me
[09:50] <m1r1> :D:D:D
[09:50] <Patero-ng> how old are you? what do you work on? where?
[09:53] <kaleidon> hi everyone :)
[09:54] <kaleidon> i get this when i run ps aux | grep http://pastebin.com/RFiRnnkP how do i start apache as not root?
[09:55] <l057c0d3r> join #ubuntu-chat
[09:55] <szx> is /etc/envoronment ignored if I specify a DEFAULT value in pam_env.conf ?
[09:55] <l057c0d3r> join #ubuntu-chat
[09:55] <l057c0d3r> join #lubuntu-chat
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> Patero-ng  better /join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of chit chat
[09:56] <DJones> l057c0d3r: You're missing the "/" in front of the join command
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> i realise that now :-p
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> heh sorry
[09:56] <kaleidon> i thought that's what you were telling me to do lol
[09:56] <l057c0d3r> its what i get for talking in to many places and trying to skype at the same time
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> thanks for nick alerting me though.. because i was going wtf in my head
[09:57] <l057c0d3r> :-)
[09:58] <dcherniv> kaleidon, the main process is started as root which forks child processes as www-data
[09:58] <dcherniv> kaleidon, this is normal
[09:58] <kaleidon> dcherniv: *phew* ! thank you so much :)
[09:59] <diverdude> I have 12.10. How do i set Windows-button+D to minimize all and show desktop?
[10:00] <kaleidon> one more thing, who should the owner of the apache dir be? should it be www-data with the group ownership as www-data as well?
[10:00] <Patero-ng> kaleidon the owner should be lex luthor
[10:01] <kaleidon> sorry, by apache dir, i mean the folder that the virtualhost is running from
[10:01] <dcherniv> kaleidon, the owner of wwwroot dir is www-data
[10:01] <dcherniv> kaleidon, right
[10:01] <kaleidon> and group as well?
[10:01] <dcherniv> kaleidon, yes
[10:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:03] <kaleidon> dcherniv: if i ls -l i get drwxr-xr-x  9 root root     4096 Dec 20 11:11 www  but apache still seems to be able to serve files normally. is that normal?
[10:03] <dcherniv> kaleidon, also you can set different users for different vhosts.
[10:04] <dcherniv> kaleidon, yes because www-data can still read the files, since you have read permissions for other
[10:04] <kaleidon> dcherniv: is that what shared hosts do? sym link to users host dir then set their vhost folder as theyr own account?
[10:04] <dcherniv> kaleidon, drwxr-xr-x, last r-x is READ for everyone that is not root
[10:04] <dcherniv> kaleidon, exactly
[10:05] <dcherniv> kaleidon, thats what we did back when i was working for webhosting company
[10:05] <Guest54409> i need help with printer sharing via cups and avahi
[10:06] <Guest54409> in the past CUPS could share printers in a generic way so the clients didn't need a specific driver
[10:06] <kaleidon> dcherniv: ahhhh! i've always wondered how that worked :) how did you go about automatically allocating space etc to the user? is that something you can automate with standard linux, or do you need 3rd party software for that?
[10:06] <Guest54409> now i fail to setup cups and avahi to share my printer with a generic interface
[10:06] <cub> i thought CUPS is what people drank out of
[10:07] <dcherniv> kaleidon, for VPS we used VMware, when user ran out of space or requested more space the virtual machine was automatically cloned, ips reassigned, old vmachine was shut down and new one brought online
[10:08] <dcherniv> kaleidon, im sure there's different way to accomplish that on standard linux, LVM maybe, vmware was simply easy
[10:08] <kaleidon> dcherniv: i meant more for shared hosting :)
[10:09] <Patero-ng> cub you are so funny man
[10:09] <Ben64> kaleidon: you can have user quotas
[10:09] <cub> thx
[10:10] <kaleidon> Ben64: and is that folder specific or everything that the user owns? eg, do you set a quota on /home/<user> and whatever symlinks off it for example?
[10:10] <cub> great
[10:10] <cub> gnome panel is being gay
[10:10] <cub> time to kill it
[10:11] <hateball> Patero-ng: Do you explicitly need avahi? Otherwise you can use cups client.conf
[10:11] <Ben64> kaleidon: usually it's their home directory
[10:11] <Patero-ng> hateball me?
[10:11] <vitimiti> \o/
[10:12] <kaleidon> Ben64: so in the case of shared hosting, you'd vhost out of their home dir, yeah?
[10:12] <Ben64> yeah
[10:12] <dcherniv> kaleidon, ah. shared hosting was manual. All user data was on a big RAID, on some servers up to 2000+ users on the same storage array. We used filesystem quota to limit space available to each user
[10:12] <hateball> Patero-ng: oh I thought you were Guest54409, my bad
[10:12] <hateball> Guest54409:  Do you explicitly need avahi? Otherwise you can use cups client.conf
[10:12] <dcherniv> kaleidon, if RAID ran out of space we simply threw couple more disks in it or move biggest users to a new RAID
[10:12] <kaleidon> dcherniv: ahh, ok!
[10:13] <kaleidon> dcherniv and Ben64 thank you so much for your help :)
[10:14] <kaleidon> actually, i have one more question. should I set the serving dir (in this case there is and only ever will be 1 serving dir for this machine) to chown www-data and chgrp www-data?
[10:15] <Guest54409> hateball, i'd like to advertise to printer to all network clients including guests
[10:16] <joey8> Guest54409→ no adverts allowed
[10:16] <joey8> :)
[10:16] <hateball> Guest54409: Alright. I'm not in the know with avahi so I'll step back
[10:16] <dcherniv> kaleidon, if you have active pages (ie wordpress and such) better localize it to a separate directory and give apache write perm to that directory only
[10:16] <dcherniv> kaleidon, i wouldnt give apache write perm to entire wwwroot
[10:17] <kaleidon> dcherniv: even when there's only 1 site in that dir?
[10:17] <dcherniv> kaleidon, what kind of site?
[10:17] <kaleidon> dcherniv: Drupal, so a php based cms
[10:18] <kaleidon> i know there is only one dir that needs write access as its current instance, but that might change
[10:18] <dcherniv> kaleidon, yes it should be safe to change the owner then
[10:19] <kaleidon> dcherniv: awesome! thank you very much :)
[10:19] <kaleidon> dcherniv++
[10:19] <kaleidon> Ben64++
[10:19] <dcherniv> kaleidon, the way i would do it is, everything is read only and go from there though
[10:19] <dcherniv> kaleidon, remember to keep drupal install up to date
[10:20] <kaleidon> dcherniv: yeah, the drupal side of things i can manage. i do that for a living :) it's the linux/ubuntu bit that i'm not too familiar with. i come from whinedoze
[10:20] <user82_> hi. how can i delay autostart programs? adding sleep 5 && [originalcommand] in startup programs does not work. do i need "" or something?
[10:20] <dcherniv> kaleidon, ah, good to go then
[10:21]  * dcherniv brb formation
[10:25] <elect> 123456
[10:25] <elect> 1
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> elect  it works, you're in
[10:27] <skp1> monkeydust
[10:28] <kaleidon> dcherniv: thanks again :)
[10:28] <joey8> sorry guys i know this is asked so many times BUT what is the command to see which version of unbuntu i am running. thanx. (sorry)
[10:29] <joey8> - - please somebody?
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> joey8: you can use lsb_release -sc
[10:29] <joey8> SolarisBoy→ thanks v m
[10:29] <SolarisBoy> yw
[10:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[10:30] <joey8> SolarisBoy→ ah ha this gives me the NAME of the release and not the NUMBER
[10:30] <joey8> i need the number
[10:30] <joey8> please
[10:30] <strempo> hey guys
[10:30] <grish> woah
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> joey8: lsb_release -a
[10:30] <joey8> ah
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> joey8: or just -d really but both will give that also
[10:30] <joey8> SolarisBoy→ aaaaaah thats it - thanx very much
[10:30] <SolarisBoy> yw
[10:31] <Sefid_par> I wanted to program my microcontroller using uisp and parallel port
[10:31] <Sefid_par> using this command: uisp -dprog=dapa -dlpt=0x378
[10:31] <Sefid_par> But I got error: Failed to get direct I/O port access.
[10:31] <Sefid_par> What does it mean?
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> that it failed to access the i/o port - possibly permissions?
[10:32] <Sefid_par> and before the error: "ioprm: success"
[10:32] <SolarisBoy> Sefid_par: what user did you do it as?
[10:33] <Sefid_par> SolarisBoy: I used ubuntu live
[10:33] <Sefid_par> SolarisBoy: I think it has the administrative permission
[10:33] <OpenSorce> !netflix
[10:34] <OpenSorce> Thougt so...
[10:38] <distrozione> can anyone help me?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> distrozione  start with a question
[10:40] <distrozione> i have a problem with my wifi antenna... i can "reach" (sorry my english is very bad) my connection but i can't download, use the browser or anything else...
[10:40] <distrozione> i think can be the driver or the network manager, because aircrack and similiar programs by terminal still work
[10:40] <tombevers> Hi all.
[10:41] <tombevers> I just did an apt-get update on a server (Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick)
[10:41] <maetthew-> anyone know why i get this error?
[10:41] <maetthew-> why ZNC
[10:41] <maetthew-> [11:41:13] <*status>	 Attempting to connect to [irc.quakenet.org 6667] ...
[10:41] <maetthew-> [11:41:13] <*status>	 Cannot connect to IRC (Cannot assign requested address (Is your IRC server's host name valid?)). Retrying...
[10:41] <maetthew-> ubuntu 12.04
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> tombevers  10.10 is no longer in use or supported
[10:42] <maetthew-> *with ZNC
[10:42] <tombevers> and got Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> tombevers  it's because 10.10 is !eol
[10:43] <jonesn420> hi
[10:44] <jonesn420> could someone point me to the directory where the autostart configuration is for lubuntu?
[10:44] <jonesn420> so I can ADD programs to it
[10:44] <sfsdfsdf> d
[10:44] <sfsdfsdf> dd
[10:44] <sfsdfsdf> dd
[10:45] <sfsdfsdf> d
[10:45] <sfsdfsdf> hello?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> sfsdfsdf  ok, you're in
[10:45] <sfsdfsdf> How would i replace eth0 with a wifi?
[10:45] <sfsdfsdf> Like what is the name for wifi like ethernet is eth0
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> !wifi > sfsdfsdf start here
[10:46] <tombevers> Thanks for the response @MonkeyDust
[10:46] <sfsdfsdf> I dont need that information
[10:46] <sfsdfsdf> Im looking to replace a setting in a conky conf
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> sfsdfsdf  usually, it would be wlan0
[10:46] <sfsdfsdf> its set to eth0 but i am on wifi
[10:46] <sfsdfsdf> need to know what i would type so the conf reads from my wifi
[10:46] <sfsdfsdf> wlan0 ill try
[10:46] <jonesn420> wlan0 sfsdfsdf or wlan1 would be what to use if u did not know
[10:47] <jonesn420> ifconfig will tell u
[10:48] <sfsdfsdf> ifconfig doesnt tell, but wlan0 worked thanks
[10:49] <jonesn420> could someone please point me to the directory of lubuntu to add programs to startup and to also remove some. the folder directory. to edit with leafpad. i know how to just dont remember the directory and linux directories are foreign to me lol
[10:50] <ouyes> jonesn420, what is lubuntu
[10:50] <sfsdfsdf> I love conky
[10:51] <ibi> hello, I have an Acer Aspire One with 32bit Ubuntu 12.04 installed, and my WebCam doesnt work, I couldnt get proper answer googling. How can i make it work? my lsusb output for this: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera
[10:52] <sfsdfsdf> get proper drivers for it
[10:52] <ibi> there is a video0 device
[10:52] <ibi> sfsdfsdf: from where ?
[10:53] <rokj> hi; anyone knows how would i change boot logo during boot in livecd?
[10:53] <sfsdfsdf> There website ? if they support linux or open source if you can find any
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ouyes  lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde, something lighter and faster than gnome
[10:54] <sfsdfsdf> Why would you want to change the boot logo on a livecd?
[10:55] <matanya> hi, just went into this error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207680/run-jnlp-application-on-xubuntu-12-10
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> rokj  you would have to change the live cd itself
[10:58] <jonesn420> could someone please point me to the directory of lubuntu to add programs to startup and to also remove some. the folder directory. to edit with leafpad. i know how to just dont remember the directory and linux directories are foreign to me lol
[10:58] <SolarisBoy> rokj: sure check out live-build package
[10:59] <SolarisBoy> its fairly simple using that package to change the boot splash and more (like the packages, content, etc)
[11:01] <rokj> MonkeyDust, i know, just do not kknow where to find splash image, i am booting over network using pxelinux and want to change that logo during boot
[11:02] <rokj> SolarisBoy, i did
[11:02] <SolarisBoy> that package also lets you just remix the pxelinux stuff also
[11:02] <SolarisBoy> rokj: you'll need to reference the docs from here
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> rokj: i would look at the docs on debian site, if you peek at the man pages for ubuntu the devs hint to check there for most up to date docs
[11:03] <SolarisBoy> if you go to the html page and search for splash you'll find the info
[11:04] <SolarisBoy> i recently saw a manual for customizing the splash rle file manually in pxelinux -- lost it
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> rokj  opened an ubuntu iso with archive manager - there's /./pics/logo-50.jpg
[11:05] <rokj> SolarisBoy, thx
[11:05] <rokj> MonkeyDust, thx
[11:05] <commie_> Excuse me, I got Shank 2 and it won't extract
[11:05] <SolarisBoy> yea thats probably easier - thought you actually wanted to do other customization @live cd stuff
[11:06] <commie_> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
[11:06] <commie_> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[11:06] <commie_> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[11:06] <commie_> What does this mean?
[11:06] <rokj> MonkeyDust, thats not the right image
[11:06] <l057c0d3r> that the end of the file came before it should have
[11:06] <l057c0d3r> more then likely the archive is damaged or corrupt
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> rokj  i'm browsing the mounted iso
[11:08] <commie_> Why would humble bundle release a corrupted archive?
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> commie_ i would try redownloading it...  or finding it from another source..
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> stuff happens
[11:08] <commie_> I got both the direct link and the torrent
[11:08] <commie_> same issues
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> it might have got corrupted while being downloaded.. happens from time to time
[11:08] <l057c0d3r> hmm..
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> rokj  try isolinux/splash.png
[11:09] <jonesn420> could someone please point me to the directory of lubuntu to add programs to startup and to also remove some. the folder directory. to edit with leafpad. i know how to just dont remember the directory and linux directories are foreign to me lol
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> rokj  or splash.pcx
[11:09] <rokj> MonkeyDust, i want to change this one http://ctrlv.in/146270
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> commie_ my best bet would be to try to find another source. or contacdt humble bundle..
[11:09] <l057c0d3r> err contacdt
[11:10] <jonesn420> how are there hundreds in here and 5 talk?
[11:10] <jonesn420> wtf
[11:10] <l057c0d3r> sigh.. im tired i cant type...  contact
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> rokj  i see, don't know how to do that
[11:10] <commie_> ok
[11:10] <dr_willis> would you rather there be 10?
[11:10] <rokj> MonkeyDust, ok thx anyway
[11:10] <l057c0d3r> jonesn420..  there should be a app in the lxde settings for that...
[11:10] <l057c0d3r> if i remember correctly
[11:11] <jonesn420> there isn't l057c0d3r i mean there is but you can only click to enable or disable the current there is no where to add or remove
[11:12] <l057c0d3r> jonesn420, ~/.config/autostart
[11:12] <jonesn420> thank you l057c0d3r
[11:13] <l057c0d3r> and btw.. most people just idle in  here.. so they are connected but sleeping.. working.. just not at computer..  or maybe even doing other things atm
[11:14] <TannerNCruz> Is anyone available to evaluate my Partitioning Schema for my first Linux HDD :)?
[11:14] <liefer> I have setup a small home server, how do i get a DNS record without buying a domain? I remember back in the day you could get <whatever>.opendns.com , but i think they no longer offers that? What are the alternatives?
[11:15] <liefer> TannerNCruz: if its your very first time, why not let ubuntu do it for you?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> liefer  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:15] <srhb> liefer: Sounds like you want to search for dynamic dns services
[11:15] <l057c0d3r> TannerNCruz, sure what you got
[11:15] <liefer> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:15] <TannerNCruz> Because I did my research and it's my first self builst Desktop unit and I want it to be special :3.
[11:15] <liefer> srhb: thanks, i will. You happen to be able to recommend any?
[11:15] <TannerNCruz> I'll paste it, one moment please.
[11:15] <l057c0d3r> liefer.. dynodns ?
[11:15] <liefer> thanks
[11:15] <srhb> liefer: No, but I can recommend buying a domain, it's cheap. :P That is, if you can get a static WAN IP.
[11:16] <TannerNCruz> /dev/hda
[11:16] <TannerNCruz> Windows: Partitioning irrelevant.
[11:16] <TannerNCruz> /dev/hdb (Linux: Ubuntu 12.XX/250000MB(250GB) Sata HDD/3.0 GBps)
[11:16] <TannerNCruz>       /dev/hd1 Primary /(root) 4000MB(4GB)
[11:16] <TannerNCruz>       /dev/hd2 Primary /boot 100MB(0.1GB)
[11:16] <TannerNCruz>       /dev/hd3 Extended (no association) no size
[11:16] <TannerNCruz>             /dev/hd5 Logical /swap 5000MB(5GB)
[11:16] <FloodBot1> TannerNCruz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <TUI> Hello, WINE crashed my Xwindow while playing (the screen froze without response) so i pressed ctrl+alt+F1 to TTY1 and then back to ctrl+alt+F7. somehow i got back my GUI and restarted my game. however now when i reboot my computer GUI fails to start up and TTY1 show up like a 5 seconds. If i press ctrl+alt+F7 after a start up and find "Starting load fallback graphics devices [fail]"
[11:16] <TannerNCruz> Oops. Sorry about that.
[11:16] <l057c0d3r> if you cant get a static ip  dynodns  worked great for me a few years ago
[11:16] <srhb> dyndns works, I just dislike the hassle of it.
[11:17] <l057c0d3r> srhb, right..
[11:17] <dr_willis> dyndns works well for me. i still have a free account
[11:17] <TannerNCruz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452045/ There we go, a normal paste.
[11:17] <TannerNCruz> Not used to using IRC chat clients yet haha.
[11:17] <liefer> Yeah im a cheap bastard, it has to be free. Dyndns doesnt appear to be free
[11:18] <dr_willis> i think they may still have a free acvount.. if you can find the right links.
[11:18] <skp1> no-ip.com
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> TannerNCruz  what command did you use to get that output?
[11:19] <liefer> I can only find a 14-day trial
[11:19] <srhb> dr_willis: I think you are mistaken.
[11:19] <TannerNCruz> What output?
[11:19] <liefer> skp1: will check it out thanks
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> TannerNCruz  in the pastebin
[11:19] <TannerNCruz> I didn't use any commands, just the ubuntu paster.
[11:19] <l057c0d3r> wait dyndns isnt free anymore.. when did this happen.. my account is still free
[11:19] <s0u][ight> hello, I have my ipod classic connected to my pc, i want to change the permissions of a file on my ipod, but the changes refuse to take effect
[11:19] <srhb> l057c0d3r: They grandfathered all existing free accounts, 4 million of them
[11:19] <TannerNCruz> Oh, no it's my HDD partition schema.
[11:19] <srhb> l057c0d3r: No more new free accounts, however.
[11:19] <dr_willis> srhb: i saw it mentioned at lifehacker. but that was a year ago
[11:20] <l057c0d3r> aww well that sucks
[11:20] <dr_willis> im grandfathered in. ;-)
[11:20] <l057c0d3r> me to i guess
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> TannerNCruz  type sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit and paste the url here
[11:21] <liefer> Hmm apparently i made a dyndns account in 2010, maybe its been grandfathered too
[11:21] <TannerNCruz> This isn't the Linux computer, this is my laptop. I'm just planning the Partitioning for when the computer can be assembled.
[11:21] <srhb> liefer: Probably.
[11:22] <TannerNCruz> Right now I've got an old motherboard conected to my tv with a VGA cable so I can wipe the old hard drive haha.
[11:22] <liefer> Nope, my account was considered inactive has expired
[11:22] <liefer> oh well
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> TannerNCruz  read this first https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[11:23] <l057c0d3r> TannerNCruz, i would make it more simple.....  say 100mb for boot..  20 gb for root..  swap is fine.. and then the rest for root...
[11:23] <l057c0d3r> err the rest for home
[11:23] <l057c0d3r> no need for the usr ext
[11:23] <RomeoAva> Dear friends, I have this error: http://pastebin.com/mseB0Vgk
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> TannerNCruz, unless you plan on running a lamp server  then you will want /var on its own partition
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> hell really dont even need the boot one
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> just 20gb root will be fine for software and boot..
[11:24] <l057c0d3r> and make sure swap is at the end or beginning of the disk.. best to put it at the end of the disk
[11:25] <srhb> Though a tiny boot partition is really nice to have, and at no real cost..
[11:25] <l057c0d3r> true
[11:25] <dr_willis> these days im not sure it matters. but i put swap at the end
[11:25] <TannerNCruz> If you have a /usr can't your /root be a bit smaller?
[11:26] <TannerNCruz> If not significantly smaller?
[11:26] <dr_willis> if you are using swap its such a bit hit on speeds.
[11:26] <srhb> Why would you ever put swap at the end?
[11:27] <dr_willis> i use a big  /boot/ to store iso files on. and setup grub2 to boot then
[11:27] <l057c0d3r> supposedly the drive accesses the beginning and ends faster then the middle its what i've always been told at least
[11:28] <dr_willis> i put a small swap at the end of each hd. or used to.
[11:28] <l057c0d3r> honestly.. the more ram you have.. the less needed a swap becomes.. but its still good for sleep / hibernation.
[11:28] <srhb> Isn't the inner part of the platter the beginning of the drive?
[11:29] <dr_willis> it used to be a common question/thread/argument/flamefest years ago. ;)
[11:29] <srhb> Then again, newer drives probably lie about where the sectors are.
[11:29] <Jordan_U> srhb: l057c0d3r: At this point, almost any assumption about such things is likely to be invalid.
[11:29] <wdp_> l057c0d3r, that's a very general statement and not true in every use-case.
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> partitioning <3   (not)
[11:30] <wdp_> l057c0d3r, we for example have some servers with 32gb ram, and still swap is required and useful.
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> right..  server.....
[11:30] <dr_willis> if you are using swap in daily ussage.. get moar rams.     ;)
[11:30] <Patero-ng> dr_willis is unity bad as in disfunctional
[11:30] <srhb> wdp_: I think the argument is very applicable in general.
[11:30] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  i find unity works well for me. it has a lot of neat features
[11:31] <Patero-ng> but I can't find the administration tool
[11:31] <l057c0d3r> i find unity messes up a lot on me....  but its still nice...
[11:31] <dr_willis> what admin tool?
[11:31] <srhb> If you're not going to hibernate and you don't care if your programs crash if you end up using more memory than you have in RAM, why have swap anyway?
[11:32] <TannerNCruz> How big should a /var partition normally be?
[11:32] <dr_willis> srhb:  years ago i saw articals/benchmarks that showed with no swap partition the kernel would be a little slower.. but no idea if its true any more
[11:32] <TannerNCruz> For a 250G HDD and 8GB ram system?
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> tanner.. depends.. what kind of server are you running....  how much space will be needed for the website / services / features of the said server
[11:32] <srhb> TannerNCruz: some gigabytes if you really need to partition it seperately. Do you?
[11:32] <Jordan_U> TannerNCruz: I would highly recommend having everything except swap in a single / partition. A separate /boot/ partition gains you nothing (unless you have a buggy BIOS), and if you want to start splitting up things more than that (which also for the most part gains you nothing) you'll want to at least use LVM so that you can change sizes more easily later when you find out that your initial assumptions about how big each ...
[11:32] <Jordan_U> ... partition will need to be were wrong.
[11:32] <dr_willis> TannerNCruz:  with that small a hd i wouldent seperate them
[11:33] <srhb> dr_willis: Really, I would like to see that link.
[11:33] <dr_willis> srhb:  this was 5+ yrs ago
[11:33] <srhb> dr_willis: Personally I'm running a SSD so I have other concerns. I don't want to ever write temporary files to it. But that's a different story of course.
[11:34] <dr_willis> i got a 128gb ssd. i just have  a single / partition on it
[11:34] <l057c0d3r> Jordan_U, really.. i like to keep my home seperate..  just because if something goes down.. and i loose access ext.. it just seemed easier to reinstall and still have all my personal files /  settings already there still
[11:34] <wdp_> srhb, would take a bit longer to explain; also it's OT, however, take a look for the various swapiness discussions and check what really happens with your ram. a lot is used for caching; your swap takes stuff which is not used that much, so more is available for caching and your apps which actually require memory. which is why running without swap, regardless of the amount of available ram is generally considered bad.
[11:34] <srhb> dr_willis: I have that and boot, works fine for me. I might end up partitioning /home if something ever fucks up, though.
[11:34] <RomeoAva> Any help please: http://pastebin.com/mseB0Vgk
[11:34] <dr_willis> homes on its own 3TB hd. ;)
[11:35] <Jordan_U> srhb: Theoretically, having swap can allow the kernel to swap out very infrequently unused (but non-cache, and thus needing to be preserved) pages to make more room for cache. More room for cache means more speed for the things you're actually doing.
[11:35] <dr_willis> its  easy to move home.
[11:35] <TUI> Hello, during start up i get "Starting load fallback graphics devices [fail]" and TTY1 login screen shows up for 5 seconds
[11:35] <wdp_> srhb, hence all i said is: that argument is not applicable everywhere. there are a few more factors to think of.
[11:35] <dr_willis> or have some users on the ssd and others on a different hd
[11:35] <TUI> so my GUI fails to start
[11:35] <srhb> wdp_: As I understand it, as long as you have free memory (besides cache) there's zero need for swap.
[11:35] <domie> does anyone have a clue about these artifacts?  http://imagebin.org/240062
[11:35] <Jordan_U> l057c0d3r: Ubuntu's installer has an option to re-install preserving /home/, even when it's not on a separate partition.
[11:36] <srhb> wdp_: I think we're splitting hairs over the word "generally" - nevermind. :-)
[11:36] <wdp_> probably. i'm not a native english speaker, so i might mess up words :)
[11:36] <l057c0d3r> right.. well its getting early...  i need to sleep for work...  has been fun :-)
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> Jordan_U, i did not know that.. that is good to know..  i've only ran ubuntu a few times.. have lubuntu on my lappy as a dual boot system.. and gentoo on my main desktop
[11:37] <TUI> can i somehow change TTY1 as a default during start up from grub?
[11:38] <dr_willis> !text | tui
[11:38] <Jordan_U> srhb: Having swap also means that you have more time between an app misbehaving and eating RAM and the OOM killer kicking in.
[11:39] <domie> is there any alternative to unity with unified title bar + menu ?
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> domie  unity is a completely new concept
[11:41] <Patero-ng> that hides all my tools
[11:41] <Jordan_U> domie: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/ though from that page it looks like getting support for GNOME3 might take some work as it's still in-development.
[11:41] <dr_willis> there may be some global menu thing for gnome-shell
[11:42] <agsel> if I have file which belongs to group X. I have a user U which belongs to group X. I want to remove the file with user U, but cannot do that. the folder where the file is, does not have sticky bit. how can I make the file deletable?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> TUI  gdm has the option to login in the terminal, you can install it on top of lightdm
[11:42] <agsel> rather, file is owned by group X
[11:42] <Patero-ng> who are they
[11:43] <TUI> MonkeyDust: the problem is that gdm fails to start
[11:44] <MTW> hey guys
[11:44] <MTW> anyone around?
[11:44] <MTW> got a ubuntu question
[11:44] <n00bz> hello
[11:44] <MTW> ok, so I ran ubunt for the first time
[11:44] <MTW> and it looks weird as hell
[11:45] <MTW> big sidebar and no way to either put it at the bottom or go back to the old way i see whe i google image search ubuntu
[11:45] <MTW> so my question is, how do I go to the classical interface?
[11:45] <Jordan_U> agsel: What are the permissions of the file and the directory containing it?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> MTW  we all had to get used to it, it's called 'learning'
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> mtw..  the gnome interface...
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> ?
[11:45] <MTW> i am not interested in learning it, I feel it is fundamentally bad
[11:45] <MTW> it doesn't work the way I work
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> MTW  install 'fallback'
[11:45] <MTW> fallback? what repo is that in?
[11:45] <n00bz> i'm running ubuntu for the second time, where should i learn about terminal commands?
[11:46] <agsel> Jordan_U: dir has drwxrwx---, file has -rwxrwx---
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> !classic | MTW
[11:46] <l057c0d3r> n00bz, http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[11:46] <MTW> i'm on 12.10
[11:46] <MTW> so that doesn't apply to me
[11:46] <MTW> let me paste what someone else said about unity, which sums up why i can't use it
[11:47] <MTW> −
[11:47] <MTW> My computer has two 30" screens.  That makes the desktop 5120x1600 pixels.  Unity forces the launch menu and the application menus to be at the far top left regardless of where the application's window is on my substantial desktop.  That is way too much mouse scrolling for me.
[11:47] <n00bz> thanks l057c0d3r, i've to do some, and i'm lost  :P
[11:47] <MTW> unity is like osx, if osx was terrible. so what repo is fallback in again?
[11:48] <dr_willis> you can have unity show the panelsa on both monitors
[11:48] <Patero-ng> MTW wow that big monitor you must pretty rich
[11:48] <MTW> i don't want that
[11:48] <MTW> i want quality
[11:48] <MTW> i want what fucking works, not what is new
[11:48] <MTW> and unity doesn't work
[11:48] <MTW> and it isn't well designed
[11:48] <FloodBot1> MTW: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> mtw.. lxde
[11:48] <dr_willis> enought ranting please...
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> MTW  try sudo apt-get install gnome-sesiion-falback to get Classic Ubuntu
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> lubuntu
[11:48] <MTW> lxde?
[11:48] <l1nx_c> MTW install the gnome-shell
[11:48] <MTW> thank you, monkeydust
[11:48] <MTW> does that install gnome2 or gnome3?
[11:49] <l1nx_c> gnome 3
[11:49] <dr_willis> gnome2 is basically dead.
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> MTW  it's gnome3, but looks very much like gnome2
[11:49] <Sven_vB> i'm trying to install a network printer. system-config-printer has detected it using Bonjour and now requires me to give a username and password. in the printer, i cannot find any options to make the printer itself require a login. (which matches the behaviour that windows clients never needed login information.) several default logins (including both fiields blank) didn't work. what could i try next?
[11:49] <Tm_T> MTW: please try keep language clean
[11:49] <MTW> haven't played with gnome3, but i hear lots of complaints
[11:49] <dr_willis> people complain about everything
[11:49] <TomyLobo> does "apt-file search" only look for amd64 packages?
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> MTW  that's normal with something new
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> yeah but unity does kind of blow..
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> sorry
[11:50] <sfsdfsdf> If only i had Google Glasses that ran ubuntu 40.99
[11:50] <MTW> not really, monkeydust. things that are both new and are plainly better don't have that issue
[11:50] <dr_willis> i have very few issues with unity
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> MTW  so now you now what to do
[11:50] <TomyLobo> "$ apt-file search libGL.so | grep dev | pastebinit" leads to http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452097/
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> know*
[11:50] <MTW> i do
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> but then again unity and windows 8 have something in common
[11:50] <MTW> and i will boot my ubuntu vm again and type that in
[11:50] <MTW> both are unusable trash?
[11:50] <TomyLobo> there should definitely be 32 bit libs in there
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> MTW  and no ranting here, please
[11:51] <MTW> monkeydust, no telling me what to do here, please
[11:51] <Patero-ng> you must be 40
[11:51] <sfsdfsdf> ^ Open source community :P
[11:52] <TomyLobo> related question: why do the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of libgl1-mesa-dev conflict with one another?
[11:52] <sfsdfsdf> Because one is stronger then the other?
[11:52] <MTW> aaah fallback, thanks MonkeyDust.
[11:52] <MTW> now why is that not installed by default?
[11:52] <dr_willis> TomyLobo:  different statically compiled .a libs perhaps?
[11:52] <TomyLobo> now i can only either run steam or the 64 bit build of cogs
[11:53] <dr_willis> MTW:  its scheduled to be removed in a future release
[11:53] <l1nx_c> because they want everyone to use unity
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> MTW  to keep the iso small enough, some packages are left out of it
[11:53] <TomyLobo> dr_willis obviously, yes. they're for different architectures
[11:53] <MTW> dr_willis: WHY?
[11:53] <dr_willis> MTW:  why not..
[11:53] <MTW> MonkeyDust: i consider this a vital package, so does anyone else who cares about productivity
[11:53] <Jordan_U> MTW: l057c0d3r: MonkeyDust: Anyone else: This channel is for technical support, not discussion of your opinions on software. Please take offtopic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:53] <dr_willis> no one wants to waste manpower maintaining it.
[11:54] <MTW> waste? making ubuntu usable is a waste?
[11:54] <dr_willis> it was schedules to be removed in the next relaeas but i hear its been extended
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> MTW  ok, message received, you don't like it
[11:54] <dr_willis> from what i hear the fallback mode is lacking in useability
[11:54] <MTW> i am looking for a solution, I am being completely reasonable
[11:54] <MTW> i like ubuntu, i like using the most popular distro, I don't like unity
[11:54] <MTW> i was hoping for a solution
[11:55] <dr_willis> MTW:  you want old skool desktop try lubuntu or xfce
[11:55] <MTW> are both of those maintained?
