[00:21] <adlez_> Hey guys, I installed kubuntu on my MacBook. Everything runs fine! :) But sometime ago a read something about the fan-system using linux. I should install some packages. Anyone suggestions? :)
[01:26] <Marius80> hi
[01:27] <Marius80> I've got some questions concerning the look and feel of kubuntu
[01:27] <monkeyjuice> you dont like the look and feel?
[01:28] <Marius80> when I open kwrite,  type some stuff,  and save it,  dialogue window opens (to save it)
[01:28] <Marius80> then I double click on an existing file in order to overwrite it
[01:28] <Marius80> but:  nothing happens...  I double click,  triple click...  nothing...
[01:29] <monkeyjuice> is it only kwrite that is doing this
[01:30] <Marius80> kate as well
[01:30] <Marius80> lemme see if openoffice does the same...
[01:30] <Marius80> one moment pls
[01:30] <gotoguy> cant you just select the file and just hit save?
[01:30] <Marius80> also openoffice
[01:31] <Marius80> gotoguy, I could ... but why should we all miss features KDE3 already achieved
[01:32] <OerHeks> Kate askes nicely if i want to overwrite.
[01:33] <Marius80> OerHeks, what version pls?
[01:33] <Marius80> I am on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[01:33] <monkeyjuice> double click seems to just put the name in then your asked to overwrite
[01:34] <OerHeks> kate 3.9.3
[01:34] <monkeyjuice> after you hit save
[01:34] <Marius80> if I click on "save",  I also get the same question
[01:34] <Marius80> only double clicking does not give me this question
[01:36] <Snowhog> Marius80: That's just how it is in KDE 4. KDE 4 is not like KDE 3.
[01:37] <shadeslayer> hm
[01:37] <gotoguy> ditto for monkeyjuice, that's how mine works too.
[01:37] <shadeslayer> also happens in 4.9.90
[01:37] <Marius80> Snowhog, I guess you are a developer and you're annoyed by many people's questions like "why does kde4 not behave like kde3?"  :-)
[01:39] <gotoguy> Why is BasKet Notes now broke when it worked perfectly in KDE3?   I know why, but I guess the maintainer isn't going to fix it either.
[01:40] <gotoguy> I wrote the maintainer of Basket Notes a email and he said no new versions are planned. Even though it is now in Beta.
[01:41] <OerHeks> I thinkit is a good system, double click on a file to replace it does not replace it without warning.
[01:41] <shadeslayer> Marius80: I recommend reporting a bug on bugs.kde.org
[01:41] <shadeslayer> the maintainers probably know why that functionality was removed
[01:42] <gotoguy> I would rather have it NOT overwrite without asking to be sure.
[01:43] <gotoguy> It's not a bug, it's a feature.
[01:44] <Marius80> an other annoying thing:   a window is set to  "keep above others"
[01:45] <Marius80> then I open krunner  (ALT+F2)
[01:45] <Marius80> and krunner is not on the top,  it is behind the window
[01:45] <shadeslayer> you did tell kwin to keep a window above everything else
[01:45] <shadeslayer> which is exactly what it's doing
[01:46] <Marius80> shadeslayer, actually kde3 knew,  that the run window should be "more above"
[01:47] <shadeslayer> make a new window rule to do that?
[01:47] <OerHeks> krunner altF2 shows on top of any window that i marked 'keep above others'
[01:48] <shadeslayer> same here
[01:48] <Marius80> OerHeks, in kubuntu 12.04 ?
[01:48] <OerHeks> no, 12.10
[01:48] <Marius80> hum... I might need to upgrade
[01:49] <Marius80> does in 12.10  the Enter-Bug exist?
[01:49] <shadeslayer> Enter-Bug?
[01:49] <Marius80> ALT+F2  ... type in a command... then enter...
[01:49] <Marius80> enter again
[01:49] <Marius80> enter...
