[00:51] <len-dt> zequence, I think that more than installing a new theme there needs to be some way of setting it as default.
[00:58] <Lumpy> merry christmas len and room
[00:59] <len-dt> Lumpy, Happy Christmas to you too... for whats left of it. In lots of places it is already the 26th
[00:59] <Lumpy> true
[01:01] <Lumpy> how was yours?
[01:02] <len-dt> It has been good. much better than I thought. I have been so wiped out from work I have not had the energy to prepare.
[01:02] <len-dt> but it turned out great anyway.
[01:02] <Lumpy> good to hear
[01:04] <len-dt> I deliver mail for a living so this has been the busiest two weeks for me.
[01:05] <len-dt> We have had some people retire/transfer out, so we have been short of people and had forced over time.
[01:05] <Lumpy> ic
[01:05] <len-dt> my knees and ankles have not been taking it well
[01:05] <Lumpy> how many miles a day do you end up walking?
[01:05] <len-dt> 12 to 15
[01:06] <Lumpy> that will keep you alive a long time mate
[01:06]  * Lumpy tries to get in at least 3 a day
[01:06] <len-dt> We go quick as we don't get paid by the hour
[01:07] <len-dt> So when I finish I can go home
[01:13] <Lumpy> meanwhile i do it as a break from the at-home grind
[10:22] <zequence> frei0r? Anyone use it?
[16:09] <len-1304> It seems to be included in my 13.04 by default.
[16:09] <len-1304> zequence, ^
[16:09] <len-1304> Also, recordmydesktop that used to be included in 12.04 is missing.
[16:10] <len-1304> it is quite small so I think I will just add it back.
[16:10] <zequence> len-1304: Ah, good
[16:10] <len-1304> It is a desktop video recorder
[16:11] <len-1304> I will also add the gui for it (also quite small) so people can see it.
[16:12] <len-1304> zequence, we should be looking at things that are included in ubuntu by default, that we want to include and add them as depends so if ubuntu stops including them (due to size?) we will still have them.
[16:14] <zequence> len-1304: I don't think we have "Ubuntu" stuff, other than ubuntu-minimal, do we?
[16:14] <len-1304> Ya, but it must have been where recordmydesktop came from in 12.04
[16:15] <zequence> ubuntu-minimal is just the basic gnu tools, when you install without a desktop
[16:15] <len-1304> Unless it was a dep for another app we have/had
[16:16] <len-1304> Tis the day for spam :P
[16:16] <zequence> Our sources aren't affected by either Ubuntu or Xubuntu directly, I hope
[16:17] <zequence> I have no idea about the XFCE setup
[16:17] <zequence> So, maybe something to do with that?
[16:18] <len-1304> I'm trying to remember what we use on our live iso as a base. I thought there was a desktop-minimal or something like that.
[16:19] <zequence> I think we should add kdenlive to seeds
[16:20] <len-1304> Lots of libs. But if it does things well... sure.
[16:20] <len-1304> I think Scott was thinking of adding it.
[16:21] <zequence> It seems to be the best choice for video editing anyway
[16:21] <len-1304> There have beena number of people who have requested it for sure... or maybe the same person more than once :)
[16:22] <len-1304> Do you want me to add it when I add recordmydesktop?
[16:22] <len-1304> zequence, ^^
[16:26] <zequence> len-1304: Sure :)
[16:26] <len-1304> Added to my list.
[16:28] <len-1304> zequence, I am thinking that our wording about upgrading from gnome based studio to xfce based Studio should be worded stronger... Something about bug reports will not be pursued.
[16:29] <zequence> len-1304: I can't tell what the problems are there, and if our setup is lacking something
[16:30] <len-1304> Whats google+ ? Why does Scott want me to join?
[16:31]  * len-1304 wonders what is wrong with email?
[16:31] <zequence> It's googles social service
[16:31] <len-1304> I already don't want facebook... maybe I will ingore this one too.
[16:32] <len-1304> I get too much spam already just from what I already do.
[16:32] <zequence> len-1304: We do have a Ubuntu Studio "page", and a Ubuntu Studio "community" there. The "page" will be used for posting news, while  the "community" part is much like a mail list, where anyone can post and ask questions
[16:33] <zequence> Not much activity yet. There was one looking for a video editor, and found kdenlive to be good :)
[16:34] <zequence> I use g+ as a news channel
[16:34] <zequence> There are pages for most nix* stuff there
[16:34] <zequence> Not very fast on older machines though
[16:36] <len-1304> I spend too much time already, but I should join the ubuntustudio mailing list.
[16:39] <len-1304> Anyway, breakfast time here...
[16:41] <zequence> I've spent a couple of days studying kernel maintenance
[16:41] <zequence> Reading through the debian/rules file right now
[16:42] <zequence> Once you start trying to understand one piece of the puzzle, it often seems you have to go through the entire puzzle
[16:42] <zequence> Not a bad thing in the end, just takes time..
[16:52] <zequence> Wonder when it might become time to consider arm arch
[16:53] <zequence> I'm buying a Raspberry shortly. Fun to see what you can do with it
[17:04] <micahg> len-1304: sorry for the delay, uploading the icon theme now
[17:51] <micahg> len-1304: do you realize that kdenlive will pull in a bunch of KDE stuff and balloon your ISO?
[17:55] <Len-nb> micahg, yes, there have been anumber of people asking for it including Scott and zequence 
[17:56] <Len-nb> micahg, are you doing -settings right now?
[17:57] <micahg> Len-nb: ok, you have the space on the DVD, just wanted to make sure you're aware, yeah, was about to look at settings, I made a few lintian fixes to icon-theme before uploading
[17:57] <Len-nb> I have a small change to do on setting to go with recordmy desktop Can I do that?
[17:58] <micahg> sure
[17:59] <Len-nb> micahg, done
[18:01] <Len-nb> -settings is ready to go.
[18:02] <micahg> Len-nb: ok, -icon-theme still needs a copyright file fix, should I file a bug?
[18:02] <Len-nb> OK, what is the problem?
[18:02] <micahg> unversioned GPL listed
[18:03] <micahg> doesn't have to be now, can be later
[18:03] <Len-nb> Ok, I thought we were all CC
[18:03] <micahg> packaging was licensed under the GPL
[18:03] <Len-nb> Ya , it may take some research
[18:03] <micahg> ok, no rush
[18:04] <Len-nb> I do need to know if it has been released as is though.
[18:04] <micahg> yeah, i thought i pushed everything up
[18:05] <Len-nb> Good. Ya it looked ok to me.
[18:05] <Len-nb> Just wanted to make sure I should be testing it tomorrow on the iso
[18:09] <micahg> well, it'll probably be thursday's ISO before everything is on
[18:09] <micahg> should I upload the -meta as well
[18:10]  * micahg will be back on later
[18:13] <len-1304> Not a problem, I am not in a hurry. I assume the seeds will end up on the ISO even before the meta is up loaded.
[18:13]  * len-1304 is rebooting
[19:52] <Len-nb> gave up on unity on my wife's computer... lets try xubuntu 12.10