[00:34] <IdleOne> if/when lupo_ returns he is having sound issues, he does speak English well enough to be understood.
[00:34]  * IdleOne goes to eat
[01:24] <bazhang> they  have no issues. it's an anti unity rant mixed with Mint commentary
 what happened to ubuntu? I have to restart on a daily basis
 it use to be that I would restart a couple times a year
[01:27] <bazhang> thats his issue
[01:27] <bazhang> all due to unity, or so he says
[01:27] <elky> he was giving snark before the kick too.
[01:28] <bazhang> yeah, that was pre-kick
[01:29] <elky> the wife calling him at work thing too
[01:31] <ikonia> lvleph: hello
[01:34] <lvleph> hello ikonia
[01:34] <ikonia> what do you need from the operators
[01:35] <lvleph> I was going to complain about being booted for no reason, but I seriously don't care
[01:35] <ikonia> ok, then please /part this channel
[01:35] <elky> lvleph, considering you've already been apologised to for the tab-complete accident, and had someone offer to personally address your technical issue, everything is quite above board as I see it. If we were to start firing volunteers for such accidents, we'd have to shut the channel down and then you _would_ have to find elsewhere.
[01:35] <elky> So please, go enjoy your holiday period.
[01:35] <lvleph> Well the issue was also that I was told I was off topic multiple times even though I said the issue was with unity in ubuntu
[01:36] <ikonia> lvleph: you're not bothered, so no point discussing it
[01:36] <ikonia> please /part the channel
[01:37] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu gentoo used to be "thesarge" just being a pain and arguing when asked basic questions to actually get info to help him
[01:37] <elky> New rule in #u. nobody can have the first 3 letters of their nick similar to another :P
[01:37] <bazhang> gentoon
[01:37] <elky> That would surely solve everything
[01:38] <IdleOne> I usually tab after the first 3 letters
[01:38] <bazhang> he just got unbanned  a couple of days ago, too, for self-admitted "trolling"
[01:38] <IdleOne> not sure why i didn't this time
[01:53] <bazhang> yeah he's in full rant mode in PM
[01:57] <gentoon> I need another op besides bazhang
[01:57] <gentoon> He is being unfair
[01:58] <gentoon> I had a guy repeatidly asking me the same question he already knew the answer too, and I answered him each time.
[01:58] <gentoon> and all I said was that he was trolling me once
[01:58] <gentoon> and bazhang said to stop and I never called him another name after, or said he was trolling and now I am banned?
[01:59] <bazhang> gentoon, ikonia was simply asking for clarification. nothing more.
[02:00] <gentoon> I can show you him acknowledging he knew it was a USB drive 3 times in the logs
[02:00] <gentoon> and he asked 3 times in a row and I answered each time.
[02:00] <gentoon> He was baiting me because earlier he was upset with me.
[02:00] <bazhang> the ban was removed much too much early in your case gentoon
[02:00] <gentoon> No it wasnt
[02:00] <bazhang> that has been remedied.
[02:01] <gentoon> The ban was over, This new ffense warrants no new ban
[02:01] <gentoon> I want another op
[02:01] <gentoon> Dude you just ignore me when I tell you he asked me 3 times in a row and I answered each time?
[02:02] <gentoon> How is that just asking for clarification?
[02:02] <gentoon> Please tell me that?
[02:02] <bazhang> gentoon, consider that we deal with more than one issue at a time
[02:02] <gentoon> He was only dealing with me it was 3 times ina  minute...
[02:02] <gentoon> Are you serious rught now?
[02:03] <bazhang> we are in more than a single channel...
[02:03] <ikonia> if you like I'll explain what I was trying to ask you
[02:03] <gentoon> He forgot 3 times in one minute while the answer was still on his screen 2 times?
[02:03] <gentoon> I know what you were asking me
[02:03] <gentoon> and I answered you 3 times.
[02:03] <bazhang> gentoon, the ban has been reinstated.
[02:04] <ikonia> it's a common mistake,
[02:04] <gentoon> bazhang: No the ban time I was assigned was over
[02:04] <ikonia> I didn't forget, I was just trying to clarify you where mounting the read/write image from the thumdrive and not the image from the media you where running from, as your IRC name is "live session user" suggesting you where running on a live media
[02:04] <gentoon> You are issuing a new ban for nothing
[02:04] <ikonia> but I'll leave that with you
[02:05] <gentoon> Yes I understood that and told you it was read/write the first second and 3rd time you asked me
[02:05] <gentoon> you were just trying to bait me
[02:05] <gentoon> bazhang: Dude you are only banning me because I am African American and I am sick of it.
[02:06] <ikonia> no-one knows your race
[02:06] <gentoon> I am forwarding your PM's to the other opers.
