[00:18] * rbelem goes home [00:53] wee === vorian is now known as v === v is now known as vorian [02:18] vorian: long time no weee :P [02:24] shadeslayer: mind a PM? [02:25] sure [02:40] great [02:40] we have a kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch in kate [02:40] but it's not in the series file [02:40] huzzah [02:53] huzzah [02:53] I made kate build [03:01] is there any way we could get kdev-python packaged? [03:02] urlwolf: its on the Blueprint but I guess we just don't have the manpower to handle new packages at the moment [03:02] thanks [03:02] urlwolf: see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-kubuntu-packaging [03:04] but I don't see it en the blueprint [03:04] hm [03:04] I'm sure I put it there [03:06] urlwolf: fixed [03:07] now encompasses all plugins [03:24] shadeslayer: Is this fixing the PA stuff for quantal? [03:24] huh? [03:24] I'd put it in experimental and then updates once you've got itworking. [03:24] PA? [03:25] Plasma Active [03:25] [11:01:03] ScottK: should I put ktp in kubuntu-updates or backports? [03:25] uh ... I said KDE Telepathy [03:25] not PA [03:25] OK. [03:25] I was having trouble following. [03:25] If this is 0.5.2, I think updates is fine. [03:26] as for PA I'll be putting it in ~kubuntu-active then test on a exo PC and then upload to archives [03:26] cool [03:26] Excellent. [03:30] shadeslayer: FYI, I think the new python plugin for kdevelop is not suitable for the archive. It embeds a modified copy of the python interpreter. [03:31] urlwolf: ^ [03:32] and apol_ as well ^ [03:33] ScottK: what does it have to do with the packaging? it's an issue we're aware of and that will be solved eventually [03:33] but it doesn't affect the rest of the system [03:38] whaaa [03:38] ../../../../../kate/plugins/pate/src/utilities.cpp:374:71: error: invalid conversion from 'Py_UNICODE* {aka long unsigned int*}' to 'const uint* {aka const unsigned int*}' [-fpermissive] [03:39] oddly enough it built fine in the pbuilder [03:44] amd64 builds though [03:58] apol_: We have a strong policy against code copies. They aren't completely prohibited, but particularly for packages with a history of needing security updates, it's not generally wanted. [03:59] To the extent there are code copies in the archive (and there are), they are considered bugs. [04:28] ScottK: Could you have a look at the remaining FTBFS's ? [04:29] sigh, fixed i386 FTBFS , kate amd64 fails now [04:29] what magic is this [04:29] I've gtg for a bit, bbl [04:29] In the archive? [04:29] Or ninjas? [04:29] ninjas [05:03] shadeslayer: kate was archive skew. Building now. [05:04] kdepim hasn't been updated. [05:06] kross-interpreters looks like a multiarch'ed python2.7 issue. Retrying to see if the recent fixed on python2.7/cmake solved it. [05:07] Wallpapers needs actual fixing. [06:03] kate built. [06:22] ScottK: thx [06:22] I'll have a look at kross-interpreters [07:02] I'm not sure how opensuse released the RC when smokekde is utterly busted [07:20] who want's to fix this : http://paste.kde.org/629168/ [08:26] so who broke kde-telepathy on quantal in kubuntu-ppa/updates? http://paste.kde.org/629180/ [08:39] uhhh [08:39] tsimpson: looking [08:40] seems to be libtelepathy-logger-qt4-1, the only candidate is 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 from quantal/universe but libktpchat0 requires >= 0.5.2 [08:41] ahhh [08:41] I forgot to copy that [08:42] I meant to untick tp-qt, but unticked tp-logger-qt as well [08:43] tsimpson: copied, waiting for publication === yofel_ is now known as yofel [08:47] right, I'll let you know if it all goes well [08:49] tsimpson: thanks for pointing that out [08:50] it's a rarity that I get held back packages, so it caught my attention [08:55] yeah, I apologize for that [08:58] tsimpson: should be good to go [08:59] shadeslayer: yeah, all good now :) [09:03] great, the cron job I hacked together for the status page actually works [09:03] wasn't sure as I didn't really test it yesterday ^^ [11:48] hmm, plenty more 4.9.95 to go === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [12:29] http://ruedigergad.com/2012/12/21/plasma-active-for-nexus-7-running-the-touch-optimized-plasma-active-linux-distribution-on-nexus-7/ [12:29] we were too late :/ [12:32] well various people have had it working