[01:38] <xrs> i need to erase 2 thumb drives but cant: "Unable to delete partition: Unrerognized disk label"
[01:47] <well_laid_lawn> what's the disk label?
[01:49] <xrs> ...now i cant see them at all
[01:50] <xrs> i know one of them was a string of numbers
[01:52] <xrs> they were working just fine untill i tried to erase them
[01:53] <well_laid_lawn> are you using gparted or something else?
[01:54] <xrs> first with whatever kubuntu 12.04.1 uses, and now with gparted on Ubuntu Studio 12.10
[01:57] <well_laid_lawn> I'd open a terminal and run   dmesg   and see what the kernel has to say about them
[02:01] <xrs> dmesg doesnt look out of the ordinary, but i see no where where it says the label
[02:02] <xrs>  heres something: sdd: unknown partition table
[02:03] <well_laid_lawn> what was the original filesystem on it?
[02:04] <xrs> one was ext2, the other fat32. unknown partition table on the ext2 drive
[02:05] <well_laid_lawn> that should have been ok
[02:07] <xrs> guess ill give testdisk a shot
[02:11] <well_laid_lawn> you could try to dd the drive
[02:15] <xrs> better idea
[02:28] <eggggs> hello all
[02:29] <XRS1> dd did the trick thanx
[02:43] <mazda01> for some reason my chromium-browser keeps crashing. this is in kern.log: pool[4892]: segfault at 10 ip 000000000042e1a7 sp 00007fb2f3ffe9e0 error 4 in gnome-keyring-daemon
[02:43] <mazda01> any thoughts? it only started happening after I installed steam beta
[03:29] <XRS1> trying to setup something like Windows Internet Connection Sharing with Routing & Remote Access. my other laptop doesnt get reception so i want this: ISP WiFi Router -> Laptop -> ethernet to 2nd wifi router -> 2nd laptop
[04:48] <alphis> sup all. i've an issue with 12.04 xubuntu i was hoping to get some help with
[04:48] <alphis> im uisng the alternative iso
[04:49] <alphis> i want to use full disk encryption
[04:49] <alphis> issue #1. the files xubuntu alternate uses are too long (paths and or filenames) for FAT32
[04:49] <alphis> fat32 is the fs type recommended for creating USB boot drives
[04:49] <alphis> im sure u can see the obvious flaw here
[04:50] <well_laid_lawn> never heard of anyone having that issue before
[04:50] <alphis> the check install disc would fail integtrity
[04:50] <alphis> oh there are forums of ppl saying the same thing
[04:50] <alphis> lemme see
[04:51] <well_laid_lawn> you can use ext2/3/4/ on a usb too
[04:51] <alphis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1041911
[04:51] <alphis> apparently unetbootin wants fat32
[04:51] <alphis> so i just did what others' suggested and DDed
[04:52] <alphis> i did that and the disc integrity check passed
[04:52] <alphis> tippy
[04:52] <alphis> yippy*
[04:52] <alphis> so i begin install
[04:52] <alphis> setup crypto etc
[04:52] <alphis> reboot
[04:52] <alphis> initramfs fails
[04:52] <alphis> the system will either hang OR i get an initramfs prompt
[04:52] <alphis> lol
[04:52] <alphis> oh and once i got a grub rescue
[04:53] <alphis> i've been trying to install xubuntu on my laptpo for like
[04:53] <alphis> 3 hours
[04:53] <alphis> 12.04 and 12.10
[04:53] <alphis> 12.10 actually worked...
[04:53] <alphis> then i got updates
[04:53] <alphis> and then it stopped booting rofl
[04:53] <well_laid_lawn> does the bootloader think the root partition is on the usb?
[04:53] <well_laid_lawn> !enter
[04:53] <alphis> ill try
[04:53] <alphis> well_laid_lawn: no idea
[04:53] <alphis> i've been curious as to how xubuntus installer even configured its initramfs
[04:54] <alphis> so obviously its failing. i used the same steps in the manual gparted on debian squeeze to do the same full disk encryption with ZERO problems
[04:54] <alphis> however since squeeze is using kernel 0.0.1
[04:54] <alphis> id rather use xubuntu...however i need full disk crypto. any help or ideas would be useful
[04:55] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use encryption... did you try to boot before encrypting partitions?
