=== tumbleweed_ is now known as tumbleweed [04:59] morning all and every [05:14] Hi [05:23] hard work onna fone hey? [05:59] good evening Kilos [06:00] evening superfly [06:00] hi jrgns [06:00] ah, time to phone the courier [06:00] what you sending where? [06:01] I'm getting my Christmas present from Vodacom [06:01] lekker do they give you presents or do you buy them? [06:01] hehe [06:02] all they ever gave me was bad service [06:03] Maaz, seen Wraz [06:03] Kilos: Wraz was last seen 9 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2012-12-11 14:27:27 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2012-12-20 20:27:46 PST [06:05] Good morning everyone [06:06] hi barrydk hows the eyes [06:06] hehe [06:06] I think it will be ok after 12 today thank Kilos [06:06] lol [06:07] Hows things on your side [06:07] ok ty [06:07] everything is working fine [06:08] and lotsa rain last night so all smells good [06:08] Thats good. and thats great nothing beats the smell of rain, ploughing the soil and fresh coffee [06:09] Kilos: they're delivering my Samsung Galaxy S3 [06:09] oh ya a lekker curry cooking even hits the tummy [06:09] ah lekker superfly one more toy to play with [06:10] morning barrydk, how's your eyesight today? [06:10] hahaha [06:10] seen them advertised on the idiot box. look quite cool [06:10] Hi Superfly. Just told kilos it should be much better after 12. But you are a bad guy advertising that phone [06:11] who said I'm advertising that phone? [06:12] Ok braging that you re getting one, I also want one. [06:12] I'm not even bragging... [06:12] it was the right price at the right time [06:13] I upgraded my contract in Feb this year and i think less than a month later the s3 came out. [06:16] morning Kilos [06:16] Morning everyone [06:16] mnorning mazal [06:16] hi mazal [06:16] morning mazal [06:17] How is everyone ? [06:17] ugh, so I tab complete right this morning, but misspell "morning" - am I ever gonna get it right? [06:17] Morning Mazal, jrgns [06:17] morning barrydk [06:17] barrydk: sadly, I am moving to a lesser phone... the N900 is still BY FAR the best phone [06:17] lol [06:18] superfly, that's Nokia ne ? [06:18] yup [06:18] I thought the s3 is one of the best. I am very happy with my s2 except its gps tracking are rubbish. Its great to here you think nokia is better i was always a nokia fan [06:19] nokia has gone down the tubes [06:19] forget nokia [06:19] Does tha 900 have build in gps receiver? [06:20] barrydk: yes [06:21] why do you say nokia is the best and later to forget nokia. Youre confusing me now [06:21] barrydk: the N900 is the best, nokia has since gone down the tubes thanks to their ex-Microsoft CEO [06:22] They run Windows on their smartphones yes ? [06:22] ok [06:23] Mazal 11:00 at golf club? [06:24] Ok b [06:24] Is reg [06:26] Superfly do you still get the 900 or are they also outdated? [06:28] barrydk: I don't know... [06:28] you might still be able to get one, but there's no point... it doesn't have the ecosystem surrounding other systems like Android and iOS [06:29] barrydk: but since it is running a real linux system, you can cross-compile apps and run them on the phone :-) [06:30] I'll only upgrade in 2014 so ill see what is there an the market at that time. [06:59] superfly, you still here? [07:00] sortof [07:00] lol [07:00] did you read the mail from Bhavani to maia ? [07:01] who puts the links in [07:01] we got facebook and twitter goodies that can be linked there [07:05] was just a slip up on our part i think not adding the links [07:15] Kilos: did you ever see the Ubuntu-MX Application? That was seriously awesome [07:16] no didnt look superfly [07:16] maybe we can learn some from them for our trip in 2 years time [08:21] l8tr all [09:46] morning all [09:47] barrydk you can still get the n900, but only as a straight up buy no contract [10:01] hey magespawn [10:01] howdy Kilos [10:02] that avira rescue found a trojan thing inna drive that i had to part the first 5g and not use at all [10:02] couldnt format that 5g with anything [10:03] hectic [10:03] will try format now [10:04] they serious things them trojans hey [10:04] some can be [10:06] normally formatting kills all them bugs [10:10] somebody must of thought of that. how were you formatting it, linux or windows? [10:10] tried them all [10:11] ubuntu could partition that whole drive [10:11] gparted that is [10:11] but couldnt install to it [10:12] after parting the first 5g it took xp [10:12] so stupid though [10:12] why? [10:13] installed to drive D: and still sees drive C: [10:13] but cant do anything with it [10:13] hehe [10:18] wheeeeeeeeeee my rather expensive experiment is working :P [10:19] what ecperiment is that? [10:19] I went and got a panasonic HC-V700 HD video camera, and hooked it into my blackmagic intensity pro card, then used VLC with some hax, and managed to multicast the video camera output all