[01:49] <Marius80> and then it starts
[01:49] <FloodBotK1> Marius80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Marius80> sorry for flooding
[01:49] <shadeslayer> never heard of such a bug
[01:49] <OerHeks> Nope, that glitch is solved
[01:50] <OerHeks> now it shows directly with typing the available command/commands and responds to enter
[01:50] <Marius80> I might need to install 12.10
[01:51] <Marius80> since 12.10 offers no alternate install cd...  can I use the xubuntu one and install  kubuntu-desktop later on?
[01:51] <gotoguy> try: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade       will do the trick.
[01:52] <oneadvent> hi, i'm trying to setup samba shares with dolphin and i keep getting asked for a password on the other side
[01:52] <oneadvent> can someone help me
[01:53] <Marius80> gotoguy, thx
[01:53] <Marius80> one more question...
[01:53] <gotoguy> no prob.
[01:53] <Marius80> in the open dialogue window (e.g. from kwrite)  I would like to achieve the following behaviour
[01:54] <Marius80> 1 click on folders should open them  but to open files,  I want to use  double clicks
[01:54] <Marius80> (as it was on kde3)
[01:55] <Marius80> I could only find a setting to make  folders and files  open by double click or single click
[01:55] <Marius80> but I couldn't find an option to make folders open with a single click and files with a double click
[01:55] <shadeslayer> Marius80: use the mini.iso and install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <shadeslayer> Marius80: such an option doesn't exist
[01:56] <shadeslayer> probably because the developers thought that it would be inconsistent
[01:57] <Marius80> hum
[01:57] <gotoguy> I wish for that feature too.
[01:57] <Marius80> gotoguy, what can we do to make developers build this feature?
[01:58] <gotoguy> probably write a comment to the developers mailing list.
[01:59] <gotoguy> first you have to join the list.
[01:59] <Marius80> gotoguy, would you mind asking?
[02:00] <gotoguy> Yeah, thats a good idea, I will do it.
[02:00] <Marius80> thank you very much gotoguy
[02:00] <gotoguy> no prob.
[02:01] <monkeyjuice> its the little things that make it better ;)
[02:02] <Marius80> oh... one more thing found:
[02:03] <Marius80> kwrite should open in the the folder a file has been opened from last
[02:03] <Marius80> example:  Last time I used kwrite,  I was in  /var/www/vhosts/test.tld
[02:03] <Marius80> when I open kwrite again,  I am in  /home/user/Documents
[02:06] <gotoguy> Marius80: right click your icon, the change the default path to open.
[02:08] <gotoguy> brb.
[02:12] <OerHeks> hi ralfi & 5 clones
[02:14] <Marius80> lol
[04:10] <AlexZion> hi guys, since few weeks I have a strange proble using amarok which often speeds up my cpus work's and so even temperature ...., some good start point to understand wath's going on ?
[04:11] <Platypus-Man> opening a terminal and typing a command called "top" will show you what is using up the PC's resources
[04:12] <AlexZion> yeah Platypus-Man I already checked and is amarok ....
[04:13] <AlexZion> and now it doesn't works anymore at all ...
[04:13] <AlexZion> no sound ...
[04:13] <Platypus-Man> ok, I'm a noob, so I have no clue beyond that really :p
[04:13] <AlexZion> ok , i'll check the phonon backend ...
[04:33] <artichoku> howdie
[04:34] <artichoku> anyone alive?
[04:35] <artichoku> hrm...
[05:03] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:26] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:45] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:14] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:10] <kristjan> Question for all Sony Xperia smartphone users, How can i update my android version with Kubuntu
[10:22] <shadeslayer> kristjan: usually Android does OTA updates
[10:26] <kristjan> i dont know, just got my xperia go and there is gingerbread installed, Ice cream sandwitch should be available for this model
[10:26] <kristjan> i did all updates
[10:27] <kristjan> i have win xp installed to virtual box
[10:27] <kristjan> but i cant access usb device from there
[10:40] <flavia_> hi, what's a good recording software for kubuntu?
