=== niska` is now known as niska [01:38] i need to erase 2 thumb drives but cant: "Unable to delete partition: Unrerognized disk label" [01:47] what's the disk label? [01:49] ...now i cant see them at all [01:50] i know one of them was a string of numbers [01:52] they were working just fine untill i tried to erase them [01:53] are you using gparted or something else? [01:54] first with whatever kubuntu 12.04.1 uses, and now with gparted on Ubuntu Studio 12.10 [01:57] I'd open a terminal and run dmesg and see what the kernel has to say about them [02:01] dmesg doesnt look out of the ordinary, but i see no where where it says the label [02:02] heres something: sdd: unknown partition table [02:03] what was the original filesystem on it? [02:04] one was ext2, the other fat32. unknown partition table on the ext2 drive [02:05] that should have been ok [02:07] guess ill give testdisk a shot [02:11] you could try to dd the drive [02:15] better idea === xrs is now known as XRS1 [02:28] hello all [02:29] dd did the trick thanx [02:43] for some reason my chromium-browser keeps crashing. this is in kern.log: pool[4892]: segfault at 10 ip 000000000042e1a7 sp 00007fb2f3ffe9e0 error 4 in gnome-keyring-daemon [02:43] any thoughts? it only started happening after I installed steam beta [03:29] trying to setup something like Windows Internet Connection Sharing with Routing & Remote Access. my other laptop doesnt get reception so i want this: ISP WiFi Router -> Laptop -> ethernet to 2nd wifi router -> 2nd laptop [04:48] sup all. i've an issue with 12.04 xubuntu i was hoping to get some help with [04:48] im uisng the alternative iso [04:49] i want to use full disk encryption [04:49] issue #1. the files xubuntu alternate uses are too long (paths and or filenames) for FAT32 [04:49] fat32 is the fs type recommended for creating USB boot drives [04:49] im sure u can see the obvious flaw here [04:50] never heard of anyone having that issue before [04:50] the check install disc would fail integtrity [04:50] oh there are forums of ppl saying the same thing [04:50] lemme see [04:51] you can use ext2/3/4/ on a usb too [04:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1041911 [04:51] Ubuntu bug 1041911 in linux (Ubuntu) "Integrity Failure Alternative CD Install Failure on 12.04,12.04.1,12.10." [Undecided,Invalid] [04:51] apparently unetbootin wants fat32 [04:51] so i just did what others' suggested and DDed [04:52] i did that and the disc integrity check passed [04:52] tippy [04:52] yippy* [04:52] so i begin install [04:52] setup crypto etc [04:52] reboot [04:52] initramfs fails [04:52] the system will either hang OR i get an initramfs prompt [04:52] lol [04:52] oh and once i got a grub rescue [04:53] i've been trying to install xubuntu on my laptpo for like [04:53] 3 hours [04:53] 12.04 and 12.10 [04:53] 12.10 actually worked... [04:53] then i got updates [04:53] and then it stopped booting rofl [04:53] does the bootloader think the root partition is on the usb? [04:53] !enter [04:53] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [04:53] ill try [04:53] well_laid_lawn: no idea [04:53] i've been curious as to how xubuntus installer even configured its initramfs [04:54] so obviously its failing. i used the same steps in the manual gparted on debian squeeze to do the same full disk encryption with ZERO problems [04:54] however since squeeze is using kernel 0.0.1 [04:54] id rather use xubuntu...however i need full disk crypto. any help or ideas would be useful [04:55] I don't use encryption... did you try to boot before encrypting partitions? [04:56] install xubuntu without full disk crypto? [04:56] no i didn't try that [04:56] seeing as how i want full disk crypto i dont see how that'd help tho [04:56] however i did notice there is a "encrypt home" [04:56] i was wondering how that worked. since xubuntu fails at full disk crypto [04:57] i can settle for just home dir encryption if i had any idea how it worked...is it using luks? [04:57] I'm guessing you missed a step or two [04:57] i doubt it [04:57] !encryption [04:57] For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [04:58] so..do you suggest i just dont use full disk encryption? it seems broken on xubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 [04:58] someone that uses it might be along in a bit - just hang for a while [04:58] k [04:58] also there's a weird item in the installer that isnt a bug but a logical oversight [04:58] when configuring full disk encryption in 12.10 you STILL get the option to encrypt home dir [04:58] which...makes