[00:01] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: the thing i am having trouble understanding is why do these errors keep taking place when nothing is wrong with the disk or the drive?
[00:02] <nazty> hey
[00:02] <nazty> how do i get rid of ubuntu after installing it using wubi.exe
[00:02] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: because optical media sucks even more than magnetism based media.
[00:03] <tomreyn> it may work on one drive but not the other
[00:03] <tomreyn> in fact this is pretty common
[00:03] <UltimaKR> tomreyn: so my only option really then is to try to use a program to allow the PC to boot from USB, so that I can use lubuntu from there?
[00:04] <UltimaKR> would i need to burn it somehow or just copy the iso to a flash drive?
[00:04] <tomreyn> that or a tftp / etherboot <tomreyn> you could still try the chainloading approach, or to boot from network
[00:05] <tomreyn> UltimaKR: i'm not terribly keen on carrying on with this
[00:05] <tomreyn> joggers: we can talk here
[00:05] <Dr_Willis_> i would just put the hd in a usb enclosure, install to it from a differnt pc.. then put the hd back
[00:06] <Dr_Willis_> or set it up with grub2 to boot an iso file from small partion at the front. ;)
[00:07] <Dr_Willis_> netbooting may be a easier solution.
[00:07] <nashant> evening Dr_Willis_. You don't have any experience getting hdmi audio to work for radeons do you?
[00:08] <ikonia> !pm > joggers
[00:08] <Dr_Willis_> nashant:  i rarely use ati video cards.
[00:08] <ikonia> joggers: please see the private message from ubottu, I've asked you to stop pm'ing people earlier
[00:08] <nashant> Yeah, I thought that might be the case
[00:08] <Dr_Willis_> nashant:  run that pavucontrol tool and  twiddle with it would be step 1 ;)
[00:09] <Dr_Willis_> joggers:  no need to msg me.. and ive no idea what you are asking abut Templets
[00:11] <smkatz> the line sudo mv drupal-7.18/* drupal-7.18/.htaccess /var/www/drupal isn't working.
[00:11] <ikonia> smkatz: you need to give info as I keep telling you
[00:11] <ikonia> smkatz: "it's not working" tells us nothing
[00:11] <TDJACR> Since upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04, GNOME 3 is constantly freezing or crashing, which either requires a restart or a switch to a tty and a gnome-shell --replace. I tried upgrading GNOME using the official PPA, still same issue. Occurs on two computers, both with different graphics drivers.
[00:12] <smkatz> it says no such fiile or directory
[00:12] <smkatz> for both of then
[00:12] <michagogo> tomreyn: Hmm. Just reinstalled and gave it the 128MB video from the start
[00:12] <smkatz> *them
[00:12] <michagogo> Same thing
[00:12] <ikonia> smkatz: then the files don't exist in the directory you are in
[00:12] <smkatz> don't worry -- I do expand on it's not working, it just takes me a while to type
[00:12] <smkatz> except that when I do an ls
[00:12] <smkatz> it says the directory drupal-7.18 does exist
[00:12] <smkatz> in var/www
[00:13] <ikonia> smkatz: please show me the output of this command "pwd"
[00:13] <bdi_> How do i make a shortcut to show desktop?
[00:14] <jrib> bdi_: are you using unity?
[00:16] <smkatz> I'm in var/www
[00:16] <ikonia> smkatz: I asked you for the output of the command "pwd"
[00:16] <smkatz> and there is a drupal-7.18 directory
[00:16] <ikonia> smkatz: please give me what I ask you - not what you think I want
[00:16] <bdi_> jrib, yes
[00:17] <michagogo> Hmm. Fresh install, 12.10 VM, first login. I say remind me later to the updates, and then I get "The application Compiz has closed unexpectedly."
[00:17] <smkatz> slash var slash www
[00:17] <michagogo> What might be wrong? WOuld any of the details shown there be useful in diagnosis?
[00:17] <ikonia> smkatz: do you mean /var/www
[00:17] <smkatz> (My IRC client won't send that output because it interprets it as a command.)
[00:17] <smkatz> yes
[00:18] <ikonia> michagogo: the xorg and compiz logs wouldbe the virst place to check
[00:18] <ikonia> smkatz: type <space> /var/www
[00:18] <ikonia> smkatz: now please show me the outpuf of the command "ls dru*"
[00:18] <michagogo> ikonia: There are all the problem details in the "closed unexpectedly" box -- would any of them be helpful to you?
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: to me...no, to a bug report yes
[00:19] <michagogo> Okay
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: I'd also consider your trying to run a 3d desktop in a virtual machine
[00:19] <ikonia> compiz may not be happy with that
[00:19] <michagogo> Can I tell it not to do that?
[00:19] <ikonia> michagogo: unity depends on it
[00:20] <michagogo> Wait, there was a checkbox for enabling 3d acceleration.
[00:20] <michagogo> Should I power off and tick that?
[00:20] <smkatz> in what format would you like that output
[00:20] <ikonia> try it
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: pastebin if it's long
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: actually - wait
[00:20] <ikonia> smkatz: do "ls | grep -i dru" pastebin the output of that
[00:21] <tomreyn> michagogo: that's why i brought up 3d earlier. but i doubt it works without the vbox guest utils installed. on the other hand, i think some of them got mainlined, so it could.
[00:21] <michagogo> Well, if it does need those it'll be a catch-22
[00:21] <tomreyn> michagogo: i suggested you run in recovery mode earlier (the stuff about pressing shift on boot), did you ever do it?
[00:22] <michagogo> tomreyn: Must have missed that, sorry
[00:22] <tomreyn> recovery mode doesn't require 3d
[00:22] <smkatz> can I ask you another question?
[00:22] <n00bz> Halp me please? After installing ubuntu, my laptop reboots to unknown filesysytem, grub rescue
[00:22] <smkatz> when I did the previous command
[00:22] <smkatz> I can see install.php now
[00:22] <smkatz> but yes, I'll pastebin both those outputs
[00:22] <smkatz> hang on
[00:23] <ikonia> smkatz: just the last one
[00:23] <ikonia> smkatz: not both of them
[00:23] <michagogo> tomreyn: Under advanced options for ubuntu?
[00:23] <smkatz> ok
[00:24] <n00bz> Anyone?
 michagogo: shut down the hard way, then start it again and hold doen left shift key while it's booting. this should bring up the boot menu, where you can select the recovery option.
 tomreyn: I'm going to try to do it again
 make sure you (mouse) click on the ubuntu VM before holding down shift.
[00:24] <ikonia> n00bz: saying anyone is pointless
[00:24] <smkatz> I figured it out
[00:24] <smkatz> the directory is not in the right place
[00:24] <smkatz> thank you for your time
[00:24] <smkatz> if you'd like to walk me more, feel free
[00:25] <n00bz> Understood ikonia, i'm just desperate, cos i dunno how to fix it
[00:25] <michagogo> tomreyn: Resume, clean, dpkg, failsafeX, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary?
[00:25] <wNz> n00bz: if its a fresh install you could always try again
[00:26] <tomreyn> michagogo: umm, that's not the options i expected but try failsafeX
[00:26] <michagogo> What did you expect?
[00:26] <n00bz> wNz: i've no idea how to do anything from the screen im at
[00:26] <tomreyn> michagogo: something like "Ubuntu Linux 3.5.xxx", "Ubuntu Linux 3.5.xxx (Recovery)"
[00:27] <michagogo> Yeah, I chose recovery there
[00:27] <michagogo> Then I got those choices after a bunch of verbose boot stuff
[00:27] <tomreyn> i see, i guess that's new then or i haven't run into it, yet
[00:27] <tomreyn> well failsafex should help
[00:28] <michagogo> tomreyn: Now it looks stuck: http://i.imgur.com/dHfdr.png
[00:28] <michagogo> Or is it supposed to take a while?
[00:29] <tomreyn> michagogo: this can take up to 2 minutes
[00:29] <michagogo> k
[00:29] <tomreyn> possibly more if it needs to check larger file systems
[00:30] <tomreyn> but since it's a VM i assume you only have one smaller partition there
[00:31] <Magoogle> anyone running ubuntu on the pi?
[00:31] <michagogo> IIRC it's a dynamic vhd, max 100gb
[00:32] <tomreyn> Magoogle: yes
[00:33] <michagogo> Still at that same view
[00:33] <tomreyn> michagogo: no new lines printed on screen?
[00:33] <michagogo> Nope
[00:33] <Dr_Willis_> Magoogle:  Ubuntu wont work on the raspberry Pi - untill they get it ported to the arm 6.
[00:34] <michagogo> Well, other than the ^[ from me forgetting to hit the host key before alt-tabbing
[00:34] <doctorly> I just updated and my wifi nolonger connects, any help would be great.
[00:34] <tomreyn> michagogo: is it busy on the virtual hdd? the should be an access indicator on the bottom right
[00:34] <michagogo> DOesn't seem to be doing anything, no
[00:35] <tomreyn> michagogo: hmm that's not good. reboot again, and select the fsck option this time
[00:35] <ikonia> why fsck ?
[00:36] <michagogo> tomreyn: Seems like this might be relevant: http://i.imgur.com/Rmc2X.png
[00:36] <tomreyn> ikonia: because his file system can be corrupt, having powered down uncleanly a couple times.
[00:36] <chewspam> am i in the right place for help with ubuntu?
[00:37] <ikonia> where did he say it powered down unclear (am I missing text)
[00:37] <tomreyn> michagogo: so when the blue platters icon, the most left one is blue instead of grey it means there is HDD activity.
[00:37] <michagogo> No, it's always blue
[00:37] <cexpert1> All: Where is a good channel for PHP OOP?
[00:37] <tomreyn> ikonia: i suggested that he should close the guest window earlier, which means an unclen shutdown
[00:38] <michagogo> Activity is indicated by a green circle on the bottom-right corner
[00:38] <MDMA> so i made an install of ubuntu alongside win8, but after reboot it wont offer me a chance to start ubuntu, it will just start win8 immediately. what could have gone wrong? how do i boot ubuntu instead?
[00:38] <ikonia> cexpert1: we are not a yellow pages of irc channels
[00:38] <michagogo> Of the HDD icon, that is
[00:38] <ikonia> cexpert1: #freenode will teach you how to use irc
[00:38] <tomreyn> michagogo: oh okay, i think you'Re right, the platter icon just indicates that a HDD is connected
[00:38] <michagogo> Yep
[00:39] <lordnaz> hey
[00:39] <michagogo> That's the blueness, I think, since there's a greyed out cd next to it
[00:39] <cexpert1> ikonia: Just asking, sure someone know, been searching and can't find one.
[00:39] <lordnaz> im trying to boot ubuntu off a usb flash drive i just bought
[00:39] <chewspam> I'm a n00b with ununtu.  i just did a fresh install of 10.04, and I am unable to connect wirelessly.  Any dieas?
[00:39] <bdi_> Anybody in here using crashplan.com? Are they good?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> chewspam:  depending on the network card. you may need to install some addatona drivers/firware
[00:39] <lordnaz> should i use unetbootin.exe?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis_> firmware
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  unetbootin, or the many tools at the pendrivelinux site.
[00:40] <tomreyn> !ot | bdi_
[00:40] <ikonia> cexpert1: #freenode will teach you how to search/use irc
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  or the various 'image' tools to put the iso straight to the flash
[00:40] <chewspam> Dr., I can't seem to find any linux drivers for my Atheros AR8132
[00:40] <lordnaz> Dr_Willis_, should i use the pendrive the way it is?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> way it is?
[00:40] <lordnaz> it has the .exe's and everything on it
[00:40] <lordnaz> i just bought it
[00:40] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  what exes?
[00:41] <tomreyn> ubuntu.exe
[00:41] <lordnaz> RunSanClubDisk.exe
[00:41] <lordnaz> etc...
[00:41] <Dr_Willis_> You bot a Ubuntu flash?
[00:41] <MDMA> i made a n ubuntu install but i want to replace it with an arch install, i can just overwrit that part of the harddrive with arch right?
[00:41] <RollinV2> mdma: not at all
[00:41] <cexpert1> ikonia: Already been there and no room search available nor instructions on search.  Also Room search on IM client only showing first result, not able to see all!
[00:41] <lordnaz> i took it out of the box and ran unetbootin.exe using the ubuntu iso
[00:41] <RollinV2> go to the #archlinux room and tell them about your plan, get your flame shield ready
[00:41] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:   You used Unetbootin to put the ISO file image onto the flash? or how did that ubuntu stuff get there?
[00:41] <lordnaz> all the linux stuff is on theree
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: no you've not
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: you have not been in that channel
[00:42] <lordnaz> but the flash drivee stuff is still on there too
[00:42] <ikonia> cexpert1: the people in #freenode will teach you how to user IRC / search / find channels
[00:42] <michagogo> cexpert1:you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[00:42] <Magoogle> Dr. Willis yea sorry its xbmc thats running on PI but thats the previous version before the mmade it run off of 1q2.10
[00:42] <Magoogle> 12.10*
[00:42] <Costanza> hello.. what kernel version does the latest ubuntu have?
[00:42] <Ekranos> hello guys, i looked alot for drivers for nvidia optimus and workarounds, does anyone know how i can use nvidia optimus on my laptop?
[00:42] <michagogo> tomreyn: It's been 4-5 minutes that it's been showing this:tomreyn:
[00:43] <michagogo> Erm
[00:43] <michagogo> http://i.imgur.com/worRS.png
[00:43] <cexpert1>  /msg alias list *php*
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> lordnaz:  try to boot it up and see if it works. :) if not use some other tool to put the ISO onto the flash. backup any stuff that came with the flash if you want to keep it.. but ive never seen them come with anything worth keeping
[00:43] <doctorly> I just updated and my wifi nolonger connects, any help would be great.
[00:43] <michagogo> cexpert1: alis, not alias, and with no leading space
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> Magoogle:  what was the question? I ant remember
[00:43] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[00:43] <lordnaz> k cool
[00:43] <doctorly> no longer*
[00:44] <chewspam> Any idea where I can find linux drivers for an Atheros AR8132 wireless card?
[00:44] <Ekranos> my ubuntu 23.20 has 3.5.0-21-generic
[00:44] <tomreyn> michagogo: that's after rebooting with the "fsck" option?
[00:44] <Ekranos> 12.10*
[00:44] <michagogo> tomreyn: Rebooting, choosing recovery, and then fsck from the pink menu
[00:44] <Costanza> 3.5 kernel.. ok, thanks
[00:45] <Ekranos> Does anyone know how i can use NVIDIA Optimus on my Acer Laptop?
[00:45] <cexpert1> michagogo: How do I pipe to .txt file?
[00:45] <Ekranos> apt-get update > ./text.txt or apt-get update >> ./text.txt
[00:45] <michagogo> cexpert1: That's a client thing, I don't know
[00:45] <tomreyn> michagogo: can you just hit ctrl-c a couple times (after clicking the window so it grabs your keyboard input)
[00:46] <MDMA> so i made an install of ubuntu alongside win8, but after reboot it wont offer me a chance to start ubuntu, it will just start win8 immediately. what could have gone wrong? how do i boot ubuntu instead?
[00:46] <tomreyn> michagogo: if this makes a difference it will show instantly
[00:46] <michagogo> It did
[00:46] <michagogo> Booted to ubuntu login screen
[00:46] <Ekranos> Can somebody help me with NVIDIA Optimus support on Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:47] <Costanza> MDMA do you have secure boot turned on?
[00:47] <LanDi> Maybe u dont install the grub
[00:47] <michagogo> Should I go ahead and log in?
[00:47] <Ekranos> MDMA, just turn off uefi in your BIOS
[00:47] <Costanza> if he turn off UEFI then he cant boot the OS because he probably installed both in UEFI mode
[00:47] <LanDi> =)
[00:48] <MDMA> Costanza: dont know. // what is UEFI?
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo: weird. maybe there's a pause there on purpose so one can read the output. now see if you can select a different session type on the login screen
[00:48] <Ekranos> I had the same issue and it worked for me then
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo:  i.e. not "Ubuntu / Unity" but something else
[00:48] <michagogo> Erm.
[00:48] <MDMA> Landi: did you talk to me?
[00:48] <michagogo> Virtualbox just crashed
[00:48] <tomreyn> michagogo: whoops. which version?
[00:49] <michagogo> Or rather, the VM did
[00:49] <tomreyn> same thing
[00:49] <michagogo> tomreyn: The latest -- updated it today
[00:49] <LanDi> MDMA, ya
[00:49] <MDMA> i should install the grubn before i installed ubuntu?
[00:49] <Costanza> does ubuntu boot using grub2-efi or does it boot to uefi using kernel?
[00:50] <Ekranos> Is there somebody that can help me with NVIDIA Optimus on Ubuntu 12.10?
[00:50] <tomreyn> michagogo: that would be 4.2.6. it says on the help menu, "about" option
[00:50] <michagogo> Yeah, that
[00:50] <michagogo> tomreyn: Okay, booted again
[00:50] <michagogo> The only other option is Guest session or remote login
[00:50] <tomreyn> michagogo: do the failsafe again
[00:50] <michagogo> Okay
[00:51] <michagogo> Let me guess -- ^C that?
[00:51] <LanDi> MDMA, When u are installing Ubuntu, he question u if u want install grub in MBR, u need say yes
[00:51] <tomreyn> michagogo: yes i guess
[00:51] <MDMA> MBR?
[00:51] <MDMA> LanDI: ifi didnt, how can i start it?
[00:52] <tomreyn> michagogo: my goal is for you to update ubuntu to the latest version, after which i hope booting with default settings will be flawless
[00:52] <michagogo> tomreyn: I downloaded and installed today
[00:52] <doctorly> I am having a really hard time setting up my wireless network. I have no ssid showing up when I try to connect. Is there a way to see all of the available networks??
[00:52] <n00bz> rawr!
[00:52] <LanDi> MDMA, MBR = Master Boot Record
[00:52] <tomreyn> michagogo: i was referring to patches.
[00:52] <Costanza> do i have to compile kernel with CONFIG_EFI_STUB=y myself???
[00:53] <michagogo> Okay, at the logon screen
[00:53] <michagogo> Though it looks the same
[00:53] <michagogo> Entered password...
[00:53] <michagogo> let's se
[00:53] <michagogo> e
[00:53] <tomreyn> michagogo: we'll see
[00:53] <n00bz> i've rebooted after install of ubuntu, and have a black termail screen that says grub rescue... what can i do?
[00:54] <n00bz> i don't even know how to safely power off from here
[00:55] <Dr_Willis_> the system dident boot properly n00bz  you an just hit the reset/power buttons
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> n00bz:  you are not in the OS - but you are in the Grub Boot loader 'emergancey' type fallback command line
[00:56] <n00bz> but it keeps bootiing to that Dr_Willis_
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> So you need to reinstall/fix grub.
[00:56] <tomreyn> n00bz: you can safely pull the plug or rather switch off your PDU there, or hit reset button. you should download an ubuntu live/install cd for your version, boot off it (burn to cd or write it to a usb key) and run the recovery option
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> !fixtryb
[00:56] <Dr_Willis_> !fixgrub
[00:56] <n00bz> right, i got the power off bit
[00:56] <michagogo> tomreyn: Haven't gotten a dialog yet, but nothing else either. Just the wallpaper image
[00:57] <michagogo> Oh, wait -- there's the Compiz crash
[00:57] <michagogo> :-/
[00:57] <n00bz> tomreyn, i've still got the cd, but how do i even load it?
[00:57] <Costanza> !kernel
[00:58] <tomreyn> michagogo: :-/ i'm not sure what is wrong, but something is very wrong. if your host system was linux i'd recommend you to inspect the system log, as well as VirtualBoxs' log
[00:58] <Costanza> !Mainline kernel
[00:58] <n00bz> and Dr_Willis_ is it safe for me to mess around with grub if i don't know what i'm doing?
[00:58] <michagogo> Is there some kind of keyboard shortcut that will bring up a terminal or something?
[00:58] <tomreyn> n00bz: you place it in the cdrom by and configure your bios to boot off it.
[00:59] <n00bz> you make it sound so easy :P
[00:59] <tomreyn> n00bz: often there is some F key you can hit to access the boot menu when powering up the system
[00:59] <Dr_Willis_> n00bz:  live cd + that boot-repair tool is where i would start
[01:00] <tomreyn> n00bz: if there is not, you need to access your biod and then look for startup/boot options and change the boot order so that cdrom is before HDD
[01:00] <michagogo> tomreyn: Okay, it's 3 am here
[01:00] <michagogo> I'm giving up for now
[01:00] <Guest65540> hi.. can anyone help me out?  I am trying to get the open source ati drivers to work under xubuntu 12.10, but I can't seem to get them to recognize the card.  12.04 recognizes the card with the opensource drivers.
[01:01] <tomreyn> n00bz: also have a look at what Dr_Willis made ubottu tell you earlier
[01:01] <n00bz> i am!
[01:02] <tomreyn> Guest65540: which model do you have there?
[01:02] <n00bz> i know my questions are retarded, but i do listen
[01:02] <Guest65540> 6290.  It's a cheap netbook amd c-60 processor
[01:02] <tomreyn> n00bz: alright, sorry ;) people are often too lazy
[01:02] <tomreyn> or overwhelmed
[01:03] <Guest65540> I can get the properiety drivers working but they don't work so well with mythtv
[01:03] <n00bz> tomreyn, i appreciate the help. my only other option is to take it locally to someone who offered to remove my HD save my files and reinstall windows
[01:03] <tomreyn> Guest65540: 6290? which brand?
[01:03] <Guest65540> ati
[01:03] <Guest65540> it's an apu
[01:04] <tomreyn> n00bz: i'd spend my night here, then, too ;)
[01:04] <n00bz> heh
[01:04] <n00bz> i reckon
[01:04] <MDMA> how is ubuntu for wathcning movies?
[01:04] <tomreyn> Guest65540: so ati is the brand of the netbook, right?
[01:04] <[snake]> can I tell ubuntu not to activate the screensaver while I am watching a video?
[01:04] <cakeboss> ZOMG EVERYONE GET OUT
[01:04] <cakeboss> THE WORLD IS ENDING
[01:04] <cakeboss> HURRY
[01:04] <FloodBot1> cakeboss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <[snake]> with flash that is
[01:04] <Guest65540> it's a cheap acer 722
[01:05] <tomreyn> i see
[01:05] <Septima> MDMA: just fine
[01:05] <Guest65540> the other option is to try helping me upgrade the kernel of 12.04 to 3.3+.. can't seem to get that to work
[01:05] <Guest65540> keeps using 3.2 for some reason
[01:06] <tomreyn> [snake]: try caffeine
[01:07] <tomreyn> [snake]: thats a software, not a bad joke
[01:07] <tomreyn> Guest65540: give me a mnute, i need to look stuff up
[01:07] <Guest65540> no problem
[01:07] <XMLnewbi__> is it possible to re install a Ubuntu server over ssh?
[01:07] <[snake]> tomreyn, that's awesome, I'll check it out :P
[01:08] <Septima> what's up n00bz?
[01:08] <tomreyn> Guest65540: you want to upgrade to linux 3.2? ubuntu 12.10 should come with linux 3.5 if i'm not mistaken.
[01:08] <n00bz> it's broken septima :)
[01:09] <DjuharDudaev> vlc
[01:09] <Guest65540> it does .. it uses 3.5
[01:09] <n00bz> SNAFU :)
[01:09] <TheLordOfTime> XMLnewbi__, "reinstall"?  not really, since SSH implies the server remains on and connected...
[01:09] <Guest65540> but that doesn't work correctly with the open source drivers or something
[01:09] <Septima> how's it broken?
[01:09] <RollinV2> XML nope, but what type of server is it? a VPS?
[01:09] <tomreyn> Guest65540: so you downgraded your kernel?!
[01:09] <Guest65540> so that's why I was going to just upgrade 12.04 3.3
[01:10] <Guest65540> no I didn't
[01:10] <Guest65540> I have two installations of linux ..
[01:10] <n00bz> well, my startup screen is grub error, and i don't know what to do...
[01:11] <Septima> n00bz: have you ran boot-repair on it?
[01:11] <XMLnewbi__> is it possible using a VPS  to start from scratch and switch to cpanel's
[01:11] <tomreyn> Guest65540: okay, can you please list the installations of linux and other operating sstems you have on this cetbook, including the linux kernel versions for me?
[01:11] <tomreyn> *netbook
[01:11] <n00bz> septima if i knew how, i might
[01:12] <n00bz> but what will boot repair do?
[01:12] <Guest65540> ok.. I have mythbuntu 12.04 installed it's using 3.2 35 I think
[01:12] <RollinV2> XML yes you can install cpanel on a VPS if your host OS is supported (ex CentOS)
[01:12] <n00bz> i need windows at the moment, to run a VM to be able to use ubuntu, because my internet doesn't work with it
[01:12] <Guest65540> and I have xubuntu 12.10 and it's using 3.5 0.21
[01:13] <Guest65540> I want to try upgrading the mythbuntu to 3.3.
[01:13] <doctorly> I am having problems connecting to the internet. When I initially ran the setup, it connected fine. But now I cant see the ssid of any network and I cant connect if I do it manually, I have the right driver and everything though.
[01:13] <RollinV2> n00bz if you have moderatly powerful system virtualizing ubuntu as a guest in a windows host is fine
[01:13] <Septima> n00bz: well if ubuntu's in the VM, you can do one of two things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:14] <Septima> n00bz: either mount the boot-repair disk image or mount the ubuntu install iso
[01:14] <RollinV2> noobz, if you have the cash using vmware + vmware tools makes the ubuntu vm management a lot easier
[01:14] <Septima> vmware player is free
[01:15] <RollinV2> yes, workstation is much improved but not worth the cash for average users
[01:15]  * n00bzz kicks her ISP
[01:16] <Septima> n00bzz: you can use boot repair one of two ways: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair the difference with a VM is that you load the iso up in the vm instead of burning it to a cd
[01:17] <tomreyn> Guest65540: alright, gotcha. if you don't mind, can you pick a different nickname, this would make adressing you easier for me.
[01:17] <Guest65540> how do you change again? /nick "username"?
[01:17] <n00bzz> i have it on my HD as well septima, it's just useless to me without internet
[01:17] <ATI> there we go
[01:17] <ATI> haha
[01:18] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, cool, i hope this nickname isn't taken, yet.
[01:18] <Septima> n00bzz: you had the usb modem didn't you?
[01:18] <n00bzz> yesh septima
[01:18] <Septima> n00bzz: did that setup page not work for you?
[01:18] <n00bzz> i've 48 hours experience with linux, i'm still trying to understand
[01:18] <n00bzz> nothing works out of the box >.<
[01:19] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, let's concentrate on getting the drivers work on xubuntu 12.10 for now, i need yet to read up more, brb
[01:19] <ATI> oh ok.. no problem.
[01:19] <Septima> n00bzz: honestly, usb modems are just an odd thing
[01:20] <n00bzz> i struggled septima, since i could only make changes to ubuntu in my VM, while i look at the instructions
[01:20] <kevinch> dumb question, how can I find which files are using my boot drives space?
[01:20] <kevinch> like the biggest files/directories.  I have other hdd's mounted that I don't care about, they're nearly empty
[01:20] <Septima> n00bzz: well doing it in the VM won't work.. because your VM is getting it's connection routed through your host (windows)
[01:21] <Septima> n00bzz: i'd print the instructions and use your other install
[01:21] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: you can do this in the terminal with (du or find or ls) and you can try in the gui with 'disk usage analyzer'
[01:22] <kevinch> yeah this is ubuntu server so i'll have to use du or something
[01:22] <n00bzz> i'd need to dload usb_switchmode for that septima?
[01:22] <ATI> tomreyn:  not sure if this info is needed.  Under 12.04 when I hit glxinfo render reads Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM while on 12.10 it stats LLVMpipe.
[01:22] <Septima> n00bzz: with apt-get? i'd try it.. if it already has it, it'll say so and won't bother downloading it again
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-find-the-largest-filesdirectories-on-a-linuxunixbsd-filesystem/
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> good start up article
[01:23] <kevinch> thanks
[01:23] <n00bzz> blah, wont work without internet septima :P
[01:23] <SolarisBoy> yw
[01:23] <Septima> n00bzz: yeah, i realized that after i said it
[01:23] <n00bzz> heh
[01:24] <kevinch> du just hangs sometimes
[01:24] <Septima> n00bzz: looks like it's already pre-installed on ubuntu 12.10
[01:25] <kevinch> i also have 0 bytes free so that could be a problem
[01:25] <n00bzz> excellent, finally some good news septima :D
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: yea possible 0 space causes odd issues with applications
[01:25] <kevinch> time to go deleting
[01:25] <brucet927> Is this the right place to ask a simple question about ubuntu one?
[01:25] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: is this a remote server?
[01:27] <IdleOne> brucet927: #ubuntuone is the place
[01:27] <brucet927> cheers Idle0ne
[01:27] <kevinch> home media server SolarisBoy
[01:28] <t-rex_> can someone help me figure out my wireless situation? I am using a netbook and cant figure out why the connection went out
[01:28] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, thanks. now start with the instructions in the firts answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-restore-default-video-drivers
[01:29] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: boot the live cd and run the du's find's from there if needed
[01:29] <tomreyn> ATI: that's until the reboot, do not install the ati drivers afterwards.
[01:29] <kevinch> i found a few to delete
[01:29] <kevinch> 30gb may be too small for a boot drive and temp download folder eh?
[01:29] <ATI> ok give me a second.
[01:30] <SolarisBoy> 30gb for boot is huge unless you plan on having a *lot* of kernels
[01:30] <SolarisBoy> unless you mean boot=root..
[01:30] <WeThePeople> how do i setup a second monitor in 12.04?
[01:30] <kevinch> then something is taking up my disk
[01:30] <kevinch> nope not at all, but I do plan on using it for a temporary download folder
[01:30] <ATI> tomreyn do you know if I can do this through ssh?
[01:30] <kevinch> for sickbeard/couchpotato
[01:31] <tomreyn> ATI: yes you can
[01:31] <ATI> tomreyn: ok will do...
[01:32] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: which user are you?
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> kevinch: if your having problems with commands && your disk supports and has reserved space - you can maybe do the stuff as root
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> s/disk/file system/
[01:33] <kevinch> I was doing root btw
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> ok
[01:34] <kevinch>  /dev/sdc1                           30439744  29387828          0 100% /
[01:34] <kevinch> 0 available
[01:34] <kevinch> but I just deleted some
[01:35] <tripelb> Could someone explain to me what is the difference/distinction between askUbuntu and Ubuntu Forums? Thanks.
[01:35] <brucet927> I'm using the gallium drivers for this laptop's graphics card (ATI X1200), would their be a performance boost using the official proprietary drivers from ATI?
[01:36] <ATI> tomreyn:  weird I can't seem to libgl1-mesa-dri package when I try the apt-get install
[01:36] <tomreyn> kevinch: it says there's more data stored on it than the max capacity. unmount and run fsck.
[01:36] <kevinch> its my boot drive
[01:36] <kevinch> can i safely unmount?
[01:36] <ATI> tomreyn: iis there a repository I should try adding?
[01:37] <kevinch> I don't think my mounts for my other 2 drives (2TB each are working, sick beard is saying its out of space)
[01:37] <ATI> tomreyn: oh wait nevermind... It copied and pasted wrong.. sorry about that
[01:37] <tomreyn> ATI: no, this should be in default repositories. please post the output of the failed command, as well as the command itself (you ran) to a pastebin
[01:38] <tomreyn> ok
[01:38] <Dr_Willis_> askubuntu.com is a lot more orginized for one tripelb  :)
[01:39] <b44> How to update ubuntu 10.04 stable to testing ?
[01:39] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, have you setup up dual monitors in 12.04
[01:39] <iceroot> b44: dont do that if you dont know how to upgrade to the development version
[01:39] <tomreyn> kevinch: touch /forcefsck && reboot
[01:40] <WeThePeople> dr_willis_,have you setup up dual monitors in 12.04
[01:40] <b44> iceroot: you mean apt-get update  ?
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: no
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: that command will not update your packages
[01:40] <iceroot> b44: why you want 13.04?
[01:41] <b44> iceroot: I don't want 13.04 ... I just want the "testing" mode of 10.04 instead of "stable"
[01:41] <iceroot> b44: and what is the testing-mode on 10.04?
[01:41] <ATI> tomreyn: alright went through all the instructions and rebooted.  I still get the same results.
[01:41] <ATI> tomreyn: could it be that I need to configure the xorg.conf?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis_> WeThePeople:  with my nvidia systems.. I just plug them in. make sure i got hte nvidia drivers installed and with 12.10 twinview auto kicks in.
[01:42] <b44> hm... maybe I misunderstood something. iceroot, what I want is to install the newest openjdk and scala packages. That's why I wanted to change to "testing packages" instead of "stable packages". E.g stable java-jdk is v6, but testing is v7
[01:42] <WeThePeople> dr_willis_, i have the other monitor plugged in and its not auto detecting it
[01:43] <iceroot> !backports | b44
[01:43] <ATI> tomreyn:  even though I ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" no xorg.conf was created under /etc/X11
[01:43] <tomreyn> ATI: you shouldn't need to configure xorg, it should be automatic.
[01:43] <ATI> tomreyn: the xorg.conf file is empty.
[01:43] <tomreyn> ATI: xorg populates the contents of this file in memory when it starts up
[01:44] <tomreyn> so it is never written to disk
[01:45] <iceroot> tomreyn: udev is managing the settings and its created at every boot.
[01:45] <ATI> tomreyn: oh hmm.. didn't know that.  anyways no drivers appear to be loading up correctly.. all I can select under display is 1024x768 and the refresh rate is 0 hz for the laptop screen!
[01:45] <tomreyn> ATI: that's when you use the open source drivers. we'll see what you are running now. please run: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A10 VGA | pastebinit
[01:45] <iceroot> tomreyn: if you want to overwrite the detecting of udev you have to create /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:46] <tomreyn> iceroot: we don't want to for now. udev writes an xorg.conf? where to?
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: no
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: udev is detecting the settings and communicationg directly with xorg
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: without a config file
[01:46] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453774/
[01:46] <iceroot> tomreyn: if you want an own config you have to create xorg.conf. everything in that file will overwrite the settings from udev
[01:47] <tomreyn> iceroot: okay, this sounds like i can agree to it :) thanks for explaining.
[01:47] <tomreyn> ATI: oh, i expected you to have two actually. having just one should make it easier.
[01:48] <tomreyn> ATI: can you re-run this with slight modification please: sudo lspci -knnv | grep -A20 VGA | pastebinit
[01:48] <ATI> tomreyn: it should be ... but I guess nothing ATI ever produces is ever easy to work with
[01:48] <ATI> ok..
[01:49] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453782/
[01:49] <R33p3R> need some help please !
[01:50] <R33p3R> i have a 3g dongle, when i boot the computer with the dongle on usb port it works, but when i start unity then insert the dongle it doesn t recognise it
[01:50] <R33p3R> someone having the same prob could give me some lights plz
[01:51] <tomreyn> ATI: okay so your ati is detected correctly and you're using the right driver already, that's good. can you sum up the problems again for me?
[01:51] <ATI> tomreyn:  I can't even change my display settings, and nothing is outputed through hdmi.  right now I am stuck at 1024x768
[01:52] <ATI> tomreyn: maybe I using my windows experience, but usually that meant that the drivers aren't loaded correctly?
[01:53] <b44> iceroot: thanks. I enabled backports, and configured backports to be used automatically in installs. But apt-cache search only shows openjdk-7-jre, not openjdk-7-jdk. Why?
[01:54] <iceroot> !info openjdk-7-jre lucid-backports
[01:55] <iceroot> !lucid
[01:55] <iceroot> b44: what is the output of "apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jre
[01:55] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, let's see what Xorg says about it, can you post the log, please? ( ls -lah /var/log/Xorg.*.log && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ) | pastebinit
[01:55] <iceroot> !info openjdk-7-jre lucid
[01:56] <b44> iceroot: hm.... it's installed: none,  and all other things empty
[01:56] <b44> seems not to be available :/
[01:56] <iceroot> b44: the name of the repo is interesting
[01:57] <iceroot> b44: you said its shown up via apt-cache
[01:58] <b44> yes
[01:58] <ATI> tomreyn:  are you sure "ls -lah /var/log/Xorg.*.log && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ) | pastebinit" is the right syntax?  it says -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[01:58] <iceroot> ATI: remove the )
[01:58] <tomreyn> ATI: you're missing the leading paratheses
[01:58] <ATI> iceroot:  oh wait.. yeah thanks
[01:59] <ATI> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453804/
[01:59] <tomreyn> thanks
[01:59] <b44> iceroot: hm.. It's strange. When I autofill after typing "apt-get install" I get openjdk-7-jre as option. But "apt-cache search openjdk" doesn't give
[02:00] <b44> iceroot: Any way to install java v7 ?
[02:00] <b44> isn't it supported on 10.04 ?
[02:01] <ouyes> how many of you are running 12.04?
[02:01] <ouyes> a lot of new hardware is not good supported on 12.04
[02:02] <kevinch> I'm only using 92% of / but I still get this error when I run du
[02:02] <kevinch> sort: write failed: /tmp/sortP2mbdQ: No space left on device
[02:02] <kevinch> well this command in particular
[02:02] <kevinch> du -a /var | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[02:02] <who0ami> hi
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> kevinch:  7% is reserved normally for root/lost+found ussage
[02:02] <Dr_Willis_> oope 5%
[02:03] <Dr_Willis_> kevinch:  also be sure your /tmp/ is not mounted to a ram device. :) like mine is
[02:03] <ouyes> kevinch, why not try to make space
[02:03] <kevinch> I'm trying to figure out whats taking up all my space
[02:03] <kevinch> so its difficult to do so
[02:04] <kevinch> with being so low
[02:04] <ouyes> Dr_Willis_, why you mount your /tmp to ram device? how many ram do you have?