[11:55] <Jordan_U> MTW: I would recommend XFCE for a GNOME2 like experience that is actively maintained and supported.
[11:55] <srhb> MTW: You really aren't. Stay on the ball and stop insulting whatever software package you don't like and in turn every user of it. Keep your questions to what specifically is bugging you in the form "I would like to have my GUI do X, how do I do so?"
[11:55] <Jordan_U> MTW: Yes.
[11:55] <Sven_vB> ok solved... seems the printer had a firmware update in the meantime.
[11:55] <MTW> gnome2 is supported?
[11:55] <dr_willis> gnome2 is basically dead.
[11:56] <MTW> yeah, that is why i was confused when he said gnome2 is supported
[11:56] <dr_willis> its still in 10.04
[11:56] <dr_willis> so will be around for a little while. butt the gnome devs have stopped working on it
[11:56] <Jordan_U> MTW: I said that XFCE provides a GNOME2 like experience, and that XFCE is maintained and supported.
[11:56] <MTW> xfce doesn't look bad!
[11:56] <MTW> seems like that'll do!
[11:56] <MTW> not a big fan of the file manager
[11:57] <TomyLobo> yes, it doesnt look bad, so it can't be gnome2-like
[11:57] <dr_willis> looks are often the least imporntant part
[11:57] <Jordan_U> MTW: You can use nautilus with XFCE.
[11:57] <MTW> oh, sweet
[11:57] <srhb> Doesn't naitulus work in XFCE too?
[11:57] <srhb> Ahh, too slow.
[11:57] <sfsdfsdf> MTW seems to me all you do is complain,
[11:57] <Patero-ng> I use 10.04 still
[11:57] <sfsdfsdf> What exactly do you need help with ?
[11:57] <domie> or marlin as a file manager, which is pure awesome, but very buggy
[11:58] <sfsdfsdf> k
[11:58] <MTW> i like the search for apps part of unity, but it being on the sidebar and also not liking dual monitors/high res is the issue. i am not here to complain, more to get a resolution. don't hate!
[11:58] <MTW> i don't like going back to the old way of doings things, but there is no alternative, you know?
[11:58] <l1nx_c> old way is the best way
[11:59] <TomyLobo> MTW kde4 has an app search too
[11:59] <sfsdfsdf> Im still using rocks to do my math
[11:59] <MTW> i've always thought kde was a childs toy, no offense
[11:59] <Patero-ng> kde smells like windows 98
[11:59] <sfsdfsdf> How exactly do you say UBUNTU like ubuntOO or UUU ?
[12:00] <MTW> Patero-ng: nailed it
[12:00] <TomyLobo> i've always thought of kde as the thing that works and doesnt give me the creeps
[12:00] <MTW> and gnome3 seems like what a blind person would think osx looks like if you described it to them
[12:00] <TomyLobo> you know, the same creeps i get when operating a mac
[12:00] <Jordan_U> sfsdfsdf: Here is Nelson Mandela pronouncing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQ4WiDsEBQ
[12:01] <sfsdfsdf> ok thanks jordan
[12:01] <Jordan_U> MTW: Please, stop with the offtopic commentary and stick to support. You've been asked enough times to do so already.
[12:01] <Jordan_U> sfsdfsdf: You're welcome.
[12:01] <l1nx_c> MTW dont use it if you hate it
[12:01] <MTW> ok, i'll go to offchat, christ
[12:02] <agsel> anyone? I have a file and I belong to the right group, but I cannot delete the file (I can create files)
[12:02] <MTW> is XUbuntu actively suported? last qusetion.
[12:02] <Jordan_U> MTW: Yes.
[12:02] <MTW> thanks
[12:02] <Jordan_U> MTW: You're welcome.
[12:03] <joe__> did anyone have issues with the flash player sound after the most recent kernel upgrade
[12:03] <MTW> flash is a turd, so yes
[12:03] <TomyLobo> Jordan_U hey, he pronounces it like i do :)
[12:03] <l1nx_c> agsel tried sudo ?
[12:03] <joe__> MTW: indeed, though, it was working previous to the upgrade a few days ago
[12:03] <joe__> do you know if there is a fix for it?
[12:03] <agsel> l1nx_c: sudo works, but I need files to be deletable by the user itself
[12:04] <Jordan_U> agsel: What happens if you run "touch /path/to/directory/test_file && rm /path/to/directory/test_file"?
[12:04] <agsel> Jordan_U: it removes it
[12:04] <killer> how do i get apng support in precise
[12:05] <killer> it says  system's libpng doesn't have APNG support
[12:05] <Jordan_U> agsel: So I think you're mistaking the situation somewhere. If you can create a file as a user in a given directory, you should be able to delete that file as that same user.
[12:07] <Jordan_U> agsel: Sorry, forgot about the fact that you're asking about the group rather than the owner.
[12:07] <flash_> Hi guys. I'm having some trouble running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. When I do so, everything seems to install fine except for a particular package: java 7u10. The error I'm getting is: mv: cannot move `jdk1.7.0_10' to `java-7-oracle/jdk1.7.0_10': Directory not empty
[12:07] <agsel> Jordan_U: group yes
[12:07] <agsel> Jordan_U: here's the output:
[12:07] <agsel> ago@ago-VirtualBox:/media/sf_share$ touch .svn/test.txt
[12:07] <agsel> ago@ago-VirtualBox:/media/sf_share$ rm .svn/test.txt
[12:07] <agsel> ago@ago-VirtualBox:/media/sf_share$ rm .svn/entries
[12:07] <agsel> rm: cannot remove `.svn/entries': Operation not permitted
[12:07] <FloodBot1> agsel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <agsel> sorry :)
[12:08] <flash_> I have backed up this directory under another name, but another instance of it is created and the error persists. Any ideas?
[12:08] <TomyLobo> how do i list the contents of a package i dont have installed?
[12:08] <agsel> Jordan_U: ls -la gives me: -rwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf  155 Dec 20 09:12 entries
[12:09] <agsel> Jordan_U: -rwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf    0 Dec 20 14:08 test.txt (that file I can delete)
[12:09] <TomyLobo> nm, found it: apt-file list package
[12:09] <agsel> the only difference is size
[12:09] <agsel> can it be that the file is in use?
[12:10] <Jordan_U> agsel: No. *NIX doesn't care about you unlinking a file that's in use.
[12:11] <TheHustle> Hi, I'm at the command line in ubuntu, could someone tell me please how to make a .cue file from a cd, please, thank you
[12:11] <TomyLobo> http://pastebin.com/42Dr63JT Why on earth are these 2 packages marked as conflicting?
[12:11] <zgr> hello I can't access launchpad.net, only via proxy. How to fix that?
[12:11] <agsel> Jordan_U: actually, sudo rm is also not permitted
[12:11] <TheHustle> zgr: that sounds like an issue with you ISP
[12:11] <Jordan_U> agsel: That's expected, because you're probably dealing with an attribute rather than a standard *NIX permission.
[12:11] <TomyLobo> the only files they share are some text files that are likely identical between them
[12:11] <Jordan_U> agsel: lsattr entries
[12:12] <agsel> Jordan_U: lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on .svn/entries
[12:12] <zgr> TheHustle: yes, but could it be that their ip range got banned for some reason? though ubuntu.com is loading ok
[12:13] <Jordan_U> agsel: What filesystem is .svn/entries on?
[12:13] <agsel> Jordan_U: virtualbox shared folder
[12:13] <agsel> I guess physically it's NTFS
[12:13] <TheHustle> zgr: yes
[12:13] <BlackDalek> does anyone here know how to get bluegriffon to show up in the "other applications" list for opening files of a particular filetype?
[12:14] <TheHustle> zgr: when it happens with my ISP I usually have to wait a day then all is fine
[12:14] <Jordan_U> agsel: Then it follows whatever odd semantics a virtualbox shared folder has, in addition to whatever odd semantics are on the guest OS, in addtion to whatever odd semantics are in the NTFS filesystem.
[12:15] <BlackDalek> I want to be able to right-click on a htm file and open it in bluegriffon... how do I do this?
[12:16] <TUI> is it possible to use recovery mode non-read-only?
[12:17] <MTW> is there anything I should know when picking hardware for linux usage? any recommened mobos, bluetooth adapters, etc?
[12:18] <bhavesh> er I get default wallpaper when I do  gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri'file:///home/mac3.jpg' even though I have mac3.jpg in my home folder :9
[12:18] <bhavesh> er not that
[12:18] <Jordan_U> TUI: Yes. I believe that it's an option in the menu that comes up, and if not you can always manually "mount -o remount,rw /". That is assuming that it's not read-only because of filesystem errors, in which case you need to fsck first.
[12:18] <srhb> MTW: I find it easiest finding the stuff I want and then determining compatibility via Google.
[12:18] <bhavesh> this: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///home/mac3.jpg
[12:18] <Jordan_U> !hcl | MTW
[12:19] <bhavesh> when I enter that in command line, I get default wallpaper, which normally would come when it fails to find that particular file. But I have mac3.jpg in my /home
[12:20] <TUI> Jordan_U: "the menu that comes up" is grub, right? i try that mount -o remount, rw. thanks
[12:20] <MTW> thanks!
[12:21] <bhavesh> oh my mistake, I thought my home folder was the one with my username
[12:21] <Jordan_U> TUI: No. Selecting the recovery mode entry at the grub menu should bring you to a recovery menu with different options.
[12:22] <ModNStuff> Does anyone know how i can change the Ubuntu Loading screen when turning on back to the old version where it just showed a terminal of it loading?
[12:22] <Patero-ng> anybody knows if ubuntu protects me against mitm attacks
[12:23] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff: Remove the "splash" kernel parameter (by editing /etc/default/grub, then running "sudo update-grub").
[12:23] <valler> ssl protects against this
[12:24] <ModNStuff>  So in other words, i would gedit /etc/default/grub ..?
[12:24] <Patero-ng> does ubuntu protects me against impersonators with stolen CA private keys
[12:24] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[12:24] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: If the keys haven't been revoked, no. Because that's impossible to protect against.
[12:25] <ModNStuff> jordan what exactly am i looking for in the file? splash?
[12:25] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff: Yes.
[12:26] <ModNStuff> Got the file open do not see anything relating to splash,
[12:26] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff: Please pastebin the contents of the file.
[12:26] <Patero-ng> I heard many of the CA private keys have been stolen according to a guy on #networking named pppingme
[12:27] <valler> grep splash /etc/default/grub
[12:27] <ModNStuff> http://pastebin.com/RBBCbvnz
[12:27] <Patero-ng> shouldn't the CA authorities be warned and the browsers update their database I heard rumors that chrome doesn't care
[12:27] <valler> line 11
[12:28] <ModNStuff> i see quiet splash
[12:28] <ModNStuff> ?
[12:28] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff: On line 11 change   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"  to    "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
[12:28] <TomyLobo> rumors arent facts and revoking most of the CA keys on rumors equals breaking the internet
[12:28] <ModNStuff> Alright then run sudo update-grub
[12:28] <Patero-ng> I hear rumors is true
[12:29] <ModNStuff> Alright ill go see if it worked brb
[12:29] <Patero-ng> I read it on the daily planet
[12:29] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: Rumors of offtopic on this channel, true or false. There is a framework in place for revoking keys, if will be used if it needs to be.
[12:30] <Jordan_U> s/if/it/
[12:30] <Patero-ng> I also heard CA servers don't care
[12:30] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: This is the wrong channel for such discussion. Last warning.
[12:30] <TomyLobo> the daily planet? dude, that's from superman
[12:31] <MTW> !ops
[12:31] <Jordan_U> MTW: Yes?
[12:32] <MTW> ban Patero-ng
[12:32] <TomyLobo> i think he was calling you for yourself :P
[12:32] <MTW> for sucking at trolling
[12:32] <Tm_T> MTW: TomyLobo: behave please
[12:32] <Patero-ng> I say the truth I heard it on #networking
[12:32] <TomyLobo> Tm_T what
[12:33]  * dr_willis waits for an actual support question
[12:34] <TomyLobo> here's one: http://pastebin.com/42Dr63JT these 2 packages are marked as conflicting. why?
[12:34] <TomyLobo> i need both
[12:34] <MTW> is the crash-on-login vmware fusion 5.0.2 issue a ubuntu one, an Apple one, or a Vmware one?
[12:34] <andrea_> I was wondering if anybody can help me with a problem I'm having to get my HP Truevision HD webcam to work on Ubuntu 12.10. This used to work in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and it also works with Linux Mint 14. The output of lsusb seems to show that the camera is indeed detected. But cheese gives a black image. If I try something like: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0 -nosound   I get a green image
[12:34] <MTW> turning off 3d accel fixes it
[12:34] <ModNStuff_> Alright it worked :)
[12:35] <TomyLobo> MTW for the record: what's the guest and what's the host os?
[12:35] <Jordan_U> TomyLobo: Both contain a file /usr/share/bug/libgl1-mesa-dev/control.
[12:35] <MTW> guest: 10.8.3
[12:35] <MTW> err
[12:35] <MTW> guest: 12.10 ubuntu stock
[12:35] <MTW> host: 10.8.3
[12:36] <MTW> also happens in 10.8.2
[12:36] <TomyLobo> Jordan_U yeah, but says "bug", so i assume it's just for bug reporting. why would that be a reason to mark them as conflicting?
[12:37] <TomyLobo> it even looks like they're absolutely identical
[12:37] <TomyLobo> same with the "script" in the same folder
[12:39] <ModNStuff_> In the Grub file what is "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10" ?
[12:39] <Jordan_U> TomyLobo: Packages which contain conflicting files probably are made to conflict with one another through some automated process. The packages probably need to be simply fixed.
[12:39] <ModNStuff_> What does this mean/do
[12:39] <TomyLobo> Jordan_U is that likely to happen or would i have to update to quantal?
[12:39] <TomyLobo> (or beyond)
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> ModNStuff_  if you don't hit a key, grub loads the default after 10 seconds
[12:40] <Jordan_U> TomyLobo: I don't know, try filing a bug report.
[12:40] <ModNStuff_> but thats not true though, cause on my grub there is no time limit i remember changing it if not removing it
[12:40] <TomyLobo> the problem is: there's this piece of software called "steam", which only comes as a 32 bit package and which requires libGL.so
[12:41] <ModNStuff_> So is that the time limit after i click on the os for it to load up to terminal?
[12:41] <Abhijit> ModNStuff_, after changin grub settings you have to run update-grub
[12:41] <ModNStuff_> Abh I know this, i havnt changed anything yet, just was wondering what that means
[12:42] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff_: That's because Ubuntu's grub overrides that setting if it's detected that you only have one OS (Ubuntu) and hides the menu. To see the menu hold shift during boot.
[12:42] <ModNStuff_> Jordan i have windows 7 also, 2 os
[12:42] <Jordan_U> ModNStuff_: os-prober didn't detect Windows then.
[12:43] <ModNStuff_> GRUB actually doesnt have time limit, i remember changing that cause i like the image in the background :P. So i was just wonderng what that option was,
[12:44] <killer> how do i add apng patch in libpng precise
[12:45] <TomyLobo> solved it: ln -s /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 ~/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/libGL.so.1
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !yay | TomyLobo
[12:48] <whitman> Anyone know of a PPA that provides the oci_ php functions? Before I go an compile it.
[12:48] <ModNStuff_> If im wanting to run terminal upon startup, under start up programs settings, the option Command. What would i put there?
[12:48] <andrea_> I was wondering if anybody can help me with a problem I'm having to get my HP Truevision HD webcam to work on Ubuntu 12.10. This used to work in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and it also works with Linux Mint 14. The output of lsusb seems to show that the camera is indeed detected. But cheese gives a black image. If I try something like: mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0 -nosound   I get a green image
[12:49] <whitman> ModNStuff_, gnome-terminal
[12:49] <vibhav> Is is any way I can map my right alt key to the spacebar?
[12:50] <ModNStuff_> Andrea i have the exact same webcam, if not laptop? But myn works so i can not help
[12:50] <killer> how do i add apng patch in libpng precise
[12:50] <TomyLobo> spacebar enlargement now! see your inbox for how!
[12:50] <ModNStuff_> thanks whitman,
[12:50] <AndroUser> .....
[12:51] <vibhav> TomyLobo: Was that for me?
[12:51] <TomyLobo> vibhav there most likely is a way. i don't know it but i'd assume googling for "linux remap keyboard" might give you some results
[12:51] <andrea_> ModNStuff_, yes its a Pavilion dm1 laptop....thanks anyway
[12:52] <circle> my colours are stuffed in every player but one
[12:52] <circle> the only one that has colours correct is mplayer
[12:52] <circle> and it has no sound
[12:52] <circle> I want to listen/watch some media files, haha
[12:54] <mazda01> i installed steam beta and steam skin manager but now want to remove the skin manager, how do i do that?
[12:55] <mazda01> also, chrome or chromium both segfault the whole machine and i presented with the greeter login. it seemed to start happening after I installed steam
[12:56] <dr_willis> test with a newly made user? Tried removeing steam?
[12:58] <mazda01> didn't try removing steam because I want it for serious sam 3 bfe I purhcased
[12:59] <ModNStuff_> Media or steam ?
[12:59] <srhb> mazda01: You can always install it again, but this way you can try to figure out if it has anything to do with your crashes (probably not)
[12:59] <mazda01> also, steam says I need flash player installed. i followed its instructions but still no demo's show. it still says I need flash player installed
[13:00] <mazda01> srhb, how do i remove them, they are both .debs. i tried to remove the steam-skin-manager with dpkg -r steam-skin-manager to no avail
[13:01] <dr_willis> you use apt-get
[13:01] <Patero-ng> I heard mandrake was the first gui linux available is this true why is ubuntu more known now
[13:01] <dr_willis> or synaptic, or software center
[13:01] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  there was distros out befor mandrake
[13:01] <dr_willis> Patero-ng:  so thats a false statement
[13:01] <Patero-ng> I heard it on the scrensavers
[13:02] <mazda01> dr_willis, what's the command for removing?
[13:02] <dr_willis> apt-get remove packagename
[13:02] <dr_willis> or use the gui tools
[13:04] <mazda01> sudo apt-get remove --purge steam steam-skin-manager did the trick
[13:05] <dr_willis> purge wont remove user settings or files in their home
[13:05] <ModNStuff_> anyone know a tweak or package for a animated background lol?
[13:06] <dr_willis> !info xearth
[13:06] <dr_willis> hmm.. used to be xearth. :)  gives an animated globe
[13:06] <mazda01> i wonder if it's because I am running 64bit and a bunch of :i386 packages are being installed with steam
[13:06] <circle> can someone help? totem and any other player but mplayer have their hue off
[13:06] <circle> normal hue is all blue
[13:08] <dr_willis> circle:  what video card/drivers?
[13:08] <metaphysician> I am using 12.04. I want to install 12.10 afresh, and I want all my current configs and customizations to be applied to 12.10. How can I do it with less efforts?
[13:08] <circle> dr_willis: the hue is fine in mplayer, it's not the card
[13:08] <circle> dr_willis: when I run gstreamer-properties it segfaults
[13:09] <dtcrshr> metaphysician: well, first of all move all your desktop data to your documents folder
[13:09] <dr_willis> it could be vpadu or other things.
[13:09] <dtcrshr> I had an update issue that ubuntu purged all my desktop files
[13:09] <dr_willis> or other driver quirks
[13:09] <tboat> is the server channel ubuntuserver or ubuntu-server?
[13:09] <circle> dr_willis: what do you suggest I do
[13:09] <dtcrshr> besides this metaphysician if you simply dist update it will have your configs mantained
[13:10] <dr_willis> well a page/pastebin with full system details and specs and what players have the issues and what ones dont  would be a good idea
[13:10] <cba123> I have a RAID5 I made with mdadm.  For some reason, it won't add a spare.  When I do mdadm -D on the array, it says clean FAILED, but I can mount it.  I have 5 working devices, and 4 active (out of 6).  One says faulty spare the other says spare.  How can I get the spare to be in active sync without losing my data?
[13:10] <dr_willis> weird that gstrreamer is sebfaulting also
[13:10] <circle> dr_willis: easy enough to just tell you here. Totem and VLC have the problem. Mplayer doesn't. I have an 8600GT.
[13:11] <metaphysician> dtcrshr: will it work? i've heard about lots of failed dist upgrade attempts..
[13:11] <mazda01> dr_willis, nope, it still segfaulted without steam installed.
[13:11] <zhangyuqing> hi
[13:12] <mazda01> dr_willis, when I try to open chromium it crashes X server and it shows this. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uCI9RPLJouI/UNMN7GdvjoI/AAAAAAAAAx4/wZ6oj_9jcew/s720/IMAGE_7A986D66-212C-42E6-96A7-56A7F0E78695.JPG
[13:13] <tboat> hey so nobody seems to be alive over at ubuntu-server, anyone here able to help me out?
[13:13] <Guest91234> what/
[13:13] <Guest91234> Where am I?
[13:13] <tboat> ubuntu server 12.04, recent kernel update broke samba, get the following error: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba4.postinst: 14: /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba4.postinst: /usr/share/samba/setoption.pl: Permission denied
[13:13] <tboat> dpkg: error processing samba4 (--configure):
[13:13] <tboat>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 126
[13:13] <tboat> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:13] <tboat>  samba4
[13:13] <FloodBot1> tboat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <tboat> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:13] <ModNStuff_> you are in ubuntu universe
[13:13] <Guest91234> What is this place?
[13:13] <tboat> sorry about that
[13:14] <tboat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452244/
[13:14] <Guest91234> Oooh... Colors!
[13:14] <circle> dr_willis:
[13:14] <dr_willis> mazda01:  thats just showing the console/boot messages..  no error messages. check the xorg logs perhaps
[13:14] <mazda01> dr_willis, and ther'es nothing in Xorg.0.log, .xsession-errors kern.log or anywhere about the segfault
[13:14] <Guest91234> Look at the colors!
[13:14] <n00bz> if i just lurk here a while, will someone else eventually ask the same questions i might?
[13:14] <mazda01> dr_willis, yes, but that's on tty7, which is where the X server "was"
[13:14] <zhangyuqing> hehe
[13:15] <dtcrshr> metaphysician: cant grant that. mostly updates iv done went rogue, Id rather backup my files and do a full install as windowze alikes
[13:15] <Guest91234> Anyone here experiencing where flash eventually crashes when viewing youtube videos at fullscreen on firefox?
[13:15] <mazda01> dr_willis, i don't know what's going on. i was running chromium since I installed 12.04 a while ago, then I installed some games from humble bundle 7 and steam and now chromium and chrome both cause X crashes
[13:15] <ModNStuff_> Noob lurk and learn, lol. I have learn alot by just reading questions and answers to them in here
[13:16] <computer> hi
[13:16] <ModNStuff_> even about stuff id never do lol,
[13:16] <Guest91234> how do I change my username in xchat?
[13:16] <tboat> at least people chat here, the server channel is 371 silent creeps
[13:16] <computer> unity amazonnn
[13:16] <n00bz> that's the plan ModNStuff_ ATM i've too many questions to know where to start :P
[13:16] <mazda01> dr_willis, i have to go to work. are you aware if chromium and chrome are suppose to work in 64bit xubuntu?
[13:17] <Guest91234> We need some techno music to keep this channel alive!!!!
[13:17] <mazda01> thanks for your help anyway. ttyl
[13:17] <circle> dr_willis:
[13:17] <computer> amazonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[13:17] <dr_willis> mazda01:  they work fine on my 64bit systems
[13:17] <Touhou11> mazda01: I wouldn't use Chrome, it's part of a botnet and isn't an open source browser
[13:17] <computer> who like ubunut 12.10
[13:17] <Guest91234> me
[13:18] <domie> Touhou11, but chromium is open source no?
[13:18] <ModNStuff_> Its 7am no sleep. Techno would do good,
[13:18] <RollinV2> chrome has been crashing with flash on win8 for me, so it might not be an isolated ubuntu issue
[13:18] <Touhou11> domie: Sort of
[13:18] <ModNStuff_> im running 12.10
[13:18] <andrea_> i love ubuntu 12.10....my only issue is my webcam, which works perfectly under mint 14
[13:18] <Guest91234> Im starting to get adapted to unity though I still hate it.
[13:18] <ModNStuff_> I hate it also
[13:18] <Touhou11> Guest91234: If you hate it just use Kubuntu or Xubuntu...
[13:18] <RollinV2> xubuntu
[13:19] <andrea_> i actually prefer unity to cinnamon/gnome3
[13:19] <dr_willis> lubuntu ;)  jwm+rox-filer
[13:19] <Vegetablesalad> Hello. I'm sure this is simple, but I can't find how to do it. I removed clock from my sys tray (12.04LTS Unity) and now have no idea how to get it back : /
[13:19] <RollinV2> or use elementary (the beta is currently stable enough for daily use)
[13:19] <computer> hate amazon and drivers
[13:19] <vmouse> there is more problems than debian
[13:19] <computer> elementary is nice but imho not good coz apps
[13:19] <vmouse> ubuntu is unstable
[13:19] <computer> I uninstall elementary apps and install firefox, this kill elementary integration
[13:19]  * dr_willis waits for actual support questions
[13:20] <vmouse> chrome is better than firefox
[13:20] <andrea_> dr_willis, can you help me with a webcam problem?
[13:20] <Guest91234> ubuntu is pretty much stable for me.
[13:20] <vmouse> oh
[13:20] <Guest91234> firefox is better than chrome.
[13:20] <vmouse> haha
[13:20] <ModNStuff_> Dr_willis when will there be actuall questions in ubuntu support channel?\
[13:20] <Vegetablesalad> thats crazy talk
[13:20] <computer> FF win vs chrome vs midori lol
[13:20] <domie> Vegetablesalad, afaik, the package indicator-datetime should be the one displalying the clock
[13:20] <dr_willis> andrea_:  from what ive experienced - either they work. or are unsupported. a newer kernel may add more supported cams
[13:21] <n00bz> dr_willis, i need help, to do this. http://tinyurl.com/cr9eoda :P
[13:21] <computer> this is support channel ?
[13:21] <circle> dr_willis:
[13:21] <ModNStuff_> Official support channel
[13:21] <andrea_> dr_willis, the same cam works when i use it in Mint 14
[13:21] <Guest91234> someone tell me how to change my name in xchat. PLEASE! :(
[13:21] <ModNStuff_> Atleast it says
[13:21] <dr_willis> computer:  yes. do you have a support question
[13:21] <Vegetablesalad> domie: so when I removed clock from tray, it removed the package ? :o
[13:21] <andrea_> i also upgraded to kernel 3.7.1....still no luck
[13:21] <dr_willis> andrea_:  check kernel versions and what modules it uses in 14
[13:21] <RollinV2> ubuntu like osx/windows, you can change the defaults as you wish. don't like it remove or replace the apps
[13:21] <DJones> Guest91234: I think all you need to do is type "/nick newnickname"
[13:22] <philinux> Guest91234: /nick inputsillynamehere
[13:22] <vmouse> but can you give me some advices for kde pdf viewer? thankss
[13:22] <DonoPatay> Ah there!
[13:22] <andrea_> dr_willis, mint 14 is based on the same kernel as ubuntu 12.10 no?
[13:22] <DonoPatay> Thnx man. very much appreciated.
[13:22] <ModNStuff_> what is the latest kernal for ubuntu?
[13:22] <dr_willis> Guest90418:  xchat used to have a nice beginners guide in its help menu
[13:22] <ModNStuff_> i have 3.2.35
[13:22] <dr_willis> andrea_:  no idea
[13:22] <domie> Vegetablesalad, if you still have it installed, go to System Settings -> Time & Date -> Clock
[13:22] <DonoPatay> 3.2.35
[13:23] <ModNStuff_> ok then im good :P
[13:23] <philinux> ModNStuff_: 3.5.0.21 in 12.10
[13:23] <vmouse> which pdf viewer shuould i use in kde?
[13:23] <DonoPatay> Anyone here experiencing where flash eventually crashes when viewing youtube videos at fullscreen on firefox? weird because this only happens in firefox but not on other browsers
[13:23] <philinux> ModNStuff_: what version ubuntu you got
[13:23] <andrea_> dr_willis, this same cam also worked in 12.04 LTS.....really weird
[13:23] <gustav__> Hello everyone! I NEED something! I can't install Steam Beta and it says I need something but it's installed. Where do I download Steam .deb:s?
[13:24] <DJones> !steam | gustav__
[13:24] <Vegetablesalad> domie: thanks, I feel dumb not thinking of that myself. I was just clicking all around panel hoping for gnome like settings
[13:24] <skp1> hi i am using ubuntu 12.10 and i installed emerald, but now i want the default window decorator back. how do i do that?
[13:24] <ModNStuff_> Lol im not even sure
[13:25] <computer> steam not good with ati
[13:25] <philinux> ModNStuff_: open system monitor and look at the first tab
[13:25] <computer> I can't install new drivers from ati site, sombedy did succedd plz ?
[13:25] <dr_willis> skp1:  used to be somthing like  gtk-decorator --replace
[13:26] <dr_willis> skp1:  there used to be a setting for it in the ccsm tool also. i recall some indicator applete to let you change it also
[13:26] <skp1> dr_willis, command not found
[13:26] <DonoPatay> anyone has a fix for the gwibber bug on the facebook account authentication?
[13:26] <ModNStuff_> :0 i guess i dont have 12.10 i have 12.04 LTS
[13:26] <dr_willis> use tab sompleton to spell it right
[13:26] <ModNStuff_> 12.4.1LTS
[13:26] <ModNStuff_> 3.2.0-35-
[13:27] <philinux> skp1: try this but not the ppa method http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[13:27] <philinux> ModNStuff_: that explains that then
[13:28] <ModNStuff_> should i update to 12.10?
[13:28] <philinux> ModNStuff_: not at all if all is well
[13:28] <computer> yes
[13:28] <ModNStuff_> If and when, how does updating go? Do i lose my modifications ive made to this ?
[13:28] <computer> no
[13:29] <computer> what u problme
[13:29] <philinux> ModNStuff_: LTS is fine newer kernels have extra hardware support do if your system is fine leave it
[13:29] <computer> i ahve question, can i
[13:29] <Pici> !ask
[13:30] <computer> what is the newest kernel in ubunut 12.04 coz i saw kernel 3.5 in synaptic "linux image 3.5é what is it
[13:30] <ewook> !samba4
[13:30] <ModNStuff_> lol !patience
[13:31] <canihojr> hi
[13:31] <EMKO> Can spaun run on ubuntu?
[13:31] <canihojr> some channel on spanish???
[13:31] <domie> !es
[13:31] <notwist> canihojr ^
[13:31] <canihojr> ty :D
[13:32] <computer> conar lol
[13:32] <computer> sorry miss channel
[13:32] <computer> miss channel srry admin
[13:33] <ModNStuff_> If and when, how does updating go? Do i lose my modifications ive made to this ?
[13:33] <EMKO> http://nengo.ca/build-a-brain/spaunvideos this should work on ubuntu since it's java right?
[13:33] <ewook> !help
[13:33] <ModNStuff_> If and when, how does updating go? Do i lose my modifications ive made to this ? 12.04 LTS to latest?
[13:34] <notwist> ModNStuff_: you should backup your stuff and do a complete reinstall instead, that is the best way to update
[13:35] <ModNStuff_> Awh well im not updating then, went through hell already with drivers and fixing to go through that again.  plus mods / tweaks ive made
[13:35] <philinux> ModNStuff_: stick with 12.04
[13:36] <RollinV2> ModNStuff_ depending on your skill level, you can also run scripts to automatically reinstall ppa and apps
[13:37] <philinux> ModNStuff_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153325/will-linux-kernel-3-5-be-coming-to-12-04
[13:38] <ModNStuff_> phil thats good to know
[13:39] <notwist> ModNStuff_: no point in upgrading from 12.04 as its relatively new and also LTS
[13:39] <domie> word ^
[13:41] <Touhou11> notwist: 12.04 is already severely outdated for lots of its software packages
[13:41] <Guest84340> I was under the expression that you could host your own DropBox
[13:42] <dr_willis> some would say it was outdated  when released. ;)
[13:42] <dr_willis> Guest84340:  THERES OPEN SOURCED EQUILIVENTS. LIKE 'OWNCLOUD'
[13:42] <dr_willis> oops
[13:42] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:43] <notwist> Touhou11: if theres a specific software package that is outdated for you and you really need it, surely you can upgrade that software package manually instead of upgrading your entire OS just for that
[13:43] <rikonor> what do you mean by outdated
[13:44] <dr_willis> theres always ppas and backports
[13:44] <Touhou11> Everything should be updated at all times, there's no reason to use old versions of software
[13:45] <dr_willis> ubuntu is not a rolling release..
[13:45] <dr_willis> other distros are,
[13:45] <dr_willis> !latest
[13:46] <Touhou11> I know what rolling release is
[13:46] <AxonetBE> My domain is not usign a FQDN when I'm sending mails. I will change this to for example webserver.domain.com, but what do I have to create for this in the dns? an A record or a MX record?
[13:46] <RollinV2> update if the latest release is stable. stay put if not.
