[00:01] <rpjs> Only wondering about how I should include a upstart and a initv script in the same package then. I have seen ./debian/init.rd and ./debian/upstart/name.conf. The latter does not appear to do anything when installing my packages, though. I have not found any documentation on it either.
[00:01] <rpjs> Nor whether it is adviceable to include both.
[00:03] <dex__> bekks, : unable to change permissions and hence can not open in guest account
[00:03] <emergency> any one there?
[00:03] <dex__> bekks, : is there an alternative
[00:03] <BlackDalek> I am stuck... can some help me build a deb package from this - https://github.com/akent/python-iview ?
[00:03] <bekks> dex__: Just install pastebinit and use it from a console.
[00:03] <bekks> dex__: And directly pastebinit the logfile, not your textfile.
[00:04] <emergency> can anyone answer how to solve bad sector issue on a windows hard drive through ubuntu and gain access to files.
[00:05] <emergency> im using a live cd on the laptop that is having isues... need to access files before replacing the hard drive
[00:05] <bekks> emergency: There is no way to fdix a bad sector, when it's physically damaged.
[00:05] <dex__> bekks, : thanks just two seconds
[00:05] <emergency> seems that there are 15 bad sectors.. it shouldnt be physical
[00:06] <Gentoon> I hate that my Thumb drive is screwed
[00:06] <Gentoon> I really need something to install Linux onto now that my hdd is dead
[00:06] <emergency> bekks: it appreas to have system files corrupted during an update that didnt go well... then the drive is
[00:06] <Gentoon> I cant think of anything
[00:06] <bekks> emergency: How do you know that they arent damaged physically?
[00:06] <emergency> not mounting through ubuntu
[00:07] <emergency> a physical damage would have a click click repetivie noise... this was definitly from an update gone wrong
[00:07] <timeturner> vmware and ubuntu setup problem
[00:07] <timeturner> how do you guys setup NAT with vmware and a ubuntu virtual machine?
[00:08] <bekks> emergency: No. Totally wrong. A physical damaged may be caused by a head crash, or some other mechanical defect. But it may also be caused by a faulty magnetical coating on the plater.
[00:08] <emergency> I understand that a bad sector can be ignored , but i can not mount or access data from the corrupted hard drive
[00:08] <rpjs> emergency: there is no rule saying a harddrive has to make noises to be physically broken.
[00:08] <bekks> emergency: So there is a faiur chance that your update went wrong because of a physical damage.
[00:08] <compdoc> dont know anything about vmware, but nat is usually a default for qemu-kvm and I think virtualbox
[00:09] <brandx> i have a question i cant find an answer to. some of my windows will open lower than my physical screen and i cant get them to resize to fit. HP mini Ubuntu12.10
[00:09] <BlackDalek> I am stuck... can some help me build a deb package from this - https://github.com/akent/python-iview ?
[00:09] <emergency> ill get to physical damage last resort... i need to know how to access data from it if it is just a software thing
[00:10] <angel56> emergency: your update may have corrupted the directory structure. If linux cannot read the directories it cannot mount the drive
[00:10] <emergency> whats a deb package
[00:10] <emergency> would a data cable be able to mount it
[00:10] <bekks> emergency: First, you need to know wether your drive is damaged physically. Use smartctl and rub a selftest, short AND long.
[00:10] <KI4RO> !deb : emergency
[00:10] <Jordan_U> emergency: It's not just a software problem. Period. Let's get that sorted out now.
[00:10] <bekks> s/rub/run/
[00:11] <KI4RO> !deb | emergency
[00:11] <Jordan_U> emergency: That said, there is software that can help to recover as much of the data as possible from the drive, onto another drive.
[00:11] <emergency> right.. i heard about that
[00:11] <emergency> where can i get smartctl?
[00:11] <brandx> any ideas why my windows will open to large for my screen size and i cant resize them?
[00:12] <emergency> the sector that has warning is id 197
[00:12] <bekks> !smartmon-tools | emergency
[00:12] <emergency> ive done a salf test
[00:12] <Jordan_U> emergency: sudo apt-get install smartmon-tools
[00:13] <emergency> sorry didnt think for a second
[00:13] <Jordan_U> emergency: Do you have a drive large enough to hold a full image of the dying disk?
[00:14] <Ron-> hi, i've a probelm. every time i restart ubuntu the hebrew typing support goes away
[00:14] <emergency> yes,... its nmy girlfiends computer, and she didnt do a back up
[00:14] <brandx> ideas for windows to large for screen size and unable to readjust there size?
[00:14] <emergency> the drive is not physically damaged... test came back okay
[00:15] <dex__> bekks: check out my private msg
[00:15] <Ron-> ?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> emergency: What error did you see that said that you had a bad sector?
[00:15] <bekks> dex__: Please keep it in the channel. Thank you.
[00:16] <dex__> bekks, : Its my security log, can't post it in irc
[00:17] <dex__> bekks, : Thanks
[00:17] <emergency> smart data has 15 bad sectors... comfirmed by terminal code sudo badblocks -b 512 /dev/sda
[00:17] <bekks> emergency: So your drive IS physically damaged.
[00:18] <emergency> how is it so becks?
[00:18] <bekks> emergency: 15 bad blocks.
[00:18] <bekks> emergency: You just said it yourself.
[00:18] <Jordan_U> emergency: I would recommend doing a full disk image using the utility GNU ddrescue, and hopefully you'll be able to mount from that disk image to recover the data.
[00:19] <emergency> a bad block doesnt mean physical.. could be directory error
[00:19] <Jordan_U> emergency: A bad block is by definition a physical problem.
[00:19] <dex__> bekks, :anything useful?
[00:20] <coolball> gweetings webels
[00:20] <Jordan_U> emergency: Directories are at the level of filesystems, which is above the level where you're seeing problems.
[00:20] <bekks> emergency: A bad block displayed by smartctl does mean it is damaged physically, by definition, as Jordan_U just stated.
[00:20] <emergency> then how may i do a system image if its physical?
[00:20] <bekks> dex__: The Xorg.* logs are far more interesting than your auth.log
[00:20] <emergency> you are being awesome...
[00:20] <dex__> bekks:sending you those
[00:21] <bekks> dex__: Please use a pastebin and keep it to the channel :)
[00:21] <Jordan_U> emergency: Because an image can be made of all of the non damaged blocks, and also normally reads are done in large chunks from the disk, where if any part of that chunk is bad the whole read fails. Utilities like ddrescue will carefully use smaller reads to get all of the good data.
[00:22] <emergency> and its an app jordan?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> emergency: Yes.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> emergency: If there are really only 16 bad blocks then it's very possible that all your data is still recoverable, but the drive itself is already toast and will likely just get worse.
[00:22] <TheSarge> So my default Monitor switched itself and now i see no option in Displays to switch it back?
[00:23] <dex__> bekks, :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1458424/
[00:23] <emergency> since its alive cd im using? is the ddrescue online? .... well bekks you win... i dont know how you knew but you did.... and jordan.. awesome
[00:23] <dex__> bekks, :http://paste.ubuntu.com/1458425/             Xlog.1.log
[00:23] <Jordan_U> emergency: If you want an in-depth explanation the ddrescue manual gives a great (though long and technical) one: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[00:25] <rpjs> I found #ubuntu-packaging which is probably better suited for my question.
[00:25] <emergency> okay.. ill get to it
[00:25] <dex__> bekks, : Anything helpful?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> emergency: You can still install GNU ddrescue, from the "gddrescue" package, from Ubuntu Software Center within the LiveCD environment (it will be stored entirely in RAM). You can also of course install it via apt-get, but you'll need to enable the universe repository first (which Software Center should prompt you to do automatically if I recall correctly).
[00:29] <Jordan_U> emergency: I suspect that you'll need help figuring out how to use GNU ddrescue. Tell me when you have it installed, or if you have any problems installing it.
[00:30] <n00bzz> ubuntu 12.1 makes my laptop run extremely hot, how do i find what's causing it? :/
[00:32] <dex__> bekks, : Anything helpful?
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> n00bzz  you mean 12.10, the 10th month of the year
[00:32]  * Myrcia is listening to Gangnam Style (강남스타일) by PSY from Gangnam Style (강남스타일) - Single
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> Myrcia  no sosuch scripts here, please
[00:32] <MonkeyDust> such*
[00:32]  * DaemeonZane shoots PSY in the face
[00:33] <DaemeonZane> :D
[00:33] <n00bzz> yes thanks, MonkeyDust that's what i meant
[00:33] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[00:35] <amarcolino> anyone care to explain or post a link that explain how to get ubuntu sharing files with windows 7, I have setup samba to share my backup folder found in /mnt/backup/windows/backup and it still doesn't show in windows.
[00:35] <TheSarge> How do i set my Primary display in a dual monitor setup/ Its not in "Displays"?
[00:36] <Dieghito> hi everyone!! I have a quick question. I configured my bind9 and my domain but when I make a request to the domain like http://example.com does not work but when I type http://www.example.com works. Can you help me? How can I set that when I receive a request to my domain that works even without subdomains?
[00:37] <n00bzz> thanks OerHeks, but i'm not familiar with terminal yet :P
[00:39] <dex__> bekks, :dude?
[00:40] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I refresh my battery status?
[00:40] <DarkAceLaptop> it only shows how much power I have left once it gets down to 3%
[00:40] <DarkAceLaptop> really really annoying
[00:40] <OerHeks> n00bzz, then turn the machine on, safer for you :P   <-- i don't take you serious
[00:41] <OerHeks> or off whatever
[00:42] <Consty> anyone know how to properly initialize an ipod for rhythmbox?  it will say it detects my ipod and needs to initialize it, but when I type in a name and confirm nothing happens.. it just pops up the same screen whenever I scan for new devices in the app
[00:42] <Jordan_U> OerHeks: Such comments are not acceptable here. Please keep things civil and don't insult people.
[00:42] <n00bzz> OerHeks, i'm just trying to learn
[00:43] <Dieghito> hi everyone!! I have a quick question. I configured my bind9 and my domain but when I make a request to the domain like http://example.com does not work but when I type http://www.example.com works. Can you help me? How can I set that when I receive a request to my domain that works even without subdomains?
[00:43] <bekks> dex__: What about the ~/.xsession-errors from your user - not the guest account?
[00:43] <bazhang> Dieghito, no need to repeat so quickly
[00:43] <Dieghito> bazhang, sorry
[00:44] <dex__> bekks, :not getting the question
[00:44] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I refresh my battery status?
[00:44] <DarkAceLaptop> it only shows how much power I have left once it gets down to 3%
[00:46] <dex__> bekks, :  are you suggesting the Security log>?
[00:54] <TheSarge> How do i set my Primary display in a dual monitor setup/ Its not in "Displays"?
[00:55] <Consty> depends if you have AMD, Nvidia, or Intel graphics card
[00:55] <bekks> dex__: No. I still am suggesting the ~/.xession* log
[00:55] <bekks> dex__: The security log is irrelevant, since you can login using your user on a console.
[00:57] <TheSarge> sudo reboot
[00:57] <TheSarge> oops
[00:58] <TheSarge> So.. does ubunto not use GDM?
[00:58] <TheSarge> What does it use?
[00:58] <merval> not 12.04
[00:58] <bazhang> lightdm
[00:58] <emergency> l,
[00:58] <TheSarge> k
[01:01] <vernon> How do I make a bash script from these commands that I need to run in order to play Minecraft? http://pastebin.com/BR3rx3Cw
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> vernon  better ask in #bash
[01:02] <Consty> MonkeyDust, you're a waste of space
[01:02] <IdleOne> Consty: you're not very helpful or polite.
[01:02] <Consty> vernon, make a new text file and put #!/bin/bash at the beginning of it, then put the two lines after that
[01:02] <Consty> right click the file go to properties
[01:02] <Consty> and allow it to be executed
[01:02] <Consty> done
[01:03] <vernon> Consty: Thank you!!!
[01:03] <IdleOne> Consty: redirecting to #bash was the correct thing to do seeing how this is bash support.
[01:03] <IdleOne> isn't*
[01:03] <gn00bie> question: I have an ubuntu 12.10 on a USB stick, it boots up no problem on my 5 year old laptop (runs ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[01:03] <un2him> gn00bie, what is the ?
[01:03] <Consty> #ubuntu _should_ have a pretty broad support role since bash scripts are an integral part of the system itself
[01:03] <gn00bie> but when I go to the new laptop (Lenovo y580 with Windows 8, UEFI (secure boot disabled)) it does nothing
[01:04] <gn00bie> un2him: thanks for listening, any ideas?
[01:04] <merval> Windows 8 has some weird bios lock
[01:04] <IdleOne> Consty: you may have a point there, but the rudeness of your comment to MonkeyDust was uncalled for.
[01:04] <un2him> gn00bie, i haven't had to mess with UEFI yet, so I'm not sure
[01:04] <Jordan_U> gn00bie: You need to setup the USB drive for booting via UEFI.
[01:04] <brun0> hi all, anybody knows a free private git repository ?
[01:05] <brun0> hi all, anybody know a free private git repository ?
[01:05]  * MonkeyDust is not easily offended, active participant in the lin-win flame wars (among others)
[01:05] <merval> gn00bie: try this http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/11/05/dual-boot-windows-8-and-ubuntu-12-10-on-uefi-hardware/ it may help you out
[01:05] <gn00bie> Jordan_U: OK, that sounds like something I have not done, any pointers?
[01:05] <gn00bie> merval: thanks, let me read it
[01:06] <merval> gn00bie: np
[01:06] <brun0> somebody ?
[01:06] <bazhang> brun0, offtopic here
[01:07] <aller> Hello. What is LTS?
[01:07] <merval> aller: long term support
[01:07] <bazhang> long term support aller
[01:07] <bazhang> 5 years server and desktop
[01:08] <aller> I guess that Ubuntu does new releases, and some of them are marked LTS?
[01:08] <merval> aller: every 4th release is LTS I believe
[01:08] <MonkeyDust> aller  10.04 and 12.04 are LTS, 14.04 will be the next
[01:09] <aller> cool
[01:09] <merval> aller: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#Table_of_versions
[01:09] <gn00bie> merval: the problem is when I put in the 12.10 USB disc and boot up, it does not do anything, I get the lenovo logo, it flashes a few times and that is it.
[01:09] <gn00bie> once I get to what do you want to do, I think I can handle it
[01:09] <merval> gn00bie: have you checked the bios to ensure it's set to boot from USB?
[01:10] <merval> some BIOS have it set to load from DVD/CD then HDD and THEN USB. you might try moving USB to the top of that list
[01:10] <Jordan_U> gn00bie: Do you want to make your current installation booable via UEFI or would making a new installation that is UEFI bootable be fine? Is this a real installation or a LiveUSB?
[01:10] <aller> I'm trying to configure update-manager, to have latest software. So I guess I use "Prompt=normal" in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?
[01:11] <thoonai> hey
[01:11] <merval> aller: usually ubuntu automatically gets the latest versions and prompts for download... are you tyring to do something different?
[01:11] <thoonai> you know a good and working youtube downloader?
[01:11] <bazhang> aller, if on 12.04, then yes,
[01:12] <merval> thoonai: keepvid.com
[01:12] <bazhang> aller, that will make 12.10 visual as an upgrade option
[01:12] <gn00bie> Jordan_U: according to everything I have read, the 12.10 should be bootable with UEFI, all the EUFI related files seem to be in the image
[01:12] <thoonai> merval: thanks, know something for commandline?
[01:12] <aller> merval: I think I want "do-release-upgrade" ?
[01:12] <merval> thoonai: I don't. :-(
[01:13] <gn00bie> Jordan_U: I downloaded the 12.10 x64 image and dded it to the usb drive. It works with 2 other computers I have (older BIOS computers though)
[01:13] <thoonai> someone knows a command line youtube doenloader?
[01:13] <bazhang> youtube-dl thoonai
[01:13] <Jordan_U> gn00bie: It is bootable via UEFI, when burned to a CD. Just not when dd'd to a hard drive.
[01:13] <merval> aller: Ubuntu by default won't notify you of a release until it's stable and ready for release.. what version are you running and what vesion do you want do run?
[01:14] <thoonai> bazhang: youtube is quitting with unexpected error and not working
[01:14] <gn00bie> Jordan_U: ah ok, it seems to be a hair too big to fit on a CD (764 Meg), DVD works as well?
[01:14] <bazhang> then use something gui based, like the firefox plugin
[01:15] <bazhang> gn00bie, yes
[01:15] <thoonai> bazhang: most are simply not working
[01:15] <bazhang> thoonai, they all work here. problem on your ISP connection
[01:15] <Jordan_U> gn00bie: Yes, it needs to be a DVD (I forgot that Ubuntu 12.10 lifted the size limit they used to stick to to allow burning to a CD).
[01:15] <aller> merval: I have 12.04 LTS. I want latest, because network drivers on my Asus 1201N sometimes need reboot
[01:15] <IdleOne> thoonai: the youtube-dl package has been broken since Youtube changed their API. I think you can download an updated version but not sure where
[01:16] <gn00bie> ok so I need a writable DVD, thanks!
[01:16] <IdleOne> thoonai: unless that package in the repos has also been updated, in which case I have no idea
[01:16] <thoonai> IdleOne: I know, bazhang not
[01:16] <mayhew> aller: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/06/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-from-ubuntu-12-04/
[01:16] <thoonai> IdleOne: the repo one isnt working
[01:17] <gn00bie> I was hoping I could use the USB jump drive as the boot medium, but I guess if I need to find a DVD I can
[01:17] <merval> aller: If I'm remembering correctly, and someone might correct me here, the LTS versions ONLY check for LTS releases unless you select to be notified for normal releases.. you can change it pretty easy in the settings of the update manager
[01:17] <thoonai> IdleOne: i try their version from theirs
[01:17] <bazhang> merval, yep
[01:17] <gn00bie> merval: yes, LTS only notifies of LTS and it is easily changed
[01:17] <aller> merval: yeah I can confirm I did this, "Prompt=normal"
[01:17] <joggers> 250-ubuntu-12.10-x86_64_PF
[01:17] <joggers> 250-PIPELINING
[01:17] <joggers> 250-SIZE 10240000
[01:17] <joggers> 250-VRFY
[01:17] <joggers> 250-ETRN
[01:17] <joggers> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
[01:17] <FloodBot1> joggers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:18] <merval> aller: are you running a server or desktop?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> mayhew: aller: That guide is partially wrong and somewhat dangerous. You only need the -d switch to update-manager for upgrading to development releases of Ubuntu.
[01:18] <joggers> does anyone know why im getting that message
[01:18] <joggers> in postfix?
[01:18] <joggers> relay access denied?
[01:18] <bazhang> joggers, no idea
[01:18] <joggers> its not the same login details as root?
[01:18] <merval> aller: forgive... work calls. :-\
[01:18] <bazhang> joggers, use pastebin next time
[01:18] <joggers> someone must of seen this before
[01:19] <IdleOne> thoonai: rub: sudo youtube-dl -U
[01:19] <IdleOne> run*
[01:19] <antiphysicist> hi I have a partition and can't remember if I have ubuntu installed on it how do I check? have windows bootloader with an ubunutu option on it which doesn't work
[01:20] <aller> merval: generic kernel, so apparently desktop
[01:20] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  use a live cd and try to mount the partition.
[01:20] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  winbdows bootloader with a ubuntu optiion - sounds like a WUBI install to me
[01:20] <un2him> antiphysicist, dr_willis is correct
[01:20] <antiphysicist> I made a live usb which works, what do i do when I've mounted it, I don't tihnk its wubi cos then I'd see ubuntu in my c file system?
[01:21] <antiphysicist> there may be remnant of multiple installs etc i probably tried a few things
[01:21] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  you would see some wubi/ubuntu directoriues..  on c:\ somewhere
[01:21] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  use the mount command to mount the filesystem.
[01:21] <joggers>  250 2.1.0 Ok
[01:21] <joggers>  RCPT TO:<>
[01:21] <joggers>  554 5.7.1 <>: Relay access denied
[01:21] <joggers>  RSET
[01:21] <FloodBot1> joggers: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <dr_willis> !mount | antiphysicist
[01:21] <un2him> antiphysicist, are you saying you can boot from the usb ?
[01:21] <joggers> im getting this denied message on postfix
[01:21] <joggers> please someone!!!
[01:21] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | joggers
[01:21] <joggers> what is the default user for postfix
[01:21] <joggers> ?
[01:23] <antiphysicist> ye so I don't have any wubi cos there's no ubuntu files in windows, un2him yes i can boot from a live usb dr_willis  I'll try the mount thing then, thanks a lot!
[01:23] <bazhang> joggers, stop flooding the channel
[01:24] <Jordan_U> antiphysicist: Did you ever have a Wubi install? (or do you not know because this wasn't originally your system?)
[01:24] <dr_willis> !postfix
[01:24] <thoonai> IdleOne: I did update, but still: 'ERROR: unable to download video
[01:25] <IdleOne> thoonai: don't know what else to tell you, sorry.
[01:25] <un2him> antiphysicist, when you are booted into the live environment, you can also use gparted to see your partition layout
[01:25] <amarcolino> anyone care to explain or post a link that explain how to get ubuntu sharing files with windows 7, I have setup samba to share my backup folder found in /mnt/backup/windows/backup and it still doesn't show in windows.
[01:26] <bekks> amarcolino: Can you mount it, regardless wether it shows up or not?
[01:26] <dr_willis> amarcolino:  theres entire books written on samba.  How did you setup the share? I tend to just edit the smb.conf file to share the users homes.
[01:26] <bekks> amarcolino: For showing it up, you need nmbd as well.
[01:26] <dr_willis> amarcolino:  often i have tto type in the server/sharename - share browsing can be brain dead..
[01:26] <antiphysicist> jordan_u un2him I can't remember if i did have wubi, its my system but was years ago, gonna go do the mount thing and gparted thanks for the advice
[01:26] <un2him> antiphysicist, you can also run sudo blkid
[01:26] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[01:29] <merval> aller: sorry for the wait, doing double duty :-P tech support over the phone and support here ;-P if you're using desktop try going into your update manager and see if it's setup to check for non LTS versions. I've not changed that setting via command prompt in ages.
[01:31] <merval> aller: you can also run #do-release-upgrade and that should grab the 12.10
[01:31] <IdleOne> merval: only if the prompt is set to normal
[01:33] <aller> I got it set to normal
[01:33] <aller> doing some apt-get upgrade, then will go for do-release-upgrade -d
[01:34] <merval> IdleOne: My bad.. I haven't manually updated in a long time. not since, 6.04 lol
[01:34] <merval> aller: sweet! glad to hear you got it figured out
[01:34] <merval> IdleOne: err 7.04 >.<
[01:34] <IdleOne> aller: -d might get you 13.04 which is a bad idea if you are coming from 121.04
[01:34] <aller> :] hope it updates kernel, and that Asus 1201N has some realiable wifi driver
[01:34] <IdleOne> 12.04*
[01:35] <merval> aller: the -d forces the latest devel release I believe. might want to leave the -d off there.
[01:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, bit of help patching a file?
[01:37] <amarcolino> dr_willis,  bekks, ok I've finally managed to show it on windows however, I can't seem to login using my ubuntu username and password also I set it up using the samba gui but also checked the snmbd.conf file and it is correct
[01:37] <aller> IdleOne: I'm being little eager for *latest*, just to be sure wifi driver is updated.. I will probably endup in fluxbox, so some consistency problems in high-level Ubuntu desktop-stuff is not problem to me.. If that what is risky in 13.04 ?
[01:37] <bekks> amarcolino: Did you create a smbpasswd file?
[01:38] <merval> aller: 13.04 isn't release ready yet. you will end up with more headaches than anything else
[01:38] <IdleOne> aller: if you want to test 13.04 there is a link in the topic of #ubuntu+1 Try it on USB first.
[01:39] <aller> ok, skip the -d :]
[01:40] <AnthonyUK> im on mythbuntu and trying to connect to in by vnc viewer, i have stoped windows firewall, and have typed "vncserver start" but still i cant log on by vnc. can anyone help
[01:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> is their a channel for gaming on ubuntu?
[01:47] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-steam
[01:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, tech support there? I am trying like hell to use my ps3 pad and it refuses to cooperate.
[01:47] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:  what vnc server are  you using?
[01:48] <AnthonyUK> i dont know it is the one that comes with mythbuntu, you check a checkbox to install vnc server half way through installtion
[01:49] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:   you may want to ask in #mythbuntu then. ive not used that in years. I just use the normal vnc servers like tightvnc, or vnc4server
[01:50] <dr_willis> im not even sure how maintained mythbuntu is these days
[01:50] <AnthonyUK> dr_willis: sorry just checked text now from putty it says "See vnc4server and Xvnc4 manual pages for more information."
[01:50] <dr_willis> mythtv is such a neat idea and project.. but i just had to many issues with it. ;()
[01:50] <mrhyde> is it wise to do updates on ubuntu when virtualizing it on virtualbox?
[01:51] <AnthonyUK> what do you use now dr_willis?
[01:51] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:   you could try just running 'vncserver'  and see if you connect.
[01:51] <AnthonyUK> k think i have done that but will do again
[01:51] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:  the various xbmc type live disrtos on my Raspberry Pi :) so far this week...
[01:51] <dr_willis> I dont record tv any more
[01:52] <dr_willis> between netflix, hulu, and crunchyroll... who needs cable. ;)
[01:52] <AnthonyUK> i typed "vncserver" and it said " Starting applications in /home/mythbuntu/.vnc/xstartup"
[01:53] <AnthonyUK> i typed in the local ip in VNC Viewer and still got the same 10061 error
[01:53] <antiphysicist> hey I went on the live usb installed xchat used gparted mounted the partition to mount now when I go in mount there's what looks like an ubuntu file system but the music, docs etc is empty shall I assume that I have some empty install of ubuntu and just reinstall?
[01:54] <ntzrmtth1hu777> seems so.
[01:55] <ntzrmtth1hu777> damn right dr_willis
[01:56] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:  it dident say what port to use?
[01:56] <Gentoon> ls
[01:57] <dr_willis> File not found....
[01:57] <dr_willis> ;)
[01:57] <AnthonyUK> nope dr_willis
[01:58] <dr_willis> when  i start vncserver here i get somnthing like --->  New 'SSDBuntu:1 (willis)' desktop is SSDBuntu:1
[01:58] <mrhyde> notes isnt preinstalled on ubuntu 12 anymore?
[01:59] <dr_willis> the :1 is the desktop # of the vnc servedr. which is  basicallyy the port #.  the client adds some # to it to get the port,.
[01:59] <dr_willis> if i run vncserver again. i would get a 2nd desktop on :2 and so on...
[02:00] <mrhyde> where can I see all my ubuntu applications
[02:00] <dr_willis> You could check the vncserver logs in .vnc - it may be the server is quiting.
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> oh wait i do see now
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> New 'mythbuntu-MS-7037:2 (mythbuntu)' desktop is mythbuntu-MS-7037:2
[02:00] <dr_willis> notes?
[02:00] <blackshirt> mrhyde, look with dpkg -l
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> so i guess when you asked me to type "vncserver" it created a 2nd
[02:00] <blackshirt> mrhyde, describe your need detaily
[02:00] <AnthonyUK> do i now have 3 desktops running, one of them been the actual desktop of that machine?
[02:00] <dr_willis> mrhyde:  you mean tomboy-notes ?
[02:01] <mrhyde> sorry i just found how, on dash home :)
[02:01] <dr_willis> AnthonyUK:  vnc can share the current visible desktop, or have  hidden desktops.
[02:01] <dr_willis> !manual | mrhyde
[02:01] <dr_willis> Tomboy-notes was such a handy app. ;( it really needed more love and development
[02:02] <mrhyde> wow ubuntu comes preinstalled with transmission bittorrent client....to say the least I'm stunned at how great this free os is.
[02:02] <dr_willis> the reccomended way to get new isos of the latest releases is via torrent. ;)
[02:03] <joggers> sudo vipw
[02:03] <dr_willis> commnand not found
[02:03] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:03] <joggers> hahahahahaha
[02:04] <dr_willis> did you mean.....   try 'sudo apt-get install fortune'
[02:04] <dr_willis> underrated but Such a handy feature
[02:06] <seba_> Hello guys.
[02:06] <seba_> I have a problem with my audio device input.
[02:06] <seba_> when i speak quietly, the volume record raises which makes alot of noise. how do I lock this volume bar on low level?
[02:06] <joggers> 4465420184529568 04/15 767	Mary Renison	2321 State Highway 49	Placerville	California	95667-3309	United states	530 621-3211
[02:07] <joggers> 4465420394438899 02/15 680 Mary Sue Hopkins	4603 Aster Ln	Victoria	Texas	77904-2137	United states	(361) 576-2948
[02:08] <OerHeks> spamming credictcards ?
[02:09] <Gentoon> wtf was that about?
[02:09] <Gentoon> That card worked for me on Brazzers!?
[02:09] <OerHeks> no need for creditcard, ubuntu is free.
[02:26] <RyuGuns> Is it possible to install Ubuntu 12.XX, 11.XX or 10.XX on a MacBook 1,1?
[02:26] <RyuGuns> I can't seem to find it anywhere....
[02:27] <erncic> RyuGuns: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <AnthonyUK> dr_willis and everyone who wants a chuckle: I have just been entering an ip into VNC Viewer, I have now just tried 192.168.0.4:5902 and it has done something
[02:32] <AnthonyUK> all this time i was just entering the ip....
[02:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here can give me a hand installing my ps3 pad via bluetooth?
[02:39] <sherk> hello
[02:39] <Gentoon> Hi
[02:39] <sherk> which is the easiest way for me to set up mysql and php on my ubuntu?
[02:40] <AnthonyUK> hmm when i access the other computer by vnc all i get is a command line window, i dont see the other computers desktop
[02:41] <sherk> Gentoon: do you happen to know?
[02:42] <aknewhope> Hello
[02:43] <aknewhope> Anyone had success installing Ubuntu in bootcamp? (Please don't mention VMware)
[02:43] <Gentoon> sherk: Ubuntu has a LAMP version
[02:43] <puff> So, I added the bumblebee PPA, tried out bumblebee, am now reverting.  Did ppa-purge of the bumblebee PPA and for ten different packages it gave me "Unable to find an archive "precise" for the package "bbswitch-dbus|bumblebee|bumblebee-nvidia|virtualgl|etc".
[02:44] <puff> And then bumblebee was still installed;  when I went to apt-purge bumblee, apt wanted to remove 231 additional packages.
[02:47] <booboo> hello fellow ubuntu users!
[02:49] <erncic> AnthonyUK, I don't know how vnc is set up in mythbuntu, but at the command line window, try 'startx'
[02:51] <AnthonyUK> hi erncic i have just found this guide and it taught me "vncserver -kill :x" http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Configure-the-server/Install-VNC.html
[02:51] <erncic> AnthonyUK, good. glad you are still moving forward.
[02:51] <AnthonyUK> i have just now typed "vncserver -kill :4" "vncserver -kill :3" vncserver -kill :2 and 1 and so on hehe
[02:51] <AnthonyUK> cheers erncic
[02:54] <dartos> What is the name for the mesa packages?
[02:55] <dartos> what are the names rather..
[02:56] <erncic> dartos, mesa-utils ? apt-cache search mesa
[02:56] <dartos> erncic: thats it. thanks
[03:00] <kronik495> hey, im new to ubuntu and im pretty bad with computers apparently. i've been trying to boot ubuntu 12.10 but its not able to install properly
[03:00] <plut0> how do i connect to a remote ubuntu install via ssh? i keep getting permission denied when authenticating
[03:00] <avickery911> Are you booting from an iso image?
[03:01] <maetthew> plut0, ssh username@host.com
[03:01] <kronik495> i downloaded the ISO and then decompressed it to a disc
[03:01] <plut0> maetthew: what username do i use
[03:01] <kronik495> i tried it from a usb first but didnt get too far with that
[03:01] <maetthew> rd?
[03:01] <avickery911> have you installec Open SSH?
[03:01] <kronik495> open ssh?
[03:02] <kronik495> cant say i've heard of it lol
[03:02] <avickery911> sorry that was for plut0
[03:02] <plut0> avickery911: i'm on the installer still
[03:03] <kronik495> wizard tells me to read the wubi log file
[03:03] <avickery911> My first ubuntu experience I used Virtualbox rrom sun and pointed to the iso image
[03:03] <craigbass1976> Caution -- old person alert...  I'm trying to calibrate my joystick, which seems ok in jstest-gtk, but when I fire up Stella to play Combat, I can't turn left.  Any ideas?
[03:03] <plut0> ahh nevermind i got it, the username is installer
[03:04] <avickery911> So you got partially through the install and it failed?
[03:04] <kronik495> yeah, like five times
[03:04] <kronik495> always at the same spot
[03:04] <bitplane> Hi, what's Ubuntu using for thermal throttling / fan control? My system is overheating and I'd like to change the settings
[03:04] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Don't install via Wubi. Uninstall Wubi then install normally.
[03:05] <Abhijit> !fan | bitplane
[03:05] <kronik495> after i disabled nod it got a lot further, but still failed
[03:05] <bitplane> thanks
[03:05] <avickery911> Sou ds like you need a guru. I have never installed rrom USB only rrom image, eight different versions of Ubuntu
[03:05] <kronik495> im just doing what the ubuntu site says to do
[03:06] <kronik495> i unpacked the iso to a disk and ran the installer
[03:06] <avickery911> What OS?
[03:06] <kronik495> it just consistently failed and directs me to wubi
[03:06] <kronik495> im currrently running win 8 -.-
[03:06] <bitplane> Abhijit: does that page load for you?
[03:06] <Jordan_U> kronik495: What page are you referring to?
[03:06] <kronik495> trying to load ubuntu 12.10
[03:07] <avickery911> Will the iso rrom the USB boot to LiveCD mode?
[03:07] <kronik495> Jordan_U: im not entirely sure?
[03:07] <Jordan_U> kronik495: You should either burn the iso file to a DVD and boot from that to run the installer, or use software like Unetbootin to put it properly onto a USB drive and boot from that to run the installer.
