[15:50] <yharrow> hey guys
[15:59] <Interruptus> hola yharrow
[16:10] <yharrow> hey Interruptus  :D
[16:11] <yharrow> hows it going
[16:11] <Interruptus> not too bad
[16:11] <Interruptus> how yours?
[16:11] <yharrow> ok doing a little FPS atm
[16:11] <yharrow> and lurking here of course
[16:12] <yharrow> I noticed that there hasnt been much activity with the team since about 2010 at least according to the wiki
[16:12] <yharrow> Is that accurate?
[16:13] <yharrow> Either way, I'd like to help the team in some way if I can.
[16:13] <Interruptus> this place is quite dead
[16:13] <yharrow> I just don't know who to ask and you are the only one I see online
[16:13] <Interruptus> the big years was about 4 years ago
[16:13] <yharrow> yeh I noticed xD
[16:13] <yharrow> at least in IRC
[16:14] <yharrow> well tbh with steam coming out with a version for linux, I think ubuntu has alot of doors opened for it.
[16:14] <Interruptus> im not too much into gams
[16:14] <Interruptus> games
[16:14] <Interruptus> and im using fedora and debian mainly
[16:14] <yharrow> Yes, but its a major factor that affects popularity and rate of adoption among common users
[16:15] <yharrow> I used so many distros I cant remember all the names. But all common ppl care about is ease of use
[16:15] <Interruptus> indeed
[16:15] <yharrow> and the more people use linux, the better it is for hte whole eco system
[16:15] <yharrow> thats why I got into ubuntu in the first place
[16:15] <yharrow> because of its potential to bring good to all of us
[16:15] <Interruptus> once my gf laptop got thrashed , i gave her mine
[16:15] <yharrow> xD
[16:15] <Interruptus> she almost threw a shoe over me
[16:16] <yharrow> lmao
[16:16] <yharrow> which distro?
[16:16] <yharrow> debian?
[16:16] <yharrow> or gentoo?
[16:16] <Interruptus> fedora
[16:16] <yharrow> :P
[16:16] <yharrow> oh ok
[16:16] <yharrow> if u wnat her to throw u out, give her gentoo
[16:16] <Interruptus> lol, this is on a border of masochism
[16:16] <Interruptus> even for me
[16:16] <yharrow> lmao
[16:16] <yharrow> xD
[16:16] <yharrow> exactly
[16:17] <yharrow> but it gives the community charcter
[16:17] <yharrow> what would sane ppl be without crazies?
[16:19] <Interruptus> i did try gentoo
[16:19] <yharrow> i never did, wasnt brave enough
[16:19] <Interruptus> i watched the computer compiling stuff until i went a sleep sitting
[16:19] <yharrow> but of course i know some pp lhave legitimate reasons for trying it
[16:19] <yharrow> lol
[16:20] <yharrow> gentoo in some ways is the extreme example of a custom sports car
[16:20] <yharrow> except for operating systems
[16:21] <yharrow> The problem with ubuntu, was that even though it was the best, it still wasnt good enough. And so it lost momentum
[16:21] <yharrow> but considering the unique market these days
[16:21] <Interruptus> i dont like when the release masters of the distro pushing me stuff that i dont want and i dont need
[16:21] <Interruptus> alot of stuff
[16:22] <yharrow> with the advent of mobile computing and the adoption of linux by popular distirbutors of applicaitons of games
[16:22] <yharrow> and games*
[16:22] <yharrow> yes but if you only upgrade
[16:22] <yharrow> and dont reinstall
[16:22] <yharrow> u wont get pushed too much afaik
[16:23] <Interruptus> my debian is 13 yrs old
[16:23] <Interruptus> and counting
[16:23] <Interruptus> so many hardware parts went in and out
[16:23] <Interruptus> and so many upgrades i did
[16:23] <Interruptus> its still standing and serving
[16:24] <Interruptus> just like toyota hilux
[16:24] <yharrow> honestly I never had too much trouble with upgrading ubuntu either after a certain point
[16:24] <yharrow> haha xD
[16:24] <yharrow> ubuntu used to do a crappy job at upgrading but its pretty smooth these days
[16:25] <Interruptus> never had any success upgrading ubuntu
[16:25] <yharrow> when did you try
[16:25] <Interruptus> 8.04 9.04
[16:25] <Interruptus> 9.10
[16:25] <Interruptus> 10.04
[16:25] <Interruptus> 10.10
[16:36] <yharrow> sorry got distracted
[16:37] <yharrow> i think around 10.10 is when things started tgetting better but then again some machines always had problems
[16:37] <yharrow> either way, my policy with linux has alwys been use what works
[16:38] <yharrow> I think when steam comes out for linux alot of ppl will jump back on the linux ship. I just wanted to get a head start :P
[16:38] <yharrow> because honestly if theres no ship for ppl to catch we could miss an oppurtunity for linux
[16:38] <yharrow> despite all the crap linux makes me take I still believe in it
[16:38] <yharrow> especially with MS getting all greedy with its App Store
[16:39] <Interruptus> i always had troubles with exotic HW products
[16:39] <Interruptus> like
[16:39] <Interruptus> FC cards
[16:39] <Interruptus> SCSI controllers
[16:39] <Interruptus> SAS controllers
[16:39] <Interruptus> i had to get the FW myself and load it
[16:45] <yharrow>  yeh no noob will evr have the patience to do that
[16:46] <yharrow> i think mark shuttleworth is such a visionary that ppl still dont understand his vision
[16:47] <yharrow> 5 years ago or even 2 years ago most ppl would have put a 100 dollar bet that linux would never have any quality games. but these days top tier producers are devloping for linux
[16:48] <yharrow> but even that is just a stepping stone for the final goal
[16:49] <yharrow> which I believe is the ultimate freedom of software and information
[16:49] <yharrow> the fact that the richest man in the world made his fortune on a single product which isnt even physical is something to think about
[16:51] <yharrow> and yes there are many issues like yopu mentioned just before with hardware
[16:51] <yharrow> but that is all changing
[16:51] <yharrow> some OS purists may not like it, but the more large companies get involved, the better hardware support gets
[17:06] <yharrow> How long have you used linux for?
[17:27] <Interruptus> since 1999
[18:55] <yharrow_mobile> testing