no sense [04:59] there can be more than one user each with their own /home [05:00] with full disk encryption i'd assume /home would be within the encrypted data [05:00] so there's no need to encrypt any directories on top of that [05:00] yeah maybe ill wait for someone with a success story and try to see what they did. i read someone used 11.something with full disk crypto and upgraded to 12.04 [05:00] but thats retarded [05:01] this is definitely a known issue [05:01] who knows? maybe to hide data from other users [05:02] lol. well id prefer full disk crypto. ill try the encrypted home dir...or encrypted home/private dir as it says in this article [05:02] doesn't even encrypt entire ~ ? thats useless [05:12] hi. what is the default xubuntu theme name and icon set name in latest xubuntu? [05:12] help [05:23] greybird is the theme [05:24] elementary xfce dark for the icon theme [05:25] oh wow. internet connection sharing is super easy [05:28] ok [05:28] XRS1, thanks [05:32] does Xubuntu have a netboot.tar.gz ? possibly for a PXE BOOT [05:33] I found the netboot.tar.gz for Ubuntu 12.10 it said my cpu cant support PAE so I tried 11.10 and it worked [05:33] but I want Xubuntu [05:34] and I already have Xubuntu iso downloaded and mounted as /mnt/ubuntu with a symlink to /var/www [05:39] closest i can find: https://forums.ubuntulinux.jp/viewtopic.php?pid=92423 [05:39] so i guess no [05:40] oh wow thanks bro [05:41] its too bad pxelinux.0 is compiled and I cant read the source code *shrugs* [05:45] oh maybe it was my fault I was using netboot for 11.10 and Xubuntu 12.10 [05:45] XRS1, i have downloaded a .tar.gz theme. how can I apply it? [05:46] place your theme files in /usr/share/themes [05:46] thats what I do [05:47] !themes [05:47] To change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes) [05:51] I wanna know why flash for linux sucks *sigh* [05:53] DJJeff: i would take it up with the maintainers/developers [05:54] yah... was just thinking outloud there for a second [10:25] back from LXDE. Apparently OpenBox also behaves weird regarding window decoration or window focusing (in both DEs), but it at least allows dragging windows [10:25] and interacting with 2 windows separately [10:27] ok, seems that xfwm4 allows the latter too. It's only that it doesn't support MPX itself, but the programs working under it can do fine === onefunkynote` is now known as onefunkynote === webmind_ is now known as webmind [12:05] anyone around? [12:06] ? [13:34] are notifications logged somewhere? === VividReality_ is now known as VividReality === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [15:57] question about sshd. when i ssh into my ANYLINUXDISTRO box [15:57] the enter password prompt appears at most 1 second later [15:57] when i ssh into my xubuntu/ubuntu/debian box [15:57] i have to wait like 10 seconds for teh password prompt [15:57] why is this [16:00] how can i boot from a pci card? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:09] Guest52235: change boot order from bios [16:09] torax , it s not recognized by bios [16:11] what pci card you have? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:17] Guest52235: I think you´ll get better help from, maybe some hardware related channel. That issue has nothing to do with ubuntu [16:17] or xubuntu [16:17] torax , thanks [17:03] Hello. I have installed Xubuntu on a old computer in order to learn linux and C++ programming. After typing out my "Hello World!" program I realized that Xubuntu didn't have the g++ program installed. The computer in question can't connect to the internet (no wifi card) so using apt-get is out of the question. How can I obtain the g++ package? [17:06] newbiebyte: download it from the internet and move it over.. the easy way is to hook it up to the internet.. [17:06] newbiebyte: there is a way to make a package manager generate a list of what you need [17:07] How? [17:07] newbiebyte: the easy way is to hook it up to the internet [17:07] That I can't do :( [17:08] well, you can.. and i guarantee thats easier than anything im about to suggest.. but, in synaptic (the package manager) you can go to "file - generate download scirpt" [17:09] if you dont have synaptic, then thats an additional issue.. you can also sometimes get the packages downloaded and use something like apt-on cd [17:09] use the downloaded DVD or whatever as the source [17:10] I'll give it a shot, Thanks! === Egrep is now known as Catbuntu [18:16] Habe auf 2 Rechnern, einer Xubuntu, der Andere Lubuntu, das gleiche Problem dessen Ursache