| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| solarcloud_3scrn | That tme when your postman says you've a small package over the intercom :priceless; but then you it from the National Sports Centre asking for your *subs* & clicks: for everything else there's a FSWheat+Bannana Bowl. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-4.50535774230957&minlat=54.1520500183105&maxlon=-4.5037317276001&maxlat=54.153392791748 | 09:56 |
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| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 10:22 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: \0 | 10:28 |
| brobostigon | morning kvarley | 10:32 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: How goes it? | 10:32 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: crap, i hate having my personal space invaded by aliens. and you? | 10:33 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: Hehe. Pretty good, just got some good code done :) | 10:34 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: :) | 10:34 |
| brobostigon | i just feel like crawling into a hole with wifi for the next week. | 10:35 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: Family festiveness well and truly underway then? | 10:35 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: yes, and i hate it. i dont like the busy, i would rather have nice calm and quiet. | 10:36 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: hehe, it'll be over soon enough | 10:38 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: yes, in the meantime, i will be on edge, and in total panic, | 10:39 |
| brobostigon | and my sleep will be disturbed etc. | 10:39 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Good morning peeps :) | 12:01 |
| brobostigon | good afternoon bigcalm_laptop | 12:04 |
| brobostigon | :) | 12:04 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Aha, life! | 12:05 |
| bigcalm_laptop | How are you brobostigon ? | 12:05 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm_laptop: could be better, i dont like aliens invading my personal space, otherwise fine, and you? | 12:06 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Ah, family visiting? | 12:06 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 12:06 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Heh | 12:07 |
| brobostigon | bigcalm_laptop: worse, if having more people around, messes with my routines, which is very disturbing. | 12:08 |
| penguin42 | anyone else getting spam to do with travel stuff from a different .co.uk domain each day signed off by 'Brought to you by an affiliate of Distinguished Traveller' - very difficult to spot | 12:20 |
| * penguin42 has had to add an explicit spamassassin rule for it | 12:20 | |
| bigcalm_laptop | Not me | 12:22 |
| penguin42 | very annoying, they seem to be beating both spamassassin and crm114 for me | 12:24 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| popey | Afternoon all. | 15:21 |
| kvarley | popey: Buy much this morning? | 15:23 |
| penguin42 | popey: And how was London? | 16:20 |
| popey | fun | 16:27 |
| AlanBell | I didn't go in the end, I was outvoted | 16:27 |
| bigcalm | Ahoy | 17:52 |
| penguin42 | hey BC | 17:57 |
| popey | yay, saw ISS | 17:57 |
| penguin42 | oh nice | 17:58 |
| bashrc | with a telescope? | 17:58 |
| * penguin42 has seen it once with naked eye | 17:58 | |
| mgdm | I saw it a ocuple of weeks ago with no scope or anything | 18:04 |
| mgdm | it was the brightest thing in the sky | 18:05 |
| mgdm | saw an Iridium flare shortly before that too - it was hard to miss :) | 18:06 |
| penguin42 | it's pretty easy - very bright, and slow moving but is moving | 18:11 |
| bigcalm | Cool | 18:31 |
| bigcalm | popey: 10" touch screen works really well with RPi :) | 18:31 |
| brobostigon | my brother is going to be a father next august, so uncle brobostigon here i come. | 18:32 |
| popey | yeah, we saw it with no aid | 18:32 |
| bigcalm | 2 things left to do: 1) get DSLR to take a photo via USB, 2) learn Python :S | 18:32 |
