[00:26] <shadeslayer> I've uploaded a new kubuntu-meta with the kubuntu-active seeds merged, so the old kubuntu-active needs deletion
[00:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^ do you have powers to do that?
[00:28] <Riddell> hmm, dunno
[00:29] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you should, it's in ~kubuntu-dev https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.raring
[00:29] <shadeslayer> no no
[00:29] <shadeslayer> not that
[00:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://pad.lv/u/kubuntu-active-meta
[00:30] <shadeslayer> I'm going to change that branch to Abandonded
[00:31] <Riddell> ah delete the package, let me see
[01:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you need to upload the new kubuntu-meta to make a kubuntu-active .deb so it doesn't get removed
[01:12] <shadeslayer> I did?
[01:12] <Riddell> not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta
[01:12] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/1.267
[01:13] <Riddell> hmm, launchpad on christmas holiday maybe
[01:13] <Riddell> I'll sleep and see if it catches up
[01:13] <shadeslayer> ok :)
[01:50] <micahg> shadeslayer: migrated to -release after last publisher run
[01:51] <shadeslayer> awesome
[02:35] <shadeslayer> fun http://paste.kde.org/631562/
[02:40] <shadeslayer> ah, lo-menubar is no more
[02:43] <micahg> right, it's in libreoffice now
[02:43] <micahg> oh, did I forget to upload an empty package...
[02:44] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/0.1.1-0ubuntu3
[02:44] <micahg> did that a while aog
[02:45]  * micahg wonders if libreoffice-kde has it as well
[02:45] <shadeslayer> how does one check ? :P
[02:47] <micahg> oh, so, he didn't do that right :(
[02:48] <shadeslayer> who didn't do what right?
[02:48] <micahg> sweetshark make libreoffice conflict on lo-menubar
[02:49] <shadeslayer> libreoffice-gtk conflicts with lo-menubar
[02:49] <micahg> right, that's what I mean
[02:49] <shadeslayer> but my seeds had an explicit dep
[02:50] <shadeslayer> but libreoffice-gtk itself has a reverse dep on lo-menubar
[02:50] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/631568/
[03:07] <micahg> on raring?
[03:07] <micahg> apt-cache rdepends is wonky like that
[03:07] <shadeslayer> yep
[03:08] <micahg> apt-cache show libreoffice-gtk says no such thing
[03:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[03:08] <micahg> and seeds shouldn't depend on transitional packages without a good reason :)
[03:09] <shadeslayer> I didn't knw it was a transitional package :P
[03:09] <shadeslayer> *know
[03:09] <micahg> I filed Bug #1093726 to get it installable again
[03:09] <shadeslayer> micahg: well .. lo-menubar is still un ... right
[03:09] <micahg> apt-cache show lo-menubar should say it's transitional :)
[03:10] <shadeslayer> what I mean is I added lo-menubar before it was transitional
[03:11] <micahg> shadeslayer: umm, ok
[03:11] <shadeslayer> why the umm?
[03:12] <micahg> because I don't think it's true :)
[03:12] <shadeslayer> hahah :D
[03:12] <micahg> I don't see it in kubuntu.quantal
[03:12] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/0.1.1-0ubuntu2 < that isn't a transitional package is it?
[03:12] <shadeslayer> micahg: not kubuntu, something else :)
[03:12] <micahg> ah, ok
[03:13] <micahg> right, but that was back in quantal
[03:13] <shadeslayer> ahh okay now I see the confusion :P
[03:13] <shadeslayer> my derivative is based on Quantal
[03:13] <micahg> so, yeah, if it's not in the archive, I take no responsibility :)
[03:13] <shadeslayer> ofcourse :)
[03:13] <micahg> but I made sure there were no rdeps in the archive
[03:13] <micahg> shadeslayer: sorry, forgot you had other projects :)
[03:13] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[03:14] <shadeslayer> that's alright, trivial to fix
[03:16] <shadeslayer> sweet : http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~rcs/research/interactive_latency.html
[03:18] <shadeslayer> the end of the 90's seems like the time where they made alot of improvement
[11:11] <shadeslayer> micahg: no love for transmission? :P
[11:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kubuntu-active-meta removed
[11:42] <shadeslayer> thx :)
[13:34] <ronnoc> yofel: I removed the telepathy daily build ppa and all is well again re: installing VNC
[13:34] <yofel> shadeslayer: ^
[13:35] <shadeslayer> huh?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> what build ppa?
[13:37] <ronnoc> shadeslayer: http://ppa.launchpad.net/telepathy-kde/daily-builds/ubuntu
[13:37] <shadeslayer> ronnoc: that's the daily build ppa that I was trying to setup
[13:37] <shadeslayer> it's not perfect
[13:37] <shadeslayer> but if you can tell me the issue, I can maybe fix it
[13:38] <ronnoc> had that active in raring and when attempting a VLC install it wanted to un-install plasma-widget-telepathy-presence :p
[13:39] <shadeslayer> did it say why?
[13:39] <ronnoc> idk I was in muon, not terminal :/
[13:39] <ronnoc> i disabled the ppa and vlc installed fine
[13:40] <ronnoc> i could re-enable it and see what insight i could give you
[13:47] <Riddell> I'm getting loads of error messages from builds in the kde-telepathy ppa
[13:48] <Riddell> there'll be something broken with it
[15:38] <Peace-> Riddell: ping 
[15:53] <Riddell> hi Peace- 
[15:53] <Peace-> Riddell: the package plasma-widget-yawp has a bug i mean the version of the widget has it 
[15:54] <Peace-> Riddell: with svn version it's fixed (the repository version can't be configured via javascript)
[15:55] <Peace-> Riddell: btw happy new year and merry christmas (written good ?? :D )
[15:55] <Riddell> happy boxing day
[15:56] <Peace-> lol
[15:58] <Riddell> well option for that yawp would be to poke upstrea into releasing a new version, grab a svn snapshot or grab the patch fixing the issue
[15:59] <Riddell> it would actually be quite a good task for someone who wanted to learn packaging
[15:59] <Riddell> Peace-: want to learn packaging?
[16:02] <Peace-> Riddell: mmm actually i am doing a stuff for kde
[16:04] <Riddell> I'll take that as a no :)
[16:04] <Peace->  :) i have my ppa but i don't know if i do packages well 
[17:07] <micahg> shadeslayer: it was third on my list, I just sponsored #1 :)
[17:07] <micahg> Riddell: time for a PM?
[20:07]  * ronnoc thinks that Riddell should hold a packaging class on #ubuntu-classroom. 
[20:07] <ronnoc> Consider me signed up! :)
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> i assume you mean advanced packaging :P
[20:27] <ronnoc> TheLordOfTime: Well you have to be noob before you can be advanced :p