ich nicht kenne: Youtube bremst den Rechner extrem aus. Videos werden langsam geladen, die Bedienung des Rechners ist für etliche Sekunden nicht möglich. Ist das vielleicht ein bekanntes Problem? [18:17] !de [18:17] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [18:18] jochen: ^^ [18:19] jochen: try to enable html5. Are you using the flash package? [18:19] or check out the drivers [18:19] !ati [18:19] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [18:20] Yes I have understand this. First I have to learn an ohter language. Tnx. [19:57] oh [19:57] quesiton about every debian and debian based distro [19:57] why [19:57] in a terminal [19:57] do i get this funky character at the end of the output [19:57] no matter what command [19:58] i mean...i guess its more of a debian issue but was wondering if someone here knew [19:59] alphis: ~$ ? [19:59] lol [19:59] cute [19:59] but no [19:59] its more like [19:59] )(U#IRJOIDSFJKDF [20:00] alphis: feel free and paste *exactly* what it is [20:00] its definitely related to some utf-8 nonsense [20:00] alphis: keyboard broken? [20:00] can't i dont have access to that box atm..... [20:00] lol [20:00] no [20:00] more like debian broken [20:00] im beginning to wonder why ppl use that distro [20:01] alphis: i have found all my issues with debian to be just that.. my issues [20:01] not me [20:01] ive found issues with xubuntu specifically related to the alt cd/dvd [20:01] with full disk crypto being broken [20:02] works in stable deb tho [20:02] alphis: you might want to entertain that it could be something related to how you are using it.. or just choose not to use it [20:02] my only issue with deb is that everything is old and the terminal spits out horrid chars [20:02] i cant entertain that idea [20:02] as it would be incorrect [20:02] its a known issue [20:02] alphis: there are different versions... stable and less stable... more cutting edge [20:03] alphis: i am unaware of what you are talking about.. i see no characters [20:03] plus, just dont open the terminal if thats is the root of your concern.. or visit a debian support channel [20:04] not opening the terminal doesn't solve anything holstein. ill paste the chars when i get access to the machine [20:04] and the version of xubuntu with the full disk crypto issues are 12.04 and 12.10 [20:04] alphis: it would solve you from seeing said characters.. [20:04] alphis: what issues are you referring to? [20:04] not if i need to use the terminal [20:05] issues of not booting [20:05] alphis: we can take the debian convo to the offtopic channel if you like, otherwise... [20:05] alphis: whats not booting? [20:05] debis off topic but the cryto isnt [20:05] alphis: both 12.04 and 12.10 boot for me [20:05] have u tried full disk crypto with luks? [20:06] i have done that with 12.10.. i say, if the question is, 12.04 or 12.10.. i say, 12.04.. its LTS [20:06] its been unable to boot either [20:06] after installation [20:06] it will reboot [20:07] and never come back [20:07] its happened several times [20:07] alphis: feel free and come here with more info and myself or one of the other volunteers can assist [20:07] what more info do u need? [20:07] i tried all last night [20:07] alphis: i would test the hardware [20:07] hardware works [20:07] it was running slack no problem [20:07] gentoo no problem [20:07] i decided to install xubuntu so i dont have to compile all day [20:07] or write my own initramfs [20:08] which i dont MIND [20:08] as it WORKS [20:08] however xubuntu's auto magical stuff [20:08] has some issues [20:08] i can show u the steps i made to setup gparted disks [20:08] thereis a youtube video shoing how to do it [20:08] alphis: thats is the info i, or others will need.. more specific info [20:08] i based it off that [20:09] ive given u lots of info. asking for more without specifying doesn't help [20:09] i can tell u my partitions if u like [20:09] or the mediumi used to install [20:09] alphis: anything you find relevant.. 12.10? 12.04? 