| penguin42 | bigcalm: It's interesting a lot of the cheap cameras don't seem to be able to trigger via usb, although I don't know why - maybe they can but it's not documented | 18:35 |
| bigcalm | penguin42: I'm hoping to be able to do it with CHDK | 18:36 |
| penguin42 | ch? | 18:36 |
| bigcalm | http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/350D | 18:36 |
| penguin42 | ah, posh canon | 18:37 |
| bigcalm | Quite old now | 18:37 |
| mgdm | didn't think the 350D could run CHDK | 18:53 |
| mgdm | can gphoto not trigger it? | 18:53 |
| mgdm | gphoto on the 400D can shoot but not download the photo properly - but that's fine, it's on the camera's card | 18:53 |
| mgdm | bigcalm: see above : | 18:53 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: not tried gphoto yet. Though this needs to be a fully automated process | 19:01 |
| bigcalm | User presses a touch screen button. DSLR takes photo. Controlling computer downloads photo from camera's memory for external storage | 19:02 |
| mgdm | Oh, I know what you're doing :-) | 19:02 |
| mgdm | I suspect gphoto might handle it with some massaging | 19:02 |
| mgdm | without CHDK | 19:03 |
| bigcalm | I'll have a look, ta | 19:06 |
| bigcalm | Oh, and it all needs to work in a RPi ;) | 19:06 |
| mgdm | oh run | 19:08 |
| mgdm | oh, fun | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: https://twitter.com/i/#!/bigcalm/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FcP26Iay1 | 19:08 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: most things work so far. As I say, it's just the DSLR and python thing to learn | 19:09 |
| bigcalm | I seem to be struggling to find gphoto on this system. usc says that it's installed though | 19:13 |
| penguin42 | bigcalm: How do you interface the chocolate buttons to the system? | 19:31 |
| daftykins | penguin42: XD | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: I get they fit in an SD card slot | 19:37 |
| penguin42 | bet | 19:37 |
| daftykins | :D | 19:37 |
| daftykins | nah, they're the power+reset 'buttons' ;) | 19:37 |
| penguin42 | definitely thinks he can be powered off chocolate buttons | 19:41 |
| * DJones has found an ipad that he wants, http://www.very.co.uk/chocolate-ipad/1157072458.prd | 19:46 | |
| penguin42 | DJones: Do you think it has an apple filling? | 19:47 |
| solarcloud | Happy Holidays Everyone .. here's from inside the-amd MegaTri-Core .. | 19:47 |
| solarcloud | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/cooil.org.eu/Happy%20Holidays%20to%20All%20at%20the%20Ubuntu%20Podcast%20team%2C%20Open%20sourcerer%2C%20UK-L.u.g%27s%20and%20Co..PNG | 19:47 |
| penguin42 | (Chocolate & Apple is very rare - I've had pear chocolate, and that was really nice - but we don't seem to do chocolate and orchard fruits in the UK) | 19:47 |
| daftykins | it's chocolate, but is it free? | 19:48 |
| DJones | open source chocolate? | 19:48 |
| * penguin42 prefers open chocolate sauce | 19:48 | |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 19:48 |
| * solarcloud saw a tin for that ! | 19:49 | |
| * solarcloud is away: /me requires JuanValdez. BRBack... now for that tin ... | 19:50 | |
| Azelphur | Fresh Ubuntu 12.10 install, unity isn't starting, ideas? | 20:11 |
| daftykins | it's saving you from having to encounter it | 20:13 |
| daftykins | ;) | 20:13 |
| zleap | zleap, does it work from a live cd, is your graphics hard ware good enough for unity | 20:13 |
| Azelphur | think I figured it old, old radeon driver with a new card :P | 20:13 |
| daftykins | ^_^ | 20:13 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: was it a vast improvement moving to AMD card(s)? how do you have all those screens of yours hooked up these days, DVI? | 20:14 |
| Azelphur | daftykins: not mine, PC I built for a friend | 20:16 |
| daftykins | ah | 20:16 |
| penguin42 | Azelphur: Was it you who go the cheap 55" ? | 20:54 |
| daftykins | it was him! | 20:54 |
| * penguin42 was curious how it worked out | 20:54 | |
| daftykins | seems pretty good on the pics he had decked out, in that it was real and shows a picture :D | 21:02 |
| penguin42 | always a bonus | 21:03 |