[04:56] <alphis> install xubuntu without full disk crypto?
[04:56] <alphis> no i didn't try that
[04:56] <alphis> seeing as how i want full disk crypto i dont see how that'd help tho
[04:56] <alphis> however i did notice there is a "encrypt home"
[04:56] <alphis> i was wondering how that worked. since xubuntu fails at full disk crypto
[04:57] <alphis> i can settle for just home dir encryption if i had any idea how it worked...is it using luks?
[04:57] <well_laid_lawn> I'm guessing you missed a step or two
[04:57] <alphis> i doubt it
[04:57] <well_laid_lawn> !encryption
[04:58] <alphis> so..do you suggest i just dont use full disk encryption? it seems broken on xubuntu 12.04 and 12.10
[04:58] <well_laid_lawn> someone that uses it might be along in a bit - just hang for a while
[04:58] <alphis> k
[04:58] <alphis> also there's a weird item in the installer that isnt a bug but a logical oversight
[04:58] <alphis> when configuring full disk encryption in 12.10 you STILL get the option to encrypt home dir
[04:58] <alphis> which...makes no sense
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> there can be more than one user each with their own /home
[05:00] <alphis> with full disk encryption i'd assume /home would be within the encrypted data
[05:00] <alphis> so there's no need to encrypt any directories on top of that
[05:00] <alphis> yeah maybe ill wait for someone with a success story and try to see what they did. i read someone used 11.something with full disk crypto and upgraded to 12.04
[05:00] <alphis> but thats retarded
[05:01] <alphis> this is definitely a known issue
[05:01] <well_laid_lawn> who knows? maybe to hide data from other users
[05:02] <alphis> lol. well id prefer full disk crypto. ill try the encrypted home dir...or encrypted home/private dir as it says in this article
[05:02] <alphis> doesn't even encrypt entire ~ ? thats useless
[05:12] <Abhijit> hi. what is the default xubuntu theme name and icon set name in latest xubuntu?
[05:12] <Abhijit> help
[05:23] <XRS1> greybird is the theme
[05:24] <XRS1> elementary xfce dark for the icon theme
[05:25] <XRS1> oh wow. internet connection sharing is super easy
[05:28] <Abhijit> ok
[05:28] <Abhijit> XRS1, thanks
[05:32] <DJJeff> does Xubuntu have a netboot.tar.gz ? possibly for a PXE BOOT
[05:33] <DJJeff> I found the netboot.tar.gz for Ubuntu 12.10 it said my cpu cant support PAE so I tried 11.10 and it worked
[05:33] <DJJeff> but I want Xubuntu
[05:34] <DJJeff> and I already have Xubuntu iso downloaded and mounted as /mnt/ubuntu with a symlink to /var/www
[05:39] <XRS1> closest i can find: https://forums.ubuntulinux.jp/viewtopic.php?pid=92423
[05:39] <XRS1> so i guess no
[05:40] <DJJeff> oh wow thanks bro
[05:41] <DJJeff> its too bad pxelinux.0 is compiled and I cant read the source code *shrugs*
[05:45] <DJJeff> oh maybe it was my fault I was using netboot for 11.10 and Xubuntu 12.10
[05:45] <Abhijit> XRS1, i have downloaded  a .tar.gz theme. how can I apply it?
[05:46] <DJJeff> place your theme files in /usr/share/themes
[05:46] <DJJeff> thats what I do
[05:47] <well_laid_lawn> !themes
[05:51] <DJJeff> I wanna know why flash for linux sucks *sigh*
[05:53] <holstein> DJJeff: i would take it up with the maintainers/developers
[05:54] <DJJeff> yah... was just thinking outloud there for a second
[10:25] <cousteau> back from LXDE.  Apparently OpenBox also behaves weird regarding window decoration or window focusing (in both DEs), but it at least allows dragging windows
[10:25] <cousteau> and interacting with 2 windows separately
[10:27] <cousteau> ok, seems that xfwm4 allows the latter too.  It's only that it doesn't support MPX itself, but the programs working under it can do fine
[12:05] <MTW> anyone around?
