thompa | i used the ubuntu to ubuntu studio upgrade method but missing studio login screen as well as volume control in panel. also windows theme is wrong | 00:51 |
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bjoe | I done this in ubuntustudio https://soundcloud.com/simp10plus/simp10plus13eighths-4bassnbeat | 00:54 |
len-dt | thompa, There are some things in /etc that will not be upgraded by installing packages. The themes may be there, but the setting to select the theme would not be. | 00:56 |
bjoe | i just installed 12.10 on sda1 and think i shoulda left where to install the boot loader to sda instead of changeing it to sda1 because it boots up into grub rescue | 00:56 |
len-dt | thompa, have you installed ubuntustudio-default-settings? | 00:57 |
thompa | len-dt, yea I figured. I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu | 00:57 |
bjoe | i dont know what would be faster, figuring out how to fix or installing again | 00:57 |
thompa | hmmm | 00:57 |
thompa | I cant move my files to windows partition cause its too full so reinstall not option | 00:58 |
thompa | len-dt, my terminal has no prompt either now | 00:58 |
thompa | I think i need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop first | 00:58 |
thompa | len-dt, there is no package called ubuntustudio-default settings | 00:59 |
bjoe | reinstalling is what I have chose to do | 01:00 |
thompa | len-dt, nevermind i found it | 01:00 |
thompa | bjoe, for what | 01:00 |
thompa | you should not have to reinstall | 01:00 |
len-dt | thompa, I have personally never tried switching from vanilla to studio. So I am just trying to figure out what packages are all there. | 01:00 |
bjoe | to get grub to boot the correct partition | 01:01 |
bjoe | too late i allready started reinstalling | 01:01 |
len-dt | bjoe, switching the place grub is installed is not that hard. | 01:01 |
len-dt | OK | 01:01 |
thompa | I think studio uses some xcfe stuff and i may have purged that too. | 01:02 |
thompa | bjoe, is it the orger you want to change? | 01:02 |
thompa | *order | 01:02 |
bjoe | len-dt, getting me to figure out how to do it seems impossible i dont understand grub | 01:02 |
len-dt | Ya, I can figure out the command, but the next time a new kernel comes in I am not sure it would stick. | 01:03 |
thompa | bjoe, http://www.unixmen.com/grub-customizer-2-5-5-is-available-customize-grubburg-from-a-gui-interface/ | 01:04 |
thompa | thats the gui link. you can also do a grub reinstall | 01:05 |
bjoe | thanks, I would have to reenter all the networking stuff to get online . | 01:05 |
bjoe | i'm in the install now. I want sda1 to be where I install ubuntustudio and i could care less about booting sda2 or sda3 | 01:06 |
thompa | oh at the install ok | 01:07 |
thompa | just do a custom install. the last option | 01:07 |
bjoe | so do i select /dev/sda as the place for the bootloader and then change /dev/sda1 to mount at / | 01:08 |
bjoe | ? | 01:08 |
thompa | there you can see the sds. delete or format sda1 and recreate | 01:08 |
bjoe | i'm at the custom install | 01:08 |
bjoe | yeah | 01:08 |
thompa | yes | 01:08 |
thompa | you got it | 01:08 |
bjoe | what about the bootloader? last time i selected sda1 as where the bootloader goes and added the bootflag | 01:09 |
thompa | leave the bootloader default i think its sda | 01:09 |
bjoe | cool | 01:09 |
thompa | no | 01:09 |
thompa | it should be sda i think | 01:09 |
bjoe | ok i did have grub bouncing around all over the place before with windows and a couplea linux partitions | 01:10 |
bjoe | the boot flag was on the ntfs partition sda2 before should I change that back? | 01:11 |
bjoe | i guess it doesn't matter | 01:12 |
thompa | it does | 01:12 |
bjoe | which partition does the boot flag need to be on? | 01:13 |
thompa | ntfs will be detected so it should be sda | 01:13 |
bjoe | ok i think if i leave sda as where the bootloader goes it should figure it out | 01:13 |
thompa | if you go back a step what is the default? | 01:13 |
thompa | yes | 01:13 |
thompa | you got it | 01:14 |
thompa | dont mess with it | 01:14 |
thompa | only format sda1 of course / | 01:14 |
bjoe | yes copying files now | 01:14 |
thompa | all the other stuff will be detected. | 01:14 |