[13:47] <notwist> Touhou11: if new versions of software do not 1) fix security issues 2) add functionality you need, no, there is no need to update just because its new
[13:47] <domie> 12.10 is released, i have updated to it, and yet, 12.10 is not stable for my laptop
[13:47] <rikonor> if updating linux programs a hassle
[13:47] <rikonor> is*
[13:47] <cgtdk> rikonor: usually not
[13:47] <RollinV2> for example, 12.04 is overall superior to 12.10
[13:47] <notwist> rikonor: if they are in the repositories you can do it with apt-get easy as pie
[13:47] <dr_willis> ive no issues with 12.10 - but it depends on a lot of things
[13:48] <Patero-ng> you don't have issues becuase you're a pro
[13:48] <canihojr> hi
[13:48] <canihojr> i have nvidia gtx 560, howto install?? any tutorial? plss
[13:49] <dr_willis> canihojr:  just install the nvidia-current packaje?
[13:49] <domie> i have random freezes whereas in 12.04 i never did, also i had to downgrade xorg 1.12 because my video card is old and amd drivers don't support it anymore, thus new software isn't the best in all cases
[13:50] <cgtdk> dr_willis: If he has to ask, I think he's going to need a little more instruction than that
[13:50] <boern> hello, i can you help me with steam for linux? i have a 64bit ubuntu and it wont start. i heard i need 32 bit binary? where do i get that?
[13:51] <cgtdk> boern: You should go to the official Steam for Linux forums. We do not support third party software.
[13:51] <Ankur_Agarwal> i have installed gstreamer plugins in /usr/local/
[13:51] <cgtdk> canihojr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[13:51] <Ankur_Agarwal> so i want to set the search path of the gstreamer
[13:51] <Ankur_Agarwal> how can i set it
[13:51] <boern> ok, thank you :)
[13:52] <cgtdk> canihojr: This is probably better: http://techhamlet.com/2012/11/install-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10/
[13:54] <DonoPatay> Anyone know any fix on Gwibber not authenticating facebook accounts?
[13:56] <Patero-ng> does anyone knows if a firewall is needed in ubuntu
[13:57] <compdoc> Patero-ng, depends on many things. is it behind a router or firewall?
[13:57] <llutz> Patero-ng: it's not, just make sure to confiure your services correctly
[13:58] <Patero-ng> is behind a router and it slittle firewall yea duh
[13:59] <the_ant> i have DVD repositories. i want to make local repositories mirror. which link should i  read?
[13:59] <DonoPatay> Patero-ng: Depends on what programs you use and what you want to go in and out of your of your system.
[13:59] <WeThePeople> how do i edit the side bar in 12.04
[14:00] <ModNStuff_> Wait, i just wondered something. Go named Earth and why?
[14:00] <ModNStuff_> Who
[14:00] <ModNStuff_> * Goes to google
[14:00] <xwalk> WeThePeople: What kind of changes are you trying to make to it?
[14:00] <the_ant> WeThePeople: explain edit.
[14:00] <DonoPatay> WeThePeople : Try the appearance setting and what do you mean edit the sidebar actually?
[14:01] <the_ant> i have DVD repositories. i want to make local repositories mirror. which link should i read?
[14:01] <WeThePeople> xwalk, edit the size of the icons
[14:01] <n00bz> if i make changes to ubuntu in a VM, are they permanent on my HD?
[14:01] <xwalk> WeThePeople: You can use MyUnity to edit that.
[14:01] <the_ant> n00bz: no.
[14:01] <DonoPatay> WeThePeople : Use the appearance setting
[14:01] <nitzer> i had an horrid waiting for my system to give me the login pane after it locked, this happens even if i reinstall my system ... :( it takes sometimes like 10 minutes if i'm lucky, but many times i have to restart lightdm to start working :( :( :(
[14:01] <DonoPatay> in the system settings
[14:02] <xwalk> WeThePeople: sudo apt-get install myunity
[14:02] <nitzer> any idea? any issue of this?
[14:02] <n00bz> then how, eithout the internet, do i google the problems, when i can't get it to work in linux :(
[14:03] <DonoPatay> WeThePeople: Dont even need myunity just change the size of the icons in the sidebar.
[14:03] <bazhang> xwalk, myunity is no longer in the repos
[14:04] <xwalk> bazhang: I just apt-cache searched it and found it immediately.
[14:04] <bazhang> xwalk, for what version of ubuntu, and what version is WeThePeople using
[14:04] <xwalk> bazhang: 12.04
[14:04] <DonoPatay> WeThePeople: Just go System Settings --> Appearance --> Launcher Icon Size
[14:05] <bazhang> he's gone
[14:05] <DonoPatay> What a twist?!
[14:06] <DonoPatay> Anyone want to play Sauerbraten in here?
[14:06] <Patero-ng> I want to play snes
[14:06] <DonoPatay> What game?
[14:07] <Patero-ng> soccershoout
[14:07] <ModNStuff_> I want to play ping ball but a remixed version :P
[14:07] <DonoPatay> Mortal Kombat in SNES?
[14:07] <Patero-ng> I suck @ it
[14:07] <Patero-ng> let's play mario kart
[14:07] <DonoPatay> How?
[14:07] <faze> i just installed 12.04 64bit desktop and now my mouse and keyboard don't work
[14:07] <ModNStuff_> !ot
[14:07] <DonoPatay> lol
[14:07] <bazhang> !ot | Patero-ng
[14:08] <faze> i just had 12.10 installed, and it worked in there
[14:08] <faze> the lights on both shut off after i select ubuntu via GRUB
[14:08] <c[_]> 2 questions, 1: I just installed ubuntu 11.04 onto a new laptop is there any reason why it's not charging. 2: I used gparted to make a partition for ubuntu but I think it overwrote windows, is there any way I can get windows back without a disk?
[14:09] <faze> i read some forums posts where people suggested "unplugging and plugging in your keyboard and mouse" which didn't work
[14:09] <faze> unfortunately i cannot ssh into the machine
[14:09] <faze> i guess i'll reinstall if no one else has any ideas
[14:09] <nitzer> i had an horrid waiting for my system to give me the login pane after it locked, this happens even if i reinstall my system ... :( it takes sometimes like 10 minutes if i'm lucky, but many times i have to restart lightdm to start working :( :( :(
[14:09] <ModNStuff_> 2 questions look for boot repair
[14:09] <notwist> faze: your computer wont boot at all after choosing ubuntu in grub, it shuts off?
[14:10] <faze> no, it boots to the login screen
[14:10] <ModNStuff_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:10] <faze> my keyboard and mouse lights shut off after that
[14:10] <notwist> faze: I really would recommend a clean install over an update
[14:10] <faze> so i can't even ctrl+alt+f2 to get a terminal
[14:10] <faze> notwist: that is what it was
[14:10] <notwist> faze: theres usually a "safe mode" boot option
[14:10] <faze> i wiped 12.10 and installed 12.04 fresh
[14:10] <notwist> faze: like "recovery mode" or something or other
[14:10] <faze> notwist: i'll give that a shot
[14:11] <faze> notwist: reinstalling on an ssd takes like 10 minutes anyways
[14:11] <DonoPatay> c[_]: I think you need to reinstall windows and how do you know its not charging?
[14:11] <ModNStuff_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:11] <faze> could it possibly have something to do with keeping the same /home partition?
[14:11] <faze> i could flatten /home too, nothing in there except steam games
[14:12] <c[_]> DonoPatay: i'll leave windows off if I have to do that and it shows the battery icon in red and has been like that over a few hours
[14:12] <c[_]> it only charges if I turn it off
[14:12] <ModNStuff_> lol a laptop that only charges if you turn it off ha
[14:13] <c[_]> ModNStuff_: it charged on windows fine
[14:13] <cgtdk> c[_]: Have you tried installing a newer version of Ubuntu, such as 12.04 LTS or 12.10?
[14:14] <c[_]> cgtdk: i'll download 12.10 and tell you if it works
[14:15] <canihojr> hi
[14:15] <cgtdk> greetings
[14:15] <canihojr> howto activate repos non-free and contrib??
[14:15] <ModNStuff_> silly earthling
[14:15] <DonoPatay> c[_]: You must be experiencing those li-on battery problems. i have experienced it myself. Try charging it without turning it on for a few a for hours.
[14:15] <llutz> canihojr: /j #debian
[14:15] <faze> now my mouse and keyboard aren't working in the installer
[14:15] <faze> what the hell
[14:16] <canihojr> llutz, on ubuntu?.. same?
[14:16] <cgtdk> faze: Use the text-based installer. The graphical one is terrible.
[14:16] <Mongolski> hej
[14:16] <faze> cgtdk: how do i do that
[14:16] <faze> i would prefer the text-based one, if that's what the server install has
[14:16] <faze> i am booting from a usb stick
[14:16] <c[_]> DonoPatay: i'll try that thanks
[14:16] <llutz> canihojr: they don't exist in ubuntu afaik. its debian-repos
[14:17] <faze> !help
[14:17] <canihojr> llutz, aha, then, for install nvidia ofi? any tutorial?
[14:17] <cgtdk> faze: Yes, it's the installer the server uses. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:17] <faze> does this channel have a knowledge bot
[14:17] <faze> cgtdk: thanks
[14:17] <llutz> !nvidia
[14:17] <faze> llutz: thanks
[14:17] <canihojr> ty
[14:17] <poz> anyone here an expert on dual boots on different hard drives?
[14:18] <c[_]> lenovo: don't dcc me use pm
[14:18] <dr_willis> poz:  should work fine. its fairly common practice
[14:18] <Toph2> poz,,, ask your question,,, there probably are
[14:19] <poz> dr_willis, it is not. when i try to load windows 7 from grub it says that it is an invalid device signature or something alone those lines
[14:19] <faze> cgtdk: so if i select the 'Desktop' generic package in the text based installer it will grab unity?
[14:19] <lenovo> sorry
[14:19] <poz> not working fine, I mean. I am sure it is common practice...
[14:19] <PoolShark_> hi. I'm having trouble installing afterstep in Precise. The packages installed and the /usr/share/xsessions/Desktop.afterstep file is there, and the binary is good, but the option does not show up in the sessions selection at the login screen
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: You're talking about the package selector interface in the text-based installer right?
[14:20] <DonoPatay> c[_] : What i meant for a few hours is actually how long your laptop usually charges up to a full charge. Then after that discharge the battery to about 40% below and try charging normally. If the symptom still persist you may need to replace your  battery.
[14:20] <faze> cgtdk: yes
[14:20] <poz> I could restart and get exactly what it says...
[14:20] <faze> since you asked that question, i assume the answer is yes :)
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: I usually just select no packages in that one so I don't get a graphical desktop
[14:20] <cgtdk> faze: and then when the installation is done I install whatever desktop I want
[14:21] <faze> cgtdk: ah. i am trying to set this up to run Steam
[14:21] <faze> so i suppose i will want the desktop
[14:21] <faze> ah
[14:21] <cgtdk> faze: Sure, but I think you should wait until the installation is done. That always works better for me.
[14:21] <faze> cgtdk: ah ok. so apt-get install unity will install the necessary packages
[14:22] <cgtdk> faze: actually I think the package is called "ubuntu-desktop".
[14:22] <c[_]> when i'm installing ubuntu do I really need an internet connection?
[14:22] <faze> ok, that's what i thought
[14:22] <faze> thanks for the help
[14:22] <cgtdk> no problem :)
[14:22] <faze> i prefer command line whenever possible anyways :)
[14:22] <DonoPatay> c[_]: nope. dont need to.
[14:23] <c[_]> ah good :) thanks DonoPatay
[14:23] <dean_> Hi all is there anyone knowledgeable with devede?
[14:23] <dr_willis> dean_:  used it befor.. state the actual  problrm andf see
[14:24] <faze> !pm
[14:24] <dean_> dr_willis, I am trying to convert an mkv format to iso but it isn't converting the subtitles within the mkv?
[14:25] <ModNStuff_> !OT
[14:26] <poz> so what i want to do is recreate an item in grub which will direct to windows 7 bootloader. I am not sure how though
[14:26] <ModNStuff_> POZ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:26] <faze> cgtdk: my keyboard and mouse die as soon as i get into the text installer!
[14:27] <faze> i wonder if the command line installer will work..
[14:27] <poz> thank you ModNStuff_
[14:27] <faze> huh, maybe i should bust out some ps/2 equipment
[14:27] <belgianguy> hmm, seems there _are_ quite some games for ubuntu
[14:27] <faze> i have no idea why this is happening
[14:28] <belgianguy> just played an alpha version for a game called 0AD (zero A.D.), looks great
[14:28] <cgtdk> Seems like an annoying problem, faze. Good idea about the PS/2 equipment. PS/2 is much less of a hassle than USB devices in my experience.
[14:28] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: try MegaGlest
[14:28] <dr_willis> dean_:  cant say ive ever used subtitles.  could be you need to split them out with ffmpeg or mencoder
[14:28] <faze> i have a ps/2 keyboard and an adapter for the mouse. it seems like the power dies whenever i get in an installer
[14:29] <belgianguy> DonoPatay: oh, nice!
[14:30] <faze> mmm ps/2 keyboard is functional
[14:30] <dean_> dr_willis, In the past when doing mp4 or avi you attach the srt to do project but with mkv it is contained in the mkv file so not sure what I have to do and devede hasn't got any support for this issue?
[14:30] <faze> old tech saves the day
[14:30] <belgianguy> why don't these things ever bubble up on tech forums? :/
[14:30] <belgianguy> or am I looking in the wrong places?
[14:30] <dr_willis> dean_:  you may want to check the devede forums
[14:30] <dr_willis> or homepage
[14:30] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: what do you mean?
[14:31] <dean_> dr_willis, Thats where I am at the mo but there is nothing posted on this particular issue
[14:31] <ModNStuff_> i BELIVE he misses bubbles
[14:31] <belgianguy> DonoPatay: If you hadn't shown me that, I wouldn't know of its existence
[14:31] <ModNStuff_> believe
[14:33] <ModNStuff_> GOOD OL cherry chew tabac
[14:33] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, ?
[14:33] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, what are you talking about
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> ModNStuff_, do you have a support question?
[14:34] <faze> cgtdk: the text installer is working well with the ps/2 keyboard. thanks for the help
[14:34] <ModNStuff_> thought id say something since no one is asking for help
[14:34] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic | ModNStuff_, you should be aware of this
[14:34] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , regardless of how busy it is here at the moment
[14:35] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: Try visiting these sites. http://www.penguspy.com/ and http://www.penguspy.com/ and welcome to the world of linux gaming!
[14:35] <ModNStuff_> Lol obviously you have been gone been in this chat for about 3 hours now and i say something and get ran over by 2 random guys
[14:35] <bazhang> ModNStuff_, move on
[14:35] <ModNStuff_> You move on
[14:36] <cgtdk> faze: awesome! no problem :)
[14:36] <Flamekebab> I've got an external hard disk that I'm sharing through Samba. The problem is despite having it setup in fstab using UUID it keeps mounting at a different place (it's supposed to mount at /media/share1 but it's power supply will flake out for a moment and then it'll get mounted at /media/share1_ )
[14:36] <barbadillo> hi all
[14:36] <nicholas> have a display manager problem in ubuntu?
[14:36] <DonoPatay> belgianguy: Try visiting these sites. http://www.penguspy.com/ and http://www.playdeb.net/ and welcome to the world of linux gaming!
[14:36] <barbadillo> I installed ubuntu via wubi
[14:37] <poz> should my windows boot loader be type chainloader or other?
[14:37] <barbadillo> 12.10
[14:37] <faze> Flamekebab: rip out the disk and put it in your machine
[14:37] <barbadillo> I have a problem, my computer restart by itself after the login in unity
[14:37] <Flamekebab> faze - it's connected to a Raspberry Pi
[14:37] <faze> Flamekebab: secure the power connector?
[14:37] <dr_willis> Flamekebab:  mount to like /media/shares/share1  then share the /media/shares directory ;)
[14:37] <faze> i suppose placing it in a raspberry pi is impossible :P
[14:37] <poz> barbadillo, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[14:38] <barbadillo> but only for the first time, after the spontaneous restart, it goes ok
[14:38] <faze> dr_willis' solution is good too
[14:38] <barbadillo> poz nvidia
[14:38] <faze> i suggest tackling the hardware problem
[14:38] <xetius> barbadillo, have you tried other login? gnome?
[14:38] <dr_willis> flakey power is not good in linux
[14:38] <Flamekebab> faze - the power connector isn't the issue, it's the external supply. I'm looking into replacing it as soon as I can but given the time of year it may take a few weeks :)
[14:38] <faze> ah
[14:38] <xetius> barbadillo: just unity or gnome etc as well?
[14:38] <barbadillo> xetius, no, but it is the same with the other os
[14:38] <faze> well, what dr_willis said would work
[14:39] <Flamekebab> dr_willis, that's no good. I need it to stay a fixed point for the other machines that use the shares in XBMC. If the share moves they lose all TV show info.
[14:39] <xetius> barbadillo: What other OS?
[14:39] <barbadillo> xetius, also booting windows it restarts after the login
[14:39] <faze> you could write a script to monitor the directory and create a symlink if the mountpoint changes
[14:40] <dr_willis> Flamekebab:  xbmc can read from  upnp/dlna servers also.. if the hd power is cutting out thats going to be an issue.
[14:40] <poz> barbadillo: this might work, there are some details from a chat I had yesterday. if it is a graphics problem that is... http://pastebin.com/GkUK6jnn
[14:40] <barbadillo> xetius, do you think it could be a hardware problem?
[14:40] <xetius> barbadillo: I would imagine it is when it is trying to initialise some piece of hardware.  Can you try remove all other devices connected
[14:40] <faze> Flamekebab: is the pi just running XMBC?
[14:40] <faze> er, XBMC
[14:40] <Flamekebab> faze, Raspbmc
[14:40] <xetius> barbadillo: if it is both in windows and ubuntu, then it has to be something common
[14:40] <faze> ah
[14:40] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: both ubuntu and windows restarts at login? You sure you dont have faulty hdd?
[14:41] <dr_willis> i got 2 pi's running raspbmc
[14:41] <faze> is it able to use samba shares?
[14:41] <faze> i mount my samba shares in xbmc over the network
[14:41] <dr_willis> they can share to each other via dlna/upnp  no samba needed
[14:41] <ghostd0g> hey folks , i am having a hard time making a bootable usb stic with a minimal ubuntu iso .. i have used unetbootin multiple times used both the network installer iso and the mini 12.10 iso... both refuse to boot ... the full 12.10 install does however work ... is ther a method that i can replace the software on the full version .. to make it a minimal ?
[14:41] <barbadillo> DonoPatay, only the first boot, after the restart they both are good
[14:42] <ghostd0g> or is ther a method wher i can build my own bootable usb .. without flasing a image to it ?
[14:42] <xetius> barbadillo: could be anything connected.  Do you have USB devices connected that you can disconnect.  Could be memory... if you have more than one module plugged in, try only running on one.
[14:42] <Flamekebab> faze, it is connected to my TV and also shares the content it houses via samba so I can access it on my other machines. So whenever a HDD disconnects and reconnects (usually in a matter of a second or two) it seems the system registers it unplugging but doesn't remount it in its old location.
[14:42] <xetius> barbadillo: Only first boot?
[14:42] <faze> ah
[14:42] <faze> do you have a separate box hosting the content, dr_willis?
[14:42] <barbadillo> xetius, yes, just the first one
[14:42] <Flamekebab> I thought specifying UUID was supposed to solve this issue
[14:43] <barbadillo> I thought it may be some mobo problem that fixes by itself with a restart...?
[14:44] <faze> possibly the disk is mounted before it is finished releasing the old mount point?
[14:44] <xetius> barbadillo: weird.  When it reboots itself it is fine?  If you turn it off, then back on (yes, I know) is it fine still?
[14:44] <dr_willis> faze:  i have several ;)
[14:44] <faze> hehe
[14:45] <xetius> barbadillo: My thinking is it may be something inside warming up
[14:45] <barbadillo> xetius, no, only rebooting it is safe, if I turn off and then on, it reboots itself
[14:45] <dr_willis> faze:  i have 2 pi's running the xbmc distros shareing to each other and the rest of the house. and a pc ubuntu with ushares shareing to the pis and  lan
[14:45] <faze> Flamekebab: you could do a bash script or something if the drive is always mounted in the same folder each time
[14:45] <Flamekebab> faze, I'm trying to understand why it won't just remount where it's supposed to
[14:45] <xetius> barbadillo: I don't know what the difference would be between a hard boot and a soft boot (system reboot)
[14:46] <barbadillo> xetius, but after the reboot you can use it for hours with no prblems, so I don't think it's about heating
[14:46] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: In one of those restarts does Windows go into safe mode or show some selectio to go to safe mode?
[14:46] <xetius> barbadillo: but I would guess that there will lie your answer
[14:46] <faze> Flamekebab: i would imagine it tries to remount and the mount point it was using hasn't been released yet
[14:46] <faze> but i am uncertain
[14:46] <Flamekebab> faze, that seems right
[14:47] <guesssssst> hello
[14:47] <cristofer6891> when receiving a ip address from DHCP the ubuntu kernel crashes & the following error is displayed "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/drivers/pci/msi.c:316!"
[14:47] <barbadillo> DonoPatay, yes, after the spontaneous restart, windows asks for safe mode or normal mode
[14:47] <cristofer6891> has anyone seen this?
[14:48] <DonoPatay> barbadillo: most likely you have a faulty hardware in there. Try booting a live CD and find out if the same thing happens.
[14:48] <guesssssst> i have blackubuntu wich is based on 10.10 but is no longer supported so i dont have anymore repos
[14:48] <poz> insmod part_msdos
[14:48] <poz> insmod ntfs
[14:48] <poz> set root='(hd0,msdos1)'
[14:48] <poz> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 52E63FB2E63F9567
[14:48] <poz> chainloader +1
[14:48] <FloodBot1> poz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <poz> does anyone know why that might not work?
[14:49] <guesssssst> what should i do?
[14:49] <guesssssst> any help?
[14:49] <canihojr> i, i try install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.04 but i have error...... first download .run oficial web... then turn off lighdm then execute script, but he return error: http://pastebin.com/gGSBEiqy any help??? sorry for my english! :P
[14:49] <notwist> guesssssst: why do you use an old version to begin with?
[14:49] <k1l> guesssssst: use a real ubuntu that got support
[14:50] <cgtdk> canihojr: You shouldn't download the driver from the nvidia website. You should install it from the Ubuntu repositories.
[14:50] <BlackPanx> one of my servers @ hetzner reported this problem: http://pastebin.com/Z6Ar1jdU does it mean it's cpu is faulty or it may be something else ?
[14:50] <canihojr> cgtdk, where is the packet?
[14:50] <guesssssst> but i dont know if i can install pen package on new release
[14:51] <cgtdk> canihojr: Software center → Edit menu → Edit sources → Additional drivers
[14:51] <xetius> barbadillo: Also possible that some setting in your bios may be wrong, and the soft reboot is setting and maintaining some state to get around this?  Tentative answer, but something to check (BIOS)
[14:51] <cgtdk> you should choose the one called nvidia-current
[14:51] <Flamekebab> faze, so any idea how I'd force the previous mount point to be released more quickly?
[14:51] <DonoPatay> canihojr: why use the official nvidia drivers? Just use the ones in the repository.
[14:52] <DonoPatay> canihojr : there no difference anyway.
[14:52] <canihojr> i try
[14:52] <canihojr> thanks
[14:53] <barbadillo> xetius, I think the same thing, but why after logging in? If you leave the computer standing on the login screen without logging in, it doesn't happen
[14:53] <faze> Flamekebab: i have no idea
[14:53] <Flamekebab> faze, thanks anyway :) I at least have a starting point for further research
[14:54] <faze> i would just write a script that is something like
[14:54] <shosin> any1  here
[14:54] <shosin> ??
[14:54] <cgtdk> shosin: plenty
[14:54] <faze> while True: time.sleep(1); if not os.path.exists(mount_point): make_a_symlink_to_mountpoint()
[14:54] <DonoPatay> we havin a rave party in here.
[14:55] <shosin> nyc :P
[14:55] <faze> you'd also want a case to update the symlink if the mountpoint changes again
[14:55] <xetius> barbadillo: Im guessing, that to get to the login screen in both Windows and Ubuntu, it only loads a minimal set of drivers that it requires to get to user login page.  Once you are logging in, in both systems, it will be initialising a myriad of devices, drivers and other pieces of software.  Any one of them could be accessing a faulty piece of hardware, or the thing which is making it reboot.
[14:57] <xetius> barbadillo: Not knowing what exactly happens during the logging in process, and exactly what the difference is between the hard and soft reboots, it is difficult to say.  Personally, I would try stripping the machine down to its basic components; The minimal items to actually run, and go from there.  If you have replacements for any pieces, then try those.
[14:58] <SolarisBoy> Flamekebab: you can execute a script to mount and umount (lazy) if needed on the fs using udev.rules
[14:58] <xetius> barbadillo: Also, running diagnostics on different things may give you information (Surface scan on HDD for example), but I don't know of a quick answer, i'm afraid.  Someone with more knowledge of Ubuntu may be able to point you to a system log file or debug mode, which may give you more information, but I don't have any quick answers
[14:58] <garfieldairlines> hi ! I have lighhtpd with postfixadmin and it makes me an 404 not found. I dpkg-reconfigured the thing to stick with lighhtpd but it still dosent work
[14:59] <barbadillo> xetius, ok thanks, I will also write to the mobo producer to see if they can help
[14:59] <garfieldairlines> does anyone has an idea what to do ?
[14:59] <poz> How can I find information on a partition? as in which the hard drive number it is located on is and what partition number it is?
[14:59] <xetius> barbadillo: they may have some diagnostics software that you can run
[14:59] <zantekk> gardar: missing symlink?
[14:59] <SolarisBoy> poz: fdisk
[14:59] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: : missing symlink?
[15:00] <garfieldairlines> zantekk: I don't have one yep, how can I do that ?
[15:00] <poz> I tryed fdisk -l but it only gives info on the hard drive running ubuntu
[15:01] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: I don't know the axact path, but I think lighthtpd's root is in /var/www/ where the pfa files are in /usr/share/postfixadmin ?
[15:01] <SolarisBoy> poz: you can point fdisk at a device as well but it should list all attached drives afaik
[15:01] <garfieldairlines> zantekk: exactly !
[15:01] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: in that case do smth like ln -s /usr/share/postfixadmin /var/www/postfixadmin
[15:01] <ModNStuff_> !IOT
[15:01] <ModNStuff_> !ot
[15:02] <ModNStuff_> !ot
[15:02] <garfieldairlines> aaaand it works !
[15:02] <vikas_openbees> okey so looks like i am missing any deep concept here ... I am calling a function in init() of Page.php .. it works fine on every page . but its not working on "security/login" page .. anyone have any idea ?
[15:02] <garfieldairlines> thanks a lot for your help, zantekk !
[15:02] <zantekk> garfieldairlines: perfect :)
[15:03] <zantekk> np ;)
[15:03] <ghostd0g> hey folks , i am having a hard time making a bootable usb stic with a minimal ubuntu iso .. i have used unetbootin multiple times used both the network installer iso and the mini 12.10 iso... both refuse to boot ... the full 12.10 install does however work ... is ther a method that i can replace the software on the full version .. to make it a minimal ? or is ther another  method i can build my own minimal usb stick
[15:05] <SolarisBoy> vim ghostd0g live-build
[15:07] <SolarisBoy> sorry the vim was terminal garbage - package named live-build customized livecd's, os, pxelinux, usb boot, etc
[15:07] <dr_willis> ghostd0g:  try just dd'ing the iso to the flash
[15:08] <ghostd0g> dr_willis : will try that next .. but if that fails ... is ther a methodto build it from scratch ?
[15:08] <dr_willis> ghostd0g:  dd is about as scratch asa it gets ;)
[15:08] <dr_willis> if dd fails theres deeper issues
[15:10] <ghostd0g> course the amount of time i spent on this its almost worth it to just install the full version and start pulling it apart lol
[15:12] <dr_willis> i find unetbootin problmatic
[15:12] <dr_willis> i tend to just use dd
[15:14] <poz> so should i put grub on to /dev/sdb (120034 mb; Kingston_SH103S3120G) OR /dev/sdb1 (1032 mb; /boot)
[15:14] <poz> ?
[15:15] <dr_willis> sdb if you are booting sdb
[15:16] <forzi> all halloy
[15:16] <dr_willis> rarely if ever would you want sdx#
[15:16] <poz> i am booting sdb
[15:16] <rikonor> hi quick question: on ubuntu what is the script langauge (i'm a noob). i know in some dist's it is bash but what is it in ubuntu
[15:16] <poz> i was just wondering becuase sdb1 is the /boot partition, i was not sure if grub goes on it or not
[15:17] <zantekk> rikonor: bash..
[15:18] <rikonor> k thanks
[15:18] <poz> i hope i never broke my machine
[15:21] <dr_willis> grub gors on the mbr of the disk. not the partition   normally
[15:22] <smart> Hi everyone
[15:23] <poz> anyone know why grub fails to boot windows 7? The error I get is... error: no suchg device: #############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[15:23] <poz> I have been trouble shooting this for hours
[15:23] <nicholas> how do i get the gnome 3.6 login screen?
[15:23] <dr_willis> you have 2 hds?
[15:23] <poz> yes
[15:24] <dr_willis> you have grub on sdb but not on sda?
[15:24] <poz> yes
[15:24] <canihojr> ohh, my driver nvidia-current no is update.... i need other more update than this.... for steam :/ howto can i update this? :/
[15:24] <dr_willis> tried telling the bios to boot sda?
[15:24] <dr_willis> that should boot to windows directly
[15:24] <poz> that works
[15:24] <poz> but i dont want to have to go into bios every time I want to get into windows 7
[15:25] <dr_willis> some bios's ive seen if you boot from a 2nd hd.. switches the drives around. so sdb would become sda and so forth
[15:26] <dr_willis> which can confuse things
[15:26] <davegarath> poz, dr_willis, that's interesting I have the same problem :) and enter in bios every time to switch order is very tedious
[15:26] <poz> there is a problem with my motherboard (I think) where my keyboard is activated in enough time to get into the bios only if I shut it off for a good 5-10 seconds. if it is a quick restart the keyboard does not activeate (to hit the del key - bios) until the log in screen
[15:26] <dr_willis> it sounds like the drives are switching and windows is getting confused
[15:27] <dr_willis> my mb has a key at boot to show the hds.. trivial to select what hd to boot
[15:27] <davegarath> dr_willis, I don't think this is a windows problem because I have the same problem with ubuntu on sdb
[15:27] <poz> dr_willis, this makes a bit of sense. I have a quick swap hd computer case and I change the order of the hds some times... I typically just change the boot order. but if I do that does it also change which drive is associated to which sd'letter'?
[15:28] <dr_willis> it could. thats why the use of uuids is standard these days
[15:29] <poz> the thing is, when ever I do fdisk or other commands, the windows is always sda (in ubuntu)
[15:29] <poz> maybe it is actually sdb?
[15:29] <poz> as far as i know, it has the correct uuid
[15:31] <poz> i have been giving google a million questions and have pretty much confirmed every line in the grub.cfg file and have tryed boot-repair
[15:32] <poz> it like grub can not see the other hd
[15:32] <poz> its*
[15:33] <poz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452519/
[15:33] <poz> that is what the boot-rapair gave me
[15:33] <poz> repair(
[15:33] <poz> *
[15:33] <Sorinan> My VT is being set, by some reason, to ISO-8859-1 whenever the system starts, and, also by some unknown reason, being set back to UTF-8 when I issue a "reset" in the terminal. How do I set this to UTF-8 always?
[15:36] <poz> sooo, any help?
[15:38] <fourq> I've joined the company Active Directory through a tool called Likewise AD Membership. It joined the domain just fine, but I cannot ping the box from any other machine.
[15:39] <Tecan> i have an encrypted home directory and the userdir apache2 mod wont work
[15:39] <Flamekebab> SolarisBoy, is there a guide on doing something like that I could find somewhere?
[15:39] <fourq> I don't know anything about LIkewise except that it claimed to join AD domains
[15:39] <cristofer6891> when receiving a ip address from DHCP the kernel crashes & the following error is displayed "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/drivers/pci/msi.c:316!" anyone know how to resolve this?
[15:40] <poz> lol Flamekebab
[15:41] <computer> priest walking down the street saw a hooker at a corner, he asked "what will you're mother think of what you're doing young lady!", she replies "she'll kill me for taking over her corner!".  sorry i was bored hehehe
[15:42] <DeadAidsGay> HAHAHAHA
[15:43] <mikro_> hi guys
[15:43] <notwist>  !ot | computer
[15:44] <computer> !ot | notwist
[15:44] <notwist> stop trolling
[15:44] <computer> i havent said a word since!
[15:45] <elementary-site8> Hi guys
[15:45] <elementary-site8> I need some help with a apparmor profile, anyone on??
[15:45] <Sorinan> My VT is being set, by some reason, to ISO-8859-1 whenever the system starts, and, also by some unknown reason, being set back to UTF-8 when I issue a "reset" in the terminal. How do I set this to UTF-8 always?
[15:45] <notwist> computer: sending me an ot-notification just because I sent you one is clearly trolling, do something useful with your time instead.
[15:45] <computer> Sorian, reinstall everything :)
[15:46] <computer> notwist, get over it!
[15:46] <computer> im done! dude
[15:46] <notwist> computer: stop giving useless advice like that, or I'll get an operator here
[15:46] <mikro_> does anyone know a text-based program that can view a picture (jpg, png,...) on terminal
[15:46] <Flamekebab> poz - what?