[02:04] <tomreyn> ATI: hmm you're right, it's using the VESA fallback drivers for some reason, that's bad.
[02:04] <Dr_Willis_> ouroz:  8gb of ram on a SSD system.  :)
[02:05] <tomreyn> [    17.434] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:05] <tomreyn> [    17.434] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[02:06] <tomreyn> this is bad
[02:06] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm..  what does drm do?
[02:06] <kevinch> i hate running out of room
[02:06] <kevinch> so annoying
[02:07] <kevinch> and hard to get out of
[02:07] <tomreyn> ATI: direct rendering mode, a requirement for 3D acceleration
[02:08] <ATI> tomreyn: ahh... I could have sworn it worked under live-usb .. let me check.  once it rebooted I started getting this problem again.
[02:09] <tomreyn> ok
[02:10] <ATI> tomreyn: yeah.. no problems... arghhhhhhh.........
[02:12] <ATI> tomreyn: is there some way I can take the live-usb display settings and to replace the installed version's?
[02:14] <tomreyn> ATI: good question, i don't know how. having its Xorg.0.log could already help, though
[02:14] <joggers> hi
[02:14] <ATI> tomreyn: you mean I should pastebin that too?
[02:15] <tomreyn> ATI: yes please
[02:16] <ATI> alright give me a second.. I guess I should try install openssh-server so I can copy and paste easier
[02:16] <djzn> anyone figured out how to make the mouse pointer LARGER in Unity+Compiz ?
[02:18] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. you wouldn't know the password to a live-cd where the username is this would you?
[02:18] <tomreyn> ATI: good plan. btw. here's how you could dump the config (but you'd need to do this from a real terminal, i.e. ctrl-alt-F1 or so; SSH should also work): http://mummila.net/nuudelisoppa/2012/06/25/dump-effective-xorg-conf-note-to-self/
[02:19] <tomreyn> tomreyn: where the username is what?
[02:19] <n00bzz> ugh, how do i get boot repair without internet?
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: username is "this"
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: it's the default username
[02:19] <ATI> tomreyn: I don't know what the default password is...
[02:19] <tomreyn> ATI: is it? that's news to me.
[02:20] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. let me look up how to change passwords
[02:21] <tomreyn> ATI: sudo passwd <username>
[02:21] <tomreyn> but you'll need to be able to run sudo
[02:22] <tomreyn> or just run "passwd" to set a password when you're the "this" user already
[02:22] <ATI> tomreyn: cool thanks.
[02:23] <ATI> tomreyn: ok.. here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453833/
[02:24] <tomreyn> ATI: please do: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:25] <tomreyn> you have two options there which you need to remove: radeon.audio=1 radeon.modeset=1
[02:25] <me_> helllo?
[02:25] <djzn> hey guys, i'm trying to make my pointer larger, any tips? seems like dconf-editor do change the sizes, but the pointer is inconsistent in some apps and unty.
[02:25] <wa5qjh> KEEP CALM and remember that if the MAYANS could predict the future, there would still be MAYANS!
[02:25] <ATI> tomreyn: oh..  ok.. let me get rid of those.  I need to reboot then
[02:25] <tomreyn> ATI: then reboot, and post your X log file again
[02:26] <tomreyn> right
[02:26] <me_> that is tru
[02:26] <ATI> tomreyn: should I try getting the xorg.conf stuff from the live cd first?
[02:26] <tomreyn> ATI: yes give it a try first
[02:26] <ATI> tomreyn ok... you said ssh should be fine right?
[02:27] <tomreyn> ATI: yes should be. the grpahical output on the monitor will fail, but i guess that's okay
[02:28] <ATI> tomreyn ok... I am almost finish getting the dump just need to winscp it
[02:28] <tomreyn> you can pastebin it
[02:29] <ATI> how do you pastebin exactly?
[02:29] <tomreyn> pastebinit /path/to/file
[02:29] <ATI> ahh.. ok
[02:29] <tomreyn> will post the file to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <ATI> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453836/
[02:30] <ATI> ok rebooting now
[02:32] <MrWibbles> is there a way of using setfacl so it applies to every directory in a path
[02:32] <MrWibbles> i.e. setfacl --modify user:whatever:r-x /this/and/this/and/this
[02:32] <MrWibbles> so it doesn't apply to /this/notthis for example
[02:33] <ATI> tomreyn: alright so I removed radeon=1 stuff.. did a sudo update-grub and I still have the same problem
[02:34] <ATI> tomreyn: after a reboot that is.
[02:34] <ATI> tomreyn: should I try putting the xorg.conf in now?
[02:35] <tomreyn> ATI: what's the output of: grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <tomreyn> ATI: this should be a single line only, if so you can post it here
[02:35] <ATI> grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <ATI> whops
[02:36] <tomreyn> :)
[02:36] <ATI> [    17.407] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:36] <tomreyn> dang
[02:36] <tomreyn> ATI: grep -F 'Kernel command line' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:37] <tomreyn> also a single line, can also go here
[02:37] <ATI> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-21-generic root=UUID=6924c69f-4fca-48fd-90d3-be094fc50c59 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[02:37] <tomreyn> hmm okay, well try the xorg.conf then
[02:37] <ATI> alright
[02:38] <tomreyn> if it works that way we can modify it to make it less static.
[02:39] <ATI> hah.. it didn't work........ hahah
[02:40] <b44> missing dependency "libjansi-java" for installing "scala 2.9.2-400"
[02:40] <b44> How to install that? it's not in listed in packages..
[02:40] <lipton> hi
[02:40] <ATI> tomreyn: maybe I should just try reinstalling xubuntu again............
[02:43] <tomreyn> ATI: so you're saying it worked initially and broken when you tried fglrx?
[02:44] <ATI> tomreyn: I don't quite remember... but I don't think it ever worked.....  then I got some instructions to try installing vaapi... that didn't work, and it installed fglrx which I later purged..
[02:45] <ATI> tomreyn: fglrx works.. but it feels slower when using mythtv under 12.04.. the problem was 12.04 and opensource is that the sound wasn't working
[02:46] <ATI> tomreyn: that is.. sound through hdmi.
[02:47] <tomreyn> i'Ve also read reports on fglrx being slower than radeon (if it works)
[02:48] <ATI> yeah.. I read that if I had kernel 3.3+ installed that sound was supported.. but I couldn't get that working.
[02:48] <tomreyn> and here it says that the "[KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported." problem reported in Xorg.0.log can be prevented by disabling the framebuffer: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0
[02:48] <ATI> I mean I couldn't install 3.3
[02:48] <ATI> oh let me read that
[02:49] <ATI> do I disable the framebuffer in the xorg.conf?
[02:50] <tomreyn> well, the gentoo people did it by rebuilding their kernel, that's not really the preferred option for us.
[02:50] <ATI> haha
[02:51] <tomreyn> you could probably blacklist the module, or maybe it's possible in xorg.conf, too. the xorg.conf you created on the live cd sets a lower priority on it, this can be sufficient to fix the issue, too
[02:51] <ATI> I can reinstall xubuntu again just to check that I didn't set anything weird the first time around.....
[02:52] <ATI> hmm.. ok.  let me look into how to disable the framebuffer though xorg
[02:52] <tomreyn> the other issue when you disable the framebuffer device, though, is that i think you loose the failsafe X, too, i.e. if the radeon driver doesn'T work you then get no output at all
[02:52] <tomreyn> no grpahical output, that is
[02:53] <tomreyn> i think you would best try the xorg.conf from the live CD now
[02:54] <ATI> I did try the xorg.conf from the live cd ...
[02:54] <treenom> I really need help getting my wifi working. I was connected, but after I updated it started saying that I am now disconnected. It wont even list any ssid
[02:54] <tomreyn> and rebooted?
[02:54] <ATI> yeah.. I rebooted and everything was the same
[02:54] <ATI> same problem.
[02:54] <treenom> as me?
[02:55] <ATI> sorry talking to tomreyn
[02:55] <tomreyn> ATI: had you done this again? still same output? grep -F '[KMS]' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:56] <ATI> [    17.324] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[02:56] <tomreyn> well that sucks :-/
[02:56] <ATI> yeah..
[02:57] <ATI> it looks like I can disable the framebuffer through grub?
[02:57] <ATI> just add " vga=normal nomodeset"?
[02:57] <treenom> I am having a really hard time with my wireless, if any one could point me in the right direction, it would be amazing
[03:00] <tomreyn> ATI: vga=nofb OR vga=normal should work, yes, why nomodeset?
[03:01] <ATI> tomreyn: oh  I don't know.. didn't check..
[03:01] <tomreyn> ATI: i guess you should actually put the radeon.modeset=1 in again, to force it
[03:02] <tomreyn> as well as the vga option, then update-grub, reboot, rename xorg.conf (so it is no longer used), reboot again.
[03:02] <ATI> ok give me a second.
[03:04] <samm> ello World
[03:05] <fsvieira> hi, I am a linux user for many years, I have ubuntu with unity, I love unity but it freeze most of the times in the last updates... how can I solve this, and should I switch to a more open UI?
[03:07] <Septima> fsvieira: i'd upgrade my video drivers
[03:11] <ATI> tomreyn: hmm.. well vga=nofb with the radeon mode =1 thingy didn't work correctly.. now all I get is a black screen, and I can't even ssh in..
[03:11] <Kardos> can the bootable install cd assemble a mdadm array?
[03:11] <fsvieira> Septima, I am upgraded , another thing I notice is the performace, I just buy some games, and in untiy they are slow but in gnome shell they are more fast.
[03:13] <tomreyn> ATI: you mean radeon.modeset=1 right
[03:13] <tomreyn> ATI: not being able to SSH in is strange... anyway, do a ctrl-alt-delete, then hold down shift when it boots
[03:13] <ATI> use set gfxpayload=vga=nofb before linux command instead text is deprecated
[03:13] <ATI> error unrecognized number
[03:13] <ATI> you need to load the kernel first
[03:13] <Septima> fsvieira: then i'd stop using unity
[03:14] <tomreyn> ATI: holding down shift will bring up the grub menu, where you can then edit out the problematic lines so you can boot up fine again.
[03:14] <ATI> sorry that is.  text is deprecated.  use set gfxpayload=vga=nofb before linux command instead. then the error stuff
[03:14] <ATI> oh ok
[03:14] <fsvieira> Septima, yeah thats what I am going to do, but I really start liking unity... but yeah I think I should stop
[03:15] <tomreyn> ATI: where is this message from, and where do we use "text"?
[03:15] <ATI> that's when I try to run ubuntu under grub
[03:15] <ATI> that's the error that comes up
[03:15] <ATI> and then it returns back to the grub menu
[03:15] <Septima> fsvieira: it'll improve with some more development time on it
[03:16] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to have unity do windows-style alt+tab where it doesn't group applications and just shows all windows?
[03:17] <tomreyn> ATI: maybe "nofb" is an alias for "text". anyway, the easiest option now is probably just to remove all the extra options and boot it up then
[03:17] <fsvieira> Septima, what I was asking is if I can do something... maybe I am doing something wrong
[03:17] <tomreyn> ATI: i'm afraid i will need to wrap it up pretty soon, it's kind of late here, or early rather.
[03:17] <ATI> oh.. I tried the vga=normal instead.. and it loads.. but I still get the same problem as before... where the vesa drivers are loading up
[03:18] <ATI> tomreyn: that's okay.. thanks a lot for your help
[03:18] <tomreyn> ATI: another option you have is to try updated kernel + video drivers, i.e. xorg-edgers.
[03:18] <Septima> fsvieira: i haven't heard of anything to improve unity in that aspect. i personally just went the xfce route instead, when i experienced the 'show nothing but my wallpaper' bug between unity and amd/ati cards
[03:19] <ATI> tomreyn: ok.. I will look into that
[03:19] <ZNaught> hello, could someone help me with nvidia driver install?
[03:19] <tomreyn> ATI: but getting back from that to where you are now can be annoying. so ... just saying.
[03:20] <ATI> tomreyn:  I am going to do a fresh install of xubuntu first and then try to troubleshoot from there..
[03:20] <ZNaught> after installing the NVIDIA drivers, the desktop does not load after login
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: i assume this won't actually fix it, but sure, give it a try.
[03:22] <Ziber> I've updated my /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding file, to allow my server to be an IPv6 router. How do I make it take effect?
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: the other way around might be better, though
[03:22] <tomreyn> ATI: since when you have xorg-edgers and it works worse than now, downgrading is annoying, but if you want to reinstall anyways then: no loss
[03:23] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/
[03:24] <ATI> how do I add that repository?
[03:26] <tomreyn> ATI: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-video-ati && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <fsvieira> Septima, ok tx
[03:27] <ZNaught> can anyone help with nvidia driver install?
[03:27] <tomreyn> ATI:  also do this in the end: sudo apt-get install mesa
[03:28] <tomreyn> ATI: and run "COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l mesa" and make sure it reports something with "sarvatt" on the version column
[03:29] <tomreyn> only then did the upgraded packages get installed properly
[03:29] <tomreyn> ATI: xorg-edgers also has an updated fglrx driver which you can also try if the open source one doesn't work.
[03:29] <tomreyn> package fglrx-installer
[03:30] <ATI> tomreyn: alright give me a second to do all of that..
[03:30] <tomreyn> ATI: i'll bbiab, then gone
[03:31] <Septima> ZNaught: did you uninstall the restricted modules
[03:31] <ATI> ok.. it can' find the package mesa
[03:32] <ZNaught> Septima: I did not, couldnt find any tutorials that said to do anything other than install from a repository
[03:32] <ATI> tomreyn: sorry about that.. right it says unable to locate package mesa
[03:32] <Septima> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=668c17af7112b1fd88a5fbe57e4f1411&t=72490
[03:32] <Alexa22> Is ubuntu a good choice to put on my netbook 1g Ram 200g hdd
[03:32] <Septima> ZNaught: for removing the restricted modules
[03:33] <ZNaught> Septima, will this require me to uninstall the old drivers and reinstall?
[03:34] <Septima> ZNaught: i'd uninstall them, and make sure everything is cleaned up, then install the nvidia drivers that you downloaded from nvidia's site
[03:34] <Garheade> Alexa22: It should work just fine on a netbook.
[03:34] <ZNaught> how would I do that Septima? Heck, I dont even know how to run a .run file. I am trying linux for first time
[03:35] <Septima> ZNaught: in a console use the 'cd' command to change to the directory where they were downloaded.. for instance: cd ~/Downloads
[03:35] <Septima> ZNaught: then use: chmod +x driverfilename.run
[03:36] <Alexa22> I am doing ubuntu 11.04 on my netbook
[03:36] <Alexa22> just need to figure out how to make boot from usb
[03:36] <ZNaught> ok thanks, but how do I uninstall?
[03:36] <Septima> ZNaught: then it's just a matter of running them... sudo sh ./driverfilename.run
[03:36] <Alexa22> hey is Java a good coding language to know for programming linux apps?
[03:37] <ZNaught> Septima, what about uninstalling?
[03:37] <Septima> ZNaught: well for the restricted modules it speaks about, you'd do something like: sudo apt-get --purge remove restrictedmodules
[03:38] <Septima> ZNaught: for the files it specifies, i'd delete them in the terminal.. using the rm command
[03:38] <Septima> ZNaught: it also says to purge and remove nvidia-glx
[03:38] <mark___> hello
[03:39] <mark___> can someone recommend a good vnc/screensharing solution for ubuntu? i seem to remember a newish solution coming out a fwe months ago. any ideas?
[03:39] <ZNaught> Septima, but I already have the drivers installed, how can I uninstall them?
[03:40] <Ziber> Anyone familiar with radvd, is there anything else I have to do except put my prefixes in the config file and reload it in order for my server to start advertising IPv6 addresses on my LAN?
[03:40] <Septima> ZNaught: looks like you need to do: sudo apt-get install build-essential pkg-config xserver-xorg-dev
[03:41] <Septima> ZNaught: and additionally install the linux headers for your kernel version.. you can get your version by typing uname -a
[03:41] <Septima> ZNaught: if you get all that set up there, i'd try just running the .run file
[03:42] <tomreyn> ATI: hmm, maybe the PPA didn't install properly then. got any error messages while setting it up (using the long line of commands i posted)?
[03:42] <ZNaught> Septima, how do I install the headers? Sorry
[03:42] <Septima> ZNaught: sudo apt-get install
[03:42] <MrWibbles> hey guys
[03:42] <tomreyn> ATI: this line: <tomreyn> ATI: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xorg xserver-xorg-video-ati && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:42] <ZNaught> Septima, just that line?
[03:43] <MrWibbles> i'm having issues with permissions.. is there anyway to apply  user:whatever:r-x to all the directories contained in /a/b/c
[03:43] <MrWibbles> but not their subdirectories
[03:43] <Septima> ZNaught: if you type like: sudo apt-get install linux-header, then hit tab a few times, i'll list what's available.. like i said, you need to get the ones to match your kernel version, which you can find out by typing uname -a
[03:43] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: Yes, but first why do you want to do this?
[03:43] <MrWibbles> so that an application can access its files
[03:44] <MrWibbles> it need r-x on every directory to the application directory
[03:44] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: What application? What files?
[03:44] <MrWibbles> each application has it's own system user
[03:44] <ZNaught> Septima, ok to recap: Uninstall the NVidia drivers by installing the linux headers, then remove the restricted modules and files, then run the .run file?
[03:44] <MrWibbles> the applications files.. different depending on what language the application is writtain in
[03:45] <Septima> ZNaught: yes
[03:45] <MrWibbles> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8916056/acl-along-a-directory-path << shit
[03:45] <tomreyn> ATI: packages available in this repository: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=quantal    - you also want the linux update to 3.7 and newest linux-firmware
[03:45] <ZNaught> ok thanks. I will give it a shot
[03:45] <Ziber> anyone with radvd experience might be able to help me get my server to start advertising addresses?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: Normally such directories are created automatically, and with the correct permissions. The fact that you're asking this question makes me wonder if there is something else wrong which needs to be fixed rather than worked around.
[03:46] <tomreyn> ATI: the 'mesa' package may be virtual only and thus not be listed in dpkg -l output. but "apt-cache search mesa" should find it.
[03:46] <ATI> tomreyn: is there anyway I can just download the packages manually?
[03:46] <MrWibbles> jordan_u:  ok.. application doesn't exist... other applications do  /srv/dd/application_name gets created.. r-x permissions need to be added to /srv and /srv/dd
[03:47] <MrWibbles> the user only gets created when the application is created
[03:47] <tomreyn> ATI: click on the links on the page i just sent you, but using the PPA does work, and you should use it if by all means possible to be able to properly revolce dependencies.
[03:47] <MrWibbles> one option would be to add all the applications to a group and then give the group permissions
[03:47] <ATI> basically the error is this W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[03:47] <ATI> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:47] <ATI> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/mesa9/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[03:47] <MrWibbles> but i thought it would be more obvious if it just listed out all the applications specifically
[03:48] <tomreyn> ATI:  how did this mesa9 get there?
[03:48] <ATI> I might have tried putting a mesa9 repository in there...
[03:48] <tomreyn> ATI: why?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: I still don't understand your situation, but "chown user:group /path/to/directories/*/" should change the user and group of all directories within the directory "/path/to/directories/". Try with simply "echo /path/to/directories/*/" first to confirm that that glob gets you the results you want.
[03:49] <ATI> tomreyn: that was before.. I came on here to get assitance.
[03:49] <ATI> I also get this error Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main Sources
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:49] <ATI> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main amd64 Packages
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:49] <ATI> Err http://ppa.launchpad.net quantal/main i386 Packages
[03:49] <FloodBot1> ATI: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:49] <ATI>   404  Not Found
[03:50] <tomreyn> ATI: i see, well you can remove those lines. and don't paste here, use the pastebin
[03:50] <MrWibbles> Jordan: has to use ACL
[03:50] <ATI> oh ... sorry.
[03:50] <ATI> how do I remove those repositories?
[03:50] <tomreyn> ATI: i think you had a typo on the apt-add-repository command.
[03:51] <MrWibbles> Jordan: the stackoverload question pretty much says you can't do it
[03:51] <MrWibbles> so i have to apply r-x to each individual directory
[03:52] <Jordan_U> MrWibbles: That glob should allow you to use whatever command you want with all of the directories within another directory. I have no idea what stack overload question you're referencing. For more information on globs see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Patterns .
[03:52] <tomreyn> ATI repository definitions added by apt-add-repository are stored at /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - identify the one which has "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net ..." (i.e. blank space behind the .net) and delete the file. then run ap-add-repository again
[03:52] <ATI> tomreyn: I entered "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa".  it looks like it's working
[03:52] <Success> hey guys I left for a while and everything seems to be working now, thanks for the help!
[03:53] <tomreyn> ATI: okay, then it should work indeed. maybe the broken line is one from an earlier attempt then
[03:53] <tomreyn> ATI: apt-get update && apt-cache policy    # gives you a list of the currently defined repositories
[03:54] <tomreyn> ATI: good luck, and good night, at some point. i'll likely be around again the other day if you wish to continue.
[03:54] <jk_> hey, i m new to this channel
[03:54] <ATI> alright thanks a lot!
[03:54] <tomreyn> hi + bye jk
[03:54] <tomreyn> yw ATI
[03:55] <lenochka_> здесь русские естьб
[03:55] <lenochka_> ???
[03:55] <rxnngut>  Mientras Pueda Escribir, Yo Soy El ReY que Sabe Meter Clones Jua Jua Todos Estupidos :D
[03:55] <brzglvz>  Mientras Pueda Escribir, Yo Soy El ReY que Sabe Meter Clones Jua Jua Todos Estupidos :D
[03:55] <tomreyn> !ru lenochka_
[03:55] <Septima> !ru | lenochka_
[03:55] <lenochka_> спасибо
[03:55] <tomreyn> !ops rxnngut , brzglvz
[03:55] <brzglvz>  FlooD MortaL: A Joderse Todos Mientras Este Yo Jua Jua
[03:55] <rxnngut>  FlooD MortaL: A Joderse Todos Mientras Este Yo Jua Jua
[03:55] <Septima> o.O
[04:01] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup, yet have no clue where to start.  Google has just lead to chain smoking and crying in the corner
[04:04] <ghosty> hello
[04:04] <asher^> hi all. is there a way i can change the mirror that apt-get is trying to get packages from? the mirror that is trying to use is missing packages
[04:05] <xangua>  asher^: software center, edit, sources
[04:06] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup, yet have no clue where to start.  Google has just lead to chain smoking and crying in the corner
[04:07] <jk_> what date is today?
[04:07] <asher^> xangua thanks!
[04:07] <ghostts> is there a way to lock my wireless driver? so it cant be updated or messed with at all?
[04:08] <asher^> is it unusual for mirrors to be missing packages btw? i was on the australian one
[04:09] <jk_> how to make my ubuntu work with wireless
[04:09] <confused> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could assist me.  I have a vps that I am setting up to be a web server via xmapp that is running ubuntu 12.04 64bit.  I am wanting to set it up to use xmapp's version of apache instead of the preinstalled version at startup,I have configured xmapp to run at startup, but have no clue how to disable auto start of the apache2 server that came preinstalled
[04:09] <xangua> !repeat | confused
[04:10] <somsip> asher^: sometimes they fall behind
[04:10] <confused> My apologies for the repeat, figured I'd update it with a bit more info
[04:13] <jonesn420> hi. could someone help me figure out how to make lxpanels temperature addon display my temp in F and not C
[04:16] <jonesn420> hi. could someone help me figure out how to make lxpanels temperature addon display my temp in F and not C
[04:18] <Gool> hi
[04:19] <pkh> finding it tough to put together a google query for this... is it posible to 'cd' into a folder that's been mounted over without umounting the other? (e.g. / is part1, /home is part2, /home on part1 still contains crap, want to delete.)
[04:20] <zoite_> pkh, i dont believe so
[04:21] <pkh> k, will shut it down, pullt he drive and mount is elsewhere, thanks
[04:23] <somsip> pkh: no - the files on part1 are effectively hidden and unaccessible by the mount of part2
[04:24] <pkh> cheers. just thought there might be some weird way to access that would have saved me pulling the drive -- go no livecd lying around...
[04:25] <somsip> pkh: I had the same thing with a /boot which confused me greatly. Nothing I found indiciated there was a way round it, but boot to live CD wasn't too onerous
[04:26] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm having a problem where I can ping localhost and DNS servers, but can't browse to websites
[04:26] <bluesnow> I also can't use apt-get or other internet programs
[04:27] <bluesnow> I can ping 127.0.0.1 and DNS servers, but none of my other internet stuff works.
[04:27] <erncic> confused: 'sudo update-rc.d apache2 remove' will stop apache2 from starting
[04:27] <bluesnow> Can anyone help?
[04:27] <jonesn420> bluesnow, see if simple browser settings are auto detect or no proxy or what
[04:27] <jonesn420> that can sometimes affect
[04:28] <bluesnow> jonesn240: My browser is no proxy. However, my apt get and other programs that use networking are also not working.
[04:28] <jonesn420> right...
[04:28] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Any idea what's going on?
[04:28] <jonesn420> router settings?
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: I connected to a VPN yesterday, and apparently the VPN is known for messing with routing tables / internet configs
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Yeah, I'd think so, but I already reset my routing table.
[04:29] <bluesnow> Maybe I didn't do it correctly?
[04:29] <bluesnow> I'm not sure if I ran the right command.
[04:29] <jonesn420> possibly i cant see. i know a bit of routing but not everything
[04:29] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Do you know how I could reset my routing table properly?
[04:29] <jonesn420> if u did just setup it once i would just try one more time
[04:30] <jonesn420> one sec gotta piss
[04:31] <jonesn420> did u even restart the network after changing it
[04:31] <jonesn420> still gotta piss brb just answer that for now
[04:31] <bluesnow> jonesn240: What do you mean by restarting the network?
[04:32] <jonesn420> service network restart
[04:33] <bluesnow> jonesn240: that returns 'network: unrecognized service'
[04:33] <jonesn420> sorry just thought u knew /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:33] <jonesn420> try that
[04:34] <bluesnow> jonesn240: That returns "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces"
[04:34] <bluesnow> Below that it says: Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[04:35] <jonesn420> i havent setup a small server in about 5years just trying to remember the commands... dont even remember if running sudo in front helps with more or not
[04:35] <bluesnow> jonesn240: I did run sudo in front of that
[04:35] <jonesn420> k
[04:37] <jonesn420> run sudo /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart
[04:37] <jonesn420> then rerun /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:38] <ZNaught> Septima, no luck, it booted back in with a reduced resolution (as I would have expected), but again desktop doesnt load
[04:39] <jonesn420> any change BluesKaj
[04:40] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do you delete mail messages on ubuntu?
[04:40] <jonesn420> lol i mean bluesnow
[04:40] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Nope. It's strange that I can ping DNS servers if they messed with my routing table.
[04:41] <jonesn420> thats what i am tryin to figure out i started searchin a bit cause network issues bugged me bad back in day and still cant find nothin yet
[04:46] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how do you delete mail messages on ubuntu?
[04:46] <jonesn420> u here bluesnow
[04:46] <bluesnow> jonesn420: yes
[04:48] <jonesn420> post a very detailed report of your problem on ubuntuforums and in a few hours or tonight i will take a good look at it. i will research a bit for you. i got a friend who is in IT that i talk to daily too and it could be simple since the issue is explained quite simple
[04:48] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks
[04:48] <erncic> bluesnow, can you telnet into a web server?
[04:48] <jonesn420> include all of your network information
[04:48] <jonesn420> do u have an ubuntuforums account
[04:48] <jonesn420> bluesnow?
[04:49] <bluesnow> jonesn420: No, but I can make one.
[04:49] <bluesnow> ernic: Not sure, I haven't tried.
[04:49] <bluesnow> I just don't understand why I can ping DNS servers but not connect to websites, or use any programs with networking
[04:49] <jonesn420> ok i will look for your name on there. just do a detailed network info report
[04:49] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks.
[04:49] <erncic> bluesnow: telnet google.com 80
[04:49] <jonesn420> it could be simple but like i said havent messed with this stuff in 4 or 5 years
[04:50] <bluesnow> telnet google.com 80 returns 'telnet: could not resolve google.com/80: Name or service not known.'
[04:50] <jonesn420> yeah bluesnow u could be in good hands with erncic  but if not i will look for your name or a similar name and recent post on ubuntuforums. i will find it if u post. gotta go
[04:50] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay. Thanks for all the help so far anyway.
[04:50] <erncic> should be a space between com and 80
[04:51] <jonesn420> no problem just returnin a favor i had to ask someone a simple problem about setting up a temperature module lol
[04:51] <jonesn420> never messed with it
[04:51] <jonesn420> but i know a FAIR bit ammount of networking.
[04:51] <bluesnow> erncic: I did put a space between com and 80, but it still returns could not resolve google.com/80
[04:51] <jonesn420> see you on the forums maybe
[04:52] <bluesnow> jonesn420: Okay, thanks.
[04:52] <jonesn420> yeah ull just get the best exposure there on ubuntuforums.com
[04:52] <jonesn420> later
[04:53] <erncic> bluesnow: you can ping, but not resolve?
[04:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Yes. Pinging 4.2.2.5 or 8.8.8.8 (google's DNS server) works fine.
[04:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Apparently, the VPN I connected to yesterday messes with the routing table (and maybe other network stuff?), but I've tried resetting everything.
[04:53] <bluesnow> Still no networking though..
[04:55] <erncic> bluesnow: what does route get 8.8.8.8 give you?
[04:56] <Noskcaj> erncic, isn't that google's dns?
[04:56] <erncic> yes, just wanting to know what route it would take to get there… due to a possible vpn twist.
[04:57] <drecute> Hi, I'm trying to install Adobe AIR SDK 2.6 on oneiric but can't find libgtk-x11-2.0
[04:57] <bluesnow> ernic: Now when I try to telnet google.com 80 it just hangs.
[04:57] <bluesnow> I can still ping DNS servers though.
[04:58] <erncic> bluesnow: that is good…. give it GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 followed by an empty line
[04:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back. I need to close the internet on this computer while I test.
[04:59] <szx> why does Software Updater always show changelogs for me?
[04:59] <erncic> bluesnow: you should get html back
[04:59] <szx> I have eto press q to continue updates
[05:00] <pinguine> i'm using gnome fallback mode, in system settings, brightness and lock, "turn off when inactive for:" only allows max of 1 hour. How do I increase this to a larger time?
[05:02] <bluesnow> erncic: GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 also hangs.
[05:02] <erncic> bluesnow: you gave it an empty line after the above?
[05:03] <bluesnow> erncic: How do I give it an empty line?
[05:03] <erncic> bluesnow: hit enter twice
[05:03] <bluesnow> erncic: Hitting enter the first time runs the command though?
[05:03] <erncic> no, it is waiting for the empty line.
[05:04] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back.
[05:04] <levi> Can someone help me I am kinda new to ubuntu and I am trying to install drivers for my Nvidia GeForce GT 430 and need help finding the right drivers
[05:05] <somsip> levi: just install nvidia-current
[05:06] <levi> ok thanks ill give it a try
[05:06] <bluesnow> erncic:  It's still hanging.
[05:07] <erncic> bluesnow: lets go more basic. does 'dig @8.8.8.8 google.com' give you a good lookup?
[05:08] <ouyes> HOW to stop the screen saving when you are playing a movie?
[05:09] <doctorly> Is there any way to rollback before an upate?
[05:09] <doctorly> update*
[05:10] <bluesnow> erncic: It's still hanging.
[05:10] <somsip> doctorly: before an update? What are you wanting to do?
[05:11] <erncic> bluesnow: sorry. that was not supposed to go into the telnet session. It is just a command by itself.
[05:11] <doctorly> somsip: everytime I update my system I lose my wireless
[05:12] <somsip> doctorly: you want for your wireless drivers not to be updated?
[05:12] <doctorly> yeah
[05:12] <somsip> !pinning | doctorly
[05:12] <bluesnow> erncic: It's still hanging
[05:12] <somsip> doctorly: though you may have to experiment to find out exactly what packages you need to pin. If it's just the drivers, it's going to be quite easy
[05:12] <doctorly> somsip: this isnt the system
[05:13] <somsip> doctorly: that sentence makes no sensde
[05:13] <somsip> *sense
[05:13] <doctorly> somsip: how do I find the packages.
[05:13] <somsip> doctorly: what wifi card do you use?
[05:13] <doctorly> give me one sec
[05:13] <erncic> bluesnow: it is hanging? It should time out after 10 secs or so, not completely hang
[05:14] <doctorly> somsip: im opening the info now, it might take a little bit because it is a netbook
[05:15] <bluesnow> erncic: I'll try again.
[05:16] <doctorly> somsip: It looks like its a: Broadcom corporation: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY
[05:19] <somsip> doctorly: I know nothing about Broadcom wifi so you may need to research this more. command 'dpkg --get-selections | grep {packagename}' will tell you if you have a package installed. Packages that might be installed for BCM4312 include some here, but you may need to look for more http://askubuntu.com/questions/33855/how-do-i-get-a-broadcom-bcm4312-wireless-card-to-work
[05:24] <smacktalk> what's the best rdt ap for ubuntu?
[05:24] <bluesnow> erncic: After a minute or so, it says 'Cant connect to HTTP:80 (Bad hostname)
[05:25] <root> hoi
[05:25] <MacLaddy> Wow, there are a lot of people here.
[05:25] <smacktalk> rdp remote desktop
[05:25] <MacLaddy> Anyone willing to offer some advice on HDD Partition for install? I have a couple of questions.
[05:25] <bluesnow> erncic: After that, it says 'LWP:Protocol::http::Socket: Bad hostname 'HTTP' at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/protocol/http.pm
[05:25] <somsip> smacktalk: client or server?
[05:25] <somsip> !ask | MacLaddy
[05:25] <erncic> bluesnow: hmm. that makes no sense. It is a straight dns lookup.
[05:26] <smacktalk> client
[05:26] <somsip> smacktalk: I have used remmina. it worked ok
[05:26] <bluesnow> erncic: Any idea what the second part means?
[05:27] <bluesnow> Says "LWP: Protocol::http::Socket: Bad hostname 'HTTP' at /usr/share/perl5/LWP/protocol/http.pm'
[05:27] <MacLaddy> I have Windows Vista on a 1TB HDD. I just purchased a second 1TB HDD. I would like to Install Ubuntu. Should I park it next to Vista on the same HDD, or on the second HDD?
[05:27] <erncic> bluesnow: no, I don't know how perl got involved at all.
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: Hmm :( Whatever VPN I connected to yesterday must have really messed with my networking.
[05:28] <erncic> bluesnow: I got to tell you, I am at a loss now with that showing up.
[05:28] <somsip> MacLaddy: if your Vista partition fills the drive, maybe easier to put ubuntu on 1TB. Though it's nothing but preference and how much fiddling about you need to do to set it up how you want it
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: This is strange because other people in my office have connected to the same VPN without this much trouble.
[05:28] <smacktalk> somsip I don't like remina...doesn't work that great
[05:28] <bluesnow> erncic: They said the VPN messed with their routing tables, but it was fine after disconnecting and restarting.
[05:28] <somsip> smacktalk: ok
[05:29] <bluesnow> I seem to have tried everything though.
[05:29] <erncic> bluesnow: you can do a 'route flush' to clear the routing tables, but that does not take into account a dig failure like that.
[05:30] <bluesnow> erncic: route flush returns flushing 'inet' routing table not supported.
[05:30] <MacLaddy> Thank you, somsip. Second question. I would like to make a small partition next on the same HDD as Ubuntu just for playing with other versions. Triple boot. If I do this, can Ubuntu and the second Linux OS share programs, or must they each have their own?
[05:31] <bluesnow> erncic: It took about a minute before the GET /index.html HTTP/1.1 returned 'Can't connect to HTTP:80 (bad hostname)'
[05:31] <erncic> bluesnow: what does just 'route' return…. it should be your default gateway unless you are running something more complex on this box.
[05:31] <somsip> MacLaddy: separate programs. they can share some data (media) but you're probably asking if you try to share program data (config files, etc). File syatem layouts can vary from distro to distro and different package versions too
[05:31] <somsip> *asking too much
[05:32] <bluesnow> erncic: It returns Kernel IP Routing Table, and routing table headers below that. The table is completely empty.
[05:32] <MacLaddy> Thanks somsip.
[05:32] <somsip> MacLaddy: np
[05:32] <doctorly> is it possible to rollback my kernel to the previous kernel??
[05:33] <erncic> bluesnow: no default route at all?
[05:33] <bluesnow> erncic: No, I don't see any.
[05:33] <bluesnow> Just Kernel IP Routing Table, routing table headers below that, and nothing else.
[05:33] <bluesnow> The headers are like 'Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface'
[05:34] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, are you using a  dynamic or static ip?
[05:34] <bluesnow> erncic: Dynamic
[05:34] <somsip> doctorly: temporarily or permanent?
[05:35] <bluesnow> erncic: The routers at my home/office assign my laptop IP addresses, I think.
[05:35] <doctorly> somsip: from what I have found, it looks like my problem is with the newest kernel and the drivers
[05:35] <doctorly> somsip: so I guess permenent
[05:37] <somsip> doctorly: what version of ubuntu?
[05:37] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, 'sudo route add default via x.x.x.x' , x.x.x.x being whatever your default gateway should be.
[05:37] <doctorly> somsip: 12.10
[05:38] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back while I try that.
[05:39] <Petaz> win8 is a trojan for the feds
[05:39] <somsip> doctorly: sorry - I'm finding nothing obvious that might help you. You might have to look around or try later
[05:40] <doctorly> somsip: its alright, I will keep researching
[05:42] <ouyes> do you know where is the deb package, when you install some applications via ubuntu software center?