[03:07] <Abhijit> bitplane, yes it does. I think you need to logged in to view the page.
[03:08] <kronik495> i have the iso file on disk
[03:08] <bitplane> I get an empty 200 response from squid with a cache miss in the headers
[03:08] <Jordan_U> kronik495: You referenced "the ubuntu site". Can you post the URL of the exact page you're looking at for instructions?
[03:08] <kronik495> ubuntu.com
[03:08] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Do you have a blank DVD?
[03:08] <kronik495> uhm...
[03:08] <Abhijit> bitplane, log in
[03:08] <kronik495> one sec
[03:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a channel like #ubuntu-hardware I can get support on?
[03:09] <kronik495> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-desktop-latest
[03:09] <bitplane> grr I don't have an account
[03:09] <mrhyde> system76 or zareason>
[03:11] <Jordan_U> kronik495: That's odd, because the page you just linked to says nothing about unpacking any files.
[03:11] <kronik495> i couldnt just run the iso as is, my lapy refused
[03:11] <avickery911> Quick question, are you installingUbuntu 12.10 to replace Windows 8, run along side it, or in a virtual machine?
[03:12] <kronik495> i unpacked after reffering to a few of my tech friends that are already runnig ubuntu
[03:12] <Jordan_U> kronik495: You don't "run" an iso. You either burn it to a DVD or you use a utility like unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive from it.
[03:12] <kronik495> for the moment im trying to boot it off disk or usb before i decide to install in paralell
[03:13] <kronik495> i have a boot disk of the iso
[03:13] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Which would you prefer to do, burn it to a DVD or make a bootable USB drive?
[03:13] <kronik495> id prefer to make a bootable usb
[03:13] <avickery911> The hell you can't, how do you think I'm talking to you now.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> kronik495: What OS will you be using to make the bootable USB?
[03:13] <kronik495> win 8
[03:13] <elfer> heh
[03:14] <kronik495> i hate win 8, just to put that out there
[03:14] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Follow these instructions then: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:14] <avickery911> Me too.
[03:15] <Jordan_U> avickery911: kronik495: How much you like or don't like Windows 8 is offtopic to this channel. Please stick to support related discussion.
[03:15] <kronik495> just follow this step by step?
[03:16] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Yes. If you have any questions about any step feel free to ask.
[03:16] <avickery911> I defer to Jordan_U
[03:16] <kronik495> thank you :)
[03:16] <Jordan_U> kronik495: You're welcome :)
[03:17] <emergency> back
[03:18] <Jordan_U> emergency: Have you installed GNU ddrescue?
[03:18] <Moon_Doggy> apache will not DIE
[03:18] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to change unity's alt-tab behavior to be windows style?
[03:19] <Sazpaimon> as in, showing all the actual windows, not grouping them by programs
[03:22] <Moon_Doggy> i've tried "sudo apt-get autoremove apache2" after that i try to install lighttpd and get an error saying it cant bind to 80, "sudo netstat -tulpn| grep :80
[03:22] <Moon_Doggy> " shows apache2 binded to 80, ps aux reveals apache2 twice, killall with pid id says "no process found
[03:22] <Moon_Doggy> "
[03:23] <KsM> killall does not take pids
[03:23] <Moon_Doggy> >.>
[03:23] <DaemonicApathy> killall takes process names
[03:23] <erncic> Moon_Doggy, apt-get remove apache2 or apt-get purge apache2
[03:23] <KsM> use kill for pids, killall for names
[03:23] <kronik495> alright, i have my usb drive set up, wish me luck :)
[03:23] <josefd8> I was wondering, I knew that ubuntu inst allowed to include the restricted extras packages in the main distro because of copyright issues
[03:23] <Moon_Doggy> erncic, tried that, says its not installed
[03:23] <josefd8> but why a distro like linux mint can?
[03:24] <DaemonicApathy> I would imagine Mint inherits quite a lot from Ubuntu.
[03:24] <josefd8> but mint is not tied by the same legal restrictions?
[03:25] <bazhang> !ot | josefd8
[03:25] <Moon_Doggy> thanks DaemonicApathy, KsM, and erncic
[03:25] <Moon_Doggy> killed it
[03:30] <lickalott> gents...  have NFS and samba set up configured similar to previous OS isntall.  I can see the folders but when i put my user info in it tells me it's wrong.
[03:32] <puff> Hm, I seem to recall there's an aptitude option to reconfigure a package... how do you reconfgure X?
[03:33] <Jordan_U> puff: The default configuration for X is to not have any Xorg.conf at all, with everything detected at runtime. So you can rename or delete your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get back to a default configuration.
[03:34] <vlt> puff: dpkg-reconfigure?
[03:35] <puff> Jordan_U: Yeah, bt X is still broekn.
[03:36] <Jordan_U> puff: Use ppa-purge to ensure that all of the packages installed from the ppa are reverted to the stock packages.
[03:36] <puff> Jordan_U: I did... didn't work.
[03:37] <puff> Jordan_U:  See darksleep.com/puff/xorg/external_monitor.log, the bit at the end.
[03:38] <asgard20032> How to make that when i plug a device i take immediately ownership of it?
[03:38] <mrhyde> libreoffice cant write to .doc format?
[03:40] <Jordan_U> mrhyde: It can. Are you having a problem with LibreOffice?
[03:41] <mrhyde> yes i open my job resume which was done on windows microsoft office, try to open and edit with libreoffice in ubuntu and it tells me its read-only
[03:42] <Squarepy> mrhyde, probably a permission thing, libreoffice can handle doc just fine
[03:44] <asgard20032> Because of that ownership problem, whenever i plug a device that was not formatted on that computer, it said it is root owned, but on the computer i formatted it with ubuntu, automaticelly take ownership of it
[03:44] <kronik495> well that didnt get too far, i have the boot drive all set up, but my laptop still wont accept
[03:44] <mrhyde> Squarepy: thank you that is true. instead of saving my document i did open and it was in a tmp folder. im able to edit now :)
[03:45] <kronik495> i think that i just need help troubleshooting :/
[03:46] <Jordan_U> kronik495: What happens when you try to boot from the USB drive?
[03:46] <kronik495> when i restart, im given the option to boot windows or ubuntu, i choose ubuntu and it comes up with an error
[03:47] <kronik495> 00225?
[03:47] <kronik495> its the same issue that i had when trying to boot ubuntu from disk
[03:48] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Could you take a picture of this error with a camera?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | kronik495
[03:48] <kronik495> alright, ill see what i can do?
[03:49] <kronik495> will the prntscrn hold up through booting win8 after the failed boot of ubuntu?
[03:50] <Jordan_U> kronik495: No, printscreen won't work. You'll need to use a camera.
[03:50] <kronik495> well shit.
[03:50] <kronik495> should i just write down the details then? i dont have a camera at my disposal
[03:50] <elfer> pewpewpew
[03:51] <Jordan_U> kronik495: No camera on your cellphone?
[03:51] <kronik495> i have an old nokia still lol
[03:51] <kronik495> play snake like a champ
[03:52] <kronik495> nonetheless, ill be back in a few. ill copy down the important details
[03:53] <Jordan_U> kronik495: That error message  is probably coming from your boot firmware rather than from Ubuntu. If you have the manual for your computer/motherboard it would help to know what error #00225 means.
[03:53] <etzerd> hello all
[03:54] <puff> Ugh... okay, so X is failing to start. Unclear why, it just says "Server terminated successfully (0).  Closing log file."  I am running ubuntu 12.4 on a thinkpad t520 w/optimus.  I was trying to get an external monitor to work.  I added the x-swat PPA and the bumblebee PPA and tried them, no luck.  I have since ppa-purged both PPAs, did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, not sure what else I can do.  It boots, gives me the GUI login sc
[03:54] <puff> I log in, it flashes to a console log for a second then back to the GUI login prompt.]
[03:54] <etzerd> how to increase the font size from 10 to a larger font in ubuntu?
[03:55] <erncic> puff, are you the only user? (Can you try to login as another user?)
[03:55] <puff> Yes, and yes.
[03:55] <etzerd> how to increase the font size from 10 to a larger font in ubuntu?
[03:56] <jcunit> what is the help channel?
[03:56] <erncic> puff, create a new user and see if you can login with that user.
[03:56] <puff> erncic: Well I'll be... dang.  I logged in fine as another user.
[03:57] <erncic> puff, check your .profile files and other . files for some cruft that is giving you a file or path not found when you are trying to login as yourself.
[03:58] <etzerd> how to increase the font size from 10 to a larger font in ubuntu?
[03:58] <jcunit> is this where you can ask for help? or am i mistaken?
[03:58] <puff> erncic: Mucho thanks, but dang this is mystifying.
[03:58] <sfalanga> Please check out our work. "We petition the obama administration to: promote the use of free software in our schools. Libre Office, Gimp, GnuCash and other GPL software which is cost free."  Petition here => wh.gov/Rz6C
[03:58] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Hey I need help with LIghtIRC
[03:59] <sfalanga> Please check out our work. "We petition the obama administration to: promote the use of free software in our schools. Libre Office, Gimp, GnuCash and other GPL software which is cost free."  Petition here => wh.gov/Rz6C
[03:59] <sfalanga> Please check out our work. "We petition the obama administration to: promote the use of free software in our schools. Libre Office, Gimp, GnuCash and other GPL software which is cost free."  Petition here => wh.gov/Rz6C
[03:59] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> whats the correct way to config the config.js
[03:59] <PJSingh5000> jcunit, use a tool like myunity or gnome-tweak-tool
[03:59] <erncic> puff, not really. I think you are getting an error of file or path not found on login, and so it is failing back to the login screen.
[03:59] <PJSingh5000> etzerd, use a tool like myunity or gnome-tweak-tool
[03:59] <kronik495> alright, here's what i have:
[04:00] <kronik495> File : \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[04:00] <kronik495> stat : 0xc0000225
[04:00] <kronik495> required file missing or contails errors
[04:00] <kronik495> contains*
[04:01] <jcunit> vmware says i need to install kernel headers
[04:01] <dcherniv> jcunit, install it then
[04:01] <Jordan_U> kronik495: OK, that's an error from Wubi. Boot Windows and uninstall Wubi.
[04:01] <kronik495> other than that it just tells me to fix windows with a new install disk
[04:01] <jcunit> exactly the reason I'm here.
[04:01] <kronik495> how do i get rid of wubi without getting rid of my entire boot drive?
[04:01] <puff> erncic: Yeah, but AFAIK nothing I've been doing should have monkeyed with that stuff.
[04:02] <puff> erncic: Any idea where that error might be logged?
[04:02] <kronik495> what is wubi anyways? this is all rather new to me
[04:02] <Jordan_U> kronik495: By running the Wubi uninstaller, or using Windows' Add/Remove programs.
[04:02] <jcunit> kronik: boot into GParted, nuke your drive. reinstall using an ISO
[04:02] <JetBoyJetGirl> how many meg flash drive is needed to live boot/install ubuntu?
[04:03] <puff> erncic: Again, many thanks.
[04:03] <jcunit> does someone know how to fix this problem with vmware? it's saying i need to install kernel headers 3.5.0-21-generic.
[04:03] <dcherniv> jcunit, apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:04] <erncic> puff: I am thinking x-swat or bumblee may have dropped something in .xsessionrc, .profile ... see if you got anything in your .xsession-errors ?
[04:04] <Jordan_U> jcunit: Do you need VMware specifically? VirtualBox and KVM are much easier to install.
[04:05] <kronik495> what should i use instead of wubi?
[04:05] <jcunit> thanks dcherniv/
[04:05] <jcunit> that will take forever... slow internet
[04:05] <Jordan_U> kronik495: The normal installer, which you get to by booting from an Ubuntu USB/DVD. We're just getting rid of Wubi first.
[04:05] <dcherniv> jcunit, no problem
[04:06] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Do you understand how to uninstall Wubi now?
[04:06] <jcunit> i've never had this problem with ubuntu before...
[04:06] <kronik495> not entirely. i feel like a moron
[04:06] <Sazpaimon> is there a way to change unity's alt-tab behavior to be windows style?
[04:06] <jcunit> is it specifically with ubuntu 12.10?
[04:08] <kronik495> should i just delete wubi from my boot drive?
[04:08] <kronik495> or is that a bad idea?
[04:08] <Jordan_U> jcunit: No, VMware is a pain to install with any version of Ubuntu. I highly recommend Virtualbox instead.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> kronik495: That is a bad idea.
[04:08] <jcunit> virtualbox gives me an error also
[04:08] <jcunit> and vmware is very easy to install.
[04:08] <JetBoyJetGirl> anyone know how big of a usb is needed typically to live boot/install
[04:09] <JetBoyJetGirl> i have a 1 gigger
[04:09] <Jordan_U> jcunit: What error do you get from Virtualbox and how did you install it?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> JetBoyJetGirl: That's big enough.
[04:09] <jcunit> i installed it through the software center?
[04:09] <jcunit> sorry
[04:09] <JetBoyJetGirl> ok , thanks jordan
[04:09] <jcunit> didn't mean to add a ? there
[04:09] <Jordan_U> kronik495: Do you know how to get to the Add/Remove programs utility in Windows 8? (Unfortunately I don't).
[04:09] <kronik495> yeah i do
[04:10] <jcunit> the error i get is: Kernel driver not installed (rc=1908)
[04:10] <kronik495> but wubi isnt there specificallty
[04:10] <Jordan_U> kronik495: That's odd.
[04:10] <kronik495> little bit
[04:10] <kronik495> the only "wubi" that i have is part of my boot drive
[04:10] <kronik495> came straight from the iso
[04:11] <jcunit> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[04:11] <jcunit> that's what i get
[04:11] <mysteriousdaren> elliot?
[04:12] <My2DippyDogs> elliott is here
[04:12] <My2DippyDogs> it's not "montana"
[04:12] <mysteriousdaren> #ubuntu-montana is the one Im talking about
[04:12] <My2DippyDogs> am i in the wrong room?
[04:12] <mysteriousdaren> ya join that one
[04:13] <Jordan_U> jcunit: Odd. Do you get any output from "sudo modprobe vboxdrv"?
[04:14] <jcunit> let me try it
[04:14] <cakeboss> The world has ended ;_;
[04:14] <puff> erncic: Hm, well,nothing obvious in .profile and I have no .xessionrc in my home directory.  There are some errors in .xession_erors (see darksleep.com/puff/xorg/dotfiles), not sure what's going on though.
[04:15] <jcunit> I get : FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[04:15] <jcunit> from running sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[04:15] <puff> erncic: But the .xsession_errors is timestamped Dec 17 (on my local copy, of course).
[04:16] <Jordan_U> jcunit: What is the output of "uname -r"?
[04:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> are getdeb and playdeb dead or something?
[04:17] <jcunit> i get: 3.5.0-21-generic
[04:18] <Ben64> jcunit: how did you install vbox
[04:18] <OerHeks> ntzrmtthihu777, yes, getdeb is down for some weeks now
[04:19] <erncic> puff: I don't know what it is, but I can tell you for sure it is in your home directory somewhere. The alternate user was the test if it was in a system level file (/etc) or in your home dir.
[04:19] <jcunit> i installed vbox via software system
[04:19] <jcunit> i mean
[04:19] <jcunit> software center
[04:20] <puff> erncic: Yah... gotta just test I guess.
[04:22] <Ben64> jcunit: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep virtualbox"
[04:22] <puff> erncic: Hm... okay, so I checked the datetime and then tried to login as the problme user, and then looked in /var/log for files modified after that datetime check.  auth.log was modified.
[04:23] <erncic> puff: yes, your login was recorded
[04:24] <erncic> puff: running unity, kde, gnome ?
[04:26] <puff> erncic: unity and gnome, and xfce (I like xfce but I tried it with unity).
[04:26] <puff> erncic: see darksleep.com/puff/xorg/auth.log_excerpt
[04:27] <puff> erncic: It's complaining about:  requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "puff"
[04:30] <puff> erncic: /var/log/syslog and some stuff in /var/log/lightdm wrere also modified at the same time, but no errors I can see.  Just uploaded them to puff/xorg/syslog and puff/xorg/lightdm
[04:32] <puff> erncic: What's weird is I'm entering the password to login, but it's complaining about nowpasswdlogin
[04:33] <puff> erncic:  Thanks for the help, at least I know where to look now.  Think I'm going to call it a night.
[04:34] <erncic> puff: glad I could help narrow it a bit for you.
[04:39] <chadoh> hello. trying out weechat from an Ubuntu server EC2 instance from inside tmux. tmux and weechat disagree on scrolling particulars, it seems.
[04:41] <kenta> @chadoh The IRC client irssi is interoperable with tmux, if that helps :)
[04:43] <chadoh> @kenta Thanks. I tried that first, but it seemed like it was having scrolling difficulties, too. I'll give it another go.
[04:46] <kenta> @chadoh Hmm, are you running inside of X? If so, what terminal emulator are your using? Could you describe the nature of the scrolling issue?
[04:49] <belgianguy> is it possible to boot Ubuntu on a 6yr old Macbook?
[04:50] <belgianguy> I'm not accustomed to Apple HW, but some tearful chick ran up to me and I'd say I'd have a look at it
[04:51] <belgianguy> I'm already the Mayor of the Friendzone, so there's nothing in it for me except knowledge
[04:53] <chadoh> @kenta You know, I'm not even sure about X. My local machine is a Mac. The EC2 server I'm `ssh`ed into is running (GUIless) Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS.
[04:54] <alusion__> hey
[04:56] <chadoh> @kenta You can see a screenshot of my weechat/tmux weirdness here: http://cl.ly/LlH5
[04:57] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  there should be some macbook info in the forums or on the askubuntu.com site.
[04:58] <belgianguy> dr_willis: ah, thanks, then I should be okay
[04:59] <belgianguy> I have Ubuntu as my main OS, and was hoping I could boot into a live CD, rescue her files and live happily ever after ;)
[05:01] <CavalierPrime> mount -t hfsplus whatever should work
[05:01] <dr_willis> belgianguy: macs are supposed to be able to boot from a 2nd mac ;) or so ive heard. if you got them plugged together right.
[05:02] <dr_willis> belgianguy:   the mac channels may know of some other mac rescue type cds
[05:02] <belgianguy> dr_willis: ah, thanks, yeah I asked her about architecture and all she could say was "it's a Mac"
[05:02] <CavalierPrime> belgianguy mount -t hfsplus
[05:03] <belgianguy> CavalierPrime: will keep that in mind, thanks
[05:03] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  if its a PPC mac.. well.. good luck
[05:03] <belgianguy> dr_willis: iirc, there used to be community versions for those architectures as well
[05:03] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  i 'tried' to use ppc ubuntu on a mac.. ;)  it was painfull
[05:04] <belgianguy> dr_willis: oh, so the "insert cd and it just boots might not happen?"
[05:05] <dr_willis> belgianguy:  it might be easier to remove the HD and plug it into a USB enclosure and read it on a normal PC ;)
[05:05] <dr_willis> good luck
[05:06] <belgianguy> dr_willis: yeah, that was the initial idea, but aren't Macs glued together to prevent such actions,
[05:06] <belgianguy> ?*
[05:06] <dr_willis> depends on the mac.
[05:06] <belgianguy> she said it was 6 years old
[05:06] <dr_willis> that means very little. :) she could off by 3 years...
[05:06] <dr_willis> or moar.
[05:07] <belgianguy> dr_willis: true :) I guess I'll have to wait and see ;) thanks for the heads up though
[05:08] <dr_willis> I got a Universial USB hard drive adaptor - it does SATA, laptop sized IDE and normal sized IDE with a Power supply. for $25. Paied for its self several times over from me recovering files from friends HDs..
[05:10] <belgianguy> dr_willis: yeah, I hope Macs aren't using torque screws, or I'd be in trouble
[05:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> is happypenguin.org dead or something?
[05:12] <belgianguy> but thanks for the helpful hints, I am off to bed now, it 6:11 am
[05:13] <Tex_Nick> ntzrmtthihu777 : happypenguin.org seems to be offline
[05:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn. same for playdeb and getdeb too, it seems
[05:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> 今日は。
[05:23] <microcode> http://blog.chriszacharias.com/page-weight-matters
[05:24] <Jordan_U> microcode: Please don't post spam in this channel.
[05:26] <microcode> Jordan_U: please don't pretend that there's anything happening in this channel
[05:27] <microcode> ntzrmtthihu777: 今晩は
[05:27] <Jordan_U> microcode: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Posting links to random sites is likely to get you banned for spamming.
[05:40] <ccbn> I'm looking for a soundcard that is compatible with 12.04 and has optical out. I'm going to hook it up to a 7.1 receiver, but im not sure if that implies I should get a 7.1 channel card since I'm just using the optical output.
[05:40] <keber> do you know how many times eats one testicle man from apple? 29 times
[05:42] <elky> keber, that's not appropriate
[05:44] <Knuckle> ha!
[05:44] <Knuckle> he said tickle
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> does anyone know any a utility that can monitor/report the amount of data a usb device is putting on the usb bus?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> SolarisBoy: Is there a particular reason you want to know this information?
[05:49] <lickalott_> guys, just realized I got a 64bit ver of 12.10 (server ed.) but need the libs from 32bit to run stuff.  is there an easy way to do this?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> lickalott_: Yes.
[05:50] <Jordan_U> lickalott_: What are you actually trying to install?
[05:50] <lickalott_> some eggdrops and wraiths
[05:50] <lickalott_> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ??
[05:51] <Jordan_U> lickalott_: eggdrop is 64 bit and packaged for Ubuntu.
[05:52] <lickalott_> i have to recompile the eggys' to get them to work.
[05:52] <lickalott_> the wraiths are a no go without the 32bit libs
[05:52] <lickalott_> will that command get me what I want?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> lickalott_: Figure out all of the dependencies for whatever you're installing, and install the 32 bit versions of those packages.
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: yes
[05:54] <lickalott_> k
[05:54] <Jordan_U> SolarisBoy: What reason?
[05:54] <lickalott_> tks
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: im developing a kiosk type system based on ubuntu current LTS - it's in short specialize in recording video sessions, there would be 1 or more cameras plugged in - maybe 3 - however im running into problems... is that enough or should i provide more?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> SolarisBoy: I don't know if I can help you or not, but giving more information can't hurt and may get someone else to chime in.
[05:57] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: ok
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: ok the basic run down is that im recording streams with ffmpeg from the cameras found on the system , the ffmpeg options are built up based on the camera (object) attributes returned from various v4l2-* calls, at run time the highest resolution is chosen that the camera supports and it will attempt to use the compressed format if supported.
[06:00] <Guest17593> DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[06:00] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: problem now is when we get to 2+ cameras only resolution of 300x300 seems possible
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: anything higher and each ffmpeg process after the first. dies with "device is full" in referecen to the USB bus
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> however online i see multiple reference too - quirks=128 on uvcvideo and that it's just the way that the devices are being read - so long story short the people buying this - will need an explanation as to why extra usb cards are a requirement =)
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> Jordan_U: i figured if i had a tool like that it wouldn't be hard
[06:03] <Sail> how to make my apache web server live on internet?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | Sail
[06:05] <Sail> ubottu: yea i know tht i am litle screwed so please dont irritate me more
[06:05] <Sail> anyone know how to make apache web server live on internet
[06:07] <Mechdave> Sail, you need to open port 80 on your router
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> is there anyway to tell what options a driver is loaded with? like to see if something you added in /etc/modprobe.d/uvcvideo.conf is loaded with the specified options? (post rmmod && modprobe uvcvideo)
[06:07] <Sail> Mechdave: i already did that but its not working
[06:07] <Mechdave> Sail, did you forward all traffic destined for port 80 to your server box?
[06:08] <Sail> whenever i open my external ip address in browser it linked me my default router page
[06:08] <Sail> server box?
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> Sail: you need to port forward not open the routers port 80
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> Sail: look for the option for "port forwarding"
[06:09] <SolarisBoy> Sail: and then set a port for the router to "accept" and configure to point to the internal ip:port of the webserver thats accessible behind the routers NAT
[06:09] <SolarisBoy> Sail: multiple how-to's online per router - use google
[06:09] <Mechdave> Sail, Also you need to log out of the root account and not run your IRC program as sudo... It opens up a massive hole in your security!
[06:09] <SolarisBoy> word
[06:09] <Sail> ok my router is dlink dsl-2730u  thn i go to NAT in here i goto virtual server where i set my port 80 to http service
[06:09] <penguinman> Sail: having your router's config page open to the internet is also a major security risk.
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> yes it is..
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> especially with your reverse ip posted..
[06:10] <Mechdave> Sail, You also need to tell the router what ip address the server is on
[06:11] <Sail> Mechdave: i set it to my ipaddress
[06:11] <Mechdave> SolarisBoy, It is ok, Sail's router is not open to the internet... I checked :)
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> haha - naughty
[06:12] <penguinman> i've been known to run irc as root, but that's when I'm on my backtrack vm :)
[06:13] <Mechdave> SolarisBoy, When he said he was having trouble with his server naturally I checked his ip to see if it worked :)
[06:13] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[06:14] <Mechdave> Where did he go?
[06:16] <Tex_Nick> SolarisBoy : RE ; USB Bus sniffing ... see if this helps http://biot.com/blog/usb-sniffing-on-linux
[06:17] <SolarisBoy> Tex_Nick: Thanks!!
[06:17] <Tex_Nick> SolarisBoy : np hope it points ya in a good direction
[06:17] <SolarisBoy> me too - much appreciated
[06:28] <yeahman> Hi, i bought my computer with ubuntu 12.04, how much do I have to pay to upgrade it to 12.10?
[06:29] <Tex_Nick> yeahman : nothing :-)
[06:29] <yeahman> Where can I buy it
[06:30] <aeon-ltd> you don;t
[06:30] <Tex_Nick> yeahman : www.ubuntu.com ... you can download the upgrade from there for free
[06:30] <yeahman> Niiiceee
[06:30] <aeon-ltd> yeahman: it's FOSS free open source software
[06:30] <yeahman> I think I like this
[06:30] <yeahman> Thanks
[06:31] <Jordan_U> yeahman: Ubuntu is Free software. That means that costs no money (and never will) and it also means that it is Free as in freedom.
[06:31] <Anom01y> hey does anyone know about Acer EEEPC's ?
[06:31] <Tex_Nick> yeahman : you'll need to choose from 64 or 32 bit platform
[06:31] <bazhang> Anom01y, ##hardware
[06:31] <Anom01y> It used to have Ubuntu 10.04 on it, everything worked perfect, I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04, and now the SD cards don't work
[06:31] <Anom01y> SD card reader on the side of the laptop
[06:31] <yeahman> I've heard that linux is for programmers only, is that true?
[06:31] <bazhang> Anom01y, what happens when you plug it in
[06:32] <bazhang> !ot | yeahman
[06:32] <Anom01y> nothing, ubuntu does not detect anything is plugged in,
[06:32] <Anom01y> bazhang, I've tried Gparted,
[06:32] <bazhang> Anom01y, what about dmesg
[06:32] <yeahman> Okay bazhang
[06:32] <Anom01y> I will try
[06:33] <Anom01y> Anom01y, I will have to get back to you on this because my Wife is in the middle of a movie with it
[06:34] <Tex_Nick> bazhang : out of curosity ... is an ubuntu upgrade not a support issue ;-)
[06:34] <bazhang> ok
[06:34] <Anom01y> bazhang,  I mean,
[06:34] <bazhang> Tex_Nick, asking generic questions about linux being only for programming is
[06:38] <SolarisBoy> Tex_Nick: if your interested and i may be reaching but i found something pretty interesting in regards to my issue: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f25/solved-usb-bandwidth-exceeded-webcam-help-575283.html .. sure it's some hacky old thread but it actually does make sense - and now that i think of it - i have a load o usb devices plugged in here
[06:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> exit
[06:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> oops
[06:40] <Tex_Nick> SolarisBoy : i was interested in your requirements ... it would be useful for a number of needs ... thanks
[06:44] <plut0> why can't i reinstall grub inside a chroot? /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[06:45] <Guest92265> isn't g++ included by default in ubuntu 12.10?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> plut0: Did you bind mount /dev/ /proc/ and /sys/ within the chroot?
[06:45] <plut0> Jordan_U: sure did
[06:46] <Jordan_U> plut0: Please post the exact grub-install command you're using and the contents of /proc/mounts.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> plut0: (using pastebin for the /proc/mounts contents)
[06:47] <plut0> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/xwXGgXyE
[06:47] <plut0> Jordan_U: none of the grub commands seem to work, same error
[06:49] <Jordan_U> plut0: Where are you trying to chroot into?
[06:49] <plut0> Jordan_U: the ubuntu install
[06:49] <dr_willis> after you chroot - see whats in /dev/
[06:49] <plut0> lots of stuff in /dev
[06:49] <penguinman> Guest92265: i'm not sure actually. I always install build-essential automatically on a fresh install of anything with a buntu backend.
[06:49] <Jordan_U> plut0: Which is mounted where?
[06:50] <plut0> Jordan_U: /rpool/kvm01
[06:51] <Jordan_U> plut0: Your /proc/mounts doesn't mention /rpool/kvm01 at all.
[06:52] <plut0> i see it in there
[06:52] <SolarisBoy> Tex_Nick: np - still looking for that power adapter for my usb hub to test ;>
[06:53] <Jordan_U> plut0: It's not in your pastebin link.
[06:53] <SolarisBoy> zfs?
[06:53] <Guest92265> penguinman: i cant even install g++ manually. It says i have unmet dependencies
[06:53] <plut0> Jordan_U: yes it is, zfs
[06:55] <Jordan_U> plut0: /rpool/kvm01 is not mentioned in your /proc/mounts. That may be because of the way that zfs filesystem/subvolume/whatever mounts are handled, but it's not there.
[06:55] <vivid> Guest92265: perhaps if you provide the terminal output of your attempt to install g++, suggestions for resolution can be made
[06:56] <Tex_Nick> SolarisBoy : if you need external power for your devices ... NewEgg is a great resource ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=usb+hub+power&x=0&y=0
[06:57] <SolarisBoy> Tex_Nick: thanks
[06:57] <Jordan_U> plut0: Ahh, I was expecting the contents of /proc/mounts from outside the chroot.
[06:57] <SolarisBoy> i actually have a cool d-link usb hub which i am just now noticing (so dull) is externally powered (optionally) and i just never plugged it into the power jack
[06:58] <Jordan_U> plut0: What version of grub is this ( "grub-install --version" )?
[06:58] <SolarisBoy> now - the mission is - finding my power adapter which i no dought tossed into the depths of my bedroom - somewhere...
[07:17] <gogeta> Wake up
[07:18] <Noskcaj> gogeta, no
[07:18] <gogeta> Lol
[07:31] <jennie> my ubuntu is 1204 , how can I upgrade to latest one without formatting ?
[07:32] <Snowie> hi all. Im sure this has been asked here before. Steam for linux. at card. i cant find the fglrx-experimental-X driver anywhere. 12.04. any advice?
[07:32] <Noskcaj> jennie, no formatting s involed, just click upgrade to 12.10
[07:32] <dr_willis> !steam
[07:32] <jennie> Snowie I also have the same problem ,  you better upgarde to 1210
[07:33] <Snowie> REally!!!!
[07:33] <Snowie> *sigh*
[07:33] <jennie> thats why I am upgrading, its the 1204 xserver issure
[07:33] <Noskcaj> or type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:33] <Snowie> Noskcaj, jsut noticed i cant add friends in the client either. must be broked
[07:34] <jennie> yes, sudo apt- get dist-upgrade is cool
[07:34] <jennie> how long it will take ?
[07:34] <Noskcaj> 1 hour probs
[07:34] <jennie> and the crash messgae which appears in ubuntu 1204 will also disappear ?
[07:37] <Snowie> wth. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.?????
[07:45] <somsip> [chrome
[07:45] <Z`> Hi people. I'm on 12.04LTS. After doing an upgrade/reboot, I no longer have sound. How to debug it ?
[07:46] <aeon-ltd> Z`: is it muted in alsamixer?
[07:47] <Z`> aeon-ltd, nop, checked that (typing alsamixer in console and looking for 'MM')
[07:48] <aeon-ltd> Z`: what was in the update?
[07:49] <Z`> I can't remember :( But it must have been something minor
[07:49] <plut0> Jordan_U: you still awake?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> plut0: Barely :)
[07:49] <plut0> Jordan_U: what did you want to know now?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> plut0: grub-install --version
[07:49] <plut0> 1.99-21ubuntu3.4
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> Z`: ok then, we'll just check basic stuff. is your source good? are headphones plugged in?
[07:51]  * Tex_Nick thinks Jordan_U spends about 26 hours a day helping people ;)
[07:51] <Jordan_U> plut0: For zfs support it's probably best to use grub 2.00. Have you actually succeeded in using grub-install with this configuration from the booted system rather than from a chroot? If not, then my guess is that it's a zfs specific problem rather than a problem with doing it in a chroot.
[07:52] <Z`> aeon-ltd, all good. I'll try a reboot :\
[07:52] <plut0> what does grub-probe check for device path?
[07:55] <Jordan_U> plut0: For most filesystems /proc/self/mountinfo , for zfs I believe various functions from libzfs are used.
[07:56] <picstand> can anyone explain me what this sentence mean. I have tried copying everything everywhere, but cryopid just won't compile "Before compiling you *MUST* make sure that the header files for the version of
[07:56] <picstand> Linux you are using are copied or linked into /usr/include"
[07:57] <picstand> ?
[07:58] <plut0> how do i tell apt-get to ignore packages to be removed?
[07:59] <helmut_> hi
[07:59] <dcherniv> picstand, usually means that appropriate header package needs to be installed
[07:59] <dcherniv> picasso, ie linux-headers-<YOURKERNEL>
[08:01] <picstand> see that's what I thought, I took the linux-header.... from /usr/src and copied it to /usr/include and when I try to compile it still cant file the user.h
[08:01] <picstand> let em try again
[08:02] <plut0> i have a package set to be removed, how do i set it not to remove anymore?
[08:05] <Jordan_U> plut0: What symptoms are you seeing? If a package has started the process of being removed you really should let it be removed then just re-install it. If you're seeing that something needs to be removed for you to install another package then there are some dependency issues.