over the house in full HD in real time [10:19] <3 [10:19] technically using this setup if I had the bandwidth here I could stream in full HD off that camera anywhere [10:19] good way to run security [10:20] hehe hi Symmetria [10:20] heh, finally though, a camera that can actually output what its seeing when its in record mode and not playback mode [10:20] lo kilos :) [10:20] heh, downloading a trial version of adobe premiere now, and if it does what I want I'll go buy that as well [10:20] :p [10:20] funny thing is i have a sony tape camera that does that [10:21] magespawn heh 99% of the digital HD video cams dont :( [10:21] it sucks [10:21] I looked at camera after camera before I found this one [10:21] probably why this damn thing cost me 6k [10:22] mine was free [10:22] i like free [10:22] lol I will sell this solution to a client and bill someone for it :p [10:22] and it will end up being profitable instead of free :p [10:22] lol [10:24] now if you can do profitable and free then you really score [10:24] holy crap haha I was capturing video in raw mode 1080p, 2.8 gigs for 30 seconds [10:26] thank god for SD harddrives :p [10:26] oops I mean solid state [10:28] good morning [10:28] or i guess in .za it is good afternoon :) [10:28] my holiday starts today so i can take it easy for the next week [10:30] Symmetria: going to need some serious storage for video like that [10:30] hey charl_ [10:30] hi magespawn [10:30] hi Symmetria, Kilos [10:30] nice one have a beer for us [10:30] magespawn heh, I convert it to h264 after, can do it in real time but its not easy [10:30] hi charl_ [10:31] lol magespawn had enough beers yesterday evening :) [10:31] heh, real time 1080p -> h264 video conversion *chews* cpu and even on my machine it struggles to keep up [10:31] (and if this machine Im using can't handle it with ease, nothing can, because I have some absolutely sick processing power in this thing) [10:31] it's strange, yesterday evening i was drinking weizen and on the back on the label it said it has a banana aroma [10:32] i didn't taste anything of the bananas though [10:32] but the beer wasn't too bad, even though i prefer hefeweizen [10:32] can you convert it from h264 to .avi or something more commonly playable? [10:32] charl_: you would have to smell it [10:33] magespawn: it wasn't a gaybar ! :) [10:33] charl_, have you tried amarula [10:33] Kilos: yes it's extremely nice i used to drink it in coffee [10:33] great flavour [10:34] yes very nice amarula++ [10:34] i think it works the best in coffee [10:34] makes an irish coffee :) [10:34] Symmetria: can you convert it from h264 to .avi or something more commonly playable? [10:38] amarula coffee [10:41] magespawn h264 = mkv [10:41] everything plays those [10:41] hell, even my tv can recognize and play mkv [10:41] h264 is the only sane way to do really high def video, because its the best video compression codec in existance [10:42] so if export it from a dvr security system they could play in wmp? [10:43] afaik matroska is the video container and h264 is the codec [10:43] so the h264 codec gets wrapped in a mkv container [10:46] this is interesting: http://lifehacker.com/5893250/whats-the-difference-between-all-these-video-formats-and-which-one-should-i-use [10:48] As for containers, both MKV and MP4 support high quality H.264 video, but in general we prefer MKV for almost everything, since it has a few more extra features, supports higher quality audio, and is open source. [10:48] The one downside of MKV is that it isn't as well supported by certain programs and devices. [10:48] i guess it depends on which program / device (well, firmware) you use [10:48] yeah, I havent seen a lot of modern stuff that doesnt support the mkv container [10:49] my series 8 samsung supports it just fine [10:49] can plug a harddrive into the tv and hit play on any mkv file, I know the xbox didnt support it at one point [10:49] dont know if the ps3 does [10:50] heh this video capture card of mine is pretty sweet, it handles the video real well and it wasnt that pricey (think it was like 4 grand) [10:50] only problem is that you need a motherboard that has spare pci-e 8x slots on it and a lot of the cheaper boards still only come with one pci-e slot for the video card [10:51] (though there is a usb-3 version of this thing as well) [10:51] there are a bunch of hdmi dongles now that run android [10:51] so if you have a "dumb [10:52] sorry hit enter by mistake [10:52] so if you have a bunch of "dumb televisions" that you want to upgrade to a "smart television" you can do that without replacing the tv [10:52] and a good video player on android should be able to handle any common file format [10:52] you can even run vlc on the android: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-android.html [10:52] yeah, proper smart tv's aren't cheap I will say [10:52] although it's still apparently in