thompa | well good luck | 01:14 |
thompa | the ubuntustudio desktop meta package seems to be missing files. i am going to have to install all of it piece by piece | 01:17 |
bjoe | cool it doesn't matter about the other partitions booting. the registry is screwed from some old trojan on windows and i got my kernel and video adapter out of version sync on the ubuntu. it's quicker to start over but i have data opn both the other partitionsd that needs to be kept | 01:17 |
thompa | ya you can pull that data over from studio | 01:17 |
thompa | it will mount the others | 01:18 |
bjoe | thank goodness. | 01:18 |
bjoe | I'm hoping I can use the other ubuntu partition as a home mount point and just erase all the stuff i dont need | 01:19 |
bjoe | thompa what are you doing ? | 01:20 |
thompa | well that you could have assigned at the install | 01:20 |
thompa | i have an old ubuntu system converting to ubuntustudio. It wont change the themes and missing stuff | 01:21 |
bjoe | I can do that from gparted too cant I | 01:21 |
bjoe | I had that happen once with gnome lost all the themes except the whited out one | 01:21 |
thompa | it will have created /home already on sda1 | 01:21 |
thompa | I think ubuntu unity crap did something | 01:22 |
thompa | you could use the extra partition as storage. | 01:22 |
thompa | just leave your home call the other one data or backup or video | 01:23 |
thompa | something like that. | 01:23 |
thompa | you have some work cut out if you change /home i think. i cant remember | 01:24 |
bjoe | don't you have to change to like xfce window manager or something to get the ubuntustudio theme? | 01:24 |
bjoe | openbox is good to use with old systems | 01:24 |
thompa | yea it uses a bit of both | 01:24 |
thompa | i purged xcfe and them wont come back . it should with ubuntustudio install | 01:25 |
bjoe | i don't know how to add entries into the logon thing but that would be the way to go like clone your xfce, gnome, cairo or whatever and then do openbox -replace | 01:25 |
thompa | thats a cool idea. | 01:26 |
thompa | my machine is pretty fast. 8 processors with nvidia | 01:26 |
bjoe | dang | 01:26 |
thompa | tor is it 6 sorry | 01:26 |
bjoe | i guess you dont need openbox haha | 01:26 |
thompa | something in the default install is not pulling in or replacing ubuntu | 01:27 |
bjoe | mine is configuring boot loader | 01:27 |
bjoe | runningf update-grub that is probably what i shoulda done but i think mine loaded grub1 or something | 01:28 |
thompa | i found the quantal list of packages for studio so will have to just check all those | 01:28 |
bjoe | did you upgrade to quantal? | 01:29 |
thompa | i think you did the right thing | 01:29 |
thompa | yes | 01:29 |
bjoe | i tried that from a terminal with my messed up 12.04 and it wouldn't upgrade. I was stuck in every direction I tried | 01:29 |
bjoe | rebooting | 01:30 |
thompa | ubuntu made a mistake with the rythmbox autoplay feature. I cant ever find it and if volume control is missing you got to reopen it | 01:31 |
thompa | its a left over from unity and studio should dump this | 01:31 |
bjoe | i've not ever run it | 01:31 |
thompa | what do you use for making music? | 01:32 |
bjoe | i mostly use pure data. i have been wanting to find a good midi sequencer but my pure data patch is so big it takes all the processing power that my desktop has | 01:32 |
bjoe | i think that non sequencer might work. qtractor and muse are great but they crash a lot | 01:33 |
thompa | ardour crashes often here | 01:34 |
bjoe | yes it booted | 01:34 |
thompa | but its fun because there are lots of programs to choose from | 01:34 |
bjoe | ardour worked great for me just recording tracks | 01:34 |
thompa | I meant openshot crashes | 01:35 |
bjoe | they were supposed to add midi but I didnht see it last time i looked | 01:35 |
thompa | i was making a music video | 01:35 |
bjoe | openshot did have some bad crashes for me too | 01:35 |
thompa | im stumped. I dont have the greybird style available. also no seperate menu entries for audio prod and so on | 01:37 |
thompa | im going to try a reboot after this. good luck bjoe | 01:38 |
bjoe | cool thanks | 01:39 |
bjoe | good luck to you too | 01:39 |