[08:05] <plut0> Jordan_U: old linux kernel is set to be removed, it always fails because grub is failing
[08:06] <plut0> Jordan_U: i need to upgrade grub to v2 but i'm stuck in a circular dependency hell now
[08:07] <tomreyn> using dpkg directly, if (really) necessary with --force* options, can help there most of the time.
[08:08] <Jordan_U> plut0: sudo mv /usr/sbin/update-grub{,-backup} && sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/update-grub
[08:08] <Jordan_U> plut0: I'm going to assume that you understand what that does, and how to revert it. If not, say so and I'll explain.
[08:09] <plut0> yeah i understand
[08:09] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> anyone config'd lightIRC here?
[08:10] <tomreyn> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: i think that's off-topic here
[08:10] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> but..
[08:10] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> its running on ubuntu
[08:10] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> :P
[08:10] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ;)
[08:11] <tomreyn> glad you got the message ;)
[08:11] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol
[08:13] <MyTh88> anybody ideas on  how to get to work either atheros AR8161 or broadcom BCM4313 without any connection on ubuntu fresh install?
[08:14] <tomreyn> MyTh88: Download what's missing to make it work either via ethernet or using another computer, then put it on a USB key.
[08:15] <MyTh88> one is ethernet one is wifi, no one working :/
[08:15] <tomreyn> oh the bcm is a nic
[08:15] <MyTh88> i'll try downloading on another machine ;)
[08:16] <tomreyn> that'S sad hardware choices
[08:16] <MyTh88> brandnew lenovo n581 notebook ;)
[08:17] <MyTh88> i'll try later, thanks for now! :)
[08:17] <tomreyn> ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[08:17] <MyTh88> 12.10
[08:17] <tomreyn> ok, ttyl
[08:19] <computer> what is the name of ubuntu 12.04?
[08:19] <computer> or version name that is
[08:20] <tomreyn> !12.04 | computer
[08:21] <computer> so its "Precise Pangolin"
[08:21] <computer> ?
[08:21] <tomreyn> exactly
[08:21] <computer> k thnx
[08:22] <computer> which one is karmic?
[08:22] <echo_> hi
[08:23] <tomreyn> !karmic | computer
[08:23] <computer> hi
[08:23] <tomreyn> hi echo_
[08:23] <computer> thanks again
[08:23] <echo_> thanks again
[08:23] <tomreyn> you're welcome computer
[08:23] <Tex_Nick> computer : to see what you are currently running ... in terminal type lsb_release -a
[08:24] <computer> im using Zorin OS ubuntu based 12.04
[08:24] <Tex_Nick> computer : wikipedia has a rather good article regarding ubuntu versions ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[08:25] <Jordan_U> !derivatives | computer
[08:26] <computer>  #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned) ?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> computer: Please join #ubuntu-ops and we can figure out why you're banned from #ubuntu-offtopic.
[08:29] <Mongolski> hej
[08:29] <echo_> lsb_
[08:32] <tomreyn> hi Mongolski
[08:33] <jesse__> Hello.  I recently installed Ubuntu 12.10.  Everything worked just great, but now my sound isnt working (it did before).  The only major thing I did since the sound stopped was install E17 (Enlightenment Window Manager) which i then removed.  Does anyone know what the problem might be?
[08:34] <computer> !sound
[08:34] <jesse__> thanks. i'll give it a look
[08:35] <jesse__> and that worked.  thanks
[08:38] <plut0> Jordan_U: why am i getting this error? http://pastebin.com/LAUTcZat
[08:39] <Jordan_U> plut0: Are you running that within the chroot?
[08:39] <plut0> Jordan_U: yes
[08:41] <plut0> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[08:44] <Jordan_U> plut0: The problem is probably somehow due to you running this from a chroot from a liveCD since aufs is from the liveCD environment. I don't know if it's the same problem that grub is having. This error is coming from code not related to grub, but is also code trying to get information about the root filesystem.
[08:44] <plut0> Jordan_U: shouldn't it read from /etc/mtab and not /proc/mounts ?
[08:46] <pigload> my xchat under gnome is unable to private message help pls
[08:49] <Jordan_U> plut0: Definitely not. /etc/mtab is unreliable as it needs to be updated from userspace (and might be on a read-only filesystem), doesn't reflect the current context (/proc/self/mountinfo which will give correct information inside and outside of chroots among other things).
[08:49] <plut0> i suspect its reading /proc/mounts though
[08:50] <bonhoeffer> how do i see usb devices connected to ubuntu?
[08:50] <auronandace> bonhoeffer: lsusb
[08:50] <daftykins> lsusb
[08:50] <daftykins> in a terminal
[08:51] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[08:52] <bonhoeffer> so i need to update: serial_device = /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:52] <bonhoeffer> i think the device i need is: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0fcf:1004 Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
[08:53] <bonhoeffer> i have crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 188, 0 Dec 23 02:40 ttyUSB0 in /dev
[08:54] <bonhoeffer> i'm not even sure what the /dev/ttyUSB0 file is, but how can i see if it refers to Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0fcf:1004
[08:55] <Jordan_U> plut0: It's /proc/self/mountinfo (along with other methods) http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/lh/grub/trunk/grub/annotate/head:/util/getroot.c
[08:55] <auronandace> bonhoeffer: watch dmesg while you plug usb devices in
[08:55] <plut0> Jordan_U: i'm checking update-initramfs with strace, seems to be checking out /proc/mounts which is wrong for a chroot
[08:56] <bonhoeffer> auronandace, got it
[08:57] <Jordan_U> plut0: Sorry, I forgot we were talking about update-initramfs. I think I need to get to sleep as my dead is thorouly brain.
[09:02] <fleixius_> Would having both nvidia and ati drivers installed cause conflicts with GLX
[09:02] <auronandace> fleixius_: why would you have both installed?
[09:02] <auronandace> fleixius_: i assume it would yes
[09:02] <fleixius_> auronandace, thin client image with multiple hardware vendors.
[09:03] <fleixius_> The kernel modules load fine and work, however GLX will load only for the driver that was last installed.
[09:06] <zamba> what CLI mail program do you guys use these days?
[09:06] <zamba> mutt? pine?
[09:09] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi. mozilla thunderbird is a good eml client
[09:10] <MonkWitDaFunk> it comes shipped with ubuntu 11.10 released on oct 2011
[09:10] <Noskcaj> zamba, why cli?
[09:10] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: thunderbird is gui, not cli
[09:11] <auronandace> MonkeyDust: sorry, wrong nick
[09:11] <zamba> Noskcaj: because i want one for the cli?
[09:11] <auronandace> MonkWitDaFunk: thunderbird is gui not cli
[09:12] <fleixius_> who reads cli mail anymore..
[09:12] <MonkWitDaFunk> i have vague memories of doing cli email
[09:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> what kind of format is cli email?
[09:22] <MonkWitDaFunk> is it utf-8 for someone like.me?
[09:22] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:23] <cristian_c> I'm looking for files which contain info on the multimedia keys on gnome 2
[09:23] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi ubuntu
[09:23] <cristian_c> I'm looking for info about commands executed from the multimedia keys
[09:23] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:24] <MonkWitDaFunk> drivers
[09:25] <MonkWitDaFunk> make them maybe? or pay for them?
[09:26] <tomreyn> cristian_c: what do you mean by "multimedia keys"?
[09:26] <cristian_c> tomreyn, fn+f1, fn+f2, ...
[09:26] <tomreyn> oh those.
[09:27] <tomreyn> should be handled by xkb, i guess
[09:27] <MonkWitDaFunk> oh wow its ubuntu
[09:27] <daftykins> inorite
[09:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> whats xkb?
[09:29] <tomreyn> the X Keyboard Extension
[09:29] <cristian_c> tomreyn, I'm watching :)
[09:30] <cristian_c> tomreyn, can you post me an example file? :)
[09:30] <cristian_c> from yout system
[09:30] <cristian_c> *your
[09:30] <cristian_c> I'm looking at the documentation
[09:32] <tomreyn> !mediakeys  | cristian_c
[09:34] <cristian_c> tomreyn, what are the configuration files involved?
[09:34] <tomreyn> cristian_c: i wouldn't know, and i may have been wrong about xkb
[09:35] <cristian_c> tomreyn, can you check it? :)
[09:35] <tomreyn> cristian_c: i'd prefer you to read the linked documentation first
[09:36] <cristian_c> tomreyn, I can't find an example :)
[09:37] <tomreyn> it's well possible this configuration is not actually stored in a flat text configuration file but in the gnome configuration database or similar
[09:38] <cristian_c> tomreyn, ok, but I don't know where :)
[09:38] <tomreyn> just like me
[09:39] <blackshirt> you can use dconf-editor
[09:39] <tomreyn> dconf-editor -> org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys seem to be the location
[09:40] <tomreyn> (when using gnome, that is)
[09:40] <cristian_c> tomreyn, ok, I've tried with gconf-editor
[09:41] <cristian_c> *already tried
[09:41] <cristian_c> tomreyn, I'll try with dconf-editor
[09:44] <Gentoon> How can I see a continuous dmesg?
[09:44] <somsip>  ,///.//9~ nmnbbcxsdxzwwee5tgr58iu8-p-=[]\=]-p0i90o-87834r32121`12~1~~~~7~8~99~0-~
[09:44] <daftykins> watch dmesg
[09:44] <somsip> \
[09:44] <daftykins> @ Gentoon
[09:45] <Gentoon> daftykins: ?
[09:45] <cristian_c> Gentoon, dmesg | more
[09:45] <blackshirt> gentoon, pipe it with less or more
[09:45] <Gentoon> aww
[09:45] <Gentoon> Thx
[09:46] <bartzy> For a laptop - What java version should I install ?
[09:46] <bartzy> openjdk 7 ?
[09:46] <bartzy> i.e. -  openjdk-7-jre  ?
[09:47] <Gentoon> [47093.726633] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[09:47] <Gentoon> Bad flash drive?
[09:47] <Gentoon> :(
[09:47] <daftykins> Gentoon: changed ports?
[09:48] <Gentoon> daftykins: Oh wait that was from before istarted writting to the drive
[09:48] <Gentoon> I am just having weird issues when i install Ubuntu to this flash drive
[09:48] <varikonniemi> i try to get audio from my logitech h800 wireless headset, and when i connect the usb bt dongle, i get this message in syslog: http://pastebin.com/kGvrdzXV
[09:49] <Gentoon> So now i am trying Unetbootin to extract the ISo onto it see how it does as live
[09:49] <varikonniemi> it shows up in the audio output sources, but nothing is heard and mmic is not working
[09:49] <Gentoon> Cause I did a destructive write badblocks with zero errors so i think the drive is fin
[09:49] <Gentoon> fine
[09:50] <Gentoon> No complaints from dmesg yet and Unetbootin is almost done
[09:50] <Gentoon> its doing persistance now
[09:51] <Gentoon> I just dont get why when I install to the flash drive I get all these damn cache errors and it runs really slow or crashes
[09:51] <daftykins> hrmm
[09:52] <daftykins> sure sounds quirky
[09:52] <Gentoon> I know but I use the drive all the time without issue and badblocks found nothing
[09:53] <Gentoon> This unetbootin live install will be the final test, if it doesnt act normal I am trashing the drive
[09:53] <Gentoon> I have a 180GB Extreme SanDisk SSD coming Monday anywyas
[09:54] <daftykins> 8)
[09:54] <daftykins> SSDs ftw
[09:54] <MonkWitDaFunk> nice, is it sata interface?
[09:54] <Gentoon> Hell yea, Ubuntu boots in like 4 seconds
[09:54] <daftykins> lol
[09:54] <Gentoon> Yes it is SATA
[09:55] <Gentoon> Weird how i got it, I bought a 64GB SDXC drom Sandisk for my phone and it failed so I RMA'd then they sent another one, same thing
[09:56] <Gentoon> so the supervisor still didnt wanna give a refund so he said pick whatever I want for under 250 bucks lol
[09:56] <daftykins> wowzer
[09:56] <Gentoon> SO I spotted that 180GB SSD and said yes please
[09:56] <daftykins> do you still get a third card too?
[09:57] <Gentoon> No, I dont want anymore SDXC cards from them
[09:57] <Gentoon> They are junk
[09:57] <Gentoon> you format them 2 or 3 times and they die
[09:57] <Gentoon> At least the 64GB ones
[09:58] <Gentoon> Damn it I took too much Clonazipam and am guna have to sleep soon
[09:58] <Gentoon> I wanna see this finsih first
[09:58] <daftykins> clona what now? :)
[09:58] <daftykins> sounds like a muscle relaxant
[09:58] <MonkWitDaFunk> how do you format a card? install.a driver for ubuntu?
[09:58] <Gentoon> Almost, its a Benzodiazapine
[09:59] <Gentoon> I didnt come close t spelling that right
[09:59] <Gentoon> Its for anxiety
[09:59] <Gentoon> Like Xannax
[09:59] <daftykins> ah ok
[09:59] <Gentoon> 48% persistance come on its only 7GB
[10:00] <Gentoon> MonkWitDaFunk: What kind of card?
[10:00] <himanshu_linux> i have a executable file. It is of sublime text. how can i put and view it in apps directory ?
[10:00] <Gentoon> You can use fdisk, cfdisk, Gparted, etc..
[10:00] <MonkWitDaFunk> hey. i think lexar scsi is pretty solid
[10:00] <Gentoon> himanshu_linux: A script?
[10:01] <himanshu_linux> Gentoon : hmm
[10:01] <MonkWitDaFunk> sorry. kingston scsi
[10:03] <Gentoon> Whoah Persistance jumped from 47% to 100% really fast
[10:03] <Gentoon> I have never installed an SSD before, I am so excited!
[10:03] <Gentoon> Come on Monday!
[10:05] <MonkWitDaFunk> who made your ssd gentoo?
[10:05] <Tex_Nick> Gentoon : Linus Torvalds recently compared hard drives to "Satan" ... if you've never used a SSD before, you'll understand what he meant ;-)
[10:06] <Gentoon> FML
[10:06] <Gentoon> The ISO I had wasnt a LIVE iso just install
[10:06] <Gentoon> ughh
[10:06] <MonkWitDaFunk> i think usb flash.drives should.last a lifetime right?
[10:07] <daftykins> what do you define as a lifetime?
[10:08] <Gentoon> Which torrent is live?
[10:08] <Gentoon> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Gentoon  "desktop" is live
[10:08] <Gentoon> Cause I got the ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso and its install only
[10:09] <Gentoon> Oh duh
[10:09] <daftykins> yeah alternate is... an alternate :>
[10:09] <MonkWitDaFunk> well my $20 canadian bought me a usb flash built to work for.two years. built to last per dollar
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> something you need to know
[10:10] <Gentoon> So now I get to wait for it to download and for Unetbootin to extract it again YEY
[10:10] <Gentoon> So keep me company so I do not pass out lol
[10:10] <VorT3x> Guys, does some1 know, why in empathy i dont see contact list
[10:10] <VorT3x> but in options contact list is enabled
[10:10] <daftykins> Gentoon: go sleep ;) it'll still be there tomorrow!
[10:10] <Gentoon> Only 3.4 GB/s
[10:11] <Gentoon> ugh
[10:11] <Gentoon> No I must accomplish mission!
[10:11] <ANub> guys...........where can i get xserver help....?
[10:11] <Tex_Nick> MonkWitDaFunk : wikipedia has a good article on flash drives ( longevity is included ) ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive#Longevity
[10:11] <Gentoon> The Clonazapam kinda makes ya high
[10:12] <Gentoon> almost more drunk
[10:12] <Gentoon> Im so OT sorry
[10:12] <stroodlepup> my java plugin does not work/takes too long to load on chrome... help
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> !find xserver
[10:12] <Gentoon> .ignore #ubuntu JOINS QUITS PARTS
[10:12] <Gentoon> opps
[10:14] <Gentoon> When doin persistance you make the persistance as large as the drive or the drive minus the ISO?
[10:16] <wdp> i remember i asked that before; but i forgot the answer and google doesn't help me. Is there some location where to obtain .debs for sun jdk? or is there really only the manual installation possible?
[10:16] <wdp> maybe some third party repository somewhere?
[10:18] <Gentoon> I love Ubuntu
[10:18] <daftykins> Gentoon: however much storage you want minus the ISO size ja
[10:18] <Gentoon> it gets hated o so much
[10:18] <Custanz> ciao
[10:18] <Gentoon> daftykins: Ooops I did more lol, hope it doesnt mess it up haha
[10:18] <kradk> Hello, I'm trying to install VLC on my Ubuntu.
[10:18] <serp_> ciao bella
[10:18] <Gentoon> apt-cache search vlc
[10:18] <serp_> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:18] <Gentoon> then find the package name
[10:19] <kradk> But I get this error message: "failed to load the resource from repository check your internet connection"
[10:19] <Gentoon> then sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:19] <wdp> nvm, found it.
[10:19] <serp_> sudo ape-get update
[10:19] <Gentoon> I miss apptitude
[10:19] <kradk> serp_: I tried the apt-get install one, that gives Unable to locate package vlc
[10:19] <Gentoon> The Ubuntu Software manager is so comercialized..
[10:20] <Gentoon> kradk: Cause that isnt the package name or you do not have the proper repo
[10:20] <Gentoon> Did you try apt-cache search vlc
[10:20] <serp_> kradk: do apt-get update first
[10:20] <catphish> is it easy to upgrade ubuntu 10.04's kernel to something more recent?
[10:20] <decoded5> Hi together! I want to remove my phpstorm licence key. My phpstorm is located at /opt/phpstorm/. I've googled but found nothing helpful.
[10:20] <kradk> serp_: Something was going on and later I got this: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:21] <Gentoon> yea the package is just called vlc
[10:21] <Gentoon> its in multiverse
[10:21] <kradk> Gentoon: I didn't get you. What do I do now?
[10:22] <kradk> Is it because I'm not having the latest version of Ubuntu??
[10:22] <Gentoon> kradk: Do you have multiverse repo enabled?
[10:22] <kradk> Gentoon: Sorry, I didn't even understand what you told. How do I check it?
[10:23] <Gentoon> type uname -l
[10:24] <Gentoon> er -a
[10:24] <decoded5> Hi together! I want to remove my phpstorm licence key. My phpstorm is located at /opt/phpstorm/. I've googled but found nothing helpful.
[10:24] <kradk> Should I replace uname with my usernmae?
[10:24] <Gentoon> no
[10:24] <serp_> decoded5: are you swiss?
[10:24] <Gentoon> just type exactly uname -a
[10:24] <decoded5> serp_: no, german
[10:25] <serp_> ok
[10:25] <decoded5> serp_: can you help me?
[10:25] <kradk> Gentoon: Got Linux djhdfjdfjfl 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:25] <Gentoon> 2.6 ..
[10:25] <daftykins> decoded5: tried in the home dir?
[10:25] <Gentoon> You need to install at least 12.04 dude
[10:25] <decoded5> daftykins: I'll take a look
[10:26] <kradk> Gentoon: Okay.
[10:26] <Gentoon> You must be waaay back running Kernel 2.6
[10:26] <kradk> Is it possible to upgrade to Ubuntu's latest version without having to download and install using the ISO file?
[10:26] <gac> kradk: do-release-upgrade
[10:26] <Gentoon> I forgot the command that says exactly what release you are running
[10:26] <gac> lsb_release a-
[10:26] <decoded5> daftykins: theres no phpstorm file in my home dir
[10:26] <gac> lsb_release -a
[10:27] <zwiep`> hello
[10:28] <Gentoon> gac: Thx
[10:28] <zwiep`> I have a question regarding the files browser
[10:28] <daftykins> !ask
[10:28] <kradk> gac: can you specify the full command? i'm getting "release: command not found"
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> gac  try /exec lsb_release -a
[10:28] <gac> kradk: do-release-upgrade is the commant
[10:28] <decoded5> where are license keys stored in ubuntu?
[10:29] <Gentoon> kradk: What was the output of lsb_release -a
[10:29] <gac> seems like you're using spaces instead of hyphens
[10:29] <Gentoon> I am guessing pidgeon
[10:29] <Gentoon> Or weasel
[10:29] <Gentoon> I forget the damn release names
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> sorry, addressed wrong nick ^^^
[10:30] <gac> 2.6 kernel is probably lucid (10.04LTS)
[10:30] <Gentoon> Haha where did I get Weasel haha
[10:30] <Gentoon> So every generation has a LTS and an unstable?
[10:30] <Gentoon> is that the model?
[10:30] <gac> nah
[10:30] <decoded5> where are license keys stored in ubuntu?
[10:30] <gac> every 2 years (roughly) there's an LTS release
[10:30] <Gentoon> LMGTFY
[10:31] <zwiep`> I mounted some nfs shares to /mnt/nas/sharedir but I'm finding it quite extensive to browse there every time.  Isn't there a way to have for example NAS as a folder under 'computer' in the left pane of my files browser?
[10:31] <gac> 6.06LTS, 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04LTS, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04LTS, 10.10, etc
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> zwiep`  add a bookmark
[10:32] <gac> also the non-LTS releases aren't "unstable", they're of release quality
[10:32] <zwiep`> aha
[10:32] <zwiep`> thanks!
[10:32] <Gentoon> Actualy I cant google it for you because you didnt specify which licence keys
[10:32] <gac> but there's not enough manpower to support EVERY release for 3/5 years, so they pick and choose a long-term release
[10:32] <gac> the others get 18months of support and are then dropped
[10:32] <Gentoon> The LTS are "More Stab;e"
[10:32] <Gentoon> Stable
[10:32] <Gentoon> And will get security rleases for longer
[10:33] <Gentoon> But I was always a SID guy
[10:33] <gac> they have longer support, i wouldn't say they're more stable though as that implies the other releases aren't stable
[10:33] <decoded5> where are license keys stored in ubuntu?
[10:33] <gac> but yeah, it sounds like we're talking about the same thing
[10:33] <gac> :)(
[10:33] <gac> license keys for what, decoded5 ?
[10:33] <Gentoon> No it implies they are less stable..
[10:33] <decoded5> gac: phpstorm www.jetbrains.com
[10:34] <Gentoon> I watched Human Centipede, don
[10:34] <Gentoon> 't ever do it.
[10:34] <gac> Gentoon: ok then, less stable, but i don't think they are. there's a difference between "less stable" and "less supported"...but yeah, it sounds like we mean the same thing anyway :)
[10:34] <gac> decoded5: no idea :) if you open the IDE, then there may be an option to export your license key?
[10:35] <gac> otherwise, you probably received it by email/download, you could just get a fresh copy of it
[10:35] <Gentoon> gac: The repos include later versions of applications that are not always fully tested
[10:35] <Gentoon> I mean not Alpha or anything
[10:35] <kradk> gac: upgrading via do-release-upgrade is faster than the other way (downloading ISO and installing)?
[10:35] <decoded5> gac: i tried that. theres no supprt for license key export, removal or changing. I have to do it manually i think.
[10:36] <Gentoon> kradk: That wouldnt be upgrading, that would be re installing a later version
[10:36] <gac> kradk: I've never benchmarked it speed-wise, but it's certainly easier to do an in-place upgrade
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> kradk  fresh install tends to be cleaner, faster and more efficient
[10:36] <Gentoon> Cant you use use the update-manager?
[10:36] <Gentoon> Run all your updates then do a dist upgrade?
[10:36] <gac> that's what do-release-upgrade does, pretty much
[10:36] <Gentoon> Thats how I went from 12.04 to 12.10
[10:37] <Gentoon> oh
[10:37] <gac> i think it also has some additional logic specifically for upgrades, which is why I use it rather than just updating repos and doing a dist-upgrade as you would with debian
[10:37] <Tex_Nick> release stability has a LOT to do with vendor hardware/chip support ... hardware vendors put a LOT more effort into LTS releases than non LTS
[10:37] <kradk> So, that means I need to re-install it every time a new version is released?
[10:37] <gac> kradk: not at all
[10:37] <gac> kradk: you do a "do-release-upgrade" and that will bring you up to date
[10:37] <kradk> Okay cool.
[10:37] <Gentoon> All the way from 4 versions back?
[10:38] <Gentoon> That is nifty..
[10:38] <gac> Gentoon: yep, although it'll do one step at a time
[10:38] <Gentoon> I need to write that down
[10:38] <Gentoon> Hope it cleans up its mess well
[10:38] <gac> unless it's LTS, in which case it'll jump you straight from one supported LTS to the next (i.e. 10.04LTS to 12.04LTS)
[10:38] <kradk> Sorry about my noob questions. I'm new to linux.
[10:38] <Gentoon> We were all noobs
[10:38] <Gentoon> and still are in many ways
[10:39] <Gentoon> Especially me
[10:39] <Gentoon> It took me 15 mins to remember the name of the editor I like today
[10:39] <kradk> Gentoon: you are so knowledgeable than me.
[10:40] <Gentoon> Nah im a script kiddie who uses this shit cause I hate windows with a passion
[10:41] <Catbuntu> Nvidia GeForce GT 545 should be compatible with Ubuntu, shouldn't it?
[10:41] <Gentoon> Okay lets see if this 8GB thumb drive can handle the live install
[10:41] <gac> yeah, with the proprietary drivers it should be fine, Catbuntu
[10:42] <Gentoon> if not its goin in the garbage and I am SOL till my SSD gets here
[10:42] <Catbuntu> Ok.
[10:42] <kradk> I've been using windows till now, but I decided it's time to make a change. My pc was infected with viruses, programs started crashing and it was slow... anyway switching to linux fixes some of these issues. at least, I hope so.
[10:42] <Catbuntu> I'm thinking on buy a new desktop computer, and I saw this nice one: http://www8.hp.com/es/es/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5191818
[10:42] <Catbuntu> It's not certified, but should it work?
[10:42] <WeechWeb> well linux cannot get windows viruses and thats what there most targeted for
[10:42] <gac> Catbuntu: most things should work, linux is very flexible
[10:43] <gac> i wouldn't expect there to be any problems with that system :)
[10:43] <Catbuntu> Ok!
[10:43] <Gentoon> I love linux, just cause the customability. Girls come over and see my tri-monitor setup with split screened terminals grren on black with transparent backgrounds htop open some rand dirs open.. maybe a compiler running
[10:43] <Gentoon> And they think I am some master hacker
[10:43] <WeechWeb> the only problem i have with ubuntu is http://askubuntu.com/questions/203773/fresh-install-of-ubuntu-12-10-wont-boot-on-asus-x101ch-eee-pc
[10:43] <Catbuntu> The best thing is it comes with Windows 7 by default, so no UEFI craps are.
[10:44] <WeechWeb> i dont suppose anyone can help me? trying to reserect a old netbook
[10:44] <Catbuntu> I don't have experience with desktop computers, HP is a good brand?
[10:44] <Gentoon> To a non geek it looks like you are hacking Nasa, all the time
[10:44] <MonkWitDaFunk> Q: does ubuntu support drivers for sound blaster audigy expansion cards?
[10:44] <gac> Catbuntu: HP are "ok", just like Dell are "ok", and everyone is "ok"
[10:44] <WeechWeb> if you can buid your own
[10:45] <Tex_Nick> Catbuntu : you could compare the individual components of a platform to ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:45] <WeechWeb> then you get 100% compatibility if you build it for uuntu
[10:45] <gac> the components are much of a muchness, I tend to differentiate on support...which usually isn't great for retail users, from any company
[10:45] <Catbuntu> I know Tex_Nick.
[10:45] <Gentoon> 8GB Live install is not lookin good ;(
[10:45] <Catbuntu> At least Nvidia has better Linux support than AMD ATI, I think.
[10:46] <WeechWeb> they do catubuntu
[10:46] <Catbuntu> Though Nvidia laptops with Optimus are bad for Linux.
[10:46] <WeechWeb> i have nvidia and it detects it easerally
[10:46] <Catbuntu> Yep, me too.
[10:46] <Gentoon> Taking forever to boot and on tty1 I see timeout /sbin/blkid -o udev - p /dev/sdb
[10:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> i thought drivers were part of ubuntu installation
[10:46] <Gentoon> Grrrr
[10:46] <Catbuntu> My actual laptop, an Acer Aspire 6930 (which is oldie, came with Vista), works better on Linux than on Windows.
[10:46] <Gentoon> Im stuck with my 2GB I guess
[10:46] <WeechWeb> defently catubuntu
[10:46] <WeechWeb> my old dell inspiron runs on ubuntu server
[10:47] <WeechWeb> and i never have had a problem with it, its now a nice FTP box
[10:47] <Catbuntu> haha
[10:47] <Catbuntu> I have an Ubuntu server too.
[10:47] <Catbuntu> Ubuntu for servers is really good.
[10:47] <Gentoon> I love LAMP!
[10:47] <WeechWeb> im familier with the terminal, do i thought why not
[10:47] <Gentoon> Haha, ya see what I did there?
[10:47] <WeechWeb> no?
[10:48] <Catbuntu> That HP desktop has 16GB of RAM, oh my god.
[10:48] <Gentoon> Anchorman/Linux Server joke...
[10:48] <WeechWeb> My old server runs on 2GB of ram, never had a problem with it :D
[10:48] <Gentoon> nvm :(
[10:48] <Catbuntu> Why do I want 16GB of RAM.
[10:48] <Catbuntu> I never use more than 1GB on my current 3GB RAM.
[10:48] <gac> Catbuntu: more is always good
[10:48] <Catbuntu> If it's well supported yes.
[10:48] <gac> better caching, less chance of ever swapping, etc
[10:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> virtual.machines can use a lot of ram
[10:49] <Catbuntu> That's true, RAM for virtualisating is good.
[10:49] <WeechWeb> What upload do you get?
[10:50] <Catbuntu> My nightmare is to install Ubuntu on a Windows 8 UEFI-ish computer.
[10:50] <WeechWeb> windows 8 has a locked bios i think
[10:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> im worried if 2gb ddr2 will be enough to play flash and use audacity for recording
[10:50] <WeechWeb> it will be monk
[10:50] <Catbuntu> WeechWeb, you just have to disable Secure Boot.
[10:51] <Catbuntu> I think you always can excepting the RT ARM version.
[10:51] <WeechWeb> Oh, ok, Thanks! :)
[10:51] <Catbuntu> The problem is GRUB.
[10:51] <WeechWeb> Grub is slow
[10:51] <Catbuntu> Because there's UEFI, and you have to do odd things to use GRUB.
[10:51] <Catbuntu> I mean you install Ubuntu and you can't boot it, you have to repair boot or something.
[10:51] <Catbuntu> I don't thing is simple as running SuperGRUB
[10:51] <WeechWeb> Grub saved my computer
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Catbuntu  maybe this is useful to you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:52] <WeechWeb> whilst playing around with the computer i broke the boot partition, i installed ubuntu and set grub on / and it fixed it
[10:52] <MonkWitDaFunk> can you use grub to run scripts?
[10:52] <WeechWeb> so now my family use slow windows, and if i need to use that device i can use Ubuntu,
[10:52] <Jordan_U> WeechWeb: Catbuntu: You don't even need to disable secure boot. Ubuntu 12.10 has a signed UEFI bootloader.
[10:52] <WeechWeb> Thats news
[10:53] <WeechWeb> thanks!
[10:53] <WeechWeb> xD
[10:53] <WeechWeb> MonkWitDaFunk: MonkWitDaFunk
[10:53] <WeechWeb> opps
[10:53] <Catbuntu> 12.10...
[10:53] <WeechWeb> MonkWitDaFunk: stackoverflow.com/questions/2062543/running-a-script-with-the-help-of-grub-and-menu-lst
[10:53] <Catbuntu> This is good too, 8 gigs of RAM and less price: https://tiendas.mediamarkt.es/monitores-pc/product10001492
[10:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> can you use grub to run scripts native to linux?
[10:54] <WeechWeb> MonkWitDaFunk: i dont think so, because its a bootloader, it just starts the partition basicly
[10:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> thats what i thought
[10:55] <Jordan_U> MonkWitDaFunk: You can pass parameters to the kernel which will trigger certain scripts to be run, but grub isn't linux. It can't run *NIX binaries or *NIX scripts (though it can run grub-script scripts, which use a bash like syntax).
[10:56] <Jordan_U> MonkWitDaFunk: What is your end goal?
[10:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> i got confused as grub being a bootloader and running badblocks as a script
[10:58] <MonkWitDaFunk> grub can be usefull using thin clients or.diskless.workstations right?
[10:59] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: Uhm, maybe. :)
[10:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi bekks
[10:59] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: grub provides the ability to actually choose which OS or kernel you want to boot
[10:59] <WeechWeb> i dont suppose anyone can tell me how to turn off the spammy join/leave msg's.
[10:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> how do i get started running grub to network boot?
[11:00] <WeechWeb> pxe?
[11:00] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: grub has no ability to boot from your network. Thats a functionality required to be provided by your network card.
[11:00] <llutz> WeechWeb: weechat? http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/weechat_faq.en.html#filter_irc_join_part_quit
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> WeechWeb  depends on your irc client
[11:00] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: And it is called PXE.
[11:00] <WeechWeb> Not weechat IRSSI
[11:01] <llutz> !quietirssi
[11:01] <tomreyn> irssi v0.8.12 - running on CYGWIN_NT-6.1 i686
[11:01] <WeechWeb> thanks
[11:01] <WeechWeb>  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[11:01] <WeechWeb> done
[11:01] <WeechWeb> thats better, thanks
[11:01] <WeechWeb> sorry i had a space the 1'st time
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> WeechWeb  it's /ignore #ubuntu +joins +parts +quits +modes +nicks
[11:02] <WeechWeb> MonkeyDust: dont worry, i got it
[11:02] <WeechWeb> MonkeyDust: sorry, kinda new to Irssi how would i turn it on again?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> WeechWeb  :) try /unignore blah
[11:03] <WeechWeb> MonkeyDust: sorry, new to the world of IRC
[11:03] <WeechWeb> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:05] <Gentoon> Sweet 8GB Live seems to be working
[11:06] <Gentoon> Okay so how the heck do you add more work spaces in unity and have them just lines up in a line instead of the whole quadrant thing?