[12:06] <webmind> ?
[13:34] <elena-IK> are notifications logged somewhere?
[15:57] <alphis> question about sshd. when i ssh into my ANYLINUXDISTRO box
[15:57] <alphis> the enter password prompt appears at most 1 second later
[15:57] <alphis> when i ssh into my xubuntu/ubuntu/debian box
[15:57] <alphis> i have to wait like 10 seconds for teh password prompt
[15:57] <alphis> why is this
[16:00] <Guest52235> how can i boot from a pci card?
[16:09] <torax> Guest52235: change boot order from bios
[16:09] <Guest52235> torax , it s not recognized by bios
[16:11] <torax> what pci card you have?
[16:17] <torax> Guest52235: I think you´ll get better help from, maybe some hardware related channel. That issue has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:17] <torax> or xubuntu
[16:17] <Guest52235> torax , thanks
[17:03] <newbiebyte> Hello. I have installed Xubuntu on a old computer in order to learn linux and C++ programming. After typing out my "Hello World!" program I realized that Xubuntu didn't have the g++ program installed. The computer in question can't connect to the internet (no wifi card) so using apt-get is out of the question. How can I obtain the g++ package?
[17:06] <holstein> newbiebyte: download it from the internet and move it over.. the easy way is to hook it up to the internet..
[17:06] <holstein> newbiebyte: there is a way to make a package manager generate a list of what you need
[17:07] <newbiebyte> How?
[17:07] <holstein> newbiebyte: the easy way is to hook it up to the internet
[17:07] <newbiebyte> That I can't do :(
[17:08] <holstein> well, you can.. and i guarantee thats easier than anything im about to suggest.. but, in synaptic (the package manager) you can go to "file - generate download scirpt"
[17:09] <holstein> if you dont have synaptic, then thats an additional issue.. you can also sometimes get the packages downloaded and use something like apt-on cd
[17:09] <holstein> use the downloaded DVD or whatever as the source
[17:10] <newbiebyte> I'll give it a shot, Thanks!
[18:16] <jochen> Habe auf 2 Rechnern, einer Xubuntu, der Andere Lubuntu, das gleiche Problem dessen Ursache ich nicht kenne: Youtube bremst den Rechner extrem aus. Videos werden langsam geladen, die Bedienung des Rechners ist für etliche Sekunden nicht möglich. Ist das vielleicht ein bekanntes Problem?
[18:17] <holstein> !de
[18:18] <holstein> jochen: ^^
[18:19] <baizon> jochen: try to enable html5. Are you using the flash package?
[18:19] <holstein> or check out the drivers
[18:19] <holstein> !ati
[18:20] <jochen> Yes I have understand this. First I have to learn an ohter language. Tnx.
[19:57] <alphis> oh
[19:57] <alphis> quesiton about every debian and debian based distro
[19:57] <alphis> why
[19:57] <alphis> in a terminal
[19:57] <alphis> do i get this funky character at the end of the output
[19:57] <alphis> no matter what command
[19:58] <alphis> i mean...i guess its more of a debian issue but was wondering if someone here knew
[19:59] <holstein> alphis: ~$ ?
[19:59] <alphis> lol
[19:59] <alphis> cute
[19:59] <alphis> but no
[19:59] <alphis> its more like
[19:59] <alphis> )(U#IRJOIDSFJKDF
[20:00] <holstein> alphis: feel free and paste *exactly* what it is
[20:00] <alphis> its definitely related to some utf-8 nonsense
[20:00] <baizon> alphis: keyboard broken?
[20:00] <alphis> can't i dont have access to that box atm.....
