[01:25] <florian> is here somebody who can speak german and help me?
[02:03] <xubuntu388> Hullo, I recently installed xubuntu 10.0.4 and am wondering if there is a way to make it so my password is not required each time I open the package manager. Thanks
[04:06] <xellos> I built a pc and it's pretty decked out. I was told not to run Xubuntu because it is "slow" is this true? I really like XFCE interface and I would prefer to have that without compromising speed. So was the report inaccurate or correct?
[04:08] <pleia2> "slow" isn't exactly a scientific measurement :)
[04:08] <pleia2> it runs great on my netbook, 1.6ghz w/ 1G of ram
[04:08] <pleia2> so I can't imagine it would be slow on a machine that's "pretty decked out"
[04:09] <pleia2> but I guess it depends on what you're comparing it to, lubuntu is faster, ubuntu and kubuntu are slower
[04:09] <Unit193> AntiX and SliTaz are also so much faster, but this is a "complete desktop"
[04:10] <xellos> I see. I have just only heard of people using Xubuntu to save old computers I don't see much about how it functions on the not old devices.
[04:11] <pleia2> I use it on my fastest computer ;)
[04:12] <rywilly> hello
[04:12] <pleia2> it's not built for slower computers, it stays out of your way resource-wise so you can use those 16G of RAM to process images rather than draw windows :)
[04:12] <rywilly> i just tried xubuntu for the first time :)
[04:12] <pleia2> welcome rywilly
[04:12] <rywilly> i used Fedora and openSUSE a few years ago.
[04:13] <xellos> Well thanks for the support.
[04:13] <pleia2> xellos: sure, good luck :)
[04:13] <Unit193> xellos: Try a live CD, see for yourself before installing.
[04:13] <pleia2> liveCDs are slow :P
[04:13] <pleia2> if you want a speed test, that's really not the way to go
[04:14] <Unit193> True, gives an idea though, and toram should. :D
[04:15] <rywilly> this computer has a AMD A10-5800K APU and a 60GB SSD. It's FAST! Literally boots up in a couple seconds and logs in almost instantly.
[04:15] <rywilly> anything i do in xfce responds instantly
[04:17] <ForCom5> Greetings Xubuntu!
[04:17] <rywilly> hello
[04:18] <ForCom5> Just unbricked my laptop thanks to Linux! I, am one happy clam.
[04:46] <usr13> bug#867806
[04:46] <usr13> bug 867806
[06:18] <rywilly> i need to by a hard drive for my new computer, any suggestions on which brand/model?
[06:19] <rywilly> i have a 60GB SSD for the OS, but i want a 500GB-1TB drive for mass storage
[06:20] <rywilly> SATA III 7200rpm is what i want, but not sure which models are the most reliable
[06:20] <onlyHuman> seagate black label
[06:23] <rywilly> what's black label? i've heard of Seagate Barracuda
[06:32] <onlyHuman> the barracuda has diff versions. red / green / blue / black
[06:33] <onlyHuman> get the one with the black dot (NOT green dot)
[06:33] <bourbo> I'm trying to install Xubuntu and I'm having big problems with the open source nVidia drivers with my GeForce 6150. Is there any to install the proprietary nVidia drivers WHILE installing Xubuntu so I can bypass the open source drivers altogether?
[06:35] <onlyHuman> i dont believe you can in 12.10
[06:35] <onlyHuman> 12.04 yes
[06:36] <bourbo> How was it possible under 12.04? What changed?
[06:36] <onlyHuman> they moved the Additional Drivers to the software updater
[06:37] <onlyHuman> (moved in 12.10)
[06:38] <bourbo> I see. The screen corruption makes it impossible to see what I'm doing. Is there a way to modify the ISO to install the driver, or do you think that would be nontrivial?
[06:38] <onlyHuman> you sure you can. but youll have to wait for some one with more experiance than i
[06:39] <bourbo> I've got three graphics options and all three are giving me grief under Linux. It's frustrating.
[06:39] <onlyHuman> have you tried in #nvidia
[06:39] <onlyHuman> ?
[06:40] <bourbo> Not yet. I figured it was more an install workaround since the open source driver bug is known and not yet solved.
[06:40] <onlyHuman> dead there this time any way
[06:41] <rywilly> onlyHuman, i see, thanks for the info
[06:43] <bourbo> Another question.
[06:43] <bourbo> Is there a way to "automate" installing Additional Drivers and then installing the proprietary driver via script? Perhaps I can do it in a text mode shell.