[11:06] <WeechWeb> Im planning to get a 2TB external HDD to install ubuntu on, am i gonna notice bad speed or anything
[11:06] <bekks> WeechWeb: How will it be connected? USB3?
[11:07] <MonkWitDaFunk> whos the maker of.the sata disk?
[11:07] <WeechWeb> No USB2
[11:07] <WeechWeb> since most of the deviced i wanna boot from are USB2 only
[11:07] <bekks> WeechWeb: That will be pretty damn slow for an installation.
[11:07] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: Doesnt mattter. USB2 is slower than every current disk.
[11:08] <WeechWeb> Maplins (UK) is doing a 2TB HDD for £69.99 i think it is so i thought i might get one
[11:08] <WeechWeb> the only reasion is i filled up my pc
[11:08] <WeechWeb> and i use large files like linux distros on multiple pc's
[11:09] <MonkWitDaFunk> how does usb get called scsi by daricks boot and nuke?
[11:09] <Gentoon> Okay sleep
[11:09] <WeechWeb> cya
[11:09] <Gentoon> Can configure tomorrow
[11:09] <Gentoon> Later
[11:09] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: USB is an Universal Serial Bus, just like the Small Computer Systems Interface.
[11:11] <MonkWitDaFunk> is scsi used to standardize types of buses
[11:11] <Tex_Nick> Gentoon_ : compiz will allow you to do that
[11:11] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: No.
[11:12] <WeechWeb> i have a ubuntu server with some videos i wanna upload youtube videos from, any idea how i would do it from the command line, i use google apps for my domain aswell
[11:12] <WeechWeb> just because my ubuntu server has a good wired connection so it makes sense since i keep them on there via FTP
[11:13] <bekks> WeechWeb: youtube didnt implement a FTP upload.
[11:14] <WeechWeb> bekks: there on my server via FTP
[11:14] <bekks> Better use SFTP.
[11:14] <WeechWeb> bekks: i mean how would i upload them to youtube via command line
[11:14] <WeechWeb> bekks: well its all internal and firewalled
[11:14] <tomreyn> i bet that's off-topic here but you can use something like https://code.google.com/p/youtube-upload/downloads/list
[11:14] <bekks> WeechWeb: Youtube has no cmdline interface.
[11:14] <WeechWeb> bekks: i ment like a 3rd party program
[11:14] <bekks> Oh, actually someone implemented youtube-upload :)
[11:15] <WeechWeb> and thnks tomreyn you found it!
[11:15] <WeechWeb> *thanks
[11:15] <tomreyn> entering "youtube upload cli" in a web search wasnt that tough
[11:16] <WeechWeb> sorry, i guess i was googleing the worng thingd
[11:16] <WeechWeb> *things
[11:16] <WeechWeb> i googled "upload videos from ubuntu terminal"
[11:16] <WeechWeb> to youtube
[11:16] <tomreyn> no worries, i was just wondering whether you had searched before you asked ;)
[11:16] <wujie> hi ,freands
[11:17] <wujie> Good evening
[11:17] <tomreyn> hi wujie
[11:17] <MonkWitDaFunk> happy holiday wujie
[11:17] <wujie> I come from China
[11:17] <diverdude> Hello, i seem to have to edit /etc/resolv.conf to change my dns several times..Is there some way to save the change?
[11:17] <tomreyn> happy working day then
[11:18] <WeechWeb> brb
[11:18] <tacirus> Hello, I accidently pressed the "sleep" button and since then The usb flash card can only be seen as a "usb flash drive" but no stuff is available to see in it, and the fkash card had a name "storage" that can`t be seen now too. Is the flash card too bad to restore or there``s still a way to fix it?
[11:19] <tomreyn> diverdude: are you using network manager?
[11:19] <diverdude> tomreyn, no, in console
[11:19] <gartral> i need a basic, fast photo editor to do the most basic things like crop and red-eye removal.. any suggestions?
[11:19] <tomreyn> diverdude: is it installed + active on your system, though?
[11:19] <diverdude> tomreyn, yeah i think so
[11:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> gimp can be found in the dash of ubuntu
[11:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> its a image editor
[11:20] <WeechWeb> sudo apt-get install gimp
[11:20] <gartral> MonkWitDaFunk: too heavy. I need a light photo editor
[11:21] <tomreyn> diverdude: then edit the very network manager profile in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[11:21] <diverdude> tomreyn, hmmm no such directory
[11:22] <tomreyn> diverdude: which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:23] <diverdude> tomreyn, 120.10
[11:23] <diverdude> 12.10
[11:24] <c1ph3r> f-spot is a good image editor
[11:26] <MonkWitDaFunk> !drivers
[11:26] <tomreyn> diverdude: hmm, must be somewhere in your home directory then
[11:26] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: Drivers for what?
[11:27] <MonkWitDaFunk> !pci
[11:27] <bekks> MonkWitDaFunk: Whats up with PCI?
[11:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> im looking to see if the.sound card i bought is compatable and then im going to install its needed drivers
[11:29] <bekks> !hcl | MonkWitDaFunk
[11:30] <tomreyn> diverdude: run gconf-editor, then browse to system/networking/connections/
[11:31] <tomreyn> diverdude: alternatively (no gui) edit the relevant profile directly in ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections/
[11:33] <diverdude> tomreyn, no such dir either
[11:33] <diverdude> no gconf-editor program either
[11:34] <jdas> is there any package for ubuntu 12.10 to sniff the data communication on the usb interface
[11:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> ok, i hope ubuntu can auto.detect my sound card. i just need to know the specs of my mobo's slot
[11:36] <diverdude> tomreyn, i installed gconf and ran it
[11:36] <diverdude> tomreyn, but no system/networking directory
[11:37] <Dj1210> hi there, I got a question about VPN guys
[11:37] <MonkWitDaFunk> jdas, i think you might be thinking of analyzing the ram
[11:37] <Tex_Nick> jdas : http://biot.com/blog/usb-sniffing-on-linux ... gives info on usb bus sniffing ... if you want to spend some money, there some commercial apps
[11:38] <jdas> Tex_Nick: I want something for free and works on Ubuntu. Thank you for the link.
[11:39] <fergal32> hi everybody
[11:39] <fergal32> i just installed ubuntu and i have one stupid question.
[11:39] <bekks> !ask | Dj1210
[11:39] <tomreyn> diverdude: hmm i wonder whether you really use network manager then
[11:39] <varikonniemi> agains what package should i file a bug report when my headset does not work? alsa?
[11:40] <Dj1210> well, where can I get a good tutorial about setting up a VPN
[11:40] <Dj1210> of course in Ubuntu
[11:40] <fergal32> why is there in /etc/hosts 2 lines which say 127.0.0.1 localhost and 127.0.1.1 hostname?
[11:41] <g0tcha> hey guys, when i install LAMP on ubuntu server, how can i give my user rights to '/var/www' ?
[11:41] <fergal32> wouldn't it be better to say 192.168.1.20 hostname instead of 127.0.1.1 hostname?
[11:41] <g0tcha> do i change the ownership of the directory?
[11:41] <bekks> fergal32: Doesnt matter. Thats not a hostname, but an IP. :)
[11:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> !hdw
[11:41] <bekks> fergal32: And it strongly depends on what you are going to do.
[11:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> !hcl
[11:42] <fergal32> bekks: ah ok
[11:42] <bekks> !apache > g0tcha
[11:46] <diverdude> tomreyn, how can i check?
[11:47] <g0tcha> bekks, the link it gave is kinda old
[11:47] <ichigo-roku> Hi
[11:47] <g0tcha> to edit anything its in apache2/sites-available/default.... the link you gave me is talking about changing stuff in apache2.conf
[11:47] <bekks> g0tcha: Why?
[11:48] <bekks> !apache > bekks
[11:48] <ichigo-roku> How to hide systray icons in Unity for Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[11:48] <bekks> !apache2 > bekks
[11:48] <g0tcha> bekks, there is nothing about changing the docroot in my apache2.conf
[11:49] <bekks> g0tcha: For doing so, you have to consult the official apoache documentation.
[11:51] <diverdude> tomreyn, ?
[11:51] <coin3d> hi there. i found out that ubuntu is really great when it comes to power consumption - e.g. with ubuntu, in idle, my computer takes 25 watts, with debian wheezy it takes 32 watts. however i'd like to know what kind of optimizations ubuntu uses to save power? does anyone know that?
[11:51] <tomreyn> diverdude: sorry, busy right now
[11:54] <g0tcha> bekks, thanks
[11:54] <guest-nbLP0u> hi, i've a problem, every time that i add hebrew input it goes away after reboot. why?
[11:54] <peyam> hi
[11:55] <peyam> I use Xubuntu and my wireless connecttion doesnt work
[11:55] <peyam> I'm now Online using my other computer`
[11:57] <guest-nbLP0u> would you help?
[11:58] <wessly> Hello, how can i replace a noveau driver on GT630M, i have external and internal Intel HD 3000 I think.
[11:59] <wessly> I tryed a apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:59] <wessly> But now i dont have a desktop, just right click on desktop.
[12:00] <guest-nbLP0u> would you help?
[12:00] <guest-nbLP0u> nevermind i will not use hebrew
[12:01] <aller> After logging in, Desktop doesn't start. It was working after instal. I am not sure if I did not change something. How can I somehow revert any changes to the GUI "subsystem" ?
[12:03] <em_> hello, i have problem with 32 bit system, i have installed kernel with PAE suppoprt, but it's still 3gb of memory...
[12:03] <em_> what should i do to fix this issue ?
[12:04] <tomreyn> diverdude: sorry, I needed to handle some fire. have you found + read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager yet?
[12:04] <tomreyn> if you need a CLI to manage network manager settings apparently there is nmcli
[12:05] <tomreyn> if it's running and managing your connection then you should see a "network-manager" service
[12:06] <tomreyn> sudo service network-manager status
[12:06] <em_> any ideas with PAE ..?
[12:06] <diverdude> tomreyn, hmmm ok i get this
[12:06] <diverdude> $ sudo service network-manager status
[12:06] <diverdude> network-manager start/running, process 1048
[12:07] <tomreyn> em_: did you just install it or have you also booted it and verified you booted it?
[12:07] <tomreyn> diverdude: so it should be active unless there is "manual" in /etc/init/network-manager.override
[12:07] <em_> tomreyn, how to check it ?
[12:08] <em_> tomreyn, i have only one kernel in boot....
[12:08] <tomreyn> em_: uname -a. also, how much physical ram do you actually have there? and how did you check how much is available now?
[12:09] <diverdude> tomreyn, hmm i only have cat /etc/init/network-manager.conf
[12:09] <em_> tomreyn, i have check available ram in free -m
[12:09] <tomreyn> em_: thanks for answering one of two questions
[12:10] <em_> tomreyn, and physical ram in dmidecode...
[12:10] <tomreyn> diverdude: well try editing your network manager profile and see whether you changes apply
[12:10] <em_> tomreyn, in uname -a ; linux 3.5.0-21 generic #32-ubuntu smp ...
[12:10] <limester123> hi
[12:10] <limester123> hey guys
[12:10] <limester123> I have a question!
[12:11] <bekks> limester123: Then just ask please.
[12:11] <diverdude> tomreyn, this is the content:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1459296/
[12:11] <limester123> does anyone here know CUDA?
[12:11] <em_> tomreyn, how to solve this issue ..?
[12:11] <tomreyn> em_: so is this the PAE kernel you wanted to run?
[12:11] <em_> yes
[12:12] <em_> tomreyn, yes it's
[12:12] <bekks> !anyone | limester123
[12:12] <tomreyn> diverdude: that's the network manager init script, yes. that's irrelevant here.
[12:13] <diverdude> tomreyn, hmm ok....so where do i edt my network manager profile?
[12:13] <limester123> !poll
[12:13] <abhie> i am starting off with "Quickly" from the "ubuntu development center " while adding up the button in my first app i am not able to edit label of that button
[12:13] <limester123> !details
[12:14] <em_> tomreyn, could you please help?
[12:14] <limester123> I am trying to debug cuda code. does anyone want to take a look?
[12:14] <limester123> or will anyone be offended if I posted it here?
[12:15] <bekks> limester123: Why not finally asking your REAL question. Doi you have an actual ubuntu-related problem with your CUDA code?
[12:15] <limester123> bekks: no I dont
[12:16] <bekks> limester123: Then please keep it in the offtopic channel.
[12:16] <bekks> !ot > limester123
[12:16] <tomreyn> em_: i am trying. please do: pastebinit /var/log/kern.log
[12:16] <tomreyn> diverdude: using GUI or CLI?
[12:17] <diverdude> tomreyn, CLI
[12:17] <tomreyn> diverdude: CLI is "nmcli con"
[12:17] <kurohyou> Hi, i run a cronjob every 15 minutes from my server that goes to a php script on my domain name, the script gets my current ip from the server and writes it to a txt file. The reason i do this is so i can ssh into my server from everywhere, i have a dynamic ip address from provider so no other chose. My question to you is: is it possible to ssh http://domainname/script.php directly and how do i do this?
[12:18] <ucker2> hello. I need a bit of help here. firstly if any of you run "sudo lshw -c video", what do you get in the clock field? I noticed that in precise, my desktop environemnts are very slow and jerky etc and the clock frequency for me in that command only says 33 mhz. that doesnt seem right, or is it that the clock in that command shows the scaled down value?
[12:18] <tomreyn> diverdude: "nmcli dev" should list the network devices network manager is currently managing
[12:18] <diverdude> tomreyn, wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[12:19] <em_> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/sfRNPMyR
[12:19] <zhangyuqing> exit
[12:19] <ucker2> i have a Radeon HD 4250
[12:20] <Ririshi> Hiya
[12:20] <InspectorCluseau> ucker2, same here
[12:20] <Ririshi> I've got a problem with GRUB, can I ask it here? Or is there a special channel for that?
[12:21] <InspectorCluseau> ucker2, same clock 33mhz
[12:21] <Tex_Nick> Ririshi : ask away
[12:21] <ucker2> oh ok
[12:21] <dcherniv> kurohyou, ssh `curl http://domainname/script.php`
[12:21] <InspectorCluseau> ucker2, 9600GT video here
[12:22] <Ririshi> I've got a problem with a triple boot: I've got Ubuntu 12.04.1 and Windows 7 and Windows XP (without SATA drivers) and when I run update-grub, Windows XP doesn't get recognized. Here is a log of boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1459306/
[12:22] <Tex_Nick> Ririshi : i should have said ... you may ask here :)
[12:22] <ucker2> then probably something else is the problem thats causing lag. i thought for a second my bios or something had the video underclocked
[12:22] <Ririshi> I was thinking about how i should formulize it (fail english -.-)
[12:23] <tomreyn> diverdude: sorry,apparently nmcli doesn't allow for editing your profiles or adding new ones. i'm just learning myself as we go. but i don't nkow how else to do it or where your configuration is stored if not in the locations i provided earlier which are also listed on the help page I linked.
[12:25] <Ririshi> .
[12:26] <tomreyn> em_: please run: grep -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo 2>&1| pastebinit
[12:26] <InspectorCluseau> ucker2, I had a similar issue, but I am using kde and I set the video to use raster and that corrected the slow/jerkiness. I don't know what gnome has for that.
[12:26] <em_> tomreyn, my cpu support it
[12:27] <ucker2> ok, InspectorCluseau
[12:27] <ucker2> i'll look into that
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:27] <em_> tomreyn, all ok in /proc/cpuinfo
[12:28] <Ririshi> Someone got an idea for my problem? I hate it when noone actually responds when I say something ): At least say that you don't know if you read it >.< ^-^
[12:29] <Tex_Nick> !Patience | Ririshi
[12:30] <Ririshi> thanks ^-^
[12:32] <srhb> Ririshi: You don't see XP at all in the boot menu?
[12:33] <Ririshi> srhb: when starting my pc, in grub I do see windows xp, but only because I told it to make a custom entry via 31_windaz.sh (I made in grub.d)
[12:33] <Ririshi> srhb: also, when running update-grub, it doesn't show it unless i use that 31_windaz
[12:33] <srhb> Ririshi: Is that a problem?
[12:34] <tomreyn> em_: do you want to post this, too? sudo lshw -sanitize -c memory
[12:34] <OY1R> i have a strange issue, my laptop running ubuntu will not power on an LCD monitor however the old CRT monitor works fine, anyone ever seen/fixed this issue ?
[12:34] <tomreyn> em_: i'm not sure i will be able to help, but it would be nice to see whether the memory is actually detected on the hardware layer
[12:35] <em_> tomreyn, just a sec..
[12:35] <OY1R> the LCD IS detected by ubuntu and it works in windows XP with out problems.
[12:35] <Ririshi> srhb: the problem is, when I try to boot it via my 31_windaz, it gives me a "NTLDR is missing" error..
[12:36] <srhb> Ririshi: Is the XP bootloader really located in sda1?
[12:37] <Ririshi> srhb: XP is installed in /dev/sda4
[12:37] <srhb> Ririshi: Yes, but its bootloader might be in sda1
[12:37] <srhb> Ririshi: Which may contain the information to locate your NTLDR
[12:38] <Ririshi> srhb: sda1 is an extended partition, which contains my ubuntu ext4 and linux-swap
[12:38] <Ririshi> shrb: sda2 is my windows 7, sda3 is a data partition and sda4 is my windows xp (which only runs when my SATA controller is in IDE mode)
[12:39] <srhb> Ririshi: Then I'm guessing the instructions to find NTLDR were in the MBR which was now overwritten by grub.
[12:40] <gartral> Ririshi: no swap?
[12:40] <Ririshi> gartral: read my msg -.-
[12:40] <Ririshi> gartral: [12:38] <Ririshi> srhb: sda1 is an extended partition, which contains my ubuntu ext4 and linux-swap
[12:42] <Ririshi> srhb: is there a way to get those back?
[12:42] <srhb> Ririshi: Yes, I believe you need to use an XP restore
[12:42] <Ririshi> srhb: and then? will grub be deleted?
[12:42] <srhb> Ririshi: Unfortunately that will cause your MBR to be rewritten, so you also need to be able to reinstall grub
[12:42] <srhb> Ririshi: Yes
[12:42] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: You have no boot files in your XP partition, this clearly isn't a complete XP install.
[12:43] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: I wondered about that too.. I'll check the partition with mount and nautilus and see if i can find stuff like boot.ini.
[12:43] <srhb> Ririshi: You can also try manually copying them to the drive.
[12:44] <Ririshi> srhb: how would i tell grub where they are?
[12:44] <em_> tomreyn, http://bastein.com/d3KDZjH9
[12:44] <em_> tomreyn, http://bastein.com/BBsVG3ft
[12:44] <srhb> Ririshi: You already did, they should be on sda4
[12:45] <Ririshi> srhb: in the root? like.. not in a folder?
[12:45] <dBLOOD> hi, can anyone help me?
[12:45] <wdp> dBLOOD, hard to tell.
[12:45] <julia> hello guys, can you please help me? I try to build gnome shell with jhbuild build gnome-shell, but I don't know how I can fix  the dependency for libicu
[12:45] <dBLOOD> I'm trying to mount an iso file, but I only get the message "no such file or directory"
[12:45] <em_> tomreyn, sorry
[12:45] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Once you actually have a complete XP installation that can be booted from, "sudo update-grub" will add an entry for it automatically. The reason it isn't adding one now is *because* you don't actually have a working XP installation to boot.
[12:45] <em_> tomreyn, http://bastebin.com/BBsVG3ft
[12:45] <srhb> Ririshi: Right.
[12:45] <Jordan_U> dBLOOD: What command are you running?
[12:45] <em_> tomreyn, http://bastebin.com/d3KDZjH9
[12:45] <julia> I've already installed libicu-dev
[12:46] <dBLOOD> sudo mount -o loop /media/score/GAMES/ST/stcd1.iso /media/score/TEMP/stcd
[12:46] <dBLOOD> the iso file is present, also the directory is created
[12:46] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: I had windows xp installed and then booted into a LiveCD to reinstall grub using sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt and mounting /dev/pts /proc and /sys with --bind, then chrooting and updating and installing grub..
[12:47] <em_> tomreyn, sorry again
[12:47] <em_> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/BBsVG3ft
[12:47] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: so in fact i should place boot.ini back and then only do a update-grub?
[12:47] <em_> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/d3KDZjH9
[12:47] <Ririshi> srhb: i did find a boot.ini.backup :D
[12:47] <srhb> Ririshi: Great, that's a start at least. Check it to see that the partition(n) match your actual table
[12:47] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: sda2 however *does* have both BCD and ntldr. Have you tried selecting the Windows 7 entry and seeing if it brings you to a Windows bootloader menu with options for both Windows 7 and XP?
[12:48] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: when choosing windows 7 in GRUB, it just starts windows 7
[12:48] <coolball> can anyone recommend a news server?
[12:48] <srhb>  Ririshi: You could also add the entry for WinXP to the Win7 boot.ini
[12:48] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: or should I press F8 or smth when starting?
[12:49] <Ririshi> srhb: and then? what would that do?
[12:49] <srhb> Ririshi: The Win7 bootloader would allow you to boot WinXP
[12:49] <Jordan_U> Ririshi: Try asking in ##windows.
[12:49] <Ririshi> srhb: so choosing win7 in grub and then press f8 or smth?
[12:49] <Ririshi> Jordan_U: okay
[12:50] <dBLOOD> when I try to mount it under /mnt or /tmp I get the same error
[12:50] <Jordan_U> dBLOOD: Please pastebin the output of "ls -ld /media/score/GAMES/ST/stcd1.iso /media/score/TEMP/stcd".
[12:51] <raven> release upgrade: need to download 5.5 gb - any way to create a wget list of the files to download it on another machine?
[12:51] <linuxthefish> anyone know some good virtualisation software for Ubuntu with directx support for games?
[12:51] <dBLOOD> kay
[12:51] <Ririshi> srhb: what is NTLDR?
[12:52] <tomreyn> em_: and free -m reports how much total?
[12:52] <srhb> Ririshi: The NT bootloader
[12:52] <Ririshi> srhb: you NEED both boot.ini and NTLDR?
[12:53] <srhb> Ririshi: Yes, without boot.ini NTLDR will try to load Windows from the first partition
[12:53] <em_> tomreyn, total - 3021
[12:53] <Ririshi> ah. so copying boot.ini.backup and naming it boot.ini and copying ntldr (both to root of sda4) would work? and then putting grub on sda4 to load it?
[12:54] <srhb> Ririshi: You dont want to put grub on sda4
[12:54] <srhb> Ririshi: You need to restore those files along with ntdetect.com and make sure the boot.ini entry matches the right partition number, ie. 4
[12:55] <Jordan_U> !pm | dBLOOD
[12:56] <Jordan_U> dBLOOD: Clearly though your path to the iso is incorrect. Double check it (and remember that case matters). You can also drag the iso file from nautilus into the terminal and it will enter the path into the terminal.
[12:56] <tomreyn> em_: okay, then i don't really know, sorry :-/ you could reinstall and use x86_64 instead, but that's not much fun of course.
[12:56] <tomreyn> em_:surely your intel GPU uses shared RAM
[12:56] <tomreyn> but not that much
[12:57] <Ririshi> srhb: i mean putting grub up so it searches for stuff on sda4
[12:57] <dBLOOD> okay, thx
[12:57] <em_> tomreyn, it could use only 256 mb of ram
[12:57] <srhb> Ririshi: It is, the bootloader is missing from sda3
[12:58] <Ririshi> srhb: so i need boot.ini and ntldr and ntdetect.com and make boot.ini to load from /dev/sda4? which would be partition(3) because it starts from 0
[12:58] <srhb> Ririshi: Grub is doing nothing wrong, your XP bootloader is missing.
[12:58] <tomreyn> em_: right
[12:58] <Ririshi> srhb: sda3? I haven't got anything installed on sda3?
[12:59] <ChocPanda> I have Ubuntu 12.10. Does anyone know how to solve the problem with nVidia proprietary drivers not working?
[12:59] <srhb> Ririshi: sda4 sorry
[12:59] <em_> tomreyn, http://pastebin.com/6xBWjFrC
[12:59] <ChocPanda> Mine change my screen resolution to tiny and only show me one monitor
[12:59] <srhb> Ririshi: Also, I think partition() starts from 1. So it is the fourth one.
[13:00] <tomreyn> em_: what about it?
[13:00] <Ririshi> srhb: everything starts from 0 here, multi, disk, rdisk, partition..
[13:00] <srhb> Ririshi: I'm fairly sure partition is the exception, but that's easy to test anyway.
[13:00] <Ririshi> srhb: yeah that's right.
[13:01] <em_> tomreyn, maybe problem is in linux kernel ?
[13:01] <srhb> Ririshi: Not my fault that MS has horrible standards. :-)
[13:01] <Ririshi> I'll try it like it is now.. partition(3). I mean, the partitions didn't change after i installed windows xp..
[13:01] <Ririshi> srhb: haha nope :D
[13:02] <Ririshi> So I'll be right back and tell you if it worked (:
[13:05] <ChocPanda> I have Ubuntu 12.10. Does anyone know how to solve the problem with nVidia proprietary drivers not working?
[13:05] <ChocPanda> Mine change my screen resolution to tiny and only show me one monitor
[13:05] <auronandace> ChocPanda: what was wrong with the nouveau driver?
[13:05] <WeechWeb> nVidia is working fine for me
[13:06] <WeechWeb> when im in ubuntu
[13:06] <tomreyn> em_: according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE the 12.10 kernel should have PAE enabled. but then this page was apparently composed before the 12.10 release, and it refers to kernel version 3.4 and a mailing list post dated in may, so it might be outdated already.
[13:06] <WeechWeb> users
[13:06] <WeechWeb> sorry
[13:06] <WeechWeb> how do i get up a user list?
[13:06] <WeechWeb> iv forgotten.
[13:06] <FloodBot1> WeechWeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <srhb> WeechWeb: A list of all users on the system or logged in users?
[13:07] <tomreyn> em_: i think it's likely to be a kernel issue. you could try to find out which lines you should be able to find on kern.log if PAE was enabled successfully and to search for them. I assume you would not find them.
[13:07] <WeechWeb> no i mean on IRC
[13:07] <WeechWeb> im new to IRC and wanna list users
[13:07] <WeechWeb> sorry
[13:07] <WeechWeb> im on Irssi
[13:07] <auronandace> WeechWeb: depends on your client
[13:08] <WeechWeb> Irssi
[13:08] <WeechWeb> sorry
[13:08] <WeechWeb> nvm ill try google again
[13:08] <ChocPanda> weechweb: nouveau has text render problems within gnome
[13:08] <srhb> WeechWeb: /names lists users in current channel.
[13:12] <raven> release upgrade: need to download 5.5 gb - any way to create a wget list of the files to download it on another machine?
[13:13] <rocky> hello guys
[13:14] <rocky> in my ubuntu 12.10, thru compiz manager animations are enables, still the animations are not happening when opening, closing or minimizing?
[13:14] <rocky> in my ubuntu 12.10, thru compiz manager animations are enabled, still the animations are not happening when opening, closing or minimizing?
[13:14] <srhb> !Patience | rocky
[13:15] <ChocPanda> Have you tried rebooting your xserver since changing the settings rocky?
[13:15] <Peyam> hi
[13:15] <Peyam> I use an thinkpad e330 and installed xubuntu 12.10
[13:16] <rocky> ChocPanda, no i didn't rebooted
[13:16] <Peyam> Im trying to increase the speed of the trackpoint but it doesnt actully become faster
[13:18] <ofcan> hello! I have 'unmet dependency' problem, can you please take a look, here's the code & everything, any help is awesome > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14006157/postgresql-9-1-dependency-issue
[13:18] <sjd_zeus> i use an hp probook 4321s and installed ubuntu 12.04
[13:18] <wessly> hello, how can i install properly a NVIDIA GT630M driver on 12.10?
[13:18] <sjd_zeus> open score driver?
[13:18] <diverdude> how can i pipe CLI output into clipboard?
[13:19] <Chocpanda`> rocky: I would recommend it because I believe you will need to reload the compiz configuration file
[13:19] <rocky> ChocPanda, i can give it a shot
[13:19] <diverdude> ahhh got it
[13:19] <srhb> diverdude: xclip is an example
[13:20] <wessly> diverdude: i dont know, fron nVidia website maybe.
[13:20] <Chocpanda`> wessly: within system settings there is a tab for additional drivers
[13:20] <rocky> ChocPanda, but wobbly window settings do take effect immediately
[13:21] <Chocpanda`> Hmmm... THat is strange. CHeck to ensure you don't have any conflicting settings.
[13:21] <rocky> ChocPanda, i don't get any message for conflicting settings
[13:21] <Ririshi> Hi srhb.
[13:22] <Chocpanda`> Compiz won't give you one.
[13:22] <wessly> Chocpanda`: in the Software sources i have a tab named Additional drivers, but only my wi-fi is there, not VC.
[13:22] <Chocpanda`> It doesn't have anything to ensure that its up to you to find it
[13:22] <rocky> ChocPanda, oh i wonder if it is conflicting with Unity
[13:22] <srhb> Ririshi: Hi.
[13:22] <wessly> Maybe i should allow third party software?
[13:23] <Chocpanda`> Wessly: Yes try that and then update
[13:24] <Ririshi> srhb: My PC completely stopped starting :p It says: error: unknown device and then the UUID of my sda5 ubuntu and then grub rescue>
[13:24] <Chocpanda`> rocky: Its possible. Unfortunatly I haven't got much experience with unity so I kinda need someone else to jump in here
[13:24] <srhb> Ririshi: Sounds like you screwed up your Grub configuration. What did you change? You were not supposed to make any alterations.
[13:25] <rocky> ChocPanda, no problems thanks for discussing
[13:25] <Chocpanda`> No prob. make sure you try the reboot though
[13:25] <srhb> Ririshi: Anyway, you can either use the grub prompt to boot correctly or get a liveCD.
[13:25] <rocky> Chocpanda`, noted
[13:26] <rudy__> join #emase
[13:26] <wessly> Chocpanda`: i allowed, updated and still nothing in add. drivers.
[13:26] <Ririshi> srhb: I only did update-grub after doing this: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys sudo chroot /mnt update-grub
[13:27] <Industrial> I installed unity-2d but I can't select anything in the login manager. I just get regulare unity.
[13:27] <Ririshi> srhb: My grub rescue prompt tells me that everything i put in it is an unknown command
[13:28] <Chocpanda`> wessly: A quick search has found me this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/104527/how-do-i-install-the-latest-nvidia-drivers-via-the-additional-drivers-tool
[13:29] <Industrial> Where in the login screen can I select Unity2D once installed?
[13:29] <Industrial> (12.10)
[13:30] <iceblue> any somebody here?
[13:30] <raven> release upgrade: need to download 5.5 gb - any way to create a wget list of the files to download it on another machine?
[13:30] <Industrial> iceblue: only otherbodies here.
[13:30] <Industrial> SNAP
[13:30] <iceblue> hahhaha
[13:33] <Industrial> looks like unity2d got removed
[13:33] <Industrial> what if I simply don't want fancy compositing? What if my vm is slow even though I installed the guiest additions?
[13:34] <Industrial> er, guest additions.
[13:34] <JohnWHSmith> Anybody knows if Rhythmbox 2.98 includes iOS support (libimobiledevice perhaps?) ?
[13:35] <JohnWHSmith> iOS6 I mean.
[13:35] <Industrial> I'm forced to switch distro again :(
[13:35] <cfhowlett> johntash: probably not io6 yet
[13:36] <JohnWHSmith> I heard the libimobiledevice now supported iOS6 sync, however I'm not sure if it has been implemented in music library management programs..
[13:38] <Ririshi> srhb: how can I make grub work again?
[13:38] <srhb> Ririshi: I suggest you boot the liveCD
[13:39] <Ririshi> And then srhb?
[13:40] <srhb> Ririshi: Afraid I am not an expert there. You'll need to reopen Grub and reinstall to MBT with the correct options. I suggest you pose that question to the entire channel.
[13:40] <srhb> Ririshi: Something like mounting your root partition, chrooting and grub-install'ing
[13:40] <IdleOne> !grub2 | Ririshi
[13:41] <IdleOne> Ririshi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub is the link you want to be reading.
[13:41] <Ririshi> Okay, thank you IdleOne
[13:41] <IdleOne> wait
[13:41] <IdleOne> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:41] <IdleOne> that one
[13:41] <Ririshi> Ok
[13:41] <srhb> First one looks good, too
[13:44] <SpaceRocket> I added openDNS servers to resolv.conf but when verifying at opendns.com/welcome it fails
[13:48] <Ririshi> srhb: IdleOne: I'll try boot-repair
[13:49] <SpaceRocket> I added openDNS servers to resolv.conf but when verifying at http://opendns.com/welcome it fails
[13:58] <subhojit777> How can I create a directory bookmark in Ubuntu 12.10. I was previously using Lubuntu 12.04 and there just by dragging the directory to the left sidebar creates bookmark. In Ubuntu 12.10 it doesnt work like that
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  in  nautilus, go to the folder you want, then, on top, click Bookmarks > add bookmark
[14:00] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, nope still not working. I tried that too
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  i'm not sure there's another way to do it
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> try ctrl D
[14:02] <subhojit777> :) its just the shortcut
[14:02] <subhojit777> MonkeyDust, is that an issue with nautilus?
[14:03] <subhojit777> nautilus 3.6.1 i think
[14:04] <Ririshi> SRHB THANK YOU :D
[14:04] <Ririshi> and of cource IdleOne, for providing the link to boot-repair!
[14:05] <IdleOne> glad to be of service
[14:05] <Ririshi> And that's why I love IRC.
[14:05] <Ririshi> I got helped so much alteady (;
[14:06] <Ririshi> Already*
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> subhojit777  ctrl D is the normal, fastest and easiest way to add a bookmark, i don't know of any issues with nautilus
[14:11] <aller> how to revert any changes to login screen & other related parts? I.e. reinstall their packages?
[14:11] <Aww>  
[14:16] <rrajbe> Hi, How can i create a virtual UDF File to share files between host and client in Virtualbox?
