[00:00] <nlux> ok my head hurts, what do I do? sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdg /media/x -o uhelper=udisks2,nodev,rw,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,utf8=1 will make /dev/sdg ro
[00:01] <seel> says no packages installed
[00:01] <Icct> ciao
[00:01] <SolarisBoy> have you tried the apt-get install -f?
[00:01] <seel> what's -f?
[00:02] <SolarisBoy> -f, --fix-broken
[00:02] <seel> so just type -f after sudo apt-get install basically?
[00:02] <nlux> rs [35405.308144] FAT-fs (sdg): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem welp
[00:03] <temoto> Hello. Suppose i run a project that was so lucky to arrive into Ubuntu packages and pkg maintainer is someone else. And while somewhat strange, the previous versions of Ubuntu like 11.10 ship with embarrassingly outdated versions of my project. Is there some kind of commonly recognized procedure to help to push bugfixes to older (but still "supported") packages?
[00:03] <kewfoew> so what is the best free irc client to use on ubuntu ???
[00:04] <temoto> kewfoew, xchat
[00:04] <SolarisBoy> seel: yep
[00:04] <kewfoew> xchzt
[00:04] <kewfoew> xchat
[00:04] <rats__> irssi
[00:04] <seel> how do I paste something in chat so I can show you exacty what Im seeing?
[00:04] <nlux> irssi <3
[00:04] <kewfoew> what is the command to get from the dep
[00:05] <temoto> seel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[00:05] <kewfoew> irssi, i fink ive used that before
[00:05] <SolarisBoy> you can install a utility to copy your output to a web posting . sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:05] <seel> yeah, I'm using irssi with this probelm I'm trying to solve and also trying to figure out bitlbee, but that's for later lol
[00:05] <rats__> easy free and light
[00:05] <SolarisBoy> seel: ^
[00:06] <kewfoew> how do i get irssi, sudo apt-get install irssi ???
[00:06] <SolarisBoy> yes
[00:06] <escott> brightspark, you could probably move the contents of HP_TOOLS into an extended partition or otherwise back it up and remove it
[00:07] <temoto> kewfoew, first you need to get used to apt-cache search
[00:07] <temoto> kewfoew, e.g.   apt-cache search irc client   would actually answer your first question.
[00:08] <temoto> kewfoew, it also shows 'proper' package name so then you know what to type into apt-get install.
[00:08] <DJHenjin> escott, to do a VM, i will have to install a GUI, right?
[00:08] <escott> DJHenjin, no
[00:09] <DJHenjin> ok, so what if i want to install windows into a VM on my server?
[00:09] <brightspark> escott, it's only 100 megs so I that should be reasonable.  Is anything on that partition likely to be non-functional as a result of being stored on an extended partition?  Lots of .efi files.
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> you could forward x for the gui parts
[00:09] <pewter_tao> any idea why you get "WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!" when sshing into the system you're sshing from?
[00:09] <SolarisBoy> or run a remote deskttop server embedded in the VM DJHenjin
[00:09] <escott> brightspark, efi files. thats strange. but since your partition table is msdos it shouldn't matter
[00:10] <kewfoew> ok temoto
[00:10] <DJHenjin> SolarisBoy, any suggestions on which VM software to use for this?
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> sure i like vbox - there are others kvm and so forth
[00:10] <escott> DJHenjin, you might be able to install windows in text mode, and then access it via some kind of VNC but it would be much harder
[00:10] <SolarisBoy> virtualbox that is
[00:10] <temoto> +1 to virtualbox and qemu
[00:11] <SolarisBoy> virtualbox lets you set up a rdp port on the VM easily and you cn do it all from the command line too
[00:11] <nlux> what the heck do I do with my mounting problem?
[00:11] <SolarisBoy> qemu im learning is super cool too
[00:11] <nlux> now it won't recognize the device as vfat
[00:11] <DJHenjin> SolarisBoy can you point me to a resource for doing this with vbox?
[00:12] <SolarisBoy> nlux: can there possibly be an issue on the device? like it's fs is corrupt or even mistaken fs type? are you sure there is no partition on that drive also? can you try sudo file -sL /dev/sdg
[00:12] <dr_willis> the vbox manual - is worth reading. ;)
[00:13] <brightspark> escott, okay, is there a 'proper' way to back up an entire partition that preserves it as exactly as possible?  I'd like to minimise my chances of wrecking the system.
[00:13] <nlux> SolarisBoy: /dev/sdg: writable, no read permission
[00:13] <SolarisBoy> DJHenjin: the vbox docs are good and i used this doc for writing a wrapper scrpt for building vm's http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html
[00:13] <nlux> SolarisBoy: /dev/sdg: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xb, starthead 2, startsector 8192, 7849984 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x0
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> nlux: can you do this parted -l /dev/sdg
[00:14] <escott> brightspark, you could make an image of the partition with dd. "dd /dev/sda# | gzip sda#.img.gz
[00:14] <SolarisBoy> nlux: with sudo.
[00:14] <nlux> SolarisBoy:  1      4194kB  4023MB  4019MB  primary  fat32
[00:15] <seel> paste.ubuntu.com/1468540/
[00:16] <seel> that's what it's saying
[00:16] <kewfoew> hmm, ive apparently install irssi and scripts etc BUT i cannot seem to find it on my comp ???
[00:16] <kewfoew> any ideas
[00:16] <nlux> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1468546/
[00:16] <Jordan_U> kewfoew: Open a terminal and run "irssi".
[00:16] <SolarisBoy> /dev/sdh1: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58, OEM-ID "MSDOS5.0", sectors/cluster 16, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 128, hidden sectors 10544, sectors 31323856 (volumes > 32 MB) , FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 15280, reserved3 0x800000, serial number 0x34333231, label: "USB20FD    " || not sure but mines look this
[00:17] <SolarisBoy> its a standard partition
[00:17] <nlux> SolarisBoy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1468546/ that's what I get for that device.
[00:17] <kewfoew> yeah cool, now i can ditch this smuxi, thanks
[00:17] <Jordan_U> kewfoew: You're welcome.
[00:17] <seel> I'm not sure what that means
[00:18] <nlux> SolarisBoy: any ideas? :(
[00:18] <SolarisBoy> does the device work anywhere else?
[00:18] <brightspark> thanks escott
[00:18] <nlux> it works on my phone..
[00:18] <nlux> and it works on a windows machine
[00:19] <SolarisBoy> nlux: can i see your mount options again?
[00:19] <seel> I have no idea what that means for getting wine installed, honestly
[00:19] <nlux> rw,uid=1000,gid=1000 (I've checked my user and group id's)
[00:20] <zvacet> I can not  start radiotray in unity  any help
[00:20] <SolarisBoy> nlux can you try this first - umount it, and mount -o rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,gid=100,dmask=000,fmask=111,utf8,flush /dev/sdg /path/to/mount
[00:20] <nlux> trying thanks SolarisBoy
[00:21] <nlux> SolarisBoy: I must add -t vfat, but it doesn't recognize it as a vfat :<
[00:21] <SolarisBoy> k i guess
[00:22] <nlux> any ideas ?
[00:22]  * nlux sighs.
[00:23] <kewfoew> so how do i join this channel on irssi - join #ubuntu ???
[00:23] <nlux> SolarisBoy: [36600.983928] FAT-fs (sdg): bogus number of reserved sectors [36600.983942] FAT-fs (sdg): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[00:23] <seel> yes
[00:23] <SolarisBoy> yep
[00:24] <kewfoew> hmm not working
[00:24] <SolarisBoy> can you try to put the -t vfat in front of the mount options ?
[00:24] <nlux> kewfoew: /connect irc.freenode.net /join #ubuntu
[00:25] <nlux> SolarisBoy: Same..
[00:25] <SolarisBoy> heh
[00:25] <kewfoew> ok
[00:25] <rats__> rssi --nick  yournick
[00:26] <Jordan_U> nlux: Have you tried fsck.vfat yet?
[00:26] <nlux> Jordan_U: mount: unknown filesystem type 'fsck.vfat'
[00:26] <nlux> oh
[00:26] <nlux> I'm so dumb
[00:27] <SolarisBoy> yea i was just going to say try that
[00:27] <lkcjdwh> job done
[00:28] <lkcjdwh> sorted nlux thanks
[00:28] <nlux> Jordan_U, SolarisBoy: dosfsck 3.0.13, 30 Jun 2012, FAT32, LFN Logical sector size is zero.
[00:31] <nlux> welp
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> nlux maybe you should check this outhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/147228/how-to-repair-a-corrupted-fat32-file-system
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> it seems the drive or fs is faulted
[00:31] <nlux> thanks I guess :'(
[00:31] <SolarisBoy> dont cry
[00:32] <kewfoew> sorted nlux thanks, while irssi looks nice and light i think im going to keep using this smuxi as i can use numerous tabs
[00:33] <nlux> kewfoew:  whatever suits you the best :3
[00:33] <kewfoew> i paid £10 for a irc a couple of years ago, anyone any idea what it might be called ?
[00:33] <kewfoew> nlux - yeah
[00:33] <nlux> mIRC?
[00:33] <kewfoew> BINGO
[00:33] <kewfoew> exactly what it was
[00:33] <nlux> waste of money though..
[00:33] <rats__> sorry for the poor exp on irrsi but if you do learn it it is good
[00:34]  * nlux sighs
[00:35] <nlux> SolarisBoy: I think I'm pretty much going to ragequit, backup and format as fat32, will that still work on my phone?
[00:35] <kewfoew> rats - no i like it but i just feel being new to irc, again,im better off re-learning on smuxi
[00:36] <kewfoew> nlux-yeah a waste of £
[00:36] <nlux> guess I've got nothing to lose if I try.
[00:36] <seel> isn't irssi and something else the top of the list for irc or something?
[00:36] <rats__> never tried smuxi is it different
[00:36] <nlux> kewfoew: kvirc is also sweet and userfriendly, also opensource..
[00:37] <lcabreza2> hi guys, after unexpected shutdown, lost my specific tomboy notes how do i recover it. i found my folder where the backup is but i can't open th e.note file
[00:37] <nlux> hi lux_ :3
[00:37] <lux_> woha nlux
[00:37] <dr_willis> ive gotten where i perfer weechat over irssi these days. ;)
[00:37] <lux_> do you even exist?
[00:37] <Khaos> so how does the workspace switcher work excatly?
[00:38] <nlux> :3
[00:38] <jlotonah1> wtf
[00:39] <kewfoew> im kinda new to it all but its seems good
[00:39] <kewfoew> and free
[00:39] <nlux> SolarisBoy: oh I have one messy folder
[00:39] <nlux> ºç╣┘δt:. ┴
[00:39] <DaemonicApathy> Khaos, it allows you to switch workspaces.
[00:39] <nlux> windows seems to get along with it though
[00:39] <dr_willis> Khaos:  huh? You click on it.. it shows all the workspaces...  ;)
[00:40] <DaemonicApathy> Khaos: Or drag windows to other workspaces...or show off in a multi-workspace screenshot...
[00:40] <nlux> dr_willis, SolarisBoy: thanks, it seemed it was a device issue rather than an ubuntu issue,
[00:41] <Khaos> yes yes i know that lol sorry probably a poor phrasing. Is it adjustable/changable? meaning, can is it turn off/on-able, or is it permenntly on?
[00:41] <DaemonicApathy> Khaos: it is configurable with compizconfig-settings-manager, or you can just right-click to remove it from the dash, iirc.
[00:41] <Khaos> and can you alter how many work spaces are "up" at any one time? Instead of 4, could i run say 2 or 6?
[00:43] <Khaos> excuse the retardedness of this question.. but what is the compizcongfig-settings-manager?
[00:43] <DaemonicApathy> It is the Settings Manager that lets you configure Compiz.
[00:43] <nlux> Khaos a settings manager for compiz.
[00:43] <DaemonicApathy> Not installed by default, though.
[00:43] <Khaos> ahh okay. google has?
[00:44] <DaemonicApathy> apt-get has
[00:44] <DaemonicApathy> Or, for info, look it up in the software center.
[00:45] <Khaos> Got it, thank ya fer helpin' the newb along :)
[00:47] <nlux> guys, what is this? I don't even.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1468574/
[00:47] <Khaos> looks like it is in use?
[00:47] <christttt> poop
[00:48] <Khaos> that would be my under educated guess
[00:48] <nlux> thanks :3
[00:48] <Khaos> o7 notta problem at all.
[00:49] <darkhalo117> I just installed alsa for my audio drivers but I cannot manage the volume. Anybody know how I can fix this?
[00:49] <nlux> welp destination is still read only
[00:50] <kewfoew> installed KVirc can't get it too connect to a channel
[00:50] <nlux> destination will always be readonly
[00:50]  * nlux sighs
[00:50] <darkhalo117> When I run aplay /file/ it works
[00:50] <kashkraft> @darkhalo17 in a terminal type alsamixer
[00:51] <darkhalo117> Damn
[00:51] <nlux> kewfoew: /server irc.freenode.net /connect #ubuntu
[00:51] <kewfoew> figured it out
[00:51] <darkhalo117> That was too easy
[00:52] <kewfoew> new name will be tt079
[00:52] <kashkraft> @darkhalo17 :) glad it worked
[00:52] <TT079> hey
[00:52] <TT079> this one is sweeeeeet
[00:53]  * nlux cries
[00:53] <darkhalo117> Know a way I could get the media keys (f9 and f10) to work with alsa?
[00:53] <nlux> for the love of read write memory cards, how do I make it work?
[00:54] <Khaos> what are you doing nlux?
[00:54] <shakaponk> hey guyz, i got a virtual box ubuntu on a regular ubuntu, as expected the damn folder sharing doesnt work, i want to set up nfs. but as my machine is not plugged a network cable the eth0 is disabled. cant enable it...
[00:54] <nlux> Khaos: trying to copy documents to a phone.
[00:54] <Khaos> your running vbox right shakaponk?
[00:54] <Khaos> oh
[00:54] <shakaponk> Khaos: exactly
[00:54] <seel> bbl
[00:55] <Khaos> shakaponk, right click on the unit when in the screen for vbox. where you load the system? Right click on the ubuntu client that you are boxing, go to props.
[00:55] <Khaos> inside under network, change it to internal
[00:55] <Khaos> nlux, are you going from comp to phone, or phone to comp?
[00:56] <shakaponk> Khaos: so under network settings set to internal?
[00:56] <nlux> comp to phone.. that's why i need rw ;-;
[00:56] <Khaos> yes
[00:56] <Khaos> should work, does for me.
[00:56] <Khaos> yer i read what you said nlux right after i hit enter.. my brain feels so smart now.. lol
[00:57] <Khaos> is it the base card that came with the phone?
[00:57] <dante123> hi all, wifi was working but not wired connection....had to run some modprobe commands and now both are working...but when I reboot...I lose wired again.  What do I need to do to make setup permanent?
[00:57] <nlux> it's just a microSD..
[00:58] <nlux> I guess fat32 and ntfs are simply not meant for linux ;-;
[00:59] <dr_willis> nlux:  ive no issues with them here
[00:59] <nlux> dr_willis: mine was damaged, but even after formating as fat32 on ubuntu it wouldn't work ;-;
[01:00] <Khaos> make sure that its actually allowed to write to the folder
[01:00] <Khaos> if the folder only has read - only auth..
[01:00] <nlux> dr_willis: and crazy, it will work on windows... but the time to power on a machine just for a basic cp :'(
[01:00] <RollinV2> nlux modern linux distros should have no problem out of the box reading and writing to fat32 and nfts drives
[01:01] <zilla> how can i figure out which partition my current system is on
[01:01] <nlux> RollinV2 3.5 here
[01:01] <zilla> sirs
[01:01] <zilla> and madames
[01:01] <nlux> RollinV2: still having problems
[01:01] <lordjoe> hi I am trying to install ubuntu on a dual boor box with windows and cannot get it to boot - can anyone help
[01:01] <RollinV2> lol
[01:02] <zilla> surely
[01:02] <dman7> he
[01:02] <dman7> hey
[01:02] <dman7> hey. I've noticed /etc/inittab defines respawn on linux services in run levels 2,3,4,5 [Debian system, fwiw]. Any reason why run levels 0,1 and 6 are excluded?
[01:02] <zilla> someone knows how to figure out which partion ubuntu is on
[01:03] <dr_willis> zilla:  look at fdisk -l output to see what partions are linux ones..
[01:03] <dowdyph0> solitude88 hi again
[01:03] <dr_willis> zilla:  if need be - mount htem and look at teh conents
[01:03] <Khaos> ^da
[01:03] <solitude88> Hey dowdyph0
[01:03] <dr_willis> dman7:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevels in that way
[01:03] <dr_willis> !runlevels
[01:03] <dante123> hi all, wifi was working but not wired connection....had to run some modprobe commands and now both are working...but when I reboot...I lose wired again.  What do I need to do to make setup permanent?
[01:04] <dr_willis> 6 = the reboot runlevel - i belive.  i forget about the others. ;)
[01:04]  * kashkraft_ testing NickServ
[01:05] <dman7> oh heh, apologies, for some reason I thought i was on #linux
[01:05] <nlux> welp
[01:06] <zilla> dr_willis:
[01:06] <zilla> i figured it out with df
[01:06] <zilla> thanks
[01:06] <Khaos> dante123: go to network > edit > wired > add > enter information
[01:06] <zilla> anyway
[01:06] <detrimental> had problems with setting up a home server using ubuntu server 12.4 with ssh. trying a fresh install now.
[01:06] <dman7> thanks for your help!
[01:06] <zilla> next question: what is the best way to remove a partition of another ubuntu I no longer need to free up space
[01:07] <Khaos> Format disk is pretty much amazing, but not really what i would do if you like what you have...
[01:10] <nlux> !oneiric
[01:10] <veryhappy> hi guys, i have something really strange going on here. i have installed ubuntu on gpt and since then i don't have a network connection anymore? it's very unlogical, but when i used the mbr i had a full functioning network connection on the live cd and on my local installed system but now i don't get any network connection anymore, very strange, help is appreciated.
[01:12] <veryhappy> sorry crashed
[01:12] <Khaos> veryhappy i will say i do not know what might be with your network itself.. i would say try and handjam in the numbers and letters to your network properties
[01:13] <Khaos> that would be my suggestion, see if that forces a registration
[01:13] <donnie> Awesome question, for you awesome people
[01:14] <veryhappy> Khaos: it doesn't force any registration i built that network up, and it's a home network,  i definitely set it up for myself, hmmm then it's really strange
[01:14] <nlux> o boi, I inserted another fat32 device... that won't also work.
[01:14] <nlux> :'(
[01:14] <Khaos> nlux: lol again?
[01:14] <donnie> I'm having problems with Ubuntu. So I'm thinking of installing the Xubuntu-Desktop which in turn turns Ubuntu into Xubuntu. Would it then be safe to just remove the Gnome? And basically 'convert' my system to xubuntu that way? :D
[01:15] <nlux> can't get write privileges on any vfat device at all
[01:15]  * nlux cries
[01:15] <Khaos> veryhappy: what i mean is enter the MAC address of your cable into the unit and manually the IPv4 or 6 whatever you are running
[01:15] <Khaos> nlux: do those devices have permission
[01:16] <nlux> Khaos: It's driver related issue I don't think it has anything to do with my poor fat devices ;-;
[01:17] <Khaos> nlux: take them to the gym, maybe then it will fit into port more willingly :D
[01:17] <veryhappy> Khaos: i think i found the solution, but now i got the new issue, that my network always shows something like a waiting animation for a few times and then it says, "you're not connected" and then it tries that again, always and always
[01:17]  * nlux cries
[01:18] <Khaos> veryhappy: you are running hardline right?
[01:18] <dante123> Khaos, the problem is I had to use the following commands....modprobe -r b44 b43 b43legacy ssb
[01:18] <dante123> modprobe wl and then modprobe b43
[01:19] <freud__> boa noite
[01:19] <veryhappy> Khaos: what do you mean with hardline, sorry?
[01:19] <dante123> to get wired and wifi to work at the same time (possible conflict in broadcomm) anyway, when I reboot....I have wifi but no wired...and have to run the commands again.  I want this change to stay permanently
[01:21] <Khaos> veryhappy: hardline is running the wire from router to computer
[01:21] <truongap> I have a problem when using dockbarx-mate, it's not working. I see the log file and it's show me like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1468628/. Someone help me, please!
[01:21] <Khaos> dante123: yes that will conflict, you have to make sure they are set up on completely different networks, otherwise they will overreach each other and drop
[01:22] <Khaos> make sure your subnet masks, if the same, fall into different sets
[01:22] <Khaos> if they are different, make sure that they are actually on different networks
[01:24] <Khaos> if your IP is 192.168.1.4 on a 255.255.255.224 subnet mask, then the next allowable address is going to be 192.168.1.33
[01:24] <Khaos> assuming the network starts at 192.168.1.0
[01:24] <veryhappy> Khaos: ok, got it, yea i'm running hardline. but that doesn't even make sense, i mean what it has to do if i use gpt or mbr with my network connection? it always tries to load the network and then it says after a while "disconnected, you are offline now!"
[01:24] <[1]Lordjoe> I need help installing ubuntu on a partition and getting it to boot alongside windows - even with grub it will not boot
[01:25] <Khaos> veryhappy: if it was wireless, then it was possible you were getting interference and could maybe have something wrong in the wireless sector, which its to be said, is not my forte. But as for hardline, go to your network settings and see if have conflict IP sets
[01:26] <veryhappy> Khaos: it's wired, i'll go check it out, but i don't understand why it doesn't work right now.
[01:26] <Khaos> neither do i mate, hence why i asked :)
[01:26] <Khaos> lol
[01:28] <Khaos> veryhappy: you can click the network settings button on your desktop and go to connection information
[01:29] <veryhappy> yea, strangely i have a network connection now, but it doesn't make a single ping at all
[01:29] <covi> Hi all. How can I add a 'startup application' in Ubuntu 12.04?
[01:29] <Khaos> covi: what do you want to add?
[01:29] <Khaos> what are you attempting to ping
[01:29] <Khaos> ?
[01:30] <Khaos> @veryhappy, that last was
[01:30] <veryhappy> Khaos: ping www.google.com
[01:30] <Khaos> veryhappy: try 8.8.8.84
[01:30] <Khaos> fuck
[01:30] <Khaos> try 8.8.8.8
[01:30] <Khaos> not 8.8.8.84, thats not what i want you to ping lol
[01:30] <Flannel> Khaos: Please mind the language, thanks.
[01:31] <Khaos> yer
[01:31] <Khaos> sry
[01:31] <veryhappy> Khaos: what's 8.8.8.8? i see now Destination host unreachable
[01:31] <DaemonicApathy> IP address for google.com is 173.194.75.103 - if that works, I would guess the DNS settings are incorrect.
[01:31] <xiamx> how to disable firewall completely in ubuntu 12.04 server? (it's a testing machine running in vmware so security is not a concern)
[01:32] <veryhappy> DaemonicApathy: that doesn't work as well
[01:32] <DaemonicApathy> xiamx: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-server-disable-firewall/
[01:32] <covi> Khaos: dropboxd
[01:32] <DaemonicApathy> veryhappy, sounds like you're connected to the network, but not the internet.
[01:33] <Khaos> covi: and you want to set it up to run when you start?
[01:34] <Tojamm> hi
[01:34] <veryhappy> DaemonicApathy: yea, that's what i don't understand. the router is 192.168.1.1 when i try to ping it, it says, destination host unreachable, when i try to ping 192.168.1.3 the computer it says , connection successful
[01:34] <Tojamm> is there anyone that can help me with an install issue on a Vaio SVS1511?
[01:35] <veryhappy> Tojamm: what do you have for a problem?
[01:35] <dowdyph0>  veryhappy route add default gw *
[01:36] <Tojamm> During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as the installer hangs.
[01:36] <Tojamm> I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging, i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work, i also made sure none of the partitions was mounted. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[01:36] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: that instruction hangs
[01:36] <veryhappy> ah unknown host
[01:36] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: what did you want me to do about the gw?
[01:37] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: sorry
[01:37] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[01:37] <veryhappy> ok
[01:37] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: that's your router right?
[01:38] <shakaponk> how can i install ubuntu command-line (minimal) don't have the option for that (installing in vbox)
[01:38] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: yea
[01:38] <shakaponk> ubuntu 12.10
[01:38] <dowdyph0> try to ping it now
[01:38] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: already tried
[01:38] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: would have been nice if it would work though
[01:39] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: do you have any iptables rule active?
[01:39] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: i made a fresh install, tried to install from the live cd and it already told me i have no internet connection, then i got it up and running now at least to get the ip address static but nothing more.
[01:40] <veryhappy> at this state i am right now
[01:40] <dowdyph0> you you are wire-connected
[01:40] <dowdyph0> the network interface is up right?
[01:40] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: yea it is
[01:41] <covi> Khaos: yes
[01:41] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: which network nic do you have?
[01:42] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: well the model?
[01:42] <dowdyph0> sudo lshw -class network
[01:42] <dr_willis> !minimal
[01:43] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: VT6102 [Rhine-II]
[01:44] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: sudo modprobe via-rhine
[01:44] <dowdyph0> sudo ifconfig eth0 down;sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[01:45] <Khaos> covi: type startup applications into the dashboard, click it, and then click add and then the programn
[01:46] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: something on here is really odd!
[01:46] <dowdyph0> :(
[01:46] <shakaponk> thx!
[01:46] <dowdyph0> do you have dhcp service in your router?
[01:46] <Khaos> that should be automated
[01:47] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: everything normally worked! until i decided now to use gpt and that's what i don't understand.
[01:47] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: sudo dhclient eth0
[01:47] <veryhappy> veryhappy: and i made a fresh new install of ubuntu and now it doesn't work anymore
[01:47] <veryhappy> crap
[01:47] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: I use gpt but it is nonsense
[01:47] <covi> Khaos: thanks, I was trying to look for this in the settings, but in vain. I remembered in older versions I could do that.
[01:48] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: yea that's odd, my talking
[01:48] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: you have fresh-installd in gpt?
[01:48] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: yea
[01:48] <Khaos> covi: not a problem mate, i learned something myself ;) i thought it was in the same spot this time as well.
[01:48] <Tojamm> During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as the installer hangs.
[01:48] <Tojamm> I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging, i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work, i also made sure none of the partitions was mounted. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[01:48] <dowdyph0> do you have any error in dmesg?
[01:50] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: dmesg | grep eth[0-9]
[01:50] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: gimme a few seconds buddy to check out if i get a network connection with the live cd
[01:52] <Tojamm> Its seams no one has any ideas on how to fix this install issue :-(
[01:53] <defile> Tojamm, what issue?
[01:53] <Tojamm> defile: During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as the installer
[01:53] <Tojamm> hangs. I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging, i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work, i also made sure none of the partitions was mounted. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[01:53] <thufir_> anyone familiar with DAR (Disc ARchiver)?  I seem to be having a syntax problem:  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2641
[01:54] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: same issue on the live cd though i don't understand it, the symbol looks like a wifi symbol though i have a wired connection and then i tries a few times to get a connection, breaks up and says "Disconnected - you are not connected."
[01:54] <defile> ahh
[01:55] <madinc> hi guys any of you use the xboxdrv?
[01:55] <defile> Tojamm, yeah, I don't know how to solve either
[01:56] <Tojamm> defile: Thanks anyway i have been stuck with this issue for over 2 weeks now, posted in askubuntu but no joy there either
[01:56] <defile> I have a UEFI capable host, but I've stuck to BIOS to avoid the drama
[01:56] <defile> Tojamm, is this on a Mac?
[01:56] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: make a pastebin of the ouput of this: dmesg | grep "\(wlan[0-9]\|eth[0-9]\)"
[01:57] <Tojamm> defile: no this is a Sony Vaio SVS1511
[01:57] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: i don't use wifi i already told you
[01:58] <dowdyph0> veryhappy: is for seeing the status of the link, of the wired and wifi
[01:58] <Khaos_> da woops
[01:58] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: whatever, tomorrow i'm going to reinstall the system on mbr, that's crap.
[01:58] <OerHeks> Tojamm,  maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI disable secure boot i guess
[01:59] <veryhappy> dowdyph0: i'm sorry that you couldn't solve the issue buddy, don't worry. i neither did understand what the hell is wrong with this crappy system.
[01:59] <dowdyph0> xDD
[01:59] <Khaos> question for someone who understands the IRCs
[02:00] <Tojamm> OerHecks: there is no secure boot on bios. also in order to avoid issues with EFi i use the 64bits version but still the dammn thing does not want to install lol
[02:00] <dowdyph0> good luck, I'm leaving
[02:00] <DaemonicApathy> !ask | Khaos
[02:00] <lamefun> how to verify download?
[02:01] <lamefun> Ubuntu doesn't seem very serious, no clear "verify download" button on download page, no GPG key over https, like in Fedora...
[02:01] <veryhappy> thank you guys
[02:02] <Jordan_U> veryhappy: I think that you are mistaking any corelation between using gpt vs an msdos label and any network settings.
[02:02] <Khaos> noted, i have joined #backtrack-linux, but keep being told when i try to talk in there, that it #backtrack-linux cant send in channel
[02:02] <Tojamm> lamefun you mean do a MD5Sum check?
[02:02] <lamefun> yes
[02:03] <OerHeks> Khaos, i think you need to register your irc name
[02:03] <OerHeks> !register
[02:03] <lamefun> Fedora provides checksums only over HTTPS, even...
[02:03] <Tojamm> lamefun: you in what OS now?
[02:03] <lamefun> Fedora
[02:03] <Khaos> Beans and bread. good to go, thank you OerHeks
[02:03] <OerHeks> !md5sum | lamefun
[02:04] <root__> hi
[02:04] <lamefun> ...
[02:04] <lamefun> is there something like https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify ?
[02:05] <OerHeks> Khaos, but the real BT support is on an other irc channel
[02:05] <b33nj> hi
[02:05] <Khaos> its giving me the same error
[02:06] <b33nj> hi
[02:06] <Tojamm> During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as the installer hangs.
[02:06] <Tojamm> I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging, i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work, i also made sure none of the partitions was mounted. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[02:06] <Khaos> whoa
[02:06] <freshstart> iam using linux mint 13 mate.when i change a theme it doesnt apply all the changes to caja,but it applies all the changes to nautilus,what can i do to apply it to caja?
[02:07] <zvacet> I ca not reboot or shutdown as admin user it brings me back to login screen
[02:07] <dr_willis> freshstart:  mint has its own support channels/servers.
[02:08] <freshstart> dr_willis: yeah i know i wrote it on both :D
[02:08] <freshstart> dr_willis: just in case
[02:08] <dr_willis> Your question dosent make much sence either.
[02:09] <zvacet> any takers
[02:09] <bambu> I started ddrescue on one disk, the disk is near capacity, could I continue ddrescue with a split image on another disk?
[02:09] <Dan39> problems with kwin and NX still not fixed.. :(
[02:09] <Noice_Creator> is it possible to set tty to 1920x1080?
[02:09] <Dan39> will it never be fixed in 12.04?
[02:10] <freshstart> dr_willis: when i change a theme the background color of the input box doesnt change in caja,its the default manager in mate so that's the problem
[02:10] <freshstart> dr_willis: but it works on nautilus
[02:10] <freshstart> dr_willis: but i dont know to change to nautilus because linux mint is based on caja
[02:11] <bambu> LOL I passed out for a few hours... back to ask the same question ;[
[02:11] <bambu> *;p
[02:12] <b33nj> where could i read something useful about ubuntu package management system?
[02:12] <dr_willis> Noice_Creator:  My Console is using 1920x1080 here. ;)  i dident have to set anything.
[02:12] <veryhappy> JUST TO GET BACK to the topic where we were, "A computer solves the problems that we wouldn't have without them.", take care guys, and thanks for trying to solve my gpt problem, take care
[02:12] <dr_willis> !apt | b33nj
[02:13] <bambu> I started ddrescue on one disk, the disk is near capacity, could I continue ddrescue with a split image on another disk?
[02:13] <b33nj> dr_willis: okay
[02:13] <lamefun> Why isn't there something like https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify ?
[02:14] <b33nj> !dpkg | b33nj
[02:14] <b33nj> !dpkg
[02:14] <dr_willis> bambu:  you were doing the rescue image to a partion? instead of a file?
[02:14] <OerHeks> lamefun, see the solution from ubottu a few minutes back
[02:16] <lamefun> can I verify hashes themselves?
[02:16] <Bluefoxicy> Is anyone using Puppet?
[02:16] <dr_willis> !info puppet
[02:16] <OerHeks> !hashes
[02:16] <dr_willis> never heard of it. ;)
[02:17] <Bluefoxicy> yes it's in main, but a package in Universe (puppetmaster-passenger) is kind of non-functional
[02:17] <Bluefoxicy> I filed a bug and want to know if anyone else has hit it so it can be marked Confirmed
[02:17] <seba_> Hello
[02:17] <OerHeks> lamefun, that was also mentioned in the url ubottu gave you
[02:17] <seba_> ;-)
[02:18] <zvacet> anyone willing to help about shutdown and reboot problem that I have
[02:18] <seba_> Guys do you know how to uninstall amd graphic drier?
[02:19] <seba_> driver*
[02:19] <bambu> dr_willis, I'm taking an image of a partition... I'm using an image so (hopefully) I can switch over to another disk now that this one is near full.
[02:19] <lamefun> ok, and how do I verify MD5SUMS.gpg -.-? why can't I download it with HTTPS at least?
[02:19] <dr_willis> bambu:  splitting the image across 2 hard drive? never seen that done
[02:20] <bambu> dr_willis, Really? Do you know if it is possible?
[02:21] <Bluefoxicy> it's possible but unstable
[02:21] <Bluefoxicy> if one disk goes, you lose the whole FS on striping, and half of it on JBOD
[02:21] <Bluefoxicy> and it's hard to recover when you have the beginning half of an FS missing
[02:22] <Dan39> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxfixes/+bug/985202
[02:22] <Bluefoxicy> see also:  why you should never, ever use RAID-5
[02:24] <dr_willis> I last used ddrescue to recover a 2tb usb hd... imaged it to a file on a 3tb usb hd.. ;) took like.. err.. forever. :) a few days.
[02:24] <dr_willis> but it did get everything recovered
[02:24] <Bluefoxicy> yeah for a failing clicky drive it will
[02:24] <Bluefoxicy> people use RAID-5 thinking it can't fail
[02:24] <dr_willis> and THEN the silly flakey 2TB started working again.... the load must of scared it into working.
[02:24] <bambu> dr_willis,  So buy another HD, and a SATA to USB?
[02:25] <bambu> No problems.
[02:25] <dr_willis> They have universial sata-ide-miniide -> usb adaptors for like $25 - a Great tool when you need it.
[02:25] <Bluefoxicy> the smallest R5 array is 3 disks, which is p^3 as likely to experience a disk failure, and (p^3)^(1/2) as likely to experience two
[02:25] <Bluefoxicy> so p^(1.5) times as likely ... more likely to experience 2
[02:25] <b33nj> are there any command line video players?
[02:26] <antonio_> hey folks...
[02:26] <dr_willis> b33nj:  mplayer can play to the console.. or use the ascci-out  option if you want ascii videos. ;P
[02:26] <antonio_> I'm using 10.04 right now..how can I upgrade to 12.04?
[02:26] <daftykins> dr_willis: that sounds interesting. i have a friends HDD who wants the same right now, but it just streams errors constantly trying to boot a liveCD, any ideas? that's with it direct attached via SATA
[02:26] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you can.. but it may be faster/easier to do a clean install.
[02:26] <b33nj> dr_willis: is ascii-out option in mplayer?
[02:27] <antonio_> dr_willis: how so?
[02:27] <dr_willis> b33nj:  if you want to see the video converted to colorized ansi/characters. ;) its a cute trick. but not  what most people want.
[02:27] <milamber> !upgrade | antionio_
[02:27] <dr_willis> antonio_:  last time i did a upgrade.. it took several hours.. vs a cleaninstall that took about 30 min.
[02:28] <b33nj> dr_willis: what about console music players?
[02:28] <dr_willis> b33nj:  mplayer used to be able to use the framebuffer console as a video output for playback.
[02:28] <antonio_> the only problem is I don't have any medium to do a backup wiht
[02:28] <dr_willis> b33nj:  dozens of them
[02:29] <dr_willis> !info mocd
[02:29] <dr_willis> Hmm what was that name...
[02:29] <dr_willis> !info moc
[02:29] <b33nj> dr_willis: okay
[02:29] <dr_willis> ive heard moc is nice
[02:30] <b33nj> once i tried to play an m4a file with it, but it couldn't open it
[02:30] <gllera> Hello, can I use a VPN only when I'm trying to access to a single ip instead of use it all the time?
[02:33] <Che-Anarch> Have they stopped doing ubuntu series with app's pre-packaged?
[02:33] <Che-Anarch> Like the torrent downloads 4gb+?
[02:35] <penguinman> Che-Anarch, you can download whatever you need through the repos, so not really any point in the everything but the kitchen sink spins anymore
[02:35] <b33nj> penguinman: hi
[02:35] <penguinman> b33nj, hello
[02:36] <b33nj> penguinman, i have downloaded the book you told me of
[02:36] <penguinman> b33nj, remind again which book that was?
[02:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[02:36] <b33nj> penguinman: bash oreilly
[02:36] <penguinman> b33nj, oh, gotcha
[02:40] <JAIME> question for the experienced linux users out there!! i have another computer that i am fixing for a friend, and he wants windows (fool i know!) but its a netbook, is there any program to make a bootable usb for windows in linux!??
[02:40] <b3nj> penguinman
[02:40] <dr_willis> JAIME:  the guys in #windows may know. I think theres some. but it may depend on the windows version
[02:40] <darkhalo117> I know there is an xp live boot you can get
[02:41] <b3nj> penguinman
[02:41] <dr_willis> Of course the legality and security of such things.. is well. questionable.
[02:41] <dr_willis> ive seen usb-windows on torrents. :) but thats getting OT for here.
[02:42] <b3nj> use only open source software
[02:42] <dr_willis> so its all about You now? ;)
[02:42] <mandrivaal> Hi. I'm running the wubi.exe installer on my 64 bit windows 7 Raid 0 configuration machine. is it going to screw things up?
[02:43] <dr_willis> mandrivaal:  best advice for wubi. i think is to avoid it...
[02:43] <b3nj> penguiman
[02:43] <mandrivaal> awe man
[02:43] <b3nj> dr_willis
[02:44] <mandrivaal> works on my laptop
[02:45] <b3nj> dr_willis: i am using lxde, but when i am in full screen mode in terminal i see 'file edit tabs help' menu sections on top. how do i remove them from full screen mode?
[02:46] <ClientAlive> what is the single best vnc for linux?
[02:47] <b3nj> help me
[02:47] <dr_willis> b3nj: try some other terminal emulator apps perhaps? what one are you using now?
[02:47] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  depends on your exact needs.
[02:47] <b3nj> dr_willis: lxterminal
[02:47] <dr_willis> b3nj:  i tend to use terminator
[02:48] <b3nj> dr_willis: how can i change font and its size in virtual terminal
[02:48] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I have a desktop and a laptop. The desktop is new and very powerful, the lappy is old and weak. It would be nice to run the stuff from my desktop but control it here on my lappy.
[02:48] <ClientAlive> I have like zero exper with this stuff though.
[02:50] <darkhalo117> Have you guys heard anything about running 12.04 on microsoft surface?
[02:52] <SecretFire> whats the difference between xfce and kde?