[05:42] <somsip> doctorly: it may be as simple as uninstalling the current kernel, grabbing the .deb for the old one, and sudo dpkg -i kernel*.deb to get the initrd links updated
[05:43] <somsip> ouyes: /var/cache/apt/archives maybe?
[05:44] <joekoocc1_> Can anyone help me? My computer connected to web is still using cable. there is no problem running on window using wireless, but not on ubuntu. Why? and how to resolve this? Thanks.
[05:46] <aeon-ltd> joekoocc1_: you might need drivers
[05:46] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, that added the route to my kernel IP routing table, but I still can't connect to anything
[05:46] <bluesnow> erncic: Is there another routing table somewhere else in ubuntu that might have been messed with?
[05:47] <erncic> bluesnow: not that I am aware of.
[05:48] <bluesnow> erncic: I wonder if I need to add other routes to the routing table..
[05:48] <erncic> bluesnow: firewall?
[05:48] <bluesnow> erncic: Don't have a firewall
[05:49] <bluesnow> erncic: By default gateway, you meant the gateway for my internet connection, right?
[05:49] <erncic> bluesnow: yes. 'iptables -L -n | less'
[05:50] <bluesnow> erncic: That gives chain INPUT (policy accept) chain forward policy accept chain output policy accept END
[05:51] <bluesnow> But the target, proc opt source, and destination are all empty
[05:51] <bluesnow> They're empty for INPUT, FORWARD, and OUTPUT
[05:51] <erncic> bluesnow: accepts on all is ok, does not look like a problem there.
[05:52] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, but the target, proc opt source, and destination columns are all empty.
[05:52] <bluesnow> That might be a problem?
[05:53] <erncic> bluesnow: the policy assigned on all is accept, meaning everything is accepted- an empty firewall that accepts all packets.
[05:53] <bluesnow> erncic: Ah, I see.
[05:53] <erncic> bluesnow: scratching my head .....
[05:54] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah :(
[05:54] <bluesnow> erncic: I just heard that the VPN's security messes with routing tables.
[05:54] <bluesnow> But we seem to have dealt with that
[05:55] <erncic> bluesnow: yeah we did. the table seems good, no firewall rule problems, pinging works, no dns, no web. dig still fails right?
[05:57] <bluesnow> erncic: dig still fails. I can ping DNS servers, like 4.2.2.5 or 8.8.8.8
[05:57] <bluesnow> erncic: well, I was able to ping DNS servers before we fixed the routing table.
[05:58] <erncic> bluesnow: cannot ping now?
[05:58] <bluesnow> erncic: I can still ping DNS servers.
[05:59] <erncic> bluesnow: ok, I thought we had moved backwards.
[05:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Thankfully not.
[05:59] <erncic> bluesnow: exactly.
[06:00] <bluesnow> erncic: Wait, my routing table now shows in the first column
[06:00] <bluesnow> Destination: default Gateway: my laptop name Genmask: 0.0.0.0 Flags: UG ..
[06:00] <bluesnow> Not sure why it's showing 'my laptop name' under Gateway
[06:01] <erncic> bluesnow: your laptop name would be wrong…
[06:01] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, I think so.
[06:02] <bluesnow> erncic: sudo route add default via x.x.x.x returns Usage: ...
[06:02] <bluesnow> So I guess that didn't work?
[06:02] <bluesnow> It should return something else on success, right?
[06:04] <erncic> bluesnow: yes, we want route add default gw x.x.x.x
[06:04] <bluesnow> Just tried, 'sudo ip route add default via x.x.x.x', and that returned RTNETLINK answers: file exists
[06:04] <bluesnow> erncic: That command returns 'SIOCADDRT: File exists'
[06:06] <erncic> bluesnow: you have a default route. 'route del default' and then route add default gw x.x.x.x
[06:06] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back while I try the internet.
[06:07] <stinktoad> hello...i have a small question
[06:08] <stinktoad> my wired connection does not read anything..it says device not managed
[06:08] <stinktoad> how can I get it to show that I am connected
[06:10] <stinktoad> or how can I get it to recognize my ethernet connection
[06:10] <stinktoad> anyone?
[06:10] <bluesnow> erncic: Doing sudo route add default gw x.x.x.x is adding my computer's name under 'Gateway' in the 'default' row
[06:11] <bluesnow> I'm getting x.x.x.x from Edit connections -> wireless -> my connection -> IPv4 Settings -> Gateway
[06:11] <bluesnow> So I'm not sure why it adds my computer's name under gateway..
[06:12] <erncic> bluesnow: it should not be your laptop name, it should be the gateway address or the gateway's name…
[06:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, but it keeps adding my laptop's name.
[06:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Maybe the VPN I connected to did that as a hack?
[06:13] <bluesnow> :(
[06:13] <erncic> bluesnow: if it is your laptop name, all external requests should loop back to yourself and not go anywhere…. kind of like you are having, but your pings would die too, I would expect.
[06:14] <bluesnow> ernic: Hmm, not sure. My pings are working..
[06:15] <felipe_Brz> i'm running 11.04 and I would like to stop the window switcher (alt+tab) from grouping similar windows (like many terminal instances) under one group... anyone know how to do that?
[06:15] <Panda000> Hey hab nen kleines Problem. Bin noch relativ neu in Linux und jetzt hat sich bei meinem einen Acc der Bildschirm "aufgehangen" nach neustart / abmelden öffnet sich immer die alte Sitzung und ich kann die Programme weder schließen noch irgendwo schreiben ... hab dann im Terminal nen neuen acc erstellt und da läuft auch alles einwandfrei ..
[06:15] <erncic> Bluesnow: I am thinking the default gateway is wrong, but I don't have any idea what it should be.
[06:19] <bluesnow> erncic: It should be my router's IP address, right?
[06:19] <erncic> !de
[06:19] <erncic> bluesnow: yes.
[06:19] <bluesnow> Which seems to be what I'm trying to do, except it keeps adding my computer's name
[06:20] <anand> woaaaahhh
[06:22] <stinktoad> my wired connection does not read anything..it says device not managed
[06:22] <anand> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
[06:22] <stinktoad> how can I get it to recognize my ethernet connection
[06:23] <erncic> bluesnow: lets try and grab a new lease from dns and see if we can get a good gateway from dhcp… should have started here, but …. sudo dhclient -r
[06:23] <erncic> dns=dhcp
[06:24] <stinktoad> erncic, could you help me with this when you get a chance?
[06:24] <bluesnow> erncic: What do I do after sudo dhclient -r? The command doesn't return anything.
[06:24] <erncic> stinktoad: dynamic or static ip?
[06:24] <stinktoad> I would like to set it up as static
[06:24] <erncic> bluesnow: that should have released your current ip lease and grabbed a new one. check your routes
[06:25] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, be right back.
[06:25] <stinktoad> i run ifcong in terminal
[06:25] <stinktoad> and get my eth0
[06:25] <erncic> stinktoad: I do not think the interface will be "managed" if it is static.
[06:25] <stinktoad> oh..
[06:26] <stinktoad> well I guess as long as I have connection it works
[06:27] <stinktoad> so I shouldnt worry about it I take it
[06:27] <stinktoad> but I am not runnin static right now
[06:27] <voxcroix> hi.
[06:28] <bluesnow> erncic: Okay, I did that. My routing table shows one row, with
[06:28] <bluesnow> Destination: 192.188.188.0, Gateway: *, Genmask: 255.255.255.0, Flags: U, Metric: 0, Ref: 0, Use: 0, Iface: eth0
[06:28] <stinktoad> well thanks erncic ..
[06:28] <bluesnow> That's the only row in my routing table.
[06:29] <erncic> bluesnow: what works and what does not...
[06:29] <voxcroix> hi.
[06:29] <erncic> stinktoad: sorry, the gui end is not my strength.
[06:29] <bluesnow> erncic: Be right back, I'll test again.
[06:32] <bluesnow> erncic: Same situation still. ping works, pinging DNS works, no browser, no telnet, no GET /index.html
[06:33] <bluesnow> erncic: I still don't have a default route to my gateway though.
[06:33] <erncic> bluesnow: at a loss.
[06:34] <bluesnow> erncic: The lack of a default route to my gateway would cause problems, right?
[06:36] <ouyes> Is it possible to disable the screen saver when you are playing a movie???
[06:36] <erncic> bluesnow: I would have thought so before tonight, but the pinging of 8.8.8.8 tells us that somehow, those packets are being routed out of your network and are getting back in. how and via what route ??? does a 'traceroute 8.8.8.8' a) work and b) give up your gateway ip...
[06:36] <bluesnow> erncic: Let me try that.
[06:41] <bluesnow> erncic: Unfortunately I don't have traceroute installed..
[06:41] <bluesnow> erncic: Ping 8.8.8.8 is definitely working.
[06:41] <erncic> bluesnow: the computer you are on now… same network?
[06:42] <bluesnow> erncic: well ping is working from both computers.
[06:42] <bluesnow> And they're going to the same gateway (same network)
[06:43] <erncic> bluesnow: was wondering what it was showing for the gateway.
[06:43] <erncic> bluesnow: got it
[06:43] <smilejayark> ...
[06:43] <bluesnow> erncic: I just ran traceroute 8.8.8.8 on the computer I'm on. How do I find the gateway it's going through?
[06:44] <jonesn420> hi
[06:44] <jonesn420> using lubuntu, mouse pointer dissapeared and in middle of video conversion which takes an hour. anyone know if there is a way to get it back instead of restarting after conversion done?
[06:44] <smilejayark> hi, there??
[06:44] <jonesn420> it happened after went idle
[06:45] <erncic> bluesnow: first hop is the default
[06:45] <jonesn420> bluesnow, did u find a fix
[06:45] <bluesnow> erncic Next to '1', it says 192.188.188.1
[06:45] <erncic> bluesnow: (or it should be)
[06:45] <bluesnow> 192.188.188.1 is the IP I was trying to add as the gateway for default, but it kept adding my laptop's name
[06:46] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Nope, still trying to fix it.
[06:46] <jonesn420> ok i got a prob right now myself lol mouse dissapeared in middle of working stuff
[06:46] <jonesn420> did u post on the forums yet bluesnow
[06:47] <erncic> bluesnow: hmmm. head scratcher for sure.
[06:47] <bluesnow> jonesn240: Not yet.
[06:47] <lcabreza> question: anybody has a way to use RhEL's plytmouth or boot screen ? instead of the default on ubuntu ?
[06:47] <erncic> bluesnow: post it to the forum….. that is your best bet.
[06:48] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah. Any idea why adding 192.188.188.1 as the default gw would result in my laptop's name?
[06:48] <bluesnow> That doesn't seem to make any sense at all.
[06:49] <erncic> bluesnow: the only thing I can think of is a) a dns entry for 192.188.188.1 with your laptop's name, b) an ip conflict with the default gateway (not likely) …
[06:50] <erncic> bluesnow: an /etc/hosts entry.
[06:50] <bluesnow> let me check that
[06:50] <jim_> hi, any way to get youtube vids to play in firefox? fresh 12.04 install, and pretty new to linux
[06:51] <bluesnow> erncic: Looks like the VPN I connected to modified that file.
[06:51] <zombifier> jim_ : Did you install Flash? It's part of the restricted-extras
[06:51] <erncic> bluesnow:… meaning ….
[06:51] <bluesnow> erncic: I have, BEGIN hosts added by Network Connect 157.166.164.222 ework-atl.turner.com
[06:51] <bluesnow> well, I'm not sure what else is supposed to be in that file
[06:51] <bluesnow> I've never opened that file before
[06:51] <Phaba> will changing /proc/sys/kernal/randomize_va_space from 1 to 0 make me more vulnerable to explits?
[06:51] <jim_> not directly, but checked the 3rd party box when I installed - which version should I install?
[06:51] <Phaba> exploits*
[06:52] <Phaba> jim_,  chrome has a built in flash player i think
[06:53] <jim_> it's for an old neighbor who uses firefox, don't want to add chrome to the confusion
[06:53] <Phaba> jim_, ithink you can download it through the software center
[06:54] <OerHeks> jim_, install ubuntu restricted extras for flash, openjdk and codecs
[06:54] <erncic> bluesnow: it usually has an entry for 127.0.0.1 localhost and if static ip, a second line with the static ip to the hostname map, and then some ipv6 stuff below that. It can contain other stuff if needed, but usually the first two lines are what I was interested in.
[06:54] <jim_> are those restricted extras in a single package?
[06:54] <OerHeks> !restricted
[06:54] <OerHeks> jim_, yes, one metapackage to get them all
[06:55] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah it has 127.0.0.1 localhost, and 127.0.0.1 my_computer_name
[06:55] <erncic> bluesnow: those are expected and not a problem.
[06:55] <jim_> not great at ubuntu yet - how would I get that metapackage, please?
[06:55] <bluesnow> my /etc/resolv.conf also has search turner.com and nameserver x.x.x.x and nameserver x.x.x.x
[06:55] <bluesnow> Not sure if the 'search turner.com' should be there
[06:56] <OerHeks> jim_, open softwarecentre, and typ " restricted "
[06:56] <jim_> ah, found it - tyty
[06:57] <erncic> bluesnow: that file is not your problem. the dig command we used 'dig @8.8.8.8 google.com', the @8.8.8.8 forced the nameserver, ignoring /etc/resolv.conf.
[06:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Right. The VPN seems to have edited quite a few of my networking related files though.
[06:59] <bluesnow> erncic: Wait, you didn't tell me to run dig earlier.
[06:59] <bluesnow> Let me try that.
[07:01] <jim_> was not prompted for a system restart after installing restricted extras, but still no youtube vids - could a restart help?
[07:01] <bluesnow> erncic: dig @8.8.8.8 google.com does work
[07:01] <OerHeks> jim_, yes, restart could help, at least restart your browser
[07:01] <bluesnow> erncic: It returns (1 server found) and an Answer Section with google.com IN A x.x.x.x
[07:01] <bluesnow> So dig is working.
[07:01] <bluesnow> I'm not sure what that means though.
[07:02] <jim_> had already restarted browser, so system next - let's hope I don't end up back here. thanks again
[07:02] <erncic> bluesnow: good to know. means dns through a forced dns server is working. does 'dig google.com' fail?
[07:02] <cache_za> for flash i just installed flashplugin-installer
[07:03] <bluesnow> erncic: Let me try.
[07:04] <xpistos> Hello all.
[07:04] <bluesnow> erncic: Yeah, dig google.com fails. It times out.
[07:05] <bluesnow> erncic: I think they edited my etc/resolv.conf file, which might be the problem (?)
[07:05] <xpistos> Would a bad ethernet cable cause firefox and chrome to be unable to connect to anywebsite but still be able to ping the same website?
[07:05] <erncic> bluesnow: now, those /etc/resolv.conf entries become important… you got it.
[07:05] <ikonia> xpistos: no
[07:05] <bluesnow> erncic: /etc/resolv.conf should be DNS server addresses, right?
[07:05] <Phaba> will changing /proc/sys/kernal/randomize_va_space from 1 to 0 make me more vulnerable to exploits?
[07:06] <xpistos> Ok, I am lost then. My wife's computer is hard connected to the router the same as my home server but her computer goes through days where it will not connect
[07:06] <Phaba> xpistos, sounds more like a dns issue
[07:06] <ikonia> doesn't sound like dns
[07:06] <erncic> bluesnow: technically for a dhcp assigned address that file should say "don't edit this file", but it has been edited.
[07:06] <ikonia> as the same website can be pinged
[07:07] <Phaba> ikonia, depends if he's pinging the ip of the website
[07:07] <ikonia> are your browsers set wrongly to use a proxy
[07:07] <ikonia> Phaba: he said website, he didn't say ip
[07:07] <erncic> bluesnow: so lets just fix the dns extras to something we know works …. 8.8.8.8 etc
[07:07] <xpistos> uh I don't think so but I will check
[07:07] <ikonia> I don't suggest randomly changing your dns servers
[07:08] <erncic> bluesnow: comment out the name servers added by the vpn first.
[07:08] <ikonia> and /etc/resolv.conf is not where you need to set the dns servers, with the ubuntu dnsmasq setup
[07:08] <xpistos> okay. here box is dhcp
[07:08] <xpistos> with an reserved address on the router
[07:08] <ikonia> xpistos: dynampic/static ip doesn't matter
[07:08] <erncic> bluesnow: and try the dig command without adding anything.
[07:08] <xpistos> i am checking dns vs ip now
[07:09] <ikonia> xpistos: so when you "ping" the website are you pinging the url or ip
[07:09] <xpistos> in her browswer if I put the router ip it won't come up
[07:09] <bluesnow> erncic: okay, trying now.
[07:09] <ikonia> xpistos: answer the question
[07:09] <xpistos> I was checking
[07:09] <xpistos> I put the url and it pings
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: answer the question
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: what url are you pinging
[07:10] <xpistos> right now google.com
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: what ip does it resolve to
[07:10] <ikonia> xpistos: (you should see it in theping output)
[07:10] <xpistos> 74.125.140.138
[07:11] <ikonia> xpistos: ok, so that loks valid
[07:11] <ikonia> "looks"
[07:12] <ikonia> xpistos: what IP address are you putting in the browser to try to get to the router
[07:12] <xpistos> I have set to 11.10.19.1
[07:12] <xpistos> and I can ssh into her computer from my laptop
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: It works!
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Had to add DNS servers to my /etc/resolv.conf file
[07:13] <bluesnow> Whew
[07:13] <ikonia> xpistos: can you please show me the output of netstat -rn
[07:13] <ikonia> xpistos: use a pastebin
[07:13] <xpistos> sure. one sec
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Wow, I feel like I learned a lot. And that's a really scary VPN :(
[07:13] <asarch> An off-topic question: anyone in Germany?
[07:13] <bluesnow> erncic: Thanks for all the help.
[07:14] <ikonia> asarch: if it's offtopic, don't post it
[07:14] <erncic> bluesnow: you are very welcome…. I am glad we learned along the way.
[07:14] <asarch> I know and I really sorry for that
[07:15] <xpistos> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/9X3KiiLZ
[07:15] <asarch> I just need to find someone in that country to mp him
[07:15] <ikonia> asarch: and yet you are still talking about it
[07:15] <jim_> hi again - still no luck playing youtube vids after installing restricted package
[07:15] <ikonia> xpistos: ok, that looks good, so it really suggests the browsers are trying to use a proxy
[07:15] <xpistos> Checking now
[07:16] <ikonia> (a proxy which doesn't exist)
[07:17] <jim_> any other ideas to get flash videos to work?
[07:17] <xpistos> ok for some reason chrome had use system proxy settings so I put it back to no proxy and restarted FF but now change
[07:18] <xpistos> I will look in the network to make sure there isn't a proxy somehere
[07:19] <xpistos> okay under network proxy the method is set to none
[07:21] <xpistos> and if it matters I am using opendns
[07:21] <xpistos> still nothing
[07:23] <asarch> Thank you :-)
[07:25] <xpistos> We both have a user on the computer which don't use mine but they are both doing the same
[07:28] <xpistos> Nope no proxy either
[07:32] <xpistos> ikonia: Basically firefox says the connection timed out if I let it sit
[07:34] <xpistos1> I tried testing the router for giggles. no change
[07:36] <Unifx> stupid question, have you tried going to tools then check the connections tab and make sure that it is on obtain ip automaticly
[07:37] <xpistos1> I have no idea here. The wireless connection from my laptop is fine. My homeserver has no problems and it is also hard connected
[07:38] <xpistos1> Unifx: Yes. I use address reservations on the router.
[07:39] <xpistos1> if I couldn't ping anything or if I couldn't ssh into her box I would say bad port, bad cable what have you but I can do those things but something is not allowing it to connect to the router
[07:39] <xpistos1> ???
[07:40] <xpistos1> and the router sees it in attached devices
[07:42] <Unifx> "into her box" is all i saw
[07:42] <xpistos1> Hell even my plex media manager works fine. There has to be something going on with the browser or somethign
[07:43] <Unifx> so you have checked the firefox proxy right
[07:43] <xpistos1> if I couldn't ping anything or if I couldn't ssh into her box I would say bad port, bad cable what have you but I can do those things but something is not allowing it to connect to the router
[07:43] <xpistos1> Unifx: yes, it is set to none
[07:43] <Unifx> and you can set up a sock proxy at all>
[07:44] <xpistos1> I am not sure how to do that so I generally don't try
[07:44] <xpistos1> I have used ssh tunnel before but that is only out of necessity and she doesn't need it on her box
[07:45] <Unifx> yeah you just need like putty on urs and to set firefox;s sock proxy but only reason i sugest that is to test firefox itself
[07:45] <A[D]minS> Good Morning Everybody.
[07:45] <aeon-ltd> guten morgen
[07:45] <Unifx> good evening
[07:45] <A[D]minS> I've plugged in my laptop 6GB Ram, however i'm running with 32-bit OS
[07:46] <A[D]minS> How i can force the system to utilize the full capacity of memory.
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> !pae
[07:46] <A[D]minS> aeon-ltd: thx ;)
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> you're welcome
[07:47] <A[D]minS> Linux egabi-Solutions 3.5.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 13 17:49:53 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:47] <A[D]minS> The generic default kernel already has PAE enabled.
[07:47] <xpistos1> Unifx: I can do that to check
[07:48] <xpistos1> is putty in the repos
[07:48] <Unifx> if not sudo apt-get install putty
[07:48] <xpistos1> I must have already installed t
[07:49] <xpistos1> so I guess I should putty to the server and use that as an ssh tunnel and then set firefox to use that as the proxy?
[07:49] <Unifx> yeah just open putty set the ip and port then the tunnel port
[07:50] <Unifx> then set firefox proxy as a sock ip of 127.0.0.1:what ever port u set
[07:51] <xpistos1> destination should be home?
[07:52] <Unifx> yeah
[07:52] <Unifx> bounces off putty
[07:52] <A[D]minS> I love ubuntu :)
[07:53] <A[D]minS> have a good day/night everybody
[07:53] <xpistos1> ok the tunnel is up now let me set FF
[07:54] <Unifx> make sure you only set the sock port
[07:54] <xpistos1> well that is different. I don't think I have it set right cause right away it say proxy server is refrusion connections
[07:54] <Unifx> and ip
[07:54] <xpistos1> right
[07:55] <Unifx> um yeah that is wierd
[07:55] <xpistos1> okay so in ff i have socks host as home and port as same port in putty 4567
[07:55] <Unifx> yeah
[07:55] <xpistos1> let me recheck putty
[07:55] <Unifx> then save
[07:56] <xpistos1> in putty ssh tunnel
[07:56] <xpistos1> I set the source port as 4567
[07:57] <xpistos1> and destination as the server's ip but it says I have to save it as host.name:port so I add the port to the ip so its says 11.10.19.100:4567
[07:58] <Unifx> heads up you shouldnt post that lol
[07:59] <Unifx> ok so when setting up the tunel
[07:59] <Unifx> dont use a servers ip
[07:59] <Unifx> use a port only and change it to dynamic
[07:59] <Unifx> then when you click add
[07:59] <Unifx> oit should look like
[07:59] <Unifx> D4567
[08:00] <FaeLLe> just wondering if anyone has a easy guide to get openswan running on Amazon EC2 using IPSec PSK
[08:00] <FaeLLe> the guides i found on google were giving me issues and i have no idea how to troubleshoot
[08:00] <FaeLLe> :/
[08:00] <xpistos1> it is internal
[08:02] <xpistos1> Well that worked
[08:03] <Unifx> cool
[08:03] <Unifx> so pretty much
[08:03] <Unifx> everything works accept your own fire fox with out a proxy
[08:03] <Unifx> so your pings work>
[08:03] <xpistos1> yes pings worked
[08:03] <Unifx> so your http is up
[08:04] <xpistos1> so now the next is how do I get it to work without the ssh tunnel
[08:04] <Unifx> and have you tried other browsers
[08:04] <agunghario> exit
[08:04] <xpistos1> not uet
[08:05] <xpistos1> she only wants to use firefox. I tell her to use chrome but she was gettig the same results
[08:05] <Unifx> yeah i only use ff
[08:05] <xpistos1> google works
[08:05] <xpistos1> I got tired of ff and the rapid release breaking stuff constantly
[08:05] <xpistos1> or chrome works now to
[08:05] <fedor> hi there, I am interested in knowing, why when i am copying files to my android-smartphone (via usb-cable) i am getting something that is corrupted, thus i am left without files needed, when I really need them.  Is it connected with the file system, or is it just that i am unlucky?
[08:06] <xpistos1> Unifx: LOL. Wierd. I killed the putty session
[08:06] <xpistos1> firefox does not work, but chrome is still working
[08:06] <DavidScherer> when I do `ssh user@host -p PORT` I keep getting the message "connection closed by IP". This is only happening on my Desktop (Ubuntu 12 LTS) but not on my Android phone, both using the same Internet connection. On the target VM, the connection is going through fine and there are no firewall issues, but it shows as though I am closing the connection.
[08:06] <xpistos1> I know chrome uses the network default
[08:06] <DavidScherer> Any ideas on how to fix this or what is even wrong?
[08:06] <mal10c> anyone know how to change the default desktop to fluxbox in ubuntu 12.10 via terminal?
[08:07] <xpistos1> turn off the proxy in FF and now it is working without putty session up too???
[08:08] <Unifx> :)
[08:08] <Unifx> so putty is closed
[08:08] <Unifx> and all working
[08:08] <xpistos1> yes
[08:08] <xpistos1> this is crazy
[08:08] <Unifx> yeah thought so
[08:08] <Unifx> some times it has a few bigs
[08:08] <DavidScherer> Oh, and it only seems to happen for one specific user. If I try with another_user@host I get a login prompt.
[08:09] <solitary1> woops
[08:09] <solitary1> dcd
[08:09] <solitary1> yeah sometimes theres a bug where you have to set a port then remove it
[08:13] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:14] <computer> need to get my videio card to work
[08:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:15] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[08:16] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[08:16] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:17] <xpistos1> uni4dfx: well it is still doing messing up with the ssh tunnel
[08:17] <DavidScherer> Okay, doing ssh -vvv User@Host -p Port shows that right before the connection closes I see it debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/david/.ssh/id_rsa ::: debug3: send_pubkey_test ::: debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
[08:18] <DavidScherer> Then the connection closes.
[08:18] <xpistos1> uni4dfx: or without it rather
[08:22] <DavidScherer> :(
[08:22] <noregret> will deb packages for 10.04 work correctly on 12.04 ?
[08:22] <DavidScherer> noregret: Probably depends on the package?
[08:23] <noregret> DavidScherer: im looking for sphinx, http://sphinxsearch.com/downloads/release/
[08:24] <noregret> how can I know the versino of a package from apt-cache search ?
[08:26] <MrBar> hi
[08:27] <MrBar> how to see why some pkg installed?
[08:28] <noregret> MrBar: apt-cache pkgnames
[08:30] <MrBar> noregret : it only pkg listing
[08:32] <noregret> MrBar: rephrase your question
[08:34] <MrBar> i need to know for what reason (why) apt install some pkg, for example i need listing [pkg some-name: installed manualy, pkg foo: installed by depend of bar]
[08:37] <zantekk> MrBar: sudo apt-get install apt-rdepends
[08:37] <zantekk> after this: ex. apt-rdepeds foobar
[08:37] <zantekk> *apt-rdepends
[08:37] <MrBar> apt-rdepeds -r   generate long list
[08:38] <MrBar> how to find what pkg select it
[08:41] <MrBar> heh  in debian i get right answer: need a aptitude :)
[08:43] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:43] <computer> for 12.10
[08:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:51] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[08:51] <computer> for 12.10
[08:57] <rabbi1> is there any light weight app, which can show my recent mails(gmail etc...) and posts (fb, twitter, linkedin etc) in a single app? like pidgin for chat....
[08:57] <estrangedSoul> at the start screen
[08:58] <estrangedSoul> i lost my ubuntu pass
[08:58] <estrangedSoul> how can i retrieve it
[08:58] <zantekk> recovery console
[08:58] <zantekk> reboot and choose it in grub
[09:00] <estrangedSoul> I just have wubi
[09:00] <estrangedSoul> where is grub and how do i get to it
[09:01] <zantekk> when you boot, you can choose either starting windows or ubuntu
[09:01] <computer> where is the device manager in ubuntu?
[09:01] <computer> for 12.10
[09:01] <zantekk> and there should also be someting like Ubuntu 12.10 - Recovery Console
[09:02] <zantekk> computer: lsusb xD
[09:02] <zantekk> computer: not in System Tools -> Device Manager?
[09:03] <computer> where do i first click to get there?
[09:03] <rabbi1> will gwibber be a good choice ?
[09:03] <computer> not use to this unity desktop
[09:04] <computer> i click dash oard and dont see it
[09:04] <zantekk> just start typing device
[09:04] <zantekk> and get rid of unity
[09:04] <zantekk> it's crap
[09:05] <computer> i type device manager and nothing shows
[09:05] <zantekk> sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[09:05] <zantekk> reboot and choose Gnome Classic at your login window
[09:06] <computer> will gnome work with compiz?
[09:06] <zantekk> yes of couse
[09:06] <zantekk> *course
[09:06] <computer> k
[09:06] <computer> :)
[09:06] <computer> thnx
[09:06] <rabbi1> I never liked Unity
[09:07] <zantekk> I hate it^^ it's for touch devices..
[09:07] <computer> seems like they killed ubuntu with this unity crap
[09:08] <rabbi1> tried to be too smart. but spoiled in my opinion.. I also think it can be made better
[09:08] <zantekk> kust use xfce with avant-window-navigator -> perfect
[09:08] <zantekk> *just
[09:08] <computer> should at least come with the opstion to use gnome by default
[09:09] <computer> xfce dont work well with compiz
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> how can i retrieve it
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> my password to ubuntu
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> ?
[09:09] <zantekk> can't see any problems
[09:09] <computer> !password
[09:09] <rabbi1> computer: you can install gnome and make it default..
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> gnome?
[09:09] <estrangedSoul> what about user name?
[09:09] <computer> boot in recovery mode
[09:10] <estrangedSoul> how?
[09:10] <zantekk> estrangedSoul: I wrote it to you some lines ago
[09:10] <computer> !user
[09:11] <subhadeep> my left side bar is not coming up in Cairo unity panel mode...can anybody help me
[09:11] <zantekk> don't use unity
[09:11] <Name141-> if the keyboard is detected wrong in install, is that an easy fix or a reinstall easier fix fix ?
[09:14] <ct529> hi! After the last kernel update my boot time has increased of approx 10s.
[09:14] <ct529> Any changes that could justify it?
[09:15] <zantekk> ct529: go back to the older one?
[09:15] <ct529> zantekk: sorry?
[09:16] <zantekk> ct529: if the newer kernel seems to be slower on your system, just switch back
[09:16] <ct529> zantekk: I would rather udnerstand what is wrong
[09:17] <zantekk> can find anything in the logfiles?
[09:18] <ct529> everything seems to be taking a little bit more, from dmesg
[09:20] <computer> i still cant see device manager anywhere?! what the hell?!
[09:20] <zantekk> just try booting the older kernel and compare them, if the newer is really that slower, go back to the older one
[09:21] <zantekk> computer: for what? what do you want to do?
[09:21] <computer> video card
[09:21] <computer> driver
[09:21] <zantekk> nvidia?
[09:21] <computer> yeah
[09:22] <zantekk> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:22] <zantekk> reboot, done
[09:22] <niktto> what is best / advised tool to set up ubuntu / debian repository? Still reprepro?
[09:22] <computer> does ubuntu not come with device manager anymore?
[09:22] <zantekk> dunno, I'm not using 12.10 atm
[09:22] <ct529> zantekk: that is what I have already done of course, but it is only slower at boot
[09:23] <zantekk> computer: but what for? terminal is much faster^^
[09:24] <computer> yeah if i knew all these commands, maybe
[09:25] <zantekk> learning by doing ;)
[09:25] <computer> thnx though
[09:25] <zantekk> worked?
[09:25] <ct529> computer: does muon not show you the nvidia driver?
[09:26] <computer> its downloading
[09:26] <zantekk> perfect
[09:26] <computer> muon?
[09:27] <computer> nvidia-current is downloading
[09:27] <computer> 66%
[09:27] <ct529> computer: or synaptica
[09:27] <ct529> which package manager are you using?
[09:29] <computer> seems only "ubuntu software center" and not synaptica
[09:29] <computer> that also sucks
[09:29] <micjan02> i have a serial logger that i connect to via socat. one end (serial logger) is tcp, the other is pty. how can i send sysrq ("^a f" in minicom, "^a b" in screen) over such setup?
[09:30] <ct529> computer: I think you can install synaptica from the software centre, and that would be able to show you all the drivers
[09:30] <computer> yeap
[09:30] <computer> brb
[09:39] <Guest96298> does anybody know where does cups gets fonts to be embedded from?
[09:40] <rabbi1> installed gwibber for first time, but it doesn't show any comment at all... what could be the issue?
[09:41] <computer> k now its asking me to run nvidia-xconfig as root? how do i do that?
[09:43] <eddmabs> quit
[09:43] <computer> k now its asking me to run nvidia-xconfig as root? how do i do that?
[09:44] <computer> sudo -s ?
[09:44] <joey8> computer→ to run programs as root prefix your command phrase with sudo
[09:45] <joey8> ie sudo plink -test
[09:45] <computer> i tried but i get the same error msg
[09:45] <david_> Can anyone help me with an SSH issue?
[09:45] <computer> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[09:46] <computer> i tried sudo nvidia-xconfig but keep getting the same msg
[09:47] <david_> computer: You have installed the driver, no
[09:47] <david_> ?
[09:47] <computer> i guess
[09:48] <david_> Er....
[09:48] <computer> yeah i did
[09:50] <Jester_> Morning everyone!
[09:50] <david_> Maybe ask nvidia?
[09:50] <david_> Morning.
[09:51] <david_> My SSH client is (after sending a pub key packet) closing the connection, or perhaps the server is closing the connection.
[09:52] <david_> The SSH server logs say that I'm closing the connection.
[09:52] <david_> It only happens on my desktop, not on my phone.
[09:52] <david_> Both use the same internet connection.
[09:53] <david_> Ideas? I've been searching forever.
[09:54] <joey8> david_→ is the ssh server on the same machine as you are ssh-logging in from
[09:54] <david_> No, it's our production machine.
[09:55] <sons_of_s> hi all
[09:55] <sons_of_s> i'm spanish
[09:55] <david_> joey8: I recently set up RSA keys for Bitbucket, would that have an effect?
[09:55] <sons_of_s> algun español aqui?
[09:55] <sons_of_s> [david_] you spanish?
[09:56] <sons_of_s> [david_] in server people spanish o no?
[09:56] <david_> sons_of_s: Hablo espanol muy paquito.
[09:56] <sons_of_s> [david_] yo soy nuevo en este server
[09:56] <david_> Forgive me for butchering a simple sentence in your language. :S
[09:56] <sons_of_s> LOL xDD i'm not understand
[09:57] <sons_of_s> tendre que aprender ingles por huevos....
[09:57] <david_> Yo tambien
[09:57] <sons_of_s> [david_] tu español xD
[09:58] <david_> Nein, abber mein Deutsch ist gut, oder  besser als mein Spansih.
[09:58] <sons_of_s> ostias
[09:58] <sons_of_s> [david_] you german?
[09:58] <sons_of_s> [david_] in spanish mucha fiesta, mucha beer xDDDD
[09:58] <Myrtti> !es | sons_of_s
[09:59] <david_> 3rd generation German American.
[09:59] <sons_of_s> [ubottu] okkk thanks
[09:59] <guang_> #j /os
[09:59] <sons_of_satan> [ubottu] tu eres español?
[10:00] <david_> Anyway...
[10:00] <john00102> asdasd
[10:00] <john00102> as
[10:00] <john00102> d
[10:00] <john00102> sad
[10:00] <john00102> as
[10:00] <john00102> das
[10:00] <FloodBot1> john00102: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:01] <Myrtti> sons_of_satan: it is a robot program, not human
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> LOL
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> okkk
[10:01] <cousteau> `sudo` is not safe for graphics applications and `gksudo` is.  Is `sudo -H` safe as well?
[10:01] <sons_of_satan> [Myrtti] thanks
[10:01] <david_> joey8: So no, different, remote server. Would a ssh -vvv help?
[10:02] <cousteau> for what I could understand, the problem with sudo is that it doesn't change $HOME to /root, thus messing the user config files
[10:02] <cousteau> however `sudo -H` exports HOME=/root
[10:02] <thermion> good to know...
[10:02] <david_> cousteau: What about just su to root until you're done? I mean, it's an extra step...but?
[10:03] <david_> cousteau: Ahhh, very good to know indeed. :)
[10:03] <cousteau> su root is safe as well?  (`sudo su` I guess)
[10:03] <Myrtti> not really
[10:03] <david_> I didn't say it was safe.
[10:04] <david_> I'm just under the impression when you su a user $home changes.
[10:04] <cousteau> I mean safe regarding $HOME
[10:04] <cousteau> as in "as safe as gksudo"
[10:04] <david_> I don't know what gksudo is, so I'm pleading the 5th here.
[10:04] <joekoocc1_> how to control the usb port as in the serial port & parallel port in ubuntu?
[10:04] <david_> magic.
[10:04] <david_> :P
[10:05] <mobhero> hi, how to install tomcat7 on ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
[10:05] <mobhero> pls help on this
[10:05] <david_> I wish magic could fix my SSH, I'd have phoned the neighborhood weirdo that does raindances.
[10:05] <Myrtti> cousteau, david_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo explains some good and bad options
[10:06] <cousteau> joekoocc1_, not sure what you mean, but when you plug an FTDI USB device, a /dev/ttyUSB* or /dev/ttyACM* device will appear
[10:06] <david_> mobhero: I think you should ask tomcat people, or browse the tomcat docs, or maybe check to see if Apt or Yum or whatever your fav PKG manager has it.