[10:46] <shadeslayer> kristjan: I recommend googling around a bit
[10:47] <shadeslayer> kristjan: there's no installer per se for Kubuntu
[10:47] <shadeslayer> s/installer/updater/
[10:47] <shadeslayer> flavia_: what do you want to record?
[10:49] <flavia_> shadeslayer: speech (professor in class, rather long distance with background noise :)
[10:51] <flavia_> I'm trying out audacity, seems to do the job...
[10:52] <shadeslayer> flavia_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software#Recording.2C_editing_and_mastering
[11:39] <mariana_> HAY NICE TO MEET YOU
[11:40] <monkeyjuice> morning
[11:40] <mariana_> MORNING TOO
[11:40] <mariana_> WHERE DO YOU COME FROM
[11:41] <monkeyjuice> me? i live in the usa
[11:42] <mariana_> USA IAM FROM INDONESIA HOW I U TO DAY
[11:42] <shadeslayer> !caps
[11:42] <monkeyjuice> just got up need coffee ;)
[11:44] <mariana_> oke yhank
[12:17] <mike7b4_lenovo> Hi, I am using alpha version of kubuntu 13.04 because I wanted to try out new version of kate. Problem is I can't figure out where kubuntu installs kate developer header files or what package it is in (libkate-dev is installed but missing files mainwindow.h/plugin.h), Anyone who knows?
[12:41] <yofel> mike7b4_lenovo: the development files for kate aren't shipped
[12:42] <yofel> mike7b4_lenovo: if you need them please file a bug
[12:42] <mike7b4_lenovo> hmm ok
[13:26] <swex> help me please, why network manager ignores its vpn dns settings?
[13:26] <swex> I'm setting up vpn connection but my dns records still the same as before..
[13:30] <markit> hi, anyone know how to set video to use 16bpp?
[13:31] <markit> I want to do some experiment with that color depth
[14:52] <bodom> Hi there, i think i have a simple question: how do i launch telepathy (the new kde messenger)?
[14:58] <markit> bodom: I've no idea, but if you installed, and go in K menu and type "telep" it should appear
[14:58] <markit> maybe after a pair of minutes since you installed
[14:59] <bodom> markit: that's what i supposed too, but there's no sign of it
[14:59] <markit> open a terminal, start typing telep and then press TAB one or more tiles
[14:59] <markit> look if there is a name that could fit it
[14:59] <markit> then run it
[15:00] <bodom> markit: nothing again
[15:00] <markit> bodom: ehm, are you sure it was installed? what version of kubuntu are you using?
[15:00] <bodom> markit: neither ktel, k-tel, etc..
[15:00] <Rayonant> I think it is easier to do it trough krunner
[15:01] <bodom> markit: i've used sudo apt-get install telepathy-core kde-telepathy, not 100% sure, but command completed without errors
[15:01] <Rayonant> start typing telep
[15:01] <Rayonant> it should appear
[15:01] <markit> let me try with a live cd in a VM
[15:01] <bodom> it's quantal
[15:02] <markit> bodom: of course you are type in lowercase
[15:02] <bodom> markit: ofc, i'm using linux since 12 years
[15:03] <markit> so it's quantal or I have to check?
[15:03] <markit> probably telephaty is the underlaying "technology" or "layer" AFAIR
[15:05] <Rayonant> bodom try launching it form krunner, that is the way I do it, anyway the next time you boot it will start so you should try reboot
[15:07] <bodom> Rayonant: I cannot find it on krunner, will try reboot, but i cannot atm
[15:09] <dimitrispt> bodom, have checked the System Settings for the 'Instant Messaging Accounts' icon?
[15:09] <dimitrispt> *have you checked...
[15:11] <bodom> dimitrispt: i have one account defined there, disconnected
[15:11] <dimitrispt> then, as Rayonant said, you need to reboot... or re-login
[15:13] <bodom> i may be old-school, but is it possible that there is no command line executable to launch it?