[02:53] <b3nj> names are different
[02:53] <SecretFire> they are just kernels?
[02:53] <b3nj> no
[02:54] <b3nj> they are desktop environments
[02:54] <b3nj> dr_willis
[02:55] <b3nj> can xfce be run on a netbook?
[02:56] <RollinV2> the question is not if it will run, but how well will it run
[02:56] <b3nj> so how well will it run?
[02:57] <bobweaver> RollinV2,  what notebook ?
[02:57] <b3nj> asus eee pc
[02:57] <bobweaver> sorry b3nj  ^^
[02:58] <OerHeks> XFCE is lighter than KDE, suitable for netbooks
[02:58] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  any vnc client/server can do that. If yo can see both pcs at the same time - look into synergy
[02:58] <b3nj> is XFCE lighter than unity?
[02:58] <OerHeks> b3nj, sure
[02:58] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: right on. thx
[02:59] <bobweaver> depends on what unity and what you are running xface is not that lightweight anymore
[02:59] <bobweaver> Hi ClientAlive
[02:59] <OerHeks> XFCE needs 512 mb, gnome/unity 1 gb and LXDE needs 256 mb
[02:59] <bobweaver> what about metacity what does that need ?
[02:59] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: eye bro. hows it going?
[02:59] <ClientAlive> merry christmas
[02:59] <b3nj> dr_willis: how do i change font and its size in virtual terminal?
[03:00] <b3nj> okay, i am going to install xfce instead of unity
[03:00] <bobweaver> ClientAlive,  good making settings for dash and launcher and what not. Hey thanks merry christmas to you also brother :)
[03:00] <OerHeks> XFCE is nice
[03:00] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: right on. dash is a shell?
[03:01] <b3nj> xfce looks like mac os theme
[03:01] <Pourya> Yeah I like xfce more than Ubuntu's new interface...
[03:01] <RollinV2> dash is an application launcher thats part of unity
[03:01] <DaemonicApathy> The Dash is part of Unity, which is a shell for GNOME.
[03:01] <bobweaver> ClientAlive, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQUQg44R6Y
[03:01] <bobweaver> DaemonicApathy,  or metacity
[03:01] <bobweaver> if 2d
[03:02] <b3nj> can somebody help me how can i change font and its size in virtual terminal?
[03:02] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough, bobweaver.
[03:02] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: right on. There's csh too (is it csh? corn shell? korn shell? - idk). ha ha
[03:02] <RollinV2> b3nj, it should be in settings. im running luna so i dont have the default terminal app to check
[03:03] <b3nj> RollinV2: i mean the terminal which is accessed by pressing ctrl+alt+f1
[03:04] <b3nj> what is the command for installing xfce?
[03:04] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: ohhh. I see...
[03:04] <Pourya> apt-get install xfce-desktop
[03:04] <OerHeks> b3nj, first answer from google > http://askubuntu.com/questions/173220/how-do-i-change-the-font-or-the-font-size-in-the-tty-console
[03:04] <Pourya> sorry xubuntu-desktop I think...
[03:05] <b3nj> OerHeks: okay
[03:05] <ClientAlive> aye bobweaver: do you do any work with uml?
[03:05] <b3nj> Pourya: does xfce come preinstalled in xubuntu?
[03:06] <Pourya> yes
[03:06] <Pourya> thats what I do
[03:06] <Pourya> I install xubuntu….
[03:06] <Pourya> if you install ubuntu then install xfce you will have so many applications with duplicate functionalities...
[03:07] <Pourya> its cleaner that way...
[03:07] <b3nj> Pourya: so should i try to install xubuntu?
[03:08] <Pourya> yes to get xfce thats the best option…
[03:12] <thufir_> anyone familiar with DAR (Disc ARchiver)?  I seem to be having a syntax problem:  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2641
[03:21] <b3nj> Pourya
[03:23] <b3nj> help me
[03:23] <bobweaver> what would all you say one *of the* Lightest *Windo Manager* out there for X ?
[03:24] <b3nj> lxde
[03:24] <bobweaver> Window Manager not DE
[03:24] <b3nj> bobweaver, how could i change my brightness in xfce
[03:24] <bobweaver> I use Unity b3nj
[03:24] <jitsii> xset might do the trick
[03:25] <milamber> bobweaver: ratpoison
[03:25] <bobweaver> Unity 2d to be more to the point
[03:25] <b3nj> how to change brightness in xfce?
[03:26] <jitsii> nevermind that, xset won't do the trick
[03:27] <b3nj> how do i change brightness in xfce
[03:27] <bobweaver> b3nj,  there has to be a settings page. If not then I would not use it lol
[03:27] <jitsii> bobweaver: lol
[03:27]  * kashkraft test
[03:28] <b3nj> how to change cursor theme in xfce?
[03:29] <bobweaver> b3nj,  you know that there is also a xubuntu channel also
[03:29] <b3nj> bobweaver: okay
[03:29] <jitsii> b3nj: you can drop the prefered cursors somewhere in your home folder and it should be rock & roll
[03:29] <jitsii> forgot the folder though
[03:29] <bobweaver> b3nj,  might be more peps there that know way more then here. But you are more then free to ask where ever
[03:29] <jitsii> its a hidden folder... haven
[03:30] <jitsii> 't changed cursor themes in forever
[03:30] <jitsii> anyone here use ps3mediaserver?
[03:31] <kashkraft> @b3nj http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+cursor+xfce
[03:31] <jitsii> no playstation fans? how shocking
[03:31] <kashkraft> First result is a great thread current from May 5
[03:33] <jitsii> xfce... lol. some of those look pretty dope though
[03:35] <b3nj> hi
[03:37] <RollinV2> xmbc only media player i use. linux version solid as a rock.
[03:37] <Worsty> Hello all. Could anyone walk me through extending an lvm to its maximum size?
[03:38] <Worsty> I just installed ubuntu encrypted onto a USB and for some reason it made a 30gb partition but I'm only seeing half that
[03:39] <Worsty> this is what I get from vgdisplay: http://pastebin.com/TSqj7s6G
[03:42] <RollinV2> Worsty, backup your important data first.
[03:45] <jmb70056> I am trying to make it where my primary user account shows up and all other user accounts are required to enter username and password
[03:46] <jmb70056> to login
[03:46] <dr_willis> 'shows up' ?
[03:46] <Worsty> no important data
[03:46] <Worsty> I just installed it
[03:46] <dr_willis> jmb70056:  you mean 'auto logs in' ?
[03:47] <Worsty> RollinV2: If you know how do to this would you mind if I messaged you privately?
[03:48] <Worsty> : /
[03:48] <jmb70056> no i want my primary user account to show in the users menu when you login but my other account i want hidden where you have to enter both username and password to login
[03:49] <dr_willis> On the LOGIN SCREEN you mean. You want to only show ONE users Icon/image.
[03:49] <jmb70056> yes
[03:49] <dr_willis> then why dident you say that. ;P
[03:49] <jmb70056> lol :)
[03:50] <dr_willis> actually GDM had a way to show/hide specific users.. not sure about lightdm
[03:50] <dr_willis> Id check askubuntu for it. search for 'lightdm hide users' perhaps.
[03:50]  * dr_willis dosent have a browser handy.
[03:50] <jmb70056> okay thank you
[03:51] <dr_willis> theres several 'system users' that are allready hidden by default. but im not sure how to hide everyone, and only show select users by default.
[03:55] <Guest9790> Hello
[03:55] <Guest9790> I have a question
[03:55] <artichoku> sup guest
[03:55] <Guest9790> is it possible to combine the processing power from two computers?
[03:55] <Guest9790> specifically two linux ones?
[03:56] <Guest9790> ubuntu
[03:56] <Guest9790> i read somewhere this evening that it's called a cluster
[03:56] <jmb70056> i found this link earlier but it didn't work or maybe i didn't do something right.
[03:56] <artichoku> o.0
[03:56] <Guest9790> hi artichoku
[03:56] <artichoku> i would think it would be possible
[03:57] <artichoku> but i couldn't tell you how
[03:57] <dr_willis> THeres cluster-linux disrtos.
[03:57] <artichoku> i mean, my servers work altogether
[03:57] <dr_willis> and entire books and stuff written on the topic.
[03:57] <mike024> Guest9790: What are you doing that you need to 'combine processing power'?
[03:58] <Guest9790> here's the deal, i have a desktop that i can't hook up to my 32 inch flat screen. so i've been using my laptop. only it's too slow and doesn't play media very well
[03:58] <Guest9790> so i wondering if for the next few days until i buy the proper cable if could combine both pcs to increase processing speed...
[03:59] <artichoku> it would take you more than a few days, i'm betting to set it up
[03:59] <Guest9790> why?
[03:59] <artichoku> what ports do you have for vid on your desktop?
[04:00] <mike024> Guest9790: Hooking them up to do that probably won't work. You need too high of bandwidth between the computers to make it work it.
[04:00] <Guest9790> pl
[04:00] <Guest9790> oops ok
[04:00] <Guest9790> does anyone know how to connect an ubuntu desktop tower to a tv?
[04:01] <artichoku> i just plug mine in
[04:01] <mike024> Guest9790: Because the bottleneck is likely your gfx card, not your cpu. And graphics needs even faster connections.
[04:01] <Guest9790> laptop is easy 'cause you just connect the hdmi right click etc.
[04:01] <artichoku> does your desktop only have vga port?
[04:01] <dr_willis> Guest9790:  i just plug the vga or hdmi cable in and it works... ;)
[04:01] <mike024> Guest9790: Are you sure that you have the right drivers and such installed on your laptop? Tuning your laptop that way should help
[04:01] <VegaMan_> i need help getting sound to work through my video card's HDMI output which requires help installing AIT drivers please
[04:01] <jmb70056> i found this link earlier but it didn't work or maybe i didn't do something right. http://askubuntu.com/questions/92349/how-do-i-hide-a-particular-user-from-the-lightdm-login-screen
[04:01] <dr_willis> Theres vga -> hdmi converters i recall. but they may be  more $$ then you want to spend
[04:01] <VegaMan_> ATI+
[04:02] <dr_willis> jmb70056:  you did restart the lightdm service?
[04:02] <VegaMan_> oh wow this is apparently a popular problem
[04:02] <Guest9790> artichoku: yeah it does... but just wondering why the hdmi cable connection doesn't work well, i mean it's sending a signal but it's just garbled fuzziness... (lemme read your posts just a moment)
[04:03] <dr_willis> Could be the PC is sending  a differnt res/display then what the tv wants.  720p vs 1080 or somthing.. but ive never had that issue.
[04:03] <dr_willis> or its a cruddy cable. ;)
[04:03] <artichoku> i've had my fair share of cruddy cables
[04:03] <artichoku> if it ain't gold, don't bother
[04:03] <Guest9790> dr_willis: perhaps a cruddy cable... but i have several around the house and have used them all
[04:04] <dr_willis> Ive had some nice Looking heavy cables.. give me issues with some tvs.
[04:04] <mike024> Guest9790: HDMI either works or it doesn't. It is a digital signal. Your settings are the issue.
[04:04] <Guest9790> so i'm thinking that there's a res/display signal issue
[04:04] <Guest9790> how do i change the settings on a desktop?
[04:04] <artichoku> nvidia or ati? what version of ubuntu?
[04:04] <Guest9790> i mean i'll do the research myself
[04:04] <dr_willis> I just use the nvidia-settings tool. ;)
[04:04] <Guest9790> artichoku: it's an intel g31 or somesuch
[04:05] <Guest9790> or at least that what it says in the terminal
[04:05] <dr_willis> but really with plugging into a tv thee days over hdmi. it should work the same as a pc monitor - it 'should' just work.
[04:05] <Guest9790> dr_willis: thanks
[04:05] <Guest9790> artichoku: thanks
[04:05] <dr_willis> Only issue ive had with tv's as monitors are normally dealing with 'overscan'  or having fancy tv features like dynamic color/brightness  that work well for movies.. but cause issues with text/desktop type images.
[04:06] <Guest9790> i just need to google how to tweek my settings and not a bigger deal about this than needs to be made :P
[04:06] <Guest9790> thanks folks
[04:06] <artichoku> np
[04:06] <Guest9790> hey you guys heard of the intel video card i mentioned arlier?
[04:06] <VegaMan_> does anyone know how to get the sudo amdconfig --initial  command to work? I'm trying to follow these directions
[04:07] <VegaMan_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:07] <Guest9790> *earlier
[04:07] <artichoku> i have not Guest
[04:07] <jmb70056> dr_willis i'm not sure if i did or not still kinda new to ubuntu i did everything that link said to do and it didn't work
[04:07] <artichoku> VegaMan, getting an error?
[04:07] <VegaMan_> artichoku:  yes
[04:07] <VegaMan_> "command not cound"
[04:07] <VegaMan_> found+
[04:08] <VegaMan_> same for "fglrxinfo: command not found"
[04:08] <mike024> Guest9790: Also, I've had issues with the TV settings themselves. Setting different scan types and stuff has net huge gains for me on my TV at home.
[04:08] <detrimental> i just installed ubuntu server and got ssh working properly since my ip is static is there anyway to find out my current ip if im not where my server is located?
[04:09] <mike024> Guest9790: I have a really nice screen, but when using the wrong settings on the TV, everything was fuzzy and yuck. Once I got the right settings everything was crisp and beautiful
[04:10] <artichoku> VegaMan: do sudo apt-get install fglrx
[04:10] <mike024> detrimenatal: You can ssh in? Install lynx and type lynx google.com then search for "what is my ip" and see what google tells you. That is if you are behind NAT. If you aren't just do a "ifconfig" and see what the ip is
[04:11] <detrimental> ok but i mean if im not where my server is located. i can ssh in while in in the network but outside ill need to use the ip not local ip
[04:12] <mike024> detrimental: so you are using nat?
[04:12] <detrimental> im not sure what nat is
[04:12] <mike024> detrimental: you will have to forward port 22 in your router to port 22 of your static private ip
[04:12] <mike024> detrimental: is your server ip 192.168.* or 10.*?
[04:13] <detrimental> its 198.168.*.*
[04:13] <dr_willis> or set the router to forwa4rd some high port like 5555  to port 22 on the internal lan to the right ip#
[04:14] <dr_willis> then you ssh to you external ip, on that port. and it gets rerouted to the internal port/pc
[04:14] <dr_willis> one way to have several ssh servers on the lan you an get to. ;)
[04:14] <mike024> detrimental: Ok. So you are using NAT. I have a computer at my house with the same IP as your server's IP. That IP is private to your network. Now you router has a public IP that the world can address.
[04:14] <detrimental> but where the ip changes is there anyway of always knowing what it is
[04:14] <detrimental> ok
[04:14] <dr_willis> detrimental:  dynamicdns type services exist.
[04:14] <mike024> detrimental: You will want to look into a dynamic ip service. You can get that for free
[04:14] <detrimental> ok thank you very much
[04:15] <dr_willis> detrimental:  on the internal side of the lan. you may want to set all pcs to use static ips that dont change.
[04:15] <detrimental> ill contact my isp
[04:15] <VegaMan_> thanks artichoku rebooting to see if it works
[04:15] <mike024> dr_willis: why go to the hassle? Just make sure your DHCP doesn't hand out your server address?
[04:15] <dr_willis> isp has no controll over your intERNAL lan.
[04:15] <detrimental> yes. i am going to change my internal lan to dynamic
[04:16] <dr_willis> mike024:  i got 5+ differnt servers. ;)  my router can assign ip based on mac. makes it eeasy for me to keep the straight.
[04:16] <detrimental> thank you
[04:16] <detrimental> dr_willis
[04:16] <artichoku> np VegaMan
[04:16] <mike024> detrimental: Google dynamic dns service. You can probably get one for free
[04:16] <Pourya> You have to contact ISP and pay something extra to get an static IP
[04:16] <Pourya> but usually the IP doesnt change that often...
[04:16] <artichoku> detri no-ip.com
[04:16] <artichoku> i've used them b4
[04:16] <dr_willis> Im refering to  the INTERNAL on the lan ip #'s you an make them static  or other ways fixed to save hassles.
[04:17] <detrimental> ok thanks
[04:17] <dr_willis> then  theres a dozen ways to get your ip if it ever changes from the isp.
[04:17] <detrimental> dr_willis i know what you mean make sure my routers not assigning changing ips
[04:17] <dr_willis> no real need to pay a lot of extra ## to hav3e the isp do a static ip.
[04:17] <dr_willis> if they even do that.
[04:17] <artichoku> oh they do it, and it's a fortune, lol
[04:17] <mike024> dr_willis: if you have clients other than servers on your network(and it is a simple network) it is easier to just assign part of your range to dhcp and use the other as static. I have a simple network at home of 10.10.10.* as clients and 10.10.11.* as my kvm server with LOTS of static ip vms. It makes administration easy and I don't need any decent networking equipment(not that I don't want it hah, gigabit is too expensive though)
[04:18] <eang> Hi, anyone who can point to where the Dash gsettings (specifically, lenses) are? I'm looking to disable/enable them, but I can't find where.
[04:24] <Karlito> hello
[04:25] <Karlito> I was wondering what linux distro would work best for watching videos?
[04:25] <Karlito> something extremely light
[04:25] <Karlito> for a desktop
[04:25] <Karlito> lol
[04:26] <RollinV2> xbmc linux
[04:26] <Karlito> perhaps someone can recommend to me a website
[04:26] <dr_willis> Karlito:  theres xbmc-focused live cd/disrtos.
[04:26] <dr_willis> Karlito:  depends on how/what you are watching
[04:26] <Karlito> so i can read descriptions of your suggestion and others
[04:26] <dr_willis> and the system specs. ;)
[04:26] <Karlito> dr_willis: i know that linux mint is equipped to handle any kind of media you throw at it
[04:27] <Karlito> but it's kinda crapy
[04:27] <CrypticSquared> in what way?
[04:27] <dr_willis> Karlito:  ive rarely found anything i couldent watch in most any linux disrto out there.
[04:27] <dr_willis> its all in the details of what and how you are watching stuff...
[04:27] <dr_willis> xbmc on ubuntu works well
[04:27] <Karlito> dr_willis i like viisting those crappy free movie tv sites that require codecs and stuff
[04:27] <dr_willis> then theres good old vlc and other media players.
[04:28] <dr_willis> Karlito:  cant say ive seen a site that requires special codecs.. other then silverlight
[04:28] <Karlito> i was led to believe by a linux mint user that the only way around opening the terminal to install stuff would be to use linux mint
[04:28] <RollinV2> Karlito, sounds like you want a media center solution. go for xbmc, vlc, plex
[04:28] <dr_willis> sounds like you shouldent be taking advice from mint users...
[04:29] <dr_willis> and yes.. learn the terminal...
[04:29] <dr_willis> it will pay off big time in the long run
[04:29] <RollinV2> Karlito, do not be afraid of the terminal. it is your friend but you dont know it yet
[04:29] <RollinV2> terminal is so fast once you learn it
[04:29] <Karlito> i bookmarked commands and worked partly through a command line manual :P
[04:30] <RollinV2> good job
[04:30] <Karlito> RollinV2: perhaps you can recommend a more user friendly command line manual/user guide?
[04:30] <dr_willis> was showing off at work to guys doing tasks that would take them forever in the gui.. that took about 20 sec on the terminal.
[04:30] <Karlito> RollinV2: thnx
[04:30] <Karlito> dr_willis: lol
[04:31] <RollinV2> Karlito, start learning about bashrc and aliases
[04:31] <artichoku> lol, most of the programs i use don't even have a gui
[04:31] <artichoku> or even install for that matter
[04:31] <artichoku> ./ ftw
[04:32] <RollinV2> the extract alias for the win
[04:32] <Karlito> i've installed stuff using the command line but it was basically cut and pasting what someone in a forum told me to
[04:32] <RollinV2> i cant even remember the last time i actually used the tar, zip, gz commands
[04:32] <dr_willis> im on a console only system  right now.
[04:32] <dr_willis> !info unp
[04:32] <artichoku> nice dr willis
[04:32] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:32] <RollinV2> irssi is nice irc terminal app
[04:33] <artichoku> irc is fun,but i like playing in shell chat, lol
[04:33] <Karlito> dude what is the most powerful awesome tooty fruity hooty tooty linux system out there for badasses who can do command line w/their eyes shut?
[04:33] <artichoku> ssh party!
[04:33] <RollinV2> arch
[04:34] <RollinV2> just visit the #archlinux room. dont say anything. just listen. you will learn something or be totally confused
[04:34] <RollinV2> when you can sit in that room and understand. then you are ready
[04:34] <artichoku> terminal proxies are giving me angry eyes!!!!
[04:34] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm mid-upgrade of a 10.04 LTS server to 12.04 LTS.  However, I am getting errors that many packages cannot be configured due to dependency issues.
[04:35] <Crell> They are mostly Perl packages by the looks of it, except a few like git and mysql(?).
[04:35] <Karlito> RollinV2: ok thanks master
[04:35] <artichoku> Crell, they may be being replaced by updated packages
[04:35] <Crell> When I try to dpkg-reconfigure a few of them, I get an error that a particular symbol is missing.
[04:35] <RollinV2> dcrell force install the apps. that will install the dependencies (as long as they are part of the 12.04 repos)
[04:35] <RollinV2> sorry, that was for Crell
[04:35] <Crell> RollinV2: aptitude install perl-modules --force?
[04:36] <Crell> (That's one of the packages.)
[04:37] <bambu> Is this a decent hardrive price? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136567\
[04:37] <RollinV2> crell "-f" is easier to type
[04:37] <Crell> If you want to be lazy about it...
[04:37] <bazhang> !ot | bambu
[04:37] <artichoku> bambu you can get a terabyte for that probably
[04:38] <bambu> artichoku,  Link?
[04:38] <RollinV2> lol @ harddrive price. man go to slickdeals and be done with it
[04:38] <bazhang> bambu, wrong channel
[04:38] <artichoku> !ot | bambu
[04:38] <Karlito> RollinV2: no one is talking to me in #archlinux :(
[04:38] <Karlito> or talking at all for that matter
[04:38] <mike024> bambu: I would highly recommend getting a 7200 rpm hard drive. Hard drives are the slowest thing in computers these days.
[04:39] <artichoku> Karlito: that's cuz there all in terminal
[04:39] <artichoku> lol
[04:39] <Karlito> it's like they don't associate with noobs or something
[04:39] <bazhang> Karlito, are you asking for arch support here?
[04:39] <Karlito> nah
[04:39] <Karlito> artichoku: nuh uh lol... there were people communicating but they're ignoring me
[04:39] <RollinV2> arch people dont talk to noobs. but if you ask nicely they are helpful
[04:39] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[04:39]  * Karlito retracts "or talking at all for that matter" statment
[04:39] <artichoku> <----- is actually on kubuntu
[04:40] <artichoku> mmmm prettier
[04:40] <RollinV2> lol @ ubuntu vs arch beef. but i digress.
[04:40] <Karlito> i wish my os was pretty :(
[04:40] <Karlito> fml
[04:41] <RollinV2> karlito: a nice background makes ubuntu stylish
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> Karlito: make it pretty.
[04:41] <artichoku> lol @ proprietary OS from the "Hackers" movie
[04:41] <artichoku> and the excitement about a 28.8kbps modem
[04:41] <t640> 28.8 used to be enough to host fserv's
[04:41] <Crell> RollinV2: Hm, no dice.  It looks like the problem is some packages want Perl 5.10, but Perl 5.14 is what 12.04 wants to install.
[04:41] <Crell> And it's getting lost in the middle.
[04:41] <Karlito> is there a book on how to be a linux badass and do cool stuff like talk to people on irc using 3 monitors like chris pirillo, play video games on a 4th and surf the web all at the same time
[04:42] <artichoku> lol@Karlito
[04:42] <Crell> Karlito: Linux Badass For Dummies?
[04:42] <aeon-ltd> Karlito: dude that'd be incredibly overpowered unless you needed to do that stuff
[04:42] <artichoku> i only have two monitors :(
[04:42] <Karlito> i want my linux distro to be an extension of my pecker :P
[04:42] <artichoku> but i use them!
[04:42] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: workspaces :)
[04:42] <Karlito> crell lol
[04:42] <artichoku> lol aeon
[04:43] <artichoku> i like to see everything at once
[04:43] <RollinV2> Karlito, please dont mention chris pirillo. he is worse than the average fake female youtube nerd these days
[04:43] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: flick between them real fast
[04:44] <Karlito> RollinV2: noted
[04:44] <artichoku> lol aeon: ctrl+shift+rclick
[04:44] <artichoku> i do miss the cube
[04:44] <artichoku> downside of switching to kde
[04:45] <artichoku> compiz was pretty sweet
[04:45] <artichoku> but unity blows my funky winker bean, so...
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: if you use tiling you can split your screen more effectively
[04:45] <RollinV2> i hated that cube workspace transition. made me motion sick
[04:46] <Muphrid> kde does have the cube
[04:46] <artichoku> oh man i got a semi from that cube, rofl
[04:46] <artichoku> cube without compiz?!?!
[04:46] <Crell> RollinV2: When I do apt-get install -f, I still get errors unpacking the "perl" package.
[04:46] <Karlito> damn i don't know what to do with myself - guess i'm destined to flounder in perpetual noobness for the rest of my miserable life
[04:46] <Karlito> can't use my new tv
[04:46] <artichoku> Karlito, you have to goof around and break it a few times
[04:46] <Karlito> don't know what a batch or alias is... :( fml
[04:47] <Muphrid> in the bottom of their desktop effects tab in system settings there is a cube identical to compiz cube, not sure what they're using
[04:47] <artichoku> ooooooo i wanna try!
[04:47] <artichoku> brb
[04:47] <Karlito> artichoku: ooooh (epiphany) so that's what you do :P
[04:47] <bambu> Ev eryone replied, yet it is offtopic. Leaving me to still want your help.
[04:48]  * Crell is about to restart here.  If I disappear, I'll be back, I hope...
[04:48] <bambu> Can you just post a link to one?
[04:48] <Karlito> guess i stick around for a few more mins and fail at some more self-loathesome comedy relief
[04:48] <RollinV2> Karlito, artichoku is right. the path to ubuntu enlightment requires you to stumble over many many many setup problems
[04:48] <Karlito> *i'll
[04:48] <jmb70056> dr_willis  are you still here?
[04:48] <Karlito> dr_willis: are you really a doctor?
[04:48] <Karlito> RollinV2: thanks
[04:49] <Karlito> you people are wise beyond my years
[04:49] <artichoku> Muphrid: awww
[04:49] <IdleOne> sorry bambu I hit the wrong button
[04:49] <artichoku> it's... okay, but not the same :(
[04:49] <Muphrid> what
[04:49] <t640> it's not hardcore unless you edit in 'ed'
[04:49] <bambu> ;p
[04:49]  * Karlito smothers some butter on artichoku and takes a nibble
[04:49] <RollinV2> Karlito, you dont run any linux distro without a bit of common sense. so thanks. haha
[04:49] <t640> term types are for the weak
[04:50] <Karlito> i wonder if i can run linux on my nook?
[04:51] <Muphrid> artichoku: what is the difference?
[04:51] <artichoku> Karlino, i have linux on my hp touchpad, so why not?
[04:51] <Karlito> wonder if i can go on irc on my nook?
[04:51] <Karlito> that would be badass
[04:51] <artichoku> Muphrid, it won't let me use the mouse as part of the hotkey
[04:51] <artichoku> so i have to turn it off
[04:51] <t640> http://hackaday.com/2012/04/17/full-linux-distro-on-a-nook-color/
[04:51] <artichoku> turn it on, scroll, turn it off
[04:51] <VegaMan_> i'm back. my soundcard is not showing up at all. Anyone know how to get alsamixer to recognize it?
[04:52] <Karlito> t640: NICE
[04:52] <artichoku> rather than just a quick drag
[04:52] <cmell> VegaMan_, what kind of sound card?
[04:52] <Karlito> t640: wait i have a nook simple touch w/ e-ink
[04:52] <VegaMan_> built into my gfx card
[04:52] <artichoku> VegaMan, anything under "Additional Drivers"?
[04:53] <cmell> VegaMan_, does lspci show it?
[04:53] <Muphrid> I cant recall of that antifeature although Im not in kde anymore
[04:53] <Karlito> cool t640 found a rooting manual
[04:53] <VegaMan_> "hardware drivers?" no i installed all there
[04:53] <t640> if the e-ink version is arm, it should work on that too
[04:53] <t640> might need some graphics tweaks
[04:54] <VegaMan_> yes cmell
[04:54] <cmell> VegaMan_, what does lspci say about it?
[04:54] <Karlito> t640: sorry, arm?
[04:54] <t640> arm processor
[04:55] <t640> 800MHz Texas Instruments OMAP 3 processor on the e-ink version
[04:55] <Karlito> t640: nook simple touch has a 800 Mhz ARM Cortex-A8-based TI OMAP
[04:55] <Karlito> yeah
[04:56] <Karlito> so than will it work?
[04:56] <dctrd> i saw on the news that ubuntu is a spyware os
[04:56] <Karlito> figure i'll devote doing something remotely cooler than being too lazy to try out new distros on my pc and test out connecting to my new tv
[04:57] <artichoku> i can't waint til windows 8 supports ARM processing
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: fox?
[04:57] <t640> ARM processors can do it. hopefully the rest of the hardware is supported in linux
[04:57]  * Crell returns.
[04:57] <t640> i bet you could get it running
[04:57] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: windows rt?
[04:57] <dctrd> on the internet news
[04:57] <VegaMan_> actually cmell i'm not sure but i get :00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RD780 Northbridge only dual slot PCI-e_GFX and HT1 K8 part
[04:57] <jmb70056> Okay i got the user accounts hidden in the main login screen but how do you hide them in the drop down menu once you login
[04:57] <Karlito> t640: is there a safe way to test out running it without bricking it or some other unwanted outcome?
[04:57] <dctrd> is it true ?
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: that's a lie, though if someone remastered ubuntu it could have spyware or any kind of snooping set up.
[04:58] <cmell> VegaMan_, that sounds more lspci doesn't see any sound card
[04:58] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: official ubuntu is fine, if you're really paranoid you can start from server then run through every pkg yourself.
[04:58] <VegaMan_> wiat nvm found it cmell :01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device aab0
[04:58] <artichoku> aeon, real-time? roger that? return?
[04:58] <RollinV2> ubuntu has like a half dozen very popular branches (mint, elementary, xubuntu, etc).. so you have safe options
[04:58] <artichoku> i'm feeling slow
[04:59] <artichoku> ubuntu=debian
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: WindowsRT
[04:59] <Karlito> drink a red bull, it'll give you ... lower blood sugar lol
[04:59] <artichoku> oh durka
[04:59] <bazhang> artichoku, thats false.
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> artichoku: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Runtime
[04:59] <dctrd> does installing ubuntu effect the other partitions?
[04:59] <bazhang> artichoku, please stop with the running offtopic commentary
[04:59] <cmell> VegaMan_, hmm, I wonder if ato sound is supported by alsa?
[04:59] <dctrd> or damage the HDD ?
[04:59] <dctrd> ?
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: yes, you'd have to reduce the size of others to make space
[04:59] <RollinV2> dctrd,  it may affect the boot loader
[04:59] <bazhang> dctrd, NO
[05:00] <Karlito> hi bazhang
[05:00] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: damage? unlikely, but of course there's the standard miniscule chance that a write might not go so well.
[05:00] <Crell> RollinV2: Any other suggestions?  The -f didn't work.
[05:00] <Karlito> he seems nice enough
[05:01] <RollinV2> Crell, im out of ideas. -f always worked for me. but ive never jumped that many version ahead in one update.
[05:01] <dctrd> ok and if i get a hard drive thats not included with the primary one
[05:01] <bazhang> Karlito, please take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic   this is support only
[05:01] <dctrd> will it still affect it?
[05:01] <Crell> RollinV2: According to what I read, LTS->LTS is what you're supposed to do.
[05:01] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: no, but you can't boot linux with the windows bootloader.
[05:01] <VegaMan_> i dunno cmell. it was working on my last video card but i upgraded it today
[05:01] <Crell> I was planning to then go to 12.10 afteward.  It started on 8.04. :-)
[05:01] <cmell> dctrd, any linux is capable of wrecking the mode pages on a harddrive, if terrible errors occur
[05:01] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: unless you installed within windows with wubi
[05:02] <RollinV2> dctrd, if your data is important. you should backup to another harddrive before editing partitions or installing ubuntu. always be safe.
[05:02] <Karlito> t640: the article says that the person installed linux on top of the nook's android kernal, won't that slow processing speed down?
[05:02] <dctrd> no its just i got an expensive high spec pc
[05:03] <cmell> VegaMan_, the on0video sound card not being supported yet by alsa seems the most likely explanation
[05:03] <dctrd> and dont want to wreck it from the first day
[05:03] <Muphrid> dctrd: you want to put another OS in a parallel hard drive?
[05:03] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: how high spec? if i5+ just run virtualbox in windows
[05:03] <csharp-mobile> dctrd: If you have backups, no need to worry about that
[05:04] <dctrd> i hate using virtual box
[05:04] <lcabreza> hi guys
[05:04] <thufir_> anyone familiar with DAR (Disc ARchiver)?  I seem to be having a syntax problem:  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2641
[05:04] <lcabreza> anybody knows where i can download the sparc SUNWi15cs os patch
[05:04] <dctrd> when i install it normally i feel its way faster
[05:04] <RollinV2> dctrd, pay attention to aeon-ltd suggestion. im running my linux guests on a windows 8 vmware host. its glorious.
[05:05] <bazhang> lcabreza, how is that connected to ubuntu support
[05:05] <aeon-ltd> dctrd: it is; the closest you can get to native would be kvm, but that only exists for unix type oses
[05:05] <dctrd> dude im a noob...talk to me in a easy way
[05:05] <cmell> dctrd, can you afford a usb key drive?
[05:05] <dctrd> lol sure i can
[05:06] <dctrd> i already have about 6
[05:06] <dctrd> 2 8gigs
[05:06] <cmell> dctrd, then it's easy, install ubuntu to the usb key
[05:06] <dctrd> 1 16gig
[05:06] <dctrd> i have it on a cd
[05:07] <RollinV2> i feel like dctrd is a "omg i broke my bootloader" situation waiting to happen. someone hold his hand please :-)
[05:07] <cmell> dctrd, no I mean boot the cd and install it to the key drive, so that you can run it off the key
[05:07] <t640> you could even get a usb hub and make a RAID installed linux partition ;)
[05:07] <lcabreza> bazhang:hoping someone knows the chatroom for Solaris ..
[05:07] <aeon-ltd> t640: that'd be so cripplingly slow, unless it was usb3
[05:08] <t640> heh, i have seen it in action
[05:08] <bazhang> !alis | lcabreza have a search
[05:08] <t640> yes crazy slow
[05:08] <jmb70056> does anyone know how to hide users on unity's user switching menu
[05:09] <cmell> dctrd, if you install it to a usb drive, there will be no chance of it ruining your windows partitions on your main drive
[05:11] <VegaMan_> quick question.... if i upgrade to 12.10 can i revert back to 12.04 or will it be "buggy?"
[05:11] <bazhang> full reinstall VegaMan_
[05:12] <RollinV2> VegaMan_, no downgrades
[05:12] <bazhang> there is no "downgrade"
[05:12] <VegaMan_> damn ok thanks
[05:12] <RollinV2> bazhang, no version lower number changes
[05:12] <cmell> VegaMan_, you might be able to just upgrade alsa?
[05:13] <mike024> VegaMan_, dd the drive, upgrade. If you don't like it dd it back. Make sure you are very careful and you probably should have other backups of your important data :)
[05:13] <VegaMan_> oh i always back up the data.... i just dont wanna do 2 installs
[05:14] <VegaMan_> but thanks.... cmell lemme see if there's a newer version
[05:14] <cmell> VegaMan_, if this about your sound, what about external usb sound?
[05:17] <mrhyde> sup guise why is ubuntu free>
[05:18] <mrhyde> is ubuntu run by a bunch of college kids doing freelance coding
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> mrhyde: because it's based on free spftware
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> lol
[05:18] <aeon-ltd> mrhyde: no, but the current maintenance could be
[05:19] <VegaMan_> cmell my TV doesnt take USB sound lol
[05:20] <cmell> VegaMan_, they have these little gadgets that plu into your usb port which have sound jacks on them, which you can run into your tv's audio-in
[05:21] <aeon-ltd> mrhyde: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel this is the start of the story.
[05:21] <whamm> mrhyde: FWIW, Ubuntu is run by a nonprofit that is led by a millionaire
[05:22] <aeon-ltd> mrhyde: [guessing from your tone] don't underestimate linux and it's distributions. they are run on far more pcs than windows will ever be.
[05:23] <poz_> is ubuntu 12.04.01 freezes for some reason, what can i do to unfreeze it?
[05:23] <cmell> a lot of google android stuff is written by college kids
[05:24] <aeon-ltd> cmell: 'apps' are very different
[05:24] <Muphrid> in fact even msdos was written by college kids :P
[05:24] <onlylove> I have question in wireless essid
[05:24] <onlylove> http://www.imagestorming.com/delete/image/TgH/KqS5ITFpRsAQo1vNylVMUqCpuM
[05:24] <onlylove> http://www.imagestorming.com/image/TgH
[05:25] <poz_> is ubuntu 12.04.01 freezes for some reason, what can i do to unfreeze it?
[05:25] <AndChat|251264> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb but it hangs somewhere around the line "Switching to clocksource tsc"
[05:25] <onlylove> the wicd can't display the essid correctly
[05:25] <cmell> poz_, how solidly is it frozen?
[05:27] <poz_> cmell, it was completely frozen, i just reset it. but i would like to know if there is a way
[05:27] <cmell> poz_, if it was so forizen the keyboard was locked up, then there would be little way to unfreeze it
[05:28] <RollinV2> mrhyde, linux is responsible for this very irc chat and most of the web servers on the net. dont disrespect open source contributions
[05:28] <poz_> what is the first thing to trY?
[05:28] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> hey
[05:28] <cmell> poz_, first thing? see if the cap lock toggles the led
[05:28] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> linux is the best
[05:29] <mrhyde> aeon-ltd: windows xp and windows 7 combined has 90% marketshare linux has 1%...
[05:29] <bazhang> !ot | mrhyde
[05:29] <poz_> assuming keyboard works...
[05:29] <bazhang> mrhyde, thats enough
[05:30] <cmell> poz_, that would be a test to see if the keyboard does work
[05:30] <mrhyde> i didnt say anything lol people here saying me bashing on ubuntu out of nowhere
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> mrhyde: are servers not computers?
[05:30] <bazhang> mrhyde, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[05:30] <bazhang> aeon-ltd, lets move on please
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> i apologize
[05:31] <poz> Are there ways to unfreeze it when the keybored works?
[05:31] <cmell> poz, at least there would be hope
[05:31] <Muphrid> you have to know what is freezing it, but you can open a console with ctrl alt f1
[05:32] <Muphrid> and get the desktop back with ctrl alt f7
[05:38] <getchu> ubuntu unity can support desktop PC well ?
[05:38] <getchu> I don't have a touch screen
[05:39] <dr_willis> most people dont have touch screens
[05:39] <aeon-ltd> getchu: yes, unity was around before touchscreens were popular in pcs
[05:41] <RollinV2> getchu,  unlike windows, ubuntu allows for multiple deskop interfaces to be installed and switched at the login screen. so you could have unity, gnome2, and gnome3 configs to test your preferences
[05:41] <zenlike> Or the lovely xmonad
[05:41] <dr_willis> jwm ! ;)
[05:42] <dr_willis> From the user friendly to the really really out there  window managers.