[20:00] <alphis> lol
[20:00] <alphis> no
[20:00] <alphis> more like debian broken
[20:00] <alphis> im beginning to wonder why ppl use that distro
[20:01] <holstein> alphis: i have found all my issues with debian to be just that.. my issues
[20:01] <alphis> not me
[20:01] <alphis> ive found issues with xubuntu specifically related to the alt cd/dvd
[20:01] <alphis> with full disk crypto being broken
[20:02] <alphis> works in stable deb tho
[20:02] <holstein> alphis: you might want to entertain that it could be something related to how you are using it.. or just choose not to use it
[20:02] <alphis> my only issue with deb is that everything is old and the terminal spits out horrid chars
[20:02] <alphis> i cant entertain that idea
[20:02] <alphis> as it would be incorrect
[20:02] <alphis> its a known issue
[20:02] <holstein> alphis: there are different versions... stable and less stable... more cutting edge
[20:03] <holstein> alphis: i am unaware of what you are talking about.. i see no characters
[20:03] <holstein> plus, just dont open the terminal if thats is the root of your concern.. or visit a debian support channel
[20:04] <alphis> not opening the terminal doesn't solve anything holstein. ill paste the chars when i get access to the machine
[20:04] <alphis> and the version of xubuntu with the full disk crypto issues are 12.04 and 12.10
[20:04] <holstein> alphis: it would solve you from seeing said characters..
[20:04] <holstein> alphis: what issues are you referring to?
[20:04] <alphis> not if i need to use the terminal
[20:05] <alphis> issues of not booting
[20:05] <holstein> alphis: we can take the debian convo to the offtopic channel if you like, otherwise...
[20:05] <holstein> alphis: whats not booting?
[20:05] <alphis> debis off topic but the cryto isnt
[20:05] <holstein> alphis: both 12.04 and 12.10 boot for me
[20:05] <alphis> have u tried full disk crypto with luks?
[20:06] <holstein> i have done that with 12.10.. i say, if the question is, 12.04 or 12.10.. i say, 12.04.. its LTS
[20:06] <alphis> its been unable to boot either
[20:06] <alphis> after installation
[20:06] <alphis> it will reboot
[20:07] <alphis> and never come back
[20:07] <alphis> its happened several times
[20:07] <holstein> alphis: feel free and come here with more info and myself or one of the other volunteers can assist
[20:07] <alphis> what more info do u need?
[20:07] <alphis> i tried all last night
[20:07] <holstein> alphis: i would test the hardware
[20:07] <alphis> hardware works
[20:07] <alphis> it was running slack no problem
[20:07] <alphis> gentoo no problem
[20:07] <alphis> i decided to install xubuntu so i dont have to compile all day
[20:07] <alphis> or write my own initramfs
[20:08] <alphis> which i dont MIND
[20:08] <alphis> as it WORKS
[20:08] <alphis> however xubuntu's auto magical stuff
[20:08] <alphis> has some issues
[20:08] <alphis> i can show u the steps i made to setup gparted disks
[20:08] <alphis> thereis a youtube video shoing how to do it
[20:08] <holstein> alphis: thats is the info i, or others will need.. more specific info
[20:08] <alphis> i based it off that
[20:09] <alphis> ive given u lots of info. asking for more without specifying doesn't help
[20:09] <alphis> i can tell u my partitions if u like
[20:09] <alphis> or the mediumi used to install
[20:09] <holstein> alphis: anything you find relevant.. 12.10? 12.04? 32bit? 64? what machine? have you tested the hard drive?
[20:09] <holstein> what error messages?
[20:09] <alphis> its 12.04
[20:09] <alphis> 32bit
[20:09] <alphis> i've also tried 12.10 32bit
[20:10] <holstein> alphis: stick to one for now, and let me know the details
[20:10] <alphis> keep in mind 12.04 and lower require the ALTERNATE isos for full disk
[20:10] <alphis> im giving u details for 12.04 LTS
[20:10] <alphis> im also using USB as a installation medium
[20:11] <alphis> i've verified the isos
[20:11] <holstein> cool.. hopefully one of the volunteers will sort through it. you could try #ubuntu since its not really an XFCE or xubuntu specific issue... maybe not an issue at all from what i read
[20:11] <alphis> ..
