[00:05] <bigcalm> mgdm: gphoto2 --filename foo1.jpg --capture-image-and-download
[00:05] <bigcalm> mgdm: works perfectly :D
[00:41] <daftykins> happy christmas to any and all who are awake o/
[00:42] <penguin42> hey daftykins
[00:47] <daftykins> \o
[00:48] <daftykins> just been playing with some data recovery for a friend
[00:48] <daftykins> clickety click goes the click of death :D
[00:59] <penguin42> oh dear, what drive?
[00:59] <daftykins> an ancient 40GB PATA WD :)
[00:59] <daftykins> it would've been in storage for years doing nothing
[01:00] <penguin42> ah right, sometimes they just plain seize up
[01:00] <daftykins> ja
[01:00] <daftykins> another is a laptop form factor SATA 250GB, from an ancient laptop of my friends
[01:01] <penguin42> if it's a 250GB it can't be *that* ancient
[01:01] <daftykins> it totally freezes my OS when connected so i started playing with a DOS mode program
[01:01] <daftykins> in hardware terms i consider it ancient :)
[01:01]  * penguin42 tosses his 64MB 5.25" FH ST506 drive at daftykins
[01:01] <daftykins> :)
[01:02] <penguin42> a 250GB SATA should be able to give you SMART data and logs etc
[01:02] <daftykins> yeah
[01:03] <daftykins> i'll give it another go at some point, the program i used didn't like my desktop's BIOS
[01:03] <daftykins> possibly due to the SATA port mode, which i didn't think of at the time
[01:03] <penguin42> what does Linux make of it?
[01:03] <daftykins> didn't even try
[01:03] <daftykins> i'd imagine it'll just stream many errors in the logs :>
[01:04] <penguin42> there is a modified dd somewhere that can skip badblocks
[01:05] <daftykins> ja dd-rescue
[01:06] <penguin42> that plus smartctl is a good start, although I'd probably try it on a minimal linux, you don't want anything trying to mount it or anything
[01:07] <daftykins> yeah, would be nice to image it up first
[01:40]  * penguin42 wonders if it's possible to get Amazon to give you the intersection of it's recommendations for you and a price limit
[01:42] <daftykins> penguin42: as in, show you your recommendations with an upper bound?
[01:42] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh, show me stuff that matches my recommendations and is dirt cheap
[01:43] <daftykins> :D
[02:17] <penguin42> 'Far Cry 3 (Xbox 360)     Because you purchased.... Vax S6 Home Master Steam Cleaner'
[02:20] <daftykins> O_O
[02:20] <daftykins> that's a good one :>
[02:22] <penguin42> daftykins: I like the way Amazon lets you tell it that you're not interested, but it won't let you say why
[02:22] <daftykins> :>
[02:22] <daftykins> i spent a fair few minutes on that once saying "own this, don't want that, blah blah..."
[02:25] <penguin42> right, so it can say because you own it, but they don't have a way of saying 'it's just a bad connection with the other item' or 'I'm not interested in bluray'
[02:25] <daftykins> idd
[02:34] <ali1234> is anyone's TV broken?
[02:34] <ali1234> i can'tpick up any channels at all on freeview
[02:35] <ali1234> and i've tried 4 different tuners
[02:35] <ali1234> so eithermy aeriel is broken or it's the transmitter
[02:36] <dwatkins> ali1234: tried http://tvcatchup.com/ ?
[02:36] <ali1234> no
[02:37] <penguin42> ali1234: Tis OK here; Winter Hill transmitter
[02:37] <ali1234> i'm not sure what tx i am on but it is either nottingham or sutton coldfield
[02:38] <daftykins> ITV was doing funny things earlier today when my parents were watching TV
[02:38] <ali1234> dvb-apps initial scanning files are so out of date it's not even funny
[02:38] <daftykins> lots of blank black screens for some time
[02:38] <ali1234> i have absolutely no signal at all for the past hour or so
[02:39] <daftykins> impressive
[02:39] <ali1234> i'm guessing someone is going to have a fun day climbing a transmitter on christmas
[02:39] <ali1234> either that or squirrels have chewed through my aerial cable
[02:39] <daftykins> at least TV is dire so you're not missing anything :>
[02:39] <dwatkins> how to climb a transmission tower: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbEqnLjHyf8
[02:39] <ali1234> i know right but i wanted to record lord of the rings
[02:40] <daftykins> record ;x
[02:40] <penguin42> ali1234: https://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/templates/bbcfaqs/emailstatic/interferencePage
[02:40] <daftykins> srs?