[15:17] <bodom> finally found it! It's ktp-*
[15:30] <Rayonant> glad you found it bodom :)
[16:08] <haakonn> please press the power button on the kubuntu.org server or something
[16:12] <haakonn> i was wondering if there is a ppa or something for the kde 4.10 RC
[16:14] <Peace-> haakonn: there should be one but i don'0t remember ... and of course it's not supported
[16:14] <haakonn> yay kubuntu.org is back
[16:14] <haakonn> Peace-:  that's a given
[16:14] <hellslinger> does anyone know how to change the position for the OSD for brightness and volume?
[16:14] <haakonn> seems there is only beta 2
[16:18] <haakonn> no, it's actually 4.9.95 == 4.10 RC, yay
[16:27] <markit> haakonn: will be a backport of 4.10 for 12.04?
[16:27] <markit> I only see ppa for 12.10...
[16:28] <haakonn> the rc is in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta
[16:29] <markit> haakonn: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.90 says is for 12.10, not for 12.04
[16:30] <haakonn> markit:  oh, yes, i'm on 12.10
[16:30] <haakonn> if you're on 12.04, you're not supposed to like new things
[16:31] <markit> haakonn: well, is 4.10, not 5.0
[16:31] <yofel> markit: there are no official backports planned for 12.04, usually you get backports only for the current stable release
[16:32] <markit> yofel: ah, not for LTS also? mmm
[16:32] <markit> I've an issue with plasma at 16bpp, almost unusable, hope they fixed in 4.10
[16:33] <yofel> not for the LTS, no. It's a matter of what you can support (and have time for)
[16:35] <markit> yofel: sure, just hoped :)
[16:45] <artichoku> well no one is here at night. how about this morning?
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> artichoku, if you don't ask a question nobody answers you
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> post your REAL question, and wait
[16:48] <TheLordOfTime> it can take time to get a response
[16:48] <TheLordOfTime> especially this time of year.
[16:51] <artichoku> I recently did a fresh install of Kubuntu 12.10 64bit. I'm trying to switch from the STA wifi driver to the b43. I can successfully uninstall the STA driver, and even install and modprobe (without any errors) the b43 driver, but it still refuses to show up as usable.
[16:51] <artichoku> my interface disappears altogether
[18:21] <skrite> hey all
[19:02] <brun0> hi all, is somebody using yakuake here ?
[19:02] <Bigcheese> I do!
[19:03] <brun0> Bigcheese, my f12 keybinding isn't working
[19:03] <brun0> is it necessary some workaround ?
[19:04] <Bigcheese> make sure it's the global key for it.
[19:04] <Bigcheese> And that yakuake is actually running.
[19:05] <brun0> Bigcheese, yes i ran the ps command and it's runnin
[19:05] <brun0> Bigcheese, yes i ran the ps command and it's running
[19:05] <brun0> how can check the global key ?
[19:06] <Bigcheese> I've only done it from within yakuake.
[19:08] <brun0> Bigcheese, there is a option inside Shortcuts configuration
[19:08] <brun0> the option is Open/Retract Yakuake
[19:08] <Bigcheese> Yeah
[19:08] <Bigcheese> The far right column is the global key.
[19:08] <brun0> Shortcut is clean and Global is with F12 value
[19:08] <Bigcheese> Are you on a laptop?
[19:08] <brun0> Global has f12 value
[19:09] <brun0> no
[19:09] <brun0> i'm using a desktop
[19:09] <Bigcheese> Does your keyboard do stuff?
[19:09] <Bigcheese> :P
[19:09] <Bigcheese> Like have multifunction function keys.
[19:14] <Bigcheese> Dude
[19:16] <gribouille> Hi
[19:16] <gribouille> I have a problem with the trema. when I type ë, I get ê. what does that mean?
[19:32] <brun0> Bigcheese, when i changed to F7 it worked
[19:32] <Bigcheese> good
[19:32] <brun0> i think there is some conflict with some KDE shortcut
[19:32] <Bigcheese> Something was probably stealing F12.
[20:02] <DarthFrog> Yakuake uses F12.