[20:11] <alphis> lol u haven't installed a working full disk encrypted xubuntu have u
[20:12] <alphis> if i sak in ubuntu thetll ask why im using xubuntu and asking in ubuntu
[20:12] <holstein> alphis: we have to do tests for the qa testing
[20:12] <alphis> yeah i doubt anyone tested alternate install
[20:12] <holstein> alphis: waht is the issue? its not booting?
[20:12] <alphis> via USB
[20:12] <alphis> yes
[20:12] <alphis> boots into either
[20:12] <alphis> initramfs
[20:12] <holstein> how is it failing?
[20:12] <alphis> or
[20:12] <alphis> grub rescue
[20:13] <alphis> more often tho
[20:13] <alphis> it boots into NOTHING
[20:13] <alphis> aka black screen
[20:13] <holstein> alphis: and you have tested the disk?
[20:13] <alphis> yes
[20:13] <alphis> i did disk integrity test
[20:14] <alphis> which verified that the disk is bad when i initially tried it
[20:14] <alphis> <-- going back to beginning
[20:14] <alphis> the disk WAS bad i verified via the check disk tool
[20:14] <alphis> i fixed that
[20:14] <alphis> and am where i am now
[20:14] <alphis> but...if u wanna know more about WHY it was bad
[20:14] <alphis> its in the unetbootin explaination on creating bootable USB drives
[20:14] <alphis> which if u guys ACTUALLY QAd
[20:15] <alphis> ud find that the filesystem ur alternate cd/dvd uses
[20:15] <alphis> is completely incompatible with fat32
[20:15] <alphis> which is what they say to use
[20:15] <alphis> that caused files to not be copied and disc integrity to fail
[20:15] <heoyea> wats the question
[20:15] <alphis> well im giving holstein background on the TWO things that failed
[20:16] <alphis> one of which i fixed
[20:16] <alphis> the current and remaining issue is xubuntu ALTERNATE INSTALL FULL DISK CRYPTO failing to boot
[20:16] <alphis> in 12.04 LTS 32bit
[20:20] <holstein> alphis: can you see if this is your issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/172323/boot-screen-missing-on-ubuntu-12-04
[20:20] <holstein> assuming its just a black screen hanging there...
[20:21] <alphis> lol
[20:21] <alphis> no
[20:21] <alphis> am i not explaining the issue correctly?
[20:21] <alphis> its a black screen with NOTHING on it.
[20:21] <holstein> alphis: you had said you booted up to a black screen.. correct?
[20:21] <alphis> that article has a blck screen with a PROMPT that WORKS on it
[20:22] <alphis> i give u credit for being a troll
[20:22] <holstein> alphis: cool.. im just wondering if the promt is there, and just not being shown
[20:22] <alphis> if it was there i would have said so
[20:22] <holstein> alphis: feel free and wait patiently for another volunteer to help.. cheers
[20:22] <alphis> that articles system also booted correctly
[20:22] <alphis> it just had a black screen...that worked...and booted
[20:23] <alphis> my system has a black screen that doesn't do anything...and does not boot
[20:23] <alphis> i dont see how u could have confused the two
[20:23] <holstein> alphis: i was thinking you could assume you are not seeing the promt.. and try inputting the information
[20:23] <alphis> i would have tried that too
[20:24] <alphis> however the black screen happens also AFTER a prompt for password
[20:24] <alphis> case 1) boot into initramfs
[20:24] <alphis> case 2) boot into grub rescue
[20:24] <holstein> alphis: OK.. so you have already tried my suggestion then.. no worries.. try and just say that in the future...
[20:25] <alphis> case 3) boots into black screen with prompt OR graphical blue screen with prompt. enter password. says CORRECTLY DECRYPTED... proceeds to NOT BOOT AT ALL
[20:25] <alphis> case 4) boot into black screen with zero interaction
[20:25] <alphis> those are the 4 cases i've seen...
[20:25] <alphis> its clearly unstable
[20:25] <alphis> i think it'd be easier if u reproduced this issue
[20:25] <alphis> its easy
[20:25] <alphis> requirements are
[20:25] <alphis> use xubuntu 12.04 32bit
[20:26] <alphis> boot via USB
[20:26] <alphis> install with full disk encryption
[20:26] <alphis> thats all.