[05:43] <getchu> okay,I would like to choose gnome2
[05:43] <Karlito> whatchu talkin' 'bout willis?!
[05:44] <dr_willis> !classic
[05:44] <dr_willis> !fallback
[05:44] <dr_willis> Gnome2 is dead basically. ;) theres a gnome-2-like fallback mode for  newer releases
[05:44] <dr_willis> !nounity
[05:45] <b3nj>  
[05:45] <b3nj> d
[05:45] <b3nj> d
[05:45] <FloodBot1> b3nj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <detrimental> i installed ubuntu server with ssh and i am on my ssh server from my laptop. i am having trouble copying the rsa key on my laptop while already logged into my server
[05:50] <Jkessler> any xorg.conf wizards?  i am working with it remotely :( ..  the machine has a ATI 5770 and a Sceptre E32 TV via HDMI.  Thanks in advance.
[05:50] <detrimental> when i use copy-id user@host it times out
[05:50] <RollinV2> detrimental,  explain what you mean by copying
[05:51] <cmell> Jkessler, I know a little bit
[05:51] <detrimental> in the guide it says i can use the command ssh-copy-id user@host to copy rsa key to the computer once connected via ssh
[05:52] <detrimental> i am logged in my server with my laptop and trying to transpher rsa key
[05:52] <detrimental> so i can disable pws all together
[05:52] <cmell> Jkessler, what part of the xorg.conf do you have a question about?
[05:52] <Jkessler> cmell, I should install openssh.  was using teamviewer.  any ideas how i can get him back into X?
[05:53] <Jkessler> i moved xorg.conf to xorg.bak   and tried a conf that i thought would work
[05:53] <Jkessler> i had him reboot into recovery mode, had him move back the xorg.bak to xorg.conf and he is still getting a black screen.  can get recovery menus, that's it
[05:53] <RollinV2> detrimental, if your ssh port is open you can scp the key to your laptop
[05:54] <RollinV2> detrimental, try doing that. also check your folder and file permissions.
[05:54] <detrimental> you mean the ssh port on the machine im trying to transpher to?
[05:54] <cmell> Jkessler, that's the first time I've heard of that
[05:54] <detrimental> looking into scp now
[05:55] <Jkessler> cmell: i know.  i'm puzzled.  he maybe typoed the command
[05:55] <Jkessler> but he's on his laptop so it's hard to copy and paste.. he's not a typer
[05:55] <Muphrid> Jkessler: maybe running Xorg -configure ?
[05:56] <Jkessler> Muphrid, I did that and tried reinstalling proprietary drivers and it said i had a bad xorg.conf
[05:56] <Jkessler> so i reverted to what we had before
[05:56] <Muphrid> what ubuntu version is it?
[05:56] <Jkessler> 12.04 x64 desktop
[05:57] <Muphrid> there is also an ati command in the proprietary driver, i think it is ati-config --initial
[05:57] <Jkessler> err yup.  Xorg -configure failed
[05:57] <Jkessler> it was the ati-config --inital command that produced the 'bad' xorg.conf
[05:57] <Muphrid> mm
[05:57] <Jkessler> according to the restricted drivers
[05:58] <cmell> Jkessler, do they need hw accelaration?
[05:58] <Muphrid> what if u uninstall the proprietary driver
[05:58] <Muphrid> and then Xorg -configure again
[05:58] <Jkessler> yeah, he wants to game through wine and mine..
[05:58] <nicknefarious> Hey all... Can anyone help me with theming?
[05:59] <Muphrid> nicknefarious: whats up with that
[05:59] <Jkessler> Muphrid, how do i do that from command line again?  modprobe command?
[05:59] <nicknefarious> I have just installed GnomishDark a dark theme...
[05:59] <Muphrid> Jkessler: probably sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[05:59] <nicknefarious> Some apps appear with white on white....
[05:59] <Jkessler> ok, i'll have him try that.  thanks
[06:00] <cmell> Jkessler, I was just thinking that to get it running for a while you could change the xorg.conf to the vesa driver, and after that you could go for the ati drivers
[06:00] <EwfsPrince> Hi a general networking question. I'm running a proxy server for a few game servers that allow server to server telportation. I'm binding the servers locally to a public IP but I have the ports blocked and the only way to connect to any of the servers is via the hub proxy server. Because it's bind to a public IP is the proxy server routing locally automatically because it recognises its using
[06:00] <EwfsPrince> an IP it owns or is it routing through the internet. I know accessing your own server via your own IP won't work however it seems to be working fine so I'm a bit confused.
[06:00] <Jkessler> cmell: do you have a command?  I muddle through the display problems for myself and never work with it
[06:00] <Jkessler> once mine works, i leave it alone for a few years. hah
[06:00] <Muphrid> nicknefarious: any screenshot?
[06:01] <cmell> Jkessler, "nano xorg.conf"?
[06:01] <nicknefarious> @Muphrid... please give me a sec...
[06:02] <Jkessler> yeah, but what do i edit to change to vesa?
[06:02] <Jkessler> i'm not looking at his file anymore
[06:02] <Jkessler> probably starting a new one
[06:02] <cmell> Jkessler, in the xorg.conf, there should be a section that says {Section "Device"}
[06:03] <Jkessler> i'll have him wget a pastebin if there's a generic
[06:03] <cmell> Jkessler, immediately under that, there should be a line that says {Driver} change the driver it specifies to "vesa"
[06:03] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid... how can I send you a screenshot?
[06:04] <ramon> when you using the Grub menu and chose to do a "repair broken packages" does it take long?...cause i dont know if i have to wait for a confirmation when the repairing is done
[06:04] <Jkessler> cmell, i'll try that too.  thanks Muphrid too. got a few options
[06:04] <Muphrid> just put it on tinypic
[06:05] <cmell> Jkessler, if you look online for a file called "xorg.conf-vesa", you can just rename it to xorg.conf
[06:06] <Muphrid> nicknefarious: but you mean the bg is white and text is white aswell?
[06:07] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid yes...
[06:07] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid http://tinypic.com/r/akwie1/6
[06:07] <Muphrid> nicknefarious: your theme is incompatible with the gtk version youre using
[06:08] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid... no everything works fine... this is an external app
[06:08] <Muphrid> what is it?
[06:08] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid B-Folders
[06:09] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid it's not actually "installed" it justs runs from a folder through a desktop launcher I created for it
[06:09] <Muphrid> via wine?
[06:10] <nicknefarious> @ Muphrid No...
[06:10] <Muphrid> not sure then never heard of that program
[06:11] <nicknefarious> @Muphrid point is I don't kniow where to go to change the look or colour of specific apps
[06:12] <Muphrid> nicknefarious: i dont think you can change it individually
[06:12] <cmell> nicknefarious, many apps use the default DM settings of the toolkit they use (gtk, etc)
[06:13] <nicknefarious> @cmell So can I change it within the app?
[06:14] <cmell> nicknefarious, sure, if you have the source code
[06:14] <d4rkh4nd> i need some help with my java. openjdk, I try to launch minecraft and it just hangs
[06:16] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: IIRC openjdk is not recommended for minecraft, though it does work ok here for me. Can you try the javajdk?
[06:16] <d4rkh4nd> i never heard of that one lol
[06:16] <nicknefarious> @cmell it's a java app... is there any way I make changes myself to the configuration?
[06:17] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: ok - what ubuntu version?
[06:17] <moon`> I downloaded some nvidia legacy drivers and the file format is *.run how do I install/extract/whatever that type of file to utilize the driver?
[06:17] <d4rkh4nd> 12.04
[06:17] <cmell> nicknefarious, if you have the source, you can do anything you want, otherwise you are stuck with what you got
[06:18] <nicknefarious> @cmell @Muphrid - cheers, thanks for your info.
[06:18] <Jordan_U> moon`: Did you try installing the driver via restricted drivers / software center first?
[06:18] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: There are too many links on a search for 'minecraft 12.04 openjdk' for me to give you a definitive answer. I can only recommend you try a few
[06:18] <Muphrid> K
[06:19] <d4rkh4nd> okay
[06:19] <d4rkh4nd> ty
[06:19] <Muphrid> moon`: make it executable, right clicking on it and then permissions tab
[06:19] <Muphrid> and run it
[06:19] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: such as: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165737/how-to-start-minecraft
[06:19] <tozen> moon: Type "chmod +x example.run" (press enter). Now type "./example.run", press enter, and the installer will run.
[06:19] <moon`> software center didn't have the latest drivers jordan
[06:19] <moon`> I already d/l the file
[06:20] <moon`> thanks muphrid
[06:21] <poz> Does anyone have any experience setting up a home theatre system? I am just wondering if I would need a receiver if I am connecting the tv and speakers to my computer...
[06:21] <d4rkh4nd> poz: only if you dont have a good audio card
[06:22] <poz> can we disscuss if I have a good audio card?
[06:22] <poz> i am not sure if i do
[06:23] <d4rkh4nd> pos: thats pretty simple, does your audio have 1/8th inch jacks  only ?
[06:23] <d4rkh4nd> pos: like head phone / mic ports
[06:24] <Muphrid> poz: open the sound preferences, go to hardware and check the profile dropdown if you have support for 7.1 or 5.1
[06:24] <poz> yeah i think so
[06:24] <poz> there is no hardware option
[06:25] <d4rkh4nd> pos: for around 30~60 us you can get a pretty high grade HD audio card. With midi outs /in and also 1/4 inch outs /in.
[06:25] <poz> for analog output, under the "Mode" options, i have an option for 7.1 and 5.1 output
[06:25] <Muphrid> well, they changed their interface in the latest release,not sure what it is called  now
[06:26] <Muphrid> yeah thats it
[06:26] <d4rkh4nd> pos: If you cant swing that then you can hook a old stareo up to you 1/8th out and use that till you can afford it.
[06:26] <Muphrid> your card supports all the channels
[06:26] <d4rkh4nd> pos: the 7.1 and 5.1 means nothing for your use. thats still low grade for home speakers. Great for pc speakers thou
[06:27] <poz> http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38187
[06:28] <poz> i am pretty sure that is what my audio card is
[06:28] <d4rkh4nd> sec ill look
[06:29] <d4rkh4nd> pos: you know that would work till you decide you want to EQ a 12 band sound system. Most would not hear a diffrenc. I produce music so im piky lol
[06:30] <poz> I am not sure what that means
[06:31] <d4rkh4nd> pos: it basicly means getting into se sound etting equlier for 12 bands of frequency. To tweek th
[06:32] <poz> the problem I am finding is that most home theatre systems comes with a blueray player and or a receiver. I think that is for people who do not want to use their computer or somthing...
[06:32] <d4rkh4nd> right
[06:33] <d4rkh4nd> poz: from personal experiance the pc leaves a lot of option for the future. and cheaper.
[06:33] <n0rwack> Hello. I got a Compaq Presario CQ58 with a Ralink network card. And i get very weak wifi signals. Any ideas?
[06:33] <poz> it is difficult to find a system with a subwoofer and no recerver or player of any kind
[06:34] <poz> http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/-/b0000507.aspx?path=65e20f6ffd075f945b8f6504a1136acaen02
[06:34] <poz> that is the closest thing i can find
[06:34] <d4rkh4nd> i may still have a link
[06:35] <poz> however there should be a less expensive one available.
[06:35] <d4rkh4nd> pos: shoot i dont BUT, you know. PAWN shops are a gold mine for audio stuff.
[06:35] <unixnotphoenix> can anyone suggest me the best movie maker for linux?
[06:35] <poz> humm but not very advanced stuff I am sure. Ideally, I am looking for a wireless system
[06:36] <n0rwack> Hello. I got a Compaq Presario CQ58 with a Ralink network card. And i get very weak wifi signals. Any ideas? Running 12.04
[06:36] <d4rkh4nd> dont do wireless for you speakers. network yes wierless no. the audio loss is bad
[06:36] <poz> I am not sure if they exist yet though
[06:36] <unixnotphoenix> guys... please..
[06:36] <poz> oh i see
[06:37] <somsip> !best | unixnotphoenix
[06:37] <poz> then it is not possible to have my computer across the room, or even in another room, from my tv/ speakers
[06:37] <canobi> Wow, quite a few people. Happy hollidays everyone and a quick question - installed quantal on a LVM root partition. /boot is /dev/sda2. The problem - it won't boot, says "gave up waiting on root device", drops me into initramfs prompt. From there I tried to manually start lvm and activate the partitions, but it says "lvm command not found". What do I need to do to fix it?
[06:38] <d4rkh4nd> pos: If you wanna do that checkell out WD streamming system. its cheap and works very w
[06:40] <poz> I dont think that allows a desktop environment on the tv
[06:40] <d4rkh4nd> No it wont
[06:40] <poz> and also wont work for what I plan to have in the future
[06:41] <unixnotphoenix> ok.. guys.. I need a movie maker with pan+zoom feature.. what yal suggest?
[06:41] <thufir_> anyone familiar with DAR (Disc ARchiver)?  I seem to be having a syntax problem:  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2641
[06:41] <poz> I think i need to go into a store and see what kind of inputs go into the speaker. then look for a wireless connector which sends uncompressed audio
[06:42] <d4rkh4nd> poz: i would forget wifi speakers, If your  against the wires then mabe you can rig something  up
[06:43] <poz> wifi would be awfull. I do not want that much latency
[06:43] <d4rkh4nd> Wifi the video is a diffrent story thou, maybe thats a work around you can look at
[06:44] <poz> wifi = latancy with anything (typically 1-2 seconds with video at 1080p)
[06:44] <n0rwack> Hello. I got a Compaq Presario CQ58 with a Ralink network card. And i get very weak wifi signals. Any ideas? Running 12.04
[06:45] <d4rkh4nd> Over network you wouldnt notice it actually. i stream in my house all the time and you cant even tell
[06:46] <d4rkh4nd> You use a cheap 30$ pc for a server and bam no issues
[06:47] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: you mean over network cable rather than wifi?
[06:47] <poz> this is what i plan to use to get video across the room: http://www.brite-view.com/air_synchd_dx.php
[06:47] <d4rkh4nd> poz: Ya look at the numbers you can stream as fast as you can recive, normal Eth0 is 100mb hardline  normal  60 ~ 100mb over wife.
[06:47] <MrSalt> n0rwack: Sometimes it's not actually a weak signal, but so much other noise making it tough to make out.
[06:47] <abetusk> I'm getting an error when trying to install a package from source.  It's complaining that the check "glibmm-2.4 >= 2.8" failed.  Should I just be installing glibmm from source in another directory and point the configure script to it?  Or should I be updating this package somehow?
[06:48] <poz> I have seen it set up. there is lag
[06:48] <abetusk> my system: DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[06:48] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: the only video editors I know of are cinelerra and lives. Might be worth looking these up if you haven't already, but I know little about them
[06:48] <poz> the brite view has very little lag
[06:48] <d4rkh4nd> sosip: i think someone else was looking for that'
[06:48] <poz> not sure if it passes audio though
[06:49] <kingbeast> openshot
[06:49] <d4rkh4nd> poz: this is basicly a expencive pc network system lol. You can make this for like 80$
[06:49] <n0rwack> MrSalt: Tried where i lived before, and where i lived now. 2 different routers. Same problem. Even at the library. So i doubt it. Also my PS3 right next to my laptop get 90-95% signal strength.
[06:49] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: sorry - stil had your nick in my head from the minecraft question...
[06:49] <d4rkh4nd> lol
[06:49] <thufir_> surely someone is familiar with DAR (Disc ARchiver) and can help understand this error?  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2641
[06:50] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: but really, you mean HD streaming is okay over cable, but not over wifi?
[06:50] <d4rkh4nd> ya cable or network ONLY
[06:50] <poz> well that will not do
[06:50] <poz> I want wireless
[06:50] <Muphrid> abetusk: do you have the -dev file?
[06:50] <somsip> d4rkh4nd: ok - need to revise my plans for a Pi/XMBC combo then...
[06:51] <MrSalt> n0rwack: The other idea is to check your network logs.  I had a card one time that kept connecting and reconnecting and I didn't noticed it -- it just seemed slow all of the time.
[06:51] <d4rkh4nd> po: network is better then wireless. less then 10~20 loss rate. you would never notice wven in HD
[06:51] <rkhshm> I"m trying to understand why the wifi direct mode on my sony is not detecting my cisco dongle...
[06:52] <poz> one component does not exist yet though. I am also looking for a 12 inch wireless touch screen monitor. basically like a tablet with out the os and have it connect to be pc
[06:52] <n0rwack> MrSalt: Well, it works decent when im close to the router, so i doubt its the card. Im thinking outdated driver or unstable driver etc
[06:52] <rkhshm> i have a wifi router that is being detected by the cisco dongle .. to the same wifi direct my laptops can connect.
[06:52] <poz> that way my pc can see if my office and I can have control of it and my entertainment in another room
[06:52] <poz> can sit in my office*
[06:52] <rkhshm> But only my desktop running 12.04 with cisco dongle cannot detect.. any ideas?
[06:52] <d4rkh4nd> pos: Toshiba would be my first option if i had the cash lol
[06:53] <abetusk> Muphrid, I just installed libglibmm-2.4-dev and now it's complaining that it can't find gdkmm-2.4.  So progress
[06:54] <Muphrid> abetusk: you need header files (-dev) to compile from source in debian-based systems, just keep installing the headers for what it asks
[06:54] <MrSalt> n0rwack: Those are tough problems to detect.  I'm just the peanut gallery, and I don't have much experience there.
[06:54] <abetusk> Muphrid, thanks.  I can't seem to find gtkmm though..
[06:55] <Muphrid> abetusk: libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[06:55] <Muphrid> there is also a 3.0 version,not sure which one it is asking
[06:56] <rkhshm> any ideas guys?
[06:56] <hepo> hello guys
[06:56] <hepo> Who help me?
[06:56] <hepo> When I installed Ubuntu studio my computer dont load
[06:57] <hepo> why?
[06:58] <dr_willis> well. thats one way to not get help hepo....
[06:58] <dr_willis> rkhshm:  you should determine the exact chipset its using.
[06:59] <abetusk> Muphrid, thanks, got it all installed and the configure script went through
[06:59] <rkhshm> Dr_Willis: chipset of what? the cisco dongle?
[07:00] <dr_willis> yes. Its all about the chipset. not the maker.
[07:00] <Muphrid> abetusk: alright, you can search for the packages in synaptic or 'aptitude search' if youre into cli
[07:00] <abetusk> I like 'apt-cache search' because I'm more familiar with the command line, but thank you
[07:01] <dr_willis> some chipsets may need exctra drivers. or may use differnt drivers some of which could be buggy. or have other limitations
[07:01] <dr_willis> im not even sure what 'wifi direct' means.. is that an ad-hoc network?
[07:02] <moon`> so I did sudo apt-get update and now when I logon my screen resolution is all screwed up.   I went to nvidia x server settings and it says 'You do not appear to be using the nvidia x driver' Please edit your X configuration file (just run nvidia x-config as root)
[07:02] <moon`> typing nvidia x-config in terminal doesn't do anything though
[07:03] <dr_willis> moon`:  reinstall the nvidia drivers perhaps?
[07:03] <moon`> giver her a shot!
[07:04] <rkhshm> Dr_Willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct
[07:04] <dr_willis> i got no web browser handy. ;)
[07:04] <rkhshm> lol..
[07:04] <dr_willis> On my Raspberry Pi - on the console..
[07:04] <dr_willis> Silent COmputing! ;P
[07:04] <rkhshm> yeah its sort of a ad-hoc network .. it bypasses the router and requries no AP
[07:04] <Muphrid> moon`: what is the output of nvidia x-config ?
[07:04] <dr_willis> sounds exactly like an ad-hoc network. ;P
[07:05] <dr_willis> with a fancy sony name?
[07:05] <moon`> nvidia command not found
[07:05] <dr_willis> I was thinking id read/seen where not all wifi cards/drivers support ad-hoc network. but i cant site a source of that.
[07:05] <dr_willis> moon`:  err.. theres no nvidia command. ;) how did you install your nvidia drivers befor?
[07:06] <moon`> with ubuntu software center I think
[07:07] <dr_willis> moon`:  you should be able to 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current' to verify/reinstall them..
[07:07] <moon`> nvidia-current is already the latest version
[07:07] <moon`> err newest version
[07:08] <Muphrid> moon`: did you install nvidia-legacy and current at the same time?
[07:08] <dr_willis> Hmm. Im out of  ideas then. Other then to remove/reinstall them..  You could try booting an older kenrel at the grub menu also as a test.. if the older kernel works.. but a newer one dosent. that points to a bug somewhere
[07:09] <moon`> I don't think so, this all came about because I'm trying to get eveonline to work in wine.  I installed mesa 7.xx something and rebooted and this happened
[07:09] <moon`> Muphrid: I was going to install legacy but it wouldn't let me, said the version of legacy wasn't supported by my GPU
[07:09] <dr_willis> Im not even sure why you would need to install mesa
[07:09] <moon`> which isn't what the documentation told me on the nvidia site
[07:09] <Muphrid> moon`: what is your gpu model?
[07:09] <moon`> 7950 GT
[07:10] <moon`> I kept getting an error when I would run eve saying I need SM3 support to run the game but the 7950's I have do supprt s3
[07:10] <moon`> sm3
[07:11] <moon`> so I was looking at work around's and one of the ones I came across said to install mesa reboot and everything worked for them
[07:11] <moon`> well now my resolution is like 600x800 and I can't open my nvidia x-config settings manager to change it
[07:11] <SpamapS> Somebody please tell me this isn't true.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[07:12] <Muphrid> moon`: ok, so, it was working until you installed nvidia from software center?
[07:12] <moon`> No it was working until I installed mesa, did sudo apt-get update and rebooted
[07:12] <SpamapS> all of the answers are.. *crazy* complicated and most don't work on 12.10 :-P
[07:13] <thufir_> how many MB in a DVD?  I'm using DAR archiver and creating slices, and want, let's say, ten slices per DVD.  how many MB per slice?
[07:14] <Muphrid> moon`: so youre using mesa for 3d?
[07:14] <jcbv> i need some help with my crappy ati 200m driver i guess its dead any work arounds
[07:15] <NorahAura> SpamapS: I found a similar complexity with xfce on Ubuntu Studio, however, there was a third party GUI menu editor I was able to eventually locate, maybe there is something similar for Unity?
[07:15] <moon`> whoops
[07:15] <jcbv> can i ask a question
[07:15] <moon`> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD JUST ASK JCBV DON'T ASK IF YOU CAN
[07:15] <moon`> ffs
[07:15] <moon`> sorry
[07:15] <NorahAura> jcbv: yes, please
[07:16] <moon`> little vodka in me tonight
[07:16] <NorahAura> moon: lolz
[07:16] <MonkWitDaFunk> jcbv. do you have a driver you need to install?
[07:16] <jcbv> anyone know whats the earliest version of ubuntu will run gnome 3.6
[07:16] <NorahAura> so, moon, y are you using mesa?
[07:17] <moon`> Cause that's what the workaround I read said to use
[07:17] <NorahAura> moon: for what issue, may I ask?
[07:17] <moon`> I don't actually ever know what I'm doing when it comes to linux.  The majority of my fixes come from 'UH OH!  Problem'  *google problem*  *find solution*  *copy paste solution into terminal* and then go from there
[07:18] <moon`> I'd probably have more success beating my head against the keyboard but I'm to much of a sissy for that
[07:18] <jcbv> im ticked
[07:18] <moon`> Trying to get eveonline to work NorahAura
[07:18] <NorahAura> moon: I am an expert googler... maybe my google ninja skills can help?
[07:18] <jcbv> ok i got my cube running cool with this this gnome 3.6 classic
[07:18] <moon`> I need some expert ubuntu-fix-newb-screw-up-skillz
[07:18] <moon`> not googler skillz =)
[07:19] <jcbv> on one pc but my laptop wont do the cube
[07:19] <jcbv> darn ati driver
[07:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> jcbv, do you need to pay for a driver?
[07:20] <Muphrid> moon`: what was the mesa package you installed?
[07:21] <jcbv> pay this is opensource linux go joint all the mactards or windows weenies for some tea or something
[07:21] <moon`> Muphrid: this is the command I ran that fubared everything :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[07:21] <moon`> then I did a sudo apt-get update and a reboot and now here I am
[07:21] <Muphrid> moon`: this is a ppa for xorg testers/developers not users
[07:22] <Muphrid> you can revert the changes with ppa-purge
[07:22] <NorahAura> moon: ugh... yeah... stuff you don't want unless you are testing and such
[07:22] <NorahAura> Muphrid: thx, ditto!
[07:22] <Muphrid> if your driver does not require the latest version
[07:22] <jcbv> who knows the bigggest reason no apps are on linux
[07:22] <NorahAura> jcbv : lots of apps are on linux, what kind are you looking for?
[07:23] <moon`> so what sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers?
[07:23] <moon`> I hope so cause I just typed that in
[07:23] <jcbv> dude i been through em all man they blow turds
[07:23] <Muphrid> no
[07:23] <moon`> well poop
[07:23] <Muphrid> you have to install ppa-purge and then
[07:23] <moon`> well yeah I did that
[07:23] <Muphrid> sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[07:23] <Muphrid> full ppa address
[07:24] <jcbv> i just love my linux desktop though im brainwashed by linux
[07:24] <NorahAura> jcbv: do you have a Q? or just wanna complain?
[07:24] <jcbv> yeah i have a big question
[07:24] <moon`> well that sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa didn't work but sudo ppa-purge xorg edgers did so I'm running with that
[07:25] <jcbv>  whats the eariest version of ubuntu that will run gnome 3.6
[07:25] <Muphrid> moon`: Not sure why but ok then
[07:25] <moon`> =)
[07:25] <jcbv> cause i need compiz cube with gnome 3.6 on crappy ati 200m
[07:26] <somsip> jcbv: this should tell you, but it's PPA and not supported https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[07:26] <NorahAura> Muphrid - would moon hafta do an apt-get update and reboot, I would guess?
[07:26] <aeon-ltd> jcbv: any that can satisfy the dependencies and not have any conflicts
[07:26] <MonkWitDaFunk> whats a compiz cube?
[07:26] <somsip> MonkWitDaFunk: effect when you change workspaces; http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/compiz_cube.jpg
[07:26] <Muphrid> NorahAura: apt-get update only fetches data from the repository, it doesnt modify anything. upgrade is not needed with ppa-purge although it doesnt hurt if youre paranoid
[07:27] <Muphrid> reboot is still necessary
[07:28] <jcbv> i dont know what to do i suck at linux lol
[07:29] <jcbv> i think 10.04 supports it but maybe not
[07:30] <somsip> jcbv: I've given you a link to the answer about gnome 3.6/ The answer is 'quantal, and 3.6 PPA is not supported here'
[07:31] <subdesign> anyone know is there a problem with Intel GMA3600 series yet, with ubuntu?
[07:31] <NorahAura> Muphrid: ahh... good to know, and yes, I am a bit paranoid... lolz
[07:32] <moon`> hmm neither one of those worked Muphrid
[07:32] <moon`> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: xorg-edgers ppa
[07:32] <anli__> If I had to kill an apt-get process, how do I unlock /var/lib/dpkg afterwards?
[07:32] <MonkWitDaFunk> subdesign, which ubuntu are you trying to install?
[07:32] <NorahAura> somsip: I would like that link you found... was just on the hunt for it, wonder if I was close
[07:32] <somsip> anli__: sudo apt-get clean
[07:32] <Muphrid> moon`: yeah thats why you should put ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa instead
[07:32] <jcbv> crap
[07:32] <anli__> somsip: thanks!
[07:33] <somsip> NorahAura: what link? Gnome 3.6 PPA?
[07:33] <jcbv> anyway to install ati drivers on outaded hardware
[07:33] <subdesign> MonkWitDaFunk, I'm just asking, I'm before buying..
[07:33] <NorahAura> somsip: yes, please
[07:33] <Muphrid> jcbv: what version of ubuntu?
[07:33] <somsip> NorahAura: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[07:33] <jcbv> 12.04
[07:33] <moon`> I get the same error putting that Muphrid
[07:34] <milamber> !hardware | subdesign
[07:34] <NorahAura> somsip: that's where I was...  where did you find the OS version support info... I am blind tonight
[07:34] <Muphrid> moon`: huh, either there is a typo or it got somehow removed from software sources
[07:34] <anli__> Seems liike /var/cache/debconfig/config.dat still is locked
[07:34] <milamber> moon`: installing the ppa, running sudo apt-get update, and restarting would not have caused the problem you are describing. did you install a package from that ppa? and if you want help please pastebin the contents of your sources.list file
[07:35] <NorahAura> somsip: nm, I found it
[07:35] <somsip> NorahAura: the bit where it says what version of Gnome....ah, ok
[07:35] <ASHER1> Hello i want please ask the question i have linux mint 13 and i want change to ubuntu how i did this?
[07:35] <Muphrid> jcbv: it should be installable through "additional drivers" in 12.04
[07:35] <jcbv> its empty
[07:35] <jcbv> nothing there
[07:36] <jcbv> card is not supported
[07:36] <jcbv> actually
[07:36] <moon`> how do I do that milamber?
[07:36] <Muphrid> mmm
[07:36] <moon`> and no that truly is all I did
[07:36] <milamber> anli__: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/810-unblocking-apt-get
[07:36] <moon`> ahhh, the patience of those involved in tech support must know no end
[07:36] <Muphrid> moon`: post your sources here http://pastebin.com/
[07:37] <milamber> !pastebin > moon`
[07:37] <ASHER1> ?
[07:37] <milamber> ASHER1: linux mint is not supported here and there is no quick changeover, download an ubuntu iso and do a fresh install
[07:38] <ASHER1> but i have problem with install ubuntu if i download ubuntu i see error
[07:38] <somsip> ASHER1: just install Ubuntu on the partitions used by Mint to overwrite eveyrthing and start from scratch. If you don't want to start from scratch, backup the files you want to keep. Don't expect much interoperability
[07:40] <ASHER1> ?
[07:40] <moon`> =/ hrm I don't know how to open/view the contets of sources.list
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> moon`: text editor?
[07:40] <Crell> nano is your friend.
[07:41] <Muphrid> moon`: /etc/apt/sources.list it shoujld ve viewable with gedit
[07:41] <Muphrid> should be*
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> to write though you'd need to be root
[07:42] <moon`> http://pastebin.com/Ck6ajXJU
[07:43] <skimini> Hi ...the live usb I'm creating with 'persistent' option, is not actually working as 'persistent'. Have tried numerous times with Unetbootin and with Linux Live USB. Any ideas please?
[07:43] <moon`> gedit was what I needed, I knew more linux commands when I ran gentoo but I haven't used linux for the better part of 2 years now =/
[07:43] <jcbv> gnome 3 blows or what
[07:44] <milamber> moon`: can you provide a link to the "fix" site you were using? what tutorial were you trying to follow?
[07:45] <moon`> http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534033
[07:45] <moon`> scroll all the way to the bottom
[07:45] <moon`> last post by khardia
[07:45] <jcbv> i guess no hope for me
[07:45] <moon`> all I did was install mesa and reboot
[07:46] <Muphrid> moon`: in reality all you needed is nvidia drivers and playonlinux which has a frontend to eve installation
[07:47] <moon`> okay, so in real real reality how do I get it so I can fix my screen resolution and then go that route Muphrid ?
[07:47] <moon`> because I already had nvidia drivers
[07:47] <chalist> how i can mount a folder in local network like //172.30.12.37/afs/ to my home in terminal?
[07:47] <skimini> persistent live usb is not persistent ...can anyone offer any suggestions?
[07:47] <milamber> moon`: sorry, i missed the initial response
[07:47] <moon`> and eveonline installed the reason I was trying that workaround is I was getting an error saying I needed graphics cards that support Shader Modeling 3.0
[07:48] <chalist> how i can mount a folder in local network like //172.30.12.37/afs/ to my home in terminal?
[07:48] <moon`> repeating the question doesn't get it answered faster chalist ffs be patient
[07:48] <moon`> you asked your second questions 23 seconds after the first one, how does that help anyone besides annoy them?
[07:49] <Muphrid> moon`: what is your xorg version?
[07:49] <chalist> moon`, sorry :)
[07:49] <milamber> !fstab | chalist
[07:49] <moon`> I'm sorry you have to walk me through this like a toddler but I don't know how to find out the version mu
[07:49] <moon`> Muphrid:  rather
[07:50] <moon`> I imagine it's the latest up to date
[07:50] <milamber> moon`: apt-cache policy xorg
[07:50] <Muphrid> apt-cache show xorg
[07:50] <jmb70056> how do i transfer files from one user account to another user account
[07:50] <moon`> Installed: 1:7.7+1ubuntu4
[07:50] <Muphrid> ok
[07:51] <cmell> "cp" copies files pretty well
[07:51] <milamber> jmb70056: can you be more specific? you can sudo cp <file> <directory/to/newfile> (to move use mv instead of cp)
[07:51] <MonkWitDaFunk> does anyone have any opinions about clamav or free avg for ubuntu?
[07:52] <milamber> jmb70056: if you are worried about permissions and the like, you have to use chown (CHange the OWNer)
[07:52] <milamber> !poll
[07:53] <milamber> moon`: would you be willing to pastebin the last 30 or so lines from your .bash_history (this is a log of all the commands you have run in the terminal)?
[07:53] <MonkWitDaFunk> how do i have a list of all the directories i need to do a free avg full system scan?
[07:53] <Muphrid> moon`: what if you uninstall mesa?
[07:53] <moon`> milamber: yeah as long as you don't judge me
[07:53] <moon`> and where do I find the file milamber
[07:54] <chalist> ubottu, i add this folder and has been added in nautilus sidebar. but when i click that, i see an error that "mount: only root can mount"
[07:54] <Muphrid> moon`: it is in your home folder, hidden file
[07:54] <Muphrid> ctrl+h to show up in nautilus
[07:54] <milamber> moon`: no judging, the reason i am interested is because the commands you ran are not supposed to change anything. the add repository just adds the repository to the list that is allowed to be downloaded. aptitude update just updates the package list. nothing there downloads or installs any packages.
[07:54] <milamber> moon`: nano ~/.bash_profile
[07:55] <chalist> milamber,  i add this folder and has been added in nautilus sidebar. but when i click that, i see an error that "mount: only root can mount"
[07:55] <milamber> moon`: or the way Muphrid said if you prefer the gui :)
[07:55] <milamber> chalist: you would have to tell me what command you used to add the folder
[07:56] <moon`> gedit ~/.bash_profile  is an empty file
[07:56] <Muphrid> .bash_history it is
[07:56] <jmb70056> @milamber i just want to transfer a few photos from one account to another account
[07:57] <chalist> milamber,  //172.30.12.37/afs/ /home/my/afs37 cifs user=afs,pass=123456,auto,exec,umask=002,gid=1000,uid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[07:58] <w0rm-_x> every time I log into Ubuntu 12.04 LTS in my two different computers I get an error: System program problem detected    whats this about its annoying
[07:58] <hell_razer> i have ssh problem, i can login via ssh -i XXX.pem root@XXX, but sshfs -o IdentityFile=XXX.pem root@XXX/ ./ssh_root - > Connection closed by XXX [preauth]
[07:58] <moon`> http://pastebin.com/nTXN2AED
[07:58] <moon`> more then you asked for but hopefully helpfull enough
[07:59] <moon`> I never actually installed any additional nvidia drivers though there towards the end cause it kept giving me an error saying my GPU wasn't supported by those drivers
[07:59] <moon`> and I ended up exiting out of the install window
[07:59] <NorahAura> moon`: got distracted researching eveonline, but Muphrid and milamber have you taken care of here - I had the same thought - the tutorial you followed may have updated mesa if you had it previously installed, after adding the ppa, but it does not appear to have a direct command to install mesa, so mesa may not be the culprit
[07:59] <moon`> thanks NorahAura
[08:00] <moon`> I probably pulled some other dumb move, we'll see
[08:00] <moon`> on the flip side I'm really enjoying the camaraderie in here right now
[08:02] <NorahAura> moon`: are you able to run x?
[08:02] <moon`> I'm in X right now I imagine, ubuntu 12.10 automatically runs X when you start doesn't it?
[08:02] <moon`> I mean I'm in a GUI
[08:02] <NorahAura> moon`: ok, good
[08:02] <Muphrid> yes youre in X
[08:02] <milamber> moon`: is the only issue the wrong resolution on the login screen
[08:02] <milamber> ?
[08:03] <NorahAura> moon`: so, just in low graphics mode right now, correct?
[08:03] <moon`> milamber: I can't change resolution in the NVidia X server settings right now
[08:03] <NorahAura> moon`: nvidia drivers have always been a bit wonky for me.... this is what works: Goto your Applications Menu>System>Additional Drivers
[08:04] <moon`> when I run it, it says you do not appear to be running the nvidia-x driver please edit your configuration file
[08:04] <NorahAura> moon`: anything there?
[08:04] <moon`> Applications Menu>System Tools
[08:04] <moon`> ?
[08:04] <Muphrid> moon`: is the package "mesa" installed?
[08:04] <moon`> I belive so Muphrid
[08:05] <Muphrid> what happens if you try to remove it?
[08:05] <moon`> I never unistalled it after installing
[08:05] <ranjan> Hi all, How to log every command on terminal to syslog by all users?
[08:05] <Muphrid> I noticed it is only in that ppa, not in the repos
[08:05] <moon`> lets roll the dice and find out, gimme a command to remove it
[08:05] <milamber> moon`: run: lshw -c video
[08:05] <Muphrid> sudo apt-get purge mesa
[08:05] <NorahAura> moon`: whenever my linux headers get updated, for instance, it screws up my nvidia drivers and I a have to uninstall nvidia, reboot, install nvidia again, reboot
[08:05] <milamber> moon`: look for the line with configuration, that will tell us what driver you are actually using
[08:05] <Muphrid> moon`: does it ask to remove additional software?
[08:06] <NorahAura> moon`: I find it is easiest to install nvidia drivers using ubuntu's "Additional Drivers" installer which is fashioned after mesa was first developed
[08:06] <moon`>  configuration: latency=0
[08:07] <moon`> Muphrid: no mesa isn't installed
[08:08] <milamber> ranjan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93566/how-to-log-all-bash-commands-by-all-users-on-a-server
[08:08] <moon`> milamber: http://pastebin.com/YZD4iWnn
[08:08] <NorahAura> moon`: is nvidia listed as currently installed under Menu>Settings/Prefs>Additional Drivers?
[08:08] <kernsprog> ranjan: command logs are found at ~/.bash_history
[08:09] <moon`> NorahAura: I don't even have a menu>settings/prefs>additional drivers
[08:09] <NorahAura> I love this pastebin... haven't been on IRC for quite a while... really nifty :)
[08:10] <NorahAura> moon`: oh, sorry, what version of ubuntu are you using again?
[08:10] <moon`> 12.10
[08:10] <NorahAura> I am on ubuntu studio'
[08:10] <Muphrid> it is in the unity dash or menu
[08:10] <NorahAura> which uses xfce
[08:10] <NorahAura> yeah, what Muphrid said :)
[08:10] <moon`> cinnamon, but it looks more like gnome
[08:11] <moon`> let's just say I'm using traditional gnome
[08:11] <NorahAura> cinnamon, I thought that was for mint
[08:11] <Muphrid> then it should be in "system", else the package name for reference is jockey-gtk
[08:11] <kubanc> hellow! Is it possible to resize partitions with gparted. I have 3 partitions on SSD disk. One is for system (10GB), one for home (90GB) and one is left free (10GB)
[08:11] <moon`> I've got an applications menu in the upper left hand corner
[08:12] <jmb70056> @milamber i just want to transfer a few photos from one account to another account
[08:12] <milamber> jmb70056: different user accounts on the same machine?