[20:12] <skrite> hey all, is there a way in kubuntu to export all of my desktop settings to import into another computer? thanks
[20:13] <DarthFrog> skrite:  If that computer will be running KDE, everything is under ~/.kde
[20:14] <DarthFrog> Or you could just copy your entire home directory to the new machine. :-)
[20:15] <skrite> DarthFrog: i am looking to do this also for upgrade purposes. like saving a 12.04 settings and place the .kde folder into place over my .kde when i bump up to 12.10
[20:16] <skrite> DarthFrog: thanks for your help !
[20:48] <artichoku> I am requesting assistance replacing the broadcom STA driver with the b43 driver. I'm running kubuntu 12.10. I have tried the following. purge of sta and install of b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer. also tried b43-fwcutter in combo with the legacy and lpphy installers. both added and removed b43 from blacklist.conf. seems no matter what i do it won't let me use the b4 driver, but hardware info indicates that my card i
[20:48] <artichoku> s supported. However, i have received an error on multiple occasions that the driver must be installed manually.
[21:12] <markit2> mm trying 4.10 (.95), with a black backtroundn or a terminal open those trasparencies of K menu or activities or calendar or whatever are unreadable... am I doing something wrong?
[21:26] <KJ_agent007> umm..i need help
[21:28] <KJ_agent007> can someone help me?
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> KJ_agent007, if you ask your actual question maybe
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> nobody'll help you unless you provide details
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> such as what's wrong.
[21:28] <KJ_agent007> ok..how do i change to different rooms?
[21:29] <thelionroars> TheLordOfTime: you are discounting all the people in the chatroom who are telepathic
[21:29] <TheLordOfTime> thelionroars, which is 3 people.
[21:29] <TheLordOfTime> all of whom havent posted for 3 months :P
[21:29] <KJ_agent007> how can i find different rooms on here?
[21:29] <thelionroars> yes, shame on you
[21:29] <thelionroars> just /j the #channel
[21:30] <thelionroars>  so /j #ubuntu
[21:30] <thelionroars> or whatever channel you want to join
[21:30] <KJ_agent007> how do i find the channels?
[21:31] <thelionroars> you can use the /list command
[21:32] <KJ_agent007> and whats that?
[21:32] <macram> KJ_agent007 which client are you using?
[21:32] <thelionroars> but the output is fairly big
[21:32] <KJ_agent007> im using..Quassel IRC
[21:32] <KJ_agent007> im runnin Kubuntu Linux
[21:32] <macram> KJ_agent007: there is also Konversation :)
[21:33] <DarthFrog> I prefer Konversation to Quassel.
[21:33] <KJ_agent007> where do i find different rooms on here?
[21:33] <macram> KJ_agent007: looking for the GUI option, please stay tuned, mate
[21:33] <macram> ;)
[21:36] <macram> you can join a channel with a button in the toolbar
[21:36] <macram> bt i can't find a channel list window :S
[21:36] <KJ_agent007> hmmm
[21:36] <KJ_agent007> okk
[21:36] <KJ_agent007> thank you anyways
[21:37] <macram> KJ_agent007: try installing Konversation, is in the software center
[21:38] <KJ_agent007> okk
[21:38] <thelionroars> the problem I have with Konversation, which I'm using now, is that I can't work out how to auto-identify to more than one server at once
[21:38] <KJ_agent007> found it
[21:39] <thelionroars> If my identity identifies to freenode, when I go on quakenet it will try to contact nickserv on quakenet also
[21:39] <yofel> can you edit the server settings and set a password? If you put your nickserv password there it should auto identify as well
[21:41] <thelionroars> I'll try the commands section under the server, hopefully that'll work
[22:34] <markit> anyone here using kde 4.95 (4.10)?
[22:34] <markit> I don't know if is a problem of my hardware or not, but I have plasmoids like K or the activity with transparency
[22:34] <markit> that makes them unusable
[22:39] <kristjan> weird
[22:40] <markit> kristjan: are you talking with me? can you confirm?
[22:40] <markit> (the problem I mean)
[22:40] <kristjan> i confirm i dont know what u r talking about
[22:42] <markit> kristjan: because you have kde 4.10 and not my proble, or you don' thave kde 4.10 at all and just want to make me aware you are alive?