thompa | bjoe, i found the culprit. The studio meta package is not installing studio menu. I should file a bug | 01:42 |
Len-nb | The studio meta package should not have the menu in it. | 01:43 |
thompa | oh | 01:43 |
thompa | what about studio settings? | 01:43 |
Len-nb | That is in the ubuntustudio-default-settings package | 01:43 |
thompa | did not install from there | 01:44 |
Len-nb | It will only show if you have the ubuntustudio session though. | 01:44 |
Len-nb | It will not show on a plain xfce install. | 01:44 |
thompa | oh so maybe thats why no login splash | 01:44 |
Len-nb | or xfce session | 01:44 |
thompa | thats where im at. I went back and followed the help page instructions but it wont work | 01:45 |
Len-nb | The login screen is lightdm. | 01:45 |
thompa | cool. Thanks | 01:45 |
Len-nb | So lightdm would have to be setup to use the US theme. | 01:46 |
thompa | I think I went from ubuntu to xfce some time ago then studio | 01:46 |
thompa | but there is no command for ubuntustudio install | 01:46 |
thompa | i just installed studio menu and it unistalled the settings | 01:47 |
Len-nb | the ubuntustudio-menu package is not up to date. | 01:48 |
thompa | The following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntustudio-default-settings if I do studio menu | 01:48 |
Len-nb | It was for adding the menu to a gnome desktop... which is no longer used by anyone. | 01:49 |
thompa | any idea how to get to a ubuntustudio setup default | 01:49 |
Len-nb | I have always installed from ISO. I have not done the install from vanilla/whatever switch to studio. | 01:50 |
Len-nb | The idea is that the desktop of choice is installed and then the studio metas are used to install studio apps while keeping the desktop the same as install | 01:51 |
thompa | that would explain my problem. I should be able to go back to a basic ubuntu and install from here at least | 01:51 |
Len-nb | Things have kind of gone sideways since about 11.10 | 01:52 |
thompa | Len-nb, thats very interesting thanks. | 01:52 |
thompa | i am going to try and fix it without reinstalling | 01:52 |
Len-nb | It should be possible. | 01:52 |
thompa | I have had ubuntu on this for a couple years | 01:53 |
thompa | I think I need to reinstall some settings like gdm | 01:53 |
Len-nb | We don't use GDM anymore. | 01:53 |
thompa | oh great | 01:53 |
Len-nb | The ubuntu standard is lightdm now. | 01:53 |
Len-nb | I think all the ubuntus use that. | 01:54 |
thompa | thats right i remember that now | 01:54 |
bjoe | i think it's working great | 01:54 |
thompa | I was running debian stable before that | 01:55 |
bjoe | i can run my patch at least. just gotta either copy over the iem filters or grab the source and install them | 01:55 |
Len-nb | gnome2 is no longer being supported | 01:55 |
bjoe | looks like the only thing that is missing from a default install is the filters | 01:55 |
thompa | is the greybird style part of xcfe? I guess I should install that first | 01:56 |
Len-nb | Unity as a desktop is ok for consumer desktop use, but not for a workstation like studio. | 01:56 |
Len-nb | I think greybird is xfce, but I could be wrong. | 01:56 |
bjoe | video needs to be changes to 1360x768 in nvidia control panel, jack needs to use sb audigy instead of builtin, and keyoard set to no repeat | 01:57 |
Len-nb | I know we use it though. | 01:57 |
thompa | I dont like the music app being part of volume control. If you get a panel problem like i got | 01:57 |
Len-nb | I can understand. | 01:57 |
Len-nb | I think it is possible to not show that applet though. | 01:58 |
thompa | could not find the off switch and music was blasting in school | 01:58 |
Len-nb | Yuck | 01:58 |
thompa | the problem is that its worse when it runs in xfce like that | 01:59 |
Len-nb | What player are you set up for? | 01:59 |
bjoe | greybird is the default theme here on a fresh install of studio | 01:59 |
Len-nb | Studio defaults to audacious | 01:59 |
thompa | yes I got my laptop with studio beside me and am on big pc | 01:59 |
thompa | they are different :*) | 02:00 |
thompa | the menus and colrs are too | 02:00 |
thompa | *colors | 02:00 |
Len-nb | colours... where I come from. | 02:00 |
thompa | i am going to just install xfce first | 02:01 |
