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| cjwatson | blami: it's also not unusual to create snapshot tarballs; I believe/suspect that git-buildpackage can help with that | 02:12 |
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| Bluefoxicy | i just cannot figure tasksel out. | 02:16 |
| Bluefoxicy | I mean look at the entry for openssh-server in /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc | 02:16 |
| cjwatson | sure, people asked for that 'cos it was handy | 02:17 |
| Bluefoxicy | Same thing except Task: puppet, Description: Puppet configuration agent, Key: puppet, and it ... does nothing. The option shows up, but it doesn't actually do anything. | 02:17 |
| Bluefoxicy | changed Package: task-fields to Package: puppet and it works, except gives errors before installing the appropriate package, because it expects another file at /usr/lib/tasksel/packages/puppet | 02:18 |
| cjwatson | which is probably because you don't have any packages with Task: puppet in your Packages files | 02:18 |
| Bluefoxicy | ah | 02:18 |
| cjwatson | pretty sure this is documented in tasksel's readme | 02:18 |
| Bluefoxicy | so this requires modifying the repository as well | 02:18 |
| Bluefoxicy | http://fts.ifac.cnr.it/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/tasksel/README.gz here somewhere? | 02:19 |
| cjwatson | well, if you want to use task-fields, but you don't have to | 02:19 |
| Bluefoxicy | I probably missed it when I read through | 02:19 |
| cjwatson | dunno, not going to look now to see if that's vaguely current | 02:19 |
| Bluefoxicy | no problem, at least I've got vaguely a better understanding now. | 02:19 |
| Bluefoxicy | Also, any chance of getting puppet and/or chef promoted to main any time soon? | 02:20 |
| cjwatson | you want "Packages: list", probably, for which therea's an example near the top of the readme. | 02:20 |
| cjwatson | no idea about that; not something I care about. | 02:20 |
| Bluefoxicy | heh I have a dozen servers to administrate in an enterprise environment </buzzwords>; it's something *I* care about. | 02:21 |
| Bluefoxicy | Who in the hell thought up the word "enterprise" anyway? | 02:21 |
| * Bluefoxicy tries to find the release roadmap for 13.04, and finds Google results like "Ubuntu already scoping out an April release date..." ... uh... it's a 6 month release cycle, always has been, what's special about this? | 02:25 | |
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| micahg | Bluefoxicy: puppet is in main | 04:14 |
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| Bluefoxicy | micahg: .... how does this keep happening to me? | 04:20 |
| micahg | Bluefoxicy: rmadison puppet :) | 04:20 |
| Bluefoxicy | that's like the fifth time I've looked at a package, wondered why it's not main, posted to the mailing list, and someone tells me it is indeed in main. | 04:20 |
| Bluefoxicy | and I look and it is indeed | 04:21 |
| Bluefoxicy | well then I am going to go post "I am an idiot. Can we have a tasksel too?" | 04:21 |
| * micahg doesn't know how those work offhand | 04:23 | |
| * Bluefoxicy already wrote one | 04:23 | |
| Bluefoxicy | http://pastebin.com/6Xqz2KLt This works. I don't know what "Relevance" does. | 04:26 |
| Bluefoxicy | huh. | 04:30 |
| Bluefoxicy | apt puts the proxy stuff in /etc/apt/apt.conf instead of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy | 04:30 |
| * Bluefoxicy punched in proxy information for his apt-cacher server at the installation prompt on the mini install CD. | 04:30 | |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: Having tasks for single packages seems silly. | 05:22 |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: (And before you quote openssh-server as a precedent, note that that's a pretty rare/special case in that it's installed on 99% of servers, but we don't install services by default, so that was the compromise... puppet's nowhere near as ubiquitous) | 05:23 |
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| cjwatson | Bluefoxicy: pkgsel/include=puppet would probably be way less effort | 09:28 |
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| Bluefoxicy | infinity: true, i'm not sure the purpose of specifying something in tasksel though. There's an openssh server task. | 10:30 |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: Like I said, openssh is a bit of a special case to make it more prominent in the installer, that's all. | 10:44 |
| Bluefoxicy | I thought the purpose was to advertise different types of servers that Ubuntu can be, kind of like the Roles installer in Windows 2008 Server | 10:45 |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: It was a compromise between "we don't install network services by default" and "everyone expects a server to have SSH running", so people would see it listed right at the top and install it if they needed it. | 10:45 |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: The OTHER tasks are for what you say, yes. But they're larger tasks, not just single packages. | 10:46 |
| Bluefoxicy | well, having run CentOS/RHEL/Fedora, I can get on board with that | 10:46 |
| Bluefoxicy | god damn six billion things load at boot and you have a thousand ports open, this is an "enterprise" OS??? | 10:46 |
| infinity | tjaalton: No dice on the Vt-d BIOS disabling. Just got the lockup again. :/ | 10:47 |
| Bluefoxicy | also it's not right at the top anymore I think | 10:47 |
| infinity | tjaalton: In the new year, you might need to hand-hold me through some useful debugging for you, if you can't manage to reproduce this, cause it's pretty glaringly unfriendly behaviour for people who aren't me. | 10:47 |
| Bluefoxicy | tasksel seems to sort alphabetically | 10:47 |
| infinity | Bluefoxicy: Oh, that may be so. It's been a while since I've actually looked at that dialog for more than a split second. | 10:48 |
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