[15:46] <computer> useless to u maybe...
[15:46] <notwist> Sorinan: what do you mean by VT?
[15:47] <notwist> computer: useless to anyone, "reinstall everything" is not helping.
[15:47] <Touhou11> mikro_: The closest you can get is programs which convert pictures to ascii and show it on the terminal
[15:47] <Sorinan> notwist, Virtual Terminal
[15:47] <Touhou11> mikro_: Mplayer can ever play movies in ascii format
[15:47] <notwist> Sorinan: what program do you use, is it the default terminal program in Ubuntu?
[15:47] <computer> youre not sorian
[15:48] <mikro_> yes, ASCII, that is what i thought
[15:48] <mikro_> really, can mplayer do this?
[15:48] <llutz> michaelni: mplayer -vo aa  file
[15:48] <elementary-site8> any help with this I would be most grateful: ....  "Setting /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.firefox to enforce mode. Warning from stdin (line 1): /sbin/apparmor_parser: cannot use or update cache, disable, or force-complain via stdin AppArmor parser error,  in stdin line 23: Could not open 'abstractions/ubuntu-browsers.d/firefox'"
[15:49] <llutz> err micro_^
[15:49] <Sorinan> notwist, by VT I mean the VT100 terminal that I get when the system starts (no X)
[15:49] <computer> vlc best video player ever
[15:49] <llutz> mikro_:  mplayer -vo aa  file
[15:49] <kullix> question: i love the Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS interface, and i want to use it until april 2013. but i was wondering, is it really worth getting the newest Ubuntu to get the best Ubuntu experience? i have a core 2 duo t400 with 4GB of ram.
[15:50] <mikro_> thanks llutz, i'll try it now
[15:50] <wting> kullix: no
[15:50] <computer> kullix, if everything works fine, why fix it?
[15:50] <Touhou11> kullix: If you're happy there's no reason you have to upgrade. Though it you want a new Ubuntu with a more "classic" interface, try Xubuntu - it's very similar to GNOME 2
[15:51] <computer> upgaring isnt always the best option
[15:51] <Sorinan> notwist, well, solution found: "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup", thanks ^^
[15:51] <computer> upgrading isn't always the best option*
[15:52] <elementary-site8> anyone know where the 'abstractions' folder is located at?
[15:52] <notwist> kullix: if you dont know why youre upgrading you shouldnt do it
[15:52] <notwist> elementary-site8: this channel is for ubuntu support
[15:53] <computer> notwist, i apologize.
[15:53] <kullix> oh ok thanks guys
[15:53] <kullix> i'll stick with 10.04
[15:53] <notwist> elementary-site8: if you're using elementary os thats a beta version
[15:53]  * computer was being a troll, i admit it
[15:53] <kullix> you guys like the 64-bit?
[15:54] <computer> 64bit yes!
[15:54] <lucido> hello, I haz problem with youtube. When ŰI maximize a video it shows in a small square in the middle of a black screen. Using proprietary nvidia drivers on amd64 ubuntu
[15:54] <llutz> elementary-site8: " /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/" ?
[15:54] <elementary-site8> notwist I know but it's pretty much ubuntu 12.04
[15:54] <computer> if your system is can handle 64bit go 4 it
[15:55] <wylde> elementary-site8, you could always 'sudo updatedb; locate abstraction'
[15:55] <computer_> mint ftwww
[15:55] <thunkee> lucido: try using adobe flash player
[15:55] <computer_> kidding hi
[15:55] <elementary-site8> sudo updateb; locate abstraction
[15:55] <computer_> how to install drivers from ati site ?
[15:55] <computer> :)
[15:55] <magez> heys, someone knows of a cheap 1155 ?ATX mobo that is for sure compatible with ubuntu 64?
[15:56] <notwist> Ignoring ALL from *!*@72-57-226-176.pools.spcsdns.net FYI computer
[15:56] <Gamer1990_> hello.
[15:56] <lucido> thunkee, but I am arent I, I istalled the restricted extraqs package
[15:56] <kullix> computer: well i put windows 7 64 bit on yesterday and it was so fast, just to test the speed (this is my first 64-bit cpu cuz money is tight), and im wondering, ubuntu 10.04 64-bit, hmmmm
[15:56] <Gamer1990_> i want to know how to do a distribution upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 beta
[15:56] <thunkee> lucido: default is gnash in 12.10 i think
[15:57] <notwist> Gamer1990_: clean install.
[15:57] <notwist> Gamer1990_: you don'
[15:57] <computer> kullix, want faster? go with xubuntu
[15:57] <notwist> t upgrade to a beta
[15:57] <elementary-site8> They used ubuntu to built their system but they probably changed the name of the folders that's why it can't find "in stdin line 23: Could not open 'abstractions/ubuntu-browsers.d/firefox'"
[15:57] <computer> notwist, well then...fuck u!
[15:57] <computer_> kkdeeeeeee
[15:57] <notwist> elementary-site8: it's irrelevant, this channel is for ubuntu support only.
[15:57] <Gamer1990_> watch your language
[15:57] <computer> notwist, good day sir!
[15:58] <DJones> computer: Drop the bad language, its not appreciated in the channel
[15:58] <Gamer1990_> is it even possible?
[15:58] <lucido> thunkee, nope, its the flashplugin-installer package that comes with the system at least when rextras are installed
[15:58] <computer> k, notwist, well then... screw u!
[15:58] <elementary-site8> I know notwist but I would like to know where the 'abstractions' folder is located in ubuntu... is that too hard?
[15:58] <llutz> !13.04 | Gamer1990_
[15:58] <kullix> computer: hmmmm, xubuntu 64-bit, ey?
[15:58] <computer> Djones, is that better?
[15:58] <notwist> I've already put computer on the ignore list but if he's abusive you should call an op with exlamation op command
[15:59] <thunkee> lucido: ok i had to install adobe version to get youtube right
[15:59] <notwist> !op computer is still in the channel as nick computer_ from open proxy
[16:00] <computer_> hum
[16:00] <computer_> ppl we have 2 computer
[16:00] <computer_> i'm not the computer who said injuries
[16:01] <allsystemsarego> Hi all, how can I get in touch with someone from the LoCo team in Zurich, Switzerland? I'd like to send someone their way, and I'd like to ask them to help install Ubuntu on the laptop of a relative of mine who lives there.
[16:01] <lucido> another question is, how can I stop youtube in html5 mode to exit from fullscreen igf I click on something on another twinview display? I can do that with normal flash if I edit some .so file (see http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html)but when a vid is playing in html5 something else is handling it
[16:02] <newroad> hullo all. I'm having an issue where it seems that sound through headphones seems to be playing without any bass. What could cause that?
[16:02] <Touhou11> newroad: Buy new headphones?
[16:02] <lucido> Newa, change headphones?
[16:02] <newroad> No matter what pair of headphone I use, there is absolutely 0 bass. It I use and equlizer to turn up the bass or emphasize the bass, there is either no difference or the sound disappears
[16:03] <newroad> the laptop itself has both speakers and a dedicated subwoofer
[16:03] <elementary-site8> well thanks for nothing I'm out you rude idiots... I guess telling me where the abstractions folder is at is 2 difficult
[16:03] <elementary-site8> if I didn't have this nick I bet you would
[16:03] <kaosfury> If you were asking about ubuntu, they would
[16:03] <lucido> wut
[16:04] <newroad> so my guess is that the laptop drivers aren't reassigning the subwoofer to the headphones
[16:04] <newroad> i've tried three different pairs.
[16:05] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys What is kworker?
[16:06] <newroad> Touhou11: thanks but believe me, ive tried that repeatedly.
[16:08] <kaosfury> dhanasekaran: Kworker is what controls the ACPI wakeup signals from the BIOS.
[16:08] <newroad> the laptop is a Sasung Series 7 Chronos NP700Z7C, with a JBL speaker system built in, and Optimus as well if that makes a difference (i don't think it would but just in case)
[16:08] <Touhou11> elementary-site8: Just grep/find to locate it
[16:08] <elementary-site8> OK OK OK I have one GREAT BIG FAVOR TO ASK:  can someone with ubuntu 12.04 please send me the 'firefox' test file located in /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/firefox
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> hi, i am trying to run a wimple windows program that a friend gave me to review math concepts. Al the program does is play mp4 videos located in a folder, but i believe it uses flash player for this
[16:08] <newroad> is there perhaps a better audio driver I could try?
[16:08] <Pinkamena_D> i could just play then manually, but they all have weird filenames
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> it gives an error in the problem for macromadia director:script error, i believe because teir is no player installed
[16:09] <Pinkamena_D> is this possibl to fix with wine?
[16:09] <Touhou11> Pinkamena_D: Have you tried just playing them with VLC?
[16:10] <Pinkamena_D> again, their are tones of small videos located in a folder with weird filenames, and the exe file opens a program where they have legible titles and a player
[16:10] <Pinkamena_D> i could play them manually, but it would be a pain
[16:10] <poz> so i dont know if anyone here remembers my booting problems but I have another detail. if I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[16:10] <poz> what is up with thaT?
[16:11] <Touhou11> Pinkamena_D: Drag them all into a VLC Playlist. If the video files have standard metadata, VLC should also be able to display legible titles
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> poz  if it's win8, UEFI needs a signature
[16:11] <Pinkamena_D> ok, i will try it
[16:12] <faze> does anyone know why using the experimental nvidia drivers has the unfortunate side effect of disabling my mouse and keyboard
[16:12] <poz> MonkeyDust: windows 7
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> ok
[16:12] <faze> in 12.04 desktop 64 bit
[16:12] <elementary-site8> CAN SOMEONE JUST COPY AND PASTE THE CONTENTS OF  /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/firefox so I can make that text file.... damn
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:13] <elementary-site8> no help uh
[16:13] <b14d3> You're still not asking about Ubuntu. There's a trend.
[16:13] <newroad> Hello, I'm having an issue where no matter what headset I plug in, I have 0 bass. ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[16:13] <poz> Ever hear of this problem before? I reinstalled everything to hopfully avoid it but it persists
[16:13] <faze> elementary-site8: i have no such file
[16:14] <b14d3> newroad: Did you try plugging something else into the jack that the headphones are plugged in?
[16:14] <faze> i had nowhere near this much trouble with 12.10, is 12.04 just a crap release or something?
[16:14] <faze> it's an LTS, it should be more stable than 12.10
[16:15] <elementary-site8> ok b14d3 can anyone please check if they have a file named 'firefox' in   /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/   in ubuntu 12.04 12.10 or 13.04
[16:15] <faze> a better question is, why are you missing that file
[16:16] <elementary-site8> because they used ubuntu and then removed stuff from ubuntu?
[16:16] <faze> sudo apt-get install firefox
[16:16] <dhanasekaran> I've started seeing something called "kworker" listed recently when I run top.
[16:16] <faze> or download the installer
[16:17] <poz> elementary-site8 I do not
[16:17] <newroad> b14d3, ould you give me an example?
[16:17] <poz> I do not have that file and I have firefox
[16:17] <newroad> plug what into the headphone jack? you mean speakers?
[16:17] <b14d3> newroad: Do you have a set of external speakers?
[16:17] <newroad> I don't :(
[16:17] <b14d3> newroad: Do you have another set of headphones?
[16:17] <newroad> but I have three different headsets
[16:18] <b14d3> newroad: Do the other headphones get bass from that jack?
[16:18] <newroad> all of them produce that same problem.
[16:18] <b14d3> newroad: Then how are you so sure it's a driver problem, and not a hardware problem with that jack
[16:18] <newroad> ah, because the bass is perfect if I reboot into Windows
[16:18] <joey8> elementary-site8→ hi there. i have come accros the same problem as you and i have the answer.
[16:19] <erncic> dhanasekaran, http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[16:19] <elementary-site8> joey8 what is the answer?
[16:19] <b14d3> newroad: Ah, that makes sense, and is also important information.
[16:20] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[16:20] <cazecaceazceaz> hi
[16:21] <joey8> elementary-site8→ i was just about to give it to you but then i realised that you think i am a rude idiot so... sorry about that.... you can go suck a lemon :¬)
[16:21]  * joey8 laughs
[16:21] <poz> :( joey8 you should always help
[16:21] <cazecaceazceaz> hi ppl
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> i was banned
[16:22] <poz> why?
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> coz error
[16:22] <poz> or
[16:22] <poz> oh*
[16:22] <b14d3> poz: I agree, but he's not wrong.
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> a troll was here who was 'computer'
[16:22] <poz> lol oh
[16:22] <cazecaceazceaz> and i was 'computer'
[16:22] <poz> lol
[16:22] <poz> I just wish some one could help me with my boot problem
[16:23] <tbrtrb> dammit
[16:24] <tbrtrb> i wanted to say 'computer_'
[16:24] <tbrtrb> NOT COMPUTER
[16:24] <tbrtrb> stop ban me plz, i was COMPUTER_ not COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:25] <b14d3> Flooding about who you aren't isn't helping :P
[16:25] <tbrtrb> so I was not the troll, sorry i don't know where to msg
[16:25] <DJones> tbrtrb: Please join #ubuntu-ops to resolve the ban as you were asked to do in the ban message
[16:25] <forzi> hay krey
[16:26] <elementary-site8> actually all I had to do was copy and paste ubuntu file on mine and it worked
[16:26] <krey_> forzi: o/
[16:26] <elementary-site8> but now it asks for another one :(
[16:26] <forzi> who
[16:26] <elementary-site8> stdin line 155: Could not open 'local/usr.bin.firefox'
[16:26] <Kion1> is there an easy way to get rid of all the past kernels on my system?
[16:26] <bdi_> hmmm ok...i have added this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452657/ to the bottom of /etc/ssh/ssh_config. I have created a group called sftp, and i have a user called joe. /home/joe exists, and i executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452668/ However when i try to connect i get connection refused...When i try logging in with root credentials it works fine. Am i missing something?
[16:28] <forzi> krey I live in PMR, Wthont you?
[16:29] <Karoliina_> Question: I screwed up an LXDE installation and it broke Unity. Would backing up and reinstalling, then restoring from the backup solve the problem?
[16:29] <poz> if you know what you are doing in terms of dual boot on multiply hard drives in grub, can you pm me?
[16:30] <dcherniv> bdi_, well yea
[16:30] <dcherniv> bdi_, you set the shell to /bin/false
[16:30] <forzi> poz set not meltiple.
[16:30] <poz> pardon?
[16:31] <bdi_> dcherniv, yeah, but i should still be able to connect to sftp according to this tutorial: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229
[16:31] <poz> sure, a set of hard drives (only 2 actually) lol
[16:31] <elementary-site8> AHAHHAHAHA I GOT IT TO WORK
[16:32] <elementary-site8> MY FIREFOX NOW HAS APPARMOR
[16:32] <poz> what is apparmor?
[16:32] <elementary-site8> SUCK IT YOU UBUNTU FAGS ... SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[16:32] <poz> why so mean?
[16:32] <poz> such bm
[16:32] <elementary-site8>  ELEMENTARY IS WIN UBUNTU IS FAIL
[16:32] <elementary-site8> ahhahahha
[16:32] <poz> sir, you have bad manners
[16:33] <forzi> bengaza see TV
[16:33] <newroad> *rolls eyes* what a moron
[16:34] <newroad> Hello, I'm having an issue where no matter what headset I plug in, I have 0 bass. ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[16:34] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[16:34] <dcherniv> bdi_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452657/ this added to sshd_config not ssh_config correct?
[16:34] <joey8> !op
[16:34] <Jester_> Hi All
[16:35] <IdleOne> joey8: ?
[16:35] <joey8> IdleOne→ bad bad language here
[16:35] <DJones> joey8: He's left the channel already
[16:35] <forzi> pardon
[16:35] <joey8> IdleOne→ he's gone thanx anyway
[16:35] <poz> looking for someone who has experience with grub and 2 hard drives
[16:35] <Abhijit> IdleOne, the person joey8 complaining about has already left the channel.
[16:35] <IdleOne> ok, thank you.
[16:36] <Abhijit> poz, just ask away the question with details.
[16:36] <poz> Abhijit, I have before, there are a lot of details...
[16:37] <poz> basically I get this when I try to load windows 7 from grub : error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue...
[16:37] <forzi> give mi vk hacker plise/
[16:37] <Abhijit> poz, are you using UEFI?
[16:38] <poz> what is UEFI?
[16:38] <Abhijit> that means you are not using it!
[16:38] <Abhijit> poz, do you have dual boot? which are the os you are having in your hdd? how many hdd? which os on which hdd?
[16:39] <FlowRiser> How do i install a .tar.gz file in ubuntu ?
[16:39] <Abhijit> FlowRiser, you dont. you first extract it and then follow the instruction to compile and insatll it
[16:39] <FlowRiser> i see, thanks
[16:39] <Abhijit> FlowRiser, to extract it, in the terminal do, tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[16:39] <forzi> tar and gz thise arhive
[16:40] <poz> I have dual boot (atleast I think i do). I have win 7 on one hd (sda) and ubuntu on another hd (sdb)
[16:40] <poz> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[16:40] <KI4RO> flowr
[16:40] <Abhijit> poz, thats not a dual boot. both os on different hdd! does your grub shows windows 7 entry ?
[16:41] <KI4RO> FlowRiser, You're better off trying to find a .deb file
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> poz  type sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit and paste the url here
[16:41] <percent__> I am wanting to install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 13" can I just install it off the live disk without boot camp if I plan to wipe the entire HD?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> !mac | percent__ read this first
[16:43] <poz> Abhijit, it does. at first it just showed one windows 7 entry. after i tryed boot-repair, it shows 2 entrys (one for each partition sda1 and sda2). this is the pastebin from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452519/
[16:44] <Abhijit> poz, whats sdc?
[16:44] <TomyLaptop> hi
[16:44] <Abhijit> poz, i think sda and sdb are you two main hdd. sda has windows 7 and sdb has ubuntu. right?
[16:44] <poz> this is fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/XdL3hZxj
[16:44] <Abhijit> then what is that sdc?
[16:44] <TomyLaptop> how do i regenerate a package's default configuration files?
[16:45] <percent__> MonkeyDust: I have read through a lot of that, but can't find anything specific about wiping the HD and having only ubuntu. Most everything explains how to Dual boot.
[16:45] <poz> sdc and sdd are just storage
[16:45] <poz> sda (win 7) and sdb (ubuntu) are my main ssd's with the os's on them
[16:48] <poz> it is strange. when I follow this order of actions this is what happens: I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue... SO somthing happens when I boot into ubuntu
[16:49] <poz> hummm
[16:49] <poz> looking at the fdisk I can see that sda is ubuntu and sdb is windows 7
[16:49] <poz> This was not true an hour ago
[16:49] <poz> I was swapping the hard drives trying to debug this
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> poz  normally, windows sits on sda1
[16:50] <poz> my computer case lets me swap hard drives very easily
[16:51] <poz> I can see that the hard drives are all mixed up
[16:52] <melfy> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches  ==> permission denied as root ??
[16:52] <poz> I will be right back. I am going to correct the hard drive problem
[16:53] <llutz> melfy: using sudo?
[16:53] <Pici> melfy: use: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[16:54] <ashp> Anyone here know where /etc/init.d/ scripts obtain $PIDFILE from?  Jenkins calls to $PIDFILE all the time but doesn't have it defined anywhere.
[16:54] <TomyLaptop> http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X I get this error when installing nvidia-current-updates. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ this is the log file mentioned.
[16:54] <ashp> I'm baffled by this because it works sometimes then randomly breaks for me.
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)
[16:55] <Sietsem> TomyLaptop, do you have the kernel headers installed?
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> i think so
[16:55] <TomyLaptop> which package would that be?
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> TomyLaptop  what ubuntu version?
[16:56] <TomyLaptop> linux-headers-3.2.0-35 is installed
[16:56] <TomyLaptop> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> TomyLaptop  12.04 has 3.2, not 3.5
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> ok, correct
[16:57] <llutz> ashp: usually the PIDFILE is defined at the start of init-scripts, see " (grep -l PIDFILE) /etc/init.d/skeleton"
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> i misread
[16:57] <poz> Okay, here is my new fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/UpAf6LCB
[16:57] <tomreyn> ashp: it should be defined in the init scripts header, usually somewhere below /var/run/
[16:57] <poz> sda is windows 7 and sdb is ubuntu
[16:58] <poz> I also double checked to see if the following still occurs: I boot into windows - restart booting into grub - I can load windows fine. However, if I load into ubuntu - restart into grub - windows does not boot. I get this error: no such device: ###############. error: invalid signature. Press any key to continue... SO somthing happens when I boot into ubuntu
[16:58] <poz> it does
[16:58] <poz> sorry about the confusion before
[16:58] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, I have a folder which contains like 1800 files (mostly PDFs books) and the problem is that folder takes time to load, like 6 to 7 seconds whenever I open it
[16:59] <hrolf> is there anything that I can do?
[16:59] <hrolf> though when I do ls it is very fast
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  maybe because 1800 icons loading need some time
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I don't want icons, how do I hide them?
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I have decreased the size very small still takes time
[17:00] <tomreyn> hrolf: the classic approach to deal with this is to have create more subdirectroeis, such as creating one subdirectory for every first character and move the matching files into it.
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  View > Compact
[17:00] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I have already selected Compact
[17:00] <hrolf> view
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  what do you mean by hiding icons?
[17:01] <hrolf> tomreyn: Isn't there any other way to disable icons for that particular folder?
[17:01] <tomreyn> hrolf: there are also some file system options which could improve handling many smaller files  in the same directory (but i would need to look them up, too)
[17:01] <poz> lol he calls them "pdfs" :P
[17:01] <poz> how cute
[17:02] <tomreyn> hrolf: depends on your file browser, i guess
[17:02] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: You said it could be due the loading icons, so I asked if there is any way I can hide the icons
[17:02] <hrolf> poz: They are not illegal books (if that's why you meant).
[17:02] <Guest25882> i have the source code for ios 6 anyone intrested ?
[17:02] <joggers> does anyone here know how to install VM with a template i have?
[17:03] <joggers> does anyone here know how to (re)install VM with a template i have?
[17:03] <hrolf> tomreyn: File browser?
[17:03] <joggers> ubuntu 12.10
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  no, in the GUI it's always with icons
[17:03] <tomreyn> hrolf: fwiw, i didn't get poz's comment either
[17:03] <nopz> Hi there, I have an ubuntu machine inside a VirtualMachine, when I run iotop nothing gets updated
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  or try xfce's file manager, i forget the name
[17:04] <poz> hrolf, I did not mean that. I am sure they are pdfs, but was just insinuating that they are of adult material (photos, vids, ect...)
[17:04] <Guest25882> full ios 6 source code here
[17:04] <tomreyn> hrolf: a file browser is like a web browser, but for files / directories
[17:04] <melancholie> does "working every two weeks" mean a week on and a week off?
[17:04] <hrolf> tomreyn: What else file browsers are there available for Ubuntu?
[17:04] <tomreyn> MonkeyDust: thunar
[17:04] <TomyLaptop> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64) http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> !info pcmanfm | hrolf
[17:05] <TomyLaptop> can someone tell me how to solve that?
[17:05] <dcherniv> hrolf, pcmanfm
[17:05] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: Would it affect my system? Like do I have to remove the current one? Or can we keep it side-by-side?
[17:05] <dcherniv> hrolf, great lightweight multi-tabbed file manager
[17:06] <tomreyn> hrolf: i can think of neutilus, thunar out of the box. i think kde uses the same as its web browser, konqueror. not sure about others, i mostly use a terminal for file operations.
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  side by side, just select the other as default
[17:06] <Abhijit> poz, do one thing. take the question on askubuntu
[17:06] <TomyLobo> tomreyn dolphin, nautilus, thunar... what's it with the maritime animals?
[17:07] <poz> okay Abhijit. Will do
[17:07] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: I see. Let me try (downloading).
[17:07] <dcherniv> TomyLaptop, did you install kernel-headers?
[17:07] <poz> Thanks for the advice
[17:07] <TomyLobo> dcherniv as a package name? no
[17:08] <TomyLobo> i have linux-headers-3.2.0-35 though
[17:08] <hrolf> Another question, how in Linux/Ubuntu you open the terminal in a specific dir (sort of like a shortcut) without cd'ing to that dir.
[17:08] <tomreyn> TomyLobo: dunno, i didn't invent those names. maybe the idea is that they deal with what's under the surface.
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  in synaptic, look for nautilus scripts
[17:09] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, linux-headers-3.2.0-35 installed in package manager?
[17:09] <poz> I think the built in file manager is better then pcmanfm
[17:10] <dcherniv> nothing is better than pcmanfm, hands down the best file manager on linux
[17:10] <poz> why?
[17:10] <TomyLobo> dcherniv i A   linux-headers-3.2.0-35 3.2.0-35.55 i A   linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic 3.2.0-35.55
[17:10] <poz> i find the default to be just as fast
[17:11] <dcherniv> poz, magnitudes faster and lighter than anything else out there while maintaining the same feature parity
[17:11] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm looks right, what does uname -a say?
[17:11] <TomyLobo> Linux ideenpad 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:12] <poz> dcherniv, maybe I do not notice a difference because my machine is to fast already?
[17:13] <tomreyn> hrolf: depends on the terminal emulator you use. For gnome-temrinal it's: gnome-terminal --working-directory=/tmp --window
[17:14] <TomyLobo> dcherniv Linux ideenpad 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:15] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm i dunno should work
[17:15] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, try installing full sources, though that shouldnt be needed
[17:15] <poz> Any  recommendations for download managers?
[17:15] <dcherniv> poz, its possible
[17:17] <tomreyn> poz: i've rarely needed one, but there is the "downthemall" extension for firefox, pyload, jdownloader, aria2
[17:18] <BluesKaj> odd, I have no grub menu text after upgrading the latest kernel , only a grey-brown blank page with no text ...any others encountered this ?
[17:19] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: i haven'T, maybe your grub defaults were changed?
[17:19] <faze> is there another distro that is pretty much identical to 12.04
[17:19] <poz> I guess jdownloader will do. I like fdm in windows, nice and simple
[17:19] <faze> i am encountering horrible issues with 12.04
[17:20] <faze> my keyboard and mouse refuse to work half the time, i get some weird usb error
[17:20] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, I forgot to mention I get the menu if I hold the shiftkey down right after the bios page
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> faze  other distro's have adopted unity, but don't know which
[17:20] <faze> 10.04 was a solid release, but 12.04 desktop is literal trash from what i've seen
[17:20] <TomyLobo> dcherniv installed linux-source-3.2.0 (3.2.0-35.55), same error
[17:20] <faze> i just want something to run linux steam
[17:21] <faze> 12.04 lts is their recommended version, but it is buggy as hell
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> faze  ask in #linux, we cannot promote other distro's here
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm
[17:21] <TomyLobo> installed kernel-package too, for good measure
[17:21] <faze> MonkeyDust: ok
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, im lost here
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, you have build-essential installed?
[17:21] <faze> well, has anyone else experienced keyboard and mice not working in 12.04 lts?
[17:21] <numberto> Hi guys. I am on ubuntu 12.10 and I have issue which I don't know how to troubleshoot. On my keyboard the up and down arrows have "page up" and "page down" functions at the same time (if fn button is pressed). When I press Fn+down arrow  page goes down one page, but when i press Fn+up arrow, nothin happens. So now I don't understand why one of the combos work and the other don't
[17:21] <TomyLobo> yes
[17:21] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: check/edit  /etc/default/grub
[17:21] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, kernel-package?
[17:22] <TomyLobo> yes, just installed
[17:22] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, are you running a custom kernel?
[17:22] <faze> my mouse light is on until i select ubuntu in GRUB
[17:22] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: run update-grub afterwards to apply your changes
[17:22] <faze> then it fucking shuts off!
[17:22] <faze> why would ubuntu SHUT OFF my mouse and keyboard, that is absolutely ridiculous
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> faze  mind your language
[17:22] <IdleOne> faze: No swearing please
[17:22] <faze> apologies
[17:22] <TomyLobo> dcherniv i dont know, so probably not :)
[17:22] <morsnowski> faze, thats good it means your mouse is working
[17:23] <faze> this is why i use an operating system you have to pay for on my main machine
[17:23] <faze> the one not made by the seattle company
[17:23] <faze> i just don't want to use a redmond operating system, but ubuntu isn;t quite ready for real consumer use yet
[17:23] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, hm. try the drivers from nvidia.com maybe.
[17:23] <faze> i suppose this is offtopic so i'll stop complaining
[17:24] <TomyLobo> dcherniv last time i did that, some guy here said i broke my ubuntu
[17:24] <morsnowski> faze, what type of mouse is it?
[17:24] <faze> a logitech that worked perfectly fine in 12.10
[17:24] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, ook. ehm pastebin lspci output?
[17:24] <faze> it is a g5 gamer mouse
[17:24] <TomyLobo> lspci -nn http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452676/
[17:24] <faze> my usb keyboard refuses to work, but a ps2 keyboard works
[17:24] <faze> i don't have a ps/2 mouse handy
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> faze  did you go back to 12.04?
[17:25] <faze> i mean, this is unacceptable behavior for an operating system
[17:25] <faze> MonkeyDust: i clean installed 12.04
[17:25] <faze> imagine if you sold someone a computer and they took it home and their mouse and keyboard refused to work
[17:25] <morsnowski> hmm i have a logitech mouse on 12.04 with no problems at all. is it an 12.04 out of the box? and did you check the md5 hashs
[17:26] <tboat> Well, that is the risk you take with Linux and open source, not hardware is compatible
[17:26] <faze> it was an install from the mini.iso
[17:26] <tboat> not all*
[17:26] <faze> tboat: i understand
[17:26] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, two video cards then
[17:26] <faze> there are companies that are betting a portion of their future on this platform though
[17:26] <tboat> faze: installed all updates?
[17:26] <faze> yes
[17:26] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, still doesnt explain why nvidia module wouldnt compile
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> faze  i guess companies don't use gamer mice
[17:26] <morsnowski> faze, and thats OK. i have HW here that doesn't run under winows
[17:26] <InspectorCluseau> I had a wireless usb mouse issue. Fixed by using an adapter to use ps2.
[17:26] <faze> it worked for a while, and then i installed the drivers required by the steam beta client
[17:27] <faze> then i rebooted and the issue happened again
[17:27] <faze> and now on a clean install they won't work
[17:27] <faze> maybe i should just go back to 12.10
[17:27] <tomreyn> tboat: you could also put it this way: that's the limitation you buy when buying hardware form a vompany which doesn't make specs available and does not spend money on developing drivers for linux (but other operating systems).
[17:27] <morsnowski> hmm, odd
[17:27] <dcherniv> TomyLobo, i dont know man
[17:27] <TomyLobo> dcherniv yeah it's this optimus crap
[17:28] <tboat> faze: did you roll back to 12.04 because of mouse issue or something else?
[17:28] <faze> something else
[17:28] <morsnowski> faze, could you try to run 12.04 from a live cd or usb stick ?
[17:28] <faze> more for the long term support
[17:28] <faze> the 12.04 graphical installer didn't work
[17:28] <faze> i had to use mini.iso and a ps/2 keyboard
[17:28] <faze> my usb keyboard refused to work in the text installer as well, which i thought was weird
[17:29] <TomyLobo> dcherniv i'm using bumblebee too
[17:29] <morsnowski> hmm i suggest you get a fresh 12.04 iso, check the hashs and try again
[17:29] <tboat> well if the graphical installer didnt work, then you had a bad image.
[17:30] <faze> tboat: the graphical installer started up fine, but my mouse and keyboard didnt work
[17:30] <faze> they work in windows
[17:30] <tboat> well yeah, its windows, thats why it costs money
[17:30] <faze> haha
[17:31] <tboat> you said its a g5 gamer mouse? what kind of keyboard is it?
[17:31] <faze> i just thought it was a weird problem. i'll try a fresh iso and i'll md5sum it
[17:31] <faze> just some generic "media keyboard"
[17:31] <OerHeks> faze maybe it is a bios setting > usb legacy support
[17:31] <tboat> lenovo, dell, hp, or just a keyboard with no labels on it?
[17:31] <faze> OerHeks: why would 12.04 not work and 12.10 work?
[17:32] <tboat> faze 12.10 is newer...
[17:32] <faze> tboat: it's a dynex
[17:32] <faze> tboat: i used this mouse on 10.04
[17:32] <faze> that is older
[17:33] <tboat> and more stable, i have to agree with Oer, probably BIOS>usb Legacy support
[17:33] <faze> i will check my bios settings
[17:33] <shmoove> i recently installed ubuntu 12.04 and tried removing unity and unity2d. however, when I restart and go into lightdm, ubuntu 2d is still an option. How do I get rid of this?
[17:34] <OerHeks> !nounity
[17:34] <newroad> Hello, I'm having an issue where no matter what headset I plug in, I have 0 bass. ALSA shows 00 for bass and there is no ability to turn it up. If I unplug the headset (any headset) the bass come through the laptop speakers just fine. I am certain this is a driver issue. If I use a pulseaudio equalizer to emphasize bass, the sound disappears. The laptop is a Samsung Series 7 Chronos.
[17:34] <newroad> AND because if I open AlsaMixer, it shows bass as 00 with headphones plugged in, and I can't turn it up, but if I unplug the headphones, I CAN adjust the bass volume
[17:35] <Catbuntu> Hi
[17:35] <tboat> faze if it isnt bios, find another keyboard/mouse and see if they give you the same problems
[17:36] <newroad> Additionally, the bass works perfectly in Windows
[17:36] <MangoBoy> Hi! All well to All here!!
