[00:00] <gmachine_24> ..... I think
[00:00] <n00bzz> thanks gmachine_24, walterwoj1
[00:00] <Sepatar> hello
[00:00] <gmachine_24> etfb, well what desktop are you using then?
[00:01] <etfb> gmachine_24: Looks like old Gnome.  Applications and Places menu at the top, taskbar down the bottom.
[00:01] <gmachine_24> etfb, did you try to switch back to unity at the sign in window?
[00:01] <etfb> I'd forgotten I could set it at login.
[00:02] <etfb> Will try now.  Bye!
[00:02] <gmachine_24> log out; log in and let us know
[00:02] <gmachine_24> somewhere in there change the desktop
[00:02] <gmachine_24> Sepatar if you have a question or problem, state your businness................
[00:06] <puppy_parade> if I wanted to use iscsi to mount a zfs pool, would I need zfs installed on the client?
[00:08] <Azelphur> Trying to install Ubuntu and it just hangs here, any ideas? https://www.dropbox.com/s/1fgfc3fost5je7l/2012-12-22%2000.03.44.jpg?m
[00:11] <Jordan_U> puppy_parade: It depends. If the zfs pool contains something other than a zfs filesystem then you could have the server export the pool and then the client doesn't need to know anything about zfs.
[00:12] <machicola> Hello. I'm having issues with Ubuntu 11.10, as far as I can remember they started after I did a kernel upgrade to 3.1 and have gotten progressively worse after. After the kernel upgrade I immediately got the 'purple screen of death' when trying to boot with the newly installed 3.1 kernel. I subsequently used older kernel versions from that point on to bypass the issue. Just yesterday I did a 400mb update and now I get a black screen and no boot into Xwi
[00:12] <machicola> ndows. So I'm using windows 7 just to do IRC here. Any help would be appreicated, thanks
[00:12] <puppy_parade> thanks Jordan_U
[00:12] <gmachine_24> Azelphur, you have enough space etc. on your hd as asked?
[00:13] <Azelphur> gmachine_24: well, it hasn't even got to the partition wizard yet, but yes I do have a 250GB hdd in there
[00:14] <gmachine_24> Azelphur, I'm assuming this is a CD you burned from an iso download. Did you run checksum to make sure the iso is not corrupt?
[00:15] <gmachine_24> Azelphur, other than that, problems typically arise that can be fixed by burning the CD @ the slowest rate possible.
[00:15] <gmachine_24> Azelphur, assuming you have no hardware issues, etc.
[00:15] <Azelphur> usb
[00:15] <Azelphur> I'll try an integrity check
[00:16] <MrGizmo757> i have a question about installing Ubuntu to a USB stick. can sombody here help me out with my questions?
[00:16] <gmachine_24> MrGizmo757 you must ask the question(s)
[00:16] <gmachine_24> we don't read minds
[00:16] <machicola> I did already try booting up with 'nomodeset' by the way, it hasn't worked. Also, on the bootup with older versions at least I'm getting some commandline output and there is a 'starting to load fallback graffics devices [fail]' message
[00:17] <Jordan_U> puppy_parade: You're welcome.
[00:17] <MrGizmo757> Well of course
[00:17] <MrGizmo757> anyways. i want to install Ubuntu to a USB stick. but not as a live image. i want to be able to use it as a full OS. retaining all the stuff i put on it.
[00:18] <MrGizmo757> if i simply select the USB as the drive to use during the installation proscess with it work?
[00:18] <Jordan_U> MrGizmo757: Just do a normal installation, the same way you would to an internal drive.
[00:18] <Azelphur> gmachine_24: check finished with no errors
[00:19] <MrGizmo757> ok.  one more question.  if i install it that way can it be used in diffrent machines?  or only the one i install it from?   you know becuase of configuration with drivers or whatever.
[00:19] <machicola> i think i should have never updated :-( lol
[00:19] <slaptman> hello room :) does anyone know a way to get the weather and news to be displayed on desktop using unityunity
[00:19] <machicola> it was just so damn tempting at the time though
[00:20] <gmachine_24> machicola, I don't suppose you have a full back up somewhere
[00:21] <machicola> I think I may have installed ubuntu so that my home folder is backed up which is all i really care about but I would definitely want to check to be sure before I do anyting
[00:21] <machicola> which I'm not sure how to do
[00:21] <Gentoon> So how can I get an old fashioned Task Bar in Ubuntu Desktop/ Ubiquity whatever it is called..
[00:21] <Azelphur> seems to be working now for some reason, I think it didn't like me not having a mouse plugged in
[00:22] <machicola> i did manage to get to the command line somehow at one point
[00:22] <jrada> !help
[00:23] <machicola> gmachine_24, does it sound like I need to reinstall for the most part?
[00:23] <Gentoon> Anyone?
[00:24] <machicola> what is the best way to do diagnostics when getting a black or purple screen/freezing i.e. failing to boot into xwindows ?
[00:24] <machicola> is there a way to pause all of the CLI screen?
[00:24] <gmachine_24> machicola, I really don't know.
[00:24] <machicola> sometimes theres things that seem like evidence but too fast to read
[00:24] <kaddi> i need to free up 900MB on / to do the upgrade to 12.10, i've already done an autoremove and autoclean
[00:25] <machicola> ok
[00:25] <kaddi> my /home folder is on a separate partition, what can I do?
[00:25] <puppy_parade> is there a way to use second NICs on 2 machines to speed up concurrent data transfers with a direct connection?
[00:25] <machicola> how do you tell if your home folder is a seperate partition?
[00:25] <kaddi> well easiest thing is to remember from when you set it up >.>
[00:26] <gmachine_24> machicola, you can run $sudo gparted
[00:26] <gmachine_24> to see the partitions
[00:26] <kaddi> otherwise you can run df -h in command line and see if /home turns up as a partition
[00:26] <machicola> ok, ty
[00:26] <gmachine_24> or $sudo fdisk -l will tell you how many partitions you have
[00:26] <machicola> how many would I typically have if my home folder was partitioned
[00:26] <machicola> two?
[00:27] <machicola> ok
[00:27] <gmachine_24> machicola, at least 3
[00:27] <slaptman> ?
[00:27] <gmachine_24> machicola, root, home and swap
[00:27] <emily_> can anyone help me? I'm trying to upgrade my pgfplots package for LaTeX...using ubuntu 12.04
[00:27] <machicola> ok, thanks gmachine_24
[00:28] <lickalott> hello all..  jusr rebuilt my server.  have a fresh install of 12.10 on it now.  For some reason I can see the internal network (computer to computer) but i can't ping out or even ping my router.  I've added nameserver to the resolve.conf and restarted.  Any ideas?
[00:28] <gmachine_24> slaptman, you still looking for a weather and  news desktop app?
[00:29] <slaptman> yes please
[00:29] <daftykins> lickalott: got a default gateway?
[00:29] <lickalott> set it up when i set the static IP in "interfaces"
[00:30] <daftykins> uh-huh, got a gateway in there?
[00:30] <daftykins> confirm with route -n
[00:30] <lickalott> true
[00:30] <gmachine_24> slaptman, did you check the desktop apps?
[00:30] <lickalott> but....destination is 0.0.0.0
[00:31] <daftykins> lickalott: can you pastebin the output
[00:31] <machicola> im pretty sure my issue is actually the video driver , i have an ati radeon mobility, but not sure what to do
[00:31] <lickalott> http://pastebin.com/nhVr4SMw
[00:32] <lickalott> i'm ssh'd into it right now using the internal IP so I know the network card works.
[00:32] <daftykins> lickalott: ja that's fine. how strange, reboot didn't alleviate i take it?
[00:32] <lickalott> negative
[00:33] <lickalott> i can ping the host that I'm on right now (my laptop) but can't get to the router.... it's strange
[00:33] <gmachine_24> slaptman, the weather indicator was removed from the date/time app
[00:33] <Guest57164> ok im a geust
[00:33] <gmachine_24> gmachine_24 so you need to install it
[00:34] <daftykins> lickalott: can you get the web admin of the router? i take it it's not configured to ignore ping?
[00:34] <Guest57164> new linux user
[00:34] <daftykins> lickalott: ignore that, guess you set it up CLI only ;D
[00:34] <daftykins> although you could use lynx XD
[00:34] <gmachine_24> slaptman, check the software centre; there are weather apps etc there
[00:34] <lickalott> true daftykins
[00:34] <daftykins> lickalott: revert it to DHCP for a laugh and see what changes
[00:34] <lickalott> k
[00:34] <lickalott> brb
[00:34] <daftykins> lickalott: you could pastebin your interfaces too
[00:35] <Guest57164> so how is every one
[00:35] <shomon> hi, how do I get empathy working with msn messenger?
[00:35] <Guest57164> use pigdin
[00:35] <gmachine_24> Guest57164, you need to please ask a question or state your problem
[00:35] <kaddi> there's about 1GB of data in /var/tmp can I delete these files safely?
[00:36] <gmachine_24> this isn't a regular chat room
[00:36] <Guest57164> nope
[00:36] <daftykins> kaddi: they disappear every reboot. but yes
[00:36] <kaddi> daftykins: will they get recreated before reboot? i want to upgrade to 12.10 and that needs 4GB of free space
[00:37] <kaddi> i only have a 12GB partition, so it's a bit hard for me to make that kind of space.. i'm expecting that after the upgrade and with the packages delted from the cache, there will be more space left
[00:37] <lickalott> daftykins - http://pastebin.com/nj6WAdJr
[00:37] <kaddi> and then i could easily reboot and allow the files to repopulate
[00:37] <daftykins> kaddi: run 'sudo apt-get clean' to get rid of any packages you have atm too. they won't reappear on boot no
[00:37] <kaddi> i did already
[00:38] <kaddi> i also uninstalled all old kernels
[00:38] <kaddi> and ran an autoremove
[00:38] <daftykins> good good
[00:38] <kaddi> still lacking 900MBs though
[00:38] <kaddi> that's why i'm getting desperate
[00:38] <kaddi> what happened to ubuntu fitting on a CD >.>
[00:39] <daftykins> kaddi: you don't have any DVDs? or a flash drive?
[00:40] <kaddi> don't have a cd-drive and my flash drive, isn't that large either >.>
[00:40] <daftykins> lickalott: looks fine that, might be a hardware/driver quirk. no idea what to suggest next i'm afraid, maybe google for your hardware?
[00:40] <lickalott> dhcp works fine
[00:40] <lickalott> static gives me the finger
[00:40] <daftykins> =/
[00:40] <lickalott> did I not set up the interfaces file right?
[00:41] <kaddi> you wouldn't know of a way to get a list of programs that i haven't used in a long time and could remove, by chance?
[00:42] <daftykins> not me no
[00:43] <daftykins> kaddi: got any external HDDs?
[00:43] <kaddi> not with me
[00:43] <daftykins> an upgrade sounds way too risky in that situation tbh
[00:44] <kaddi> it's a dualboot and i have a bootable usb (xpud, only 64MB in size...take that ubuntu ;p)
[00:44] <kaddi> so i'm not worried about my data, as I know that I can recover that
[00:44] <daftykins> ouch
[00:44] <kaddi> xpud being a linux distro, and 64MB is it's size, not the flash drives one ;)
[00:47] <mertzz> halp ploXx
[00:47] <mertzz> hello
[00:47] <napster> How to stream the dmesg to tty?
[00:48] <afuentes> I think i removed my grub partition, i have gpt, uefi and all the stuff... this formating thing has gotten too complex for me :(
[00:48] <afuentes> can anybody help me? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1456025/ ?
[00:48] <Ambrose> napster: I don't think you can, but I could be wrong
[00:48] <napster> ok
[00:48] <Ambrose> napster: Why do you want to do that?
[00:48] <napster> just to get rid `tail -x` stuff
[00:49] <mertzz> i need help determining which i should do, ftp or http when downloading linux mint
[00:49] <Ambrose> napster: tail -x???
[00:49] <afuentes> mertzz, any of those are okay
[00:49] <napster> not very intuitive to execute dmesg every once in a while.
[00:50] <afuentes> napster, /var/log/messages
[00:50] <Ambrose> napster: There shouldn't be a need to, really.
[00:50] <afuentes> you only have to dmesg when looking for problems
[00:50] <afuentes> not once in a while
[00:50] <mertzz> not sure if there is a rule about links but - http://linuxfreedom.com/linuxmint/linuxmint.com//stable/14/linuxmint-14.1-mate-dvd-64bit.iso
[00:50] <mertzz> do i just click one of those
[00:50] <napster> yes I'm looking for problems
[00:50] <afuentes> you can tail -f /var/log/messages
[00:51] <afuentes> or just cat the file
[00:51] <napster> ok
[00:51] <napster> thanks afuentes Ambrose
[00:51] <Patero-ng> anybody wanna do a netplay with me
[00:52] <ShawnRisk> how come my ubuntu 12.10 can't connect to wireless internet when my mac and android phone can?
[00:53] <Gentoon> Is anyone here
[00:53] <Gentoon> I need paste.
[00:53] <mertzz> whats netplay
[00:53] <Patero-ng> is the multiplayer feature of zsnes
[00:54] <kaddi> paste.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <afuentes> anybody here understand uefi,efi, gpt, lvm ? :/
[00:57] <Guest57164> hi room
[00:57] <Ambrose> Hi, I'm trying to use tightvncserver on my Ubuntu 12.10 desktop, but when I start 'vncserver' and login with the client from my other PC, I only see the ubuntu background image (no icons, start menu, etc). I can right click and select a few basic options (new folder, change background image, etc) but can't really do anything. Anyone know what I need to do to get it to load the desktop program thing? Thx
[00:57] <lickalott> daftykins, apparently it doesn't like being setup statically
[00:58] <Guest57164> <
[00:58] <gmachine_24> afuentes, does that pastebin post mean you're having boot problems? sorry... I faded away there
[00:58] <lickalott> any ideas?  i have it ported through he.net and don't want to run the risk of the DHCP addy changing while I'm away
[00:58] <daftykins> lickalott: can you try and lock it down through your router's DHCP scope instead?
[00:58] <daftykins> static lease.
[00:58] <ShawnRisk> how come my ubuntu 12.10 can't connect to wireless internet when my mac and android phone can?
[00:58] <daftykins> lickalott: or if nobody else is around, make a DHCP pool of one addy :D
[00:58] <lickalott> ^5's daftykins....forgot I had that option
[00:59] <daftykins> np :)
[00:59] <afuentes> gmachine_24, yup, im having boot problems... this paste http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1456025/ is from boot-repair to help diagnose
[00:59] <afuentes> im not new in linux, but this has gotten quite complex since i used to format my partitions :(
[01:00] <afuentes> and i need help
[01:01] <gmachine_24> afuentes, yes, I see. That post is way above my pay grade, sorry.
[01:01] <KI4RO> Glad to see you're all here and doing well after 21 Dec 2012!
[01:02] <afuentes> gmachine_24, :(
[01:02] <Ambrose> KI4RO: Got a few more hours in this TZ, but glad to know :p
[01:03] <ShawnRisk> seems no one can help me
[01:03] <KI4RO> Ambrose, LOL...It was supposed to happen at 1111 UTC, so you're safe...Happy Holidays
[01:03] <DarwinSurvivor> I just installed kde (kde-plasma-desktop) and it wouldn't log in due to a memory problem. I fixed it with "sudo ln -s /tmp /var/tmp" but I'm worried it may be a sign of something worse being wrong (I shouldn't have had to do that...)
[01:04] <Ambrose> KI4RO: Ah shit, didn't know, well, guess I won't sent this nasty e-mail to my boss after all then :(
[01:04] <enigmuriatic> hey everyone, i have a few questions about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[01:05] <dr_willis>  Ambrose  for vnc - you really should set it up to use a very lightweight desktop. or just a window manager. by default it may be trying to use UNITY witch will not work very well over vnc
[01:05] <enigmuriatic> first: when i "dd the whole USB stick to that partition." in step 4 of the Macbook Air section (that's what I have), do dd the actual contents of the usb or do i dd the img file
[01:06] <enigmuriatic> and what command do I use for either?
[01:06] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  i tend to use just openbox over vnc.  it can get very laggy with a full desktop
[01:06] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Ok I will check that out, thx
[01:06] <dr_willis> DarwinSurvivor:  thats weird.. the only thing in /var/tmp here is a kde tmp file.. nothing in /tmp// that i see kde related.
[01:07] <dr_willis> not sure why kde would use /var/tmp instead of /tmp/
[01:07] <Ambrose> dr_willis: I think it might have something to do with booting into text only (init 2 sorta deal), so I'm just changing it back to the default to see if that makes any difference first
[01:08] <KI4RO> Will an IPOD work on an UBUNTU machine?
[01:08] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  vnc can share the current desktop (how vino works) or can have its own stand alone hidden desktops. (how tightvncserver, and vnc4server work)
[01:08] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  you can edit your .vnc/xstartup to run whatever desktop or windowmanager you want
[01:08] <gmachine_24> KI4RO, if you mean can you lead music, etc., yes
[01:08] <gmachine_24> *load music
[01:08] <w0rm-_x> hi, is there a program in Ubuntu where I can link my Hotmail inbox to, instead of using Hotmail website every time?
[01:08] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  text only mode shouldent matter.
[01:09] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  unless kdes kdm is somehow setting up a tmp file for the users
[01:09] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Yeah the xstartup is set to stat Xsession (or something)
[01:09] <KI4RO> gmachine_24, Yes, that is what I meant and thank you
[01:09] <Ambrose> dr_willis: I created a test icon in VNC and now when I reboot into full window mode that icon is on my 'regular' desktop when I physically login
[01:09] <Ambrose> Wasn't expectingi that
[01:09] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  perhaps set it to run whatver command starts  kde if thats what you want. But i always set mine to run a simple window manager . like openbox. or jwm
[01:09] <gmachine_24> KI4RO well once upon a time I used gtkpod; I don't know if that is still around
[01:09] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  your users home is the same.. so it would be the same..
[01:10] <Ambrose> Right
[01:10] <_un_skumpic> ATTENTION! [01:10] <dr_willis> Ambrose:   You CAN have issues ifyou are logged in  to the machine locally and run the same window manager/desktop via vnc. :) or at least it used to be an issue.
[01:10] <_un_skumpic> ATTENTION! [01:10] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Think I'm going to look into vino, thx for the tip
[01:11] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  you want to share the current visible desktop? or have your own hidden desktop? with persistance :) stays alive after you close the client.
[01:11] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Well, at first I wanted the seperate desktops, but now I think it'll be better to have one common desktop between physical and virtual sessions
[01:11] <macs> can anyone suggest a channel for a unbuntu beginner?
[01:12] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Since I rarely use the physical setup, but once and a while it'll be nice if it's the same one that I'm used to using over vnc/rdp whatever
[01:12] <gmachine_24> macs, this is sort of for beginners
[01:13] <Ambrose> dr_willis: You recommend vino then?
[01:13] <gmachine_24> macs, and of course all the forums
[01:13] <gmachine_24> OK I know this is off topic but today was the day when the so-called Anonymous were going to reveal their latest 'exploit'
[01:13] <jrib> gmachine_24: #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[01:14] <macs> tnx gmachine, guess I'll hang around a little longer, I may learn someth9ing
[01:15] <gmachine_24> !patience
[01:16] <gmachine_24> macs, most people here have been at this for years.
[01:19] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  i never really want to ever share the 'current' visible desktop. ;) i ssh in, start a vnc server on a remote box then connect via a vnc client,.
[01:19] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  i find the vino way to share the currentt desktop is to sluggish
[01:19] <Ambrose> dr_willis: Gotcha.
[01:20] <Ambrose> dr_willis: I just set it up, it's pretty simple. For my needs it'll do the trick :)
[01:20] <dr_willis> Ambrose:  if it lags you to death youknow what to do.,.
[01:20] <joggers> In ubuntu 12.10 how to you reinstall with a template?
[01:20] <Ambrose> Used to have a RaspberryPi + tightvnc + VLC + VLCRemote (for Android) to control the audio output, but I think this will work just as good
[01:21] <Ambrose> dr_willis: But yeah, will have to see how the preformance is now that X is running 24/7
[01:21] <Guest96298> wine question: is there any way to dump print data sent from a wine running app into a file without it being modified by wine (no wineps.drv, winprint, etc.), that is, some kind of piping?
[01:23] <\\Mr_C\\> how does the ls.c32 command work in syslinux?
[01:26] <joggers> In ubuntu 12.10 how to you reinstall with a template?
[01:34] <chazword> Using mdadm I accidentally added one drive to the wrong array.  It's now listed as a spare of md0 instead of md1.  I think it's just the UUID that got changed.  Is there an easy way to fix this?
[01:35] <Nightwatch> remove the drive from array
[01:35] <sp00ky> so I don't have enough free disk space on /boot to run updates.  what files can I remove from that directory to clean things up?
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[01:35] <chazword> Yes, but now the UUID is different, so I can't add it back to the old array.
[01:36] <daftykins> Guest57164: leave plz.
[01:36] <Guest57164> #ff48448  hello
[01:36] <Ambrose> lol
[01:36] <Nightwatch> chazword > http://itooktheredpill.dyndns.org/2010/change-uuid-of-a-mdadm-partition/
[01:36] <Nightwatch> try that
[01:37] <daftykins> sp00ky: if you have multiple kernels installed, remove one (or more)
[01:37] <Guest57164> why do i have to leave
[01:38] <topper4125> !test | Guest57164
[01:38] <Guest57164> new user
[01:39] <Guest57164> just getting tips
[01:39] <topper4125> !irc | guest57164
[01:39] <chazword> Nightwatch: Damn, going to have to pull out a hex editor, huh?  Well I think you found the one thing I needed and couldn't figure out.  This would probably also work for one with a zero'd superblock right?
[01:40] <Guest57164> im nott a dunb shit irc inter net rely
[01:40] <daftykins> sp00ky: any luck?
[01:40] <topper4125> !language | Guest57164
[01:40] <Guest57164> im trying to learn linux
[01:41] <Guest57164> sorry
[01:41] <topper4125> !new | Guest57164
[01:42] <Guest57164> ok
[01:42] <Guest57164> sorry
[01:42] <Guest57164> im just listening
[01:42] <jbates58> #newznab
[01:42] <jbates58> join #newznab
[01:43] <unheeding> how would i report this bug:  I clicked another song just as the current song was finished playing, the UI shows the next song being played, but the audio is from the song I clicked on.
[01:43] <Guest57164> so i learn to install progz
[01:43] <Guest57164> but i need root
[01:43] <unheeding> right, so you "sudo"
[01:43] <disto> Hej i need help
[01:44] <unheeding> disto, shoot
[01:44] <disto> i just installed Ubuntu 12.10 however it freezes
[01:44] <Guest57164> how do i get root
[01:44] <unheeding> dont' ask questions about asking questions, just ask
[01:44] <disto> I only see a disgusting purpe graphic and mouse cursor
[01:44] <disto> but there is nothing else on the screen
[01:44] <disto> why ?
[01:44] <unheeding> Guest57164, you put "sudo" in front of the command.  It's short for SUperuser DO
[01:45] <Guest57164> i tryed
[01:45] <unheeding> okay
[01:45] <unheeding> you can also... and this is dangerous
[01:45] <Guest57164> sudo apt-get install root donty work
[01:45] <unheeding> oh you don't need to install root
[01:45] <unheeding> root is an account on your computer
[01:45] <disto> would someone care about my problem ?
[01:45] <disto> that Ubuntu sucks! please help!
[01:46] <disto> it freezes i have no control on my computer after i installed it!
[01:46] <sp00ky> daftykins, I have the following files in that directory:  abi-3.2.0-*-generic, config-3.2.0-*-generic, initrd.img-3.2.0-*-generic, System.map-3.2.0-*-generic, vmlinuz-3.2.0-*-generic
[01:46] <unheeding> disto, it could be because your computer can't run 3D effects
[01:46] <sp00ky> daftykins, which ones can I  remove?
[01:46] <disto> neither mouse nor keyboard are operational!
[01:46] <topper4125> Guest57164 to install firefox for example the command would be : sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:46] <unheeding> have you tried Xubuntu?
[01:46] <Guest57164> how do i get rooot
[01:46] <unheeding> I don't recommend this
[01:46] <bazhang> Guest57164, use sudo
[01:46] <unheeding> but if you go "sudo su" you can become root
[01:46] <disto> unheeding what i should do to make it run 3d effects or at least cancel 3d effects ?
[01:46] <Guest57164> i have installed progz that need root
[01:47] <bazhang> unheeding thats not correct
[01:47] <Guest57164> sudo dont do it
[01:47] <unheeding> bazhang, do tell
[01:47] <mike024> guest57164: right click and run with admin rights or something like that wording
[01:47] <bazhang> Guest57164, sure it does
[01:47] <Guest57164> ok i will try
[01:47] <daftykins> sp00ky: any one that's not currently being used. do you know how to use pastebin? i'll help you
[01:47] <disto> unheeding this is the computer i removed Windows 7 do you think it's not capable to run on 3d effects ?
[01:47]  * chazword thinks you guys are being trolled
[01:48] <unheeding> well, it sounds like the x server is shitting itself
[01:48] <bazhang> no cursing please
[01:48] <unheeding> that could be drivers
[01:48] <topper4125> distro, do you have the drivers installed for the video card?
[01:48] <unheeding> bazhang, lol.  I will try to use better analogies.
[01:48] <daftykins> sp00ky: oh saw your other message, sounds like you've only got one kernel in that folder. did you install with manual partitioning?
[01:48] <disto> oh my god! I should have install Pardus!! I knew it! I'M so stupid!
[01:49] <bazhang> disto, wrong channel
[01:49] <Guest57164> ok
[01:49] <sp00ky> daftykins, so here's ls /boot:  http://pastebin.com/0SX9a7rm
[01:49] <sp00ky> daftykins, there was no manual partitioning on this installation
[01:49] <daftykins> sp00ky: ah no you do have tonnes, ok. one sec lemme type
[01:49] <disto> topper4125 yes i have drivers installed for the vid-card
[01:50] <Guest57164> so i need root for zenmap
[01:50] <topper4125> !gksu | Guest57164
[01:50] <mike024> sp00ky: please give output of uname -r
[01:51] <daftykins> sp00ky: run "uname -a" to see which one is currently booted (no doubt 3.2.0-34) then you can uninstall the old with "apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic" and so on, replacing the -23 of course
[01:52] <sp00ky> mike024, daftykins, http://pastebin.com/16hnCHxn
[01:53] <Guest57164> nope dont work
[01:53] <sp00ky> daftykins, can I remove the previous versions of the other files as well?
[01:53] <mike024> sp00ky: So just remove all all those using what daftykins told you
[01:53] <mike024> sp00ky: those commands will get rid of all of tehm
[01:53] <daftykins> sp00ky: they should have gone auto once you run the command i mentioned
[01:53] <mike024> sp00ky: make sure you use that command and not try to manually remove them :)
[01:54] <JoccE> Hello :) Anyone know if it is possible to transfer the data showed in the "screen" application to a PHP file live? (A kind of application monitor)
[01:54] <neo69> hi
[01:54] <JoccE> Just want it too show the data on the screen, not be able to do anything
[01:54] <mike024> JoccE: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/bash-how-to-redirect-output-to-file-and-still-have-it-on-screen-412611/
[01:55] <neo69> when I try to look for updates I get this error "Error http://ppa.launchpad.net precise/main Sources
[01:55] <neo69> 404 Not Found"
[01:55] <JoccE> Thanks!
[01:55] <neo69> whet should I do?
[01:55] <mike024> JoccE: the short of it is tee is useful :)
[01:55] <Guest57164> 404
[01:55] <Guest57164> never found
[01:55] <mike024> neo69: ping ppa.launchpad.net
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[01:56] <Guest57164> ping of death
[01:56] <Guest57164> nope
[01:56] <bazhang> Guest57164, stop that
[01:56] <neo69> mike024: it's ok
[01:56] <Guest57164> ok
[01:56] <neo69> mike024: ping works ok
[01:56] <mike024> neo69: did you try sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <mike024> neo69: I assume that's what you're doing?
[01:59] <mike024> neo69: also try(for shits and giggles) sudo apt-get check
[02:00] <Guest57164> update works
[02:00] <unheeding> HEY MIKE, CUT THAT SHIT OUT
[02:00] <unheeding> I mean
[02:00] <unheeding> crap out
[02:00] <FloodBot1> unheeding: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <topper4125> !language
[02:00] <unheeding> I'm a professional at language.
[02:00] <daftykins> !op
[02:01] <neo69> mike024: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1456120/
[02:01] <elky> unheeding, stop that
[02:01] <Guest57164> need root
[02:01] <nobriel> join #asterisk
[02:01] <bazhang> Guest57164, we told you
[02:01] <Guest57164> well help me
[02:01] <bazhang> !work | Guest57164
[02:01] <unheeding> okay elky I will cease and desist.
[02:02] <Guest57164> no
[02:02] <Guest57164> i study
[02:02] <Guest57164> did windows now linux
[02:02] <bazhang> Guest57164, please tell us exactly what does not "work" stop asking for root
[02:02] <neo69> mike024: that's from the sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <neo69> mike024: the last part
[02:03] <Guest57164> thats what i need for zenmap
[02:03] <mike024> neo69: please do a sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get check ; sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <mike024> neo69: probably more than you need, but if one doesn't work the other sometimes fixes it :)
[02:04] <bazhang> !gksudo | Guest57164 here again
[02:04] <w0rm-_x> what does sudo apt-get clean do?
[02:04] <mike024> w0rm-_x: man apt-get and type /clean
[02:05] <mike024> w0rm-_x: and then hit n to go down :)
[02:05] <w0rm-_x> thanks mike024
[02:05] <Guest57164> ok im at run help
[02:06] <mike024> w0rm-_x: Sorry for being a bit snotty :)
[02:06] <neo69> mike024: still getting errors :)
[02:06] <daftykins> Guest57164: 'gksudo zenmap'
[02:06] <neo69> mike024: :(
[02:06] <mike024> neo69: hmm. Interesting same errors?
[02:06] <xwalk> Where is documentation usually found on a Linux system? I can never remember.
[02:06] <xwalk> I'm referring to things not doc'd in the man pages.
[02:07] <w0rm-_x> mike024 not at all
[02:07] <Guest57164> thank u
[02:07] <yeats> xwalk: try /usr/share/doc
[02:07] <neo69> mike024: yes
[02:07] <Guest57164> its working thank u
[02:07] <mike024> neo69: ok lets try a little harder
[02:08] <mike024> neo69: go to /var/lib/apt
[02:09] <mike024> neo69: so cd /var/lib/apt
[02:09] <mike024> neo69: mv lists lists.old
[02:10] <Guest57164> so i need more progz
[02:10] <mike024> neo69: then try sudo apt-get udpate
[02:10] <mike024> neo69: *update
[02:10] <Guest57164> i can install
[02:10]  * disto is now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (log\on pager\on)
[02:10] <Guest57164> new to linux
[02:10] <Guest57164> i love it
[02:11] <daftykins> useless ops.
[02:11] <Patero-ng> Guest57164 you love it until it breaks
[02:12] <KaRmA> join #mpd
[02:13] <KaRmA> lol ~_~
[02:13] <unheeding> no advertising
[02:13] <unheeding> !advertising
[02:13] <KaRmA> I missed a /
[02:13] <KaRmA> fuck face.
[02:13] <unheeding> hey!
[02:13] <mike024> neo69: so what we did was moved the old lists to a temp directory so that they wouldn't be seen by apt-get and then repopulated the list. I moved instead of deleting so that if something goes terribly wrong we can undo
[02:13] <topper4125_> !language
[02:13] <unheeding> that was not necessary
[02:13] <KaRmA> what a bunch of tools
[02:13] <unheeding> apologize NOW
[02:13] <Guest57164> i will reboot
[02:14] <Guest57164> it not thay tough
[02:14] <IdleOne> unheeding: take a down a notch or two please
[02:14] <unheeding> this is my zero man
[02:14] <Fudge> chill pill
[02:14] <ceradon> Can some help me please? I have a corrupted flash drive that doesn't allow me to write to it? Any ideas as to fixing this?
[02:14] <Guest57164> i learn to install
[02:14] <ceradon> someone*
[02:14] <neo69> mike024: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1456150/
[02:14] <Fudge> ceradon  have you checked it with fsck
[02:15] <mike024> neo69: oh boy. I'm blind
[02:15] <Guest57164> i mastered windows
[02:15] <Guest57164>  now linux
[02:15] <ceradon> Fudge, What's that?
[02:15] <mike024> neo69: You added a ppa at some point. Just remove that ppa
[02:15] <w0rm-_x> good for you Guest57164
[02:15] <Guest57164> thank u
[02:15] <xangua> neo69: that repository doesn't have packages for precise
[02:15] <Fudge> ceradon  file system check, usually one would boot live media like usb or ubuntu cd and use gparted to check the partition for you or command line fsck /dev/sda1 which ever your drive partition is
[02:15] <Guest57164> i like linux more
[02:16] <w0rm-_x> Yup you gonna have  a lot of fun guarantee
[02:19] <agrippaz_> 12.10 I installed each one of the nVidia drivers on my machine with GTS-250 and now I can't get back to nouveau. i selected it in the hardware drivers area of software sources
[02:19] <agrippaz_> in the system settings now the display only does 800x480 or so
[02:19] <agrippaz_> been struggling all day. any ideas?
[02:20] <ceradon> Fudge, I ran sudo fsck /dev/sdc1, what does that do? Do you want me to paste the output?
[02:20] <Fudge> ceradon  is sdc1 an extra hard drive?
[02:21] <ceradon> Fudge, no it's the flash drive.
[02:21] <magn3ts_> I'm going to cry. I can't get the wifi to work on my MBA to save my freaking life. I can build Wayland and GTK and run a nightly kernel, but Wifi is impossible.
[02:21] <agrippaz_> ubuntu makes me cry too
[02:21] <magn3ts_> Maybe the bcm kernel source package doesn't build on purpose because it's broken or something.
[02:22] <w0rm-_x> I make ubuntu cry
[02:22] <Fudge> ceradon  if you install gparted or already have it installed, for you I would suggest you run sudo gparted and right click the thumb drive and check, then apply
[02:23] <eruditehermit> hey, does anyone know how I can tell if my HDD is in AHCI mode or RAID mode or IDE directly from Ubuntu?
[02:23] <magn3ts_> I've had this same issue for the last 5 years, it's incredibly disheartening to come back year after year to find the wifi support so miserable. I'd kill to keep ubuntu on my desktop but everytime I'm driven back to install OS X.
[02:24] <magn3ts_> It doesn't help that one of the drivers is broken - the DKMS module fails to build in 12.10 despite that it was an issue raised in 12.04 as well. Worked around that only to find out that this driver is no better than the original that it ships with out of the box.
[02:24] <Guest57164> thanks for the root
[02:24] <Fudge> magn3ts_  can you look in system settings additional drivers?
[02:24] <magn3ts_> Further, if you make the mistake of installing the bcm-kernel-source, removing it leaves you with *no* drivers.
[02:25] <Fudge> if there are broken dkms modules perhaps dpkg-reconfiguring them will build into the kernel again
[02:25] <magn3ts_> Fudge: the Additional Drivers in software sources is the bcmwl-kernel-source package. I'm currently using it. Fudge, no, it's broken as in the includes in one of the .c files is simply wrong and it hasn't been fixed.
[02:25] <magn3ts_> I fixed it myself, ran dpkg-reconfigure and now have a wifi card that only works when the AC is plugged in :(
[02:26] <magn3ts_> (and if I remove bcmwl-kernel-source it does not fail back over to the original driver. at this point, I'd be happy with that, even if it means my internet crawls at dial up speed)
[02:27] <Guest57164> thank u for the root
[02:27] <Guest57164> int return
[02:27] <Fudge> magn3ts_  that is weird, are there bugs on the problem and can you submit a patch for inclusion for updating
[02:28] <magn3ts_> Both were already done for 12.04 and there is an outstanding issue for 12.10 also.
[02:28] <Guest57164> int return = false
[02:28] <Fudge> oh mate... I can see your frustration then
[02:28] <magn3ts_> Like I said, it seems to have regressed in 12.04->12.10.
[02:28] <Guest57164> "()
[02:28] <bazhang> !ot | Guest57164
[02:28] <Fudge> wtf Guest57164
[02:28] <magn3ts_> :) like I said, I've exhausted quite a few different things.
[02:28] <Guest57164> sorry
[02:28] <magn3ts_> worst part is, it works *really* well when the ac is plugged in.
[02:29] <koppe> power will do that to electronics...
[02:29] <Fudge> is it that package which is causing that or something else like cpufreqd tha tmay be steeling power
[02:30] <magn3ts_> Fudge: I'm not sure, I'm having a hard time knowing how to debug, that is the question that I think is important at this stage though.
[02:30] <Fudge> magn3ts_  i donno mate, start with who maintains it or go see if the same is apparent in debian
[02:31]  * magn3ts_ has a tear roll down his cheek
[02:31] <magn3ts_> Thanks for listening Fudge :)
[02:31] <Guest57164> thanks for the root
[02:32] <magn3ts_> Guest57164: Is there a reason you keep saying that?
