[00:51] <thompa> i used the ubuntu to ubuntu studio upgrade method but missing studio login screen as well as volume control in panel. also windows theme is wrong
[00:54] <bjoe> I done this in ubuntustudio https://soundcloud.com/simp10plus/simp10plus13eighths-4bassnbeat
[00:56] <len-dt> thompa, There are some things in /etc that will not be upgraded by installing packages. The themes may be there, but the setting to select the theme would not be.
[00:56] <bjoe> i just installed 12.10 on sda1 and think i shoulda left  where to install the boot loader to sda instead of changeing it to sda1 because it boots up into  grub rescue
[00:57] <len-dt> thompa, have you installed ubuntustudio-default-settings?
[00:57] <thompa> len-dt, yea I figured. I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[00:57] <bjoe> i dont know what would be faster, figuring out how to fix or installing again
[00:57] <thompa> hmmm
[00:58] <thompa> I cant move my files to windows partition cause its too full so reinstall not option
[00:58] <thompa> len-dt, my terminal has no prompt either now
[00:58] <thompa> I think i need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop first
[00:59] <thompa> len-dt, there is no package called ubuntustudio-default settings
[01:00] <bjoe> reinstalling is what I have chose to do
[01:00] <thompa> len-dt, nevermind i found it
[01:00] <thompa> bjoe, for what
[01:00] <thompa> you should not have to reinstall
[01:00] <len-dt> thompa, I have personally never tried switching from vanilla to studio. So I am just trying to figure out what packages are all there.
[01:01] <bjoe> to get grub to boot the correct partition
[01:01] <bjoe> too late i allready started reinstalling
[01:01] <len-dt> bjoe, switching the place grub is installed is not that hard.
[01:01] <len-dt> OK
[01:02] <thompa> I think studio uses some xcfe stuff and i may have purged that too.
[01:02] <thompa> bjoe, is it the orger you want to change?
[01:02] <thompa> *order
[01:02] <bjoe> len-dt, getting me to figure out how to do it seems impossible i dont understand grub
[01:03] <len-dt> Ya, I can figure out the command, but the next time a new kernel comes in I am not sure it would stick.
[01:04] <thompa> bjoe, http://www.unixmen.com/grub-customizer-2-5-5-is-available-customize-grubburg-from-a-gui-interface/
[01:05] <thompa> thats the gui link. you can also do a grub reinstall
[01:05] <bjoe> thanks, I would have to reenter all the networking stuff to get online .
[01:06] <bjoe> i'm in the install now. I want sda1 to be where I install  ubuntustudio and i could care less about booting  sda2 or sda3
[01:07] <thompa> oh at the install ok
[01:07] <thompa> just do a custom install. the last option
[01:08] <bjoe> so do i select /dev/sda  as the place for the bootloader and then change /dev/sda1 to mount at /
[01:08] <bjoe> ?
[01:08] <thompa> there you can see the sds. delete or format sda1 and recreate
[01:08] <bjoe> i'm at the custom install
[01:08] <bjoe> yeah
[01:08] <thompa> yes
[01:08] <thompa> you got it
[01:09] <bjoe> what about the bootloader? last time i selected sda1 as where the bootloader goes and added the bootflag
[01:09] <thompa> leave the bootloader default i think its sda
[01:09] <bjoe> cool
[01:09] <thompa> no
[01:09] <thompa> it should be sda i think
[01:10] <bjoe> ok i did have grub bouncing around all over the place before with windows and a couplea linux partitions
[01:11] <bjoe> the boot flag was on the ntfs partition sda2 before should I change that back?
[01:12] <bjoe> i guess it doesn't matter
[01:12] <thompa> it does
[01:13] <bjoe> which partition does the boot flag need to be on?
[01:13] <thompa> ntfs will be detected so it should be sda
[01:13] <bjoe> ok i think if i leave sda as where the bootloader goes it should figure it out
[01:13] <thompa> if you go back a step what is the default?