[10:06] <cousteau> my idea was to alias sudo to `sudo -H` by default.
[10:07] <guestLinx> which is he best tool for Linux to convert video file to  AVI DIVX ?
[10:07] <david_> cousteau: That may not be a good idea.
[10:07] <cousteau> I proposed that idea to brainstorm and it was blatantly rejected
[10:07] <david_> You usually only need sudo to do commands that require elevated permissions is certain areas.
[10:08] <cousteau> guestLinx, are you aware of the fuzziness of the word "best"?
[10:08] <guestLinx> cousteau: easiest and more efficient
[10:08] <david_> So if you're installing something as a User BOB, with sudo, instead of stuff going into BOB's home directory, it'll go to root.
[10:09] <cousteau> guestLinx,  some will suggest you ffmpeg, or winff, or mencoder, or avidemux, or another video editor
[10:09] <guestLinx> ok
[10:09] <cousteau> david_, shouldn't it?
[10:09] <david_> guestLinx: Your best option is to Google search, a bunch of different blog entries and stuff will pop up arguing the features and benefits of several in each post.
[10:09] <david_> The "Best" is the one that has everything you need.
[10:09] <cousteau> "easiest" is also a fuzzy word
[10:10] <david_> cousteau: Shouldn't what?
[10:10] <vitimiti> o/
[10:10] <cousteau> and it sometimes conflict with "most efficient"
[10:10] <cousteau> david_, put stuff on /root rather than ~user
[10:10] <david_> Depends.
[10:11] <cousteau> also, if it puts stuff on ~user it will do so with root as owner
[10:11] <cousteau> I'm not sure, but I think everything on ~user should belong to user
[10:11] <david_> If I'm writing an install script, good practice is to have the app you're installing be ran as a non-system, non-root user. The files should also be owned by the same user.
[10:12] <david_> For the most part, I only want the install script ran with SUDO so I can add files to places I normally might not be able to or to change permissions for something I'm setting up.
[10:13] <david_> I'd be writing this install script assuming $home points to the user's home folder I'm installing the program to run as, rather than the Root/system user.
[10:13] <cousteau> non-sudo for local install (e.g. ~/program/) and sudo for /usr/local/
[10:13] <cousteau> or /opt/
[10:13] <cousteau> david_, but if ran with sudo, the user that is doing the install is root
[10:13] <cousteau> casted by the user
[10:14] <david_> I think sudo not changing the $home variable by default is wholly intentional and to good purpose.
[10:14] <cousteau> you never see superman doing superman stuff dressed as clark kent
[10:14] <david_> cousteau: But the files are still OWNED by the user running the script.
[10:14] <david_> They're just doing it with superuser permissions.
[10:14] <cousteau> david_, if sudo writes something, its owner will be root
[10:15] <david_> And still relative to the user who's running the script's home directory.
[10:15] <thermion> how uses realtive paths in an installer??
[10:16] <thermion> *relative
[10:16] <cousteau> david_, actually the INSTALL script should not touch the user CONFIGURATION
[10:16] <david_> cousteau: And that can be changed by the script, but if it's placed in the wrong folder, ie a sub-dirctory of  /home/root/something and it should be in /home/bob/something you have other problems.
[10:16] <cousteau> so it should either go to ./ or to an install path
[10:16] <david_> Suffice it to say I merely think aliasing sudo to sudo -h by default is not a great idea.
[10:16] <cousteau> so to $PWD and not to $HOME
[10:16] <sadf> OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  AUTRALIA IS DOOMMMMMMMM    ----> http://i.imgur.com/Chm5B.jpg
[10:16] <cousteau> -H, not -h
[10:17] <david_> It might not be wrong, or bad, but it could cause some un-expected side-effects.
[10:17] <cousteau> I think it would avoid a bunch of sudo-related errors
[10:18] <cousteau> and all those "nooo! don't use sudo for graphical things, use gksudo!"
[10:18] <david_> Most of the "install" scripts I write are CLI php scripts used to take a fresh Clone from Git and move all the *.default files to their right places and all that and change directory permissions and stuff.
[10:19] <cousteau> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Graphical_sudo
[10:19] <cousteau> seems that the only problem with sudo vs gksudo is the $HOME thing
[10:20] <cousteau> david_, sudo installations should be system-wide and thus not touch a specific user's configuration
[10:20] <david_> Right, anyway, I didn't really want to argue, I'm just saying I can think of instances where that alias may not be a great idea.
[10:21] <david_> cousteau: Are you talking about an install done by a sudo install.sh ?
[10:21] <cousteau> we're not arguing! we're discussing.
[10:22] <david_> Just because something "should" be a certain way doesn't mean it always is.
[10:22] <cousteau> david_, I'm talking about whatever install script you were talking about
[10:22] <david_> Have you looked at browser compatibility lately? :P
[10:23] <david_> I apparently break that rule all the time with my "install" scripts.
[10:23] <david_> They're more like "get this setup like yesterday" scripts.
[10:24] <david_> I hate clicking the refresh button wondering "What now?"
[10:24] <david_> "Oh, I forgot to make templates_c writable. Oops."
[10:27] <david_> http://pastebin.com/47jgzaqu
[10:31] <e-v-o> How can I enable Unity 3D (at the moment it's 2D only) in Ubuntu 12.04 running on VirtulaBox?
[10:31] <david_> e-v-o: Is the option available on the login screen?
[10:32] <e-v-o> david_: It doesn't appear to be, options are Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D
[10:33] <david_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205137/unity-3d-doesnt-work-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-in-virtual-box-hosted-by-windows-7-64b
[10:33] <e-v-o> The host is a macbook pro btw
[10:34] <david_> https://www.google.com/search?&q=enable+unity+3d+ubuntu+12.04+virtualbox&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[10:37] <david_> e-v-o: Buying an MBP was your first mistake. :P But that is entirely another discussion altogether, however if you ever need a new one let me know. I have a laptop and some super glue laying around you could have.
[10:37] <david_> Scratch that, I just found the Gorilla Glue. Much more effective. :D
[10:39] <e-v-o> david_: lol I would've bought a Ubuntu supported laptop if it wasn't for the Adobe software that I need for work. Besides, no laptop hardware comes close to the mbp build.
[10:39] <BlackDalek> What is a fool-proof way of finding the location of a file on my system? I can never get the nautilus file search to find anything
[10:40] <BlackDalek> how can I find a file in the filesystem?
[10:41] <david_> e-v-o: Too bad it's glued in...so in <18 months, when hardware is twice as good, there's no possibility of an upgrade without another 1.5k. I like the Mac UI (to an extent) but the price tag and super glue is where I draw the line. The computer shop down the street can build me a Mac-ish specced laptop for less $$$ that I can upgrade.
[10:41] <e-v-o> david_: thanks for the links but they don't seem to be specific to my situation.
[10:41] <david_> BlackDalek: Is it a common config file? I use google. (Like for finding hosts-enabled)
[10:41] <BlackDalek> is there some command which will search the entire filesystem for the  file specified?
[10:42] <e-v-o> david_: that's not totally true, you can upgrade ram and hardisk, what else do you want on a laptop?
[10:42] <david_> Otherwise I'm sure there's a REALLY cool, and crazy, command you could use to do what you want.
[10:42] <BlackDalek> david_, no, it is a specific file belonging to a program which I want to copy from one computer to another.. but I do not know its location
[10:42] <david_> e-v-o: Really? I was under the impression that RAM and HDD in the MBP were glued in.
[10:42] <david_> Huh.
[10:42] <Linpassion> hi
[10:43] <BlackDalek> david_, I know the exact name of the file, I just can't find it
[10:43] <david_> My neighbor was groaning about it.
[10:43] <e-v-o> david_: nope, they never have. You do need to unscrew the bottom though :P
[10:43] <thermion> how about "find / -name [name_of_file]?
[10:43] <david_> BlackDalek: try find filename
[10:43] <tempin> hi! i want to give ubuntu for ARMv7 a try, where can I search for available software for this particular platform?
[10:43] <e-v-o> BlackDalek: look up the Linux "find" command.
[10:44] <e-v-o> oops too late
[10:44] <alimj> e-v-o: Did you install Virtual-Box extensions already? Did you enable 3D support in Virtual-Box video setting?
[10:44] <Linpassion> there ise same user to know ho to change the purple screen on ubuntu 12.02 LTS, without using plymouth^?
[10:44] <david_> e-v-o: http://macdailynews.com/2012/06/13/teardown-of-macbook-pro-with-retina-display-reveals-soldered-ram-glued-in-battery/
[10:44] <e-v-o> alimj, yes I did. That was the first thing I did.
[10:45] <david_> Linpassion: gnome-utils?
[10:45] <david_> It's in the USC.
[10:46] <tempin> is there an online version of apt-cache search "software" specific for available packages for ARM?
[10:46] <e-v-o> david_: wasn't aware of that! mine's the previous model. I certainly won't be upgrading if it is true.
[10:47] <Linpassion> i'll try david
[10:47] <david_> e-v-o: Pretty sure it is. My neighbor was groaning about it a while back, and so has a collegue that I used to work with complained that he should have saved 500 and bought a Best Buy laptop and super glue.
[10:48] <david_> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong with my SSH? I can paste the ssh -vvv again if need be.
[10:49] <noregret> what package has add-apt-repository ?
[10:49] <david_> noregret: ?
[10:49] <david_> noregret: I thought that was an apt utility?
[10:50] <BlackDalek> how long does the "find" command usually take to search a 70gb filesystem? been sitting there for 5 minutes now....
[10:50] <BlackDalek> Has it stalled?
[10:51] <david_> BlackDalek: Not really sure? Probably depends on whether or not there's indexing and stuff.
[10:52] <david_> Also depends on the how many files.
[10:52] <BlackDalek> david_, a whole bunch of permission denied errors are coming up - is there anyway I can force it to search those directories too?
[10:52] <david_> And if you're searching just the file name.
[10:52] <lemonsparrow> I have ssh command like this $ ssh -l user -p 22 a@b.com   how to add the proxy to this command ?
[10:52] <david_> BlackDalek: sudo find
[10:52] <david_> perhaps.
[10:53] <david_> lemonsparrow: I don't think ssh utility itself supports a proxy, or at least there's nothing in the docs.
[10:54] <david_> You can configure a base proxy to route all your traffic through from your computer, if you want.
[10:54] <david_> No sure how though.
[10:54] <david_> Or maybe there's a way to pipe to or from the ssh for a proxied connection.
[10:56] <lemonsparrow> david_: I am trying $ ssh -v -p 22 user@host.com and i get the error ssh: connect to host host.com port 22: Connection timed out
[10:57] <david_> lemonsparrow: No idea what -v does. I use ssh user@host.com -p 1234
[10:58] <david_> lemonsparrow: And since port 22 is the default, you don't need it.
[10:58] <lemonsparrow> david_: and where do you set the proxy ?
[10:58] <david_> Unless you're trying to SSH to a non-standard port.
[10:59] <david_> lemonsparrow: I don't think you can with ssh. You'd probably have to do it via the system or a pipe somehow or something. Or SSH into a VM then SSH from the VM to somewhere else.
[10:59] <lemonsparrow> david_: I still get port 22: Connection timed out
[11:00] <david_> Can you ping the IP you're trying to reach? Is it the right port?
[11:01] <david_> Is there really an SSHd server running on the target machine for you to connect to?
[11:01] <lemonsparrow> david_: I am trying to ssh into a public server
[11:01] <david_> Connecting from a proxy probably won't resolve you not being able to connect.
[11:01] <david_> But I don't know.
[11:02] <david_> Anyway, I need to go afk for a bit.
[11:04] <agsel> is there something like krusader with synchronization in gnome?
[11:04] <Guest91268> trying out steam and installed the latest Nvidia additional drivers and it dident work, how do i uinstall it from the terminal
[11:08] <jonesn420> sup
[11:08] <XATRIX> Hi guys, is there any repo where can i find a 3.7 kernel with pf-kernel patchset to install from ?
[11:09] <jonesn420> hurry you guys click this http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya got 1 minutes 45 seconds left
[11:09] <jonesn420> whats gonna happen
[11:09] <jonesn420> NOTHIN
[11:09] <FloodBot1> jonesn420: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:09] <jonesn420> oh nice FloodBot1 is set for 20 wpm lol
[11:09] <jonesn420> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya
[11:09] <Guest91268> lol
[11:10] <jonesn420> 40seconds
[11:10] <jonesn420> im just watchin this site to see what they implemented to say after these 20 more seconds
[11:12] <XATRIX> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/maya - Upstream write/read error :)))) Looks like IT started!! :))
[11:12] <jonesn420> nice it started countin up. they musta felt stupid
[11:12] <jonesn420> lol
[11:12] <nyuszika7h> lol
[11:12] <e-v-o> Does anyone know how to enable Unity 3D in Ubuntu 12.04 running on VirtulaBox on OSX host?
[11:12] <nyuszika7h> I get connect to upstream server timeout, jonesn420
[11:12] <nyuszika7h> had the write/read error before
[11:12] <e-v-o> I have installed the Guest additions btw.
[11:12] <jonesn420> refresh nyuszika7h
[11:13] <jonesn420> i got that too but it started countin up
[11:13] <XATRIX> Oh crap...I see alien ships over the Ukrainean sky.... O_O
[11:13] <jonesn420> OOOOOO
[11:13] <jonesn420> shit
[11:13] <jonesn420> hold on
[11:13] <XATRIX> Holy shit
[11:13] <FloodBot1> jonesn420: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <Ann-Mariya> my ubuntu 12.04 always connects to internet through a program gvfsd-http. How can I sotp this and save my bandwidth ???
[11:13] <jonesn420> this FloodBot1 is retarded
[11:14] <XATRIX> Oh my god...There're tons of the FreeBSD DVDs are falling from the ships on our heads...
[11:15] <jonesn420> wow i need some mail them too me cause i dont see them XATRIX
[11:15] <jonesn420> Cows are flyin i thought that was always a joke
[11:16] <XATRIX> jonesn420, i will ask some subscription for you , next time it will try to land nearby..
[11:16] <nyuszika7h> Error 503: Connection lost
[11:16] <Ann-Mariya> somebody plz tell me how to prevent the gvfsd-http from connecting to internet ???
[11:16] <jonesn420> oh i didnt think it was the aliens. nah dont let them know. u done been probed and forgot about it!
[11:17] <XATRIX> Oh, these aliens are hunting for people and microsoft laptops/desktops
[11:18] <jonesn420> awesome. they should aim for novell
[11:18] <jonesn420> lol
[11:18] <jonesn420> well wonder how long this world ends clock will count up now.
[11:19] <jonesn420> i say they have to add multiple digits to it
[11:19] <jonesn420> or they will notice they are retarded
[11:19] <jonesn420> even if the world ended it wouldnt be like it exploded KABOOM...it wont be bad stuff happenin over time
[11:19] <silvio_> it is the 2000 Bios Bug, its now on! Cause Bios was an Idea of Microsoft
[11:19]  * XATRIX somokes a bit lot...
[11:20]  * jonesn420 joins XATRIX from probably a continent or country away
[11:20]  * jonesn420 runs out already. he says "damn i only had a bug"
[11:20] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX:Hi
[11:21] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, helo
[11:21] <jonesn420> alright im done bullshittin
[11:21] <jonesn420> peace
[11:21] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX:how to prevent the gvfsd-http from connecting to internet ?
[11:23] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, iptables -I OUTPUT -p tcp --dport PORT_THAT_USES_gvfsd_http -j REJECT
[11:23] <Maccer> Where can I speak to ubuntu developers or package maintainers?
[11:23] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX: what is this dear ?
[11:23] <XATRIX> Maccer, it's a DDAY dude... what are you talking about :)
[11:23] <Maccer> XATRIX. :-(
[11:24] <jussi> Maccer: probably #ubuntu-devel - but be very polite, they are extremely busy
[11:24] <Maccer> jussi: Thank you.
[11:24] <cousteau> Ann-Mariya, 2012
[11:24] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, It's a firewall command to deny network access of gvfsd
[11:25] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX:iptables v1.4.12: invalid port/service `PORT_THAT_USES_gvfsd_http' specified
[11:25] <Ann-Mariya> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[11:25] <Ann-Mariya> This is what I got
[11:25] <Snurre86> I installed det aditional beta driver from nvidia and the pc diden't boot so i typed "sudo apt-get --pure remove nvidia-*" but i want to install another beta driver i know works. But it don't looks as if it is completely uinstalled
[11:26] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, ofcource... PORT_THAT... is a thing you have to change on the real value
[11:27] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, are you really using network shares through the internet ?
[11:28] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX: plz 4ward the actual command...u know ladies are not gud in computers
[11:29] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, I just use internet to browse and chat !!!
[11:30] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, ok, let's do it from the start. Why do you want to block it ? :)
[11:30] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, It slows down my internet
[11:31] <XATRIX> Can you give me the output of: sudo netstat -tup | grep gvfsd
[11:31] <xatr0z> XATRIX: i dont like your nick, my hilight goes nuts :P:P
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Ann-Mariya  please don't say 4ward and gud, better use the actual words
[11:31] <XATRIX> :)
[11:32] <XATRIX> MonkeyDust, don't buy computers for the ladies next time ;)
[11:33] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, terminal doesn't gave any o/p
[11:33] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, you have to do it from root account !
[11:33] <Ann-Mariya> k
[11:34] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, the same
[11:34] <XATRIX> Can you give me the output of: sudo netstat -tup
[11:35] <XATRIX> Any ESTABLISHED connections from gvfsd ?
[11:35] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, let me notify that this time my firewall shows that, gvfsd-http is not connected
[11:35] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, block it with your firewall - the simpliest way
[11:35] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, I am using firestarter
[11:36] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, no idea what is it :)
[11:36] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, well how can I block it ?
[11:38] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, Can you do it with your firewall ?
[11:38] <XATRIX> By the way , are you from India ?
[11:38] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, no option for that
[11:38] <XATRIX> Should be , any firewall must have this option to
[11:39] <ironhalik> When hibernating, swap partition has to be equal or larger then my RAM size?
[11:39] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX,k . u have been most helpful
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> ironhalik  better larger
[11:40] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, you can also try to find the executable with : locate gvfsd-http and remove it , if you don't use the network shares
[11:40] <ironhalik> MonkeyDust: can I hibernate with a swap file? I would need to repartition my ssd after latest upgrade
[11:40] <SkyRocknRoll> Hi
[11:40] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, what is this n/w share, i don't understand
[11:41] <SkyRocknRoll> There is a hot debate going on in my office now regarding which os ( ubuntu or debian ) should be used in our new server ?
[11:41] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, Ubuntu has some functionality to share files, or whatever media between people over internet... If you don't use it, you don't need gvfs
[11:41] <ironhalik> Wikimedia runs on ubuntu :)
[11:41] <SkyRocknRoll> any point to support for ubuntu  i will appreciate :)
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> ironhalik  i have not enough ewperience with hibernation, to know such things
[11:42] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, well i don't need it
[11:42] <fidel_> SkyRocknRoll: this channel is offering technical support - not propaganda
[11:42] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, remove it ;)
[11:42] <fidel_> ;)
[11:42] <ironhalik> MonkeyDust: Nevermind. I'll check the docs, I think there was something there about it.
[11:42] <sw> SkyRocknRoll It doesn't work like that, you use whatever is best for the organisation, depending on your requirements. This isn't a debate room, people here will tend to use Ubuntu, for obvious reasons.
[11:42] <Ann-Mariya> XATRIX, let me show the command
[11:43] <SkyRocknRoll> my opponent who is recommending debian says only this point " Debian is used by lot of guys"
[11:43] <ss_> hello! I've done terrible things :). I've been trying to the nvidia drivers working on ubuntu (I was trying to run a game and it was running very slowly and i assumed this was due to incorrect graphics drivers). I went to the update centre and went to software sources, additional drivers and chose an nvidia driver
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> SkyRocknRoll  wrong channel
[11:44] <sw> SkyRocknRoll You're not up against much then. Again, this is the wrong channel - try ##linux.
[11:44]  * SkyRocknRoll going to linux channel
[11:44] <ss_> i restarted X (logged out)... nothing seemed to change visually but now the game segfaulted! ok. So I tried playing around with the nvidia-settings commands, specifically i ran nvidia-settings which started with a dialogue box suggesting i run nvidia-xconfig
[11:45] <ss_> i proceeded to run nvidia-xconfig, on an initial x restart, black screen, no output whatsoever, after that i restarted the machine and now im stuck in 640x480 :D
[11:45] <XATRIX> Ann-Mariya, dpkg -S gvfsd-http - show me the output
[11:45] <ss_> halp?
[11:47] <ss_> brb, gonna try reverting to the original x.org drivers
[11:47] <ss_> is there a way to... completely reinstall X? I have a feeling this is all down to some duff xorg settings
[11:47] <ss_> is there a way to revert/reinstall xorg?
[11:51] <Froward> kill
[11:54] <gaussblurinc> hi!
[11:55] <gaussblurinc> i want to write an application, that would use Oauth on JS for linux system family. How should i share this with others?
[11:55] <Nick-Black-92829> Hi!
[11:56] <gaussblurinc> So, i mean, that this application would use it's own appKey. is it normal? it will be open as source js-code.
[12:00] <bdi_> Hello, i have inserted my SD card from my camera into my computer running ubuntu 12.10 desktop. However when i do that i get: Unable to mount EOS_DIGITAL: Error mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/bdi/EOS_DIGITAL: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid" "/dev/mmcblk0p1" "/media/bdi/EOS_DIGITAL"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: unknown filesystem type 'exfat'
[12:00] <bdi_> Is there any way to mount this?
[12:00] <seudo_tw>  /j #python.tw
[12:01] <POVaddct> bdi_: afaik there is no exfat support in linux yet
[12:01] <tomreyn> bdi_: exfat is indeed not a known file system type
[12:02] <bdi_> ahh got it fixed
[12:02] <bdi_> hmm maybe not
[12:04] <tomreyn> bdi_: there's a fuse module for exfat, thoughj
[12:04] <POVaddct> bdi_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[12:04] <bdi_> yeah i got it working
[12:05] <tomreyn> http://superuser.com/questions/436368/how-to-open-exfat-ssd-in-ubuntu-12-04
[12:05] <POVaddct> patented, proprietary sh*t
[12:06] <gaussblurinc> offtopic: maybe somebody know a skype-dev channel?
[12:06] <tomreyn> i think there is #microsoft
[12:06] <bdi_> but damn its slow
[12:07] <gaussblurinc> tomreyn: thanks, will search
[12:07] <casualX>  hi there! can someone give me a advice how to create a xorg.conf file for a livecd at system startup or a workaround for starting X without xorg.conf and nvidia drivers?
[12:07] <gaussblurinc> and how about security in Oauth and applicationKey? if it is an open source?
[12:07] <POVaddct> bdi_: complain to M$ for making exfat undocumented, proprietary and patented
[12:08] <bdi_> POVaddct, ohh its crappy M$ FS
[12:08] <Saxon> hello,every body
[12:08] <Touhou11> POVaddct: True, it took several years before NTFS was in a usable state from Linux
[12:08] <gaussblurinc> hello
[12:08] <bdi_> POVaddct, you cant expect anything else from M$ or Apple
[12:08] <tomreyn> casualX: your question sounds like you want to find out http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[12:08] <POVaddct> Touhou11: the same will happen with exfat. plus it is patented.
[12:09] <bdi_> POVaddct, i really like M$ more than i like Apple though...Apple is #1 disgusting
[12:10] <POVaddct> bdi_: hehe
[12:10] <casualX> thx tomreyn but nouveau seems not to work too...even the vesa driver seems not to work
[12:12] <Nick-Black-92829> Hello there 
[12:12] <casualX> tomreyn I creat my livecd from scratch for a study project so I need to find a way to create a xorg.conf when starting it up...I allready tried doing it by system service with X -configue and then copy to /etc/X11/ but it failed cause my service script could create any file
[12:17] <tomreyn> casualX: "it failed cause my service script could create any file" doesn't make much sense to me. why does the initskript fail due to being able to create files?
[12:18] <XATRIX> Any grub configurator for ubuntu ?
[12:18] <tomreyn> XATRIX: there is update-grub
[12:18] <XATRIX> grub2 is hard as hell, like C++ coding
[12:18] <Nick-Black-92829>  /who *cadena*
[12:19] <XATRIX> tomreyn, update-grub or update-grub2 ?
[12:19] <Touhou11> grub2 is fairly simple to understand, just read the manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[12:20] <tomreyn> XATRIX: $ ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[12:20] <tomreyn> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Okt 14 19:37 /usr/sbin/update-grub2 -> update-grub
[12:20] <XATRIX> right
[12:20] <XATRIX> tomreyn, i mean, i installed kernel binary
[12:20] <XATRIX> How can i configure grub menu
[12:21] <XATRIX> To manually setup the order of entries
[12:21] <tomreyn> XATRIX: you optionally edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[12:22] <casualX> tomreyn I thought maybee its not possible but I think its just my mistake. here is my scrip which runs well when I do it /etc/init.d/ after login from console but not from startup...youre my great saver today if you can help me fix it http://pastebin.com/FvGLBkj0
[12:24] <tomreyn> XATRIX: to manually change the order of entries and not have them overwritten automatically on next kernel update / removal you will need to adjust the names of files in /etc/grub.d/
[12:24] <elfer> -.o
[12:24] <tomreyn> XATRIX: it may be better to just set the # of the default entry in /etc/default/grub though
[12:25] <XATRIX> ok,, let's go another way
[12:25] <XATRIX> give me a sec
[12:25] <wilfredor> hi
[12:25] <proyecto_> Buen día
[12:25] <wilfredor> I'm looking for a free software solution for around 30,000 phones with different architectures, from call centers (pbx) to mobile phones
[12:26] <erncic> wilfredor: asterisk
[12:27] <tomreyn> casualX: did you create this based on some template? where is this script stored, how is it invoked on boot?
[12:27] <heideggermartin> Hello!
[12:28] <wilfredor> Asterisk is a virtual pbx but We have a fisical pbxs erncic
[12:28] <XATRIX> tomreyn, http://hastebin.com/rakusodanu.vhdl
[12:28] <XATRIX> That's what i currently have
[12:28] <elfer> haste?
[12:28] <XATRIX> I need to enable pf-kernel
[12:29] <tomreyn> wilfredor: your question is pretty surely out of the scope of this channel
[12:29] <tomreyn> !ot | wilfredor
[12:29] <heideggermartin> I am trying to get a server running on https:// and if I generate .ssh files for it then my client complains because the ssh key for that domain is different on ssh and https
[12:29] <elfer> no
[12:29] <elfer> someone answer his question =p
[12:29] <wilfredor> tomreyn: I forget, ubuntu is not gnu/linux
[12:30] <muelli> heideggermartin: can you provide a screeshot or an error message?
[12:30] <heideggermartin> uhm ... Error: SSL Error: DEPTH_ZERO_SELF_SIGNED_CERT
[12:30] <elfer> i have questions, but i wont ask until later...
[12:31] <casualX> tomreyin yes i did this by a general template...the script is stored in /etc/init.d/ by the way i dont use upstart I use openrc...after creation i runned rc-update add <script> name...I can see the output on the monitor but It not create the file /root/xorg.conf.new...after when I logged in I can successfully start it with /etc/init,d/<scriptname> start and then it does his job :)
[12:31] <elfer> need a cat nap soon
[12:31] <heideggermartin> well: I want to make sure that the https uses the same key as the ssh shell to avoid running into other errors so I wondered where the cert and key files for ssh are hosted by default on ubuntu
[12:32] <heideggermartin> (as you can see above its a rather non-saying error of my command line tool in running in node)
[12:33] <muelli> heideggermartin: what client are you using?
[12:33] <muelli> heideggermartin: the sshd keys are somewhere in /etc/ssh/
[12:33] <tomreyn> XATRIX: as per /etc/grub.d/41_custom you can create a file /etc/boot/grub/custom.cfg which will have just the kernel stanza you wish to show up in grub menu in it.
[12:34] <tomreyn> XATRIX: alternatively you can place it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:34] <heideggermartin> muelli: I have found tons of ssh keys in /etc/ssh/certs but I don't know which are used for the ssh command (I use mac/node/browser)
[12:34] <heideggermartin> (client)
[12:35] <tomreyn> XATRIX: then run update-grub again and set default to the # of the kernel stanza in grub.cfg
[12:35] <XATRIX> tomreyn, Sure but where should i edit paths to the kernel ? I wouldn't like to parse ton of a code :)
[12:35] <XATRIX> Also, i have no grub menu during startup...
[12:35] <muelli> heideggermartin: I have a weird feeling about your problem so I ask stupid questions. So you are using the OpenSSH ssh client? On the command line?
[12:35] <tomreyn> XATRIX: hold down shift at boot to make grub menu load
[12:36] <XATRIX> Oh
[12:36] <XATRIX> Didn't know about this
[12:36] <heideggermartin> muelli: yes i used the standard command line client.
[12:36] <tomreyn> XATRIX: you don't need to parse any code, you can put the plain kernel stanzs into one of the files
[12:36] <muelli> heideggermartin: and can you pastebin your terminal session, including the program you call and how it returns?
[12:37] <XATRIX> kernel stanzs = kernel images paths ?
[12:37] <heideggermartin> muelli: the client is part of the problem, but not one I can change ;)
[12:38] <heideggermartin> muelli: As far as I can tell its possible to register different known_host ssh certificates for different ports
[12:38] <tomreyn> XATRIX: kernel stanza =  a "menuentry" section, as found in your existing /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:38] <muelli> so, are you going to post a full transcript of you calling ssh?
[12:39] <heideggermartin> muelli: ssh <user>@<myserver>
[12:39] <heideggermartin> (client)
[12:39] <muelli> no
[12:39] <muelli> pastebin the contents of your terminal. Or use "script" and upload the file.
[12:40] <XATRIX> tomreyn, wait. If i reboot my box and hold down shift during startup, will it automatically add my new kernel to the list of kernels available to boot to ?
[12:40] <XATRIX> Or i have to manually write something into the config file
[12:42] <tomreyn> XATRIX: since the kernel image you want to try to boot is not a standard ubuntu image, you need to manually add a menuentry { } section referencing the kernel image and initrd to /etc/boot/grub/custom.cfg or /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:43] <XATRIX> Crap
[12:43] <tomreyn> ?
[12:46] <tomreyn> XATRIX: did you build this kernel image yourself, or did you find it somewhere? it's a bit of a dangerous situation that you would want to setup a custom kernel but know little about how grub works on ubuntu.
[12:47] <XATRIX> tomreyn, I'm quite experienced in building custom kernels, i did gentoo for about 7 years :) The trouble is that grub2 is quite a bit complicated than grub, and i would not like to dig into the script-code :)
[12:48] <XATRIX> I know how bootloader works, i also used lilo bootloaders, but grub2 confuses me as hell :)
[12:48] <tomreyn> heinrich5991: /etc/ssh/certs is not a standard location on ubuntu, as far as i know. what is stored in there, what placed it there (if you know), and what is its purpose (if you know)
[12:48] <XATRIX> Also it's not a hand-made kernel, i downloaded it from the http://pf.natalenko.name/binaries/ubuntu/
[12:48] <tomreyn> sorry heinrich5991, this was supposed to go to heideggermartin
[12:49] <heideggermartin> muelli: https://gist.github.com/70fd2abf55e78724285d
[12:49] <heideggermartin> muelli: I am not sure this tells you anything.
[12:49] <muelli> heideggermartin: well. So why do you see SSH being a problem? it's "npm" that fails, right?
[12:50] <heideggermartin> muelli: This is my custom npm server ... running on ubuntu
[12:50] <Ogreman> test
[12:50] <muelli> so?
[12:50] <heideggermartin> muelli: that has a different ssh key than the ssh service on the server
[12:50] <muelli> heideggermartin: I don't see SSH in the problem space at all.
[12:50] <muelli> heideggermartin: the problem I see is that "GET" fails due to SSL things.
[12:51] <root> salut
[12:51] <heideggermartin> muelli: it fails imho because the server is not part of the known_hosts
[12:51] <casualX> have a nice day folks
[12:51] <Guest84894> Comment ça va
[12:51] <muelli> heideggermartin: how do you know that?
[12:51] <muelli> heideggermartin: I see the problem is clearly mentioned: zero depth certificate. That's obviously the SSL certificate
[12:51] <muelli> from the HTTPd that is
[12:52] <heideggermartin> muelli: its a common failure if you have try to access a uncertified secure domain
[12:53] <heideggermartin> muelli: it also says in the error SELF_SIGNED_CERT which you usually have to certify with a [YES/no] question
[12:53] <heideggermartin> muelli: that is not available in npm
[12:54] <YokoBR> guys, plz, i can't understand what's happening. I had Ubuntu Server 10.04, but then i switched to 12.04. Now i've installed postfix, but i can only send some kind of mail with php. I mean, when an unser registers, it doesn't send him a mail. But when he do the first login, it does.
[12:54] <heideggermartin> muelli: to make sure I made no other mistake I want to try to take the same ssh key in my npm server as I have in the ssh service(server)
[12:54] <muelli> heideggermartin: *shrug* anyway, so far, that doesn't look like anything SSH related at all to me.
[12:55] <muelli> heideggermartin: it looks like you only need to convince npm to trust the certificate that your httpd sends out. No idea how to do that though. But that's a npm specific problem.
[12:56] <heideggermartin> muelli: I am right now wondering if I write proper english (its not my mother tongue)
[12:57] <heideggermartin> muelli: To be as clear as I can: I have the feeling that I can solve this problem if I have the same .ssh key for both services (SSH and HTTPS). The https service is installed by me and the ssh service is out-of-the-box.
[12:57] <muelli> heideggermartin: no
[12:58] <heideggermartin> muelli: So I am asking if someone knows which .ssh key and cert file is used in the default ssh service of ubuntu.
[12:58] <muelli> heideggermartin: again, I am very surprised to see you seeing anything SSH related in there. The output you provided has no indication whatsoever for anything related to SSH. Not a single hint. It's all HTTPS.
[12:58] <heideggermartin> muelli: You are not answering my question.
[12:59] <muelli> heideggermartin: look in /etc/ssh/. But you won't find anything to solve your problem there. SSH is *not related* to your problem. *Why* would it be? There is not a single technical reason.
[12:59] <muelli> heideggermartin: I am. And I am doing that although I believe your questions are bad.
[13:00] <muelli> heideggermartin: The SSHd key is in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key. But that doesn't buy you anything.
[13:00] <root__> 10200
[13:00] <heideggermartin> muelli: Thank you, do you know which the cert key is?
[13:00] <heideggermartin> muelli: sorry, cert pem file
[13:01] <muelli> heideggermartin: the problem is, your question don't make much sense. And that is, I believe, because you don't understand enough of the technical side of things.
[13:01] <muelli> i.e. SSHd doesn't work with PEM encoded files.
[13:01] <joey8> !patience > heideggermartin
[13:02] <tomreyn> heideggermartin: are you mixing up SSL and SSH by chance? "certificate" often refers to X.509. SSH doesn't use "certificates". sure, both openssl and openssh work with key pairs, often RSA key pairs, but they store and use them very differently.
[13:02] <muelli> heideggermartin: so if you want your problem to be solved, don't focus on ssh. Focus on npm and how to make it accept a certificate of your liking.
[13:04] <heideggermartin> tomreyn: That they store those files differently is unfortunate.
[13:04] <tomreyn> heideggermartin: why so?
[13:04] <mimi> No problem as such, but would like to ask for some advice please? ..Can Win8 be run successfully in Virtual Box from within Ubuntu? All I need windows for is itunes
[13:04] <heideggermartin> In the couchdb that runs on the server I have the possiblity to define the key/cert pem file for the https communication.
[13:04] <muelli> Sure it is. But it's only 2012. We have yet to reach a state in which we can do PKI properly.
[13:05] <muelli> mimi: guess so.
[13:05] <mimi> muelli: doesn't sound like you've tried it? :)
[13:06] <muelli> muelli: correct. But I don't see a reason why it would not work. Plus: it's easy to test, no?
[13:06] <mimi> I would normally run a dual boot system, but don't know if I can be bothered to go through the hassle (yet again)
[13:06] <tomreyn> mimi: it does provide a windows 8 profile. and windows 8 boots up fine in a virtualbox VM on a ubuntu 12.10 host. video acceleration doesn't work for me, but that's porobably not a concern for you.
[13:06] <heideggermartin> As far as I can tell: npm (like git) uses the known_hosts file on mac to accept uncertified urls
[13:06] <muelli> heideggermartin: how do you know?
[13:07] <mimi> tomreyn,  ...thanks. No, I don't think it would be a concern. I use linux most of the time, and only windows for itunes.
[13:07] <muelli> heideggermartin: that is very very likely to only apply for SSH. But you *don't* try to make a connection via SSH. But rather HTTPS.
[13:07] <mimi> I've never tried virtual box ...am running linux at the moment from live usb
[13:07] <tomreyn> mimi: i guess you'll be fine then.
[13:08] <mimi> tomreyn, thanks. once Virtual box is running in Ubuntu, is windows just installed as per normal ...within virtual box?
[13:09] <heideggermartin> muelli: Not much i can say to that ...
[13:10] <mimi> thanks ....'night. ...
[13:11] <LTF> Hi, do u know how can I locate a script which runs afert login?, I only can see the echo exit to search it by it
[13:11] <LTF> im trying find / | xargs grep ´word´
[13:11] <LTF> without success
[13:16] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I'm running ubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <tomreyn> LTF: can you post the output you get after logging in (including the login/password prompt) to paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:17] <Lorra> .1 with the beautiful Enlightenment 17 window manager and I would like to use connman which is the default network manager for it or as second choice network-manager in the tray. Does anybody know how to accomplish either of those?