[02:33] <Fudge> magn3ts_  np i would say its a text tirgger for thanks
[02:33] <Fudge> trigger
[02:33] <Fudge> thanks prbo triggers it, xdcc or some crap
[02:34] <Guest57164> yes
[02:34] <Guest57164> like i said
[02:34] <Guest57164> learning
[02:35] <IdleOne> thanks Fudge I'm testing
[02:35] <IdleOne> maybe not
[02:36] <Fudge> Guest57164  just be aware mate that if your irc client is spitting out random things you may be flamed or kicked out of some channels if you are mistaken as a bot
[02:37] <Guest57164> nott a bot c3l1
[02:37] <magn3ts_> Sigh, can someone tell me the difference between broadcom-sta-{source,dkms} at least?
[02:38] <Guest57164> boots = 0
[02:38] <Fudge> magn3ts_  any dkms I believe is supposed to detect new kernels and build into it for when you reboot
[02:38] <Guest57164> no packet
[02:38] <magn3ts_> Yeah, but the -source package wants to /remove/ the dkms pkg
[02:38] <Guest57164> aux con null
[02:38] <Guest57164> good to use
[02:39] <Guest57164> packet =0
[02:39] <Flannel> Guest57164: Please stop that.
[02:39] <Guest57164> sorry
[02:40] <Fudge> Guest57164  do you have any ubuntu related questions mate? otherwsie you should leave, fix your irc client and then return when you require support
[02:40] <JPMH> how do we get Guest kicked?
[02:40] <Guest57164> no
[02:40] <Guest57164> sorry
[02:41] <Guest57164> im going off windows
[02:41] <Fudge> JPMH  not sure, hopefully an op has eyes on, because he is not fixing his script
[02:42] <JPMH> its not a script problem - he is a troll
[02:43] <magn3ts_> jesus, the broadcom-sta-dkms has the same problems with the source code
[02:43] <Fudge> !ops
[02:44] <Flannel> Fudge: yes?
[02:44] <Fudge> hi Flannel  regarding Guest57164  if you notice our attempts to help him stop trolling, we just get sorry and it continues
[02:45] <Fudge> magn3ts_  you could get the package source and try and see what is going wrong in the pre and post install scripts
[02:46] <magn3ts_> Fudge: it's the same problem, both of these packages try to include asm/system.h which doesn't exist anymore, period.
[02:46] <Guest57164> ya
[02:46] <Fudge> magn3ts_  see if changelogs say why and bring it to package maintaners attention? unless its directly from debian in that case talk with them
[02:46] <Guest57164> thanks for the root
[02:47] <magn3ts_> it's also already flagged in Launchpad
[02:47] <Fudge> magn3ts_  has it been assigned to anyone?
[02:47] <magn3ts_> I don't know what the deal is. Either way, this didn't fix my problem anyway. Modprobe'd "wl" and I still have no darn devices.
[02:47] <magn3ts_> No.
[02:48] <magn3ts_> here's the STA one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/+bug/1069998
[02:48] <magn3ts_> The bcmwl-kernel-source one is assigned at least: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/994255
[02:49] <Fudge> does apport let you submit more info i donno mate, just try to get hold of maintainer, best way I guess
[02:50] <magn3ts_> Phew, finally got it to unload the bcmwl-kernel-source driver and just utilize the broadcom-sta driver. (Which means the "Additional Drivers" dialog broke the revert process, nice.)
[02:50] <magn3ts_> Somehow this makes me think that not a lot of testing happens on Mac devices. I'll do some more investigation and write a blog post and hope that I can get it in front of the right eyeballs.
[02:51] <Fudge> good luck magn3ts_
[02:52] <chuckie> im back
[02:52] <Guest81729> do not boot me im sorry for being a douch
[02:54] <magn3ts_> Then stop spamming? Find some other channel to test on, sheesh.
[02:54] <bazhang> Guest81729, take all chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <magn3ts_> Okay, I've concluded it must be a power saving thing.
[03:01] <magn3ts_> No idea how to fix this though.
[03:02] <magn3ts_> Or why someone's script would have this setting in it. That's what I get for trusting the "you can safely run this script" nonsense.
[03:06] <natarajan> #vnc
[03:06] <natarajan> i have problem in setting up vnc in ubuntu. any help?
[03:10] <magn3ts_> # enable power save on wlan <-  I bet this is the source of all of my nightmares.
[03:11] <magn3ts_> Nope. The driver I'm using doesn't use wl.
[03:11] <magn3ts_> Okay, I'm offering $50 paypal to anyone who can tell me how to fix thsi
[03:13] <w0rm-_x> magn3ts_, fix what?
[03:15] <magn3ts_> That after about 3 minutes off my power supply my wireless stops working. Happens with both the broadcom-sta-dkms and the bcmwl-kernel-source drivers
[03:15] <w0rm-_x> I would help you for fre
[03:16] <w0rm-_x> only if I knew the answer, good luck with that
[03:20] <john1> hi very1
[03:20] <john1> hi every1
[03:20] <john1> i want ask something
[03:20] <john1> can u help me
[03:20] <magn3ts_> just ask.
[03:21] <john1> can ubuntu work on my netbook
[03:21] <john1> asus 1015CX
[03:21] <john1> or i must download UNR
[03:21] <magn3ts_> john1: First Google result for "asus 1015cx ubuntu": http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201203-10687/
[03:22] <john1> thx
[03:22] <magn3ts_> Looks like it should work fine, looks like there are lots of ppl in the forum using it.
[03:22] <PJSingh5000> magn3ts_, it does say, "Standard images of Ubuntu may not work at all on the system or may not work well, though Canonical and computer manufacturers will try to certify the system with future standard releases of Ubuntu."
[03:24] <PJSingh5000> john1, nevertheless, it is promising that they do offer the ASUS EeePC with Ubuntu pre installed.
[03:25] <m0ka> im having a error effective uid is not 0
[03:25] <m0ka> my lap cant use internet even
[03:25] <magn3ts_> PJSingh5000: yeah, I think that's a generic disclaimer, plus john1's gone :)
[03:26] <m0ka> hello ?
[03:26] <PJSingh5000> magn3ts_, he probably couldn't wait to install ubuntu on his eepc!
[03:26] <m0ka> anyone for me ?
[03:30]  * m0ka hello ?
[03:31] <Pros977> Greetings
[03:35] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, just ask your question.  If someone has the knowledge to help with your problem, they'll let you know.
[03:36] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, i did
[03:36] <m0ka> im having a error effective uid is not 0
[03:36] <m0ka> my lap cant use INTERNET even
[03:37] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, oh, I see it further up.
[03:38] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, problem is no body replied
[03:38] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, when do you get this error?  What are you attempting to do?.. just connect to internet?
[03:39] <m0ka> nothing I accidentally added /home/myaccount 777 permission
[03:39] <m0ka> after that I started to get this error
[03:39] <m0ka> now I can run any sudo command
[03:40] <m0ka> PJSingh5000,
[03:40] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, so you've granted full access to your home folder to everyone.
[03:40] <m0ka> i guess PJSingh5000
[03:40] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, you did this on the commandline, using chmod?
[03:40] <m0ka> how can I fix it
[03:41] <m0ka> chmod
[03:41] <m0ka> I dnt know what are the permission it had and can I do without having sudo
[03:42] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, one sec...
[03:42] <Flannel> m0ka: You can change the permissions on your home folder without sudo, yes.
[03:42] <m0ka> Flannel, thanks
[03:43] <m0ka> if you can tell me how . that would be great i want to have the default permissions
[03:43] <m0ka> Flannel,
[03:43] <Flannel> m0ka: Is that the exact command you ran? are you sure?
[03:43] <m0ka> yes
[03:44] <m0ka> actually I didnt run it . one of my friend did . thats what he said what he did
[03:44] <Flannel> m0ka: Alright, to set it back, `chmod 700 /home/myaccount`, but I don't think that's the command, or at least not the only one, since that wouldn't cause a sudo error like that.
[03:44] <m0ka> Flannel,
[03:46] <m0ka> ok
[03:46] <m0ka> wait
[03:46] <m0ka> i'll restart and see
[03:46] <Leif> I'm on ubuntu 12.10 (System76 pangolin performance), and whenver I set a program to start in fullscreen mode, it only shows the top quorter of the screen.
[03:46] <Flannel> m0ka: restarting shouldn't matter at all.
[03:46] <Leif> Does anyone know what would cause that and how to make it show the whole application?
[03:46] <Leif> THank you.
[03:47] <m0ka> :/ lol Flannel already did
[03:47] <PJSingh5000> Flannel, would not m0ka need to include the -R switch with chmod?
[03:47] <Leif> I have no idea how to go about debugging this.
[03:48] <Flannel> PJSingh5000: Not if he didn't include the -R the first time (which he claimed not to).  But even with -R, he wouldn't get that error.  Other errors, yes, but not that error.
[03:48] <Flannel> PJSingh5000: And if he did, simply adding recursion to that command wouldn't be a correct fix anyway.
[03:49] <PJSingh5000> Leif, try going to "CompizConfig Settings Manager", then select "Composite", then check "Undirect Full Screenwindows"
[03:50] <PJSingh5000> Flannel, it looks to me like m0ka is trying to run a command that requires root privileges, and the system is warning him that he is not user 0 (root) ???
[03:50] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, yes thats what happening
[03:51] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Interesting, it worked, but I would also like it to fill the whole screen rather than remaining small.
[03:51] <Flannel> m0ka: What command are you running when you get that error?
[03:51] <PJSingh5000> Flannel, it sounds like m0ka friend tried to get around this by setting permissions on home folder to rwx all.
[03:51] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Is that possible? Otherwise thanks.
[03:51] <Flannel> PJSingh5000: We certainly don't have all of the information, this is correct
[03:52] <PJSingh5000> Leif, well, Compiz does not work well with full screen windows.  This is a work-around that might help.  See if it works, if not, put it back.  (They leave it off by default because it is a bit "glitchy.").  Give it a shot.
[03:54] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Hmm...thanks. I'll see if I can tweek it to work.
[03:54] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Basically, what's happening now is that it just popps up in the upper left corner without resizing anything.
[03:55] <m0ka> Flannel, when I do chmod -R 700 /home/account . Im getting operation not permitted
[03:55] <Flannel> m0ka: Where did the -R come from?
[03:55] <PJSingh5000> Leif, that is wierd.  I guess you can put it back.  What graphich chip does your machine have?
[03:55] <Leif> intell hd 4000
[03:55] <m0ka> Flannel, just wanted to see what happens
[03:55] <Leif> PJSingh5000: intell hd 4000
[03:56] <Leif> PJSingh5000: It's just a syste76 machine
[03:56] <PJSingh5000> Leif, one sec, let me check something...
[03:56] <m0ka> Im not sure what he exactly did . only thing he did . use chmod 777 on /home/account
[03:56] <pigeonor> http://95.211.210.229/
[03:57] <Flannel> m0ka: Well, permission denied is a strange error for that if it's *your* home folder.  Something else is going on.  Second, setting everything to execute (700) is not the way you want to 'fix' it either.
[03:57] <PJSingh5000> Flannel, perhaps m0ka needs sudo chmod ?  But this will probably fix his home folder problem, not the uid 0 problem.
[03:58] <Flannel> PJSingh5000: No, you shouldn't need to use sudo on anything in your home folder.  If you have to, something else is wrong and you're going to have more problems.
[03:59] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, getting the same error "sudo : effective uid is not 0 , is sudo installed setuid root ?"
[03:59] <Flannel> m0ka: What command do you get that error with?
[04:00] <m0ka> sudo chmod -R 700 /home/account
[04:01] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Odd, When I unchecked the box, it still stays that way
[04:02] <Leif> PJSingh5000: And it works fine on another game... :/
[04:03] <Patero-ng> I want to know what good media players that can install h.254 codec for players that play hd videos on debian
[04:03] <m0ka> umm Flannel
[04:03] <m0ka> ?
[04:04] <PJSingh5000> Leif, may be it is an issue with the game itself.  You could also try using the latest xorg driver for your intel chip.  I am assuming that "HD Graphics" listed on this page (www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver)  is the same chip you have.
[04:05] <PJSingh5000> Leif, if it is, you could also try putting Option "AccelMethod" "sna" into /etc/X11/xorg.conf as shown here: www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-enable-intel-sna-acceleration-in.html
[04:06] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Okay, reading about it, thanks.
[04:06] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, is it really your home directory you are working with.  What does it say when you type whoami on the command line?
[04:07] <PJSingh5000> Leif, out of curiosity, which game is behaving like this?
[04:07] <m0ka> tell me my account name
[04:08] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, and the folder you are trying to change permissions on has the EXACT name as your account name, right?
[04:08] <Leif> PJSingh5000: The ones I've tried are: Holotz Castle, mupen64plus, portal 2 (via playonlinux), and I know there wre a few others I tried in the past but just deleted them after they didn't work.
[04:08] <Leif> Thanks
[04:09] <m0ka> yes
[04:09] <m0ka> I dont have anyother account
[04:10] <Leif> PJSingh5000: Oh, I think I figured out why it was doing it for mupen64plus, it seems to keep the previous rendering settings unless they are specifically changed.
[04:11] <PJSingh5000> Leif, ha ha.  I guess that's why tech support always asks, "Is it plugged in?" as the 1st question.  Sometimes it's the simplest thing!
[04:12] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, it seems like you don't even have permissions to change your own account.  This was not happening until your friend did something?
[04:13] <Leif> PJSingh5000: True, well it just solves this application, I appreciate the help you gave me though, thanks.
[04:13] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, no
[04:13] <m0ka> :/
[04:13] <PJSingh5000> what do you get if you type "groups" and press enter?
[04:13] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, what do you get if you type "groups" and press enter?
[04:14] <erncic> m0ka: who is the owner & group of your home dir?
[04:14] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, if you could give me a minit ,I have go out .
[04:14] <m0ka> I'll be back in few minits
[04:16] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, when you get back, erncic has a good point.  See what it says if you type ls -l /home.  Your user name should be listed twice (as owner and group) next to your home directory.
[04:21] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, when I type group I have avaible ground i guess I get a list of group names
[04:22] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, does it have your OWN name listed?
[04:22] <m0ka> in group I dont have my name
[04:22] <m0ka> but I have root in it
[04:22] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, Ahh.
[04:23] <m0ka> also in my home dir permission it has my account name and then root as the group
[04:23] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, your user id is in the root group, but you are not in a group that is named after your own user.
[04:24] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, yes I guess :/
[04:24] <m0ka> what can I do for it
[04:25] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, is your name listed if you type the following: less /etc/group
[04:26] <erncic> m0ka: if you type 'id <username>' is your uid & gid 1000?
[04:26] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, press the "Q" key to quit  when you are done looking through the list of groups.
[04:27] <subcool> Hey, is anyone here a real a -hole? - for real.
[04:27] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, in less /etc/group root:x:0:account_name
[04:27] <PJSingh5000> erncic, also why would a user have "root" group membership on a Ubuntu box?  Shuldn't it just be "sudo" membership per a default installation?
[04:28] <Patero-ng> I want to know what good media players that can install h.254 codec for players that play hd videos on debian
[04:28] <skp1> subcool, besides you?
[04:28] <subcool> yeah---
[04:28] <skp1> no
[04:28] <erncic> PJSingh5000, yeah, I am wondering if /etc/passwd or /etc/group got blitzed
[04:28] <subcool> there is always someone...
[04:28] <skp1> subcool, looking for a mate?
[04:28] <subcool> lol - no.
[04:28] <OerHeks> or for a cinnamon ?
[04:29] <subcool> im writing something, and i need a pro's opinion
[04:29] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, your user id does not appear in the listing on a line by itself?
[04:29] <skp1> dont look at me.
[04:29] <m0ka> uid = 1000 (account_name) gid = 0 (root) group = 0 (root) erncic
[04:29] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, what do you mean user id ?
[04:30] <erncic> PJSingh5000, I had him run an 'id <username>'
[04:30] <PJSingh5000> erncic, that output looks wrong.
[04:31] <erncic> PJSingh5000, it is.....
[04:31] <erncic> PJSingh5000, wrong, that is.
[04:31] <erncic> PJSingh5000, without sudo ... yuck!!!
[04:32] <PJSingh5000> erncic, I was thinking m0ka might be able to add himself to a group with his userId, and to sudo group.  But it looks like the group 1000 does not exist.
[04:32] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, my name was in the less /etc/group
[04:33] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, were you or your friend trying to grant root privileges to your userId?
[04:33] <emes> any idea of hardware compatibility for the IdeaPad S405? can't find anything on google
[04:33] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, i have no idea what he was trying to do
[04:33] <Sazpaimon> so I have a live usb stick of 12.04 with persistent storage. How can I upgrade that stick to 12.10 without losing that storage?
[04:36] <erncic> m0ka: 'sudo su' gives you an effective user id error, right?
[04:36] <OerHeks> Sazpaimon, that would be a problem, 12.10 iso is bigger than 12.04
[04:36] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, my initial thought is that you need to create a defaulr group for your user id.
[04:36] <m0ka> erncic, yes
[04:37] <m0ka> PJSingh5000, how can I do without running as root ?
[04:37] <PJSingh5000> erncic, m0ka could run something like groupadd --gid 1000 `whoami`
[04:37] <Tynach> Hello, world. This isn't my question exactly, but my friend's. His computer has an nVidia graphics card, and he tried installing the newer post-release-upgrades drivers through this utility: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=drivers_dialog.png
[04:38] <Tynach> However, he now cannot get the X server to start, and is texting me how to get it up and running.
[04:38] <erncic> PJSingh5000, I don't know if you can run that outside sudo?
[04:38] <Tynach> We wanted to know how to switch the driver from the command line, in the same way said dialog window would do it.
[04:38] <Sazpaimon> OerHeks, so? it's not a dvd, it's a usb stick
[04:38] <Tynach> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:38] <mns> how do I permanently disable the touchpad in 12.04 ?  I'm running it on a thinkpad
[04:38] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, I am WONDERING if perhaps you actually can become root on that system of yours?  What happens if you type su root   ?
[04:39] <komputes> mns: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-touchpad
[04:39] <OerHeks> Sazpaimon, "without losing that storage" is the problem, back it up and restore it after a fresh 12.10 install
[04:39] <erncic> PJSingh5000, no password as a default in Ubuntu, unless his friend changed that.
[04:39] <Leif> PJSingh5000: lol, it also turns out that changing it to full screen changes the output sound device (from hdmi to my laptop speakers...)
[04:39] <Sazpaimon> OerHeks, I'm not installing ubuntu
[04:40] <Sazpaimon> I'm using a live usb stick with a persistent storage loopback file
[04:40] <m0ka> asking for a password
[04:40] <PJSingh5000> erncic, I know.  I'm wondering if they setup root w/ a password.  Looks like they were trying to do something like that.
[04:40] <m0ka> I havnt set a password for root
[04:40] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, try your password
[04:40] <m0ka> auth fail
[04:40] <PJSingh5000> 	
[04:40] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, ok
[04:40] <erncic> PJSingh5000, yeah...
[04:40] <Tynach> Try sudo su root, not sudo su.
[04:40] <Tynach> Er, not su root.
[04:41] <erncic> m0ka, if you type 'groups', do you see sudo in the list?
[04:41] <PJSingh5000> Tynach,the user m0ka is working with is not a member of sudoers
[04:41] <Tynach> Ah.
[04:41] <OerHeks> Sazpaimon, well yes, you install the live iso to the stick, but it takes more space, so it overwrites your persistent part.
[04:41] <Tynach> Maybe su into a user that is, then sudo su.
[04:41] <m0ka> erncic, no
[04:41] <mns> komputes: I've tried that already.  it only works for a short time.  then itt gets enabled again somehow.
[04:41] <Sazpaimon> OerHeks, well, what happens if I do do-release-upgrade from within the live usb session?
[04:42] <Sazpaimon> will it break everything?
[04:42] <komputes> mns: odd worked for me, let me try rebooting
[04:42] <WeThePeople> this is what happens when i drag and drop from the search menu(tab)>>> http://imgh.us/Screenshot_from_2012-12-21_22:39:16.png
[04:42] <WeThePeople> how do i fix this
[04:43] <m0ka> Tynach, error  "sudo : effective uid is not 0 , is sudo installed setuid root ?"
[04:43] <erncic> PJSingh5000, I don't know what to do here except booting a live cd and repair his groups.
[04:43] <WeThePeople> it does not display the icon image
[04:44] <m0ka> erncic, if I boot with a live cd can u tell me what to do ?
[04:44] <WeThePeople> i think i know why, it is root
[04:45] <Sazpaimon> okay well that didnt work
[04:45] <erncic> m0ka, I am looking for a guide or something... I would not want to fumble my way through it via IRC.
[04:45] <Sazpaimon> so basically what I need to do is backup casper-rw and  re-flash the usb stick with 12.10?
[04:45] <Sazpaimon> will that work?
[04:45] <OerHeks> Sazpaimon, yes
[04:45] <PJSingh5000> erncic, it is still a big job.  He has to create all of the default groups.  I think the sudo group doesn't exist at all on his system.
[04:46] <erncic> PJSingh5000, I know... is a reinstall going to be easier or not...
[04:46] <Sazpaimon> OerHeks, but wouldnt the contents of casper-rw still have precise on it?
[04:47] <Zeus> Anyone active and willing to help?
[04:47] <Sazpaimon> because I'm looking at casper-rw, and I'm seeing a lot of stuff like /var/lib/dpkg/status that would conflict with whatever is on quantal
[04:48] <PJSingh5000> erncic, suppose m0ka dis a mv to his home folder to to some other name, like "backup".  Then he does a reinstall, but makes sure NOT to select format.  After the reinstall, he will have all of his home folder settings, and data.  Then he can copy his files from the backup folder into the new home folder.  I'm sure he can also copy his settings from backup, also.  But there's got to be a simpler, less risky way????
[04:49] <PJSingh5000> erncic, *dis = did
[04:49] <m0ka> :/
[04:49] <erncic> m0ka: see if this makes sense to you... http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[04:49] <Sazpaimon> honestly I dont think what I want is possible
[04:50] <Zeus> What is the name of Unity's dock's feature, which allows the app icons to behave both as launchers and as window buttons
[04:50] <Sazpaimon> i cant run do-release-upgrade because I only have a 2GB persistent FS and it's mostly full
[04:51] <Sazpaimon> so I guess I need to start fresh.. oh well
[04:51] <m0ka> erncic, lets see what happens
[04:51] <m0ka> i'll try
[04:51] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, this could help...  ccollins.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/restore-default-ubuntu-groups/
[04:51] <erncic> m0ka: feel free to ask questions as you go if you need.
[04:52] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, however, you NO LONGER have the default Ubuntu grous, as far as I can tell.
[04:52] <machicola> why is it sometimes when i do 'fdisk -l' i get no output
[04:53] <acu_> what is the most beautiful scifi tech theme for kde ?
[04:53] <erncic> m0ka, it is up to you, a reinstall would fix any other little "fixes" that were thrown in there... might be a better way to go.
[04:53] <acu_> machicola, you need to be sudo or root
[04:55] <machicola> acu_ is that typical that I wouldn''t get an error message? i.e. just returned to user@suchandsuch
[04:55] <machicola> its not giving me a msg for need to be root
[04:55] <acu_> machicola, yes, you would not get any special message - if you have no rights - the command is not available
[04:55] <acu_> you need to add yourself to sudoers
[04:56] <PJSingh5000> m0ka, do have important data on your machine?  Do you happen to have a separate partition you could copy it to?  If not, use the cp -R command to at least copy your current home/<userid> folder to something else.  Be sure to NOT reformat when you reinstall.
[04:56] <machicola> ok, ty
[04:56] <machicola> gonna try again
[04:56] <erncic> PJSingh5000, he needs sudo to do the restore ubuntu groups.
[04:57] <PJSingh5000> erncic, it's a "catch 22"
[04:58] <erncic> PJSingh5000, exactly.... Yuck, like I said before.
[05:01] <RollinV2> remember, cp command is non destructive, mv command is destructive.
[05:03] <Tynach> Well, my friend got his drivers sorted out. Later all.
[05:16] <PJSingh5000> In 12.04 the Light DM "user background" feature can read from /home/<user>/Pictures. But in 12.10, only user backgrounds from /usr/share/backgrounds/ are shown on the Light DM screen. Did Canonical disable this flexibility of the "user background" feature without telling us, or is my system messed up?
[05:17] <arkiver> I have an executable called adb. Now Every time i execute I need to give sudo . I know i need to add the path to adb somewhere so that it doesn't require sudo everytime. Can anyone tell me how to do that ?
[05:19] <PJSingh5000> arkiver, it sounds more like adb requires root privileges to run, rather than needing to specify it's location.
[05:23] <devnill> How can I change my nameserver so it can survive a reboot?
[05:23] <magn3ts_> devnill: your nameserver or your hostname?
[05:24] <devnill> nameserver
[05:25] <magn3ts_> devnill: how are you setting it now that it's not persisitng?
[05:25] <devnill> magn3ts_: Resolv.conf
[05:25] <magn3ts_> devnill: do you use network-manager?
[05:26] <devnill> no?
[05:26] <acolytetojippity> Is it possible to bridge a wireless internet signal and output it via a laptop's ethernet port?  Running 12.10.
[05:26] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: sure.
[05:27] <magn3ts_> they're network ports, doesn't matter which direction you go with it. I use network-manager to do that without issue.
[05:27] <acolytetojippity> magn3ts_, would a windows desktop be able to use the port then?
[05:27] <magn3ts_> devnill: sorry, I can't help, I was thinking "dns server" when you wrote nameserver.
[05:27] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: sure.
[05:27] <devnill> ah, yeah
[05:28] <devnill> I want to make it so I can point it to 8.8.8.8 instead of whatever the router uses
[05:28] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: I've used it with an Xbox. as long as the internet connection sharing bit also runs a dhcp server it should be easy.
[05:28] <acolytetojippity> magn3ts_, sweet.  are there any special stept to take, or is it as easy as bridging a connection on windows?
[05:28] <magn3ts_> devnill: do you use a desktop environment?
[05:28] <magn3ts_> devnill: like gnome?
[05:28] <devnill> I do, I'm running xfce
[05:28] <magn3ts_> devnill: you should be able to set that from xfce's network config gui...
[05:28] <magn3ts_> devnill: you are just setting the dns servers, I recognize 8.8.8.8....
[05:29] <devnill> yeah
[05:29] <acolytetojippity> magn3ts_, wait, as long as what runs a dhcp server?  I'm looking to bridge my house's wifi through to my non-wireless-anabled desktop.
[05:29] <kylescottmcgill> 8.8.8.8 4.4.4.4 are google dns servers
[05:29] <magn3ts_> 4.4.4.4 predates Google.
[05:30] <magn3ts_> 8.8.8.8 is though, along with 8.8.4.4
[05:30] <devnill> there is a section for 'additional dns servers'
[05:30] <devnill> but it still is using the default
[05:30] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: just try it, you could've activated it half a dozen times in the time you've been here :)
[05:30] <magn3ts_> devnill: how do you know?
[05:31] <devnill> OpenDNS filters .onion sites
[05:31] <devnill> and i'm getting an openDNS page whenever i try to resolve
[05:31] <magn3ts_> devnill: depending on what you're doing, you might be better off running tails in a VM.
[05:31] <devnill> tails?
[05:31] <magn3ts_> https://tails.boum.org/
[05:32] <devnill> i'm a little tempted to gut the ubuntu method for resolv.conf
[05:32] <devnill> I don't get what benefit it even has :P
[05:32] <magn3ts_> it's a secure small linux distro that boots into a relatively safe environment for getting on tor. It catches all of the things that most people aren't aware will leak their identity.
[05:32] <erncic> devnill, /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base - add the nameserver in there to persist.
[05:32] <acolytetojippity> lol, i won't have the opportunity until tomorrow when i get home for christmas break.  My room back in my 'rents house doesn't have ethernet.  I'm trying to iron out any issues that I can and understand what to do before i am without internet to ask these questions
[05:32] <devnill> thanks!
[05:32] <magn3ts_> devnill: you /are/ connecting to tor right?
[05:32] <devnill> i am
[05:32] <magn3ts_> Okay :) just checking.
[05:32] <devnill> the torcheck site says so at least :P
[05:33] <magn3ts_> anyway, tails is impossible to screw up. Leaking DNS requests sucks, flash leaking your identity sucks, cookie contamination sucks. Just depends on how careful you need to be. also, I'm veering off topic. good luck.
[05:34] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: you should be good to go. I didn't even google it. Just tried it and it worked exactly as I expected. Edit Connections -> Wired Connection -> edit -> IPv4 settings -> Share to other computers. And you're good to go.
[05:34] <Mechdave> devnill, if you are running a web server on that machine. You will need to lock down apache.I had a case once where someone in China tried to relay email through my php install
[05:35] <acolytetojippity> magn3ts_, sweet.  I was just worried about the windows/linux interplay.  thanks for the help!
[05:35] <devnill> Mechdave: Its OK, i'm not running apache, this is basically a glorified thin client
[05:35] <magn3ts_> acolytetojippity: oh, it's all TCP at that point, no need to sweat.
[05:35] <devnill> Also, iptables
[05:35] <magn3ts_> oh and he's gone. heh.
[05:38] <magn3ts_> I can't get over how slow #ubuntu is. Is it because of the holidays?
[05:38] <MrWibbles> hey
[05:38] <MrWibbles> what graphics card should i get
[05:38] <magn3ts_> (and by slow I mean inactive, not latency slow)
[05:38] <peepsalot> hello, i have  athinkpad w510 and my lcd backlight brightness controls don't work after upgrading to 12.10.  it shows the OSD brightness bar moving but no change in brightness occurs
[05:39] <MrWibbles> graphics / mboard should i get for an ubuntu machine?
[05:39] <magn3ts_> MrWibbles: that depends.
[05:39] <MrWibbles> i only want one so i can have 3 or 4 monitors
[05:39] <MrWibbles> otherwise i'd just use onboard
[05:39] <magn3ts_> MrWibbles: mobo shouldn't be an issue if you go mainstream. what are you looking to do with the graphics card? Game or .... Oh.
[05:39] <MrWibbles> nah no games
[05:39] <magn3ts_> Yeah, that was going to be my advice. I can't advise for more than 2 monitors, sorry.
[05:39] <MrWibbles> maybe run photoshop in a windows vm
[05:40] <magn3ts_> (meaning I can't give you any helpful advice, because I don't know, not saying I'm discouraging you from using 4 monitors :P)
[05:40] <MrWibbles> oh yeah.. maybe i'll just stick with two
[05:40] <peepsalot> anyone know how to get my brightness to work again?   it seems to work during bootup, but noth once x starts
[05:40] <MrWibbles> but it would be nice to have the security camera feeds on the other one
[05:40] <MrWibbles> ones*
[05:41] <magn3ts_> MrWibbles: I would *assume* that if my nvidia card/driver will drive two that it would drive two more on my other outputs, I literally just haven't tried, and currently don't have the working monitors to do so or else I'd give it a shot for you.
[05:42] <peepsalot> hrm, it works if i switch to virtual console temporarily
[05:42] <magn3ts_> Otherwise, I lean nvidia but not for a super great reason. It's worked well in the past.
[05:42] <magn3ts_> peepsalot: are the keys not bound correctly under your DE?
[05:42] <magn3ts_> peepsalot: (I'm just guessing here)
[05:42] <MrWibbles> yeah i always use nvidia usually
[05:42] <peepsalot> magn3ts_, like i said the OSD controls show in gui, but it doesn't really change brightness
[05:43] <magn3ts_> peepsalot: :(
[05:44] <arkiver> I am trying to run flashtool on my ubuntu. " No Java in specified path in JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun " How do i solve this ?
[05:44] <MrWibbles> has anyone tried using TPM with ubuntu?
[05:44] <magn3ts_> MrWibbles: I'd love to! I have an article you might like, let me find it.
[05:45] <magn3ts_> (I can't because I have a Macbook Air)
[05:45] <magn3ts_> The article talks all about locking down a laptop... all the way to keep the OTF FDE key in the CPU rather than in memory. :D
[05:45] <magn3ts_> Preventing cold-boot memory attacks. Very cool stuff.
[05:46] <MrWibbles> yeah.. i've got to come up with a server
[05:46] <MrWibbles> which i can give to other people
[05:46] <MrWibbles> and it has to be next to impossible to reverse-engineer the software
[05:46] <MrWibbles> without just seeing the interface and copying that :)
[05:46] <MrWibbles> haha
[05:47] <magn3ts_> Uh. That's not going to work :/
[05:47] <magn3ts_> If they can boot it, they can read the bits off the disc...
[05:47] <ClientAlive> I want to install modelio on my 12.04 64 bit system. I tried doing it once about 6 mos ago to no avail. I think I'm missing some required libraries or something. Can anyone please help me get this thing successfully installed? Details about the problem and what libraries are needed can be seen here -> http://pastebin.com/KJsHy2J0
[05:47] <MrWibbles> magn3tn: nah, disk encryption
[05:48] <magn3ts_> but then they can just read the decryption key out and then decrypt the disk...
[05:48] <magn3ts_> they'll have the key or else they'lll never be able to boot it?
[05:48] <MrWibbles> nah decryption key is stored on the TPM key
[05:48] <MrWibbles> TPM chip
[05:48] <ClientAlive> can someone please walk me through this cause I really want to start learning about this software and what it does
[05:48] <MrWibbles> and they are built to be impossible to get it off
[05:49] <magn3ts_> MrWibbles: I'd freeze the RAM and then pull the binary out of memory and dasm it.
[05:49] <magn3ts_> Obviously that's ramping up a bit. TPM+FDE would be good.
[05:49] <MrWibbles> what's in memory isin't going to be very useful
[05:49] <MrWibbles> that's not nice code.. easy to edit
[05:50]  * magn3ts_ coughs and it sounds like "open source is cool though :("
[05:50] <magn3ts_> either way, good luck, we're off topic and the new episode of Fringe is up and I'm shaking from excitement to watch it.
[05:51] <MrWibbles> lol
[05:51] <MrWibbles> is it any good?
[05:54] <jrp> Hi, Im having some difficulty setting up kvm and was hoping for some guidance. I have one network card and two ip addresses, Id like the kvm host to get one, and the guest to get another. I cannot seem to find the appropriate incantation to get /etc/network/interfaces to be happy with this
[05:58] <MrWibbles> hey
[05:59] <MrWibbles> can i use http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Q67M_DOTPM/#specifications this motherboard with ubuntu?
[05:59] <ClientAlive> ok, so I'm gooling for what the ubuntu equiv is for "libatk" and I see something that doesn't exaclty match it but has "libatk" in the name. So I do a search in synaptic for libatk and get a butload of stuff with that in it but not exaclty the way the requirement lists it (as merely "libatk"). How do I find out what one I really need?
[06:01] <ironfoot495> I have never been as ftrustrated as I am now. I need help with ubuntu 12.04 it is the worst OS I have ever seen I have audio and video and php problems is there anyone who0 can striaghten this out for me?
[06:02] <Otacon22> Hello, how can I change the default kernel image path?
[06:02] <ironfoot495> .please help!!!!
[06:02] <Otacon22> I don't want to have the kernel in /boot/vmlinuz-linux
[06:02] <Otacon22> but, for example, in /boot/vmlinuz-linux-ubuntu
[06:02] <Otacon22> since I use two distros with the same /boot partition
[06:03] <ironfoot495> I guess maybe I'm stuck.
[06:04] <chirag1> Is there a CD version of Ubuntu install? My old computer only has CD drive
[06:05] <chirag1> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386 is 753MB
[06:05] <Patero-ng> there are alternative versions read about it they weight less
[06:05] <Patero-ng> or use debian
[06:06] <chirag1> Where are the alternate versions located at?
[06:06] <DaemonicApathy> chirag1: 12.04 should still be available, and easily put on a CD.
[06:06] <DaemonicApathy> You can also upgrade to 12.10 from there, if you so choose.
[06:06] <chirag1> ok thanks!
[06:07] <dr_willis> chirag1:  lubuntu 12.10 fits on cd also
[06:07] <dr_willis> chirag1:  is the pc 64bit? or does it support pae?
[06:08] <chirag1> 12.04 would do it :)
[06:08] <chirag1> Its a 32bit machine
[06:09] <Patero-ng> I have a 16bit machine running ubuntu 12
[06:11] <chirag1> I had this Desktop for my dad about 4 years ago and it got super slow. Im excited to fix it up and put it back on his desk :)
[06:11] <chirag1> Thanks guys 12.04 burned good.
[06:13] <magn3ts_> Patero-ng: pfft, I have to make due with 15. I lost the other bit.
[06:14] <jason> anyone knows how to use ssd as cache
[06:19] <Patero-ng> magn3ts_ funny
[06:25] <BrainPaid> hi homies
[06:26] <tomreyn> Guest58160: do you mean swap?
[06:29] <ClientAlive> I think I just did something real stupid - idk. Can someone look at this and tell my my current status after all that? Did I break something? Is there something I need to do?  http://pastebin.com/zXTxajen
[06:29] <ClientAlive> thx
[06:34] <Rengistan> can anyone tell me how to connect Micromax dongle on ubuntu 12.10
[06:34] <Rengistan> ?
[06:34] <Sven_vB> Rengistan, what kind of dongle is that?
[06:35] <Rengistan> its use to connect internet
[06:35] <Rengistan> from gprs connection of simcard
[06:35] <Rengistan> 2g/3g
[06:35] <Rengistan> it need one access point/apn to connect
[06:35] <tomreyn> ClientAlive: those packages weren't actually installed because it was impossible to resolve dependencies.