[01:13] <thompa> yes
[01:14] <thompa> you got it
[01:14] <thompa> dont mess with it
[01:14] <thompa> only format sda1 of course /
[01:14] <bjoe> yes copying files now
[01:14] <thompa> all the other stuff will be detected.
[01:14] <thompa> well good luck
[01:17] <thompa> the ubuntustudio desktop meta package seems to be missing files. i am going to have to install all of it piece by piece
[01:17] <bjoe> cool it doesn't matter about the other partitions booting. the registry is screwed from some old trojan on windows and i got  my kernel and video adapter out of version sync  on the ubuntu. it's quicker to start over  but i have data opn both the other partitionsd that needs to be kept
[01:17] <thompa> ya you can pull that data over from studio
[01:18] <thompa> it will mount the others
[01:18] <bjoe> thank goodness.
[01:19] <bjoe> I'm hoping I can use the other ubuntu partition as a home mount point and just erase all the stuff i dont need
[01:20] <bjoe> thompa what are you doing ?
[01:20] <thompa> well that you could have assigned at the install
[01:21] <thompa> i have an old ubuntu system converting to ubuntustudio. It wont change the themes and missing stuff
[01:21] <bjoe> I can do that from gparted too cant I
[01:21] <bjoe> I had that happen once with gnome lost all the themes except the whited out one
[01:21] <thompa> it will have created /home already on sda1
[01:22] <thompa> I think ubuntu unity crap did something
[01:22] <thompa> you could use the extra partition as storage.
[01:23] <thompa> just leave your home call the other one data or backup or video
[01:23] <thompa> something like that.
[01:24] <thompa> you have some work cut out if you change /home i think. i cant remember
[01:24] <bjoe> don't you have to change to like xfce window manager or something to get the ubuntustudio theme?
[01:24] <bjoe> openbox is good to use with old systems
[01:24] <thompa> yea it uses a bit of both
[01:25] <thompa> i purged xcfe and them wont come back . it should with ubuntustudio install
[01:25] <bjoe> i don't know how to add entries into the logon thing but that would be the way to go like clone your xfce, gnome, cairo or whatever and then do openbox -replace
[01:26] <thompa> thats a cool idea.
[01:26] <thompa> my machine is pretty fast. 8 processors with nvidia
[01:26] <bjoe> dang
[01:26] <thompa> tor is it 6 sorry
[01:26] <bjoe> i guess you dont need openbox haha
[01:27] <thompa> something in the default install is not pulling in or replacing ubuntu
[01:27] <bjoe> mine is configuring boot loader
[01:28] <bjoe> runningf update-grub that is probably what i shoulda done but i think mine loaded grub1 or something
[01:28] <thompa> i found the quantal list of packages for studio so will have to just check all those
[01:29] <bjoe> did you upgrade to quantal?
[01:29] <thompa> i think you did the right thing
[01:29] <thompa> yes
[01:29] <bjoe> i tried that from a terminal with my messed up 12.04 and it wouldn't upgrade. I was stuck in every direction I tried
[01:30] <bjoe> rebooting
[01:31] <thompa> ubuntu made a mistake with the rythmbox autoplay feature. I cant ever find it and if volume control is missing you got to reopen it
[01:31] <thompa> its a left over from unity and studio should dump this
[01:31] <bjoe> i've not ever run it
[01:32] <thompa> what do you use for making music?