[22:44] <kristjan> im alive
[22:44] <kristjan> i think im the only one left in this world
[22:45] <kristjan> totally useless for you
[22:45] <kristjan> sorry
[22:45] <markit> :)
[22:58] <Marius80> hi
[22:58] <Marius80> I got a very bad problem on a very new installation of "Lubuntu" 12.10
[23:00] <Marius80> since there is no "alternate installation cd" for Kubuntu 12.10,  I decided downloading and installing  Lubuntu 12.10  which comes up with an alternate CD
[23:01] <Marius80> after the installation completed,  I wanted to install  "kubuntu-desktop"
[23:01] <Marius80> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SmAUnC2B
[23:01] <Marius80> ^^ this is what happens
[23:01] <Marius80> how can I solve this problem?
[23:02] <markit> what problem? just install and hope :)
[23:03] <Unit193> !mini | You can install the core system with a debian installer here
[23:03] <markit> Marius80: if you enter "Y" the lubuntu desktop will be removed, and kubuntu installed, that's ok. You will break 2 little dependencies, you will fix later
[23:04] <Unit193> See also,
[23:04] <Unit193> !purekde
[23:04] <Marius80> markit: well, the mini.iso  would only work with a working internet connection while installing, right?
[23:04] <markit> Unit193: interesting info, thanks
[23:04] <Unit193> markit: Sure thing.
[23:04] <Unit193> Marius80: Yes.
[23:05] <Marius80> actually I can only connect to my WIFI using the  KDE interface or the one from Lubuntu... whenever I tried using the shell,  it did not work out
[23:05] <Marius80> same goes for the wicd program....  it does not connect to the WIFI
[23:05] <Marius80> so I prefered using a graphical installation
[23:06] <Marius80> but thank you very much for the advice
[23:06] <Marius80> markit?
[23:07] <Marius80> markit: I am not sure if it is really okay to hit "Y"
[23:07] <markit> Marius80: I think it is, in any case you don't have any other choice
[23:08] <Marius80> markit: I go for it...  will you try to help me resolving the dependencies after the installation finished?
[23:08] <markit> Marius80: I'm trying to help libreoffice 4.0 QA at the moment, but sure if I have some spare time
[23:09] <Marius80> markit: erm... how comes,  apt-get  offers to do it without any hassle?
[23:09] <markit> I mean, I will be around for an hour at least, so feel free to ask, hope you will be able to reconnect though
[23:09] <markit> Marius80: well, how could they predict all the relation and problems that can arise from some thousand packets?
[23:10] <markit> apt just warns you about what it knows... dependencies declared by the packagers
[23:10] <Marius80> markit: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9JSjWxnV
[23:10] <markit> in any case, seems you will miss dependencies for non essential programs
[23:10] <markit> let me see
[23:11] <markit> ok, fine
[23:12] <Marius80> would you trust apt-get over aptitude in this case?
[23:15] <doctorpepper> hi guys!
[23:15] <doctorpepper> is there any way to install kde-4.10 rcs  on 12.04 ?
[23:16] <heoyea> try backports
[23:16] <jEhrichs> doctorpepper: see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.90
[23:16] <Marius80> doctorpepper: hell don't try that
[23:16] <jEhrichs> ? works like a charm here
[23:17] <Marius80> I installed kde from backports and what I got is the reason why I reinstalled the system
[23:17] <jEhrichs> oha this shouldn't happen. what problems did you had exactly?
[23:17] <Marius80> parts of the system settings _always_ crahsed when opening
[23:17] <Marius80> the ALT+F2 krunner dialog was messed up
[23:18] <Marius80> and unmet dependencies
[23:18] <doctorpepper> jEhrichs:  the links is actually for 12.10 not 12.04
[23:18] <Marius80> I installed kde 4.9.3  (I think) on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:18] <jEhrichs> ah wupps now that you mentionion it. yeah i have 12.10 running.