[14:21] <Kireji> just completed a dist0upgrade from 3.2.0-34-generic to 3.2.0-35-generic - and it requires a reboot to upgrade the kernel.  where can I read the changes and decide if I ned to do these reboots?
[14:21] <srhb> Kireji: The kernel changelog.
[14:22] <Kireji> srhb: :)  is that installed with the package?  how can I find it?
[14:23] <Kireji> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic/3.2.0-35.55 appears to be the relevant page, but no changelog
[14:23] <srhb> Kireji: Should be in /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog
[14:23] <srhb> Kireji: Or something like that. Browse your way to it. :)
[14:24] <Kireji> ahhh it appears teh changelog is in the source packagehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.2.0-35.55
[14:24] <Kireji> found it
[14:26] <Kireji> ok so both of these 3.2.0-35.55 and 3.2.0-35.54 are titled "urgency=low" in the changelog.  Why am I getting these as updates that require a dist-upgrade and a reboot?
[14:26] <Kireji> they are becoming *way* more frequent, and do not seem worth it
[14:26] <srhb> Kireji: Maybe you have some funky entries in your sources.list
[14:27] <Kireji> but when I use apt-get, I cannot determine which ones are "fix this or you'll be rooted" and which ones are "we fixed some race condition in ALSA"
[14:28] <srhb> Kireji: Like you did now, check the kernel changelog and decide for yourself. Why are you using dist-upgrade though?
[14:28] <Kireji> just this http://pastie.org/5568577
[14:29] <Kireji> because the kernel packages get held back
[14:29] <Kireji> they don't install otherwise
[14:29] <Kireji> srhb: exactly, finding the log, reading and checking.  the issue is now it happens every few weeks
[14:30] <Kireji> it's a waste of my time if the new kernel is not a serious hole to fix and it's definately affects our services to reboot 40 machines
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> Kireji  can you not choose to *not* upgrade? or refuse unneeded kernel upgrades?
[14:31] <srhb> Kireji: I don't understand your complaint. Do you mean to say that you want the package system to decide whether or not a given kernel version is useful for you?
[14:32] <Kireji> MonkeyDust: the issue is within the Ubuntu system it's not easy/possible to figure out teh severity of kernel upgrades
[14:32] <srhb> Kireji: The changelog!
[14:32] <srhb> Kireji: It's right there in /usr/share/doc ..
[14:33] <Kireji> srhb: The changelog! is not included!
[14:33] <Kireji> or easy to find
[14:33] <srhb> You mean before the update?
[14:33] <Kireji> ideally, yes, but I'd take it even after
[14:33] <Kireji> because it also requires a reboot, which is the real issue
[14:33] <srhb> Kireji: I see the changelog on my system.
[14:33] <Kireji> all services stop
[14:34] <Kireji> where?
[14:34] <Kireji> "where can I read the changes and decide if I ned to do these reboots?"
[14:34] <srhb> Kireji: In /usr/share/doc .
[14:35] <manju> hi
[14:35] <Kireji> zless /usr/share/doc/linux-image-3.2.0-35-generic/changelog.Debian.gz   oudn it
[14:35] <Kireji> found it
[14:35] <manju> hi
[14:35] <Kireji> thank you
[14:35] <srhb> Kireji: Welcome.
[14:38] <stigmata> i want to install a printer canon 6000 any idea?
[14:38] <root> hi
[14:39] <root> hello
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> srhb  i'm curious myself, what is the filename for the kernel changes?
[14:41] <srhb> MonkeyDust: The package changelog includes the changes that were deemed important in the Launchpad tracking.
[14:41] <srhb> (I think.)
[14:42] <srhb> If you want all the upstream changes, you really do need to go to kernel.org - but that's information overload in most cases I think.
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> srhb  yeah, but i mean the log file, this dude was looking for
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> ok
[14:43] <chadoh> tmux and irssi are not getting along for me. the scrolling is all off. When I PageUp, the top half of the page scrolls, and when I page down, the bottom half of the page scrolls. I'm sshed into an EC2 instance running Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. My local machine is running OS X 10.8.
[14:44] <thoonai> hey
[14:44] <thoonai> is kodak esp aio c310 stil unsupported
[14:44] <DerRidda> Hello dear lads & gents.
[14:44] <thoonai> ?
[14:45] <DerRidda> Anyone here familiar with the (mis)behavings whoopsie?
[14:46] <srhb> MonkeyDust: In /usr/local/doc/linux-image-[version]/changelog.Debian.gz you will find the package history. The upstream changes are logged as such
[14:47] <DerRidda> Legend of Grimrock crashed and sending the crashreport somehow involves whoopsie sending lots of data at over 100-150 kb/s.
[14:47] <DerRidda> I feel like I'm uploading the entire thing.
[14:47] <srhb> MonkeyDust: Of course, you can also use apt-get changelog
[14:51]  * DigitalEquinox pets the husky.
[14:51] <S`Husky> Don't even go there James
[14:52] <chadoh> haha
[14:52] <S`Husky> :P
[14:54] <someone235> can someone help me with vsftpd? I don't know how to config this.
[14:55] <S`Husky> What about it in particular
[14:55] <S`Husky> There are loads of ways of configuring an FTP daemon
[14:55] <S`Husky> Do you just want it to use unix accounts or virtual accounts from a database etc
[14:55] <DerRidda> Again, does anyone here know a bit about whoopsie?
[14:56] <iceroot> !anyone | DerRidda
[14:56] <Vegetablesalad> I'm trying to install ubuntu server.  I downloaded "ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso" made usb start disk from it.
[14:56] <Vegetablesalad> In tutorial its said that I have to "Select 'basic server install' (after language selection)" , but I cant find that anywhere. Entire installation process is the same as regular desktop version, and it installs just that.
[14:56] <Vegetablesalad> What am I doing wrong?
[14:56] <someone235> S`Husky , I just want it to work
[14:56] <iceroot> Vegetablesalad: the server version does not install a gui
[14:56] <someone235> I've installed it by this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html . but I can't connect from my pc.
[14:57] <S`Husky> someone235: for starters, is the daemon running
[14:57] <S`Husky> verify by doing 'ps ax | grep vsftpd' from a shell
[14:57] <someone235> yep it is
[14:58] <S`Husky> do you get an output with 'netstat -tapn | grep 21'
[14:59] <S`Husky> should be something like
[14:59] <S`Husky> tcp  0  0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:*  LISTEN  945/vsftpd
[14:59] <DerRidda> iceroot: I already asked the proper one but let's have it again: Legen of Grimrock crashed, I got prompted to send the usual crash report and now whoopsie is sending data at 130-150 kiB/s, hogging all my upload as if it was uploading all of the game including assets and I don't know what to do about it.
[14:59] <someone235> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:21              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      31944/vsftpd
[14:59] <someone235> S`Husky, ^^
[15:00] <S`Husky> any firewall on the box?
[15:00] <someone235> don't think so
[15:01] <someone235> S`Husky, it says "Response:	530 Login incorrect."
[15:01] <S`Husky> Oooh so its connecting
[15:01] <S`Husky> just not logging in
[15:01] <someone235> yep
[15:01] <someone235> sorry for not clarifying it
[15:01] <S`Husky> can you post your vsftpd config file to http://pastebin.com pleae
[15:02] <someone235> yep sec
[15:02] <cheshair> Hi! Can I use my Canon EOS camera as a webcam on my Ubuntu 12.10?
[15:03] <kramb> how to change date in ubuntu 12.04
[15:04] <kramb> i changed it and it automatically changes to default
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> !webcam > cheshair start here
[15:11] <someone235> S`Husky, http://pastebin.com/2Bz9za6m
[15:14] <cheshair> MonkeyDust: hey that's very kind of you! thanks
[15:16] <theadmin> When running fglrx on amd64, it seems it doesn't pull in various 32-bit opengl libs necessary for 32-bit apps (e.g. Steam, Wine) to work properly. Attempting to "apt-get install fglrx:i386" fails. How do I get those?
[15:17] <BugzGuy> Is there a better way to call a web page every X seconds than this using the command line in ubuntu? http://www.coderprofile.com/site/pastebin/16727
[15:18] <Vegetablesalad> So when I install ubuntu server it starts up, and I have regular ubuntu login screen, then it logs in and shows cursor and ubuntu desktop background with no UI. Is that right ?
[15:18] <plut0> any idea why mkinitramfs is failing in chroot? http://pastebin.com/NB8cQa1e
[15:18] <theadmin> plut0: Are /sys and /proc mounted?
[15:19] <plut0> theadmin: yes
[15:19] <theadmin> plut0: Hm... Ok I have no idea what /aufs is so that complaint seems weird to me
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> BugzGuy  guess you better ask that in #bash
[15:19] <plut0> theadmin: livecd
[15:19] <BugzGuy> Ah, my bad thanks MonkeyDust
[15:19] <theadmin> plut0: Oh...
[15:21] <plut0> any ideas?
[15:21] <theadmin> plut0: Nope, not really
[15:23] <quince> A question not strictly about ubuntu, but about using it in typical home wifi environments: I want to ssh to my nexus 7 (running ubuntu) from my ubuntu laptop, using the same wifi network in both cases.  That works fine on my home wifi network.  My question is: is that likely to work on typical home wifi networks?  Anybody know whether typical default routing & firewalling rules on home wifi routers are likely to stop th
[15:23] <quince> at working?
[15:24] <plut0> any idea why mkinitramfs is failing in chroot? http://pastebin.com/NB8cQa1e
[15:24] <theadmin> quince: Well, routers are very different, but I honestly don't see why any router would ever prevent you from accessing local devices
[15:25] <giu> ciao
[15:25] <giu> !list
[15:26] <quince> theadmin: thanks -- is this something you've tried in a bog-standard home network? (i.e. using anything not on port 80?)
[15:26] <quince> (or 443)
[15:27] <theadmin> quince: Well, I can easily ssh from my phone to my computer on my home network or access other computers around (e.g. ssh l@192.168.1.111)
[15:27] <quince> theadmin: so can I, but my setup (hand-tweaked openwrt) is not exactly typical, and I suspect yours isn't either?
[15:28] <theadmin> quince: Hm, mine is more-or-less typical (dd-wrt), but I have no problems with another network at home that's quite typical (D-Link router with default firmware)
[15:28] <alexfu> Hello guys, I installed GNOME 3 and applied a custom theme. Some applications such as xchat, synaptic, and chrome are still using the classic GTK theme. how do I get those applications to use the current user theme?
[15:29] <quince> theadmin: great, that reassures me I needn't bother bashing my head against the usbnet wall :-)
[15:30] <killer> i have an aptoncd created iso file which i have mounted in "home/killer/pack" and have added to sources.list "deb file:///home/killer/pack precise killer", yet i can't install any softwares from it ?
[15:30] <someone235> S`Husky, ?
[15:30] <S`Husky> someone235: Sorry, million things going on
[15:30] <someone235> it's ok
[15:32] <raven> release upgrade: need to download 5.5 gb - any way to create a wget list of the files to download it on another machine?
[15:33] <S`Husky> someone235: Do you have an vsftpd logs in /var/log?
[15:34] <raven> release upgrade: need to download 5.5 gb - any way to create a wget list of the files to download it on another machine?
[15:34] <theadmin> !repeat | raven
[15:34] <quince> raven: no need to ask twice.  I was just about to answer
[15:34] <jodlajodla> hello! i have problem with temperature on acer aspire one 725 - temperature in idle is about 70° C and in load about 80° to 85° C... what can I do, because I think this are not normal temperatures?
[15:34] <S`Husky> jodlajodla: That probably isnt an ubuntu issue. More hardware.
[15:35] <S`Husky> Are the heatsinks clogged with dirt?
[15:35] <quince> raven: how about running apt-cacher-ng on the other machine, then editing your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to that machine?
[15:35] <plut0> any idea why mkinitramfs is failing in chroot? http://pastebin.com/NB8cQa1e
[15:35] <quince> raven: or does it have to be completely offline for some reason?
[15:36] <Syncsys_> how to know my lan ip address?
[15:36] <theadmin> Syncsys_: ip addr
[15:36] <jodlajodla> S`Husky so you're saying this are normal temperatures and I don't have to worry about that?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> raven  in a terminal, type apt cache show apt-cacher-ng
[15:37] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: You missed a -
[15:37] <quince> raven: or use apt-offline? (I've never used that)
[15:37] <S`Husky> jodlajodla: I'm saying its not a software issue.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  true :)
[15:37] <marty> hi. might there be somebody able and willing to help me get my required resolution setup, please? i have a dreaded sis671 to contend with. i followed these instructions: http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php yet am still stuck using vesa
[15:37] <Syncsys_> theadmin,  there are so many ip addrses. which one is mine? i use eth2
[15:37] <S`Husky> jodlajodla: check that the fan and the heatsync are not full of dirt
[15:37] <someone235> S`Husky, yes http://pastebin.com/vCVZAaDV
[15:38] <jodlajodla> S`Husky computer is new ;)
[15:38] <theadmin> Syncsys_: The one that comes up in your interface after "inet "
[15:38] <Syncsys_> theadmin,  there are 2 inets
[15:38] <S`Husky> idle at 70 is a bit high
[15:38] <S`Husky> but ive seen load temps of up to 80
[15:38] <S`Husky> sometimes higher
[15:39] <theadmin> marty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Sis
[15:39] <S`Husky> someone235: are you using your ubuntu username to try and log in?
[15:39] <theadmin> Syncsys_: Well, the one that matches with your interface.
[15:39] <marty> theadmin: it was from that page i was linked to my provided link
[15:39] <hikenboot> can anyone explain to me why when I add a tcp/ip sub interface to a newtwork card the system takes 10 mintues to boot getting beyound the networking?
[15:39] <jodlajodla> S`Husky i already installed fglrx-updates and it's a few degrees colder, but this is still hot -> is it possible that k10temp is showing wrong temperature?
[15:39] <hikenboot> s/beyound/beyond
[15:40] <S`Husky> its always a possibility. but I couldn't give you a definate yes or no on that one
[15:40] <theadmin> marty: Oh bah, sorry
[15:40] <marty> theadmin: hehe, np
[15:40] <someone235> S`Husky, yes
[15:40] <quince> hikenboot: presumably you've had a look in the logs?
[15:40] <hikenboot> /var/log/dmesg?
[15:40] <S`Husky> someone235: I had to ask because the log shows that you are using the username "root" to log into ftp
[15:40] <marty> theadmin: it works fine when using the sisimedia driver (mandriva/mageia) so this -is- possible. i just don't know how :(
[15:41] <S`Husky> Wouldn't recommend that at all tbh
[15:41] <quince> I usually sudo grep -rli /var/log ...
[15:41] <quince> but yes, dmesg is a good place to start
[15:41] <Syncsys_> theadmin,  got it.  I can see it and when in browser. my webserver shows up a website that is runing on the linux machine. but I cant access files and folders that are shared in linux, from windows. why?
[15:41] <someone235> S`Husky, yes, my mistake. Next time I'll try from another user
[15:42] <theadmin> Syncsys_: Not really familiar with samba so can't help you there
[15:42] <someone235> S`Husky, but u have any idea what it is not working?
[15:42] <Vegetablesalad> I installed ubuntu server and now when I'm upgrading i see it downloads updates for libre office and gtk and a lot more gui software, why is that ?
[15:42] <Syncsys_> theadmin,  no problem
[15:42] <S`Husky> someone235: the root password is disabled in default installations of ubuntu
[15:42] <S`Husky> is one reason possibly
[15:42] <jodlajodla> S`Husky ok, because I think it is - max working temp for my processor is 90° C and lm-sensors is saying critical is 100° C?
[15:43] <fermulator> I have my root ubuntu parition @ /dev/mapper/isw_fegbaeadg_RAID0_SSD1.  When I boot into Ubuntu 12.04 LIVECD, it for some reason auto-mounts that partition to /cdrom as read-only.  So I force unmount it, but my ubuntu root partition is still "busy".  (http://pastebin.com/NeaF8vrK) What can I do to fix this? (I need to mount it rw to repair grub).
[15:43] <S`Husky> jodlajodla: I'd keep an eye on it.
[15:44] <S`Husky> someone235: Failing that, please add this to your vsftpd config file. pam_service_name=vsftpd
[15:45] <someone235> S`Husky, what it means?
[15:45] <S`Husky> apparantly its an issue people have had before
[15:45] <S`Husky> where vsftpd trys to use the ftpd service with pam
[15:45] <S`Husky> and fails
[15:45] <S`Husky> so specifing vsftpd has been shown to resolve the problem
[15:45] <strontium> anyone have any ideas why my physical network cards keep starting as "down" on boot but if i manually go "ip link set LanA up" i can manually up them?
[15:46] <jaime> im having problems getting flash player to work in firefox
[15:46] <jaime> any help!?!
[15:46] <seednode> jaime: Which package did you install?
[15:46] <theadmin> jaime: Well, you'll need to define what you've done so far
[15:46] <bekks> !flash | jaime
[15:46] <jaime> tried flash aid in firefox but didnt work
[15:47] <S`Husky> someone235: other than that, I'm out of ideas buddy :(
[15:47] <theadmin> jaime: stop, drop and sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[15:47] <jaime> so tried downloading new version from website and installed, moved one of the files to firefox plugins but still no luck!
[15:47] <someone235> S`Husky, It works! It just disallow the "root" :)
[15:47] <someone235> Thank you very much!
[15:47] <S`Husky> :)
[15:47] <S`Husky> no problems
[15:48] <theadmin> jaime: Seriously, this is Linux, you don't install software from wobsites, you search the repositories (through the Ubuntu Software Center, Synaptic or command-line utilities)
[15:48] <Vegetablesalad> When installing ubuntu server from tutorial:
[15:48] <Vegetablesalad> 1)At the boot prompt you will be asked to select the language. 2)Select 'basic server install'.
[15:48] <Vegetablesalad> I didn't have this option, It was regular GUI install screen as with ubuntu desktop.
[15:48] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: ...Then you're not installing Ubuntu Server.
[15:48] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: You have a wrong image
[15:48] <quince> hikenboot: just a wild guess -- is it configured to dhcp on the sub interface? (in /etc/network/interfaces)  is it failing to do that?  If that seems likely you can try running sudo dhclient <interface name> to reproduce the problem
[15:48] <Vegetablesalad> How do I get 'basic server install' ?
[15:48] <S`Husky> Vegetablesalad: its a differnt disc image
[15:48] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: Do you use the ubuntu server cd?
[15:49] <axioo> Hi, when I make my cpu work too much a kernel panic happens. As I couldn't have crashlog I used netconsole. Here is what I get just before the crash: http://pastebin.com/Ycaae8hP What should I do?
[15:49] <Vegetablesalad> bekks: theadmin: I'm using "ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso"
[15:49] <S`Husky> Vegetablesalad: the ISO should be called ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso when you download it
[15:49] <hikenboot> no its configured with a static address..but let me double check I do see one message here pci 0000:00:18:5 BAR 13 can't assign io (size 0x1000)
[15:49] <S`Husky> or that
[15:49] <Vegetablesalad> from usb flash
[15:49] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: What's the MD5 of that?
[15:50] <quince> strontium: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces?  Maybe missing an "auto LanA" line?
[15:50] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: Has to be: a8c667e871f48f3a662f3fbf1c3ddb17
[15:50] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: From where did you download it?
[15:50] <Vegetablesalad> from ubuntu.com
[15:50] <bekks> axioo: You have a faulty CPU.
[15:50] <Vegetablesalad> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[15:51] <hikenboot> I found a typo with my dns server address rebooting to see if it fixes the problem
[15:51] <jaime> no flashplugin-installer hasnt worked neither
[15:51] <theadmin> Odd. The server images simply don't *have* a graphical installer
[15:52] <rdw200169> theadmin: they won't.  its pretty much a rule that you don't install a graphical environment on a server
[15:52] <theadmin> rdw200169: I was talking to Vegetablesalad, who claims that updating a server install pulls in a GUI, and that the installer is graphical.
[15:52] <theadmin> rdw200169: I do have common sense ;)
[15:53] <Vegetablesalad> theadmin: I how do check it ?
[15:53] <rdw200169> theadmin: fair enough ;)
[15:53] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: Well, on Linux, md5sum /path/to/ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[15:53] <Vegetablesalad> i have file "md5sum.txt" on iso - it's full of md5 for folders, but where is global ?
[15:53] <Vegetablesalad> oh ok
[15:54] <fermulator> When I boot Ubuntu LiveCD (12.04), it automatically mounts me real root ubuntu parittion as /cdrom!!  Why does it do this?
[15:54] <Vegetablesalad> theadmin: "a8c667e871f48f3a662f3fbf1c3ddb17  /home/usr/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.1-server-amd64.is"
[15:55] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: Then visit the website again, and compare the md5sum
[15:55] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad:  Ok now this is simply weird
[15:55] <Vegetablesalad> I'll try  to make new usb startup
[15:55] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: First, please compare the md5 sum.
[15:56] <axioo> bekks: How do I solve that?
[15:56] <bekks> axioo: By getting a new CPU from the CPU dealer of your choice.
[15:56] <hikenboot> I am getting lots of messages in dmesg that say apparmor="STATUS" is that normal
[15:56] <theadmin> bekks: I already had him do that, his matches the md5 of the server image
[15:57] <Vegetablesalad> theadmin:bekks: I found the problem. http://img.lejup.lv/images/lejupgtbwjfz1356278250.png
[15:58] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: :P
[15:58] <quince> fermulator: that does seem odd.  Is it stopping you from doing something?
[15:59] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: Heh.
[15:59] <Vegetablesalad> When I select server iso It doesn't select it it just adds it to list like this: http://img.lejup.lv/images/lejupijuhbvb1356278347.png
[15:59] <Vegetablesalad> I didn't see that its still on desktop v
[15:59] <strontium> is there any reason why my network cards start down and I have to manually stop networking, up them and restart networking to get the network to run?  They are all listed as auto in /etc/network/interfaces ??
[16:00] <Vegetablesalad> theadmin: bekks: Sorry for hustle, and thanks for help.
[16:00] <quince> strontium: probably the answer is in the logs somewhere.  Any luck there?
[16:00] <theadmin> Vegetablesalad: Happens.
[16:01] <strontium> quince, nope neither udev nor dmesg say anything, except they are "down"  no reason why.
[16:01] <quince> how are you adding the sub interface?
[16:02] <strontium> quince, I don't know what you mean by sub interface
[16:02] <quince> strontium: maybe post your dmesg and see if somebody else can spot something out of the ordinary
[16:02] <quince> strontium: oh, sorry, mixing you up with somebody else
[16:03] <bekks> Vegetablesalad: You have to choose from the list. Click on the item you want to select as the source.
[16:03] <konam> for some reason, the flash plugin that ubuntu installs using the official firefox wizard doesn't seem to load videos effectively
[16:03] <konam> the flash plugin is there, but the videos never actually begin to load or play
[16:03] <konam> ubuntu 12.10
[16:04] <quince> strontium: still, posting your dmesg for last book might help
[16:04] <Miloa> yo
[16:05] <Treadstone__71> I have a question about Steam + updates. I have installed STeam but when I try to update via the update manager I get Requeires installation of untruesed packages and it dies  ? (steam:i386)
[16:05] <quince> konam: dpkg -l flashplugin-installer
[16:06] <quince> that's what I installed -- I didn't use the firefox UI
[16:07] <konam> quince do you have the same issue? that package appears as installed on synaptic
[16:07] <quince> konam: erm, I'm actually on 12.04, and no
[16:07] <quince> didn't notice you said 12.10
[16:09] <red_Rudy> Hi everybody !
[16:09] <quince> konam: if it's youtube you're after you could always try enabling their HTML5 trial (google it)
[16:09] <konam> quince is not because of youtube since it does use html5 automatically if it doesn't find a suitable flash plugin
[16:09] <quince> konam: last I heard Adobe stopped supporting flash on linux, so it may rot
[16:09] <Treadstone__71> Anyone?
[16:10] <quince> konam: so perhaps it believes it has found one, but that plugin does not work
[16:10] <konam> which is part of the problem, since it goes to the html5 version even with flash "installed"
[16:10] <quince> konam: it is possible to ask youtube to try html5 first, and ignore flash unless it html5 wouldn't work for a particular video
[16:10] <theadmin> quince: Mozilla and Google are developing their own Flash implementations so even if it will "rot" nobody will ever notice anything
[16:10] <theadmin> quince: Well, unless you use Opera
[16:11] <quince> theadmin: oh, cool (er, I think... maybe I'd prefer it to rot :-)
[16:12] <quince> konam: ah.  How did you verify that that's what it's doing?
[16:13] <thinker_> have people
[16:13] <hikenboot> interesting enough i also found this messgae ADDRCONF (NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready...dont get this when the sub interface isnt attached
[16:13] <quince> konam: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer from command line and see if it prints something informative?
[16:13] <hikenboot> it says somthing about IPv6
[16:13] <hikenboot> should i some how try and remove IP6
[16:14] <tisse> yeah, so i installed mint just now
[16:14] <ThinkT510> !mint | tisse
[16:14] <tisse> installed nvdiia drivers and taskpar disappeared
[16:14] <tisse> argh
[16:14] <tisse> thanks
[16:14] <tisse> !mint
[16:14] <tisse> öh
[16:14] <tisse> aeehå
[16:14] <FloodBot1> tisse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <tisse> psorry
[16:15] <theadmin> hikenboot: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/disable-ipv6-if-your-internet-is.html
[16:15] <hikenboot> thanks theadmin
[16:19] <bmease> I'm getting 10 second freezes every minute or two when i ssh into one of my boxes, any suggestions on how to track down what the problem is?
[16:19] <quince> hikenboot: sorry if this is obvious: if that doesn't work, remember to look at the dmesg timestamps to see where it stops doing much for a long time
[16:19] <dwatkins> bmease: I got that as a result of the caching of the bash command suggestions, I think there's a bug open for it
[16:20] <bmease> dwatkins: thanks i'll search for it
[16:20] <hikenboot> thanks quincy  I will keep it in mind...thanks a lot for the suggestion
[16:22] <Naeblis> I can't see any audio control working. tail -f'ing .xsession-errors gives me this: "** (gnome-volume-control-applet:1929): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting...
[16:23] <quince> bmease: little tip that sometimes makes that kind of bug less aggravating: hit return, then ~, then . (period) -- that will disconnect the ssh session
[16:23] <Naeblis> any ideas how I can fix this?
[16:25] <question12345> hi all
[16:25] <question12345> somebody here?
[16:25] <lws> Well? all my audio stuff has mysteriously disappeared
[16:25] <bmease> quince: thanks, just gave it a go and that will help.
[16:25] <lws> XBMC can play audio, but nothing else seems to be able to -- and I have no audio preferences.
[16:25] <question12345> somebody here?
[16:26] <quince> Naeblis: is this just default configuration, or have you configured pulse at all?
[16:26] <quince> question12345: just ask
[16:26] <Naeblis> quince, not sure? I'm using alsa...
[16:27] <lws> anybody know what the proper package is for sound config?  Some update must have removed it.
[16:28] <quince> lws: does aplay work?  aplay /old/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/share/gallery/sounds/apert.wav
[16:28] <plut0> any idea why i'm getting this error inside a chroot? http://pastebin.com/RatMpU3G
[16:28] <lws> I don't have that wav file
[16:28] <lws> No it does not
[16:28] <lws> at least not with other wav files
[16:29] <question12345> should i take ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?!?!?!
[16:29] <wrq6152> quince: /old seems a weird toplevel directory
[16:29] <question12345> should i take ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?!?!?!
[16:29]  * lws grumbles about how shit changes every time he sits down to use his computer.
[16:29] <lws> I had this all setup a couple weeks ago.
[16:30] <lws> XBMC seems to be working fine too. It's real odd.
[16:30] <xangua> !language | lws
[16:32] <question12345> no help???
[16:32] <bekks> question12345: It is your decision which Ubuntu you want to use.
[16:32] <question12345> better 12.10 or 12.04? :)
[16:32] <ThinkT510> question12345: depends what you want
[16:33] <question12345> well i want stable and up to date
[16:33] <bekks> !best | question12345
[16:33] <mrhyde> how do i make ubuntu render sharper font? i'm using ubuntu on a 13inch mbp and the font on firefox seems fuzzy
[16:33] <bekks> !lts | question12345
[16:33] <ThinkT510> question12345: 12.04 longer support, 12.10 more recent apps
[16:33] <question12345> well i don't want to upgrade every 6 months!!!!!
[16:33] <lws> quince: Any other ideas?  Audio is working, XBMC can play.  Everything else is not working though :/
[16:33] <quince> wrq6152: oops -- meant to strip that off, sorry (I have an old filesystem mounted there, locate turned that up)
[16:33] <bekks> question12345: Then dont do it, use LTS instead.
[16:33] <lws> quince: Also, all my sound preferences have disappeared.
[16:33] <question12345> bekks: thank you
[16:34] <question12345> bekks: with unity or gnome 3? :)
[16:34] <dylan> So I want to start ubuntu without starting X,but still be able to log into my acc, how do I do this?
[16:34] <dylan> or alternatively, how do I kill X whil logged in
[16:34] <ThinkT510> question12345: try both see what you like
[16:34] <dylan> I just want a CLI
[16:34] <bekks> question12345: Please take a look at 12.04 before :P
[16:34] <konam> quince dpkg reconfigure asks me for the location of the flash plugin, i don't know if it always asks for it but it seems that it doesn't recognize the plugin as being installed, even though the browser does (even if the video doesn't ever play, it does show to be using the plugin right clicking on it)
[16:34] <plut0> any idea why i'm getting this error inside a chroot? http://pastebin.com/RatMpU3G
[16:34] <question12345> bekks:  ThinkT510 i heard gnome 3 in ubuntu is NOT as good as it could be
[16:34] <quince> lws: so aplay works, right?
[16:35] <ThinkT510> question12345: i don't use gnome3
[16:35] <question12345> ThinkT510: what you use???
[16:35] <dylan> So I want to start ubuntu without starting X,but still be able to log into my acc, how do I do this?
[16:35] <bekks> question12345: I dont care what other people hear. Take a look at 12.04, then try the desktop environments you want to try, ,and then choose the one you want to use.
[16:35] <ThinkT510> question12345: unity, but xfce is my favourite
[16:36] <ThinkT510> question12345: like bekks says, try them and see what you like
[16:36] <question12345> bekks: ThinkT510 is xfce also LTS?
[16:36] <question12345> 5 years?
[16:36] <dylan> How do I stop X and drop into a command line>
[16:36] <bekks> question12345: Please read the link you have been given.
[16:36] <dylan> I don't want the GUI using up resources
[16:36] <question12345> what link
[16:36] <bekks> !lts | question12345
[16:37] <quince> Naeblis: which version of gnome-media do you have?  dpkg -l gnome-media
[16:37] <dylan> How do I stop X and drop into a command line?  I don't want the GUI using up resources.
[16:37] <bekks> question12345: No link but the text ubottu told you.
[16:37] <mrpink57> dylan: you could edit grub to start in init 3
[16:37] <bekks> !patience > dylan
[16:37] <Naeblis> quince,  2.32.0-0ubuntu7
[16:38] <red_Rudy> Hi everybody (again)!
[16:38] <dylan> mrpink57: how do I go about doing that?
[16:38] <lws> quince: No, aplay does not work.
[16:39] <quince> Naeblis: as a workaround, you could try pkill pulseaudio
[16:39] <question12345> bekks: ThinkT510 i'll try Xubuntu 12.04 it has 3 years!!!!!!!!!
[16:39] <sheikhmak> hey guys I have a conceptual conception, i'm trying to setup x11vnc over ssh tunnel
[16:39] <mrpink57> dylan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904347 start there and work forward.  honestly if you're green on doing this it won't be easy as it goes
[16:39] <sheikhmak> the host that runs the ssh server and vnc servers, I wanted to know if I could keep the vnc port shut and it will still work ?
[16:40] <sheikhmak> *shit conceptual question lol
[16:40] <Naeblis> quince, don't have pulseaudio installed, so that won't work, I think
[16:40] <lws> quince: My card shows up in HDA-intel, but in pulseaudio volume control it only shows the dummy output.
[16:40] <compdoc> sheikhmak, shut on the server, or shut on the firewall?
[16:40] <quince> sheikhmak: why would it work?  Have you looked at sshuttle?
[16:41] <sheikhmak> compdoc, on the firewall, I'm trying to understand if ssh tunneling means, only the ssh port could remain open
[16:41] <bekks> question12345: Dont use punctuation signs that excessively. They do NOT attract people, they annoy people.
[16:42] <compdoc> sheikhmak, long ago I started using a vpn to admin my customer's servers. No ports have to be open in the firewall for ssh or vnc
[16:42] <compdoc> but you got the concept right
[16:44] <dylan> mrpink57: That works, but I can't do what I need to do
[16:45] <bekks> dylan: Then tell us what you really want to do?
[16:45] <dylan> I'm trying to run a CLI program with mono.  I tried to run it in the root shell prompt, but it just displayed some version info
[16:45] <sheikhmak> compdoc, I've shut all the ports on my ubuntu host, I only open a random port that I run ssh off. For security I used to use x11vnc with certificates, but that solution i couldn't find an android client that will achieve that. so I decided to use ssh tunneling. And I'm trying to figure out, obviously the ssh port have to be opened, but i'm trying to see if the vnc's port gotta be open as well, if it does, defeats my original purp
[16:45] <sheikhmak> ose
[16:45] <bekks> dylan: Do NOT run applications as root unless knowing what you are doing there very well.
[16:46] <dylan> bekks: I'm well aware of that
[16:46] <compdoc> sheikhmak, not with a tunnel. But other than a vpn, Ive never used a tunnel
[16:46] <dylan> SO
[16:46] <Krenair> Anyone know how to force the close/minimise/maximise buttons at the top left of the screen to stay there, even when the window isn't maximised?
[16:46] <quince> Naeblis: maybe that's the problem?   Sorry, can't find the source code for it easily, I probably got the package name wrong...