[17:36] <faze> tboat: sounds good. i tried a ps/2 keyboard, but not different usb devices
[17:37] <faze> tboat: another reason for the 12.04 rollback - that amazon stuff creeped me out
[17:37] <tboat> faze: yeah thats why I use Mint
[17:37] <faze> when i search my computer for 'terminal', i don't need movies that have scenes in airport terminals
[17:37] <tboat> lol
[17:38] <faze> does mint use ubuntu as an upstream?
[17:38] <OerHeks> you can disable that plugin, what's the fuzz anyway?
[17:39] <faze> OerHeks: oh, i did. it was just kind of creepy the first time it happened is all.
[17:39] <faze> i understand why canonical did it and i don't think they're trying to steal my secrets
[17:40] <tboat> i just think it is now "ad-source" rather than open source
[17:40] <OerHeks> faze you make me smile, you are one of the few who do understand the shopping lens.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> what's the factoid for that lens, again?
[17:42] <DJones> !adlens | MonkeyDust
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> tnx
[17:44] <TomyLobo> this thing isnt in my kde, right?
[17:45] <MangoBoy> I gonna ask u As Good as I Can .. I'm try to Install Fancontrol to get a Little Quiet !! I have run PWMconfig, Found the fan, set the Values.. Save:D!  But No.. FanControl still Complains over MissinG Conf file in /etc/fancontrol ...
[17:46] <tomreyn> TomyLobo: it's part of unity, so no. xubuntu / kubuntu / lubuntu won't have it
[17:46] <TomyLobo> awesome
[17:46] <TomyLobo> one more item to scoff at unity users about :)
[17:47] <varikonniemi> when ubuntu asks for the password for a device one can choose from "forget immediately, forget on boot, never forget"
[17:47] <MangoBoy> 11.4
[17:47] <varikonniemi> how can this be controlled later if i want to change never forget to something else?
[17:47] <XRS1> i turned on internet connection sharing and borked the internet. nothing works except IRC (i cant even ping!)
[17:47] <TomyLobo> MangoBoy why on earth?
[17:48] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: are you saying you are using Ubuntu 11.04?
[17:48] <tomreyn> This went end-of-life on October 28, 2012. You should upgrade now.
[17:49] <MangoBoy> TomyLobo, Well Dont You ask Me.. I thought PWMconfig saveD a Config.. but Maybe Another??
[17:49] <XRS1> 12.04 is much better
[17:49] <MangoBoy> Yes!!
[17:50] <MangoBoy>  11.04
[17:50] <tboat> any server people here, #ubuntu-server is just 300 lurkers...
[17:50] <MangoBoy> It isn't even a Folder..!
[17:50] <XRS1> im limited to just apache server
[17:51] <MangoBoy> tomreyn,  It isn't even a Folder..!
[17:51] <tboat> MangoBoy: probably because you attempted to install newer software on an older OS...
[17:51] <milamber> tboat: you can ask, if we can we'll help
[17:51] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: so you have unpatched security holes and they get more every day. plus bugs are no longer fixed. you really should upgrade.
[17:51] <tboat> samba is broken, related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/988509. purged my samba install, reinstalled, can not access my shared folders on my LAN
[17:52] <tomreyn> MangoBoy: upgrading *may* also solve the fan issue.
[17:52] <tboat> the bug says "fixed", however no fix is stated
[17:52] <TomyLobo> MangoBoy i meant why on earth are you using 11.04?
[17:53] <anonymous__> wthot my login
[17:53] <XRS1> do you not see the shares or do you get the failed to download from the server? what happens?
[17:53] <MangoBoy> TomyLobo, tomreyn  Im a little scared to Do That :\ lots of WoorK
[17:53] <TomyLobo> i would be scared to operate an OS without support
[17:53] <MangoBoy> Lots of tools to reinstall
[17:53] <tboat> it doesnt show up when i browse my network, and if i try to connect directly, it can not do so.  I can ssh in and do SFTP.
[17:54] <anonymous__> wthot hack twitter
[17:54] <XRS1> MangoBoy,   Redo Backup is a very simple to use app that will clone your drive just in case anything goes wrong. once you have a backup, you can break it all you want  :P
[17:54] <milamber> tboat: the samba server is also on the box with the ssh and the sftp?
[17:54] <tboat> milamber: yes
[17:55] <tboat> it was working fine up until the most recent kernel update, that forced samba4 to install, which broke it initially.  so i purged samba, installed samba3, but now it doesnt work
[17:55] <anonymous__> give me program wthot cost
[17:55] <MangoBoy> To Next LTS in ..suchacase.. but im in midle of other projeCt and Want a QuieT Fan.. Just..!
[17:55] <faze> tboat: does the samba service start?
[17:56] <tomreyn> tboat: how does samba 3 "not work" now?
[17:56] <XRS1> quiet fan?   wel ur out of luck there. mine hasnt shut up since i upgraded
[17:57] <MangoBoy> But Do Anyone Know What Everybody Knows..???
[17:57] <tboat> tomreyn: my server doesnt appear on my network like it used to...and if i type "samba" into terminal, it says i need to isntall "samba4", but samba4 is broken.  When I do "apt-get install samba" it says samba is already installed...
[17:57] <tomreyn> tboat: which ubuntu release are you on? 12.10?
[17:57] <faze> tboat: what does `smbd --version` give you
[17:58] <tboat> tomreyn: 12.04 server, hardware not supported by 12.10
[17:58] <MangoBoy> But if i just find the file pwm1 under hwmon.. i can Send it Number Direct--> Ass a Start!!
[17:58] <XRS1> tboat,  have you enabled proposed updates?   my samba runs great
[17:58] <tboat> version 3.6.3
[17:58] <xentris> When I choose Ubuntu 12.10 from the website, the download files is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, is this the correct version?
[17:58] <faze> hmm
[17:58] <faze> what about
[17:59] <faze> service smbd status
[17:59] <Transhumanist> No.
[17:59] <faze> and
[17:59] <faze> service nmbd status
[17:59] <tboat> smbd start/running, process 725
[17:59] <xentris> Why does it link to 12.04.1 when selecting 12.10?
[17:59] <Transhumanist> xentris: select a 64-bit version just as a test and confirm it is 12.10
[17:59] <faze> tboat: is nmdb running?
[17:59] <XRS1> because 12.10 isnot good. 1210.1 is
[17:59] <tboat> XRS1 I don't believe I have proposed updates enabled
[17:59] <faze> er, nmbd
[17:59] <Transhumanist> XRS1: re-read his line
[17:59] <AlienPenguin> hi all, i have a really strange issue, on ubuntu 12.04 a software of mine does not link some libraries that are actually passed on the command line, the result is a shared library
[17:59] <tboat> nmbd start/running, process 881
[17:59] <XRS1> tboat,  try it. im running a pre-release
[17:59] <faze> weird
[18:00] <xentris> even 64 bit asks me to download ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[18:00] <AlienPenguin> on other  distribution the same code links the missing libraries
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> ...................
[18:00] <tboat> well that would install samba4 right?
[18:00] <xentris> is something wrong with the site?
[18:00] <Transhumanist> I will try myself and check, xentris
[18:00] <tboat> where is the sources file located again?
[18:00] <AlienPenguin> does anyone have some hints?
[18:00] <MangoBoy> But Does anyone Know Where pwmconfig saves its config files?
[18:00] <tboat> /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:00] <user82> hi. how can i find out the "internal machine identification". like what the computers name is from linux'es point of view? (ie asus ul30vt)
[18:01] <XRS1> yeah its samba4.   you could also manually download an older backdated version from the repo
[18:01] <xentris> only does this for Firefox
[18:01] <faze> tboat: run `testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf`
[18:01] <tomreyn> xentris: you may need to enable javascript. i think they failed to add a <noscript> section there
[18:01] <Transhumanist> xentris: then that's a Firefox cache problem
[18:01] <xentris> yeah could be
[18:01] <Transhumanist> clear your cache, restart, then reload the page
[18:01] <xentris> It's a poorly done javascript problem not Firefox
[18:01] <Transhumanist> anyway
[18:01] <Transhumanist> here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[18:02] <tboat> faze: everything seems to check out after running that
[18:02] <Transhumanist> I choose the torrent downloads personally
[18:02] <Transhumanist> they're faster and don't use Canonical's bandwidth
[18:02] <tboat> faze: yes that fixed it!!! thank you!!
[18:02] <faze> sweet, what did?
[18:02] <tboat> testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:02] <xentris> bittorrent is blocked atm
[18:02] <MangoBoy> Or where hardware sensors have their Representations..
[18:02] <faze> awesome
[18:02] <Transhumanist> that's fine - that link has the other download links, too
[18:02] <tomreyn> xentris: i run into the same effect as you do with javascript disabled.
[18:03] <Transhumanist> or not
[18:03] <MangoBoy> Or how to get to know!
[18:03] <Transhumanist> sorry, this one: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[18:03] <faze> tboat: i use `testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf.master > /etc/samba/smb.conf` to write a smb.conf file
[18:03] <XRS1> there it is
[18:03] <Transhumanist> ah, but that is 12.10 not 12.10.1 sorry
[18:03] <faze> it makes sure your smb.conf is legit then outputs a good version to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:04] <xentris> Should I grab 12.10 or 12.10.1?
[18:04] <faze> i support a samba server over vpn (gross)
[18:04] <tomreyn> xentris: the latter
[18:04] <Transhumanist> I think I have 12.10. But it sounds like 12.10.1 is stable so since it's newer I'd grab that if you can
[18:04] <xangua> Transhumanist: xentris there is no 12.10.1
[18:04] <xentris> thats what I thought
[18:05] <Transhumanist> 12.10 it is!
[18:05] <xentris> I don't see 12.10.1 anyways
[18:05] <xangua> you sure like to turn around a lot :)
[18:05] <Transhumanist> um, I am also getting directed to 12.04.1 on the downloads page
[18:05] <Transhumanist> Canonical's site is broken
[18:05] <tortik> Guys, how to dstribute my app if I write it with self-compiled libraries and what way used in practice with libraries: compile last available version or use ready from repos?
[18:05] <xentris> yes
[18:05] <Transhumanist> Use this link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[18:05] <xangua> Transhumanist: not for me
[18:06] <tboat> Transhumanist: just make sure to check hardware compatibility, killed two installs in the last month because I didnt check to see that my hardware wasnt supported in 12.10 anymore
[18:06] <xentris> They need to fix the javascript
[18:06] <tboat> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> tortik  post it on on a blog or so, then hope someone picks it up
[18:07] <xangua> xentris: the download button works as expected here :)
[18:07] <tboat> tortik either SVN or github
[18:08] <xentris> which browser?
[18:08] <tortik> tboat: what do you mean by cvs?
[18:09] <Petaz> at what time is the end of the world scheduled to air?
[18:09] <tortik> tboat: how can they help me
[18:09] <xangua> !ot | Petaz
[18:10] <milamber> tortik: the way to "distribute" an app in the debian (ubuntu) family of gnu/linux is to create a deb package. you can google: create deb package for more info
[18:10] <Petaz> lol no one uses debs anymore
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> tortik  it is also common to create a ppa
[18:10] <Petaz> its ppas
[18:11] <XRS1> its like if the whole world freaked out because they flipped the calendar page over from december and there was nothing after
[18:11] <tortik> milamber: but what if I use the last available compiled libs from source? Should I put them in the package too if thy are not in repos yet?
[18:11] <tboat> tortik SVN and git are project management/distribution methods.  You can maintain parts of a package and have a central hub for users to pull the installs down, when you update, they get updates.  Or you can create a deb and a PPA repo
[18:11] <Petaz> Merry end of the world :-) err... i meant Christmas
[18:12] <milamber> tortik: yes, but for ease of maintenance i would recommend you try and compile against latest stable versions available in the repos (if you are targeting ubuntu specifically)
[18:12] <TomyLobo> [19:10:42] <Petaz> lol no one uses debs anymore
[18:12] <TomyLobo> what do you download from a ppa?
[18:12] <tboat> Petaz too bad half the world is already on tomorrow, looks like we make it
[18:13] <TomyLobo> tboat wasnt 21st the last day of the world? :)
[18:13] <quantalrabbit> Is there a ubuntu channel geared more towards ubuntu developers.  I have a question regarding patching package source and rebuilding.
[18:13] <tortik> milamber:  that was what I need to be read as answer. Thanks
[18:13] <milamber> quantalrabbit: ubuntu-devs
[18:14] <tboat> TomyLobo I thought it was supposed to end at the start of the 21st?
[18:14] <TomyLobo> oh?
[18:14] <TomyLobo> well, how about mayan time then?
[18:14] <capitaninsaneoh> Hi, I installed Steam deb package and now I'm gettin an error ---GPG error: http://repo.steampowered.com precise InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F24AEA9FB05498B7
[18:14] <_Trullo> tomorrow all hell breaks loose
[18:14] <TomyLobo> still 20th there
[18:15] <daniel> join /ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <tboat> still the 20th for me as well
[18:15] <playaspec> Hi all. I have a server running 12.04 x64 and am trying to update Amanda using packages from the Amanda site as the repo packages are behind.
[18:15] <Guest47153> join /ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <tboat> if i see anyone tomorrow acting a fool or crazy, im going to smack them
[18:15] <Guest47153> join /#ubuntu-uds
[18:15] <milamber> quantalrabbit: sorry, ubuntu-devel
[18:15] <TomyLobo> daniel Guest47153 it's /join #channelname
[18:15] <tomreyn> Guest47153: try /join #ubuntu-uds
[18:16] <xangua> !gpgerr | capitaninsaneoh
[18:16] <playaspec> The server package says it requires xinetd, but when I go to install it, it warns that xinetd conflicts with 'inet-superserver'
[18:16] <quantalrabbit> milamber: thanks!
[18:17] <poz> How do I know if i need a swap partition?
[18:17] <tomreyn> capitaninsaneoh: you didn't import the GPG key, yet. Re-read the instructions page you found this repository on
[18:17] <tboat> do you have less than 1 GB of RAM?
[18:17] <playaspec> I'mm all for removing  inet-superserver and switching to xinetd, but am looking for any gotchas before I proceed.
[18:17] <TomyLobo> playaspec then your package is incompatible
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> poz  have it at hand, you can easily disable it
[18:17] <poz> i have 16 gb ram
[18:17] <tboat> poz no need then
[18:17] <XRS1> if you have less than 2 gigs of ram, you need swqap. otherwise forget swap alltogether
[18:17] <playaspec> TomyLobo: How so?
[18:18] <TomyLobo> was it made for your ubuntu version?
[18:18] <poz> okay great. so can I use gpart to get rid of it and add it to an additional 65 gb of unallocated free space?
[18:18] <capitaninsaneoh> tomreyn, there isn't a key listed just a deb
[18:18] <XRS1> unless your running an MRI machine or some server or something that exceeds 16GB RAM
[18:18] <playaspec> Was which made for my version? Amanda, xinetd?
[18:18] <poz> nope
[18:18] <InspectorCluseau> you can always make a swap file
[18:18] <tomreyn> capitaninsaneoh: tell its author, and try xangua / ubottu 's approach
[18:19] <XRS1> yeah get that space back u dont need swap
[18:19] <TomyLobo> playaspec the amanda packages you're trying to install
[18:19] <poz> can someone run me through how to reformat swap and add it to 65gb of unallocated space?
[18:19] <playaspec> Yes. Ubuntu-12.04, both client and server
[18:20] <playaspec> I'm running the server edition of Ubuntu, no the desktop
[18:20] <TomyLobo> why get rid of swap? how are you going to hibernate without a swap?
[18:20] <XRS1> poz,   open gparted -> right click on the swap space, delete, right click on the partition you want to resize and select resize
[18:20] <DJones> poz: Be aware that if you don't have swap, you won't be able to use hibernate
[18:21] <XRS1> why would you want to hibernate?
[18:21] <XRS1> hibernate doesnt always work properly
[18:21] <playaspec> XRS1: To save the state so you may pick up where you left off
[18:21] <poz> oh i see
[18:21] <TomyLobo> XRS1 ecrypt user?
[18:21] <XRS1> you can save your session without hibernate
[18:22] <poz> I typically just put it to sleep
[18:22] <poz> does ubuntu have sleep?
[18:22] <cgade> Does anyone know how to change the amount of ram going into java applications? (For minecraft).
[18:22] <XRS1> sleep works without swap
[18:22] <TomyLobo> not green dude
[18:22] <poz> then that is fine
[18:22] <TomyLobo> sleep wastes energy
[18:23] <DJones> poz: sleep is normally suspend to ram, hibernate is suspend to disk
[18:23] <TomyLobo> ^ and ram needs energy to sustain
[18:23] <XRS1> green? neither is running a server 24/7
[18:23] <TomyLobo> you usually have a reason to do so, XRS1
[18:24] <TomyLobo> there's no reason for hours of sleepmode
[18:24] <XRS1> this isnt apple or micrsoft, he can do as he pleases
[18:24] <poz> lol it is okay. i found a solution
[18:26] <poz> I wanted to have 65 gb as shared spaced between my win 7 and ubuntu. but i could not make it since swap, root, home, and boot were my partitions. so I created a primaty patition and put the 65 gb shared spaced (ntfs) and swap in it.
[18:26] <poz> sorry, i created an extended partition**
[18:26] <vitimiti> (-.-)/
[18:26] <XRS1> ewwww
[18:27] <poz> why ewww?
[18:27] <XRS1> save your documents before you hibernat
[18:27] <poz> lol in the short term i plan to just use sleep
[18:27] <TomyLobo> XRS1 i always hibernate my windows machine
[18:27] <XRS1> on an ntfs partition?
[18:27] <kevin1961> Hi, anybody know of a good screen recorder that records sound as well via the sound card?
[18:27] <TomyLobo> yes of course
[18:27] <poz> i dont typically hibernate because it takes time for it to come out of hibernate
[18:28] <TomyLobo> with tons of shit on
[18:28] <TomyLobo> sometimes even games when i forget to close them
[18:28] <sjuxax> Hello. I have a server here and almost no logs are being written. No mail.log, no auth.log, etc. I'm assuming this is a syslog problem. I just removed rsyslog with apt-get remove --purge and reinstalled, seeminlgy to no effect. Have restarted, same. Any ideas on the problem here?
[18:28] <poz> my computer can restart in the time it takes to get out of hibernate
[18:28] <XRS1> im not saying hibernate is broken, im just saying if its important, make sure its saved before you do so
[18:28] <poz> so why not just shut off?
[18:29] <TomyLobo> earlier you said precisely that, XRS1
[18:29] <XRS1> i said it doesnt always work
[18:29] <playaspec> so is replacing inetd with xinetd going to break a bunch of stuff?
 hibernate doesnt always work properly
[18:29] <XRS1> exactly
[18:29] <TomyLobo> which is broken
[18:29] <poz> haha
[18:29] <XRS1> whatever dude
[18:30] <TomyLobo> playaspec server?
[18:30] <TomyLobo> or desktop?
[18:30] <poz> I know this is a bad attided but my utilitys are included with my rent, so it does not cost any extra for me to just leave it in sleep... yeah? :P
[18:30] <playaspec> Yes, the server version of 12.04
[18:30] <poz> attitude *
[18:31] <kriskropd> I'm trying to make an ext4 partition with parted, but it says "No Implementation: Support for creating ext4 file systems is not implemented yet." - What do i update to get it working with ext4?
[18:31] <XRS1> your a bad human being and mother earth should smother you  :p (j/k)
[18:31] <TomyLobo> poz hibernate also survives power outages
[18:31] <kevin1961> kazam ok thanks
[18:31] <TomyLobo> or your cat chewing up the cable
[18:31] <poz> tomylobo, only if it is already in hibernation mode
[18:31] <tomreyn> kriskropd: you create the file system manually using the mkfs.ext4 command on a temrinal
[18:32] <TomyLobo> power outages at night of course
[18:32] <poz> typcailly power losses only effect me if i am using it at the time
[18:32] <kriskropd> tomreyn: i know parted can do ext4 though, so why can't i just use that here?
[18:32] <alex007> question, i just installed server version and i can access ftp and ssh from WAN but not httpd. httpd works fine from LAN. all ports are fowarded.
[18:32] <tomreyn> kriskropd: i.e. just create the partition on gparted
[18:32] <TomyLobo> poz it kills your active session
[18:32] <TomyLobo> in sleep mode
[18:32] <playaspec> It's weird, even though it's not installed, there's still a ton of files related to xinetd in /etc
[18:32] <TomyLobo> it's as if you... cut the power cord :)
[18:33] <poz> but i see your point. hib has its uses. I might use it in the future. I still have my 4 gb swap for it.
[18:33] <TomyLobo> say how big is your hard drive?
[18:33] <tomreyn> kriskropd: you can try using parted then. gparted does not always support all parted features immediately, there is usually some delay.
[18:33] <poz> I have 240 ssd, 120 ssd and two 3 tb hard drives
[18:33] <TomyLobo> and you're worrying about 4 gb?
[18:33] <poz> lol no
[18:34] <kriskropd> tomreyn: btw, im not using gparted, im using parted :) and ty anyways
[18:34] <poz> i am worried about being limited to only 4 primary partitions...
[18:34] <tomreyn> playaspec: not installed / removed != purged. you may want to: sudo apt-get ourge xinted\*
[18:34] <TomyLobo> poz logical partitions dude
[18:34] <poz> but i stuck them into an extended partition
[18:35] <poz> lol yeah, first time using them, i see how it works now though
[18:35] <stupidethernet> hey folks, just trying to install ubuntu on a HP ProLiant MicroServer and it simply refuses to find the onboard ethernet.  Both XBMCbuntu and Ubuntu are affected
[18:35] <stupidethernet> it looks like others have not had this problem, and the ethernet cable works when plugged into an adjacent machine
[18:35] <stupidethernet> any ideas?
[18:35] <arya_kevin_wicak> hello all
[18:35] <poz> and that is why i still have my swap space
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lshw -class network doesn't pick up anything
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lcps too
[18:36] <tomreyn> kriskropd: sorry, i misread, but generally parted doesn't consider file system operations to be its job, at least not lately, and it's recommended those are done outside of it.
[18:36] <jost> I'd need some hints on creating multiple virtual machines running in parallel. How do I do that in ubuntu, what vm-software is tested and stable?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> lspci even
[18:36] <stupidethernet> jost... Xen or VirtualBox
[18:36] <Tecan> anyone else have issues installing bootloaders ?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> Tecan, no
[18:36] <jost> stupidethernet, does one of them have a fancy GUI?
[18:36] <stupidethernet> VirtualBox
[18:36] <jost> (never done such stuff before...)
[18:37] <jost> thanks
[18:37] <Tecan> i have to boot with supergrub everytime on 3tb harddrives
[18:37] <stupidethernet> np
[18:38] <playaspec> tomreyn: I want xinetd to satisfy a dependency. Currently, openbsd-inetd is installed, which I guess was the default for the distro
[18:38] <dooglus> when I close lid, netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?
[18:38] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: sounds like you may need a binary firmware blob, or vendors drivers
[18:38] <milamber> stupidethernet: can you pastebin: lspci -v
[18:39] <stupidethernet> not easily, there's no network access ! ;)
[18:39] <tomreyn> playaspec: that's unrelated to whether or not a package is in status purged or just removed
[18:39] <stupidethernet> there is NOTHING to do with networks there
[18:40] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, others haven't had to, which seems strange
[18:40] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: true. have you cheked syslog, bios?
[18:40] <milamber> stupidethernet: then run it and tell us exactly what the ethernet controller is identified as
[18:41] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: maybe the on-board nics were disabled by the previous owner since they had extnerla nics attached.
[18:42] <stupidethernet> milamber, there is no mention of ethernet anywhere in lspci
[18:43] <XRS1> i turned on internet connection sharing and borked the internet. nothing works except IRC (i cant even ping!)
[18:43] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: so it will be disabled in bios probably
[18:43] <XRS1> is this normal?  :P
[18:43] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, had a look and couldn't see any option to disable it :/
[18:43] <alex007> question, i just installed server version and i can access ftp and ssh from WAN but not httpd. httpd works fine from LAN. all ports are fowarded.
[18:43] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: did you buy this new or refurbished or used?
[18:44] <alex007> what could be causing this?
[18:44] <usr13> alex007: "all ports"?
[18:44] <alex007> 21 22 80
[18:44] <stupidethernet> new
[18:44] <stupidethernet> and the ethernet worked with windows
[18:44] <alex007> all needed ports
[18:44] <XRS1> alex007,  incorrect NAT routing could cause that
[18:44] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: can you tell the exact model # ?
[18:45] <b14d3> alex007: Did httpd work previously?
[18:45] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: this really lists nothing at all? lspci -nnv | grep -i ether
[18:45] <alex007> new setup
[18:45] <alex007> it works using lan ip
[18:45]  * Sm0kEz d-_-b JK - You & I :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK0FQPIsU38
[18:45] <alex007> doesnt using external ip
[18:45] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, yep... absolutely nadda!  gobsmacked tbh
[18:46] <alex007> but other services do work
[18:46] <XRS1> im suspecting firewall or NAT issue
[18:46] <b14d3> alex007: Are you sure that the port is open for your isp? Inbound 80 is not always.
[18:46] <dooglus> when I close its lid, my netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?
[18:46] <stupidethernet> it's a friends machine, all we know is it is a HP ProLiant MicroServer
[18:46] <XRS1> true, try binding to a diff port other than 80
[18:46] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: maybe there's something like "unknwon device"? lspci -nnv | grep -i device
[18:47] <alex007> going to try another port
[18:47] <TomyLobo> i thought only windows had those
[18:47] <XRS1> :P
[18:47] <lucido> do you know a simple way to wipe an ubuntu system
[18:47] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, 2 secs... just in bios... will look once back in
[18:47] <ufk> hi
[18:47] <Evil_Eric> simple rm -r /*
[18:48] <XRS1> use a live USB or CD (or windows disk) and erase the thing
[18:48] <dooglus> lucido: DBAN?
[18:48] <dr_willis> lucido: dd can delete the whole hd.
[18:48] <dooglus> Evil_Eric: that doesn't work
[18:48] <Evil_Eric> oh
[18:48] <dooglus> Evil_Eric: I tried it once accidentally.  only lost half my files
[18:48] <Evil_Eric> well damn
[18:49] <XRS1> lucido,  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> Evil_Eric  in a terminal, type apt-cache show wipe
[18:49] <dooglus> I don't think wipe will work too well for wiping a running system either
[18:50] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: this should tell you a bit more on this system: sudo dmidecode | grep -EiA10 '^(System|Base Board|Chassis) Information'
[18:50] <dooglus> best to boot into a different OS.  I suggest DBAN: http://www.dban.org/
[18:50] <Evil_Eric> MonkeyDust, its ok im not trying to wipre my system i was just thinking that rm -rf /* would wipe out everything
[18:50] <dr_willis> well.. it wont run after you whipe it. ;)
[18:50] <milamber> Evil_Eric: it won't anymore
[18:51] <Greatmzn> why use linux?
[18:51] <TJ-> I have a remote server upgrade from 10.04.1 to 12.04.1 that, whilst restarting openvpn, lost the connection. When the connection was regained some pending key-presses caused the "do-release-upgrade" screen session to abort but has left "dpkg ... --status-fd 10 --configure ..." running and probably awaiting user input for some config file. How can I correctly reconnect to that?
[18:51] <Evil_Eric> i actually have my system stable the way i want it DO NOT wanna change anything
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> Greatmzn  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[18:52] <Evil_Eric> if i could freeze all my updates and just run it like this i would
[18:52] <h00k> Greatmzn: it's not entirely Ubuntu related, but consider asking in ##linux
[18:52] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, cheers dude... bloody bios setting... sorry for wasting your time!
[18:52] <tomreyn> stupidethernet: np, glad you found it. it's weird to be deactivated by default though.
[18:53] <stupidethernet> tomreyn, yeah, pretty weird!
[18:53] <tboat> hey all, anyone around who happens to have mod/admin abilities on launchpad?  have some guys trolling/hate spamming a bug
[18:54] <Pici> tboat: You can ask about it in #launchpad
[18:54] <ikonia> the guys in #ubuntu-bug may also be able to do something
[18:54] <tboat> Pici: thanks :)
[18:54] <dooglus> I asked: when I close its lid, my netbook suspends, but crashes on resume.  if however I suspend using "sudo pm-suspend --quirk-vbestate-restore" it suspends and resumes ok.  how can I get that to run when I close the lid?  is there a script to edit perhaps?  Answer: put a file in /etc/pm/config.d saying   ADD_PARAMETERS="--quirk-vbestate-restore"
[18:54] <rushboy> hello when I issue the make command after running autogen.sh file , I get this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452996/plain/ . Can anyone please help me with this ?
[18:55] <tomreyn> TJ-: i don't think you can, really. or wouldn't know how either. make sure you use GNU screen or similar next time. for now, i'd either wait for the process to complete or kill it, then containue the upgrade manually.
[18:58] <tboat> rushboy: need to git-add the directory
[18:58] <hilo> hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if there is a driver or built in support for Cisco USB Console?
[18:58] <hilo> I am in the DC and my usb to serial died :(
[18:59] <rushboy> tboat: I issued the command git add .
[18:59] <tboat> rushboy: and then got that error?
[18:59] <rushboy> tboat: yes
[19:00] <rushboy> tboat: well i was getting an error saying the index file was not large enough , then I used the git add . command and then i got the error
[19:00] <tboat> rushboy: it cant find 'dictionaries' so double check that it has been added
[19:01] <TomyLobo> "git add ." is usually a bad idea :)
[19:02] <tboat> i dont know if that is a common 'dictionaries' for git or specific to whatever your project is, if it is part of git, i would reinstall.  otherwise that 'dictionaries' file/folder has not been added correctly
[19:02] <TJ-> tomreyn: screen is used by do-release-upgrade alreadt; it was the screen session that terminated. I had captured the cmdline for it previously, but using that to try to regain control doesn't work
[19:04] <cakeboss> Hey guys. I am looking for kernel headers 3.5.0-21-generic. Anyone know where I can find a download? Google is not acting like a friend right now :/
[19:04] <tomreyn> hilo: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x356.html note the 1st paragraph on moduiule load options
[19:04] <tomreyn> hilo: and i've not done it before.
[19:04] <usr13> cakeboss: The package manager will get them for you.
[19:05] <JRThump> hi, i'm getting "This version of Steam is currently in closed beta.", although I installed the steam-latest.deb today? Is there some way around this problem?
[19:05] <cakeboss> usr13: thanks
[19:05] <cakeboss> usr13: How do I find the package manager? I am not used to unity
[19:06] <tomreyn> TJ-: the screen session terminated? how would this happen? i guess you need to kill the dpkg process because dpkg will be locked now, preventing any modifications.
[19:07] <kostkon> JRThump, right click on its icon and select any option from the quicklist
[19:07] <TJ-> tomreyn: I was trying to regain control of the dropped ssh session when it appeared to be terminally disconnected... I suspect some of the control-codes must have killed the process that launched the remote screen :s
[19:08] <usr13> cakehero: install build-essential
[19:08] <Sab3r> anyone happen to have any script or something how I could change many .jpg pictures' names to, for example, picture1.jpg picture2.jpg picture3.jpg etc
[19:08] <usr13> cakehero: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:08] <magma> what's the shortcut to show the spinning cub with all my desktops in unity?
[19:08] <magma> cube*
[19:08] <tomreyn> TJ- :-/ bad luck
[19:09] <JRThump> kostkon: I see that, what do I go in this menu?
[19:09] <angelpossum> how do you switch nicks
[19:09] <xangua> magma: cube plugin in unity is a bad combination :)
[19:09] <cakehero> usr13 cakeboss left =/
[19:09] <cakehero> I think that was for him
[19:09] <TJ-> tomreyn: yeah. I'm working through the Python release scripts to find out where they launch the screen/dpkg stuff since there's a while /tmp/XXX/ directory with in-progress files in it. Should be possible to get it to pick up where it left off
[19:09] <magma> xangua, why
[19:09] <angelpossum> bkbm,b,mb,bb,jbkjgbkgbkjgvbkhvhkjvkgvkjvjkhv
[19:10] <usr13> cakehero: Oh, sorry...
[19:10] <angelpossum> am i a ghost here
[19:10] <Tech-1> boo
[19:10] <usr13> agile_netvark: /nick
[19:10] <kostkon> JRThump, you are using unity?
[19:10] <usr13> agile_netvark: /nick new-nick
[19:10] <b14d3> Close usr13 lol. angelpossum /nick [nick]
[19:10] <JRThump> kostkon: yes
[19:11] <kostkon> JRThump, add the steam icon in your launcher, then right click on it
[19:11] <tomreyn> TJ-: good luck, i haven't tried this before. also do-release-upgrade didn't spawn a screen process last time i used it, so my info may be outdated anyways.
[19:11] <usr13> b14d3: Not close, exact  ;0
[19:11] <JRThump> kostkon: yes I have done so. I see the popup menu with different alternatives, what do I choose?
[19:11] <tomreyn> !patience | angelpossum
[19:12] <b14d3> usr13: I meant your mention :) You tab-completed the wrong name twice lol
[19:12] <cakehero> usr13 no problem, sometimes I confuse you with usr12 and user14
[19:12] <usr13> b14d3: oh
[19:12] <tvfae> hi I wonder ir the fglrx-updates in repo is updated coz iit's show same version as fglrx thkx
[19:13] <kostkon> JRThump, choose one at random it doesnt matter :P
[19:13] <usr13> ... twice in a row ... pretty bad ...
