=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [09:56] That tme when your postman says you've a small package over the intercom :priceless; but then you it from the National Sports Centre asking for your *subs* & clicks: for everything else there's a FSWheat+Bannana Bowl. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=-4.50535774230957&minlat=54.1520500183105&maxlon=-4.5037317276001&maxlat=54.153392791748 [10:22] good morning everyone, [10:28] brobostigon: \0 [10:32] morning kvarley [10:32] brobostigon: How goes it? [10:33] kvarley: crap, i hate having my personal space invaded by aliens. and you? [10:34] brobostigon: Hehe. Pretty good, just got some good code done :) [10:34] kvarley: :) [10:35] i just feel like crawling into a hole with wifi for the next week. [10:35] brobostigon: Family festiveness well and truly underway then? [10:36] kvarley: yes, and i hate it. i dont like the busy, i would rather have nice calm and quiet. [10:38] brobostigon: hehe, it'll be over soon enough [10:39] kvarley: yes, in the meantime, i will be on edge, and in total panic, [10:39] and my sleep will be disturbed etc. [12:01] Good morning peeps :) [12:04] good afternoon bigcalm_laptop [12:04] :) [12:05] Aha, life! [12:05] How are you brobostigon ? [12:06] bigcalm_laptop: could be better, i dont like aliens invading my personal space, otherwise fine, and you? [12:06] Ah, family visiting? [12:06] yes. [12:07] Heh [12:08] bigcalm_laptop: worse, if having more people around, messes with my routines, which is very disturbing. [12:20] anyone else getting spam to do with travel stuff from a different .co.uk domain each day signed off by 'Brought to you by an affiliate of Distinguished Traveller' - very difficult to spot [12:20] * penguin42 has had to add an explicit spamassassin rule for it [12:22] Not me [12:24] very annoying, they seem to be beating both spamassassin and crm114 for me === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:21] Afternoon all. [15:23] popey: Buy much this morning? [16:20] popey: And how was London? [16:27] fun [16:27] I didn't go in the end, I was outvoted [17:52] Ahoy [17:57] hey BC [17:57] yay, saw ISS [17:58] oh nice [17:58] with a telescope? [17:58] * penguin42 has seen it once with naked eye [18:04] I saw it a ocuple of weeks ago with no scope or anything [18:05] it was the brightest thing in the sky [18:06] saw an Iridium flare shortly before that too - it was hard to miss :) [18:11] it's pretty easy - very bright, and slow moving but is moving [18:31] Cool [18:31] popey: 10" touch screen works really well with RPi :) [18:32] my brother is going to be a father next august, so uncle brobostigon here i come. [18:32] yeah, we saw it with no aid [18:32] 2 things left to do: 1) get DSLR to take a photo via USB, 2) learn Python :S [18:35] bigcalm: It's interesting a lot of the cheap cameras don't seem to be able to trigger via usb, although I don't know why - maybe they can but it's not documented [18:36] penguin42: I'm hoping to be able to do it with CHDK [18:36] ch? [18:36] http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/350D [18:37] ah, posh canon [18:37] Quite old now [18:53] didn't think the 350D could run CHDK [18:53] can gphoto not trigger it? [18:53] gphoto on the 400D can shoot but not download the photo properly - but that's fine, it's on the camera's card [18:53] bigcalm: see above : [19:01] mgdm: not tried gphoto yet. Though this needs to be a fully automated process [19:02] User presses a touch screen button. DSLR takes photo. Controlling computer downloads photo from camera's memory for external storage [19:02] Oh, I know what you're doing :-) [19:02] I suspect gphoto might handle it with some massaging [19:03] without CHDK [19:06] I'll have a look, ta [19:06] Oh, and it all needs to work in a RPi ;) [19:08] oh run [19:08] oh, fun [19:08] mgdm: https://twitter.com/i/#!/bigcalm/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FcP26Iay1 [19:09] mgdm: most things work so far. As I say, it's just the DSLR and python thing to learn [19:13] I seem to be struggling to find gphoto on this system. usc says that it's installed though [19:31] bigcalm: How do you interface the chocolate buttons to the system? [19:32] penguin42: XD [19:37] daftykins: I get they fit in an SD card slot [19:37] bet [19:37] :D [19:37] nah, they're the power+reset 'buttons' ;) [19:41] definitely thinks he can be powered off chocolate buttons [19:46] * DJones has found an ipad that he wants, http://www.very.co.uk/chocolate-ipad/1157072458.prd [19:47] DJones: Do you think it has an apple filling? [19:47] Happy