[13:18] <MarcN> I'm running Ubuntu Desktop 12.10 but want to upgrade to x86_64 in order for KVM to support x86_64 VMs. Is that simply a matter of installing a different kernel package?
[13:21] <tomreyn> MarcN: if you installed a 32 bit ubuntu so far, then you should reinstall to switch to the 64 bit architecture.
[13:21] <DJones> MarcN: Have you installed 32 bit originally? If so, you can't upgrade to 64 bit, you have to do a fresh install
[13:21] <LTF> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1454691/ i transcripted it because i cant copy from that console,the scripts takes the bash returns login when exiting the script
[13:22] <the_dark_knight> hi, Is there any comman to see the performance of opening a url say 100 times. I have a url localhost/test.php. I want to send request to open this url 100times maybe more. Is there any command in shell to do that?
[13:22] <LTF> its in session without X tomreyn
[13:22] <tomreyn> LTF: and you want to get rid of the "Ingrese ai si quiere restaurar la imagen de Ax o f123 si quiere restaurarla de f123" message?
[13:23] <Lorra> the_dark_knight, you may get the contents at that url by using curl <your_url>
[13:23] <LTF> tomreyn: no,I want the code,i want to locate it
[13:23] <heideggermartin> muelli: I solved it with help from nodejs community. Thanks a lot!
[13:23] <LTF> tomreyn:  to modify
[13:23] <muelli> heideggermartin: :)
[13:24] <heideggermartin> muelli: Half-knowledge is a grudge
[13:24] <MarcN> DJones, tomreyn - If I wipe and install Ubuntu Server, surely I can install ubuntu-desktop (or whatever) to get all the GUI goodness, right?  My goal is to run KVM + OpenStack and be able to host x86_64 VMs  (like Ubuntu Server which is x86_64 only).  Just to kick the tires.
[13:24] <tomreyn> the_dark_knight: you want to look into httpd bench marking.
[13:24] <muelli> heideggermartin: bonus points if you mention briefly how to solve it so that people in the future can read these archived IRC logs.
[13:24] <alexxxxxa> Can somebody help me to set correctly  /etc/network/interfaces ?
[13:24] <Lorra> the_dark_knight, you can repeat that command in a loop, when you invoke curl it gives also some statistics before outputting the result, you may extract them from the output of the command and then use them to do whatever you want
[13:24] <alexxxxxa> I'm having problems with my wireless
[13:24] <compdoc> MarcN, yes, thats easy to do
[13:24] <heideggermartin> :muelli: sure: npm set strict-ssl false
[13:25] <tomreyn> LTF: the code which does what exactly?
[13:25] <alexxxxxa> disabling ipv6 didn't work :(
[13:25] <fellipe> hi. I am running 12.04 server and I have two interfaces with two internet links, and I have multipath rules. So I can switch between the links at anytime. But, I set dns-nameservers in each of interface configuration block, and the dns resolution is toooooo slow. I thought the kernel would query the proper dns wich belongs to that link of that specific interface. So how to solve it?
[13:25] <LTF> tomreyn: restores a cloned image
[13:25] <MarcN> compdoc, thought so, just wanted to verify before wiping the lappy...
[13:26] <SirJ> fgsdgsdgsdgsdg
[13:26] <SirJ> sdgsdgsdg
[13:27] <elfer> lol
[13:27] <compdoc> MarcN, install server and select LAMP, and ssh, and whatever else you need. And I can give you the command to install a minimal desktop
[13:27] <tomreyn> LTF: umm, now you lost me. none of this output you posted to pastebin is related to a process which "restores a cloned image" of something.
[13:27] <SirJ> Все америкосы вафлёры
[13:28] <LTF> tomreyn: no,its only the output,its asks u what image u wanna restore
[13:28] <bba56> I am using chrome Version 23.0.1271.97 and each time i click on any link a pop up winodw appears forn this site ad6media.fr
[13:29] <Mukhthar> hello all
[13:29] <Mukhthar> should i delete the id_rsa & id_rsa.pub file after adding the id_rsa.pub to authorized_keys
[13:29] <MarcN> compdoc, no worries, I'm a long, long time Ubuntu user, but wanted to test my plan before starting....
[13:30] <smartracer> i need a help.my brother stopped ubuntu while its upgrading.now ubuntu is not loading
[13:30] <muelli> smartracer: how do you know it's "not loading"?
[13:30] <smartracer> i tried recovery mode but keyboard is not working.when i enter recovery mode
[13:31] <tomreyn> LTF: please sum up again what you are trying to accomplish, how you have tried to do it so far and how it is not working out. so far you were talking about searching all files for some text to find some script, mentioned that something outputs something undesirable when you login, and about images which are retored. i do not understand how to this goes together.
[13:31] <smartracer> i entered the ubuntu and screen freezes
[13:31] <[awall]> .sh ps|grep perl|wc -l <-- command for what?
[13:32] <tomreyn> [awall]: .sh is not a knwon command on a default ubuntu installation.
[13:33] <[awall]> ps|grep perl|wc -l ?
[13:33] <[awall]> command for?
[13:33] <Lorra> smartracer, you can use the cd/dvd/usb key you installed ubuntu from in "livecd" mode, copy the files you care about (tipically the contents of the /home directory) somewhere safe and perform a clean install, it doesn't take much
[13:33] <smartracer> screen freezzes its not loading what to do?
[13:34] <Lorra> smartracer, (the clean install doesn't take much, I don't know about copying your files)
[13:34] <smartracer> how can i do package repair throu command line at start up
[13:34] <tomreyn> [awall]: # of running processes, owned by the current user, which contain the string "perl"
[13:34] <tomreyn> [awall]: possibly +1
[13:34] <LTF> tomreyn: no, after i login with an specific user an script is executed,the script only shows a text giving me two options, if i close the script the session is closed asking login again. Well, I want to locate the script in my system, to modify its code
[13:35] <witnit> Does anyone know how to download a CD version of ubuntu 12.10.  I can only seem to find the DVD version which is too large for a CD.  Thanks.
[13:35] <tomreyn> LTF: this doesn't sound like a standard ubuntu configuration.
[13:35] <OerHeks> witnit 12.10 is too big for a 700 mb cd+r
[13:35] <smartracer> ok thanks for help
[13:35] <cfhowlett> witnit: time to try the usb install method?
[13:35] <Mukhthar> witnit: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.10/
[13:36] <Touhou11> witnit: Use Xubuntu, that will still fit on a CD, plus it's better anyway
[13:36] <witnit> cfhowlett: I would if the PC I'm trying to install to had a USB port.  It's a n OLD PC.
[13:36] <LTF> tomreyn: no,is a script made by an user
[13:36] <witnit> touhoull: thanks.  I'll look it up for differences.
[13:37] <LTF> tomreyn: i just wanna learn how to search it by content
[13:37] <cfhowlett> witnit: ah.  ok.  then the suggestion to try xubunut/lubuntu would seem valid.  both are optimized for older/lower spec machines
[13:37] <tomreyn> LTF: check what the users' shell is: getent passwd | grep <name_of_the_user>
[13:37] <witnit> Thanks folks!!!
[13:37] <tomreyn> LTF: aslso check what the users' home directory is. then inspect the dot file in the users' home directory
[13:38] <chipdalf> have a nice day... bye...
[13:38] <Mukhthar> witnit : u can use plop boot manage to boot from usb if the bios does not support or by adding usb card
[13:38] <LTF> tomreyn: no, i mean, the script is executed by "restaura" user, i know its owner, i have access, this system just has not .xinitrc or x system, and dont know where to looki in,in rc.d i did not find it
[13:39] <tomreyn> LTF: for example, if the users' shell is bash, then the scripts which get executed on login are, in his home directory, .bash_profile and .bashrc
[13:39] <LTF> tomreyn: no,i already checkd there
[13:39] <witnit> mukhthar: Thanks, but I'm just trying to revive an unused PC without investing more money into it.
[13:40] <tomreyn> LTF: maybe the script which is called is invoked / referenced by the login scripts.
[13:41] <LTF> tomreyn:  so how i locate it
[13:42] <tomreyn> LTF: well, read the users' login scripts since no other scripts the user can modify are executed on the users' login.
[13:42] <tomreyn> LTF: either what you are looking for is in there or it is referenced yb them
[13:42] <tomreyn> *by
[13:43] <tomreyn> LTF: you can diff the users' login scripts against those in /etc/skel/ to detect changes
[13:43] <angy> Need some help here. I was trying to format a usb stick and throu my not paying attention i changed my hardrive file type.... Now i get grub rescue when i start up. What is the command to change the file type back to fat (i belive it should be??)
[13:44] <craigbass1976> angy, is it a grub thing, or an fdisk thing that you need?
[13:44] <angy> all i can get is a grub command prompt. Im still new to linux.
[13:45] <lenochka_> это ubuntu-ru ?????
[13:45] <angy> it shows this,  error: unknown filesystem.       grub rescue>
[13:45] <Pici> lenochka_: /j #ubuntu-ru
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !ru|lenochka_:
[13:46] <craigbass1976> angy, are you trying to boot to this stick?
[13:48] <angy> no, its installed on hard drive. been there for months. i just changed the file type to ntfs by mistace
[13:50] <sebokie> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> sebokie: greetings
[13:50] <angy> craigbass1976:I think i need the command to change the file type back to fat32
[13:51] <sebokie> I would like to buy a printer which is able to scan to network folder
[13:51] <sebokie> HP LaserJet Pro 200 MFP M276nw
[13:51] <craigbass1976> angy, I don't know that you can just do that with a command.  Someone else pipe up, but I thought this involved fdisk and changing the filesystem type from there.
[13:51] <sebokie> does someone know if it can scan to a NFS share on a Ubuntu server?
[13:52] <craigbass1976> sebokie, pm me
[13:52] <s9iper1> how to set up proxy setting in ubuntu 12.10 in my country youtube is banned so i like to open it throught proxy any body helps !! ??
[13:52] <angy> craigbass1976: Ya i wish lol, it wont boot pass grub command thou
[13:52] <TheLordOfTime> s9iper1, if its banned, i think asking for help bypassing local laws is bad form...
[13:53] <cfhowlett> TheLordOfTime: i'd tend to agree ...
[13:53] <angy> s9iper1: Google is your best friend
[13:53] <TheLordOfTime> s9iper1, i don't think this channel will help you to bypass local laws and regulations, i think you'll need to google that on your own.
[13:53] <s9iper1> angy: yes google is and i set up proxy as well but didnt help
[13:53] <cfhowlett> s9iper1: that said, i'm pretty sure the local community knows how.  I'm in china.  accessing youtube took me 30 seconds once I googled the solution
[13:54] <cfhowlett> s9iper1: not youtube ... facebook.  but the same method.  see reassigning /hosts file for more
[13:54] <s9iper1> cfhowlett: i am from pakistan
[13:54] <angy> ya im pretty sure theres some law we would be breaking instructing you on that over irc.
[13:54] <djzn> guys i need to make my cursor pointer BIGGER... like 48.....
[13:55] <cfhowlett> s9iper1: YMMV but see  http://4rapiddev.com/internet/access-blocked-facebook-in-vietnamchina-using-google-dns-or-changing-hosts-file/
[13:55] <stigmata> can the back in time app save the backup file on a computer on the network doesnt seem to have
[13:56] <s9iper1> cfhowlett: is this helpfull i try that ??
[13:57] <angy> Anyone know that grub command to change disk file type to fat32 or what ever ubuntu needs to fun ?
[13:57] <Mukhthar> should i delete the id_rsa & id_rsa.pub key on the remote servers for passwordless login
[13:58] <stigmata> can the back in time app save the backup file on a computer on the network doesnt seem to have ?
[13:58] <craigbass1976> angy, I musty have misunderstood.  I thought you actually changed the filesystem type of the thumb drive.  What you did was actually changed what grub thought it was?
[13:58] <tomreyn> djzn: which desktop / window manager are you using?
[13:59] <tomreyn> andy: you can use parted to set the partition type
[13:59] <tomreyn> angy: ^
[14:00] <kalamatianos212> hi
[14:00] <angy> CORRECT 9sorry for caps)
[14:00] <craigbass1976> tomreyn, I'm not sure the filesystem type actually changed.  I think angy just screwed up grub, the equivalent of putting the wrong filesystem type in the menu.lst file, or however it is you do that these days.
[14:01] <angy> i used the disk app in ubuntu and thats how i changed it i thought i was on the thumb drive but i was on the hard disk
[14:01] <tomreyn> angy: do this in a terminal: ( cat /proc/partitions && echo [14:01] <djzn> tomreyn: unity
[14:01] <angy> kk 1 sec
[14:02] <angy> with () ?
[14:02] <tomreyn> djzn: then i don'T know, sorry.
[14:02] <tomreyn> angy: yes, paste anything after the colon
[14:02] <angy> its on a diff pc
[14:02] <tomreyn> angy: ths should return a URL which I need you need to copy here
[14:03] <angy> okay kool
[14:03] <angy> sec
[14:03] <Petaz> is there a ubuntu notbook with ubuntu key instead of windows key?
[14:04] <agsel> can anyone recommend me a tool for gnome which has krusader alike synchronization?
[14:04] <agsel> or should I use krusader?
[14:04] <angy> tomreyn: unknown command
[14:05] <tomreyn> angy: okay then do this in a terminal: ( sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install parted && cat /proc/partitions && echo [14:06] <pengpeng> ?
[14:06] <angy> k
[14:07] <Hapzzz> PHP 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep 12 2012 19:00:43)
[14:07] <Hapzzz> how do i update that with the packages
[14:07] <Hapzzz> at least to latest 5.4
[14:08] <angy> wow unknowncommand: sudo O0
[14:08] <ss_> Hi there, I'm having some problems running a game on ubuntu. Well, a few games actually! two from the current humble bundle :).
[14:08] <ss_> specifically, Shank 2 just seg faults horribly
[14:08] <ss_> while Closure says: "Couldn't find matching GLX visual"
[14:09] <ss_> slightly more useful, investigating this i've found a package called "glx-alternative-nvidia" Which i've tried to install
[14:10] <angy> tomreyn: i think i have to do a fresh install it wont even do sudo
[14:10] <tomreyn> ss_: your video drivers lack 3D acceleration
[14:10] <ss_> ss_, my video driver is an nvidia 650 GTX.
[14:11] <ss_> oh driver
[14:11] <tomreyn> angy: are you working from a live cd now?
[14:11] <ss_> right
[14:11] <ss_> yes! :D
[14:11] <angy> no this is a diffrent computer
[14:11] <tomreyn> angy: okay, but the other computer which is broken, how are you working on it?
[14:11] <ss_> tomreyn, yes I had feared the nivdia drivers were not correctly installed when nvidia-settings told me I "did not appear to be running the nvidia drivers" :D
[14:11] <tyler> I am running ubuntu 12.10. How can I close the lid on my laptop have it "Do nothing"
[14:11] <brendan_> so on 12.04 server, i get "running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces" so what is the recommended way?
[14:12] <ss_> tomreyn, however, I have tried to follow various guides and none of their steps seem to fail?
[14:12] <angy> its on the same desk: when i power on it goes to grub rescue:
[14:12] <dcherniv> brendan_, ifup & ifdown
[14:12] <dcherniv> brendan_, but you should be good with service networking restar
[14:12] <brendan_> ok ty dcherniv
[14:13] <ss_> tomreyn,  that is to say, i've installed nvidia-current and restarted X, though this seems to have had little effect
[14:13] <ss_> any suggestions on how to proceed? :S
[14:13] <Guest62965> Nevermind, easier than I thought.
[14:13] <angy> tomreyn: I dont have anything to loose on the drive so a fresh install cant hurt. Ill just take this as a learning excperiance
[14:15] <tomreyn> ss_: i'm sorry, can't guide you through fixing the video acceleration right now. try the guides on help.ubuntu.com to either install the proprietary nvidia or the open source noveau drivers with video acceleration, unless you already did.
[14:15] <brendan_> one more quick question dcherniv, should networking be restarted when an entry is made to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[14:16] <tomreyn> angy: alright then, if you 're not loosing anything, then just go ahead. it can well be faster than trying to recover.
[14:17] <angy> ya, now i just have to get this thumb drive to mount on ubuntu so i can format and create a boot. that was my origenal issue LOL
[14:18] <angy> But i think its working now
[14:18] <ss_> tomreyn, hmm yes i have already installed the propriety nvidia drivers using apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[14:18] <ss_> that seems to work successfully, but changes nothing
[14:18] <ss_> is there really nothing more that has to be done after the nvidia-current-updates is installed? no settings changed etc?
[14:19] <brendan_> should networking be restarted when an entry is added/deleted to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[14:19] <dcherniv> brendan_, yes
[14:19] <brendan_> ok
[14:19] <angy> How can i echo the DM that this pc is using so i can install that on my PC ?
[14:19] <ss_> brb, gonna restart X after having installed those new drivers
[14:20] <tomreyn> angy: sudo apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[14:20] <ss_> hmm, no joy
[14:20] <angy> got that already
[14:21] <tomreyn> angy: okay :) what did you mean by DM?
[14:21] <angy> i forget what desktop maneger this pc uses
[14:22] <angy> like gnome and what have ya
[14:22] <tomreyn> angy: the default would be unity
[14:23] <angy> ya i hate unity lol
[14:23] <tomreyn> angy: i dislike it, too. you select the window manager / desktop to use when logging in.
[14:23] <zwangsfixiert> scriptassist
[14:23] <tomreyn> angy: some more suggestions: xubuntu (xfce), lubuntu (lxde), kubuntu (kde)
[14:24] <zwangsfixiert> yes
[14:24] <angy> okay im gonna relog so i can see what this pc uses i liek it
[14:24] <tomreyn> zwangsfixiert: whom are you talking to?
[14:25] <craigbass1976> I've got a samba share.  In fstab, I do a //192.168.2.107/moulton-files   /home/craig/share  cifs	file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,uid=1000,gid=1000   0 0  But this doesn't work at boot because samba hasn't started yet when fstab is read.  I do a mount -a and it's fine.
[14:25] <angy> and kunduntu is the same as ubuntu or whats the diff ?
[14:26] <Pici> angy: Kubuntu comes with KDE as the default desktop environment, and a different set of KDE specific applications installed by default. Otherwise they are exactly the same.
[14:26] <aditya3098> Hey, I have a little prob with gdm3
[14:26] <craigbass1976> So I stuck a script that has mount -t cifs //192.168.2.107/share /home/craig/share in it, ran update-rc.d samba-mounts defaults, but still didn't get it to mount at boot.  Any other ideas?
[14:26] <aditya3098> It worked fine on precise, but just don'nt work on quantal
[14:27] <angy> okay, i guess ill give that a try. Just wondering if i need to hit a diff channel if i need help (#kubuntu) ?
[14:27] <ss_> ah ha! there was an error on my install of nvidia-current-updates. specifically this error: "ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.7.0-7-generic is not supported"
[14:27] <aditya3098> Anyone?
[14:28] <aditya3098> Hey, I have a little prob with gdm3
[14:28] <aditya3098> It worked fine on precise, but just don'nt work on quantal
[14:28] <aditya3098> Did that get lost?
[14:28] <tomreyn> craigbass1976: you want to edit /etc/fstab and have it mounted that way. see the fstab man page for the proper format.
[14:28] <gbaman> hey guys, got a quick question, i have a rather complicated ubuntu install for testing with and need a little help :)
[14:29] <gbaman> anyone here good with that sort of stuff?
[14:29] <Vegetablesalad> Hello, could anyone please help me with this error.. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yK9TZvU4
[14:29] <Vegetablesalad> I had 2.32, then I compiled and installed 2.34 and now am getting this error
[14:29] <tomreyn> aditya3098: it didn't get lost. you didn't describe your problem, yet.
[14:30] <gbaman> ?
[14:30] <aditya3098> When I load gdm, it shows up with the default background and just sits there
[14:30] <tomreyn> !ask gbaman
[14:30] <tomreyn> !ask | gbaman
[14:31] <gbaman> Sorry, I am trying to install ubuntu on an external HDD which already has data on it on 2 seperate partitions
[14:32] <gbaman> I have a 20gb partiton for ubuntu testing allocated and just need to install it now, but what is the best way to do this, taking into account the bootloader as that seems to be causing problems
[14:33] <aditya3098> http://askubuntu.com/questions/208132/quantal-gdm-not-working
[14:35] <aditya3098> !patience
[14:35] <mooo> anyone have any ideas how I would insert a new line "\n" with: gawk -- '{ sub(/\/[^\/]*$/, "", $0 ); print $0 }'
[14:36] <aditya3098> \nick adityav3098
[14:36] <gbaman> I am trying to install ubuntu on an external HDD which already has data on it on 2 seperate partitions then i have my 3rd ubuntu partition. I have a 20gb partiton for ubuntu testing allocated and just need to install it now, but what is the best way to do this, taking into account the bootloader as that seems to be causing problems --Now on 1 line
[14:37] <mooo>      anyone have a clue?
[14:38] <ss_> tomreyn, ok so I found this discussion on the forum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10 which suggests that I should have linux-source installed before I install the nvidia-current-updates driver
[14:40] <lov> Whenever I press the "alt" button, the "Dash Home" menu opens. Is there any way to disable it opening for default? This gets really confusing and obnoxious when using synergy./
[14:41] <ss_> however, when I try to install the current-updates driver I noticed there was an error at the end regarding a problem with dkms and the unsupported version of my kernel. I then tried nvidia-current instead and it seemed to work! in that it got to the end of the aptitude install without an error.
[14:41] <lov> Nevermind, found it. Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts.
[14:41] <lov> Thanks anyway!
[14:41] <ss_> however, nvidia-settings still believes the nvidia drivers are not installed and the game still crashes :D
[14:41] <ss_> alas
[14:41] <joey8> lov
[14:41] <joey8> gone
[14:41] <joey8> before i could say bye
[14:42] <mooo> anyone familiar with gawk?
[14:43] <lov> OK, nevermind. That actually doesn't work.
[14:44] <lov> I'm looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[14:44] <lov> however, disabling the "Key to show the HUD" item still shows the search bar when I press alt.
[14:44] <lov> I've also disabled "Search", but that didn't help.
[14:45] <angy> If i install xbackight can i set brightness to 100 at boot some how ?
[14:47] <lov> Looking around, it seems like a lot of people have this problem.
[14:52] <eruditehermit> hey, can anyone help me. After an apt-get upgrade, my apt is stuck at update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-21-generic
[14:52] <eruditehermit> and it won't complete
[14:52] <eruditehermit> can anyone help me make it finish
[14:52] <eruditehermit> I don't want to reboot with it like this
[14:54] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: how long has it been stuck?
[14:54] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, 20 minutes+
[14:54] <craigbass1976> I dont' know what just happened.  All of a sudden I'm stuck at a grub menu, and the keyboard doesnt' work.
[14:54] <craigbass1976> Any ideas?
[14:56] <SolarisBoy> a few hard to tell
[14:56] <SolarisBoy> do you have log output with any errors? and possibly dmesg? and is the initramfs a product of a distupgrade or specific package install?
[14:57] <SolarisBoy> /distupgrade/upgrade/
[14:57] <SolarisBoy> craigbass1976: the initram gets loaded on bootup to memory where drivers and stuff are loaded before pass of two init, so a broken one can affect boot
[14:57] <SolarisBoy> craigbass1976: do you have other kernels installed?
[14:59] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, was that at me?
[14:59] <SolarisBoy> yes
[14:59] <craigbass1976> SolarisBoy, I only see a choice for "Previous Linux versions".  I've been running 12.04 on that box since not long after it came out, so if grub saves the kernel entries by default, then they're there somewhere.  I'm downloading an iso now to boot to
[14:59] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, the initramfs is just hanging. I was removing fglrx
[14:59] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: do you have any log errors?
[14:59] <Tony_Stark> anyone know what a dma script error is or what causes it?
[14:59] <NaZZaX> is there an easy way to change the obnoxious colors in nano the comments are bright fuscha
[14:59] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, which log would I look at?
[15:00] <zgnuu> Is there a graphical program I can use to edit my GTK colours?
[15:00] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: try looking at the tail end of dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[15:00] <SolarisBoy> craigbass1976: really sorry i was aiming those for eruditehermit =)
[15:01] <SolarisBoy> craigbass1976: stuck at grub boot then?
[15:01] <martian> Is there a way to set a custom prompt for only a specific directory (and its children perhaps)?
[15:01] <superdmp> I don't understand why I am getting this: http://dpaste.com/849849/ (Ubuntu 10.10)
[15:02]  * NaZZaX hates colors on mirc
[15:02] <SolarisBoy> martian: maybe with bash startup files and conditional logic on setting PS1
[15:04] <craigbass1976> SolarisBoy, yes; hang on though.  I'm grabbing xubuntu iso
[15:04] <SolarisBoy> kk
[15:04] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1454897/
[15:04] <martian> SolarisBoy: oh right, like adding an inline-if in the prompt. hmmm thanks :)
[15:04] <SolarisBoy> martian: sure
[15:05] <SolarisBoy> martian: it's probably easier with zsh/zle stuff take a look at how they do it (bash/zsh) for those prompts where it updates to your current directory as a hint - lots of folks have that prompt
[15:06] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: nothing concerning you i see there =(
[15:06] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: are you on a laptop?
[15:07] <guang_> when i use gdb,why i type "b 0x7c00",then type "c",but it does not stop at 0x7c00?
[15:07] <craigbass1976> SolarisBoy, well now, that's retarded...  PS2 keyboard works fine.
[15:08] <SolarisBoy> craigbass1976: if your using a very special keybooard (in some cases) i've seen it not be fully functional or not functional at all at grub screens during bootup (and earlier in bios)
[15:09] <SolarisBoy> only a very few though.. mainly on servers and stuff where i had to just plug a ps/2 mouse in to get it to work - also it could be other weird things like bios setting lock keys on boot - no clue least it works now huh?
[15:09] <B0R3D_W1Sd0m> how to use windows key of my keyboard in ubuntu
[15:09] <craigbass1976> SolarisBoy, It's weird.  THe same keyboard has worked for months.  Now that I'm into xfce, the usb keyboard works fine.
[15:10] <SolarisBoy> weird - im pretty lame on X/graphics related stuff and defer to my coworkers on that lol
[15:10] <Tony_Stark> SolarisBoy: When I boot my ubuntu server, it gets to a certain point where it is attempting to run a script, but says dma error.  What causes this and how to I fix it.
[15:11] <SolarisBoy> Tony_Stark: what script? whats the error exactly? (pastebin) does it halt boot? what throws the error?
[15:12] <Tony_Stark> It does halt the boot process and continues to display the same error over and over
[15:12] <SolarisBoy> Tony_Stark: ok
[15:12] <SolarisBoy> Tony_Stark: do you know what script it is? something you put or something from the system? is it new?
[15:12] <cdavis> I am very frustrated with nvida and kernel apt-get kernel updates.I don't think X is using any nvidia drivers again, can someone help me trouble shoot this
[15:13] <Tony_Stark> SolarisBoy: I am running Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS.  I have not run it in a while, but when I attempted to boot it the other day, I got the error message.
[15:13] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, well my machine hung so I didn't get  achoice
[15:13] <Tony_Stark> SolarisBoy: I wish I was at home and I would paste the error for you, but I am not there right now.
[15:13] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, when I ran it after rebooting it completed
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> Tony_Stark: Tony_Stark cool can you capture the message and post?
[15:13] <cdavis> modprobe nvidia claims nvidia-310 doesn't exist, however, dpkg shows it as installed
[15:13] <wessly> it's better to download a 32 bit version of OS for Intel B960 or x64?
[15:13] <SolarisBoy> ahh - Tony_Stark maybe try booting with nodma options into a recovery mode and disabling whatever script it is
[15:14] <Tony_Stark> SolarisBoy: Ok..I will attempt that.  If you are on later this evening, I will get you the specific error.
[15:14] <jim_> hi - having trouble with a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install, can't get flash (youtube) vids to play.  have installed full restricted package, checked for proprietary drivers, also tried the firefox plugin "Flash Aid," but still a black space where the vids should be - I'd appreciate any suggestions, thanks
[15:14] <Tony_Stark> SolarisBoy: Thank you for helping
[15:14] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: you may want to check you file system - or hdd - i had that happen and a week later that drive died - also i've seen it happen actually work after about 30 minutes updating initramfs (same bad drive)
[15:15] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, I just got this. Its a new SSD
[15:16] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: not a definate but something to consider - also check the error logs again more fully (sudo find /var/log -name \*log -mtime -5 -exec grep -i error '{}' \; ) - you may find an actual error then
[15:16] <SolarisBoy> Tony_Stark: sure
[15:17] <SolarisBoy> eruditehermit: you can adjust some of the values in the command to see more stuff like stuff more than 5 hours young or maybe change the string "error" to "initram" or something else.
[15:17] <Guest67523> hi derps!
[15:18] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, thanks
[15:18] <eruditehermit> SolarisBoy, brb
[15:18] <Guest67523> I have come here to announce the end of the world!
[15:18] <SolarisBoy> it's possible it was putting something huge into the image and it pretty memory intensive to pack all the stuff back into the image with the lzma compression so i've seen that halt based ont hat as well
[15:18] <SolarisBoy> sure
[15:19] <Guest67523> control-z!!! me gusta it
[15:20] <anonymous_> hi
[15:21] <jim_> having trouble with a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install, can't get flash (youtube) vids to play.  have installed full restricted package, checked for proprietary drivers, also tried the firefox plugin "Flash Aid," but still a black space where the vids should be - I'd appreciate any suggestions, thanks
[15:21] <SolarisBoy> wessly: as per http://ark.intel.com/products/59836/Intel-Pentium-Processor-B960--2M-Cache-2_20-GHz | thats a 64 bit cpu so you should go with 64 bit
[15:22] <craigbass1976> I stuck mount -t cifs //192.168.2.107/share /home/craig/share in a file called /etc/init.d/samba-share  and ran update-rc.d samba-mounts defaults  How do I undo that?
[15:22] <anonymous_> i am 16 years
[15:22] <SolarisBoy> i wonder how old ubuntu is
[15:22] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: The first release was in 2004
[15:23] <theadmin> I think
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> cool thanks theadmin
[15:23] <SolarisBoy> still a baby
[15:23] <craigbass1976> SolarisBoy, But a lot older than Windows 8
[15:23] <compdoc> craigbass1976, update-rc.d -f apache2 remove samba-mounts, then delete /etc/init.d/samba-share
[15:24] <compdoc> craigbass1976, oops
[15:24] <SolarisBoy> right... also i think windows 8 is demon spawn so many differences
[15:24] <compdoc> update-rc.d -f samba-mounts remove
[15:24] <craigbass1976> compdoc, That was funny though.
[15:24] <compdoc> ty
[15:24] <tomreyn> craigbass1976:  was /etc/init.d/samba-share already there and you added to it or did you create this file from scratch and it didn't exist previously?
[15:24] <anonymous_> i am moroccan
[15:24] <ShawnRisk> I am using Ubuntu 12.10 and wondering why my wireless internet can't connect sometimes but other times I can.  I only have a WPS device wired to the internet box.  Any ideas?
[15:24] <craigbass1976> tomreyn, I made it
[15:25] <Guest3159> ping
[15:25] <jay_why_bee> pong
[15:25] <SolarisBoy> ShawnRisk: are there signal differences during the inability to connect?
[15:25] <tomreyn> craigbass1976: then you should be set with compdoc's instructions
[15:25] <Guest3159> hhii
[15:25] <tomreyn> craigbass1976: were you able to make the mount on boot work with fstab?
[15:27] <ShawnRisk> SolarisBoy: On My Mac it is full, and on Ubuntu it is 1 under the top, but that shouldn't make a difference.
[15:27] <craigbass1976> tomreyn, not yet.  It was trying to mount via the init.d script, then instead of just failing it locked the box up and gave me an error.  Something about Merry Christmas Ha Ha Ha!
[15:27] <hdyuiwow11> hi there
[15:28] <jay_why_bee> I have a update-grub question.  I just upgraded a server clean, but I have a filesystem (unmounted) with my old server's install on it.  Whenever I update-grub, it finds all the old kernels on that unmounted filesystem.  How can I keep it from adding this to my grub.cfg?
[15:28] <tomreyn> !rootirc | root
[15:29] <dr_willis> jay_why_bee:  you could rename the kernel directory perhaps.
[15:29] <tomreyn> craigbass1976: well, it's close to cmas ;)
[15:29] <dr_willis> jay_why_bee:  or perhaps disable the os-prober part of the grub configs
[15:29] <tomreyn> *xmas
[15:29] <SolarisBoy> ShawnRisk: just checking - so you can single the ubuntu box out with different behaviour your saying?
[15:29] <hdyuiwow11> after update to 310 network drivers lost
[15:29] <SolarisBoy> ShawnRisk: what card/driver is it using?
[15:29] <jay_why_bee> dr_willis let me see if I can rename the old /boot directory.
[15:30] <hdyuiwow11> nvidia 460M
[15:30] <SolarisBoy> ShawnRisk: also try iwevent command from wireless-tools (i think) package to see what the card is doing around the time it's occuring
[15:30] <EagleScreen> hi
[15:31] <EagleScreen> when i am watching a movie, afer some minutes, the screen turns black, then when I move the mouse, screen turns on again, how can I avoid this behaviour?
[15:32] <dr_willis> disabvle the screen blanker perhaps in the settings EagleScreen . some media players auto-disable it. some dont
[15:32] <dr_willis> or set itto be like 2 hrs. instead of 20 min
[15:33] <tomreyn> jakub: do you really need to connect with four users?
[15:33] <craigbass1976> Is it possible to tell grub to ignore the fact that there's no keyboard and just boot?  I don't understand why it's hanging
[15:33] <cdavis> can someone help me with modprobe nvidia > FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[15:34] <strempo> hi guys
[15:34] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  ive seen the PC BIOS complain../ but never grub
[15:34] <jay_why_bee> dr_willis: trying to rename the old "boot" directory, or even the old links vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old did't work
[15:34] <dr_willis> jay_why_bee:  never really had the issue. You could just delete them if you never plan on booting the server.. or tar them up
[15:34] <EagleScreen> dr_willis: I have: Turn screen off when inactive for: Never
[15:35] <jay_why_bee> dr_willis: any idea where the script is that probes for other configs?
[15:35] <anonymous_> ok
[15:35] <dr_willis> or perhaps move them to  some other directory
[15:35] <strempo> i want to install lubuntu in my pc, but i m not able cause sis video impede me at the beginning
[15:35] <tomreyn> !rootirc > d0tnet_
[15:35] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, grub is being a vulgar noun.
[15:35] <dr_willis> jay_why_bee:  that would be the os-prober script in the grub.d dir
[15:35] <xomniverse> I installed the game Cave Story to /opt/CaveStory+ and /opt/CaveStory+_64 will launch via terminal or the Thunar file manager,but if I create a /user/share/applications/cavestory.desktop file and try to launch it from there, it crashes
[15:36] <strempo> how should i do dr_willis
[15:36] <strempo> ?
[15:36] <dr_willis> xomniverse:  make a script the launcher launches that cd's to the cavestory directory then runs the game
[15:37] <dr_willis> strempo:  sis really stinks in their linux support.. their windows support stinks also..  I dont ever buy anything with SiS - so no idea
[15:37] <AbortD> do i only have to apt-install gcc to be able to compile code?
[15:37] <dr_willis> strempo:   if the forums and askubuntu.com dont mention that specific sis card.  ive got no other ideas,
[15:37] <RandyG71> Good day folks......having some issues with my ubuntu machine and am lost on a solution. error is
[15:37] <dr_willis> AbortD:  for C code.. gcc would be needed yes
[15:38] <RandyG71> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic_3.2.0-31.50_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[15:38] <RandyG71>  failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./boot/abi-3.2.0-31-generic': No space left on device
[15:38] <RandyG71> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[15:38] <dr_willis> !compile | AbortD
[15:38] <AbortD> dr_willis: my question though is that the only package i need
[15:38] <dr_willis> AbortD:  for the most basic and trivial of C  code.. perhaps.
[15:38] <erncic> AbortD, apt-get install build-essential would be better
[15:38] <AbortD> dr_willis: erncic ty
[15:38] <savio> hi
[15:39] <dr_willis> RandyG71:  perhaps you have so many apport logs its maxed out.
[15:39] <tomreyn> RandyG71: your partition is full.
[15:39] <AbortD> havent used ubuntu in awhile
[15:39] <alimj> Compliant: Why aircrack-ng was removed from 12.04 precise? I had to compile it from source. It is not only for hacking. I use airodump to monitor available frequencies for better WiFi config. Anyone from Canonical?
[15:39] <RandyG71> thanks for the response......how do i clear the logs? The partition is pretty big and i am only using OSticket on the machine
[15:39] <tomreyn> RandyG71: that's, your /boot partition
[15:39] <tomreyn> RandyG71: remove some kernel images
[15:39] <strempo> if i install ubu minimal
[15:39] <dr_willis> alimj:  perhaps no one wanted to maintain it.. and we are not  canonical emplyees here
[15:40] <strempo> ?
[15:40] <xomniverse> dr_willis: Shell script worked like a charm, thanks! :)
[15:40]  * greys-hade is back (gone 00:11:25)
[15:40]  * greys-hade is away: PS3 or sleeping or something...
[15:40] <alimj> dr_willis: I was hopping someone might be!!!
[15:40] <tomreyn> !away > greys-hade
[15:41] <strempo> if i instal ubu 8.04 and then i upgrade it's ok?
[15:41] <dr_willis> alimj:  the forums or askubuntu.com or the package sites may give a clue why it was removed.
[15:41] <tdrusk> alimj: could you possibly install it from an older ubuntu repo?