[08:13] <milamber> kubanc: yes, but you have to do it from a live cd
[08:13] <jmb70056> yes
[08:13] <NorahAura> ahh... yes, Additional Drivers may not be in your cinnamon menu
[08:13] <kubanc> milamber, yes, because right now the partitions are mounted...
[08:13] <moon`> no it's not NorahAura =P
[08:13] <Muphrid> moon`: just install jockey-gtk if not installed, or run it from a terminal
[08:14] <milamber> jmb70056: honestly, the easiest way would probably be to save them to a thumb drive (fat doesn't acknowledge user permissions) and then switch accounts and copy them over
[08:14] <NorahAura> moon`: press ALT+F2, then type jockey-gtk
[08:14] <ranjan> milamber, let me check that link , thank you.
[08:14] <moon`> hold on, installing it
[08:15] <NorahAura> jmb70056: take a look at this method: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=678a7f738a279cff0bea58487da33fd9&p=11377130&postcount=2
[08:15] <jmb70056> @milamber okay i will do that then thank you.
[08:15] <moon`> so I installed it, tried to run it, said it is currently not installed
[08:15] <jmb70056> @NorahAura okay
[08:17] <destiny_> GNOME 3.6 has been out for months, why is it not in unstable..?
[08:17] <destiny_>  GNOME 3.6 has been out for months, why is it not in unstable..?
[08:18] <Muphrid> moon`: is it showing up in the menu?
[08:18] <destiny_> yes
[08:18] <destiny_> You use ubuntu operating system
[08:18] <moon`> Muphrid: no
[08:19] <destiny_> You are that country
[08:19] <NorahAura> moon`: Did you try running jocket-gtk?
[08:19] <Muphrid> jockey-gtk
[08:19] <moon`> I tried ru nning jocket-gtk and jockey-gtk cause I kept making that same typo
[08:19] <moon`> neither worked
[08:19] <NorahAura> yes, thx for the correction
[08:20] <Muphrid> if you type ' ls /usr/bin | grep joc ' do you get any result?
[08:20] <NorahAura> lolz, moon`, try installing jockey-gtk
[08:20] <moon`> been there NorahAura, look up ;)
[08:20] <NorahAura> moon`:  oh, god, ok, thx
[08:20] <moon`> no results, just another command prompt
[08:21] <moon`> moon@moon-monster:/$ ls /usr/bin | grep joc
[08:21] <moon`> moon@moon-monster:/$
[08:21] <Muphrid> uh, it didnt install then
[08:21] <NorahAura> moon`: try running jockey-gtk from the terminal, it should tell you why it didn't run
[08:22] <moon`> Muphrid: http://pastebin.com/2MbqyLhQ
[08:22] <moon`> I'm doing all of this from the terminal NorahAura
[08:23] <moon`> It's saying it's not installed when I install it it's saying it is already the latest version
[08:23] <Muphrid> what if you purge and then reinstrall
[08:23] <jesue123> hey anyone is here?
[08:23] <Muphrid> reinstall*
[08:24] <NorahAura> moon`:  what Muphrid said :)
[08:24] <jesue123> reboot   system boot  3.6.7-030607-gen Thu Dec 27 12:35 - 13:52  (01:16)
[08:24] <moon`> purge jockey-jtk?
[08:24] <moon`> or is there a dif command?
[08:24] <jesue123> what is the meaning of that
[08:24] <moon`> because purge gave me the middle finger
[08:24] <Muphrid> sudo apt-get purge jockey-gtk && sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[08:24] <moon`> jesue123: type reboot now
[08:24] <jesue123> and
[08:24] <moon`> hit enter
[08:25] <milamber> moon` NorahAura: bug 1028361
[08:25] <moon`> yeah that's what's happening
[08:25] <Muphrid> ah
[08:25] <moon`> thanks for clearing that up milamber, I was about to start mashing my head against the desk
[08:26] <jesue123> anye one tell me channel name where i can ask about the linux log file
[08:26] <NorahAura> ubottu: was just looking at that one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/1028361
[08:26] <jesue123> for some information
[08:26] <moon`> nothing against you guys though, you're all being extremely helpful I'm just inebriated and frustrated
[08:26] <milamber> !info software-properties-gtk
[08:27] <NorahAura> moon`: I did get a bug report upon first install of ubuntu studio 12.10 regarding jockey-gtk
[08:28] <NorahAura> moon`: however, after updates and reboot, no longer had a crash report pop-up for it
[08:30] <moon`> a
[08:30] <OerHeks> hi jakub, back with your clones again ?
[08:30] <NorahAura> milamber: just getting into IRC again like I said... so, that info command, that was to the server bot tell us more info about that package?
[08:30] <moon`> look I just really want to change the resolution back to something manageable
[08:30] <moon`> this is starting to make my eyes bleed
[08:30] <Muphrid> moon`: did you get your way into the driver section in software properties?
[08:31] <milamber> NorahAura: yes
[08:31] <moon`> no Muphrid
[08:32] <NorahAura> moon`: press ALT+F2, then type software-properties-gtk
[08:32] <NorahAura> or run it from terminal
[08:32] <NorahAura> moon`: Software Sources should appear
[08:32] <Muphrid> Additional drivers should be the last tab
[08:33] <moon`> okay I'm that far
[08:34] <moon`> going to use experimental 304 nvidia drivers
[08:34] <Muphrid> alright
[08:34] <NorahAura> moon`:  wait!
[08:34] <NorahAura> moon`
[08:34] <moon`> yeah?
[08:34] <NorahAura> moon`: just simply uncheck/uninstall the nvidia driver you have selected
[08:35] <NorahAura> moon`: then reboot
[08:35] <NorahAura> moon`: then install the recommended again
[08:35] <NorahAura> moon`: I know it sounds stupid, but it has worked miracles for me in the past
[08:35] <moon`> There wasn't an nvidia driver selected
[08:35] <moon`> it was a driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[08:35] <moon`> and the experimental 304 is the one I was using before hand
[08:36] <NorahAura> moon`: oh, ok, yes, then do that lolz
[08:36] <moon`> brb
[08:36] <Muphrid> aight
[08:36] <cub> why does linux suck
[08:36] <Muphrid> debates on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <cub> oh okay
[08:37] <NorahAura> Muphrid: are you a moderator.. you are like an IRC god to me right now!
[08:37] <Muphrid> Lol
[08:38] <Muphrid> only been in this channel like 10 times
[08:38] <vrex> lol
[08:39] <moon`> oh for the love of all that is holy it went back to normal, thank you guys for your help
[08:39] <NorahAura> Muphrid: yeah, just been a loooooooong time for me
[08:39] <moon`> I still can't get eve to work though, what was the suggestion earlier about running eve?
[08:39] <NorahAura> moon`: YAY!!!!
[08:39] <Muphrid> NorahAura: I usually hang on the trisquel channel, this one is eventual
[08:40] <Muphrid> moon`: Nice, at the end all you had to do is install the driver xD
[08:40] <Muphrid> was*
[08:40] <moon`> No I had the driver
[08:41] <NorahAura> moon`: did you try these steps: http://eve-search.com/thread/172086-1
[08:41] <Muphrid> moon`: just install PlayOnLinux
[08:42] <Muphrid> it will do the frontend to install eve at the best settings
[08:42] <moon`> okay, thanks muphrid
[08:42] <milamber> !yay | moon`
[08:43] <g-host> what is this im a newbie
[08:45] <boichev> anyone willing to help me copy my 1 TB raid 1 to a normal 500gb disk I only used 55GB of data and a linux installment.... If I remount it readonly and DD the /dev/md0 to the other hdd will it work ?
[08:46] <iDangerMouse> It should
[08:52] <NorahAura> Muphrid: how do I get a list of bot commands
[08:53] <Muphrid> NorahAura: I dont know about bots actually
[08:53] <Muphrid> never used them
[08:53] <Mouse|Sleep> NorahAura
[08:53] <Mouse|Sleep> https://github.com/sharedferret/Sparkle-Turntable-Bot/wiki/Bot-commands
[08:54] <NorahAura> lolz, thought I saw you use one, sorry, it was milamber
[08:54] <NorahAura> thx Mouse|Sleep
[08:54] <Muphrid> yes
[08:54] <Mouse|Sleep> back to bed
[08:54] <Flannel> ubottu: tell NorahAura about yourself
[08:57] <Muphrid> NorahAura: gotta sleep now, good luck with POL moon`
[08:58] <NorahAura> Muphrid: ok, and thank you... checking out trisquel, sounds quite interesting :)
[08:58] <NorahAura> aww, he left, lolz
[08:59] <Mouse|Sleep> bloody hell cant sleep
[09:00] <milamber> !bot > NorahAura
[09:01] <Mouse|Annoyed> sup milamber
[09:01] <NorahAura> Mouse|Annoyed - Enya and/or random sci-fi episode always worked for me
[09:01] <vrex> its 4am and I'm still here :/
[09:01] <milamber> Mouse|Annoyed: not much
[09:02] <Mouse|Annoyed> NorahAura: For ?
[09:02] <pecorade> Hi.
[09:02] <Mouse|Annoyed> Hello.
[09:02] <NorahAura> Mouse|Annoyed - those things help me to sleep
[09:02] <Mouse|Annoyed> Oh okay.
[09:03] <Mouse|Annoyed> gnc melatonin
[09:04] <FUZxxl> Hello!
[09:04] <epx998> There a fix for ubuntu 12.10 and nvidia, i installed the source and headers, just made things worse.
[09:05] <epx998> now unity doesnt even start after i log in
[09:05] <epx998> stuck in console mode after a fresh install :|
[09:06] <FUZxxl> How can I *permanently* stop a service started through runsv?
[09:07] <epx998> chkconfig in redhat, doubt its same for ubuntu
[09:07] <NorahAura> epx998: I've never had good luck with nvidia base installation on ubuntu, always had to wait for the ubuntu flavor to be released, seems to be something to do with the X server/gdm implementation, etc...
[09:07] <shinao1_> hi.. im running sylpheed in ubuntu 12.10 with IMAP4 email accounts set to refresh every 3 minutes. every few minutes i try to send an email it complains of SMTP auth errors, and I have to save the draft email ,and relaunch sylpheed. 10 minutes later its the same story. Please what could be going on?
[09:08] <epx998> yeah new install and im fubar
[09:08] <epx998> very sad
[09:08] <epx998> going back to mint cinnamon in a sec, worked a lot better.
[09:08] <epx998> 12.10 and 14 are buh
[09:11] <epx998> everything worked great on my older duo core w/intel raphics
[09:11] <NorahAura> hey, I have a better one for you - on ubuntu studio 12.10 - fresh install, decided I wanted to change my main user's username, using the GUI, couldn't change it, wouldn't set, so I created a new user, set as admin, log off, log on new user, went in to delete old user, saw that was setup as custom user, set as admin, then all of a sudden my windows were drawing properly, so, reboot (went fine), attempted to install vlc, couldn't said I
[09:11] <NorahAura> couldn't authenticate, long story short my user wasn't a member on the sudoers list... was forced to re-install
[09:12] <epx998> didnt think you needed a sudoers with su -
[09:13] <NorahAura> I couldn't use su because it wasn't enabled and I couldn't enable it cause my regular admin user was not on the sudoers list
[09:13] <NorahAura> it was a logic loop of doom lockout
[09:14] <NorahAura> luckily, I hadn't done much
[09:14] <NorahAura> in fact I am about to reboot and install additional updates... wish me luck!
[09:24] <winnerrre> http://www.carolinaherrera.com/212/es/areyouonthelist?share=4Y9fhwXQQ7Mswio6hAClqdz2gzAqEjJq72G1oQgnhyd_9D3FDiouJG-c8M6ydir-FdOWaD_yCK1meXDLNBOfTw#episodio-7
[09:24] <thufir_> do these inode messages indicate hard disc failure?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264203
[09:25] <Mouse|Annoyed> Hi NorahAura
[09:26] <NorahAura> hello Mouse|Annoyed - I survived! :)
[09:26] <KamZou> Hi, i changed the target (changed the server ip) of a nfs mount point on my clients. When i try to mount -a it "freezes" ... I've to reboot clients to mount it correctly. Any workaround ?
[09:26] <NorahAura> now, into installing my Nvidia drivers... dun.dun.DUNN!!!
[09:27] <penguinman> actually that's pretty painless these days
[09:27] <pepito> Hi can somebody tell me how give all root privileges to an already created user ? Please tell me.
[09:28] <NorahAura> penguinman: there were a bunch of ppl having trouble with nvidia drivers in the past hour, I don't have trouble since ubuntu moved to jockey-gtk
[09:28] <thufir_> pepito: have you read man page on sudo?
[09:28] <NorahAura> pepito - you have to add the user to the sudoers list
[09:29] <penguinman> NorahAura, i've always done it through the terminal. currently on the 310 drivers actually
[09:30] <pepito> thufir, NorahAura : It's like %username ALL=(ALL) ALL in /etc/sudoers
[09:30] <NorahAura> penguiman - look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:31] <thufir_> do these inode messages indicate hard disc failure?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264203   or, is that a problem with DAR?
[09:32] <NorahAura> !sudo | penguinman
[09:34] <NorahAura> lolz, wish I knew about the fixsudo page about 2 hours ago
[09:35] <Mouse|Annoyed> I am eating
[09:39] <pepito> up please
[09:40] <NorahAura> sorry, penguinman, meant to send bot command to pepito, lolz
[09:41] <NorahAura> !sudo | pepito
[09:41]  * Mouse|Annoyed sudos NorahAura fail :P
[09:41] <thufir_> what do these inode messages indicate please?
[09:41] <thufir_> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/264203
[09:41] <NorahAura> pepito: look about halfway down the page... here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Allowing_other_users_to_run_sudo
[09:42] <pepito> ok NorahAura, thanks :)
[09:42] <NorahAura> pepito: yw :)
[09:44] <NorahAura> ok, IRC room question: I assume a star in front of the line item is a message from the room/server?
[09:45] <mario_> server
[09:45] <Mouse|Annoyed> server
[09:47] <chmac> I have Evolution installed, I just installed Thunderbird, and Thunderbird asked for my gmail password and is showing all my Evolution contacts and the Gmail contacts I sync into Evolution in the Thunderbird address book. Is that normal? Will it go away if I uninstall Evolution?
[09:48] <mario_> NorahAura: who's true answer ?
[09:48] <thufir_> chmac: are you confusing tbird with evolution maybe?
[09:48] <chmac> thufir_: lol, alas, no...
[09:49] <chmac> thufir_: I open tb, I open the address book, boom, there are my evolution contacts, no import was performed.
[09:49] <chmac> thufir_: I am 99% sure it was a tb prompt asking for my gmail password because it blocked my other tb window until I ok / closed it.
[09:49] <monkeymon> hi
[09:50] <thufir_> chmac: dunno. maybe tbird is the default e-mail app and so gains access to evolution contacts...
[09:50] <chmac> thufir_: It could be that tbird has a plugin for the evolution data server as a backend.
[09:51] <chmac> thufir_: I can't find any way of cancelling it for example, or adding a new gmail address book, it's very strange, but even stranger that tbird asked for my gmail password...
[09:52] <chmac> Reading about somebody experiencing the same and having issues with the data http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1891521
[09:52] <pianotips> hello
[09:52] <pianotips> :)
[09:52] <zonetti> morning :)
[09:53] <pianotips> morning to you as well
[09:53] <aaOaa> .
[09:53] <aaOaa> .
[09:53] <aaOaa> .
[09:53] <aaOaa> .
[09:53] <aaOaa> .
[09:53] <FloodBot1> aaOaa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <shinao1_> hi.. im running sylpheed in ubuntu 12.10 with IMAP4 email accounts set to refresh every 3 minutes. every few minutes i try to send an email it complains of SMTP auth errors, and I have to save the draft email ,and relaunch sylpheed. 10 minutes later its the same story. Please what could be going on?
[09:53] <chmac> zonetti: Afternoon!
[09:54] <zonetti> chmac, it's a big world :D
[09:54] <trev_> I am trying to install and run serviio on ubuntu 12.10. I have downloaded and upacked the tar file but I can not get chmod to change the shell scripts to start the servers to executable. followinf is from the terminal
[09:54] <chmac> :-)
[09:54] <trev_> trev@pic:/media/trev/back/serviio-1.1/bin$ sudo chmod -v 777 serviio.sh
[09:54] <trev_> mode of `serviio.sh' changed from 0600 (rw-------) to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)
[09:54] <trev_> trev@pic:/media/trev/back/serviio-1.1/bin$ ll
[09:54] <trev_> total 8
[09:54] <trev_> drwx------ 1 trev trev  272 Dec 27 17:46 ./
[09:54] <FloodBot1> trev_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:54] <trev_> drwx------ 1 trev trev  456 Dec 27 17:46 ../
[09:54] <chmac> Wow, FloodBot2 is fast!
[09:55] <pianotips> um can i ask for a little help here? (first time here)
[09:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi pianotips
[09:56] <somsip> !ask | pianotips
[09:56] <shinao1_> go ahead pianotips
[09:56] <thufir_> chmac: even so, I'm unclear on what the problem is. is it a feature or advantage?
[09:57] <sets88> is there any professionals which can help me solve this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14052353/ip-route-src-not-working?
[09:57] <chmac> thufir_: Well, I'd like to uninstall evolution and know what effect that will have, whether the contacts were 1-time imported, will be kept in sync, etc.
[09:57] <pianotips> trying to install 12.04 64bit server..and i get an error that it cannot install the kernel package 'linux-server'?
[09:57] <chmac> thufir_: I could experiment, but it'd be nice to know without all the leg work... :-)
[09:58] <thufir_> uninstalling generally doesn't remove the files.  you want, IIRC, purge.
[09:58] <boichev> how to make md0 fake raid with disks that allready have raid data on them
[09:58] <thufir_> aptitutde purge thunderbird               should remove all tbird files.
[09:58] <chmac> thufir_: I'd guess the connection is with the evolution-data-server rather than the filesystem, but that's purely speculation.
[09:59] <thufir_> chmac: i would guess not. that sounds like huge privacy problem and invitation to black hat hackers. but mebbe.
[09:59] <pianotips> trying to install it on a dl580 g3.. if that makes a differnce.. ?
[09:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> !hardware
[09:59] <chmac> thufir_: Thunderbird is where I want to end up, I'm moving away from evolution...
[09:59] <chmac> thufir_: I can't see any alternative, I didn't give tbird my gmail or any source for the contacts.
[09:59] <chmac> thufir_: For exampe, install chrome, it auto-imports firefox history, etc I think.
[10:01] <FUZxxl> ssasou
[10:01] <FUZxxl> .sddsxsxxsxsxsxdcdcdcd
[10:02] <pianotips> gets almost al the way to the end of installing the base system.. then gives me a cannot install kernel error kernel package 'linux-server' ><
[10:03] <chmac> Well, that's all folks, have a great day :-)
[10:04] <MonkWitDaFunk> !badblocks
[10:05] <pianotips> sigh
[10:05] <pianotips> got booted
[10:05] <pianotips> ><
[10:05] <pianotips> what a night lol
[10:05] <trev_> Is there a response to my post on why I van't get chmod to make ky files executable?
[10:05] <pianotips> !patience
[10:05] <joey8> ky file?
[10:07] <llutz> trev_: what filesystem are the files on? non-unix fs like ntfs/vfat? then you cannot use chown/chmod, use mount-options (uid/gid/umask)
[10:07] <MonkWitDaFunk> the ext4 filesystem
[10:07] <trev_> ok bye, I'll come back later if I can't the answer elsewhere, my question is back a few pages.
[10:07] <llutz> trev_: also check if "noexec" option is set
[10:08] <llutz> !pastebin | trev_:  and next time please use this
[10:08] <MonkWitDaFunk> sorry. my ubuntu system is using the ext4 filesystem
[10:09] <riderplus> in 12.10 gnome 3 everything is up to date but I can't find my keyboard layout on the top panel. if i switch to gnome classic, it shows up
[10:09] <riderplus> how can I switch between the different layouts in gnome 3?
[10:09] <sets88> anybody?
[10:10] <srhb> riderplus: I personally set a keybinding to do the switching.
[10:10] <Mortu> can you tell me where i can get help via activation nvidia drivers in ubuntu 12.04LTS 32bit?  THX
[10:10] <riderplus> srhb how can I set it? I repeat, the keyboard layout doesn't show up on the top panel in gnome 3
[10:10] <riderplus> it's a known bug
[10:10] <MonkWitDaFunk> has anyone ever herd of the linux professional institute. i was wondering if they were widely recognized
[10:11] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. can someone help me?
[10:11] <thufir_> LOL.  when DAR finishes its run, what's the message to let you know?
[10:11] <pianotips> (please :)
[10:11] <cub> pianotips, maybe its a bad dvd burn?\
[10:12] <srhb> riderplus: System settings -> Keyboard -> Layout settings -> Options
[10:12] <pianotips> cub ill try reburning the dvd
[10:12] <cub> yeah sometimes that is the problem
[10:12] <MonkWitDaFunk> pianotips, i would do a wipe of the memory disk before i install
[10:12] <cub> make sure to format the DVD first
[10:12] <cub> Then reburn it..
[10:12] <nicekiwi> 1234656
[10:13] <cub> also make sure the checksum of the ISO matches
[10:13] <MonkWitDaFunk> pianotips, is your rom disk bootable?
[10:13] <pianotips> checked the checksum..
[10:13] <pianotips> the dvd? yes
[10:13] <riderplus> srhb yes it works that way...I'm still wondering when they are going to make that layout visible
[10:14] <riderplus> maybe in the next ubuntu edition
[10:14] <srhb> riderplus: Perhaps you can find a tool for putting it on the bar in the gnome extensions
[10:14] <srhb> riderplus: Personally I find that it crashes most of the time when you install extensions.
[10:15] <riderplus> srhb :D so it's a dilemma...then I'll just wait until the fix comes
[10:15] <riderplus> another problem is that I've done some updates and now the computer icon is not visible on my desktop
[10:15] <riderplus> is there a way to create a shortcut for it?
[10:16] <riderplus> I have installed nautilus actions and now I can create launchers for desktop
[10:16] <riderplus> but I don't know where the shortcut for "computer" lies
[10:16] <riderplus> most of the apps are under /usr/bin
[10:16] <MonkWitDaFunk> pianotips, you can try wiping your memory disk if theres any software preventing you from.doing an install
[10:16] <cub> hmm
[10:16] <cub> computer?
[10:16] <riderplus> cub: yes
[10:17] <riderplus> it's been disabled in gconf and dconf and gnome-tweak-tool
[10:17] <cub> its located under places on the gnome menu
[10:17] <riderplus> i'm on gnome 3
[10:17] <riderplus> i've tried gnome classic and saw it there
[10:18] <riderplus> when i dragged and dropped it said it's already on the desktop (and showed a blank icon) and asked me if i wanted to merge them
[10:18] <riderplus> i said yes but it didn't
[10:18] <thufir_> does this message indicate that DAR is finished with its run, or is it an error?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.dar.support/2642
[10:18] <cub> hmm
[10:19] <cub> that i'm not sure about riderplus .... i dont have a computer icon on my desktop
[10:19] <cub> never needed it
[10:19] <cub> i would thought you could drag it there and it would create a shortcut
[10:19] <lupsakka> trying to get IWL 3945ABG to connect. Everything is detected and the AP is seen, but the trying to connect fails with lines of wlan0: direct probe to ... (try 3/3) and wlan0: authentication with ... timed out. Any thoughts?
[10:19] <NorahAura> riderplus: you can get to computer from the Go Menu in Nautilu
[10:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> hi ppl of ubuntu, how can i automatically run memtest86 after booting?
[10:20] <NorahAura> er, Nautilus
[10:20] <cub> what ubuntu version u got riderplus ?
[10:20] <llutz> MonkWitDaFunk: sudo apt-get install memtest86+     then pick memtest at next boot from grub-menu
[10:20] <ripthejacker> i have mounted an ntfs filesystem but whenever i create any file in it, its saved as an execuateble and i cannot change its permission even as super user
[10:20] <llutz> !ntfs | ripthejacker
[10:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> llutz, where can i learn more about programming grub?
[10:22] <llutz> MonkWitDaFunk: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[10:22] <ripthejacker> llutz: actually its auto mounted at starup ive put an fstab entry
[10:22] <llutz> ripthejacker: then you'll have to change the boot options (uid/gid/umask)
[10:23] <MonkWitDaFunk> ok. thanks.
[10:23] <ripthejacker> llutz: what fmask should i use, i need to be able to read write and execute files but i dont want the files to be saved as executables by default
[10:24] <trev_> thanks llutz the problem was the ntfs file system. sorry about the copy paste, my first time here.
[10:25] <tikpad> Have you edited /etc/exports?
[10:25] <llutz> !ntfs-3g | ripthejacker look here, sry cannot help you further, i don't deal with ntfs
[10:25] <ripthejacker> llutz: # mount point for /dev/sda2 Windows C Drive
[10:25] <ripthejacker> UUID=04C65723C6571470 /media/windows		ntfs-3g		defaults	0	0
[10:25] <rawfodog> im trying to copy files to a usb key, it LOOKS like they copied, but when I unmount and bring the key to another computer nothing is there. I tried with multiple keys
[10:25] <ripthejacker> llutz: ok thanks for the help :)
[10:29] <riderplus> cub: it's 12.10
[10:29] <cub> riderplus, maybe this will be of help... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/hhow-to-display-computerhomenetworktrash-and-mounted-volumes-icons-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-desktop.html
[10:29] <MonkWitDaFunk> hey ppl of ubuntu channel, where on the internet will.give me news on the updates for memtest86?
[10:29] <riderplus> NorahAura: yes but how to make it appear on desktop
[10:30] <lupsakka> trying to get IWL 3945ABG to connect. Everything is detected and the AP is seen, but the trying to connect fails with lines of wlan0: direct probe to ... (try 3/3) and wlan0: authentication with ... timed out. Any thoughts?
[10:31] <riderplus> cub I tried that it gives me >>No such key 'computer-icon-visible'
[10:34] <cub> hmm i'm not sure
[10:34] <riderplus> is there a way to report bugs without apport?
[10:34] <riderplus> it seems so complicated
[10:35] <riderplus> online on launchpad
[10:35] <thufir_> how many MB are in a DVD?  a DVD of ~4.7GB  I'm doing DAR slices.
[10:35] <cub> have u tried restarting tho? (thinking u did)
[10:37] <yoga> hi, I tried to install MInt-KDE, I have Windows 8 already on my computer, when asked to choose where to install linux to, I choose manual, but I cannot find the Windowds 8 partition,  and it only see the entire disk as free disk to install.  Any help?
[10:37] <jiwan> hey anyone tell me channel name of linux kernel???????????????
[10:38] <cub> yoga
[10:38] <cub> you should check the windows partition while IN windows
[10:38] <cub> there is a tool under system management you can use that will show all of your partitions
[10:38] <antonio_> Does anyone know how I can import Helvetica into gimp?
[10:38] <cub> note its size and file type
[10:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> yoga, if you boot from your ubuntu rom, you can choose to install ubuntu alongside windows
[10:38] <jiwan> is there any channel name
[10:39] <OerHeks> !mint | yoga
[10:39] <cub> and if it's showing the entire disk.. it might be that you only have one partition.. the windows one..
[10:39] <cub> you would need to resize it in windows..
[10:39] <cub> and backup your data
[10:39] <cub> i can tell you now, if you are not extremely careful, you can screw up your windows install
[10:40] <MonkWitDaFunk> make.sure you have your windows 8 repair disk
[10:40] <cub> and defrag your disk as well
[10:40] <MonkWitDaFunk> and your origional upgrade/install disk
[10:40] <cub> BEFORE you attempt to install
[10:41] <yoga> I already have some free space left for Linux.
[10:41] <cub> did you create a partition with that free space?
[10:41] <yoga> fdisk /dev/sda shows I have those Windows 8 partitions.
[10:41] <cub> you should create a free space partition WITHIN windows
[10:41] <cub> okay
[10:41] <cub> how many partitions do you have?
[10:42] <yoga> cub: I have 3 partitions, one is Windows 8 reserved, second is Windows 8, the third is free.
[10:43] <cub> if i remember..
[10:43] <jiwan> hey i need a name, related to kernel channel?
[10:43] <cub> u need 2 partitions for linux
[10:43] <cub> one for swap
[10:43] <cub> and the other for the install
[10:43] <cub> i'm going by memory of course, but that may be the reason .. and windows wont let u have more than 4 partitions ?
[10:43] <cub> so you cant make the 3rd into 2
[10:43] <yoga> cub: I expect the installer will shows me the free space, and I'll create the swap from there.
[10:45] <yoga> cub: the installer don't show me the partition I already have, and just say all the disk is free!
[10:45] <pepito> hi, I have one group root with two users root and me, but my user haven't all root's privileges, how change that ? Thanks for answering.
[10:45] <cub> hmm... not quite sure on that one, perhaps someone else here knows?
[10:47] <OerHeks> !sudoers | pepito
[10:48] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[10:49] <OerHeks> add your 2nd account to admin group
[10:52] <lupsakka> trying to get IWL 3945ABG to connect. Everything is detected and the AP is seen, but the trying to connect fails with lines of wlan0: direct probe to ... (try 3/3) and wlan0: authentication with ... timed out. Any thoughts?
[11:06] <chris__> i got  aweird issue
[11:07] <chris__> if i ping someone a window appears about some smb.conf errors
[11:11] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Hi all
[11:11] <aum__> hi
[11:11] <ripthejacker> llutz: hey thanks for the tip, the problem is fixed now. i just had to set the fmask as 111
[11:12] <cairne> i installed kde desktop just as a secondary thing for another log in now the login manager has changed to the kde one, how do I get back to the one I had originally?
[11:12] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. installed from dvd and usb?
[11:12] <pianotips> help ? please ?
[11:12] <pianotips> thanks
[11:13] <ikonia> pianotips: are you installing the desktop or the server edition
[11:13] <pianotips> sever sir
[11:13] <ikonia> is the server now shipped on a DVD ? I thought it was a CD
[11:13] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Hello, Does anyone recommend software and streaming support issue (personally, locally and online) audio / video?. I tried Goalbit, but the user must install plugin's, I would find something standard. Thanks, happy holidays and happy 2013! for all
[11:14] <pianotips> ikonia sorry cd
[11:14] <pianotips> i burned it to a cd
[11:14] <pianotips> not a dvd
[11:14] <pianotips> sorry
[11:14] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> I use skype and the skype icon disappeared. It alway on the bar containing current time. I use ubuntu 11.04
[11:14] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> How to get it back
[11:14] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> Skype is still running.
[11:15] <pianotips> ikonia any ideas?
[11:16] <MonkWitDaFunk> pianotips, do you think there may be software on the memory disk that your trying to install ubuntu to is preventing you from successful installation?
[11:16] <iDangerMouse> jimmy_lo_chien_f http://askubuntu.com/questions/151112/how-do-i-get-the-skype-status-icon-back-on-panel-trayhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/151112/how-do-i-get-the-skype-status-icon-back-on-panel-tray
[11:16] <iDangerMouse> Here
[11:17] <pianotips> hmm no sure MonkWitDaFunk it seemed clean.. but ive tried 2 times now.. any suggestions?
[11:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> i would wipe my disk using daricks boot and nuke before installing ubuntu.
[11:20] <pianotips> lol thanks after thinking about your ealier suggestion .. i ended up on that page ;)
[11:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> i once had an IDE disk that always caused problems rebooting and shutting down. the problem.went away after i wiped the IDE disk
[11:20] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> iDangerMouse, thank you very much
[11:21] <iDangerMouse> Sure
[11:21] <iDangerMouse> Would have been fun to get paid for support ha
[11:23] <pianotips> thnx MonkWitDaFunk
[11:23] <gipzo> Hi, guys. Got a problem: I need to upgrade from Ubuntu server Maverick to something more modern, but system is on xen vds now and there're no dists for maverick anymore...
[11:23] <jimmy_lo_chien_f> iDangerMouse, is the bar called "Unity Notification Panel"
[11:24] <iDangerMouse> Or Systray
[11:24] <iqbalbakhtiar> i downloaded a torrent movie but it turns out to be a .tmpfile. how do i play it
[11:25] <iqbalbakhtiar> ????????????????????????????
[11:25] <iqbalbakhtiar> ??????
[11:25] <iqbalbakhtiar> anyone there
[11:25] <iDangerMouse> Adam bash iqbalbakhtiar
[11:25] <mario_> !repeat | iqbalbakhtiar
[11:25] <iqbalbakhtiar> hi
[11:25] <gipzo> Is it possible to downgrade from maverick to lucid?
[11:25] <MonkWitDaFunk> vlc media can play almost all.video formats. i dont.know if a tmp is a video format
[11:26] <iqbalbakhtiar> i don't either
[11:26] <iDangerMouse> .tmpfile. is a bug
[11:26] <iqbalbakhtiar> hence the question
[11:26] <iqbalbakhtiar> frikkin torrents
[11:26] <bpietro> I think it's not yet complete download
[11:26] <zr> it's not yet finished
[11:26] <iDangerMouse> or a bug
[11:26] <iDangerMouse> fake torrent
[11:26] <iqbalbakhtiar> anyone downloaded jack reacher yet
[11:26] <mario_> !vlc | iqbalbakhtiar
[11:27] <iqbalbakhtiar> but frostwire says it's complete
[11:27] <bpietro> when finished, turn out .tmpfile to regolar .avi, .flv o another vidoe format
[11:27] <zr> try to name it to avi
[11:27] <OerHeks> !piracy  | iqbalbakhtiar
[11:27] <zr> this
[11:27] <iqbalbakhtiar> torrents were supposed to be legal
[11:28] <iqbalbakhtiar> bit torrent won the case
[11:28] <zr> burt not when you download movies
[11:28] <iqbalbakhtiar> read it on engadget
[11:28] <zr> but*
[11:28] <OerHeks> iqbalbakhtiar stop it
[11:28] <ikonia> pianotips: sorry I was just on the phone
[11:28] <iqbalbakhtiar> really! u guys are passionate.........
[11:29] <cub> iqbalbakhtiar, its ok
[11:29] <ikonia> pianotips: I'd verify that package is there on the CD - but it sounds like the CD is corrupt,
[11:29] <gipzo> How to upgrade CentOs to Ubuntu? (or downgrade?)
[11:29] <ikonia> gipzo: you can't
[11:29] <gipzo> Then how to downgrade maverick to lucid?
[11:30] <ikonia> gipzo: they are two seperate distros that cannot be cross-graded
[11:30] <ikonia> gipzo: you can't downgrade
[11:30] <gipzo> Then how to upgrade from maverick to something modern?
[11:30] <ikonia> 1upgrade | gipzo
[11:30] <ikonia> !upgrade | gipzo
[11:30] <gipzo> There'is no distros for maverick
[11:30] <iDangerMouse> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRkoEDxA1QU gianlucadv
[11:30] <iDangerMouse> I mean gipzo
[11:31] <iqbalbakhtiar> does that mean i'll have to download another torrent
[11:31] <ikonia> gipzo: you can still upgrade, but because of the difference in versions, it maybe easier to install clean
[11:31] <gipzo> :D
[11:31] <MonkWitDaFunk> pianotips, do.you believe your ubuntu installation rom is corrupt?
[11:31] <iDangerMouse> On serious note gipzo , http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-10.10-maverick-meerkat-to-11.04-natty-narwhal-desktop-and-server
[11:31] <gipzo> I can't clean install, it's xen vds template :/
[11:31] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: please don't post those stupid youtube links again
[11:31] <gipzo> Server
[11:32] <iDangerMouse> Okay ikonia, because you asked nicely :P
[11:32] <iqbalbakhtiar> :'(
[11:32] <ikonia> gipzo: do you control the xen host ?
[11:32] <gipzo> So should I put repo links for natty in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:32] <ikonia> gipzo: no
[11:32] <gipzo> ikonia, nope (
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> need to convert mp3 to wav and ogg, what good tools are there on ubuntu ? both gui and comandline ?
[11:32] <iqbalbakhtiar> can anybody teach linux
[11:32] <ikonia> gipzo: ok, you may find it easier to talk to your host and ask them to update it to a current ubuntu version
[11:32] <iDangerMouse> Audacity silv3r_m00n
[11:33] <gipzo> ikonia, they will be doing this for several weeks...
[11:34] <ikonia> gipzo: that seems reasonable,
[11:34] <ikonia> gipzo: it will be easier than potentially upgrading your versions to current
[11:34] <ikonia> gipzo: more so as there maybe non-shared components on the xen host (I don't know their setup obviously)
[11:35] <ikonia> gipzo: it is worth at least asking them if it's possibler
[11:35] <gipzo> ikonia, i have full control over os as root...
[11:35] <ikonia> possible
[11:35] <silv3r_m00n> iDangerMouse: where is the option to load a file in audacity, I could only record from mic
[11:35] <ikonia> gipzo: that you know of, there can be shared components that you don't know are shared from the OS level
[11:36] <MonkWitDaFunk> i think audacity uses import from their taskbar. you can also save as to choose.a.format to.save
[11:38] <iqbalbakhtiar> linux anyone
[11:38] <ikonia> iqbalbakhtiar: not in this channe
[11:38] <ikonia> channel
[11:38] <iDM|Busy> iqbalbakhtiar please stop trolling
[11:38] <ikonia> iqbalbakhtiar: if you have an ubuntu question please ask
[11:38] <iqbalbakhtiar> ubuntu is linux
[11:39] <ikonia> iqbalbakhtiar: correct, but we don't support generic linux lessons, ubuntu distribtuion only
[11:39] <iqbalbakhtiar> details details
[11:39] <iqbalbakhtiar> technicalities are shit
[11:39] <gipzo> ikonia, thanks, sended them a ticket...
[11:40] <bazhang> iqbalbakhtiar, no cursing here
[11:41] <OerHeks> ikonia, jakub jakub762  jakub816 jakub762  & more clones is back again
[11:41] <rasanen7> I want to be able to send commandline (scripted, cronned) email's through my ISPs mail server. Do I need an MTA such as sendmail or postfix for this? Or can I configure a client to directly use the ISPs servers, settings and authentication?
[11:43] <kubanc> how do i stop xserver and start in terminal in ubuntu 12.10.If i stop xserver I only get blanking cursor in the left top corner
[11:43] <iDM|Busy> Is ubuntu being logged? I mean public logging
[11:44] <OerHeks> iDM|Busy, yes
[11:44] <ikonia> yes
[11:44] <iDM|Busy> sudo service gdm sto
[11:44] <iDM|Busy> p
[11:44] <OerHeks> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:45] <iDM|Busy> Thanks OerHeks
[11:45] <OerHeks> the html version is nice
[11:45] <iDangerMouse> yeah it is
[11:46] <iDangerMouse> Running ubuntu on my phone was a bad idea...
[11:46] <MonkWitDaFunk> oh cool
[11:47] <admin_> hello
[11:47] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to create a Ubuntu bootable USB stick on a Windows machine?