[06:36] <Sven_vB> so basically it's a USB-connected modem?
[06:36] <ClientAlive> tomreyn: thank you for clarifying. I wasn't sure what it meant.
[06:37] <tomreyn> ClientAlive: welcome. what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:37] <Rengistan> Sven_vB: yes
[06:37] <ClientAlive> install an app called modelio  Details: http://pastebin.com/KJsHy2J0
[06:39] <tomreyn> Rengistan: does it look like this? http://www.newtechnology.co.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Micromax-MMX-352G.jpg
[06:39] <ClientAlive> I think I'm making some headway. Been googling the library names+ubuntu 12.04 and using synaptic (among other things)
[06:39] <Rengistan> tomreyn: exactly
[06:40] <tomreyn> ClientAlive: generally, don'ttouch libc, it's a very good way to shoot your feet
[06:41] <tomreyn> ClientAlive: by "don't touch" i mean you shouldn't try to upgrade or downgrade it to some other version (other than security updates, of course)
[06:42] <lemonsparrow> how to ssh a server over a proxy /
[06:42] <ClientAlive> tomreyn: oh, ok. don't want to break anything, just want modelio. I remember the last time I treid to install it was a real pain - and I never did get it working.
[06:42] <tomreyn> lemonsparrow: what kind of proxy, one you choose or one that is enforced on you?
[06:43] <Sven_vB> Rengistan, you could try general modem tutorials for the hardware part, then the ixconn or MWconn tutorial for the wireless connection part.
[06:43] <Rengistan> Sven_vB: link?
[06:43] <Rengistan> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/SetUpDialer ?
[06:43] <Sven_vB> Rengistan, i don't have one at hand, sorry
[06:45] <lemonsparrow> tomreyn: one which is enforced on me.. my network is over a proxy.. so to ssh I have to also get through the proxy ryt ? so I cant simply do ssh  -p 22 user@host.com
[06:46] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Have a look here --> http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/sshproxy.html
[06:47] <FireAndIce> Hi everyone!!
[06:47] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I am following these steps.. I guess the same thing.. http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php is that ok ?
[06:47] <FireAndIce> How to shorten urls from the terminal?
[06:49] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, So you are tunneling ssh through port 80 to get through a firewall?
[06:50] <lemonsparrow> no 3128
[06:51] <Magoogle> Morning!
[06:51] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, righto same deal. As long as you have corkscrew working properly and you have your ssh server set up correctly it should all be good :)
[06:52] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I installed corckscrew and now I get this error :   /bin/bash: line 0: exec: corkscrew: not found ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[06:52] <tomreyn> FireAndIce: https://startpage.com/do/search?q=url+shortener+api+bash+OR+perl+OR+python
[06:53] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, are you trying to use an authenticated proxy?
[06:53] <Magoogle> anyone running ubuntu on a XIOS DS?
[06:53] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: means ?
[06:53] <ranjan> Hi all, how can i make a archive mirror of a particular ubuntu release?
[06:54] <ranjan> I prefer rsync for the same.
[06:54] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, I mean, when you use the proxy do you have to put in a user/password combination?
[06:54] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes
[06:54] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I guess it should automatically prompt for pwd while sshing ryt ?
[06:55] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Right then you have to set up ssh to auto authenticate through the proxy and then authenticate with yo
[06:55] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, your ssh server
[06:55] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: how to check if corkscrew got installed or not ?
[06:56] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: how to do that ?
[06:56] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: my ssh config looks this now :
[06:56] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, have a look in /usr/local/bin for the binary
[06:56] <lemonsparrow> Host *     ProxyCommand corkscrew usern@host:3128 %h %p
[06:56] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: u mean ls in /usr/local/bin ? I didnt find corkscrew folder in there
[06:57] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Have a read on the same page about Other Tricks with HTTP-Proxies
[06:57] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: $ corkscrew The program 'corkscrew' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install corkscrew
[06:57] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, make sure you can run corkscrew from a terminal
[06:57] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: can I install corckscrew using apt-get ?
[06:57] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes I am running it from terminal only :)
[06:58] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, yes you can apt-get install corkscrew
[06:58] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: i did it and now it shows stuff
[06:58] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: so now leme try sshing again
[06:59] <toxidxd> Привет)
[06:59] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, cool now have a look below the heading Other Tricks with HTTP-Proxies on the setup page youhave been following... That will tell you how to authenticate through a proxy
[06:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi ppl of.ubuntu channel. where i.volunteer in.computer recycling, they promote the use of ubuntu. i have a question relating to.security. i use free avg and i wanted to be able to see my entire directory.tree to run a full system.scan
[06:59] <toxidxd> пффф
[07:00] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey Whats The Best Deb List for ubuntu to have?
[07:00] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I dont get corkscrew error now but this ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[07:00] <Blue1> MonkWitDaFunk: I guess the question is why are you running an a/v scanner on Linux?
[07:01] <MonkWitDaFunk> i cant trust using a system.without security.software
[07:01] <MonkWitDaFunk> blue1 do.you run antivirus and antimalware?
[07:01] <Blue1> MonkWitDaFunk: ahh - I have been running Linux for over 7 years, and have NEVER run an a/v scanner.
[07:02] <tomreyn> !av | MonkWitDaFunk
[07:02] <MonkWitDaFunk> :( i need help.with using.free.avg
[07:02] <Blue1> what tomreyn said.
[07:03] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: dude help :)
[07:03] <magn3ts_> Saying you can't trust a system without security software is a statement that literally makes no sense.
[07:03] <Blue1> MonkWitDaFunk: try a windows channel - sorry
[07:03] <tomreyn> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what's a "deb list"?
[07:03] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Now you possibly have a problem with your ssh server... The proxy asked you for your user/password?
[07:03] <magn3ts_> Just imagine that linux has the antivirus software built in.
[07:03] <tomreyn> !ru > toxidxd
[07:03] <magn3ts_> effectively.
[07:04] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, I have to go to dinner... Will be back in a hour or so
[07:04] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: no
[07:04] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: just 3 minutes please
[07:04] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I wonder if they blocked my static ip after continous failed attempts
[07:06] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, quite possibly... Maybe leave it for a couple of hours :)
[07:07] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: huh... fine but do you really see any issue from our end ?
[07:07] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: no ryt
[07:09] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ?
[07:17] <tomreyn> Magiobiwan: is there soemthing wrong with your internet connection?
[07:21] <mah454> HEllo
[07:21] <mah454> Do you Accept this blog : http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[07:22] <Rajvi> Hi All, NOT able to install 12.10, returning error code -5 (I/O Error ), this happens when files are copied from CD to HDD. Changed installation media same issue! Can I expect some help :(
[07:22] <szx> hi, what is the difference between "fglrx" and "fglrx-updates" in Additional Drivers tab in Software Center?
[07:22] <mah454> Rajvi: check CD/DVD
[07:23] <mah454> Rajvi: check md5sum of iso
[07:23] <Pascal> Hh
[07:23] <Rajvi> mah454: that is the only troubleshooting left. How to do it?
[07:24] <mah454> Rajvi:  use md5sum command
[07:24] <Rajvi> My question might be silly, pardon me :(
[07:25] <Rajvi> can i use any windows tools to do the same?
[07:28] <melkor> Does Xfce use 3d effects?
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> melkor: no xfce doesn't have compositing afaik
[07:31] <tomreyn> it can have
[07:32] <melkor> I'm using gnome, and I saw that my applications will be cluttered if I install xfce.
[07:32] <melkor> I'd like to check it out though.
[07:32] <Pascal> Hi
[07:33] <tomreyn> http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/xfwm4/xfwm4-tweaks-compositor.png
[07:33] <Pascal> I like chocolate
[07:34] <bazhang> Pascal, ubuntu support issue?
[07:34] <tomreyn> !root | root
[07:34] <root> 有人在不？
[07:34] <tomreyn> whoops wrong hint
[07:34] <bazhang> root #ubuntu-cn  here is english only
[07:35] <bazhang> tomreyn, perhaps rootirc was what you were looking for
[07:35] <tomreyn> yes it was, wouldn't help in this case, though ;)
[07:35] <m0ka> I have this error everytime I use sudo "is sudo installed setuid root"
[07:35] <m0ka> can anyone help ?
[07:35] <bazhang> m0ka, what version of ubuntu
[07:36] <m0ka> 12.10 bazhang
[07:36] <melkor> m0ka: what are you trying to do?
[07:36] <bazhang> m0ka, pastebin the exact command and ensuing error please
[07:36] <bazhang> !paste | m0ka
[07:37] <Guest75116> Who's FloodBot ?
[07:37] <m0ka> nothing one of my friend have been using the machine . now I cant run any sudo command Im getting the error "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?"
[07:37] <m0ka> thats the exact error bazhang
[07:37] <bazhang> Guest75116, its a bot
[07:37] <melkor> m0ka: what command are you running?
[07:38] <m0ka> melder, not a specific .. I cant run sudo commands . machine doesnt connect to the internet . the top bar when I click on setting button it doesnt even dropdown
[07:38] <erncic> mOka: what happened?
[07:39] <alimj> tomreyn, bazhang: How did you learn these ubottu commands. Please give me some hints.
[07:39] <bazhang> !brain | alimj
[07:39] <m0ka> erncic, a shitty friend happend
[07:39] <bazhang> m0ka, no cursing here
[07:39] <alimj> Thanks
[07:39] <m0ka> bazhang, sorry I didnt mean it as a curse . sorry everyone
[07:40] <erncic> m0ka:  i know... how did the fixsudo stuff go?
[07:40] <m0ka> so bazhang help ?
[07:40] <m0ka> erncic, didnt work
[07:40] <melkor> m0ka: have you tried restarting? Did you friend have sudo access?
[07:40] <m0ka> melder, yes
[07:40] <melkor> m0ka: to both questions?
[07:40] <erncic> m0ka: so still no sudo?
[07:41] <m0ka> melder, its my laptop . my friend was using it .. he went home and Im with no sudo now
[07:41] <m0ka> erncic, yea still no sudo
[07:41] <m0ka> it was working fine before
[07:41] <hacktard> hi I am on ubuntu 12.10 trying ICS with windows 7. the win 7 laptop keeps showing "identifying" for the adapter
[07:42] <m0ka> even I googled error "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?" dont have much links to go on only 6 pages result
[07:43] <erncic> m0ka: 'groups' now contains 'sudo'?
[07:43] <melkor> m0ka: if he didn't have sudo access it would be very odd that he could change anything. And you'll have trouble modifying anything, such as the groups file, without sudo.
[07:45] <hacktard> hi
[07:45] <hacktard> I am unsure if my messages are going to the room.
[07:45] <bazhang> they are
[07:46] <m0ka> erncic, sudo is not in groups
[07:46] <hacktard> thank you. have you tried Intenet connection sharing with wireless network on ubuntu?
[07:46] <Ja1> heya
[07:47] <ganesha> hi?
[07:47] <erncic> m0ka: the fixsudo website- did you have any problems?
[07:47] <ganesha> no/
[07:47] <alimj> hacktard: How do you want to share? Do you have ADSL, Cable? Do you have access point? or you want to make Ubuntu the access point?
[07:47] <m0ka> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo right ?
[07:47] <ganesha> hathway
[07:48] <m0ka> no I didnt have any issue
[07:48] <m0ka> wait
[07:48] <erncic> m0ka, yes
[07:48] <bazhang> ganesha, ubuntu support question?
[07:48] <alimj> hacktrad: Do you have any router on the network? or you want Ubuntu to be the router?
[07:48] <Ja1> It was everything working untill i replaced the External hdd with new one, im trying to run the script for backing up files to the new external hdd.
[07:48] <hacktard> I have a LAN cable from a local provider into my wired port. it is setup and am connected to this IRC through that.
[07:48] <ganesha> wifi
[07:48] <hacktard> I am trying to share this internet wirelessly
[07:48] <ganesha> ok
[07:48] <hacktard> I set up an ad hoc wireless network
[07:48] <bazhang> ganesha, ask a complete question , all on ONE line
[07:49] <hacktard> with ipv4 "shared to other computers"
[07:49] <ganesha> what
[07:49] <Ja1> it gives me a error ./backup.sh: ERROR: The mounted backup drive was not properly identified with id file "gatekeeper_backup_drive"
[07:49] <bazhang> !ask | ganesha
[07:49] <ganesha> who r u?
[07:49] <bazhang> ganesha, this is Ubuntu support.
[07:49] <bazhang> !ot | ganesha
[07:49] <ganesha> ok
[07:49] <alimj> You have many options: 1. If the cable modem provides DHCP and NAT, you can bridge the wireless and LAN. And make the wireless a WiFi access point.
[07:50] <ganesha> my prob in . who to confr outlook
[07:50] <alimj> hacktrad: What is your current IP on LAN side?
[07:50] <Ja1> bazhang any solution ?
[07:50] <bazhang> ganesha, what does outlook have to do with Ubuntu
[07:50] <ganesha> i do not no ok
[07:50] <Captain_Crow> hello
[07:50] <ganesha> hi
[07:51] <bazhang> Ja1, what script are you running, from where
[07:51] <ganesha> mumbai
[07:51] <hacktard> 106.51.89.201 < this shows up on "ifconfig" it is also my public ip atm
[07:51] <bazhang> ganesha, ##windows for outlook questions (maybe) but NOT here
[07:51] <ganesha> ok
[07:51] <Captain_Crow> does ubuntu play dvds by default or does a program need to be installed?
[07:51] <alimj> hacktard: Then you can not use the 1st option I mentioned. You should use NAT (Network Address Translation).
[07:51] <Ja1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762545 its here...
[07:52] <bazhang> !dvd | Captain_Crow
[07:52] <mnathani> !mp3 | ubottu
[07:52] <alimj> hacktrad: Let me see if I can find a detailed guide. It will take sometime....
[07:53] <bazhang> Ja1, please explain very clearly to the channel what exactly you are trying to do. Please do NOT paste that script in this channel
[07:53] <hacktard> alimj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing is what I have already followed
[07:53] <hacktard> more details would help for sure :)
[07:53] <alimj> hackrad: Next time censor the last number of your IP.
[07:54] <Ja1> bazhang i have already asked the whole question...It was everything working untill i replaced the External hdd with new one, im trying to run the script for backing up files to the new external hdd. it gives me a error ./backup.sh: ERROR: The mounted backup drive was not properly identified with id file "gatekeeper_backup_drive"
[07:54] <F-3000> Hi! Is there a way to alter keyboard layout from grub when booting Ubuntu? (not grub's layout, but Ubu's)
[07:54] <hacktard> alimj: will do. thanks!
[07:55] <bazhang> Ja1, I have never seen the whole question asked, just you pasting that script in the channel
[07:55] <F-3000> I tried to google for answer, but everything seemed to be about grub's keyboard layout (and how it can't be changed).
[07:55] <ganesha> who r u
[07:56] <bazhang> ganesha, #ubuntu-offtopic   NOT here
[07:56] <ganesha> what is ubuntu..
[07:56] <bazhang> ganesha, really?
[07:57] <F-3000> ganesha: http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <alimj> Hacktard: This is also a good guide: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/
[07:57] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com    <-------- ganesha
[07:57] <ganesha> what is ubuntu os
[07:57] <Ja1> bazhang ?
[07:58] <hacktard> alimj: sorry I got disconnected for a while there. I think I understand the problem a bit. Ubuntu is sharing the internet connection directly with the wireless network
[07:59] <bouncing> hey all, I'm looking for an app that does something fairly specific, but is quite common among web developers.
[07:59] <alimj> hackrand: If you set the NAT mode correctly, the answer is yes
[07:59] <hacktard> alimj: my local provider gives me an ip directly and it can not be shared with 2 computers. I need to make a router out of my ubuntu install
[07:59] <ganesha> no thanks?
[07:59] <bouncing> Basically, I want to watch /foo, and if any file in /foo or its subdirs is changed, I want it rsynced to an ssh location
[07:59] <alimj> hacktrad: That is exactly, what NAT does.
[07:59] <bouncing> any recommendations?
[07:59] <m0ka> erncic, I dont undertand what happend :/
[07:59] <hacktard> alimj: any guides?
[08:00] <alimj> hacktard: NAT shares one valid IP with many computers.
[08:00] <alimj> hacktard: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/
[08:00] <tomreyn> bouncing: look into inotify
[08:00] <alimj> Hacktard: Once you set the NAT mode, connect all computers using ad-hoc. Do not set IPs on other computers. Use DHCP on them.
[08:01] <erncic> mOka, me either. at the very least your user should be a member of the sudo group....
[08:01] <bouncing> tomreyn, I was sort of hoping for an app that makes use of inotify to accomplish this, not writing a c app myself
[08:01] <Cygfrydd> bouncing: Take a look at https://github.com/rvoicilas/inotify-tools/wiki#wiki-info ; there's some sample code there that does what it looks like you want.
[08:01] <hacktard> alimj: thank you let me try and see if it fixes the problem. will ping back in a minute :)
[08:01] <bouncing> Cygfrydd, that looks incredibly promising. Thanks!
[08:01] <Cygfrydd> bouncing: Check the "inotifywait example 1" bit.
[08:02] <Ja1> bazhang here ?
[08:03] <bouncing> Cygfrydd: yup, that's exactly what I need. thanks.
[08:03] <tomreyn> bouncing: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/amd64/inotify-tools/filelist
[08:03] <Cygfrydd> bouncing: Y'r wlecome!
[08:03] <bazhang> Ja1, please give exact details of what you are trying to accomplish to the channel; if someone knows, they will perhaps answer
[08:03] <Cygfrydd> *welcome
[08:03] <m0ka> I have only one partision in the computer erncic . I cant use sudo aswell . USBs dosesnt work . how can I save my data
[08:04] <njkt> hey guys, i'm getting an index out of bounds error with ubuntu 12.04, are there any other automated chroot utilities actively maintained that i could try?
[08:04] <Patero-ng> is there a version of ubuntu for a 1.44m disket?
[08:04] <Ja1> it was everything working untill i replaced the External hdd with new one, im trying to run the script for backing up files to the new external hdd. it gives me a error ./backup.sh: ERROR:   The mounted backup drive was not properly identified with id file "gatekeeper_backup_drive"  / the script im trying to run is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762545 its here...
[08:05] <bazhang> Patero-ng, not that small. there is a 12mb or so mini iso however
[08:05] <njkt> oops, index out of bounds error with makejail in ubuntu 12.04
[08:05] <bazhang> !mini | Patero-ng
[08:05] <erncic> m0ka: ssh access on another system? ftp? etc..?
[08:05] <Patero-ng> great
[08:05] <hacktard> alimj: I have to keep my wired LAN on DCHP so I can not add address mask etc. My local provider gives me the ip dynamically
[08:05] <m0ka> erncic, internet doesnt get connect
[08:06] <hacktard> DHCP*
[08:06] <alimj> hacktard: Then ignore it. It will work
[08:06] <erncic> locally accessable ssh or ftd, can you reach anything on your own network?
[08:07] <alimj> hackrard: just modify eth1 (or wifi0) or wathever it is.
[08:07] <tomreyn> bouncing: i did something similar using incron a while ago, maybe that's an alternative you'd like to look into, too. the concept is a bit weird initially but i found it to be quite user friendly then.
[08:07] <hacktard> alimj: should I leave /etc/network/interfaces file as is or add "auto eth0" and "auto wlan0" ?
[08:08] <alimj> hacktard: I will be back in a minute
[08:08] <hacktard> alimj: ok
[08:13] <Captain_Crow> will ubuntu ever be user friendly at running things like bluray3d and modern pc games? or will that always require downloading additional programs and/or entering consol codes just to get the program running in buggy flickering manner?
[08:13] <bazhang> Captain_Crow, is that rhetorical?
[08:14] <aeon-ltd> Captain_Crow: blu-ray? unlikely - streaming will overtake bd. pc games? steam looks promising
[08:14] <bazhang> Captain_Crow, did you have an actual support issue you'd like to address, or just want to chit chat
[08:14] <bazhang> Captain_Crow, if the latter then #ubuntu-offtopic  or #ubuntu-discuss
[08:15] <Captain_Crow> i tried ubuntu once and had a bad experience with every game i own and couldnt run dvds or anything, i'm just wondering if it will ever be made easier to use where i can just pop a disk in and run it, or will this never happen?
[08:16] <Patero-ng> Captain_Crow ubuntu is not for games the hardware like gpu is meant for windows
[08:17] <Patero-ng> that it can run fairly well on linux is a plus
[08:17] <bazhang> Patero-ng, Captain_Crow this is not the correct forum for such a discussion
[08:17] <bazhang> Please take it to such a one as has been suggested, thanks.
[08:18] <Captain_Crow> ok, bazhang
[08:19] <Captain_Crow> Patero-ng, thanks for the information
[08:20] <adknight87_bugsB> Anyone ever mess around with wine and ubuntu arm?
[08:20] <alimj> hacktard: Are you still there?
[08:20] <bazhang> adknight87_bugsB, try #ubuntu-arm
[08:20] <IdleOne> adknight87_bugsB: there is a #ubuntu-arm probably more people there who may have
[08:21] <hacktard> alimj: yes I just tried the whole thing
[08:21] <adknight87_bugsB> Well it's a good thing I asked
[08:21] <adknight87_bugsB> Thanks
[08:21] <ChesterX> hello everybody, i am trying to update my systems. however, i am encountering a issue with the steam client, the update manager says it can't install from an unauthenticated source. do you know where i could get the authentication key for the steam client? or a work-around?
[08:21] <hacktard> alimj: and sadly it did not work. May be coz I needed to add something about eth0 to the /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:22] <hacktard> may be I should just restart and check once. brb 1 min
[08:22] <IdleOne> ChesterX: wget -q http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/signature.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:22] <IdleOne> ChesterX: We have a #ubuntu-steam
[08:23] <alimj1> Hacktard and: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[08:23] <alimj1> Hacktard; The rest should be the same
[08:23] <bazhang> alimj1, he's rebooting
[08:24] <alimj1> bazhang: I was disconnected. Very bad internet connection
[08:24] <ChesterX> thanks IdleOne, i didn t know about it :-)
[08:24] <IdleOne> ChesterX: I just learned a couple days ago myself :)
[08:26] <alimj1> hacktard: Welcome back. I was disconnected. Bad internet
[08:27] <alimj1> hacktard. What is the current status?
[08:27] <hacktard> alimj1: hi! I restarted and now it says "device not managed" on GUI for my wireless connections
[08:28] <alimj1> I believe the first part should be OK. Now it is the 2nd part. You should try connecting wireless devices now.
[08:29] <alimj1> Before that. Please inform me the ip of eth0 and yourwireless. Please censor last part of your valid IP
[08:29] <hacktard> alimj1:  I can not see the wireless network on other devices now.
[08:29] <hacktard> alimj1: eth0 is 106.51.89.xxx
[08:30] <hacktard> alimj1: wlan0 is 192.168.1.1 (which I gave for configuration)
[08:30] <alimj1> and eth0? The 1st 3 numbers...
[08:30] <hacktard> alimj1: eth0 is 106.51.89.xxx
[08:31] <hacktard> that is my public ip
[08:31] <alimj1> OK
[08:31] <alimj1> Let me send you a guide...
[08:31] <hacktard> alimj1: I can not add that to the interfaces file coz it is given dynamically
[08:31] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: hi u back ? :)
[08:32] <alimj1> hacktard: It is OK
[08:32] <alimj1> Hacktard: It appears that NAT part is done
[08:32] <alimj1> Hacktard: Now you should make Wifi addapter an access point
[08:32] <hacktard> alimj1: ok now i need to set up the wireless connection
[08:32] <hacktard> yes
[08:33] <alimj1> hacktard: If both addapters were ethernet, it was finished by now.
[08:33] <lemonsparrow> $ ssh -vvv user@host.com OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009 debug1: Reading configuration data /home/app/.ssh/config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Executing proxy command: exec corkscrew app@proxy.com:3128 host 22 debug1: permanently_drop_suid: 1004 debug1: identity file /home/app/
[08:33] <alimj1> Hacktard: Open this link. But you already did most. Let me tell you from were to follow: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-setting-wireless-access-point/
[08:34] <lemonsparrow> I get this o/ for -vvv when I try sshing to the server over proxy
[08:34] <alimj1> Hacktard: Step 1, 2, 3
[08:35] <alimj1> Hacktard: I know it is not very easy. But once you do this. It will save you $100 and you will not require to by an access point+ router.
[08:35] <hacktard> alimj1: I think I could have skipped feeding interfaces file and added the ip etc to the GUI. that way I would have the option to setup wifi from GUI itself am I right?
[08:36] <hacktard> or not may be
[08:36] <magn3ts_> *what is the deal with gstreamer's fundamental freaking problem with m4a and flac files.
[08:36] <alimj1> hacktard: Forget GUI. We can not debug it.
[08:36] <magn3ts_> I can crash every gstreamer app I know of with any number of my albums.
[08:36] <hacktard> alimj1: haha ok :)
[08:37] <alimj1> hacktard: So please follow the last link I sent you. Do step 1, 2, 3
[08:38] <hacktard> alimj1: yes am on step 1 right now. will complete and test and ping back
[08:39] <hacktard> alimj1: ok what is my driver name?
[08:39] <Patero-ng> hacktard welcome hi hey dude
[08:39] <Patero-ng> do you use tor to cover your tracks
[08:40] <mariomerola> buonasera
[08:40] <mariomerola> !list
[08:40] <mariomerola> buon giorno a tutti
[08:40] <alimj1> hacktard: Use iwconfig to learn
[08:41] <hacktard> hi Patero-ng. nope not yet. might use it in future. our govt has pretty bad internet rules too (btw hacktard is not supposed to mean I am affiliated to any "hacking" organization as put by mass media)
[08:42] <hacktard> it is short for hacking retard. i.e. a noob-ish hacker. for definitions I follow http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hacker.html
[08:42] <alimj1> hacktard: Sorry. I though you want the adapter name. Let me tell you.
[08:43] <pLk> moin
[08:43] <hacktard> alimj1: btw my usb wireless adapter came with it's drivers but ubuntu seemed to recognize the device as soon as I plugged it in so I am guesssing it is the default driver for 12.10
[08:46] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:46] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, do you have to put a password in to get on the internet when accessing it through the proxy?
[08:46] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[08:46] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yeas
[08:46] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[08:46] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:47] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: dude I just found this link http://serverfault.com/questions/119881/ssh-exchange-identification-connection-closed-by-remote-host you see the first anwer s I did a chmod 600 on my ssh folder and then when I tried doing a -vvv ssh to the server
[08:47] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I get this
[08:47] <hacktard> alimj1: I dont think I would need to bridge the connections am I right?
[08:47] <alimj1> hacktard:  lshw -C network
[08:47] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, You will need to set up ssh and corkscrew to tell the proxy your username and password for the proxy access
[08:48] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ssh -vvv user@host.com OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to ti002.tataquality.com [115.112.177.67] port 22. debug1: connect to address 115.112.177.67 port 22: Connection timed out ssh: connect to host host.com port 22: Connection timed out
[08:48] <alimj1> hacktard: No
[08:48] <alimj1> hacktard: Also chose your own SSID and Password
[08:49] <hacktard> alimj1: ok so I will just set up my wifi network and see if it shows up on my windows laptop. if it does then it should be working already now
[08:49] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: Host *     ProxyCommand corkscrew user@proxy.com:3128 %h %p
[08:49] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ^^^
[08:49] <alimj1> hacktard: Forget step 3
[08:50] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, you are using the actual proxy address instead of user@proxy.com?
[08:50] <hacktard> alimj1: ok
[08:50] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes :)
[08:50] <alimj1> hacktard: Just step 1 and 2. You should be able to see the access point from other computers. Connect to it from some other computer...
[08:51] <hacktard> alimj1: channel=6 (does it differ from driver to driver? it says 0 for some drivers)
[08:52] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, good :)
[08:52] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Ok so now you are getting a connection to the ssh server. Just that the connection is now timing out because you haven't put in a username and password in to access the ssh server
[08:52] <alimj1> hacktard: There are 13 channels.
[08:52] <hacktard> alimj1: so how do I know which one I have to use. or can I use anyone I like
[08:52] <alimj1> hacktard: It is not really important. Unless there are many wireless accesspoints nearby
[08:52] <hacktard> alimj1: well there are 2-3
[08:52] <alimj1> hacktard: Yes
[08:53] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: so what am I missing
[08:53] <alimj1> hacktard: Generally you should use one which is free. But let us forget about it for now. Lets focus on the 1st part.
[08:54] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: so I need to add usernma to ssh/config ?
[08:54] <alimj1> hacktard: If you use the same frequency. You will kill some bandwidth. But nothing else happens.
[08:54] <hacktard> alimj1: Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd                      [fail]
[08:54] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, possibly nothing... I am trying to connect to the same server, but there is no response from the server. Are you sure the ssh port for the ssh server is 22?
[08:54] <hacktard> alimj1: may be some configuration error (where are the logs?)
[08:55] <alimj1> hacktard: Yes. erros in "/etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf"
[08:55] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: dude I changed the server details while pinging you the details ;)
[08:55] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, There is a problem with the ssh server... The connection timed out for me too.
[08:56] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Usually if you don't add username to the ssh command then the server will ask you for a username/pasword combination
[08:56] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ok got it leme try
[08:57] <alimj1> hacktard: Please pastbin /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf, /etc/hostapd/hostapd, /etc/network/interfaces
[08:57] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, unless the ssh server has been configured not to ask for a username/password combination
[08:57] <alimj1> hacktard: We have to check them.
[08:58] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: tell me the command to add username into ssh host
[08:58] <alimj1> hacktard: Please centsor passphrase
[08:58] <user82> Hi. in gnome energy monitor what causes "local interrupts"? my cpu wakes up a lot (like 700 times because of local intererupts)
[08:58] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Can you pastebin any lines that take more than 1 line? It tends to upset people here when several lines are pasted :)
[08:59] <Kaleidoscope> Does Ubuntu use PulseAudio as it's sound server?
[08:59] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I am now trying ssh user@host.com
[08:59] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, all you do is user@ssh-server in the ssh command
[08:59] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, that is it
[08:59] <hacktard> alimj1: http://pastebin.com/CyPhtzDi for hostapd
[08:59] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: anything to add into ssh/config ?
[09:00] <lemonsparrow> ssh: connect to host host.com port 22: Connection timed out
[09:00] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ^
[09:00] <vmouse> hi everyone
[09:00] <irqq> what am I missing to sudo-run a loop like this ?: sudo for i in {a..c}; do echo $i; done
[09:00] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, are you sure that ssh is running on port 22 on the server?
[09:01] <hacktard> alimj1: there is no file called /etc/hostapd/hostapd I think you are looking for /etc/default/hostapd ?
[09:01] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes and I know by default its port 22 unless otherwise
[09:02] <alimj1> hacktard: You did wrong config.
[09:02] <Kaleidoscope> Does Ubuntu use PulseAudio as it's sound server?
[09:02] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, A lot of the time a server will not run ssh on port 22 due to security. I always ran my ssh on a very high port, just a bit of obfuscation to throw the bots off the scent :)
[09:02] <alimj1> hacktard. You should have two files. /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf, /etc/hostapd/hostapd,
[09:02] <hacktard> alimj1: http://pastebin.com/k1zBh4vU is the interfaces file
[09:03] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Perhaps you should confirm the ssh server is running ssh on port 22
[09:03] <alimj1> hacktard. Let me paste bin for you.
[09:03] <hacktard> alimj1: Edit /etc/default/hostapd, enter:
[09:03] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: ok.. but nothing was told to me that THIS PORT so I believe its deafult port :) and it did work connecting my personal broadband static ip.. but through proxy I am facing this issue
[09:03] <hacktard> # vi /etc/default/hostapd
[09:04] <alimj1> hacktard: first file (/etc/default/hostapd) should have only one line: DAEMON_CONF="/etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf"
[09:04] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: do I need to do a sudo ssh ?
[09:04] <hacktard> alimj1: that file was present from before and had a lot of lines in it should I pastebin it?
[09:05] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Ok, now next question is did you try tunneling to the ssh server without the proxy server being in the middle?
[09:05] <alimj1> hacktard: The 2nd file (/etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf) should have, what you pastebined for me
[09:05] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Never sudo ssh!
[09:05] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes from home and it did connect :)
[09:05] <hacktard> alimj1: ok np coz all other lines seemed to have been commented. so yes it is the same
[09:06] <mvt007geek> do anybody know linux filesystem channel??
[09:06] <mvt007geek> in irc?
[09:06] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Ok, do you think the server has a list of ip adresses it will only accept and yours might happen to be on it?
[09:06] <auronandace> mvt007geek: ##linux might help
[09:06] <hacktard> alimj1: http://pastebin.com/VALYu2qq is the default/hostapd file
[09:07] <bazhang> !fhs | mvt007geek
[09:07] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, The reason I say this is because you are reaching the ssh server, it is just not letting you connect to it
[09:07] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes set of static ips.. and my porxy n/w has been added to it but I am scared if the ip got blocked due to many failed attempts
[09:07] <alimj1> hacktard : /etc/init.d/hostapd restart
[09:08] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, I took the address from one of your previous posts and tried to ssh to the server, it did exactly the same to me as it is currently doing to you. So that is why I think it will only accept certain addresses
[09:09] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, Maybe you need to speak to the techs about it at the server
[09:09] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: dude I never gave you proper address for security reasons I edited it before posting
[09:09] <mvt007geek> auronandace: thanks
[09:09] <hacktard> alimj1: stopped ok start fail
[09:09] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: my strong feeling is that the ip got blocked
[09:09] <hacktard> alimj1: where can I find the logs for hostapd failing?
[09:10] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, I think you might be right... Maybe talk to the techs at the server and see if you can confirm the case.
[09:10] <unixnotphoenix> guys... anyone using steam here
[09:10] <unixnotphoenix> ?
[09:10] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: when the ip from which u r sshing is blocked is this the message you normally get ? ssh: connect to host 115.112.177.67 port 22: Connection timed out ?
[09:10] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: yes
[09:10] <alimj1> hacktard: I will tell you in a sec
[09:11] <hacktard> alimj1: ok
[09:11] <Mechdave> lemonsparrow, yes
[09:11] <hacktard> alimj1: brb need a restart
[09:11] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: thanks a lot boss ;) for your time and help :)
[09:12] <lemonsparrow> Mechdave: I will get in touch with the tech team :)
[09:12] <unixnotphoenix> guys... I messed up the big picture resolution in steam... i cant make it to start to change the resolution..
[09:12] <alimj1> OK
[09:14] <dkessel> unixnotphoenix: there is a channel #ubuntu-steam . people might be able to help you there
[09:14] <unixnotphoenix> dkessel: thanks :)
[09:16] <elena-IK> I get flooded with "[ 1560.775986] hub 1-1.4.1.4:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1" several times per second, when printer, scanner and their usb hub are plugged in but not powered on. this is annoying at the luks/cryptsetup password prompt. can I suppress that message somehow?
[09:16] <XATRIX> Hi guys,  how can i make my grub not to use quiet+splash mode ? I need all kernel messages with 2 yellow pinguins appear on my screen during startup... :)
[09:17] <ironhalik> How can I use gnome-terminal --execute without a terminal window opening?
[09:17] <XATRIX> ironhalik, Why do you need it ? Can't use exec command from a plain shell ?
[09:17] <ironhalik> I want to place two commands, xset dpms force off and gnome-screensaver-command -a into a keyboard shortcut
[09:18] <XATRIX> ironhalik, KDE ?
[09:19] <ironhalik> gnome
[09:19] <XATRIX> Hm...No idea, i'm using awesome
[09:20] <IdleOne> ironhalik: I think what you want is nohup, see: man nohup
[09:20] <ironhalik> sec, Ill try it out
[09:21] <XATRIX> IdleOne, He wants just to bind a command sequence on the shortcut, there was a GUI app to configure the shortcuts in gnome, but i currently don't remember which one
[09:22] <IdleOne> XATRIX: neither do I
[09:24] <XATRIX> Hi guys,  how can i make my grub not to use quiet+splash mode ? I need all kernel messages with 2 yellow pinguins appear on my screen during startup... :)
[09:24] <hacktard> alimj1: hi I am back
[09:24] <alimj1> hacktard: What news?
[09:25] <hacktard> alimj1: still the same status :( hostapd start fail
[09:25] <alimj1> hacktard: Do you see your wifi in wireless manager?
[09:26] <hacktard> in GUI no but if I remove the config from network/interfaces and restart, I see it in GUI and can make a normal wireless connection
[09:27] <alimj1> hacktard: Then I believe it might not work in Access Point mode. Some cheap USB Wifis may not work in Access Point mode
[09:27] <hacktard> alimj1: :( any work around?
[09:28] <alimj1> hacktard: What happens if you set in in Ad-hoc mode and connect some other computer to it? Can they connect to the internet through it? They should. We did the 1st part already.
[09:28] <hacktard> alimj1: umm let me try again and restart
[09:29] <alimj1> hacktard: However, on those computers, you will not require manual IP
[09:29] <hacktard> alimj1: I am not adding manual ip on those computers
[09:29] <hacktard> alimj1: the only setting in which ubuntu lets me make an ad-hoc connection is when ipv4 is "shared with other computers"
[09:31] <alimj1> hacktard: Ok then. Check and inform. Do those computers have internet connectivity now?
