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penguin42 | it's a shame there doesn't seem to be a way to link sourceforge bug reports into launchpad | 16:02 |
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TheLordOfTime | how so? | 16:04 |
TheLordOfTime | penguin42, if there's an upstream tracker i think it can be linked? | 16:04 |
TheLordOfTime | if the upstream project is set to use external stuff | 16:04 |
TheLordOfTime | and then you provide a link... | 16:04 |
TheLordOfTime | no? | 16:04 |
penguin42 | but if there is no upstream project in lp, if it's just a bug in an ubuntu package for which the upstream is in sf? | 16:07 |
TheLordOfTime | good question. | 16:07 |
TheLordOfTime | i'd just link "upstream"'s bug as a comment | 16:07 |
TheLordOfTime | so its somewhere in the bug it was upstreamed. | 16:08 |
TheLordOfTime | but... that's if it doesn't exist in LP | 16:08 |
penguin42 | yeh, I'm just going through universe type things that haven't seen any updates in years, some of them have sourceforge projects with bug trackers | 16:09 |
TheLordOfTime | penguin42, were they synced form Debian? | 16:10 |
TheLordOfTime | from* | 16:10 |
TheLordOfTime | i know of a few upstream projects that only listen to the Debian BTS and don't bother chekcing Ubuntu's | 16:10 |
penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: Yeh, although I think in a lot of these cases the upstreams are pretty much dead | 16:11 |
TheLordOfTime | which package if I might ask? | 16:11 |
penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: bug 376859 | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | (I know there's one package, display-dhammapadda, of which i'm apparently their go-to bugcontroller, which was recently taken over by someone, and its upstream tracks debian, LP, and fedora) | 16:12 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 376859 in cccc (Ubuntu) "CCCC crashed on AMD64" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376859 | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | penguin42, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cccc | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | there's changes to the package over time... | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | albeit minor changes... | 16:12 |
penguin42 | and looks like Colin has created an upstream bug for it, 3 years ago https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2880497&group_id=7763&atid=107763 | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | ah okay. | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | if upstream's dead, well... | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | then upstream's dead :P | 16:12 |
TheLordOfTime | was this imported/checked from Debian? | 16:13 |
TheLordOfTime | yep, they're all debian imports | 16:13 |
penguin42 | but I've got a small collection of others as well | 16:13 |
TheLordOfTime | wonder if this is reported there. | 16:13 |
penguin42 | didn't see this one reported in debian | 16:14 |
TheLordOfTime | may want to consider reporting it there. | 16:14 |
TheLordOfTime | (just so debian's aware the bug exists) | 16:14 |
TheLordOfTime | since it appears these're debian imports, so a fix'd hit Debian before it hits Ubuntu. | 16:14 |
TheLordOfTime | but... | 16:14 |
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TheLordOfTime | bleh, i need more coffee. | 16:14 |
penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: It looks like Colin is the maintainer for the package anyway, but hey Erwan put a bug in there 3.5 years ago - it seems a shame not to merge it | 16:15 |
TheLordOfTime | mhm | 16:15 |
TheLordOfTime | penguin42, any idea how widely used this is? | 16:15 |
TheLordOfTime | if upstream's dead, well... | 16:15 |
penguin42 | nope, no idea | 16:16 |
TheLordOfTime | "C and C++ Code Counter, a software metrics tool" | 16:16 |
penguin42 | nod | 16:16 |
penguin42 | I've been doing a bunch of universe fixes for crashers lately - but then I started looking at the patch queue, there's about 1500 bugs with patches that aren't going anywhere | 16:17 |
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garyseven | Could someone explain to me why bug #225732, a kernel null-ptr dereference resulting in system crash, is only assigned 'medium' priority? | 23:37 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 225732 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff88087eee2ff8 RIP:; RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883b0080>] [<ffffffff883b0080>] :cpufreq_stats:cpufreq_stats_update+0x40/0x70" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225732 | 23:37 |
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garyseven | aiee, i meant bug #1089794 | 23:38 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1089794 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel null pointer dereference on dell pe r210s" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1089794 | 23:38 |
penguin42 | oh an ancient one as well | 23:38 |
penguin42 | oh | 23:39 |
penguin42 | garyseven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance are the guidelines, I personally would have set as a High, but Joseph owns a lot of the kernel stuff so I'll bow to his judgement | 23:42 |
garyseven | yeah, i read that. i thought that it should be high, as well, as it "Renders essential features or functionality of the application or dependencies broken or ineffective" | 23:44 |
garyseven | or possibly critical, in that it "Crashes the entire operating system" | 23:44 |
penguin42 | nod, or I would have quoted the has a severe impact.... | 23:44 |
penguin42 | garyseven: The problem to some degree is that every oops ends up being a critical if you aren't careful, so you then don't end up separating the 'oopses for a small number of people/rare occasions' from the oopses for most people | 23:46 |
garyseven | I don't understand. This bug would affect *all* people running a similar configuration on identical hardware. I can reproduce it on over a dozen servers. | 23:50 |
garyseven | It is a show-stopper, in that it renders the systems completely unusable. | 23:50 |
garyseven | The only real reason more people aren't affected is that it doesn't exist upstream, or in Precise. | 23:51 |
penguin42 | garyseven: ok, but you agree that say a bug that nuked the installation should be higher, or one that happened for most users should be higher? | 23:51 |
garyseven | Not really. I don't see the benefit of being able to complete an installation only to boot into an unsusable system. | 23:52 |
penguin42 | garyseven: Most people using Quantal aren't hitting that oops | 23:52 |
garyseven | And I suspect that the only reason more users aren't affected is because most users only take LTS releases. But I'd really not have to wait until 14.04 to see this fixed. | 23:52 |
penguin42 | garyseven: I realise for you that doesn't help, but I'm just saying in the scale of things there are worse bugs out there that affect more people | 23:53 |
penguin42 | garyseven: Looking at the logs, can I ask, are you using Xen? | 23:53 |
garyseven | Yah. | 23:53 |
penguin42 | garyseven: Certainly the 2nd part of the oops looks xen specific, so probably only a small proportion of users use xen and thus hit it; it's a bit harder to tell whether the first part is due to xen | 23:54 |
garyseven | I've only seen it happen under xen. But, it's still a kernel oops, Xen remains up and responsive during and after. | 23:55 |
penguin42 | garyseven: Anyway, so given you've found a version that it works on, what Joseph will probably ask you to do is to try a few kernel versions in between to see which one fixed/broke it | 23:59 |
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