[11:47] <OerHeks> rasanen7,  this answer from askubuntu may be a help > http://askubuntu.com/a/12933
[11:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> yes vlt
[11:47] <ikonia> !install | vlt
[11:47] <vlt> ikonia: Thank you-
[11:47] <zr> why ubuntu takes so long to install programs or update the system and arch linux (or manjaro im using now) is so fast? is pacman best and newest of all package managers?
[11:48] <admin_> yes vlt, use usb installer...
[11:48] <admin_> you
[11:48] <iDangerMouse> Good luck folks
[11:48] <iDangerMouse> Later
[11:48] <admin_> you're welcome
[11:49] <ikonia> zr: they take around the same time
[11:49] <ikonia> zr: the only difference will be if you are installing one locally and one from the internet
[11:49] <hmsck> what do you think about Xubuntu?
[11:49] <ikonia> hmsck: in what respect ?
[11:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> excuse me ubuntu, if ubuntu can detect the hardware, does that mean it can also download the drivers for it?
[11:49] <ikonia> MonkWitDaFunk: it depends
[11:50] <ikonia> MonkWitDaFunk: most of the drivers are included in the kernel, as such it auto loads them
[11:50] <hmsck> generally
[11:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> !drivers
[11:50] <ikonia> hmsck: what does it matter ? it's important if you like or not
[11:50] <gipzo> ikonia, got answer from hoster: they say that i should set lucid repos and upgrade myself...
[11:51] <gipzo> ikonia, is apt-get dist-upgrade will be enough?
[11:51] <ikonia> gipzo: that is not a wise approach
[11:51] <ikonia> gipzo: read this link
[11:51] <ikonia> !upgrade | gipzo
[11:52] <hmsck> ikonia I like
[11:52] <ikonia> hmsck: great, so no need to ask if anyone likes it
[11:52] <hmsck> ok
[11:53] <gipzo> ikonia, so do-release-upgrade?
[11:53] <vlt> ikonia, admin_: Could any one help me finding the On-Windows-to-USB installation process faster?
[11:53] <ikonia> gipzo: READ the information
[11:53] <ikonia> vlt: the last URL
[11:53] <vlt> ikonia: Ok, thanks
[11:54] <ikonia> !install | vlt
[11:54] <hirogen> can you not mount ubuntu desktop latest into vmware player here ?
[11:54] <hirogen> sorry my bad
[11:54] <hirogen> i trid to mount exsiting
[11:54] <hirogen> not new
[11:54] <gipzo> ikonia, i read it: 1. install update-manager-core, 2. set Prompt=normal, 3. do-release-upgrade...
[11:55] <ikonia> gipzo: right, so that's what you need to do
[11:55] <ikonia> but I feel you've not read it properly
[11:55] <gipzo> i didn't read about ubuntu desktops...
[11:56] <gipzo> just Upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 -> Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[11:56] <hmsck> i need help with a driver RTL8187 in Ubuntu 12.04..any idea?
[11:58] <gipzo> ... a lot of errors..
[11:58] <rasanen7> OerHeks: I was actually reading that earlier. But it seems to have the right points, I'll continue reading. Thanks!
[11:58] <kubanc> how come tty (example ctrl+alt+F2) is not working in ubuntu 12.10?
[11:58] <hmsck> it's the driver for my wifi..
[12:02] <admin_> bye guys..
[12:02] <admin_> exit
[12:02] <admin_> exit
[12:02] <OerHeks> hmsck, maybe this askubuntu page can help, see answer #21 & answer 27 >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/951613
 it's buggy a check many websites about it..even i tried a ndiswrapper.
[12:03] <kubanc> how come tty console is not working in Ubuntu 12.10?
[12:04] <iceroot> !work | kubanc
[12:04] <OerHeks> hmsck, is it an apple device ?
[12:05] <kubanc> iceroot, if I press ctrl+alt+f1 to f6 nothing happens. If I do sudo service lightdm stop I only have blinking cursos
 it's a wifi ALFA AWUSO36H usb
 it works with backtrack
[12:06] <OerHeks> hmsck, oke, i think answer #27 would work
[12:07] <OerHeks> hmsck, after edit, logout & login again
 ok i will try it, but not now because i use different laptop. thanks a lot!
[12:11] <rasanen7> does anyone run nullmailer instead of sendmail/postfix/etc? I'm hesitant to installing an MTA because I do not want to be relaying spam or anything else inside our network
[12:14] <kieron-desktop> hallo anyone on here
[12:16] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Bay, bay
[12:16] <kieron-desktop> oh good someones one here
[12:16] <gipzo> Hi, keiron
[12:16] <gipzo> How do you do?
[12:16] <kieron-desktop> great
[12:16] <gipzo> How's weather?
[12:17] <kieron-desktop> i need an distro that is 2gb big
[12:17] <kieron-desktop> hdd space
[12:17] <kieron-desktop> and the weather is a bit dull here
[12:17] <gipzo> Kieron, you need 2gb big, or 2gb small?
[12:18] <kieron-desktop> small yea
[12:18] <kieron-desktop> i know mint needs 5
[12:18] <kieron-desktop> but i need one that is 2gb
[12:18] <kieron-desktop> and a grub menu
[12:19] <gipzo> You may check this - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal
[12:20] <gipzo> "After this minimal install (using Ubuntu 12.04 as an example for these screenshots), the total installation size is a little over 1 GB."
[12:21] <kieron-desktop> does it come with grub 2
[12:21] <kieron-desktop> or somthing that will pick up my other distros
[12:21] <gipzo> I can't answer that question :)
[12:22] <kieron-desktop> huh ok then
[12:22] <kieron-desktop> ill give that a try
[12:22] <gipzo> It should pick up
[12:22] <gipzo> It's 12.04
[12:30] <simulakra> guys, i'm tryin to remove the noveau driver so i can install nvidia's version instead but when i did "sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" & then ran the installer it said noveau is still there.. wat do?
 switch to windows8
[12:32] <simulakra> nishaad genius! i'll go do that nao
[12:33] <vimerrrrrrr> hi to all. any one know why my ubuntu has no boot logo but only purple screen?
[12:33] <ogny> vimerrrrrrr: hi
[12:33] <ogny> please try these
[12:34] <ogny> on the grub menu, pres `e`
[12:34] <ogny> go to the kernel line
[12:34] <ogny> add this: `noresume`
[12:34] <ogny> write it to file, press to: ctrl-x
[12:34] <ogny> then please write here, if it's fixed or not
[12:35] <kubanc> hello! how do i revert graphic drivers for ubuntu 12.10?
[12:35] <vimerrrrrrr> thx ill try
[12:36] <ogny> np
[12:40] <simulakra> anyone??
[12:41] <kubanc> how do i revert graphic drivers in ubuntu 12.10
[12:42] <ikonia> kubanc: revert ?
[12:42] <simulakra> kubanc u mean lowering a version..?
[12:44] <ogny> hangi bes bireysel emeklilik firması
[12:44] <ogny> sorry
[12:44] <simulakra> garanti emeklilik :P
[12:49] <lupsakka> why cant I get sound from http://chrome.angrybirds.com/ while using chromium. Sound on youtube does work. And with firefox it works on angrybirds too. Thoughts?
[12:51] <snql> no troughts
[12:56] <nitin> Hello everyone, could someone help me with this issue: I am trying to mount a filesystem as /home. I have added the entry in /etc/fstab but now when I create a new user, the user directory created in /home has root as user and group by default. Can someone tell me where I am going wrong here
[12:59] <freshstart> does nautilus or any other file manager has the ability to show on folders a thumbnail(that indicates the content of them?)
[13:01] <w0rm-_x> Can I make my program to be installed from apt-get ?
[13:01] <w0rm-_x> like any one can install it using sudo apt-get install myprogram
[13:01] <freshstart> w0rm-_x: what program?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> w0rm-_x  create a .deb from it
[13:02] <w0rm-_x> An app I coded
[13:02] <w0rm-_x> yeah after creating .deb should I place it online in order for any user to download it using apt-get?
[13:03] <fairuz> w0rm-_x: package it and upload to launchpad
[13:03] <fairuz> User will need to add your repo and use apt-get to install a specific software from the repo
[13:03] <w0rm-_x> fairuz, thanks, though I had to pay money to a party to allow this
[13:04] <freshstart> does nautilus or any other file manager has the ability to show on folders a thumbnail(that indicates the content of them?)
[13:04] <fairuz> it's free
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> w0rm-_x  or create a ppa and hope someone picks it up
[13:04] <w0rm-_x> fairuz repo?
[13:04] <fairuz> w0rm-_x: I mean ppa on launchpad
[13:04] <w0rm-_x> oh ok
[13:05] <w0rm-_x> creating a deb package from jar is iffy....
[13:09] <ClockworkSwordfi> Hello? I was told this was the place for tech support chat.
[13:09] <iDM> ClockworkSwordfi: Ask
[13:09] <iDM> And you shall seek
[13:10] <iDM> For Ubuntu yes..
[13:10] <ClockworkSwordfi> Well, yes.
[13:13] <Panc> Ciao
[13:14] <ClockworkSwordfi> Here's the problem: I have Fedora dual-booted with Windows 7, but I would rather have Xubuntu dual-booted with Windows 7.
[13:15] <iDM> So remove Fedora ?
[13:15] <iDM> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/installation
[13:15] <ClockworkSwordfi> Yes, but it does not seem to be that easy.
[13:16] <iDM> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_uninstall_Fedora
[13:16] <iDM> Here
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> ClockworkSwordfi  use the ubuntu live cd, delete the fedora partition, install ubuntu
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> i just install "xfce4-cpufreq-plugin" but how to start it?
[13:16] <ovrflw0x> installed*
[13:17] <ClockworkSwordfi> That is exactly my problem; the Live installer CAN'T delete the Fedora partition.
[13:17] <iDM> ClockworkSwordfi try #fedora
[13:17] <Panc> !list
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> ClockworkSwordfi  what happens when you try with gparted?
[13:17] <ClockworkSwordfi> It can write over it, but Fedora has 3 partitions (swap, boot, and home) and I can only write over one.
[13:18] <Panc> !list
[13:18] <CookieM> do that with parted magic
 Exactly the same thing, minus the ability to overwrite.
[13:18] <k1l> ClockworkSwordfi: unmount the swap
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> ClockworkSwordfi  if you can't delete it with ubuntu, for whatever reason, then better ask in the fedora channel
[13:19] <ClockworkSwordfi> Hang on, checking up on Fedora uninstall link <iDM> posted.
[13:20] <k1l> gparted gets blocked sometimes, when a /swap is mounted. so unmount that and you should be able to remove the partitions you want
[13:21] <ClockworkSwordfi> <Monkey Dust>; Will do, just thought I'd ask here first since it is the Ubuntu installer I am working with.
[13:21] <ClockworkSwordfi> Fedora guide says do it through Windows; trying that now.
[13:24] <ClockworkSwordfi> Alright, Fedora guide tells how to remove Linux entirely. Since I don't need to restore the MBR to not have GRUB anymore, can I just use Windows's Disk Management utility to delete the Fedora partitions and then install from CD?
[13:24] <iDM> There you go ClockworkSwordfi
[13:24] <iDM> Yes
[13:25] <ClockworkSwordfi> That won't screw up the MBR somehow?
[13:25] <iDM> Confirm it in Fedora I think so.
[13:25] <ClockworkSwordfi> A'ight.
[13:42] <ogny> abi sen
[13:42] <ogny> sorry
[13:42] <shaokc> HELLO
[13:43] <cfhowlett> shaokc: greetings
[13:43] <SysE8> i have this problem in my vps , when i try to open terminal from vnc ( There was an error creating the child process for this terminal |  getpt failed: No such file or directory ) http://i.imgur.com/FUgKu.png
[13:45] <anh> hi. i am looking for xubuntu 11.04, but cannot find it. is there a reason why the link to cdimage.ubuntu.com is dead?
[13:47] <b14d3> !xubuntu | anh
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> anh  it's because 11.04 is eol
[13:47] <cfhowlett> anh: time to upgrade.  suggest you go with LTS release, i.e. 12.04
[13:48] <Assasin> Gretinz
[13:49] <anh> my computer is old. it has an old nvidia card which isn't supported in 12.04
[13:49] <diverdude> How do i make a "show desktop" shortcut in ubuntu 12.10?
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> diverdude  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/show-desktop-icon-for-ubuntu-unity.html
[13:50] <auronandace> anh: not even by nouveau?
[13:50] <anh> nope
[13:51] <anh> b14d3: i could just install a server version then install xubuntu-desktop then?
[13:51] <auronandace> anh: why would you do that?
[13:52] <anh> auronandace: because xubuntu 11.04 does not seems to exist any more
[13:52] <jiwan> problem while using fdsik
[13:52] <b14d3> anh: As opposed to just updating?
[13:52] <auronandace> anh: xubuntu still exists but 11.04 is end of life
[13:52] <jiwan> All primary partitions are in use
[13:52] <jiwan> Adding logical partition 6
[13:52] <jiwan> No free sectors available
[13:53] <anh> oh. so 11.04 wasn't LTS?
[13:53] <auronandace> anh: no
[13:53] <cfhowlett> anh: no it is not.  LTS were 10.04 and 12.04
[13:53] <anh> ah. okay
[13:53] <diverdude> MonkeyDust, that solution stinks
[13:54] <Gusteru> hi! I can install ubuntu like a simple software usign windows 7 ?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> Gusteru: what?
[13:54] <auronandace> !wubi | Gusteru
[13:55] <anh> for how long is 10.04 supported then?
[13:55] <radopi> april 13
[13:55] <cfhowlett> anh: 36 months on the desktop
[13:55] <auronandace> anh: on desktop till april
[13:55] <anh> same as 11.10 then
[13:55] <Gusteru> auronandace
[13:55] <Gusteru> Page not found
[13:56] <Gusteru> Sorry, we couldn't find the page you were looking for
[13:56] <cfhowlett> anh: no 11.10 had 18 months support for the desktop version.
[13:56] <auronandace> Gusteru: why do you want to use wubi?
[13:57] <anh> cfhowlett: which means to what date?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> Gusteru: wubi is a testing platform, not a long-term install solution.  suggest you consider virtualbox or dual boot options
[13:57] <auronandace> cfhowlett: 18 months from 11.10 = 13.04
[13:57] <Gusteru> auronandace I am not familiar with linux and I would not want to spoil anything and lose all computer data
[13:58] <auronandace> Gusteru: better use a vm then
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> anh  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Gusteru: then virtualbox is the better method
[13:58] <Gusteru> don't like tu user virtualbox
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Gusteru: or you could create a boot USB and just use that
[13:58] <amer> What is the samba service called on ubuntu?
[13:58] <amer> sudo service <foo> stop
[13:58] <compdoc> smbd
[13:58] <amer> ty
[14:00] <shaokc> exit
[14:00] <Gusteru> cfhowlett Can I install ubuntu hdd external box and user from hdd ?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Gusteru: yes, but I've never done it.
[14:01] <Gusteru> ok, I understand ! Thank You !
[14:02] <Gusteru> to install on hdd external box need to download ubuntu for desktop & burn on cd ?
[14:02] <Mina> hii
[14:02] <WeThePeople> kill is not permitted how do i force it?
[14:03] <Mina> please i'm asking to download the full version of ubuntu and i need to install it with windows 7 any help plz ??
[14:03] <iDM|Busy> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[14:03] <iDM|Busy> Download it
[14:03] <Gusteru> !wubi | Mina
[14:03] <voxcroix> Mina: ????
[14:03] <iDM|Busy> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[14:03] <Mina> yes
[14:03] <iDM|Busy> Step 2
[14:03] <iDM|Busy> Mina just go on the website I gave you....
[14:04] <voxcroix> Mina: download go ubuntu website.
[14:04] <voxcroix> Mina: install win7 first and second ubuntu
[14:04] <Mina> thanks everybody but there is 2 version first one it's 700 mb and other one more than 1 GB
[14:05] <padhu> Mina: Ubuntu is open source, CD/DVD have an complete ( Minimal) Desktop requirements, After installation, you can install required application packages from repositories
[14:05] <euax> Hello everybody from Spain.
[14:05] <compdoc> big drug bust in spain
[14:05] <Mina> aha
[14:06] <Mina> Padhu thank you man :)
[14:06] <diverdude> can i somehow limit the output of ls to 10 first files only?
[14:06] <iDM|Busy> I wish I was in Egypt
[14:06] <iDM|Busy> diverdude: What ?
[14:06] <euax> use tail diverdude
[14:07] <Mina> wow how do u know that i'm from egypt :D
[14:07] <padhu> Mina: contact nearer linux / Ubuntu user groups for customized CD/DVDs and apt-on-CDs
[14:07] <iDM|Busy> You are ?
[14:07] <iDM|Busy> I did not know that.
[14:08] <Mina> anyway i'm from egypt and it's very bad nowdays :S
[14:08] <diverdude> euax, thx
[14:08] <radopi> hi
[14:08] <iDM|Busy> http://www.ubuntu-eg.org/  Ubuntu Egypt.
[14:09] <diverdude> how do i start ubuntu image viewer  from command line?
[14:09] <padhu> diverdude: ! #ls | tail -n 10
[14:09] <bpietro> diverdude: ls -1| head -n10 (first 10 lines)   or ls -1 | tail -n10 (last 10 lines)
[14:09] <diverdude> yeah thx got that one already
[14:10] <Gusteru> cfhowlett how can I create a usb bootable with ubuntu ? the last version of ubuntu have 753 MB and CD-R only 702
[14:11] <b14d3> Gusteru: Use a USB drive or use a dvd
[14:11] <bpietro> Gusteru: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:12] <Gusteru> b14d3 and how can I create usb bootable with ubuntu ?
[14:12] <b14d3> Gusteru: See bpietro's link
[14:13] <Gusteru> b14d3 ok
[14:13] <padhu> Gusteru: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/creating-an-ubuntu-live-usb-from-cd/
[14:13] <euax> Gusteru: usb-creator
[14:15] <euax> Gusteru: or UNetbootin is similar.
[14:17] <freshstart> how can i change the distance between files in nautilus?
[14:17] <lucien> Morning #ubuntu
[14:18] <zoite> freshstart, what?
[14:18] <euax> lucien: morning from Spain.
[14:19] <freshstart> zoite: the distance a picture has in nautilus compared to another picture for example
[14:19] <freshstart> zoite: the space between them
[14:19] <TheLordOfTime> freshstart, you mean the space between icons/thumbnails.]
[14:19] <anaim> hi, im having problems with my audio devices, no devices are showing up, but in alsa mixer their all there, im using ubuntu 12.04 / 64 all my sound works fine in a guest session, ive been googling and none of the solutions seem to be working for me
[14:19] <freshstart> TheLordOfTime: yeah
[14:19] <lucien> arrange items > manually
[14:20] <lucien> freshstart ^
[14:20] <lucien> then they're not aligned anymore and you can sort them in whatever position you want
[14:20] <freshstart> lucien: i want all the files have the same distance
[14:21] <euax> freshstart:you men this? ls -G -T1
[14:21] <TheLordOfTime> freshstart, i'm not certain you can change how it auto-spaces stuff
[14:21] <euax> freshstart:mean, sorry my english
[14:22] <freshstart> euax: what this command does? ls -G -T1
[14:22] <euax> do separator into bash
[14:23] <padhu> freshstart: try it by own
[14:23] <voxcroix> zz
[14:23] <voxcroix> zz
[14:23] <voxcroix> zz
[14:23] <lucien> I wonder what tux would look like if he was a fish. linuxthefish22
[14:23] <voxcroix> zzz
[14:24] <lucien> !spam > voxcroix
[14:25] <devilangel81> Guten Tag
[14:25] <lucien> Good day, devilangel81
[14:27] <Guest21672> !list
[14:28] <YunxBOT1830> swang1
[14:29] <YunxBOT1830> Î¢Ð¦×Å¶Ô swang1 Ëµ: swang1
[14:29] <lurker> yvonne
[14:29] <devilangel81> Ich habe mal eine frage ich möchte von meinem Laptop auf mein Desktop per ssh zugreifen hatte ebend den openssh-server installiert dannach habe ich mit der IP des Desktop am Laptop ssh und die IP eingegeben dann kam Permission denied, please try again
[14:29] <lucien> devilangel81: #ubuntu-de
[14:29] <lucien> YunxBOT1830: #ubuntu-vn
[14:30] <angs> how to kill a process that I know the pid?
[14:30] <llutz> angs: kill pid
[14:30] <euax> lucien: there's too ubuntu-es? :P
[14:30] <angs> thank you llutz
[14:31] <lurker> Hi guys, my MythBuntu 10.04 box sometimes boots correctly and then again, it displays
[14:32] <lurker> "error: hd0,1 out of disk, error: couldn't read file, error: you need to load the kernes first. Failed to boot both default and fallback entries. Press any key to continue..."
[14:32] <lucien> euax: /list
[14:33] <lurker> When I press any key, it again boots as normal.
[14:33] <euax> yes i do it, /list >50 *ubuntu-es*
[14:33] <lurker> For unattended video recorder functionality, that is not desirable. How can I get grub to work properly again?
[14:33] <under> hi
[14:34] <under> i need a gui to format a sdcard?
[14:34] <woozly> guys, how to set System Language to English? (My UI language changed to Japan or something... and I can use UI, because I can't understand nothing)
[14:34] <under> i need a gui to format a sdcard. how was his name?
[14:34] <lucien> !recovergrub > lurker
[14:34] <Tojamm> I need some help. During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as
[14:34] <Tojamm> the installer hangs. I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging. i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work. Anyone has any ideas??
[14:35] <euax> good bye and happy new year.
[14:35] <lucien> under: you could try "Disks" from dash or you could get gparted from software center
[14:35] <under> ty
[14:37] <lucien> Tojamm: where does it hang?
[14:37] <lucien> Tojamm: at what step of the instalation?
[14:38] <Tojamm> lucien: its just before choosing the instalation method right after the conect to network dialog
[14:39] <lurker> ubottu: Hi, thanks for replying. And no, no Windows has been installed.
[14:40] <lurker> lucien: Hi, thanks for replying. And no, no Windows has been installed.
[14:42] <Tojamm> lucien: thanks im going to try it right now
[14:44] <lurker> lucien: Ok, I will investigate the link.
[14:47] <SunMoonStar> I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470068/ Is it normal?
[14:47] <lucien> try adding sudo before it
[14:47] <ocontant> or run it as root user
[14:47] <b14d3> ^
[14:47] <ThinkT510> SunMoonStar: is a package manager already open?
[14:47] <lucien> and yes it's normal since you don't have super user privilleges
[14:48] <SunMoonStar> ThinkT510: no, it's not. I know sudo might fix it but shouldn't I not need to do that for this program. it's just a game
[14:48] <b14d3> You need to for that command at all times
[14:48] <ocontant> at the moment you install something you need superuser privileges
[14:48] <ThinkT510> SunMoonStar: you need sudo when installing anything
[14:48] <SunMoonStar> oh okay
[14:48] <ocontant> linux is super secure :P
[14:48] <Muphrid> SunMoonStar: you need sudo to write anything to / except your home folder, tmp and var
[14:51] <SunMoonStar> how can I use locate but exclude a directory
[14:51] <ocontant> grep -v
[14:51] <ocontant> locate |grep -v <something>
[14:51] <SunMoonStar> thanks
[14:54] <impiza> i needs a little help
[14:54] <impiza> is there any way to install teamviewer in ubuntu 12.10
[14:54] <impiza> ?
[14:54] <Tojamm> lucien: thanks for the link for the secure remix iso but i face the same issue with this also
[14:55] <ocontant> impiza if there is a linux package for it yes
[14:55] <impiza> ocontant: nop there is a problem
[14:55] <impiza> ia32-libs missing
[14:55] <impiza> and i cant install that
[14:56] <impiza> !ping
[14:56] <SunMoonStar> impiza: i just installed it the other day. are you getting the installer from their website?
[14:57] <impiza> SunMoonStar: x64bit ?
[14:57] <SunMoonStar> impiza: no 32-bit. is your version of ubuntu 64-bit?
[14:57] <lemonsparrow> how to download a file over ftp using curl over proxy ?
[14:57] <impiza> lol
[14:58] <impiza> SunMoonStar: x64 has a problem with ia32-libs , so i cant install teamviewer , google-earth etc
[14:58] <SunMoonStar> Why don't you get the ubuntu 32-bit instead?
[14:58] <SunMoonStar> Most applications are not optimized for 64-bit anyway
[14:59] <Artemis3> you are wrong SunMoonStar, also enable multiarch and use gdebi.
[14:59] <SunMoonStar> It is not like Windows on which you need 64-bit to utilize more than 3gb ram
[14:59] <impiza> SunMoonStar: its different architecture how can i install 32 bin in x64
[15:00] <lemonsparrow> how to download a file over ftp using curl over proxy ?
[15:01] <impiza> Artemis3:i try to install ia32-libs but it says some problem is there any fix for this thanks
[15:01] <impiza> i have also try with ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:02] <mintyfresh> hi trying to open a game on separate x server but cant get any sound
[15:02] <Artemis3> impiza, since ubuneu 11.10, multiarch should be enabled by default. Unless its an older upgrade. ia32 is no longer used since then.
[15:03] <impiza> my system based on 12.10
[15:03] <impiza> i dont have this on 12.04
[15:03] <impiza> i dont have this problem* on 12.04
[15:03] <Artemis3> impiza, you should simply gdebi package.deb and should work
[15:04] <impiza> nop its wont
[15:04] <impiza> every thing leads to same problem
[15:04] <Artemis3> might be a 12.10 issue
[15:04] <impiza> i also think soo
[15:04] <Artemis3> i stick to 12.04
[15:04] <impiza> lol
[15:04] <impiza> my bad luck
[15:04] <jiwan> what is UUID
[15:05] <Artemis3> steam is the same, and it works like a charm
[15:05] <impiza> any g33ks here :D
[15:05] <gribouille> hi
[15:05] <Tojamm> I need some help. During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as
[15:05] <Tojamm> the installer hangs. I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging. i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work. Anyone has any ideas??
[15:06] <gribouille> there is a problem with libreoffice : in the manual, all the images are missing
[15:06] <nibbler_> Tojamm, when the installer hangs, do you get any output on a text console (ctr-alt-f1-4)
[15:06] <Tojamm> nibbler: no nothing
[15:06] <OKA> Hello
[15:07] <nibbler_> Tojamm, what is the last message there?
[15:07] <Axio> Hi, yesterday I disabled audio in my bios, I booted, reenabled audio in the bios, rebooted and audio wasn't working anymore. Since then I have been trying to fix audio without any success. I desperately need help
[15:07] <nibbler_> Tojamm, try alternative installer, its a different download
[15:07] <OKA> I Install DNS Server With BIND9
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:07] <OKA> IP Public
[15:07] <Tojamm> nibbler: There is no message at all. right after the wireless dialog it just stands there
[15:08] <jiwan> how to switch between drives in linux
[15:08] <jiwan> i can't do that
[15:08] <jiwan> please help me..
[15:08] <cleamoon> Axio, reboot, check bios again. and check volume.
[15:09] <Axio> cleamoon: already done ten times
[15:09] <impiza> alsamixer ?
[15:09] <Tojamm> nibbler: i even tryed teh secure-remix distro and still hangs
[15:09] <nibbler_> jiwan, you should be able to open other disks via the file explorer..... but there is no such thing as c:, d: etc
[15:09] <impiza> or check sound output
[15:09] <nibbler_> Tojamm, what is the output in the console?
[15:09] <Axio> All is fine, alsamixer, pulseaudio, sound applet
[15:09] <jiwan> but i want to switch using terminal
[15:09] <Axio> But I get no sound
[15:09] <jiwan> i am a fan of the terminal
[15:10] <cleamoon> Axio, sound card driver?
[15:10] <impiza> Axio: check sound output device
[15:10] <impiza> in sound settings
[15:10] <jiwan> i know there isn't a c:,d: like windows but how to switch sda1,sda2 file system
[15:10] <Axio> cleamoon: how do I check it?
[15:10] <Axio> impiza: I checked it dozen of times already, I have two audio devices, I have tried to deactivate the other one etc.
[15:10] <impiza> check speaker is switch on , plugged fine , and connected :D
[15:10] <BluesKaj> jiwan, are they partitions or separate drives?
[15:10] <Axio> impiza: done
[15:11] <impiza> Axio: works ?
[15:11] <jiwan> it is a partition
[15:11] <nibbler_> jiwan, use "mount" to see your current mountpoints, use "sudo mount" to mount other partitions within the current system
[15:11] <Axio> impiza: no :(((((
[15:11] <impiza> lol sorry
[15:11] <BluesKaj> jiwan, and expalin what you mean by switch
[15:11] <impiza> does sound is mute ?
[15:11] <Axio> impiza: no
[15:12] <jiwan> yeah i have done
[15:12] <Axio> impiza: Everything is normal, except that I get no sound
[15:12] <jiwan> it shows a lot of message
[15:12] <cleamoon> Axio, maybe lspci
[15:12] <nibbler_> jiwan, http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lpic1-v3-104-1/index.html
[15:12] <jiwan> i mean i wanna access files that i have stored in sda4
[15:12] <jiwan> by using terminal
[15:12] <Axio> cleamoon: I get two audio devices, HDMI and another one
[15:12] <impiza> Axio: type /exec -o inxi -A
[15:13] <impiza> in here
[15:13] <Tojamm> nibbler: just a min im starting the live usb
[15:13] <cleamoon> jiwan, mount it and just use it
[15:14] <nibbler_> jiwan, use "mount | grep sda4" to see if it is already mounted, if yes, navigate to it. if not: "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt; cd /mnt"
[15:15] <Axio`> cleamoon: same Axio as before, can you give me the command again
[15:15] <impiza> Axio: type /exec -o inxi -A
[15:15] <jiwan> on /media/jiwan/0ef9a66d-3ec2-4205-9ac8-ff5826473fcd type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[15:15] <jiwan> message is like that after /dev/sda4
[15:15] <BluesKaj> jiwan, nibbler_ , wouldn't the partitions be listed in the file manager "places" by default ?
[15:15] <Axio`> impiza: it does nothing
[15:15] <nibbler_> BluesKaj, jiwan: it would, but he asked for cli
[15:16] <cleamoon> Axio`, lspci
[15:16] <Tojamm> nibbler: where can i find the alternative installer?
[15:16] <impiza> lol so inxi not installed
[15:16] <jiwan> how to do that
[15:16] <Axio`> cleamoon: impiza: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470136/
[15:16] <lucien> anyone with 12.10 installed the updates?
[15:17] <nibbler_> jiwan, i gave you detailed instructions
[15:17] <BluesKaj> how to do what , jiwan?
[15:17] <impiza> Axio`: open your sound settings
[15:17] <jiwan> please welcome
[15:17] <Axio`> impiza: then?
[15:17] <impiza> which is your current output device
[15:17] <Axio`> impiza: HDMI is deactivated, the other one is on
[15:17] <cleamoon> Axio`, there are two audio devices, both are some amd, maybe you need to reinstall the amd driver...
[15:18] <jiwan> i am not understand  wouldn't the partitions be listed in   │
[15:18] <jiwan> │the file manager "places" by default ?
[15:18] <jiwan> what is  mean that?
[15:18] <Axio`> cleamoon: I think it is independent from an amd driver, the only amd driver I installed is for the graphic card
[15:18] <impiza> Axio`: switch to other and check
[15:19] <Axio`> impiza: I have nothing plugged to hdmi
[15:19] <nibbler_> Tojamm, http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/ follow there
[15:19] <impiza> hmm
[15:19] <cleamoon> Axio`, i know. it doesn't hurt to try. :D
[15:19] <impiza> lool
[15:19] <impiza> in my case i have both hdmi and build in audio analog
[15:19] <nibbler_> jiwan, that would be the tool you use in the GUI to browse your files.....  it should list all your partitions somehow, by their label or whatever
[15:20] <impiza> hdmi donnt works here and build in works
[15:20] <jiwan> but i don't wann file manager
[15:20] <jiwan> i know i can do that using gui
[15:20] <jiwan> but what about the cui?
[15:20] <jiwan> usign terminal
[15:20] <Axio`> impiza: That's what I had before too
[15:20] <cleamoon> jiwan, by default the driver is not mounted automatically...
[15:20] <Axio`> impiza: Now the build in thing doesn't work anymore
[15:20] <nibbler_>  jiwan, use "mount | grep sda4" to see if it is already mounted, if yes, navigate to it. if not: "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt; cd /mnt"
[15:20] <nibbler_> jiwan, i won't repeat it again
[15:21] <gribouille> there is a problem with libreoffice : in the manual, all the images are missing
[15:21] <impiza> Axio`: did you check with other os ?
[15:21] <Tojamm> nibbler: i follow your link but 12.10 there are only ISO for PowerPC, ARM and Texas Instruments
[15:21] <cleamoon> gribouille, reinstall manual?
[15:21] <Axio`> impiza: I don't have other os
[15:21] <Axio`> impiza: I start the download of an image to live-test
[15:22] <jiwan> i typed so
[15:22] <impiza> then boot live os and try play something
[15:22] <gribouille> cleamoon, note sure that helps
[15:22] <jiwan> here is a message /dev/sda4 is already mounted on /mnt
[15:23] <jiwan> now what
[15:23] <cleamoon> gribouille, me neither...
[15:23] <ThinkT510> jiwan: mount shows you what is mounted and where
[15:23] <cleamoon> jiwan, use cd to the already mounted place
[15:23] <b14d3> jiwan: That means that that drive/partition is already mounted. To use the space that that drive has, in terminal type cd <dir> in this case, cd mnt
[15:23] <b14d3> cd /mnt  <correction>\
[15:24] <jiwan> typed
[15:24] <jiwan> then
[15:24] <Axio`> cleamoon: impiza http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470154/ cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | grep Codec | pastebinit
[15:24] <jiwan> what <correction>
[15:24] <b14d3> I was correcting the command I typed, I forgot the / before the mnt
[15:24] <ThinkT510> jiwan: what are you trying to do?
[15:25] <impiza> Axio`: your interface is realtek
[15:25] <Axio`> impiza: yes
[15:25] <jiwan> i think you help me my friend
[15:25] <Axio`> I am going to download the drivers from realtek
[15:25] <mdh__> Is there a way that I can make a Samba server on an Ubuntu machine not announce that it is a share?
[15:26] <impiza> :) best of luck
[15:26] <mdh__> Like so people could only connect to it if they knew its IP?
[15:26] <lucien> ubuntu is so slow after applying the updates ;-;
[15:27] <compdoc> mdh__, sure
[15:27] <compdoc> Browseable = no
[15:27] <mdh__> compdoc: I'll try that.
[15:29] <jiwan> b14d3: is it same procedure for other drive like usb
[15:29] <b14d3> jiwan: Generally. The mount points may be different.
[15:29] <b14d3> jiwan: But the overall steps can be applied to adding any drive
[15:30] <jiwan> point what we type /mnt
[15:30] <jiwan> ??
[15:30] <b14d3> Not sure what that's asking
[15:31] <jiwan> i mean we create a mount point /mnt right now,
[15:31] <jiwan> and next time we may choose different
[15:31] <Axio`> shit I only remember now that I have downgraded a weird version of pulseaudio on my computer yesterday
[15:31] <jiwan> isn't it
[15:31] <Axio`> That's maybe the problem
[15:31] <h00k> Axio`: please mind the language.
[15:31] <impiza> lol
[15:31] <b14d3> jiwan: Ah, yes. You can choose a different mount point for every drive.
[15:31] <jiwan> now i choose same mnt for sd3 too
[15:31] <jiwan> and it is working
[15:31] <jiwan> thank u friend
[15:32] <impiza> oh h00k a ubuntu op ?
[15:32] <jiwan> i was searching it for a long time finally i found it, hurreeeeyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!11
[15:32] <jiwan> one problme is here too.
[15:32] <jiwan> about mount too
[15:32] <cleamoon> Axio`, why downgraded?
[15:33] <Axio`> cleamoon: because it wasn't related to any ppa or to the defautl packages, a residue from some ppa I guess
[15:33] <cleamoon> oh
[15:33] <Axio`> crossing my fingers now
[15:34] <jiwan> i was trying to recover my files from my memory card, but due to some problme i have to interrupt it, when i re-try to do that(recover), i have a problem
[15:34] <systemclient> For my personal desktop system, does it make sense to stay on 12.04? I mean I'd like to have the newer versions of everything. Is there anything that should I consider before leaving LTS?
[15:34] <jiwan> that mount unseccesful and, now i can't not use my memory in my computer
[15:35] <mdh__> Is there a way to have the Samba share on Ubuntu not show up in the Windows network pane?
[15:36] <arshavin> amazing! I have sony vaio vpceh25en with elementary os and win 8,previously has ubuntu 12.10, but even with latest kernel my bluetooth adapter rarely worked,all of sudden after recent elementary upgrade my adapter is being detected quite easily,in kernel 3.2-generic-pae have they patced it or something?
[15:37] <Tojamm> Anyone knows if there is a 12.10 alternate installer avaliable? i can only find 12.04.1
[15:38] <Tojamm> arshavin: did you face any issues instaling 12.10 in your Vaio? i have a SVS1511 and i cant install ubuntu on it
[15:39] <arshavin> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:39] <arshavin> Tojamm: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[15:40] <arshavin> Tojamm: no issues ever,tried almost every popular distro from usb key
[15:41] <DJones> Tojamm: The alternative installer was dropped from 12.10, tit doesn't exist anymore
[15:41] <Tojamm> arshavin: thanks for the link but it only has isos for 12.04.1 alternate there is no iso for 12.10 alternate
[15:41] <jiwan> hey
[15:41] <Tojamm> Djones: thanks
[15:41] <jiwan> is there any way to access irc channel when my system crash?
[15:41] <jiwan> i am using ubuntu
[15:41] <arshavin> Tojamm: there is network installer,what exactly are you looking for?
[15:41] <Tojamm> I need some help. During install first steps ubuntu installer stops during HDD detection.(just before he asks about install side by side with win). It is a 750gb seagate with UEFI system and win 7 64 bit, verified ubuntu MD5 and image is correct, trying to install from USB, but as I mentioned Live works fine and everything works can access HDD and partitions no problem. I just cant install as
[15:41] <Tojamm> the installer hangs. I have been reading some articles but all mention boot issues and none mention the installer hanging. i try the ´sudo apt-get remove dmraid´ solution that did not work. I also try the secure-remix version and still no joy Anyone has any ideas??
[15:42] <DJones> !uefi | Tojamm
[15:43] <compdoc> Tojamm, which motherboard?
[15:43] <Tojamm> Djones: i read the page but it adresses mainly booting issues and my problem is that i dont even get to install it
[15:43] <arshavin> Tojamm: yes you need to see that article get it working on UEFI system
[15:43] <dagerik> i cant find the package sqlmap when using apt-cache search. but results from google indicate that it should be in package tree.
[15:43] <Tojamm> its a Vaio SVS1511 notebook with no secure boot
[15:44] <Tojamm> compdoc: its a Vaio SVS1511 notebook with no secure boot
[15:45] <arshavin> Tojamm: try this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150943/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-an-uefi-device-with-existing-gpt
[15:45] <compdoc> Tojamm, thanks - I have had uefi issues with a few desktop boards, but have no experience with notebooks
[15:46] <arshavin> Tojamm: this is more likely to help you http://askubuntu.com/questions/232602/dual-boot-windows-8-ubuntu-12-10-uefi
[15:47] <jiwan> how to connect mobile broadband using terminal
[15:47] <whiskers75> Is there a package for arm-elf-eabi-gcc?