[09:32] <hacktard> alimj1: which wont work with my connection as my local isp wont provide ip for multiple machines
[09:32] <hacktard> sad part is I can do this on windows very easily
[09:32] <hacktard> but I need to use the ubuntu machine for everything else
[09:32] <alimj1> hacktard: Yes. However, not everything.
[09:34] <Mechdave> hacktard, have a look here --> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html
[09:35] <hacktard> Mechdave: let me try that :D
[09:45] <hacktard> Mechdave , alimj1 I can connect to the computer that way but can not share internet conenction
[09:46] <Benxyzzy> My laptop screen started turning off and on again about a month ago. It's pretty random but tends to happen when I open new programs. The screen usually locks too, until I disabled it. Now I don't have to type my password in every time, but I have no protection if I leave it unattended, and the 1/2 second black screen is still annoying. I've tried googling but don't really know what I should search for
[09:47] <Mechdave> hacktard, are you sharing through a windows machine or a ubuntu machine?
[09:48] <alimj1> hacktard: I am looking to the files
[09:48] <hacktard> Mechdave: I have the wired internet connection to my ubuntu desktop. I am trying to share it over wifi to my windows laptop
[09:48] <hacktard> Mechdave: alimj1 helped me set up a dhcp server and also hostapd but hostapd is failing when I restart it
[09:49] <alimj1> hacktard: Pastebin: /etc/sysctl.conf
[09:49] <Mechdave> hacktard, Ok, you need to use iptables to forward the connection to the windows laptop. You don't need a dhcp server on your ubuntu box as you can initially use a static ip on the laptop
[09:49] <hacktard> Mechdave: guides?
[09:50] <alimj1> hacktard: and this: /etc/rc.local
[09:50] <Mechdave> hacktard, hang on a bit and I will try to remember... Has been a while since I have needed to do this :)
[09:50] <alimj1> Mechdave: I gave hacktard this link: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/ubuntu-12-04-ipv4-nat-gateway-and-dhcp-server/
[09:51] <hacktard> Mechdave: thank you! alimj1 http://pastebin.com/Jsh1qBq6 for sysctl.conf and http://pastebin.com/e4AGz56k for rc.local
[09:52] <Mechdave> hacktard, Have a read of this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[09:52] <hacktard> Mechdave and alimj1 I think you should know, my local isp needs me to open the browser and log into their portal before I can use internet on their connection
[09:53] <Mechdave> hacktard, That should be fine with the nat setup :) Just make the ISP page your home page
[09:53] <hacktard> Mechdave: I tried that first. it didnt work because I think it shares the connection directly and my ISP wont let me access internet directly that way.
[09:53]  * RogueNeuron hi
[09:54] <hacktard> Mechdave: oh I think I need to do the gateway method, I had tried the GUI ones
[09:54] <SpaceRocket> how to safely remove USB hard disk?
[09:54] <pirsch> Hi All. I have not been able to successfully install Ubuntu or any Ubuntu based distro since before 12.04. I've tried installing with nomodeset. I can get it installed but the mouse and keyboard freeze-up on first run.
[09:54] <Mongolski> hej
[09:55] <Mechdave> hacktard, No, the iptables method translates the incoming packets to an internal ip address... As far as the ISP is concerned the ubuntu box is surfing the web :)
[09:55] <alimj1> hacktard: Now pastebin /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[09:56] <Mechdave> hacktard, Use the iptables method, but do it all inside a terminal to set up the rules
[09:56] <hacktard> Mechdave: ok am trying that now
[09:56] <hacktard> sec
[09:57] <hacktard> alimj1: http://pastebin.com/1fnGNU5H
[09:57] <Mechdave> alimj1, I think get hacktard to forget about dhcp for now, just get him to get it all going with a static ip first, then he can add a dhcp server later
[09:58] <hacktard> alimj1: http://pastebin.com/0XMUNpcA PS: I have removed the wlan config from interfaces now to get it going from GUI
[09:58] <hacktard> Mechdave: yes I think that is what I am going to try for now.
[09:58] <Mechdave> alimj1, I always had major issues with dhcp and iptables if I set up dhcp first
[09:59] <alimj1> Mechdave: Possibly.
[09:59] <Mechdave> hacktard, just follow the instructions carefully, turn off your dhcp server by typing in a terminal sudo service dhcpd stop
[10:00] <queerios> hacktard: could you change your nick? it contains an ableist slur
[10:00] <Mechdave> hacktard, get the nat working first then you can add dhcp afterwards
[10:00] <hacktard> sudo service dhcpd stop
[10:00] <hacktard> dhcpd: unrecognized service
[10:00] <hacktard> Mechdave: ^
[10:01] <Mechdave> hacktard, would be good if you could change your nick too please :)
[10:01] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, thanks mate :)
[10:01] <alimj1> Hacktard: You did not follow the steps: It was mentioned: sudo aptitude install isc-dhcp-server
[10:01] <queerios> piyushmishra: thank you for being considerate
[10:01] <piyushmishra> alimj1: I did do that
[10:02] <alimj1> Mechdave: Would you please look into this. I am going to launch. I will be back.
[10:02] <Mechdave> alimj1, No worries :)
[10:02] <piyushmishra> queerios, Mechdave is the word "hack" causing the cringe? :P
[10:03] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, yes... and the word tard too
[10:04] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: ok. :) wont use the nick here then. btw it is supposed to mean I am very slow in learning hacking (in the catb sense of the term)
[10:04] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, It is just not really respectful and chances you would not be treated seriously here with that name. Besides some would withhold help because of percieved motives
[10:05] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, No worries. I knew what you were on about when you explained it earlier :)
[10:05] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: I can see how it can create confusion
[10:05] <piyushmishra> ok trying the gateway method now
[10:06] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, Ok back to job in hand... Try the iptables method. Make sure you can ping the ubuntu box with the windows laptop first so you know you have a good wireless connection
[10:07] <jojo_> msg
[10:08] <elena-IK> how can I prevent the luks password prompt from being flooded with kernel messages?
[10:10] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: iptables-restore v1.4.12: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'nat'
[10:12] <Mechdave> You followed the instructions here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[10:12] <defekt> !botsnack
[10:13] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, You followed the instructions here --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[10:14] <piyushmishra> yes, instead of adding the line to rc.local I mistakenly run it on the terminal
[10:14] <piyushmishra> and got that error
[10:14] <piyushmishra> so may be I will get that error again when I restart. do you know why it can happen
[10:15] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, you ran sudo iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.sav in a terminal?
[10:15] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: yes I did I have that file now
[10:15] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: should I pastebin it?
[10:16] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, no need to just yet...
[10:17] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: Error occurred at line: 2
[10:17] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, so when you run this in a terminal--> iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.sav  what does it say?
[10:17] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: $ iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.sav
[10:17] <piyushmishra> iptables-restore v1.4.12: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'nat'
[10:17] <piyushmishra> Error occurred at line: 2
[10:17] <piyushmishra> Try `iptables-restore -h' or 'iptables-restore --help' for more information.
[10:18] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, can you pastebin the file please?
[10:18] <piyushmishra> http://pastebin.com/zCxVGBf8
[10:19] <XATRIX> What software monitors special buttons on the laptop ? Mute/Volup/Voldown
[10:20] <bekks> XATRIX: That strongly depends on your hardware.
[10:20] <XATRIX> bekks: I'm using an old HP compaq nc4010
[10:20] <VividReality> Hello, I had a crash and since then audio doesn't work anymore, muting and unmuting gives me an instant of static, but nothing more.
[10:20] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: http://pastebin.com/zCxVGBf8
[10:21] <XATRIX> And i really didn't setup something extra in...
[10:21] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, run the following command in a terminal and then pastebin the resulting file... sudo iptables -L > $HOME/iptables.out.txt
[10:21] <VividReality> if I plug the speakers in my phone they work fine.
[10:21] <XATRIX> But my Sound keys were in action, till i move to awesome DM :)
[10:21] <VividReality> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[10:22] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: http://pastebin.com/gRJ41uU1
[10:22] <XATRIX> VividReality: You could possible play with alsamixer
[10:22] <XATRIX> Maybe you have some channels muted out...
[10:23] <VividReality> system sounds and Clementine are both on 100%
[10:24] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: btw ping doesnt work properly I think I need to restart or something before ping works
[10:24] <piyushmishra> trying once and getting back in a minute
[10:24] <VividReality> XATRIX, also, the volume bar of Clementine moves based on the audio.
[10:25] <VividReality> so there should be output
[10:25] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, make sure you can connect to your ubuntu box with windows. Set up a static ip address for the windows box.
[10:25] <XATRIX> VividReality: So, you only have a working system sounds, but no other media  ?
[10:26] <VividReality> no system sounds either.
[10:28] <XATRIX> VividReality: Do you see the MM chars down to the channel bars ?
[10:28] <XATRIX> If you do so, there's a muted channels in
[10:28] <XATRIX> You have to unmute em with 'm' on your keyboard
[10:28] <VividReality> But I have no muted channels.
[10:29] <VividReality> also, I use pulse audio.
[10:29] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: back
[10:29] <VividReality> I was listening to music
[10:29] <VividReality> My computer crashed
[10:29] <VividReality> I couldn't even go into a different tty
[10:29] <VividReality> so I reset
[10:29] <VividReality> and then audio was gone
[10:30] <VividReality> just static.
[10:30] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, How did it go?
[10:30] <piyushmishra> I show as connected
[10:30] <piyushmishra> but cant ping my ubuntu from win
[10:30] <piyushmishra> :-/
[10:30] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, Ok now ping the ubuntu machine from the laptop
[10:31] <TomyLobo> While (re)installing nvidia current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[10:31] <stobix> Hi! Just wondering: can I get rid of gdm and lightwm and all that cruft and just have a terminal login, starting X with startx? Or is there some ubuntu deep magic that makes my system cry if I do it?
[10:31] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, Have you set a static ip address on your windows laptop?
[10:31] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: no ping from both sides
[10:31] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: yes I have
[10:31] <bekks> stobix: X isnt started using startx for a long time now, afaik.
[10:32] <TomyLobo> stobix xinit: /usr/bin/startx
[10:32] <piyushmishra> ipconfig on windows shows 192.168.0.25 (one I set) and ifconfig on ubuntu shows 192.168.0.1 on ubuntu(one I set)
[10:32] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: ^ and default gateway is same too
[10:32] <TomyLobo> that's 12.04
[10:32] <TomyLobo> piyushmishra are you using dhcp on both?
[10:33] <TomyLobo> and are both on the same machine?
[10:33] <TomyLobo> otherwise it's not surprising that they differ :)
[10:33] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: no win is laptop and ubuntu is desktop and am doing static on both
[10:33] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, Have you followed the page I sent you about ad-hoc networks?
[10:33] <TomyLobo> oh i missed your original question, you cant ping
[10:33] <piyushmishra> they're connected by an ad hoc network (wlan0) from my ubuntu desk
[10:33] <TomyLobo> subnet masks?
[10:34] <TomyLobo> (unlikely cause but give it nonetheless)
[10:34] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: same. Mechdave: yes Id di that
[10:34] <piyushmishra> did*
[10:34] <TomyLobo> "same" is not a good answer here
[10:34] <TomyLobo> they could be on an equally bad setting
[10:34] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: I show connected on both ends. TomyLobo: 255.255.255.0
[10:34] <TomyLobo> (though windows' default should work)
[10:34] <TomyLobo> yeah that's good
[10:35] <piyushmishra> gateway: 1.1.1.1 on both
[10:35] <TomyLobo> why? does that IP exist?
[10:35] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: no it was on some guide somewhere
[10:35] <TomyLobo> if you only have 2 machines on a network, dont enter a gateway
[10:36] <TomyLobo> on the same physical network, that is
[10:36] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: ok removing gateway
[10:36] <TomyLobo> also try and see what "arp" shows you
[10:36] <TomyLobo> (on linux)
[10:36] <TomyLobo> windows doesnt have fancy things like that :)
[10:37] <koik> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=NVq56AQ2vxgECOtvW_3-cC_MeqWSEVkU2vlXs7SL5zHkz4rz3EUUdzs6j6FXsjB4447F-isvxjqkXd4Qey2GHw#teaser
[10:37] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: well removing gateway wont let me save the config on ubuntu. so I need one. what should I put in there?
[10:37] <TomyLobo> !ops | koik
[10:37] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: I only see my eth0 on arp is that bad?
[10:38] <Mechdave> piyushmishra, You can put in the ip of the ubuntu machine as it will eventually be a gateway
[10:38] <elky> koik, please dont spam
[10:38] <TomyLobo> piyushmishra arp lists *other* machines
[10:38] <TomyLobo> not your interfaces
[10:38] <TomyLobo> well it shows the interfaces those machines are reachable through, too
[10:39] <piyushmishra> TomyLobo: so it shows my ISP machine. to which I am connected via ether
[10:39] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: done on both
[10:41] <fabx777> hi
[10:41] <elky> koik, i trust you are going to partake in this channel in the expected manner soon, to prove you are not a spammer...
[10:42] <piyushmishra> Mechdave, TomyLobo so now I have 2 problems :P
[10:42] <piyushmishra> 1. I cant seem to ping wither machine from the other
[10:42] <piyushmishra> 2. I get nat* error from iptables
[10:42] <VividReality> I have done this trouble shoot: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit
[10:42] <VividReality> but still no luck
[10:42] <piyushmishra> restarting again to try and see if the changing configs made some problem brb
[10:49] <ChrKar> I have a strange issue with my graphics card drivers. Whether i have installed amd drivers or the open source one it has the exact performance.
[10:50] <bekks> ChrKar: And whats strange about it?
[10:50] <fabx777> my microphone reproduces the sound from the headphones instead of the voip line. (ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64, 11.10 did not have these problems with no extra setting)
[10:50] <TomyLobo> exact same performance?
[10:50] <TomyLobo> yeah, be happy
[10:50] <TomyLobo> unless of course, that performance is that of the slower driver
[10:51] <ChrKar> I am not happy because the game i am trying to play is supposed to be able to be maxed out with my graphics card.
[10:51] <bekks> TomyLobo: The slower one, out of two with the same performance? ;)
[10:51] <TomyLobo> bekks stuck driver syndrome :)
[10:51] <bekks> ChrKar: And which game is it?
[10:51] <ChrKar> Trine 2
[10:51] <ChrKar> oil rush
[10:51] <ChrKar> every game. Even benchmarks
[10:52] <TomyLobo> trine 2? does that have a multi-player mode now?
[10:52] <bekks> ChrKar: And how do you measure or benchmark it?
[10:52] <ChrKar> Well the games have an option to show fps. And i have unigine benchmarks too.
[10:52] <bekks> ChrKar: And how many fps do you get?
[10:53] <ChrKar> Well in trine at 800x600 and lowest possible 20fps most of the times
[10:53] <ChrKar> with oil rush around 15-30 at 800x600 lowest
[10:53] <bekks> ChrKar: And which Ubuntu and which driver versions do you use exactly on which hardware very exactly?
[10:55] <elena-IK> how can I prevent the luks password prompt from being flooded with kernel messages?
[10:55] <ChrKar> I have ubuntu 12.10 drivers My graphics card is AMD 6450, tried driver 12.11 (beta) -the stock one from ubuntu-
[10:55] <ChrKar> also at software sources i installed one of them but i dont know version because i have strange output with glxinfo
[10:56] <bekks> ChrKar: Then take a look at the package manager instead of glxinfo
[10:56] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: still cant ping
[10:56] <zhangyuqing> Hello , everyone!
[10:57] <piyushmishra> Mechdave: is it because I had followed some instructions from before? the dhcp one?
[10:58] <ChrKar> i am sorry i said it wrong i ment :Software source-> Additional drivers-> fglrx-updates
[10:58] <defekt> piyushmishra: repeat your problem plz
[10:59] <piyushmishra> defekt: I am trying to share internet connection from my wired ubuntu desktop to over a wireless network to my windows lappy
[11:00] <defekt> piyushmishra: through iptables / nat?
[11:00] <piyushmishra> defekt: right now yes
[11:00] <piyushmishra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[11:00] <DonoPatay> Can anyone suggest an alternative for gwibber in ubuntu?
[11:00] <piyushmishra> I got an error from iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.sav line when I ran it on terminal
[11:01] <piyushmishra> iptables-restore v1.4.12: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'nat'
[11:01] <piyushmishra> Error occurred at line: 2
[11:01] <piyushmishra> Try `iptables-restore -h' or 'iptables-restore --help' for more information.
[11:01] <defekt> piyushmishra: and now your dhcp server is not wprking?
[11:01] <piyushmishra> defekt: I removed the dhcp server as we went for static ip configuration
[11:01] <ChrKar> so no idea?
[11:02] <defekt> piyushmishra: ok. What script are you trying to run?
[11:02] <piyushmishra> defekt: my ip on desktop is 192.168.0.1 on wlan0 and that of the laptop is 192.168.0.25
[11:02] <piyushmishra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[11:02] <piyushmishra> ^ this was the guide I was trying
[11:03] <defekt> is your default gateway and route set with resolv's?
[11:03] <VividReality> still no luck
[11:03] <piyushmishra> after saving the iptables to a file
[11:03] <VividReality> I am worried that the sound card blew up :P
[11:03] <VividReality> But I don't know how to test that.
[11:03] <piyushmishra> i ran the restore command which gave out that error
[11:03] <defekt> piyushmishra: pastebin iptables -L
[11:03] <VividReality> Since all the tests just detect the sounds card.
[11:04] <piyushmishra> defekt: http://pastebin.com/gRJ41uU1
[11:05] <Space_Man> how to fix "The following packages have unmet dependencies." http://paste.ubuntu.com/1456662/ ?
[11:06] <defekt> piyushmishra: the forward looks good check the client setting .. ip gw bc
[11:06] <piyushmishra> the client is windows and had the ipv4 and gateway set up properly
[11:07] <defekt> 255.255.255.0 bc?
[11:07] <piyushmishra> I connected to the network and it shows connected but then it wont ping the ip
[11:07] <piyushmishra> ping 192.168.0.1 shows unreachable
[11:07] <defekt> will it ping 192.168.0.1?
[11:07] <bekks> piyushmishra: Whats your local IP then?
[11:07] <defekt> mm
[11:07] <piyushmishra> ip of windows is 192.168.0.25
[11:08] <piyushmishra> that of ubuntu is 192.168.0.1
[11:08] <bekks> piyushmishra: And the IP of your Ubuntu?
[11:08] <defekt> linux machine
[11:08] <bekks> piyushmishra: And which default gateway did you configure?
[11:08] <piyushmishra> 192.168.0.1
[11:08] <piyushmishra> ^ gateway
[11:08] <bekks> piyushmishra: And your ubuntu is configured for routing?
[11:09] <piyushmishra> bekks: I am not sure how do I check that?
[11:09] <defekt> bekks: http://pastebin.com/gRJ41uU1
[11:09] <piyushmishra> ok so to sum up
[11:09] <bekks> piyushmishra: Since you have to check it, you havent configured it :)
[11:09] <piyushmishra> I have my internet coming from eth0 I need to share it over wlan0
[11:09] <bekks> defekt: That iptables rules are pretty pointless.
[11:09] <bekks> piyushmishra: Then you have to configure routing.
[11:10] <bekks> !router | piyushmishra
[11:10] <piyushmishra> #fail :P
[11:10] <bekks> !routing | piyushmishra
[11:10] <defekt> type route in console
[11:10] <piyushmishra> ok so I was following this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing#Ubuntu_Internet_Gateway_Method_.28iptables.29
[11:10] <bekks> defekt: Stop being unhelpful please.
[11:10] <bekks> piyushmishra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[11:11] <piyushmishra> bekks: my ubuntu is supposed to act like a router
[11:11] <defekt> how so .. it takes iptables and a static route...
[11:11] <bekks> piyushmishra: For internet connection sharing to be work, you dont need iptables.
[11:12] <piyushmishra> bekks: I tried the one on top (gui)
[11:12] <bekks> piyushmishra: And did you do that net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 too?
[11:12] <piyushmishra> but it shared the connection directly
[11:12] <bekks> piyushmishra: Which is what you want, as you said.
[11:12] <piyushmishra> bekks: as it is shared directly, the ISP wont let me use it I need to share it through my ubuntu
[11:12] <piyushmishra> the ISP needs to think ubuntu is surfing
[11:12] <defekt> bekks: oh my that's an iptables config dot dot
[11:13] <bekks> piyushmishra: Otherwise, you need a wireless adapter that is capable of running as AP, and you have to configure your box as a router.
[11:13] <piyushmishra> so I need to share it via iptables I think
[11:13] <bekks> piyushmishra: Forget iptables. Iptables does not share anything, it is a firewall.
[11:14] <piyushmishra> I dont know if my wireless router is capable of doing that it is asus N-10
[11:14] <bekks> piyushmishra: Then you have to find it out, since I dont know that device, too.
[11:15] <piyushmishra> http://www.asus.com/Networks/Wireless_Adapters/USBN10/#specifications is the one
[11:17] <piyushmishra> btw I can use the usb to share internet from windows
[11:17] <piyushmishra> so it is possible to do that with that device
[11:17] <piyushmishra> just need to find a way to do it on ubuntu as I need to use my ubuntu
[11:17] <piyushmishra> brb
[11:18]  * htp waves
[11:24] <btral> hi
[11:25] <btral> i have a log file in /var/log/firewall that it's owner is ulogd
[11:25] <btral> how change /var/log/firewall structure. for example user **** rhater than sec ip in file?
[11:29] <guang_> which command can be used to look up the size of file in megabyte?
[11:29] <bekks> ls
[11:29] <bekks> guang_: ls -lha e.g.
[11:29] <btral> how can i chenge struture of log file (firewall)????????
[11:32] <john____> I'm currently using 12.04 and have been holding off upgrading to 12.10 due to the note in the release notes warning that there are issues with ATI Rage Pro chip-sets. How would I find out if that has been fixed? Does it even affect upgraders as opposed to fresh installs?
[11:38] <Varotone> Hello, guys
[11:39] <Varotone> When will LTS end for 10.04?
[11:41] <Space_Man> Varotone: sometime in 2015
[11:41] <Varotone> Dammit
[11:41] <Varotone> Wait, 2015?
[11:42] <Varotone> I thought the desktop version only had 3 years of LTS
[11:42] <Space_Man> no, 2017
[11:42]  * Space_Man needs more coffee
[11:43] <Space_Man> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS is a long-term support release. While it lacks some new features, it will receive guaranteed support for five years from April 2012."
[11:43] <Space_Man> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[11:43] <cfhowlett> Varotone: LTS has longer support ...
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Varotone: as on 12.04 LTS expanded to 5 years for desktop.  for 10.04 it's only 3 years for desktop
[11:45] <Varotone> Fine, so does that mean they will take down repositories this next year?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> Varotone: take down?  No but they won't be supported any longer ...
[11:46] <Henric> Hello! I'm kind of a new Ubuntu user and want to install a *.tar.gz file. I've read that I need to extract it from terminal and compile it with ./configure ... But ./configure doesn't work for me. Do I need to install something first?
[11:46] <Varotone> cfhowlett: ok, thanks a lot!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Varotone: best of luck
[11:48] <VividReality> I really could use some help.
[11:50] <adgall> Good rooms anyone?
[11:51] <VividReality> I've ran several tests, benchmarks, etcetera. there is just no error.
[11:51] <VividReality> But also no audio.
[11:57] <guang_> which calculator is easy to use for + - * /
[12:02] <t432> can somebody take a look at this and comment. http://pastebin.com/4yWcGqdz
[12:02] <t432> dependency issue
[12:03] <TomyLobo> While (re)installing nvidia current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[12:04] <TomyLobo> nvidia-current*
[12:05] <t432> anyone?
[12:06] <TheFlipside> then install nvidia-experimental-310
[12:06] <TomyLobo> i'm through with the -experimental packages
[12:07] <TheFlipside> why? they are so awesome
[12:07] <TomyLobo> they broke my system
[12:07] <TomyLobo> couldnt boot
[12:07] <TomyLobo> luckily i had an old kernel without that module
[12:08] <w0rm-_x> what does the experimental do
[12:08] <TomyLobo> these packages have to work
[12:09] <TomyLobo> nvidia-current and linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic are both regular ubuntu 12.04 packages
[12:09] <TomyLobo> they should at the very least *install*
[12:09] <TomyLobo> (or be marked at breaking/conflicting)
[12:09] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: whats wrong with the default nouveau driver?
[12:10] <TheFlipside> stema requires the nvidia-experimental-310 to work
[12:10] <TheFlipside> *steam
[12:13] <TomyLobo> ThinkT510 does that have 3d acceleration?
[12:13] <TomyLobo> with full extensions and speed?
[12:13] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: try it and find out
[12:13] <TomyLobo> ThinkT510 i'm pretty sure i read it doesn't
[12:14] <TomyLobo> i'm not trying random things which complicate future attempts at solving the issue now
[12:14] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: are you trying to get a game running?
[12:14] <TomyLobo> it's complicated
[12:14] <TomyLobo> one word: optimus
[12:15] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: have fun with that
[12:15] <TomyLobo> :)
[12:15] <TomyLobo> it worked
[12:15] <TomyLobo> but with -35 it broke
[12:15] <TomyLobo> i traced it to the failed module build
[12:16] <w0rm-_x> TommehM, how did you do that
[12:19] <kylescottmcgill> Hey anyone use the underscore.php by anahkiasen im trying to use it inside a route, and it keeps throwing an error that it can not find X Class, i have it loaded in the bundle, anything else im suppose to do?
[12:22] <d0tnet_> ping
[12:23] <w0rm-_x> ping
[12:23] <w0rm-_x> ~ping
[12:23] <w0rm-_x> huh
[12:23] <TomyLaptop> w0rm-_x, how did i trace it?
[12:23] <w0rm-_x> yeah
[12:23] <t432> tried "sudo apt-get --fix-broken install:" same errpr =>  http://pastebin.com/4yWcGqdz
[12:24] <w0rm-_x> how did you trace the failed module
[12:24] <kylescottmcgill> fuck wrong room.... sorry
[12:24] <jonesn420> hi
[12:24] <Tm_T> kylescottmcgill: language, please
[12:24] <TomyLaptop> 1. i reinstalled all the related packages and noticed the error
[12:24] <kylescottmcgill> sorry
[12:25] <jonesn420> could someone lend me any suggestions of why my pc runs hot when playing flash videos? it doesnt even run this hot playing games like 0ad warzone etc.  instantly stops once i close the video
[12:25] <TomyLaptop> 2. a guy on #bumblebee (the primus developer) said the module isn't up to date with my kernel after 1 second of looking at the output of optirun --debug :)
[12:25] <lizhiqiang> hello
[12:25] <w0rm-_x> TomyLaptop, I though you opened the binary codes in the RAM and did some geeky stuff to trace out the module :D
[12:30] <d0tnet_> ping
[12:31] <w0rm-_x> ping
[12:31] <d0tnet_> pong
[12:32] <w0rm-_x> pong
[12:33] <t432> solved.
[12:34] <d0tnet_> how to disable keyring ubuntu
[12:36] <Nik05> d0tnet_ what do you want to do?
[12:36] <d0tnet_> r00t
[12:43] <cakeboss> hey all. I was wondering if there is a program for ubuntu that automatically tunnels all of my internet traffic through given proxies.
[12:45] <cakeboss> Anyone?
[12:46] <TomyLaptop> cakeboss, a transparent squid might do the job
[12:47] <khaos> hi
[12:47] <TomyLaptop> there are tutorials on that. make sure they're for a local proxy
[12:47] <TomyLaptop> google local transparent proxy
[12:47] <tutucutiecat> Hello everyone!
[12:48] <TomyLobo> I have both nvidia-current and linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic. While (re)installing nvidia-current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[12:51] <khaos> hi i have a laptop (sony) vaio and the webcam is working only If I reboot from Windows. If I startup my laptop in Ubuntu after shutdown, Cheese or camorama doesnt detect the cam, In lsusb it shows it (Ricoh Model)
[12:56] <TomyLaptop> vaio? condolences
[12:56] <TomyLaptop> the stories i've heard...
[12:57] <TomyLaptop> basically dont ever delete your windows if there's even the slightest chance you'll ever need a windows again
[13:00] <t432> i just installed moblock which has blocked my browser.  How do enable it?
[13:00] <smartracer> my keyboard is not working at recovery mode
[13:03] <Xaseron> does somebody remeber in which releases the default shell dash was?
[13:05] <tutucutiecat> khaos,  I don't have problem testing my webcam using Cheese webcam App.  I know what you mean, lsusb tells you there is a webcam device installed on your laptop
[13:05] <ThinkT510> !dash | Xaseron
[13:08] <t432> I followed the instruction : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock to install moblock but when try to cd to "/etc/blockcontrol/" it does not exist
[13:09] <ThinkT510> t432: did you read the warning at the top of that page?
[13:09] <t432>  ThinkT510: I just noticed :)
[13:10] <TomyLobo> I have both nvidia-current and linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic. While (re)installing nvidia-current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[13:10] <t432> ThinkT510: if i do apt-get remove would it stop the service and remove it?
[13:10] <tutucutiecat> khaos, it will work or try to uninstall your ubuntu and reinstall it again. Cheese Webcam Booth should work!
[13:10] <t432> becuase blockcontrol which is supposed to be the .exe is no recgnised
[13:11] <t432> not*
[13:11] <ThinkT510> t432: exe? thats a windows executable
[13:11] <t432> ThinkT510: I meant it it in linux term
[13:11] <t432> x
[13:16] <rihen> hello i upgraded ubuntu 12.04 lts with updates on x86 system,i had completely removed unity and installed gnome3 and after updating and rebooting my gnome environment has become disorganized with missing window frames,what can i do ?
[13:17] <t432> ok package removed but browser still not connecting?
[13:18] <rihen> hello i upgraded ubuntu 12.04 lts with updates on x86 system,i had completely removed unity and installed gnome3 and after updating and rebooting my gnome environment has become disorganized with missing window frames,what can i do ?
[13:19] <GuestK> Hello
[13:19] <GuestK> anybody online?
[13:19] <GuestK> I have got a question
[13:19] <GuestK> i want to configure my Xubuntu to autostart with XBMC
[13:20] <GuestK> i am using lightdm
[13:20] <GuestK> I put in lightdm.conf that it should use  session "XBMC"
[13:20] <GuestK> but it doesnt work
[13:20] <GuestK> it always load Xfce
[13:22] <jonesn420> could someone lend me any suggestions of why my pc runs hot when playing flash videos? it doesnt even run this hot playing games like 0ad warzone etc.  instantly stops once i close the video
[13:23] <ouyes> jonesn420, what is the output of uname -a of your system?
[13:23] <jonesn420> Linux TGIL13 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:45:18 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[13:23] <jonesn420> it is wattos
[13:23] <jonesn420> r6
[13:23] <kaffien_> is there a way to  tell ubuntu  SMART detection to ignore a certain hard drive?
[13:24] <kaffien_> I have an SSD drive that  SMART seems to think is being used outside of parameters.  That drive is my windows 7 hdd.  Ubuntu keeps on kicking up hard drive errors.
[13:25] <jonesn420> ouyes, would it matter if my video drivers are not installed yet at all?
[13:25] <jonesn420> i know it has nothing to do with processor but just wonderin
[13:25] <kaffien_> The ssd drive is not mounted in ubuntu
[13:26] <tomreyn> kaffien_: where do you see this reported? SMART indicators are not analyzed unless oyu have installed software which does it.
[13:27] <jonesn420> i dont have a laptop to worry about power management extra stuff either just a desktop pc
[13:27] <kaffien_> ubuntu partition manager keeps popping up  every other 30 minutes or so
[13:27] <kaffien_> i dont recall the exact name of the utility
[13:27] <ha1dfo> hi all, I've installed Ubuntu 12.10, and after logging in to google calendar in Firefox, it suggested to install it. Now I have the Calendar in my left starter bar, and have absolutely no idea how to remove.
[13:27] <jonesn420> kaffein_ gnome-disk-utility gparted?
[13:27] <kaffien_> its called disk utility
[13:27] <jonesn420> yeah
[13:28] <Ben64> jonesn420: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[13:28] <ha1dfo> If I click on it with right button, and choose close, it closes google calendar apptab. If i lock it to Launcher i'm not closer to the solution... I'm afraid of installing others, because i won't be able to remove them. Do you know where are these configured?
[13:28] <jonesn420> Ben64, wattos is based off ubuntu therefore it should matter right
[13:28] <jonesn420> their support sucks
[13:29] <jonesn420> shouldn't matter* lol
[13:29] <Ben64> it does matter
[13:29] <Ben64> this channel is for ubuntu only, not things based on it
[13:29] <jonesn420> lol yeah whatever. i know what i am talkin about. it is ubuntu derived
[13:30] <Ben64> !derivatives
[13:31] <tomreyn> he's already left
[13:31] <Ben64> oh
[13:32] <tomreyn> !rootirc > root
[13:33] <lucido> what mini pcie wifi bluetooth combo card works well with linux?
[13:33] <Catbuntu> Hey
[13:35] <tomreyn> lucido: i didn't know such exists, but i assume there won't be so many different ones out there that you can safely choose your top 5 based on their tech specs and then check for each of those whether they are supported.
[13:36] <tomreyn> it's way easier to check whether a given device works well than to get a list of well supported devices of a given class
[13:37] <t432> I removed all moblock and blockcontrol packages but browser still wont connect.
[13:37] <t432> even restarted
[13:37] <t432> any ideas?
[13:37] <tomreyn> t432: connect to what? a website?
[13:37] <t432> tomreyn: yes
[13:37] <TomyLaptop> on ivy bridge integrated graphics chip, is it possible to get S3TC support on linux?
[13:38] <mariomerola> buon pomeriggio a tutti
[13:38] <TomyLaptop> i know the chip supports it
[13:38] <mariomerola> !list
[13:38] <tomreyn> t432: does !sudo iptables -L! still list block rules?
[13:38] <tomreyn> t432: does "sudo iptables -L" still list block rules?
[13:39] <t432> tomreyn: yes
[13:39] <tomreyn> t432: can you pastebinit ?
[13:39] <t432> 1 sec
[13:39] <tomreyn> sudo iptables -L | pastebinit
[13:41] <john____> I'm currently using 12.04 and have been holding off upgrading to 12.10 due to the note in the release notes warning that there are issues with ATI Rage Pro chip-sets. How would I find out if that has been fixed? Does it even affect upgraders as opposed to fresh installs?
[13:41] <tomreyn> john____: the easiest way to find out would be with a live cd
[13:41] <mariomerola> buona sera
[13:42] <mariomerola> !list
[13:42] <john____> tomreyn: but the live cd will not have been changed since the initial release?
[13:42] <FreShPanDa> How to join channel anonOps please?
[13:44] <tomreyn> john____: that's right, are you worried about updates to 12.10 to introduce new problems not found in the original 12.10 release then?
[13:44] <tomreyn> !ot FreShPanDa
[13:44] <tomreyn> !ot | FreShPanDa
[13:44] <t432> tomreyn: Did you get it?
[13:44] <john____> tomreyn: No, I'm wondering if the problem has since been fixed and won't affect me if I upgrade now
[13:45] <tomreyn> t432: yes i received your private message.
[13:46] <ThinkT510> john____: ati rage is very old, isn't it?
[13:46] <tomreyn> john____: oh i see, true this will be difficult to test this way. you could inspect the related bug reports (if you can find them)
[13:46] <john____> ThinkT510: Yes, it's a fairly old machine
[13:46] <tomreyn> t432: so there's still something which sets up these iptable rules on boot apparently.
[13:46] <ThinkT510> john____: then chances are it will never get fixed
[13:47] <tomreyn> t432: ls -R /etc/cron* | pastebinit
[13:47] <ManDrake> Anyone know what this error means. Everything I read on the Internet leads me in circles.
[13:47] <ManDrake> libGL: screen 0 does not appear to be DRI2 capable
[13:47] <ManDrake> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/tls/swrast_dri.so
[13:47] <ManDrake> libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri/swrast_dri.so
[13:47] <ManDrake> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[13:47] <ThinkT510> john____: if its too much to maintain then support can get dropped
[13:48] <john____> ThinkT510: well, it affects enough people to warrant mentioning in the release notes, so one might be lucky
[13:48] <t432> tomreyn:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1456958/
[13:49] <t432> tomreyn: its pglcmd, works after stopping it
[13:49] <tomreyn> t432: so /etc/cron.daily/pglcmd looks like it shouldn't be there. but that's nto the source of this problem. how did you install, and remove pgl?
[13:49] <tomreyn> nto -> not
[13:50] <tomreyn> t432: didn't you say you had uninstalled it?
[13:50] <mrob> Does anybody know of a PDF viewer that can display continuous pages like Evince but uses the MuPDF engine?
[13:51] <t432> tomreyn: right. I didnt install pglcmd, must have come with the packages that I installed (moblock, blocontrol..) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoBlock
[13:51] <t432> followed the above tutorial
[13:52] <t432> tomreyn:  I installed the following packages: line: sudo apt-get install moblock blockcontrol mobloquer
[13:52] <t432> must have come with one of them
[13:52] <t432> to remove it, do I do apt-get remove on pglcmd?
[13:52] <t432> that work right?