[06:45] <onlyHuman> && between commands is how i batch script
[06:46] <onlyHuman> sudo apt-get install blahblah && sudo apt-get install blah-whatever && bash lalala.sh
[06:47] <onlyHuman> but if you cant see what is going on you may need to modify the sudoers folder to avoid typing the passcode
[06:48] <rywilly> does this seem like a good drive? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148756
[06:48] <rywilly> it has a 5 year warranty
[06:50] <onlyHuman> its not the worlds greatest but it has a decent track record
[06:51] <onlyHuman> will work great considering you are pairing it with an SSD
[06:55] <onlyHuman> just remember, it will spin down from inactivity causing momentary system lock-up.
[06:57] <rywilly> onlyHuman, i was thinking it would be good for it to spin down, because it may not be accessed very often
[06:58] <rywilly> i have alot of audio files, pictures, and other projects that i may only look at occasionally
[06:58] <onlyHuman> yeah just wanted to remind you. people often forget after having an SSD for a while
[06:59] <rywilly> any active projects, i figure i could copy to the SSD for editing
[06:59] <rywilly> heh, yeah SSD is a new concept for me...
[07:00] <rywilly> i wasn't sure about getting one, but i decided to try it. It's an Intel, not sure what model, but it's supposed to be one of the faster onces
[07:00] <onlyHuman> i would advise moving /tmp to ram to extend the life
[07:01] <rywilly> oh...i was wondering about that
[07:01] <rywilly> i have 8GB of RAM
[07:02] <onlyHuman> http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html
[07:03]  * rywilly looks
[07:04] <rywilly> i'm familiar with how linux works, generally speaking, i've used it a few times over the last 10 years,
[07:04] <rywilly> but i constantly have to search the internet for how to do this or that in the command console
[07:05] <rywilly> err terminal
[07:05] <rywilly> i really want to get away from paying ~$130 for windows
[07:07] <onlyHuman> my fist broke my hard drive while giving server 2012 a test drive  :(
[07:08] <rywilly> bummer :( i'v only had 2 hard drive failures in my life, one in the '90s (a 40MB hd, lol) and the second one about 8 years ago, but then after sitting for a year, i was able to copy files off of it one last time
[07:14] <onlyHuman> i've had tons fail. most were toshiba, fujitsu or WD
[07:14] <rywilly> oh
[07:14] <rywilly> funny, i've heard people say to stay away from seagate and only go with WD, lol
[07:15] <rywilly> i think it depends on the model more than the brand, probably
[07:16] <onlyHuman> lots of ppl are mad that seagate incorperated in the caymen islands to avoid taxes
[07:16] <rywilly> i have a samsung 500GB that hasn't had any problems after a couple years
[07:16] <rywilly> oh
[07:17] <onlyHuman> seagate got a clue and bought Solyndra's old headquaters and started paying taxes again
[07:18] <rywilly> o
[07:19] <rywilly> well...i guess i can't watch netflix while downloading a torrent, hehe
[07:46] <rywilly> i wish xfce had a better "File Operation Process" dialog :-/ I always thought a file transfer job should show a complete list of what it is going to do, and what it has done, and what over-write options are selected, and success/error status of everything so i can walk away knowing it won't ask me a question 30 minutes later and sit there doing nothing
[07:54] <onlyHuman> at least its not missing the "Skip All" button any more. now THAT sucked.
[07:55] <rywilly> heh
[07:55] <rywilly> you mean, you don't like clicking Skip 1000 times?
[07:56] <onlyHuman> does this video play?:  http://98.207.221.176/home//index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=50
[07:57] <rywilly> ehhh...no
[07:57] <rywilly> but i think i need to reboot
[07:58] <rywilly> brb
[07:58] <onlyHuman> k
[08:01] <rywilly> onlyHuman, have you heard of euphoria? (the programming language)
[08:02] <onlyHuman> nope
[08:02] <rywilly> http://openeuphoria.org/
[08:02] <onlyHuman> just found out about sinatra today as well
[08:02] <rywilly> oh, i haven't heard of taht
[08:03] <rywilly> i'm on freenode because the #euphoria channel has been here for years. Found out xubuntu has a channel here, so i thought i'd come in here :)
[08:03] <pleia2> this is all quite off-topic, can we move this over to #xubuntu-offtopic? :)
[08:03] <pleia2> (this is actually just a support channel)
[08:04] <rywilly> ok, sorry about that
[13:23] <Ronalds_M> Hi everybody
[13:23] <marsje> how do I get rid of the scrollbars that appear only when you hover over it? I want to get rid of those once and for all...
[13:24] <Ronalds_M> I'm using XFCE on my ubuntu for a while, or xubuntu... and I miss scale, expose, hot corners effect from compiz
[13:25] <Ronalds_M> marsje, I think there was this ability in ubuntu tweak app
[13:26] <marsje> Ronalds_M: it works in both ubuntu and xubuntu? (the "feature" seems to be present in both)
[13:26] <Ronalds_M> ubuntu tweak-> tweaks-> miscelenous
[13:26] <Ronalds_M> overlay scrollbars
[13:26] <Ronalds_M> maybe it works :D
[13:28] <Ronalds_M> anyway, scale, expose, hot corners without compiz? I founded skippy app, but it doesn't have hot corners
[13:29] <Ronalds_M> there is telescope app in Arch repositories, but it doesn't work on ubuntu..