[15:48] <arshavin> jiwan: which modem are you using
[15:48] <jiwan> i am using nokia mobile
[15:48] <arshavin> Tojamm: look for similar questions on right side of the page
[15:49] <arshavin> jiwan: what interface are you using bluettoth or usb?
[15:49] <jiwan> usb?
[15:50] <arshavin> if you are already connected to internet then download gnome-ppp and wvdial packages
[15:51] <Tojamm> arshavin: thanks for the links but they are all related to booting issues, i have no issue booting my issue is the installer hangs just before the allocate disk space dialog
[15:51] <jiwan> can i install sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp and wvdial
[15:51] <Sietsem> Hey, I have this really weird problem, my screen is blurry. But when I am typing, scrolling, selecting text, it gets sharp again. This happens to everything, not only text (pictures too).
[15:51] <arshavin> Tojamm: I have had similar issues with beta release of ubuntu12.10 builds,try another image
[15:52] <whiskers75> Sietsem: what computer?
[15:52] <recursive> hello, ive successfully converted from freebsd to ubuntu except for a serious snag, i created an ext2 partition on the whole hard drive (third drive in the laptop) and copied everything to be moved to linux. i then installed ubuntu using the uefi installation. anyhow, now that i am on ubuntu, the drive is not able to be mounted. im willing to try anything to get the data back... any help is appreciated
[15:52] <arshavin> jiwan:yes
[15:52] <Sietsem> whiskers75, Custom built, GTX660 with closed-source drivers and i5 3470
[15:52] <Crell> Hi all.  I'm trying to get my Nexus 4 to mount on Kubuntu 12.10 using  MTP mode, and having trouble.   I'm following through the instructions here: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/247-ubuntu-automount-nexus7-mtp (modifying for Nexus 4).  The phone isn't mounting, however, and "mount" reports no fuse information for it.  Any suggestions?
[15:53] <jiwan> arshavin: ok i have install
[15:53] <jiwan> then..
[15:53] <arshavin> Tojamm: Even had debian just stuck on network detection forever,sometimes it did and sometimes it didn't
[15:53] <arshavin> run wvdialconf in terminal sudo wvdialconf
[15:54] <jiwan> it says me permission denied
[15:54] <arshavin> sudo wvdialconf
[15:54] <arshavin> are you in sudoers list?
[15:55] <arshavin> jiwan : so you have sudo or su?
[15:55] <jiwan> yeah it shows me serial porst for modem
[15:55] <jiwan> i am using sudo
[15:55] <arshavin> now start gnome-ppp as sudo from terminal
[15:56] <jiwan> yeah
[15:56] <jiwan> what wil type in username
[15:56] <arshavin> user name anything you want
[15:57] <jiwan> password too...
[15:57] <arshavin> number if in india dial *99#
[15:57] <arshavin> choose any password you like
[15:57] <arshavin> now don't dial yet there should be a setting tab
[15:57] <jiwan> why *99#
[15:58] <arshavin> that is the number we usually dial or alternately *99***1#
[15:58] <arshavin> try the first one
[15:58] <jiwan> for what
[15:58] <arshavin> then go to advanced setting if there is one
[15:59] <jiwan> yeah there is a setup tab
[15:59] <arshavin> go to setup tab
[15:59] <jiwan> i already gone
[15:59] <jiwan> then
[16:00] <arshavin> what do u see in modem?
[16:00] <arshavin> ttyACM
[16:00] <jiwan> device name
[16:00] <arshavin> is it ?
[16:00] <jiwan> type
[16:00] <arshavin> click on detect
[16:00] <jiwan> devie:
[16:00] <jiwan> sorry
[16:00] <arshavin> click on detet
[16:00] <jiwan> No modem was found on your system
[16:01] <arshavin> click on /dev/modem dropdown
[16:01] <arshavin> do you see tty/ACM0
[16:02] <jiwan> no
[16:02] <arshavin> what did sudo wvdialconf tell you
[16:03] <arshavin> did it tell you modem found and settings written to /etc/wvdial.conf
[16:03] <jiwan> that shows me ttyACM0<Info>:Device or resource busy
[16:03] <jiwan> i am still using internet throug tmobile
[16:03] <arshavin> just disconnect and reconnect the cable after 5 seconds and run detect again
[16:04] <recursive> partition information: https://gist.github.com/4389352
[16:04] <canihojr> hi
[16:05] <recursive> not sure how parted can show msdos but fdsik doesnt work, i used dd to bakup the disk and i cant mount the backup either...
[16:05] <canihojr> howto i can integrate pidgin on gnome-shell on ubuntu 12.04 same as empaty?? and delete it??
[16:05] <roasted_> hello!
[16:06] <roasted_> Question - ATI's driver failed to install.Now when I boot up, I see the purple splash screen, I hear the drums indicating I'm at the login screen, but I'm only seeing black... I tried to boot to the grub menu to get into root recovery, but no matter how many times I hit shift udring boot, it will NOT come up. Even if I hold down shift, nothing. Eh?
[16:07] <iDM|Busy> Night
[16:11] <Dead-i> Hi, could anyone help me out quickly with a network issue I'm having with Ubuntu server?
[16:11] <Dead-i> I'm simply trying to connect my computer to my BTHub wired. I've defined eth0 and lo in /etc/network/interfaces, but I get "unknown host" when trying to ping google.com.
[16:11] <Dead-i> When I type ifconfig, only lo appears and not eth0
[16:12] <arshavin> Dead-i: what does lspci tell you?
[16:13] <Dead-i> arshavin: I've run the command, what am I looking for? "Ethernet controller"?
[16:13] <arshavin> yes
[16:14] <Dead-i> arshavin: "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)"
[16:14] <arshavin> Dead-i : so your hardware is detected fine
[16:14] <recursive> after executing: sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/archive -- i get the error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so -- all my data is on this drive, any help would be appreciated
[16:15] <danni> ciao
[16:15] <danni> list
[16:16] <mdh__> Is there a way to keep a computer that has Samba sharing on it from appearing in the Windows network pane of discovered network shares?
[16:16] <danni> list
[16:17] <iceroot> mdh__: for what reason? higher "security"?
[16:17] <mdh__> somewhat
[16:18] <arshavin> Dead-i : lshw -C Network
[16:18] <iceroot> mdh__: just disable guest logon or something like that but "hidding" the share is nothing related to security
[16:18] <mdh__> the share is set up to be accessed with no account, anonymous access, but i'd rather have it not announce itself to the network if that would be possible
[16:19] <Dead-i> arshavin: Outputs two sections, each starting with "*-network DISABLED" - one of them is the PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller and the other is the Wireless 802.11n PCIe.
[16:19] <iceroot> mdh__: there is a "public" entry in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[16:20] <iceroot> mdh__: but you can still access the share directly, to its not more secure then before
[16:20] <ubuntu> helo
[16:21] <Isens> hi
[16:21] <arshavin> Dead -i: network is disabled by hardware
[16:21] <iceroot> mdh__: and i guess you can see it also when scaning the pc for a samba server, the public entry is just the "wins-listing" on windows networks
[16:21] <Dead-i> arshavin: How would I enable it? In the BIOS?
[16:21] <mdh__> iceroot: exactly. is there a way to stop it from being scanned?
[16:22] <iceroot> mdh__: remove the network-cable
[16:22] <iceroot> mdh__: as you see "hidding" is not security
[16:22] <arshavin> Dead-i : your card is detected by kernel and has a driver too but it is disabled by hardware
[16:22] <detrimental> can anyone help me with transphering a rsa key, i set up my ubuntu ssh server yesterday i can log in my server via ssh with my computer, i just need to copy my rsa key to my coputer.
[16:23] <arshavin> Dead -i: which laptop are you using?
[16:23] <iceroot> detrimental: ssh-copy-id
[16:23] <mdh__> iceroot: is the scan really that agressive that this is impossible to do? i thought the reason that the windows machines could pick up that there was a share there was because samba was broadcasting or something
[16:23] <iceroot> mdh__: wins is broadcasting
[16:23] <detrimental> i tried and it times out. is that possible a config issue with mycomputer?
[16:23] <iceroot> mdh__: or netbios (cant rember what was used)
[16:23] <Dead-i> arshavin: Laptop?
[16:24] <iceroot> mdh__: and its more then broadcasting because its working not only on the subnet
[16:24] <iceroot> mdh__: its something like a nameserver
[16:24] <mdh__> iceroot: i've disabled both of them, and the only thing I see is when I disable netbios it cannot resolve the name from the network pane, but it still appears there as a share in the pane
[16:24] <llutz> detrimental: you run ssh on port != 22? can you login using ssh at all?
[16:25] <arshavin> Dead -i: model?
[16:25] <Dead-i> arshavin: Of my motherboard?
[16:25] <detrimental> yes i can log into the server, its on the same network. im loged on the server right now via ssh.
[16:25] <angs> how can I see the recently installed package from the console?
[16:25] <detrimental> on my laptop
[16:25] <angs> *packages
[16:25] <llutz> detrimental: you run ssh on port != 22?
[16:26] <arshavin> yes
[16:26] <detrimental> yes
[16:26] <arshavin> Dead -i:yes
[16:26] <detrimental> im thinking its my sshd_config on my laptop
[16:26] <Dead-i> arshavin: GIGABYTE B75M-D3H
[16:26] <llutz> detrimental: so run " ssh-copy-id "user@host -p xxxx"  "where xxxx is your portnumber
[16:26] <detrimental> ok
[16:27] <llutz> detrimental: without the outer quotes
[16:28] <detrimental> yes. i am right now, its not doing anything about to time out.
[16:28] <arshavin> Dead -i: if you have not changed anything from bios then it should be enabled by default
[16:29] <llutz> detrimental: you created you key on laptop and want to transfer it to the server?
[16:30] <llutz> detrimental: then your laptops sshd_config isn't inolved at all. run ssh-copy-id on laptop
[16:30] <detrimental> no created on server want want to copy to laptop
[16:30] <arshavin> Dead -i: if you mail me a copy of entire listing of sudo lshw -C Network to my mail that will help
[16:30] <arshavin> Dead -i: arshavin69ru@gmail.com
[16:30] <TheLordOfTime> arshavin, it's better if they pastebin it.
[16:30] <llutz> detrimental: ok, the the other way rout
[16:30] <detrimental> ok
[16:30] <llutz> round*
[16:30] <TheLordOfTime> arshavin, don't post your email here.
[16:30] <TheLordOfTime> arshavin, this channel is logged publicly, your email could end up in search results.
[16:30] <detrimental> im looking into my ssh and sshd_config on my laptop now.
[16:30] <arshavin> ok
[16:31] <arshavin> ok
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> arshavin, as i said, pastebinning data is how we prefer to see information from users.
[16:31] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin > arshavin
[16:31] <arshavin> ok pastebin it
[16:31] <Dead-i> arshavin: I enabled "Intel Virtualization Technology" but that's all I changed in the BIOS. However, after double checking, I just noticed that "Network stack" in the BIOS features is set on "Disable Link" - could that be why?
[16:31] <arshavin>  i'm loosing my mid these days
[16:31] <Dead-i> I'll put up a pastebin in a sec
[16:31] <llutz> detrimental: then this <detrimental> yes i can log into the server, its on the same network. im loged on the server right now via ssh.    " is not the answer to my question. are you able to ssh-login from server to laptop?
[16:31] <arshavin> try enabling it ,it won't do any harm
[16:32] <moon`> so I reboot the computer this morning and ubuntu won't boot up.  It doesn't even get to the login screen it just hangs, I can drop into a shell though
[16:32] <detrimental> i think i found the issue.
[16:33] <Dead-i> i think enabling that just crashed it :/
[16:33] <Dead-i> oh, its doing something, just going really slow... um
[16:33] <detrimental> its my ssh and sshd config on my laptop
[16:34] <arshavin> ok
[16:38] <kuckuck> nabend
[16:38] <kuckuck> kennt jemand nen pdf reader wo ich auch texte makieren kann? ggf editieren...
[16:38] <llutz> !de | kuckuck
[16:40] <kuckuck> ahh damn wrong channel ;)
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> kuckuck  inkscape
[16:40] <kuckuck> ok thanks will try it out
[16:41] <Crell> Hi all.  I'm trying to get my Nexus 4 to mount on Kubuntu 12.10 using  MTP mode, and having trouble.   I'm following through the instructions here: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/247-ubuntu-automount-nexus7-mtp (modifying for Nexus 4).  The phone isn't mounting, however, and "mount" reports no fuse information for it.  Any suggestions?
[16:41] <Dead-i> Okay so enabling Network Stack just made it hang for ages. *disables*
[16:42] <andornaut> Fresh install of 12.10 server, xfce4, lightdm (also tried gdm). GDM just shows a background, and no session selector window. The only way to login is by CTRL+ALT+F1, login, startx. Anyone ideas?
[16:43] <arshavin> Dead -i: ok still did you pastebin it?
[16:44] <Dead-i> arshavin: I'm typing it up now since i can't copy & paste. XD
[16:45] <[CaBeTuX]> hi!
[16:45] <ajkr> /
[16:45] <TheLordOfTime> Dead-i, if its command line output, you may be interested in pastebinit
[16:45] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebinit > Dead-i
[16:46] <Pici> TheLordOfTime: not going to be of much use if they can't get a network connection
[16:46] <Dead-i> TheLordOfTime: Thanks :)
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> Pici, i missed that.  that's their issue?
[16:46] <detrimental> i set my sshd and ssh config files to mimic the ones on my server and still can ssh-copy-id on port 22. is there another method of getting a key from my server to my laptop?
[16:46] <[CaBeTuX]> i've three instances in Amazon EC2. N1, N2, N3... N2 an N3 are clones to N1... in N3 work jmx console but in N1 and N2 not work! Error: TimeOut
[16:46] <TheLordOfTime> Pici, (blame xchat for being stupid)
[16:46] <Pici> TheLordOfTime: something with networking ;)
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> Pici, heh.
[16:47] <arshavin> Dead -i: by the way network stack is related to network booting and has nothing to do with ethernet,sorry for the crash
[16:47] <ikonia> detrimental: just scp it
[16:47] <ikonia> detrimental: or ftp it
[16:47] <ocontant> detrimental what are you trying to attempt^
[16:47] <andornaut> nvm, got it to work. needed to install unity-greeter
[16:47] <ocontant> ?
[16:47] <ikonia> detrimental: or any file transfer you want
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> Pici, well, can't blame me for trying to provide help if i didn't know their networking isn't working.  everyone makes mistakes/errors ;)
[16:47] <detrimental> i tried scp as well with n luck because its using ssh
[16:47] <Pici> TheLordOfTime: I wasn't placing blame, just letting you know ;)
[16:47] <detrimental> if i install ftp is it real vulerable?
[16:47] <TheLordOfTime> :)
[16:47] <ikonia> detrimental: what's the actual problem ?
[16:47] <ocontant> detrimental, edit the file of your key and copy paste it in an ansi editor
[16:48] <llutz> detrimental:can you login using ssh at all? use ssh -vvv user@laptop      and pastebin errors/logs
[16:48] <ocontant> ftp is just not encrypted but it's ok for me
[16:48] <detrimental> i can log onto my ubuntu ssh server from my laptop but i cant cssh-copy-id to my laptop
[16:48] <[CaBeTuX]> i need help with jmx... please!
[16:48] <ocontant> actually detrimental many people trying to help you but we don't know what is your issue, can you elaborate on it?
[16:48] <ikonia> detrimental: what's the error ?
[16:48] <ikonia> detrimental: what happens when you scp
[16:48] <ocontant> probably laptop doesn't have ssh server on it
[16:49] <ikonia> it doesn't need it if he uses scp
[16:49] <llutz> detrimental:can you login ON THE LAPTOP using ssh at all? did you install openssh-server on the LAPTOP at all? does sshd listen on LAPTOP at all?
[16:49] <ocontant> detrimental: you can scp from your laptop to your server but taking the file from your server instead of pushing ...
[16:49] <detrimental> yes
[16:49] <detrimental> i can log into ssh using laptop
[16:49] <ikonia> why don't you give us the error
[16:50] <detrimental> im trying to get the key from my server
[16:50] <ocontant> scp user@server:/pathtofile/filename localpathhereonyourlaptop
[16:50] <arshavin> Dead -i: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1329702
[16:50] <ocontant> you type this command from your laptop using a scp client on your laptop
[16:50] <ocontant> you can use winscp if you are using windows
[16:50] <ocontant> or scp directly if you use linux
[16:50] <arshavin> you can look here and follow steps on this forum to see it helps or not
[16:51] <detrimental> im on my server and just used scp file location user@host:filedestination
[16:51] <fornax> Hello
[16:51] <detrimental> and it timed out
[16:51] <ikonia> detrimental: ???
[16:51] <ocontant> detrimental, if your laptop doesn't have a ssh server you cannot scp to your laptop from the server
[16:51] <ikonia> detrimental: of course it will, unless you are running a server on your laptop
[16:51] <ikonia> detrimental: you pull it from your laptop not push it from the server
[16:51] <detrimental> so i can connect to my laptop to server but not server to laptop
[16:51] <xaxisx> hey #ubuntu, I'm trying to run a node.js server on my ubuntu 10.04 LTS server. I start the node server using screen. It serves the correct file when I'm logged into SSH, but when I log out of SSH the node server can't find any files, index.html for example. It feels like a premissions issue, but I don't know what would change when I logout of SSH.
[16:51] <fornax> The titlebar on Xubuntu's windows has gone completely. I don't recall doing anything to remove it. Anyone know how to trace the error and fix it?
[16:51] <detrimental> ok
[16:52] <ikonia> detrimental: is your laptop running sshd ?
[16:52] <detrimental> yes
[16:52] <ocontant> brb
[16:52] <ikonia> detrimental: your laptop is running sshd ?
[16:52] <detrimental> yes
[16:52] <Dead-i> arshavin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470359/
[16:52] <ikonia> detrimental: so if you do "ssh localhost" on your laptop what happens ?
[16:52] <arshavin> Dead -i: ok
[16:52] <detrimental> connection refused
[16:53] <llutz> detrimental: on laptop: "pgrep ssh"
[16:53] <llutz> detrimental: on laptop: "pgrep sshd"
[16:53] <detrimental> ok
[16:53] <detrimental> i did
[16:53] <llutz> detrimental: on laptop: "pgrep sshd"    any output?
[16:54] <detrimental> no output
[16:54] <ikonia> detrimental: so if you do "ssh localhost" on your laptop what happens ?
[16:54] <fornax> anyone please?
[16:54] <llutz> detrimental: so NO SSHD running on laptop
[16:54] <detrimental> connection refused
[16:54] <zilla> hi I just updated to 12.04 and grub2 will not show my OS choices even after trying to enter the menu
[16:54] <ikonia> detrimental: right so sshd is not running on your laptop
[16:54] <llutz> detrimental: sudo service ssh restart
[16:54] <ikonia> detrimental: why do you think sshd is running on your laptop ?
[16:54] <zilla> how can I see my grub menu in grub2
[16:54] <kuckuck> inkscape seems not very comfortable, i can not open more as 1 site ... that sucks.  xjournal for example has wiorks nice, but can not copy text from pdf -.-
[16:55] <detrimental> my laptop is arch
[16:55] <llutz> detrimental: if that fails, "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[16:55] <ikonia> detrimental: why do you think sshd is running on your laptop ?
[16:55] <zilla> just updated to 12.04 and grub is not showing the menu
[16:55] <llutz> detrimental: have a nice day
[16:55] <zilla> what is the least error prone way of restoring my grub menu
[16:55] <zilla> ???
[16:55] <tvfae> hi is it possible
[16:55] <DJones> zilla: Hold down the left shift key when the machine starts up, that should display the grub menu
[16:55] <zilla> DJones: that is not working
[16:55] <zilla> just updated to grub 2.0
[16:55] <tvfae> to install XFCE in UBUNTU UNITY VERSION ?
[16:56] <ikonia> tvfae: TYPING IN CAPS ISN'T NEEDED
[16:56] <fornax> The titlebar on Xubuntu's windows has gone completely. I don't recall doing anything to remove it. Anyone know how to trace the error and fix it?
[16:56] <zilla> holding down left shift key does not start GRUB2.0
[16:56] <zilla> what is the most common fix
[16:56] <zilla> I know this issue is common
[16:56] <zilla> from google
[16:56] <arshavin> Dead-i : try this : edit /etc/network/interfaces
[16:56] <arshavin> Dead-i : try this : add following
[16:57] <ikonia> detrimental: why do you think sshd is running on your laptop ?
[16:57] <Dead-i> arshavin: Add what? :S
[16:57] <arshavin> Dead-i : auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp
[16:57] <tvfae> Hi can I install XFCE with UNITY in Ubuntu ? pm plz for answer
[16:57] <ikonia> tvfae: XFCE is a seperate desktop from unity
[16:58] <recursive> im not sure how this happened, but i have a valid mbr and a corrupted gpt, can i simply remove the gpt table and be able to use the disk using mbr?
[16:58] <ikonia> tvfae: please styping in caps
[16:58] <ikonia> tvfae: they are totally seperate
[16:58] <arshavin> Dead-i : auto eth0        #on the first line
[16:58] <Dead-i> arshavin: That's already there I think
[16:58] <Dead-i> arshavin: I'm inside an Xen kernel
[16:58] <detrimental> ikonia: i downloaded openssh on my laptop as well, i thought i needed it to connect via ssh
[16:58] <tvfae> ikonia ty for u answer, is it safe also to install xfce, I won't have conflict etc?
[16:59] <ikonia> tvfae: totally safe
[16:59] <arshavin> then try sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[16:59] <ikonia> detrimental: openssh is not sshd
[16:59] <ikonia> detrimental: what did you do to check you where running sshd ?
[16:59] <zilla> GRUB MENU NOT SHOWING UP AFTER UBUNTU
[16:59] <arshavin> Dead-i :  sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[16:59] <tvfae> ikonia ty man!! i will install it for gaming hihihih
[16:59] <detrimental> ikonia i think i found the issue systemctl enable sshd.service since im using arch on my laptop
[17:00] <detrimental> im trying again now
[17:00] <zilla> grub menu is gone from ubuntu 12.04
[17:00] <ikonia> detrimental: you just need to pull, not push
[17:00] <ikonia> detrimental: when people ask you things - check them in future please.
[17:00] <zilla> how can i change the grub timeout
[17:00] <detrimental> ok so i dont need sshd
[17:01] <ikonia> correcy
[17:01] <ikonia> correct even
[17:01] <IdleOne> !grub2 | zilla
[17:01] <_Trullo> http://linuxpoison.blogspot.se/2010/11/how-to-change-grub-2-default-timeout.html
[17:01] <Tech-1> zilla>  /etc/default... be careful
[17:01] <test_> hi
[17:02] <Dead-i> arshavin: "eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[17:02] <Dead-i> arshavin: Also here's my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470377/
[17:02] <arshavin> Dead-i :  ok
[17:02] <detrimental> so run ssh-copy-id on my laptop in terminal?
[17:02] <detrimental> no in ssh
[17:02] <detrimental> t
[17:03] <ikonia> ?
[17:04] <i_mikri_annoula> hello. I'm a new user of ubuntu. I used to login using mirc... what client you think is the best for ubuntu?
[17:04] <zoite> xchat2 would be similar
[17:04] <NewWorld> i_mikri_annoula:  Xchat is similar
[17:05] <zoite> oh right, just xchat. xchat2 is the windows version
[17:05] <arshavin> Dead-i is enable networking ticked in your network manager applet
[17:05] <tvfae> I also wonder if xfce is gtk or qt, by that I mean can i use kde apps in xfce?
[17:06] <ikonia> tvfae: gtk
[17:06] <ThinkT510> tvfae: it is gtk based
[17:06] <Dead-i> arshavin: Network manager applet?
[17:06] <arshavin> nm-applet
[17:06] <ThinkT510> tvfae: you can use qt apps in any desktop environment
[17:07] <arshavin> Dead-i :  are you using any desktop manager or just shell?
[17:07] <tvfae> ty for anwer!
[17:07] <Dead-i> arshavin: I'm using Ubuntu Server, so just shell
[17:07] <i_mikri_annoula> I miss the little merlin... :-P using xchat I can't figure out how to enable sounds!
[17:08] <FlowRiser> i_mikri_annoula, you need to go into preferences and select a sound file
[17:08] <Dead-i> arshavin: I don't believe i have network-manager installed either
[17:09] <arshavin> Dead-i :  try installing it
[17:09] <arshavin> Dead-i :   sudo apt-get install network-manager
[17:10] <Dead-i> arshavin: Uhhhmmmmmm... I'll see if I can get it to connect wirelessly
[17:10] <Dead-i> considering i can't install w/ apt-get w/o internet
[17:10] <kqr> hello. i am trying to install python 3, but apt-get gives me errors: http://pastebin.com/eP2hMa6K
[17:10] <angs> a kernel module uses a specific usb device, is it possible to locate what module on lsmod is using the usb device?
[17:10] <kqr> could anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:11] <freshstart> http://pastebin.com/GbxRfnEH why i have 2 2.4G Receiver unter virtual core pointer?
[17:11] <freshstart> under*
[17:11] <i_mikri_annoula> FlowRiser I actually have enabled sounds, I just can't hear them! (although I know speakers are ok)
[17:12] <FlowRiser> i_mikri_annoula, i mean actually selecting a sound file
[17:13] <i_mikri_annoula> I have it on "auto". isn't that enough?
[17:13] <arshavin> Dead-i :   hey try this one it should bring all interfaces in your /etc/network/interfaces up
[17:13] <FlowRiser> i_mikri_annoula, select an alert and then click browse to look for a sound file
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> kqr  #python, 1000+ people there
[17:13] <arshavin> Dead-i :  sudo ifup -a
[17:13] <kqr> MonkeyDust, fair enough!
[17:14] <kqr> MonkeyDust, including me, i just noticed!
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> :)
[17:14] <arshavin> Dead-i :  this must work as your interfaces seem to be disabled somehow
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <kqr> MonkeyDust, #python tells me its something with how ubuntu configures their packages
[17:15] <arshavin> on servers without gui this is the way to activate or deactivate network interfaces
[17:15] <AisQtis> a
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <FloodBot1> AisQtis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:15] <AisQtis> 82.135.154.150:27015 cs server cool
[17:16] <arshavin> Dead-i: after running the command do sudo lshw -C network
[17:21] <Dead-i> brb
[17:21] <arshavin> Dead-: did that work
[17:22] <arshavin> Dead-: after doing ifup start networking service and check sudo lshw -C network
[17:22] <arshavin> it should read enabled
[17:26] <rgenito> hmm, can /etc/hosts be used to send HTTP requests for "www.mysite.com" to a different server?
[17:30] <Median> So I've been wondering quite a lot what Ultrabook I should get.. I've come to the conclusion that I want either the ASUS UX32A or ASUS UX32VD. Now, the price difference is quite huge and it might be unnecessary to spend too much money. The UX32VD feels more futureproof, it also has a better screen, better processor and a dedicated GPU. Anyone that have some ideas on which one I shall pick?
[17:30] <Median> Planning to use the laptop for school, programming, design (Photoshop), other work and so on.
[17:30] <SunTsu> rgenito: no, you only can resolve that host name to a different ip address, which will send HTTP requests there - and everything else
[17:31] <rgenito> Median, i got the Vizio ultrabook. so happy :D
[17:31] <bazhang> Median, ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:31] <rgenito> SunTsu how do i do that? :(
[17:31] <Median> bazhang: Sorry. :)
[17:31] <SunTsu> Median: both have too little ram for me, so I'd go for a Lenovo X1 instead
[17:31] <bazhang> SunTsu, lets get back on topic
[17:34] <SunTsu> rgenito: just edit it, take the existing entries for localhost as a template
[17:34] <Dead-i> back
[17:34] <rgenito> SunTsu, by "just edit it", you mean edit /etc/hosts ?
[17:35] <Dead-i> arshavin: when i run  ifup start networking  it says unknown interface start=start and networking=networking
[17:35] <SunTsu> rgenito: yes. You need to make sure that in /etc/nsswitch.conf the line hosts:          ... starts with hosts: files
[17:36] <rgenito> thanks SunTsu , and yes it does (this is a default install of ubuntu 12.10 ... so everything is still default)
[17:36] <rgenito> however i have this...
[17:36] <rgenito> http://pastie.org/private/s2488imd1zhtjcqpzpevq
[17:37] <rgenito> ^--- that's my console session. it appears my entry is wrong :(
[17:37] <rgenito> any idea what i am missing?
[17:37] <SunTsu> rgenito: well, host always queries dns server, try ping
[17:38] <moon`> So I can't get ubuntu to boot up.  From the grub loader it just goes to a black screen.  I can switch into a shell and if I try running startx from shell I get nothing.  The resolution changes and there's a command prompt in the upper left hand corner of the screen but I can't type anything
[17:38] <moon`> suggestions
[17:38] <rgenito> SunTsu thanks lemme try...
[17:38] <Shucky> someone know how to do a ProxyReverse on host with gnutls enable
[17:39] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> which channel is the non related one ?
[17:39] <rgenito> SunTsu wow! sweet...thanks :)
[17:39] <rgenito> SunTsu, now....i just gotta figure out how to get the browser to use the new entry in /etc/hosts :) hehe
[17:39] <SunTsu> rgenito: it does
[17:39] <bazhang> !ot | HOBOTOMTOMGPS
[17:39] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> thank u sir
[17:40] <rgenito> thank you SunTsu !
[17:42] <anngela_1> dada_:
[17:43] <anngela_1> dada_: popat
[17:44] <Dead-i> Does anyone have any ideas regarding my networking issue? Something I find a bit weird is that lshw -C network for the Ethernet interface has a logical name of p4p1 instead of eth0
[17:44] <scarrs> hello again, I would like to install old school XMMS onto ubuntu 12.04... I don't want xmms2 and I don't want audacious. help?
[17:44] <bazhang> !xmms | scarrs
[17:45] <unclefireball> hi. I'm trying to use the migration part of the installer
[17:45] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Which kernel module?
[17:45] <unclefireball> do I have to dual-boot in order to do that?
[17:46] <Dead-i> dodo3773: I'm not quite sure what you mean, though right now I'm under an Xen kernel
[17:46] <Dead-i> uname -a shows "3.5.0-17-generic"
[17:46] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Oh no I mean for your network card. lspci -k
[17:46] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Is it a unique card or something?
[17:47] <Dead-i> dodo3773: It's a "Realtek Semiconductor PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Cable (rev 06)"
[17:47] <angs> I downloaded a file "libusb-dev_0.1.12-20_armhf.deb" how do I suppose to install it?
[17:47] <angs> what is the command for it?
[17:47] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Kernel modules: r8169
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> angs  dpkg -i
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> angs  dpkg -i [your.deb]
[17:48] <angs> thank you MonkeyDust
[17:48] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Dual boot machine?
[17:49] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Nope, just Ubuntu server (with an Xen kernel)
[17:49] <lucien> welp welp what's going on in this channel?
[17:49] <bazhang> ubuntu support lucien
[17:51] <angs> MonkeyDust: I need to install libusb-dev_0.1.12-20_armhf.deb file on my toolchain (arm-linux-gnueabihf).  dpkg -i outputs that package architecture (armhf) does not match system (i386). Do you know is there any way to install that package under /usr/arm-linux-gnueabihf directory?
[17:51] <ThinkT510> !arm | angs
[17:52] <Shucky> no one?
[17:53] <angs> ThinkT510: does it explain how to install that package on the directory that I need?
[17:54] <KeyboardNotFound> if you register you must enter the e-mail?
[17:54] <lucien> angs: ThinkT510 meant that we don't support arm in here and you should try #ubuntu-arm
[17:54] <bazhang> angs /join #ubuntu-arm
[17:54] <ThinkT510> angs: i'm just pointing out the #ubuntu-arm channel, they will likely know better than here
[17:54] <angs> thank you I will try my chance there
[17:54] <bazhang> KeyboardNotFound, yes. support in #freenode
[17:55] <Dead-i> Just changed my interfaces from eth0 to p4p1, and it works O_o
[17:55] <e-head> Hey, I screwed up a couple of apache modules.
[17:55] <cool_boy> I just deleted an important picture with Shift + delete by mistake
[17:55] <cool_boy> is there a way to get it back?
[17:55] <cool_boy> 	I am using ubuntu 12.04
[17:55] <e-head> How can I get apt to reinstall all the apache modules?
[17:55] <lucien> cool_boy of course
[17:55] <cool_boy> how lucien ?
[17:56] <lucien> shift+delete does not write 0's on that file, it just deletes it from the tree, cool_boy
[17:56] <cool_boy> yes i read it one time ..but how can I get it back?
[17:56] <lucien> !datarecovery > cool_boy
[17:57] <andrei_> hello, sorry to jump into the discussion. I think the inode remains. if you can find the Inode number then this will help : http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.ro/2008/08/recovering-deleted-files-by-inode.html
[17:57] <lucien> !undelete > cool_boy
[17:57] <ThinkT510> lucien: he left
[17:57] <lucien> awh didn't notice
[17:57] <lucien> thanks ThinkT510
[18:00] <andrei_> what would be a good starting point in becoming a ubuntu contributor ?
[18:00] <DJones> !contribute | andrei_
[18:00] <cool_boy> lucien: Sorry net disconnected
[18:00] <Petaz> close xchat windows is a good 1st step :)
[18:00] <lucien> !participate > andrei_
[18:00] <cool_boy> so please can you tell me a way to get it back?
[18:00] <lucien> !undelete > cool_boy
[18:01] <cool_boy> ubottu: thanks
[18:02] <andrei_> thanks for help :)
[18:04] <KeyboardNotFound> this server is found of ubuntu ?
[18:05] <cool_boy> so thanks lucien !!
[18:05] <cool_boy> I am reading
[18:05] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Okay I was gone for a sec. Are you still there?
[18:05] <lucien> you're welcome cool_boy
[18:05] <cool_boy> :)
[18:05] <lucien> KeyboardNotFound: explain?
[18:06] <KeyboardNotFound> lucein:
[18:06] <KeyboardNotFound> whether this irc server is owned by Ubuntu?
[18:06] <bazhang> KeyboardNotFound, no
[18:06] <lucien> !freenode | KeyboardNotFound
[18:07] <lucien> I should have user > my bad.
[18:07] <dante> Hi all
[18:07] <lucien> Good day to you, dante.
[18:07] <dante> It's midnight here :P
[18:08] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Yes thanks, and I've got it working now :) I changed my interfaces file and switched "eth0" for "p4p1" and it works :)
[18:08] <lucien> Pleasant time to you, dante.
[18:08] <d4rkh4nd> Long shot: Anyone here use EasyBashGUI ?
[18:08] <angs> does anyone know how to use xdeb? how can I install .deb file by using xdeb?
[18:08] <Dead-i> Thanks for your help @ arshavin and dodo3773
[18:08] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Oh nice. Glad it was something simple :)
[18:08] <dante> Hey lucien, can you assist me installing/configuring my VGA drivers? :(
[18:09] <lucien> dante: I've got to go right, now the others can help you though. Feel free to ask anything.
[18:09] <dodo3773> d4rkh4nd: What is that? Something to make using zenity easier it looks like?
[18:11] <CATDOG> can someone send me excel or office old one ok
[18:11] <ikonia> CATDOG: what ?
[18:11] <bazhang> CATDOG, old one what
[18:11] <CATDOG> 2003
[18:11] <DJones> !piracy | CATDOG
[18:11] <ikonia> CATDOG: this isn't a wares channel
[18:11] <milamber> !warez | CATDOG
[18:11] <bazhang> CATDOG, this is ubuntu support...
[18:12] <CATDOG> srry
[18:12] <Dead-i> dodo3773: I've noticed that the video output of my server only comes thru the graphics card and not my motherboard - would this be something to change in the BIOS?
[18:13] <detrimental> is it possible to change my router to point to a diff dns on my network? i want to basicly have an alterd dns so within my network i can change things
[18:13] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Yeah, it could be. May not be a bad place to start. No video right now?
[18:14] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Not through the motherboard, no, though the CLI comes up thru the graphics card
[18:14] <dodo3773> Dead-i: So you can see it in lspci?
[18:15] <dodo3773> Dead-i: But you cannot access the bios or soemthing?
[18:15] <badbandit> does anyone have a recommendation for a pdf app where I can add/write/edit anything on the pdf?
[18:15] <badbandit> trying to fill out a W9 form and just one damn field isnt letting me auto-fill it out!
[18:15] <Dead-i> dodo3773: I can access the BIOS if I plug the DVI into the graphics card instead of my motherboard :)
[18:15] <Dead-i> I'll take a look at the BIOS when this ISO has finished downloading.
[18:16] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Oh. Weird. Is this not going to be a headless server?
[18:16] <Burukun> !guidelines
[18:16] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Since I'm running Xen, I'd like to run a Windows HVM off it and pass it thru the graphics card. I'll want the actual server output coming thru the motherboard though, so I can switch to the main CLI if I need to
[18:17] <Dead-i> The Radeon graphics card appears as the "VGA Comaptbile Controller" and "Audio Device" in lspci
[18:18] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Ah. Well, my server expertise is lacking. I don't want to steer you in the wrong direction. That being said if you can see it in lspci sounds like it's working fine to me
[18:18] <Dead-i> dodo3773: Ok thanks :)
[18:18] <dodo3773> Dead-i: Welcome. Wish I could help more
[18:18] <watchtower> does anyone no how to install a .sh file
[18:18] <rauhfasertapete> Running on 12.10, my mouse buttons stop working sporadically. Do you have an idea about the issue?
[18:18] <arshavin> badbandit:  maybe ocular
[18:20] <watchtower> please help
[18:20] <rauhfasertapete> watchtower: what do you mean by "install a .sh file"?
[18:20] <watchtower> well i download a game from internet for linux and its given me a sh file extension
[18:21] <watchtower> vendetta-linux-ia32-installer.sh
[18:21] <allgood38> watchtower, you execute it like a bash script
[18:21] <allgood38> watchtower, there are a couple ways to do it
[18:22] <watchtower> could u advise me on the best way please
[18:22] <allgood38> for sure, are you comfortable navigating the terminal?
[18:23] <watchtower> Yes i have some knowledge within the terminal
[18:23] <dkessel> watchtower: are you trying to install vendetta online?
[18:23] <watchtower> Yes but its given me a download link for the file to install
[18:23] <allgood38> okay cool, cd into the folder containing the file, then type `bash <file name>.sh`
[18:24] <allgood38> You could also just right click it in the file explorer and set it to executable, then double click it
[18:25] <watchtower> Yes can you give me a quick second sorry
[18:26] <watchtower> it says its decompressing is that a good sign
[18:27] <freshstart> I use Linux Mint 13 Mate.How do I set the default file manager to be Dolphin?
[18:27] <bazhang> freshstart, ask mint support
[18:27] <angs> could anyone suggest me a cross compiler package to install a .deb (for arm) file on my desktop x86?
[18:27] <freshstart> bazhang: still waiting
[18:27] <bazhang> freshstart, its not supported here
[18:27] <k1l> !mint | freshstart
[18:28] <ikonia> angs: you don't install a crosscompiled package
[18:28] <watchtower> Yes it worked allgood38 thanks
[18:28] <ikonia> angs: the package is already compiled if it's in the deb
[18:28] <rauhfasertapete> Running on 12.10, my mouse buttons stop working sporadically. Do you have an idea about the issue?