[19:13] <JRThump> kostkon: Ok I am now in a Settings-window with various tabs.
[19:13] <XRS1> tvfae,  is fglrx working for you (just out of curiosity)
[19:14] <kostkon> JRThump, nwo you can use it freely
[19:15] <dave101010> steam for linux
[19:16] <JRThump> kostkom: hmm, now it wont start at all :-( maybe I should remove it completely and start from the beginning. I installed some packets a couple of weeks ago but never got into the closed beta group...
[19:18] <kostkon> JRThump, pruge it, and also if you want delete the steam folder that's in your home, but beware you'll lose everything. games, settings etc.
[19:18] <kostkon> purge*
[19:19] <JRThump> kostkom: Ok, so I "apt-get purge steam" and delete "~/.steam". And then reinstall? I think I did that but somehow it still remembered my steam user account name?
[19:19] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:20] <tvfae> hi
[19:20] <kostkon> not ~/.steam, i am not sure if there is such a folder, i meant ~/Steam :P
[19:20] <kostkon> JRThump, ^^
[19:21] <JRThump> kostkon: Oh, well must be som legacy from before, cause I'm pretty sure it was called .steam :-) Anyway thanks will try!
[19:21] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[19:21] <tomreyn> kostkon: check also for presence of ~/.config/steam and ~/.config/Steam
[19:21] <lucido> XRS1, would that work on a runnig system?
[19:21] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[19:22] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[19:22] <XRS1> lucido,  i think so. i accidentally erased my /home partition with that yesterday
[19:23] <XRS1> some one said dd would do it, and thats the dd command to do it
[19:23] <lucido> XRS1, I see, but what about / and swap
[19:24] <lucido> and rewrite
[19:24] <XRS1> hda is probably where you keep all of your partitions so yeah
[19:24] <TJ-> tomreyn: Good news. After killing the safety sshd on port 1022 and remaining stray dpkg and other processes obviously associated with do-release-upgrade, I was able to restart it simply by editing /etc/lsb-release. It seems that is updated to show 12.04/Precise before the upgrade is complete, which causes re-runs of do-releae-upgrade to report "no new release". Editing that file to report 10.04.1/Lucid has allowed do-release-upgrade to restart and it appears to have p
[19:24] <TJ-> icked up where it left off with dpkg --configure config questions
[19:25] <lucido> XRS1, hope it wond crashű
[19:25] <XRS1> it should wipe everything but look like the system works untill you start trying to click on stuff
[19:25] <JRThump> Stupid question, is there a PPA for steam (guess not since guides say download packet through web)...?
[19:26] <tomreyn> TJ-: that's good to know, thanks for sharing
[19:26] <TJ-> JRThump: No, but Valve have their own repository now
[19:26] <TeamRocket1233c> This may be a retarded question, but there ever going to be an official Cinnamon spin and MATE spin of Ubuntu?
[19:27] <TJ-> tomreyn: Now I've done that, it's reminded me a similar thing happened to me a couple years ago and I think I fixed it the same way that time too. Wish I'd remembered that before I figured out the fix a second time!
[19:27] <JRThump> TJ-: Repository? Here comes an even more stupid q: Is that something you add in software manager?
[19:27] <XRS1> there will be if you make it.   anything is possible, just need people to take charge and run with it
[19:27] <microcode> I'm having an issue with ubuntu 12.10 and dependency solving in apt right now, it's faling to solve dependencies automatically and instead complaining that they're not already installed
[19:28] <microcode> (I'm trying to install libglu1-mesa-dev and other libglu1-mesa-* packages
[19:28] <microcode> and they're all failing
[19:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: rediscovering old fixes is a common experience to me, too ;)
[19:28] <TJ-> JRThump: It's what in GUI terms is called a "Software Source" - can be added from the Software Centre/Edit/Software Sources menu I believe. You'd need to find out the GPG signing key too, but I downloaded from their repo this morning
[19:29] <JRThump> TJ-: Ok thx, I guess I'll be fine with the .deb from the web for now :-)
[19:30] <milamber> microcode: can you pastebin it?
[19:36] <TeamRocket1233c> Also, are MATE and Cinnamon ever going to get in the offical repos anyways?
[19:37] <mikro_> Hi guys, How can i turn into root (ubuntu 11.04)? I can't using $su or $su -  ??
[19:37] <newroad> Question: I have VirtualBox, the latest version, which I updated from a previous version. I had previously installed the Guest Additions. After updating, my Guest Additions are still the old version
[19:37] <newroad> is there a way to update Guest Additions? When I reclick Install Guest Additions, nothing happens.
[19:38] <tomreyn> !sudo | mikro_
[19:38] <Guest28153> Hello
[19:39] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, no, those are mint-stuff, you can add their ppa's to get them, but are unsupported here
[19:39] <Guest28153> i've got today surprise in my kubuntu os, when all my root disk was eated (there was no space)
[19:39] <mikro_> thanks ubottu, but I know that i can use sudo,  but i want to be root user in order not to type sudo every command
[19:40] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Poking around and saw something about Cinnamon being included in 13.04, but not sure if that's accurate or not.
[19:40] <tomreyn> newroad: guest additions aren't updated with every new version of virtualbox. the 'install guest additionas' menu option basically just mounts the iso image in the guest's virtual cd-rom drive, so you both need to have such a drive and have auto-play work or access the inserted virtual media using a file browser from within the guest.
[19:40] <Guest28153> after discovering problem i found command to see folders in my home folder
[19:40] <llutz> mikro_: sudo -i      gives you a full featured root-shell
[19:40] <Guest28153> du -hsx * | sort -rh | head -10
[19:41] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:41] <Guest28153> 13G     VirtualBox VMs
[19:41] <Guest28153> 5,2G    Downloads
[19:41] <Guest28153> 1,8G    Desktop
[19:41] <Guest28153> 660M    QSTK
[19:41] <Guest28153> 372M    Documents
[19:41] <FloodBot1> Guest28153: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <Guest28153> this is my output
[19:42] <Guest28153> if i count space it no more then 22 Gb
[19:42] <mikro_> wow, It works, Thank you ubottu :)
[19:42] <sebsebseb> What's the name of the proccess for the additional hardware drivers program in Ubuntu?
[19:42] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: And hey, if Fedora can include the two DEs in its official repos.
[19:42] <dreinull> I connect my mac mini ppc lubuntu to a samsung tv which supports 1920x1080 but it always complains about an unsupported resolution. Only thing that works is 1280x1024 which is basically only good with 4:3
[19:42] <Guest28153> but home dir property shows 32
[19:42] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, i was wrong, cinnamon will be available in raring, i stick to kde > http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/cinnamon
[19:42] <Guest28153> Gb
[19:42] <Guest28153> why it could be?
[19:43] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: I'm just curious to try Cinnamon, but prefer Unity.
[19:43] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, mate i have no info that it will be
[19:43] <Guest28153> where is my 12 Gb
[19:43] <tomreyn> mikro_: sudo -i
[19:43] <tomreyn> oh i'm late
[19:43] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: At least Cinnamon will be in 13.04, and TBH, if I were to use a GNOME 2-like DE, I'd prefer Cinnamon over MATE anyways.
[19:43] <OerHeks> Guest28153, post again on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:43] <mikro_> thank you tomreyn :)
[19:44] <tomreyn> :)
[19:44] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Now as for a more GNOME 3-like DE, gotta go with Unity.
[19:44] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: jockey-gtk
[19:45] <OerHeks> TeamRocket1233c, did you try pure gnome3 also ?
[19:45] <OerHeks> !nounity
[19:45] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: you sure? not using Ubuntu  now.  The one for installing the NIivda propritary driver I am on about.
[19:45] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: In F16, yes.
[19:45] <sebsebseb> !info jocky-gtk
[19:45] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Not the biggest fan, a little too clunky for me. lol
[19:45] <sebsebseb> hmm?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: also I am on about 12.10 by the way
[19:46] <treitter> does anyone know the names of the ubuntu-online-accounts packages? Is it just gnome-control-center-signon?
[19:46] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: i'm sure, and you had a typo
[19:46] <sebsebseb> oh
[19:46] <sebsebseb> !info jockey-gtk
[19:46] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: Have thought about giving it another shot though.
[19:47] <root__> hi
[19:47] <sebsebseb> yep that's probably it :)  GNOME Shell and so on should work better with that driver installed, in the GNOME Remix on another computer here :d
[19:47] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: thanks :)
[19:48] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: See if it's improved over time since I messed with it in Fedora 16.
[19:48] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:48] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: actually i seem to have been wrong, software-properties is the new handler
[19:48] <Guest28153> please help guys
[19:48] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: is that a package to?
[19:49] <tomreyn> !info software-properties-gtk | sebsebseb
[19:49] <poz> hello all, I was hear earlier with some boot problems. They are much worse now. I seem to have lost the ability to boot into ubuntu
[19:49] <TeamRocket1233c> OerHeks: I know Unity's improved over time from the piece-of-junk it started out as in Natty to the really nice DE it is in Quantal.
[19:49] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: that looks like its for the repos going by the info
[19:50] <magez> what are the chances http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3917&dl=1#sp if this fully works with ubuntu 64bit?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: I guess its one of them though :)
[19:52] <poz> when I go into grub customizer, all I have is a windows 7 loader
[19:52] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453134/ - i'm on 12.10
[19:52] <poz> no ubuntu
[19:52] <poz> does anyone know how to get it back? I have tryed boot-repair
[19:52] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: why did you show me that?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: oh ok now I see why
[19:53] <angelpossum> how do i log in to my account
[19:53] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: ok :)
[19:53] <sebsebseb> ok thanks looks like I'll have to install that into the 12.10 GNOME Remix then and then should be able to get the propritary NIvida driver  installed easier I guess :)
[19:54] <poz> I am in trouble
[19:54] <InspectorCluseau> poz ... what boot-repair?
[19:54] <poz> does anyone know how to rebuild grub from scratch?
[19:54] <dr_willis> what grub custom izer?
[19:55] <rafajafar> Hey I've bee trying to download the Ubuntu ISO and it's just not happening on any computer on any browser.
[19:55] <rafajafar> it literally just keeps spinning
[19:55] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:55] <Guest28153> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453115/
[19:55] <poz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:55] <Guest28153> рудз зды
[19:55] <Guest28153> sorry, help pls
[19:55] <poz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183
[19:56] <angelpossum> hey ):
[19:56] <angelpossum> wopps wrong channel
[19:56] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: maybe software-properties is already there, ah well, I'll find out when there again :d
[19:56] <sebsebseb> on that computer
[19:57] <sebsebseb> angelpossum: hi anyway
[19:57] <rafajafar> does anyone know what to do? I cannot get the ISO to download. It wont connect to the mirrors or something.
[19:57] <poz> i am scared that if i turn off my computer i will never get into ubuntu again
[19:57] <rafajafar> this is the download link: http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=latest
[19:57] <milamber> rafajafar: try the torrent?
[19:58] <milamber> rafajafar: and i just copypasta'd that into chromium and it immediatedly started downloading
[19:58] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: i would expect software-properties-gzk to be installed by default, yes
[19:58] <rafajafar> that is absolutely weird
[19:58] <rafajafar> does it use location based mirroring
[19:58] <usr13> poz: So, what exactly, is your situation?
[19:58] <poz> basically ubuntu does not show up in grub
[19:59] <tomreyn> Guest28153: you probably have some dot files / dot directories. * does not match them.
[19:59] <usr13> poz: What version of Ubuntu to you have installed?
[19:59] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: maybe not for the Ubuntu 12.10 GNOME Remix,  since the whole point is to take 12.10 and then make it well much more GNOME like
[19:59] <poz> 12.04.1 lts
[19:59] <usr13> poz: Fresh install?
[20:00] <poz> kinda, I have been playing with it for about a day now
[20:00] <rafajafar> yes it does
[20:00] <usr13> poz: and.......?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: so I had to insall Firefox and LibreOffice myself for example
[20:00] <rafajafar> it's trying to connect to ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu
[20:00] <rafajafar> and it's failing
[20:00] <rafajafar> :-/
[20:00] <DaveR> if I want to setup a TFTP server for PXE booting do I also have to run a DHCP server?
[20:00] <minderasr> greetings
[20:00] <LuizAngioletti> Hello there!
[20:00] <poz> and now i broke grub
[20:00] <microcode> milamber: http://pastebin.ca/2295353 sorry for the wait
[20:00] <minderasr> any forum admins about?
[20:00] <microcode> it's being a real bitch.
[20:01] <usr13> poz: What exactly did you do to break grub?
[20:01] <usr13> poz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[20:01] <poz> i think boot-repair did it
[20:01] <Guest28153> KUbuntu 12.04 my OS
[20:01] <LuizAngioletti> I've followed the recommendations from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server, and I can update the apt cache in my client machine, When I try to install something, it returns error code 100.
[20:01] <LuizAngioletti> Can anyone help?
[20:01] <angelpossum> hey what does it mean when i send a message to someone or on the chat screen and after i send the message it says this:   #defocus-uncensored :Cannot send to channel. is this normal
[20:01] <tomreyn> sebsebseb: okay, but those are applications, the APT repository managment utility is more system-like, i would expect it to be installed already on any distro which is based on ubuntu and uses gtk.
[20:01] <Ziber> What's the easiest way to make a kernel default for booting in grub?
[20:01] <poz> i am not sure how to use it so I was just messing around with it. now it only finds my windows 7 bootloader, not ubuntu
[20:02] <sebsebseb> tomreyn: oh ok :)
[20:02] <rafajafar> can someone tell me where to find the torrent, the site's broken
[20:02] <usr13> poz: What exactly were you trying to repair?
[20:03] <poz> I was having some other problems with windows 7 not loading from grub
[20:03] <milamber> rafajafar: the site is not broken. go to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop    right click on get ubuntu 12.10 and then click save target as
[20:03] <rafajafar> yeah the site's broken brother
[20:03] <tomreyn> rafajafar: try to download with wget, and report the error message if any.
[20:03] <Aww>  
[20:03] <rafajafar> if you can't download because a mirror is down, that's broken
[20:03] <usr13> poz: See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[20:04] <jKoudYs> Is there a way I can make a select run against different tables if some value's in a certain range? e.g. select from table1 is key <= 10000, table2 if key > 10000
[20:04] <usr13> poz: What other problems?
[20:04] <milamber> rafajafar: i followed the link you gave me and downloaded the iso
[20:04] <jKoudYs> err wrong channel..
[20:04]  * michagogo has a suggestion
[20:04] <michagogo> The torrent downloads should have the regular download as a webseed in the torrent file
[20:04] <rafajafar> milamber: I understand, here's the thing
[20:04] <rafajafar> that url redirects to a mirror
[20:04] <angelpossum> can anyone solve my problem
[20:05] <newroad> Hmmm, I have an Optimus laptop using Bumblebee (dual video cards). When I open Virtual Box settings it only recognizes 128MB of video memory (the size of the onboard graphics). But the dedicated graphics actually has 2GB of memory. I've tried launching Virtualbox with "optirun virtualbox" but it still only sees 128MB. What could cause this?
[20:05] <tim-ct> hi all Please can someone have a look at my firewall config. There is an error somewhere http://pastebin.com/uMHh6Vt7
[20:05] <usr13> poz: At any rate, the information at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub  should get you going again.
[20:05] <milamber> rafajafar: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[20:06] <microcode> milamber: any idea as to what may be wrong? or are you just as stumped as I?
[20:06] <usr13> tim-ct: So, what's it not doing?
[20:06] <tim-ct> usr13 cant see thru it
[20:08] <milamber> microcode: do: sudo apt-get clean
[20:08] <michagogo> Who would I go to to file that sugestion?
[20:08] <usr13> tim-ct: So you are trying to share a conection through your ubuntu box?
[20:09] <microcode> milamber: I have, and a number of other "solutions"
[20:09] <microcode> to no avail as you might assume...
[20:09] <tim-ct> usr13 yes
[20:09] <microcode> the issue seems to be that these mesa-related packages, in the form that's been downloaded, are causing cyclic dependencies
[20:09] <milamber> microcode: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:09] <agliodbs> 12.04 doesn't seem to support an LSI megaraid card which is supported by both RHEL and Gentoo.  Where do I report this/search for previously reported bugs?
[20:09] <michagogo> This isn't set +zq *!*@*, is it?
[20:09] <microcode> milamber: that one as well..
[20:10] <agliodbs> I've looked on "reporting bugs", but that just leads me around in circles
[20:10] <billybob_> my Ubuntu server is failing to send to send email's. Im trying to find my error logs?
[20:10] <Ziber> With 12.04, whats the proper way in /etc/sudoers to be able to execute sudo commands without a password?
[20:11] <milamber> microcode: then i would try and install the packages one at a time, also looking into if you can add the devs you need
[20:12] <pigi> ciao
[20:12] <pigi> !list
[20:12] <usr13> tim-ct: Not sure what I'm looking at here:  http://pastebin.com/uMHh6Vt7  Can you explain?
[20:13] <AbortD> gnome vs kde anyone?
[20:13] <milamber> microcode: and if you are still getting errors pastebin apt-get check
[20:14] <tim-ct> usr13 That is the interface,iptables -L and v4 files dumps
[20:14] <tomreyn> !poll | AbortD
[20:14] <michagogo> We just missed 20:12 20/12/2012 :-(
[20:14] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: GMOME, as that's essentially what I'm running.
[20:15] <billybob_> Im trying to trouble shoot sending emails. I forgot how I got into my error log. I went in there about a week ago and had to remove my ip from Spamhaus. Its not listed now but still not sending. how do i find the error logs? php error logs
[20:15] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Unity as the shell, but still GNOME under the hood.
[20:15] <AbortD> is there a way to strip unity?
[20:15] <milamber> !nounity
[20:15] <tim-ct> billybob  /var/log/maillog
[20:15] <erncic> Ziber:    try something like %sudo     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[20:16] <AbortD> kde sorry for bugging you all thanks
[20:16] <AbortD> kde it is*
[20:16] <erncic> Ziber: That should allow everything without a password.... not a great idea
[20:16] <phibxr> !flamewar | AbortD
[20:16] <phibxr> Could have worked...
[20:16] <AbortD> lol
[20:16] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Install alternative desktops, such as Xfce, LXDE, GNOME Shell, KDE, MATE, or Cinnamon, and use those instead of Unity.
[20:17] <Ziber> erncic: my account doesn't have a password, only using ssh keys
[20:17] <phibxr> Ubottu claims no knowledge of such a thing as a flamewar. For the first time ever, I doubt him.
[20:17] <tomreyn> billybob_: php error logs usually go into the web servers' error logs. they don't have to, but it's the default setup. all system logs are usually stored somewhere below /var/log/
[20:17] <AbortD> TeamRocket1233c doesnt that involve installing all their libs? i tried that once and had every kde and gnome program
[20:17] <microcode> milamber: the issue is partially that there are cyclic dependencies, it says it depends on one package for example, but that package uponwhich it depends, also has the aforementioned package as a dependency
[20:17] <tomreyn> billybob_: you should also inpect your mail servers' logs, located in the same directory
[20:17] <microcode> would it be safe to force-install both ?
[20:17] <billybob_> im in my mail.log now thanks, im digging into the problem
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Yes.
[20:18] <milamber> phibxr: ubottu is a she
[20:18] <tomreyn> billybob_: finally, if you're trying to send mail to other mailservers from your home then you'Re doing something wrong.
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Also, you have to add the MATE or Cinnamon libs as well, as neither are in the official repos currently.
[20:18] <billybob_> im on a hosted VPS
[20:18] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Although Cinnamon will be in the official repos starting with 13.04.
[20:19] <milamber> microcode: there's always inherent danger when forcing things, but in my experience apt-get protects the important stuff
[20:19] <tomreyn> billybob_: okay that should be fine
[20:19] <Sargun> Are there any maverick mirrors?
[20:19] <billybob_> there is an insane amount of logs in here
[20:19] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: No idea on MATE, and there is an unofficial GNOME Shell spin for Ubuntu as well.
[20:19] <TeamRocket1233c> AbortD: Ubuntu GNOME Remix.
[20:19] <milamber> !maverick | sargun
[20:20] <Ziber> How can I make a directory mount at boot?
[20:20] <TeamRocket1233c> !lucid
[20:20] <usr13> tim-ct: Ok, well here is what your firewall script probably should look like, (less forwarding):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453189/
[20:20] <milamber> !fstab | Ziber
[20:20] <TeamRocket1233c> !karmic
[20:20] <tomreyn> billybob_: be sure to have your VPS provider set a reverse hostname on your servers' IP address. search wikipedia for "forward confirmed reverse DNS" for details.
[20:21] <milamber> !bot | TeamRocket1233c
[20:21] <DJones> Sargun: You could look here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:21]  * michagogo slaps the virtualbox installer around a bit with a large trout
[20:21] <Sargun> DJones: I see that they have the ISOs there, but where can I get the repos?
[20:22] <milamber> Sargun: there are no more repos, maverick is eol
[20:22] <TeamRocket1233c> Lucid will be EOL in April, along with Oneiric.
[20:23] <TeamRocket1233c> Sargun: You'd be better off going with Precise or newer.
[20:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !precise | Sargun
[20:23] <billybob_> there is a ton of activity in here, Think my server might be spamming people
[20:23] <AndChat330644> J arch-linux
[20:24] <tim-ct> usr13   thak you
[20:24] <TeamRocket1233c> AndChat330644: Arch is good if you have the time to set it up.
[20:24] <DJones> Sargun: This may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/118674/are-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-repositories-going-to-be-removed-or-deleted-af See the link ablut halfway down, that explains how to use the old releases as a repo if necessary
[20:25] <tomreyn> billybob_: http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/
[20:25] <qwebirc94257> Hello.  I want to know if there is a command line utility to compare file metadata (access/modification/creation timestamps, owner, group, permisions etc.) in addition to file content.  GNU `diff' seems to only compare file content and does not seem to have the ability to compare the file metadata (although I might be mistaken on this)...
[20:25] <usr13> tim-ct: Correction:  That last line, may be wrong path, /usr/sbin/iptables prolly should be /usr/share/iptables or just iptables
[20:25] <poz> ever fee like every time you touch your computer you make it worse?
[20:25] <billybob_> ohh yea, this is bad http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/108.171.201.222.html
[20:27] <tomreyn> billybob_: no, not really, just your reverse record is badly set
[20:27] <poz> I am scared
[20:28] <TeamRocket1233c> Rhythmbox, Banshee, or VLC?
[20:28] <michagogo> !latest
[20:28] <michagogo> Not what I wanted
[20:28] <michagogo> !animalname
[20:28] <ikonia> michagogo: what do you want ?
[20:28] <michagogo> What's 12.10 names?
[20:28] <michagogo> named*
[20:28] <ikonia> quantel
[20:28] <milamber> !12.10
[20:28] <poz> cries
[20:28] <Pici> !codenames
[20:29]  * michagogo gives ubottu a cookie
[20:29] <ikonia> michagogo: ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Andria> hi all, do you know how can i modify the top tray on unity under compiz-decorator ? I would like to have transparency. Ty
[20:29] <ikonia> michagogo: pretty obvious, lookin ubuntu.com to find out the latest distro
[20:29] <michagogo> Went there, didn't notice it
[20:29] <poz> I guess i could just restart my computer and see what happends
[20:30] <ariell> hi,
[20:30] <ariell> is there a way to launch the standby/hibernate commands from the commandline ?
[20:30] <poz> before ubuntu i thought stable was a objective descriptive term
[20:30] <zgnuu> Is it possible to uninstall the xubuntu session but not the xfce session?
[20:31] <billybob_>  Dec 19 16:24:29 108-171-201-222 postfix/smtp[21397]: 8C123160A12: to=<xxxxx@yahoo.com>, relay=mta7.am0.yahoodns.net[74.6.136.244]:25, delay=1.5, delays=0.01/0/0.16/1.3, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)
[20:31] <Andria> How can i change the Unity Global Menu ?
[20:31] <billybob_> doesnt tell me much hmm
[20:31] <llutz> billybob_: done " status=sent (250 ok dirdel)"
[20:32] <michagogo> Is there somewhere to file a suggestion? Namely, to add the normal servers as webseeds in the .torrents on ubuntu.com
[20:32] <milamber> zgnuu: can you be more specific?
[20:32] <tomreyn> billybob_: ^ means: this outbound mail was passed on to yahoo successfully
[20:32] <bobweaver> Is there a way in a *desktop* that I can have a use a command with out opening it up in a terminal ?
[20:32] <zgnuu> I recently installed xubuntu in Ubuntu 12.04
[20:32] <zgnuu> Now I'm getting 2 sessions that came from that xubuntu and xfce
[20:32] <ikonia> bobweaver: alt+f2
[20:32] <usr13> tim-ct: Correction:  That last line, may be wrong path, /usr/sbin/iptables prolly should be /sbin/iptables or just iptables
[20:32] <bobweaver> ikonia,  *DESKTOPFILE*
[20:33] <ikonia> bobweaver: be aware though there will be no shell enviornment setup
[20:33] <zgnuu> I'd like only the xfce session to be available from the drop down menu, so I want to uninstall xuubntu
[20:33] <RollinV2> bobweaver, also some of the text editors have built in terminals
[20:33] <bobweaver> ikonia,  like under /usr/share/applications/
[20:33] <ikonia> bobweaver: what ? you said is there a way in a desktop, alt+f2 will bring the "run" dialog box up
[20:33] <milamber> zgnuu: it's a meta package, so it's not really recommended
[20:33] <bobweaver> ikonia,  let me paste a example
[20:34] <usr13> zgnuu: just choose xfce4
[20:34] <usr13> zgnuu: Ignore the choice xubuntu and choose xfce4
[20:34] <TeamRocket1233c> Go with Xubuntu-session. Looks nicer.
[20:34] <bobweaver> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453227/
[20:35] <tomreyn> zgnuu: you can try this: sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-default-settings
[20:35] <bobweaver> ikonia,  I want to do what the file is doing but with out the terminal flashing on the screen for a milia second
[20:35] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: You can make it look however you want.
[20:35] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: True.
[20:35] <ikonia> bobweaver: it will depend on the command
[20:35] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: You can even make it look like 10.10.
[20:35] <ikonia> bobweaver: not everything will flash up a terminal I believe
[20:35] <bobweaver> ikonia,  there all gsettings commands
[20:35] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: How?
[20:36] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: But then you can do that with MATE too.
[20:36] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: Is mate gnome?
[20:36] <ikonia> bobweaver: don't believe you'll get around that
[20:36] <ikonia> mate is not advised
[20:36] <ikonia> as gnome 2 is dead
[20:36] <bobweaver> ikonia,  thansk
[20:36] <bobweaver> thanks *
[20:36] <RollinV2> mate is a fork of gnome 2 i think
[20:36] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: MATE's basically re-branded GNOME 2.
[20:36] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: But I find the default settings for the xfce4 login pretty close to my liking...
[20:37] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: Yea, that is pretty confusing, there is gnome-classic and gnome-panel and mate and ... well I dono.
[20:37] <YuriRev01> im trying to setup my ubuntu server so only i can read/write files to it
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: write files where ?
[20:38] <usr13> YuriRev01: Should be that way by default.
[20:38] <YuriRev01> through ssh
[20:38] <bobweaver> permissions | YuriRev01
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: what file systems
[20:38] <tomreyn> YuriRev01: you probably mean file transfer, right?
[20:38] <ikonia> YuriRev01: the root file system is owned by root..... your home directory is owned by you....where is the problem ?
[20:38] <YuriRev01> i can take files off the server through filezilla sftp but cannot write them back
[20:38] <usr13> tomreyn: He said ssh not scp  ;)
[20:39] <ikonia> YuriRev01: where ? what files are you taking
[20:39] <tomreyn> usr13: one more reason to ask ;)
[20:39] <usr13> YuriRev01: So your problem is with filezilla.  Right?
[20:39] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: http://namakutux.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-to-make-xfce-looks-like-gnome-2.html
[20:39] <YuriRev01> i need to write files to /var/www
[20:39] <Septima> .
[20:40] <usr13> YuriRev01: It will depend on what user is initiating the connection.
[20:40] <Septima> netsplits cause weird issues
[20:40] <RollinV2> YuriRev01 what user do you connnect with in filezilla
[20:40] <RollinV2> the user connecting must have write permissions
[20:40] <YuriRev01> the only one i have
[20:40] <ikonia> YuriRev01: ok, so you'll need to open up the permissions or add yourself to the correct group
[20:40] <YuriRev01> the main one set up to login to webserver
[20:41] <RollinV2> wait.. are you loging in as root?
[20:42] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c: That's interesting.  Thank you.
[20:42] <YuriRev01> im logging in with the user i created for the webserver
[20:42] <TeamRocket1233c> usr13: IDK if it'll work in 12.04 or 12.10, although it should.
[20:42] <tomreyn> YuriRev01: have you setup this server yourself? do you manage it? is it a managed server (by the company which also hosts it)?
[20:43] <YuriRev01> it sits next to me
[20:43] <usr13> YuriRev01: You know you could just serve from /home/TeamRocket1233c  and symlink to /var/www
[20:43] <RollinV2> usr13 what user owns the /var/www directories and files?
[20:43] <usr13> YuriRev01: Well, didn't say that right, but you know what I mean... RIght?
[20:43] <usr13> RollinV2: root
[20:43] <RollinV2> if root owns those files, you need to chown them to your user:group
[20:43] <tvfae> where is tchat channel plz
[20:43] <tvfae> somebone cna link tchat channel
[20:44] <ikonia> tvfae: we are not a yellow pages
[20:44] <ikonia> tvfae: please join #freenode and ask how to search for channels
[20:44] <YuriRev01> yes but how do i change apache to look in /home/user  rather than /var/www
[20:44] <RollinV2> tcfae you can bring up a list of active rooms with most modern irc clients
[20:44] <ikonia> YuriRev01: you don't want to do that
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01:  you will struggle to manage your server (judging by the level of experience you are showing)
[20:45] <YuriRev01> whats the best way to give me all access
[20:45] <YuriRev01> and yes im struggling lol
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01: you've been told 10 times
[20:45] <RollinV2> chown the var/www to your user:group
[20:45] <RollinV2> usr13 dont worry, its good you are trying to learn
[20:45] <ikonia> YuriRev01: 1.) change the permissions to be more open in /var/www 2.) add your user to the group that owns /var/www
[20:46] <usr13> TeamRocket1233c:  sudo mv /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:46] <ikonia> YuriRev01: either of those will work
[20:46] <usr13> oops wrong nick
[20:46] <usr13> YuriRev01: sudo mv /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:47] <RollinV2> safer to copy site to public_html and then move orginal to backup location
[20:47] <RollinV2> never mv without backups
[20:47] <RollinV2> mv is destructive command
[20:47] <llutz> never do anything without backups
[20:47] <usr13> YuriRev01: or:  cp /var/www/My-Site ~/public_html ; sudo rm -rf /var/www/My-Site ; sudo ln /home/TeamRocket1233c/public_html /var/www/My-Site
[20:48] <usr13> RollinV2: Yea, your way may be simpler I guess.
[20:49] <RollinV2> not simpler, its safer
[20:49] <usr13> RollinV2: Works either way, but I like to leave permissions as they are.
[20:50] <RollinV2> thats the beauty of setting up a server, many methods to the same end goal
[20:51] <usr13> RollinV2: So just starting out, mkdir ~/public_html ; sudo ln -s /public_html /var/www/My-Site-Name  #And just work with ~/public_html files as you please.  No changing of permissions needed.
[20:51] <YuriRev01> ok
[20:52] <ikonia> YuriRev01: I advise you against that - but it's up to you
[20:52] <usr13> I just believe that is the reason for "FollowSymlinks"  in the first place.
[20:52] <YuriRev01> 0_0
[20:52] <RollinV2> the ln is an unessessary step
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: Against my method?
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: yes
[20:53] <RollinV2> you don't want the files linked like that
[20:53] <ikonia> I don't see the point of all this
[20:53] <RollinV2> ^
[20:53] <ikonia> just fix the permissions in /var/www
[20:53] <ikonia> that's it
[20:53] <ikonia> job done
[20:53] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: So you thing changing premissions to /var/www is better?
[20:53] <aspaceneedle> Ubuntu Tweak is reporting that I don't have enough free memory to report a bug to developers. I have 2gb of memory. zram is installed.
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: yes
[20:53] <YuriRev01> the server will jsut be hosting a web based rcon tool for game servers
[20:53] <ikonia> usr13: or adding his user to the group
[20:53] <usr13> ikonia: Why ?
[20:53] <llutz> usr13: if you want user-dirs, use http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
 just fix the permissions in /var/www   <-----this is what im wanting
[20:54] <ikonia> usr13: because ubuntus webserver setup is quite specific, one command and maintaining support seems better than an over the top symlinking setup
[20:54] <YuriRev01> thats the only thing i understand lol
[20:55] <RollinV2> YuriRev01 read up on the chown and chmod commands
[20:55] <RollinV2> go into terminal and type "man chown" or "man chmod" for starters
[20:55] <RollinV2> i think ubuntu wiki has good chown/chmod guide too
[20:55] <usr13> ikonia: Seems my way is simlier because by default, you'll ftp into /home/user dir    (or ssh... what ever).