32bit? 64? what machine? have you tested the hard drive? [20:09] what error messages? [20:09] its 12.04 [20:09] 32bit [20:09] i've also tried 12.10 32bit [20:10] alphis: stick to one for now, and let me know the details [20:10] keep in mind 12.04 and lower require the ALTERNATE isos for full disk [20:10] im giving u details for 12.04 LTS [20:10] im also using USB as a installation medium [20:11] i've verified the isos [20:11] cool.. hopefully one of the volunteers will sort through it. you could try #ubuntu since its not really an XFCE or xubuntu specific issue... maybe not an issue at all from what i read [20:11] .. [20:11] lol u haven't installed a working full disk encrypted xubuntu have u [20:12] if i sak in ubuntu thetll ask why im using xubuntu and asking in ubuntu [20:12] alphis: we have to do tests for the qa testing [20:12] yeah i doubt anyone tested alternate install [20:12] alphis: waht is the issue? its not booting? [20:12] via USB [20:12] yes [20:12] boots into either [20:12] initramfs [20:12] how is it failing? [20:12] or [20:12] grub rescue [20:13] more often tho [20:13] it boots into NOTHING [20:13] aka black screen [20:13] alphis: and you have tested the disk? [20:13] yes [20:13] i did disk integrity test [20:14] which verified that the disk is bad when i initially tried it [20:14] <-- going back to beginning [20:14] the disk WAS bad i verified via the check disk tool [20:14] i fixed that [20:14] and am where i am now [20:14] but...if u wanna know more about WHY it was bad [20:14] its in the unetbootin explaination on creating bootable USB drives [20:14] which if u guys ACTUALLY QAd [20:15] ud find that the filesystem ur alternate cd/dvd uses [20:15] is completely incompatible with fat32 [20:15] which is what they say to use [20:15] that caused files to not be copied and disc integrity to fail [20:15] wats the question [20:15] well im giving holstein background on the TWO things that failed [20:16] one of which i fixed [20:16] the current and remaining issue is xubuntu ALTERNATE INSTALL FULL DISK CRYPTO failing to boot [20:16] in 12.04 LTS 32bit [20:20] alphis: can you see if this is your issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/172323/boot-screen-missing-on-ubuntu-12-04 [20:20] assuming its just a black screen hanging there... [20:21] lol [20:21] no [20:21] am i not explaining the issue correctly? [20:21] its a black screen with NOTHING on it. [20:21] alphis: you had said you booted up to a black screen.. correct? [20:21] that article has a blck screen with a PROMPT that WORKS on it [20:22] i give u credit for being a troll [20:22] alphis: cool.. im just wondering if the promt is there, and just not being shown [20:22] if it was there i would have said so [20:22] alphis: feel free and wait patiently for another volunteer to help.. cheers [20:22] that articles system also booted correctly [20:22] it just had a black screen...that worked...and booted [20:23] my system has a black screen that doesn't do anything...and does not boot [20:23] i dont see how u could have confused the two [20:23] alphis: i was thinking you could assume you are not seeing the promt.. and try inputting the information [20:23] i would have tried that too [20:24] however the black screen happens also AFTER a prompt for password [20:24] case 1) boot into initramfs [20:24] case 2) boot into grub rescue [20:24] alphis: OK.. so you have already tried my suggestion then.. no worries.. try and just say that in the future... [20:25] case 3) boots into black screen with prompt OR graphical blue screen with prompt. enter password. says CORRECTLY DECRYPTED... proceeds to NOT BOOT AT ALL [20:25] case 4) boot into black screen with zero interaction [20:25] those are the 4 cases i've seen... [20:25] its clearly unstable [20:25] i think it'd be easier if u reproduced this issue [20:25] its easy [20:25] requirements are [20:25] use xubuntu 12.04 32bit [20:26] boot via USB [20:26] install with full disk encryption [20:26] thats all. [20:26] alphis: you have a bug report filed? [20:26] observe hours of annoyance and frustration [20:26] no i searched and found various people have the same issue [20:26] all unsolved [20:26] the only solution one guy had [20:27] was to install 11.something full disk and upgraded to 12.04 [20:27] which i dont want to do [20:27] or, solved without reporting... i could do that in VM.. not via USB, though i dont think that is the issue.. [20:27] i might as well just install gentoo and build my system from scratch again. at least it works flawlessly. just takes like..a DAY [20:27] i think it is related [20:27] considering the integrity issues before [20:27] alphis: to the USB install media? [20:27] i suspect USB installation and alternate is related [20:28] alphis: maybe you can just try installing from a CD and rule that out.. i could do it in VM [20:28] i can't... [20:28] if would have done that but this is a slim laptop [20:28] no optical drive [20:28] and i dont have a usb cdrom [20:28] i've installed countless distros on this and my other laptops. this is the first time i've had this issue. [20:28] although i