beta [10:53] I mean, now days they can do soooo much more than just be a tv [10:53] (you can ping my tv for example) [10:53] and skype off it, it runs skype for tv :p [10:53] heh, infact the number of IP enabled devices in my house now is getting kinda insane [10:53] i saw a tv the other day at the bcc which had a skype camera build in [10:54] yeah, same with mine [10:54] thats probably the same tv as mine, the samsung series 8 [10:54] but hell, now days you can even browse to my amplifier with a webbrowser and ask the amplifier to find and play a gazillion internet radio stations [10:54] people who have already upgraded to fibre (i'm not one of them) need to use IPTV in any case [10:55] (I run a yamaha rx-a810 amp) [10:55] oh yes could have been samsung, wasn't paying particular attention but it looked awesome (the picture quality) [10:55] and it has a massive screen [10:55] you don't really need fiber for iptv, so long as you've got 100mbit you're good [10:55] and you can get 100mbit without fiber [10:56] heh my internet connection at home now though is the only thing that ISN'T on fiber in my house [10:56] (where things like my amp and my tv didn't support it, I use a fiber converter) [10:56] i watch iptv all the time on my cable connection but i mean if you have cable you can get the tv channels off the shared spectrum on the cable [10:57] if you go fibre you only have the option of IPTV, there is no alternative [10:57] but i can watch at least two (probably three) 1080p streams simultaneously on my 60mbps cable [10:57] the biggest package the cable company has is 120mbps but i don't feel like paying the extra 15 euro per month [10:57] i can only watch one thing at a time and i live alone :) [10:58] but if i had a family maybe 120mbps would be nice [10:58] heh, honestly the bandwidth I have doesn't really bother me, I don't use that much and 10mbit works just fine for my needs [10:58] but its INSIDE my house where I need real bandwidth [10:58] when I start testing stuff and throwing around packets [10:59] heh, so a coupla things on 10gigabit in my house now [10:59] if you pre-download everything, 10mbps is fine because you can just let the downloads run during the night [10:59] but if you want to stream stuff 10mbps would be rather limiting [10:59] unless you do it in low-res [10:59] but at the end it all depends on your personal need of course [11:00] well, if you work it out, you can stream 720p over 10mbit just fine [11:00] 720p 45minute file = 1.2gig approx in h264 [11:01] and thats only using about 3mbit :p [11:01] wow, that's not bad [11:02] i guess it depends on the compression you use, the compression is so extremely good these days [11:03] i do have a really strange problem with youtube however, i have to let it buffer on a lot of videos when i try to play them at 1080p or even 720p [11:03] and my internet connection isn't nearly saturated at that point [11:03] sometimes i open 10 videos, let them all buffer, and then watch them afterwards [11:03] i have the suspicion that google is having trouble keeping up with the demand [11:03] or they are doing this on purpose somehow [11:04] because on other sites i can stream video without any problems [11:04] heh Ive seen google having capacity problems at certain exchanges [11:05] yeah i suspect it's a peering problem [11:05] especially during peak hours like in the evening [11:05] when people are at home watching video i mean [11:06] if i open a bunch of videos and then open a bandwidth monitoring tool i can get 30+ mbps down no problem [11:07] but if i open one i get a very low throughput [11:07] and then it keeps buffering every few seconds === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [11:14] ok i'm off bbl === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [13:25] * Symmetria snores at adobe [13:25] they need more bandwidth :p [14:24] hi magtie Jabberwocky smile [14:24] hi :D [14:24] home time inetpro before the storms come [14:24] Kilos: storms are coming? :p [14:24] feels like it [14:25] bad weather storms [14:25] donder en bliksem [14:25] :o [14:25] here the weather is fine :) [14:25] lol [14:25] bloue hemel :) [14:26] here too but looks like it might build up like it did last night [14:26] many hours no power [14:26] Hi Kilos & Everyone [14:27] woohoo! got my droid! [14:28] yay [14:29] are you also gonna come on here as a droid [14:29] superdroid [14:29] like magespawn [14:29] lo ludo [14:30] Oh wow, it's already ready to upgrade to Jellybean [14:30] nice one superfly [14:31] gtg for now [14:31] Enjoy the evening everyone [14:31] hello [14:32] woot [14:34] later all home time [15:00] byeee :) [15:00] cheers smile [15:00] see ya :) [16:03] hello and goodbye Kilos :) [16:03] cheers Jabberwocky_ [16:03] enjoy your weekend [17:33] The world is going to reboot! https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+end+of+time [17:37] lol [17:38] :) [17:41] dont worry you still gonna have time to get bigger and busier in life === smile is now known as smile4linux [17:47] Kilos: yeah, isn't that great :p [17:47] yeah [17:57] meh [17:57] lo [18:04] good evening [18:04] hi smile4linux, Kilos, Squirm [18:04] hi charl_ :) [18:05] & Squirm [18:05] I got my points for my exams today [18:05] 74% :D [18:05] hi charl_ [18:05] yay almost mignight [18:05] *midnight [18:05] well done smile4linux [18:05] the sun hit me today. I'm all crispy [18:05] tomorrow we can make fun of the people who thought the world was going to end today :) [18:05] lol hiya Squirm [18:06] smile4linux: well done! [18:06] and sore [18:06] :/ [18:06] i hear it has been very hot today in za [18:06] thanks :D [18:06] charl_: very [18:06] I was first of my class :) [18:06] went out to sea this morning [18:07] Squirm: how was it? :) [18:07] smile4linux: you better be, we wouldn't expect any less from you :P [18:07] so pretty much sat in the sun from 6am-1pm [18:07] catch any fish Squirm ? [18:07] smile4linux: good. went out sailing [18:07] charl_: haha! ;) [18:07] Kilos: never caught anything [18:07] eish [18:07] Squirm: cool :) no storm? [18:07] roasted for nothing [18:07] smile4linux: not a cloud [18:08] Kilos: well, we chilled in the sun. and sailed [18:08] so for coupla days we can call you pienkie [18:08] Squirm: wow! :) [18:08] you cant chill in the sun at sea you can heat up ya [18:08] my whole back is read + my chest and my arms [18:08] s/read/red [18:08] eina [18:08] meh [18:09] * Squirm goes and has cold shower [18:09] Squirm: wait [18:09] have you got a bath? [18:10] hi Cantide [18:10] * Cantide has just showered [18:10] hi :p [18:10] hi Cantide [18:10] Squirm: ping [18:10] sigh [18:10] hallo, charl_ '< [18:12] yo superfly [18:12] inetpro: lewe jy nog? [18:12] Kilos: ek's hier [18:13] mooi [18:13] hi Kilos [18:13] if im gone before Squirm gets back tell him to soak inna bath of luke warm water [18:14] and rub vicks on the sunburn [18:14] why would luke be in his bath? [18:14] * Cantide hides [18:14] isn't vinegar supposed to help with sunburn? [18:15] oh squirm must put a cup of vinegar in the bath [18:15] '-';; [18:15] Cantide: you are fresh now :p [18:15] smile4linux, I am!! second shower of the day -.- [18:15] lol i was rushing and forgot the vinegar [18:15] summer in Durban Cantide: oh :p too hot? [18:15] yeah [18:15] well, i went from winter to summer to winter and back to summer in about 3 months [18:16] best time of the year to be a surf life saver [18:16] so i think i haven't adjusted well ._. [18:16] many cute chicks around [18:16] Kilos: why would you br gone? [18:16] be* [18:16] Kilos, hahaha [18:16] i tired inetpro [18:16] i was at the beach on Monday, but only for a few minutes ._.v [18:16] i miss the beach [18:16] Kilos: ag nee man, jy't dan niks gedoen vandag nie [18:17] vra die skape en die bossies [18:17] ai, kan ek gou met hulle praat? [18:17] lol [18:17] ja ja [18:18] wat is n "bossie" ? [18:18] weed [18:18] aah [18:18] dankie '-';;; [18:18] boete bos baie hier [18:19] the boys are smoking a lot of weed? lol [18:19] boete bos is a weed that gets thorny buds on and stick in sheeps wool [18:19] lol [18:19] not a chance am I putting vinegar in a bath [18:19] and I'll live :) [18:19] superfly: happy with the new toy? [18:19] Squirm, but you might stop squirming if you use vinegar! [18:20] then the shearers charge a penalty fee (boete) to shear them [18:20] inetpro: mostly, I don't like TouchWiz [18:20] superfly: what's that, the keyboard? [18:20] Kilos: ah i see :) [18:20] inetpro: no, Samsung's interface [18:20] ah [18:21] I installed the Jellybean Launcher, so that helps [18:22] superfly: I'm very happy with SwiftKey 3 for the keyboard [18:23] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchtype.swiftkey [18:23] bbl 'o' [18:23] inetpro: I installed GO keyboard, also very happy with it. [18:39] a friend of mine uses swype [18:39] takes quite a bit of getting used to, but it's not bad [18:47] superfly: one problem I have with jellybean is the fact that Google Now stole the functionality of the tab completion in quasseldroid [18:48] it did? [18:48] can't you just press the little magnifying glass? [18:48] nick completion used to work with the search button before jellybean [18:48] ah [18:48] now the moment I press it, it launches google now [18:48] I don't have a search button [18:49] superfly: you have something for nick completion? [18:50] there's a little magnifying glass on the typing line [18:50] inetpro: like so [18:50] hmm... [18:52] superfly: Ahh, hth did I miss that? [18:52] :-) [18:52] lol [18:52] you always used the search button :-P [18:53] Yebo yes [18:53] Thanks superfly [18:54] * inetpro hides in the corner [19:28] night all. sleep tight [19:31] byeee :) [19:31] * smile4linux leaves too [19:31] night kil[tab] [19:31] goeinag ou grootte [19:33] :)