[20:26] <holstein> alphis: you have a bug report filed?
[20:26] <alphis> observe hours of annoyance and frustration
[20:26] <alphis> no i searched and found various people have the same issue
[20:26] <alphis> all unsolved
[20:26] <alphis> the only solution one guy had
[20:27] <alphis> was to install 11.something full disk and upgraded to 12.04
[20:27] <alphis> which i dont want to do
[20:27] <holstein> or, solved without reporting... i could do that in VM.. not via USB, though i dont think that is the issue..
[20:27] <alphis> i might as well just install gentoo and build my system from scratch again. at least it works flawlessly. just takes like..a DAY
[20:27] <alphis> i think it is related
[20:27] <alphis> considering the integrity issues before
[20:27] <holstein> alphis: to the USB install media?
[20:27] <alphis> i suspect USB installation and alternate is related
[20:28] <holstein> alphis: maybe you can just try installing from a CD and rule that out.. i could do it in VM
[20:28] <alphis> i can't...
[20:28] <alphis> if would have done that but this is a slim laptop
[20:28] <alphis> no optical drive
[20:28] <alphis> and i dont have a usb cdrom
[20:28] <alphis> i've installed countless distros on this and my other laptops. this is the first time i've had this issue.
[20:28] <alphis> although i did learn something interesting about fat32 and isos
[20:29] <holstein> you can install on other hardware and move the disk over...
[20:29] <alphis> i suppose but the hardware would be drastically different
[20:29] <alphis> plus i'd have to open stuff up repeatedly
[20:29] <holstein> wont matter as long as you dont install proprietary drivers
[20:30] <alphis> i keep forgetting most linux distros these days are't optimized at all
[20:30] <alphis> i suppose thats true
[20:30] <alphis> but it would be a giant pain
[20:30] <holstein> alphis: link me the exact iso you got
[20:30] <alphis> just to test if the USB is he issue
[20:30] <holstein> alphis: if you think the USB is the issue, then this will work, and there will be no issue
[20:30] <alphis> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/12.04/release/xubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso
[20:31] <alphis> holstein: that wont solve the problem. what abot others who install via USB. its very common
[20:31] <holstein> alphis: then it wont matter that i test in VM?
[20:32] <alphis> shouldn't
[20:32] <alphis> just use usb medium
[20:32] <holstein> alphis: i cant.. and wont be able to today
[20:32] <alphis> k
[20:32] <holstein> i need to download that iso.. and intall.. that'll be like 20+minutes
[20:32] <alphis> the torrent is pretty fast
[20:33] <holstein> alphis: that what im about to do.. is this acceptable?.. what are the possible scenarios?.. i test and it works... i test and it fails.. what happens in both?
[20:33] <alphis> if prefer actual hardware
[20:33] <alphis> however vm should suffice
[20:33] <alphis> as long as other params are the same
[20:33] <alphis> ie: usb
[20:33] <alphis> and full disk
[20:33] <alphis> crypto
[20:33] <alphis> i will also try that
[20:33] <holstein> alphis: i do not have time to do with in actuall hardware today.. what are the possible outcomes? what happens?
[20:33] <alphis> when i get home as well
[20:34] <alphis> outcomes are
[20:34] <alphis> after installation
[20:34] <alphis> it will ask u to reboot
[20:34] <alphis> once u reboot it will just not boot
[20:34] <alphis> or
[20:34] <holstein> alphis: what happens when either my install A. works, or B. doenst work ?
[20:34] <alphis> ask for password
[20:34] <alphis> then not boot
[20:34] <alphis> or
[20:34] <alphis> boot into grub or boot into initramfs
[20:34] <holstein> alphis: im trying to decide if im going to take 20+ miutes and do this...
[20:34] <alphis> i think its worth it. most ppl install via USB these days
[20:34] <holstein> alphis: will you start a bug report? and link me?