[13:53] <tomreyn> t432: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l moblo\* blockcontrol pgld pglcmd pglgui | pastebinit
[13:54] <tomreyn> t432: let's see which packages are still installed first
[13:54] <tomreyn> that's what this command i just posted is about
[13:55] <t432> tomreyn:  I purged pglcmd , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1456980/
[13:55] <TomyLaptop> I have both nvidia-current and linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic. While (re)installing nvidia-current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[13:55] <tomreyn> t432: so purge pgld, too and you should be good
[13:56] <t432> yes
[13:57] <t432> tomreyn: that last command is pretty loaded
[13:58] <t432> i mean it gives out alot of juicy info
[13:58] <tomreyn> t432: you mean dpkg?
[13:58] <t432> I mean COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l moblo\* blockcontrol pgld pglcmd pglgui
[13:59] <t432> nvm
[13:59] <tomreyn> well it lists package status
[13:59] <t432> right.
[13:59] <tomreyn> quite useful indeed
[14:01] <t432> Apprently the moblock's successor is peerguardian but I cant find any install instruction docs
[14:02] <t432> got it
[14:02] <tomreyn> http://sourceforge.net/p/peerguardian/wiki/pgl-Install-DebianUbuntu/
[14:02] <tomreyn> i wouldn't recommend both software or this attempt of magically remaining safe, though
[14:03] <tomreyn> there's actually been scientific research which brought up those blacklists are useless.
[14:03] <TomyLaptop> uh, what is linux-signed-image-generic-lts-quantal doing in precise?
[14:04] <tomreyn> TomyLaptop: may be part of the upgrade path to quantal
[14:04] <TomyLaptop> hmmm
[14:04] <gabrign> hello
[14:04] <ThinkT510> TomyLaptop: where are you seeing that?
[14:04] <tomreyn> i think the release upgrade downloads some archive which has this or a smilar name when you initiate a release upgrade (which can later be cancelled)
[14:05] <gabrign> there is some program update the wifi reception more fast than the simple percent of the wifi icon ?
[14:05] <TomyLaptop> aptitude, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-signed-image-generic-lts-quantal
[14:05] <gabrign> I need found the best place for one wifi with my direccional antenna
[14:05] <gabrign> and I need update the quality reception more fast than that, is possible ?
[14:06] <TomyLaptop> ugh, learn to declinate
[14:06] <compdoc> ouch, big words so early in the morning
[14:06] <TomyLaptop> decline*
[14:06] <TomyLaptop> the word was indeed too big
[14:08] <xro> gabrign, you just need to test the signal power? in order to place you AP... ?
[14:08] <gabrign> xro exactly
[14:09] <gabrign> xro one fast update of the signal power, for find fast the place where put the antenna
[14:09] <xro> gabrign, there is a simple android application (for you mobile)
[14:09] <gabrign> I had android
[14:09] <gabrign> i use meraki there
[14:10] <luyang> I would use Ubuntu if there was a decent Photoshop and Raw replacement...
[14:10] <luyang> Gimp just doesn't seem to match up
[14:11] <gabrign> xro which app ?
[14:11] <xro> gabrign, how many AP do you have to place?
[14:11] <streulma> found a way to run Ubuntu with full 3D support on Virtualbox
[14:12] <ThinkT510> luyang: you could use ubuntu and just keep a vm with windows with photoshop in it
[14:12] <xro> gabrign, "wifi analyzer" app show you the db for your AP and the channel...
[14:13] <gabrign> xro thanks you , I will try
[14:14] <xro> gabrign, np, i used it many times for simple networks...
[14:14] <luyang> ThinkT510: that's a good point…
[14:14] <gabrign> xro WOW this is promising
[14:15] <streulma> luyang: you may use the License key of Windows 7 that cames with your computer
[14:15] <luyang> streulma: I've upgraded my WIndows 7 to Winodws 8
[14:15] <streulma> luyang: you are permitted by Microsoft to run a Licensed copy of Windows virtualised
[14:15] <streulma> luyang: Windows 8 also
[14:15] <opengl> hello, i have an program which alwas says "libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast " at startup, what to do?
[14:15] <TheLordOfTime> streulma, that only applies for the "fresh install" keys.
[14:15] <luyang> ok so I can install Windows 7 virtualized and then upgrade it virtualized?
[14:15] <TheLordOfTime> streulma, upgrade keys for win8 won't work :P
[14:16] <TheLordOfTime> (they changed their policies recently on that0
[14:16] <streulma> luyang: it's described in the Windows 7 or 8 License
[14:16] <luyang> tl;dr
[14:16] <opengl> libstc++ is installed, i have done resarch, but i can't solve that problem
[14:16] <streulma> TheLordOfTime: Upgrade keys also works, I can do a clean install with it :)
[14:17] <TheLordOfTime> streulma, *shrugs* they've been changing their policies a lot, so... *shrugs*
[14:17] <streulma> TheLordOfTime: clean install from USB or ISO also posible
[14:18] <streulma> TheLordOfTime: I can move my License elsewhere legally to call to Microsoft :)
[14:19] <streulma> TheLordOfTime: don't worrie to call to Microsoft :) :) :)
[14:19] <streulma> ok, we are on the #ubuntu freenode, because Windows is offtopic !!
[14:20] <TheLordOfTime> streulma, #ubuntu-offtopic for windows stuffs, i think.  or ##windows?  :P
[14:21] <streulma> that's all because I work with Mac :)
[14:21] <streulma> can't run Ubuntu on my Macbook :(
[14:22] <TheLordOfTime> !mac > streulma
[14:22] <TheLordOfTime> ;)
[14:22] <xro> !mac
[14:23] <ZONDA> hay algun riesgo al poner ubunut en una tablet android¿?
[14:23] <tomreyn> !es | ZONDA
[14:33] <ineb> hello, ubuntu 12.04 uses grub 1.99, is this already grub2? (sounds like a stupid question, but iam unsure because the config etc. is already generated in grub2 style)
[14:34] <Ddin> legacy grub = 0.xx versions
[14:34] <TMinus36> Bit puzzled. So I installed 12.12 on a fresh drive last night. Did the download updates during install bit. Though when I logged in and issues an apt-get update/upgrade it had over 300MB of new updates. I don't recall having that happen with other desktop versions. Anyone have an idea?
[14:34] <Ddin> grub2 = ver 1.xx-2.00
[14:35] <TMinus36> Simply my curiousity. :)
[14:35] <ineb> Ddin: ah, nice to know. thanks
[14:35] <Ddin> you welcome ineb
[14:35] <ineb> :)
[14:35] <elkng> is ubuntu has spyware ?
[14:36] <tomreyn> ineb: it doesn't make a lot of sense, so that's not a rare question
[14:36] <TMinus36> elkng: yes, please uninstall quickly!
[14:36] <TMinus36> :D :D
[14:36]  * TMinus36 pulls out his troll rifle
[14:37] <elkng> TMinus36: what are you suppose to do with the riffle ?
[14:37]  * TMinus36 points at an elk
[14:37] <TMinus36> jk
[14:37] <TMinus36> :D
[14:37] <TMinus36> Sorry wrong season.
[14:38]  * TMinus36 hands elkng a cup of coffee and bowl of "Happy Holidays"
[14:38] <TMinus36> :D
[14:39] <kubanc> hellow! i have ubuntu 12.04... Where can i see my port number for remote desktop
[14:40] <TMinus36> kubanc: If you're familiar with your system and 'netstat' would be quite easy to track down. Otherwise there should be an option in the software to provide specifically a port number. Google should result in the default though> :)
[14:41] <tomreyn> kubanc: if you are referring to "remote desktop protocol (RDP)", that's a windows specific protocol
[14:41] <TMinus36> tomreyn: he's most likely referring to the client and current connection.
[14:41] <kubanc> tomreyn, i need my default port for desktop sharing in ubuntu 12.04
[14:41] <TMinus36> If not I withdrawl.
[14:41] <TMinus36> :D
[14:42] <TMinus36> tomreyn: I withdrawl, heh. All yours. :D
[14:43] <smacktalk> 3389 is remote desktop
[14:44] <TMinus36> smacktalk: give a man a fish and so on.. :D
[14:45] <TMinus36> better to show him how to use the fishing rod
[14:47] <TomyLaptop> 3 sticks and 2 string dude
[14:48] <TMinus36> haha
[14:48] <TMinus36> Ain't that the only way? Modern rods are for the lazy!
[14:48] <TMinus36> Or 100lb plus sport fishing. ;)
[14:48] <TMinus36> freshly grilled Tuna / sharkfin anyone? :D
[14:51] <smacktalk> is there a good irc client for file sharing?
[14:51] <TMinus36> o_O
[14:51] <drmacro> put 12.10 on a usb stick, boots fine, but lots of apps won't run (for example Firefox says it can't find a profile) others don't don anything on double click...
[14:52] <TomyLobo> smacktalk dont expect help with illegal downloads here
[14:52] <TomyLobo> yes yes of course you're only doing legal file sharing. right.
[14:52] <Vjarjadian> Hi, i've just installed 12.10 on a VM and i'm getting constant 20% CPU usage... 12.04 was much lower. if this expected with this version or are there background processes which could be running since it's a new install?
[14:52] <TMinus36> btw if anyone saw my earlier message on curisity, twas towards ver. 12.10. Mis-remembered it as 12.12 D:
[14:52] <TMinus36> lol TomyLobo
[14:53]  * TMinus36 points smacktalk to dalnet(if they're still around) have fun! bye!
[14:53] <TMinus36> ;p
[14:53]  * TMinus36 cringes at the thought of connecting to garbage
[14:53] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: What kind of specs you running on? What kind of activity is the server/system doing atm compared to when running your other VM?
[14:54] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: Any differences in setup? Or is this a default install on both..
[14:54] <Vjarjadian> it's just been installed, 1 vCPU and 512MB RAM same as 12.04 CPU is an i7 2700k
[14:54] <TMinus36> as for new processes I apparently can't recall the correct version, so someone else will have to step in to answer that specific question
[14:54] <TMinus36> ;)
[14:54] <Vjarjadian> it's just been installed and had the GUI slapped on.
[14:54] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: any changes in system load running the VM from one install to the other?
[14:54] <Vjarjadian> and updated
[14:55] <TMinus36> on the host OS
[14:55] <Vjarjadian> i'm measuring the CPU load from inside the VM
[14:55] <TMinus36> indeed.
[14:55] <Vjarjadian> host is not doing anything stressing
[14:55] <TMinus36> Which what I was asking about. ;P
[14:56] <TMinus36> A stressed cpu regardless of dedication in the VM will affect vm performance.
[14:56] <Vjarjadian> only got 2 VMs running of ubuntu, shut down the dozen windows VMs since i don't need them untill samba4 is running
[14:56] <TMinus36> I'm not sure I've experienced this occurence running the two server versions in a VM
[14:56] <TMinus36> I'd have to do some testing on the desktop version a bit more
[14:56] <tf2ftw> any apache gurus here?
[14:56] <TMinus36> running 'top' do you notice a higher amount of total tasks?
[14:57] <TMinus36> I don't recall briefing through any major differences int he changelog that would drastically change the cpu load
[14:57] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: ^
[14:57] <TMinus36> even in a VM
[14:57] <TMinus36> perhaps someone else can chime in though?
[14:57] <TMinus36> hopefully. :)
[14:57] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: sorry bud
[14:57] <TMinus36> tf2ftw: #apache I'm sure .. tis dis way >
[14:58] <Vjarjadian> something called compiz using CPU
[14:58] <TMinus36> ouch
[14:58] <TMinus36> yeah that would surely be a good culprit
[14:58] <TMinus36> are you not running that on the older version?
[14:58] <TMinus36> 3d accell enhancement
[14:58] <TMinus36> but its not new to 12.10
[14:58] <FloodBot1> TMinus36: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <TMinus36> FloodBot1: im not pasting bot, im caffeinated, now be quiet :P
[14:59] <TMinus36> but on that note I have hungry mouths to feed..
[14:59] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: I'll look into it a bit and hit you up in PM if you're around ina  few. Don't want to upset the bot anymore. :P
[15:00] <TMinus36> I'll run a few tests on my end as well.
[15:00] <ironhalik> can I force hard drive to spin down on a desktop?
[15:01] <Vjarjadian> ironhalik, don't use it for a while
[15:01] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: btw which virtualization software did you mention you were using? I might have missed it.
[15:01] <ironhalik> like, 20 minutes? :>
[15:01] <Vjarjadian> virtualbox
[15:01] <TMinus36> roger
[15:01] <Vjarjadian> i use ESXi in production and virtualbox for testing, since it's a lot easier to run a ton of things on
[15:02] <secretyoo>  /join #<canale>
[15:03] <secretyoo>  /join #<#ubuntu>
[15:03] <Vjarjadian> hmm... i almost can't believe this... but i've shut the system monitor and left the terminal open and the cpu has dropped to sub 10%... the system monitor on older versions of ubuntu never caused that amount of load
[15:03] <secretyoo> hjola
[15:05] <TomyLobo> secretyoo english or try /join #ubuntu.it
[15:07] <skp1> tootie
[15:07] <secretyoo> oiù
[15:08] <Tex_Nick> !it | secretyoo
[15:08] <Vjarjadian> well... seems the issue was just the system monitor... don't know if thats done by a seperate channel but might be wise for them to look to see if others get high CPU when running it in 12.10
[15:08] <drmacro> liveusb 12.10 boots ok, apps won't run though
[15:08] <libpenguin> what are ubuntu backports ??
[15:10] <mrpink57> libpenguin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[15:13] <mr-rich> Can U use a package from 12.10 in 12.04?
[15:13] <mr-rich> I want to get ddate back ...
[15:14] <dakotawulfy> probably not if they remove  probably depends on a lib
[15:14] <dakotawulfy> so they don have in repose now
[15:15] <dakotawulfy> u could try it mr-rich
[15:15] <dakotawulfy> but if not in repos now that probably why
[15:16] <TomyLobo> I have both nvidia-current and linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic. While (re)installing nvidia-current i get "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.2.0-35-generic (x86_64)" http://pastebin.com/7zqG871X full log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1452737/ the log file mentioned.
[15:16] <skp1> poop
[15:18] <skp1> POOP
[15:18] <TomyLobo> grow up or get out
[15:19] <dakotawulfy>  TomyLobo are u doing in manually ???
[15:19] <TomyLobo> nope
[15:19] <dakotawulfy> u suing jocky
[15:19] <TomyLobo> i'm reinstalling the package, which triggers dkms
[15:20] <Tex_Nick> mr-rich : take a look at http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.10/ubuntu-main-i386/util-linux_2.20.1-5.1ubuntu2_i386.deb.html ... maybe that will help
[15:20] <dakotawulfy> but how are u trying to install it
[15:20] <TomyLobo> the package?
[15:21] <TomyLobo> or the module?
[15:21] <TomyLobo> it fails to build, so i cant install it
[15:21] <dakotawulfy> going to say if u got gui  then try the jockey gtk
[15:21] <dakotawulfy> it will let help u
[15:21] <TomyLobo> jockey-kde is equivalent?
[15:21] <dakotawulfy> o
[15:21] <dakotawulfy>  not sure
[15:21] <dakotawulfy>  dont use kde
[15:22] <TomyLobo> i use kde
[15:22] <TomyLobo> kubuntu
[15:22] <dakotawulfy>  well might work in kde
[15:22] <libpenguin> mrpink57: how to add localy saved packages destination as source so as to automatically use them for dpkg installation ?
[15:22] <dakotawulfy>  it is a gtk
[15:22] <dakotawulfy>  not sure
[15:22] <dakotawulfy>  though
[15:23] <TomyLobo> there are 2 packages
[15:23] <TomyLobo> jockey-gtk and jocket-kde
[15:23] <dakotawulfy> ok check it out
[15:24] <dakotawulfy> well is in in older ones
[15:24] <dakotawulfy>  jockey-kde
[15:24] <TomyLobo> 12.04
[15:24] <TomyLobo> not THAT old :)
[15:24] <Guest86056> Hello I am using ubuntu 12.10 And I was wondering if there was a way to use my own pictures as my desktop background and have them change about every 30 Secs to another one in an endless loop
[15:24] <dakotawulfy> just go to
[15:24] <rocky> hello guys
[15:24] <dakotawulfy>  synaptic and check
[15:24] <libpenguin> mrpink57: how to add localy saved packages destination as source so as to automatically use them for installation ?
[15:24] <dakotawulfy> hi
[15:25] <TomyLaptop> dakotawulfy, ok that was useless. all it shows me is the wlan driver
[15:25] <TomyLaptop> which i already had
[15:25] <dakotawulfy> yea
[15:26] <dakotawulfy>  because it need the drivers
[15:26] <dakotawulfy>  u got it installed
[15:26] <mrpink57> libpenguin: I'm sorry I am not sure what you are asking the wording seems confusing to me.
[15:26] <dakotawulfy>  now
[15:26] <rocky> How to turn on a feature where login screen comes to the point Ubuntu 12.10 is loaded, in other words when i start laptop, the laptop waits for user login credentials then the user enters and then Ubuntu loads, i'm looking to allow Ubuntu to load and open login screen as if screen is locked
[15:26] <dakotawulfy> hold i check
[15:26] <TomyLaptop> dakotawulfy, i'm looking for an nvidia module, not a wlan driver
[15:26] <TomyLaptop> graphics driver
[15:26] <dakotawulfy>  have to have nvidia stuff for it to pick up
[15:26] <dakotawulfy>  so it works
[15:27] <poq> >>> I want to repair Windows from viruses. Can I access registry / autostart and other things using Ubuntu in live cd mode? Is it possible?
[15:27] <dakotawulfy>  jocky give me a second
[15:27] <libpenguin> mrpink57: i have some apps packages saved locally....so if i want to add their destination as source acting as local repo so that while doing apt-get they install from the local souce !
[15:28] <will9455> Hello I was wondering if I could get some help on setting up a background desktop that changes pics like every 30 secs
[15:28] <bobweaver> will9455,  what version of Ubuntu ?
[15:28] <will9455> 12.10
[15:28] <Septima> poq: the only real way to repair windows when affected by malware is to reformat and reinstall
[15:28] <ShawnRisk> How come when I try to connect to a wireless connection, it says Wireless Connection disconnected?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10.
[15:28] <bobweaver> will9455,  there is a real cool program called varity it is on launchpad
[15:29] <dakotawulfy>   TomyLobo go to synaptic and install nvidia common
[15:29] <poq> Septima: it is just some banners not a danger viruses
[15:29] <winb> I would really like to use the spacefun theme from Debian on ubuntu 12.04, but it seems impossible to fix
[15:29] <winb> anyone?
[15:29] <TomyLaptop> "dkms build nvidia-current" returns "Error! Invalid number of arguments passed."
[15:29] <dakotawulfy> then run it see if it picks it up
[15:29] <Septima> bobweaver: variety? i love that one
[15:29] <TomyLaptop> the manpage suggests what i wrote is correct, though
[15:30] <will9455> I went to the software center and it is not there wher is launchpad
[15:30] <winb> Im using gnome 3 by the way
[15:30] <bobweaver> will9455,  or if you want to do it the way that gnome does it you have to create xml files for it to read and set the timming in them to do the same. it a pain
[15:30] <ShawnRisk> by the way I am using a router that is connected to the internet box.
[15:30] <TomyLaptop> dakotawulfy, i have all the necessary packages. the package installer fails to build the module
[15:30] <Septima> will9455: launchpad.net i believe it is
[15:30] <will9455> thanks just got there
[15:31] <bobweaver> will9455,  looking up link . But I am uploading package so internet is slow
[15:31] <mrpink57> libpenguin: from what I understand you are doing is just wanting to update via a local folder in apt so this should help http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2009/04/adding-local-directory-to-apt.html
[15:31] <dakotawulfy> well try to step back kernel
[15:31] <bobweaver> will9455, https://launchpad.net/variety
[15:31] <Septima> variety is awesome
[15:31] <dakotawulfy>  TomyLobo  might be the only problem when they come out with news one sometime thing are broke
[15:32] <libpenguin> mrpink57: i am not updating but installing apps from locally saved copied so i want to add their destination as source to install them from local storage
[15:32] <bobweaver> will9455,  there is youtube videos of it out there also if you want to watch them first .
[15:32] <mrpink57> libpenguin: so you have locally saved .deb files then i assume
[15:32] <libpenguin> mrpink57: yes...
[15:32] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  are you building these packages ?
[15:33] <dakotawulfy>  TomyLobo
[15:33] <dakotawulfy>  u there
[15:33] <dakotawulfy>  see if that works
[15:33] <libpenguin> bobweaver: noo..
[15:33] <dakotawulfy> then u know
[15:33] <dakotawulfy>  if that the problem
[15:33] <mrpink57> libpenguin: if you have debs then just install them through gdebi that would be easiests
[15:33] <Pancake_Warrior> Hello, I'm having an issue with an Ubuntu Live CD. Would anyone be able to help?
[15:33] <Septima> ask Pancake_Warrior
[15:33] <libpenguin> mrpink57: throw some light on gdebi
[15:34] <ShawnRisk> anyone can help me?
[15:34] <libpenguin> !gedebi -info > libpenguin
[15:34] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  ubuntu software center can install .debs
[15:34] <Septima> yeah, i just drop debs into the software center
[15:34] <dakotawulfy>  ShawnRisk  with what ???
[15:34] <libpenguin> bobweaver: but i dont have unlimited bandwidth so i save their local copies and install on other system
[15:34] <mrpink57> libpenguin: well I am a debian user truthfully I have not used ubuntu in a while but it basically grabs all deps for said package on install if it can in fact resolve them
[15:35] <bobweaver> libpenguin, you have a local server ?
[15:35] <Septima> the world is cruel; why can't we all have unlimited bandwidth!?
[15:35] <mrpink57> libpenguin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gdebi
[15:35] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: How come when I try to connect to a wireless connection, it says Wireless Connection disconnected?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using a router that is connected to the internet box.
[15:35] <Pancake_Warrior> Is it actually possible to install programs for a test run? Ive been trying to get Guitarix running and it's not working
[15:35] <will9455> Thanks that worked out very fast, now i can have all my naked girl pics flash across my desktop i love it
[15:35] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: yeah, the live cd kinda operates just like an install, until you reboot
[15:35] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  you can download all packages to a server on lan and then install from there. Kinda a pain to set that up though
[15:36] <libpenguin> mrpink57: i want to use debian....i have heard its very stable....as ubuntu is not as stable as should be
[15:36] <TomyLaptop> dakotawulfy, it works with the old kernel. -35 broke it
[15:36] <dakotawulfy> so u are not able to connect ???
[15:36] <TomyLaptop> that's the whole problem
[15:36] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: I am able to see the wireless network connection and sometimes this does connect, but right now I am on my mac and this works but not on ubuntu.
[15:36] <mrpink57> Pancake_Warrior: in a virtual environment would be best.
[15:36] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: sudo apt-get install guitarix
[15:36] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: right, I am not able to connect right now.
[15:36] <mrpink57> libpenguin: ubuntu is basically debian wheezy at this point.
[15:36] <bobweaver> lol
[15:37] <Pancake_Warrior> ahh, The readme file was saying to use the ./waf configure command and it wasnt working...
[15:37] <mrpink57> libpenguin: which is what i currently use on my desktop and netbook
[15:37] <dakotawulfy> so does not log on
[15:37] <libpenguin> bobweaver: what i do is whatever packages i need....i downloas then to local storage and then install them by dpkg but thing is everytime i have to give the destination address so i just wanted to add the local address as source
[15:37] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  use what you want to that is the point of linux. But you might like to tlk about all that on debians server for irc
[15:37] <dakotawulfy>  so see them
[15:37] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  just make a local apt repo
[15:37] <mrpink57> I do not think stability is a big issue in ubuntu, I have never heard of anyone really getting a cocked up system unless the user has done it.
[15:38] <bobweaver> !localapt
[15:38] <libpenguin> bobweaver: how to to do so ?
[15:38] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRisk  but does not log on
[15:38] <dakotawulfy> ok did u do update
[15:38] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: does it install waf?
[15:38] <mrpink57> unlike the big Arch disaster a few months back
[15:38] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: it does log onto the network sometimes but a the moment it is not.  How can I do an update if I can't connect?
[15:38] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  it is kinda a pain but you can use dpkg-scanpacakgaes to look in certian dirs . there is a wiki liet me find it
[15:38] <mrpink57> libpenguin: /join #debian
[15:39] <SolarisB1y> mrpink57: boy that was a disaster
[15:39] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRisk did it work before or always been that way
[15:39] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: it works on and off, but right now it is not working.  I am on my mac connected so there shouldn't be a problem.
[15:39] <mrpink57> SolarisB1y: God was it ever, I updated and my mouth just dropped after reboot
[15:39] <bobweaver> libpenguin,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[15:39] <dakotawulfy> well u did not do an update with kernel on ubuntu ??
[15:40] <libpenguin> ok
[15:40] <dakotawulfy>  some time they break things
[15:40] <chris___> hello i have an issue, i have UBUNTU 12.10 and amd asus graphics card. Ubuntu for a reason uses vesa:107  driver  although i have amd drivers installed what could be the problem?
[15:40] <Ubuntubruger7> hi, i have a problem with connection to my user share on my NAS, can anyone assist with this ?
[15:40] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: I haven't done a kernel update since this latest problem happened.
[15:40] <SolarisB1y> mrpink57: i knew atleast 10 (coworkers, who did the same.. on work computers).. kinda lol && sad at the same time - right ubuntu never had that issue
[15:40] <Pancake_Warrior> It looks like it's installed. but it's saying there was an error. "the program intl tool merge (intltool, gettext-devel) is mandatory!"
[15:40] <libpenguin> bobweaver: mrpink57 ubuntu is better or debian ?
[15:40] <elena-IK> how can I prevent the luks password prompt from being flooded with kernel messages?
[15:40] <dakotawulfy> i all way try that first
[15:40] <bobweaver> !better | libpenguin
[15:41] <mrpink57> SolarisB1y: Arch on work computers?!  Awesome.
[15:41] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: try which?
[15:41] <SolarisB1y> mrpink57: lols yea - i felt the same
[15:41] <mrpink57> libpenguin: truth?  yes.
[15:42] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: I am using 3.2.0-35-generic when I did uname -r to check kernel version
[15:42] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: may need to apt-get install those packages as well
[15:42] <mrpink57> libpenguin: this is not a server to discuss this and I am now under watchful eyes.  So just try it in a virtual desktop and see what you think.
[15:42] <rocky> How to turn on a feature where login screen comes to the point Ubuntu 12.10 is loaded, in other words when i start laptop, the laptop waits for user login credentials then the user enters and then Ubuntu loads, i'm looking to allow Ubuntu to load and open login screen as if screen is locked
[15:43] <Pancake_Warrior> okay, how would I do that?
[15:43] <bobweaver> rocky, I dont think that you can do that with out doing something crazy to lightdm
[15:43] <rocky> bobweaver, i know i have done that in past it should be just an option to turn it on
[15:44] <rocky> bobweaver, it should be an easy one
[15:44] <joey8> rocky→ this doesnt feel right - are you trying to steel passwords???
[15:44] <bobweaver> rocky, unity-greater would also need to be altered ?
[15:44] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRiskwell i got some wireless that would see the connections but would not log on
[15:44] <rocky> joey8, nothing like that
[15:44] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: try: sudo apt-get install intltool gettext
[15:44] <rocky> bobweaver, ok
[15:44] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: meaning?
[15:45] <dakotawulfy> ok
[15:45] <dakotawulfy>  the password stuff did not work
[15:45] <Pancake_Warrior> alright, that looks like its working
[15:45] <dakotawulfy>  on the way it handled it
[15:45] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: what should I do?
[15:46] <chris___> hello i have an issue, i have UBUNTU 12.10 and amd asus graphics card. Ubuntu for a reason uses vesa:107  driver  although i have amd drivers installed what could be the problem?
[15:46] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRiskso  try an firmware update
[15:46] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[15:47] <dakotawulfy>  ShawnRisk or look for wireless driver and see if u can find one for yours
[15:47] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRisk it kinda works but not all the way right
[15:47] <dakotawulfy> ShawnRisk  that what i found on mine
[15:48] <Septima> chris___: i had a lot of headache out of that myself, then i just used the drivers from here: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages and they just work
[15:49] <WeThePeople> how do i add a feed in tickr, it says format error, when there isnt
[15:50] <Septima> WeThePeople: tickr is an rss reader? maybe the format error is on the page, not in the ur
[15:50] <Pancake_Warrior> okay I installed the packages and tried ./waf configure and now it says "Error: could not configure a cxx compiler"
[15:50] <Septima> Pancake_Warrior: try: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:51] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: okay I don't have time at the moment.  I am going to try another computer and see if this work and if not I know it is not the computer.
[15:51] <dakotawulfy> ok
[15:51] <dakotawulfy>  if u need help let me know
[15:51] <ShawnRisk> dakotawulfy: the one problem I see is how come, it says Wireless Network disconnect and not the network it is trying to connect to?
[15:52] <dakotawulfy> tyr to help
[15:52] <dakotawulfy> well on mine
[15:52] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[15:52] <dakotawulfy>  i had the problem it saw them but tdid not connect
[15:52] <melkor> wow, installing xfce sucked. Killed my internet when I went back to gnome.
[15:53] <bobweaver> pshh
[15:54] <Septima> :O Tony Stark is here
[15:55] <Tony_Stark> lol
[15:55] <Septima> Tony, tell us the truth... what distro does your suit run?
[15:55] <Tony_Stark> Septima: Ubuntu, of course!
[15:55] <TomyLaptop> strangeness: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic/include/linux/version.h contains #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 197154
[15:55] <Septima> :D
[15:55] <Tony_Stark> :-)
[15:56] <TomyLaptop> which is KERNEL_VERSION(3,2,34)
[15:56] <TomyLaptop> instead of 35
[15:56] <TMinus36> Vjarjadian: Looks like you found your issue?
[15:58] <TomyLaptop> ok strangeness resolved: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic/include/linux/version.h contains #define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 197150, which is 3.2.30
[15:59] <dakotawulfy> TomyLaptop u get it then ???
[15:59] <TomyLaptop> no
[15:59] <Tex_Nick> Eagleman : if you don't get an answer here you might try #httpd
[15:59] <smacktalk> I'm having a hard time getting remina to resize the remote desktop to my laptop screen..
[16:00] <smacktalk> is that really the best rdp client for ubuntu?
[16:00] <TomyLaptop> for some reason, both the check for >= 2.6 and the one for < 2.6 fail
[16:02] <bobweaver> smacktalk,  you have tried to look up packages say " apt-cache search rdp|grep client"
[16:04] <TomyLaptop> ARGHHHHH
[16:05] <TomyLaptop> i found out what's wrong
[16:05] <dakotawulfy> TomyLaptop what
[16:05] <TomyLaptop> this thing requires gcc to build
[16:05] <TomyLaptop> i set my compiler to clang
[16:05] <TomyLaptop> HNNNNG
[16:05] <dakotawulfy> did u check out that jockey stuff
[16:05] <dakotawulfy>  tell u do it all for u
[16:06] <dakotawulfy>  u need to install the nvida common
[16:06] <TomyLaptop> dakotawulfy, sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about
[16:06] <dakotawulfy> TomyLaptop and then see if it picks it up for u
[16:06] <TomyLaptop> i'm in a good mood now so i'll try to tell you
[16:06] <TomyLaptop> you know what gcc is?
[16:07] <dakotawulfy> ok sorry was trying to help u
[16:07] <dakotawulfy> yes
[16:07] <TomyLaptop> do you know what clang is?
[16:07] <dakotawulfy> yes
[16:07] <TomyLaptop> they're not quite compatible
[16:07] <TomyLaptop> option-wise
[16:07] <dakotawulfy> never mind sorry i can help u
[16:08] <TomyLaptop> i had used update-alternatives to set clang as my default compiler
[16:08] <TomyLaptop> the conftest script of the nvidia-current module used some strange options clang doesn't understand
[16:08] <smacktalk> thanks bobweaver
[16:10] <brandomota> hi, sorry, my english is poor,but someone know a emulator of nitendo 64, witchout be mupen? thanks.
[16:12] <TomyLaptop> brandomota,  you're looking for an n64 emulator which is not mupen?
[16:12] <TomyLaptop> http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/n64/
[16:12] <brandomota> yes, tomylaptop,thanks
[16:12] <stoddart> hi
[16:12] <TomyLaptop> hmm only lists mupen for linux
[16:12] <bobweaver> there is also playdeb
[16:13] <ineb> alternatevly wine with project64
[16:13] <bobweaver> I think that that is all that there is ?
[16:13] <ineb> runs fine though
[16:13] <brandomota> playdeb is off,not connected in browser and repository
[16:14] <bobweaver> brandomota,  ?
[16:15] <banda> which version of java should i install for java development on ubuntu?
[16:15] <bobweaver> banda,  anyone you want you can change version on the fly
[16:16] <bobweaver> banda,  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:16] <bobweaver> to pick version
[16:16] <brandomota> i g test the project 64 in wine
[16:16] <brandomota> i go test the project 64 in wine
[16:17] <brandomota> botweaver, try
[16:17] <bobweaver> brandomota,  try what ? playdeb ?
[16:19] <brandomota> yes,i not get conected here
[16:19] <banda> bobweaver, thanks
[16:19] <bobweaver> brandomota,  huh me either maybe servers down I will try LP
[16:20] <bobweaver> banda,  np happy holidays
[16:27] <brandomota> bobweaver, maybe.... expected return is the same way ...
[16:31] <djzn> anyone here knows how to make mouse pointer bigger in unity?
[16:36] <gmachine_24> If I am shredding contents of a folder, is there a way to use $shred and delete everything in the folder plus the folder with one command?
[16:36] <gmachine_24> On a command line.
[16:37] <DiscoJesus> Does anyone have some advice about secure boot issues?  I recently bought a new laptop and am dying to remove Windoze 8 and install 12.04...
[16:38] <Tex_Nick> Djzn : see if this helps ... http://handytutorial.com/change-cursor-theme-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[16:38] <mrhyde> sup guise
[16:38] <DJones> !uefi | DiscoJesus Something I've not had to do yet, but this link may help,
[16:39] <djzn> Tex_Nick, Yes, I have been through that... but the cursor remains 24px whereas in some applications like firefox and corner of windows or links, it is 48px
[16:39] <bobweaver> !info srm | gmachine_24,
[16:39] <bobweaver> err
[16:39] <bobweaver> !info  secure-delete | gmachine_24
[16:40] <gmachine_24> bobweaver, thanks. I used secure-delete for a long time. not sure why I switched.
[16:40] <bobweaver> gmachine_24,  I dont know way the bot wont pick it up as a alaias
[16:40] <DiscoJesus> Awesome, thanks!  I was actually at that page earlier today and was trying desperately to find it again...
[16:40] <bobweaver> srm *
[16:41] <stigmata> script to create database ?
[16:41] <bobweaver> DONT DO THAT
[16:41] <mrhyde> YOU'LL DIE
[16:42] <gmachine_24> bobweaver, mrhyde, what are you guys talking about
[16:43] <jrib> erm
[16:43] <bobweaver> gmachine_24,  well I said I dont know way the bot wont pick it up as a alaias   I was talking about !info  srm   but I typed srm *  Like  MORON
[16:43] <bobweaver> Like A MORON *
[16:43] <gmachine_24> it's ok. thanks again.
[16:44] <bobweaver> gmachine_24,  I just did not want any one to type that into there computer that would be bad. Stupid duble un-taundras
[16:44] <DaemonicApathy> *entendres
[16:44] <bobweaver> Double Entendre *
[16:45] <wyclif> hi again all!
[16:45] <elena-IK> how can I prevent the luks password prompt from being flooded with kernel messages?
[16:46] <wdp_> elena-IK, i'm not sure if it helps, but you can disable the kernel messages/reduce the loglevel, which might help.
[16:46] <Lope> how can i search for files on my computer in a fast way where the drive gets cached, so it doesn't take 3 minutes to finish the search?
[16:47] <bekks> !locate | Lope
[16:47] <Lope> but I've just tried locate / myfile
[16:47] <Lope> but it still takes ages
[16:47] <Lope> (twice)
[16:47] <elena-IK> wdp_: I know how to do that, when the system is running (dmesg -n 1), but i have no idea how to do that before the root filesystem is mounted.
[16:47] <bekks> Lope: Then update your cache.
[16:47] <wdp_> elena-IK, it's loglevel=X where X is a number from 0 to 7 with 7 beeing debug and 0 is like nothing (KERN EMERG)
[16:48] <wdp_> elena-IK, at the bootloader obviously.
[16:48] <Lope> bekks: please tell me how? I've googled this a lot and couldn't find anything
[16:48] <bobweaver> Lope,  do you know how to use find ?
[16:48] <elena-IK> wdp_: I'll try, thanks
[16:48] <Lope> find / myfile?
[16:48] <Lope> I'm not familiar with how exactly to do wildcards etc.
[16:48] <bobweaver> Lope,  that would search everything from / down
[16:48] <Lope> exactly
[16:48] <bobweaver> Lope,  that might take a while
[16:49] <Lope> I've noticed
[16:49] <Lope> I'm asking if theres a search tool that indexes the directory structure and file lists inside a DB.
[16:49] <wdp_> elena-IK, let me know if it worked :)
[16:49] <Lope> if I knew where the file was I wouldn
[16:50] <Lope> 't be searching from root down...
[16:50] <bobweaver> Lope,  you can set dir that you want to look for and type of thing that it is say a file named foo.bar that I know nis in my home dir         find /home/bobweaver/ -type f -name 'foo.bar'       that might be quicker
[16:50] <hari_> i have installed secure-delete but am not able to launch?
