[03:58] <philipballew> I take that back JoseeAntonioR
[03:59] <philipballew> I'm gonna buy ubuntubysea.com
[03:59] <philipballew> ubuntu pirate edition
[03:59] <philipballew> arg!!!!!!
[03:59] <JoseeAntonioR> philipballew: offtopic here
[04:10] <pleia2> anyone available for summary writing? :) http://bit.ly/vDkJyf
[04:37] <philipballew> pleia2, I can do a few
[04:38]  * philipballew hunts for link
[04:38]  * philipballew needs to make up for accidentally spamming channel.
[04:41] <philipballew> pleia2, any that need to be done more then others?
[04:41] <philipballew> so  I can start there?
[04:52] <pleia2> philipballew: a lot :) start with the planet section perhaps? and 1-3 sentences that are more than just a repeat of the title would be preferable
[04:53] <pleia2> with MX could mention that they also give congratulations to ZA (the point of the LoCo section is to highlight the work of LoCos, so every mention of another team is bonus!)
[04:53] <pleia2> and thank you :)
[04:57] <philipballew> pleia2, alright, just finished Canonical stuff. Yeah. I can do that with za. There are a cool person.
[04:57] <philipballew> *they
[04:58] <philipballew> I'm on that loco pleia2 , so I can write up a few names of the people behind it probably.
[04:58] <pleia2> philipballew: also want to mention who wrote the article :) attribution is important because it makes people feel good to be mentioned
[04:59] <pleia2> philipballew: nah, please don't mention anything that isn't in the article itself, it's not our job to editorialize, just summarize
[04:59] <philipballew> pleia2, Yeah, I know that. :) This is a really short article. kinda odd.
[05:00] <pleia2> the link I give out in the weekly email to summary writes is useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/StyleGuidelines
[05:00] <philipballew> but nobody is mentoned in this one. All the other blogs I saw about it were in Spanish.
[05:01] <pleia2> yeah, but we're only linking to this one
[05:01] <pleia2> if you wish to link to a Spanish article and summarize that one, that's fine :)
[05:01] <pleia2> (just mention that the article itself is in Spanish)
[05:02] <pleia2> add that one as an additional one covering the approval (add the spanish one as an additional link)
[05:02] <philipballew> I'll see if I can grab that after I finish the summaries we already have to write?\
[05:02] <pleia2> ok, so for now just include what's in the article
[05:02]  * philipballew does it
[05:03] <pleia2> oh and in case it's no obvious, the author is Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
[05:03] <pleia2> so you can start the summary with Adolfo Jayme Barrientos writes...
[05:04] <philipballew> ah, alright. Sounds good.
[05:05] <pleia2> I try to mix up intros, "$name writes" "in their recent post, $name writes" "$name reports"... :)
[05:06] <philipballew> I'm not the best writer, but I try.
[05:07] <pleia2> I really appreciate you working on this :) it's 10x easier to edit summaries that are already written than write them all from scratch myself
[05:07] <pleia2> Jasna tends to do the bulk of them these days, but I don't want to burn her out
[05:08] <pleia2> (btw, speaking from experience, writing isn't a gift for most people, it's an acquired skill, you should read my blog posts from 2003 some day)
[05:08]  * pleia2 wants to delete them from her blog, but need for historical record outweighs writing shame)
[05:09] <philipballew> you should not read my blog posts from current day. probably like your blogs then.
[05:09] <philipballew> fyi, nice post on the zoo.
[05:09] <pleia2> thanks :)
[05:10] <pleia2> philipballew: right, for perspective I was 20 in 2003
[05:10]  * philipballew is 20 now
[05:10] <philipballew> there you go I guess.
[05:11] <pleia2> I guess 19/20, but yeat
[05:11] <pleia2> yeah
[05:14] <philipballew> I need to learm pleia2 's skills sooner or later because one day when she goes big and leaves us here I'll need to know what to do.
[05:14] <philipballew> *learn
[05:14] <pleia2> hehe
[05:14] <pleia2> s'right ;)
[05:19] <philipballew> Same goes for the LoCo. One day pleia2 will realize California is boring and leave.