[20:34] <alphis> if ud like me to sure
[20:35] <holstein> theres no need for us to waste time here we dont document
[20:35] <alphis> here's the only interactive medium
[20:35] <alphis> but i can file a bug report too
[20:35] <holstein> 15:35 < alphis> here's the only interactive medium
[20:36] <holstein> ^^ i have no idea what that means
[20:36] <holstein> you mean, IRC is the interactive medium? i get that.. but im only interested in getting this fixed, and starting a proper bug is how that happens
[20:36] <alphis> agreed
[20:36] <holstein> you wont join a channel and get this fixed
[20:37] <alphis> clearly
[20:37] <alphis> thinking about it again
[20:37] <alphis> i dont think USB is the issue
[20:37] <holstein> alphis: its just not thw way it works.. there are no dev's here for that purpose.. this is a community support channel
[20:37] <alphis> i will try to reproduce with CD as well
[20:37] <alphis> i used same USB to isntall NON full disk encryption
[20:37] <alphis> works fine
[20:37] <alphis> its just alternate with full disk crypto that fals
[20:42] <alphis> u might be interested in: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180218/why-does-integrity-check-fail-for-the-12-04-1-alternate-iso
[20:42] <alphis> its not about my current isssue but its about my FIRST issue that this guy couldn't solve and resulted in just installing DESKTOP (aka not full encryption)
[20:43] <holstein> alphis: thats the 64bit iso
[20:44] <holstein> thats all pre-installation anyway
[20:45] <alphis> well the issue exists for 32bit as well
[20:45] <alphis> its universal
[20:45] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1041911 if you feel that bug effects you
[20:45] <alphis> and yes its the first issue...pre installation but its a KNOWN issue
[20:46] <holstein> alphis: they are different isos, and the integrity check is not the issue, correct?
[20:46] <alphis> integrity check is not MY current issue no.
[20:46] <alphis> BOTH isos suffer that issue
[20:46] <holstein> i dont think anyonw will argue there are current issues
[20:47] <alphis> yeah i agree. its a shitstorm with canonical sening people's searches to ads.
[20:47] <alphis> i think thats a feature of the unity env tho right
[20:47] <holstein> folks are saying dd creates an error free image
[20:47] <alphis> hopefully xfce doesn't do that
[20:47] <holstein> alphis: watch the language please
[20:47] <alphis> holstein: correct
[20:48] <alphis> holstein: thats exactly how i fixed my integrity issues
[20:48] <alphis> wait..what language
[20:48] <holstein> alphis: cononical pays the bills here.. making it possible for xfce and other packages to be hosted
[20:48] <holstein> might be helpful to remember that canonical is a company... we are a community
[20:49] <alphis> hence why im here and not hanging with the company
[20:49] <Pici> And you can remove the amazon lens if you want.
[20:49] <alphis> although..if they had an irc chat...
[20:49] <alphis> i understand ur position to defend them so i wont argue the point. i just want xubuntu to WORK
[20:50] <alphis> as i hate unity and other bloated UIs
[20:50] <holstein> you want xubuntu to work with full disk encryption on your hardware
[20:50] <alphis> no
[20:50] <alphis> i want xubuntu to work with full disk encryption on x86
[20:50] <alphis> and i doubt it works on 64bit either
[20:50] <alphis> but i dont have a free 64bit machine so i can't verify
[20:51] <alphis> Pici: that lens isn't part of whatever xubuntu's version of xfce4 is ?
[20:51] <holstein> well, we are currently verifying the 32bit issue
[20:52] <Pici> alphis: correct, its installed with Ubuntu Desktop only.