[01:32] <bjoe> i mostly use pure data. i have been wanting to find a good midi sequencer but my pure data patch is so big it takes all the processing power that my desktop has
[01:33] <bjoe> i think that non sequencer might work. qtractor and muse are great but they crash a lot
[01:34] <thompa> ardour crashes often here
[01:34] <bjoe> yes it booted
[01:34] <thompa> but its fun because there are lots of programs to choose from
[01:34] <bjoe> ardour worked great for me just recording tracks
[01:35] <thompa> I meant openshot crashes
[01:35] <bjoe> they were supposed to add midi but I didnht see it last time i looked
[01:35] <thompa> i was making a music video
[01:35] <bjoe> openshot did have some bad crashes for me too
[01:37] <thompa> im stumped. I dont have the greybird style available. also no seperate menu entries for audio prod and so on
[01:38] <thompa> im going to try a reboot after this. good luck bjoe
[01:39] <bjoe> cool   thanks
[01:39] <bjoe> good luck to you too
[01:42] <thompa> bjoe, i found the culprit. The studio meta package is not installing studio menu. I should file a bug
[01:43] <Len-nb> The studio meta package should not have the menu in it.
[01:43] <thompa> oh
[01:43] <thompa> what about studio settings?
[01:43] <Len-nb> That is in the ubuntustudio-default-settings package
[01:44] <thompa> did not install from there
[01:44] <Len-nb> It will only show if you have the ubuntustudio session though.
[01:44] <Len-nb> It will not show on a plain xfce install.
[01:44] <thompa> oh so maybe thats why no login splash
[01:44] <Len-nb> or xfce session
[01:45] <thompa> thats where im at. I went back and followed the help page instructions but it wont work
[01:45] <Len-nb> The login screen is lightdm.
[01:45] <thompa> cool. Thanks
[01:46] <Len-nb> So lightdm would have to be setup to use the US theme.
[01:46] <thompa> I think I went from ubuntu to xfce some time ago then studio
[01:46] <thompa> but there is no command for ubuntustudio install
[01:47] <thompa> i just installed studio menu and it unistalled the settings
[01:48] <Len-nb> the ubuntustudio-menu package is not up to date.
[01:48] <thompa> The following packages will be REMOVED: ubuntustudio-default-settings if I do studio menu
[01:49] <Len-nb> It was for adding the menu to a gnome desktop... which is no longer used by anyone.
[01:49] <thompa> any idea how to get to a ubuntustudio setup default
[01:50] <Len-nb> I have always installed from ISO. I have not done the install from vanilla/whatever switch to studio.
[01:51] <Len-nb> The idea is that the desktop of choice is installed and then the studio metas are used to install studio apps while keeping the desktop the same as install
[01:51] <thompa> that would explain my problem. I should be able to go back to a basic ubuntu and install from here at least
[01:52] <Len-nb> Things have kind of gone sideways since about 11.10
[01:52] <thompa> Len-nb, thats very interesting thanks.
[01:52] <thompa> i am going to try and fix it without reinstalling
[01:52] <Len-nb> It should be possible.
[01:53] <thompa> I have had ubuntu on this for a couple years
[01:53] <thompa> I think I need to reinstall some settings like gdm
[01:53] <Len-nb> We don't use GDM anymore.
[01:53] <thompa> oh great
[01:53] <Len-nb> The ubuntu standard is lightdm now.
[01:54] <Len-nb> I think all the ubuntus use that.
[01:54] <thompa> thats right i remember that now
[01:54] <bjoe> i think it's working great
[01:55] <thompa> I was running debian stable before that
[01:55] <bjoe>  i can run my patch at least. just gotta either copy over the iem filters or grab the source and install them
[01:55] <Len-nb> gnome2 is no longer being supported
[01:55] <bjoe> looks like the only thing that is missing from a default install is the filters
[01:56] <thompa> is the greybird style part of xcfe? I guess I should install that first
[01:56] <Len-nb> Unity as a desktop is ok for consumer desktop use, but not for a workstation like studio.
[01:56] <Len-nb> I think greybird is xfce, but I could be wrong.
[01:57] <bjoe> video needs to be changes to 1360x768 in nvidia control panel, jack needs to use sb audigy instead of builtin, and keyoard set to no repeat
[01:57] <Len-nb> I know we use it though.
