[00:05] <penguin42> jtaylor: I noticed the list of bugs-with-patches is huge
[00:05] <penguin42> It's kind of similar to one of the observations by the debian guys looking at their critical bugs for release; they reckon a high proportion have fixes, just no one has reviewed them
[00:06] <jtaylor> many bugs in ubuntu are never looked at
[00:06] <jtaylor> debian is where the work should be done
[00:06] <jtaylor> for universe ubuntu does not have the manpower
[00:07] <penguin42> jtaylor: Yeh, although fortify triggers a whole bunch for us that just don't trigger in debian
[00:09]  * penguin42 should learn more about how to drive the debian bug/patch process
[00:09] <jtaylor> for fortify things I'd go with forward to upstream/debian
[00:09] <penguin42> while there are some things I hate about lp, its still lovely compared to the dbts
[00:09] <jtaylor> if both are dead, stop caring possibly remove
[00:10] <penguin42> yeh I don't know how to make that call
[00:10] <jtaylor> I love the bts
[00:10] <jtaylor> its so simple but yet so powerful
[00:10] <jtaylor> it lacks a little in discoverability though
[00:10] <penguin42> nod, google seems to really index lp well as well
[00:12] <jtaylor> lp hasn't got any version tracking
[00:12] <jtaylor> which is a pita
[00:13] <penguin42> you mean the way bts shows you the gaph of package versions?
[00:13] <penguin42> graph
[00:13] <jtaylor> yes
[00:13] <penguin42> yeh, that's neat
[00:16] <uKev> so could you test the bug with your netbook?
[00:17] <uKev> my ubuntu installation in the vm just finished and I'm installing build-dep now
[00:17] <uKev> (could reproduce the bug)
[00:27] <jtaylor> the package takes ages to build ._.
[00:27] <penguin42> it does on a netbook....
[00:27] <jtaylor> I'm building on my main machine
[00:28] <penguin42> ahok then :-)
[00:37] <jtaylor> wtf why is glines setuid?
[00:38] <penguin42> scores?
[00:38] <uKev> ah yes
[00:39] <uKev> so I tried quilt but -a does not exist, so I have to use quilt add ?
[00:39] <uKev> quilt add -P patch ?
[00:39] <uKev> ah quilt push, sorry..
[00:43] <uKev> "No series file found" is that ok?
[00:43] <jtaylor> no
[00:43] <jtaylor> you ahve to do: export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches
[00:43] <jtaylor> I forget about that because its in my bashrc :/
[00:43] <FernandoMiguel> nn
[00:44] <uKev> ah, so I delete the patches directory and start again?
[00:44] <jtaylor> yes
[00:45] <uKev> message is the same "No series file found" - do I have to do push after importing patch?
[00:45] <jtaylor> are you in the gnome-games source folder?
[00:46] <uKev> I just used apt-get source glines.. so no
[00:47] <uKev> so I cd into gnome-games-3.4.1 and then use quilt push -a; quilt import ../04_segfault.patch ?
[00:47] <jtaylor> yes
[00:48] <jtaylor> then another quilt push to apply the patch
[00:48] <uKev> "ends in "Patch cant_castle_after_rook_taken.patch" - so right?
[00:48] <uKev> quilt push or quilt push -a ?
[00:48] <jtaylor> doesn't matter
[00:50] <bjsnider> quilt add adds the file to be patched, it's quilt new to create the patch
[00:50] <bjsnider> quilt new patch; quilt add file
[00:56] <uKev> ah yes ok...builds now
[00:57] <uKev> I guess I should have added more cpus to the vm :)
[00:57] <uKev> but it's ok. That way my legs won't get to hot..
[00:58] <jtaylor> is raring i386 actually affected?
[01:00] <uKev> didn't test it. Have precise installed
[01:03] <uKev> hah, great. compiling has finished and the package is working
[01:03] <uKev> just used dpkg -i to install it
[01:10] <jtaylor> I'll check that tomorrow
[01:11] <jtaylor> if someone does check before me please post it in the bug
[01:12] <marenostrum> !topic
[01:13] <marenostrum> !topic
[01:14] <marenostrum> !topic
[01:15] <penguin42> please don't taunt the bot
[01:16] <marenostrum> penguin42, OK. You are right. Just tried something. Sorry.
[02:00] <lcabreza1> need help here. my 12.04 ubuntu laptop is getting real slow ..what could be the cause of this ?
[02:00] <penguin42> this channel is for 13.04 onwards, please see #ubuntu for help on older stuff
[02:01] <TheLordOfTime> lcabreza1, /join #ubuntu.
[02:01] <TheLordOfTime> lcabreza1, you can get 12.04 support there.
[02:04] <lcabreza1> thanks
[03:07] <Bluefoxicy> is it possible to use a configuration file to instruct Ubuntu to do a full release upgrade?
[21:23] <alex_mayorga> Can one jump into raring yet?
[21:25] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Works for me, some people have had problems - but hey
[21:28] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: Guess usual YMMV applies
[21:29] <penguin42> nod
[21:33] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: How did you jump in?
[21:34] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: I've got a VM that I installed from a daily, and I also have done a  do-release-upgrade on my kubuntu desktop
[21:46] <alex_mayorga> penguin42: just tried do-release-upgrade and got: "No new release found", am I doing it wrong?
[21:46] <penguin42> alex_mayorga: Add a -d to get versions still in development