thompa | Len-nb, me too sometimes | 02:01 |
thompa | Len-nb, you in UK? chance of snow here in Memphis tonight. | 02:03 |
Len-nb | Canada, it is 2:03 AM in the UK... I am Vanacouver Island | 02:04 |
Len-nb | We had 3-5 inches of snow earlier. | 02:04 |
thompa | ive been there once nice place. | 02:06 |
thompa | Len-nb, so I am a little confused. is there no meta package that will work? | 02:06 |
Len-nb | We've been here about 6 years now | 02:06 |
Len-nb | It would take a collection of meta packages I think. | 02:07 |
thompa | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video | 02:08 |
thompa | sorry thats what the instructions say | 02:08 |
thompa | it may be I have to start from ubuntu and not xfce like i did a while back | 02:09 |
thompa | Im still not sure why the default menu does not show. There is some setting I need to change from | 02:10 |
thompa | i cant remember anymore | 02:11 |
thompa | gtk2 was reinstalled | 02:12 |
Len-nb | Just taking a look at our seeds... audio-common, audio-plugins, desktop, ffmpeg-common, font-meta, generation, graphics, photography, publishing, recording, video | 02:12 |
Len-nb | Those are what is in the seeds... | 02:12 |
thompa | also some kernel changes after xfce so I should reinstall studio and thats it | 02:12 |
Len-nb | then in desktop there is: ubuntustudio-desktop # metapackage for everything here | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (ubuntustudio-default-settings) | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (xubuntu-icon-theme) # to get elementary and elementary-dark icon themes | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme) | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (ubuntustudio-look) | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (ubuntustudio-sounds) | 02:13 |
thompa | it should be in desktop. thanks for the help | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * (ubuntustudio-wallpapers) | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * lightdm-gtk-greeter | 02:13 |
Len-nb | * plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio | 02:13 |
thompa | gtk-greeter is missing | 02:14 |
thompa | that helps | 02:14 |
Len-nb | ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme would be what sets the login screen. | 02:14 |
thompa | oh ok | 02:15 |
thompa | Len-nb, --reinstall of xfce4 then studio settings and --reinstall studio desktop worked | 02:21 |
thompa | I have my menu | 02:21 |
thompa | also terminal finally has a prompt | 02:21 |
Len-nb | Good, I going to eat now so I am gone for a while. | 02:21 |
Len-nb | *i'm | 02:22 |
thompa | Have a good holiday | 02:22 |
bjoe | thius thing is working great | 02:24 |
thompa | good for u. same here | 02:24 |
bjoe | great | 02:26 |
thompa | I had to do a --reinstall of packages | 02:29 |
thompa | I didn't think that mattered anymore | 02:29 |
onlyHuman | i just got a stupid little error from udisk2 and had to unsafely unplug and replug a thumbdrive. should i file a bug report? | 06:23 |
Len-nb | onlyHuman, that sounds familiar, there may already be a bug. | 06:54 |
onlyHuman | well ill add myself to the affected list thanx | 06:54 |
gartral | hey everyone, I got an android tablet yesterday for x-mas and I was wondering.. is there *Any* way to use it as a control surface with midi over wifi? and if so, what do i need? | 10:37 |
zequence | gartral: Don't know if anyone here has done anything with that. You could try #opensourcemusicians or #dataflow (where I know some people have been messing around with arm devices) | 10:57 |
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xgoo | hii all | 13:00 |
cfhowlett | xgoo: hey there | 13:04 |
cfhowlett | I saw your query about .mp3 to .ogg conversion | 13:04 |
cfhowlett | xgoo: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 file.ogg will do it in a hurry | 13:04 |
xgoo | em.. what the mean -i ? | 13:06 |
xgoo | -i = invert ? isn't it? | 13:06 |
cfhowlett | xgoo: no the -i would be "input" if my understanding of ffmpeg is correct | 13:06 |
xgoo | thanks.. | 13:09 |
xgoo | i see | 13:09 |
cfhowlett | file:///home/acerimmer/Desktop/ffmpegwiki.html | 13:10 |
cfhowlett | err, I tried to send the wiki file but no ... | 13:10 |
