=== cpg is now known as cpg|away [02:12] blami: it's also not unusual to create snapshot tarballs; I believe/suspect that git-buildpackage can help with that [02:16] i just cannot figure tasksel out. [02:16] I mean look at the entry for openssh-server in /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc [02:17] sure, people asked for that 'cos it was handy [02:17] Same thing except Task: puppet, Description: Puppet configuration agent, Key: puppet, and it ... does nothing. The option shows up, but it doesn't actually do anything. [02:18] changed Package: task-fields to Package: puppet and it works, except gives errors before installing the appropriate package, because it expects another file at /usr/lib/tasksel/packages/puppet [02:18] which is probably because you don't have any packages with Task: puppet in your Packages files [02:18] ah [02:18] pretty sure this is documented in tasksel's readme [02:18] so this requires modifying the repository as well [02:19] http://fts.ifac.cnr.it/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/doc/tasksel/README.gz here somewhere? [02:19] well, if you want to use task-fields, but you don't have to [02:19] I probably missed it when I read through [02:19] dunno, not going to look now to see if that's vaguely current [02:19] no problem, at least I've got vaguely a better understanding now. [02:20] Also, any chance of getting puppet and/or chef promoted to main any time soon? [02:20] you want "Packages: list", probably, for which therea's an example near the top of the readme. [02:20] no idea about that; not something I care about. [02:21] heh I have a dozen servers to administrate in an enterprise environment ; it's something *I* care about. [02:21] Who in the hell thought up the word "enterprise" anyway? [02:25] * Bluefoxicy tries to find the release roadmap for 13.04, and finds Google results like "Ubuntu already scoping out an April release date..." ... uh... it's a 6 month release cycle, always has been, what's special about this? === cpg|away is now known as cpg [04:14] Bluefoxicy: puppet is in main === cpg is now known as cpg|away === fisted is now known as fistmas [04:20] micahg: .... how does this keep happening to me? [04:20] Bluefoxicy: rmadison puppet :) [04:20] that's like the fifth time I've looked at a package, wondered why it's not main, posted to the mailing list, and someone tells me it is indeed in main. [04:21] and I look and it is indeed [04:21] well then I am going to go post "I am an idiot. Can we have a tasksel too?" [04:23] * micahg doesn't know how those work offhand [04:23] * Bluefoxicy already wrote one [04:26] http://pastebin.com/6Xqz2KLt This works. I don't know what "Relevance" does. [04:30] huh. [04:30] apt puts the proxy stuff in /etc/apt/apt.conf instead of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy [04:30] * Bluefoxicy punched in proxy information for his apt-cacher server at the installation prompt on the mini install CD. [05:22] Bluefoxicy: Having tasks for single packages seems silly. [05:23] Bluefoxicy: (And before you quote openssh-server as a precedent, note that that's a pretty rare/special case in that it's installed on 99% of servers, but we don't install services by default, so that was the compromise... puppet's nowhere near as ubiquitous) === cpg|away is now known as cpg [09:28] Bluefoxicy: pkgsel/include=puppet would probably be way less effort === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [10:30] infinity: true, i'm not sure the purpose of specifying something in tasksel though. There's an openssh server task. [10:44] Bluefoxicy: Like I said, openssh is a bit of a special case to make it more prominent in the installer, that's all. [10:45] I thought the purpose was to advertise different types of servers that Ubuntu can be, kind of like the Roles installer in Windows 2008 Server [10:45] Bluefoxicy: It was a compromise between "we don't install network services by default" and "everyone expects a server to have SSH running", so people would see it listed right at the top and install it if they needed it. [10:46] Bluefoxicy: The OTHER tasks are for what you say, yes. But they're larger tasks, not just single packages. [10:46] well, having run CentOS/RHEL/Fedora, I can get on board with that [10:46] god damn six billion things load at boot and you have a thousand ports open, this is an "enterprise" OS??? [10:47] tjaalton: No dice on the Vt-d BIOS disabling. Just got the lockup again. :/ [10:47] also it's not right at the top anymore I think [10:47] tjaalton: In the new year, you might need to hand-hold me through some useful debugging for you, if you can't manage to reproduce this, cause it's pretty glaringly unfriendly behaviour for people who aren't me. [10:47] tasksel seems to sort alphabetically [10:48] Bluefoxicy: Oh, that may be so. 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