[16:47] <Krenair> (in unity)
[16:47] <ThinkT510> Krenair: they will stay there when the window isn't maximised
[16:47] <othrguy> hello, is it possible to some1 help me with an issue i have? ( backing-up_ or point me in the right direction?
[16:47] <Krenair> Well it doesn't work for me
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[16:48] <ThinkT510> Krenair: maybe i misunderstood you
[16:48] <Krenair> ThinkT510, when I make a window non-maximised, I can only see the first part of the window title in the top left
[16:48] <Krenair> The buttons disappear from the bar at the top and follow the window title bar
[16:49] <Krenair> I don't mind them being on the title bar, but they should stay on the bar at the top as well
[16:49] <othrguy> is it possible to get some help here?
[16:49] <ThinkT510> Krenair: i see, i don't know how to help with that sorry
[16:49] <joey8> othrguy→ what is your problem
[16:50] <othrguy> i need to backup my whole system, if i tar the home folder, do i also backup all the installed software?
[16:50] <ThinkT510> othrguy: no
[16:50] <othrguy> is there any way i could backup my software as well then?
[16:50] <Syncsys__> what is the min requirmnet for HDD and Ram for 64 bit and 32 bit ubuntu/kubuntu
[16:51] <quince> konam: if you're prepared to dig more you'll probably figure out what's wrong eventually, but a violent but easy workaround that might help if you're getting frustrated WHICH WILL DELETE ALL YOUR FIREFOX DATA (bookmarks, etc. etc.):  try apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree firefox and then reinstall them
[16:51] <quince> sheikhmak: google it
[16:52] <ThinkT510> !backup | othrguy
[16:52] <quince> lws: you can ignore pulseaudio until you've got the alsa command working
[16:52] <lws> quince: I don't know what happened, my audio was working fine. *grumble*
[16:53] <quince> lws: the alsa irc people have a script called alsa-info.sh (google it) which might be helpful
[16:53] <othrguy> alright i will read on them, thanks a lot guys :>
[16:53] <tcafmi> I have changed my hostname, since then I get the message "xxx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." . how can I change the /etc/sudoers file?
[16:53] <lws> quince: Sat down to play my keyboard this morning, and it was broken
[16:53] <quince> lws: in my experience, alsa is like that :-(
[16:53] <lws> quince:  In my experience, linux is like that.    I switched from gentoo to ubuntu because every time I went to use my machine on the weekends something new was unexpectedly broken. :/
[16:54] <quince> lws: actually that's not quite fair -- it doesn't break for me unless I change something.  But it usually seems sound doesn't work on a clean install, for me (apparently I'm unusual in that, though...)
[16:54] <hikenboot> is there a way to get the screen loging on boot to show a time stamp
[16:54] <lws> I though fsck.ext4 was supposed to run really quickly?
[16:54] <quince> lws: well, that's not unexpected with gentoo, but it would be unexpected with ubuntu, IME
[16:54] <lws> ubuntu has been saying it will fsck my drives next startup for months, so I'm manually running it -- and getting tons of messages
[16:55] <Syncsys__> what is the min requirmnet for HDD and Ram for 64 bit and 32 bit ubuntu/kubuntu
[16:55] <quince> lws: (not knocking gentoo, it's just designed like that, really)
[16:55] <lws> quince: yeah, gentoo is not for someone who doesn't want to manually edit config files every time they run an update.
[16:55] <sheikhmak> quince alright I see a bit how it works, forward all traffic through ssh.
[16:56] <ThinkT510> !requirements | Syncsys__
[16:56] <lws> This does not look good
[16:57] <lws> I'm getting hundreds of read errors on my drive -- my drive which seems to be working fine.
[16:57] <lws> :/
[16:57] <bekks> lws: Then it is failing, most likely.
[16:58] <immortel> nnn
[16:58] <quince> lws: probably want to remount read-only (or boot from a CD or USB stick) and backup right away
[16:58] <lws> quince: I unmounted it and am running fsck
[16:58] <immortel> le logiciel ubuntu me foue la merde
[16:58] <lws> host bus error....
[16:59] <immortel> what
[16:59] <theadmin> !fr | immortel
[16:59] <immortel> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:00] <immortel> bjr
[17:00] <mrhyde> how do i make firefox have sharper text on ubuntu? I see it  fuzzy on my 13inch macbook pro screen
[17:00] <max999> immortel: tu as d utilizier /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:01] <immortel> oui
[17:01] <quince> sheikhmak: uh, think I was thinking of something else when I said sshuttle --oops, sorry!  have to go now...
[17:01] <theadmin> immortel: avec /
[17:02] <immortel> je n arrive plus a me connecter sur aucun site avec ubuntu
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[17:03] <immortel> join #ubuntu-qc
[17:04] <max999> immortel: tu es ecrit join #ubuntu-fr mais tu nas pas utilize le /
[17:04] <Syncsys__>  clueless problem . tring to share files in windows and linux. works ok in a wifi router connected to a dsl. slow thought but ok.    when i try to make a hotspot between  the computers or use wires with a seperate switch. either i cant see share folders. (i can ping each other and even see a webpage runing on linux machine)     and some times when i do see folders and try to copy files that are large. it breads down in middle and th
[17:04] <Syncsys__> e folders disappear again.
[17:05] <immortel> stupide
[17:06] <plut0> is the EFI fat partition required to boot off a uefi board?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> plut0  this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:10] <frenzy> Today my OCZ boot disk said byebye. I am reinstalling from scratch however next time i'd like to have a BMR solution. Provided that i do not care about restoring single files and my root filesystem is small (5gb) is there any super easy solution without a gui? I could go in single user and DD /dev/sda1 to a file, that would be enough, but id like to have something be able to run via cron
[17:10] <ikonia> frenzy: it's that simple
[17:10] <frenzy> ah, and, p.s. i am not using LVM
[17:11] <frenzy> just ext4 on sda1
[17:11] <ikonia> still that simple
[17:11] <ikonia> frenzy: may want to back up the MBR too
[17:11] <frenzy> ikonia: no, let's say i do not care about the mbr, i can reinstall grub if the ssd dies, i just want a copy of the o.s.
[17:12] <frenzy> i have a local (non ssd) disk where i can store the copy
[17:13] <ikonia> frenzy: do that then
[17:13] <ikonia> frenzy: remember your uuid refernece may change
[17:13] <ikonia> so you'll have to adjust that potentiallyu
[17:13] <frenzy> do what?
[17:13] <ikonia> change any reference to UUID's
[17:13] <frenzy> i am not referencing the uuid :)
[17:13] <ikonia> (post restore)
[17:14] <ikonia> frenzy: you are, they will be referenced by grub, by your fstab etc
[17:14] <frenzy> ok, but how do i backup online ?? i cannot just "DD" the disk while mounted rw
[17:14] <llutz> frenzy: daily-cronjob syncing / onto 2nd drive, mounted at /mnt for this:  "rsync -Haurx --delete-after --exclude="/etc/fstab" --exclude="/etc/mtab" --exclude="/boot/grub/grub.cfg" / /mnt/ "
[17:14] <ikonia> frenzy: yes, dd it while mounted
[17:14] <ikonia> (just the partition)
[17:14] <ikonia> it's better to do it offline, however it can be doneonline
[17:14] <ikonia> done online
[17:15] <frenzy> well, no, unless ext4 has some sort of snap functionality, if fs is synced in the meanwhile i might end up with a corrupted image
[17:15] <ikonia> frenzy: it has no such thing
[17:15] <ikonia> and you won't end up with a corrupted image
[17:15] <ikonia> your only risk is inflight files such as log files
[17:15] <ikonia> which I'm assuming you'd have no issue zeroing
[17:16] <ikonia> or living without a line or two
[17:16] <g_byers> brb
[17:16] <frenzy> i usually mount /var/log in ramfs, so that's easy
[17:16] <frenzy> llutz: like your approach but id like a "huge" single file, faster to restore
[17:17] <llutz> frenzy: but my 2nd drive runs while the orig ssd died :)
[17:17] <frenzy> ikonia: however i am not really sure it will work, "dd" is not a snapshot, it might take 20 minutes to do the copy, did you tried this in the past?
[17:18] <ikonia> frenzy: it will take 20 minutes...it's not a snapshot, it's block by block copy of the device
[17:18] <jayar> i'm getting constant failure errors and 'bug reporting' events from smbd
[17:18] <frenzy> ikonia: exactly, in 20 minutes everything could change inside an fs structure, the resulting image might be just garbage
[17:19] <Echelon_I247> Hi, can anybody help me with identifying. In IRC.. Please.
[17:19] <auronandace> !register | Echelon_I247
[17:19] <theadmin> Echelon_I247: #freenode can
[17:19] <root__> .
[17:20] <ikonia> frenzy: then you have to start accepting the limitations
[17:20] <\\Mr_C\\> when i make a script for console with nano editor, how do i make it so i dont have to type ./ before the scriptname?
[17:20] <ikonia> frenzy: either a.) take the system down b.) use an online backup such as rsync c.) accept the limitations of dd'ing an online partition d.) purchase an enterprise backup application
[17:20] <frenzy> frenzy: yes, but if i am not sure about the copy then i prefer llutz approach which is 100% safe
[17:20] <theadmin> \\Mr_C\\: You can put it to any directory in your $PATH, e.g. ~/bin or /usr/local/bin
[17:20] <Echelon_I247> auronandace: I already registered my name I just wanted to Identify..
[17:20] <\\Mr_C\\> its in my root folder and im in the root folder
[17:21] <Keriin> .
[17:21] <llutz> Echelon_I247: /msg nickserv identify  s3cr3t
[17:21] <auronandace> Echelon_I247: /msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[17:21] <BluesKaj> Echelon_I247, it's ususally , /msg nickserv identify password
[17:21] <yugnip> \\Mr_C\\, make sure that 'executable' is checked in the scripts permissions
[17:21] <frenzy> ikonia: it would be nice to have snapshots in ext4, dreaming zfs on boot
[17:21] <auronandace> Echelon_I247: make sure you do it outside a channel
[17:21] <llutz> frenzy: easy, use solaris
[17:21] <theadmin> \\Mr_C\\: Well, you either put it to a folder in your $PATH or use the full path to it (. is just a shortcut to "current directory")
[17:22] <ikonia> frenzy: you don't have snapshots in ext4 - so it's pointless wishing for it
[17:22] <ikonia> frenzy: work a solution with what you do have
[17:22] <BluesKaj> Echelon_I247, in the server textbox on your irc client
[17:22] <Echelon_I247> BluesKaj: thankx.. :)
[17:22] <frenzy> llutz: ehehe, i have too many at work already :)
[17:22] <llutz> frenzy: well, then what ikonia wrote
[17:22] <frenzy> ikonia: i think best approach is doing both, weekly DD "live" and rsync, daily
[17:23] <ikonia> frenzy: that seems like a massive waste, but it's up to you
[17:23] <srhb> dd live? What will that accomplish?
[17:23] <frenzy> ikonia: i have a 3tb drive and OS will probably use less than 2GB
[17:23] <ikonia> frenzy: it is still a massive waste of time and effort
[17:24] <ikonia> frenzy: but it is yours to waste
[17:24] <frenzy> ikonia: believe me, reinstalling from scratch worth 100 times that setup
[17:24] <jayar> anyone else having issues with smbd?
[17:24] <Syncsys__>  clueless problem . tring to share files in windows and linux. works ok in a wifi router connected to a dsl. slow thought but ok.    when i try to make a hotspot between  the computers or use wires with a seperate switch. either i cant see share folders. (i can ping each other and even see a webpage runing on linux machine)     and some times when i do see folders and try to copy files that are large. it breads down in middle and th
[17:24] <frenzy> a dd and an rsync on cron is a 10 mins setup, its just space
[17:24] <Syncsys__> e folders disappear again.
[17:24] <theadmin> jayar: That's not a question. "issues" can be anything from "it's giving some error" to "it's making my hard drive create fish and eat cats"
[17:25] <ikonia> frenzy: it's yours to waste.
[17:25] <llutz> frenzy: reinstalling is easy, just backup your stuff from /etc, $HOME, some parts of /var and a list of isntalled packages.
[17:25] <jayar> constant "has caused an error" alerts
[17:26] <jayar> i guess smbd is creashing or something, and ubuntu wants me to report bugs... and its constant. and annoying
[17:26] <Echelon_I247> can i know how to run scripts and applications which are other than .deb
[17:26] <frenzy> llutz: yes, next time, now i have nothing, i lost my last "dd" image a couple of months ago and the ssd drive today, forgot to create one in the middle :)
[17:26] <yeats> jayar: you can just check "Ignore future crashes of this type"
[17:27] <frenzy> anyway thanks ikonia/llutz for the tips :)
[17:27] <yeats> jayar: and make sure you've kept up with updates
[17:27] <mrpink57> Echelon_I247: you can build from source
[17:27] <jayar> well yea, but i'd rather know what the problem is. i guess i'm asking if anyone is aware of the issue and if they just grin and bare it too, is it a known bug, is there an alternative... blah blah blah
[17:28] <mrpink57> Echelon_I247: i am sure there are programs or ways to say convert a rpm to deb but i care not to
[17:28] <jayar> i didnt form it in a question, thought you guys could just spidey sense that stuff... my bad
[17:28] <Echelon_I247> Especially i don't know how to run .tar files I am newbie to linux.. :(
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> jayar  is this helpful? http://ubuntuguide.net/disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu-12-10
[17:29] <Echelon_I247> mrpink57: Especially i don't know how to run .tar files I am newbie to linux.. :(
[17:29] <jayar> sure, that tells me how to stop it from telling me that its broken. i'd like to know how to fix it.
[17:29] <srhb> jayar: You will have to provide log information in order to make any progress with that. :)
[17:29] <mrpink57> Echelon_I247: i would suggest you start googling for this info, there is a lot of it out there.  Just put ubuntu at the end of your searches
[17:29] <konam> MonkeyDust i didn't know that thanks
[17:29] <konam> apport sure gets on my nerves
[17:29] <jayar> srhb: now we're gettin somewhere
[17:30] <yeats> jayar: /var/log/apport.log
[17:30] <konam> new users will surely get a bad impression from it
[17:30] <jayar> i've reported the bug for months now, attached is my log info /var/log/apport.log
[17:30] <konam> "everything keeps crashing on ubuntu.."
[17:30] <Echelon_I247> mrpink57: k thank you though, i'll go through that..
[17:30] <jayar> and i apt-get update/upgrade weekly... so maybe it hasn't been resolved
[17:31] <srhb> jayar: Paste the contents of the log file to a pastebin so we can see it.
[17:31] <jayar> and instead of waiting for a forum reply (cuz im a spoiled american that demands answers immediately) i came here ;-p
[17:31] <jayar> k
[17:32] <yeats> jayar: if you ask your questions correctly in the forums, you should get quick answers IMHO
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> jayar  "if everything else fails, join #ubuntu" ;-)
[17:33] <konam> MonkeyDust i usually do it the other way around, even though the forums users respond fairly quickly
[17:34] <yeats> jayar: unsolicited, I know, but this is probably worth reading if you have trouble getting good support: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[17:34] <jayar> http://pastebin.com/yJ28fRPm
[17:34] <jayar> lol @ MonkeyDust
[17:35] <jayar> i dunno, i've been on IRC since '97 so i'm used to just comin on and askin questions... never really been a forum guy unless theres not an irc channel for it
[17:35] <ikonia> jayar: have you looked in the logs
[17:36] <ikonia> the dbus warning is also useful
[17:39] <Error404NotFound> I have enabled hibernate in 12.04 and now when i try to do hibernate system screen goes off but it doesn't go into poweroff state e.g. leds of keyboard and power are still on. Furthermore when i restart forcefully it doesn't restore old state as if the last hibernate failed. Here is my pm-suspend log: http://pastie.org/5569171
[17:43] <max999> hi all
[17:43] <max999> what does :(){ :|: & };: do in terminal?
[17:43] <theadmin> !danger
[17:43] <theadmin> max999: That's a forkbomb. Doesn't do anything horrible, just hangs your system after a while forcing you into a hard reset
[17:44] <_cb> Not sure this is the right place. If not please point me in the right direction. I understand that one can have multiple domains on a server and I know each domain has it's own folder. I don't understand how the name resolution works to point Domain A to folder A and Domain B to folder B
[17:45] <jayar> vhosts
[17:45] <llutz> _cb: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[17:45] <_cb> It was the right place to ask after all. Thanks !
[17:46] <theadmin> _cb: Well, the better place would've been #httpd
[17:46] <bjrohan> I had been trying to set up an rsync job (using ssh) in cron to run automatically. I can run the job via command line just fine, however in cron it says permission denied in the error output, can anyone help me?
[17:47] <_cb> the admin I will head in that direction. Thanks
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> bjrohan  try sudo crontab -e , the cron job then executes as if it were with sudo
[17:47] <icantdrive55> hows it goin everybody
[17:47] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: will try, thanks
[17:48] <Knuckle> hello all, I'm running ubuntu gnome remix 12.10.1, and since updating my kernel a few days ago I haven't been able to get the proprietary nvidia drivers working
[17:48] <icantdrive55> anyone in here know the best linux irc chat room in general. tryin to ask someone who knows about slitaz however slitaz support irc SUCKS
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> bjrohan  mind: the cron job then belongs to 'root'
[17:48] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: From what I can tell though that won't work. The issue seems to be that it can not log into the remote computer
[17:48] <llutz> bjrohan: what error?
[17:49] <jayar> icantdrive55: i like xchat
[17:49] <Knuckle> I can install them, run sudo nvidia-xconfig, but after rebooting gnome 3 refuses to start, reverting me to a gnome 2 desktop with horrible resolution until I switch back to the open source drivers and reboot
[17:49] <jayar> oh wait n/m lol
[17:49] <auronandace> icantdrive55: ##linux
[17:49] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: It isn't that the job won't run, it is running because it prints out the error log that I specify, so the job runs, the problem is, it can't log into the other computer using ssh from what I can tell. I have ssh set to log into that destintation computer via rsa key
[17:49] <DJones> !alis | icantdrive55
[17:49] <bjrohan> Here is the line I am trying to run MonkeyDust:rsync -vaz --exclude 'Dropbox' --delete-before --force -e ssh  /home/bjrohan/ brohan@192.168.0.2:/media/BACKUP/HP_Laptop > $HOME/rsync.$(date +\%F).log 2> $HOME/rsync.$(date +\%F).err
[17:49] <xangua> Knuckle: tried the previous kernel¿
[17:49] <Knuckle> xangua: how do I do that?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> bjrohan  ok, I had that too, i resolved it by creating a ssh key, to bypass the remote password
[17:49] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: If I run that line from commande line, all goes well
[17:50] <xangua> Knuckle: hold Shift when you turn on the pc, the grub menu should show and you can select the previous kernel wich worked with your nvidia
[17:50] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: I have an rsa key installed that works. in command line if I type ssh brohan@192.168.0.2 it logs me in just fine, no asking for a password b/c the rsa is working
[17:50] <bjrohan> MonkeyDust: apparently it isn't working okay in the cron
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> bjrohan  that's odd
[17:50] <Knuckle> xangua: ubuntu gnome remix has a slightly different bootscreen
[17:50] <Knuckle> it only shows one option to boot into ubuntu
[17:51] <Knuckle> er, not bootscreen, grub config
[17:51] <icantdrive55> sorry to all above that replied... ran out of room and thanks
[17:51] <xangua> Knuckle: as i said, hold Shift when you turn on the pc
[17:51] <Knuckle> hm, alright, I'll give that a try
[17:51] <Knuckle> bbl
[17:51] <Echelon_I247> ciao guys thanx for ur help guys.
[17:52] <chadoh> alright. scrolling in irssi is broken for me when using tmux within my ubuntu ec2 vm or my local mac. but scrolling in irssi works fine in screen. But I don't want to use screen, I want to use tmux harrumph.
[17:53] <theadmin> chadoh: scrolling how? Mouse wheel may not work, but pageup/pagedown should.
[17:54] <chadoh> theadmin: the mac keyboard maps fn + up/down arrows to Page Up/Down. I'm using that.
[17:54] <chadoh> Never the mouse. NEVER THE MOUSE! @theadmin
[17:55] <mashbro> hi
[17:55] <theadmin> chadoh: Hm, I see. Odd... It shoulda work, not sure
[17:56] <mashbro> how can I set up a LAMP server with PHP and mySQL? I'm on Ubuntu 11.04
[17:56] <llutz> !lamp | mashbro
[17:56] <kermit_> just google lamp
[17:57] <theadmin> mashbro: The answer is you can't. 11.04 is not supported.
[17:57] <chadoh> theadmin: yeah, I'm not sure what's up. When I PageUp, only the top half of irssi scrolls up. When I PageDown, only the bottom half scrolls. And new messages do not show up unless I PageUp then PageDown. Again, only in tmux. Screen (which I'm using now but not used to) is working fine. No multiplexer works fine.
[17:57] <mashbro> I'm getting, Unable to install taskel
[17:58] <mashbro> theadmin: any idea why?
[17:58] <ThinkT510> mashbro: 11.04 is no longer supported
[17:58] <llutz> !eol | mashbro
[17:58] <theadmin> mashbro: Because 11.04 is EOL. Repos were killed off.
[17:58] <mashbro> Ok.
[17:59] <mashbro> so I will need to upgrade to the latest version right?
[17:59] <Linpassion> hi
[17:59] <mashbro> Linpassion: hey
[17:59] <yeats> mashbro: probably a fresh install at this point, but yes - I'd recommend 12.04
[18:00] <mashbro> yeats: why not 12.10?
[18:00] <yeats> mashbro: because 12.04 is an LTS release and will be good for 5 years
[18:00] <mashbro> yeats, okay
[18:00] <yeats> well, 4 1/2 at this point ;-)
[18:00] <mashbro> how can I upgrade to 12.04 via terminal?
[18:01] <Linpassion> hi yeats
[18:01] <yeats> mashbro: not sure you can - you might need to back up your files and reinstall
[18:01] <yeats> Linpassion: hi?
[18:01] <theadmin> mashbro: You can't upgrade to 12.04 directly, would have to go through 11.10
[18:02] <mashbro> oops.
[18:02] <Linpassion> yeats you know how to change the purple screen on ubuntu 12.02 ?
[18:03] <yeats> Linpassion: can you provide more details about what you're asking? and which release? (there is no 12.02)
[18:04] <Linpassion> Ubuntu 12.02 LTS Destkop. When boot start up appera a purple screen,. i want to change it ore remove it to se the dmesg oputput like Slackware
[18:08] <zipace> Linpassion: you'll have to edit /etc/default/grub (and then run 'sudo update-grub')
[18:09] <Linpassion> ok, wath row i m'ust comment/uncomment?
[18:09] <ronmalloy> Hello all!
[18:09] <zipace> Linpassion: remove "quiet splash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then run 'sudo update-grub'
[18:11] <ronmalloy> Can anyone direct me to the howto for laptop config, specifically, using  it with lid closed and HDMI out to external screen?
[18:11] <Linpassion> to edit grup? lilo was too easy!
[18:13] <zipace> Linpassion: just use any program to edit it, such as vim, emacs, gedit, kwrite, leafpad... whatever fits your bill
[18:13] <zipace> remember that you need superuser rights in order to edit it, due to being UID 0
[18:17] <Linpassion> pardon, to edit group which command
[18:29] <skp1> catbirger
[18:30] <nabn> hi I am having a hard time getting g++ to install
[18:30] <Knuckle> xangua: well I managed to figure it out
[18:31] <nabn> it says i have broken packages and/or unmet dependencies
[18:31] <nabn> what does that mean?
[18:31] <theadmin> nabn: sudo apt-get install gcc gives you that?
[18:32] <Knuckle> rebooting into older kernel didn't really go smooth, messed around with reinstalling nvidia drivers, noticed that the ones for the latest kernel weren't being made because I didn't have the header files
[18:33] <Knuckle> Installed linux-headers-generic, installed nvidia drivers, rebooted into latest kernel, everything works \o/
[18:34] <theadmin> nabn: Err, "sudo apt-get install g++", that is.
[18:36] <Areckx> I am having an issue with full screen mode in terminal/gedit/chromium/etc when using ctrl+alt+->/<- ## The issue is that I need to alt+tab on all of the windows in order to restore the window to a true full screen since the bottom panel and top panel are visible
[18:36] <csemple> hi I recently upgraded (reinstalled) my OS from Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 since then, the SD card reader on this laptop (acer eeePC 1000) doesn't work
[18:36] <csemple> it used to on 10.04
[18:37] <csemple> here is the output of dmesg -->    http://pastebin.com/uvshWWeV
[18:37] <Areckx> cs278::  maybe you need a different package in order to run in Precise?
[18:37] <Areckx> err csemple
[18:38] <csemple> hey Areckx
[18:38] <Areckx> that message was meant for you
[18:38] <csemple> right,
[18:38] <Areckx> which package worked for 10.04?
[18:38] <Areckx> and also, have you considered reinstalling 10.04?
[18:40] <csemple> Areckx, I never had to install a package to get the sd card reader working
[18:40] <csemple> as far as I know
[18:40] <Tech-1> do your thumb drives work ?
[18:40] <Areckx> csemple::  That means that it is using firmware
[18:40] <csemple> hey Tech-1
[18:41] <Areckx> you may need to use a different firmware on 12.04 for it to work
[18:41] <csemple> lemme check a thumb drive one sec
[18:41] <Areckx> besides the one that is packaged with your sd card reader
[18:41] <Tech-1> i have a eee also, and i havent put 12 on it yet, just wondering
[18:41] <Areckx> if that makes any sense
[18:41] <csemple> in the meantime here is the output of dmesg
[18:41] <csemple> http://pastebin.com/uvshWWeV
[18:42] <Areckx> Tech-1 as well as any others with that card reader may benefit from you figuring out how to run it on 10.04
[18:42] <Tech-1> csemple>  is there a switch in bios for them ?
[18:42] <nabn> this is what i get when i try to install g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.0-1~) but it is not going to be installed
[18:42] <Areckx> 12.04**
[18:42] <nabn> what do i do to fix this?
[18:42] <csemple> thumb drive does not work
[18:42] <Tech-1> ahha
[18:43] <nabn> i am running ubuntu 12.10 x64
[18:43] <sabrina> I have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. I have problems with the audio device! Can anyone help me?
[18:43] <csemple> Tech-1, I checked bios
[18:43] <csemple> I never went into bios after upgrading
[18:43] <csemple> or before
[18:43] <Tech-1> mine is a asus, and it has a usb switch in it, interesting
[18:44] <csemple> usb switch huh
[18:44] <yeats> csemple: seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/a/150891
[18:44] <braddcadd_> just restored home folder on my fresh install, how do i get evolution to look at my old config?
[18:44] <Tech-1> ya, weird
[18:44] <ofcan> hello! I have 'unmet dependency' problem, can you please take a look, here's the code & everything, any help is awesome > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14006157/postgresql-9-1-dependency-issue
[18:44] <Tech-1> csemple>  is your system using mate ?
[18:45] <sabrina> I have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. I have problems with the audio device! Can anyone help me? My laptop is an Asus A6 Va
[18:45] <csemple> Tech-1, I don't know what mate is
[18:45] <Tech-1> its a gnome 2 fork kinda thing
[18:45] <csemple> Tech-1, I installed ubuntu using a usb cdrom drive lol
[18:45] <Tech-1> same here
[18:45] <Tech-1> unetbootin
[18:45] <csemple> Tech-1, I never needed unetbootin
[18:46] <yeats> ofcan: have you tried removing the ppa?
[18:46] <Tech-1> i didnt use an externas cd
[18:46] <csemple> it was a cdrom drive that plugs into the usb
[18:46] <yeats> !ppapurge | ofcan
[18:46] <Tech-1> usb drive
[18:46] <csemple> I wonder if that works now
[18:46] <Tech-1> try it
[18:46] <yeats> !ppa-purge | ofcan
[18:46] <csemple> yeats, thanks
[18:46] <Tech-1> maybe your fstab needs to see them ?
[18:47] <csemple> I don't know how to do that Tech-1
[18:47] <ofcan> ubottu: ok, but I cannot install ppa-purge
[18:47] <Tech-1> i have a full house of company here, either ask and wait or google ubuntu fstab
[18:47] <ofcan> yeats: returns the same error :)
[18:47] <csemple> gonna try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/95391/how-do-i-mount-an-sd-card/150891#150891
[18:48] <Greg8823> Hello I am running 12.04 on a emachine desktop it is fully updated and i have gone though the sound trouble shooting help.ubuntu.com and still have no working sound. any help would be apreciated
[18:48] <Greg8823> at help.ubuntu.com*
[18:49] <yeats> ofcan: try 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[18:49] <ofcan> yeats: returns the same
[18:49] <yeats> !fstab | csemple
[18:50] <yeats> ofcan: ok - how about trying to remove the postgres packages?
[18:50] <yeats> ofcan: your data will be safe btw
[18:50] <ofcan> tried 'sudo apt-get remove postgresql' but still get the same error...
[18:52] <mallet`> Does anyone know if virtualboxes.org is reliable?
[18:54] <csemple> I just thought of something, yeats Tech-1 I may have installed the 64 bit version of ubuntu to this machine, and I can probably get away with just the 32 bit version (only 1gb ram on it)
[18:54] <yeats> ofcan: this is a pretty thorough guide to this kind of thing - I would step through it before trying anything else: http://askubuntu.com/a/142808
[18:54] <csemple> how do I check if this is a 64 bit install or a 32 bit os ?
[18:54] <Tech-1> ya, stick with the 32 bit
[18:54] <yeats> csemple: uname -a
[18:54] <Tech-1> i was gonna ask you that
[18:55] <yeats> csemple: that shouldn't matter for your issue though IMHO
[18:55] <csemple> Linux csemple-1000HE 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:45:18 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:55] <csemple> 64 bit ? ^
[18:55] <yeats> csemple: that's 32 bit
[18:55] <csemple> yeats, oh k
[18:55] <csemple> yeats, did you see my pastbin on the output of dmesg ?
[18:56] <Areckx> Here is a screenshot fo my error. http://i.imgur.com/5d8C2.png
[18:56] <csemple> http://pastebin.com/aq2uKH3Y
[18:58] <unXddse> hey
[18:58] <Greg8823> Hello I am running an emachine desktop with 12.04 64x it is fully updated and i have gone though the sound trouble shooting on help.ubuntu.com and still have no working sound. any help would be appreciated. it recognizes my sound card and both sound ports when i use the aplay -l command. i have also uninstalled and reinstalled the offical ubuntu ones.
[18:58] <Greg8823> drivers
[18:58] <alimj> Hello everyone. I would require a Download Manager similar to FreeDownLoadManager (Win32) or getright. But I like it to be GPL, daemonizable, With Web interface Control. I do not require torrent (already have transmission-daemon). Any suggestion?
[18:59] <unXddse> Has anyone an idea how to relocate the same package twice in mavneß
[18:59] <yeats> csemple: have you tried running a live CD to see if the SD card reader works then?  the google is indicating a hardware issue when those "device descriptor read/64, error -71" messages are present
[19:00] <ofcan> yeats: I followed instructions from exactly that guide! I still get the same error. I removed postgres ppa and installed ppa-purge with that 'mkdir ppa...' command.
[19:00] <csemple> yeats, interesting I've tried these sd cards and usb sticks in another machine, and they work fine I will double check, and I will check if it works on a live-cd also,
[19:01] <ikonia> ofcan: maybe stop asking in two channels with conflicting information and focus on one solution to the end
[19:01] <cliftonts> evening all. Anybody have any idea why the python command 'from serial.tools import list_ports' is producing the error 'ImportError: No module named tools'?
[19:02] <yeats> cliftonts: you should ask in #python
[19:02] <cliftonts> I can't, it kicks me out into a room that rejects my messages
[19:02] <knxville> cliftonts, register to netserv
[19:03] <ikonia> cliftonts: you need to register
[19:03] <ikonia> !register > cliftonts
[19:03] <knxville> nickserv
[19:03] <ikonia> cliftonts: ubottu has just sent you a pm detailing how to register, also the #freenode channel can help you
[19:03] <cliftonts> I'm getting a headache fast. Is there no way to find out the answer to a simple question without filling out forms in triplicate?
[19:03] <srhb> cliftonts: Registering is fairly easy.
[19:04] <csemple> yeats, ok fyi the card works perfect in my other machine
[19:04] <csemple> let me try a live cd now
[19:04] <ikonia> cliftonts: no
[19:04] <cliftonts> I've just spent an hour banging my head against the screen, picking my nose would be a challenge right now!
[19:04] <yeats> csemple: then I would suspect the SD slot has a problem
[19:04] <ikonia> cliftonts: log off and approach it later when you are feeling better
[19:04] <cliftonts> not going to happen
[19:05] <ikonia> cliftonts: then you're a bit stuck, sorry
[19:05] <knxville> cliftonts, im no python expert at all..
[19:05] <knxville> but have you tried serial.tools.list_ports
[19:05] <cliftonts> As far as I can tell everything is installed correctly
[19:06] <csemple> yeats, well before I recently (2 weeks ago) upgraded from ubuntu 10.04, it was working fine
[19:06] <csemple> we used it all the time
[19:06] <cliftonts> knxville: I'm not sure how I could use the command like that
[19:06] <knxville> cliftonts, import serial.tools.list_ports
[19:06] <csemple> usb thumb drives worked also
[19:06] <yeats> csemple: hardware can go bad at any time
[19:07] <csemple> its strange, the usb slots work for mouses and accessories, but not a thumb drive
[19:07] <yeats> csemple: but that would be ruled out if it works with a livecd
[19:07] <srhb> cliftonts: How did you install pyserial?
[19:07] <csemple> right, so I will try that yeats and get back to you
[19:07] <cliftonts> It was already installed
[19:08] <csemple> I have to go for a drive unfortunately but I will try it asap
[19:15] <Greg8823> Hello I am running an emachine desktop with 12.04 64x it is fully updated and i have gone though the sound trouble shooting on help.ubuntu.com and still have no working sound. any help would be appreciated. it recognizes my sound card and both sound ports when i use the aplay -l command. i have also uninstalled and reinstalled the offical ubuntu drivers.