cfhowlett | anyway, the wiki has great documentation | 13:10 |
cfhowlett | Want the wiki? | 13:11 |
xgoo | send again.. i loss it :( | 13:12 |
cfhowlett | I think you have to accept/authorize for the transfer | 13:13 |
cfhowlett | it's a 19 k html file | 13:13 |
xgoo | i'm read the manual of ffmpeg .. :) | 13:16 |
xgoo | ffmpeg is a very fast video and audio converter that can also grab from a live audio/video source. | 13:25 |
xgoo | :) | 13:25 |
cfhowlett | yep. it's a nice little swiss army knife. | 13:25 |
drmacro | How do I change or add apps to the Applications Menu? | 19:25 |
Guest56851 | app menu -> settings -> main menu | 19:36 |
drmacro | Guest56851: app menu -> settings -> main menu no "main menu" on mine:-( | 20:39 |
Guest56851 | right click the menu -> properties -> edit menu | 20:40 |
len-dt | install alacart | 20:40 |
len-dt | Sorry alacarte | 20:41 |
len-dt | drmacro, ^^^ | 20:42 |
drmacro | Guest56851: That allows me to change the icon for the Apps menu or it's title | 20:42 |
drmacro | len-dt: saw that, figured there was a "native" way to do it. | 20:43 |
len-dt | It does less than many people want... | 20:43 |
len-dt | Well we added alacarte in 12.10 | 20:43 |
len-dt | You can hand edit the file(s) of course :) | 20:43 |
len-dt | What is it you want to achieve? | 20:44 |
drmacro | len-dt: I'm on 12.04, just wanted to add an app, EaglePCB for instance. | 20:45 |
Guest56851 | no option for edit? then yeah your gonna need to sudo apt-get install alacarte | 20:45 |
len-dt | When you install it should show up on it's own... if not the best way is to create a *.desktop file and add it to /usr/share/appliactiona/ | 20:46 |
drmacro | len-dt Eagle install too dumb...;-) | 20:47 |
len-dt | If you use alacarte to do it, you are stuck with it being in an "other apps" menu. | 20:47 |
drmacro | len-dt: so what files need editing? | 20:47 |
len-dt | which sub menu should it be a part of? | 20:47 |
drmacro | len-dt: since I have other electronics apps there is already an Electronics sub-menu | 20:49 |
len-dt | Wow really? I don't remember that one... I better ask which version of ubuntu you are using | 20:49 |
Guest56851 | damn shes good. one of my information security instructors died and i cant find any information on her on the internet | 20:50 |
Guest56851 | totally the wrong room >_< | 20:51 |
drmacro | len-dt: UBS12.04 with Kicad installed, I think it creates the sub-menu when it installs. | 20:51 |
len-dt | There is no eletronics section of the menu since about 11.10 in studio | 20:51 |
len-dt | Ah! | 20:51 |
len-dt | what is one of the other electronics SW you installed that already shows on the menu called? | 20:52 |
drmacro | len-dt: Visolate | 20:53 |
len-dt | try: ls /usr/share/applications/*visolate* | 20:53 |
len-dt | you should see something like visolate.desktop or something. | 20:54 |
drmacro | len-dt: aren't the .desktop files the actual launchers? for instance there is an EaglePCB.desktop in my Desktop folder | 21:01 |
Len-nb | drmacro, good you could copy that one in there. | 21:01 |
drmacro | but how does that get into the App Menu? | 21:02 |
Len-nb | by copying it to /usr/share/appliccations/ | 21:08 |
Len-nb | sudo cp -a EaglePCB.desktop /usr/share/applications/ should do it. | 21:08 |
* Len-nb is assuming you are already cd Desktop | 21:09 | |
Guest56851 | i still say you should "sudo apt-get install alacarte" to make this easier in the future | 21:10 |
drmacro | interestingly, I found the Edit Menu you mentioned earlier...but, after exiting it the Properties tab is grayed out and (after previously installing alacarte...it never showed up in the Apps Menu) | 21:12 |
len-dt | drmacro, once your *.desktop file in in /usr/share/applications/ the app should show up on the menu "somewhere". | 21:15 |
drmacro | so I copied the .desktop file, now EaglePCB shows up under Other. Also, if I go to App Menu>Settings>Main Menu the Electronics sub-menu doesn't show... | 21:15 |
len-dt | The trick is to edit the file till it goes where you want. | 21:15 |
len-dt | :) Ya I told you alacarte has limitations... | 21:16 |
drmacro | The .desktop file? It has nothing that would lead me to believe it controls it's own location in the menu | 21:17 |