[20:56] <ikonia> usr13: your way is nothing like it
[20:56] <MangoBoy> Does someone know where the pwm1 pwm2 files that sensors and fancontrol use are located on 11.04 or ev 12.04+ Thanks.
[20:56] <ikonia> usr13: creating a symlink mirror of a directory is nothing like adding a user to the correct group, or opening the permisions on a directory
[20:56] <RollinV2> usr13 setting up a server is not an area to be lazy, it will bite you in the butt latter on
[20:56] <ikonia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453227/
[20:57] <ikonia> oops
[20:57] <ikonia> sorry
[20:57] <ikonia> that was in my buffer
[20:57] <YuriRev01> so i should chown /var/www
[20:58] <usr13> ikonia: RollinV2 Ok, well, it seems like it's not much difference.  The only reason I like to do it with symlinks is that if you just ftp into the server, everything just wroks by default.
[20:58] <YuriRev01> ?
[20:58] <RollinV2> usr13 there is a BIG difference
[20:58] <usr13> trying to understand....
[20:58] <ikonia> usr13: that makes no sense
[20:59] <ikonia> usr13: the permissions of the target files will still be a problem
[20:59] <usr13> How so?
[20:59] <billybob_> Dec 20 12:39:02 108-171-201-222 postfix/smtp[9888]: E1CB61609C3: to=<root@108-171-201-222.clients.bitvps.com>, orig_to=<root>, relay=none, delay=0.49, delays=0.02/0.01/0.45/0, dsn=5.4.4, status=bounced (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=108-171-201-222.clients.bitvps.com type=A: Host not found)
[20:59] <RollinV2> usr13 you said your ftp did not allow you to upload files
[20:59] <ikonia> you're making links to files, if you don't have permissions to the files those links connect to, you still can't change them
[20:59] <RollinV2> a ln link won't fix that
[21:00] <ikonia> billybob_: youre blacklisted
[21:00] <YuriRev01> what would i chmod to
[21:00] <usr13> RollinV2: No, I did't say that.  I said that by haveing the files in /home/user we would avoind that problem.
[21:00] <usr13> *avoid
[21:00] <ikonia> usr13: but it wouldn't
[21:00] <billybob_> server was probally compromised?
[21:00] <RollinV2> usr13 read what ikonia just said
[21:01] <ikonia> billybob_: no
[21:01] <ikonia> billybob_: it means yahoo has blacklisted your dynamic IP
[21:01] <Doyle_> Hey. I've got a server I'm dropping files by scp into every night. What can I do to lock the user down to only access to drop files into a specific folder and not run any commands? A visudo entry I imagine.
[21:01] <ikonia> billybob_: running a mail server on a home broadband connection is a bad idea
[21:01] <RollinV2> regardless of where the www files are located, both the web server (probably apache) and your ftp user need to have access permissions
[21:01] <ikonia> billybob_: it will be black listed by most providers
[21:01] <llutz> billybob_: that hostname doesn't resolve to any ip, so postfix doesn't know where to send it
[21:01] <billybob_> im not, I have professional VPS provider
[21:02] <llutz> billybob_: that error has nothing to do with being blacklisted or not
[21:02] <RollinV2> Doyle_ do you have multiple users on this server?
[21:02] <billybob_> I did have a block on spamhaus last week i had to apply to get off
[21:02] <billybob_> but it says im good now...
[21:02] <Doyle_> RollinV2: yes
[21:02] <usr13> I must be missing something.  I really don't understand how the files would have permission problems when umask takes care of that for you.
[21:02] <llutz> billybob_: that error has nothing to do with being blacklisted or not (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=108-171-201-222.clients.bitvps.com type=A: Host not found)
[21:03] <llutz> billybob_: that is a simple dns-error
[21:03] <ikonia> billybob_: llutz is correct
[21:03] <billybob_> ok
[21:03] <ikonia> I miss-read the hostname
[21:03] <erncic> usr13: I think the issue is with respect to Apache- it wants to server files owned by www-data:www-data.
[21:03] <llutz> billybob_: more clear than that postfix-log you won't get any errors...
[21:04] <billybob_> I have a login script that is returning the error to me, :"It seems this server cannot send e-mails! Could not send e-mail! Please contact the site admin."
[21:04] <user82> does anyone know how to remove/revert a certain commit in my local git directory?
[21:04] <grish> should i install ubuntu on C: where windows also lives and i only have 6gb left or on the D: wheres lots of crap but 384GB free?
[21:04] <ikonia> grish: 6GB will be tight on space
[21:04] <RollinV2> user82 use git to pull an older commit that you want to revert to
[21:05] <user82> i only want one certain commit removed..not everything after too
[21:05] <grish> ikonia: how big should i make the actual OS on the hdd? i install via the wubi windows installer
[21:05] <llutz> billybob_: add "127.0.0.1 108-171-201-222.clients.bitvps.com" to /etc/hosts     if that is the hostname of your vps
[21:05] <ikonia> grish: I never recommend wubi
[21:06] <grish> what would you recommend, ikonia
[21:06] <ikonia> grish: a normal install
[21:06] <billybob_> ahh, instead of useing localhost in the DB settings?
[21:06] <YuriRev01> so hoe would i chmod /var/www to 775
[21:06] <RollinV2> grish, use vmware to virtualize ubuntu or dual boot
[21:06] <ikonia> YuriRev01: that won't work
[21:06] <YuriRev01> ...
[21:06] <ikonia> YuriRev01: as you are not the owner or group
[21:06] <YuriRev01> how do i make ME the owner
[21:06] <llutz> billybob_: DB settings? we're talking about dns and postfix....
[21:06] <YuriRev01> as i am
[21:07] <RollinV2> YuriRev01: chown
[21:07] <billybob_> ohh, ok, havnt gone into that before, but will dig into it thanks
[21:08] <Ziber> If I have "/dev/mapper/storage-fshare /mnt/fshare ext3 error=remount-ro 0 1" in my fstab file, why, upon boot, does the system say there was an error?
[21:08] <YuriRev01> chown tim /var/www
[21:08] <YuriRev01> ?
[21:08] <llutz> billybob_: do you just want to send some mails from php to a smarthost? then using somtehing like ssmtp/msmtp might be easier for you than postfix
[21:08] <RollinV2> YuriRev01 you need the chown to be recursive too!
[21:09] <billybob_> Im just trying to set up a new PDO login script that has email verification.
[21:09] <YuriRev01> chown tim -r /var/www?
[21:09] <RollinV2> capital -R
[21:09] <llutz> billybob_: and if you want to do more, there is http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html and #postfix here on freenode.
[21:10] <alimj> Question: Does anyone use transmission-daemon over http_proxy? By modifying setting.json and not setting system proxy?
[21:11] <Ziber> Will "/dev/mapper/storage-fshare /mnt/fshare ext3 error=remount-ro 0 1" mount it properly?
[21:11] <tim-ct> usr13 please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453296. Still cant see out
[21:12] <billybob_> yea just using php  mail($email, $subject, $body, $headers);
[21:13] <llutz> billybob_: do you have a smarthost, you can send your mails through?
[21:13] <llutz> billybob_: like gmail etc.?
[21:14] <billybob_> yes I do have a gmail
[21:14] <llutz> billybob_: you should have a look at this then, easier than postfix http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/10/21/sending-email-from-your-system-with-ssmtp/
[21:14] <qwebirc94257> Hello.  Is there a command line program to compare file metadata (access/modification/creation timestamps, owner, group, permisions etc.) in addition to file content?  GNU `diff' seems to only compare file content and does not seem to have the ability to compare the file metadata (although I might be mistaken on this)...
[21:15] <jrib> qwebirc94257: what is your end-goal?
[21:15] <RollinV2> qwebirc94257: grep awk
[21:16] <Ziber> I've having some trouble with fstab, trying to get it to mount one of my LVs. The LVM exists and the mount point does as well. Yet, on boot, the system says that the mount point isn't ready or something.
[21:17] <qwebirc94257> jrib:  I want to be able to compare 2 individual files 2 directories (recursively) comparing not just the file content, but also the file metadata so that I can delete files with the more recent timestamps but with identical content.
[21:18] <tomreyn> llutz: i think billybob's issue was that his VPS provider had set a PTR on his IP address which did not resolve in public DNS. so the first action i'd recommended would be to ask the provider to set that properly.
[21:18] <alimj> Ziber: Your fstab seems to be OK. But what do you mean by something? Please define something...
[21:18] <Ziber> I'll try it again and give you the exact error, brb.
[21:18] <alimj> qwebirc...: Posibly rsync could help
[21:18] <llutz> tomreyn: still, smtp/msmtp are much easier to configure for this task than postfix, if he lacks a minimum of basic knowledge
[21:19] <qwebirc94257> RollinV2:  as far as I know, `grep' and `awk' do not have any file comparison functionality...
[21:19] <tomreyn> llutz: yes, good point, one spam catapult less
[21:20] <llutz> ssmtp rather
[21:20] <wmp> hello, where i can found themes to lightgm?
[21:20] <wmp> lightdm*
[21:21] <llutz> tomreyn: well, its not so easy to turn postfix into a spam-relay :)
[21:21] <Ziber> alimj: The exact error is "an error occured while mounting /mnt/fshare".
[21:21] <tim-ct> usr13  i see i dont have /usr/sbin/iptables
[21:21] <tomreyn> llutz: it's pretty easy when yo run an insecure formmailer or other web application on the same host (and he did run a webserver there)
[21:22] <jrib> qwebirc94257: rsync and unison probably compare files in that way.  You could use them to sync two directories and then just delete one I guess.  I'm not aware of a tool that does exactly what you ask
[21:22] <dooglus> qwebirc94257: you might be able to trick rsync into doing what you want
[21:22] <llutz> tim-ct: it is "/sbin/iptables"
[21:22] <dooglus> you can tell rsync to just tell you what it would do, and not actually sync anything
[21:23] <adrenalink> hello! I have an Ubuntu 10.04 and my update-manager does not update my kernel to a version over 2.6.xx. Is there any issue to install a 3.x kernel on Ubuntu 10.04??? PS: I don't want to update to Ubuntu 12..
[21:24] <Ziber> alimj: Any idea?
[21:24] <Ziber> or anyone else? "an error occured by while mounting /mnt/share", trying to mount an LVM on boot.
[21:24] <jrib> adrenalink: ubuntu backports kernels to LTS versions.  I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.  You can install them if you want (you need to explicitly install the appropriate package)
[21:25] <alimj> Ziber: Are you sure that the Volume Group name is "Storage", Volume is "fshare"
[21:25] <alimj> AAAA
[21:26] <alimj> Ziber: In your fstab you are telling that it is /mnt/fshare ... however in error you say /mnt/share. Is this a typo
[21:26] <usr13> erncic: I see what you mean.  They've changed things I guess.
[21:26] <usr13> erncic: Thank you
[21:26] <erncic> usr13: Very welcome.
[21:26] <Ziber> alimj: It's fshare - typo in the error. and yes, the names are right. http://pastebin.com/6GkkjtTR
[21:26] <adrenalink> jrib: I would that my update-manager automatically update to a newer kernel version above 2.6... I can do it manually from Synaptic, but I was wondering why it doesn't do it automatically.
[21:26] <usr13> tim-ct: Yea, probably /sbin/iptables  Right?
[21:27] <usr13> tim-ct: which iptables
[21:27] <alimj> Ziber: I have to check. I was not here from the beginning of the conversation...
[21:28] <jrib> adrenalink: you'll get updates for the kernel series meant for 10.04
[21:29] <alimj> Ziber: Did you already mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/storage-fshare
[21:29] <Ziber> alimj: yes.
[21:29] <Ziber> I can manually mount it just fine.
[21:29] <adrenalink> jrib: of course! so if I don't receive update to kernel 3.3 for example it means that it is not supported in ubuntu 10.04?
[21:29] <alimj> Ziber: Did you chmod /mnt/fshare to be readable by everyone?
[21:30] <tim-ct> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453296/
[21:30] <Ziber> Actually, I did not.
[21:30] <adrenalink> jrib: that is, there is not a version of the kernel cmopiled for Ubuntu 10.04. ( but I could compile a vanilla kernel and put it in my Ubuntu distro, right?)
[21:30] <jrib> adrenalink: for example, you will see you have many "linux-image-*-server" packages (I assume you are on -server version).  Those will be installed automatically assuming you have linux-image-server installed.  If you want to use backported kernel versions from later versions of ubuntu you can use for example linux-image-server-lts-bcakport-oneiric.  This is probably just part of the stable release update
[21:30] <jrib> policy.  I'm not sure if kernels are specifically covered in the !sru document but take a look:
[21:30] <jrib> !sru | adrenalink
[21:31] <llutz> tim-ct: it is "/sbin/iptables"   check your script (line 19 from you last paste)
[21:31] <llutz> your*
[21:31] <jrib> adrenalink: you can find the kernels in oneiric have been backported and are available in the repositories.  But you must explicitly say you want them (if you do)
[21:31] <tim-ct> llutz i have corrected that
[21:31] <alimj> Ziber: Would you please test it. It might help. If it works, confirm. Otherwise. let us see, what could we do.
[21:31] <adrenalink> jrib: ubottu: thx
[21:32] <Ziber> alimj: Just tested it, no change.
[21:33] <leftyfb> Running Ubuntu 12.04 ... pretty new install .. yet seahorse/gnome-keyring doesn't seem to be unlocking our keyrings on login anymore. I tried deleting the password store using seahorse and from ~/.gnome2/keyrings and it still refuses to unlock the keyring on boot.
[21:34] <jrib> leftyfb: I believe the password to your keyring must be the same as the login password for it to be unlocked at login
[21:34] <leftyfb> jrib: yup, got that
[21:34] <leftyfb> doesn't make a lick of difference
[21:34] <Petaz> I have all my users under my belt
[21:35] <jrib> leftyfb: what happens?  You're prompted for a keyring password when you login?
[21:35] <leftyfb> jrib: no, only when trying to use info from the keyring (ssh key)
[21:35] <leftyfb> it doesn't get unlocked
[21:35] <vooze> Just playing around with unity, for the allmost first time.. But in CCSM and Ubuntu tweak, I can see a option to disable a show desktop button in the launcher, but its not even there? Have I missed somthing?
[21:35] <jrib> leftyfb: you're using a vanilla unity session?
[21:36] <jrib> leftyfb: and lightdm?
[21:36] <alimj> Ziber: Are you there? Try to change error to errors in your fstab
[21:36] <leftyfb> lightdm and gnome-classic
[21:36] <jrib> leftyfb: did it ever work?
[21:36] <leftyfb> that's i'm not entirely sure of
[21:37] <alimj> Ziber: My fstab is "errors=remount-ro" and not "error=reamout-ro"
[21:38] <Ziber> hm.
[21:38] <tomreyn>  wow, 4 typos in a row ;)
[21:38] <tomreyn> *3
[21:38] <Ziber> ..wait
[21:39] <Ziber> there's no typo
[21:39] <jrib> leftyfb: uh, I have to go.  But I'm willing to troubleshoot if you're still around in half an hour or so
[21:39] <Ziber> ev/mapper/storage-fshare /mnt/fshare ext3 error=remount-ro 0 1
[21:39] <Ziber> /dev/mapper/storage-fshare /mnt/fshare ext3 error=remount-ro 0 1
[21:39] <Petaz> yes I want to troubleshoot you too
[21:39] <Ziber> sorry, didnt see the first part
[21:39] <michagogo> I installed Quantal in a VM to use as a sandbox, and now I seem to be stuck here: http://i.imgur.com/inRxh.png
[21:40] <michagogo> How can I move that update window to dismiss the encryption thing?
[21:40] <Petaz> whats is quantal?
[21:40] <michagogo> !12.10
[21:41] <alimj> Ziber: I believe here is the error!. It should read "errors" and not "error"
[21:41] <erncic> michagogo: hold alt and click in the window and move it
[21:41] <Ziber> alimj: thanks! you were right. :D
[21:41] <Petaz> erros terrifie me
[21:41] <michagogo> Holding alt seems to do nothing
[21:41] <Petaz> or is it terry fie me
[21:42] <michagogo> Terrify, Petaz
[21:42] <alimj> Ziber: Thanks for feed-back
[21:42] <Petaz> its also errors
[21:43] <Petaz> what time is the end of the world shedule for in UTC time?
[21:45] <tomreyn> Petaz: Please /join #ubuntu-trolls and ask the Elders of the Internet there, they should know.
[21:45] <Petaz> but all the trolls are in here
[21:46] <tomreyn> dang, now i ran out of fish
[21:46] <tim-ct> usr13 did u get a chance to look at  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453296/
[21:47] <Petaz> tomreyn: mormons sure sound morrons to me
[21:48] <DJones> Petaz: Stay on topic please, general chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:49] <Petaz> join defocus
[21:50] <somewhere> seems like ubuntu added another lens application finder or something today and need faq for disabling it
[21:52] <Petaz> !12.11
[21:52] <jrib> leftyfb: I'll try to figure out what exactly is responsible for unlocking gnome keyring (I guess it's related to pam?), but these data points might shed some light in the meantime: 1) create a new user, is the keyring unlocked in gnome-classic?  in unity? 2) is the keyring unlocked with your current broken user with the unity session?
[21:53] <tomreyn> somewhere: as far as i know they are all packaged, so you could just apt-get purge unity-lens-\*
[21:53] <jrib> leftyfb: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Pam looks informative.  Let's see if we can find the relevant configuration in ubuntu...
[21:53] <newroad> Hmmm, I have an Optimus laptop using Bumblebee (dual video cards). When I open Virtual Box settings it only recognizes 128MB of video memory (the size of the onboard graphics). But the dedicated graphics actually has 2GB of memory. I've tried launching Virtualbox with "optirun virtualbox" but it still only sees 128MB. What could cause this?
[21:53] <Petaz> i have genomekeyring in my wallet
[21:54] <somewhere> tomreyn..well ubuntu seems to add a new lens every now and then..and i just need some faq for disabling each one as they come along
[21:54] <jrib> leftyfb: what's the output of "grep keyring /etc/pam.d/*"?
[21:54] <leftyfb> /etc/pam.d/common-password:password	optional	pam_gnome_keyring.so
[21:54] <leftyfb> /etc/pam.d/gnome-screensaver:auth optional pam_gnome_keyring.so
[21:54] <leftyfb> /etc/pam.d/lightdm:auth    optional        pam_gnome_keyring.so
[21:54] <leftyfb> /etc/pam.d/lightdm:session optional        pam_gnome_keyring.so auto_start
[21:54] <FloodBot1> leftyfb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <tomreyn> somewhere: apt-get purge <package name>. also, apt pinning should allow for preventing these packages to be installed in the future.
[21:54] <leftyfb> mind you, i'm also running likewise-open
[21:55] <leftyfb> but i'm pretty sure this used to work
[21:55] <somewhere> tomreyn .well what if i don't remember the particular lens package name
[21:56] <jrib> leftyfb: hmm.  I'm not familiar with likewise-open.  I assume it's some way to login users?  Do you know if it plays nice with pam?
[21:56] <tomreyn> somewhere: then you do what i suggested initially: apt-get purge unity-lens-\*
[21:56] <leftyfb> it does
[21:57] <somewhere> tomreyn well will that purge all of them.  what if i wish to keep one or two of them
[21:57] <jrib> leftyfb: is there a way for you to not use likewise-open for one login and see if the keyring gets unlocked?
[21:58] <somewhere> tomreyn is there a way to access a log of each lens app installed
[21:58] <tomreyn> newroad: could be a bug in virtualbox, or maybe it's by design that you need to manually configure it there. yuor question is quite application specific, i suggest you try to contact the virtualbox community directly: i think their irc channel is #vbox and they have a forum, too (which has a search).
[21:59] <tomreyn> somewhere: dpkg -l '<package name>' will show you a list of matching packages, wildcards are supported.
[22:00] <tomreyn> it also indicates the package status in the first column ("i" = installed"), so you can use this to list the installed lenses and can then remove those you don't want.
[22:00] <jrib> !who | leftyfb
[22:01] <tomreyn> somewhere: or learn how apt-pinning works to both keep the lenses you have and prevent installation of new ones.
[22:01] <michagogo> !tab
[22:01] <somewhere> tomreyn..well i have been hesitant to use dselect stuff and its logs because i thought apt carried more information so i was looking for a list of installed lens apps using aptitude
[22:01] <tomreyn> !pinning | somewhere
[22:02] <tomreyn> somewhere: i didn't mention "dselect"
[22:02] <somewhere> tomreyn..well you did when you mentioned dpkg..they go together but aptitude came along later with a different set of info
[22:03] <somewhere> tomreyn..and i am trying to find the list of apt-get installs
[22:04] <smkatz> hey. I have a question about configuring postfix during a drupal installation.
[22:04] <tomreyn> somewhere: you can consider apt an extension to dpkg, if you like, it's not a replacement, though. dpkg is amongst the most defining properties of ubuntu and debian, you can't (well, barely) go without. to determine whether or not a package is installed, dpkg is the right tool to use.
[22:04] <smkatz> I can't figure out how to select a mail routing option
[22:04] <alimj> smkatz: It might be better if you visit #drupal. Please ask the question anyway
[22:05] <cakeboss> Hey all. How do I make ubuntu cycle through wallpaper images?
[22:05] <somewhere> tomreyn yes well i just did not want to disturb the info formats and locations of apt info
[22:05] <smkatz> I mean this is really a postfix configuration question. I mean I just can't figure out how to select the option
[22:05] <alimj> smkatz: It does not require any. It should be in PHP config...
[22:06] <somewhere> tomreyn so i was looking for the apt logs
[22:06] <tomreyn> somewhere: by just querying dpkg you surely will not make any changes to the extended package information stored by apt.
[22:06] <somewhere> tomreyn..ok..i just did not want to start mixing stuff
[22:07] <tomreyn> somewhere: apt-get calls dpkg all the time because it cannot do this stuff itself. so if you don't want to mix it, you'd need to stop using apt
[22:07] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i am trying to install lubuntu on my dimension 4300 but when i try and boot from the disk i get the message "strike f1 to retry boot, f2 to enter setup utility"...can you help me with that?
[22:07] <alimj> smkatz: Drupal does not need any setting for postfix config. What is your problem actually? Your Drupal installation does not send emails to new users for registration?
[22:08] <smkatz> hi alimj, I'm aware it doesn't but when I do an apt-get install drupal7 the package configuration pops up and asks me for postfix configuration
[22:08] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: sounds like your boot media is not actually bootable, or the boot device the system uses is a different one than you want it to boot from.
[22:08] <somewhere> tomreyn..well i don't have a choice to stop using it...synaptic uses it by default or whatever they call the gui stuff
[22:09] <smkatz> No configuration, local only etc
[22:09] <HaltingState> add a task bar to unity already; this is ridiculous
[22:09] <smkatz> and I don't know how to select an option
[22:09] <ikonia> smkatz: "local only"
[22:09] <ikonia> smkatz: if you're not using a mail server
[22:09] <tomreyn> somewhere: right, i didn't mean to suggest to stop using apt, i just said this to explain how it's perfectly safe to use both apt and dpkg
[22:09] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: what do you mean? it is just the iso file on a cd-rw that i selected to boot from
[22:09] <smkatz> no, I get that
[22:09] <jrib> smkatz: tab and space
[22:10] <alimj> ikonia: Agee with you...
[22:10] <somewhere> tomreyn..ok if you don't think it will lead to catastrophies
[22:10] <smkatz> oh
[22:10] <smkatz> thanks
[22:10] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: did you copy the ISP file to the CD-RW, or did you image the cdrw using the iso-file?
[22:10] <tomreyn> ISP-> ISO
[22:10] <UltimaKR> i burned the image to the file
[22:11] <UltimaKR> i mean to the cdrw
[22:12] <tomreyn> somewhere: it won't. it's a little better to use apt utilities to install and remove packages, though. also more convenient. but for uerying the package database (dpkg -l and dpkg-query commands) dpkg is the tool you want to use.
[22:12] <tomreyn> since there is nothing else / better for this purpose
[22:13] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i will try the other cd drive in case this one cannot read cdrws
[22:13] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: check the bios for whether you can set a boot device and make sure it is set to boot from the cd-rw drive
[22:14] <somewhere> tomreyn are they using the knoppix scripts to make live cds
[22:14] <tomreyn> also check whether the cd-rw light flashes by the time it's trying to boot.
[22:14] <tomreyn> somewhere: who is "they" and which "knppix scripts" are you referring to?
[22:14] <m14t> hi all, i'm trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 on a 1and1.com VPS and things seem to to not gone so well… its saying that gcc-4.4 has unmet dependencies, but i need a new kernel to install those, but i can't tell what kernel i am currently running
[22:15] <somewhere> tomreyn..well knoppix made scripts for making one of the first live cds..before anyone else..so i was wondering if they are using the knoppix approach on their live cds
[22:16] <tomreyn> m14t: run 'uname' or "cat /proc/version" to determine the currently running kernel. how are you upgrading anyways?
[22:16] <jack150> hi, I want to try to compile some source-code on ubuntu for an ARMv7 target, all tutorials I found where for compiling kernels/os-images
[22:17] <poq> I keep my *.deb files in a local repo as a one folder. How many files can keep one folder in Ubuntu (ext4 as I understand)
[22:17] <poq> >
[22:17] <poq> ?
[22:17] <Catbuntu> hi
[22:17] <m14t> tomreyn:   "Linux version 2.6.18-028stab099.3 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Wed Mar 7 15:20:22 MSK 2012"  i tried running `do-release-upgrade`
[22:17] <smkatz> one more question: I installed the client OS and it didn't seem to have my display resolution correct, and won't let me select a custom option (it thinks it's a laptop)
[22:18] <ikonia> m14t: you are running redhat
[22:18] <alimj> mn14: Centos or Redhat
[22:18] <somewhere> tomreyn...are they planning to ditch this outdated x stuff and move to wayland or weston
[22:18] <tomreyn> somewhere: personally i'm not sure what knoppix uses these days (does it still exist?), but surely the way he created his images have changed over time, too. i would think ubuntu's live cd's use a similar but different approach, though the file system overlaying stuff is used by many live distros nowadays.
[22:18] <harold8> ciao
[22:18] <guesttttt> hello
[22:19] <tomreyn> somewhere: this time "they" would be canonical? ubuntu community? knoppix community? mr. knopper?
[22:19] <m14t> ikonia: aladilas i don't think so, /etc/lsb-release shows DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS", i think 1and1 installed a redhat kenel on their VPS's maybe?
[22:19] <somewhere> tomreyn..i don't know if knoppix still exists..they just had something unique for a little while
[22:19] <ikonia> m14t: yes, its a terrible virtual install
[22:19] <ikonia> m14t: which means it will be a bastardised build
[22:20] <ikonia> m14t: which means you will need to contact your hosting provider to make changes
[22:20] <tomreyn> m14t: you are probably running on openvz container virtualization.
[22:20] <alimj> tomreyn: Agree with you...
[22:20] <somewhere> tomrey..are they going to ditch this outdated x stuff and move to wayland or weston
[22:20] <m14t> tomreyn: it is a VPS but i don't know the specifics
[22:20] <ikonia> somewhere: what are you talking about
[22:21] <ikonia> somewhere: this is an ubuntu support/discussion channel
[22:21] <ikonia> somewhere: do you have something that fits into that topic ?
[22:21] <alimj> jack120: Are you still there?
[22:21] <somewhere> ikonia..well the wayland compositor theoretically will have less tearing than x
[22:21] <tomreyn> m14t: check with your hosting provier (1and1) whether you can run modern linux distributions on this system.
[22:21] <ikonia> somewhere: I know what wayland is
[22:21] <ikonia> somewhere: do you have a question relevant to ubuntu
[22:21] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i am going to burn the image to a cd-r drive...everything is booting properly and from the cd drive, but it seems as though neither of the two drives can read cd-rws, only the cdrs
[22:22] <somewhere> ikonia..yes..are they going to move to a wayland/weson version
[22:22] <ikonia> somewhere: who ?
[22:22] <ikonia> somewhere: could you please state a full question
[22:22] <guesttttt> i have a hp mini 5120 and when i try to boot the screen is black and the led from the capslook key is blinking 3 times after stop again 3 times so like this 12 blinks........anyone can help me?
[22:23] <somewhere> ikonia..is ubuntu going to replace x with wayland
[22:23] <ikonia> somewhere: 12.10 had some very small test packages, there is no official timeline or decision, but there is intent
[22:23] <somewhere> ikonia..well kms is getting usable now
[22:24] <ikonia> somewhere: that has nothing to do with anything.
[22:24] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: normally cd-rw burners should also be able to boot off a cd-rw. but i'd personally try to prevent all of these optical media whereever possible. booting from usb keys is usually faster and more reliable, and, with modern computers, much  less of a hassle
[22:24] <rhizmoe> it getdeb.net supposed to be down? update checker is complaining
[22:24]  * thewiseguy is away: PS3 or something...
[22:24] <ikonia> rhizmoe: it's down
[22:24] <OerHeks> somewhere, there is an up2date wiki > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[22:24] <ikonia> !away > thyri0n
[22:24] <ikonia> oops
[22:24] <jack150> alimj:  I'm still here
[22:24] <ikonia> !away > thewiseguy
[22:24] <thyri0n> erm
[22:24] <thyri0n> what did i do?
[22:25] <ikonia> thyri0n: sorry about that
[22:25] <ikonia> thyri0n: typo
[22:25] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i would love to boot via usb, but this is an 11 year old dimension 4300...i searched and it is a cdr burner, not a cdrw burner
[22:25] <thyri0n> alrighty then
[22:25] <thyri0n> i just wondered, my znc is as silent as possible
[22:25] <thyri0n> ^^
[22:25] <tomreyn> rhizmoe: getdeb / playdeb is not an official ubuntu resource. it's been down for ~2 or 3 weeks now, though. they have a hardware failure and are in progress of restoring it.
[22:25] <UltimaKR> unfortunately the bios do not let me boot from usb, only from an ide drive or a cd drive
[22:25] <michagogo> What's Compiz, and should I be worried about it crashing?
[22:26] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: okay in this case cd-r is the way to go, i agree. wow @ 11 years old.
[22:26] <guesttttt> anyone can tell me what is wrong?
[22:26] <ikonia> michagogo: part of your display setup, depends if it's causing you a problem
[22:26] <guesttttt> could be the bios?
[22:26] <michagogo> Ah
[22:26] <wting> I'm trying to install Ubuntu off a thumbdrive but the installation doesn't detect the hdd, although the hdd shows up in blkid and gparted.
[22:26] <michagogo> That would explain nothing happening on boot
[22:26] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: yeah, this is more of my pet project to restore an old pc...this won't be my main pc (I am talking to you from an alienware)
[22:26] <michagogo> Er, s/boot/login/
[22:26] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: this thing probably eats a lot of power while not doing much with it, are you sure you want to use it?
[22:26] <guesttttt> i have a hp mini 5120 and when i try to boot the screen is black and the led from the capslook key is blinking 3 times after stop again 3 times so like this 12 blinks........anyone can help me?
[22:26] <rhizmoe> tomreyn: thanks, i finally found a ref to it. google was being annoying for me.
[22:27] <PJSingh5000> UltimaKR, Burn Plop Boot Manager to CD.  Boot from the CD, insert the USB, and Plop Boot Manager will allow you to select the USB to boot from.
[22:27] <somewhere> iknoia..why do you say kms has nothing to do with anything..wayland can make use of kms since it is coming along quite well
[22:27] <tomreyn> rhizmoe: yes there's not much info in the public, just the post to their google+
[22:28] <wting> Does anybody know why Ubuntu installation doesn't detect a hdd that blkid and gparted can see?
[22:28] <ikonia> somewhere: wayland is currently not in ubuntu as a display component beyond small test packages, so kms status doesn't matter
[22:28] <ikonia> wting: why do you think it's not detecting it ?
[22:28] <ikonia> wting: could you expand a little
[22:28] <somewhere> ikonia..ok well that settles it for now
[22:28] <wting> ikonia: On the installation page where you choose partition table it only lists sdb (the thumb drive).
[22:28] <wting> I don't have the option of modifying the existing partition table on sda.
[22:29] <wting> It won't allow me to install grub on sda MBR either.
[22:29] <somewhere> ikonia..but i think it will have its day in the near future
[22:29] <m14t> ikonia: aladilas: tomreyn:  1and1 is usless they basically say that i can't update the kernel, which means i can't get the newer version of gcc, which means i probably can't geto to 12.04
[22:29] <ikonia> somewhere: not really interested
[22:29] <RollinV2> m14t never use 1and1 for hosting
[22:29] <somewhere> ikonia..well that is understandable but it should offer less tearing than x
[22:30] <ikonia> wting: tell me about the hard drive thats missing
[22:30] <ikonia> somewhere: not really interested
[22:30] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:30] <RollinV2> m14t: you are at the mercy of your shared host for software updates, thats why most devs that care use VPS servers
[22:30] <wting> ikonia: It's a 120 GB pata hdd with a WinXP 60GB partition and 60GB unallocated.
[22:30] <m14t> RollinV2: this is a vps
[22:31] <ikonia> wting: what disk controller ?
[22:31] <bruce927> Hi, I'm trying to install 12.10 via netboot, and it's gotten to the install fine, but won't detect the ethernet (AR8151)
[22:31] <bruce927> How can I enable the ethernet device for downloading the necessary data from in a netboot environment?