[13:37] <Ronalds_M> looks like I shoud bring this idea to ubuntu forums, or something, cause XFCE is super fast and is wonderfull alternative to unity, but misses expose/scale function you can get in unity with compiz
[14:56] <smiley1983> I'm maintaining a Xubuntu 12.04 install for someone else. When the wireless is unable to connect, it brings up a wireless authentication dialog. If this is left alone, it brings up more of them, creating a massive stack of windows on top of each other, which appear not to die when you close them because there are so many. How can I prevent it from ever bringing up this authentication dialog at all, and get it to instead continue quietly
[14:58] <smiley1983> I can go as far as changing the source if necessary, but I'm hoping someone will know a neater solution.
[16:47] <tomatopotato> I'm getting "error: environment block to small Press any key to continue" any idea why?
[17:49] <shmoove> In Settings > Mouse and Touchpad, acceleration affects the rate of change of mouse speed, not the actual mouse speed right?
[18:36] <squirreljedi516> is it possible to have 1 hard drive with xubuntu 12.10 on it and add 5 more hard drives in a raid?
[20:31] <xubuntu533> Hi, I fell in love with the design of this desktop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XFCE-4.10-Desktop.png And this is how I've found my way to Linux. Obviously this is the desktop environment XFCE 12.10 which is the default one of the latest XUBUNTU version. But why do the screenshots on http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/  show a different environment? Thanks
[20:32] <xubuntu533> (Sorry I meant XFCE 4.10)
[20:34] <Unit193> xubuntu533: It's the same, just different little default config.  It's even using the same Theme.
[20:34] <Unit193> (Pretty sure that is even Xubuntu)
[20:36] <xubuntu533> Unit193: Thanks for the quick response. I am totally new to Linux/Xubuntu. So if I want this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:XFCE-4.10-Desktop.png desktop, I have to download XUBUNTU from http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ But what do I need to do to get exactly the preferred desktop design?
[20:37] <Unit193> Looks to me like you just have to change the panel layout, no?  Right click panel > Panel > Preferences  or it's in the Settings Manager.
[20:41] <xubuntu533> Xubuntu is not installed yet, because I first wanted to make sure it's the right installer in order to get the preferred desktop. The status for WIFI looks to me like on ANROID phones and this is mainly why I want to get this desktop design. Also the background picture looks very beautiful; will this picture be on the system afer installing or do I need to get this picture somewhere else?
[20:41] <Unit193> You'll need to find that somewhere else.
[20:42] <Unit193> Since most people have their own images they use, the number on the iso is low.
[20:42] <xubuntu533> OK. Any idea where to find exactly that picture?
[20:44] <Unit193> I can try to help you find it.
[20:44] <xubuntu533> This would be very nice, since I've absolutely no clue how to find it.
[20:47] <Unit193> Hmm... It's not the same, but general idea is: http://www.hdwallpapers.efreez.com/wallpapers/3d-water-drop--1920x1200.jpg  That close enough?
[20:48] <Unit193> Since most of the image is covered, it is harder to find the exact one, but found several pretty close.
[20:49] <xubuntu533> Yes this picture looks pretty good. Thank you very much.
[20:49] <Unit193> Sure!
[20:50] <xubuntu533> I'll be offline now, but I think I'll have enough questions after installing xubuntu. ;-) Take care!
[20:50] <Unit193> Have a good one!
[22:28] <Ronalds_M> hi
[22:28] <Ronalds_M> who uses skippy here?
[22:36] <Ronalds_M> really nobody?
[22:36] <pleia2> never even heard of it
[22:37] <Ronalds_M> expose/scale app
[22:37] <Ronalds_M> like mac osx expose
[22:41] <pleia2> ah
[22:42] <Ronalds_M> nobody misses it on xfce?
[22:43] <Ronalds_M> it works with compiz/unity
[22:43] <Ronalds_M> and it's one feature, I would like to see in xfce
[22:48] <Ronalds_M> hello again
[22:48] <Ronalds_M> maybe somebody uses compiz with xfce?
[22:49] <Ronalds_M> can I run it just for one feature?
[23:11] <quint> i'm having trouble playing audio via bluetooth from my phone to my desktop
[23:11] <quint> i'm able to send files
[23:12] <quint> i can pair as an a2dp device and it's understood on both ends, when i play audio, theres no sound
[23:12] <quint> halp
[23:12] <quint> anybody experienced this?