[15:41] <dr_willis> strempo:  try it and see and tell us if it worked.. i would be suprised if it did
[15:41] <keyword> hi guys I have a problem I just get a new acer ultrabook m5-481t  and I installed ubuntu 12.10 so it has ellantech touchpad but I cant configure the SCROLL, just works left and rigth click anyone knows how can i configure this please??
[15:41] <alimj> tdrusk: No. I compiled it from source. It is OK.
[15:43] <RandyG71> I tried to rremove some kernals and also apport but i keep getting same error. Cannot remove because: linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-31-generic but it is not going to be installed
[15:44] <dr_willis> RandyG71:  that was not the same error you posted eralier.. ;)
[15:44] <RandyG71> it's part of the same error
[15:44] <RandyG71> didn't wanna flood
[15:44] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update recently?
[15:44] <RandyG71> yes
[15:44] <RandyG71> sudo apt-get update
[15:45] <RandyG71> oops wrong window - der
[15:45] <anonymous_> do you help me to hacking
[15:45] <Pici> RandyG71: can you pastebin the entire error message?
[15:45] <dr_willis> tried a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:45] <RandyG71> dr_willis - yes
[15:45] <dr_willis> anonymous_:  learn some real programing skills, not vague mass-media-fud terms like hacking
[15:45] <keyword> anyone can help me?
[15:46] <dr_willis> keyword:  with brand new/just came out devices - it may take some time befor the forums/kernels/devs get caught up with any potential new bugs. You have checked the forums and askubuntu.com?
[15:46] <Ca11umD> I'm trying Steam for Linux, but as I attempt to launch the game (Team Fortress 2), I get the error; Required OpenGL extension "GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode" is not supported. Please update your OpenGL driver.
[15:46] <Ca11umD> I've updated/upgraded everything and installed additional drivers. What else must I do to fix it?
[15:47] <dr_willis> !steam
[15:47] <keyword> dr_willis:  do you recommend me isntall 12.04 ?
[15:47] <dr_willis> keyword:  that would be even older version. so i would imagine have the same issues. You could test it with a live cd/dvd/flash
[15:48] <AbortD> one more question how do i speed up my mouse pointer?
[15:49] <Catbuntu> Hello
[15:49] <RandyG71> http://pastebin.com/0k8JtX2U
[15:50] <Catbuntu> RandyG71, why do you use sudo being root?
[15:50] <RandyG71> just used to it
[15:50] <RandyG71> I never type in putty
[15:50] <tomreyn> Ca11umD: what's the output of: glxinfo | grep ' render'
[15:51] <Ca11umD> tomreyn: glxinfo is not installed
[15:51] <alimj> RandG71: How much free space do you have in /boot? Is it in a separate partition?
[15:52] <RandyG71> ahhh....   /dev/sda1                  228M  220M     0 100% /boot
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> whammy
[15:53] <tomreyn> Ca11umD: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mesa-utils && ( glxinfo | grep ' render' && lspci -knnv | grep -A12 VGA) | pastebinit
[15:53] <tomreyn> Ca11umD: this should return a URL, please run the command and post it here
[15:53] <alimj> RandG71: To small for /boot. Please exand it...
[15:53] <RandyG71> how?
[15:54] <cba123> I have an mdadm softRAID5, with 6 drives, 4 active, and a spare.  The other failed.  I've read a few things that I can basically recreate the array with the spare drive, and not lose data.  My raid has /dev/sd[a-f]1, sdf1 failed, and sde1 is the spare. I found a command "mdadm --create /dev/md0 --assume-clean --level=5 --chunk=128 --raid-devices=6" but don't know the rest there. Can anyone help me finish this line to get my ra
[15:54] <cba123> id back up, without sdf (which I'll get tomorrow).
[15:54] <theadmin> RandyG71: GParted will help
[15:54] <alimj> theadmin: Agree with you...
[15:54] <Ca11umD> tomreyn: fglrxinfo returned version/renderer information, if that is helpful?
[15:55] <tomreyn> RandyG71: actually 220M should be enough, you really just need to remove some kernel images.
[15:55] <dr_willis> remove old kernels perhaps RandyG71  may be easier
[15:55] <RandyG71> I need to do it all from CLI since my ui will not load. This is a VM too
[15:55] <theadmin> RandyG71: You can (and should!) use a livecd for partition resizing anyways
[15:55] <alimj> tomreyn: Agree with you. Rand: However, do not delete them. Just move them to another partition
[15:56] <tomreyn> RandyG71: start with this to get a list of installed kernel images: dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^i
[15:57] <RandyG71> http://pastebin.com/SqVWjxYC
[15:57] <tomreyn> RandyG71: now which one are you running currently? uname -r
[15:57] <Guest95162> hello, for intel B970 what should i download x32 or x64?
[15:58] <RandyG71> 3.2.0-30-generic
[15:58] <theadmin> Guest95162: Is it a 64-bit processor?
[15:58] <SolarisBoy> Guest95162: 64
[15:58] <SolarisBoy> it's a 64bit proc
[15:58] <dcherniv> Guest95162, what is intel B970?
[15:58] <MangoBoy> .
[15:58] <d0tnet_> ping
[15:58] <Guest95162> Then i think 64 is the answer?
[15:59] <tomreyn> RandyG71: so I suggest you delete all but the current and the last but one then.
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> http://ark.intel.com/products/63915/Intel-Pentium-Processor-B970-2M-Cache-2_30-GHz |B970 specs
[15:59] <jay_why_bee> dr_willis: There is a thread about adding to the "30_os-prober" to allow you to ignore some partitions (or logical volumes, in my case).  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub2-skipping-one-partition-from-os-detection-741100/
[16:00] <RandyG71> ok so I ran: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[16:00] <RandyG71> to purge old kernals
[16:00] <RandyG71> but got errors
[16:00] <dcherniv> Guest95162, yes get 64 bit
[16:00] <AndrewMc> hi
[16:00] <Guest11008> hi
[16:01] <Guest11008> list
[16:01] <d0tnet_> wiwiwiwi
[16:02] <tomreyn> RandyG71: that's kind of a complex series of commands, do you know what it does?
[16:03] <RandyG71> I got it off a couple of reputable "how to" sites
[16:03] <d0tnet_> helpmee
[16:04] <alimj> Randy: Just sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic
[16:04] <alimj> Randy: Then: sudo update-grub2
[16:04] <tomreyn> RandyG71: maybe start with something more simple: sudo dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.38-1{0,1,2,3,5}-server
[16:05] <tomreyn> !ask d0tnet_
[16:05] <tomreyn> !ask | d0tnet_
[16:07] <tomreyn> Ca11umD: maybe also helpful, i don't know its output. is there a reason you don't want to install mesa-utils?
[16:08] <RandyG71> http://pastebin.com/V5H3V1rn
[16:10] <tomreyn> RandyG71: are you talking to alimj then? be sure to address the people you're talking to, so they will know.
[16:10] <Ca11umD> tomreyn, I just don't like cluttering up my computer with stuff I'll use once
[16:10] <RandyG71> oh, sorry
[16:10] <fellipe> hi. I am running 12.04 server and I have two interfaces with two internet links, and I have multipath rules. So I can switch between the links at anytime. But, I set dns-nameservers in each of interface configuration block, and the dns resolution is toooooo slow. I thought the kernel would query the proper dns wich belongs to that link of that specific interface. So how to solve it?
[16:11] <alimj> Randy: It is time for 'apt-get -f install' However; I suggest you to remove two more old kernels
[16:11] <tomreyn> Ca11umD: well you can just pruge it afterwards without any remainders. it's also a rather small package.
[16:11] <robertzaccour> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARsz9dX6_Do wow good video short but detailed. so true so true.
[16:13] <stobix> ehm. I can't install wine because wine1.4 has a bogus dependency on wine1.4-i386 (I have amd64). What do?
[16:13] <mooo> is there a way to search for a condition in vim, for example a letter, and add a word to the last line if matched?
[16:14] <d0tnet_> anyone got a good hit squid.conf ?
[16:15] <stobix> mooo: hmm, some :g trickery perhaps?
[16:15] <alimj> d0tnet_: What is the question? It has many available config options
[16:15] <tomreyn> fellipe: it's not the kernel querying the nameservers, it's applications / user space most of the time. and they will use either the glibc resolver or whatever is set in /etc/resolv.conf. if you have the resolvconf package installed this should allow for the dns-nameservers option in your interface configuration to be applied to /etc/resolv.conf (which is then a symbolic link)
[16:15] <bsnyder> i'm searching for an iso image of JeOS for use w/ VMware Fusion
[16:15] <mooo> stobix: I was thinking something along those lines
[16:15] <mooo> I was thinking something like :g/h/$/blah/g
[16:15] <mooo> but that didn't work.
[16:15] <bsnyder> but i see that ISO images of JeOS have been replaced by the vmbuilder script, but VMware is not supported
[16:16] <bsnyder> is there a solution here?
[16:16] <EagleScreen> Ubuntu turns off the screen after a while when I am watching a movie, even having configured it to turn off the screen never. I'd need some help to avoid this behaviour, please.
[16:17] <tomreyn> !ot > robertzaccour
[16:17] <fellipe> tomreyn, hi! interesting, but why it is happening when I have dns-nameservers in each config block? I commented out one of these two lines and now it is resolving quickly
[16:18] <mooo> anyone have any clue?
[16:18] <fellipe> tomreyn, and I already have the resolvconf installed
[16:18] <d0tnet_> alimj: to reduce tcp_miss . ?
[16:18] <stobix> mooo: :g/h/normal Giblah<ESC> perhaps?
[16:18] <stobix> mooo: alsa: :h :g :)
[16:18] <tomreyn> fellipe: i wouldn't know. i think it should work with different dns-nameservers in each block, as long as you can connect to those from both paths
[16:19] <tomreyn> fellipe: chances are you just had one nameserver in there which you can't actually query.
[16:19] <stobix> mooo: but skip the <ESC> part, it didn't work. :)
[16:19] <stobix> s/alsa/also/
[16:20] <stobix> mooo: hm, I don't know if you can get around it only matching lines, not characters, though. Right now you get one match for each line with a matching character...
[16:21] <tomreyn> fellipe: you can use the dig or host commands to directly query these nameservers while switched the the very  route you have configured them for, and see whether they respond (and how).
[16:21] <fellipe> tomreyn, god idea. I will  run ip route get <dns>
[16:24] <tomreyn> mooo: maybe a combination of grep and tee -a would help. admittedly that's not vim.
[16:25] <ironhoof> Hello, I have a 500GB GPT drive with EFI machine, I tried installing ubuntu on it, and I get a failure to boot, is there a simple way around this?
[16:29] <Sazpaimon> how can I make logrotate only compress files that are x days old
[16:29] <stobix> I don't get what's wrong with wine... If there is a wine-amd64 package, why would I need to install a 32-bit chroot to install wine? What gives?
[16:31] <Sazpaimon> stobix, wine has a 64 bit version, but I don't think it's packaged
[16:31] <Sazpaimon> the wine package installs the 32 bit version of wine, because the majority of windows applications are 32 bit
[16:32] <Sazpaimon> like I said, though, there does exist a native 64 bit version of wine, but that will only allow you to run 64 bit windows applications, unless you set up a wow64 environment, in which case you would still need the 32 bit compatability support packages
[16:33] <Guest59641> hi, finally got mATE Working, it is really good
[16:33] <theadmin> Sazpaimon: If you use PlayOnLinux, you can easily install extra versions of Wine without any trouble, including 64-bit ones
[16:33] <Guest59641> hi steve, its larry
[16:33] <stobix> Sazpaimon: Hm. Maybe the wine package on a 64-bit machine should try to do something else than trying to install a package that doesn't exist (wine-i386), and install a chroot first/instead?
[16:34] <stobix> Sazpaimon: anyways, thanks for the info. I guess I'll simply ignore the package manager brokenness for now.
[16:34] <Datz> Does anyone know if gnome-session-fallback has the ability to use widgets in the task/tool bars?
[16:34] <larry__> hi svt
[16:34] <Sazpaimon> theadmin, does wine64 actually work now? I havent used it in a long time
[16:35] <theadmin> Sazpaimon: I have no idea
[16:35] <fellipe> tomreyn, hi. I ran ip route get <dns server ip> and the kernel is using the same route to all the dns-servers ip ....  so how can I switch between dns-servers since it's no longer possible to use /etc/resolv.conf?
[16:36] <larry__> I know wine is meant to RUN a windows application, but how do you INSTALL a windows application, I would like to install my windows printer drive
[16:36] <fellipe> tomreyn, or I can set static route to each dns server ip...
[16:36] <Sazpaimon> larry__, a driver != an application
[16:37] <Sazpaimon> as for installing applications in wine, running the setup program should be sufficient
[16:37] <TheLordOfTime> larry__, a windows driver won't install on linux, even if you use Wine.
[16:37] <larry__> Sazpaimon,  atm i run a windows partition with the  printer software on it so boot between the two
[16:37] <Sazpaimon> if you want your printer to work in ubuntu, you'll need to install native linux drivers/modules for it
[16:38] <larry__> there isn't one, leastwise not one  that is usable
[16:38] <Sazpaimon> usually CUPS is sufficient for most printers
[16:38] <tomreyn> fellipe: sounds like your route switching doesn't work so well then.
[16:39] <fellipe> tomreyn, it is because I did not set static routes to dns servers
[16:39] <tomreyn> fellipe: okay, good to know it works then
[16:40] <Sazpaimon> anyway back to my question. How can I make logrotate only compress files that are  older than a certain time?
[16:40] <tomreyn> fellipe: i have little practical experience with multi path setups mysqlf, probably less than you.
[16:40] <larry__> nope, my epson has four ink cartridges and the cups manager does not know which cartridge has run out. all i know is it has stopped printing because one  cartridge has run out. guess which one is unsatisfactory as the wrongguess leaves you with open but unused cartridges
[16:40] <Datz> Does anyone know if gnome-session-fallback has the ability to use widgets in the task/tool bars?
[16:41] <theadmin> Datz: Sure. Right-clicking the panel no longer words, some weirdo thought it was a good idea to map the context menu to Ctrl+WinKey+RightClick
[16:41] <theadmin> Datz: But other than that, yeah
[16:41] <Datz> theadmin: sweetness. thanks
[16:41] <tomreyn> Sazpaimon: that's not really uspported by logrotate, i think. you could write a wrapper script for the compression command or do the compression yourself using the postrotate hook, though
[16:41] <Ja1> hello
[16:41] <Ja1> how can i find the external hard drive ID on linux ?
[16:41] <Ja1> lsusb ?
[16:42] <fellipe> tomreyn, ah, I don't think so! You all are gurus here.. I am just a newbie ;)
[16:42] <tomreyn> Ja1: blkid <DEVICE>
[16:42] <theadmin> Ja1: Depends on what you mean by ID
[16:42] <tomreyn> Ja1: that's if you mean the block device id
[16:43] <theadmin> Ja1: UUID? blkid is the best choice, or see the files in /dev/disk/by-uuid/ (they are symlinks to /dev/sd*)
[16:43] <Ja1> theadmin im trying to run a backup script
[16:43] <Ja1> which doesnt let me run because of the wrong Id
[16:44] <Ja1> ERROR: The mounted backup drive was not properly identified with id file "gatekeeper_backup_drive"
[16:44] <tomreyn> fellipe: well a multi-homes link setup is kind of advanced, i'd say. ;-)
[16:44] <tomreyn> *homed
[16:44] <fellipe> tomreyn, sure, and it works like a charm ;)
[16:44] <Sazpaimon> tomreyn, well for now I can juse use delaycompress, and that will only compress the files from 2 runs ago right?
[16:45] <tomreyn> fellipe: that's pretty nice indeed.
[16:45] <bjrohan> I am looking for some help in settng up rysnc over my home network using ssh, can anyone here verify my command to make sure it will do what I want?  I have ssh with rsa keys set up already
[16:45] <tomreyn> Sazpaimon: delaycompress just changes the order in which logrotate does things during a run.
[16:45] <Ja1> tomreyn any idea ?
[16:46] <fellipe> tomreyn, yeah. so thanks!
[16:46] <dcherniv> bjrohan, why bother with ssh?
[16:46] <tomreyn> Ja1: we still don't know what "ID" refers to
[16:46] <dcherniv> bjrohan, just setup an rsync daemon
[16:46] <Datz> theadmin: that doesn't seemt to be working for me.
[16:47] <Datz> ctrl+win+ right click
[16:47] <theadmin> Datz: Or was it Ctrl+Alt+Win+right click...
[16:47] <theadmin> Datz: Try that, it was some crazy combo
[16:47] <Datz> hehe
[16:48] <Datz> theadmin: win+alt+right click. Thanks very much :)
[16:48] <Ja1>  backup_drive_id - A file named this must exist in the root of the backup
[16:48] <Ja1> # drive to designate it as a "real" backup drive. We do not want to accidently
[16:48] <Ja1> # back up to a local directory!
[16:49] <dell> slt
[16:49] <Ja1> tomreyn ?
[16:49] <tomreyn> Ja1: yes?
[16:50] <Ja1> # SCRIPT variables...
[16:50] <Ja1> # backup_drive_id - A file named this must exist in the root of the backup
[16:50] <Ja1> # drive to designate it as a "real" backup drive. We do not want to accidently
[16:50] <Ja1> # back up to a local directory!
[16:50] <Ja1> backup_drive_id
[16:50] <FloodBot1> Ja1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:50] <stobix> haha, gotta love the fuzzy completion of zsh! :) ababuboba<tab> -> baobab
[16:50] <theadmin> stobix: lol, neat
[16:50] <Ja1> tomreyn backup_drive_id
[16:50] <Ja1> any idea which one could be >?
[16:51] <tomreyn> Ja1: i don't know this backup script, so i can't help you, sorry. also got to go for a while.
[16:52] <CyberGlitch> anyone in here used cobbler and Ubuntu with success?
[16:54] <linuxthefish> where is httpd.conf located in ubuntu?
[16:54] <linuxthefish> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty
[16:55] <llutz> linuxthefish: debian/ubuntu use apache2.conf
[16:57] <CyberGlitch> i have cobbler installed and ubuntu 11.04 added but it fails trying to find a cdrom
[16:59] <linuxthefish> ty
[16:59] <linuxthefish> and how do i stop upstart-socket-bridge from running? it uses a lot of ram
[17:00] <IdleOne> CyberGlitch: 11.04 is no longer supported, its EOL
[17:01] <CyberGlitch> ok, 12.10 is giving me the same issue
[17:06] <KI4RO> .
[17:11] <mrhyde> hi is there any careers prior to anything linux related?
[17:12] <dcherniv> mrhyde, que?
[17:13] <Misbehavist> o/
[17:14] <mrhyde> dcherniv: como sabes que hablo español? :O !!!!!
[17:14] <dcherniv> mrhyde, nah, english :)
[17:14] <BluesKaj> mrhyde: this isn't the channel for your question , google "redhat enterprise"
[17:14] <Misbehavist> :\
[17:15] <Misbehavist> es mui?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> !es | mrhyde
[17:15] <Misbehavist> porke no?
[17:15] <mrhyde> lol ok
[17:16] <swift94> well ... you could work developing for companies that make linux... or try developing for steam... :)
[17:16] <RandyG71> for those that gave me some direction earlier....thank you. I ended up cleaing up logs with webmin then some cli work and now i can upgrade
[17:17] <vitimiti> (·.·)/
[17:17] <dcherniv> mrhyde, or work as a sysadmin
[17:18] <Misbehavist> At its peak (Saturday) it looks like most west facing breaks in SoCal will see surf running head high to 2' overhead.
[17:18] <Misbehavist> \o/
[17:18] <IdleOne> This channel is for Ubuntu support. Try jobs.com if you are looking for work.
[17:18] <DJones> Misbehavist: How is that related to Ubuntu support?
[17:19] <dcherniv> if you take all the elephants on earth and line them up from here to the moon... They will all die because there's no air
[17:19] <dcherniv> ^little known scientific fact
[17:19] <Misbehavist> dcherniv: i doubt there are that many of them left
[17:19] <Misbehavist> DJones: STOP
[17:19] <Misbehavist> monkey!
[17:20] <Misbehavist> wtf is your problem
[17:23] <Terriblist> sup
[17:23] <beaky> hello
[17:23] <Terriblist> jesus its like the same 4 people in al chanels
[17:23] <sitwon> is this the right channel to get help with installing proprietary nvidia drivers in 12.10?
[17:24] <Terriblist> sitwon: i can help
[17:24] <beaky> are thre alternativesto the unity shell?
[17:24] <Terriblist> sitwon: do you want to install drivers from nvidias website
[17:24] <Terriblist> thats what i use
[17:24] <Terriblist> its awesome
[17:24] <swift94> well if you mean deskop environments .. there are  beaky
[17:24] <xangua> beaky: kde, xfce, lxde, gnome-shell, lots of
[17:25] <sitwon> Terriblist: I have a GTX 660 Ti card, I just installed a fresh copy of 12.10 for 64-bit. I've tried to install nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates but neither one seems to work properly
[17:25] <Terriblist> yeah dont use those
[17:25] <swift94> enlightenment, openbox ... and a few others
[17:25] <beaky> how do I install one of those alternative shells
[17:25] <Terriblist> all the linux drivers are a mess
[17:25] <beaky> which one is the most lightweight
[17:25] <swift94> they should be available in the repos
[17:25] <beaky> ah thanks
[17:25] <swift94> oh ... probably lxde
[17:25] <Terriblist> sitwon: go download from nvidia
[17:25] <sitwon> :-/
[17:25] <sitwon> ok
[17:26] <Terriblist> get the latest linux driver for your card
[17:26] <beaky> alright I've downloaded gnome-shell. how do I switch to it :D
[17:26] <rumpel> beaky, log out, choose gnome-shell, log in..
[17:26] <swift94> once you log out, you then have the option to switch desktop environments
[17:27] <swift94> it should be on the top right hand corner of the login window on ubuntu
[17:27] <swift94> as n image
[17:28] <swift94> also ... it may not look exactly the same as a distro with the DE installed by default
[17:29] <beaky> wow
[17:29] <beaky> it worked! thanks
[17:29] <swift94> np
[17:29] <beaky> it looks too ubuntuish
[17:29] <swift94> gnome 3 ?
[17:29] <beaky> gnome classic :D
[17:29] <beaky> also how do I uninstall amazo
[17:29] <beaky> amazon*
[17:30] <IdleOne> !adlens
[17:30] <beaky> ah thank
[17:30] <beaky> thanks*
[17:30] <darshan> beaky: change to gnome instead of gnome classic
[17:31] <beaky> is gnome gnome-3?
[17:31] <Abhijit> yes
[17:31] <beaky> ah gnome 3 (and unity) runs too slow on my machine :(
[17:32] <swift94> one last thing ... gnome classic (dont quote me) is not being supported ... it still works, but no advancements are beign made
[17:32] <beaky> ah
[17:32] <beaky> so I should switch to xfce then
[17:32] <darshan> beaky: gnome classic looks more or less the same as unity
[17:32] <Terriblist> beaky: whats your q?
[17:33] <swift94> personally I like kde because of the customizability, but then again it depends on your specs
[17:33] <beaky> I wanted to switch my graphical shell to something less resource-intensive than unity
[17:33] <beaky> and my options were gnome-classic, xfce, lxde, and some others
[17:33] <beaky> KDE's nice, but it is quite heavy :D
[17:34] <Terriblist> beaky: use gnome 2
[17:34] <Terriblist> thats why im not using debian7
[17:34] <beaky> ah
[17:34] <Terriblist> they ruined it with gnome4
[17:34] <beaky> gnome4...
[17:34] <swift94> well .. kde is still underneath as far as ram.... but yes .. i guess it is heavy ... it runs several programs in the background....
[17:34] <Terriblist> idiots
[17:34] <swift94> gnome 4?
[17:34] <Terriblist> gnome3 jeesh im kidding
[17:35] <Terriblist> relax nerdds
[17:35] <beaky> I dislike gnome 3
[17:35] <Terriblist> i hate gnome3
[17:35] <swift94> lol... the world is melting!!!
[17:35] <beaky> yeah today is the apocalypse
[17:35] <swift94> .. gnome 3 is ok for me...
[17:35] <Terriblist> why did they try to copy unity
[17:35] <beaky> they are experimenting with new user experiences
[17:35] <Terriblist> gnome3 would be ok if they allowed to make it look like gnom3
[17:35] <Terriblist> 2
[17:36] <Terriblist> beaky: it also depends on your video drivers and your os
[17:36] <beaky> ah
[17:36] <Blask> can i install gnome2 on my ubuntu12.10?
[17:36] <Terriblist> for example debian7 w nvidia.run drivers and gnome3 runs
[17:36] <beaky> my OS is arch GNU/Linux
[17:36] <Terriblist> as fast as gnome2
[17:37] <beaky> I'm running ubuntu in a VM
[17:37] <swift94> arch ... dang
[17:37] <Terriblist> i know linux mint didnt work that great
[17:37] <swift94> ive wanted to do that or a while
[17:37] <Terriblist> yeah the whole linux world is falling appart w all this gnome bs
[17:37] <Terriblist> everyone is complaining online
[17:38] <Terriblist> glad i have debian6
[17:38] <rumpel> Terriblist, I'm not complaining, so you're statement is false.
[17:38] <Terriblist> rumpel: you are special
[17:38] <maslo> hi guys I'm having issues figuring out how to fix postfix to make it accept external emails, I keep playing with smtpd_recipient_restrictions with different parameter and it ends up bouncing or saying server configuration error if anyone could help me out that would be appreciated
[17:39] <swift94> .. yeah ... honestly ... they should have stuck wiht the gnome 2 layout and changed metacity or compiz
[17:39] <swift94> sorry ... dont know it maslo
[17:40] <SolarisB1y> maslo: post your postfix conf and the error message to pastebin
[17:40] <maslo> one second
[17:43] <sitwon> Terriblist: still having problems. I try to run the script and it complains that X is running... ok, I swtich to VT1 and stop lightdm. now it complains I'm using the neuvau driver. I let it blacklist the neuvau driver, but then I can't get back to VT1
[17:44] <SUCK_MY_DICK> hi
[17:45] <IdleOne> Please change your nick
[17:45] <SUCK_MY_DICK> eh, I like this nick
[17:45] <maslo> http://pastebin.com/Uvp7Cudf SolarisB1y, just to mention that I am far from understanding postfix that much it is the basic configurations that I changed a little I'm just trying to set up a piping to a php script but first I need to figure out how to receive external emails :X I'm a web developper trying to understand sysadministration/ubuntu more by hosting myself
[17:46] <Terriblist> sitwon: you have to uninstall everything nvidia
[17:46] <maslo> right now it bounces with In:  RCPT TO:<asd@mathzx.com>  Out: 451 4.3.5 Server configuration error
[17:46] <maslo> well not bounce but I get a message from my vps with the transcript of the session
[17:47] <sitwon> Terriblist: I did, but nevermind. I figured out that VT1 was showing up on my onboard graphics instead of on the Nvidia card. I just had to switch the plug
[17:47] <Terriblist> sitwon: http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/debian-linux/install-nvidia-proprietary-unix-driver/
[17:47] <Terriblist> follow those steps exactly
[17:47] <Terriblist> and youll have it working
[17:48] <SolarisB1y> maslo: the mail server you are on responds to mathzx.com and is the mx for the domain?
[17:49] <maslo> the domain mx is set right
[17:49] <Terriblist> sitwon: ur even gona have a cool nvidia logo on startup
[17:51] <SolarisB1y> maslo: send the postfix logs please and look for "asd"
[17:53] <llutz> maslo: "mydestination = mathzx.com, localhost.com, , localhost"     <- do you really own "localhost.com"?
[17:53] <maslo> lol no but it was there by default
[17:54] <maslo> I assumed it was meant to be that way
[17:54] <llutz> maslo: that is a registered domain, remove it
[17:54] <maslo> doing so right now
[17:54] <Terriblist> sitwon: make sure you anwer all the steps corectly in the .run
[17:54] <Rage> I need some help with my computer
[17:55] <Rage> I recently installed 12.04 on my ubuntu and I'm not really that pleased with it
[17:56]  * dr_willis never knows if he should ask for details.. or of the person is just taking the time to actually type in details....
[17:56] <Rage> The only way to "downgrade" my ubuntu is to reinstall it right?
[17:57] <dr_willis> correct rage
[17:57] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[17:57] <maslo> that's the main.log until the last postfix reload, http://pastebin.com/fhA5CmUm
[17:57] <dr_willis> you could try 12.10
[17:57] <maslo> mail.log*
[17:57] <maslo> and that's what I get from my vps http://pastebin.com/LsXECgqJ
[17:57] <Rage> if I reinstall ubuntu it won't keep my applications and stuff will it?
[17:58] <smkatz> hi guys. I'm  a lot smarter than I was last night. I've mastered a bunch of this web server/drupal stuff. still have some questions. so, when configuring packages, I have to input the mysql password for database creation, and I installed phpmyadmin but when I go to phpmyadmin/setup in a web browser, I'm not sure what the username should be
[17:58] <dr_willis> Rage:  of course not. a reinstall  erases everything
[17:58] <smkatz> Rage, why are you downgrading, first of all?
[17:58] <smkatz> are you having some problem we could help you fix?
[17:58] <Rage> I have so far found several errors in python and other apps
[17:58] <Terriblist> smkatz: download navicat
[17:59] <Rage> navicat?
[17:59] <DJones> Rage: Have you reported them as bugs?
[17:59] <Terriblist> how can you even use phpmyadmin lol
[17:59] <maslo> smkatz have you tried root?
[17:59] <smkatz> yes that's the strange part I have tried root
[17:59] <Rage> actually I haven't
[17:59] <smkatz> what does navicat do?
[17:59] <smkatz> *looks it up*
[18:00] <Rage> Is there any way I could use Pytivo on 12.04?
[18:00] <Terriblist> its a mysql gui tool
[18:00] <DJones> Rage: Thats the best way of helping to get them fixed, if nobody reports them,  the developers won't know about them
[18:01] <smkatz> terriblist is it OSS?
[18:01] <Terriblist> no
[18:01] <smkatz> not obvious
[18:01] <Terriblist> but you can get the light version
[18:01] <Terriblist> and you need wine
[18:01] <smkatz> and how does it specifically address my problem? to be clear, I'm not scared of the command line,
[18:02] <Terriblist> but its the best tool for mysql
[18:02] <smkatz> I just wanted to simulate a web host
[18:02] <smkatz> because I'm mentoring someone
[18:02] <Terriblist> you can use command line sql but its alot less eficient
[18:02] <zgr> any sed wizards online? I need to replace each first char on line in file1(has 1299 lines) with each char from  file2 (has 1299 chars)
[18:02] <Rage> !pytivo
[18:02] <Terriblist> what do you mean simulate lol
[18:03] <Terriblist> linux ie ubuntu IS the BEST web host
[18:03] <smkatz> I mean I want to teach them phpmyadmin
[18:03] <Terriblist> google runs on debian servers
[18:03] <Terriblist> oh
[18:03] <smkatz> I installed it using apt-get install phpmyadmin
[18:03] <smkatz> it prompted me to create a database
[18:03] <smkatz> I did
[18:03] <Rage> Djones? does PyTivo work on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:04] <smkatz> I can access the phpmyadmin login page
[18:04] <Terriblist> smkatz install mysql workbench then
[18:04] <Terriblist> its free and its native to linux
[18:04] <dr_willis> zgr:  you going to be doing this a lot? or just once?
[18:04] <DJones> Rage: Its not something I've heard of
[18:04] <Terriblist> phpmyadmin is horible
[18:04] <Rage> Oh.
[18:04] <DJones> !find PyTivo
[18:04] <Terriblist> also if you put phpmyadmin on your resume
[18:04] <Rage> well it runs on python and ffmpeg
[18:04] <Terriblist> ppl will run
[18:04] <Terriblist> from you
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> maslo: is the user/alias setup properly?
[18:05] <DJones> Rage: Looks like its not part of the repositories
[18:05] <Rage> hmm
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Rage:  I used pytivo up until 11.10 and it worked well
[18:05] <Terriblist> *DO NOT: put phpmyadmin on your resume
[18:05] <SolarisB1y> lol
[18:05] <n0sq> i don't know who to talk to but something needs to be done to fix emesene or amsn or firefox or all of them or whichever is the actual problem - i'm not sure of what happened but now my wife can no longer access her hotmail account  unless she closes emesene (ubuntu 12.04) AND logs out of hotmail in firefox - then she can log into hotmail and then access her mail but can't open any mail
[18:05] <Rage> it is a third party app
[18:05] <maslo> SolarisB1y: how would I go about looking for that? like I mentioned I don't know much about postfix
[18:05] <maslo> and ubuntu lol
[18:06] <smkatz> maslo
[18:06] <Terriblist> smkatz: install mysql workbench
[18:06] <smkatz> you looking to configure postfix?
[18:06] <maslo> yeah
[18:06] <llutz> maslo: check your main.cf again "Dec 21 21:32:47 mathzx postfix/smtpd[9798]: warning: unknown smtpd restriction: "check_relay_domain""
[18:06] <sitwon> ok, so I have the proprietary drivers installed and working. and now I have Steam installed
[18:06] <sitwon> wasn't L4D2 ported to Linux?
[18:06] <maslo> llutz: checking right now
[18:06] <DJones> Rage: You probably need to check with the 3rd party developer, they're most likely to be able to help
[18:06] <SolarisB1y> yea was going to mention your relay_domains is balnk also
[18:06]  * n0sq doesn't know if trying a different distro will fix the problem
[18:07] <SolarisB1y> but the error comes on the RCPT TO command
[18:07] <Rage> I'm looking for an irc chatroom for pytivo right now
[18:07] <smkatz> terriblist, I'm really just trying to install drupal
[18:07] <dr_willis> !alis
[18:07] <astra05> hey guys
[18:07] <maslo> relayhost should be what SolarisB1y?
[18:07] <Terriblist> smkatz: so whats the problem
[18:07] <smkatz> I created several databases during this process via db_common
[18:07] <Terriblist> drupal is very friendly
[18:07] <zgr> dr_willis: i need it for tesseract-ocr training. I print some text, scan it, parse scan with tesseract and after that need to fix each char, so I wanted to do it with sed but I don't know it(
[18:07] <smkatz> but the drupal auto-installer failed
[18:07] <smkatz> apt-get install drupal7
[18:08] <smkatz> so I am installing it manually
[18:08] <astra05> does anyone know anything about install ubuntu on arm a8 laptops?
[18:08] <smkatz> and i am to the point of creating the database
[18:08] <astra05> like the Avatar AVRA-138A1
[18:08] <smkatz> but I've already created some
[18:08] <dr_willis> zgr:  i think you will need more then sed. most likely awk can do it.  the #bash guys may know better ways. You could almost do it with just bash and the cut/paste commands.. but been years since i last used them
[18:08] <smkatz> so I want to see if I can use or delete those
[18:08] <dr_willis> zgr:  awk definatly shoul dbe able to do it
[18:08] <smkatz> I figured i would setup phpmyadmin at the same time
[18:08] <zgr> dr_willis: thanks will google that way
[18:09] <BluesKaj> Rage: http://pytivo.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Install
[18:09] <maslo> llutz / SolarisB1y removed the delay thingy and gets this in the bounced message : The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1
[18:09] <Terriblist> smkatz: but why
[18:09] <llutz> maslo: where do you have the "check_relay_domains" from? wasn't it replaced long time ago by "reject_unauth_destination"
[18:09] <Terriblist> you are just wasting your time
[18:10] <willem> hi, has anyone here managed to install nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu 12.10 and still have a desktop environment left afterwards?
[18:10] <maslo> llutz lol from outdated tutorials I'm assuming
[18:10] <mohamedalaa98> Hi guys :D how can I get my application in USC?
[18:10] <dr_willis> willemvds:  the nvidia drivers work for most people.
[18:10] <llutz> maslo: you shouldn't use those. get actual ones from postfix.org or ubuntu.forums
[18:11] <smkatz> terribist, what do you think I should do?
[18:11] <smkatz> create a new database from the command line
[18:11] <Terriblist> sure
[18:11] <SolarisB1y> the postfix basic configuration is pretty straight forward
[18:11] <Terriblist> or use mysql workbench
[18:11] <SolarisB1y> on postfix.org that is
[18:11] <willemvds> dr_willis: i tried installing it through ubuntu additional drivers, then myself, then using ubuntuextreme script - no luck either way
[18:12] <nookk> hi
[18:12] <Terriblist> learn to connect a mysql tool to the database
[18:12] <SolarisB1y> http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[18:12] <willemvds> friend of mine also tried it at work and also had issues
[18:12] <Terriblist> instaead of installing a mysql web tool on your website
[18:12] <Terriblist> because its tarded
[18:13] <smkatz> why will mysql workbench work any better than phpmyadmin?
[18:13] <nookk> ubuntu 8.04.4 is good or not?
[18:13] <Terriblist> yes
[18:13] <Terriblist> because
[18:13] <Terriblist> omg
[18:13] <smkatz> look. I can't login to the setup page
[18:13] <smkatz> this tells me that the mysql password and username don't appear to be correct
[18:14] <smkatz> or it's not connected correctly as you say
[18:14] <nookk> Terriblist, the answer was for me?
[18:14] <smkatz> do you know how to fix this?
[18:14] <Terriblist> smkatz: can you access your mysql ?
[18:14] <Terriblist> in shell
[18:15] <dcherniv> smkatz, mysql -u root -p
[18:16] <Terriblist> now were talking
[18:16] <dr_willis> willemvds:  most likely depends on the chipset.
[18:16] <smkatz> this should also help
[18:16] <dr_willis> willemvds:  my 5 nvidia systems worked with no issues.
[18:16] <smkatz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[18:16] <willemvds> i have 560ti
[18:16] <smkatz> I think I did set a password terriblist
[18:17] <dcherniv> smkatz, setting phpmyadmin facing outside world is stupid.