[19:16] <jaime> refox!!
[19:16] <jaime> need help with flash and firefox!!
[19:16] <jaime> anybody!!?
[19:17] <InspectorCluseau> jaime, try #firefox
[19:18] <jaime> i tried everything and cant get flash to work in firefox
[19:18] <Greg8823> jamie> you can try the "ubuntu resticted extras" in the software center. it worked for me
[19:20] <srhb> Greg8823: Did you have sound when using aplay?
[19:20] <jaime> i will give it a go!! thank yous
[19:20] <Greg8823> no, i haven't been able to get any sound at all
[19:21] <srhb> Greg8823: On neither output?
[19:21] <srhb> Greg8823: If one of the cards listed is indeed the card you want to be using, I would guess that the wrong default card has been set.
[19:22] <Greg8823> there is only one card, its the motherboard soundcard. Neither output is working though
[19:23] <srhb> Greg8823: What does cat /proc/asound/modules yield?
[19:25] <Greg8823> 0 snd_hda_intel
[19:25] <srhb> Greg8823: Sounds like the right one. Have you checked alsamixer settings to make sure it's turned up and not muted? sorry if that seems like a trivial question. :-)
[19:26] <jaime> restricted extras hasnt worked either
[19:26] <alimj> Asking again -- I need a GPL Download Manager for FTP, HTTP, HTTPS downloads (Do not really require P2P). It should have CLI, GUI, WEB and should be daemonizable (run as service). It should support scheduling (via itself or cron). What is your recommendation? p.s. it should be well maintained under Ubuntu.
[19:28] <Greg8823> do you mean the sound setting in the system setting? then no its not muted.
[19:28] <skp1> NO ALSAMIXER
[19:28] <srhb> Greg8823: I mean use the "alsamixer" tool from the command line
[19:28] <srhb> Greg8823: Make sure to go all the way to the right, and watch for mute (MM) on things like Master, PCM, preamp etc.
[19:29] <Greg8823> its all at 100
[19:30] <srhb> Greg8823: And no muted indicators in the bottom? (should say 00, not MM)
[19:30] <alimj> It appears that no one use any Download Manager these days! Either all of you are wget lovers, or your speed are so fast that no download manager is required!!! =-O
[19:30] <srhb> alimj: Yes and yes. :P
[19:31] <nabn> alimj: i think axel is quite handy now and then
[19:31] <Greg8823> line says mm and the front mic and rear mic say the same
[19:32] <srhb> Greg8823: I've no idea then. Go ahead and reask your question, perhaps someone else has an idea.
[19:32] <alimj> nabn: Thanks for the hint. Will look to that.
[19:33] <nabn> alimj: sure. but it hasn't got all of the features that you described. Its the closest i got to idm experience on linux
[19:33] <Greg8823> srhb: how do you unmute in alsa though, just in case i need it in the future?
[19:34] <nabn> asking again- i am stuck here: g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.0-1~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:34] <nabn> why doesn't 12.10 come with g++ pre-installed?
[19:34] <srhb> Greg8823: M
[19:35] <Greg8823> srbh:alright thanks for your help
[19:35] <srhb> Greg8823: One more thing though, have you tried plugging headphones in?
[19:37] <Greg8823> srhb: Yeah, im using headphone to check that i know work
[19:37] <srhb> nabn: Difficult question to answer, since default package choices is a matter of philosophy. The answer is something like "because people didn't think it would matter for standard users."
[19:37] <braddcad1> 2
[19:38] <uosiu> Hi all
[19:38] <uosiu> I have nexus 7 and nexus 4 and I'm trying to get MTP connection working
[19:38] <uosiu> I can see remote directory structure, but ls shows zero file size and I can't do any operations except listing
[19:38] <konam> where is the xorg config file on 12.10?
[19:39] <nabn> srhb: sure. any idea how to get it to install though? i wanna install RoR but i am stuck on g++. it says: g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.0-1~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:39] <ikonia> konam: doesn't eixst
[19:39] <konam> i want to lock the resolution of a second screen
[19:39] <ikonia> uosiu: not sure how this links to ubuntu
[19:39] <ikonia> nabn: are you using a PPA/3rd party repo
[19:39] <konam> ikonia how would i go about fixing the resolution of a second screen?
[19:39] <uosiu> ikonia: I can't get working MTP file transfer on ubuntu 12.10
[19:39] <ikonia> uosiu: on your nexus ?
[19:39] <Syncsys__> Clueless problem . Trying to share files in windows and Linux. works OK in a WiFi router connected to a DSL. slow thought but OK.
[19:39] <Syncsys__> When I try to make a hot spot between the computers or use wires with a separate switch, either I cant see share folders. (I can ping each other and even see a webpage running on Linux machine) and some times when I do see folders and try to copy files that are large, it breaks down in middle and the folders disappear again (both in hot spot case and in Lan).
[19:39] <uosiu> ikonia: Nexus ←→ Ubuntu
[19:39] <nabn> ikonia: yes. most probably. i am using local server for nepal. Does that matter?
[19:40] <ikonia> konam: you'll have to make an xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[19:40] <ikonia> uosiu: try #ubuntu-arm, the arm build for nexus is experimental
[19:40] <ikonia> nabn: is it a PPA ? or a 3rd party server, or an official ubuntu mirror ?
[19:40] <uosiu> ikonia: I don't have Ubuntu on nexus. I have ubuntu on my PC
[19:40] <ikonia> uosiu: ooh, I see
[19:40] <Guest95138> hi
[19:41] <nabn> ikonia: pretty sure its an official ubuntu mirror. its listed by default on software sources
[19:41] <konam> ikonia i don't know how to create a xorg file, at most i just tweak one that is already created there, and that has always been the case :/
[19:41] <ikonia> nabn: what package are you trying to install
[19:41] <ikonia> konam: xorg -configure, or get an example off the net
[19:41] <nabn> ikonia: g++ to start with
[19:41] <ikonia> nabn: what version does it say you are trying to install
[19:42] <ikonia> !info nabn
[19:42] <ikonia> oops
[19:42] <nabn> ikonia:  g++ : Depends: g++-4.7 (>= 4.7.0-1~) but it is not going to be installed
[19:42] <ikonia> !info g++
[19:42] <konam> ikonia but if a file doesn't exist for xorg config, creating one woudln't introduce some other issues?
[19:42] <ikonia> nabn: ok, so you're using 12.10 ?
[19:42] <nabn> ikonia: yes
[19:42] <ikonia> konam: no, as it's dynamic, it only reads what you put in it
[19:42] <Greg8823> Hello I am running an emachine desktop with 12.04 64x it is fully updated, i am using the motherboard sound card and i have gone though the sound trouble shooting on help.ubuntu.com and still have no working sound. any help would be appreciated. it recognizes my sound card and both sound ports when i use the aplay -l command. i have also uninstalled and reinstalled the offical ubuntu drivers. I have checked the alsamixer setti
[19:43] <ikonia> nabn: ok, so if you look 4.4.7.2 is the current version, check if that's the version on your mirror
[19:44] <joako> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04 but I can not get online. I can not even ping localhost. ifconfig shows I am getting an IP from the dhcp server.
[19:45] <nabn> ikonia: stupid question: how do i do that?
[19:46] <CrazyZurfer> Any body knows a good sniffer for ubuntu? something like wireshark, the problem with that one is that it's only for windows and Mac S:
[19:46] <CrazyZurfer> :S
[19:46] <sqrt> h
[19:47] <ikonia> nabn: apt-cache policy
[19:47] <OerHeks> !info wireshark
[19:47] <ikonia> CrazyZurfer: tcpdump, snoop
[19:47] <srhb> CrazyZurfer: ie. it is not only for OS X/Windows
[19:47] <nabn> ikonia: apt-cache policy | grep g++ returns zero results
[19:48] <Chucrute301> Apt-get install xvideos4ubuntu
[19:48] <csemple> yeats, I am back, going to try the sd card on a live cd
[19:48] <ikonia> nabn: man apt-cache rather than just typing blind
[19:48] <Syncsys__> what do i need to make an ftp server?
[19:48] <ikonia> Syncsys__: an ftp daemon, that's it
[19:48] <ikonia> Syncsys__: vsftpd is the most common used one
[19:48] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  which on is the easiest?
[19:49] <ikonia> may as well use the most common one as it's going to have more documentation
[19:49] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  A gui would be nicer.. is there a filezilla version as filezilla client is available?
[19:50] <ikonia> Syncsys__: filezilla is a client, not a server
[19:50] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  I thought it has a server too?
[19:50] <ikonia> Syncsys__: vsftpd is pretty much two lines in a text file, if you can't do that, it's unwise to try to run an xserver
[19:50] <srhb> ikonia, Syncsys__: It does.
[19:50] <Syncsys__> srhb,  by what package name>
[19:50] <joako> What steps must be carried out to enable networking in Ubuntu?
[19:51] <ikonia> joako: it's enabled by default
[19:51] <Syncsys__> srhb, I never found it in package search
[19:51] <srhb> Syncsys__: Sorry, I did not mean to imply the server part exists for Ubuntu
[19:51] <srhb> Just that it exists. :)
[19:51] <joako> ikonia: I Have installed Ubuntu 12.04 and I get an IP address from the DHCP server, but I can not ping anything.
[19:52] <ikonia> joako: ping does not mean a thing
[19:52] <ikonia> joako: can you browse the web ? chat on IRC etc
[19:52] <srhb> Not being able to ping localhost does mean something
[19:52] <joako> ikonia: When I run apt-get it fails to connect and download the software.
[19:53] <joako> srhb: I disabled the firewall and rebooted now I can ping localhost
[19:53] <ikonia> joako: what is the error
[19:53] <ikonia> the firewall doesn't block localhost
[19:53] <srhb> Sounds very odd.
[19:54] <joako> ANd if I can ping the router from another computer, why shouldn´t that work from Ubuntu?
[19:54] <joako> My /etc/resolv.conf has the nameserver as 127.0.0.1!
[19:55] <ikonia> joako: that's not a problem
[19:56] <ikonia> joako: please show me the output of "netstat -rn" on your machine
[19:56] <ikonia> (use a pastebin0
[19:56] <ikonia> pastebin
[19:56] <Areckx> I am having an issue with full screen mode in terminal/gedit/chromium/etc when using ctrl+alt+->/<- ## The issue is that I need to alt+tab on all of the windows in order to restore the window to a true full screen since the bottom panel and top panel are visible
[19:56] <Areckx> Here is a screenshot fo my error. http://i.imgur.com/5d8C2.png
[19:56] <Areckx> for*
[19:56] <Guest33231> hai what is IRC and how it is used
[19:56] <Areckx>  /j #freenode
[19:57] <Areckx> Guest33231::  try #freenode
[19:57] <lime__> I am trying to remotely access a computer with VNC, on a very slow internet connection.   Is there a grayscale or black and white version that might increase the speed.  Maybe something that has a higher compression rate?
[19:57] <stephans_> how do i get to a tty in ubuntu 12.10
[19:57] <IdleOne> ctrl-alt-F1
[19:57] <srhb> stephans_: ctrl+alt+F1
[19:58] <ikonia> lime__: not really, just what your client/server supports
[19:58] <Guest20463> yeats, ok I am on the live cd, and the sd reader still does not work
[19:58] <lime__> CNTRL + ALT + f1
[19:58] <Guest20463> xubuntu 12.04 32 bit
[19:58] <plut0> Any ideas why i'm getting this grub error? error: invalid arch independent ELF magic. grub rescue.
[19:58] <dcherniv> Guest20463, what is the model, pastebin lsusb output
[19:59] <joako> ikonia: When I issue the command ¨route¨ it shows the correct default gateway
[19:59] <ikonia> joako: not what I asked you to do
[19:59] <Guest20463> dcherniv, its a acer eeepc 1000
[19:59] <Guest20463> the sd reader was working with ubuntu 10.04
[20:00] <joako> ikonia: The system´s not in front of me so that´s the best I have for a few minutes
[20:00] <ikonia> joako: that makes no sense
[20:00] <ikonia> joako: if you can type "route" - you can type netstat
[20:00] <dcherniv> Guest20463, yes pastebin the output of lsusb command
[20:00] <joako> ikonia: I type netstat -rn and I see the routes. I already have a picture showing the output of the ¨route¨ command
[20:01] <yeats> Guest20463: that indicates that the problem is with the sd reader, not the OS
[20:01] <lime__> ikonia: I have access to the client and there are both running ubuntu, so I was looking for another type of compression that might be faster.  Or maybe other techniques when working on a dial up connection.
[20:01] <stephans_> srhb the F key do not work.
[20:02] <ikonia> lime__: sounds silly, but not using X11 would be a start
[20:02] <stephans_> I installed on a mac mini
[20:02] <lime__> It isn't as slow as dial up but assumed someone has run into similar issues before.
[20:03] <ikonia> lime__: the point still stands,
[20:06] <ICU> hello , need some help with wine pls
[20:06] <dcherniv> ICU, ask
[20:07] <joako> ikonia: This is the netstat -rn: http://i.imgur.com/4XQvd.jpg (same/idential as ¨route¨)
[20:07] <ICU> i am trying to install wine
[20:07] <msdaisy> I'm using grep -r to search the filesystem for a file that contains a certain string. I excluded /dev and /tmp but it's still taking foreeeeeeeeeever.  Have any hints to speed up the search?
[20:07] <ICU> but it keeps giveing me an eror
[20:08] <ICU> that the packeges are not going to be installed
[20:08] <dcherniv> msdaisy, find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep "string"
[20:08] <ICU> i am new with ubuntu and linux
[20:08] <[NGW]> I have Windows 8 installed on my primary hard drive and want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my secondary hard drive. How can I do this? It only gives me an option to format and install to the primary drive. I am not sure how to set it up manually, and would prefer not to.
[20:08] <dcherniv> ICU, whats the erorr?
[20:09] <ikonia> joako: so you are unable to ping 192.168.0.1
[20:09] <joako> ikonia: correct.
[20:09] <Guest20463> yeats, right, but if I use a ubuntu 10.04 live cd, the sd reader works fine
[20:09] <ICU> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[20:09] <ikonia> joako: what ip address does your eth0 card have
[20:09] <yeats> Guest20463: so you're on an ubuntu live CD right now and it's working?
[20:09] <ICU> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:09] <ICU> wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~) but 1.16.7ubuntu6 is to be installed
[20:09] <ICU>          Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[20:09] <ICU>          Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but 1.4.1-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[20:09] <ICU>          Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[20:09] <Guest20463> yeats, I am on a 12.04 live cd
[20:09] <FloodBot1> ICU: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <dcherniv> ICU, can you pastebin the output of sudo apt-get install wine
[20:09] <Guest20463> and it does not work
[20:10] <ICU> ok
[20:10] <Guest20463> dcherniv, working on the pastebin one sec
[20:10] <SquareOne> happy holidays everyone!
[20:10] <joako> ikonia: 192.168.0.129
[20:10] <dcherniv> ICU, sounds like you're using third party repository
[20:10] <[NGW]> I have Windows 8 installed on my primary hard drive and want to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my secondary hard drive. How can I do this? It only gives me an option to format and install to the primary drive. I am not sure how to set it up manually, and would prefer not to.
[20:11] <ikonia> joako: how are you verifying that ?
[20:11] <ikonia> [NGW]: you have just said that less than 60 seconds ago
[20:11] <Guest20463> dcherniv, http://pastebin.com/4ZwKP1MC
[20:11] <joako> ikonia: ¨Ifconfig¨ command
[20:11] <yeats> [NGW]: so the installer doesn't see the second drive?
[20:11] <Guest20463> output of lsusb
[20:11] <dcherniv> ICU, also run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade before installing wine
[20:13] <ikonia> joako: ok, first things first, is the firewall on your machine disabled ?
[20:13] <joako> ikonia: I disabled it but I am not sure if after rebooting it will stay disabled
[20:13] <ikonia> joako: stop it again to make sure
[20:13] <Guest20463> yeats, I am going to switch over to the 10.04 live cd to prove that the sd reader is working and its not a hardware problem.
[20:13] <Guest20463> brb
[20:14] <dcherniv> Guest20463, hm, pastebin lsusb -v, also pastebin lspci
[20:14] <pecorade> Hi.
[20:14] <Anom01y> dcherniv, hi
[20:14] <Anom01y> its me Guestt20463
[20:14] <Anom01y> Ive just rebooted the laptop dcherniv
[20:15] <yeats> Anom01y: try and stick with a single nick - it's less confusing :-/
[20:15] <Anom01y> yeats, yeah sorry, this is my main machine I will make a similar nick when I re-boot the laptop
[20:15] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  i have setup vsftpd and is runing. but when i enter ftp://ipOfLinuxMachine it doesnot take me there
[20:16] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  iam in windows 7
[20:16] <joako> ikonia, Is the correct command: ufw disable?
[20:16] <ikonia> Syncsys__: where does it take you
[20:16] <ikonia> joako: lets do it a bit more agressive "sudo iptables -F"
[20:17] <dcherniv> Anom01y, pastebin lsusb -v and lspci, cant tell the model from lsusb
[20:17] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  no where
[20:17] <Anom01y> dcherniv, ok I will I am booting the computer off an older live cd to prove that the sd reader is working and that the problem is in ubuntu 12.04
[20:17] <Anom01y> because when we had ubuntu 10.04 installed on the computer, the sd reader worked fine
[20:18] <psichas> what is default w3m's folder for downloads?
[20:21] <joako> ikonia: ¨destination unreachable¨ when I try to ping defaut gw
[20:21] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  i just typed ftp://192.168.15.101   on the linux machine where vsftp is installed. and i am able to see the folders after giving credentials. but when I try the same addres from a windows 7 machine (which can ping 192.168.15.101 and gets reply) it does not take me anywhere
[20:21] <ikonia> Syncsys__: it must take you somewhere
[20:22] <ikonia> Syncsys__: have you started vsftpd
[20:22] <Syncsys__> it doesnt
[20:22] <ikonia> joako: this sounds stupid, but is your network card up
[20:22] <ikonia> Syncsys__: it doesn't what ?
[20:22] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  its restarted. yes
[20:22] <ikonia> Syncsys__: no, is it "started" is the vsftpd daemon running
[20:22] <ikonia> joako: basic stuff, eg: is there a green light on the network card, does ifconfig show the interface as up
[20:23] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  thats how i get folders on the same machine when i type ftp://192.168.15.101
[20:23] <ikonia> Syncsys__: please stop telling me that and answer the question
[20:23] <ikonia> Syncsys__: is the vsftpd daemon running
[20:23] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  service vsftpd status shows me runing
[20:23] <ikonia> Syncsys__: right
[20:23] <ikonia> Syncsys__: so the firewall is probably blocking it
[20:23] <ikonia> Syncsys__: disable ufw
[20:23] <Sheikhmak> hey guys I usually run x11vnc at a custom port, but notice of late that, it also runs on 5900, how do I stop it from doing that
[20:23] <joako> ikonia: Ifconfig shows ¨UP¨ and yes everything should be working I had openSUSE installed and the network was working fine. The moment I installed Ubuntu the network failed.
[20:23] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  firewall in linux box?
[20:24] <ikonia> Syncsys__: correct
[20:24] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  is firewall enabled even if i never installed one?
[20:24] <ikonia> Syncsys__: yes
[20:24] <ikonia> joako: ok, this is interesting
[20:24] <sabrina> I have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. I have problems with the audio device! Can anyone help me? My laptop is an Asus A6 Va
[20:24] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  i have an apache server runing too and serving people. it never cause a firewalll isue. strange. but let me see
[20:25] <ikonia> Syncsys__: port 80 is a trusted port
[20:25] <ikonia> joako: what model network card is this ?
[20:27] <SolarisBoy> is it udev responsible for mounting USB devices on insertion ? it seems to get mounted with the volume label as the mount point - i wanted to test a rule and i believe thats conflicting - is there any way to know what rule that is?
[20:28] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  added 20,21 in firestarter inbound
[20:28] <ikonia> Syncsys__: firestarter ?
[20:28] <ikonia> Syncsys__: firestarter isn't the default ubuntu firewall
[20:29] <vano> open firefox
[20:29] <TheLordOfTime> ikonia, i betcha he is using firestarter instead of ufw/gufw
[20:29] <vano> internet
[20:29] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  its not default but I have it
[20:30] <ikonia> TheLordOfTime: he said he hadn't installer a firewall.....so I doubt that
[20:30] <vano> open internet
[20:30] <ikonia> Syncsys__: so when I asked you and you said "even if I've not installed one"....you just lied
[20:30] <ikonia> you have installed on
[20:30] <ikonia> one
[20:30] <ikonia> 20:24 < Syncsys__> ikonia,  is firewall enabled even if i never installed one?
[20:30] <Syncsys__> ikonia, I just installed it
[20:30] <ikonia> Syncsys__: why ?
[20:30] <Syncsys__> to change/ allow ports
[20:31] <ikonia> Syncsys__: why would you install ANOTHER firewall when I've just told you the default one is probably blocking it
[20:31] <Syncsys__> as i dont know ip tables commands
[20:31] <ikonia> then ASK
[20:31] <ikonia> if you don't konw ASK
[20:31] <TheLordOfTime> Syncsys__, ASK dude, when you don't know something ASK.
[20:31] <Anom01y_2> yeats, ok
[20:31] <ikonia> !ufw | Syncsys__
[20:31] <Anom01y_2> I've narrowed this down pretty good
[20:31] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  iam on old kubuntu system where I never saw a defualt firewall. and i only know of firestarter
[20:31] <Syncsys__> so i installed it
[20:31] <Anom01y_2> I have the same issue with ubuntu 10.04 as 12.04 I am sorry for assuming that it wouldn't
[20:31] <Syncsys__> and i only like firestarter. my personal choice
[20:31] <Syncsys__> does the work.
[20:31] <Syncsys__> same as any other.
[20:31] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  ok?
[20:32] <Jerub> hi, my brother is thinking about getting a samsung galaxy s3, and he's wanting to make sure that he can sync music from ubuntu with it. I think he uses ubuntu one's music thingie to buy music.
[20:32] <ikonia> Syncsys__: you're on your own
[20:32] <ikonia> Syncsys__: if you know better.....you should be able to debug/fix this
[20:32] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  no. the are nice people here, iam not alone
[20:32] <Jerub> does anyone know if it will sync okay?
[20:33] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  thank you
[20:33] <ikonia> Syncsys__: no problem then, good luck
[20:34] <tomthegreat> Hello
[20:35] <Anom01y> yeats, ok I solved the problem sort of (it looks like you are right the sd reader just isnt working anymore for anything)
[20:35] <Anom01y> ubuntu 10.04, ubuntu 12.04, neither of them work with the sd reader
[20:35] <yeats> Anom01y: I figured it had to be the hardware
[20:35] <Anom01y> so I am using an adapter (sd to usb) and that works fine, the usb ports seem ok
[20:36] <Anom01y> time for a new computer soon I think
[20:36] <Anom01y> hopefully ubuntu works fine with a newer computer
[20:36] <Mari> !list
[20:38] <Jerub> is it posisble to sync music from ubuntu onto an android phone?
[20:39] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  its working with filezilla client on windows. i think the windows explorer is not good with ftp
[20:39] <FlowRiser> Jerub, yes, you can write your own java syncer ;)
[20:39] <ikonia> Syncsys__: no you don't think that, you've just been told that in ##networking 3 times before you'd listen
[20:39] <ikonia> Syncsys__: please don't lie
[20:40] <Jerub> FlowRiser: um, can you be more specific?
[20:40] <Syncsys__> yes. when did i said i dreamed about filezilla.
[20:40] <Jerub> is the answer no?
[20:40] <Syncsys__> ikonia, ^
[20:41] <FlowRiser> Jerub, android apps are written in java, it's not hard to serial write in java or to check for files, so you can write your own application to sync whatever files you like
[20:41] <ikonia> Syncsys__: no-one said anything about dreaming
[20:41] <Jerub> FlowRiser: i mean, can i plug in my android phone and sync music from an ubuntu install to my phone.
[20:42] <Taint> why when I go to download ubuntu it recommends 32 bit? I have a 64 bit system
[20:42] <Syncsys__> ikonia,  i put it that way that I knew how to ask and fulcan in ##networking new how to guide..
[20:42] <FlowRiser> Jerub, yes, that was my point. Also, if you are lazy to code your own stuff, you can use ubuntu One
[20:42] <Jerub> FlowRiser: i believe he is using ubuntu one
[20:42] <Jerub> does that work on android?
[20:43] <FlowRiser> it should've
[20:43] <juggle> hi
[20:43] <FlowRiser> never quite tested it
[20:43] <FlowRiser> juggle, hi
[20:43] <juggle> how to start oracle as a service
[20:43] <kostkon> Jerub, yes https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.subsonic.u1m&feature=nav_other
[20:44] <juggle> i installed oracle 11g r2 on my user on ubuntu
[20:45] <Anom01y> yeats, strange how a card reader could just fry like that
[20:46] <Freeaqingme> Where would you put directories that can be used as root by LXC containers? In /srv, /var ?
[20:47] <Flannel> Taint: Canonical thinks its safer to recommend 32bit for everyone.  You can get the 64bit version, and it'll work fine.
[20:48] <Taint> Thats what I've been using and had no troubles, but I'm just getting started with it
[20:48] <Taint> @flannel thx
[20:49] <Jerub> okay, now what about just copying files to the phone from ubuntu using MPT, is that possible? last i heard it was quite hard to do.
[20:49] <Taint> I have a good gfx card but ubuntu doesn't see it, just sees it as generic VGA or whatever. How do I install correct nvidia drivers for it?
[20:50] <ICU> hello , i am new with ubuntu . I am having a problem with installing wine, can anyone help me pls
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> ICU, sudo apt-get install wine
[20:50] <TheLordOfTime> then you're done.
[20:51] <ICU> it give;s me an eror
[20:51] <yeats> ICU: can you pastebin the error?
[20:51] <lws> What the heck..
[20:51] <lws> "The disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present."
[20:51] <lws> ?????
[20:51] <ICU> yes
[20:53] <yeats> lws: seen this?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34997/disk-drive-not-ready-yet-or-not-available
[20:53] <yeats> !pm | ICU
[20:53] <yeats> !paste | ICU
[20:53] <ICU> sudo apt-get install wine
[20:53] <ICU> [sudo] password for unu:
[20:53] <ICU> Reading package lists... Done
[20:53] <ICU> Building dependency tree
[20:53] <ICU> Reading state information... Done
[20:53] <ICU> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[20:53] <FloodBot1> ICU: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:54] <lws> yeats: no i haven't.
[20:55] <Taint> nvidia drivers in ubuntu help?
[20:55] <ICU> did you get the problem?
[20:55] <yeats> ICU: are you not able to use a pastebin?
[20:56] <yeats> !nvidia | Taint
[20:57] <Taint> ty yeats
[20:57] <guest123> hi there
[20:58] <Taint> jeez this looks complicated for just installing a driver...
[20:58] <ICU> http://pastebin.com/wizB5zsR  like this?
[20:58] <yeats> Taint: can you provide details about your problem?
[20:58] <yeats> ICU: yep
[20:59] <Taint> oh no prob yet yeats, just looking into installing correct up to date nvidia drivers
[20:59] <yeats> ICU: can you try 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get -f install'?
[20:59] <ICU> yes
[20:59] <yeats> Taint: you've tried 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current'?
[21:00] <Taint> not yet but I will. I'm about to fire up ubuntu in a few after reading all this
[21:00] <ICU> yeats did yhat
[21:01] <yeats> ICU: okay, so did it work?
[21:01] <vexati0n> hey i need some help with a gamepad in Ubuntu 12.10
[21:01] <ICU> yeats, 0 updates , 0 .......
[21:02] <guest123> hi there
[21:02] <vexati0n> i've got 2 different gamepads, and they work except when configuring any emulators, they all think i'm holding down the J19 button, which doesn't actually exist on these controllers.
[21:02] <yeats> ICU: that's not really telling me anything... can you do another paste of the output (at pastebin.com)?
[21:03] <ICU> yeats, http://pastebin.com/G4CygSw7
[21:04] <Taint> looks like this is gonna work yeats. will updates for this be included when I do my usual updates?
[21:04] <yeats> Taint: if you install via apt-get, yes
[21:05] <vexati0n> ugh. you know the failure of Open Source is that if you have a problem, there's no one you can call. At least with paid proprietary software, there are people whose job it is to give a F*.
[21:05] <yeats> ICU: can you pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy wine'?
[21:05] <joako_> How can I show all the packages in a repository?
[21:05] <yeats> vexati0n: you can find paid support for open source software - many companies would love to take your money for that
[21:05] <Taint> yeats it didn't say its finished but now just says my user @ubuntu
[21:06] <Taint> think it installed correctly?
[21:06] <yeats> Taint: if it didn't give you an error and just returned to the prompt, that means "success"
[21:06] <ICU> yeats, http://pastebin.com/cm0rkGBJ
[21:06] <guntbert> vexati0n: apart from being off topic here your statement is plainly wrong
[21:07] <Taint> great. thx yeats. said something about not finding kernal source but other than that I think it worked..
[21:08] <yeats> Taint: can you pastebin the messages you're talking about?
[21:08] <Taint> yes doing it right now
[21:08] <psilo23> Hi everyone, i am currently behind a proxy at uni campus, i am trying to get my laptop to tunnel the connection of my xbox 360 through a ssh tunnel, anyone have an idea how to do that ?
[21:09] <psilo23> i connected my xbox to my laptop using a rj45 cable now i think the best way is just to use wifi and setup a ssh tunnel to tunnel the connections, but im not sure how to do that hehehe
[21:09] <yeats> ICU: what happens when you do 'sudo apt-get install wine1.5'?
[21:09] <Taint> yeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1460418/
[21:09] <ICU> yeats, the same problem
[21:10] <ICU> yeats, http://pastebin.com/R49XGpN2
[21:11] <yeats> ICU: I would try 'sudo apt-get clean' then 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get install wine1.5'
[21:11] <ICU> ok
[21:11] <yeats> ICU: either that or disable the Wine PPA and just install the Ubuntu repo version
[21:11] <yeats> t
[21:12] <yeats> Taint: I would actually assume that it didn't work since the messages say it skipped installing the module in the current kernel
[21:12] <Taint> damn
[21:12] <Taint> any suggestions?
[21:13] <Taint> is it because I'm using it in vmware?
[21:14] <yeats> Taint: well that would certainly affect the way drivers work - I don't use vmware, though so I can't advise
[21:14] <yeats> Taint: you could try asking in #vmware
[21:14] <Taint> ok thx
[21:18] <ztgu> hi
[21:18] <next2u2008> hello
[21:18] <ztgu> Is there anyone out there who can help me with my linux partitioning?
[21:19] <srhb> ztgu: What do you want to know?
[21:19] <litropy> Hi, all - I'm ssh'ed into my Ubuntu box using a machine that's on the same network. I just want to enable remote desktop, please.
[21:20] <Septima> litropy: why not just use something like realvnc
[21:20] <srhb> litropy: ssh in with -X and launch vino-preferences
[21:20] <khanfused> I'm playing around w/the 12.10 live USB pending an erase-and-reinstall of my main system ... (confirming that drivers, etc. work and unity won't send me over the edge :-D  ). short of erasing the USB and reloading the contents is there a way to quickly clear all of my changes, configuration shifts, etc. from the persistence storage? I think I did something strange w/nvidia drivers and want to roll back
[21:21] <Septima> live usbs write persistently?
[21:22] <khanfused> they can if you set them that way during creation
[21:22] <litropy> srhb: not sure what you're suggesting. I don't know what -X, and I don't have a monitor attached to the Ubuntu box.
[21:22] <Septima> khanfused: my best suggestion would be to erase it and reload the contents
[21:23] <khanfused> the USB creator has an option to store settings and docs into another partition in the stick
[21:23] <Septima> oh
[21:23] <Septima> well can't you just delete the contents of that partition then?
[21:23] <litropy> srhb: Oh! It enables X11 forwarding! Interesting...
[21:23] <khanfused> I was curious about that ...
[21:24] <Septima> khanfused: be worth a try
[21:24] <psyg> #connect irc.freenode.net
[21:24] <crenberry> hello any german here? i need help about wlan card ;)
[21:25] <guntbert> psyg: need help for using this network? /join #freenode
[21:25] <guntbert> !de | crenberry
[21:25] <khanfused> septima... I'd hoped that there was a simple setting .... either in the shell or during reboot... that would let me flush the contents.
[21:25] <SolarisBoy> anyone know which udev rule is responsible for mounting usb-storage devs by label?
[21:25] <crenberry> thx
[21:25] <ituvox> Hello, I'm having trouble getting the scanner in my epson multifunction tx133 printer to work. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, and the printer works fine. I've tried installing iscan and other packages which usually work but it just hangs when trying to run it, until I unplug it. Could anyone help me with this?
[21:26] <SocialEvil> hi guys i have ubuntu 12.10 but for some reason when i start a program it is minimized. like when i have skype in to the tray, when i click 2 times, it doesnt open it, but minimize it at the bottom.. any idea how to "fix" it?
[21:27] <litropy> I'm $ssh -X #'ed into my remote machine, and I tried $vino-preferences #, but nothing happened. It just looks like it's open on the other end.
[21:28] <litropy> srhb^
[21:28] <guntbert> litropy: just for a check, run  xeyes remotely, do you see them on your monitor?
[21:30] <litropy> guntbert, ran xeyes on the Ubuntu box (from ssh session on this comp); no dice.
[21:30] <guntbert> litropy: did you get an error?
[21:30] <ztgu> Is there anyone out there who can help me with my linux partitioning?
[21:31] <guntbert> !ask | ztgu
[21:31] <kinxer> I'm getting a mouse problem from a fresh Ubuntu install.
[21:31] <ztgu> I have an C and D drive on my windows system.
[21:31] <ztgu>  my D drive is completly empty
[21:31] <ztgu> > I don't know which one of the sda's I am going to install it on (since I am going to install linux on D)
[21:31] <ztgu> > do you know?