[01:57] <thompa> I dont like the music app being part of volume control. If you get a panel problem like i got
[01:57] <Len-nb> I can understand.
[01:58] <Len-nb> I think it is possible to not show that applet though.
[01:58] <thompa> could not find the off switch and music was blasting in school
[01:58] <Len-nb> Yuck
[01:59] <thompa> the problem is that its worse when it runs in xfce like that
[01:59] <Len-nb> What player are you set up for?
[01:59] <bjoe> greybird is the default theme here on a fresh install of studio
[01:59] <Len-nb> Studio defaults to audacious
[01:59] <thompa> yes I got my laptop with studio beside me and am on big pc
[02:00] <thompa> they are different :*)
[02:00] <thompa> the menus and colrs are too
[02:00] <thompa> *colors
[02:00] <Len-nb> colours... where I come from.
[02:01] <thompa> i am going to just install xfce first
[02:01] <thompa> Len-nb, me too sometimes
[02:03] <thompa> Len-nb, you in UK? chance of snow here in Memphis tonight.
[02:04] <Len-nb> Canada, it is 2:03 AM in the UK... I am Vanacouver Island
[02:04] <Len-nb> We had 3-5 inches of snow earlier.
[02:06] <thompa> ive been there once nice place.
[02:06] <thompa> Len-nb, so I am a little confused. is there no meta package that will work?
[02:06] <Len-nb> We've been here about 6 years now
[02:07] <Len-nb> It would take a collection of meta packages I think.
[02:08] <thompa> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[02:08] <thompa> sorry thats what the instructions say
[02:09] <thompa> it may be I have to start from ubuntu and not xfce like i did a while back
[02:10] <thompa> Im still not sure why the default menu does not show. There is some setting I need to change from
[02:11] <thompa> i cant remember anymore
[02:12] <thompa> gtk2 was reinstalled
[02:12] <Len-nb> Just taking a look at our seeds... audio-common, audio-plugins, desktop, ffmpeg-common, font-meta, generation, graphics, photography, publishing, recording, video
[02:12] <Len-nb> Those are what is in the seeds...
[02:12] <thompa> also some kernel changes after xfce so I should reinstall studio and thats it
[02:13] <Len-nb> then in desktop there is:  ubuntustudio-desktop # metapackage for everything here
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (ubuntustudio-default-settings)
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (xubuntu-icon-theme)             # to get elementary and elementary-dark icon themes
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme)
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (ubuntustudio-look)
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (ubuntustudio-sounds)
[02:13] <thompa> it should be in desktop. thanks for the help
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * (ubuntustudio-wallpapers)
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * lightdm-gtk-greeter
[02:13] <Len-nb>  * plymouth-theme-ubuntustudio
[02:14] <thompa> gtk-greeter is missing
[02:14] <thompa> that helps
[02:14] <Len-nb> ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme would be what sets the login screen.
[02:15] <thompa> oh ok
[02:21] <thompa> Len-nb, --reinstall of xfce4 then studio settings and --reinstall studio desktop worked
[02:21] <thompa> I have my menu
[02:21] <thompa> also terminal finally has a prompt
[02:21] <Len-nb> Good, I going to eat now so I am gone for a while.
[02:22] <Len-nb> *i'm
[02:22] <thompa> Have a good holiday
[02:24] <bjoe> thius thing is working great
[02:24] <thompa> good for u. same here
[02:26] <bjoe> great
[02:29] <thompa> I had to do a --reinstall of packages
[02:29] <thompa> I didn't think that mattered anymore
[06:23] <onlyHuman> i just got a stupid little error from udisk2 and had to unsafely unplug and replug a thumbdrive.   should i file a bug report?
[06:54] <Len-nb> onlyHuman, that sounds familiar, there may already be a bug.
[06:54] <onlyHuman> well ill add myself to the affected list thanx
[10:37] <gartral> hey everyone, I got an android tablet yesterday for x-mas and I was wondering.. is there *Any* way to use it as a control surface with midi over wifi? and if so, what do i need?
