[10:47] <riderplus> after updating my system (ubuntu 12.10 gnome 3 DE) the computer icon is not visible on my desktop. home folder, trash and mounted devices are. I tried gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop computer-icon-visible true but it gives me "No such key 'computer-icon-visible'
[10:48] <riderplus> I also tried with dconf, gconf and gnome-tweak=tool
[10:48] <riderplus> there is no option to make the computer icon visible on desktop
[10:48] <riderplus> not anymore
[10:48] <riderplus> how can I report this bu?
[10:48] <riderplus> bufg
[10:48] <riderplus> bug
[10:48] <riderplus> :)
[19:39] <TheLordOfTime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1094108  <-- misfiled?
[19:39] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1094108 in xorg (Ubuntu) "boot is slow" [Undecided,New]
[19:40] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Yeh probably, but tbh I'm not sure what the right package is
[19:41] <TheLordOfTime> nor I, nor am i even sure if its a bug at all.
[19:41] <TheLordOfTime> "slow boot" isnt always a bug.
[19:41] <penguin42> dunno, I've seen quite a few where it's some screw up and something ends timing out and eventually getting on with the boot
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> oh you know what
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> i think its a Wubi bug
[19:42] <penguin42> yeh seems likely
[19:42] <TheLordOfTime> try (hd0,0):ntfs5:wubildr
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> ntfs and wubildr
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> wubildr = wubiloader
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> so that's not an xorg bug at all
[19:43] <TheLordOfTime> what do we file wubi bugs as...
[19:44] <penguin42> I can't see any appropriate package
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> wonder if the release team or the dev team knows.
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> because its certainly not an xorg issue.
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> seriously, though, why do people do that... :/
[19:45] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: It *could* be an X problem, if the problem is that the delay is just waiting for X to come up
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> file bugs against some random package :/
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> true.
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> but i was commenting in general at least.
[19:46] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Ah well you get nagged if you file it against Ubuntu, so ....
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> i'd rather see it filed against Ubuntu than $randompackage
[19:46] <penguin42> nod
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> then at least i know it needs filing against the right package.
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> otherwise i assume its just xorg bugs.
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> or gedit bugs.
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> heck, i've even seen kernel bugs filed against nginx once or twice
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> or some other unrelated package.
[19:47] <penguin42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage  hmm
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[19:48] <penguin42> that says plymouth->xorg->linux depending on the stage
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> i think ubuntu-bug should say in its prompts "Please specify the package (if you're unsure, please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage): "
[19:48] <penguin42> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage#During_boot
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> ...
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> well then its xorg
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> BUT
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> isn't that specific to non-wubi installations?
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> wubi's an oddball thing, it should have its own bugs section IMO
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> its own dummy package called 'wubi'
[19:49] <penguin42> but is it actually a wubi bug or is that message just the last thing on the screen?
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> good question, i steer clear of wubi bugs though.
[19:49] <penguin42> nod
[19:50] <TheLordOfTime> the wubildr suggests they're using wubi
[19:50] <TheLordOfTime> which means it could be completely oddball
[19:50] <penguin42> yeh I agree
[19:50] <penguin42> file a bug against the which package instructions asking what to do with wubi?
[19:50] <TheLordOfTime> mhm.
[19:50] <TheLordOfTime> ofc, i could mail the mailing list and CC the dev/release teams.
[19:51] <penguin42> nod
[19:51] <TheLordOfTime> or go bonkers and ping -release -devel directly
[19:51]  * TheLordOfTime is about to go insane because of some kernel issue that is returning no useful information but segfaulting repeatedly
[19:52] <penguin42> more detail?
[19:52] <TheLordOfTime> meh screw it.  KERNEL REINSTALLATION TIME!  ;P
[19:52]  * hggdh wonders if TheLordOfTime is running raring and has a broadcom wireless chip...
[19:53] <penguin42> never heard of kernel reinstallation fixing anything
[19:53] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, precise, and IWLAGN-compatible chip.
[19:53] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, this is from a kernel upgrade
[19:53] <hggdh> lucky you, one less bug to worry about
[19:53] <TheLordOfTime> so i'm going to install the kernel prior.
[19:53]  * TheLordOfTime seems to have skipped two kernel upgrades :P
[19:54] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: What's segging?
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> i have a substantially old kernel still lying around, that should permit me to boot.
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> no clue
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> as i said no useful information'
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> this system's probably on its last legs anyways
[19:54] <penguin42> no, I mean what segs - any app or one in particular?
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> since its hardware is at least 5 years old
[19:54] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, doesn't even get to GUI, just up and panics
[19:55] <TheLordOfTime> and since i can't boot to get hte logs, i may as well hold it at the kernel prior
[19:55] <TheLordOfTime> oh hggdh you could answer: where do wubi bugs end up?
[19:55] <TheLordOfTime> stuff that seems wubi-specific :P
[19:56] <hggdh> I *think* there is a package for it
[19:56] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: https://launchpad.net/wubi
[19:56] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, because LP Bug 1094108 looks like a wubi thing and not necessarily xorg, regardless of what Bugs/FindRightPackage says.
[19:56] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1094108 in xorg (Ubuntu) "boot is slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094108
[19:57] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: I agree
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, so invalid against xorg and reassign to the wubi project?
[19:58] <hggdh> I think you can directly reassing
[19:58] <hggdh> reassign even
[19:58] <penguin42> but as I say, according to the 'finding the right package' xorg is possibly correct - which means that doc needs a better description
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> ... bah stupid timeouts.
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, can you send to the mailing list?
[19:58] <hggdh> penguin42: I also agree with that one :-)
[19:59] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Hey you started me looking at it....
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> okay, so LP's timing out now
[19:59]  * TheLordOfTime kicks LP
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, i can't access my email from here :P
[19:59] <TheLordOfTime> IRC, easy.  Email, hard.
[19:59] <penguin42> haha ok
[20:01] <TheLordOfTime> (I'm IRCing via my znc's server, SSH'd in and using 'irssi'... can't open gmail easily in CLI :P)
[20:03] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Wire mutt up to it!
[20:04] <penguin42> any w3m would probably do it....
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> true, but i can't splitscreen on putty :P
[20:04]  * TheLordOfTime is on a windows system sshing in to a linux system
[20:04] <penguin42> run screen
[20:04] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Well, you could fix that with wubi....
[20:05] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42, not my system
[20:05]  * penguin42 whistles innocently....
[20:05] <TheLordOfTime> and mentioning wubi... well... DANGER DANGER DANGER DANGER DANGER RED ALERT *BOOM*
[20:05] <TheLordOfTime> (you can tell i do not like wubi)
[20:08] <penguin42> given it's nvidia it may well be xorg....
[20:09] <penguin42> sent