[21:31] <FloodBot1> ztgu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <hlfshell> Hello all - when I type echo $JAVA_HOME I see the java home path set to /jdk1.7.0 YET when i do java --version I get ./jdk1.7.0/bin/java no such directory
[21:32] <Taint> hey yeats, after I restarted after that update nvidia all my icons are gone, just a background!
[21:32] <xjohnthomasx> Heya
[21:33] <khanfused> hlfshell ... will java --version output something for your local user or for the system/java install?
[21:33] <tnk1> Question - I'm trying to get network manager to restart.. Every time I do the command, it just hangs, though.. And so do any command with sudo in front...
[21:33] <hlfshell> khanfused, this is via my local user.
[21:33] <hrolf> Hi ubuntu, my taskbar has hanged and now I cannot minimize or close applications
[21:33] <hrolf> no buttons in it are working
[21:34] <hlfshell> khanfused, ive ran it as other users and as sudo to the same result
[21:34] <hrolf> how do I restart the taskbar?
[21:34] <kinxer> Hello, Ubuntu. I'm getting a mouse problem from a fresh install. It's not the mouse, because it works perfectly in a Live Boot. Does anyone have an idea what the problem might be?
[21:34] <ztgu> I have an C and D drive on my windows system
 my D drive is completly empty
 I don't know which one of the sda's I am going to install it on (since I am going to install linux on D)
 do you know?
[21:34] <FloodBot1> ztgu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <tnetennba> hi all, I used the 'dd' command to put a .img file in a usb drive. Now I want to format the pen and use it normally, how do I do that? Ubuntu can't mount it automatically.
[21:36] <hrolf> Hi #ubuntu, my taskbar (or gnome-bar) has freezed, how do I kill it and restart it? I cannot close or minimize any application. Please help.
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> hrolf  try killall gnome-panel
[21:38] <hrolf> MonkeyDust: Oops, sorry I think thiere is no gnome-panel, it is Unity.
[21:38] <hrolf> I have 12.04
[21:39] <hrolf> Actually I think it is the Launcher freezing
[21:41] <user82> hi. where do i start when my bluetooth does not work. lshw and lspi do not find any suitable device...but the "bluetooth" module in the kernel is loaded
[21:41] <RollinV2> hrolf are you keeping the system updated? unity has been updated to fix many stablity bugs since 12.04 released.
[21:41] <kinxer> Hello, Ubuntu. I'm finding myself unable to use my mouse after a fresh install from a Live USB. I'm able to use my mouse with the Live installation. Any ideas what's wrong?
[21:42] <user82> kinxer how is it connected?
[21:42] <user82> usb i suppose..you can check with "lsusb" if it is listed.
[21:43] <kinxer> DB9 connector, 82.
[21:44] <kinxer> As I mentioned, it works perfectly on the Live USB. It also works on my Windows partition.
[21:44] <syncer> hello
[21:44] <syncer> trying to install 12.04 to iscsi root
[21:45] <syncer> all seems to be fine
[21:45] <syncer> but on boot, system tries get ups from dhcp
[21:45] <guntbert> !enter | syncer
[21:45] <ztgu> Is there anyone here who can help me with my linux partitioning? I have a C:\ drive with 186 gb where my windows is stored. And I also have an D:\ drijve with 258 gb. But I don't know how this works in the ubuntu install. anyone with skills out there?
[21:45] <user82> hmh yeah..i understand kinxer. sorry cannot help with this connector
[21:45] <litropy> guntbert, I didn't realize until just now that I should do this within my X11 environment. I was able to launch vino-preferences remotely and enable remote desktop access, however I'm still getting an error (connection refused) when I try to remote in.
[21:45] <syncer> how to specific ip
[21:45] <syncer> ?
[21:45] <kinxer> Thanks anyway, 82. I appreciate the courtesy.
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> !partition > ztgu start here
[21:46] <syncer> set specific ups for specific interfaces statically
[21:46] <user82> good luck with that kinxer
[21:46] <syncer> ips*
[21:46] <kinxer> Thanks.
[21:47] <guntbert> litropy: lets get it straight please - you are currentlxy sitting in front fo computer (C)lient (X environment) and try to ssh -X into yur (S)erver
[21:47] <ztgu> MonkeyDust: no one in that channel
[21:47] <guntbert> !tab | kinxer
[21:48] <litropy> guntbert, correct. And I did. And I was able to launch vino-preferences.
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  it's a webpage you can open, not a channel
[21:48] <guntbert> litropy: ok, so what is the problem now?
[21:48] <kinxer> Sorry. Yes?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  read this page to get an idea https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[21:49] <ztgu> ok
[21:49] <guntbert> kinxer: I wanted to tell you to use complete nick names when talking to a specific person
[21:50] <litropy> check: allow other to view; check: allow other users to control; tried toggling the other options there to see if they affect anything, and they don't. But as of now, confirming each connection is unchecked, require a password is checked, conigure upnp is checked.
[21:50] <litropy> So, everything looks like it wants to work. Yet, when I try to VNC in, I get connection refused.
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  keep it in the channel please
[21:51] <guntbert> litropy: do you relaay need vino? is ssh -X not good enough?
[21:51] <guntbert> *really
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> !pm | ztgu
[21:51] <iRONCOMICS_> hey everybody
[21:51] <litropy> guntbert, I do.
[21:52] <iRONCOMICS_> I really need helpp
[21:52] <iRONCOMICS_> can anyone help me with my ubuntu
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  please stop flooding my pm
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  i'm sorry, i will block you now
[21:54] <Noskcaj> !ask | iRONCOMICS_
[21:54] <sfan5> hello
[21:54] <guntbert> litropy: I suggest (just for a test, now) that you allow anyone to view the desktop (and noone to control it) without a password
[21:54] <syncer> so how set ip on as kernel option to bring up iscsi ?
[21:54] <trijntje> hi all, how can I copy my private ssh key from my pc to my laptop so I can authenticate to lp from both?
[21:55] <iRONCOMICS_> Oh sorry, How do i add the resolution 1024x768 to my netbook which nly supports up to 1024x600?
[21:55] <sfan5> is it possible to save the output of a program to a file and output it in realtime (in bash)?
[21:55] <syncer> trijntje:  /home/user/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:55] <litropy> guntbert, tried; failed.
[21:56] <guntbert> litropy: have a look at the logs on (S) - also I have no experience with upnp
[21:57] <trijntje> syncer: thanks!
[21:57] <Septima> sfan5: output to a file AND output to bash at the same time?
[21:57] <sfan5> yes
[21:58] <syncer> anyone how using iscsi root here?
[21:58] <Septima> sfan5: use tee
[21:58] <iRONCOMICS_> How do  add unsupported resolution (1024x768) on my netbook ubuntu v12.04
[21:58] <sfan5> Septima: that worked! thx
[21:59] <smw> Is there no ubuntu-12.10 alternative install cd?
[21:59] <Septima> smw: there's a minimal install
[21:59] <smw> no alternate install cd?
[22:00] <litropy> guntbert, hahahaha - vino-server wasn't running. Launched the server; all set now. thanks for your help.
[22:00] <smw> have they stopped producing them?
[22:00] <Septima> smw: i think they did
[22:00]  * smw is scared
[22:00] <guntbert> litropy: glad you got it sorted :)
[22:00] <smw> Septima, it is the only one I know how to use!
[22:00] <Noskcaj> smw: its only for lubuntu now, or get netboot
[22:01] <guntbert> !alternate | smw
[22:01] <ztgu> I need help with partitioning
[22:01] <ztgu>  I can't find anything with the exact same size as in windows,	C:\ drive 186 gb,	D:\ drive 258 gb		dev/sda4 200 gb,	dev/sda5/ 277.5 gb	dev/sda6 21,4 gb,  	Do you understand?
[22:01] <smw> where do I complain? lol
[22:01] <iRONCOMICS_> how do i add unsupported resolutions to ubuntu 12.04
[22:01] <smw> guntbert, what was the reason they discontinued it?
[22:01] <Noskcaj> smw: lack of use/nessesity i assume
[22:02] <RollinV2> trijntje, you can also launch individual ssh sessions with -i directory/to/ssh/key/keyfilename
[22:02] <guntbert> smw: I don't know - but discussion of that is off topic *here*
[22:02] <Noskcaj> smw, ask/annoy on #ubuntu-release
[22:03] <Dabo_> begginners
[22:03] <Dabo_> sorry
[22:03] <RollinV2> smw, if you want a leaner ubuntu try xubuntu
[22:03] <smw> RollinV2, I don't, I just want the installer I know
[22:04] <Noskcaj> smw, then lubuntu alternate or netboot
[22:04] <trijntje> RollinV2: thanks, but I just needed to copy the key from my pc to laptop, so I set it as the default (id_rsa)
[22:05] <ztgu>  I can't find anything with the exact same size as in windows,	C:\ drive 186 gb,	D:\ drive 258 gb		dev/sda4 200 gb,	dev/sda5/ 277.5 gb	dev/sda6 21,4 gb,  	Do you understand?
[22:05] <ztgu> can anyone help with my partitioning problem?
[22:05] <smw> Noskcaj, I guess I will install 12.04.1
[22:05] <Septima> ztgu: elaborate on the issue
[22:05] <Noskcaj> !patience | ztgu
[22:06] <Noskcaj> smw, ok. what's wrong with netboot or lubuntu
[22:06] <smw> Noskcaj, both require internet to install all the things I want.
[22:07] <Flannel> ztgu: the 186 corresponds to the 200 (sda4), the 258 corresponds to the 277.5 (sda5).  The size differences are because of base 10 vs base 2 (1024 = KB vs 1000 = KB)
[22:07] <Noskcaj> smw: and ubuntu alternate or a normal installer do not?
[22:07] <Noskcaj> *lubuntu
[22:08] <smw> Noskcaj, lubuntu would require me to then install ubuntu-desktop afterwards
[22:08] <smw> the normal installer would work
[22:09] <Dabo_> I am having an error with unity. After I updated my system, it seems to be running unity2d, instead of the regular. Selecting "ubuntu2d" or "ubuntu" in the log in screen both result in unity2d. When I run unity in terminal with debug on, I get this: http://pastebin.com/qZLCsBcs
[22:10] <ituvox> Hello, I'm having trouble with a multifunctional scanner on ubuntu 12.04. The printer works fine, and sane finds the scanner, but trying to run iscan or other scan utilities just stalls until I stop the program or unplug the cable. The printer/scanner is epson tx133.
[22:11] <Septima> Dabo_: update your video drivers
[22:11] <ztgu> Thank you for replying Flannel, but why are they not the same size as in windows?
[22:12] <RollinV2> ztgu linux systems report true gb sizes... 1,024mb as opposed to 1,000mb
[22:12] <Dabo_> Do you know where I can find video driver updates?
[22:12] <Septima> Dabo_: what card?
[22:14] <Dabo_> I am not sure, I am trying to find it now
[22:15] <user82> (maybe anyonw knows now) where do i start when my bluetooth does not work. lshw and lspi do not find any suitable device...but the "bluetooth" module in the kernel is loaded
[22:16] <Dabo_> Would this be the card?  VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[22:16] <Septima> Dabo_: yes
[22:16] <Evil_Eric> user82 what type of device are you connecting i find that some devices will only work if connected through blueman
[22:16] <stephans_> help, I installed nvidia drivers in 12.10  and now there is no graphics...
[22:17] <Dabo_> I also get this result: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [V
[22:17] <Dabo_> GA controller])
[22:17] <user82> Evil_Eric, i cannot enable the bluetooth module in the notebook
[22:17] <Septima> Dabo_: that's fairly new, you can try getting the drivers off nvidia.com for it; or you can try the ones here: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages
[22:17] <Evil_Eric> oh
[22:17] <user82> it loads the bluetooth module but then when i click "enable" nothing happens
[22:17] <Evil_Eric> good luck with that then user82
[22:18] <stephans_> I also installed linux-source and linux-headers-eneris and removed and reinstalled nvidi-current-updates...
[22:18] <user82> thanks Evil_Eric ... linux 3.7.0 did not yet include a driver :/
[22:18] <Dabo_> Thank you
[22:18] <user82> but is there a way to find out which hardware is built in? no matter if a driver exists or not?
[22:18] <yapli_> irc://irc.rezosup.org:6667/physique
[22:19] <ikonia> yapli_: ?
[22:19] <stephans_> still, when watching the install of nvidia is says that the compiling module for current kernel was skipped since the source dows not seem to be installed... ??
[22:19] <stephans_> but I did install it
[22:19] <stephans_> does anyone have a tip+
[22:19] <stephans_> ?
[22:19] <Septima> stephans_: make sure you have all the dependencies that nvidia specifies
[22:19] <user82> Evil_Eric, dmidecode finds it
[22:20] <ikonia> stephans_: why are you not using the nvidia drivers provided by ubuntu
[22:20] <doubledubba> I want to write a python script that pauses the currently playing music in ubuntu.  Where should I start looking in the API?
[22:20] <ikonia> doubledubba: #python
[22:20] <stephans_> ikonia, the drive by default was nuveau... so not a performer...
[22:21] <ikonia> stephans_: right, so ubuntu also provides some propitary ones too
[22:21] <stephans_> Septima, what dependencies? apt will satisfy them no?
[22:21] <asdf12> anyon get virtualbox guest additions working in ubuntu 12.10?
[22:21] <ikonia> !nvidia | stephans_
[22:21] <stephans_> ikonia, those are the ones that I use...
[22:22] <ikonia> stephans_: where did you get them ?
[22:22] <doubledubba> I am fluent in python. I don't think the guys over at #python would be as helpful
[22:22] <doubledubba> i'm not familiar with unity
[22:22] <doubledubba> I just don't know where to start looking
[22:22] <doubledubba> what part of the unity system control the sound?
[22:22] <ikonia> the music player api would be a start
[22:24] <doubledubba> thanks ikonia
[22:24] <ikonia> doubledubba: could also try hooking into pulse, but that's more "sound" rather than music player
[22:25] <doubledubba> i see
[22:25] <doubledubba> im actually trying to pause the music for the pandora webapp
[22:25] <doubledubba> in the sound menu
[22:26] <doubledubba> while it is running.
[22:26] <doubledubba> is that possible?
[22:26] <ikonia> no idea
[22:27] <MACscr> how do i switch from the server kernel to the virtual kernel in Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[22:27] <doubledubba> allright
[22:27] <doubledubba> thanks anyways
[22:28] <doubledubba> i think i might have to re-write the code for the pandora webapp to do what im trying to do
[22:28] <doubledubba> too much work
[22:28] <doubledubba> nevermind haha
[22:28] <doubledubba> bye all!
[22:28] <MACscr> i tried apt-get install linux-image-kernel, but that didnt seem to update boot like i normally would
[22:28] <FloodBot1> doubledubba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <compdoc> MACscr, never knew there was a virtual kernel. Especially for such an ol version
[22:28] <machicola> how do I make my usb bootable
[22:29] <machicola> is it possible even though i only have 200 megs left on it? 750 to ubuntu.iso
[22:29] <machicola> when i try to boot from USB in BIOS i'm getting 'missing operating system'
[22:30] <machicola> i suppose I need to install a bootloader onto the usb?
[22:31] <machicola> my usb is showing up in bios but it unable to successfully boot from it
[22:31] <stephans_> Unfortunatley the support site only shows the basic steps... I am wondering why the apt-get install nvidia-current-updates works when i have the headers and source installed... the install does not see the headers or the source... why?
[22:32] <maslo> hi guys I just did a clean postfix install and when I try to receive an external email it bounces back saying error 550 550 5.1.1, can anyone help me out ?
[22:32] <machicola> oh damn, this is probably like holiday season
[22:32] <machicola> might be harder to find support/help :-(
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> machicola  you need enough space on the thumb drive, to put ubuntu on it
[22:33] <MACscr> compdoc: oops, it was simple as 'apt-get install linux-virtual'
[22:33] <MACscr> nvm, i lied, it didnt do it either =/
[22:33] <machicola> ahh, MonkeyDust , thanks
[22:33] <machicola> I didn't consider that
[22:34] <machicola> someone in error told me a 1 gigger would be big enough
[22:34] <machicola> that makes sense.... need enough room for the full install
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> machicola an empty 1GB, that is
[22:34] <stephans_> the nvidia module is not built because it does not see the source or the headers? I do not understand why. What am i missing?
[22:35] <stephans_> lts works... not 12.10... what changed?
[22:35] <machicola> MonkeyDust, I have a gig size USB and the ubuntu12.10.iso on it is taking up 750MB
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> machicola  an empty 1GB, to create a live usb stick
[22:35] <machicola> yeah, so I guess I'm good then
[22:35] <maslo> can anyone explain the the use of dummy on this tutorial http://blog.thecodingmachine.com/fr/content/triggering-php-script-when-your-postfix-server-receives-mail ? I understand the rest but it doesn't say much as to why we have to use that
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> machicola  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:36] <aleksa> hello :) My wifi stops working after a while
[22:36] <aleksa> need help
[22:36] <danishman> use a wire, not wifi
[22:36] <aleksa> I'm having USB netgear wireless adapter. Signal is full, but it just stops working after some minutes
[22:36] <blackbird34> hi aleksa can you add a few details?
[22:36] <aleksa> sure
[22:37] <blackbird34> do you have to reboot to make it work again?
[22:37] <machicola> that support page doesn't seem to be very helpful MonkeyDust , I've read it... also it says 2GB for some reason
[22:37] <aleksa> no, I just unplug the USB and put it in againg, and it works after 30 seconds
[22:38] <aleksa> I have to be quick, cause I expect it to stop working in every minute
[22:38] <aleksa> :(
[22:38] <machicola> nevermind MonkeyDust , i think i've missed a key part on it the first time
[22:38] <machicola> thanks, bbiab
[22:38] <blackbird34> are you sure the USB isn't faulty?
[22:39] <blackbird34> aleksa are you sure the USB isn't faulty?
[22:40] <Flannel> ztgu: It's because windows displays the sizes in base-2 prefixes (where 1KB = 1024 B) and Ubuntu displays them in base 10 (where 1KB = 1000B).  It's not a lot at the kilobyte (technically called a kibibyte when in base 2), but when you get up to Gigabytes (and Gibibytes) the difference is significant.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion
[22:40] <ztgu> thank you Flannel
[22:42] <poz> so i have a question about a printer
[22:43] <poz> i have a Samsung SCX-472x Series it does not appear in the printer driver database
[22:43] <poz> and nothing shows up when it is searching. is there a way to get it to work?
[22:43] <stephans_> ikonia, I got the drivers from the main ubuntu repo
[22:44] <aleksa> Yes, I am. It worked until I installed 12.10 from zero
[22:45] <nicho_> Hello. I'm having some problems with my two raid 5's combined with a logical volume. LVM says that it can't find a drive, missing uuid, blkid says that md0 exists, but not md1, and mdadm -D reports that both arrays are healthy. Anyone experienced this before?
[22:48] <blackbird34> aleksa: have you looked around the net to see if others have problems with the same hardware and Ubuntu 12.10 ? What kind of usb dongle is it?
[22:48] <jingoges> I have an older dell currently running Joli OS Linux and I'd like to run Ubuntu instead. How do I go about getting that set up?
[22:49] <aleksa> it's netgear w3100. Had to install ndiswrapper and to use windows driver
[22:52] <aleksa> google shows nothing, just people having problems, but none of it is for 12.10
[22:54] <troulouliou_dev> hi , what is the best remote desktop solution that behave like terminal server with login ...
[22:54] <troulouliou_dev> vnc server only allow to connect when user is connected
[22:55] <PePiTO> hi, I need some help, how to refresh flash player version, please ?
[22:55] <compdoc> troulouliou_dev, that sounds liek desktop sharing. You have to actaully install a vnc server to allow anyone to conenct even when there is on one on the console
[22:56] <nicho_> my pvdisplay says that it "Couldn't find device with uuid '<insert uuid here>'", which is disk /dev/md1 - how do I go from here? from what I can see from mdadm --detail, the array is fine
[22:56] <ikonia> stephans_: if you go the drivers from the ubuntu repo, it won't complain about compiling them
[22:56] <ikonia> stephans_: the package manager will do it all fo your
[22:56] <ikonia> for
[22:56] <troulouliou_dev> comdoc , yes but i would like to connect directly to gdm/ xdm and close local session if opened like terminal server
[22:56] <Blahman101> Anyone have any skill in getting Firefox/Flash (for youtube and Pandora) to use digital audio out? Mplayer, mythtv, etc.. are all good, but I just can't seem to get Firefox workin
[22:56] <troulouliou_dev> comdoc there are several solution around that just would like to know the best one
[22:57] <stephans_> ikonia, that is how I got in to this mess... I just checked the box in Nvidia drivers...
[22:57] <stephans_> then boom!
[22:57] <ikonia> stephans_: right, but you're also saying things like "it's complaining about compiling"
[22:57] <ikonia> stephans_: which isn't true if you've used the nvidia package from ubuntu repos
[22:58] <stephans_> that is when i have subsequently done apt-get install nvidia-current and watched the cli
[22:58] <angel56> troulouliou_dev: vnc should work even if you aren't logged in, but you might want to look instead at X forwarding via ssh
[22:58] <stephans_> I followed the troubleshooting steps...
[22:58] <stephans_> remove the drivers
[22:58] <stephans_> install the headers
[22:59] <stephans_> reinstall the drivers
[22:59] <stephans_> and reboot
[22:59] <troulouliou_dev> angel56, nah ssh forwarding dont' fit btw are you sure that vnc can work at display manager login level ?
[22:59] <stephans_> I then noted that the install was not seeing the 'source' for the current kernel...
[23:00] <stephans_> not sure if it matters...
[23:00] <stephans_> but no gui none the less
[23:01] <ikonia> stephans_: the package manager should deal with all of this
[23:01] <ikonia> stephans_: there should be zero need for any of this as it's pre-compiled package
[23:01] <stephans_> ikonia, then I cant understand why it did not work...
[23:02] <stephans_> originally in the GUI it saw and suggested the NVidia drivers.
[23:02] <Catbuntu> hello
[23:02] <stephans_> I am confused...
[23:03] <stephans_> maybe 12.10 is kinda betaish after all...
[23:03] <stephans_> ?
[23:03] <Septima> stephans_: unity is wonky
[23:04] <lupo> sup guys
[23:04] <OerHeks> stephans_, did you install the experimental or the stable driver ?
[23:04] <stephans_> OerHeks, I tried them all.
[23:05] <OerHeks> stephans_, and what nvidia card do you have, optimus by chance ?
[23:05] <ikonia> 12.10 is not a beta
[23:05] <stephans_> OerHeks, none of them worked...
[23:05] <ikonia> please explain "none of them work"
[23:05] <stephans_> OerHeks, no, its a mac mini learly 2009..
[23:05] <stephans_> i have to look it up...
[23:06] <ikonia> stephans_: 1.) do you have an nvidia module loaded 2.) did you configure xorg.conf to load the propritary nvidia driver ?
[23:06] <stephans_> OerHeks, its: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 128MB or 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
[23:07] <stephans_> ikonia, I expected the deb file to perform any necessary configuring...
[23:07] <ikonia> deb file ?
[23:07] <ikonia> you should not be using a deb file
[23:07] <ikonia> you should be pulling it out of the ubuntu repos
[23:07] <stephans_> and the module does not load by the way.
[23:08] <ikonia> right, so 1.) the module has to load 2.) you need to configure your xorg.conf
[23:08] <stephans_> ikonia, i am... the repos have deb files in them
[23:08] <stephans_> ikonia, i am simply using the apt commands.
[23:08] <ikonia> stephans_: right, so you still need to configure xorg.conf
[23:08] <ikonia> stephans_: you also need to make sure the nvidia module can load
[23:08] <stephans_> as instructed on the trouble shooting on the ubuntu home page
[23:09] <ikonia> stephans_: I've just told you what you need to do
[23:09] <stephans_> ikonia, chek onthe xorg file I saw the command to let nvidia do that... but what about the module how do i make it load?
[23:10] <ikonia> stephans_: have you verified the xorg.conf ?
[23:11] <stephans_> ikonia, xorg.conf is configured to load nvidia.
[23:11] <ikonia> stephans_: can you show me the line to verify that please.
[23:13] <stephans_> in the section "Device" the line with driver says Deriver "nvidia"
[23:13] <stephans_> Driver...
[23:13] <stephans_> Sorry xchat on a separate computer.
[23:13] <stephans_> have to type
[23:14] <ikonia> thats ok
[23:14] <nicho_> right, seems i had a semi-broken array of disks. fixed it, but still need to give LVM a jolt, to recognize the now working raid. how do I tell it to go ahead and mount stuff?
[23:14] <ikonia> stephans_: ok, so what happens if you insmod the nvidia module
[23:14] <Lautra> Hello guys. So I just installed lubuntu on my old lapto and it works like a charm. The only problem is that neither of my control keys work.
[23:14] <ikonia> nicho_: change the volume group to active status
[23:15] <Lautra> When I do Leftcontro+t nothing happens, when I do rightControl+t it just writes a t instead of opening, for example, a new tab on chromium.
[23:15] <Lautra> Any ideas?
[23:15] <stephans_> insmod: can't read 'nvidia': No such file or directory
[23:15] <Benn> can you install .ttf fonts on Kubuntu?
[23:15] <blami> Benn: sure
[23:15] <stephans_>  insmod nvidia
[23:15] <ikonia> stephans_: ok, so the issue is the nvidia module is not here
[23:15] <ikonia> stephans_: (use sudo)
[23:16] <stephans_> ikonia, i did a sudo -s out of laziness...
[23:16] <ikonia> ok
[23:16] <ikonia> so now you know your problem
[23:16] <stephans_> ikonia, that is my suspicion...
[23:17] <ikonia> it's not a suspicion
[23:17] <ikonia> is't fact
[23:17] <ikonia> you don't have the nvidia kernel module on your system
[23:17] <Benn> blami: I opened system fonts by typing fonts:/// into rekinq. Can I just drag them in there?
[23:18] <hikenboot_> how do i disable routing between two network cards on the same subnet in the same server? I want to be able to map 1 to 1 with nat each of these two ip's for web servers
[23:19] <nicho_> phew jesus christ it's back online. it's a christmas miracle. thanks ikonia for the help!
[23:19] <blami> Benn: not sure, I'm installing them by copying to ~/.local/share/fonts
[23:19] <ICU> need help , with the instalation of wine
[23:20] <stephans_> ikonia, when i reissue apt-get install nvidia-current, i get: nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[23:20] <nicho_> seems the issue was that mdadm, instead of making a array of the partitions (sda1, sdb1, etc) - it made a array of the physical disks (sda, sdb, etc), how do I avoid this in the future?
[23:20] <ikonia> stephans_: the package may well be, remove it and re-install it
[23:20] <stephans_> ikonia and the insmod commans still fails...
[23:21] <ikonia> nicho_: issue the mdadm commands correctly
[23:21] <ICU> can any bodey help pls\
[23:21] <Septima> ICU: are you sure you want the original wine?
[23:21] <nicho_> thanks ikonia, it's probably my config that's faulty
[23:22] <ikonia> nicho_: not being rude, but mdadm only does what you tell it to do
[23:22] <ICU> i am new , i just want wine to see how games go under linux
[23:22] <ikonia> nicho_: and there is nothing wrong with using a disk over a partition
[23:22] <Septima> ICU: i recommend PlayOnLinux
[23:22] <ICU> ok , where can i get it
[23:22] <nicho_> alright ikonia, all I did was stop the array and start it again, this time specifically telling it to use the partitions - and it worked
[23:23] <Septima> ICU: http://www.playonlinux.com
[23:23] <mathxz> I'm kinda new to the linux directory structure and I was just wondering where I'd put certain files, I know that I should put my applicatins in /usr/local/bin but where should I put my conf file for them? or other required files for that 1 app? thank you for clearing it up for me!
[23:23] <ikonia> mathxz: you put them where the applications need them
[23:23] <ICU> thanks , but it gives me an eror
[23:23] <ICU> The following packages have unmet dependencies:playonlinux:
[23:24] <daniel> hi
[23:24] <daniel> guys i need help please
[23:24] <mathxz> ikonia: so let's say I make an executable php script in /usr/local/bin and it requires a class, do i just put that class in /usr/local/bin too?
[23:24] <daniel> could someone help me?
[23:24] <mathxz> do I make a folder in /usr/local/bin and just put everything in it regarding that certain script?
[23:24] <ikonia> mathxz: where ever the applicatoin needs it to be
[23:24] <Septima> Guest35746: just ask
[23:24] <ikonia> mathxz: it's not dynamic
[23:24] <Guest35746> what does it mean?
[23:24] <Guest35746> someone can help me?
[23:25] <Guest35746> please
[23:25] <ikonia> Guest35746: ask a question
[23:25] <Guest35746> thanks
[23:25] <Guest35746> i just installed Xubuntu today and it has problems when i update it
[23:25] <mathxz> ikonia: I know there's no requirement but I'm just trying to figure out what's the usual, I guess I'll make a folder in /usr/local/bin/appname and put all the required file in there
[23:25] <jhutchins_wk> !fhs
[23:26] <Guest35746> this is shown after i try to update
[23:26] <Guest35746> W:Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:26] <Guest35746> , W:Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:26] <Guest35746> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:26] <FloodBot1> Guest35746: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26] <ikonia> mathxz: there is no "usual" it depends on the application
[23:26] <Guest35746> what do i must to do please
[23:26] <jhutchins_wk> Guest35746: Probably that repository is just temporarily out of sync.  Try another repository or wait a while.
[23:27] <Guest35746> change the server?
[23:27] <mathxz> going to read that jhutchins thank you and ikonia alrighty I was just wondering because applications installed through a package manager follow a certain structures
[23:28] <ikonia> mathxz: they actually don't, it depends on who packages them
[23:28] <jhutchins_wk> mathxz: As with most things in Linux, there isn't one right way to do it.  The trick is to pick one method and be consistent so YOU know where things are.  (Taking notes is good too.)
[23:29] <mathxz> alrighty! Thank you jhutchins_wk & ikonia, I appreciate it , I acquired a virtual private server recently and I have been learning linux~
[23:29] <daniele> HI guys , Hi installed steam latest version on my ubuntu 12.04 , therefore it isn't work, I view this message : this version of steam is currently in closed beta. login with an enrolled  account to continue
[23:30] <Guest35746> Flood thank you!
[23:30] <Guest35746> it has worked!
[23:30] <ikonia> daniele: .....so what does that message say to you
[23:30] <Guest35746> thanks a lot dude!
[23:30] <Guest35746> :)
[23:31] <daniele> ikonia, I need help, steam does not work and I see the error message described above
[23:32] <ikonia> daniele: think about it "this version is closed beta, login with an enrolled account"
[23:32] <ikonia> daniele: your account is not valid for that beta stage
[23:32] <ikonia> it's a pretty clear message
[23:33] <RollinV2> daniele, the steam on linux is in closed beta. if you dont have a beta invite you can't login
[23:33] <daniele> ikonia, but I'm use the latest version, then the version open to all
[23:33] <ikonia> again...it's a prett clear message
[23:33] <ikonia> daniele: no, it's not
[23:33] <ikonia> daniele: the version you are using is a closed beta as the error says
[23:33] <RollinV2> daniele, you can try to get an invite key from the offical steam forums. but you have a Steam problem, not a ubuntu one
[23:34] <daniele> RollinV2, oook I will try on steam forum
[23:36] <RollinV2> ikonia you ok? i seen a ban fly out and several status changes.
[23:37] <ikonia> RollinV2: I'm fine
[23:38] <RollinV2> ikonia: ok, just checking.
[23:39] <stephans_> ikonia, i did sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current linux-source linux-headers-*
[23:39] <stephans_> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge
[23:39] <lupo> so this is a IRC?
[23:39] <lupo> good
[23:39] <stephans_> and then installed again...
[23:39] <stephans_> you can see the result at http://pastebin.com/pnduBCye
[23:40] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[23:41] <ikonia> stephans_: side note...your kernel maybe out of date
[23:41] <stephans_> ikonia, there you can see: Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[23:41] <stephans_> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[23:41] <ikonia> current kernel is 3.5.0.21, not 17
[23:41] <ikonia> make sure your system is up to date first
[23:42] <stephans_> ikonia, ok i see it has been kept back...
[23:42] <stephans_> will do dist upgrade
[23:42] <ikonia> stephans_: I'd look at fixing that first, that may have relevence (the reason it's being held back)
[23:46] <lupo> any italians??
[23:47] <ikonia> why ?
[23:47] <IdleOne> !it
[23:48] <bel3atar> what's a good FS for a usb stick?
[23:48] <ikonia> whateer you want
[23:48] <stephans_> ikonia, that worked! GUI is back... craching on login though... deleted .* in home dir and can now login
[23:48] <stephans_> thantk you.
[23:48] <ikonia> stephans_: well done
[23:48] <stephans_> I hopw it will not break again! :)
[23:53] <Vlany> hello. please could somebody help me to install the video drivers for Radeon 9200 PRO?
[23:54] <ThomasB-laptop> test
[23:55] <FuzzyThor> Whats up ppl
[23:56] <bartzy> Hello
[23:56] <FuzzyThor> can someone help me trouble shoot an issue im having with screen on 12.10 server
[23:57] <Noskcaj> Vlany, the stuff you need is in software sources, under the "drivers" tab
[23:57] <bartzy> I have an SSD as a primary drive, and a secondary normal HDD (on a laptop). The secondary HDD turns off after a while (a few minutes). I think this is dangerous to the drive to turn off and on all the time? Can I disable it ?
[23:57] <Noskcaj> !ask | FuzzyThor
[23:58] <Noskcaj> bartzy, it can rduce the hard drive life slightly but isn't a huge risk, and yes. i forget if its and OS or BIOS thing though
[23:59] <bartzy> Noskcaj: I hear that "click" sound of stand by (like you turn off a computer) every 10 minutes. Isn't that very dangerous ?
[23:59] <Lautra> Maybe there's a way to map the windows key so it becomes control.
[23:59] <bartzy> Also, it happens also when the laptop is on AC power... That's weird.
[23:59] <Lautra> I need very much control key.
[23:59] <Lautra> Any ideas?