| phillw | Hi good people, any news on bug 964705 for ubuntu? Others seem to be taking it more seriously? | 00:31 |
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| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 964705 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964705 | 00:31 |
| phillw | it should be a really easy 'cherry pick'? | 00:32 |
| ScottK | phillw: It's really not an #ubuntu-release question. I'd talk to cyphermox. | 00:33 |
| phillw | ScottK: I know, but I start here and then you good people tell me where to go (politely :) ) | 00:33 |
| ScottK | phillw: That's not what this channel is for. | 00:36 |
| phillw | ScottK: please let me know which channel is? As I chase bugs up, I bounced around... that is not a problem for me. i learn more each time I chase stuff :) So, in this case... which channel should I ask on about debian having a fix that I want into ubuntu? | 00:39 |
| ScottK | #ubuntu-devel would be better. | 00:40 |
| phillw | thanks :) ... I enter that room rarely, but I will ask them. | 00:42 |
| phillw | ScottK: oh S#1T, it's looking like polkit :( | 01:47 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: I'm not quite sure what the issue is....by default network manager wants to create system-wide network connections, so you need to be an admin, else you need to uncheck the box. | 02:37 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: doesn't seem like a bug to me. | 02:37 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: Nor am I, my query to #ubuntu-devel is why has it been rated and fixed by others? | 02:39 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: rated and fixed? | 02:39 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: I'm not quite sure what that means | 02:40 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: openSUSE rated it critical.. Fix released. | 02:41 |
| phillw | Debian .. Fix released. | 02:41 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: yeah, debian fixed it so it works just like Ubuntu | 02:42 |
| mdeslaur | Install a PolicyKit pkla file which allows members of group netdev or sudo | 02:42 |
| mdeslaur | to create system-wide network connections without being prompted for the | 02:42 |
| mdeslaur | admin password. | 02:42 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: that's exactly how ubuntu behaves | 02:42 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: I'm not here for a fight of which is the better way to do things? All I want is no bugs reported :D | 02:43 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: well, that won't really happen. The ubuntu bug is about people wanting regular non-admin users to be able to create system-wide network connections without being in the admin group. That's not going to happen. | 02:44 |
| phillw | bug 1008344 | 02:45 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1008344 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "checks "admin" group membership instead of querying polkit" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008344 | 02:45 |
| phillw | does it? | 02:45 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: that's a completely different issue | 02:46 |
| mdeslaur | and yes, bug 1008344 does seem valid | 02:47 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1008344 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "checks "admin" group membership instead of querying polkit" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008344 | 02:47 |
| phillw | is it? so some one cannot connect via network is invalid, but attempting to change language is? | 02:48 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: two completely different bugs. The first some is that people don't want to be an admin to modify system network connections. That's a security issue, and the current behaviour is the correct behaviour. The second bug is that language-selector is checking groups itself, instead of relying on the groups configured in policykit | 02:50 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: the second bug is a valid issue, the first is not. | 02:50 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: please do note, I'm just being devils advocate and not "having a go" at you. I have been told that I can be 'head strong'. | 02:50 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: the two are _completely_ different issues and are unrelated. | 02:50 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: okies, so why has debian issued a fix and ubuntu not? | 02:51 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: don't worry, I have a nice hard shell :) | 02:51 |
| * phillw just popping out for nicotine :) | 02:51 | |
| mdeslaur | phillw: the debian bug that is linked is that their network manager was failing _completely_, so they fixed it by making it equivalent to the current ubuntu behaviour | 02:51 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: it's not the same bug at all | 02:52 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: but someone decided to link them, even though they are unrelated | 02:52 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: in that case, would you be so kind as to split it up? | 02:56 |
| phillw | I can only go off bug updates that I see. You people know much more about the 'innards' than me. | 02:57 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: I've taken the time to actually read through bug 964705 and I'm now more confused than I was before... | 03:16 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 964705 in NetworkManager "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/964705 | 03:16 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: when people 'decide' stuff, may be they should take into account people like jpujades ? | 03:21 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: he should read the policykit documentation to create his local modifications in the right place so they don't get overwritten | 03:52 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: with the greatest regard for you, and others who support versions of ed-ubuntu in its various forms... Maybe some one could actually reach out to him? | 03:54 |
| mdeslaur | phillw: it's a bug tracker, not a support desk. Feel free to write him if you'd like. | 03:54 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: well, that comes as spectacular fail? Is / Are there any 'support desk' people for Edu-buntu ? No, there are not. When people go the mile to install ubuntu as the system at a place of education, they are going out on a limb. I'm a bit down with your answer to that problem. :( | 03:58 |
| ScottK | phillw: Please take it elsewhere. This isn't a channel for arguing about bugs. | 03:59 |
| phillw | mdeslaur: if you wish to move from -devel and here as we get told off, please /j ##phillw my apoligies to ScottK | 04:01 |
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