len-dt | If you edit your *.desktop file you should see a line that says Categories. | 21:17 |
len-dt | That line determines where it sits in the menu. | 21:18 |
drmacro | no Categories line | 21:18 |
drmacro | I'll look at one from usr/share | 21:18 |
len-dt | Look at another desktop file for an example. | 21:18 |
len-dt | Preferably one that goes with the electronics part of the menu. | 21:19 |
drmacro | ok, copied the line from the kicad.desktop to EaglePCB.desktop, works fine. So what creates the categories that App menu displays? | 21:24 |
len-dt | There is a system template in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus | 21:32 |
len-dt | there are other menu stubbs in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/ | 21:33 |
len-dt | which is probably where your electronics menu is tacked in. | 21:34 |
len-dt | there is also a per user directory ~/.local/share/ where more *.desktop files may sit... | 21:36 |
len-dt | and ~/.config/menus/ | 21:38 |
len-dt | It is actually possible to put them in even more places... but those are the standard ones | 21:39 |
len-dt | alacarte deals with the ones in your home directory only. | 21:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | hello everybody | 22:07 |
Darkness_of_Time | does anybody here use music applications on ubuntustudio? | 22:09 |
zequence | Darkness_of_Time: I'd say that's what most people user Ubuntu Studio for :) | 22:16 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: I would like to ask about software synthesizers, such as (windows) vst instruments | 22:17 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: is there a reliable way to run this type of software on ubuntustudio? | 22:17 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: or... is there any kind of similar software for ubuntu studio? | 22:18 |
zequence | Darkness_of_Time: I don't use software instruments much, but I can tell you that there's at least two standard formats for on Linux. dssi and lv2. I think you can also use vst instruments, but how is not something I know. You might find more answers on #opensourcemusicians or #kxstudio (based on Ubuntu, with some vst enabled stuff in it) | 22:21 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: thanks a lot | 22:22 |
zequence | The only softsynth I use is hexter. It's a dssi instrument | 22:22 |
zequence | Can be run standalone, or loaded into one of the DAWS that support dssi instruments | 22:22 |
zequence | Darkness_of_Time: Hydrogen is a drummachine/sequencer, you might want to check out | 22:23 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: I'm just insterested in orchestral & piano soft synths... | 22:23 |
zequence | synths, or samplers? | 22:24 |
zequence | There's linux-sampler, and some sample libs | 22:24 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: this one, can load just soundfonts and gig files | 22:24 |
zequence | sonatina symphony library, and a couple of piano librariews | 22:24 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: sonatina is a sfz format | 22:24 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: what I mean | 22:24 |
zequence | linux-sampler can load sfz too | 22:25 |
zequence | I think | 22:25 |
Darkness_of_Time | zequence: is edirol orchestra, kontakt | 22:25 |
Darkness_of_Time | etc | 22:25 |
Darkness_of_Time | most likely linux-sampler can load sf2, gig and sfz | 22:25 |
Darkness_of_Time | I think you're right | 22:25 |
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Darkness_of_Time | zequence: which soundcard do you have installed in your system? is it necessary to have a good and expensive one? | 22:34 |
zequence | Darkness_of_Time: Depends on what you want to do with it. Expensive, no | 22:37 |
Darkness_of_Time | midi + audio editing | 22:38 |
Darkness_of_Time | this is what I need most | 22:38 |
Darkness_of_Time | for example... could I have good performance with a Sound Blaster Live? | 22:38 |
zequence | Built in audio devices may not be the best for low latency work, but it varies | 22:38 |
Darkness_of_Time | this is a really old card | 22:38 |
Darkness_of_Time | and... which sound cards have good performance regarding the latency? | 22:39 |