[18:28] <allgood38> watchtower: cool, no worries
[18:29] <NewWorld> rauhfasertapete:  did you try another mouse or tried the current mouse on another  machine to exclude Ubuntu being at fault?
[18:29] <spankme> hi everyone! I've issue with iptables and NAT'ing, I think I've reasonably clean iptables set, and yet I am getting messages about traffic being blocked that shouldnt be, if anyone could take a look, I'd appreciate a lot: http://pastebin.com/jmXmn2pS
[18:29] <rauhfasertapete> NewWorld: Yes, I basically have a notebook and two hardware setups (home, office). Happens in both.
[18:30] <rauhfasertapete> NewWorld: Oh, ok. I did not try another machine. Why would that be relevant?
[18:30] <NewWorld> rauhfasertapete:  to make sure that the mouse isn't faulty
[18:31] <spankme> anyone?
[18:31] <angs> ikonia: I need to install the package(libusb-dev_0.1.12-20_armhf.deb) to be able to use on my toolchain(arm-linux-gnueabihf).dpkg -i .deb outputs "package architecture (armhf) does not match system (i386)". what package do I need to use to install .deb file on my system (i386)?
[18:32] <bazhang> spankme, try #netfilter
[18:32] <spankme> angs: your package is for wrong cpu architecture
[18:32] <ikonia> angs: some sort of cross-compile/toolchain package if it exists
[18:32] <ikonia> angs: you don't build a toolchain by installing arm debs
[18:32] <spankme> you've typical PC cpu, and you're trying instal ARM stuff
[18:32] <watchtower> Hey all good where would the installation be i mean the shorcut where it installed
[18:33] <ikonia> spankme: read what he's trying to do
[18:33] <locate> hey guys
[18:34] <locate> is this a  support channel or is general talk ok too?
[18:34] <ikonia> locate: no
[18:34] <ikonia> locate: support only
[18:34] <angs> ikonia, spankme: I installed gcc-linux-arm-gnueabihf toolchain. However it misses libusb API and I cannot crosscompile the code. libusb-dev_0.1.12-20_armhf.deb is the libusb package that I need. Do you know how I can install that package on my host machine to be able to use by the toolchain?
[18:34] <locate> Ah,  I see thanks :)
[18:35] <ikonia> angs: you can't use that package as your toolchain
[18:36] <angs> ikonia: maybe I used wrong sentences. Is it possible to copy the headers/libraries in the package to the toolchain's directories?
[18:37] <ikonia> angs: you can try to decompress the package, but that's not how I'd suggest going
[18:37] <watchtower> Hey please help i installed a install .sh file with the terminal i cd to directry like normal then i did the bash command it said successfully installed now i cant find the executable where it said it installed
[18:38] <ikonia> watchtower: what did you install ?
[18:38] <watchtower> vendetta online game
[18:38] <angs> ikonia: thank you I will try to copy the files manually.
[18:38] <KeyboardNotFound> why i try to enter #php i am redirected to ##php
[18:39] <ikonia> watchtower: I'd suggest reading the documentation to see where it puts it as I'm not familier with that installer
[18:39] <watchtower> Ok thanks
[18:40] <k1l> KeyboardNotFound: that is an issue for #freenode (since that is not ubuntu related)
[18:40] <KeyboardNotFound> sorry :(
[18:45] <bill> xbmc wont install]
[18:46] <fearphage> after upgrading to 12.10, it only thinks I have a single CPU instead of the 4 I actually have. 12.04 shows all 4 while 12.10 shows one. Can anyone point me to a resource to rectify this?
[18:46] <Guest52884> i am using spark linux it sucks
[18:46] <lvleph> bill: check out #xbmc channel
[18:46] <bekks> fearphage: cat /proc/cpuinfo will show you all four cores.
[18:46] <Guest52884> i did they say to use term to install failed
[18:47] <fearphage> Guest52884: #xbmc on freenode
[18:47] <fearphage> that's the official channel
[18:47] <blami> is there lens where one can put favorite apps?
[18:47] <Guest52884> ok i just install this and miss zorin
[18:48] <blami> I would like to have a single screen of applications I use often but don't want them in dock ...
[18:48] <fearphage> bekks: it only shows 1
[18:48] <Guest52884> i am horney lol
[18:49] <bekks> fearphage: Do you use specific kernel options, a specific kernel, etc. ?
[18:49] <fearphage> bekks: i do not. jsut upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10. rebooted to a grub error and had to resolve that. now i'm in a super slow session of 12.10
[18:49] <cool_boy> lucien:  could not restore
[18:50] <bekks> fearphage: Could you pastebin the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo please?
[18:50] <bekks> !paste > fearphage
[18:51] <fearphage> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470631/
[18:53] <Jordan_U> fearphage: Could you boot from a 12.04 LiveCD/USB and pastebin the contents of /proc/cpuinfo from there?
[18:53] <cool_boy> somebody every could succeed in restore a permanently deleted image?
[18:53] <cool_boy> in ext4 file system
[18:53] <cool_boy> ?
[18:54] <Jordan_U> cool_boy: How did you "permanently delete" it?
[18:54] <euax> cool_boy: use testdisk.
[18:54] <cool_boy> Jordan_U: Shift + Delete
[18:55] <cool_boy> used extundelete: failed to read-only open device "/dev/sda9": Error code 13
[18:58] <fearphage> Jordan_U: i have a coworker with the same computer who is on 12.04. Would that suffice?
[18:58] <fearphage> I can't reboot right this second
[18:58] <watchtower> What would be the advantages of using virtualization for server use then just using the ubuntu 12.10
[18:59] <bekks> watchtower: The ability to change the host without having to reinstall your server.
[19:00] <watchtower> Could you elaborate please
[19:00] <bekks> watchtower: You can run the VM on whatever host supporting the virtualization software you are using.
[19:01] <devxdev> watchtower, http://superuser.com/questions/218313/advantages-of-using-a-virtual-machine
[19:01] <ovrflw0x> okay, so my wifi LED "indicator" on button is messed up, it shows "Off" light but wifi is "On", wtf!? how  to fix the led?
[19:01] <watchtower> Ok thanks
[19:02] <fearphage> bekks Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/ee506d25208afae03334 cpuinfro from the same computer running 12.04
[19:03] <lucien> welp
[19:04] <b3nj> hi
[19:04] <b3nj> need help
[19:04] <k1l> !help | b3nj
[19:05] <ovrflw0x> okay, so my wifi LED "indicator" on button is messed up, it shows "Off" light but wifi is "On", wtf!? how  to fix the led?
[19:05] <b3nj> i have disassembled my laptop and i want to lubricate fan, how do i do that?
[19:05] <bazhang> b3nj, ask in ##hardware NOT here
[19:06] <DJones> b3nj: You're probably better asking that in ##hardware rather than here
[19:06] <b3nj> okay, bazhang, DJones
[19:06] <b3nj> disconnecdt
[19:07] <Gusteru> hi ! I installed ubuntu on usb hdd external box .... and when restart the computer no boot ubuntu from the hdd ... boot hard disk from the computer and start the windows7
[19:08] <_graham_> You might need to reconfigure your bios settings to boot from the other hard drive?
[19:08] <devxdev> Gusteru, thats because the MBR was configed on the external drive not the primary
[19:09] <devxdev> it has to write grub to the MBR on the primary drive, did you try to boot to the external?
[19:09] <Gusteru> devxdev and what need now ? I set to boot from the usb but no .. :(
[19:11] <chocka> I have a new windows 8 laptop with 8 GB RAM, core i5 processor. I want to install ubuntu with 100 GB space on it. Do I need to have a separate partition for swap for an 8 GB RAM? Suggest
[19:12] <Gusteru> _graham_, I set to boot from the usb ... but not work
[19:12] <devxdev> Gusteru, when the machine boots up push F12; or what ever your manual boot button is, try selecting the external from there.
[19:12] <lucien> chocka: I have 6GB of ram, and a swap but it never fills up, you can also have a swap file
[19:12] <_graham_> chocka: What do you plan to do with it?
[19:12] <chocka> I run fortran based programs in unix environment
[19:12] <_graham_> My home machine is 16GB, but rarely gets beyond 8GB in use and never touches the swap space...
[19:13] <bekks> chocka: When going to use suspend2disk, you need 8GB swap at least.
[19:13] <blami> chocka: with 8gigs of ram you will probably don't need swap at all (unless you want to run oracle or vm's on it)
[19:13] <_graham_> And that runs some biggish stuff - minecraft server and so on...
[19:13] <Gusteru> devxdev, I did manually boot but it did not work
[19:14] <blami> bekks: doesn't he can simply use temporary swapfile on / for hibernation?
[19:14] <bekks> blami: Which uses the same amount of space as using a separate swap partition.
[19:15] <chocka> ok, while installing ubuntu, what would be the order for partition: first partition / (20 gb) then swap (10 gb for a 8 gb RAM), then /home (70 gb). will this be prper way?
[19:15] <bekks> chocka: The order is irrelevant.
[19:17] <lucien> 10gb swap? erm.
[19:17] <bekks> lucien: 16G swap for 16G RAM when going to use suspend2disk.
[19:18] <fearphage> bekks Jordan_U: i rebooted. here's the cpuinfo from 12.04 https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3 vs 12.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470631/
[19:18] <lucien> bekks: erm.. I never found hibernation-enabling features usefull.
[19:19] <chocka> bekks: while partitioning swap, / (root) etc., should I partition as 'primary' or 'logical'
[19:19] <Gusteru> devxdev, what is the solution ?
[19:20] <lucien> chocka: the partition containing /boot should be primary.
[19:20] <lucien> chocka: and also have a bootable flag set.
[19:21] <chocka> lucien: do you mean the option 'device for bootlaoder' ?
[19:21] <devxdev> Gusteru, no idea buddy, looks like a failed install if you can't even manually boot the drive; is it a Laptop? if not swap the drive into the primary hdd slot and try that
[19:21] <Gusteru> devxdev, yes, is laptop
[19:22] <lucien> chocka: no. don't worry about bootable flag. ubuntu installation media should take care of that for you.
[19:22] <lucien> chocka: just make / primary
[19:22] <kingbeast> Gusteru, what brand is it?
[19:22] <chocka> lucien: //and also have a bootable flag set// how to do this?
[19:23] <fearphage> bekks: can you help me?
[19:23] <lucien> chocka: ubiquity should take care of that.
[19:23] <Gusteru> kingbeast, HP 530
[19:23] <chocka> ok
[19:23] <Guest65852> ajhoo
[19:23] <Guest65852> ma dove sono ?
[19:23] <Guest65852> e che cazz
[19:24] <lucien> Guest65852: #ubuntu-it
[19:24] <Guest65852> ok esco ciaoo a tt
[19:24] <Jordan_U> lucien: chocka: GNU/Linux doesn't care about parititons being primary or having the boot flag. Everything will work fine with / on a logical partition with no boot flag.
[19:24] <Guest65852> grazie
[19:24] <lucien> Jordan_U: I've encountered problems while having a bootable partition as logical though.
[19:25] <Jordan_U> lucien: What problems? As long as grub's boot sector is installed in the MBR, which is where it should be, you should have no problem with the partition containing /boot/ being logical.
[19:26] <kingbeast> Gusteru, ok was just making sure it wasn't a Dell, some of them have an OS install mode in the bios
[19:27] <Gusteru> kingbeast, so ? try to reinstall ?
[19:27] <Jordan_U> chocka: I would recommend just letting Ubuntu's installer create partitions automatically. With Ubuntu's installer you can even re-install while preserving /home/ without a separate /home/ partition (though if you plan to use the same /home/ with other distributions having it be separate may make some things easier).
[19:28] <kingbeast> Gusteru, what version are you trying to install?
[19:28] <Gusteru> the last version of ubuntu
[19:28] <Gusteru> 12.10 or some
[19:29] <kingbeast> Gusteru, 32 or 64bit?
[19:29] <Jordan_U> fearphage: What is the output of "uname -r" from Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[19:29] <Gusteru> kingbeast,  32
[19:29] <Jordan_U> fearphage: And can you also pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[19:30] <kingbeast> Gusteru, yeah just try to reinstall it. double check your install medium first.
[19:30] <chocka> Jordan_U: so while paritioning I choose 'Install Ubuntu along windows 8' ?
[19:30] <Gusteru> okey
[19:30] <lucien> Jordan_U: I remember having grub installed on a logical partition, and not in the MBR and it returned "Operating System Not Found".
[19:30] <chocka> rather than 'something else' ? right
[19:30] <Gusteru> kingbeast, have ideea how can I format the hdd external box now ? I'm in Ubuntu Live
[19:31] <kingbeast> hdd external box?
[19:31] <kingbeast> are you trying to install to an external?
[19:31] <kingbeast> Gusteru, ^^
[19:31] <Gusteru> yes kingbeast .. I try to install ubuntu on hdd external ! yes .. why ? :P
[19:32] <Dead-i> I would like my Ubuntu server to use the integrated graphics in my motherboard instead of the dedicated graphics in my Radeon GPU. In my BIOS I have the options of "IGFX", "PEG" and "PCI". Which one do I choose to use my onboard graphics?
[19:32] <lucien> Jordan_U: that's why I adviced chocka to make it primary, if I am wrong about that, then I'm sorry.
[19:32] <Jordan_U> lucien: That's because grub's boot sector always belongs in the MBR, that was your mistake. The portion of grub in /boot/grub/ can still be in a logical partition.
[19:32] <kingbeast> Gusteru, your on your own with that one. I have never done that before
[19:32] <kingbeast> Gusteru, and does that laptop boot from usb?
[19:33] <Jordan_U> chocka: Yes.
[19:34] <lucien> Jordan_U: Why would it be a mistake to have grub installed to a partition and not on the MBR?
[19:35] <chocka> Jordan_U: so I partition 100 GB from windows 8's C drive as free space and choose, 'ubuntu alongside windows 8' while installing Ubuntu. That will take care of all swap, home, etc. and still hibernate, sleep options will be properly configured?
[19:36] <Gusteru> kingbeast, I put the ubuntu on flash-memory ... bot from the flash-mem ... and install in hdd external box
[19:36] <Jordan_U> lucien: For two reasons. First because the BIOS loads the code from the MBR, so if you want it to load GRUB that's where grub's boot sector should be. Second because when installing grub's boot sector to a partition (at least one containing an extN filesystem) there is no safe embedding area available so blocklists pointing to an active filesystem need to be used, and that is unreliable.
[19:37] <kingbeast> Gusteru, when you boot does the external show up in the boot menu?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> chocka: Yes.
[19:37] <Gusteru> with unetbootin-windows-581
[19:37] <chocka> JOrdan_U: if I use first option while installing, I dont even need to partition before trying to install, right?
[19:38] <Dead-i> Hmmmm
[19:38] <Dead-i> IGFX or PCI - which one are the onboard graphcis? :S
[19:38] <lucien> Jordan_U: yet, unreliable or not, if you install grub to a partition it still has to be a primary one.
[19:38] <Jordan_U> chocka: Correct, the Ubuntu installer will do all of the needed resizing and creating of parititons.
[19:38] <Gusteru> kingbeast, I show that there is an external hdd but I can not boot
[19:38] <kingbeast> Gusteru, I'm confused, sorry. Nothing else I can do
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Dead-i: usually the onboard is on the PCI-X bus too
[19:39] <pdvyas> Gusteru, kingbeast I think the easiest way to get a flash drive bootable is to dd the iso to it.
[19:39] <Gusteru> ok kingbeast I will be try to install
[19:39] <Jordan_U> lucien: If you install grub's *boot sector* to a partition (which you shoulnd't do), and install MS style boot code int he MBR, then the partition containing grub's boot sector needs to be primary, yes.
[19:40] <Dead-i> ActionParsnip: So would the onboard be PCI? I have the otpion of IGFX, PEG, PCI and I'm not sure which is onboard :)
[19:40] <chocka> Jordan_U: To clarify myself, I ask it again. If I try to install 'ubuntu alongside windows 8', I can resize/partition the needed space from windows' C-drive from the installer, right? I do not need to do any partitioning in windows before hand.. right?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Dead-i: probaly IGFX for integrated graphics
[19:40] <lucien> Thanks for proper clarifications, Jordan_U.
[19:41] <Jordan_U> chocka: Correct.
[19:41] <Dead-i> Thanks
[19:41] <Jordan_U> lucien: You're welcome.
[19:41] <chocka> thanks
[19:41] <Gusteru> kingbeast,  how can I format the hdd now ? I'm in ubuntu live
[19:42] <Gusteru> pdvyas, How can I format the hdd external box now  ? I'm in Ubuntu Live
[19:43] <watchtower> Hilarious Family guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crPo-3tlbzI
[19:43] <ikonia> watchtower: take it elsewhere please.
[19:43] <Dead-i> Woo, it worked :D
[19:43] <watchtower> Sorry
[19:43] <Dead-i> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[19:43] <theman123> hi  all
[19:43] <theman123> i have a question!
[19:43] <lucien> Hi
[19:43] <lucien> !ask | theman123
[19:43] <theman123> well i heard it is better to use BTRFS with a SSD
[19:44] <theman123> than ext4
[19:44] <pdvyas> Gusteru: you can use gparted, it has a nice GUI. But if you want to install to it, you can format from the installer itself
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> theman123: ext4 can be tweaked to run well in SSD. You can use Ext2 to reduce writes but by and large Ext4 is fine
[19:44] <lucien> theman123: and the question is?
[19:44] <theman123> is it right?!
[19:44] <ferni> theman123: no
[19:44] <theman123> ActionParsnip: but btrfs is better yes
[19:45] <lucien> theman123: I won't comment on which one is better. I'll just say that ext4 is better.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> theman123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75061/should-i-use-btrfs-or-ext4-for-my-ssd
[19:46] <Gusteru> pdvyas, now run ubuntu from flash and I have put in another external USB HDD I wanted to install ubuntu
[19:47] <chocka> Also, if I want to use ifort compiler for my programs and calculations etc. which option would be better? 32 bit or 64 bit?
[19:47] <pdvyas> Gusteru: Yes, boot ubuntu from flash, connect the usb hdd (I assume you want to install here). Select the external drive in the installer
[19:48] <chocka> I wish to install Ubuntu.  I want to use ifort compiler for my programs and calculations etc. which option would be better? 32 bit or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[19:48] <lucien> chocka: whichever suits your processor.
[19:48] <ikonia> chocka: depends on your compile and what you want to do
[19:48] <lite13> hi. i have completely uninstall my desktop and everything i believe. no apps in menu anymore and somehow maintained my internet connection. i installed e17 already
[19:49] <Gusteru> ok pdvyas ... I retry now to install on hdd external drive
[19:49] <ikonia> chocka: if you're building your software you should have a basic idea of what your needs are and how to meet them
[19:49] <slnls> great. so my laptop display stays black after unity once more froze. I did a hardboot, and nothing brings a picture. not even grub shows up. cable to external monitor does not help also. any ideas?
[19:49] <Gusteru> pdvyas, Thank You for help
[19:49] <fearphage> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/9942d27ccba5ec6bbfe6
[19:49] <lite13> i just need to know while i have an internet connection how to make sure that my system will log into e17 without staying on the black screen
[19:49] <pdvyas> Gusteru: You're welcome :)
[19:50] <slnls> unity froze multiple times in the past,  when opening the dash. god i hate unity
[19:50] <eternal_> GSR ftw ;p
[19:50] <lucien> slnls: +1
[19:50] <lite13> me to slnls that is why i removed it all and going with e17
[19:50] <ikonia> really simple - dont like it, don't use it
[19:50] <ikonia> rather than joining a tell to tell us all about you not liking it
[19:50] <slnls> this is why i dont use ubuntu on most machines anymore. going to say byebye to ubuntu
[19:51] <lucien> ikonia: feedback is good.
[19:51] <ikonia> lucien: it's pointless in this channel
[19:51] <slnls> now unity shot my laptop dead
[19:51] <ikonia> slnls: enough
[19:51] <ikonia> slnls: don't like it - don't use it, got a problem lets see if people can help, or log a bug
[19:52] <lucien> ikonia: maybe someone, after hearing slnls's story will post about it on launchpad
[19:52] <ikonia> lucien: no
[19:52] <lhavelund> lucien: It's offtopic for this channel.
[19:53] <ikonia> this isn't a "rant channel" we can try to help, or point you at the right place to report your bug
[19:53] <lite13> to make sure i got it all and install lightdm only. what all login managers are there? i know gdm and lxsession i believe. anyone know more
[19:53] <slnls> kinda hard to file a bug, when screen is dead. so it is a hardware problem. sorry, but me upset. i appreciate hints for a solution.
[19:53] <eternal_> kdm xdm
[19:53] <lucien> maybe he experiences troubles while using unity's and he has a story explaining how much pain he's gone through and how much unity sucks, before asking the actual question.
[19:53] <lucien> see? his screen is dead ikonia.
[19:54] <ikonia> lucien: give it a rest, final time ,this isn't the channel
[19:54] <ikonia> lucien: it's not dead, he's typing on IRC
[19:54] <eternal_> You're bitching about Unity when your hardware is dead and has nothing to do with the other?
[19:54] <eternal_> Wow.
[19:54] <lucien> ikonia: maybe he has some other device.
[19:54] <slnls> ikonia: typing on my desktop. i have problems with my laptop. please read.
[19:54] <ikonia> lucien: so he's able to type/log a bug then or not use it
[19:54] <ikonia> slnls: yes, so your ranting won't help fix it
[19:55] <ikonia> slnls: so either a.) state the issue so people can try to help b.) log a bug c.) don't use unity
[19:55] <patie> why i dont see keyboard language switcher in xfce/ubuntu ?
[19:55] <slnls> ikonia: allready said sorry and waiting for hints here.
[19:55] <ikonia> slnls: I've not seen a problem, just you saying how much you don't like unity, so please explain the problem without all the other padding
[19:55]  * lucien gives ikonia a cup of greentea.
[19:56] <lite13> to make sure i got it all and install lightdm only. what all login managers are there? i know gdm and lxsession i believe. anyone know more
[19:56] <lucien> Thank you.
[19:56] <yalu_> hi. ubuntu 12.10 does not support non-pae systems anymore. this turns out to be a serious problem for LTSP since a lot of thin clients do not have the pae instruction. Would the best solution be to pin the kernel version to a version in 12.4?
[19:57] <ikonia> yalu_: I thought edubuntu was keeping a non-pae package for this sort of thing
[19:57] <ikonia> yalu_: (I don't know, I just remember disucssion)
[19:59] <lite13> to make sure i got it all and install lightdm only. what all login managers are there? i know gdm and lxsession i believe. anyone know more
[19:59] <slnls> ok. 1. opening dash on 12.10 froze the laptop. 2. hard reboot. 3. screen is black. 4. screen stays black with HDMI, VGA to external monitor. stays black with multiple live-disks. does not even show grub or startup message or bios. i would much appreciate this channels help. and once again sorry for the rant.
[19:59] <eternal_> there is kde's, kdm, and the original xdm.
[20:00] <ikonia> slnls: is your hardware actually ok ? do you ever get ANY output ?
[20:00] <eternal_> slnls sounds like a hardware issue if you are not seeing any hardware messages
[20:00] <yalu_> ikonia: sources.list is the same between ubuntu and edubuntu so I got not much hope for it
[20:00] <Dead-i> When attempting to passthrough my AMD Radeon GPU using Xen I get the error that it is already in use. When I plug a DVI into the GPU, I see several startup-related messages. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks
[20:02] <slnls> ikonia: anything I tried until now did not help but show a black screen all time. thanks for your answers
[20:02] <patie> why i dont see keyboard language switcher in xfce/ubuntu ? help please
[20:02] <ikonia> slnls: so not even a bios message or anything ?
[20:03] <slnls> ikonia: sadly: No.
[20:03] <ikonia> slnls: it sounds like your hardware is dead then
[20:03] <slnls> ikonia: just, what i thought. which one might it be? gpu-related?
[20:03] <ikonia> slnls: no idea, take it to a repair shop
[20:04] <lucien> slnls: we can't diagnose your system from the internet, you could try ##hardware, but I'm sure they will tell you the same.
[20:04] <lucien> also ikonia, please read pm (:
[20:05] <pdvyas> slnls: Just curious, what GPU do you have ? Do the fancy dual ones which switch discrete/dedicated ?
[20:05] <pamccabe> can someone tell me how to open a terminal session from ubuntu 12.10?
[20:06] <slnls> well thanks so far. hoped someone could tell me my laptop still lives. *cries* thanks. it is a nvidia 9300m. 4 years old and run very hot all the time.
[20:06] <dufa> pamccabe,  ctrl alt t is default
[20:06] <Tech-1> slnls>  try a live cd, if you still have no graphics, perhaps your lamp is out
[20:06] <slnls> pamccabe: press alt+ctrl+F1
[20:07] <pamccabe> thanks guys
[20:07] <dufa> pamccabe, that too , use alt+ctrl+f7 to get back the gui
[20:07] <slnls> pamccabe: press alt+ctrl+F7 to get back to X11
[20:08] <pamccabe> great info thanks, very new to linux
[20:09] <slnls> pamccabe: you are welcome
[20:09] <dufa> pamccabe, welcome to the community
[20:09] <pamccabe> very informative and friendly, glad to be part of it
[20:12] <Dead-i> Anyone?
[20:12] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[20:13] <craniumslows> Anyone know of any utilities to import itunes playlists ?
[20:13] <Dead-i> [20:00:50] <Dead-i>	 When attempting to passthrough my AMD Radeon GPU using Xen I get the error that it is already in use. When I plug a DVI into the GPU, I see several startup-related messages. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks
[20:13] <CoreyBR> sup guys
[20:14] <Dead-i> hi
[20:14] <CoreyBR> good afternoon
[20:14] <CoreyBR> :)
[20:14] <Bassguy> Howdy
[20:14] <craniumslows> hola
[20:14] <craniumslows> hows it going?
[20:15] <Dead-i> Hmmm, weird, thru my GPU card I'm getting messages like "[5.694076] Initialising USB Mass Storage Driver..."
[20:16] <Dead-i> Probably why XEN says the GPU card is in use :/
[20:16] <ikonia> Dead-i: why do you think that has anything to do with your graphis card ?
[20:16] <craniumslows> google winns thanks anyway
[20:17] <Dead-i> ikonia: I don't. I need to stop Ubuntu Server from using my graphics card in that way so Xen allows me to passthru to it, from what I gather.
[20:17] <ikonia> Dead-i: in what way ?
[20:19] <Dead-i> ikonia: Ubuntu Server is using my graphics card for mssages like "Adding 16719868k swap on /dev/mapper/server-swap_1-" etc, which is probably why Xen can't passthrough to it - when I try booting the VM it says that it couldn't find the PCI device because either it doesn't exist or its in use.
[20:19] <ikonia> Dead-i: why do you think that ?
[20:19] <ikonia> Dead-i: your graphics card is nothing to do with /dev/mapper/server-swap
[20:20] <GunArm> i'm still having some kind of trouble running an executable as a user (due to permissions or something) can someone help me understand how this can happen? http://pastebin.com/fGm5zbAF
[20:20] <Dead-i> ikonia: It doesn't, it's just that atm coming from the DVI slot on my graphics card are messages that appear at boot, like the message saying its adding swap, or recognising usb storage devices, etc
[20:20] <ikonia> GunArm: the commands not in that directory
[20:20] <GunArm> ikonia: ?? didn't you see that I ls'ed the directory and showed that it is indeed there?
[20:21] <ikonia> Dead-i: those storage messages have nothing to do with your graphics card
[20:21] <ikonia> GunArm: look at what it's calling
[20:21] <ikonia> GunArm: something isn't found
[20:21] <Dead-i> ikonia: The messages are coming through to my graphics card though, so surely this makes my graphics card "in-use"?
[20:21] <ikonia> Dead-i: errr yes, you have a monitor plugged into your graphics card /
[20:21] <ikonia> ?
[20:22] <Dead-i> ikonia: yes
[20:22] <ikonia> Dead-i: so you card....is in use, it's driving your monitor
[20:23] <raffaele> qualcuno puo aiutarmi
[20:23] <montanha> Dead-i: everything you see in your screen is because of your graphic card
[20:23] <Dead-i> ikonia: montanha: Xen said the PCI device was in-use even when my monitor wasn't connected :S
[20:23] <Dead-i> I'm so confused. XD
[20:24] <ikonia> Dead-i: even if your monitor isn't actually connected, the console is still spawned to it
[20:24] <pdvyas> GunArm: Can you try doing `sudo su ventrilo -` ; then you'll get a shell and try  `ls -la /usr/bin/ventrilo_srv`
[20:24] <pdvyas> GunArm: Can you try doing `sudo su ventrilo -` ; then you'll get a shell and try  `ls -la /usr/bin/ventrilo_srv`
[20:25] <Dead-i> ikonia: How can I have the console stop spawning to it though?
[20:25] <ikonia> Dead-i: you need to look at what's going on at init
[20:26] <Dead-i> ikonia: How do I do that? :)
[20:26] <ikonia> Dead-i: why are you running xen ?
[20:26] <ikonia> Dead-i: what are you trying to achieve ?
[20:26] <Dead-i> ikonia: Virtual machines where one of them passes through to the graphics card
[20:26] <CrazyZurfer> My pc got stucked, while watching a video, is there a way to close all programs?
[20:27] <CrazyZurfer> Or something like crtl alt supr
[20:27] <slnls> CrazyZurfer: alt+strg+F1, login. then sudo shutdown -h now
[20:27] <ikonia> Dead-i: ok, so at init the console is associated to a device, in this case it's your video card, you need to change that, but be aware, once you do that, all output will be gone
[20:27] <slnls> CrazyZurfer: shutdowns the whole pc with save message to processes
[20:27] <CrazyZurfer> Strg?
[20:27] <slnls> strg=german ctrl.
[20:27] <montanha> Cntl
[20:28] <montanha> Cntl
[20:28] <montanha> sorry
[20:28] <GunArm> pdvyas: http://pastebin.com/DvCawzMy
[20:28] <Muphrid> -h will shutdown
[20:28] <CrazyZurfer> Another way?
[20:28] <slnls> Muphrid: will need "now" or nothing happens
[20:29] <slnls> CrazyZurfer: well, you are typing on it?
[20:29] <Muphrid> CrazyZurfer: you can try with -r (reboot) or kill the gnome-session PID or whatever session youre using
[20:29] <CrazyZurfer> Okay
[20:29] <Dead-i> ikonia: I will still be able to access the console through the onboard graphics on my motherboard though, right?
[20:29] <CrazyZurfer> I'm in the console
[20:30] <CrazyZurfer> Any way to close the progress but not shutdown computer
[20:30] <ikonia> Dead-i: if you bind the console to that device, yes
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> CrazyZurfer: killall -u $USER
[20:30] <pdvyas> GunArm: `head /usr/bin/ventrilo_srv` , maybe something at line#3 in the file is throwing the error
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> CrazyZurfer: will log you off
[20:30] <montel> ubuntu sucks so bad with gnome 3 now :( rip
[20:30] <CrazyZurfer> Thanks, that worked
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> montel: you don't have to use Gnome.....
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> montel: so your statement makes no sense.
[20:31] <Dead-i> ikonia: How do I do this? :)
[20:31] <InfiniteByte> montel: try gnome-session-fallback
[20:31] <ikonia> Dead-i: I'd have to look at this, as it's normally set in the init, but I'm not sure with upstart
[20:31] <slnls> ActionParsnip: well, it is either xubuntu or something else. so not exactly ubuntu. am i right?
[20:31] <montel> ActionParsnip, if i dont use gnome then its really not ubuntu is it. i use xubuntu. i think i'm just going to switch to debian.
[20:32] <CrazyZurfer> I use xubuntu
[20:32] <CrazyZurfer> And i like it
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> slnls montel: they are the same base and kubuntu and xubuntu are equally as supported as ubuntu
[20:32] <pdvyas> GunArm: Sorry, I may be wrong about that. but still fire that, will confirm that we're able to read the file.
[20:32] <montel> okay, the defualt ubuntu sucks*
[20:33] <GunArm> pdvyas: yeah the file seems binary
[20:33] <GunArm> although interesting about that 3 in the error
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> montel: fine, don't use it. Nobody is forcing yoou
[20:33] <InfiniteByte> montel: by default ubuntu uses unity
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> montel: I think a lot in the default ubuntu sucks. I just remove it and install what I prefer. If every user came to the channel stating what they hated, it wouldn't be very productive. Would it?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> InfiniteByte: Unity is a shell for Gnome. Unity doesn't replace Unity
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> Unity doesn't replace gnome
[20:35] <montel> Yeah, thats true its just ive been using ubuntu ever since it first came out.. i miss when they just updated and fixed things in releases not overhauled the damn thing every 6 months
[20:35] <pdvyas> GunArm: that 3 is because, it's the third command in the shell, or, the 3rd line of stdin or something..
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> montel: Lubuntu and Xubuntu desktop functionality is largely unchanged
[20:35] <InfiniteByte> montel: that might be, but unity and gnome 3 are different things
[20:36] <ikonia> GunArm: it's probably linked against a library that isn't present
[20:36] <montel> ActionParsnip, yeah that's why i'm sticking to xubuntu. InfiniteByte: they both suck
[20:37] <CrazyZurfer> Go debian then
[20:37] <GunArm> ikonia: i dont suppose theres any way to figure out what library that would be?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> montel: use what you wish. Again, if evrybody reeled of what they thought sucked, the channel would be ineffective
[20:37] <InfiniteByte> montel: i agree on that, but you don't have to use them
[20:37] <GunArm> ikonia: lots of people use this software and I downloaded the most recent version
[20:37] <ikonia> GunArm: ldd the binary and look at what's missing
[20:38] <GunArm> ikonia, not a dynamic executable
[20:38] <Dead-i> ikonia: Ok thanks
[20:38] <ikonia> GunArm: so, check what it's linked against
[20:40] <montel> CrazyZurfer, i will eventually
[20:41] <abailarri> Hello. Has anyone used ekiga? I get an error in my account and I can not fix it.
[20:42] <xxllxxll> ciao
[20:42] <xxllxxll> !list
[20:42] <dufa> abailarri, what kind of error
[20:45] <abailarri> dufa, In accounts I see this message on my account: Could not register. Error in transport. And I see in the main window that says: Could not register (my account)
[20:46] <GunArm> ikonia: here is me attempting to figure out what it could link to (if I am doing it wrong let me know) http://pastebin.com/s989pg9T  also notice that for my normal user I can run it as sudo but not without
[20:48] <pdvyas> GunArm: can you give the output of `uname -a` ? Are you trying to run a 64bit binary on 32bit system ? x86_64 on i386 ?
[20:50] <pdvyas> ‰
[20:50] <GunArm> i think that is it
[20:50] <ikonia> s incompatible with i386:x86-64 output
[20:50] <ikonia> there is the key
[20:50] <GunArm> Linux mainframe 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:29:15 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:50] <GunArm> hmm so http://www.ventrilo.com/download.php
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> abailarri: can you ping the server?
[20:50] <GunArm> i guess they just dont support 64 bit linux
[20:51] <dufa> abailarri, hmm, I havent used ekiga very extensively and the error message is quite wague, nothing comes to mind from the top of my head, I'll look around
[20:51] <ikonia> they would if there was 32bit compatability libraries on your system
[20:52] <sachael> anyone know of a filebrowser with a built-in terminal that is synced with the folder view? or a way I can hack together something like this?
[20:52] <GunArm> installing ia32-libs
[20:53] <GunArm> terminals are surprisingly hard to write
[20:53] <pamccabe> is ubuntu 12.10 secure? or have a firewall to turn on? cant find anything like windows firewall.
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> GunArm: use TAB ;)
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> pamccabe: yes its secure
[20:54] <sjoerd_> @sachael: maybe something like this http://shuffleos.com/3283/integrate-ubuntu-terminal-in-nautilus-file-browser-with-nautilus-terminal/
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | pamccabe
[20:54] <pamccabe> ill take a look at those links, thanks
[20:55] <pdvyas> sachael: Dolphin does it when you press F4, I think
[20:55] <jintux> hello
[20:55] <sjoerd_> hi
[20:55] <GunArm> ikonia: pdvyas: installing ia32_libs got me past that issue, thanks
[20:55] <jintux> ubuntu is a very nice linux system
[20:56] <jintux> just needed to tell anyone!
[20:56] <sjoerd_> haha...
[20:56] <Dead-i> Does anyone know how to have the startup init scripts' output go to a different display rather than my dedicated graphics card?
[20:57] <ikonia> Dead-i: some bios's let you change the default video card
[20:57] <Dead-i> ikonia: I've already changed the primary adapter. It worked for the actual command line itself, but it doesn't appear to have affected the init scripts
[20:58] <ikonia> Dead-i: the actual command line ?
[20:58] <ikonia> Dead-i: that doesn't make any sense what you are saying
[20:59] <pdvyas> ikonia, Dead-i means the kernel messages (when you boot), I guess
[20:59] <ikonia> pdvyas: lets let him explain what he means
[20:59] <SaFi2266> hi folks
[20:59] <studious> hey buddy
[21:00] <Dead-i> ikonia: The command line shell was originally going to the graphics card too. When I changed the Primary Display Adapter in the BIOS, the command line went to the onboard graphics instead (which is what I wanted). However, the startup init scripts output are still going to the graphics card rather than the onboard graphics
[21:00] <ikonia> Dead-i: again, I'm sorry that doesn't make any sense
[21:00] <sgt-hagger> Hey guys when I installed mint it messed up my windows install, it now says invalid EFI file path when I try to boot into windows. I have launched boot-repair and it says to create a 1MB partition of unformatted file system and flag it as bios_grub
[21:01] <sgt-hagger> I have done this now and it still says to do it
[21:01] <ikonia> sgt-hagger: please take it to mint support
[21:01] <ikonia> !mint | sgt-hagger
[21:01] <SaFi2266> my ubuntu is too slow 12.04 lts desktop
[21:01] <sjoerd_> SaFi2266: Maybe you need to upgrade your pc
[21:02] <sgt-hagger> ikonia: Yeah but this happened to me when I installed Ubuntu also, so I think it can be fixed the same way.
[21:02] <Dead-i> Ummmmmm
[21:02] <ikonia> sgt-hagger: please take it to mint support
[21:03] <SaFi2266> my laptop is dell inspiron 5110 with corei3 and 4gb ram
[21:03] <sgt-hagger> Okay, but they've been ignoring me up to now.
[21:03] <ikonia> sgt-hagger: thanks
[21:03] <Dead-i> ikonia: BEFORE I changed the "Primary Display Adapter" setting in the BIOS, the Ubuntu Server command line shell (like the login, pass, etc) was appearing on the graphics card. The init scripts' output would flash on the graphics card screen first though.
[21:04] <sjoerd_> SaFi2266: You should do more diagnosis first :) Run top in a Terminal to see if anything is hogging CPU time. You can also see there how much swap is in use; if you're heavily swapping your system will crawl. iostat -k 5 or similar (from the sysstat package) will show you if your disks are overloaded. That should do for starters
[21:04] <Dead-i> ikonia: AFTER I changed the Primary Display Adapter, the Ubuntu Server command line shell was appearing on the on-board graphics. The init scripts' output just stayed on the graphics card screen though
[21:04] <JRThump> Is there any place to get good info about what CPUs/hardward platforms that are well supported by Ubuntu. I am specifically thinking about these ultra light laptops. Would like to carry one such with me on motorcycle trips...
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> SaFi2266: what video chip?
[21:05] <sjoerd_> JRThump: Google??
