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penguin42it's a shame there doesn't seem to be a way to link sourceforge bug reports into launchpad16:02
TheLordOfTimehow so?16:04
TheLordOfTimepenguin42, if there's an upstream tracker i think it can be linked?16:04
TheLordOfTimeif the upstream project is set to use external stuff16:04
TheLordOfTimeand then you provide a link...16:04
TheLordOfTimeno?16:04
penguin42but if there is no upstream project in lp, if it's just a bug in an ubuntu package for which the upstream is in sf?16:07
TheLordOfTimegood question.16:07
TheLordOfTimei'd just link "upstream"'s bug as a comment16:07
TheLordOfTimeso its somewhere in the bug it was upstreamed.16:08
TheLordOfTimebut... that's if it doesn't exist in LP16:08
penguin42yeh, I'm just going through universe type things that haven't seen any updates in years, some of them have sourceforge projects with bug trackers16:09
TheLordOfTimepenguin42, were they synced form Debian?16:10
TheLordOfTimefrom*16:10
TheLordOfTimei know of a few upstream projects that only listen to the Debian BTS and don't bother chekcing Ubuntu's16:10
penguin42TheLordOfTime: Yeh, although I think in a lot of these cases the upstreams are pretty much dead16:11
TheLordOfTimewhich package if I might ask?16:11
penguin42TheLordOfTime: bug 37685916:12
TheLordOfTime(I know there's one package, display-dhammapadda, of which i'm apparently their go-to bugcontroller, which was recently taken over by someone, and its upstream tracks debian, LP, and fedora)16:12
ubot2`Launchpad bug 376859 in cccc (Ubuntu) "CCCC crashed on AMD64" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37685916:12
TheLordOfTimepenguin42, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cccc16:12
TheLordOfTimethere's changes to the package over time...16:12
TheLordOfTimealbeit minor changes...16:12
penguin42and looks like Colin has created an upstream bug for it, 3 years ago https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2880497&group_id=7763&atid=10776316:12
TheLordOfTimeah okay.16:12
TheLordOfTimeif upstream's dead, well...16:12
TheLordOfTimethen upstream's dead :P16:12
TheLordOfTimewas this imported/checked from Debian?16:13
TheLordOfTimeyep, they're all debian imports16:13
penguin42but I've got a small collection of others as well16:13
TheLordOfTimewonder if this is reported there.16:13
penguin42didn't see this one reported in debian16:14
TheLordOfTimemay want to consider reporting it there.16:14
TheLordOfTime(just so debian's aware the bug exists)16:14
TheLordOfTimesince it appears these're debian imports, so a fix'd hit Debian before it hits Ubuntu.16:14
TheLordOfTimebut...16:14
* TheLordOfTime yawns16:14
TheLordOfTimebleh, i need more  coffee.16:14
penguin42TheLordOfTime: It looks like Colin is the maintainer for the package anyway, but hey Erwan put a bug in there 3.5 years ago - it seems a shame not to merge it16:15
TheLordOfTimemhm16:15
TheLordOfTimepenguin42, any idea how widely used this is?16:15
TheLordOfTimeif upstream's dead, well...16:15
penguin42nope, no idea16:16
TheLordOfTime"C and C++ Code Counter, a software metrics tool"16:16
penguin42nod16:16
penguin42I've been doing a bunch of universe fixes for crashers lately - but then I started looking at the patch queue, there's about 1500 bugs with patches that aren't going anywhere16:17
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garysevenCould someone explain to me why bug #225732, a kernel null-ptr dereference resulting in system crash, is only assigned 'medium' priority?23:37
ubot2`Launchpad bug 225732 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff88087eee2ff8 RIP:; RIP: e030:[<ffffffff883b0080>] [<ffffffff883b0080>] :cpufreq_stats:cpufreq_stats_update+0x40/0x70" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22573223:37
* penguin42 looks 23:38
garysevenaiee, i meant bug #108979423:38
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1089794 in linux (Ubuntu) "kernel null pointer dereference on dell pe r210s" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108979423:38
penguin42oh an ancient one as well23:38
penguin42oh23:39
penguin42garyseven: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance are the guidelines, I personally would have set as a High, but Joseph owns a lot of the kernel stuff so I'll bow to his judgement23:42
garysevenyeah, i read that. i thought that it should be high, as well, as it "Renders essential features or functionality of the application or dependencies broken or ineffective"23:44
garysevenor possibly critical, in that it "Crashes the entire operating system"23:44
penguin42nod, or I would have quoted the has a severe impact....23:44
penguin42garyseven: The problem to some degree is that every oops ends up being a critical if you aren't careful, so you then don't end up separating the 'oopses for a small number of people/rare occasions' from the oopses for most people23:46
garysevenI don't understand. This bug would affect *all* people running a similar configuration on identical hardware. I can reproduce it on over a dozen servers.23:50
garysevenIt is a show-stopper, in that it renders the systems completely unusable.23:50
garysevenThe only real reason more people aren't affected is that it doesn't exist upstream, or in Precise.23:51
penguin42garyseven: ok, but you agree that say a bug that nuked the installation should be higher, or one that happened for most users should be higher?23:51
garysevenNot really. I don't see the benefit of being able to complete an installation only to boot into an unsusable system.23:52
penguin42garyseven: Most people using Quantal aren't hitting that oops23:52
garysevenAnd I suspect that the only reason more users aren't affected is because most users only take LTS releases. But I'd really not have to wait until 14.04 to see this fixed.23:52
penguin42garyseven: I realise for you that doesn't help, but I'm just saying in the scale of things there are worse bugs out there that affect more people23:53
penguin42garyseven: Looking at the logs, can I ask, are you using Xen?23:53
garysevenYah.23:53
penguin42garyseven: Certainly the 2nd part of the oops looks xen specific, so probably only a small proportion of users use xen and thus hit it; it's a bit harder to tell whether the first part is due to xen23:54
garysevenI've only seen it happen under xen. But, it's still a kernel oops, Xen remains up and responsive during and after.23:55
penguin42garyseven: Anyway, so given you've found a version that it works on, what Joseph will probably ask you to do is to try a few kernel versions in between to see which one fixed/broke it23:59

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