did learn something interesting about fat32 and isos [20:29] you can install on other hardware and move the disk over... [20:29] i suppose but the hardware would be drastically different [20:29] plus i'd have to open stuff up repeatedly [20:29] wont matter as long as you dont install proprietary drivers [20:30] i keep forgetting most linux distros these days are't optimized at all [20:30] i suppose thats true [20:30] but it would be a giant pain [20:30] alphis: link me the exact iso you got [20:30] just to test if the USB is he issue [20:30] alphis: if you think the USB is the issue, then this will work, and there will be no issue [20:30] http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso [20:31] holstein: that wont solve the problem. what abot others who install via USB. its very common [20:31] alphis: then it wont matter that i test in VM? [20:32] shouldn't [20:32] just use usb medium [20:32] alphis: i cant.. and wont be able to today [20:32] k [20:32] i need to download that iso.. and intall.. that'll be like 20+minutes [20:32] the torrent is pretty fast [20:33] alphis: that what im about to do.. is this acceptable?.. what are the possible scenarios?.. i test and it works... i test and it fails.. what happens in both? [20:33] if prefer actual hardware [20:33] however vm should suffice [20:33] as long as other params are the same [20:33] ie: usb [20:33] and full disk [20:33] crypto [20:33] i will also try that [20:33] alphis: i do not have time to do with in actuall hardware today.. what are the possible outcomes? what happens? [20:33] when i get home as well [20:34] outcomes are [20:34] after installation [20:34] it will ask u to reboot [20:34] once u reboot it will just not boot [20:34] or [20:34] alphis: what happens when either my install A. works, or B. doenst work ? [20:34] ask for password [20:34] then not boot [20:34] or [20:34] boot into grub or boot into initramfs [20:34] alphis: im trying to decide if im going to take 20+ miutes and do this... [20:34] i think its worth it. most ppl install via USB these days [20:34] alphis: will you start a bug report? and link me? [20:34] if ud like me to sure [20:35] theres no need for us to waste time here we dont document [20:35] here's the only interactive medium [20:35] but i can file a bug report too [20:35] 15:35 < alphis> here's the only interactive medium [20:36] ^^ i have no idea what that means [20:36] you mean, IRC is the interactive medium? i get that.. but im only interested in getting this fixed, and starting a proper bug is how that happens [20:36] agreed [20:36] you wont join a channel and get this fixed [20:37] clearly [20:37] thinking about it again [20:37] i dont think USB is the issue [20:37] alphis: its just not thw way it works.. there are no dev's here for that purpose.. this is a community support channel [20:37] i will try to reproduce with CD as well [20:37] i used same USB to isntall NON full disk encryption [20:37] works fine [20:37] its just alternate with full disk crypto that fals [20:42] u might be interested in: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180218/why-does-integrity-check-fail-for-the-12-04-1-alternate-iso [20:42] its not about my current isssue but its about my FIRST issue that this guy couldn't solve and resulted in just installing DESKTOP (aka not full encryption) [20:43] alphis: thats the 64bit iso [20:44] thats all pre-installation anyway [20:45] well the issue exists for 32bit as well [20:45] its universal [20:45] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1041911 if you feel that bug effects you [20:45] Ubuntu bug 1041911 in linux (Ubuntu) "Integrity Failure Alternative CD Install Failure on 12.04,12.04.1,12.10." [Undecided,Invalid] [20:45] and yes its the first issue...pre installation but its a KNOWN issue [20:46] alphis: they are different isos, and the integrity check is not the issue, correct? [20:46] integrity check is not MY current issue no. [20:46] BOTH isos suffer that issue [20:46] i dont think anyonw will argue there are current issues [20:47] yeah i agree. its a shitstorm with canonical sening people's searches to ads. [20:47] i think thats a feature of the unity env tho right [20:47] folks are saying dd creates an error free image [20:47] hopefully xfce doesn't do that [20:47] alphis: watch the language please [20:47] holstein: correct [20:48] holstein: thats exactly how i fixed my integrity issues [20:48] wait..what language [20:48] alphis: cononical pays the bills here.. making it possible for xfce and other packages to be hosted [20:48]