[10:57] <zequence> gartral: Don't know if anyone here has done anything with that. You could try #opensourcemusicians or #dataflow (where I know some people have been messing around with arm devices)
[13:00] <xgoo> hii all
[13:04] <cfhowlett> xgoo: hey there
[13:04] <cfhowlett> I saw your query about .mp3 to .ogg conversion
[13:04] <cfhowlett> xgoo: ffmpeg -i file.mp3 file.ogg will do it in a hurry
[13:06] <xgoo> em.. what the mean -i ?
[13:06] <xgoo> -i = invert ? isn't it?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> xgoo: no the -i would be "input" if my understanding of ffmpeg is correct
[13:09] <xgoo> thanks..
[13:09] <xgoo> i see
[13:10] <cfhowlett> file:///home/acerimmer/Desktop/ffmpegwiki.html
[13:10] <cfhowlett> err, I tried to send the wiki file but no ...
[13:10] <cfhowlett> anyway, the wiki has great documentation
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Want the wiki?
[13:12] <xgoo> send again.. i loss it :(
[13:13] <cfhowlett> I think you have to accept/authorize for the transfer
[13:13] <cfhowlett> it's a 19 k html file
[13:16] <xgoo> i'm read the manual of ffmpeg .. :)
[13:25] <xgoo> ffmpeg is a very fast video and audio converter that can also grab from a live audio/video source.
[13:25] <xgoo> :)
[13:25] <cfhowlett> yep.  it's a nice little swiss army knife.
[19:25] <drmacro> How do I change or add apps to the Applications Menu?
[19:36] <Guest56851> app menu -> settings -> main menu
[20:39] <drmacro> Guest56851: app menu -> settings -> main menu no "main menu" on mine:-(
[20:40] <Guest56851> right click the menu -> properties -> edit menu
[20:40] <len-dt> install alacart
[20:41] <len-dt> Sorry alacarte
[20:42] <len-dt> drmacro,  ^^^
[20:42] <drmacro> Guest56851: That allows me to change the icon for the Apps menu or it's title
[20:43] <drmacro> len-dt: saw that, figured there was a "native" way to do it.
[20:43] <len-dt> It does less than many people want...
[20:43] <len-dt> Well we added alacarte in 12.10
[20:43] <len-dt> You can hand edit the file(s) of course :)
[20:44] <len-dt> What is it you want to achieve?
[20:45] <drmacro> len-dt: I'm on 12.04, just wanted to add an app, EaglePCB for instance.
[20:45] <Guest56851> no option for edit? then yeah your gonna need to sudo apt-get install alacarte
[20:46] <len-dt> When you install it should show up on it's own... if not the best way is to create a *.desktop file and add it to /usr/share/appliactiona/
[20:47] <drmacro> len-dt Eagle install too dumb...;-)
[20:47] <len-dt> If you use alacarte to do it, you are stuck with it being in an "other apps" menu.
[20:47] <drmacro> len-dt: so what files need editing?
[20:47] <len-dt> which sub menu should it be a part of?
[20:49] <drmacro> len-dt: since I have other electronics apps there is already an Electronics sub-menu
[20:49] <len-dt> Wow really? I don't remember that one... I better ask which version of ubuntu you are using
[20:50] <Guest56851> damn shes good. one of my information security instructors died and i cant find any information on her on the internet
[20:51] <Guest56851> totally the wrong room   >_<
[20:51] <drmacro> len-dt: UBS12.04 with Kicad installed, I think it creates the sub-menu when it installs.
[20:51] <len-dt> There is no eletronics section of the menu since about 11.10 in studio
[20:51] <len-dt> Ah!
[20:52] <len-dt> what is one of the other electronics SW you installed that already shows on the menu called?