[02:06] <gentoon> He does
[02:06] <gentoon> From PM
[02:06] <ikonia> please don't forward pm's please make an official complaint
[02:06] <ikonia> if you feel it's warrented
[02:06] <gentoon> Dont worry about what I do
[02:07] <ikonia> ok, then we are done
[02:07] <ikonia> bye
[02:07] <gentoon> I know how to deal with freenode I have been here 3x as long as you
[02:07] <gentoon> and have had 4 users k lined
[02:07] <ikonia> what a pointless comment
[02:07] <ikonia> freenode doesn't run the ubuntu channels, so good luck with that
[02:07] <gentoon> They still enforce descrimination rules from their TOS on any channel
[02:08] <gentoon> You should read more
[02:08] <ikonia> sure sure
[02:08] <ikonia> good luck with that
[02:08] <gentoon> You dont believe me?
[02:08] <ikonia> I'll let you get on with your complaint
[02:08] <ikonia> bye
[02:08] <gentoon> Plus its soo easy to ban evade here
[02:08] <ikonia> ok, bye then
[02:08] <gentoon> I have 3 bots in #ubuntu
[02:08] <gentoon> and ill showly get all 68 of them in there
[02:09] <gentoon> Stop talking
[02:09] <ikonia> please /part the channel and raise your concerns with who you think appropriate
[12:28] <alabd> Good day all , wouuld someone remove my ban from #ubuntu ? it's long time ..
[12:54] <ikonia> alabd: I'm sorry, but that's how it needs to stay at the moment
[12:54] <alabd> no problem ,
[12:55] <ikonia> thanks
[12:56] <alabd> when should i ask for it ikonia
[12:56] <ikonia> alabd: to be honest, when how you use IRC changes
[12:57] <ikonia> we've explained why how you use IRC doesn't work in #ubuntu, and you still use this approach
[12:57] <ikonia> so there doesn't seem to be any reason to allow you use #ubuntu while you still approach IRC in the same way
[12:57] <alabd> what's the problem with my use ?
[12:58] <ikonia> I'm not going through this with you again
[12:58] <ikonia> but the bottom line is inability to listen, withholding information, changing the problem
[12:59] <alabd> no really ,i dunno , and i'm asking just to know ...so i'll be thankful if you notice me this in private if i did so in other channels
[13:00] <ikonia> I've seen you in other channels, which is why I know your approach hasn't changed
[13:00] <ikonia> yestrerday someone refused to help you any more unless you paid him money - that was a good guy, who just had enough of trying to work with you
[13:00] <ikonia> that's just an example
[13:00] <ikonia> we often found that situation in #ubuntu with you
[13:00] <ikonia> and it's still happening
[13:01] <ikonia> a guy pointed you to #ubuntu today.....as he didn't want to deal with you again
[13:01] <ikonia> again, that's not good
[13:01] <ikonia> I'm not trying to be rude, but those are the reasons we removed you from #ubuntu and it's still an issue today
[13:01] <alabd> ok , i don't get  really, what was my fault yesterday
[13:01] <alabd> you mean i should pay him money ?
[13:01] <ikonia> I think that's half the issue, you don't see the isuse you create
[13:02] <ikonia> no, you should not give him money
[13:02] <ikonia> it hilights that you where taking up / wasting so much of his time that he didn't want to help you any more until you bought his services
[13:02] <alabd> ok he/she could stop helping me for free , what is the problem here? really don't get
[13:04] <ikonia> the problem is you frustrate people to that level and waste so much of the channels time that people refuse to help any more unless you pay them money (as an example only)
[13:04] <ikonia> alabd: I suggest you continue using other support channels
[13:06] <alabd> ikonia: i don't understand your reasons , maybe i'm faulty but can't get .. maybe not , i really wana know ... he/she asked me to pay , form that moment i didn't asked him/her again ...also i didn't ask in channel again ..iirc ...
[13:06] <ikonia> alabd: lets leave it there
[13:13] <ikonia> alabd: could you please /part the channel
[13:13] <alabd> just to be sure myself i checked logs ... he/she asked me to give him/her logs..then said  alabd: I won't comment further on this issue without more info.  At least not for free. ...the i said : :P i'm installing pastebinit on server man , w8.....then i gave him/her configs ..and then  he/she solved my problem ..
[13:15] <ikonia> alabd: yes, you gave him configs after he refused to help any more
[13:15] <ikonia> it shouldn't get to that stage
[13:18] <alabd> i think you ikonia are pessimistic about me , i really could not gave him/her config file sooner ... becuase i should install pastebinit after installing pastebin did not work well , he/she gave me a solution >  (09:51:53 PM) ***: alabd: | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <ikonia> I am pessimistic about you, yes
[13:18] <ikonia> for the reasons I've just said
[13:19] <ikonia> so that's why the ban will stay
[13:19] <alabd> yes it took time for me .. but it was not because of my bad understanding of using irc channel ...
[13:19] <ikonia> well, it's not going to change a this time
[13:21] <alabd> i don't want argue more on this , but you see sometimes human judge faulty ... if you need check my behavior more , no problem ,check more , thank you for attention ,
[13:22] <ikonia> ok. bye
[13:22] <alabd> bye
[13:36] <elky> holy... he got through that conversation without saying "humble"?
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> someone read -offtopic
[16:56] <TheLordOfTime> before someone causes epicragenuke to go off in there.
[16:57] <TheLordOfTime> thank you.
[23:06] <bkerensa> Happy Holidays!