[18:17] <smkatz> dccherniv, don't worry
[18:18] <maslo> actually llutz I got the check relay from mail.log ' fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit'
[18:18] <dcherniv> smkatz, im not worried its not my install :)
[18:18] <gmachine_24> so.....my docs folder is 400mb... I have several back ups including one online, which, of course, I really don't trust - but the data is 256-bit encrypted. my ? is I want to back up the data to a thumb drive using truecrypt to create a partition on the jump drive. I can't think of any reason not to do this - but thought I'd ask here first. Sorry this was so long.
[18:19] <michael0243> gmachine_24: That sounds pretty straightforward and doable
[18:19] <gmachine_24> michael0243, that's what I think. But, you know . . . there always seems to be something . . . but thanks for the input. :)
[18:20] <michael0243> gmachine_24: basically any storage drive in linux is the same thing(with some abstraction in there) so you can do pretty much anything on any type of storage that you want if you can do it on others
[18:20] <pbxbrian> Hi Hi
[18:21] <pbxbrian> quick bit of help with a dependency issue please?
[18:21] <pbxbrian> I'm running 12.04
[18:21] <pbxbrian> trying to install a package and I'm getting Depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1) but it is not installable
[18:21] <Terriblist> smkatz: forget phpmyadmin
[18:21] <Terriblist> its not going to help you do anything
[18:21] <smkatz> dcherniv, how do I take appropriate precautions?
[18:21] <pbxbrian> but perl5.14.2 is installed
[18:21] <smkatz> lots of people do install it....
[18:21] <pbxbrian> how do I get around this...?
[18:21] <Terriblist> smkatz: !!!
[18:22] <Terriblist> do you need to reset your mysql root pass
[18:22] <Terriblist> i can help you do that
[18:22] <gmachine_24> michael0243, ok, thanks. I am a 99 percent Linux person but still keep a dozer around for scanning....
[18:22] <dcherniv> smkatz, dont use phpmyadmin
[18:22] <smkatz> Terriblist, look I'm new. sorry, I don't mean to be ignoring you
[18:22] <smkatz> ok.
[18:22] <smkatz> how do I remove it?
[18:22] <Terriblist> why does he think phpmyadmin will fix his stuff?????
[18:22] <Terriblist> :()
[18:22] <Terriblist> :O
[18:22] <smkatz> I don't think it will.
[18:23] <smkatz> I'm aware my problem is deeper than PHPMyAdmin
[18:23] <dcherniv> smkatz, i cant count the number of times people's sites were infected through phpmyadmin in my practice
[18:23] <michael0243> pbxbrian: sudo apt-get install libperl ?
[18:23] <smkatz> ok. good to know
[18:23] <Detox_at_Work> please help... I installed ubuntu and it created a home folder 75% of HD  can I adjust now, keeping the HD intact or must I reinstall fresh
[18:23] <dcherniv> smkatz, whats the problem you're having anywayt
[18:23] <smkatz> tell me how to remove it
[18:23] <pbxbrian> michael0243: if only it was that easy :)
[18:23] <pbxbrian> libperl 5.14.2 is installed
[18:23] <pbxbrian> but this package is looking for libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.1)
[18:24] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, you can change the partition sizes
[18:24] <smkatz> dcherniv, I'm trying to cleanup. I ran the drupal auto-installer
[18:24] <smkatz> it failed
[18:24] <Detox_at_Work> I only have 1 partition
[18:24] <smkatz> I need to get rid of that database
[18:24] <pbxbrian> 5.14.2 is >= 5.10.1
[18:24] <Detox_at_Work> 1 hd
[18:24] <pbxbrian> grrrrrrrrrr
[18:24] <n0sq> apparently, i can only access hotmail with windows now
[18:24] <smkatz> and also remove phpmyadmin
[18:24] <michael0243> detox_at_work: use parted. It is a GUI to do that. Pretty simple. Good a tutorial. MAKE BACKUPS!
[18:24] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, so then what is the problem?
[18:24] <n0sq> grrrrrr, also
[18:24] <smkatz> n0sq
[18:24] <smkatz> how are you trying to access hotmail?
[18:24] <smkatz> through a web browser?
[18:24] <Detox_at_Work> I am using it for big blue button server
[18:24] <smkatz> or a client? (thunderbird)
[18:24] <michael0243> pbxbrian: that shouldn't happen. Interesting
[18:25] <n0sq> smkatz: with amsn or emesene
[18:25] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, so then what is the problem????????????????????????
[18:25] <Detox_at_Work> and once I iinstalled it,, HD is shown as full
[18:25] <Terriblist> wow
[18:25] <dcherniv> smkatz, login to mysql as root
[18:25] <Detox_at_Work> i have to shrink the home folder
[18:25] <dcherniv> smkatz, mysql -uroot -p
[18:25] <dcherniv> smkatz, drop database DRUPALDATABASE
[18:25] <Terriblist> mysql -u root -p
[18:25] <n0sq> smkatz: but, when i manually login with the browser the links to the mailbox don't work
[18:25] <Detox_at_Work> there is only 1 partition on the hd
[18:25] <hsnmck> I just installed xubuntu and I chosen to encrypt my home folder.. I'm trying to change enter my passphrase but it's giving me Error: Unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]. Is there a way to change the passphrase ? I'm logged in!
[18:26] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, if your home folder is just a folder you can't shrink the size... unless it's on a separate partition...... I think
[18:26] <pbxbrian> I think the easiest solution to this problem is debian squeeze
[18:26] <smkatz> can I list the databases on the system?
[18:26] <Terriblist> dcherniv: he cant lol
[18:26] <smkatz> using mysql?
[18:26] <dcherniv> smkatz, drop user DRUPALUSER
[18:26] <Detox_at_Work> yes
[18:26] <michael0243> detox_at_work: then your hard drive isn't big enough assuming your partition is as big as the hard drive.
[18:26] <smkatz> ok. I have the information I need
[18:26] <Detox_at_Work> is 250 gig hd
[18:26] <Terriblist> smkatz: are you in mysql now?
[18:26] <n0sq> smkatz: but, the links work when i use IE
[18:26] <michael0243> detox_at_work: so that means you have 75% of 250gig used.
[18:26] <Detox_at_Work> fresh install of ubuntu and 1 prog that fits on a pen drive
[18:26] <Terriblist> can you type: show databases;
[18:26] <n0sq> i guess i should try konquerer
[18:26] <dcherniv> smkatz, show databases; will list dbs
[18:27] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, why do you want to shrink the size of the home folder?
[18:27] <Detox_at_Work> is not needed
[18:27] <guest-PGlwoz> a
[18:27] <smkatz> alright, you guys great
[18:27] <smkatz> thanks
[18:27] <Detox_at_Work> software is in /opt and /var
[18:27] <Terriblist> dcherniv: lol
[18:27] <Terriblist> smkatz: is so LOL
[18:27] <Detox_at_Work> there is nothing in home folder either
[18:27] <dcherniv> heh
[18:27] <Detox_at_Work> 1 help deoc i created that is mayby 50k
[18:27] <gmachine_24> Detox_at_Work, well then it's not taking up much space
[18:27] <gmachine_24> :)
[18:28] <Detox_at_Work> yes
[18:28] <smkatz> Terriblist: my ubuntu system isn't fully functional yet, so I'm getting advice from another computer
[18:28] <michael0243> detox_at_work: go get us a sudo parted -l pastebin
[18:28] <smkatz> n0sq
[18:28] <Detox_at_Work> but when I look at gui or nf -s it shows hd = 100 full
[18:28] <smkatz> are you getting an error message when you access hotmail?
[18:28] <Terriblist> jesus smkatz
[18:28] <Detox_at_Work> and shows /home as using all the space
[18:28] <Terriblist> how much problemz do u haz?
[18:28] <michael0243> detox_at_work: nf?
[18:28] <Terriblist> all at once
[18:28] <smkatz> Terriblist, not very many
[18:29] <gmachine_24> he's making my head hurt
[18:29] <smkatz> but the screen resolution isn't right... :-)
[18:29] <Detox_at_Work> ok will hve to go across to other pc logging out of this now
[18:29] <smkatz> I know, I know
[18:29] <smkatz> bb when I get my head examined
[18:29] <maslo> SolarisB1y / llutz should I just uninstall postfix and the configurations and just install everything again to get the basic default conf and start from there?
[18:30] <Terriblist> argh stupid floats
[18:30] <Terriblist> i minus int from float and what hapenz?
[18:30] <llutz> maslo:make a copy of your configs, then" sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix"
[18:31] <mom_> hi need help regarding wireless driver
[18:31] <gmachine_24> mom_ can you tell us what the problem is?
[18:32] <Terriblist> no moms allowed
[18:32] <Terriblist> --------------------->
[18:32] <PDun> I know this is blasphemy, but does anyone know how to make a bootable thumb drive for windows 2000 within Ubuntu?
[18:32] <mom_> acutally installed zorin
[18:32] <mom_> and my wireless driver is not detecting
[18:33] <Sven_vB> PDun, i'd try dosbox (package name)
[18:33] <gmachine_24> mom_ you mean your wireless card isn't being recognized...........??
[18:33] <mom_> yes u r right
[18:33] <DJones> mom_: We don't support zorin, its not an official version of ubuntu
[18:33] <xangua> mom_: ask in the zorin support channel, forum, mail list, wathever they yse ;)
[18:33] <mom_> theres windows wireless driver app
[18:34] <mom_> i tried that but
[18:34] <mom_> its doesnt respond and hangs
[18:34] <DJones> mom_: zorin isn't supported here
[18:34] <mom_> oho ok
[18:35] <mom_> i heard it had similar issue in ubuntu also that y i asked
[18:35] <mitico08> ciao a tutti
[18:35] <mitico08> !
[18:35] <Terriblist> PDun: download win2000 iso
[18:35] <Terriblist> burn it on usb with unetbootin
[18:35] <gmachine_24> mom_ did you go here http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ZorinOS&uio=OT10cnVlJjExPTIxNQ6c
[18:36] <mitico08> list
[18:38] <PDun> Terriblist - I have an iso
[18:38] <Terriblist> so burn it
[18:38] <n0sq> looks like i found my hotmail problem - i'm using a ghostery plugin - when i disable it i can get into hotmail - strange that i didn't have this problem with the ghostery plugin for IE
[18:38] <PDun> Thanks that's what I was looking for knew I had done it like 12 years ago:-)
[18:38] <smkatz> n0sq glad I can help with something...
[18:39] <newroad> hello, I'm been using Remmina to connect to my company's RDP servers, but they've recently changed the default ports of the RDP servers for security reasons. Is there a way I can can change the port that Remmina connects to a specific server on?
[18:39] <n0sq> smkatz: i don't remember you suggesting a plugin problem
[18:39] <smkatz> terriblist switching to linux box now. will read documentation extensively, and come back when I am using linux box irc client
[18:39] <smkatz> n0sq it was sarcasm.
[18:39] <Terriblist> k
[18:39] <smkatz> self-deprecating humor
[18:40] <mom_> thanks gmachine_24
[18:41] <snapdragon_> yeahhhh
[18:42] <khayes_> I only found a wiki guide for installing 10.04 on a MacBook Pro 5,3. Is it likely I could start there and upgrade to 12?
[18:42] <nullby7e> i need DVD image of actual version by ubuntu?
[18:43] <dcherniv> khayes_, you should be able to grab the latest ubuntu and install that
[18:43] <Guest3086> hi room
[18:44] <nullby7e> is there a only cd image for download?
[18:44] <khayes_> dcherniv: Ok, great. Will I have any issues dual booting with my setup? I have a SSD as my system drive and a normal HDD as a secondary but the boot record is on the secondary iirc
[18:47] <Alumin> anybody know where I can find a template on pinning a specific package (or packages) from a given source?  (a PPA, for example)
[18:48] <Alumin> I think I've almost got it, but I'm not quite sure on the syntax.  I don't know if I can use origin since I can't match on just the hostname (all PPAs have the same hostname)
[18:51] <dr_willis> !pin
[18:51] <dr_willis> ive rarely needed to use pinning
[18:55] <[snake]> So I got ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, coming from 32 bit. and now 3d graphics are really really horrible. The funny thing is that I can use anything else on my computer, and it's totally fast while the 3d graphics are running. why are they so slow does anyone have any thoughts? my processor is also not even using it's full capability...
[18:55] <\\Mr_C\\> is there a place that has each linux kernel generic binary already compiled?
[18:56] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, no
[18:56] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, binary kernels are distribution-specific
[18:56] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, there's no "generic" kernel
[18:56] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[18:56] <\\Mr_C\\> sigh
[18:56] <[snake]> i have majora's mask running at 1 frame per second.
[18:57] <\\Mr_C\\> takes so long to compile
[18:57] <[snake]> yet, my computer is running fine besides that.
[18:57] <[snake]> \\Mr_C\\, just set it to compile then go to work/school and it will be half done when you get back.
[18:57] <dcherniv> \\Mr_C\\, not really, over here with modules i need it takes about 30 minutes
[18:58] <Oliver_> Hey, does Ubuntu have vanilla packages? (e.g. XFCE without customizations)
[18:58] <dr_willis> [snake]:  what video card?
[18:58] <Kniple> Hey Guys, I need some help. I run Xubuntu 12.10, and when I'm on AC Power, the system gets really slow, and speeds up as soon as i unplug the ac-adapter and run on battery power. Anyone of you know what this might be? (I tried to google for it, but couldnt find any relevant information)
[18:58] <dr_willis> Oliver_:  not that ive ever noticed.
[18:58] <Oliver_> hm, okay
[18:58] <[snake]> dr_willis, um... let me pull out my motherboard box, it is the built in nvidia one, I will see what it is specifically.
[18:58] <Kniple> Oliver_: i guess you can log out and choose xfce without the ubuntu constumization?
[18:58] <[snake]> that was a horribly worded sentence lol
[18:58] <dr_willis> [snake]:  you did install the nvidia drivers?
[18:59] <Oliver_> Kniple: Never heard of that
[18:59] <[snake]> dr_willis, yes I installed them.
[18:59] <dkessel> [snake] or you could run "lspci" and pastebin the output
[18:59] <Kniple> well if you log out, you get a drop down with environments, and you can choose xfce classic, and xfce ubuntu, i think.
[18:59] <dr_willis> [snake]:  run nvidia-settings and be sure its using them. Try some native linux 3d games also.
[19:00] <Alumin> dr_willis: already read that, couldn't quite get it working
[19:00] <Alumin> (from that).  However, I think I have in fact got it working :)
[19:02] <Alumin> I'm going to try doing a full regex match against the URI of the source, 'cause really that's the only way to be sure
[19:02] <[snake]> dr_willis, I'm in the nvidia-setting. it says what version it is: 295.40 does that mean it is running that then?
[19:02] <merpnderp> Anyone know if the latest Alienware M14x is fully supported?
[19:02] <Alumin> basing the pin on Origin is nice, and _should_ be authoritative, but it presupposes that the admin of the source doesn't change the Release file
[19:02] <dr_willis> [snake]:  if you were not running them.. then it would have said so when you started up nvidia-settings
[19:02] <strempo> hi
[19:03] <strempo> i've downloaded
[19:03] <[snake]> ok it has them then. dr_willis what else do you think could potentially be the problem?
[19:03] <strempo> ubu 8.04.4
[19:03] <dr_willis> merpnderp:  id say check the forums and askubuntu to see if people report problems with it.  - 'latest' hardware is often the MOST problematic.
[19:03] <Petaz> can I run ubunto on a windows 8 phone?
[19:03] <dr_willis> [snake]:  tried a native 3d linux game? - could be the onboard nvidia is just not that good a 3d card for what you are wanting to do.
[19:03] <merpnderp> dr_willis: thanks
[19:03] <dr_willis> Petaz:  doubtfull.
[19:04] <strempo> dr_willis i've downloaded and installed ubu 8.04.4 but at the beginning it say: gtrld not found
[19:04] <Petaz> what phones can run ubuntu?
[19:04] <strempo> and it doesnt work
[19:04] <dr_willis> Petaz:  none run the natively as far as i know.
[19:04] <[snake]> dr_willis, I tried minecraft before, it was worse. All my graphics worked really well on 32 bit ubuntu 12.04 but now it's not the same on 64 bit :(
[19:04] <khayes_> I just tried booting into 12 from my MBP 5,3 and selected Install Ubuntu. It booted into a black screen with a single yellow Y with a red background
[19:05] <dr_willis> [snake]:  cant say ive notced any issues in 64bit vs 32. but i havent ran 32bit in years
[19:05] <dr_willis> [snake]:  you could do a 32bit install to a flash drive for a test bed to see if preformance is better.
[19:06] <loculinux> eii
[19:06] <loculinux> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:06] <[snake]> dr_willis, well, I know that it was better graphics before. but the funny thing is that now, the graphics suck but my computer is running in normal speed. nothing is laggy while I'm running the game, like it was on 32 bit.
[19:06] <[snake]> dr_willis, perhaps I need an older driver or something
[19:06] <strempo> dr_willis i've downloaded and installed ubu 8.04.4 but at the beginning it say: gtrld not found
[19:07] <loculinux> en español
[19:07] <loculinux> wot
[19:07] <DJones> !es | loculinux
[19:07] <dr_willis> strempo:  means very little to me. ive not used 8.x in 4+ years.. and no idea what gtrld means
[19:07] <loculinux> ihavegot
[19:08] <dcherniv> I regret Nozing
[19:08] <dr_willis> strempo:  if that pc is haveing a hard time running the installer. i would either pull the hd and install it from a differnt pc onto the hd. or do a install to a flash drive. then dd/image the flash onto the internal HD.
[19:11] <strempo> no the installation is gone well, but at the restart, doeesn't work, pc say: no gtrldl found  on hd, please reboot
[19:12] <dr_willis> strempo:  sure its not saying 'ntrldr' ?
[19:12] <dr_willis> if its not booting to grub. try the grub fix-boot tools  (aka boot-repair)
[19:13] <Somelauw> I like ubuntu, except the purple theme. Is that a matter of taste or does everyone else like it?
[19:13] <strempo> dr_willis how should i do?
[19:13] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[19:13] <dr_willis> use the boot-repair tool from a live cd would bewhat i would try strempo
[19:14] <dr_willis> Somelauw:  its easy to change themes/colors..
[19:14] <p1l0t> Do you have to reboot for changes in /etc/group to take effect?
[19:14] <dr_willis> p1l0t:  log out/back in
[19:15] <p1l0t> dr_willis: thanks
[19:15] <strempo> dr_willis i've copied ubu on stick no in cd
[19:15] <strempo> but now at the reboot also the stick doesn't work
[19:16] <strempo> now i'm with puppylivecd
[19:16] <p1l0t> dr_willis: It's username:number:group correct?
[19:16] <p1l0t> errr
[19:16] <p1l0t> no
[19:16] <p1l0t> group:number:user_list
[19:16] <dr_willis> ive rarely had to mess with groups.. :) so  i dont recall p1l0t
[19:18] <p1l0t> dr_willis: Do I need to logout from everywhere?
[19:18] <dr_willis> p1l0t:  the group changes will only affect the new login shells/apps
[19:18] <dr_willis> i think
[19:19] <p1l0t> dr_willis: thanks
[19:24] <kevinch> shit
[19:24] <kevinch> i think i screwed something up when I was trying to resize my lvm volume and partition
[19:24] <kevinch> its ext4
[19:24] <kevinch> having trouble fixing it
[19:24] <talntidd> what are the symptoms?
[19:24] <talntidd> and how did you resize it?
[19:24] <kevinch> can't mount
[19:25] <kevinch> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/Media-Media,
[19:25] <talntidd> what happens when you list volumes?
[19:25] <dr_willis> gotta love the generic 'it aint working' error messages
[19:25] <kevinch> yeah sorry for the lack of info
[19:25] <talntidd> show me "/etc/fstab"
[19:26] <dr_willis> dmesg output may give some more info also.
[19:26] <talntidd> and how are you trying to mount it?
[19:26] <kevinch>   --- Physical volume ---
[19:26] <kevinch>   PV Name               /dev/sda1
[19:26] <kevinch>   VG Name               Media
[19:26] <kevinch>   PV Size               1.82 TiB / not usable 3.05 MiB
[19:26] <kevinch>   Allocatable           yes
[19:26] <FloodBot1> kevinch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <kevinch>   PE Size               4.00 MiB
[19:26] <nicholas> anyone who knows witch desktop environment arch Linux is using as standard
[19:26] <talntidd> heh
[19:26] <talntidd> kevinch, use pastebin
[19:26] <kevinch> thats the mount line /dev/Media/Media        /home/admiral/Media ext4 rw,noatime 0 0
[19:26] <kevinch> for this drive
[19:27] <auronandace> nicholas: it doesn't, you choose what you want; this channel is for ubuntu support
[19:27] <kevinch> okay
[19:27] <dr_willis> kevinch:  your command said /dev/maper/media-media  not media/media
[19:27] <nicholas> okay
[19:27] <kevinch> yes thats the feedback i get when I try and mount with sudo mount -a
[19:28] <kevinch> I think the size of the lvm volume and partition aren't the same
[19:28] <kevinch> i think the partition is bigger than the lvm
[19:28] <talntidd> why do you think this?
[19:29] <kevinch> just a hunch, i think i saw something come up yesterday
[19:29] <kevinch> when i was trying to troubleshoot
[19:29] <talntidd> your details are astounding
[19:31] <ViaNocturna85> some of my games scale wrong and show only about 1/3 of the actual screen since its too big, i have intel graphics, anyone know what i could do?
[19:31] <bluwhale> Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a networking solution. I have a Win7 laptop at my desk, and an Ubuntu desktop. Is there any way to share the internet connection between the two of them? The win7 desktop has internet because of its inbuilt wifi, but Ubuntu doesn't. Perhaps I could connect them both with an ethernet connection or something?
[19:32] <kevinch> talntidd what more information could i get for you that would help?
[19:32] <kevinch> I think i did something wrong when i resized the partition and the volume
[19:32] <dr_willis> bluwhale:  windows has internet shareing connection features. (ICS) that can do it.
[19:32] <dr_willis> bluwhale:  you will need either a crossover cable. or 2 normal cables + a hub/port. unless you got GbE ports
[19:32] <Alumin> bluwhale: you can do IP masquerade on the Ubuntu system to share the connection
[19:33] <namidark> My server is randomly losing its DHCP lease and then it refuses to pick up a new one (dhclient just hangs and pings the dhcpserver) -- if i manually configure an IP I can ssh into it, but no domain's resolve, and if I edit resolv.conf to set the nameservers, the domain's still won't resolve... anyone have any ideas?
[19:33] <Alumin> but yeah, as dr_willis said you'll need a crossover cable to connect them if you don't have a hub/switch
[19:33] <bluwhale> dr_willis, Well, I have ethernet ports on both. So can I link them through those?
[19:33] <bluwhale> Alumin, ^^
[19:33] <Alumin> and you'll have to manually configure the networking (i.e. without DHCP) on whichever machine is "behind" the other one
[19:33] <dr_willis> actually  ive seen some Normal 100speed Nic ports that can auto switch. :) but nmot sure how common they are
[19:33] <kevinch> bluewhale you may not need crossover if one of the NIC's auto configures and knows its a crossover
[19:34] <kevinch> *not a crossover
[19:34] <dr_willis> I thinl all the 1000 speed Gigibit ports can do it.
[19:34] <Alumin> bluwhale: sure, but you may need a cxrossover cable depending on your NIC hardware
[19:34] <JoshDreamland> Seems Ubuntu has decided to call immediate system reboot without prompt as soon as updates finish. How do I make it not do that?
[19:35] <dr_willis> I guess that Raspberry Pi has one of these smart NIC ports. ;) from what ive read of its specs.. not seen it on any other desktop/laptops. but most new ones have Gigibit.
[19:35] <bluwhale> Ok, thanks for the tips guys. I think I'll do more research.
[19:35] <bluwhale> Based on your suggestions.
[19:35] <Alumin> namidark: can you ping the nameservers themselves?
[19:35] <Alumin> bluwhale: if you want the MSW box to be the "master", look up Internet Connection Sharing
[19:35] <Alumin> if you want the Ubuntu box to handle it, look up IP masquerade
[19:37] <Alumin> you might want to look up the pinout for a crossover cable as well, in case you need to make one
[19:37] <dr_willis> always handy to have a crossover cable, or a little converter/dongle in the pc toolbox
[19:37] <Alumin> I can't remember the orange/white, orange, brown/white, brown, blue, fuchsia, teal, silver...whatever
[19:37] <Alumin> heh
[19:39] <bluwhale> Thanks guys.
[19:40] <new-to-this> hi
[19:41] <namidark> Alumin: yeah i can ping by IP
[19:41] <new-to-this> excuse my lack of knowledge, but i would like some advise trying to run a command that would search for all .mp4 files and then execute vlc with those files in it. im came up with this but it doesnt excute vlc. Please advise ? find . -iname "*.mp4" -exec  '{}' /usr/bin/vlc \
[19:42] <p1l0t> I just made a directory with dr-------T 0_o
[19:42] <namidark> Alumin: actually I take that back, I can't
[19:42] <Alumin> aha!
[19:42] <p1l0t> chmod says it doesn't exist but I see with ls
[19:42] <new-to-this> excuse my lack of knowledge, but i would like some advise trying to run a command that would search for all .mp4 files and then execute vlc with those files in it. im came up with this but it doesnt excute vlc. Please advise ? find . -iname "*.mp4" -exec  '{}' /usr/bin/vlc \; even
[19:42] <Alumin> new-to-this: I think you mean
[19:43] <namidark> Alumin: the two other servers on the same switch, have dhcp leases fine, but their route table is definitely different, I'm missing a route on the bad server
[19:43] <Alumin> find . -iname '*.mp4' -exec /usr/bin/vlc '{}' \;
[19:43] <dr_willis> that might run an instance of vlc for each file.. may not be what you want. ;)
[19:43] <new-to-this> Alumin: yes i do
[19:43] <new-to-this> it doesnt return anything
[19:43] <Alumin> I don't second-guess the question.  :)  But yes, you're right, he probably wants xargs
[19:44] <Alumin> it doesn't?
[19:44] <new-to-this> not for me no
[19:44] <Alumin> hmm...looks reasonable to me
[19:44] <dr_willis> spaces in file names may also goof things up
[19:44] <namidark> Alumin: here are the two routing tables; https://gist.github.com/4355252
[19:44] <p1l0t> What does dr-------T mean?? I get drwxrwxrwx or dr-xr----- but what is dr-------T
[19:44] <new-to-this> if i run "/usr/bin/vlc" i get vlc up
[19:44] <dr_willis> have it test with doing an 'echo' of the file names.. instead of using vlc.
[19:45] <strempo> hi the name is grlde
[19:45] <strempo> grldr
[19:45] <dr_willis> -exec echo .......
[19:45] <puff> is there any way for "apt-get show" or some similar command to see which repo a particular package is coming from?
[19:45] <Alumin> namidark: well, assuming the one server is supposed to have eth0 and the other br0
[19:45] <[snake]> dr_willis, :DDDDDDDDDD I fixed it!!!!! I installed the version-current-updates and now I have 3d working!! I never saw the version-current-updates before :P
[19:45] <Alumin> I'm assuming that's not the problem
[19:45] <[snake]> dr_willis, thanks!
[19:45] <Alumin> your obvious problem is that the "bad" route table has no default route :)
[19:46] <alexwaters> i am trying to run a process as a service. when i do sudo start - it dies with this error in syslog: kernel: init: main process terminated with status 134. how can i look up that error code to find out what is breaking?
[19:46] <namidark> Alumin: once I've been getting dhcp working I just add the bridge and dhclient the bridge and it picks up the IP, essentially they're all using eth0 in br0
[19:46] <new-to-this> ah found the answer
[19:46] <new-to-this> the files for some reason are .mp4.
[19:46] <iamwhoiam> dr_willis: doesnt the "\" at the end fo the command of new to this return the second prompth (i dont know how to call it)
[19:47] <iamwhoiam> ?
[19:47] <Tex_Nick> 12.10 Unity ... trying to update thru synaptic ... it's been hung for about 10 minutes on the last linf of http://pastebin.com/Xq9LnYHy ... any any ideas before i abort the update ?
[19:47] <new-to-this> not sure why and that command works as expected
[19:47] <puff> I'm having a problem where dmesg is reporting the kernel wants nvidia 304.48 and the packageis reporting 304.64.  I was on x-swat PPA nvidia-experimental-304 so I purged that and was about to install nvidia-current, but "apt-get show" says nvidia-current is 304.64 too. (this is all on ubuntu 12.4 fwiw).
[19:47] <new-to-this> thanks for your help in any case :-)
[19:47] <strempo> the problem is grldr
[19:48] <Alumin> alexwaters: exit status codes are application-specific, you'll have to look that up in the man page for the app I'd assume
[19:49] <alexwaters> Alumin: the service is supposed to change directories and then do python default.py -dev
[19:49] <alexwaters> Alumin: would that be python then?
[19:49] <Alumin> namidark: honestly, I don't understand how that stuff works...all I know is ya ain't got no default route and that's why you can't get to the nameservers I'd assume :)
[19:50] <Alumin> alexwaters: well, maybe, but Python itself is probably just passing through whatever exitcode the script it runs is providing
[19:50] <Alumin> default.py
[19:50] <vitimiti> (^.^)/
[19:50] <alexwaters> when i run that in bash, it executes without an error though =(
[19:50] <Mongolski> hej
[19:51] <alexwaters> Alumin: oh well, thank you
[19:51] <Alumin> alexwaters: hence why you need the docs :)
[19:51] <Jaxster> At work i'd like to setup a linux machine that I can control the windows network with - Active Directory, Exchange Management, Mapped drives to all my servers, Network information and Audits and other administrative tasks.  I've gotten a virtual machine of 12.4 to connect to the domain, authenticate with AD as a user with privledges, setup my exchange... What else should I do? anyone? I'm lost
[19:51] <Jaxster> now.. I feel like i've done a lot for how little I know but I'm not exactly managing anything with this setup yet because I dont know what to do now. Suggestions?
[19:51] <namidark> Alumin: yeah :( I think the DHCP server is fubar'd at work, asking for a router to subnet myself off
[19:51] <Alumin> alexwaters: if you want, you can run it at the command line and then run "echo $?"
[19:51] <veryhappy> hey guys - anyone scared of the end of the world? - :D - i have a question about my alsa, i have a quite fresh install of ubuntu on my slim pc and now i want to be able to connect it over hdmi and get video and sound. unfortunately i only get a video but no sound since i removed pulseaudio completely like advised. what can i do now?.
[19:51] <Alumin> it might be exiting 134 anyway, just not printing an error :)
[19:51] <strempo> no one can help me?
[19:51] <strempo> :(
[19:52] <veryhappy> strempo on what?
[19:53] <erncic> strempo: wubi install?
[19:53] <strempo> i've downloaded and installed ubu 8.04.4
[19:54] <erncic> strempo: is it installed onto (inside) windows?
[19:54] <strempo> but at the restat: cannot find grldr in all drivers, please reboot
[19:54] <strempo> nono
[19:54] <OerHeks> strempo only the server is supported
[19:54] <OerHeks> !8.04
[19:55] <strempo> ?
[19:55] <alexwaters> Alumin: echo $? returns 0
[19:55] <alexwaters> after running the command from bash
[19:55] <Alumin> huh...OK
[19:55] <strempo> ah i cannot install if it's not supported??
[19:56] <mattb_> dgdgd
[19:56] <Alumin> alexwaters: yeah, unfortunately it looks like you're just gonna have to look it up in the docs for whatever it is, then
[19:57] <OerHeks> strempo you won't get updates, so it is useless, upgrade to 10.04 or even better 12.04
[19:57] <mattb_> Qurdyiond plrsdr? Yhr $og ppl lodinh yhid hmr id inyrndr@ middddprllinh yhr ptrbioud eotf yhtoed uou oggg@
[19:58] <DJones> mattb_: You may want to remove the cat from your keyboard or use English in this channel
[19:58] <strempo> my sis graphic videos don't do install it
[19:58] <iamwhoiam> DJones: lol
[19:58] <chrs_> is everything ok with the ubuntu servers?
[19:58] <corvaxia> Is there a way to keep files persistent in a LiveUSB?
[19:59] <chrs_> i'm getting an error when i try apt-get update
[19:59] <lise> hi
[19:59] <talntidd> "an error"
[19:59] <chrs_> Err http://archive.getdeb.net maverick-getdeb Release.gpg Could not connect to archive.getdeb.net:80 (209.105.191.78). - connect (113: No route to host)
[19:59] <OerHeks> chrs_, getdeb is down for some weeks now
[19:59] <DJones> chrs_: archive.getdeb isn't part of the ubuntu servers
[20:00] <chrs_> oh
[20:00] <strempo> OerHeks, i don't understand, why starts : cannot find grldr?
[20:01] <OerHeks> strempo i don't know, and support is over for 8.04.
[20:02]  * OerHeks jumped in @ 9.04
[20:02] <iamwhoiam> strempo: are you talking about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1719333?
[20:03] <strempo> yes iamwhoiam , but i don't have win
[20:03] <chrs_> i need to figure out how to configure apt to use something else besides getdeb
[20:04] <erncic> corvaxia: unetbootin has a checkbox to turn on persistence in a liveusb.
[20:04] <OerHeks> chrs_, for what game/tool ?
[20:04] <chrs_> nicotine+
[20:04] <chrs_> but my apt-get update isn't even working
[20:05] <chrs_> is update supposed to fail because it couldn't hit one server?
[20:06] <chrs_> theres no getdeb in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:06] <Pici> chrs_: its likely in a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[20:06] <iamwhoiam> strempo: what exactly are you doing? fresh install, usb install, wubi?
[20:07] <strempo> can i write in pv?
[20:07] <lise> ?
[20:07] <chrs_> Pici: you're right, found it
[20:08] <IlostMyNcik> Hi, How can I configure a keyboard shortcut to open a specific window?
[20:08] <iamwhoiam> strempo: better here, so that anybody can help
[20:09] <strempo> ok, i'm with puppy, i've downloaded ubu in usb bootable,
[20:09] <strempo> then i had done start the installation
[20:09] <strempo> at the reboot
[20:10] <strempo> the error: grldr don't found, restart
[20:10] <chrs_> hmm, also getting: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources                          404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[20:10] <iamwhoiam> strempo: i suppose restart with the bootable usb that had ubuntu?:)
[20:11] <Pici> chrs_: maverick reached its end-of-life in April.
[20:11] <chrs_> that's weird, my browser can get there
[20:11] <Pici> !EOL | chrs_
[20:11] <chrs_> i guess i have my answer then
[20:12] <strempo> yes
[20:12] <strempo> nono
[20:12] <chrs_> this is what i get for being lazy and not staying up to date
[20:12] <strempo> then i restart with the full installation
[20:13] <iamwhoiam> strempo: check this http://reboot.pro/topic/8014-strange-problem-cant-find-grldr/, the answer of was_jaclaz
[20:13] <IlostMyNcik> so, is there a way to raise a window ?
[20:13] <iamwhoiam> strempo: if i understood your problem correctly
[20:14] <IlostMyNcik>  can I configure a shortcut key to switch to a specific application?
[20:14] <iamwhoiam> strempo: better check the whole discussion in the website
[20:15] <iamwhoiam> strempo: i just saw that the guy went through many issues
[20:15] <gurjeet> I seriously need help with wireless driver. It's driving me crazy! I have 12.04 running on MacBook Pro 9,1. Is someone around who can help? I have tried every solution given in every Ubuntu forum
[20:16] <corvaxia> It feels like the support recently backpedaled on macbookpros
[20:16] <strempo> iamwhoiam, , but if i format the 2 stick in ext2 it's better?
[20:16] <corvaxia> gurjeet are you using a 32 or 64-bit distro
[20:16] <lise> hi i need help ! i m a beginer  ! and someone can explain me how working this chat ?
[20:16] <gurjeet> It used to work just fine about a month ago. And then I visited Canada for 15 days, and ever since I have returned, the network lookups just times out every few seconds.
[20:17] <gurjeet> corvaxia: It's 64 bit.
[20:17] <Nik05> hey guys
[20:18] <iamwhoiam> strempo: ididnt see anything in their discussion mentioning formatting ...
[20:18] <gurjeet> Sometimes there's no problem for a few minutes, but most often the network drops out every few seconds.
[20:19] <erncic> !ask | lise
[20:19] <corvaxia> Have you tried reinstalling the b43 drivers for your wifi chipset?
[20:19] <maetthew> erncic, I think this is someone that's never used nick :P
[20:19] <gurjeet> corvaxia: Yes, quite a few times.
[20:19] <maetthew> erncic, err. not nick, irc
[20:20] <Nik05> Im still having some problems with apparmor. Im doing updates with aptitude, and its hanging at apparmor
[20:20] <erncic> maetthew: I agree, but I don't know a nicer ubottu phrase...
[20:20] <corvaxia> gurjeet Sorry, I don't have enough experience to recommend anything else. I just got started on Ubuntu and I would hate to have the Blind leading the myopic
[20:20] <Terriblist> back
[20:20] <maetthew> erncic, hah
[20:20] <Nik05> when checking ps, i see that cat /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/profiles is running all the time
[20:20] <maetthew> Nik05, kill it?
[20:20] <Nik05> well after a few minutes it continued
[20:20] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | Nik05
[20:21] <Nik05> but this happens all the time
[20:21] <Rage> Now I really do need to reinstall my ubuntu
[20:21] <gurjeet> corvaxia: Thanks for trying.
[20:21] <gurjeet> :)
[20:22] <Rage> Can someone tell me how to backup my system so that I can keep all of my programs?