| daftykins | heh i was around a friends last night, they'd fallen down the usual trap of buying a cable router instead of an ADSL router | 21:03 |
| daftykins | so to use it temporarily they were having to bridge it through the existing old one, which has had wireless go quirky apparently | 21:04 |
| daftykins | nasty nasty ^_^ | 21:08 |
| daftykins | i decided to reconfigure it for them though, no need to double NAT | 21:08 |
| ali1234 | there is no reason for that to fail to work | 21:08 |
| daftykins | nah they just kept having it drop | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | if correctly configure | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | well that's wireless netwrking for you | 21:09 |
| daftykins | sure is | 21:09 |
| daftykins | give me cables any day | 21:09 |
| ali1234 | bluetooth is quite reliable even if it is slow and short range | 21:10 |
| ali1234 | if you have noisy 2.4ghz bluetooth seems to be able to sneak through when wifi + wireless keyboards can't | 21:11 |
| ali1234 | i don't know why | 21:11 |
| daftykins | well, most implementations share antennas so even having bluetooth enabled is trashing the wireless' chances | 21:13 |
| penguin42 | there was an interesting article I saw from Intel on how USB-3 can completely nuke wireless keyboard/mice unless they get the cable/socket shielding just right | 21:14 |
| daftykins | ouch! | 21:15 |
| daftykins | my first instinct would be that that could be down to USB3's higher power spec, but devices have to request that power so a USB 2.0 device wouldn't enable that | 21:15 |
| penguin42 | http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html | 21:17 |
| MartijnVdS | Yay scrollwheel doesn't work | 21:18 |
| MartijnVdS | on that page | 21:18 |
| penguin42 | there's a download pdf link | 21:18 |
| daftykins | yeah i just opened it like that, that PDF plugin is painful even on Windows | 21:20 |
| MartijnVdS | anyway.. by the logic of that paper | 21:21 |
| MartijnVdS | shouldn't it also interfere on the 5GHz wifi band? | 21:21 |
| penguin42 | no, see the graph on p.8 | 21:22 |
| MartijnVdS | where's this wireless usb/UWB at btw? I remember Intel showing it off years ago | 21:25 |
| penguin42 | never seems to have happened | 21:25 |
| daftykins | what a horrific idea | 21:26 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB | 21:26 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Why? | 21:26 |
| MartijnVdS | so you can attach your wifi dongle wirelessly! | 21:27 |
| daftykins | two of the nastiest techs together :) wireless and USB D: | 21:27 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: you prefer diesel-powered copper wires? | 21:27 |
| daftykins | very funny | 21:28 |
| daftykins | i'd go back to PS/2 for peripherals quite happily :) | 21:32 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Dunno - having something you can plug anything to is nice | 21:33 |
| daftykins | yeah, there's that | 21:33 |
| daftykins | suddenly makes sense why ultraportables have USB 3 on one side and USB2 on the other | 21:33 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: And the fact it doesn't matter which way you plug the mouse/keyboard into - wth PS/2 controllers didn't sort that out is beyond me, electrically they're the same | 21:33 |
| daftykins | and wireless antennas are often in the screen lid anyway so that's a non-issue | 21:33 |
| daftykins | indeed | 21:34 |
| daftykins | USB should work upside down :) | 21:34 |
| daftykins | have to say, Apple did well on the lightning connector being reversible | 21:34 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: I think there is a ms patent on a reversible USB plug | 21:36 |
| daftykins | heh | 21:37 |
| daftykins | i think USB 3 has stopped that being possible now anywho | 21:38 |
| penguin42 | why? | 21:39 |
| daftykins | because of the way that the USB 3 pins are stacked above the USB 2 ones, you'd have to make a very tall connector to be able to flip up and down | 21:40 |
| daftykins | that'd probably get costly on both the socket and cable side, perhaps making it prohibitive for makers | 21:40 |
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