[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, its past the hour mark, is there a time drift from internet-sync'd time on the server ubottu/logbots are on?
[00:02] <AlanBell> it takes a few minutes to write out all the channels
[00:02] <AlanBell> looks like that one is at 4 minutes past the hour
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> it hasn't updated yet :P
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> ... figures though, given the # of channels... :P
[00:04] <AlanBell> there we go
[00:10] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, apparently the bots don't track joins/parts/bans on the logs?
[00:11] <TheLordOfTime> or is that by-design
[00:11] <AlanBell> by design, the logs are there for humans to refer to
[00:11] <AlanBell> they are also handy for ops :)
[00:13] <TheLordOfTime> i assume you're talking with the guy in question, he just reversed a couple of bans
[00:13] <hggdh> it is interesting to note that the logs show people asking the op to behave
[00:13] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[00:13]  * TheLordOfTime sees that despite the crap translations of Google.
[00:13] <hggdh> heh
[00:14] <hggdh> at least this is a language I master, sort of
[00:14] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, oh good, you can translate everything on the log page into english for us :P
[00:16] <hggdh> it is actually sad to see what is going on there
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> he just kickbanned himself.
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, that channel's worse than... well...
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> um... certain other  channels i've witnessed.
[00:17]  * TheLordOfTime cannot elaborate at this time
[00:18] <AlanBell> huh? Rudolf kickbanned himself?
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Rudolf
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * Rudolf sets ban on *!*rodolfo@unaffiliated/rudolf
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * Rudolf has kicked Rudolf from #ubuntu-br (Rudolf)
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, and this is why the logs should track bans/kicks :P
[00:20] <AlanBell> we have tools for the channels we manage directly, team and loco channels are largely self managing
[00:20] <AlanBell> anyhow, that is a bit of a separate issue
[00:20] <AlanBell> I have asked ursinha to pop in for a chat about the channel
[00:22] <hggdh> that would be nice, she was one of the ops there for a while
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> still's on the acl
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:22] <AlanBell> she is one of the people with founder flags in the list
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> err... don't you mean flag-setting powers?  founder's +F, Ursinha doesn't have that according to chanserv
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> but they have +f
[00:23] <AlanBell> quite right, little f
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> (or is my irc client not parsing data)
[00:23] <AlanBell> but hey flags are just bits in a machine :)
[00:24] <Fuchs> bleep boop boop
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> boop beep beep bleep boop beep? ;P
[00:25] <AlanBell> anyhow, I think as Rudolf has now removed himself I am going to lift the ban now which I should be able to do with the ubuntu/member cloak
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, it was removed
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> by IdleOne
[00:26] <AlanBell> oh, great :)
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> and rudolf also undid hggdh's ban
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> and the other person he banned.
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> idleone's done further cleanup it seems
[00:26] <AlanBell> IdleOne ftw
[00:26] <IdleOne> I think all the bans on ops are removed
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne the Magnificent.
[00:26] <IdleOne> But wth happened in there?
[00:27] <AlanBell> I was a bit reluctant to go in and start sorting things out without dealing with the conflict situation itself
[00:27] <AlanBell> and as I lack the language I didn't want to go making things worse :)
[00:27] <hggdh> my ban still seems to be active
[00:28] <hggdh> (I assume, since I still cannot join the channel)
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> really?
[00:28]  * TheLordOfTime looks
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, nope, you're not banned...
[00:28] <hggdh> a /join gets 'cannot send to channel'
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> did you try actually joining?
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, erm, what?
[00:28] <IdleOne> try again
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> it wouldn't say that unless there were a ' ' before that, a /join never gets sent to channel :P
[00:29] <hggdh> now it took it
[00:29]  * hggdh goes blame weechat for a while
[00:32] <hggdh> ah, I know what happened when I tried to join -- I was using the old buffer for the channel, cannot do that
[00:36] <AlanBell> Fuchs: could you remove Rudolf from the #ubuntu-br access list please
[00:36] <Fuchs> no?
[00:36] <Fuchs> err
[00:36] <Fuchs> silly me
[00:36] <Fuchs> AlanBell: excuse me, I misparsed that, yes, I can
[00:36] <AlanBell> :0
[00:36] <AlanBell> :)
[00:37] <Fuchs> AlanBell: there we go :)
[00:37]  * Fuchs goes to corner and feels ashamed
[00:38] <hggdh> AlanBell, at al.: thank you for your help
[00:38] <AlanBell> thanks
[00:39] <Fuchs> AlanBell: silly question probably, aren't you guys usually on the ACL with that Council account?
[00:39] <AlanBell> normally, yes
[00:40] <Fuchs> I don't mind doing it for you, as you know the GCs can request that for everything in their namespace. Just don't know if you prefer managing things on your own
[00:40] <AlanBell> we will probably get that sorted out too, but I don't want to complicate the issue
[00:41] <Fuchs> Sure
[00:41] <Fuchs> It's not an urgent issue I guess, people who have access to that account are probably the same that can poke us about it anyway
[00:42] <AlanBell> they are, yes :)
[00:42] <Fuchs> Okay :)  Again, sorry for initial confusion and have a nice day :)
[00:42] <Fuchs> well, night, I guess
[00:42] <AlanBell> indeed, it is approaching 1am