on nexus 7, better is images which are built from the archive rather than a one off so we can make a full release [12:40] but yeah, should be a target for toot sweet [12:48] yofel: I don't think you used the latest libkdegames from the archive. That FTBFS (or at least one very like it) has been fixed once already. [12:49] I didn't check whether the branch was outdated - let me verify [12:49] urgh, 3 revs missing [12:50] * yofel goes fixing [12:50] I thought we had a sanity check for that... [12:52] seems like we do - kind of, but needs fixing === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [13:15] maco: please check out my ravelry project I made recently, you will immediately see which one I talk about :) [13:39] Riddell: do you by chance have any uncomitted changes for kdelibs lying around? launchpad refuses to show me the diff between ppa2 and ppa3 and I didn't drop anything from bazaar [13:39] let's see === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [13:43] yofel: I only have ppa2 here [13:44] well, I uploaded ppa3, which failed to build and I don't get why it would if ppa2 built [13:44] but I don't know if ppa2 and bzr were in sync because I didn't check [13:44] yofel: debdiff http://paste.kde.org/629312/ [13:45] Riddell: I feared as much, can you put those file updates into bzr and upload ppa4 please? [13:46] note that our automation scripts really can't handle the ppa and bzr being out of sync, so I usually just work from bzr and assume the ppa is the same [13:47] yofel: yep will fix, I wonder what I did there that didn't sync it [13:49] can packages from Debian-6.0 be missed in ubuntu-12.04? [13:49] Quite possibly, although the reasons are somewhat complex. [13:50] OBS tells me that xcalib it not available [13:50] which in turn is needed for the Oyranos CMS [13:50] it is in 12.04 though [13:50] !info xcalib precise [13:50] xcalib (source: xcalib): Tiny monitor calibration loader for Xorg. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.dfsg1-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 19 kB, installed size 84 kB [13:51] good to know :-) [13:51] thanks [13:51] oy: Try packages.ubuntu.com next time instead of some opensuse thing to find out about Ubuntu packages. [13:52] ScottK, well I use OBS for building and testing upstream stuff [13:53] Right, but opensuse is probably not the ideal source for information about Ubuntu. [13:53] can imagine, still try to get it working there and then packagaing will be hopefully easier for other distros [13:54] e.g. Fedora, Debian etc. === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:12] is there a policy for kubuntu, that universe packages can be used for kde-graphics apps? [14:13] I think kdegraphics is pretty much all in universe, so that should't be a problem [14:13] huh; fine [14:14] oy: the policy is: packages in main can't depend on packages from universe, so as long as it's not in main there's no problem [14:15] makes sense === phoenix_firebrd is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [14:17] are there distribution limitations if something is in universe? the Oyranos/xcalib packages are a requirement wor the KolorManager kcm [14:21] oy: only requirement to be free software [14:21] oy: Souyz (the build part of LP) enforces something called "ogre-model" which prevents stuff not in universe from build-depending on stuff in universe. Other than that, there's no difference. [14:22] free software should be easy to fullfill [14:38] golly, simon is out for packaging too [14:38] lots to do [14:40] Mamarok: cute! [14:40] Mamarok: i have not done colorwork yet [14:42] maco: it's quite easy, I varied it a bit from Fair Isle style knitting by tunneling the loose color, makes the pattern a bit stiff, but that doesn't hurt for this particular one [15:34] ScottK: new files in the pykde4 build, any idea what they are? usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/PyKDE4/kdecore.cpython-33m.so [15:34] one for each library [15:34] presumably we want them [15:49] Riddell: those should be the binaries for python 3.3 so we want them [15:55] Riddell: you want them in the python3-kde4 package =) [15:55] with X-Python3-Version headers, dh_python3, et al ;-) [16:05] Riddell: Yes. [16:30] shadeslayer: have you looked at smokekde did you say? === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [17:00] Riddell: I can look at it. [17:00] ScottK: I fixed both [17:01] just smoke qt left and then we'll be done in ninjas [17:01] Oh. [17:01] Ought to go ahead and upload kde4libs to the archive, if you haven't. [17:02] yep [17:02] You want to do it or should I? [17:02] ScottK: go ahead [17:02] Will do. [17:08] Done. [17:18] rdieter: Thanks for committing the kamoso update. [17:19] ScottK: trying to fix building against older libkipi now. :( [17:54] Riddell: ScottK I'll sync the packages I uploaded and bzr [17:55] on a related note, could someone have a look at kdm.upstart in kde-workspace in bzr? [17:55] I don't think that change was sync'd to bzr [17:58] hi! try "apt-get remove python-dbus-dev" [17:58] erm [17:58] why? [17:58] because the result is surprising [17:59] i'm wondering why binary packages would depend on python-dbus-dev wich just contains one header file [17:59] Reverse Depends: [17:59] python-dbus [17:59] which looks fine [17:59] things probably dep on python-dbus which deps on python-dbus-dev [18:00] on another 12.04 installation, this action would have removed big portions of kde. [18:01] hmm even that sounds wierd. python-dbus which deps on python-dbus-dev [18:02] anyways, if this makes sense to you, i'll stick with it. [18:02] http://paste.kde.org/629378/ [18:03] same for me on 12.10 [18:05] freinhard: it comes from debian it seems https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-python/1.0.0-1 === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw [19:02] is there example code for interfacing muon/qapt from c++? or would one launch a qapt-batch process? [19:03] JontheEchidna: ^^ [19:04] freinhard: I guess it depends on what you wanted to do [19:04] JontheEchidna: install new packages [19:04] I'd recommend invoking qapt-batch if you just want to do a simple install [19:05] do i get information if this job was successful? [19:06] freinhard: qapt-batch will provide error dialogs, and exit with an error code when errors happen [19:07] (nonzero exit code) [19:08] i wrote some code for kde-telepathy which offers to install some packages if one would want to setup a ICQ or MSN account but the required connection manager is not there yet. unfortunately kubuntu doesn't ship packagekit by default [19:18] JontheEchidna: is there a way to have the user confirm the installation before entering the password? [19:19] JontheEchidna: didn't you say there was a PK dbus interface that muon offers [19:19] a dbus interface, yes [19:19] aka one code to rule them all ;) [19:19] it's PK-alike, but not packagekit [19:20] freinhard: not currently, no [19:22] Me would rather have PolicyKit KCM [19:22] derp [19:23] I even fail at /me [19:23] JontheEchidna: o/ [19:23] \o [19:24] * Quintasan left for uni in the morning and is returning [19:24] damn last Friday before Christmas [19:25] I got out last Friday, exams were killer [19:25] no exams [19:25] and then I came down with the flu Sunday and was sick until Wed. [19:25] but when stuff explodes in you face it explodes big time [19:26] (that's what gender-unspecified person said) [19:26] ;p [19:26] well, better the flu this week than the flu on finals week [19:26] :D [19:26] true that [19:26] I noticed the damn sever in my uni runs Solaris [19:26] the spring term starts on Jan. 22 [19:27] with gcc 3.sth [19:27] lol [19:27] JontheEchidna: good luck on the exams then [19:27] exams were last week <.< [19:27] * Quintasan prepares some books to start learning for his [19:27] oh [19:27] lol [19:28] good luck for yours, though [19:28] Mine start in the middle of January [19:28] Hopefully will have to write 2 out of 4 but whatever [19:29] my fridge is still empty [19:29] ScottK: recon I'm ok to upload the rest to -proposed as well? [19:29] JontheEchidna: How is student's life? Enjoying much of it or not? :P [19:30] I like it [19:30] I'm at my parents' house for the holidays now [19:31] and it's nice to be back, but I do like living not with them ;) [19:31] I'm going back tomorrow [19:31] I like it very much [19:31] but there is one obvious drawback [19:31] The fridge is permanently empty [19:32] its either full of beer and food OR empty [19:32] no states in between [19:32] T_T [19:32] you eat all your parent's food? [19:32] Riddell: I eat all of my food at