[16:50] <DiscoJesus> I've disabled Secure Boot and Fast Boot, but I'm still unable to get my computer to boot from USB or CD versions of ubuntu 12.04... any ideas?
[16:50] <hari_> installed via synaptic manager
[16:50] <bobweaver> hari_,  you have looked at the man pages ?
[16:51] <bobweaver> hari_,  like man srm
[16:51] <DiscoJesus> I'm starting to think I have no option other than using legacy as opposed to UEFI...
[16:51] <bobweaver> hari_,  be *careful* with srm
[16:52] <Lope> bobweaver: thanks for the tips on syntax, but really if I knew where the file was I wouldn't be searching for it. I've already searched ~
[16:52] <hari_> thank u sir
[16:52] <Axio> Hi my computer crashes when I make the cpu work to the max. There is trace back, I have seen on the screen when it crashes. The problem is that I have messed with the installation and the logs are not rotated anymore, thus I can't get the previous log. Any idea how to restore the log rotation?
[16:52] <hari_> will pl let me what are the implications in secure-delete and srm
[16:53] <saik> how to make my apache server live on internet?
[16:53] <saik> tired to google for this no satisfied answer found
[16:53] <saik> anyone here know ho to make apache live on internet
[16:56] <elena-IK> wdp_: worked. thank you!
[16:56] <wdp_> elena-IK, you're welcome.
[16:56] <saik> anyone here know ho to make apache live on internet
[16:57] <bekks> !apache | saik
[16:57] <SolarisB1y> saik: put it on an IP accessible to the internet or forward ports to the internal ip:port
[16:58] <xeocs> hello! i wunder how can i add a ppa source in server edition?
[16:58] <saik> SolarisBoy: should it work without lamp?
[16:59] <bobweaver> xeocs,  what are you trying to do add a ppa to system or copy the ppa to your system ?
[16:59] <bobweaver> like clone it ?
[16:59] <bekks> saik: Apache is just a port of "LAMP".
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> saik: ?? lamp == linux apache mysql php (script language of choice) in general - you need to have apache or whatever webserver you use either listening on an ip/port publicly available, OR enable rules on your router/firewall to foward traffic from the public ip:port (you define) to the internal webserver ip:port ()
[16:59] <xeocs> add
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> saik: lamp guides will assist you with setting up your server etc.
[17:00] <xeocs> i want to use cinnamo desktop edition
[17:00] <bobweaver> on server ?
[17:00] <bobweaver> ok
[17:00] <xeocs> i an useing it on my computer..
[17:00] <bobweaver> xeocs,  what is Ubuntu  version ?
[17:00] <xeocs> :)
[17:00] <xeocs> 12.10 32bit
[17:00] <xeocs> thx
[17:01] <bobweaver> !info add-apt-repository | xeocs,
[17:01] <bobweaver> er
[17:01] <bobweaver> xeocs,  sudo add-apt-repository <name of ppa>
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[17:01] <xeocs> ok, trying!
[17:01] <bobweaver> then just update and install package xeocs
[17:01] <xeocs> thx alot!
[17:02] <bobweaver> np xeocs  ppa-purge to remove if you do not like it. and happy holidays
[17:03] <loen> xeocs: http://www.tecmint.com/install-cinnamon-1-6-desktop-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/
[17:04] <stigmata> how to run phpmyadminon mozilla?
[17:05] <xeocs> boweaver: it shows command not found
[17:05] <xeocs> :(
[17:05] <saimazoon> 我终于能安装ibus了
[17:05] <banda> i'm installing eclipse and openjdk-7-jdk and 7-jre. Yet what I ( sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk eclipse openjdk-7-jre ) openjdk-6-jdk and jre are also being installed?
[17:05] <bobweaver> xeocs, is there a tutorial that you are reading ?
[17:06] <xeocs> only 12.04 version -.-
[17:07] <loen> xeocs: have a look at the link i just post
[17:07] <xeocs> thx
[17:08] <Axio> Hi, can anyone tell me what should be the permissions for /var/log ?
[17:09] <rdw200169> Axio: root:nobody I would suspect, or root:admins something like that
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4.0K Dec 22 08:00 /var/log | from 2 boxes 12.04
[17:10] <banda> should i just install openjdk/jre 6 and eclipse?
[17:10] <bobweaver> banda,  maybe let apt take care of that for you ?
[17:11] <Axio> SolarisBoy: thanks, what is the command you used so I can compare?
[17:11] <banda> bobWeaver openjava6 is installed as a dependancy to eclipse
[17:11] <banda> and what i really want is 7
[17:12] <banda> so apt is getting in my way
[17:12] <SolarisBoy> Axio: ls -ltrhd /var/log
[17:13] <SolarisBoy> you can just do ls -ld /var/log
[17:13] <Axio> rdw200169: SolarisBoy: Here is what I get: drwxrwxrwt 8 root root 420 déc.  22 17:46 /var/log
[17:14] <Axio> Did I mess something?
[17:14] <SolarisBoy> Axio: seems that the go+w in your case...
[17:14] <Axio> SolarisBoy: mh I don't understand
[17:14] <bobweaver> banda,  I amnot much of a java dude more qt/aml/c++/python sorry. But what are you trying to do?
[17:15] <SolarisBoy> Axio: the group and other bits are assigned writable permissions in your case
[17:15] <Axio> SolarisBoy: Can it cause problems (such as logs not rotating)? Any magical command to revert back to normal?
[17:16] <SolarisBoy> Axio: possibly not really sure - depends on whats logging, are you  having a specific issue other than the perms being different?
[17:17] <Axio> SolarisBoy: Not really, my issue is that logs aren't rotating. I know that I messed with my installation, but I don't remember how
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> Axio: are you using the standard logrotate package?
[17:18] <Axio> "logrotate", syslogd are on the computer
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> Axio: logrotate should have some options for running in debug/verbose mode
[17:19] <Axio> SolarisBoy: How do I check that? What should I do?
[17:19] <invariant> Why doesn't mkfs.vfat /dev/sde1 delete all data from the device?
[17:20] <bekks> invariant: Did you unmount /dev/sde1 before?
[17:20] <dr_willis> invariant:  you did make it into a vfat partion befor?
[17:20] <invariant> bekks, yes
[17:20] <invariant> dr_willis, yes
[17:21] <dr_willis> kernel could be using the old data/info.
[17:21] <bekks> dr_willis: The psrtition type is irrelevant, actually.
[17:21] <dr_willis> ive had systems get confused ages back when mixxing up filesstem types :)
[17:21] <invariant> I was expecting mkfs.vfat to create an empty file system.
[17:21] <bekks> dr_willis: filesystem types and partition types are independent from each other.
[17:22] <SolarisBoy> Axio: first you can try to "ls -1 /etc/logrotate.d" then you can pick a log that you can confirm is having the "not rotating" issue, like dpkg for instance (if thats the case for you), then you run the command like "sudo logrotate -v -d /etc/logrotate.d/dpkg" and inspect the output for errors - i guess in your case you would be looking for permission related errors
[17:22] <invariant> bekks, aren't there just primary and logical partitions?
[17:22] <dr_willis> bekks:  makes me wonder why you even set the type then in fdisk ;)
[17:23] <bekks> invariant: There are partition types and partition labels.
[17:23] <bigbangbilly> I am having trouble with google chrome and casper-rw
[17:23] <invariant> dr_willis, the type just maps to a magic number.
[17:23] <Axio> SolarisBoy: the logs I want aren't on the list, maybe that's the problem!
[17:23] <bekks> dr_willis: Thats an ancient relict.
[17:23] <invariant> dr_willis, otherwise it would be impossible to create new file systems.
[17:23] <Axio> SolarisBoy: Are kernel.log, dmesg supposed to be on that list?
[17:23] <bigbangbilly> Tell me when you are ready
[17:23] <bekks> invariant: Which is not true.:)
[17:24] <invariant> bekks, what is not true?
[17:24] <bekks> invariant: You can create whatever filesystem o whatever partition type.
[17:24] <bekks> *on
[17:24] <invariant> bekks, yes, I was logically deducing that that what dr_willis said was wrong.
[17:24] <bekks> invariant: Which has nothing to do with magic numbers ;)
[17:24] <invariant> bekks, it's a valid method of proof accepted by mathematicians around the globe.
[17:25] <bekks> invariant: It is accepted when there are no logical errors in the deduction ;)
[17:25] <invariant> bekks, where is the partition type storted then?
[17:25] <invariant> bekks, stored
[17:25] <invariant> bekks, anyway, can you first answer why it doesn't delete all the data?
[17:26] <bekks> invariant: Itdoesnt matter for the problem at all where that information is stored. The filesystem created on a partition is independent from the partition type you definedin fdisk
[17:26] <invariant> bekks, fdisk must obtain the information from somewhere.
[17:26] <invariant> bekks, is it part of the file system what it returns?
[17:27] <bekks> invariant: Which is irrelevant, since fdisk isnt used for evaluation the content of a filesystem.
[17:27] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[17:27] <invariant> bekks, you are very annoying to talk to.
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> Axio: actually for dmesg log it seems you can check the upstart configuration for dmesg /etc/init/dmesg.conf
[17:27] <invariant> bekks, it would be helpful if your sentences would contain any information.
[17:28] <bekks> invariant: I'm sorry when information you asked for isnt the information you wanted to get.
[17:28] <escott> invariant, bekks is saying that the information obtained from fdisk is not guaranteed to be correct
[17:28] <SolarisBoy> Axio: it uses a utility called savelog on startup to copy/compress the log file you - should check that "savelog" is somewhere in that file (atleast on my system it does, which has those bits set to default)
[17:28] <invariant> bekks, I asked why that command didn't delete the data.
[17:28] <escott> invariant, you should use something like parted which is smart enough to check the actual partition contents
[17:28] <invariant> bekks, you have completely ignored that question.
[17:28] <invariant> bekks, also, I don't like smartasses who aren't.
[17:29] <invariant> escott, unfortunately, that was also not what I asked.
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> Axio: and kernel.log i dont believe exists on a default install but kern.log does - and it's handled by the rsyslog rule - if for some reason your system generates kernel.log - you should adjust that rule accordingly
[17:29] <bekks> invariant: Well. Then feel free to ask someone else for help, I'm not wasting my time with people calling names on me. Ignore set.
[17:29] <escott> invariant, i just signed on, and see you being rude to bekks so i'm trying to defuse the situation
[17:29] <invariant> escott, defuse?
[17:29] <Axio> SolarisBoy: little mistake I am talking about kern.log
[17:30] <invariant> escott, bekks just has social issues.
[17:30] <invariant> He should see a doctor.
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> Axio: so for dmesg log check /etc/init/dmesg.conf for the string "savelog" - and for kern.log check the rule file /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog
[17:30] <Axio> SolarisBoy: thanks
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> Axio: yw
[17:30] <invariant> escott, and bekks was the one who was rude first.
[17:30] <invariant> escott, please try to keep up with the conversation.
[17:30] <invariant> escott, or... don't interfere.
[17:31] <invariant> Next time, I would like to hear "We are all ignorant and we don't know the answer." That would have been more helpful.
[17:32] <bigbangbilly> http://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/1592gx/i_am_having_problems_with_casperrw_and_google/.
[17:33] <bigbangbilly> this link should provide you discription of the problem I am currently experiencing
[17:33] <invariant> It looks like that the accepted answer on Stackoverflow for this problem is also completely wrong.
[17:33] <invariant> Kind of sad that they don't even know when the answer is right.
[17:34] <bigbangbilly> So would I even get a turn to get my questions answered?
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: not sure but casper-rw is searched during bootup
[17:35] <ryant> hi
[17:35] <Vjarjadian> bigbangbilly, were not paid to be here...
[17:35] <bigbangbilly> so what about google chrome
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: it's utilized witht he persistence boot option and allows you to write to a file from live media - bigbangbilly is it there on that partition?
[17:35] <Vjarjadian> if someone knows the answer, when they see it they may be able to answer
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: not sure if they are related - but in regards to casper-rw ^
[17:36] <escott> bigbangbilly, your question statement doesn't make much sense. what are you trying to do
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> +1
[17:36] <bigbangbilly> Right now the reddit post and stack overflow post is burried
[17:36] <bigbangbilly> I am trying to access google crome and I got a long error message when i tried opening it with terminal
[17:36] <bigbangbilly> I typed google-chrome to try to open it
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> heh
[17:36] <john> join
[17:37] <jrib> a/whois invariant
[17:37] <escott> bigbangbilly, but what does that have to do with casper-rw
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: 1) your bound to see a lot of errors starting gui apps from the terminal they are all not fatal - does chrome work?
[17:37] <john> can anyone tell me can i install nimbuzz on ubuntu??
[17:37] <bigbangbilly> So may I send you the error message?
[17:37] <dr_willis> !info nimbuzz
[17:37] <bigbangbilly> I got from chrome?
[17:38] <jrib> john: what is nimbuzz?
[17:38] <dr_willis> bigbangbilly:  pastebin it would be the normal practice.
[17:38] <dr_willis> !pastebin
[17:38] <john> jrib:its a messenger
[17:38] <bigbangbilly> thanks
[17:38] <john> how i can get it frm crome??
[17:38] <bigbangbilly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1457494/
[17:39] <bigbangbilly> this is the error message I got from chrome
[17:39] <dr_willis> john:  so its a chrome plugin? or what exactly?
[17:39] <bigbangbilly> chrome itself
[17:39] <DJones> john: This may help http://askubuntu.com/questions/149082/how-to-install-and-use-nimbuzz
[17:39] <bigbangbilly> from the terminal
[17:39] <john> djones:thanks
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> well actually it says the file exists while it's trying to create a SingletonLock
[17:40] <bigbangbilly> dr_willis: so are you working on it?
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> 'This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes'... -> so just for starters your not running multiple browser instances with conflicting settings bigbangbilly are you?
[17:41] <bigbangbilly> I don't know
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: you can man chrome - you can start with a temporary profile to resolve that most likely if it were a big issue
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> i dont see why it is though
[17:41] <bigbangbilly> but I pushed the power button when there was too many tabs
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> its live media...
[17:41] <bigbangbilly> how do I open it using a temeporary profile?
[17:41] <bigbangbilly> yes
[17:42] <SolarisBoy> man chrome command that you used or type --help on that command
[17:43] <huntersimoneau> can someone help with my ibook my Xubuntu usb is not booting when i boot from it it has flashing screen then goes back to boot selection on boot (ALT key) and when i boot 10.5 (os x) it says: this disk was not repairable by this computer?
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> --temp-profile maybe - you should confirm thats what it is for chromium-browser
[17:43] <braddcadd> my version of ubuntu is corrupt, can i install ubuntu from a CD/DVD and not loose my data/configurations?
[17:43] <bigbangbilly> same problem
[17:44] <bekks> braddcadd: Define "corrupt" please.
[17:44] <bigbangbilly> with chrome
[17:44] <dr_willis> braddcadd:  safest solution would to  be to use a live cd, backup  your imporntant data.
[17:44] <huntersimoneau> did someone see what i said?
[17:44] <dr_willis> braddcadd:  then try to repair
[17:44] <bigbangbilly> i even tried incognito
[17:44] <huntersimoneau> i am using usb
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: do this please - "ls -ltrh /home/this/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock" replacing "this" with the username your using
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: if the file exists mv it to /tmp and try again
[17:45] <braddcadd> broken packages so bad that apt-get freezes, restoring my sources.list file doesn't help either
[17:45] <huntersimoneau> can you help with my Xubuntu usb it wont boot and when i boot os x it says this disk was not repairable by this computer
[17:46] <compdoc> braddcadd, I think some config files will be over-written. Best to use a backup/restore program. By the way, files dont just become corrupt. you sure your hdd isnt having a problem? or other hardware problems?
[17:46] <bigbangbilly> most of the folders have a lock icon on it what does it mean?
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: that its owned by root
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> huntersimoneau  sounds like a hardware error to me
[17:46] <huntersimoneau> Solaris boy can you help me with my Xubuntu usb?
[17:46] <huntersimoneau> oh
[17:47] <braddcadd> it may be a hardware problem, i had it before and had to backup data and wipe the system, it seems to happen when i update to new kernels (i think)
[17:47] <bigbangbilly> I am still a noob in linux so how do I navigate the arrangement of folders?
[17:47] <braddcadd> it doesn;t just freeze on apt-get, it freezes randomly all the time, the hardrive (or something) "bumps" every fews seconds for about 10 mintes
[17:47] <braddcadd> works for 3 minutes, then freezes again the same way
[17:47] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: cd $HOME or cd ~ to get to *your* home directory
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: overall root probably shouldn't own any of your configuration files as you won't be able to read them and it will cause issues with your apps down the line
[17:48] <huntersimoneau> well it has a little picter of a charactor shows up on the usb disk on boot selection so i dont think the usb has to be repaired?
[17:48] <SolarisBoy> unless ofcourse your running *as root* which is super wrong - but then you shouldn't see locks on any folders
[17:49] <huntersimoneau> ok all i want to say is is there a link for making a usb Xubuntu usb for ppc not like unetbootin thats for intel to solaris boy
[17:49] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: when you get to your home you need to then check ls -ltrh .config/google-chrome/SingletonLock
[17:50] <bigbangbilly> What is the difference between home and home folder
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: not really sure what you mean
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> !ppc | huntersimoneau maybe this is useful to you
[17:50] <escott>  bigbangbilly, none
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: home and "home folder" are the same thing
[17:50] <bigbangbilly> the home foler's content is similar to the user folder for windows
[17:50] <Axio> SolarisBoy: I don't understand, I have compared with another computer where old dmesg is saved, the conf file is the same
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> yes bigbangbilly
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> Axio: i think you probably know best - you said you dont know what you changed =)
[17:51] <bigbangbilly> I am at templates and am I suposed to be there
[17:51] <bigbangbilly> and it is empty
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: nope not in Templates directory
[17:52] <dr_willis> just 'cd' by itself returns to your users home also i recall. ;)
[17:52] <bigbangbilly> I rememeber you said the location of it
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> the file that your posted link references is under the .config directory which is hidden you can hit CTRL+H to see hidden files in nautilus
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> dr_willis: true
[17:52] <bigbangbilly> I got bash: cd: google-chrome: No such file or directory when it typed cd google -chrome
[17:52] <Salman> Display problems, Lubuntu 12.10, LXDE, Some things aren't displaying correctly. screetshot of example: http://imgur.com/kGY2B
[17:53] <Salman> *screenshot of problem
[17:53] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: you don't need to cd into this directory
[17:53] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: ls -ltrh ~/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock
[17:54] <Salman> Anyone that can help with display problems?
[17:54] <bigbangbilly> -rw------- 0 this this 11K Dec 19 23:48 /home/this/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock
[17:54] <bigbangbilly> this is what I got
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: "mv /home/this/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock /tmp"
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> and try google chrome again please
[17:54] <Jonny1> Hi. How do I disable the pointer being highlighted when I press the control key?
[17:55] <Jonny1> I have googled without success
[17:55] <bigbangbilly> same message
[17:55] <dr_willis> Jonny1:  i think its a compiz setting, you can tweak via the CCSM tool.
[17:55] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[17:55] <bigbangbilly> wait
[17:55] <bigbangbilly> I am trying that comand
[17:55] <bigbangbilly> mv /home/this/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock /tmp
[17:56] <bigbangbilly> works so now what?
[17:56] <dr_willis> Jonny1:  there might be a setting for it in the 'accessability' settings area where you can set things for people that are vision impared and so forth.
[17:56] <bekks> Jonny1: System Settings -> Mouse and Touchpad -> Show position of pointer when the control key is pressed.
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: if you have complete the mv command then please try to open google-chrome again
[17:56] <rootcosty> hello, who can help me with an answer?
[17:57] <bobweaver> anyone know how to find out what mimitype a certian lens is running on ?
[17:57] <Jonny1> ask!
[17:57] <bigbangbilly> did that
[17:57] <Jonny1> !ask
[17:57] <bigbangbilly> And my crome works
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> bigbangbilly: so use it lol
[17:57] <bigbangbilly> thanks
[17:57] <SolarisBoy> np
[17:57] <Jonny1> bekks: Thanks very much. It was staring me in the face and I couldnt see it.
[17:57] <Jonny1> dr_willis: Thanks for your help too
[17:58] <rootcosty> I have backtrack 4, if I install it I will lose all my data from the HDD?
[17:58] <bobweaver> !backtrack
[17:58] <Jonny1> !ask @ rootcosty
[17:58] <Jonny1> !ask > rootcosty
[17:58] <bobweaver> Jonny1,  use the pipe
[17:59] <bobweaver> !bot | Jonny1
[17:59] <Jonny1> !ask | rootcosty
[17:59] <bigbangbilly> Thanks
[17:59] <Jonny1> bobweaver: Thanks. I always forget that as I use it so infrequently
[18:00] <bobweaver> Jonny1,  you can always /msg the bot also to talk in private and make sure command or whatever is good. Though I should listen to myself on that one also
[18:01] <bobweaver> Jonny1,  example:  /msg ubottu !bug 1
[18:01] <SolarisBoy> lol
[18:02] <BoomerBile> haha
[18:02] <BoomerBile> does that apply to user share too?
[18:03] <dr_willis> Jonny1:  the  'hud' search feature might show the settings also.. havent tried it recently. they are getting thing set where you just tap alt and for example enter 'keyboard' and it would show the keyboard settings panels. (or at least eventually it will work that way)
[18:04] <Tex_Nick> 4ghbn k-=+
[18:05] <BoomerBile> anyone know how to get rid of ☯ New Activity on the desktop?
[18:09] <s5fs> Why am I being prompted for root's password when patching? Not sudo, but root proper. 12.04.
[18:09] <s5fs> I've had this issue with wifi occasionally too, where the system wants root's pwd rather than sudo.
[18:09] <BoomerBile> same
[18:09] <bekks> !root | s5fs
[18:09] <s5fs> bekks: that's a worthless statement
[18:10] <BoomerBile> indeed
[18:10] <bekks> s5fs: If you think so - good luck,.
[18:10] <BoomerBile> it insists on roots password
[18:10] <bobweaver> s5fs,  no it is not. But what do you mean patching
[18:10] <BoomerBile> i always set a root password so i'm usually fine
[18:10] <s5fs> bobweaver: update manager
[18:10] <bekks> There is NO root password on a stock Ubuntu installation.
[18:10] <s5fs> bekks: understood, but the system is asking for root's credentials, not my own.
[18:10] <bekks> s5fs: root has no credentials on an ubuntu installation
[18:11] <bobweaver> s5fs,  sudo user password ? I am confused
[18:11] <tomreyn> bekks: that's perfectly clear, i think. nevertheless his system is prompting him for it.
[18:11] <s5fs> bobweaver: about a month ago when I'd apply patches or dork with my wifi settings, I would be prompted to elevate perms and was able to provide my password (via sudo) and satisfy the requirement.
[18:12] <BoomerBile> what he's saying is that it's stupid to have update manager, and some other program i've even run into myself, ask for roots password when there is never going to be one unless the user sets it himself, which in ubuntu i believe is discouraged
[18:12] <bobweaver> I *think* that update manager uses system-installer No ?  why would htat ever ask for root ?  I have no clue
[18:12] <s5fs> bobweaver: however, since then I've been prompted occasionaly for root's password, not sudo. hence my confusion.
[18:12] <bobweaver> s5fs,  what does upgrade manager have to do with wifi ?
[18:12] <s5fs> bobweaver: nothing, only that it too is now prompting for root
[18:13] <bobweaver> s5fs,  that is weired I am also confused buy that
[18:13] <BoomerBile> yeah
[18:13] <BoomerBile> it should be fixed
[18:13] <tomreyn> s5fs: i guess you should file a bug on this.
[18:13] <s5fs> I generally patch via cli, but today the update manager popped up and when I approved, it asked for root.
[18:13] <bobweaver>  screenshot s5fs
[18:13] <bobweaver> ?
[18:13] <BoomerBile> i always just set a root password, i rarely use sudo
[18:13] <s5fs> bobweaver: i'll snag one next time around, it's oddly inconsistent
[18:14] <bobweaver> session-installer *
[18:14] <s5fs> bobweaver: the wifi stuff is most frustrating because when it doesn't work, it requires a full restart. kicking over services does nothing.
[18:14] <bobweaver> or what ever it is called
[18:14] <s5fs> i'll brb, rebooting
[18:16] <[snake]> can I tell my 16:9 monitor to display a 4:3 resolution centered instead of stretched? I checked in the nvidia setting but couldn't find anything like this...
[18:18] <BoomerBile> [snake], yes you can
[18:18] <BoomerBile> you can place it however you want
[18:19] <BoomerBile> nvidia-settings however will not do this for you
[18:19] <[snake]> oh well how do I do it then?
[18:19] <s5fs> tomreyn: yeah, I will file a bug, thanks. just wanted to know if anyone else had seen the issue before.
[18:19] <Knuckle> hello all, I installed some updates a day or two ago, and since then my nvidia drivers have been broken
[18:19] <BoomerBile> s5fs, i have many times
[18:20] <[snake]> Knuckle, try the nvidia version-current-update they're my favorite :3
[18:20] <Knuckle> [snake]: I had those
[18:20] <Knuckle> they broke
[18:20] <Knuckle> I tried installing nvidia-current in favour of them (since the version number was higher)
[18:20] <Knuckle> no luck
[18:20] <[snake]> BoomerBile, how do I set my monitor like that then?
[18:21] <BoomerBile> hold tight, getting you the page and an example
[18:21] <[snake]> ok :)
[18:21] <BoomerBile> http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=106650.0
[18:21] <BoomerBile> i used that page, and i'm doing scaling manually because my 1920x1080 hdtv that i am using as a second monitor overscans the screen
[18:22] <[snake]> Knuckle, im sorry :( nvidia is kind of terrible with drivers lately
[18:22] <BoomerBile> so i have to shrink 1920x1080 into something smaller
[18:22] <Knuckle> [snake]: looking at my apt logs I see that I updated the kernel
[18:23] <Knuckle> that might be the cause
[18:23] <BoomerBile> i believe if you update the kernel you also have to update the drivers
[18:23] <BoomerBile> drivers have to be build for most kernel changes
[18:23] <BoomerBile> s/build/built
[18:23] <DaemeonZane> hey, what's the command to remove all the unneeded crap from my ubuntu box? outdated packages, kernel headers, and the like
[18:23] <BoomerBile> apt-get autoclean?
[18:23] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: how would I figure out what kernel certain driver versions were built for?
[18:24] <[snake]> I think it's autoremove
[18:24] <tomreyn> DaemeonZane: orphaner, deborphan
[18:24] <BoomerBile> not sure Knuckle i only use ubuntu on my laptop, and it uses intel... i run gentoo
[18:24] <DaemeonZane> tomreyn: What is the difference between those two commands?
[18:25] <OerHeks> autoclean autoremove
[18:25] <BoomerBile> http://pastebin.ca/2295878 <-- [snake] you see that link i posted a bit ago? here's another link, that's my xorg.conf you can see my example there if you need more help i can walk you through how to discover your settings
[18:26] <tomreyn> DaemeonZane: orphaner is a GUI for deborphaner
[18:26] <DaemeonZane> 0erHeks: Thank you.
[18:26] <[snake]> BoomerBile, yes I got your last link also, I am reading them :)
[18:26] <tomreyn> you may also want to: apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate
[18:26] <DaemeonZane> tomreyn: And the purpose of deborphaner would be to remove orphaned or outdated files?
[18:27] <tomreyn> and dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs echo
[18:27] <[snake]> BoomerBile, so will I have to write all of my settings? or just the non-stretching part?
[18:27] <BoomerBile> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/302.17/README/xconfigoptions.html <-- here's the nvidia instructions [snake] probably better reading
[18:27] <tomreyn> DaemeonZane: orphaned or outdated packages
[18:28] <BoomerBile> [snake], you can let nvidia-settings write most of your xorg.conf and then add what you need to
[18:28] <DaemeonZane> Danke. You have been most helpful
[18:28] <BoomerBile> [snake], in gentoo we use nvidia-xconfig, you can get a list of options from nvidia-xconfig -A, or you can nvidia-xconfig  and then look over what it makes
[18:29] <BoomerBile> or just use nvidia-settings
[18:29] <BoomerBile> and add what you need to.
[18:29] <[snake]> BoomerBile, I had gentoo once, but it took so much time to do everything, so now I use ubuntu.
[18:30] <BoomerBile> yeah, helps if you have a super computer for compiling... distcc is great, and i compile everything in ram... but it's no good on the road... so ubuntu for the laptop
[18:31] <BoomerBile> well, i don't like ubuntu really so i should say, kubuntu
[18:31] <Knuckle> hm this is confusing me right now
[18:31] <Knuckle> the nvidia-current in the ubuntu repos is version 304.64
[18:31] <Knuckle> which is the version number of the most recent legacy drivers on the nvidia website
[18:32] <Knuckle> any other nvidia drivers in the repos (current-updates, and the two experimental choices) are lower version numbers
[18:32] <Knuckle> ... how does that make sense?
[18:33] <Knuckle> oh, no there's one experimental one which goes up to 310
[18:33] <Dragonite24> hi
[18:33] <Knuckle> still, why would an "updates" version of a package have a lower version number? :/
[18:35] <[snake]> BoomerBile, so I think this is what I want: Option "FlatPanelProperties" "Scaling = Centered"
[18:35] <BoomerBile> you could do it that way i think, i put a 1920x1080 window scaled to 640x480 in the lower right corner of a 1920x1080 monitor before, and the rest was black
[18:37] <[snake]> ok, BoomerBile I think I've got it. we'll see, I'm going to reboot...
[18:38] <BoomerBile> uh
[18:38] <BoomerBile> no
[18:38] <BoomerBile> wait
[18:38] <[snake]> wut
[18:38] <BoomerBile> you don't need to reboot lol
[18:38] <BoomerBile> that's a lot of rebooting
[18:38] <[snake]> oh what do I need to do?
[18:38] <BoomerBile> just log out and restart x
[18:38] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: are you sure?
[18:38] <BoomerBile> positive
[18:38] <[snake]> well, that's tricky on ubuntu... i'll just reboot it's easier
[18:38] <Knuckle> how would you restart x
[18:38] <BoomerBile> easy
[18:38] <Knuckle> properly I mean
[18:39] <BoomerBile> hold alt, press prtscn/sysrq and k
[18:39] <[snake]> I'm not saying it can't be done, I've done it, I just think it would be easier to reboot.
[18:39] <Knuckle> I must be doing it wrong
[18:39] <[snake]> oh
[18:39] <BoomerBile> or if ubuntu still uses it, alt + control + backspace
[18:39] <Knuckle> would that be equivalent to doing sudo service gdm restart?
[18:39] <BoomerBile> yes
[18:39] <Knuckle> yeah then it won't work
[18:39] <s5fs> BoomerBile: thx for your help earlier, i think i'm going for a reinstall. system is no longer suspending when i close the lid and the dedicated volume buttons no longer work. very frustrating.
[18:39] <BoomerBile> it will work
[18:39] <[snake]> BoomerBile, niether of them worked, I think you need to set that up
[18:40] <[snake]> thus
[18:40] <[snake]> it's eaiser to reboot for now :P
[18:40] <BoomerBile> you might have to do it again once you get to gdm
[18:40] <BoomerBile> but it does work
[18:40] <[snake]> oh ok, I'll log out and try.
[18:40] <Knuckle> oh wait he's reloading a config
[18:40] <Knuckle> nevermind
[18:40] <Knuckle> I thought we were talking about reloading drivers themselves
[18:40] <BoomerBile> i rarely reboot
[18:40] <BoomerBile> you can do that too
[18:40] <Knuckle> well not properly
[18:40] <BoomerBile> modprobe -r && modprobe nvidia
[18:40] <BoomerBile> yes properly
[18:41] <BoomerBile> oops
[18:41] <BoomerBile> modprobe -r nvidia && modprobe nvidia
[18:41] <Knuckle> ohh okay
[18:41] <BoomerBile> or you could do rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia
[18:41] <BoomerBile> or rmmod nvidia && insmod nvidia
[18:41] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: how about if I want to try out the latest nvidia drivers
[18:41] <BoomerBile> you can even force it
[18:42] <Knuckle> and remove the current opensource ones?
[18:42] <BoomerBile> install them remove the old insert the new
[18:42] <BoomerBile> from the kernel
[18:42] <BoomerBile> just like i showed you
[18:42] <BoomerBile> the kernel is modular for a reason
[18:42] <Knuckle> hm let me check out modprobe
[18:42] <Knuckle> the manpages
[18:42] <zero_coder> hey, when i am running ubuntu they are showing
[18:43] <zero_coder> running in low graphics mode
[18:43] <BoomerBile> what card zero_coder
[18:43] <zero_coder> cant configure your graphics card or driver
[18:43] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: how'd I list the currently loaded drivers?
[18:43] <BoomerBile> lsmod
[18:43] <Knuckle> I don't know the name of the opensource driver module
[18:43] <BoomerBile> nv
[18:43] <BoomerBile> or nuevou
[18:43] <BoomerBile> depending
[18:43] <Knuckle> ah, nouveau
[18:44] <zero_coder> what can i do about it?
[18:44] <BoomerBile> what card zero_coder
[18:44] <BoomerBile> zero_coder, what is your graphics card make or model
[18:44] <zero_coder> intel graphics 3000
[18:44] <zero_coder> ubuntu was running alright before
[18:45] <[snake]> BoomerBile, um, I'm not sure if ubuntu uses xorg.conf anymore :/
[18:45] <[snake]> i just remembered
[18:45] <BoomerBile> aight
[18:45] <BoomerBile> here's the deal
[18:45] <[snake]> oh well
[18:45] <BoomerBile> xorg-server does not need a config file
[18:45] <BoomerBile> but you Can use one
[18:45] <[snake]> oh
[18:45] <BoomerBile> if you don't provide one it will try to automatically detect it
[18:45] <zero_coder> so , what can i do?
[18:46] <BoomerBile> ubuntu installs drivers for more cards than you need, and usually sets up the wrong one
[18:46] <BoomerBile> or at least in my experience.
[18:46] <[snake]> true^
[18:46] <zero_coder> there is something else
[18:46] <zero_coder> when the grub booter loads
[18:46] <zero_coder> sometimes the arrow keys doesnt work inside
[18:46] <zero_coder> it
[18:46] <zero_coder> i mean , the entire keyboard doesnt work
[18:47] <zero_coder> so that i cant select windows or ubuntu
[18:47] <BoomerBile> there are two ways to fix it, 1) uninstall all unnecessary drivers, amd, nvidia, etc... and hope that fixes it, which it sometimes does... 2) there is a command that if i can remember will allow you to choose the correct one even if others are installed
[18:47] <zero_coder> what command?
[18:47] <zero_coder> besides. what can i do about the boot loader
[18:47] <stobix> zero_coder: you haven't begun typing anything, by any chance? That usually disables the arrow keys for me.
[18:47] <stobix> (IIRC)
[18:48] <zero_coder> nope
[18:48] <zero_coder> the bootloader asks to select between , ubuntu and windows
[18:48] <zero_coder> but , i cant
[18:48] <BoomerBile> i dunno how to fix that, i've never run into that problem before, and if i did it was the keyboard not ubuntu...
[18:48] <zero_coder> at time only
[18:48] <BoomerBile> i don't believe grub is broken
[18:49] <zero_coder> but it doesnt happens everytime though
[18:49] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: installed nvidia-experimental drivers, ran nvidia-xconfig, everything went as expected
[18:49] <Knuckle> ran modprobe -r nouveau && modprobe nvidia
[18:49] <Knuckle> WARNING: Module off not found.
[18:49] <BoomerBile> module off?
[18:49] <Knuckle> yeah... I don't know
[18:49] <BoomerBile> heh, never seen that module in 16 years of compiling kernels
[18:50] <stephen123> Hello. I'm Running into an error with installing ushare  on ubuntu 12.04  "exit status 127"       Full output here: http://pastebin.com/JmkcwWxF
[18:50] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: it's output from the modprobe -r nouveau
[18:50] <Knuckle> if I run that command separately I get it as well
[18:50] <BoomerBile> it's only a warning, did the module quit?
[18:51] <Knuckle> I can still see it in lsmod
[18:51] <BoomerBile> well you can force it to die
[18:52] <BoomerBile> just read man rmmod or man modprobe and look for the force option, but if you do make sure you && modprobe nvidia or you might end up not seeing anything
[18:52] <Knuckle> hm
[18:52] <Knuckle> should I be doing this in an X session?
[18:52] <BoomerBile> it could also lock your system if something else is using the module... i don't know what module off would be, probably something ubuntu specific?
[18:52] <BoomerBile> no
[18:53] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: uh
[18:53] <BoomerBile> doing it in an xsession is asking for trouble
[18:53] <Catbuntu> Hello.
[18:53] <Knuckle> lsmod | grep off shows nothing
[18:53] <BoomerBile> X session... heh
[18:53] <BoomerBile> too much hacking
[18:54] <Knuckle> hehe
[18:54] <Knuckle> "sorry to interrupt our X session baby, I just have to do some modprobing"
[18:54] <WeThePeople> how do i install a install.sh from the desktop that needs to be in root?