zequence | Most pci cards are ok. | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | such as Sound Blaster Live? | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | are you sure? | 22:39 |
zequence | I can't say. I don't have one | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | because for windows... | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | the latency performance | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | of this sound card | 22:39 |
zequence | Windows is different | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | is not very good | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | oh! | 22:39 |
Darkness_of_Time | really? so... it's a matter of drivers actually | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | I have also a EMU 0404 | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | is is compatible with ubuntustudio? | 22:40 |
zequence | the EMU should be good | 22:40 |
zequence | Is it a pci device? | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | I might try this one | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | yes | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | pci | 22:40 |
zequence | Should work fine | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | it seems | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | that... | 22:40 |
Darkness_of_Time | most likely | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | I should try something | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | as kxstudio for using my vst plugins | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | and install this EMU 0404 | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | as I understand | 22:41 |
zequence | Did you try asio4all on Windows with your SB card? | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | no | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | I didn;t | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | didn't | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | because | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | I have EMU | 22:41 |
Darkness_of_Time | and X-Fi platinum | 22:42 |
Darkness_of_Time | I uninstalled | 22:42 |
Darkness_of_Time | soundblaster live | 22:42 |
Darkness_of_Time | much time ago | 22:42 |
zequence | I would prefer the EMu device anyway | 22:43 |
zequence | The SB is not for audio production | 22:43 |
zequence | Darkness_of_Time: Did you install Ubuntu Studio yet? | 22:44 |
zequence | If not, try the live DVD first | 22:44 |
zequence | You can try the applications before installing | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | I haven't installed Ubuntu Studio yet | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | what I'm trying to do | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | this very moment | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | to install it as a virtual machine | 22:44 |
zequence | Don't do that | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | using virtualbox | 22:44 |
Darkness_of_Time | why? | 22:44 |
zequence | Audio performance will be very bad | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | oh | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | ... | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | so... | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | let me ask you some more questions | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | my computer | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | is | 22:45 |
zequence | Either burn a DVD, or create a bootable usb stick, and try it live, wihtout installing | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | an AMD 3000+ 64bit with dual core | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | 8 GB ram | 22:45 |
Darkness_of_Time | and let's say (I'll install) EMU 0404 | 22:46 |
Darkness_of_Time | this one... | 22:46 |
Darkness_of_Time | should have good performance | 22:46 |
Darkness_of_Time | right? | 22:46 |
zequence | As long as it's a PC, you'll be fine :) | 22:46 |
Darkness_of_Time | :) | 22:46 |
Darkness_of_Time | bye! | 23:01 |
Darkness_of_Time | thanks a lot | 23:01 |
Darkness_of_Time | ! | 23:01 |
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