my flat in Wroclaw [19:32] I can't possibly eat 5 people's worth of food [19:33] I can't even possibly have that much [19:33] oh a drawback to living away from your parents is the empty fridge [19:33] yeah [19:34] yes I do still have a key to my parent's home incase my fridge is ever empty :) [19:34] I somehow can't imagine you going back home just for food :P [19:35] well incase my car isn't in my driveway too [19:35] brb [19:36] which is quite a lot since I don't have a car or a driveway [19:41] ;) [19:41] :D === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [19:45] http://jriddell.org/diary/?p=106 [19:45] my god [19:45] Riddell: This made my day :D [19:46] yeah it's more fun than the phone bills or junior football league scores I get to that e-mail address :) [19:47] >phone bills [19:47] Why not pay them? :P [19:48] wth [19:48] yofel: okular is marked as ftbfs yet log says otherwise [19:50] Quintasan: it's the missing file [19:50] oh [19:50] except I do install that file in okular.manpages and added a not-installed file with it [19:50] so I'm a bit confused but not overly worried [19:51] * Riddell out leaving the packages to upload [20:55] Riddell: how did you batch upload the beta for quantal last time? [21:19] yofel: I don't think it will work this time. [21:20] ScottK: why not? [21:20] Last time we blocked kde4libs transition and that was enough. [21:20] ScottK: I'm talking about the backports [21:20] Since there shouldn't be any new symbols in the RC, the older kde4libs should be sufficient so other stuff won't get blocked. [21:20] Oh. [21:20] Sorry, wrong topic. [21:20] Nevermind then. [21:27] * yofel just made his own script anyway [21:28] ... [21:28] I just found out there is MPRIS runner [21:29] * Quintasan has even less reasons to use dolphin [21:45] * ScottK just fixed nepomuk on his laptop. It's been dead for weeks and I couldn't figure out why. It turns out reading the last bit of /.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-virtuoso.log told me how to fix it. [21:46] Surely that's not something we actually expect users to do? [21:48] usually not, but 4.10 requires users to press the power button to reboot after install too, so that still sounds reasonable. [21:57] It's empty here [21:57] Does it mean it works? [21:58] any hardcore vim user here can tell me if somehow can get autocompletion like that in kdevelop? [21:58] yes you can - but no, I don't know how to set that up [22:02] T_T [22:02] yofel: there is OmniCpp or clang_complete [22:02] the former uses ctags and the latter uses the compiler itself [22:03] lol [22:03] nope [22:03] * yofel notes that KDE sure has a lot of packages now while he watches them being processed... [22:04] brr [22:04] omnicpp is too hard to set up [22:06] heh [22:07] yofel: I noticed that as well with the last upload :P [22:07] http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.9.95_quantal.html enjoy the blueness ^^ [22:10] mother of god [22:10] well [22:10] will test asap [22:12] mfw [22:12] this damned tab doesnt autocomplete in vim [22:12] wtf [22:13] haha [22:14] wasn't vim completion something with ctrl+p or so? [22:15] yeah, ctrl-p/n [22:15] good, finally done with uploading [22:20] yofel: brace yourself, emails are coming [22:20] for? [22:20] depwaits don't send mails [22:20] ... [22:20] not dep waits [22:20] email about uploads [22:20] oh, yeah, I've already got a ton :P [22:20] and unless you're a MOTU, emails about failed uploads I'd guess [22:21] I didn't upload to the archive [22:21] oh [22:21] you uploaded quantal? [22:21] I thought you did both quantal and raring [22:21] yep [22:21] aaaaaaargh [22:22] we need a sanity package check [22:22] gwenview and konquest didn't get updated [22:22] 0.o [22:22] I'll upload them [22:22] WHY [22:22] DID [22:22] TAB STOP AUTOCOMPLETING [22:22] afaik vim uses Ctrl_N [22:22] (at least those just looking at what's still at 4.9.90 in quantal) [22:23] ctrl+n [22:23] ^ [22:23] I call BS [22:23] http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3302 [22:23] I've never tab completed with ctrl+n in vim [22:24] nice [22:24] * yofel does for very long and odd variables to prevent typos [22:24] rest of the time the ctrl key just feels alien in vim [22:24] I've been trying to get clang to parse code, but just didn't work [22:24] it