[20:23] <corvaxia> gurjeet I was hoping I could help since I ran into issues on the macbookpro 9,2 when installing 12.10. This code fixed everything for me (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro9-2/Quantal#Wireless). But you said you were running 12.04
[20:23] <Nik05> and now the updating is haning at cups. aa-status is the one that is hanging
[20:24] <Rage> Can someone tell me how to backup my system so that I can keep all of my apps and stuff?
[20:24] <erncic> !fr | lise
[20:25] <Nik05> how can cat /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/profiles hang? When i check /sys/kernel/security/apparmor/profiles with ls, it says its size is 0.
[20:25] <lise> merci ! thaks for ur help !
[20:26] <erncic> lise: very welsome
[20:27] <Tex_Nick> Rage : what version of ubuntu are you using
[20:27] <Rage> 12.04
[20:27] <Rage> I just updated and I have gotten about 50 error messages and crashed
[20:27] <Tex_Nick> Rage : Unity ?
[20:27] <Rage> crashes
[20:28] <Rage> what about unity?
[20:28] <Tex_Nick> are you using Unity ?
[20:28] <Rage> I'm really not sure
[20:28] <Rage> How can I check?
[20:29] <Tex_Nick> Rage : in dash type backup ... look through the options
[20:29] <iamwhoiam> Rage: when looking at the desktop, is there a bar with applications on the left
[20:30] <iamwhoiam> perhaps echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[20:30] <iamwhoiam> ?
[20:30] <Rage> It says the program backup is not installed
[20:30] <Rage> there is a bar
[20:31] <Rage> with all the applications
[20:31] <Nik05> so nobody knows about problems with apparmor?
[20:32] <Rage> iamwhoiam: there is a bar that shows all of the applications
[20:32] <Rage> hellooo?
[20:32] <iamwhoiam> Rage: there should be a program called backup.. perhaps install it?
[20:32] <blitz> I'm trying to get turbovnc working on 12.10, I followed the guide on turbo vnc (I'm connecting from a mac with x11) and was able to ssh in, set it up and then connect via IP:2, but now all I get is a grey screen. Any ideas
[20:33] <Tex_Nick> Rage : in Ubuntu Software Center ... type backup ... you will be given a variety of backup apps ... Deja Dup Backup Tool is thefaut on mu box
[20:33] <Rage> it's just called backup?
[20:33] <gurjeet> corvaxia: I have tried those exact instructions quite a few times in the past, but the problem persists.
[20:33] <Rage> I have 2 different backup apps
[20:33] <Rage> nepomuk
[20:34] <Rage> and the one that has a locker or whatever as the icon
[20:34] <iamwhoiam> Rage: so when you typed backup it did return something...
[20:34] <Rage> yes, it return "The program backup is not installed"
[20:35] <Rage> oh, I can install it with the command it shows, :P*
[20:35] <iamwhoiam> Rage : Tex_Nick said "in dash type backup"
[20:35] <user82> hi! is anyone around here who knows how to pass cflags to make-kpkg?
[20:35] <iamwhoiam> Rage: anyway, you already have the backup programs, so, use them...
[20:35] <Rage> doesn't he mean the terminal?
[20:35] <Tex_Nick> Rage : the icon that looks like a sake or locker is the Deja Dup Backup Tool ... it allows many options for backup, including to Ubuntu One
[20:35] <iamwhoiam> Rage: no..
[20:36] <Rage> oh...
[20:36] <iamwhoiam> Rage: dash is what u see when you put your mouse on the top left corner
[20:36] <Rage> oh right
[20:36] <iamwhoiam> Rage: the terminal is called... well, the terminal :)
[20:37] <Rage> isn't is also bash though?
[20:37] <Nik05> Ok now it is "Installing new version of config file /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.chromium-browser ...", and it is running "aa-status --enabled" all the time. When i kill(TERM sig) a new one gets started.
[20:37] <Nik05> And its hanging the hole update, what to do?
[20:37] <iamwhoiam> Rage: which is also bash?? the dash?? no!
[20:37] <Rage> no
[20:37] <Rage> isn't the terminal also called bash?
[20:38] <Rage> I figured it was a typo
[20:38] <Rage> but yeah, in the dash, there are 2 different backup programs
[20:39] <Rage> and I have one more question
[20:39] <Rage> If i do back it up, and I reinstall ubuntu, will it keep the programs?
[20:40] <iamwhoiam> Rage: with this i cannot help, i have never used backup programs, only terminal commands for getting all my installed packages and then reinstalling them... someone else might help
[20:41] <Tex_Nick> !bash | Rage
[20:41] <Rage> ah
[20:41] <Tex_Nick> !dash | Rage
[20:41] <Rage> I know what the dash is already
[20:41] <jonesn420> hi
[20:42] <iamwhoiam> Rage: check online for backup etc.. for example, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem, it is easy to get info
[20:42] <Nik05> Can i "safely" kill "/bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/apparmor-profiles.postinst configure 2.7.102-0ubuntu3.5" ?
[20:42] <jonesn420> i added firestarter to /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart however each time it starts it is shown. i just would like to know what comment to add to make it start hidden (window not shown but in the lxpanel)
[20:44] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: i think that is app-specific
[20:44] <jonesn420> i dont see any option in preferences iamwhoiam
[20:46] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: if the app doesnt give you the option, then i think you need to use something extra, like devilpie or something.. at least you used to need, a
[20:47] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1482562
[20:47] <jonesn420> ok but i just thought there was some kind of comment u add at the end of it like @firestart -c or whatever
[20:47] <kmicu> I want to run conkeror with specific GTK 2 theme on Ubuntu 12.10, but with no success, any tips?
[20:49] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: for example, in your example, "-c" would be an option that the app would give you (again, as fas as i know)
[20:50] <jonesn420> not if i add it too the /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart that is just a text file to edit for startup
[20:51] <jonesn420> finally i found it iamwhoiam. and i got the password priveledges taken care of from this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/17322/autostart-firestarter-gui-on-boot
[20:51] <jonesn420> thanks
[20:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> um, I hope I am not out of line for asking this, but can anyone here help with a bit of reverse engineering?
[20:52] <ravci> I AM UNABLE TO OPEN MY DVD DRIVE...................................
[20:52] <Nik05> ok
[20:53] <ravci> HELP ME OUT
[20:53] <Nik05> eject
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> xD
[20:53] <jonesn420> ravci by the actual button on your computer or by right clicking in pcmanfm and hitting eject?
[20:53] <jonesn420> or by terminal?
[20:53] <Terriblist> or by hammer?
[20:53] <jonesn420> lol
[20:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> continue not, time of hammer, it is.
[20:53] <Terriblist> ooops i split my cofe
[20:54] <mrhyde> is it me or does ubuntu 12.04 seem extremely familiar to os x mountain lion?
[20:54] <guntbert_> !ot | Terriblist
[20:54] <jonesn420> i think u spilt your coffee i split a blunt
[20:54] <jonesn420> lol
[20:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> >.< say its not so1
[20:54] <ravci> WE R STILL ALIVE...
[20:54] <jonesn420> YES
[20:54] <guntbert_> !shout | ravci
[20:55] <jonesn420> WOOT WOOT
[20:55] <Terriblist> dood guntbert_
[20:55] <Terriblist> take a prozac
[20:55] <ravci> IS THERE ANY DOMESDAY NEWS AROUND THE WORLD ???
[20:55] <jonesn420> the earth didnt EXPLODE. although if anything happened it started and will take  200,000 years
[20:55] <jonesn420> people dont understand some stuff
[20:55] <Terriblist> i believe majority rules
[20:55] <guntbert_> jonesn420: ravci Terriblist ntzrmtthihu777 this is a suport channel
[20:55] <blitz> so. it seems like when I connect to my vino, using tightvnc or vinagre, I'm controlling the desktop but everything only moves/changes on the host desktop and I can't see the changes
[20:55] <Flannel> Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[20:55] <jonesn420> of course guntbert. we cant be human and bullshit
[20:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, I am on offtopic now.
[20:56] <Terriblist> Flannel: why dont you
[20:56] <Terriblist> join #theory
[20:56] <Terriblist> its my chan
[20:56] <sla> hi room
[20:56] <ravci> help me out with my dvd drive .............plz
[20:56] <jonesn420> ravci answer my q's above
[20:57] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: -start-hidden is a choice given by firestart
[20:57] <eltigre_> hey, is it theoretically possible to mount data cdroms in linux?
[20:57] <jonesn420> i dont see a spot in the options man. i had to add it to the directory autostart file
[20:57] <Nik05> ofcourse...
[20:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> as in iso's? I do it all the time
[20:57] <Nik05> eltigre_ why wouldnt you be able to mount cdroms?
[20:57] <ravci> it ws working fine before the installation of Virtualbox ... but now it is'nt
[20:57] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: if you type man firstart (whatever its called) you will probably see it there
[20:58] <iamwhoiam> jonesn420: again, probably :)
[20:58] <jonesn420> yeah i got it working iamwhoiam thanks. i actually did forget about man pages
[20:58] <jonesn420> though
[20:59] <jonesn420> i guess ravci didnt want help
[20:59] <jonesn420> i tried
[20:59] <jonesn420> it was simple im sure
[20:59] <guntbert_> !enter | jonesn420
[21:00] <jonesn420> guntbert_, ubottu ok guys. this room is not that active though 80 people in here or a ton more that never say a word
[21:00] <Terriblist> i want to start my own irc
[21:00] <jonesn420> its all znc's shit
[21:00] <sla> lit's get it stared in here
[21:00] <Terriblist> join #theory
[21:01] <jonesn420> i want to also Terriblist it will be called #helpandhumantalk
[21:01] <guntbert_> jonesn420: don't argue please - don't clutter the channel, don't make side comments - keep to ubuntu support
[21:01] <jonesn420> lol
[21:01] <jonesn420> got you man
[21:01] <iamwhoiam> guntbert_: where can i get the keywords of the ubottu??
[21:02] <guntbert_> !brain | iamwhoiam
[21:02] <jonesn420> i wasn't arguing actually though guntbert_ just trying to conversate about why
[21:02] <blitz> is there anyway to use unity-2d with vino even though my main environment isn't on 12.10
[21:03] <guntbert_> jonesn420: "conversate about why" seem totally appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[21:03] <jonesn420> guntbert ok bud. i am leaving anyway but when u see me in here I DO help and I DO ask for help.
[21:03] <jonesn420> have a nice one guys
[21:07] <canihojr> hi
[21:07] <Guest8502> Hi
[21:07] <canihojr> i have problems with plymouth-ubuntu 12.04 (64) and nvidia 310...
[21:08] <sla> hi
[21:08] <canihojr> i try shutdown framebuffer, update grub..... same as somes tutorials, but dont work for me (
[21:08] <canihojr> :8
[21:11] <BrainPaid> hello mans, I need some help about OuTTY
[21:12] <BrainPaid> pardon, Putty
[21:18] <nfl32> hi. could someone help me out with a screwed up /etc/sudoers config. i cant even open synaptic now or anything that ask for password. my terminal error is sudo visudo -s
[21:18] <nfl32> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 31
[21:18] <nfl32> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin and that is with visudo. that sucks. leafpad wont open either and i cant even open pcmanfm in a root window. WOW. this sucks
[21:20] <pingfox> w00t Steam!
[21:20] <guntbert_> nfl32: please see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[21:21] <nfl32> guntbert_, thanks i will check that out
[21:21] <guntbert_> nfl32: Good luck!
[21:23] <nfl32> guntbert_, yes thanks for wish ha. i gotta write stuff down and HATE bash crap
[21:23] <WhitePelican> I need some help with virtual box, can anyone help?
[21:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> not technically ubuntu support, but what is the irc command to authenticate your nick? I already regged it with nickserv
[21:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> what's the problem | WhitePelican
[21:24] <guntbert_> WhitePelican: possibly better support for virtulabox in #vbox
[21:24] <erncic> ntzrmtthihu777, /NickServ identify password
[21:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> I actually just set up a new vbox, so its fresh in my head
[21:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> thank you erncic
[21:25] <Nik05> what about "/msg NickServ help" ?
[21:25] <WhitePelican> ntzrmtthihu777, the manual is a tad cumbersome. What I'm trying to do is increase the size of my virtual machine
[21:25] <Nik05> ntzrmtthihu777 it will tell you everything
[21:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, thank you.
[21:26] <guntbert_> WhitePelican: that is definitely beyound the scope of *this* channel
[21:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> well, If I am not mistaken, you cannot increase the size of the virtual disc image if you set it as fixed size, and it will automatically grow if you set it as dynamically allocated
[21:26] <nfl32> guntbert_, is it possible to make sudo changes under another partiton instead so i have a gui. i am not friendly with bash plus no printer so rather do this way if possible
[21:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> and those are the only options, I think.
[21:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> bash is easy, lol. what exactly are you trying to achieve, nf123?
[21:28] <nfl32> lol ntzrmtthihu777 i really havent ever used it though. always went around it somehow this is what i need to do ntzrmtthihu777  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[21:28] <guntbert_> nfl32: you could do it from a live usb/CD - but you need  to handle command line in any case
[21:28] <erncic> WhitePelican, you can expand it, but you need to treat it as if you had added a new hd and use something like clonezilla to move the data over.  It is exactly like a physical move.
[21:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, yeah you could do that, erncic.
[21:28] <nfl32> guntbert_, ok. so live usb only cant do it from partition on same drive for sure?
[21:29] <WhitePelican> erncic, understood
[21:29] <guntbert_> nfl32: that has nothing to do with "partition"
[21:29] <WhitePelican> erncic, thanks
[21:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, you would have to do a live session. I accidentaly broke sudoers before, was a bit of a pain. not even recovery mod was working, so a live session is a must
[21:30] <nfl32> guntbert_, the screwed sudo system is on sda my 1 hard drive and it has 3 partitions the other 2 systems work fine. so can i make these http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo changes that way or i really gotta burn off a iso live usb. that is all i am askin
[21:30] <Guest12334> hi, does anyone know if there's a way under xorg.conf to set the screen to only use 1080i and ever 1080p
[21:30] <Guest12334> ?
[21:30] <nfl32> ok ntzrmtthihu777 appreciate it. i may be back to ask for some help lol
[21:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, then just boot one of your other systems and fix it.
[21:31] <nfl32> ok thats cool ntzrmtthihu777
[21:31] <nfl32> i will do that
[21:31] <guntbert_> nfl32: ahh, you are multibooting - sure, as long as the borked system is not the actiive one it should work (although I never tried that approach myself)
[21:31] <walterwoj> I just rebooted my server after installing updates and now It will not boot.  It gives me a black screen with a blinking cursor.  In recovery mode it shows a bunch of bios messages (no errors though) and then hangs.  It wont boot under any kernel.
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> try ctr+alt+f6 at the blinking cursor. or another f button
[21:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> I had similar issue.
[21:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> 1
[21:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, that works now
[21:39] <ntzrmtthihu777_> dang, did It die?
[21:40] <ubuntu> hi
[21:41] <Petaz> how did you steal that nick?
[21:41] <Guest88341> easy... you can steal it yourself for 30 secs Petaz
[21:43] <aafuentes> i get this error when trying to install ¨The creation of swap space in partition #1 of LVM VG tachikoma, LV swap failed.¨
[21:43] <aafuentes> can anybody help me?
[21:43] <ntzrmtthihu777_> hmm
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> test
[21:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> still here
[21:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> how original
[21:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> harro
[21:49] <sla> ;lejf;lafjd'lgjldfhjg;ld;lghdkfhgldshflghdfk;ghkshglk
[21:49] <sla> lerjf'jdlhsdklhfshlgfsldhfkshfhsklfhs;hgfio
[21:50] <sla> lfdjg;ldj;lgjd;dfjg;jds;j;sfjglsdloghdflhgldhsflgh
[21:50] <Jordan_U> sla: Please stop.
[21:50] <Rudi_> join #pure-ctf c3zeilboot
[21:52] <Rudi_> dnkfldn
[21:52] <Rudi_> dffsd
[21:52] <Rudi_> fdssdfsdfsdfs
[21:52] <Rudi_> dsfsdsdfs
[21:52] <Rudi_> sdfsdfsdfsfsdf
[21:52] <FloodBot1> Rudi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:52] <Rudi_> sdfsfsdfd
[21:52] <DJones> Rudi_: Stop that
[21:52] <Rudi_> sorry
[21:53] <emx> what can go wrong when using do-release-upgrade?
[21:54] <jrib> emx: upgrade could fail and your left in version limbo
[21:54] <jrib> you're
[21:54] <emx> jrib, so the system would stay bootable, if a service was restartet it would not fail and so on?
[21:55] <toroinfuriato> ciao
[21:56] <Jordan_U> emx: There are no guarantees.
[21:56] <emx> awww
[21:56] <jrib> emx: not necessarily.  But if you are not doing strange things with your packages (badly behaved PPAs, repositories not meant for your version, .debs not meant for your version), then the install should go smooth.  In any case, you're advised to have backups (which you should have even if you aren't upgrading of course)
[21:56] <erncic> emx: I hear ppa's are a no-no too.
[21:57] <walterwoj> I don't know, I hope not, It was running fine until reboot, then nada!  Now all I get is this (in recovery mode): http://static.inky.ws/image/3544/2012-12-21_16-35-25_55.jpg
[21:58] <emx> jrib, erncic, Jordan_U: i guess the system is voodoo free. is it safe to use 11.10 for a few more months? it's a remote system and i relatively new to ubuntu
[21:58]  * joey8 thinks he better do backups now
[21:59] <walterwoj> ntzr
[21:59] <walterwoj> ntzrmtthihu777: Does my paste  look familiar?
[22:00] <doug1> how can I get mkfs NOT to mount a volume when it's already in fstab?
[22:00] <nfl32> hi. i am editing the etc/sudoers and i have it back to normal however still a problem. i followed a good tutorial website also
[22:00] <mrhyde> wow ubuntu is amazing -words coming from a Mac user :)
[22:00] <tim-ct> hi all Please could someone look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1455744/. I still cant see thru the firewall
[22:00] <Jordan_U> doug1: mkfs doesn't mount volumes, so you'll have to rephrase your question.
[22:00] <erncic> emx: how remote and what is your "Are you kidding me?" strategy?
[22:01] <doug1> Jordan_U: Yes it does. If I run mkfs on a volume, and that volume is already in fstab, it automatically mounts it
[22:01] <emx> erncic, what on earth is a "Are you kidding me?" strategy? :P remote means around 3'000 km away.
[22:02] <doug1> Jordan_U: I can reproduce this.
[22:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> how can I list channels?
[22:03] <metap0d> Hi everyone, I just installed Ubuntu and then Chromium but I don't seem to have a flash plugin installed. I tried googling how to add it but can't find a relevant article :/
[22:03] <erncic> emx: that is my way of waying if the sshd doesn't come back up, what is your plan. I have done it myself, but I was aware of the possible outcomes.
[22:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[22:03] <nbdu1nder> boa noite
[22:04] <phibxr> metap0d, either install it as ntzrmtthihu777 said, or just install Chrome from http://www.google.com/chrome.
[22:04] <emx> erncic, i see. i got one strategy: not upgrading and change to a local hoster so i can kick butts when something goes wrong.
[22:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> or just wise up and use the excellent browser that comes with buntu
[22:04] <guntbert> ntzrmtthihu777: you better don't list them - send a /msg alis help
[22:05] <Jordan_U> doug1: Something may be automatically mounting the volume, but it's not mkfs. Let's assume for now that there is something that is mounting the volume whenever a filesystem appears on it. How is the device specified in the fstab? (specifically, is it specified by UUID, by label, or by static device name?)
[22:05] <nbdu1nder> anyone can help me?
[22:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> uh, we just did nbdu
[22:05] <guntbert> !ask | nbdu1nder
[22:05] <nbdu1nder> i have a thermatalk sports shock h7 but the drivers dont work on linux
[22:05] <Tex_Nick> nbdu1nder : ask your question
[22:05] <nbdu1nder> i installed the wine
[22:05] <walterwoj> I just updated my ubuntu install and afterwards needed to reboot after rebot this is all I get in recovery mode: http://static.inky.ws/image/3544/2012-12-21_16-35-25_55.jpg
[22:06] <nbdu1nder> where is the program files on linux?
[22:06] <Patero-ng> lol
[22:06] <Patero-ng> c:\linux\programs
[22:06] <nfl32> ntzrmtthihu777, could you pm me please for a bit of help with the sudoers?
[22:06] <nbdu1nder> no the program files of wine (srry for my english)
[22:06] <guntbert> Patero-ng: please don't
[22:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> sure. how do I pm?
[22:07] <lb27> nbdu1nder: ~/.wine/ ?
[22:07] <nbdu1nder> ok
[22:07] <lb27> that was a question, not an answer.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> nbdu1nder: ~/.wine/drive_c/
[22:07] <nfl32> you type /msg my name i can do it to you i guess
[22:08] <guntbert> ntzrmtthihu777: just type   /msg alis help    (the / must be the first character on the line)
[22:08] <Tex_Nick> Patero-ng : posting false answers here have the potential to cause damage to a user's system
[22:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, it does nothing gunt
[22:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> absolutely nothing.
[22:08] <Patero-ng> it wasn't gonna hurt him
[22:08] <ToeTag> I'm Ron Burgundy?
[22:09] <nfl32> hmm. i just sent you hi. you dont see a tab on left side. (if ur using xchat) (are you on a website irc?)
[22:09] <guntbert> ntzrmtthihu777: it will possibly open a new window
[22:09] <Tex_Nick> Patero-ng : it wasn't going to help either
[22:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> nope. I am using irssi
[22:09] <nfl32> that might be why
[22:09] <guntbert> ntzrmtthihu777: irssi opens a new window by default
[22:10] <siver> Hi, I accidently messed up some of my keybindings and now I'm trying to reset them to default ... is there any way to do it?
[22:10] <nfl32> well i have folow the psycho cats fix sudo and still hasnt fixed it. i only added one line and took it out
[22:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> join #theory, its empty more or less.
[22:10] <phibxr> siver, where did you mess them up? And How?
[22:10] <nfl32> so not sure what it is doing or i gotta update something else
[22:10] <siver> running gnome classic and well, I was adjusting / adding some new ones in the keyboard -> shortcut pane
[22:10] <walterwoj> Anyone know anything about fixing a boot to a blinking cursor?
[22:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, but no window opens
[22:11] <siver> and I accidently clicked and then hit a few keys, but now I'm not sure what the defaults are supposed to be
[22:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes walter. press ctrl + alt + f1
[22:11] <phibxr> siver, haven't been running gnome classic for years, but I guess that they would most likely be saved somewhere under ~/.config in your home-directory.
[22:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> it should allow you to login with command line
[22:11] <phibxr> siver, try this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings
[22:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> then type startx
[22:11] <siver> phibxr: yeah, I actually just deleted my .gconf folder ... but for some reason that didn't fix it
[22:12] <phibxr> siver, seems like it uses dconf instead of gconf. but that's perhaps gnome 3/unity.
[22:13] <doctorly2> hi, im running ubuntu in text only, and I am trying to find a way to bind fn+up, fn+down, for pg up and pg down.any help would be awesome! keep in mind that I cant page up in this chat yet:P
[22:13] <siver> phibxr: well, it's a fresh ubuntu install, just installed gnome on top ... but my keybindings that I already set in unity were still working in gnome classic, maybe that gives you a better idea of where I should be looking?
[22:13] <doug1> this makes no sense. I am running '/sbin/mkfs -t ext4 /dev/bcvg/log' and something is mounting the volume afterwards. I thought it was because there was already an entry in /etc/fstab, but that's not it cuz I just ran "/sbin/mkfs -t ext4 /dev/bcvg/log" again with it commented out
[22:14] <phibxr> siver, okay, you may want to check this one out then: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17626/how-can-i-restore-default-keyboard-shortcuts
[22:14] <phibxr> siver, I sadly haven't been able to mess my keybindings up -- yet. :)
[22:14] <siver> but my alt/ctrl-tabbing is completely messed up, I cant switch between tabs in the same window ... it both behaves as alt-tab
[22:14] <siver> yeah, first time here as well
[22:15] <Jordan_U> doug1: Is it mounting it somewhere in /media/ ?
[22:15] <doug1> Jordan_U: No, mounts at /var/log/bxxx
[22:15] <doug1> Jordan_U: it's not automounted
[22:16] <siver> phibxr: do you think it's possible I have a conflict between 2 different files that have different functionality for the same key combination?
[22:16] <quidnunc> How do I create a live-usb than will run on a Macbook?
[22:16] <doug1> now, if I umount it, and run the mkfs again, it's not automatically mouned this time
[22:17] <Jordan_U> doug1: What type of device is this?
[22:17] <doug1> Jordan_U: Logical volume on Amazon ephemeral disk
[22:17] <phibxr> siver, No idea I'm afraid.
[22:18] <doctorly2> does anyone know how to change keybindings for terminal?
[22:18] <Jordan_U> doug1: Logical Volume as in LVM?
[22:18] <doug1> Jordan_U: Correct
[22:19] <Jordan_U> doug1: I would expect that to show up in /dev/mapper/ .
[22:19] <_andyj__> after fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 logging in updating now wifi is no longer working...  how can I undo whatever was changed in update?
[22:19] <doug1> Jordan_U: Yes, and ...?
[22:21] <walterwoj> ntzrmtthihu777: Already tried that , no response
[22:24] <Tex_Nick> _andyj_ : you might try lspci or lsusb to see if your adapter is listed
[22:25] <_andyj__> lspci shows the broadcom BCM43225, but I get nothing in network manager
[22:25] <Jordan_U> doug1: And when odd things that don't seem to make much sense happen, it's often good to try to understand everything that's happening. Do you understand why the logical volume is showing up in /dev/bcvg/ ? What is the device name of the physical volume associated with it, or is the actual LVM portion of this part of the Amazon foo rather than being handled by the guest?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: Please pastebin the output of "lsmod" "iwlist scan" "nm-tool" and "dmesg".
[22:28] <jrib> emx: 11.10 has support until april 2013
[22:28] <emx> jrib, good news. thanks.
[22:30] <Tex_Nick> _andyj_ : is that on a laptop & you say it no longer works ... did it work on another install
[22:30] <Patero-ng> when will 10.04 be extint
[22:31] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: how about a sub section of dmesg?  like dmesg | grep broadcom ?
[22:32] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: I'd rather see the whole thing, as I don't know yet what I'm looking for.
[22:32] <_andyj__> you're looking for my wireless adapter right?  it's in the dmesg | grep Broadcom output
[22:33] <_andyj__> I'll pastebin the whole thing, it's just a huge output not sure what you will get from all the rest of it
[22:35] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/eqJACZ2Q
[22:36] <_andyj__> there is weird message at the very end of dmesg about USB disconnect, device number 6 which is my wifi module
[22:38] <walterwoj> Just in case anyone needs to know in the future my issue ( seen here: http://static.inky.ws/image/3544/2012-12-21_16-35-25_55.jpg) was caused by a cheap USB hub causing some type of IRQ related issue.  I unplugged the Hub and rebooted and It booted fine.  I know It was the hub because I reconnected it and it caused same hang.  So a blinking cursor can be caused by USB issues.
[22:39] <doug1> Jordan_U: The logical volume is in bcvg because I put it there. bcvg is the volume group. it's comprised of two physical disks, xvdb1 and xvdc1
[22:40] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: Try "sudo modprobe b43".
[22:41] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: no error output but still nothing in network manager or iwlist scan
[22:41] <_andyj__> unless it stashed the err out to a log
[22:41] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: dmesg | tail
[22:42] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/UY6mVL4E
[22:42] <joey8> walterwoj→ thanx for that i have stuck it in the back of my head ヅ
[22:42] <Patero-ng> anybody knows why I can't see the splash screen after installing the nvidia driver
[22:43] <mallet`> Hi. Is there a command line tool like notify-send, but to send a blinking icon in the systray instead of a popup?
[22:43] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: iwlist scan
[22:43] <_andyj__> same as before
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Patero-ng: Because the fancy plymouth boot splash requires KMS, which proprietary drivers don't support.
[22:45] <Patero-ng> that's it!
[22:45] <joey8> mallet`→ would be interested to know the answer to your question
[22:45] <Jordan_U> _andyj__: Can you boot from an Ubuntu 12.10 LiveCD/USB (where hopefully wireless will be working) and post "lsmod" and "dmesg" from there?
[22:45] <mallet`> joey8: I hope there is one!
[22:45] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: sure brb
[22:47] <joey8> mallet`→ there are more options to sending a notify message
[22:50] <mallet`> joey8: The only option I do not understand is "--category" in notify-send
[22:50] <joey8> mallet`→ PM
[22:52] <Patero-ng> who wants to play snes emulation with me
[22:52] <Myrtti> Patero-ng: how's that Ubuntu support question?
[22:54] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: what output did you need from my live cd connected to wireless again?  dmesg and iwlist scan?
[22:55] <Patero-ng> Myrtti shhh don't alert the mods
[22:55] <Myrtti> Patero-ng: too late, I *am* one
[22:56] <kevinch> hi testdisk can find my partitions easily without error in my lvm volume but when I go to mount I get this error
[22:56] <Tex_Nick> _andyj_ : Jordan_U posted ... Can you boot from an Ubuntu 12.10 LiveCD/USB (where hopefully wireless will be working) and post "lsmod" and "dmesg" from there?
[22:57] <kevinch> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/Media-Media,
[22:57] <_andyj__> Tex_Nick: thanks not connected to a bouncer right now so I can't see prior messages after reboot
[22:57] <Patero-ng> ever heard about tails
[22:58] <Tex_Nick> _andyj_ : i understand ... have been following
[22:59] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: output you asked for...  http://pastebin.com/yerGaNNa
[22:59] <kevinch> this also comes up
[22:59] <kevinch> [  507.659175] EXT4-fs (dm-1): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[22:59] <kevinch> in my log
[22:59] <pxoto> hey
[23:02] <pxoto> what distribution are you using?
[23:02] <pxoto> dont say windows
[23:03] <kevinch> me?
[23:03] <kevinch> ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[23:03] <kevinch> I screwed up when I tried to resize a partition
[23:04] <kevinch> pxoto
[23:05] <pxoto> hey
[23:05] <kevinch> YES I GOT IT WORKING
[23:05] <pxoto> kevinch
[23:05] <pxoto> im on backtrack
[23:05] <kevinch> e2fsck got it working
[23:05] <xsyssyx> ciao
[23:05] <pxoto> hacker wannabe distribution
[23:06] <pxoto> ciao xsyssyx
[23:06] <xsyssyx> !list
[23:06] <pxoto> are you from china?
[23:06] <pxoto> somebody online>
[23:07] <_andyj__> Jordan_U: I would reinstall but this happened from a fresh install after first update/reboot
[23:08] <greasemonkey> Burned a ubuntu 12.04.1 bootable CD but boot kernel says it can't run because system requires 'pae'.  It's an HP/Compaq nc8000 laptop.  What's "pae"?
[23:11] <_andyj__> greasemonkey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE  which image did you burn i386 or amd64?
[23:12] <greasemonkey> Burned the i386 image.
[23:13] <_andyj__> does your machine have over 4GB of ram?
[23:13] <greasemonkey> Filename is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[23:13] <afuentes> when i try to boot up from a 12.10 usb i get this error  "error: symbol not found grub_efi_secure_boot" can anybody help me?
[23:14] <_andyj__> not sure why it is giving you that message but I don't think from my little bit of googling that your hardware would warrant PAE
[23:14] <sasuke> hi can anyone tell me How to migrate Thunderbird’s data&profile from Ubuntu to Windows 7
[23:15] <greasemonkey> HP/Compaq nc8000 laptop has 1GB ram
[23:16] <_andyj__> did you check that md5/sha before and after burn?  maybe it was a bad download?
[23:16] <afuentes> _andyj_, yup :)
[23:16] <afuentes> i always do
[23:16] <afuentes> :(
[23:16] <Patero-ng> anybody here wanna netplay
[23:18] <PJSingh5000> greasemonkey, I wonder if you've run into that "Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI)" that Microsoft proposed to prevent computers ceom loading non authorized OSs???
[23:18] <PJSingh5000> *ceom = from
[23:18] <Tex_Nick> afuentes : if you're trying to boot on a system that has winDoze 8 installed, the secure boot issue is probably the issue
[23:19] <greasemonkey> Haven't verified the sums after download--no errors or interruptions encountered during downloading.
[23:19] <PJSingh5000> afuentes, sorry that message was meant for you, nbot greasemonkey
[23:20] <afuentes> yup, i think i have some uefi or something... i already have installed along and its running :/
[23:20] <kullix> question: what program can i use to make a bootable windows 8 usb from Ubuntu?
[23:20] <mrhyde> hello I'm running ubuntu 12.04 on virtualbox, I installed updates and my video resolution has reduced
[23:20] <OerHeks> greasemonkey, download the precise non-pea mini.iso and install ubuntu-desktop manually ( or xubuntu/lubuntu) http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/
[23:21] <OerHeks> *non-pae
[23:21] <afuentes> i have been able to boot it with ubuntu 12.04... but i cant install from there coz a bug :(
[23:21] <afuentes> so i burned a 12.10 where is supposed to be fixed... but it wont even boot :(
[23:21] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:22] <afuentes> i already have debian installed :(
[23:22] <afuentes> it wasnt that hard
[23:23] <afuentes> and i dont remember any uefi s******
[23:23] <mrhyde> debian is nice to have a linux installation from scratch but ubuntu is easier and more straightforward and modern
[23:23] <afuentes> yup... what i meant is that i already installed some linux on it
[23:23] <Patero-ng> is it better to use linux on uefi?
[23:23] <afuentes> so i dont think did something ubuntu cant
[23:23] <Tex_Nick> afuentes : seet the ubottu factoid sent to you by OerHeks above
[23:24] <afuentes> so i dont think debian did something ubuntu installer cant
[23:24] <OerHeks> afuentes, i have no experience with uefi
[23:24] <OerHeks> but that wiki could be a help
[23:24] <doug1> ok, so how come /sbin/mkfs -t ext4 /dev/bcvg/log automatically mounts the volume, but /sbin/mkfs -t ext4 /dev/mapper/bcvg-log does not!?!?
[23:25] <sasuke> Hello , can any body answer to my question please. How to migrate Thunderbird’s data&profile from Ubuntu to Windows 7
[23:25] <afuentes> sasuke, there is a plugin for thunderbird to import and export
[23:25] <OerHeks> doug1, does /dev/mapper/bcvg-log exist ? ls -l /dev/mapper/  would show you
[23:25] <kaddi> hi guys :) I was wondering if there is a way to know what packages you no longer use or stuff I can safely uninstall witohut missing it
[23:26] <afuentes> otherwise, just localice the data folder and move them
[23:28] <sasuke> afuentes: ok let me check
[23:33] <sasuke> afuentes: one doubt, will it work from ubuntu to windows
[23:33] <greasemonkey> OerHeks, Thanks for the URL.  I pulled it and will try to boot from the mini.iso.  Hope it works.
[23:34] <KaRmA> do I need to set volume_normalization to "yes" in the config file for replay gain volume leveling to work, or does it work by default when my files have replaygain tags and it is set to 'track' ?
[23:35] <afuentes> sasuke, not sure... there is a import/export plugin for thunderbird with lots of options... I remember i used that in the end
[23:35] <afuentes> if you look for it in the plugins section it should show up
[23:35] <sasuke> ok
[23:42] <ubuntuaddicted> what does knotify4 do? it's taking up 1123m of virt memory and I need all the memory I can get. trying to play shank2 and record it with ffmpeg
[23:43] <ubuntuaddicted> also, what about console-kit-daemon?
[23:47] <ubuntuaddicted> hello?
[23:48] <ubuntuaddicted> i've never seen this so dead
[23:48] <gmachine_24> ubuntuaddicted, we're saving our energy for Christmas
[23:49] <gmachine_24> ubuntuaddicted, are you running a kde version
[23:49] <n00bzz> how do i set my timezone, systemwide? and get it to stick
[23:50] <gmachine_24> ubuntuaddicted, did you do a search for knotify4? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/736453
[23:51] <smkatz> terriblist, if you're still there, I did succeed in the drupal install
[23:51] <smkatz> thanks so much for your help
[23:51] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, when you say "systemwide", are you talking about a network or one computer
[23:51] <smkatz> also dcherniv
[23:51] <n00bzz> gmachine_24, one computer
[23:51] <smkatz> I also dpkg -r phpmyadmin
[23:52] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, click on the clock on your taskbar
[23:52] <gmachine_24> then click 'edit'
[23:52] <gmachine_24> click a few things to see what they do
[23:53] <n00bzz> sure, i can do that. but i want the time to stick when i reboot
[23:53] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, what happens when you reboot?
[23:54] <n00bzz> the time is funky again gmachine_24
[23:54] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, and are you talking about the time itself or just your time zone, such as EST?
[23:54] <gmachine_24> "funky" does not help
[23:55] <n00bzz> i have to reset the time everytime i boot
[23:55] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, how old is your computer?
[23:55] <n00bzz> about 12 months
[23:56] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, the only time I had that trouble was when my cmos battery died
[23:56] <gmachine_24> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:56] <walterwoj> n00bzz: The battery on your motherboard is prolly dead.
[23:56] <n00bzz> 12.1
[23:56] <n00bzz> it's only happened, since i installed ubuntu
[23:58] <kaddi> can i delete the content of "/var/lib/dpkg.backup" if I need more room, or is important info stored there?
[23:59] <gmachine_24> n00bzz, well, a cmos battery is cheap and will probably fix the problem
[23:59] <etfb> I installed Gnome Shell to see if it was better than Unity.  It wasn't, so I uninstalled.  How do I get Unity back?
[23:59] <gmachine_24> esp if you got the computer used or second hand or whatever they call it these days... "pre-owned"
[23:59] <etfb> I'd google it, but Firefox won't load now...
[23:59] <gmachine_24> etfb, you can choose which desktop gui to use @ signin