[20:53] <drmacro> len-dt: Visolate
[20:53] <len-dt> try: ls /usr/share/applications/*visolate*
[20:54] <len-dt> you should see something like visolate.desktop or something.
[21:01] <drmacro> len-dt: aren't the .desktop files the actual launchers?  for instance there is an EaglePCB.desktop in my Desktop folder
[21:01] <Len-nb> drmacro, good you could copy that one in there.
[21:02] <drmacro> but how does that get into the App Menu?
[21:08] <Len-nb> by copying it to /usr/share/appliccations/
[21:08] <Len-nb> sudo cp -a  EaglePCB.desktop /usr/share/applications/ should do it.
[21:09]  * Len-nb is assuming you are already cd Desktop
[21:10] <Guest56851> i still say you should "sudo apt-get install alacarte" to make this easier in the future
[21:12] <drmacro> interestingly, I found the Edit Menu you mentioned earlier...but, after exiting it the Properties tab is grayed out and (after previously installing alacarte...it never showed up in the Apps Menu)
[21:15] <len-dt> drmacro, once your *.desktop file in in /usr/share/applications/ the app should show up on the menu "somewhere".
[21:15] <drmacro> so I copied the .desktop file, now EaglePCB shows up under Other. Also, if I go to App Menu>Settings>Main Menu  the Electronics sub-menu doesn't show...
[21:15] <len-dt> The trick is to edit the file till it goes where you want.
[21:16] <len-dt>  :) Ya I told you alacarte has limitations...
[21:17] <drmacro> The .desktop file? It has nothing that would lead me to believe it controls it's own location in the menu
[21:17] <len-dt> If you edit your *.desktop file you should see a line that says Categories.
[21:18] <len-dt> That line determines where it sits in the menu.
[21:18] <drmacro> no Categories line
[21:18] <drmacro> I'll look at one from usr/share
[21:18] <len-dt> Look at another desktop file for an example.
[21:19] <len-dt> Preferably one that goes with the electronics part of the menu.
[21:24] <drmacro> ok, copied the line from the kicad.desktop to EaglePCB.desktop, works fine. So what creates the categories that App menu displays?
[21:32] <len-dt> There is a system template in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus
[21:33] <len-dt> there are other menu stubbs in /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/
[21:34] <len-dt> which is probably where your electronics menu is tacked in.
[21:36] <len-dt> there is also a per user directory ~/.local/share/ where more *.desktop files may sit...
[21:38] <len-dt> and ~/.config/menus/
[21:39] <len-dt> It is actually possible to put them in even more places... but those are the standard ones
[21:40] <len-dt> alacarte deals with the ones in your home directory only.
[22:07] <Darkness_of_Time> hello everybody
[22:09] <Darkness_of_Time> does anybody here use music applications on ubuntustudio?
[22:16] <zequence> Darkness_of_Time: I'd say that's what most people user Ubuntu Studio for :)
[22:17] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: I would like to ask about software synthesizers, such as (windows) vst instruments
[22:17] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: is there a reliable way to run this type of software on ubuntustudio?
[22:18] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: or... is there any kind of similar software for ubuntu studio?
[22:21] <zequence> Darkness_of_Time: I don't use software instruments much, but I can tell you that there's at least two standard formats for on Linux. dssi and lv2. I think you can also use vst instruments, but how is not something I know. You might find more answers on #opensourcemusicians or #kxstudio (based on Ubuntu, with some vst enabled stuff in it)
[22:22] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: thanks a lot
[22:22] <zequence> The only softsynth I use is hexter. It's a dssi instrument
[22:22] <zequence> Can be run standalone, or loaded into one of the DAWS that support dssi instruments
[22:23] <zequence> Darkness_of_Time: Hydrogen is a drummachine/sequencer, you might want to check out
[22:23] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: I'm just insterested in orchestral & piano soft synths...
[22:24] <zequence> synths, or samplers?