works [22:24] I was probably doing it wrong [22:24] Quintasan: show [22:24] but the completion itself is not as good as I'd like it to be [22:24] Is someone uploading thre rest of KDE? [22:25] 4.9.95 [22:25] ScottK: yofel is doing that magic [22:25] Excellent. [22:25] no [22:25] imho raring should be uploaded with higher powers [22:25] like MOTU [22:25] yofel: You're not? [22:25] or rather - uploading what? [22:25] so that games don't get reject [22:25] *rejected [22:25] yofel: 4.9.95 [22:25] ScottK: uploading what to where? [22:25] lol [22:25] 4.9.95 to raring archive. [22:26] * ScottK did kde4libs and it's built everywhere. [22:26] no, I'm uploading missing packages to ppa first [22:26] oh [22:26] If you've got the packages locally, you might go ahead and upload pimlibs to the archive. [22:26] but I guess I could just upload them to the archive [22:26] I don't [22:26] yofel: Even better. [22:27] I think the need for ninjas is past. [22:27] well, not until our scripts really work [22:27] either they're really buggy or Riddell is doing something wrong [22:27] gwenview is marked as 4.9.95 in bzr, but I can't find that version published anywhere [22:28] OK [22:31] hi [22:31] gwenview wasn't uploaded to the PPA for some reason [22:31] hey :) [22:32] so what did I miss while I was out? [22:32] kdepim and libkdegames at least had failing patches, but I can't find an obvious reason why gwenview would fail [22:32] unless the branch was broken [22:33] hmm so my upload didn't work [22:33] what's the current status of 4.9.95 in raring? [22:34] * yofel just uploaded gwenview to archive [22:34] can you do konquest? I don't have upload permissions for that [22:34] I think then we'll have all packages [22:35] are all the packages in raring? [22:36] no they're not [22:36] what the hell [22:36] https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/facebook-poke/id588594730?mt=8 [22:36] Riddell: only kdelibs is in the archive I think [22:36] now I've seen everything [22:36] but as we're uploading I don't see the reason for putting the missing stuff in the ppa, it can just stay in depwait [22:36] ok I'll upload to raring archive [22:36] Riddell: I think it's best you upload KDE [22:37] *if you [22:37] we don't have permissions for all of kde games and what not [22:37] uploading [22:39] shadeslayer: You should become a MOTU then. [22:39] yofel too [22:40] I wouldn't mind to apply, but I simply don't do enough "plain universe work" [22:40] ^ [22:40] on that note, I got emailed to update kraft, should probably do that as well [22:45] ok, I think I've got the backports all uploaded [23:00] shadeslayer: Can you handle PA3 alone? I'd like to investigate the state of ibus integration [23:00] yep [23:00] or in other words: "why it sucks and how to improve this" [23:00] sure [23:01] I was actually just thinking of updating the PPA [23:01] since the RC is done === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.9.95_quantal.html | oxygen-fonts in experimental PPA (from oneiric to raring) [23:10] * ScottK fixes smoke-qt. [23:25] Riddell: kajongg and kshisen never got fixed and uploaded for 4.9.90, so the 4.9.95 uploads hit New with bad copyright files (no GFDL and missing copyright holders). I've rejected them. Would you pleases have a look. [23:32] ScottK: ok [23:33] Thanks. [23:35] OLOLOLOLOLOLOL [23:36] ScottK: I just noticed that [23:36] ScottK: Try splitting the screen in Konsole [23:37] Quintasan: Works fine here. [23:37] nice bug ^^ [23:37] What bug? [23:37] ScottK: Try typing in one of the screens [23:37] splitting yes, closing *one* window not [23:37] yofel: try typing [23:37] oh lol [23:38] use yakuake, it works there :P [23:38] Can someone tell me why would I split the damn konsole window to see the same thing? [23:38] Horizontal or vertical? [23:38] Works fine here with a horizontal split. [23:38] * yofel updates to 4.9.95 [23:38] heh [23:39] Oh, right, not on 4.9.95, so nevermind [23:39] ScottK: The default behavior is that when you split the screen in Konsole [23:39] you get a mirror [23:39] It shows you the same terminal on both parts [23:39] yeah [23:39] What's the point? [23:40] could someone upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/kraft_0.50-0ubuntu1.dsc [23:40] is it *supposed* to do that? because yakuake doesn't [23:40]