Holidays Everyone .. here's from inside the-amd MegaTri-Core .. [19:47] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/cooil.org.eu/Happy%20Holidays%20to%20All%20at%20the%20Ubuntu%20Podcast%20team%2C%20Open%20sourcerer%2C%20UK-L.u.g%27s%20and%20Co..PNG [19:47] (Chocolate & Apple is very rare - I've had pear chocolate, and that was really nice - but we don't seem to do chocolate and orchard fruits in the UK) [19:48] it's chocolate, but is it free? [19:48] open source chocolate? [19:48] * penguin42 prefers open chocolate sauce [19:48] ^_^ [19:49] * solarcloud saw a tin for that ! [19:50] * solarcloud is away: /me requires JuanValdez. BRBack... now for that tin ... [20:11] Fresh Ubuntu 12.10 install, unity isn't starting, ideas? [20:13] it's saving you from having to encounter it [20:13] ;) [20:13] zleap, does it work from a live cd, is your graphics hard ware good enough for unity [20:13] think I figured it old, old radeon driver with a new card :P [20:13] ^_^ [20:14] Azelphur: was it a vast improvement moving to AMD card(s)? how do you have all those screens of yours hooked up these days, DVI? [20:16] daftykins: not mine, PC I built for a friend [20:16] ah [20:54] Azelphur: Was it you who go the cheap 55" ? [20:54] it was him! [20:54] * penguin42 was curious how it worked out [21:02] seems pretty good on the pics he had decked out, in that it was real and shows a picture :D [21:03] always a bonus [21:03] heh i was around a friends last night, they'd fallen down the usual trap of buying a cable router instead of an ADSL router [21:04] so to use it temporarily they were having to bridge it through the existing old one, which has had wireless go quirky apparently [21:08] nasty nasty ^_^ [21:08] i decided to reconfigure it for them though, no need to double NAT [21:08] there is no reason for that to fail to work [21:09] nah they just kept having it drop [21:09] if correctly configure [21:09] well that's wireless netwrking for you [21:09] sure is [21:09] give me cables any day [21:10] bluetooth is quite reliable even if it is slow and short range [21:11] if you have noisy 2.4ghz bluetooth seems to be able to sneak through when wifi + wireless keyboards can't [21:11] i don't know why [21:13] well, most implementations share antennas so even having bluetooth enabled is trashing the wireless' chances [21:14] there was an interesting article I saw from Intel on how USB-3 can completely nuke wireless keyboard/mice unless they get the cable/socket shielding just right [21:15] ouch! [21:15] my first instinct would be that that could be down to USB3's higher power spec, but devices have to request that power so a USB 2.0 device wouldn't enable that [21:17] http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html [21:18] Yay scrollwheel doesn't work [21:18] on that page [21:18] there's a download pdf link [21:20] yeah i just opened it like that, that PDF plugin is painful even on Windows [21:21] anyway.. by the logic of that paper [21:21] shouldn't it also interfere on the 5GHz wifi band? [21:22] no, see the graph on p.8 [21:25] where's this wireless usb/UWB at btw? I remember Intel showing it off years ago [21:25] never seems to have happened [21:26] what a horrific idea [21:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_USB [21:26] daftykins: Why? [21:27] so you can attach your wifi dongle wirelessly! [21:27] two of the nastiest techs together :) wireless and USB D: [21:27] daftykins: you prefer diesel-powered copper wires? [21:28] very funny [21:32] i'd go back to PS/2 for peripherals quite happily :) [21:33] daftykins: Dunno - having something you can plug anything to is nice [21:33] yeah, there's that [21:33] suddenly makes sense why ultraportables have USB 3 on one side and USB2 on the other [21:33] daftykins: And the fact it doesn't matter which way you plug the mouse/keyboard into - wth PS/2 controllers didn't sort that out is beyond me, electrically they're the same [21:33] and wireless antennas are often in the screen lid anyway so that's a non-issue [21:34] indeed [21:34] USB should work upside down :) [21:34] have to say, Apple did well on the lightning connector being reversible [21:36] daftykins: I think there is a ms patent on a reversible USB plug [21:37] heh [21:38] i think USB 3 has stopped that being possible now anywho [21:39] why? [21:40] because of the way that the USB 3 pins are stacked above the USB 2 ones, you'd have to make a very tall connector to be able to flip up and down [21:40] that'd probably get costly on both the socket and cable side, perhaps making it prohibitive for makers