[20:52] <alphis> thank god
[20:52] <alphis> im glad i chose xubuntu. i like xfce anyway
[20:52] <alphis> its not as good as my customized gentoo box
[20:52] <alphis> running evilwm
[20:52] <alphis> and no gdm crap
[20:52] <alphis> but its ok
[20:56] <holstein> alphis: link that bug# for me as soon as you get it up.. if you leave i can still log my process there
[21:00] <alphis> ill open a bu report soon as i can get to the machine as im sure itll ask for very specific things ill need to paste
[21:00] <alphis> also..i just apt-get installed cryptsetup and its creating an initramfs...wtf
[21:00] <alphis> i didn't ask for that i just want the program lol
[21:00] <alphis> i hopethis doesn't bork my install
[21:01] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity is what i would follow in the mean time
[21:01] <holstein> alphis: ping me when you make that bug and i'll continue working in this VM
[21:04] <alphis> k
[21:15] <zgnuu> Xubuntu 12.04's window manager is wfwm4 right?
[21:16] <holstein> xfwm4
[21:27] <uaoo> audio has not worked for movies ever since i tried to install smplayer. Any idea what it could be?
[21:29] <holstein> check the software mute button ..check alsamixer in the terminal and dont trust any labels. otherwise
[21:29] <holstein> !sound
[21:38] <zgnuu> why can i not use a direct link to download something in xubuntu?
[21:38] <zgnuu> what do I need to have to do this?
[21:38] <zgnuu> nvm
[21:44] <uaoo> holstein: i found the problem. parole switched to my system audio instead using my audio card.
[21:45] <uaoo> must have switched when trying other software
[21:50] <uaoo> how can i make my sound card the default source for playback?
[21:50] <holstein> uaoo: try pavucontrol
[21:50] <uaoo> thanks
[21:53] <uaoo> What I'm really looking for is a way to use my keyboard volume keys to control my soundcard
[21:53] <uaoo> pavucontrol doesnt seem to have that functionality
[21:54] <holstein> uaoo: i am in openbox.. i set keyboard shortcuts to control the volume
[21:54] <holstein> uaoo: pavucontrol would be just for helping select sources and set the default device
[21:58] <zgnuu> how do I install fonts in xubuntu? I tried going into nautilus and copy and pasting the font into /usr/share/fonts but that didn't work
[21:58] <zgnuu> I couldn't paste the font folder
[22:00] <uaoo> you can try creating a ".fonts" folder in your home directory. it will only be available to you, though.
[22:01] <holstein> zgnuu: if it didnt work for permissions reason, you can sudo mv then from the terminal
[22:17] <Catbuntu> hello
[22:23] <xubuntu400> Hi, I'm new to the xubuntu OS i just need to clarify something even if it seems like a stupid question
[22:24] <xubuntu400> I want to know if it only requires 64mb ram to run?
[22:25] <xubuntu400> Hi, I'm new to the xubuntu OS i just need to clarify something even if it seems like a stupid question [22:24] <xubuntu400> I want to know if it only requires 64mb ram to run?
[22:26] <holstein> xubuntu400: you can try it live on whatever system you want.. i wouldnt expect much out of 64mb's of ram..i would use puppy linux
[22:28] <knome> i'm not sure xubuntu would even install with 64MB
[22:28] <xubuntu400> is puppy linux easy to install and does it come with features similar to MS office excell etc that is compatible with MS on say an MS os
[22:29] <holstein> xubuntu400: there is an ubuntu variation of puppy.. ms office will not run on 64mb of ram AFAIK
[22:30] <xubuntu400> cheers and thanks for the info
[22:30] <holstein> xubuntu400: you can try puppy linux live and see how the software works for you.. if you are just intersted in text editors, there are plenty of resources for them.. even online ones such as google docs
[22:30] <holstein> or...
[22:35] <z2389> how come when I download jupiter, I don't see the lightning bolt symbol for it?
[22:35] <holstein> z2389: maybe its not running? lemme look at how i set it up real quick
[22:36] <z2389> the only time I see it is when I run it in terminal and it leaves after I exit terminal
[22:37] <holstein> z2389: try jupiter &
[22:37] <z2389> same thing
[22:37] <z2389> when I exit the terminal
[22:37] <z2389> jupiter exits
[22:37] <z2389> or at least the lightning bolt doesn't appear in the top right
[22:38] <holstein> z2389: i have the bolt...
[22:39] <holstein> i do have an EEE
[22:43] <holstein> z2389: sorry.. i dont rememer doing more than what you have done... any error output?