[18:54] <BoomerBile> err
[18:55] <kilombo-m9> anybody here im kindof new to this
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> stephen123  there's something with ushare, it gives a 'lock' error here, even after I deleted the lock file
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> stephen123  there's something wrong with ushare, it gives a 'lock' error here, even after I deleted the lock file
[18:55] <kilombo-m9> ok yeah there is
[18:55] <Tech-1> i once dragged a install.sh to a root terminal, it worked
[18:55] <KI4RO> kilombo-m9, We're here, just ask your question
[18:56] <stephen123> MonkeyDust:  So this is an issue with ushare and not ubuntu?
[18:56] <kilombo-m9> can i have help somebody
[18:56] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: 1589 people and bots bsides you
[18:56] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: so if not in an X session, how should I do it? in one of them ctrl-alt-fX terminals?
[18:56] <kilombo-m9> oh ok
[18:56] <xxxwilly> ciao
[18:56] <kilombo-m9> Hey i just want to know how to fix something
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> stephen123  guess so, maybe you can report a bug
[18:56] <tomreyn> !ask | kilombo-m9
[18:57] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: and nice that you made it here
[18:57] <BoomerBile> Knuckle, yes, you can just hit alt+control+f1, kill -9 gdm or kdm or xdm or what ever you use... kill -9 X to be sure, and unload the module and load the new one, using && like i showed you so you don't get left at a blank screen, i can work blind so i don't need to use && but i recommend it.
[18:57] <BoomerBile> ;)
[18:57] <Knuckle> yeah that's definitely useful
[18:58] <Knuckle> I can do SOME things in a terminal "blind"
[18:58] <Knuckle> with blind being no connection to internet
[18:58] <BoomerBile> you could just use ; instead of && but then if the first command fails the second will still run
[18:58] <linuxthefish> does anyone know why unetbootin does not launch the ubuntu installer?
[18:58] <Knuckle> or rather, no convenient way to look up wtf to do
[18:58] <kilombo-m9> So my thing is im using my microphone for xtranormal and when i try to use it the thing comes up telling or asking if it will use the mic with permission i try to click on it and it does nothing
[18:58] <thinkinbee> just started with ubuntu development center ( i am newbie ) any suggestions for learning python easily
[18:59] <BoomerBile> Knuckle, when i say blind i mean i can't see error messages, or any text on the screen...
[18:59] <Knuckle> yeah
[18:59] <Knuckle> I get it
[18:59] <Knuckle> I'm not as much of a ninja as you I'm afraid
[18:59] <BoomerBile> i just get left in sticky situations lol
[18:59] <kilombo-m9> WoW please someone help
[18:59] <BoomerBile> kilombo-m9, you need to be in the audio group probably
[19:00] <kilombo-m9> how
[19:00] <BoomerBile> gpasswd -a <your user name> audio
[19:00] <BoomerBile> then log out and back in
[19:00] <BoomerBile> i'm sure there is some gui for doing it too
[19:00] <BoomerBile> but i don't use gui's much
[19:00] <Hwkiller> you don't need to be in the audio group on ubuntu
[19:00] <kilombo-m9> im kind of young i dont understand that
[19:01] <thinkinbee> just started with ubuntu development center ( i am newbie ) any suggestions for learning python easily
[19:01] <BoomerBile> Hwkiller, you don't need to be? ok... i didn't know cause i add my user to audio anyway
[19:01] <Knuckle> hang on, let's first try to figure out what his problem is exactly
[19:01] <Hwkiller> if you add your user to audio, it allows them to take exclusive control of the audio device, which you don't want
[19:01] <Knuckle> kilombo-m9: you say you try to click on it and it does nothing
[19:02] <kilombo-m9> correct
[19:02] <BoomerBile> well, in my case you do but probably not his
[19:02] <linuxthefish> thinkinbee: join #python
[19:02] <Knuckle> do you mean that the button you're trying to click on freezes
[19:02] <Hwkiller> iirc, udev has rules to allow access to the audio device already, via pulse or dmix and such
[19:02] <Knuckle> or that you can click on the button just fine, but the audio still doesnt work?
[19:02] <kilombo-m9> kind of no no it doesnt i click but nothing happens its not freezing tho
[19:03] <kilombo-m9> is there a way we can audio chat?
[19:04] <kilombo-m9> Knuckle
[19:04] <ratan20989> Hey, How to give static ip in Ubuntu 12.10.? Help me plz.
[19:04] <Knuckle> hm no, I'm watching a video stream right now
[19:04] <kilombo-m9> lol funny
[19:04] <Knuckle> after that I have to fix my own ubuntu
[19:05] <ratan20989> Hey, How to give static ip in Ubuntu 12.10.? Help me plz.
[19:05] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: so this sounds like some flash issue. when you right-click on some flash content, what is the last option in the context menu?
[19:05] <kilombo-m9> hold on a sec
[19:06] <Sutekh3> Hello??
[19:06] <panety> hi, i'm trying to run ubuntu live from my USB on my mackbook pro (2010), any hint?
[19:06] <tomreyn> hello Sutekh3
[19:06] <Sutekh3> I am having trouble running a C program on ubuntu
[19:06] <Sutekh3> from the GUI
[19:06] <panety> luck
[19:06] <panety> i tried with refit and unetbootin but no kucj
[19:06] <Sutekh3> Why cant I double click on a object file for it to execute?>
[19:07] <kilombo-m9> ok its just an adobe flash player
[19:07] <ratan20989> Hey, Guys
[19:07] <kilombo-m9> is there a way i can disable the thing to ask me
[19:08] <BoomerBile> Sutekh3, what file manager are you using?
[19:08] <Sutekh3> um
[19:08] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: what did you expect it would be if not flash player?
[19:08] <Sutekh3> i installed this off of someone's CD. Ill look it up
[19:09] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: you can configre all sites to always have access to your mic, but i really doubt you want to do this.
[19:09] <ratan20989> Hey, How to give static ip in Ubuntu 12.10.? Help me plz.
[19:09] <BoomerBile> Sutekh3, usually if you click help it will tell you pretty fast
[19:09] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9: which version of flash player is it? that's part of why i was asking
[19:10] <kilombo-m9_> hold on
[19:10] <kilombo-m9_> flash layer
[19:10] <tomreyn> ratan20989: you can set one in network manager
[19:10] <kilombo-m9_> player
[19:11] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9_: so much was already known. and the version number is?
[19:11] <kilombo-m9_> i dont know
[19:11] <Sutekh3> I cant find the information about the window manager. I think it's gnome
[19:12] <Sutekh3> wait
[19:12] <Sutekh3> for the File Manager
[19:12] <Sutekh3> it says PCManFM
[19:12] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9_: http://helpx.adobe.com/content/help/en/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player/_jcr_content/main-pars/flash_0/file.res/widget.swf
[19:12] <ratan20989> tomreyn: I tried in edit connections but if i run ifconfig in terminal it is showing a dynamic ip.
[19:12] <\\Mr_C\\> where is initrd-tools for ubuntu 12.10?
[19:12] <BoomerBile> Sutekh3, i don't know much about that one, but it's probably why it's not working, i can click my own c++ program i wrote and compiled and it works fine in Konqueror
[19:12] <kilombo-m9_> what is that for?
[19:13] <tomreyn> ratan20989: after editing the current or a new connection, you need to reconnect using this profile to make it apply
[19:13] <Sutekh3> konqueror file manager?
[19:13] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9_: showns you your flash version #
[19:13] <Sutekh3> Ok
[19:13] <Sutekh3> apt-get ...???
[19:14] <BoomerBile> Sutekh3, yeah or use synaptic and search for konqueror
[19:14] <ratan20989> tomreyn: oh!, I'll try and i'll be back. thank you.
[19:14] <kilombo-m9_> hold on
[19:14] <Sutekh3> so it should just overwrite my current file manager right
[19:15] <BoomerBile> no
[19:15] <BoomerBile> you can have many installed
[19:15] <Sutekh3> ok
[19:15] <ratan20989> tomreyn: Thankx alot I got it finally.. :)
[19:15] <BoomerBile> i have nearly every one, never heard of PCManFM though
[19:15] <tomreyn> ratan20989: you're welcome, glad it works
[19:15] <Sutekh3> when i double clicked on them
[19:15] <Sutekh3> it was creating processes
[19:16] <kilombo-m9_> its
[19:16] <Sutekh3> but the program didnt pop up
[19:16] <kilombo-m9_> 11.2.202.243
[19:18] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9_: okay, that's a bit outdated but not much. it won't be the reason why it behaves unexpectedly when you try to change the privacy settings
[19:18] <pigload> why the ubuntu cpu load more than kubuntu?
[19:18] <kilombo-m9_> cool
[19:18] <kilombo-m9_> so u no what the problem is
[19:18] <Sutekh3> Ok
[19:18] <kilombo-m9_> ?
[19:19] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[19:19] <bekks> pigload: Because different applications have a different cpu usage.
[19:19] <tomreyn> kilombo-m9_: no, i'm just trying to say that my suspicion that you had a much outdated flash version as wrong, so i have no explanation of why it's bahaving differently than what yu expect
[19:19] <pigload> ic
[19:19] <tomreyn> as -> was
[19:20] <kilombo-m9_> here let me ty to update it thanks for your h elp man
[19:20] <ogen3rd> I have a powerpc and am downloading the livecd but I have this question, what's the difference betwwen the other downloads: example and question here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1457712/
[19:20] <Sutekh3> the OS is saying now that I cant make any more processes
[19:20] <Sutekh3> Thanks BoomerBile
[19:21] <BoomerBile> Sutekh3, killall -9 <name of program>
[19:21] <linuxthefish> how can i use my nvidia card insted of my intigrated graphics in ubuntu?
[19:25] <dev_> Hello
[19:25] <dev_> anyone can help me
[19:25] <TheLordOfTime> !anyone | dev_
[19:26] <dev_> the lord of the time please  stop
[19:26] <dev_> That is not necessary
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> dev_, you should just ask your question instead.
[19:26] <Echelon_> Hey!
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> dev_, which is what the bot said.
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> dev_, so if you wouldn't mind, please ask the *real* question here, so people can help you out :)
[19:27] <dev_> That is not necessary
[19:27]  * TheLordOfTime returns to bug triaging, since you're not going to actually give details on what you need help with.
[19:27] <dev_> I need help, i want to know how i would be able to change my fan speed on my laptop like i can on windows
[19:28] <linuxthefish> google for "change fan speed in ubuntu", your laptop might not support it though
[19:29] <linuxthefish> though if your windows install support it, then you properly can
[19:29] <linuxthefish> may i ask why you want to change the speed?
[19:29] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[19:29] <OerHeks> let your ACPI do the fanspeed
[19:29] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[19:32] <csemple> hi guys I've installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS to this Acer EEEPC 1000,   and the SD reader is not working,   it was working when we had 10.04 installed.
[19:33] <csemple> there is no drivers listed in the additional drivers,
[19:40] <dev_> ok
[19:41] <ogen3rd> OK, thanks anyway. I will try again later.
[19:42] <dev_> , anyone know how to make animated background wallpaper work?
[19:44] <dev_> anyone know how to have animated background wallpaper on ubuntu?
[19:44] <dev_> anyone know how to have animated background wallpaper on ubuntu?
[19:45] <dev_> HELLo
[19:45] <dev_> anyone
[19:45] <DJones> !repeat | dev_
[19:45] <dev_> DJones !repeat
[19:46] <dev_> !repeat
[19:47] <dev_> anyone
[19:47] <dev_> anyone know how to have animated background wallpaper on ubuntu?
[19:47] <DJones> dev_: Have patience, if people don't know the answer, there's no point in asking a minute later, you need to give the users in the channel chance to change
[19:48] <Bedry> http://chatakurdi.webs.com/
[19:49] <dev_> DJone instead of telling me all then maybe you could try and help me
[19:49] <DJones> dev_: If I knew, I would have offered, but its not something I've used
[19:50] <meh_> hello, I use xubuntu 12.04 and have the wallpaper recently turned blue and cannot be changed back...
[19:50] <dev_> djones when then please be quiet, i do not need to be told all this other stuff
[19:50] <OerHeks> !attitude | dev_
[19:50] <Noskcaj> meh_, then go to #xubuntu with your problem
[19:50] <dev_> Oerheks !attitude
[19:51] <Noskcaj> dev_, you aren't funny
[19:51] <meh_> noskcaj - thanks. Would you be able to tell me how I could do that?
[19:51] <Noskcaj> click on this: #xubuntu
[19:51] <Bedry> Get Chat Here http://chatakurdi.webs.com/
[19:52] <abdullahfaheem> need help for chan_motif under asterisk on ubuntu 12.04
[19:52] <meh_> thank you.
[19:52] <abdullahfaheem> my asterisk is version 11
[19:52] <dev_> Hello
[19:52] <Bedry> #Noskcaj ,
[19:52] <dev_> !additude
[19:52] <abdullahfaheem> it works OK but no voice when using chan_motif for gtalk
[19:52] <abdullahfaheem> no audhio
[19:53] <abdullahfaheem> help please
[19:53] <Noskcaj> dev_, please go away
[19:53] <ofcan> hello! I just got this error > postgresql dependency error > heres the error message > https://gist.github.com/4360700 > can some1 please help me resolve this?
[19:53] <dev_> Noskcaj you please go away !additude
[19:54] <Noskcaj> *sigh*
[19:56] <dev_> exit
 my asterisk is version 11. it works well but no voice when using chan_motif for gtalk. there is no audio
[19:57] <abdullahfaheem> my asterisk is version 11. it works well but no voice when using chan_motif for gtalk. there is no audio
[19:57] <dev_> anyone know how to change toolbar to the bottom
[19:59] <erncic> abdullahfaheem, have you tried #asterisk ?
[20:00] <Knuckle> BoomerBile: well, so much for not rebooting
[20:00] <Knuckle> I can't unload or load nouveau from the terminal for some reason
[20:00] <dev_> anyone know how to change toolbar to the bottom
no i have not tried yet
[20:01] <erncic> abdullahfaheem, It is a pretty specific problem you are having, they could probably be more help to you.
[20:02] <abdullahfaheem> I tried once but there is no one to reply
[20:02] <Eagleman> I am setting up a ProxyPass (  http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/howto-apache  ) but i have some questions about security, if i use ProxyPass https://localhost:8080/sabnzbd and then visit fqdn.de/sabnzbd, will the login data be encrypted and send to the server or its not encrypted?
[20:02] <abdullahfaheem> and that channel is protected
[20:02] <dev_> exit
[20:02] <dev_> exit
[20:02] <dev_> exit
[20:02] <dev_> exit
[20:02] <dev_> exit
[20:02] <FloodBot1> dev_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:02] <abdullahfaheem> even I have signed up but no reple
[20:02] <erncic> abdullahfaheem, I understand. Good Luck.
[20:02] <abdullahfaheem> join #asterisk
[20:03] <dev_> asterisk why?
[20:03] <dev_> do they help me with moving toolbar from top to bottom
[20:03] <dev_> ?
[20:03] <Tech-1> cant you right click and move ?
[20:03] <dev_> no
[20:03] <Tech-1> huh
[20:03] <dev_> I cant right click at all on toolbar
[20:04] <Tech-1> well, i havent used modern ubuntu since 10.10 so, im prolly outta date here
[20:04] <Tech-1> try your config editor
[20:04] <dev_> config editor?
[20:04] <dev_> Im on 12.04 ubuntu
[20:04] <Tech-1> ya, go to the main menue and see if its there, if not, maybe install it
[20:06] <dev_> Im not sure how to install it is it in the software center?
[20:06] <Tech-1> should be
[20:06] <dr_willis> gconf-editor or gconf-editor.. i cant remember
[20:06] <Tech-1> ya
[20:08] <dev_> I have installed it
[20:08] <puff> I have a tricky apt question.  I was trying to get bumblebee running and so I used the PPAs for nvidia (x-swat) and bumblebee.  I am now reverting those changes and trying to determine the best way to do so.
[20:08] <dev_> installing it now
[20:08] <puff> Specifically, 1) should I remove the PPAs from apt first, then purge the packages I installed from the PPAs, or vice versa?
[20:08] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[20:08] <puff> and 2) Is there any easy way to determine what was installed from the PPAs?
[20:08] <puff> dr_willis: Ah, awesome, thanks.
[20:09] <dev_> where in gconf do i look
[20:09] <dev_> ?
[20:09] <dev_> exactly
[20:09] <dr_willis> for what. ;-) (
[20:09] <ofcan> hello! I just got this error upon apt-get upgrade... > postgresql dependency error > heres the error message > https://gist.github.com/4360700 > can some1 please help me resolve this?
[20:09] <dev_> TO MOVE the toolbar to the bottom
[20:10] <dr_willis> in the gnome fallback mode? no idea.
[20:11] <dev_> im sure this question has been asked before, how is it that no one knows
[20:11] <dev_> This is a simple question, im sure it is popular for those coming from windows
[20:11] <abdullahfaheem> join #asterisk Faheem_
[20:11] <dr_willis> i bet askubuntu.com knows
[20:12] <dr_willis> or the blog sites luke webupd8 or omgubuntu or the forums
[20:12] <yacin_> hy guys please how i can update ubuntu 11.04 drivers to 12.04 drivers
[20:13] <dev_> You cant do that
[20:13] <yacin_> :(
[20:13] <yacin_> thnx
[20:13] <dev_> no problem
[20:15] <dr_willis> yacin_: drivers for what
[20:16] <Walex> yacin_: you can upgrade the kernel, which includes the drivers, to a backported one.
[20:16] <mikk0> im trying to compile a progam and i dont have any header files in /usr/include/X11 on lts12.04. where do i get the header files from?
[20:16] <Walex> yacin_: however you might as well upgrade to 12.04, it is a stable long term version and it is pretty nice
[20:16] <Walex> mikk0: 'apt-cache search', 'apt-file search'
[20:17] <dev_> DO not upgrade to 12.04 just upgrade to 12.10
[20:17] <csemple> anyone know how to make this sd reader that is built into this laptop (acer eeepc 1000) to work again
[20:17] <csemple> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and it stopped working,
[20:18] <csemple> it was working with ubuntu 10.04
[20:18] <Gentoon> How can I login to my Desktop from my laptop with x and all?
[20:18] <Gentoon> Just VNC or RDP?
[20:18] <dev_> downgrade back to 10.04 problem solved
[20:18] <Walex> mikk0: it will be one of the "lib*x11*dev" packages
[20:18] <Gentoon> or SSHw/Tunneling
[20:18] <Walex> dev_: that is a very unusual case
[20:18] <JetBoyJetGirl> I'm dual booting ubuntu 11.10/Windows 7 at the moment and Ubuntu is having major display/freeze up issues. Is there a way I can reinstall Ubuntu without the need for a live CD and keep Windows 7 and its partitions intact?
[20:18] <BoomerBile> Knuckle, yeah i don't know what to tell you in ubuntu, works on gentoo just fine
[20:19] <Walex> Gentoon: depends what you mean by "with x and all", after all X is a network protocol
[20:19] <dev_> you can reinstall ubuntu without hurting windows, but you need livecd or usb
[20:19] <Walex> Gentoon: if they are on the same LAN (low latency) you can just say on the desktop 'export DISPLAY=laptop:0' if you opne the suitable ports.
[20:20] <BoomerBile> i wish there was another way to install ubuntu, like installing gentoo... you can do it from anywhere really
[20:20] <JetBoyJetGirl> Is it not possible to install ubuntu via command line?
[20:20] <dr_willis> debootst4ap can work to install. or netboot.
[20:20] <dev_> jet no
[20:20] <dr_willis> or boot the iso from grub2
[20:21] <Gentoon> Walex: Can you help me do that?
[20:21] <dr_willis> but those can get tricky
[20:21] <JetBoyJetGirl> guess I might need to find CD/DVDs then
[20:21] <dev_> aYes very tricky
[20:21] <BoomerBile> yeah
[20:21] <dev_> Just go buy a dvd at a store and make a new livecd
[20:21] <BoomerBile> i keep thinking oh, i'm in ubuntu, i can install ubuntu on another partition without rebooting... wait no i can't
[20:22] <Walex> Gentoon: sure, but there are very many options. And some depend on you opening the firewall and/or ensuring that the X server binds to an IP address.
[20:22] <Walex> Gentoon: another possibility which is slower but easier is to use X-over-SSH tunneling.
[20:22] <dr_willis> BoomerBile: with debootstrap or vbox you could... but i bet id would be a pain
[20:23] <Gentoon> Walex: I am comforatble with that, its all ovber my LAN so I wont even need to touch the router right?
[20:23] <BoomerBile> probably... gentoo is just extract and chroot, not sure what i'd have to do with debootstrap... i have a couple of ubuntu vbox installs
[20:23] <dev_> Five lies your tv salesperson will tell you
[20:23] <Gentoon> Walex: Id like to stay away from ssh tunneling
[20:23] <Walex> Gentoon: No need to touch your router.
[20:23] <marstr2> (CUPS) I'm able to install two different printers, but neither will print anything, specifically not text documents nor test pages. I've tried printing using lpr, gedit, webmin and the Ubuntu GUI.
[20:23] <marstr2> Google mostly seems to give me the story about the line in mime.convs that needs to be uncommented. That is checked to be OK, and I've tried to fiddle a bit with that config file just to be sure.
[20:23] <marstr2> Error when trying to print a text message from gedit: E [22/Dec/2012:20:41:06 +0100] Returning IPP client-error-document-format-not-supported for Print-Job (ipp://localhost:631/printers/Hewlett-Packard-hp-LaserJet-3030) from localhost
[20:23] <dev_> Please do not flood
[20:24] <dev_> !flood
[20:24] <Gentoon> Walex: Okay lemme go over to the Desktop and turn ssh on so I can do everything from one box
[20:24] <Walex> Gentoon: did a web search nand one link is here. http://www.hungry.com/~jamie/xexport.html
[20:25] <Gentoon> Walex: Thx
[20:25] <dev_> !marstr2 !flood
[20:25] <marstr2> Sorry! It wasn't intended as a flood -- just to show all relevant details.
[20:25] <Walex> Gentoon: the first thing you have to do is to login into the desktop and get a shell there.
[20:25] <IdleOne> dev_: Please stop messing with the bot
[20:25] <marstr2> (And, of course, to show that I did my homework and STFW'd it.)
[20:25] <dev_> Idleone !ot
[20:26] <JetBoyJetGirl> which is the latest stable/supported version of Ubuntu?
[20:26] <fabrizio> !ciao
[20:26] <marstr2> JetBoyJetGirl: 12.10
[20:26] <Walex> JetBoyJetGirl: there always two, like the Sith lords.
[20:26] <mikk0> Walex, ok thanks
[20:26] <dev_> ok
[20:26] <fabrizio> !LIST
[20:27] <Walex> JetBoyJetGirl: the LTS version and the rolling version. 12.04 and 12.10
[20:27] <fabrizio> !sesso
[20:27] <fabrizio> !LIST
[20:27] <dev_> Please stop fab
[20:27] <dev_> you are abusing bot
[20:28] <IdleOne> dev_: I'm going to ask you nicely, please stop making random comments, please follow the guidelines, and please be helpful.
[20:28] <dev_> idle whoare you talking to? Im not making random comments
[20:28] <mikk0> Walex, i did a a "apt-file search *lib*X11*dev" and it gave me nothing
[20:28] <mikk0> actually "apt-file search *lib-äX11*dev*"
[20:29] <Walex> mikk0: that's not the right search. You need to search for the name of the file you want to find.
[20:29] <IdleOne> dev_: my last comment was addressed directly to you. I'm not sure how you missed it.
[20:29] <dev_> Idle0ne !ot
[20:30] <JetBoyJetGirl> wow, is Ubuntu for profit? I've never realized this
[20:30] <OerHeks> profit to the users, yes.
[20:31] <IdleOne> JetBoyJetGirl: Ubuntu is sponsored by Canonical which is a for profit company.
[20:32] <JetBoyJetGirl> which means Canonical pays some of the developers and maintainers of Ubuntu?
[20:32] <bekks> JetBoyJetGirl: Yes.
[20:33] <JetBoyJetGirl> interesting, I didn't know that
[20:33] <JetBoyJetGirl> that's not really 'for profit' , yeah :P
[20:33] <JetBoyJetGirl> that is cool, I guess
[20:33] <Walex> Gentoon: a more detailed exposition: http://www.uic.edu/depts/accc/network/xwindark.html
[20:33] <Gentoon> Walex: Thx
[20:33] <mikk0> Walex, well "apt-file search *lib*x11*dev*" didnt return anything, and neither did "apt-file search *lib*X11*dev*"
[20:34] <IdleOne> JetBoyJetGirl: canonical.com explains in more detail, plus this is off topic for #ubuntu.
[20:34] <Walex> mikk0: that's not the right search. You need to search for the name of the file you want to find.
[20:34] <Gentoon> Real quick I havent been in a linux system in years, how do I make ssh service start at bootup in Ubuntu lake a daemon?
[20:34] <guntbert> Gentoon: you install it
[20:34] <Gentoon> Also badblocks found no bad sectors on my thumbdrive in read more..
[20:34] <bekks> Gentoon: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:35] <Gentoon> Oh it is set as a daemon by default?
[20:35] <Gentoon> I thought I had to start it manually every time
[20:35] <mikk0> Walex, well i dont really know what filename i want. i just want the file with the headers for /usr/include/X11
[20:35] <Walex> mikk0: for example 'apt-file search X11/Xresource.h' will tell you it is in 'libx11-dev'
[20:35] <compdoc> depends on the distro
[20:35] <mikk0> oh i see thanks
[20:35] <Walex> mikk0: when you compile something it will tell you it can't find a specific file...
[20:36] <poz> wow, i just got past some serious boot problems
[20:36] <guntbert> compdoc: we are talking about ubuntu here - so it is handled like planned for ubuntu :)
[20:36] <mayhew> Gentoon: on Ubuntu any service you install runs on startup by default.
[20:36] <poz> anyone want to run me through how to configure nvidia x server settings to have dual screens (left primary, right extented)
[20:36] <Walex> Gentoon: indeed, tragically Debian/ubuntu have a policy of starting any dæmon as soon as it is installed and then on every boot
[20:37] <JetBoyJetGirl> what would be the preferred no cd/usb way to totally wipe and reinstall a broken/crashing ubuntu on a dual boot ubuntu/win 7 system
[20:37] <Walex> poz: lots of examples here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/X11/ and in very many online places
[20:37] <Gentoon> Walex: That is not safe at all
[20:37] <dr_willis> poz: run the nvidia-settings tool ebnable twinview. arrange monitors
[20:38] <Walex> Gentoon: I think it is a crazy idea too, but of course Debian have thought it through and it is sort-of safe.
[20:38] <bekks> JetBoyJetGirl: There is none, since you need a cd/usb for reinstallation. Or you need a PXE server for a network based installation.
[20:38] <poz> thats is what i typicalyl do, but i also typically mess it up before i get it right
[20:38] <poz> this is the 10th time i am doing this
[20:38] <Gentoon> Hey Walex
[20:38] <Gentoon> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo badblocks -s -n /dev/sdc
[20:38] <Gentoon> /dev/sdc is apparently in use by the system; it's not safe to run badblocks!
[20:38] <poz> i just hit buttons until it looks right
[20:38] <Gentoon> Its just a mounted 8GB Thumb drive
[20:38] <Gentoon> Do you know why it is saying that?
[20:39] <poz> it would be awesome if i knew what i was doing
[20:39] <bekks> Gentoon: It is mounted. Thats the reason
[20:39] <dr_willis> poz: with 12.10 twinview turns on automatically for me
[20:39] <Gentoon> bekks: If I unmount it how do I tell it where it is?
[20:39] <poz> 12.10 does not work for me
[20:39] <bekks> Gentoon: It will still be /dev/sdc
[20:39] <poz> damn it, i did some stuff and now twinview is grayed out
[20:39] <poz> i can not select it
[20:40] <Gentoon> bekks: Okay
[20:40] <dr_willis> o_0
[20:40] <poz> now my screens are white
[20:40] <poz> there they go
[20:40] <poz> it looks good now
[20:40] <poz> i think i got it
[20:41] <dr_willis> *boom*
[20:41] <poz> I almost had to abandon ubuntu. it took me 2 days to get it to boot
[20:41] <Walex> Gentoon: because it is mounted.
[20:41] <Gentoon> Walex: Yea it is scanning now
[20:42] <Gentoon> Walex: I lost my buffer, what was that link again?
[20:42] <Walex> poz: at some point I became unable to boot an Ubuntu install, and I have been a opsys developer and admin for a long time.
[20:42] <Walex> Gentoon: a more detailed exposition: http://www.uic.edu/depts/accc/network/xwindark.html
[20:43] <poz> I appreciate the understanding Walex
[20:43] <Walex> poz: one of the extremely unwise decisions of Ubuntu developers has been to make boot more complicated for the sake of it being "pretty".
[20:43] <serp_> pretty?
[20:43] <dr_willis> !pymouth
[20:44] <guntbert> l
[20:44] <dr_willis> !info pymouth
[20:44] <poz> well it all started out because i wanted to solve a smaller boot problem regarding windows 7 and grub
[20:44] <kostkon> :P
[20:44] <kostkon> !plymouth
[20:44] <dr_willis> i spelt it wrong
[20:44] <Gentoon> Walex: Did you have a page that just was a walkthrough on what I need to do?
[20:44] <Walex> Gentoon: did a web search nand one link is here. http://www.hungry.com/~jamie/xexport.html
[20:44] <bekks> Gentoon: What exactly is the issue?
[20:44] <poz> then no matter what it was ONLY booting into windows. even if I reformatted and reinstalled ubuntu and tryed several ways to change bios to boot into ubuntu. just went to windows 7
[20:44] <Walex> Gentoon: it is hard to do a walkthrough, because you need to understand what you are doing.
[20:44] <Gentoon> bekks: No issue, we got it, thx
[20:45] <bekks> Gentoon: Then why do you need a walkthrough tutorial?
[20:45] <Gentoon> Nonsense I have follew many walkthroughs for things I didnt know what I was doing, like the first time I did a Gentoo install, I didnty need to fully understand how linux worked :p
[20:46] <Gentoon> bekks: I am already being helped, thanks.
[20:46] <Walex> poz: GRUB2 is diabolical it writes on parts of disk that it should leave alone. I am still using LILO, which is much neater.
[20:46] <poz> then i found a backup that was some how (but conveniently) stored in my c drive in windows. after I restored the back up , all was good. i just dont know how it was saved where it was
[20:46] <Gentoon> Walex: That second link is perfect thanks
[20:46] <Walex> Gentoon: anybody can help here...
[20:46] <Gentoon> Walex: I didn't say they couldnt, I just find it easier to listen to one person.
[20:47] <Tristan128> Hi. I used to have auto-login enabled and it would always prompt me to unlock my keyring, but now I've disabled auto-login and I still get prompted. How can I fix that?
[20:48] <guntbert> Tristan128: did you change the password?
[20:48] <poz> i think my problem stemmed from "boot-repair" it put a bootloader on every disk and partition!
[20:48] <Tristan128> guntbert: no
[20:48] <poz> i am just happy to be back in ubuntu is all i am saying
[20:49] <guntbert> Tristan128: then I don't know - sorry
[20:49] <vklimkov_> .ощштп №сьгізрштч
[20:49] <Gentoon> Is it possible to mount a partition from another system over a LAN?
[20:49] <Gentoon> Possibly install an OS onto it
[20:49] <guntbert> !nfs | Gentoon
[20:50] <Gentoon> And grub supports booting an NFS?
[20:50] <BoomerBile> Gentoon, you can install gentoo that way, not sure about others.
[20:50] <Gentoon> hmm
[20:50] <przyjaznykanal> hello everyone!
[20:50] <Gentoon> Probably not Ubuntu haha
[20:50] <Gentoon> I dunno why I cant just wait til my SSD comes on Monday
[20:50] <bekks> BoomerBile: It doesnt depend on the distro.
[20:50] <przyjaznykanal> exit
[20:50] <Gentoon> Just mad it isnt here now, like it should be
[20:51] <BoomerBile> bekks, how would you install ubuntu that way?
[20:51] <Tristan128> I can't wait until my 23 inch IPS monitor comes on monday
[20:51] <BoomerBile> cause i'd really like to know
[20:51] <Gentoon> bekks: Sure it does, I just researched and the installed has to support installing to NFS
[20:51] <Tristan128> it's gonna be awesome.
[20:51] <bekks> BoomerBile: By using debootstrap.
[20:51] <BoomerBile> got a link?
[20:51] <Walex> Tristan128: they tend to be pretty good, which one did you get?
[20:51] <Gentoon> It depends on the distro if you just want to use the installer
[20:51] <bekks> Gentoon: It doesnt depend on the distro. It depends on the ability to mount a NFS share.
[20:51] <AndroUser> Hello, I need help with my internet connection.
[20:52] <Tristan128> Walex: this one http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DWITHI/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00
[20:52] <bekks> Gentoon: You dont need the installer to install Ubuntu.
[20:52] <Gentoon> bekks: Which the Ubuntu installer can not do, so it depends on the distro.
[20:52] <bekks> Gentoon: It doesnt, as I just stated.
[20:52] <Gentoon> Yea now you are being practical.
[20:52] <Gentoon> Lots of people install Ubuntu manually for NFS.
[20:53] <BoomerBile> Gentoon, it depends on being able to mount an nfs share, as well as a core, bare metal installation of the os... which is how you always install gentoo, debootstrap is probably something that builds that core for you, i've read about this tool because i run ubuntu on my phone and they use it, but it's a ton more work
[20:53] <bekks> Gentoon: No one said that. I was just correcting your statement.
[20:53] <bekks> !debootstrap
[20:54] <Gentoon> Sounds exactly like an Arch install.
[20:54] <Gentoon> Or Gentoo.
[20:54] <DaemeonZane> msg NickServ IDENTIFY Metman212!@
[20:54] <Gentoon> Oops
[20:54] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[20:54] <Eagleman> Which application would be easy but yet powerfull and feature rich to use iptables?
[20:54] <Gentoon> I knda miss Arch
[20:54] <bekks> Gentoon: And like a gentoo install. And like the thing that the installer does.
[20:54] <guntbert> !ufw  | Eagleman
[20:54] <Walex> Eagleman: try 'ferm' 'shorewall' 'firebuilder'
[20:55] <Gentoon> Any other Distro..
[20:55] <BoomerBile> Eagleman, shorewall
[20:55] <smacktalk> I'm trying to connect to another linux box via vnc/vinagre...do I need to do something on the remote box to allow that?
[20:55] <Gentoon> That is a broad statement
[20:55] <guntbert> Gentoon: please keep your statements to ubuntu support
[20:55] <Gentoon> smacktalk: Maybe install a VNC Server?
[20:56] <Gentoon> guntbert: It was.
[20:56] <poz> I just want to say that this is the best chat room ever.
[20:56] <AndroUser> My laptop Spots networks, but can't connect to them, when I try to connect... Ubuntu Claims it is connecting but it doesen't, the same for when it says it is connected.
[20:56] <quick-> Will anyone please help me in installing simon ?
[20:56] <BoomerBile> poz, lol
[20:56] <Gentoon> AndroUser: are you using a wrapper or native wifi driver?
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:54    Gentoon > Or Gentoo.
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:54    Gentoon > Oops
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:54    Gentoon > I knda miss Arch
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:54      bekks > Gentoon: And like a gentoo install. And like the thing that the installer does.
[20:57] <bekks> !anyone | quick-
[20:57] <FloodBot1> guntbert: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:55    Gentoon > Any other Distro..
[20:57] <AndroUser> Gentoon: IDK, how to check
[20:57] <guntbert> 21:55    Gentoon > That is a broad statement
[20:58] <guntbert> sorry :-/
[20:58] <julius_> hi
[20:59] <julius_> can i run this:  bash somescript.sh &          inside /etc/rc.local with a sleep command inside the script and can expect the rest of the system to boot normally?
[20:59] <AndroUser> Anyone Willing to help? :-(
[21:00] <dr_willis> julius_: yes...
[21:00] <AndroUser> Sec... Will repost.
[21:00] <Gentoon> AndroUser: one sec
[21:00] <quick-> Has anybody installed simon / vedics on ubuntu 12.10 before ?
[21:00] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) My laptop Spots networks, but can't connect to them, when I try to connect... Ubuntu Claims it is connecting but it doesen't, the same for when it says it is connected.
[21:01] <Gentoon> Please don't repeat AndroUser
[21:01] <Gentoon> We need to find out about your wifi driver and reinstall it or a different one most likely
[21:01] <Gentoon> Is this a fresh install?
[21:01] <AndroUser> Quite old one
[21:02] <bekks> !anyone > quick-
[21:02] <OerHeks> AndroUser, can you ping or use hard ip to get google ? 74.125.224.72
[21:02] <AndroUser> I am using the ubuntu driver.
[21:02] <Gentoon> He cant connect to a router
[21:02] <AndroUser> Sec
[21:02] <julius_> dr_willis, thx
[21:02] <dub`> need help with 12.10 not recognizing my wireless card
[21:03] <AndroUser> I tried to send ping to the Url.
[21:03] <bekks> AndroUser: You cant ping an URL.
[21:03] <AndroUser> Doesn't work.
[21:03] <bekks> AndroUser: You can only ping a hostname or an IP.
[21:03] <AndroUser> Oh.
[21:03] <Gentoon> How can he ping an IP if he cant connect to a router?