[22:31] <tomreyn> m14t: not being able to modify the kernel is a property of container virtualization, such as openvz, linux-vserver or lxc. you may want to either choose a VPS where you have a container virtualization with a modern kernel version or, better, but usually a little more expensive, proper virtualization (ideally with a hypervisor) such as KVM, Xen, VMWare.
[22:31] <wting> ikonia: IDE 0
[22:32] <ikonia> wting: do you know what make/model
[22:32] <DarkLobster> When I - or other people in the developer group with the same setup - connects to the server using Eclipse + SSH and then upload files the files get the right owner, but completely wrong group. The group is called backup, which none of the user accounts belong to! Does anyone have a clue as to what is causing this??
[22:32] <tomreyn> m14t: i'm not sure you strictly need to get a newer kernel to be able to upgrade gcc, though.
[22:32] <ikonia> DarkLobster: setgid on the dir ?
[22:32] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: for some reason it can read the cd with the ubuntu iso but not the one with the lubuntu iso...what do I do about that? is there something else you recommend for a very low RAM PC?
[22:32] <RollinV2> DarkLobster: your ftp users are in the backup group
[22:33] <wting> ikonia: Maxtor 6L200P0
[22:33] <ikonia> wting: that's a hard disk, I'm talking about the controller
[22:34] <somewhere> i can't understand why they shortchanged the gl support on ming32 even on the ubuntu distro
[22:34] <ikonia> wting: can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please ?is that possible
[22:34] <wting> ikonia: Are you asking about the mobo north bridge? Or something else?
[22:34] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: ubuntu-server can be fine for this. or, if you need a GUI, then lubuntu can be fine. it sounds like the lubuntu image you downloaded, or the media you burnt from it, is broken. you can try to re-donload and re-burn.
[22:34] <ikonia> somewhere: this is nothing to do with ubuntu - please stop with the random statements
[22:34] <DarkLobster> ikonia: Dir permissions are rwxrwsr-x, and it has the right group, so afaik that should be correct, right?
[22:34] <ikonia> wting: the disk controller on the motherboard
[22:34] <ikonia> DarkLobster: there you do
[22:34] <ikonia> DarkLobster: "go"
[22:34] <somewhere> ikonia..it has to do with a ubuntu package
[22:34] <ikonia> DarkLobster: setgid
[22:34] <ikonia> somewhere: no, it's not
[22:34] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: how can i tell that the image is bad? i got it from lubuntu.net and the md5sum matched perfectly
[22:35] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: you can also create a checksum on the lubuntu iso file you downloaded and compare that to what's on the server (there is a checksum file, too)
[22:35] <DarkLobster> RollinV2: Shouldn't that show with groups <user>?
[22:35] <Kion12> anybody has experience with Xchat IRC ?
[22:35] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: okay, if the checksum matches then it should be fine. chances are it didn't burn properly then
[22:35] <ikonia> DarkLobster: setgid is set
[22:35] <m14t> ikonia: aladilas: tomreyn:  thanks, well for now, i just want to get this box back to stable 10.04, but if i run `apt-get upgrade` it now tells me that gcc-4.4 has unmet dependencies… how should i fix that?
[22:36] <ikonia> m14t: sounds like your box is in a mixed state
[22:36] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i checked the md5sum again and it matched even after it was on the disk
[22:36] <ikonia> m14t: remove as much as possible and re-install from the 10.04 repo
[22:36] <wting> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/UwsytWhg Where would I find the disk controller info?
[22:36] <somewhere> Kion12..i still haven't heard back if it is propietary..so i just don't use it for now
[22:36] <ikonia> m14t: (as in re-insall packages)
[22:36] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: how did you check the checksum on the disk?
[22:36] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: by disk, do you mean HDD or CD-RW?
[22:36] <UltimaKR> by using the md5 application and searching for its code
[22:36] <somewhere> Kion12..at one time it was propietary and costs money
[22:36] <UltimaKR> and i mean cd-rw
[22:37] <ikonia> somewhere: it does not cost money
[22:37] <ikonia> Kion12: the #xchat channel has lots of users
[22:37] <somewhere> Kion12 and  i have not heard if it has been release under the gpl for free
[22:37] <Kion12> Thanks ikonia
[22:37] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: which md5 application?
[22:37] <somewhere> Kion12..i tried sending email but i did not hear back
[22:37] <DarkLobster> ikonia: Yes. But it should be, right? And the folder belongs to the right group. But still..
[22:37] <m14t> ikonia: `apt-get -f remove gcc` tells me i should run `apt-get -f install`, but that wants to reinstall just about everything
[22:38] <ikonia> m14t: I'm not that surprised if you've got a failed/in progress upgrade
[22:38] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: well it does not have a name more than md5, but I got it off of CNET
[22:38] <wting> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/VzCStycw Updated with lspci info.
[22:38] <ikonia> DarkLobster: can you access the server by ssh ?
[22:38] <somewhere> Kion12 so i just don't use it for right now until i can hear something definite
[22:38] <ikonia> wting: nvidia controller
[22:38] <m14t> ikonia: The following packages will be REMOVED: adduser anacron apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils….
[22:38] <ikonia> somewhere: please stop
[22:38] <somewhere> ikonia
[22:39] <somewhere> ikonia ok.
[22:39] <ikonia> m14t: again, not surprised
[22:39] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i see, i do not know this application. you can use the md5sum command line utility from a terminal to check it, which should already be installed.
[22:39] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: here is is, from this link: http://download.cnet.com/MD5-Checker/3000-2092_4-10410639.html
[22:39] <Petaz> #apt-get remove --purge package
[22:39] <Petaz> #apt-get clean
[22:39] <OerHeks> somewhere, only the windows version is not free, this is ubuntu support and the question was not windows related.
[22:39] <DarkLobster> ikonia: Yes. I've had to do that a lot to chown file groups lately :-p..
[22:39] <ikonia> DarkLobster: go to the directory and just do "touch testfile" then ls -la testfile, what does it look like
[22:39] <wting> ikonia: I used to have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on this machine a while back, now trying to load 12.04 but don't know why installer can't see the hdd.
[22:40] <m14t> Petaz:  irc://irc.freenode.net:6667/#apt-get remove --purge gcc gives the same thing
[22:40] <Hapzzz> i've some NS issues
[22:40] <somewhere> DerHeks..ok so it is not free for windows as a final determination...but is it gpl and free for ubuntu
[22:40] <ikonia> wting: well, it can see the hard disk, why it's not presenting it in th einstaller, is a different matter
[22:40] <Hapzzz> NS_BINDING_ABORTED in firefox
[22:40] <Hapzzz> some sockets take forever to establish
[22:40] <DarkLobster> ikonia: -rw------- <myuser> <correct group> .....
[22:41] <ikonia> DarkLobster: ok, so the problem is what eclipse is doing
[22:41] <Hapzzz> `ping somehost.tld` takes like 5-10 seconds to display every reply
[22:41] <Hapzzz> even though the latency is ~100mks
[22:41] <Hapzzz> ms even
[22:41] <wting> Is there a way to run the text installer from the livecd or do I need to download the alternate version?
[22:41] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: oh you're on windows then. well this utility does not seem to be able to create a checksum on an entire cd-rw, just on a given file. so we're back to where we started: i assume you have only burnt (as in copied) the ISO file on the cd/cd-rw instead of actually imaging the cd/cd-rw using this iso file.
[22:41] <Hapzzz> ping -n somehost.tld works fine tho
[22:41] <Hapzzz> any ideas?
[22:42] <Hapzzz> -n     Numeric output only.  No attempt will be made to lookup symbolic names for host addresses.
[22:42] <Ben64> Hapzzz: dns problem
[22:42] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: when you insert the lubuntu cd/cd-rw on your drive while running windows, which files does it list as being found on it?
[22:42] <DarkLobster> ikonia: Yep. I'll start digging right away. Thanks.
[22:42] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i do not understand the difference...i used the windows disc image burner, not drag and drop
[22:42] <UltimaKR> it just lists the iso
[22:43] <Hapzzz> Ben64 lol no shit man
[22:43] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: it lists the single .iso file?
[22:43] <ikonia> Hapzzz: no need for the language
[22:43] <UltimaKR> yes it does
[22:43] <Hapzzz> ikonia yeah, sorry.
[22:43] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: okay, so this was the problem all the time. this cd burning utility you used just 'copied' the ISO file to the CD, but did not image it.
[22:44] <YuriRev01> if im behind a router how would i let public connect to my webserver ive forded port 80
[22:44] <UltimaKR> do you recommend abother utility?
[22:44] <ikonia> YuriRev01: you router needs to support port forwarding
[22:44] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: it worked with the regular ubuntu, so why did this one fail?
[22:44] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Burning_from_Windows
[22:45] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: the link you gave me does exactly what i did
[22:45] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i would not know, but if you say you insert the cd on windows and look at its contents and it shows a single file there which ends in .iso then it was burnt incorrectly
[22:45] <johnstrying> Anyone fancy helping out a guy who cannot connect two ubuntu comps to share files?
[22:45] <yuri2> it supports port forwarding
[22:46] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i will try it again, but that seems weird considering i did the same as what you said
[22:47] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: so you used the “Burn disc image" option from context menu in windows 7?
[22:47] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i right clicked the iso, said open with windows disc image burner, then selected my cd and clicked burn to disc
[22:48] <Hapzzz> so any ideas?
[22:48] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: hmm, i agree this sounds like it should have worked. but based on what you told me it did not.
[22:48] <ikonia> Hapzzz: look at what dns server you are set up to use
[22:48] <ikonia> Hapzzz: test it
[22:48] <ikonia> work from there
[22:48] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: exactly...i will try to burn it again (since it is rewritable) and test it
[22:48] <somewhere> does anyone know why tuxracer will not build in ubuntu
[22:49] <PJSingh5000> johnstrying, what are you trying to do?
[22:49] <ikonia> somewhere: depends on the problem
[22:49] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: okay, good luck
[22:49] <ikonia> somewhere: tuxracer is in the repo so you don' tned to build it
[22:49] <ikonia> !info tuxracer
[22:49] <somewhere> it seems to not like the tcl8.5 that ubuntu has
[22:49] <ikonia> !find tuxracer
[22:49] <ikonia> somewhere: there you go extremetuxracer
[22:49] <somewhere> idonia..well i only found tuxracer extreme..and i am trying to build tuxracer
[22:50] <ikonia> install the ubuntu package
[22:50] <michagogo> I think I need help
[22:50] <OerHeks> somewhere the error you get, contains the solution
[22:50] <michagogo> My fresh install of ubuntu doesn't seem to be working
[22:50] <michagogo> I installed, booted, it wanted me to install updates, so Idid
[22:50] <somewhere> ikonia..well i did install the ubuntu..it put tcl8.5 and the configure program in tuxracer source doesn't like tcl install
[22:50] <smkatz> hey -- drupal irc chat isn't very active.
[22:51] <somewhere> ikonia..so what can ubuntu do about this
[22:51] <ikonia> somewhere: ok, so there you go, there is the problem
[22:51] <michagogo> Then I rebooted, logged on, and was told compiz quit unexpectedly
[22:51] <smkatz> anyone want to take a guess as to why these instructions don't work?
[22:51] <ikonia> somewhere: nothing, you need to fix tuxracer to support the version ubuntu ships with
[22:51] <smkatz> http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/how-to-install-drupal-7-on-ubuntu-server-12.04-120816041505.html
[22:51] <michagogo> Sent the report, now I've been looking at http://i.imgur.com/1YNPK.png for a few minutes
[22:51] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: so far the burn is going much more slowly, which seems like the proper way to do it
[22:51] <tomreyn> Hapzzz: you can test the dns servers you have configured with the 'host' or 'dig' commands.
[22:51] <ikonia> smkatz: "don't work" you need to give us info
[22:51] <smkatz> I installed lamp-server carrot
[22:51] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: probably, yes
[22:51] <somewhere> ikonia..well the older version was better..tux had less accidents
[22:51] <smkatz> and drupal7
[22:52] <smkatz> used the installer to setup a database
[22:52] <ikonia> somewhere: you don't have the older version in this ubuntu version,
[22:52] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: check the contents of the disk on windows again when the burn process finished
[22:52] <ikonia> somewhere: so it's pointless commenting on it
[22:52] <somewhere> ikonia..well that is why i was trying to build it on ubuntu
[22:52] <smkatz> and then registered drupal with apache
[22:52] <ikonia> smkatz: just tell us the problem
[22:53] <somewhere> ikonia..but right now i can't get past the configure program because it does not like the tcl8.5 install
[22:53] <Hapzzz> tomreyn it's not the issue..
[22:53] <ikonia> somewhere: you've said that
[22:53] <alimj> smkatz: your link is dead. By the way, what error or errors you currently get?
[22:53] <michagogo> Can anyome help me figure out what's wrong with my VM?
[22:53] <Hapzzz> it resolves perfectly and pretty fast too
[22:53] <smkatz> using sudo cp /etc/drupal/7/apache2.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/drupal.conf
[22:53] <tomreyn> Hapzzz: what resolved where?
[22:53] <tomreyn> *resolveS
[22:53] <smkatz> and my problem is that it can't find the drupal7 directory
[22:54] <smkatz> the web browser
[22:54] <ikonia> smkatz: which directory can it not find
[22:54] <smkatz> http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/08/how-to-install-drupal-7-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html
[22:54] <ikonia> smkatz: stop posting the link and answer the questions
[22:54] <ikonia> smkatz: what directory can it not find
[22:54] <smkatz> localhost/drupal7 it can find localhost but not drupal7
[22:54] <smkatz> the link is live, so I wanted to make sure to get it right
[22:55] <ikonia> smkatz: localhost is a hostname not a directory
[22:55] <ikonia> smkatz: exactly what directory are you looking for
[22:55] <smkatz> drupal7
[22:55] <ikonia> smkatz: where though
[22:55] <ikonia> smkatz: where are you looking
[22:55] <JoeyP> Hello, I have a question. I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop to an installation without the GUI. However, I'd love for it not to have certain packages like Open office. Any ideas?
[22:55] <alimj> smkatz: These automated install are making lots of problems.
[22:55] <smkatz> the url is supposed to be in apache...
[22:55] <smkatz> localhost/drupal7/install.php
[22:56] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: this time a bunch of files are there and this computer actually offers to run an application...let me try it on the dimension
[22:56] <ikonia> smkatz: ok, so your looking for the drupal URL, not the directory
[22:56] <JoeyP> I'm running 10.04 btw
[22:56] <smkatz> while the directory cannot be found either
[22:56] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: sounds much better /me crosses fingers
[22:56] <smkatz> but yes, the url
[22:56] <ikonia> smkatz: what happens if you visit http://localhost in a browser
[22:56] <smkatz> it works
[22:57] <ikonia> smkatz: what do you see ?
[22:57] <smkatz> it says that apache is correctly working
[22:57] <solitude88> I'm having trouble getting into the apache channel please don't shoot me for this question. When I create a virtual host and my domain is www.example.com should the ServerName be www.example.com or is it the alias that should be www.example.com
[22:57] <ikonia> !register | somewhere
[22:57] <somewhere> ikonia..and i just don't care about tuxracer extreme because it makes tux look like a bumbling idiot
[22:57] <ikonia> somewhere: sorry, that wasn't for you
[22:58] <ikonia> !register | solitude88
[22:58] <tomreyn> JoeyP: hi, are you saying you are trying to install an ubuntu which will not have a GUI once the installation is complete? i.e. text-mode only?
[22:58] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: this time the cd booted, but when i click "install lubuntu" the screen goes black with a blinking underscore in the top left corner...what does that mean?
[22:58] <ikonia> smkatz: what do you see if you do "ls -la /var/www/drupal"
[22:58] <smkatz> it it is the default webpage for apache by the way
[22:58] <smkatz> or appears to be
[22:58] <smkatz> I'll try that
[22:58] <somewhere> ikonia..i don't know what is going on..why they want to make tux look like an idiot...and also in supertux they want to capture the gnu leader
[22:58] <JoeyP> tomreyn: Yes, I have already done that. It's Ubuntu server 10.04, but I need the GUI to be able to run a Windows XP VM. However, the less I can put on it the better
[22:59] <ikonia> smkatz: what do you see if you do "ls -la /var/www/drupal"
[22:59] <ikonia> somewhere: please stop with the commantary
[22:59] <somewhere> ikonia..well they are ubuntu programs
[22:59] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: this either means that it is booting (can take a while) or that the media is corrupt. there should be another boot menu option where you can have the disc checked for media errors
[22:59] <ikonia> smkatz: what happens if you visit http://localhost/drupal
[22:59] <ikonia> somewhere: no, they are tuxracer problems
[22:59] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: you man need to re-do this with a cd-r instead of cd-rw :-/
[23:00] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: why does a cd-r differ from a cd-rw...also the screen now has a ton of messages...one of which says "bug: soft lockup cpu #0 stuck for 23s!"
[23:01] <tomreyn> JoeyP: so install a light-weight window manager, such as lxde
[23:01] <JoeyP> alright thanks
[23:01] <JoeyP> it'd be sudo apt-get what?
[23:02] <Somelauw> Does anyone use kernel version 3.2.0-4?
[23:02] <somewhere> ikonia..well ubuntu uses gpl code and they are talking about capturing richard stallman and holding him hostage until tux can somehow rescue him
[23:02] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: this message you see on screen is indicative of media errors. cd-rw's can be problematic for booting, cd-Rs are suually less problematic.
[23:02] <bazhang> somewhere, thats enough
[23:02] <smkatz> No such file or directory
[23:02] <smkatz> with that command
[23:02] <ikonia> smkatz: which command
[23:02] <bazhang> Somelauw, whats the issue
[23:02] <smkatz> the ls -la var/www/drupal
[23:02] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: when i tried the regular ubuntu (not lubuntu) with a cd-r, i got the same message, and this was after checking the disk
[23:02] <alimj> smkatz: I can help you to this manually.
[23:03] <ikonia> smkatz: ok, you do not have drupal installed
[23:03] <smkatz> ok
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> Somelauw  3.2 was the kernel used in 12.04
[23:03] <smkatz> let's do it
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> or still is, rather
[23:03] <alimj> visit this page: http://drupal.org/project/drupal
[23:03] <tomreyn> JoeyP: please use my nickname when adressing me, otherwise i can miss it easily. sudo apt-ger install lubuntu-desktop
[23:04] <alimj> copy the link: http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/drupal-7.18.tar.gz
[23:04] <JoeyP> tomreyn: alright thanks!
[23:04] <tomreyn> JoeyP: i had a typo there. do this: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:04] <OerHeks> alimj better give smkatz this url > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[23:04] <alimj> smkatz: cd /var/www
[23:04] <JoeyP> alright great!
[23:04] <joggers> does anyone know how to reinstall a template in ubuntu 12.10?
[23:04] <pitoow> hey guys, How do i mount my windows 7 partition when my ubuntu start?
[23:04] <alimj> smkatz: wget http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/drupal-7.18.tar.gz
[23:05] <pitoow> is there a program that do it automatic ?
[23:05] <alimj> smkatz: Please confirm once the download is finished
[23:05] <alimj> smkatz: So we can go to the next step
[23:05] <smkatz> I downloaded the tar.gz
[23:05] <smkatz> in firefox
[23:05] <rosane> hi all
[23:05] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i tried the disk again and when i selected "check disk for defects" the same message appeared
[23:05] <michagogo> So... Can anyone help me?
[23:05] <tomreyn> joggers: what do you mean by "template"?
[23:06] <alimj> smkatz: Let do everything from the shell
[23:06] <alimj> Forget firefox
[23:06] <smkatz> ok. that's fair
[23:06] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: yes, it's broken, ditch it
[23:06] <smkatz> but I did download the file
[23:06] <alimj> go to shell: then type these commands: cd /var/ww && wget http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/drupal-7.18.tar.gz
[23:06] <tomreyn> michagogo: please repeat your wuestion
[23:06] <tomreyn> *question
[23:06] <alimj> smkatz: forget it. Lets do it again
[23:06] <smkatz> ok
[23:07] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: what can i do to fix this? the iso was fine...would that PLOP boot manager be better to load it off of a flash drive?
[23:07] <michagogo> Okay. I have a new 12.10 VM, installed, did the update thing on first boot, and then when I went to log in on the post-update boot, it said compiz quit unexpectedly or something. Since then, about 15-30 mins, it's just been this:
[23:07] <michagogo> Er
[23:07] <michagogo> One sec, that link dropped onn the clipboard
[23:07] <michagogo> http://i.imgur.com/1YNPK.png
[23:08] <alimj> smkatz: then type: tar -xvzf  drupal-7.18.tar.gz
[23:08] <Hapzzz> anyone?
[23:09] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[23:09] <alimj> smkatz: Then type: mv drupal-7.18 drupal7
[23:09] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: my suggestion was (and still is) that you burn again, but to a cd-r, not cd-rw this time. i do not know "PLOP boot manager". there are ways to boot off a cd-r(w) and chainload an image stored on a USB then, but i have (luckily) never needed to do this.
[23:09] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: this error seems to happen with every iso, every disk (cd-r and cd-rw), and i do not want to keep wasting disks
[23:10] <OerHeks> UltimaKR, try burning slow @ 4x/8x
[23:10] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: it's possible that the cd-reader is broken then?
[23:10] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i checked other disks on my windows partition and they worked successfully...oerheks: i will try that now
[23:11] <alimj> smkatz: Are you there?
[23:11] <smkatz> I have now downloaded it
[23:12] <smkatz> using wget
[23:12] <smkatz> sorry for the delay...
[23:12] <alimj> smkatz: then type: tar -xvzf  drupal-7.18.tar.gz
[23:12] <alimj> You should be in /var/www directory for the above command
[23:13] <hangdeadman> I just installed kde on ubuntu 12.04 and changed the session manager to kde from lightdm, how do i change it back/
[23:14] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i went into windows media player and set the burn speed to slow, and i am using a cd-r this time, so we will see how that goes
[23:15] <alimj> smkatz: Are you following?
[23:15] <tomreyn> michagogo: it looks like you are running ubuntu as a guest/virtual system on a windows host?
[23:16] <michagogo> tomreyn: Indeed.
[23:16] <smkatz> I'm trying to
[23:16] <smkatz> pardon my ignorance
[23:16] <smkatz> what directory do I need to be in again?
[23:16] <alimj> in /var/www
[23:16] <alimj> The file should be there
[23:16] <alimj> Then you should extract the file using the command I provided
[23:17] <hangdeadman> I just installed kde on ubuntu 12.04 and changed the session manager to kde from lightdm, how do i change it back?
[23:17] <Aliv3> Hey guys. So I'm on HP dv7-3085dx I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 I rebooted to install ( using wubi ) it worked for a while. then i opened something and it froze over. now the top bar is whited out except the very right side. also the installation process appears to be frozen, but it was moving very slowly before
[23:17] <smkatz> ok. I think I figured the problem out I missed the leading \
[23:17] <tomreyn> michagogo: you may have assigned inufficient video memory to the VM. you may also need 3D acceleration for compiz effects to work.
[23:17] <Aliv3> and my wifi indicator flashes colors every once and a while ( orange is off, blue is on, you press it to turn off but you can also do it via OS)
[23:17] <michagogo> Oh, I just left it at the default
[23:18] <Aliv3> so how do I get installation to finish/get back my top bar? should I go back to windows and uninstall/reinstall?
[23:18] <michagogo> (virtualbox has an ubuntu preset, I assumed it has reasonable defaults)
[23:18] <tomreyn> michagogo: there should be a menu option to send a ctrl-alt-del to the guest system
[23:18] <FC> excuse me, but can anyone point me to an IRC room that deals with PyLo (the linux version of lord of the rings online)?  I am having difficulties getting it to run with ubuntu
[23:18] <tomreyn> michagogo: it may be also be called something about ACPI. this should power off or reboot the guest system.
[23:19] <alimj> smkatz: At what stage are you? Did you extract the file?
[23:19] <FC> specifically directx 9
[23:19] <hangdeadman> I just installed kde on ubuntu 12.04 and changed the session manager to kde from lightdm, how do i change it back?
[23:19] <Dr_Willis_> hangdeadman:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[23:19] <michagogo> tomreyn: http://i.imgur.com/sYydU.png
[23:19] <Aliv3> any ideas anyone?
[23:19] <michagogo> Those are the defaults
[23:19] <michagogo> Should I be increasing that and turning on the acceleration?
[23:20] <Dr_Willis_> Aliv3:  be easier to make a new user and see if the system works for them
[23:20] <Dr_Willis_> Aliv3:  reinstaling is windows thinking....
[23:20] <Aliv3> woah i took a screenshot and the bar isn't white anymore
[23:20] <hangdeadman> Dr_Willis_: thanks!
[23:20] <Aliv3> no I'm on the ubuntu side right now
[23:21] <tomreyn> michagogo: 12 MB video RAM isn't much, maybe set it to 64 or 128. video acceleration will probably not work until you installed the guest drivers
[23:21] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis: Ubuntu is already opening, just that first install window appears to not be getting anywhere
[23:21] <Dr_Willis_> Aliv3: I dont know what you mean by first install window..
[23:21] <Aliv3> tomreyn: earlier when i tried to make a virtualbox install it gave me some kernel module error then usb
[23:21] <michagogo> tomreyn: Uh-oh.
[23:21] <michagogo> http://i.imgur.com/SgAit.png
[23:22] <michagogo> Wait, it booted
[23:22] <Aliv3> dr_willis_: wubi makes you reboot into ubuntu to finish, theres a window that comes up that finishes the "Install" It says "Copying files..." with a progress bar at the bottom
[23:22] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i get the same error when i use a cd-r that was burned very slowly...it also sounds as though the disk has stopped spinning
[23:22] <aaa801> im getting file not found errors when the file exists, any help? http://i.imgur.com/iRHEs.png
[23:22] <tomreyn> michagogo: lack of swap is not much of a problem, but it can indicate that something went wrong during your installation.
[23:23] <alimj> Ok. I have to go. Bye everyone. See you in other world if Tomorrow Does not Come.!!!
[23:23] <michagogo> tomreyn: BTW, about what you were saying before: There are two different buttons, one for Ctrl-Alt-Del and one for ACPI shutdown
[23:23] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: my last suggestion is that you physically move the cd-rw write to the old computer and attach it there instead and boot using this drive.
[23:23] <Aliv3> i can't get to any programs to paste the screen shot, only think i could get to open is firefox because theres a link in the install window
[23:25] <michagogo> tomreyn: Haven't gotten a message about compiz yet, but I've been at that same screen for a couple minutes now
[23:25] <tomreyn> michagogo: alright, then use the ctrl-alt-del option whenever you want to reboot, and when you just want to power down, use the acpi one. if neither works, you can just close the window, it will result in a hard shutdown such as if a computer had a power loss, so there can be some data loss.
[23:25] <smkatz> ok, thank you for your patience.
[23:25] <smkatz> done.
[23:26] <michagogo> tomreyn: Well, neither of them seem to be doing anything
[23:26] <tomreyn> michagogo: i'm wondering whether your installation may be broken. were any errors reported during your installation? did it finish entirely and say so?
[23:26] <michagogo> I think it did, yeah
[23:27] <tomreyn> michagogo: shut down the hard way, then start it again and hold doen left shift key while it's booting. this should bring up the boot menu, where you can select the recovery option.
[23:27] <michagogo> tomreyn: I'm going to try to do it again
[23:28] <tomreyn> make sure you (mouse) click on the ubuntu VM before holding down shift.
[23:31] <smkatz> do you guys think I should switch to the drupal irc channel? :-)
[23:32] <smkatz> I really, really appreciate your help. my command line skills are rusty
[23:32] <smkatz> and I'm on two computers
[23:33] <RollinV2> smkatz: the command line is your best friend in the world, don't neglect him
[23:33] <smkatz> haha
[23:34] <smkatz> bash is so cool
[23:34] <smkatz> anyway, feel free to link me to instructions after I've extracted the drupal installation fikes
[23:35] <smkatz> *files
[23:35] <smkatz> what should I do next?
[23:35] <OerHeks> smkatz did you see this url > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Drupal
[23:36] <ibi> hi! i have just installed ubuntu precise 12.04 32bit version on a netbook Acer Apire One and webcam not working. Although it is detected and there is a video0 device. My lsusb output: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera. How can i make it work?
[23:37] <tomreyn> ibi: how did you try to make it work and realized it does not work?
[23:39] <ibi> tomreyn: it doesnt work on skype, cheese, guvcview
[23:39] <michagogo> What will Ubuntu 16.10 be code-named?
[23:39] <ibi> black or green screen
[23:39] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: i do not understand your suggestion...now the pc has a black screen
[23:39] <tomreyn> ibi: ok. can you do the follwing and post the URL you get? lsusb -knnv | grep -A10 Camera | pastebinit
[23:40] <michagogo> (if I didn't miscalculate, what's what comes after Z
[23:40] <michagogo> )
[23:40] <OerHeks> michagogo something Y/Y
[23:40] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: am i using a version that is too new for a dell dimension?
[23:40] <michagogo> OerHeks: So after z/z it stars rolling back?
[23:41] <mickster04> clear
[23:41] <Dr_Willis_> michagogo:  then they go to the greek alphabet
[23:41] <mickster04> wrong window sorry
[23:41] <michagogo> !codenames
[23:41] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i'm saying you could disassemble your main PC, disconnect and physically unmount the cd-rw drive, and move it to the stone age PC and connect it to that instead. then boot using this drive and the cd-rw on the old computer.
[23:42] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: this is a laptop so i don't think that would be possible
[23:42] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: oh, right, i guess that makes it much harder.
[23:44] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: is the problem the disk, the computer, or the fact that the newer versions are too much for the old PC?
[23:46] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i'd say it's probably an incompatibility of the cd-reader in the old computer and the cd-rw media / cd-rw writer on the new computer.
[23:46] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: but the exact same thing happens with the cd-r disks
[23:46] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i think you said earlier that there was some other media which did boot properly on the old computer, though, which one was it again?
[23:46] <ibi> basszus irrsi-ben hogy tudok fellapozni ?
[23:46] <ibi> shift pgup nem megy
[23:47] <ibi> már nem emlékszem mit kellett rajta beállítani
[23:47] <tomreyn> !sk | ibi
[23:47] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: cd-r disks failed as well...they all load to the main page where i can click "install lubuntu" but then when i pick any option the blinking cursor appears followed by those bug messages
[23:48] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: the images you downloaded, are they 32 or 64 bit?
[23:48] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: these are 32 bit...not sure the pc could handle 64 bit
[23:49] <tomreyn> okay, then i'm really out of ideas, i'm afraid. 11 years is a loooong time, though.
[23:49] <tomreyn> you could still try the chainloading approach, or to boot from network
[23:49] <Aliv3> apparently unity didn't start
[23:49] <Jikai> Hi! I've followed http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/byteprefix.5.html and restarted session/rebooted computer, but it's not working… Any idea why?
[23:49]  * greys-hade is back (gone 00:20:11)
[23:50] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: why does the PC keep "locking up" though? are there options on the main page that i should set?
[23:50]  * greys-hade is away: PS3 or sleeping or something...
[23:50] <ikonia> !away > greys-hade
[23:51] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: ok this is really weird...the PC showed about 15 of those bug messages, turned black for 15 minutes, and now "lubuntu" with a bunch of dots underneath it appeared
[23:51] <Aliv3> shouldn't the unity side-panel be autohiding?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis_> Aliv3:  not the default any more
[23:51] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i don't thinkt he boot options will help with media sensing (physical read) errors
[23:52] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: since when?
[23:52] <Dr_Willis_> last release or 2
[23:52] <Aliv3> i haven't been on since 11.10
[23:52] <Aliv3> did they make it so unity doesn't autorun also?
[23:52] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: is it at all normal that those errors appeared and then this screen with lubuntu and a bunch of changing dots showed up?
[23:52] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: you could also try to clean the lens of the old computers' cd drive
[23:52] <UltimaKR> i don't know if i should just wait and see what it does next
[23:53] <UltimaKR> i cleaned the lens before i tried any of this, as well as the connector cables
[23:54] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: it's normal, yes. the drive keeps retrying to load the data. it will fail most of the time, but sometimes it willwork, so it can make some progress. but the way this looks you will have a very hard time to finish the installation this way, since some files will simply not be readable.
[23:54] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: so does this mean that if i give it enough time that eventually it should complete, with variable success?
[23:55] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: does unity not autorun anymore too?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis_> Aliv3:  its the default window manager, starts up here as soon as you login.
[23:56] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: didn't for me. i had to do ctrl alt t "unity"
[23:57] <Dr_Willis_> it must hate you. ;P
[23:57] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: everytime I use ubuntu something happens.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis_> it must hate you a lot.. ;P
[23:57] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: I was going to switch to debian, but didn't because of the download size
[23:58] <Dr_Willis_> Unity/compiz may be failing due to 3d issues.. hard to say
[23:58] <Aliv3> Dr_Willis_: i would like it if it worked.. it does hate me
[23:58] <Don_Rad> hi all, im trying to install myunity and there's no package availible, is this possible?
[23:58] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: with variable degress of success, but my bet is the installation, as a whole, will never work out properly. you run into media sensing errors. whenever this is the case, it's basically a lost case.
[23:58] <Dr_Willis_> !info myunity
[23:58] <Dr_Willis_> There used to be a deb for myunity, or a ppa site
[23:59] <Don_Rad> ok
[23:59] <nashant> anyone have any idea how to get hdmi audio working with an integrated radeon 6530d?