[22:24] <zequence> There's linux-sampler, and some sample libs
[22:24] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: this one, can load just soundfonts and gig files
[22:24] <zequence> sonatina symphony library, and a couple of piano librariews
[22:24] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: sonatina is a sfz format
[22:24] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: what I mean
[22:25] <zequence> linux-sampler can load sfz too
[22:25] <zequence> I think
[22:25] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: is edirol orchestra, kontakt
[22:25] <Darkness_of_Time> etc
[22:25] <Darkness_of_Time> most likely linux-sampler can load sf2, gig and sfz
[22:25] <Darkness_of_Time> I think you're right
[22:34] <Darkness_of_Time> zequence: which soundcard do you have installed in your system? is it necessary to have a good and expensive one?
[22:37] <zequence> Darkness_of_Time: Depends on what you want to do with it. Expensive, no
[22:38] <Darkness_of_Time> midi + audio editing
[22:38] <Darkness_of_Time> this is what I need most
[22:38] <Darkness_of_Time> for example... could I have good performance with a Sound Blaster Live?
[22:38] <zequence> Built in audio devices may not be the best for low latency work, but it varies
[22:38] <Darkness_of_Time> this is a really old card
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> and... which sound cards have good performance regarding the latency?
[22:39] <zequence> Most pci cards are ok.
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> such as Sound Blaster Live?
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> are you sure?
[22:39] <zequence> I can't say. I don't have one
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> because for windows...
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> the latency performance
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> of this sound card
[22:39] <zequence> Windows is different
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> is not very good
[22:39] <Darkness_of_Time> oh!
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> really? so... it's a matter of drivers actually
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> I have also a EMU 0404
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> is is compatible with ubuntustudio?
[22:40] <zequence> the EMU should be good
[22:40] <zequence> Is it a pci device?
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> I might try this one
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> yes
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> pci
[22:40] <zequence> Should work fine
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> it seems
[22:40] <Darkness_of_Time> that...
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> most likely
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> I should try something
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> as kxstudio for using my vst plugins
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> and install this EMU 0404
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> as I understand
[22:41] <zequence> Did you try asio4all on Windows with your SB card?
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> no
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> I didn;t
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> didn't
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> because
[22:41] <Darkness_of_Time> I have EMU
[22:42] <Darkness_of_Time> and X-Fi platinum
[22:42] <Darkness_of_Time> I uninstalled
[22:42] <Darkness_of_Time> soundblaster live
[22:42] <Darkness_of_Time> much time ago
[22:43] <zequence> I would prefer the EMu device anyway
[22:43] <zequence> The SB is not for audio production
[22:44] <zequence> Darkness_of_Time: Did you install Ubuntu Studio yet?
[22:44] <zequence> If not, try the live DVD first
[22:44] <zequence> You can try the applications before installing
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> I haven't installed Ubuntu Studio yet
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> what I'm trying to do
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> this very moment
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> to install it as a virtual machine
[22:44] <zequence> Don't do that
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> using virtualbox
[22:44] <Darkness_of_Time> why?
[22:45] <zequence> Audio performance will be very bad
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> oh
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> ...
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> so...
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> let me ask you some more questions
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> my computer
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> is
[22:45] <zequence> Either burn a DVD, or create a bootable usb stick, and try it live, wihtout installing
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> an AMD 3000+ 64bit with dual core
[22:45] <Darkness_of_Time> 8 GB ram
[22:46] <Darkness_of_Time> and let's say (I'll install) EMU 0404
[22:46] <Darkness_of_Time> this one...
[22:46] <Darkness_of_Time> should have good performance
[22:46] <Darkness_of_Time> right?
[22:46] <zequence> As long as it's a PC, you'll be fine :)
[22:46] <Darkness_of_Time> :)
[23:01] <Darkness_of_Time> bye!
[23:01] <Darkness_of_Time> thanks a lot
[23:01] <Darkness_of_Time> !