[21:03] <OerHeks> Gentoon, he is connected, probably a DNS issue
[21:03] <Gentoon> AndroUser: You are on another computer right now?
[21:04] <dub`> any advice?
[21:04] <bekks> Gentoon: Until now, we just know that he cant ping an URL, which is technically impossible.
[21:04] <Walex> dub`: as a rule, the easiest thing is to change card, use a USB stick or whatever. The second easiest thing is to use backported kernel modules. The third easieest thing is to use a backported kernel
[21:04] <AndroUser> As I said, sometimes ubuntu says I am connected
[21:04] <Gentoon> OerHeks: No he said his computer sees the wireless networks but cant connect
[21:04] <AndroUser> I am on my andre.
[21:04] <AndroUser> Andro.
[21:04] <Butch128> Newbie question... why can't a program access a directory unless it owns the full path?
[21:04] <OerHeks> Gentoon, " Ubuntu Claims it is connecting but it doesen't" is what i read
[21:05] <Gentoon> He isnt going to be able to resolve dns or ping an IP if he cant connect to a router..
[21:05] <Gentoon> OerHeks: Read up higher
[21:05] <Butch128> e.g. /my/data/directory/mysql  - can't read unless /my, and /my/data, and /my/data/directory are all owned by mysql...?
[21:05] <dr_willis> Butch128: security fyndamentals
[21:05] <bekks> Butch128: Thats incorrect. Whats the actual problem?
[21:05] <BoomerBile> Butch128, you have a key to the inside door of a building, your office, but you don't have the key to the front door, can you get through your office door if the front door is locked?
[21:05] <bekks> Butch128: Thats not true. It depends on the permissions set.
[21:05] <bekks> !permissions > Butch128
[21:05] <Butch128> I've created a separate partition /mysite - two directories /mysite/mysql and /mysite/www  - but unless /mysite is owned by mysql, mysql cannot read, and /mysite/www cannot be read by apache
[21:06] <Gentoon> AndroUser: Are you on the same Computer now that you are having connection problems with?
[21:06] <pent0r> I have trouble resolving dns. I've checked resolve.conf on my bridged VM and it has the correct DNS from my router
[21:06] <pent0r> any tips?
[21:06] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Hello.
[21:06] <pent0r> hi
[21:06] <bekks> Butch128: It depends on the permissions set. You just got a link from ubottu.
[21:07] <pent0r> nslookup and dig both timeout
[21:07] <Butch128> bekks: thanks
[21:07] <Gentoon> pent0r: Can you ping that DNS IP?
[21:07] <Butch128> bekks: issue is... even if i chmod 777 all directories... still can't read... which doesn't make sense to me
[21:07] <AndroUsrOnWindow> gentoon: Sometimes ubuntu says it is connected, but the browser can't connect to any website.
[21:07] <opiengLinux> hi all, I am having problems sharing folders between Windows and Ubuntu using VMWare can anyone help I follow guides but still not luck
[21:07] <pent0r> negative
[21:08] <pent0r> hm
[21:08] <opiengLinux> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux
[21:08] <bekks> BoomerBile: Because the files have the wrongownership.
[21:08] <guntbert> Butch128: never set a directory 777, unless you are exactly knowing what you are doing
[21:08] <pent0r> network is unreachable
[21:08] <Gentoon> AndroUsrOnWindow: okay can you get access to the linux system now?
[21:08] <AndroUsrOnWindow> BTW, I am sorry I don't know much about my driver, etc... That laptop is for work.
[21:08] <BoomerBile> bekks, yes i understand permissions quite well... but i answered his newbie question, his first one, labeled newbie question.
[21:08] <bekks> !apache > Butch128
[21:09] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Sec.
[21:09] <pent0r> my VM is also on the DMZ
[21:09] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Yes, what now?
[21:09] <poz> what does it mean when an application is "non-free"?
[21:09] <Butch128> sorry, my bad - chmod 777 did work, chmod 755 also seems to have done the trick... i must have fatfingered it before
[21:09] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Non Free and Open source.
[21:09] <pent0r> asi wanted to make it accessible to the exterior. I'd think that would be transparent for the networking
[21:10] <Gentoon> go into a terminal and type ifconfig
[21:10] <Gentoon> pastebin it for me
[21:10] <bekks> Butch128: It is a pretty bad idea to use 755 on a webserver.
[21:10] <AndroUsrOnWindow> According the the FSF.
[21:10] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Okay.
[21:10] <guntbert> poz: see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[21:10] <Butch128> its actually my home computer - yea, usually 600 everything
[21:10] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Gentoon: I can't connect to the net from my linux.
[21:10] <poz> thanks guntbert, looking at it now
[21:11] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Only from my windows and android.
[21:11] <Walex> dub`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[21:11] <pent0r> ah, problem, no conenctivity
[21:11] <AndroUsrOnWindow> I will still try to send the ping.
[21:12] <pent0r> can't get clipboard from the VM
[21:12] <pent0r> hm
[21:12] <Walex> dub`: most WiFi sticks "just work". But check beforehand to make sure.
[21:12] <Gentoon> AndroUsrOnWindow: type ping 127.0.0.1
[21:12] <Walex> dub`: from backports the module you might need is 'linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless'
[21:13] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Okay, My Laptop got stuck, Restarted.
[21:13] <pent0r> works
[21:13] <guntbert> !who | pent0r
[21:13] <Gentoon> k
[21:13] <pent0r> ping to my eth0 also works
[21:13] <dub`> by just work you mean plug it in and ready to go?
[21:14] <pent0r> I'm thinking the route data is innacurate
[21:14] <Gentoon> AndroUsrOnWindow: When you are done do ifconfig again and under wlan0 tell me what it says for inet addr
[21:14] <guntbert> dub`: what happens when you plug it in?  look at dmesg | tail afterwards
[21:14] <AndroUsrOnWindow> Please wait, Laptop is slow due to unity.
[21:14] <pent0r> i.e. it contains my router, and ISP servers, but with the VM on the DMZ, my VM interface has the router public IP, and is therefore on a different network
[21:14] <dub`> i have not purchased it yet
[21:15] <AndroUsrOnWindow> I should download xfce.
[21:15] <dub`> i am asking questions before I do so
[21:15] <pent0r> so the internal nameserver will fail by default
[21:15] <pent0r> thought I'd think the public ISP nameservers would work
[21:15] <Gentoon> Can I change DMs in Live Ubuntu?
[21:15] <Gentoon> I have a 1.4GB Persistant file
[21:16] <Gentoon> Cause unity is driving me nuts as well
[21:16] <Mongolski> hej
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> +
[21:17] <pent0r> inet addr: 82.155.161.30 Bcast:82.255.255.255 Mask: 255.0.0.0
[21:17] <bokp> Naujas publikas cs.ewar.lt:27018
[21:17] <Gentoon> I just want my virtual desktops to be in one straight line so I dont have to deal with up and down
[21:18] <guntbert> pent0r: who told you to use those settings?
[21:18] <guntbert> bokp: don't post random links here
[21:18] <pent0r> guntbert: nobody. it's default
[21:19] <pent0r> guntbert: I just set the VM to bridged and put it on my router's DMZ
[21:19] <pent0r> the OS did the rest
[21:19] <guntbert> pent0r: does you router provide DHCP?
[21:19] <guntbert> *your
[21:19] <pent0r> yes
[21:20] <Gentoon> AndroUser: Still restarting?
[21:20] <guntbert> pent0r: then you configured it wrong - whats the ip address/netmask of your host?
[21:21] <Gentoon> use CIDR
[21:22] <pent0r> my host is on the internal DHCP LAN
[21:22] <Gentoon> I havent used CIDR since my CCNA class 5 years ago haha
[21:22] <bekks> pent0r: Whats the IP of your host then, not the DMZ IP host?
[21:22] <guntbert> pent0r: ???
[21:22] <pent0r> I shall try to edit the resolv.conf with google nameservers
[21:23] <pent0r> host: win7 machine
[21:23] <bekks> Gentoon: Please keep it to the ubuntu support.
[21:23] <Gentoon> I am
[21:23] <bekks> 1222 222238 < Gentoon> I havent used CIDR since my CCNA class 5 years ago haha
[21:23] <bekks> Gentoon: You arent.
[21:23] <Gentoon> Yup
[21:23] <pent0r> VM BT5 bridged set on router to be on DMZ => got assigned router public IP
[21:24] <OerHeks> LoLz backtrack5
[21:24] <pent0r> but resolv.conf has router as first nameserver
[21:24] <bekks> pent0r: The DMZ IP is a seperated LAN normally, not some public LAN.
[21:24] <pent0r> and ISP has the next ones
[21:25] <pent0r> I'll mess around with different setups and try to gauge what configs works
[21:25] <pent0r> bbl thanks
[21:26] <bekks> !backtrack | pent0r
[21:27] <poz> how can i see which ubuntu I have installed?
[21:28] <Ben64> poz: lsb_release -r
[21:28] <poz> thank you
[21:28] <poz> is it painless to update to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04.1 lts?
[21:29] <Ben64> should be, but 12.04 is LTS, and is supported for 5 years
[21:29] <poz> ben64, are you saying i dont need too?
[21:29] <Ben64> right, you can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it comes out
[21:30] <poz> i will wait then
[21:31] <poz> just thought that since i just installed to 12.04.01 there would be no risk
[21:31] <poz> 12.10 install was not working
[21:31] <poz> but i might if 12.04 is already set up
[21:34] <Gentoon> I am trying to install Ubuntu onto the Flash drive again, badblock came back with no errors full read/write
[21:35] <winb> Gentoon: try unetbootin
[21:35] <Gentoon> winb: Thats how I got the iso on the 2GB USB
[21:35] <Gentoon> I am actually installing Ubuntu now
[21:36] <winb> Gentoon: so it worked ok
[21:36] <Gentoon> My Laptop hdd died so while it ships I am try an 8GB Flash the laptops hard drive
[21:37] <lickalott> Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this ---> http://i49.tinypic.com/214nl06.jpg
[21:37] <winb> For some reasons the installer wants to install grub on the flashdrive
[21:37] <Gentoon> Unetbootin? Yea always works fine but I dont want to Last time I tried to install onto the flashdrive I kept getting weird i/o errors and took forever to install
[21:38] <Gentoon> I dont want to use live I meant
[21:38] <Gentoon> But I just ran a badblocks read/write test  on the flash drive and its fine
[21:38] <Gentoon> so I am trying again
[21:38] <Gentoon> see if it happens again
[21:40] <Gentoon> Yea its doing it again [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:41] <Gentoon> [sdb] Assuming cache data write through
[21:41] <bekks> Gentoon: Please pastebin the output of dmesg
[21:41] <Gentoon> k
[21:44] <lickalott> How is this? - Silentkiller:~> fsck -y
[21:44] <lickalott> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[21:44] <lickalott> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[21:44] <lickalott> fsck.ext4: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/mapper/silener-root
[21:44] <lickalott> Possibly non-existent device?
[21:44] <FloodBot1> lickalott: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <Gentoon> bekks: http://pastebin.com/3xzfwqUh
[21:45] <Gentoon> Weird thing is sda is the thumb drive I am running the live ubuntu on
[21:45] <Gentoon> and sdc is the 8gb
[21:45] <blubub> I am trying to start a service, via "sudo service mediatomb start", but it says "mediatomb start/post-stop, process 9652", and the command status says "mediatomb stop/waiting"
[21:45] <Gentoon> I dont even see an sdb in my fdisk -l
[21:46] <bekks> Gentoon: Then that device is broken. Replace it.
[21:47] <Gentoon> What device?
[21:47] <Gentoon> The 8GB is fine I just ran a full badblocks read/write scan on it
[21:47] <Gentoon> Its not even complaining about sdc
[21:48] <Gentoon> its talking about sdb
[21:48] <Gentoon> I dont even know wtf sdb is
[21:48] <Gentoon> bekks: Did you look at the pastebin?
[21:48] <gribouille> hi
[21:49] <gribouille> how can I know the type of an installed package (for ex: library, application, documentation)?
[21:49] <bekks> Gentoon: Yes. Thats why I am suggesting to replace the thumbdrive.
[21:51] <Gentoon> bekks: he Thumbdrive is fine I just did a full Badblocks read/write scan it is /dev/sdc the dmesg tals about sdb which doesnt even exist. So what are you talking about?
[21:51] <Gentoon> Is thelse that can help?
[21:53] <Gentoon> [29074.458689] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed
[21:54] <Gentoon> sdb is not either of my thumb drives bekks
[21:54] <bekks> Gentoon: However, your sdb is broken.
[21:55] <vernon> Does anyone know how to install the proprietary nvidia drivers for xubuntu 12.10?
[21:55] <Gentoon> And what is my sdb?
[21:55] <Gentoon> bekks: Please tell me what my sdb is?
[21:55] <bekks> Gentoon: How could I know that...?
[21:55] <gac> Gentoon: it'll be your second hard drive
[21:55] <vernon> Never mind... Let me reboot to see if things worked...
[21:55] <gac> more than likely
[21:56] <Gentoon> I have two thumb drives.. no hard drive they are sda and sdc
[21:56] <Gentoon> nothing else even shows in fdisk -l
[21:56] <Gentoon> So how am I getting errors for sdb?
[21:57] <gac> it appears that sdb is some kind of multi-format card reader device
[21:57] <gac> do you have one of those?
[21:57] <Gentoon> gac: Yes but it has nothing in it..
[21:57] <Gentoon> and has nothing to do with the Ubuntu install lol
[21:58] <gac> well that's what sdb is
[21:58] <gac> :)
[21:58] <gac> so for whatever reason, ubuntu doesn't like it
[21:58] <Gentoon> gac here is the dmesg
[21:58] <Gentoon> http://pastebin.com/3xzfwqUh
[21:58] <gac> maybe it's not correctly reporting that it's empty, and ubutnu thinks there's a problem because it can't be read/written to
[21:58] <Gentoon> So I can never install ubuntu on this laptop?
[21:58] <bekks> Gentoon: Line 744 - 746 from your paste. Dont tell me I have no colue what you are talking about when YOU just overread whats your sdb.
[21:59] <gac> i don't see why these errors should stop an installation, but if it is, then yes you may never be able to install ubuntu on it
[21:59] <gac> try just putting a card in it or something, that might shut it up
[21:59] <Gentoon> bekks: What are you talking about?
[21:59] <bekks> Gentoon: your dmesg paste.
[21:59] <bekks> It tells you what sdb is.
[22:00] <Gentoon> Yea gac has already discovered this
[22:00] <Gentoon> We have been talking about it
[22:00] <Gentoon> It shouldnt have anything to do with my Thumb drive
[22:01] <bekks> Gentoon: I know. I just want you to not tell people they have no clue when it is you, who overread something.
[22:01] <gac> bekks: i never saw anyone say you "had no clue"?
[22:01] <Gentoon> What are you talking about?
[22:01] <Gentoon> I didn't
[22:01] <Gentoon> He has been trolling people here all day.
[22:01] <Gentoon> He earlier said sdb had to be my thumb drive
[22:02] <bekks> And thats trolling...?
[22:02] <Gentoon> Even though I told him it was sdc
[22:02] <bekks> I£d better not waste my time with you then.
[22:02] <Gentoon> Please don't
[22:03] <Gentoon> Kept telling me my thumb drive was bad, even though I told you 3 times I did a full Badblicks read/write scan on it with 0 errors
[22:03] <Gentoon> Nothing in the dmesg points to it being a problem with sdc...
[22:03] <gac> personally i'd just try getting a memory card of some sort, putting it in the card reader and trying the installation again
[22:04] <gac> even though you're not trying to install to the card reader, it seems that ubuntu is trying to read it (maybe to give you a list of drives to install onto?) and failing, it may succeed if there's a card in there, and then you can install to the thumb drive
[22:05] <Gentoon> This is after I select the drive lol
[22:06] <Gentoon> But I found a 2GB MicroSD ill throw it in an adapter and put it in see what happens
[22:06] <Tech-1> i ran slacko off of one of those
[22:06] <gac> it's worth a go, i reckon it's flagging up all the errors because the card reader is empty, but it's not reporting empty to the kernel and it's trying to read/write from it for some reason
[22:07] <gac> you may find that if you can get installed, there may be a kernel update that handles it better, so the SD card might only be needed for the installation
[22:08] <Gentoon> Cross your fingers lol
[22:08] <linuxthefish> hi, does anyone know a good video editor for ubuntu?
[22:10] <lickalott> guys, need a little bit of help.  I accidentally copied over my entire fstab file from my previous build (instead of just pasting certain parts) and now I'm getting a dev mapper error on boot up.
[22:10] <lickalott> can i fix it manually with something like the output from blkid?
[22:12] <Preflex> lickalott, that should work.
[22:13] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[22:17] <putrowengi> gm all :)
[22:18] <lo> lut
[22:26] <Gentoon> Well let us see what happens now
[22:27] <Gentoon> It gives sdc errors at bootup as well
[22:27] <Gentoon> dmesg is full of em
[22:27] <Gentoon> But it reads the card
[22:27] <Gentoon> I will just disconnect it from the bus if its simply connected via a usb header
[22:28] <Gentoon> gac: You still around?
[22:28] <gac> yeah, ish
[22:29] <Gentoon> Haha okay
[22:29] <gac> maybe you acn just disable it in the laptop BIOS
[22:30] <aplracer1> hello can someone help me?
[22:30] <kevjonesin> #bodhilinux
[22:31] <kevjonesin> opps ignore that
[22:31] <Gentoon> aplracer1: Ask your question, usually a god start.
[22:31] <Gentoon> good*
[22:31] <Gentoon> Well so far so good.
[22:31] <aplracer1> I have used the wubi installer and let it reboot but it has notinstalled ubuntu
[22:32] <Gentoon> Does wubi partition the hdd?
[22:32] <Gentoon> I have never used it?
[22:32] <gac> no, i think it installs into a file in C:\Ubuntu or similar
[22:32] <Gentoon> So it doesnt run natively?
[22:32] <aplracer1> I want to replace the whole hdd with linux
[22:32] <gac> yeah, it runs natively
[22:32] <Gentoon> Then make a CD or USB
[22:32] <aplracer1> I do not want to save any thing including xp
[22:32] <gac> there's a file on your NTFS drive, which contains an image of an ext4 filesystem
[22:32] <Gentoon> gac: Interesting I would love to see how that works sometime
[22:33] <gac> ubuntu installs to that, grub chainloads it (grub has NTFS support_
[22:33] <Gentoon> And how does it boot a virtual hard drive?
[22:33] <gac> it's not really a virtual HD, it's just a filesystem image
[22:33] <gac> gets mounted as a loopback device (like mounting an ISO rather than burnign it)
[22:34] <aplracer1> What is the simplest way to completely start fresh using linux
[22:34] <Gentoon> aplracer1: A CD or USB
[22:34] <Gentoon> Download the Ubuntu ISO
[22:34] <gac> aplracer1: during the installation from CD it should give you the option to use your entire disk
[22:34] <gac> do that :)
[22:34] <aplracer1> I have tried that to no avail
[22:34] <Gentoon> Burn to CD or use Unetbootin to make a bootable USB
[22:34] <aplracer1> I cant even get my comp to let me boot frokm any disc
[22:34] <Gentoon> What do you mean to no avail?
[22:35] <Gentoon> You cant get into BIOS?
[22:35] <aplracer1> I cant even get my comp to let me boot from any disc
[22:35] <aplracer1> I have tried it and it hasnt worked
[22:35] <rocky_> bobweaver, i know i have done that in past it should be just an option to turn it on
[22:35] <rocky_> How to turn on a feature where login screen comes to the point Ubuntu 12.10 is loaded, in other words when i start laptop, the laptop waits for user login credentials then the user enters and then Ubuntu loads, i'm looking to allow Ubuntu to load and open login screen as if screen is locked
[22:35] <Gentoon> aplracer1: Can you get into your BIOS?
[22:36] <aplracer1> what would be the process in which i do that
[22:36] <Gentoon> When you first start your computer it will say press something like F10 or Dwl to enter Setup...
[22:36] <Gentoon> Del*
[22:37] <aplracer1> I am running xp on an old laptop and just want to wipe it and switch to linux, how would I do that step by step
[22:37] <Gentoon> Pay close attention to the first screen or 2 you see when you turn on your computer
[22:37] <lickalott> Preflex....ready to laugh?
[22:37] <Gentoon> aplracer1: I am telling you
[22:37] <lickalott> /dev/mapper/Silentkiller-root vs /dev/mapper/silentkiller-root
[22:37] <Gentoon> aplracer1: You need to access your Bios to change your boot order or at least access a boot selection screen at startup..
[22:37]  * lickalott bangs head into keyboard
[22:38] <aplracer1> it doesnt give me the option to choose what to boot from when i turn it on though
[22:38] <Ethan> Hello
[22:38] <aplracer1> how would i access my bios
[22:39] <lickalott> hit del after you hear the "post" beep
[22:39] <Gentoon> lickalott: Its different for every machine
[22:39] <aplracer1> what area should i look in
[22:39] <Gentoon> aplracer1: I told you, pay close attention to what it say on the screen when you forst start the machine
[22:39] <aplracer1> control panel?
[22:40] <gac> aplracer1: what brand of laptop is it?
[22:40] <Gentoon> aplracer1: No when you first start the computer
[22:40] <Consty> anyone know why the native linux client for Team Fortress 2 runs so crappy even with the latest proprietary drivers? I've read that compiz can be to blame, but I've tried using Ubuntu2D to no avail. Any recommendations?
[22:40] <lickalott> yeah.... but in general if you don't see the bios flash screen start cramming on the F keys or del or esc
[22:40] <aplracer1> it literally goes from saying Toshiba to signing on to Windows xp
[22:40] <lickalott> Gentoon, why would the grub not auto load?  i have to physically hit enter
[22:40] <gac> aplracer1: what model of toshiba laptop?
[22:40] <aplracer1> Satellite
[22:40] <gac> which one?
[22:40] <Gentoon> lickalott: No, not in general it can be a lot of different keys depending on manufacturer make model bios etc
[22:41] <Gentoon> lickalott: I dunno, is it installed to the MBR?
[22:41] <gac> Toshiba are usually Escape or F2, depending what BIOS it has
[22:41] <gac> when the toshiba logo appears, try hammering on F12
[22:41] <gac> that should get you a boot menu
[22:41] <aplracer1> A25-S2792 is the model #
[22:41] <gac> then you can choose to boot from CD
[22:41] <Gentoon> or USB
[22:41] <gac> doesn't always work on old satellites, depends on model
[22:42] <lickalott> it was
[22:42] <arcid13> Hello, I was wondering if theres anyway to use my Laptops wifi, and have it give the internet (for lack of better words) out of the cable jack in the back of the machine
[22:42] <lickalott> all of the sudden it stopped doing things right
[22:42] <Gentoon> gac: No warnings during install to the flash drive so far :)
[22:42] <gac> Gentoon: good news :)
[22:42] <aplracer1> the model is A25-S2792
[22:42] <gac> aplracer1: that's the SKU, not the model number
[22:42] <Gentoon> gac: Yup I can get away from this damn Live BS
[22:42] <gac> the model number will be "Satellite U200" or similar
[22:42] <Gentoon> Which has actually been a gos send
[22:42] <Gentoon> He said he got in BIOS though didnt he?
[22:43] <gac> i dunno, not really been reading
[22:43] <gac> :)
[22:43] <Gentoon> arcid13: You want to make your Laptop a wifi hotspot?
[22:43] <aplracer1> i have looked and that seems to be the model #
[22:43] <lickalott> i'm gonna rebuild Gentoon
[22:44] <arcid13> Gentoon, yeah basically I have a router and I want my laptop to  connect to it, and then I want to use a cable to connect my laptop to my desktop
[22:44] <arcid13> don't know if this is possible
[22:44] <Gentoon> aplracer1: Just restart the laptop and press F12 a lot as soon as the power comes on
[22:45] <aplracer1> I will try again
[22:45] <Gentoon> arcid13: So your laptop gets internet through your wifi via wifi but your Desktop has no internet and you want to get it internet?
[22:45] <arcid13> Yes.
[22:45] <Gentoon> through your router I meant
[22:45] <arcid13> yeah
[22:46] <Gentoon> Just connect the desktop to the router with Ethernet?
[22:46] <Gentoon> Or buy a Wifi Card?
[22:46] <arcid13> I have one.. but the other computer uses windows.. So nothing works ofc
[22:46] <Gentoon> You have a wifi card in the Desktop?
[22:47] <arcid13> Yes, but drivers are horrible for it.
[22:47] <aplracer1> ok so i have tried to boot from my disk, how would i know the disk is bootable?
[22:48] <aplracer1> and i did it correctly
[22:48] <Gentoon> aplracer1: Just download the ISO from Ubuntu.com then burn the ISO to a disk with something like imgburn or Alcohol120
[22:48] <aplracer1> ok i will try that
[22:49] <jrib> hello, is anyone aware of an alternative to "unclutter" to hide the mouse cursor?
[22:53] <arcid13> Jrib: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11761584/how-to-hide-the-cursor-in-my-gtk-application-written-in-c
[22:54] <sliddjur> Is there a "paint-like" (windows) application for ubuntu preinstalled?
[22:55] <sliddjur> And what its name?
[22:55] <jrib> sliddjur: hmm, no I don't think any is pre-installed.  I don't recall if gimp is still pre-installed these days, but does that count?
[22:55] <sliddjur> maybe a little bit too advanced
[22:55] <sliddjur> just need something simple
[22:55] <sliddjur> and its not preinstalled
[22:55] <jrib> sliddjur: there are several "paint" type programs in the repositories.  But they aren't preinstalled
[22:55] <KI4RO> Doesn't libre have a drawing program pre installed?
[22:56] <ccbn> I have an Nvidia graphics running nvidia binaries hooked up to my two monitors. I'd like to use the integrated intel HDMI out for sending just audio to my AV receiver. is it possible to use the intel graphics HDMI without using it through X?
[22:57] <BlackDalek> I am trying to copy a python program from one computer to another... I copied all the files but I get error "ImportError: No module named iview.config" How do I fix this?
[22:57] <jrib> BlackDalek: what program?
[22:57] <KI4RO> sliddjur, LibreOffice Draw
[22:57] <BlackDalek> jrib, python-iview
[22:57] <sliddjur> KI4RO: thanks. ill look into it
[22:58] <KI4RO> sliddjur, Welcome Happy Holidays
[22:58] <sliddjur> KI4RO: u2
[22:58] <jrib> BlackDalek: what did you copy?  How are you running it?  Is there a reason you don't just redo the install procedure used on the original machine?
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> BlackDalek: Why are you doing this if you're running ubuntu?  Why not use the package management system?
[22:59] <BlackDalek> jrib, the package is no longer available online. Can no longer install using the original method of apt-get install as removed from repository.
[22:59] <_andyj__> what could cause both chrome and firefox to not properly display something as simple as www.bootswatch.com samples?
[23:00] <jrib> BlackDalek: https://github.com/akent/python-iview
[23:01] <_andyj__> I'm trying to figure out where to even start debugging what is going on with ubuntu 12.04 and html display issues
[23:02] <BlackDalek> jrib, I looked at that site yesterday, but could not work out how to install from there or what to download... :(
[23:02] <Gentoon> [  702.969326] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 08 00
[23:02] <Gentoon> :(
[23:03] <jrib> BlackDalek: start by cloning the repository, then read the README, install the packages it lists, and finally follow the usage instructions there
[23:04] <jrib> BlackDalek: seems like debian packaging is also there if you want to build a package
[23:04] <Gentoon> Man if Debian never came a long..
[23:06] <BlackDalek> jrib, what do you mean by "cloning the repository"? I read the readme, the packages listed are installed. Where is the debian packaging and how can I build a package?
[23:07] <ShawnRisk> How come when I try to connect to a wireless connection, it says Wireless Connection disconnected?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using a router that is connected to the internet box.  I am guessing this is the router problem as I was able to connect directly to the wireless internet box.
[23:08] <jrib> BlackDalek: git clone https://github.com/akent/python-iview.git
[23:08] <jrib> !source | BlackDalek
[23:09] <lucid> My wireless only connects 20% of the time when I boot up my laptop
[23:09] <lucid> any ideas why?
[23:09] <leones__40> lack of signal?
[23:12] <lucid> nah, signal is fine at the times it does connect
[23:12] <lucid> Tried changing to other driver but nothing changed
[23:12] <lucid> was working perfectly on 11.x
[23:14] <seba_> hello guys
[23:14] <ShawnRisk> lucid: router?
[23:14] <seba_> can you tell me how to turn off autocorrect volume capture ?
[23:14] <lucid> Nothing like that, I know it's something to do with ubuntu.
[23:14] <abhatnag> hey guys, my Rhythmbox crashes with this message on startup: http://fpaste.org/Mvqb/. I couldn't find any appreciable help online. Any help?
[23:14] <abhatnag> This is Ubuntu 12.10 ^
[23:15] <lucid> Shawnrisk: wireless works but I can't seem to find any networks, as if it sleeps and doesnt wake up
[23:15] <ShawnRisk> lucid: can you see networks and wireless on other computers?
[23:15] <lucid> ShawnRisk: Yes, nothing like that, as I said. It's Ubuntu and only Ubuntu.
[23:16] <lucid> I have multiple computers, all of which work fine
[23:16] <lucid> But when it only works some of the time, I get a little confused.
[23:17] <ShawnRisk> lucid: my problem is exactly the same, is your working now?
[23:17] <BlackDalek> jrib, where do I find the file build-depends?
[23:17] <lucid> ShawnRisk: yeah, its working now, so Im able to post any outputs
[23:18] <ShawnRisk> lucid: mine is not working now.
[23:18] <lucid> Basically I have to restart until it works... It's silly haha
[23:18] <ShawnRisk> lucid: that sucks
[23:19] <seba_> i;m sorry..
[23:19] <poz> hello, i forget what the application is that allows one to configure sound options
[23:19] <lucid> uh
[23:19] <lucid> sound
[23:19] <poz> i want to turn off the auto mute
[23:20] <poz> it causes my sound to pop
[23:20] <mrhyde> how to record screen on linux?
[23:21] <poz> never mind. it was called alsamixer
[23:21] <poz> problem solved
[23:21] <mrhyde> i know vlc has a screen recorder but its a more complicated approach
[23:21] <poz> mrhyde, there are a number of them
[23:21] <poz> i played with a few awhile back but forget what it is called
[23:21] <mrhyde> im looking through software center.
[23:22] <poz> try google
[23:22] <poz> gtg though, goodl uck
[23:22] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[23:23] <mrhyde> ubottu: thank you very muchh
[23:23] <mrhyde> i mean OerHeks
[23:23] <ShawnRisk> any help with my question?
[23:23] <dex__> Hi guys need urgent help. I am logged out of my account as soon as I log in??
[23:24] <sevenforall> dex__: No error feedback whatsoever?
[23:24] <bekks> dex__: Try logging in at the console
[23:25] <dex__> sevenforall, : Nope..a black screen blinks but before I read what it shows it disappears
[23:25] <dex__> bekks, : Logging in console? what does that mean? I am able to access the system from guest account
[23:25] <dex__> bekks, : Logging in console? what does that mean? I am able to access the system from guest account
[23:25] <mrhyde> ubuntu has a lot of potential...im a graphic designer who uses mac and if only adobe tools were available for linux, i'd make the switch
[23:26] <sevenforall> For whatever reason, Google Maps (online interface) is very buggy when I'm using Ubuntu. Text fields won't display what I'm typing (although I -am- typing, just blindly), and things that should pop-up either do so half or disappear under other elements. All in all, it's just horrid to work with. Nearly every other site works flawlessly.
[23:26] <bekks> dex__: press ctrl+alt+f1 and try login in into a terminal.
[23:26] <sevenforall> I am using Chromium.
[23:26] <dex__> bekks, : during boot?
[23:26] <bekks> dex__: After boot.
[23:26] <sevenforall> mrhyde: You can try running them in Wine, usually works. And I myself use i.e. GIMP, although that's hard to get used to if you're used to Adobe tools.
[23:27] <dex__> bekks, : Was able to login
[23:27] <dex__> bekks:but its still console..no GUI what seems to be the problem?
[23:28] <bekks> dex__: Then check the free disk space first
[23:28] <dex__> bekks: how to do that? I am pretty sure there is 10 GB of free space at least
[23:28] <bekks> dex__: df -h
[23:29] <BlackDalek> jrib, I ran "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b" and a bunch of stuff happened and I didn't see any errors... some more directories and files were created... Now I am stuck. I tried "sudo dpkg -i pythoniview.deb" and it complains "cannot access archive: No such file or directory"
[23:29] <dex__> bekks, : 4.1 G
[23:30] <bekks> dex__: Next, you could take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.* logs and ~/.xsession-errors
[23:30] <lickalott> guys, how can I "label" a drive so that when I do a blkid it shows up with the name i gave it?
[23:30] <dex__> bekks: sorry bro not much of a tech savys.. Can you give the command
[23:30] <jrib> BlackDalek: it should be one directory up
[23:30] <bekks> lickalott: That depends on the filesystem type.
[23:31] <jrib> BlackDalek: also, that probably isn't what it is named
[23:31] <bekks> dex__: cat filename | more
[23:31] <lickalott> that makes sense...  The reason I'm asking if because I just threw an NTFS drive into my machine and noticed that when i did the blkid it came up with a label
[23:31] <lickalott> all my other drives are ext3
[23:32] <dex__> bekks, : replace file name with/ var/log/Xorg.*logs?
[23:32] <bekks> dex__: Replace it with one of the filenames of /var/log/Xorg.*
[23:35] <ubuntu-studio> Hallo
[23:35] <Nik05> hoi
[23:36] <dex__> bekks, :  Xorg.0.log shows the log but none of the line say error
[23:36] <bekks> dex__: It doesnt need to say error, it may say that something odd happened, etc.
[23:37] <dex__> bekks, :  Xorg.*.log files say that each of them checked fir IR remote receiver..something of that sorts
[23:39] <Guest24515> short question, are in ubuntu 12.10 x64 the graphic driver for AMD/ATI 4870 not in the additional drivers listed?
[23:40] <dex__> bekks, : tried checking the suth.log
[23:40] <dex__> bekks, : tried checking the auth.log
[23:40] <Guest24515> is my text visible?
[23:41] <Jester1> Hi All
[23:41] <dex__> bekks, : it says SUCH_USER, Error message was : No such user
[23:42] <ShawnRisk> How come when I try to connect to a wireless connection, it says Wireless Connection disconnected?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using a router that is connected to the internet box.  I am guessing this is the router problem as I was able to connect directly to the wireless internet box.
[23:42] <dex__> bekks, : and also a lot of things..am unable to type that..is there something specific that I should look to?
[23:42] <bekks> dex__: I cant tell, without seeing the log.
[23:42] <dex__> bekks, : and I had made some changes to sudoers some time before
[23:43] <dex__> bekks:is there a way I can send you the log?
[23:43] <bekks> !paste > dex__
[23:44] <BlackDalek> jrib.... ok, I am not sure which directory I should be in nor which name for "filename.deb" I should use....
[23:44] <dex__> bekks: I know about pastebin but as all of that is on terminal how can i send you without a browser
[23:45] <bekks> !pastebinit > dex__
[23:45] <retromingent> Any recommendations for a flatbed scanner that works best with Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:48] <rpjs> Hi. First time on here.
[23:48] <rpjs> Is this an appropriate place to ask two technical questions about deb-packaging and ppas?
[23:48] <linuxthefish> !ask
[23:48] <linuxthefish> go ahead :D
[23:49] <rpjs> right.:p
[23:50] <rpjs> Here we go: 1) where should a ppa deb install to? (/usr/bin or /usr/local/bin) and 2) how can I include both a upstart and initv script? (./debian/init.rd and ./debian/upstart/name.conf?, haven found any examples of both)
[23:54] <ShawnRisk> any help with my question or should I repost this?
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> rpjs: are you building the deb?
[23:55] <rpjs> jhutchins_wk: yes
[23:55] <dex__> bekks, : command not found
[23:55] <DeSian> Hi, it's any solve for this issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1020374
[23:55] <DeSian> otherwise ubuntu 12.4 work perfect on imac
[23:55] <ShawnRisk> How come when I try to connect to a wireless connection, it says Wireless Connection disconnected?  I am using Ubuntu 12.10. I am using a router that is connected to the internet box.  I am guessing this is the router problem as I was able to connect directly to the wireless internet box.
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> rpjs: Usually the "local" tree is for programs unique to that particular computer, so a distributed .deb probably wouldn't install there.
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> !lfhs
[23:56] <jhutchins_wk> Sigh, gonna have to re-learn the bot.
[23:57] <rpjs> I tohught it was for "not from the distribution's package manager"
[23:57] <dex__> bekks, : are you there? I can send you the file
[23:57] <dex__> bekks, : Made a text file
[23:57] <DeSian> hmmm
[23:57] <bazhang> jhutchins_wk, its fhs
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> bazhang: Needs to be linked.
[23:58] <bekks> dex__: Just use pastebinit please
[23:58] <bazhang> !fhs
[23:58] <dex__> bekks,  two second..rebooting for guest login
[23:59] <BlackDalek> I am stuck... can some help me build a deb package from this - https://github.com/akent/python-iview
[23:59] <DeSian> did anybody fix the issue on mac devices?
[23:59] <rpjs> bazhang: ok, thanks for botifying that. :-)