[23:19] <Marius80> oh I see
[23:19] <Marius80> sorry
[23:19] <Marius80> did not know that... no clue if it works in 12.10... I am on 12.10 since about 20 minutes
[23:19] <markit> Marius80: I have 12.04 in some pc with backports, and kde works fine, maybe you messed it up with something else
[23:19] <jEhrichs> still this should not happen. but seems it might be really better to stay away from 4.10 on kubuntu 12.04
[23:19] <markit> jEhrichs: there is NO 4.10 in 12.04
[23:20] <Marius80> markit: I need to tell that I have also had installed the trinity-desktop
[23:20] <jEhrichs> M*narf* 12.04 was what i meant
[23:20] <Marius80> maybe thats why
[23:20] <markit> maybe... ;P
[23:20] <markit> btw, my netbook now has 12.10 with 4.10 and seems to work fine
[23:21] <markit> except a transparency issue, but I do fear is a mad kde design decision
[23:21] <Marius80> ok then I will try that out here
[23:21] <jEhrichs> laptop with 12.10 and 4.10 running fine since 2 days
[23:21] <Marius80> markit: as you know, I am on Lubuntu 12.10
[23:21] <jEhrichs> markit: transparency in plasma design? this seems to be a bug
[23:21] <markit> jEhrichs: do you have visual effects enabled, and K menu, calendar, activities etc plasmoid with transparencies?
[23:21] <Marius80> at the moment,  "ubuntu-desktop" is installing (Gnome)
[23:22] <Marius80> how would I install KDE 4.10  from backports?  Should I NOT install  "kubuntu-desktop" for that?
[23:22] <jEhrichs> i switched the plasma theme back and fourth and everything looks normal again
[23:22] <markit> Marius80: first, install kubuntu NORMAL
[23:22] <markit> then if system is stable, activate backport and do an upgrade
[23:22] <markit> you are doing a too far jump otherwise, OMHO
[23:22] <markit> jEhrichs: do you mind my showing you a picture of what I mean?
[23:23] <jEhrichs> markit: feel free to show it
[23:23] <Marius80> by saying "install kubuntu normal" - do you mean I shall delete my system (Lubuntu) ?
[23:23] <Marius80> or do you mean I should install "kubuntu-desktop"
[23:23] <markit> jEhrichs: http://imagebin.org/240703
[23:23] <jEhrichs> no need to delete "lubuntu" you can install kubuntu.desktop and use both systems
[23:24] <markit> Marius80: I mean you should not activate additional PPA for backports or kde
[23:24] <markit> s/or/of
[23:24] <markit> jEhrichs: does it happen to you too? do you have effects activated?
[23:25] <jEhrichs> markit: my desktop looked simmilar after the desktop. I switched the Plasma theme from air to something else and now back to "Air for netbooks" and this one looks normal and correct
[23:25] <markit> I've opened a terminal full screen to show it better
[23:25] <jEhrichs> i assume this is a bug in the "Air" plasma theme
[23:26] <markit> jEhrichs: maybe a config problem then? you mean you switched back to the same theme?
[23:26] <markit> (I usually don't change theme, don't remember them by name)
[23:26] <jEhrichs> no in conculsion i swutched from "Air" (the default) to "Air for netbooks" kinda like the default
[23:26] <jEhrichs> *switched
[23:27] <jEhrichs> the "Air" theme is still bugged with the mising/transparent backgrounds
[23:28] <markit> jEhrichs: something devs are aware, or better file a bug?
[23:29] <Marius80> ok,  gnome has installed...  I need to switch my desktop environment... will be back soon... then I try to install  KDE
[23:29] <Marius80> see you soon
[23:29] <jEhrichs> no idea, i just assumed this was already be filed as this was very present right after the update (so everyone should have noticed it)
[23:31] <markit> jEhrichs: is just I fear so much the "aesthetic madness" that thought was a new brilliant decision to make it "cooler"
[23:32] <jEhrichs> nah I really can't believe this was done on purpose. otherwise we would have gotten thum blurred baackground instead