[02:40] <ali1234> yes i record films off tv because it's easier than pirating them
[02:41] <ali1234> penguin42: yeah it says no problems
[02:41] <daftykins> go lurking for neighbour TV sounds :>
[02:41] <penguin42> ali1234: I bet it's that clumsy santa knocking your aerial
[02:41] <ali1234> i really don't see how it can be my aerial
[02:42] <penguin42> why?
[02:42] <ali1234> because i would have heard a noise
[02:42] <penguin42> why?
[02:42] <ali1234> i mean it was literally working one minute and then dead the next
[02:42] <ali1234> and the aerial is attached to the wall right outside the room i am in
[02:43] <penguin42> hmm, could be a busted lead
[02:43] <ali1234> i have tried several different one
[02:43] <ali1234> three tuners
[02:43] <ali1234> and a STB
[02:43] <ali1234> it's not the lead or equipment
[02:43] <penguin42> I meant the lead from the aerial
[02:43] <ali1234> well
[02:44] <ali1234> it's not raining, snowing, windy or anything here
[02:44] <penguin42> nod
[02:44] <ali1234> and the lead has worked fine for 15 years
[02:44] <ali1234> so it's picked a funny time to break
[02:44] <penguin42> ali1234: I think that's what they said about the o-rings
[02:44] <dwatkins> some cowboy went up on our roof fitting an aerial (block of flats) and dislodged some tiles, apparently.
[02:45] <ali1234> if only they still had analogue tx
[02:45] <ali1234> you can tell when that is working or not
[02:47] <dwatkins> yeah, a poor signal will give you an indication of the signal strength and you can still see/hear something
[02:51] <dwatkins> seems Netflix is down in the US, too.
[02:52] <daftykins> lawl
[02:52] <daftykins> just in time for holiday surprises
[02:53] <dwatkins> “We continue to work on resolving issues with the Elastic Load Balancing Service in the US-EAST-1 region. Traffic for some ELBs are currently experiencing significant levels of traffic loss.”
[02:53] <penguin42> and this is why I wish sysadmins a 'Quiet and uneventful christmas and new year'
[02:54] <dwatkins> I'm glad I'm not working today.
[02:57] <daftykins> eh it's no biggy if you've no family
[02:58] <dwatkins> true, I just like having a day off ;)
[02:58] <dwatkins> I was on call this weekend, too.
[02:58] <daftykins> =[
[02:59] <dwatkins> thankfully it wasn't busy
[02:59] <daftykins> \o/
[05:07] <daftykins> ali1234: any change in the state of play?
[08:58] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:58] <AlanBell> happy christmas/festivus/winterval
[08:58] <brobostigon> happy christmas everyone.
[08:58] <brobostigon> morning AlanBell
[09:00] <SuperEngineer> & a happy whatsits to you all as well
[09:00] <shauno> happy whatsits all round :)
[09:01] <solarcloud> Morning Sakamoto .. http://open.spotify.com/track/17oLsEzzlGFlrBKViCzmGc
[09:01] <brobostigon> :)
[09:03] <daftykins> libations for everybody \o
[12:28]  * penguin42 jingles to all
[12:29] <dwatkins> merry Tuesday :)
[12:33] <penguin42> indeed, a very merry Tuesday it is
[20:35] <DJones> Does anybody know anywhere selling cheap external USB 2 external hdd's? Currently looking for something that beats this deal http://www.maplin.co.uk/750gb-core-external-desktop-usb-2.0-hard-drive-682549
[20:35] <MartijnVdS> DJones: beware that cheap = fails fast
[20:36] <DJones> Yeah, something I'm wary of, reviews of that model seem quite good though
[20:51] <penguin42> does say it's a grade-b - whatever that means
[21:01] <dwatkins> I bought a 3 TB USB disk, it had been dropped by the courier. Unsurprisingly, it didn't work.
[21:01] <dwatkins> B-grade can mean any number of things, unfortunately.
[21:02] <penguin42> yeh
[21:39] <DJones> Could just be old stock as well and replaced by a newer model
[21:39] <DJones> None of the branches are holding stock
[21:40] <penguin42> DJones: The other thing to do is get a USB<->sata cable and a drive
[21:43] <DJones> They seem to work out more expensive when you add in the cable, plus they're not as neat
[21:45] <penguin42> yep
[22:19] <dwatkins> I tend to buy enclosures, as I replace drives in laptops occasionally, so have smaller capacity ones spare.