[05:20] <pleia2> haha, I won't leave California, now LoCo politics....
[05:20] <pleia2> the fact that the SV section of our loco switched to meetup.com rather than actually telling the rest of the team when they have events is making me grump
[05:21] <philipballew> SV?
[05:21] <philipballew> You mean Orange County?
[05:21] <pleia2> silicon valley
[05:21] <pleia2> and it's a closed meetup grop, can't see events unless you join
[05:22]  * pleia2 stops now
[05:22] <philipballew> What are you gonna do...
[05:22] <philipballew> :)
[05:22] <pleia2> I've asked them about 6 times to keep us informed with varied "sorry, we'll try!" or just absolute silence, I don't know what to do
[05:23] <philipballew> Can you join the meetup to be able to view?
[05:23] <pleia2> I did, but I don't really have the time to be the one posting all the announcements for them (I've tried keeping up for twitter, but it's hard)
[05:24] <pleia2> I even offered to find them a volunteer to do it (silence on that offer too)
[05:26] <philipballew> Maybe the people are unaware of how to use the LoCo portal
[05:26] <pleia2> they use it sometimes, so the do know how to use it, same with sending a post to the mailing list
[05:27] <philipballew> When me and kevin started the Ubuntu hour in sd, nobody in the ca loco even knew anything about us, or who we were.
[05:27] <pleia2> loco team portal and mailing list are the only things required for an event
[05:27] <pleia2> forums, mentioning it in IRC, etc are all bonus
[05:28] <philipballew> its not that hard to at least tweet about the thing for them.
[05:28] <philipballew> I tweet about my hour and stuff, they could do that or fb
[05:28] <pleia2> it is when I'm super busy and my workflow is that I pull tweets from the loco portal google cal (I get emails the day of from the ical)
[05:28] <pleia2> so now I have to track and ical *and* alerts from the meetup specifically for them
[05:29] <pleia2> this doesn't scale :)
[05:29] <pleia2> so I try, but it's not easy, and we still don't get mailing list alerts, and it doesn't end up on our "events" page for the team, and people subbed to the mailing list don't get to see
[05:29] <pleia2> stopping now for real
[05:29]  * philipballew stops
[05:30] <pleia2> but this kind of thing is what makes me want to quit, not the team or the state :) I love doing events
[05:31] <philipballew> Events are the only thing I really enjoy. I am a people person I think.
[05:31] <philipballew> if you ever need to vent just pleia2  call me and Ill say the occasional "uh huh, that sounds hard."
[05:31] <pleia2> thank you :)
[05:51] <philipballew> pleia2, some of these blogs you really gotta read them.
[05:52] <pleia2> oh?
[05:53] <philipballew> oh? I mean, if its a technical article on something I have no idea about.
[05:54] <pleia2> gotcha, no problem, I'm used to that :)
[08:38] <SilverLion> good morning
[22:49] <HarryLweber> hey Benny
[22:49] <UnderControl> Hiya HarryLweber
[22:49] <HarryLweber> UnderControl: still know me ;) ?
[22:50] <UnderControl> Yep ;)
[22:50] <HarryLweber> how are u doing man?
[22:50] <UnderControl> HarryLweber I'm going good, how about you?
[22:51] <HarryLweber> cant sleep :( so i am playing on php
[22:51] <UnderControl> HarryLweber I'm playing with Python ;)
[22:52] <HarryLweber> i will do that too from dec 25 th on ^^ (working on the ebooks for full circle again
[22:52] <HarryLweber> )
[22:52] <UnderControl> I'm learning it from the full circles articles.
[22:54] <HarryLweber> which part are you on now?
[22:55] <UnderControl> I'm about 1/4 through the first issue (Im learning slowly)
[22:56] <HarryLweber> do you use the special edition i gave you?
[22:56] <UnderControl> Yep
[22:57] <HarryLweber> cool. the first two are available as ebooks now
[22:57] <HarryLweber> working on #3 - 5
[22:57] <UnderControl> Cool, great job :)