[21:05] <k1l> !hcl | JRThump
[21:05] <DJones> !hcl | JRThump
[21:05] <SaFi2266> Thnx Dead-i
[21:06] <Dead-i> Wha
[21:06] <Dead-i> SaFi2266: I think you mean sjoerd_ :P :)
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> SaFi2266: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143791/notebook-dell-inspiron-n5110-overheating-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[21:07] <JRThump> ok thx guys
[21:07] <Mr_VOA2> is anyone here expert with fb?
[21:08] <yarre> Is Intels "Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework" supported under Linux?
[21:08] <lonewulf85> Could anyone explain why when I try to install Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 with the following partition setup one 30Gb / for my root, one 284Gb /home and one 6Gb swap it somehow fails to install GRUB?
[21:09] <andy000> hi
[21:09] <ikonia> lonewulf85: how many hard disks do you have ?
[21:09] <Mr_VOA2> anyone expert with facebook here?
[21:09] <lonewulf85> ikonia: I have one 320 Gb drive.
[21:10] <ikonia> Mr_VOA2: no-one, just ubuntu here
[21:10] <k1l> Mr_VOA2: that is a ubuntu support, not a facebook support here
[21:10] <ikonia> lonewulf85: where are you telling it to install grub to ?
[21:10] <lonewulf85> ikonia: I am using a usb to install and I always tell it to install to /dev/sda
[21:10] <antreas29patra> hi
[21:10] <k1l> Mr_VOA2: so if that is a ubuntu support issue, go ahead and ask your question.
[21:11] <ikonia> lonewulf85: ok, so /dev/sda is probably being assigned to the USB disk
[21:11] <arooni-mobile> how can i delete all files in a given directory with size = 0 ?
[21:11] <Mr_VOA2> hello how is everyone doing?
[21:11] <Mr_VOA2> Mery Christmas
[21:11] <lonewulf85> ikonia: My USB comes up as /dev/sdb
[21:11] <Mr_VOA2> is anyone expert on facebook use here?
[21:11] <DJones> Mr_VOA2: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[21:11] <CoreyBR> hi guys
[21:11] <CoreyBR> :)
[21:11] <Mr_VOA2> sorry wrong chan
[21:11] <CoreyBR> anyone need help?
[21:12] <ikonia> lonewulf85: that's interesting, I'm a little surprised by that, where are you seeing/checking that
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> CoreyBR: ask and see
[21:13] <lonewulf85> ikonia: This time for the second install attempt today I saw that my installer said "Grub force floppy false forced "/dev/sda" grub2 install successfully" Maybe it worked this time.
[21:13] <slixz85> does anyone know of an ubuntu minimal install that contains wifi drivers and a gui?
[21:14] <ikonia> slixz85: no.....as it wouldn't be a mininal install then
[21:14] <ikonia> it would be ubuntu desktop....
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: the mini install is text only, you could customize the ISO and add the drivers you need
[21:14] <JRThump> Just one thing about grub boot problems. I had a problem when I had a new SSD and it failed to boot GRUB but windows did start ok from same disk. Thought it was due to Asus EFI BIOS. I reinstalled about 20 times and i tried MSDOS partition table, GPT partition table, grub flag, and different EFI partitioning schemes, but in the end the problem was silly! It was the SATA cable that was...
[21:14] <JRThump> ...probably not sitting tight enough and it was strange because it worked if I installed Windows(!) In the end i just switched to a new cable (one of those that "locks" and voila it works like a charm).
[21:15] <slixz85> ikonia, ActionParsnip ok. i just am in a spot where i can only use wifi. so that would be an issue. is their anything lighter even than bodhi any1 knows of. i know it sounds crazy but my pc is old
[21:15] <slixz85> bodhi runs ok. but i want even smaller iso
[21:15] <JRThump> So...make sure to check sata cable :-)
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: lubuntu
[21:15] <ikonia> slixz85: how old ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: tinycore isn't ubuntu but is very small
[21:15] <slixz85> 2004 or so
[21:15] <slixz85> i know... i just am so used to ubuntu/debian tht is what i need
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: use minimal over a wired connection and install fluxbox, slim and wicd and you will have a very light OS
[21:16] <slixz85> wicd is lighter than nm-applet?
[21:17] <slixz85> i guess i will have to find a way to hook to up to ethernet. i am just sharingf neighbords wifi
[21:17] <andy000> I have a source.tar.gz file without .dsc file. Can I compile the file with pbuilder?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: what wifi chip are you using?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> andy000: is there no PPA for the app?
[21:18] <slixz85> Belkin Components F7D1101 Basic Wireless USB Adapter v1000 [Realtek RTL8188SU]
[21:18] <slixz85>  which uses the r8712u driver
[21:18] <andy000> no
[21:18] <lonewulf85> I am used to gnome I have tried KDE/XFCE and enlightenment, Could anyone tell me whether there has been major improvements with KDE since Ubuntu 10.04
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> slixz85: if you customise the ISO, you can add the driver and it will be used in the minimal installer
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: I'd say so
[21:19] <slixz85> ActionParsnip, is it like one file i need since i know the driver or how would i find it to include?
[21:19] <nardev> Could you suggest me some simple application for reading from GPS module? I just need simple data, like position coordinates, speed, altitude etc. Modules are 1. SieraGobi 3000 and Some other device connected via BT.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: you could even drop the DE and just use the window manager on its own :)
[21:19] <lonewulf85> ActionParsnip: Could you give any examples?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: http://kde.org/   shows the changes and in order
[21:20] <andy000> ActionParsnip there's a git repo
[21:21] <lonewulf85> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:22] <andy000> ActionParsnip http://people.freedesktop.org/~dbn/evince-browser-plugin/
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> andy000: I've not used git, sorry
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> !git
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> may help
[21:23] <ichigo-roku> Hi
[21:24] <dr_willis> hello
[21:24] <lucien> I just burned a data disc with brasero, everything went fine, except when I mount it, it's a blank dvd :\
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> lucien: tried it in a different system?
[21:25] <Argafal> Hi, I'm looking for a Ubuntu 12.10 installer to fit on a CD-R.
[21:25] <lucien> ActionParsnip: no..
[21:25] <ichigo-roku> I wanted to configure dual screen on my nvidia but unity stops to start so I deleted the dual screen mode on my xorg but unity still won't start
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> lucien: try other burning apps too, like xfburn :)
[21:25] <lucien> it looks like data is written to it
[21:25] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  hmm. twinview works fine here on my nvidia systems.
[21:25] <freshstart> does anybody know a program that assigns a command in mouse buttons?
[21:25] <DJones> Argafal: Its no longer designed to fit on a cd, you could try the minimal install which downloads most of the software from the internet during installation
[21:25] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  what release of ubuntu?
[21:26] <ichigo-roku> 12.10
[21:26] <lucien> ActionParsnip: going to try it on a windows machine, thanks
[21:26] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  i even hot plug in my 2nd monitor and it enables twinview automatically
[21:27] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  does unity start for the guest user? try adding a new user. see if it works for them
[21:27] <Argafal> DJones: thanks.
[21:27] <dufa> Argafal, the minimal release can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[21:27] <ichigo-roku> Okay
[21:27] <Argafal> dufa: yes, that should work.
[21:27] <Dead-i> still haven't found anything online about having init scripts go to a different display - google is not my friend today :(
[21:28] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: Since I didn't see your original question, would you mind repeating it?
[21:28] <ichigo-roku> dr_willis, it didn't work with other users
[21:29] <lonewulf85> ikonia: Moment of truth hopefully I do not get a grub error.
[21:29] <ichigo-roku> Weird because on my arch I had no problem
[21:30] <ichigo-roku> The command "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" tells me that I don't have composite extension
[21:30] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  how about the guest user. or a newly made user.
[21:30] <lucien> I made a DVD with brasero, everything went fine, except it's blank
[21:30] <lucien> tried it on a windows machine
[21:30] <lonewulf85> ikonia: Yes success no errors this time thank for the brainstorming. Live long and prosper.
[21:30] <ichigo-roku> dr_willis, it didn't work with other users
[21:31] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: if it doesn't work, then everything didn't go fine... When burning, did you make sure to close the session on the disc?
[21:31] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: Sure - in my BIOS I set the "Primary Display Adapter" so it would use my Onboard graphics instead of my Dedicated Radeon graphics. Although the Ubuntu server command line is using my onboard graphics, various init.d related messages are appearing on the graphics card on startup. Is there any way to stop these messages from appearing?
[21:31] <riderplus> on Gnome 3.7.3 guake has no transparency (ubuntu 12.10) even though it's set to be transparent (70%)
[21:31] <freshstart> does anybody know a program that assigns a command in mouse buttons?
[21:32] <riderplus> also the notification conflict has not been solved
[21:32] <lucien> pragmaticenigma: I'm pretty sure it did closed the disc.
[21:32] <riderplus> I have to disable pop up notification in guake otherwise it doesn't start
[21:32] <riderplus> at startup I mean
[21:32] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Okay, just a thought.
[21:33] <lucien> I only have 1 disc left and I really need to backup my data, what do I do?
[21:33] <Ray2> lucien..did you md5sum the iso
[21:33] <riderplus> ...and it crashes when I try to change the keyboard layout
[21:33] <riderplus> cool
[21:33] <lucien> Ray2: It wasn't an iso..
[21:33] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: There really is no harm in those messages. What is likely happening is the kernel is just saying I see some hardware, but I can't use it.  The messages really can't be turned off unless you want to re-combile your own kernel
[21:33] <joey8> lucien→ cloud / mem stick ?
[21:33] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: *compile
[21:34] <lucien> joey8: I'd preffer to have it on a disc though.. bad experiences with cloud inb4.
[21:34] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: Hmm, Xen is saying that I can't passthrough to the graphics card because its "in-use", any idea how I could fix this? I had a feeling the messages were to do with it. The messages are things like adding swap, registering usb storage, etc
[21:35] <joey8> if you aint got a disk then you aint gonna backup... sorry ヅ
[21:35] <lucien> joey: I only have one left ;-;
[21:35] <lucien> joey8*
[21:36] <joey8> lucien→ i dunno how you gonna do it then
[21:36] <joey8> lucien→ just backup as much as you can and cross your fingres
[21:36] <fearphage> Jordan_U: https://gist.github.com/9942d27ccba5ec6bbfe6 3.5.0-21-generic
[21:36] <lucien> ... joey8: I'm basically just trying to write a data disc..
[21:37] <lucien> and it didn't work. forget about the backup.. I need to write a disc.. joey8
[21:37] <joey8> lucien→ have you gone thru the zip/tar ideas?
[21:37] <lucien> joey8: what do you mean?
[21:38] <d4rkh4nd> Does anyone know the reasone for kdialog's --password if you cant call it later in the script ?
[21:38] <joey8> lucien→ compress your files via tar or zip or similar
[21:38] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: Perhaps Xen is trying to utilize the Radeon graphics, but because of the way you have configured BIOS, the BIOS is stopping the commands from reaching the Radeon.  I'm only guessing here, but I think most setups like yours send all graphics card commands to one chip.  When high end graphics are needed, the onboard graphics opens the gate and lets the commands "pass through" to the other graphics chip
[21:38] <lucien> joey8: there is no other way? ;-;
[21:39] <lucien> guess I'm going to have to try that then ;-; thanks joey8
[21:39] <ichigo-roku> dr_willis, problem solved, I don't know why but I had this line : Option "Composite" "Disable" instead of Option "Composite" "Enable"
[21:39] <joey8> lucien→ ok your welcome matey
[21:39] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: Thanks :)
[21:40] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: What settings in the BIOS could I change to fix this?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> lucien: try another app. I have never had success with Brasero
[21:40] <lucien> ActionParsnip: what did you have success with?
[21:40] <dr_willis> ichigo-roku:  my twinview seems to work even without an xorg.conf file at all these days. ;)
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> lucien: xfburn is pretty solid imho
[21:41] <lucien> ActionParsnip: I'm going to try, thanks.
[21:41] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: There really arn't any unless you intened to use the Radeon card.  They are just warning messages, not errors.  My computer spits out 30 warnings about a USB port not working every few seconds. It does not affect the performance or connectivitiy of my USB devices.  Just annoying when your trying to read through logs.  Thats why learning to use grep is very handing when reading through your log files
[21:42] <lucien> ActionParsnip: should I still try to tar it tough?
[21:42] <dr_willis> pragmaticenigma:  i had a flakey webcam on a laptop - caused the kernel to flood the logs/dmesg - a setting at the top of /etc/sysctl.conf quited it down.
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> dr_willis: for me it's just a bad USB port on a 5 port USB2.0 PCI card.  I don't use it anymore since all my systems now have on board USB 2.0
[21:43] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: I intend on using the Radeon card for passingthrough a virtual machine's screen but Xen claims its in-use. I'm not sure how to make it so its not "in-use".
[21:43] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: Ah, you can't do that
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> lucien: why not, you can burn any file you like
[21:44] <lucien> ActionParsnip: the discs that brasero failed at burning.. were they still usable?
[21:44] <lucien> ok thanks ActionParsnip.
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> lucien: are the rewritables?
[21:44] <lucien> it says DVD-R not DVD-RW so I guess not.
[21:44] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: If you put the disc back in and try to burn to it, will brasero burn?
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Rather, try to write to it again?
[21:45] <lucien> pragmaticenigma, well it says it's blank.
[21:45] <lucien> pragmaticenigma, yet it looks like it's written
[21:45] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Right, but will brasero allow you to try and burn to it again?
[21:46] <lucien> pragmaticenigma: let me try
[21:48] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: Is this on a laptop or full desktop?
[21:48] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: desktop
[21:49] <lucien> pragmaticenigma: brasero still allows me to burn it
[21:49] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: Do you have a monitor hooked up to both graphics cards?
[21:49] <lucien> pragmaticenigma: and I didn't check leave the disc open at first.
[21:50] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: I keep switching the cable between both the dedi graphics card and the onboard
[21:51] <fearphage> bekks: are you still around?
[21:51] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Well It appears that brasero didn't burn so at least you don't have a coaster.  I personally gave up on brasero a long time ago and switched to xfburn. I found it easier to use and less problematic.
[21:52] <lucien> pragmaticenigma: thanks, but if it doesn't work, why is it still rolled with the latest ubuntu?
[21:52] <hangdeadman> Can I repartiotion free space from my ubuntu partition and then install wondows along side the pre existing ubuntu?
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: switching the cable is not a good idea. You can accidentally burn out your graphics chips.  And it's possible that each time you go back and forth, X is automatically switching the primary display.
[21:53] <milamber> hangdeadman: yes
[21:53] <hangdeadman> milamber: how?
[21:53] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Because they opted for a burning program that works for most people.
[21:54] <milamber> hangdeadman: step 1, make backups, step 2 resize partition using a livecd/usb with gparted, step 3, install windows, step 4 - fix grub
[21:54] <dr_willis> dont skip step 1
[21:55] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: Both programs are just wrappers around the actual programs that are used for burning.  They just may implement the burning process differently which makes the difference.
[21:55] <lucien> ok thanks pragmaticenigma
[21:55] <hangdeadman> what is a good way to backup ubuntu? And How do I fix grub?
[21:55] <milamber> !backup
[21:55] <milamber> !grub
[21:57] <joey8> hangdeadman→ lucky backup is really good. simple, clean and does a really good job using rsync
[21:57] <CoreyBR> i migrated from windows to ubuntu linux and its way better lol
[21:57] <CoreyBR> i've never seen my notebook this fast
[21:57] <CoreyBR> LOL
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> CoreyBR: it  can be faster with a lighter DE, but stick with what you have for now :)
[21:58] <guntbert> CoreyBR: glad that you are happy :) - but this channel is for support - Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:58] <maurys> ciao a tutti
[21:59] <CoreyBR> no but if anyone need help i'm here for it, i'm not a pro but i know a few things, i'll be glad to help the community
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> CoreyBR: always appreciated :)
[21:59] <CoreyBR> is there any channel to chat?
[21:59] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: Yeah I"m going to be keeping it in the dedi graphics card now, if I can get this working
[21:59] <CoreyBR> about ubuntu, SOs and stuff
[22:00] <serp_> significant others?
[22:00] <lucien> should I use write mode TAO or SAO?
[22:00] <guntbert> CoreyBR: #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat and #ubuntu-discuss for more serious discussions
[22:01] <zenlike> Anyone willing to help an X newbie with information about persisting programs between X sessions?
[22:01] <serp_> is it possible, zenlike ?
[22:02] <bmercer> how do I disable the built in keyboard shortcuts like mod4+M and mod4+e?
[22:02] <dr_willis> zenlike:  clarify what you want to do exactly.
[22:02] <dr_willis> bmercer:  if its a compiz shortcut. you may need to use the ccsm tool to edit the plugin settings thats using the keys.
[22:03] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[22:03] <zenlike> I use XMonad with Xubuntu.  I'd like to have it so that when I log into an XMonad session, desktop 1 is a web browser and terminal, desktop 2 is emacs, and desktop 3 is irc client
[22:03] <zenlike> I am not sure if it is possible, so just throwing it out there to the hive mind :)
[22:03] <dr_willis> zenlike:  i belive xmondads startup stuff has that sort of option/features. but you would have to check the xmonad docs.
[22:04] <lucien> welp xfburn won't do anything to the disc ;-;
[22:04] <dr_willis> thats just auto-starting apps... Not a'persistant' program btween x sessions
[22:04] <dr_willis> zenlike:  its possible xmonad reads the  ~/.config/autostart/ files also.. but im not sure about that
[22:05] <zenlike> dr_willis:  Yeah I think I need a .xsession file (?).  Would it even be possible to persist programs like that (ala Virtual Box's saved state, but on my native Linux)?
[22:06] <dr_willis> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions#Startup_programs
[22:06] <lucien> what can I do? :(
[22:06] <thufir_> if a DVD is 4.3GB, and I divide that by ten, for ten slices of backup with DAR, how many MB per slice?  Ten slices of 430MB?  Or is some base 2 math involved?
[22:06] <dr_willis> zenlike:  if you want X apps to stay running in the background, you woul dhave to do some work with VNC. is the only way i know of.
[22:06] <zenlike> dr_willis:  you rock thanks
[22:07] <bmercer> dr_willis: I looked at this, is it possible it's a dash thing?
[22:08] <dr_willis> bmercer:  its possible - i dont even know what those hotkeys do,.
[22:08] <dr_willis> not sure what mod4 is. ;)
[22:08] <bmercer> the windows key ;)
[22:08] <bmercer> when I do that it tries to search my music collection
[22:08] <dr_willis> Normally thats called the 'super key' :)
[22:09] <bmercer> so it is a compiz thing then?
[22:09] <dr_willis> super-e does nothing here,
[22:09] <dr_willis> super-m does go to the dash to the music search field
[22:10] <bmercer> yeah, I'm trying to map that to toggle maximize vertical because I have my memory management mapped that way already ;)
[22:10] <dr_willis> press and hold the super key. and it shows the shortcuts list... super-m -> the music lens
[22:11] <dr_willis> i dont see anything for Super-E
[22:11] <bmercer> I already mapped that one
[22:11] <bmercer> and I do see that super-m is mapped to dash
[22:11] <dr_willis> ive never noticed or tried to remap the dash shortcuts
[22:12] <blami> bmercer: it should be compiz thing
[22:12] <bmercer> yeah, there are system key mappings, and I can do those
[22:12] <bmercer> blami: ok, I'll keep looking
[22:12] <blami> bmercer: you will need advanced settings for compiz
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> super+w is groovy
[22:12] <bmercer> ccsm
[22:12] <Salmon> Hello, there seems to be a bug in glib 2.32 which I'm trying to avoid by downgrading to 2.31 but I don't know how, since apt and synaptic only show a 2.32 version. Does anyone know how I can accomplish this?
[22:12] <blami> bmercer: exactly
[22:13] <blami> bmercer: but I have found that some mappings cannot be overriden
[22:13] <bmercer> blami: craziness
[22:14] <dr_willis> Not supriseing really.
[22:15] <bmercer> why is that?
[22:15]  * dr_willis notices Super-TAB selects the left side panel stuff.....  learned somthing
[22:15] <sheerun> Is there any tutorial / wiki how to create safe unix environment for tools like http://tryruby.org/ ?
[22:15] <dr_willis> They basically decided to grab theuse of the Super Key for Unity management.
[22:15] <dr_willis> theres dozens of other things that are hard coded into unity as well that ive seen over the  last few releases
[22:16] <alcaprawn> why am i getting this when i try to run my mpd Daemon?
[22:16] <alcaprawn> ** (mpd:17321): CRITICAL **: option parsing failed: Unknown option --create
[22:16] <alcaprawn> the command im running is mpd --create-db to make the music libary.
[22:16] <alcaprawn> all folders and permissions seem to be right?
[22:16] <alcaprawn> any mpd expert care to help its driving me insane!
[22:16] <poz> hello, when i type su in a terminal and my password, it says authentication failure. anyone might know whyl?
[22:17] <dr_willis> alcaprawn:  seems to me its saying thats not a proper option
[22:17] <dr_willis> poz:  who are you su'ing to?
[22:17] <alcaprawn> you typed the wrong password poz.
[22:17] <alcaprawn> its in the man pages dr_willis
[22:17] <poz> i am trying to get into root
[22:17] <dr_willis> cli-command-becomes-verb.. ;)
[22:17] <bekks> !root | poz
[22:17] <dr_willis> poz:  you dont use su to get to root.. use sudo
[22:17] <poz> but i only set one password and i did not type it in wrong
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> poz: run:    sudo -i
[22:18] <alcaprawn> or sudo -s?
[22:18] <blami> dr_willis: yeah some things are hardcoded. I think they want unity almost unconfigurable which is good on one side for giving support but on the other bad in these cases
[22:18] <dr_willis> alcaprawn:  thats how im reading the error message.    'Unknown option --create' it seems its NOT getting the rest of the option
[22:18] <poz> what does su do then?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> poz: its to (s)witch (u)ser
[22:18] <dr_willis> poz:  switfch to other users if you really needed to.
[22:18] <poz> oh i see
[22:18] <dr_willis> you dont su to root in ubuntu. you use sudo
[22:18] <poz> thank you
[22:19] <artichoku> the only time i use su is once after a fresh install: su passwd
[22:19] <poz> i see
[22:19] <artichoku> and that's it
[22:19] <poz> what is the do for?
[22:19] <blami> artichoku: same here
[22:19] <dr_willis> and setting root password is not needed. ;)
[22:19] <dr_willis> super-user-do
[22:19] <blami> poz: to make sudo instead of su? :D
[22:19] <dr_willis> ;P
[22:19] <poz> haha thanks blami
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> poz: users in the sudo group can use sudo to run commands when they need root access.
[22:20] <poz> i have also wondered what the apt stands for in apt-get
[22:20] <blami> I wonder what's the future of unity with all this touch craziness
[22:20] <Muphrid> advanced packaging tool
[22:20] <dr_willis> Awsome Packageing Tool. ;P
[22:20] <bekks> another...:P
[22:20] <poz> lol i am so confused, is it awesome or advanced. or what ever I want it to be?
[22:21] <poz> :P
[22:21] <dr_willis> nah, Apt has to stand for 'APT Packageing Tool'  ;)
[22:21] <bekks> acronymed packaging tool :P
[22:21] <blami> afaik A is for APT
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> poz: why does it matter?
[22:21] <poz> no
[22:22] <Muphrid> actually Another packaging tool
[22:22] <blami> as it was created in those days when having recursive acronyme was cool
[22:22] <poz> lol
[22:22] <poz> are those days over?
[22:22] <poz> i hope not
[22:22] <dr_willis> the good old days.
[22:22] <blami> poz: yes
[22:22] <dufa> like php
[22:22] <poz> noooo
[22:22] <dr_willis> Now everything has to have cutsy names ;) or vague common names...
[22:23] <poz> how did that happen?
[22:23]  * dr_willis still wants to know when a Directory became a 'Folder'
[22:23] <pragmaticenigma> lucien: So it still doesn't appear to be burning anything?
[22:23] <blami> they transformed to days of 'yet another' things and then to '-ng' thing days
[22:23] <b14d3> dr_willis: Because of the picture that has commonly been associated with it
[22:24] <Acoustyk> Is this the right channel for support?
[22:24] <dr_willis> Acoustyk:  yes. Ask away
[22:24] <blami> dr_willis: it was introduced by m$ afaik
[22:24] <dr_willis> b14d3:  grandkids  dont even know what that icon is. ;) they dident know what a manilla-folder even was..
[22:24] <b14d3> dr_willis: Methinks there is a deeper problem there lol
[22:24] <dr_willis> To them a folder is a '3 ring binder' ;)
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: interesting stuff http://superuser.com/questions/169457/directory-vs-folder
[22:25] <dr_willis> ;)
[22:25] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: I don't believe there is anyway to actually give a virtual machine access to the bare metal (access to the graphics card) ... Most of the time you would use a viewer to "view" the virtualized machine (such as VNC or RDP)
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: could just call them files ;)
[22:25] <blami> dufa: doesn't php stand for some really indian weirdo phrase like 'personal home page'?
[22:25] <dr_willis> everything is a file! ;)
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: exactly
[22:26] <dr_willis> lets start taking terms from MMORPGS. ;P
[22:26] <dr_willis> Or biological terms..
[22:26] <blami> ActionParsnip: unixbeard decloaks?
[22:26] <blami> :)
[22:26] <pragmaticenigma> Dead-i: For instance I run a virtualized X session on VNC so that I can view a remote desktop session on my server which doubles as a media player
[22:26] <poz> here i thought it was all 1's and 0's
[22:26] <freshstart> do i have to install a gpu driver in wine?
[22:26] <freshstart> should*
[22:27] <dufa> blami: I think php is for php hypertext processor
[22:27] <Acoustyk> I have a Broadcom BCM4321 Wireless card that isn't working
[22:27] <blami> dufa: aha that's so 1998 :D
[22:28] <pragmaticenigma> dufu: blami : PHP = Pre Hypertext Processor
[22:28] <Acoustyk> So far as I can tell I have all the correct wl drivers installed
[22:28] <dufa> : ) i'll be leaving, have good day
[22:29] <Acoustyk> Any idea?
[22:29] <artichoku> Acoustyk
[22:29] <artichoku> can you please elaborate
[22:30] <sbe> hi
[22:31] <Khaos> Hey all, my irc for backtrack is not working as it should, but regardless, does anyone know if, when installing Backtrack in Vbox, you set the version of Linux as other linux, or do you set it as a specific type of linux?
[22:31] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Basically I'm fixing my friends computer which had Ubuntu installed on it. The card worked then. I've recently installed lubuntu and the BCM4321 Broadcom wireless card isn
[22:31] <Acoustyk> t working by default
[22:31] <sbe> i have overwriten my /usr/bin/env file how can i restore this?
[22:31] <DJones> !backtrack | Khaos
[22:32] <sbe> when opening a terminal i see this message "/usr/bin/env: No such file or directory -- bash (LoadError"
[22:32] <Khaos> Djones: I know that, thank you. read; first line of what i said..
[22:32] <blami> Khaos: it does not matter
[22:32] <Acoustyk> I've googled for driver solutions but the terminal says that the drivers are already installed and I switched over in the software sources GUI
[22:32] <Khaos> blami: thank you
[22:32] <artichoku> Acoustyk: go to "Additional Hardware Drivers"
[22:32] <artichoku> and look for STA or B43
[22:33] <Acoustyk> ...loading
[22:33] <artichoku> alternatively, you can go to synaptic package manager and install b43-fwcutter and firmware-fwcutter-installer
[22:34] <Acoustyk> artichoku: I only see "Using Broadcom ...." and "Do not use the device" as options
[22:34] <sbe> any help would be mostly appreciated
[22:34] <blami> sbe: for further reference to lookup which package the file belongs to you can use dpkg -S /usr/bin/env
[22:34] <jaccarmac> hey i have a pretty serious problem with a macbook air. can anyone help me out?
[22:34] <Acoustyk> artichoku: It's an STA wireless driver
[22:34] <blami> sbe: and then reinstall that package (which is coreutils in this case I believe)
[22:35] <artichoku> and the STA driverdoesn't work at all?
[22:35] <artichoku> or you're trying to use monitor mode
[22:35] <artichoku> ?
[22:35] <poz> anyone know how to download SWScanner?
[22:35] <blami> sbe: to reinstall the package you can use 'apt-get install --reinstall <package_name>'
[22:35] <Acoustyk> artichoku: the STA isn't working even though I've selected it. I'm not sure what you mean by monitor mode.
[22:36] <sbe> great thanks "blami"
[22:36] <artichoku> ok, open synaptic package manager
[22:36] <bawig1> hello
[22:36] <jaccarmac> hello? i need help with a macbook
[22:36] <bekks> poz: What is it?
[22:36] <bawig1> blah
[22:36] <sbe> blami: worked, thanks very much
[22:36] <poz> http://www.swscanner.org/
[22:37] <poz> it does not seem to work
[22:37] <DJones> jaccarmac: You'll need to explain the problem before anybody can offer advice
[22:37] <jaccarmac> i'm getting a low-graphics error, i don't have a network connection, and i can't find out how to get into grub to get recovery mode
[22:37] <jaccarmac> i just updated the kernel and the restart did this
[22:38] <blami> jaccarmac: what model is it?
[22:38] <jaccarmac> the latest 11-inch
[22:38] <bawig1> I'm having problems with my ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS netbook. I'm using gnome shell and the network connections keep disappearing from the top of the screen
[22:38] <Acoustyk> artichoku: may have to install it. Just a moment.
[22:38] <poz> never mind, i think i got it
[22:38] <jaccarmac> Unity has been replaced with Cinnamon, and OSX has been removed
[22:38] <Acoustyk> artichoku: open now
[22:38] <artichoku> Acoustyk: once you have synaptic package manager open, do a search for bcmwl-kernel-source and mark for removal, then find b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer and mark for installation
[22:39] <jaccarmac> blami: i can get to a tty, but no luck with any graphics so far
[22:39] <blami> jaccarmac: retina?
[22:39] <blami> jaccarmac: those latest are not supported very well I think
[22:39] <jaccarmac> macbook air, sorru
[22:39] <jaccarmac> *sorry
[22:40] <jaccarmac> so not retina
[22:41] <blami> jaccarmac: my friend runs gentoo on 2012 mbp and he needs very latest kernel which needs to be compiled as it is not shipped in ubuntu repositories
[22:41] <jaccarmac> blami: it's an air, not a pro. mid 2011
[22:41] <artichoku> Acoustyk: after that's all done, you need to check and make sure the b43 driver isn't on your blacklist. to do so, in terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and make sure you don't see anything that says B43 or B43xx. if you find that in your blacklist, just add a # to the front of that line, then save your blacklist file and and reboot
[22:41] <blami> jaccarmac: he was not able to make trackpad, wifi and thunderbolt work
[22:42] <blami> jaccarmac: not sure what's the situation with air
[22:42] <jaccarmac> blami: mine was working perfectly until about 10 minutes ago when the kernel updated
[22:42] <jaccarmac> blami: it's booting into low-graphics, but can't do it, I have Cinnamon and no Unity
[22:43] <blami> jaccarmac: a lot changed in i915 driver
[22:43] <blami> jaccarmac: try to reboot it with 'nointremap i915.i915_enable_rc6=1' parameters
[22:43] <blami> that usually helps on macs
[22:43] <blami> jaccarmac: which version of kernel, 3.5?
[22:43] <jaccarmac> blami: i can't get into grub. tried turning off the "hidden" options, but no luck
[22:43] <jaccarmac> blami: 3.5.1-21
[22:44] <jaccarmac> blami: 3.5.0-21
[22:44] <jaccarmac> blami: the second one is the real one, why i typed the first i don't know
[22:45] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Working on it...
[22:45] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Synaptic is failing...
[22:45] <artichoku> failing?
[22:46] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Not connecting to the server for whatever reason
[22:46] <blami> jaccarmac: i don't know how to get into bootloader on mac
[22:46] <artichoku> ok then use terminal and do sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:46] <jaccarmac> blami: all i have to do (i think) is get unity-greeter back. how can i connect to a network from tty
[22:46] <artichoku> then do sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[22:47] <blami> jaccarmac: it should be up already, network manager handles that
[22:47] <jaccarmac> well, i only have tty, and the network is wep
[22:47] <blami> jaccarmac: ah I forgot. That overpriced aluminium thingie does not have ethernet, right?
[22:48] <blami> jaccarmac: wpa_supplicant then
[22:48] <jaccarmac> just run that
[22:48] <Acoustyk> artichoku: It's installing...
[22:48] <artichoku> ok
[22:49] <jaccarmac> blami: how can i use that?
[22:50] <blami> jaccarmac: eh ... man wpa_supplicant
[22:50] <Dead-i> pragmaticenigma: Thanks for all your help - I actually think I might have fixed it now, since I think I had to use Xen to make it pass-through-able.
[22:50] <blami> jaccarmac: or if you have the connection already saved in nm
[22:51] <blami> you can use nmcli
[22:51] <jaccarmac> blami: how can i transfer the connection?
[22:51] <blami> jaccarmac: do you see your connection when you type in 'nmcli con'?
[22:51] <jaccarmac> blami:yes
[22:51] <blami> gooood
[22:52] <blami> jaccarmac: just type nmcli con up <id> where id is the text in column NAME. If it has whitespaces put doublequote it
[22:52] <blami> jaccarmac: that should setup your connection
[22:53] <Acoustyk> artichoku: It was blacklisted and I hashed it out
[22:54] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Now just reboot?
[22:54] <agent> Hi #ubuntu. I'm new here and I was looking for a good source for xchat information, commands and what not. Any help please? :)
[22:55] <jaccarmac> blami: no suitable device found
[22:55] <alcaprawn> agent what is u want to know?
[22:55] <doug__> agent, google is your best friend
[22:55] <alcaprawn> what is it *
[22:55] <agent> Just commands and how to be safe
[22:55] <alcaprawn> check out this mate.
[22:56] <agent> I tried +x and unsure if it's working. Don't even know how to check :S
[22:56] <alcaprawn> http://superuser.com/questions/244927/tor-irssi-ubuntu-10-10
[22:56] <Acoustyk> artichoku: Yeah I need to reboot. If I don't get back on thanks a lot for your help. Seriously I need to get this to my friend tomorrow.
[22:56] <alcaprawn> using irssi and tor to be annoymous
[22:56] <robde> hello, is there a visual cli tool for setting owner and permission settings of files?
[22:56] <alcaprawn> agent: no its not working.
[22:57] <agent> is +i working?
[22:57] <artichoku> does that mean it worked?
[22:57] <artichoku> lol
[22:57] <artichoku> oh he doesn't know yet
[22:58] <alcaprawn> robe look on cli-apps.org
[22:58] <agent> I'm she and no.. I don't know how to make it work... yet
[22:58] <alcaprawn> robde: ^
[22:58] <jaccarmac> hey, i'm trying to use nmcli to connect to a network, but im getting a no device error. is there a way to fix?
[22:59] <blami> jaccarmac: it seems the new kernel also does not recognize your wifi device
[22:59] <jaccarmac> ok, now im getting couldnt creating nmclient object.
[23:00] <jaccarmac> i restarted the networking service
[23:00] <jaccarmac> blami: well, that's just great :)
[23:00] <lurk_> anyone have experience using unetbootin to locally mount an ISO to do a distro install? can you msg me, I have a couple questions
[23:00] <Argafal> For an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ processor, which Ubuntu do I need to install, please?
[23:00] <litropy> I have two monitors. Any chance I can tell the OS to switch audio to another source when I drag a movie to the other monitor?
[23:02] <jaccarmac> any idea how to get ubuntu out of tty-only, low graphics error mode?
[23:03] <Argafal> I'm asking because the i386 12.10 installer fails with a kernel panic, reproducible, on two identical AMD Athlon 64 3200+ systems. I guess it's fair to say that I can rule out a hardware error.
[23:03] <blami> jaccarmac: can't you simply boot older kernel?
[23:03] <jaccarmac> blami: how? my grub is only a flashing magenta screen
[23:03] <blami> jaccarmac: hmpf
[23:04] <Guest74013> hello
[23:04] <blami> jaccarmac: what about external monitor?
[23:04] <Guest74013> who can teach us
[23:04] <Guest74013> hacking
[23:04] <Guest74013> ,
[23:04] <Guest74013> ,,,?
[23:04] <jaccarmac> blami: i have no access to one
[23:04] <bobolopolis> Argafal: that processor supports 64 bit, could try and see if it works
[23:05] <Guest74013> hellooooooooooooo
[23:05] <DJones> Guest74013: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[23:05] <DJones> !hacking | Guest74013
[23:05] <blami> Guest74013: hacking as in modifying opensource software in Ubuntu to better suit user's needs?
[23:05] <Guest74013> hyy
[23:05] <Guest74013> f
[23:05] <lurk_> blami: isn't that the definition of hacking?
[23:06] <Guest74013> lurk_
[23:06] <Guest74013> hello
[23:06] <jaccarmac> lurk_: of course, modifying software in, say, debian, doesn't count, of course
[23:06] <jaccarmac> :)
[23:06] <xzased> hi, just a question regarding lvm: Can you create multiple volume groups in the same physical volume?
[23:06] <sheerun> Is there any tutorial / wiki how to create safe unix environment for tools like http://tryruby.org/ ?
[23:06] <lurk_> yar.
[23:06] <jaccarmac> i needs a network connection here, people...
[23:06] <Guest74013> fuck my life
[23:07] <IdleOne> !language | Guest74013
[23:08] <Guest74013> http://192.168.1.9:8080/me
[23:08] <Guest74013> http://192.168.1.9:8080/me
[23:08] <Guest74013> http://192.168.1.9:8080/me
[23:08] <FloodBot1> Guest74013: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <jaccarmac> thanks
[23:09] <Giggles> testing
[23:09] <Smefima> !list
[23:10] <creese> anyone have success installing on a late model mac mini (the ones that don't have the cd-rom)
[23:10] <Operateur> hi
[23:10] <Operateur> only english here right ?
[23:10] <alcaprawn> hello
[23:10] <Muphrid> yes
[23:10] <alcaprawn> i think so ^
[23:11] <Operateur> i've just installed ubuntu
[23:11] <Operateur> and i have some questions
[23:11] <alcaprawn> anybody has pineapple router please pm me ^
[23:11] <Operateur> i wish you can help
[23:11] <IdleOne> Operateur: if you prefer french you can /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:11] <alcaprawn> its best jsut to ask you're questions :p
[23:12] <DeltaHeavy> Does Ubuntu change the file names for an Apache install? httpd.conf is what I'd expect to be my vhosts file in extra/ that doesn't exist, and apachectl is now apache2ctl?
[23:12] <agent> Hi op :) I'm new and here with questions too. People have been nice so far
[23:12] <Operateur> thanks IdleOne
[23:13] <Operateur> that'sounds great agent
[23:20] <Operateur> how can i install skype on ubuntu ?
[23:20] <ikonia> !skype | Operateur
[23:21] <Operateur> great bot!:D
[23:21] <DeltaHeavy> Anybody know if it's Ubuntu who modifies filenames etc for Apache compared to compiling from source?
[23:21] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: what ?
[23:22] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: When I compile Apache from source, httpd.conf is what apache2.conf is on Ubuntu, and there's no extras/ directory on Ubuntu, and apachectl is called apache2ctl on Ubuntu
[23:22] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: and ?
[23:22] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: you can call the files anything you want, they are just compile time options
[23:22] <DeltaHeavy> Why is it like that? Is it Ubuntu that does that?
[23:22] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: who else would it be who does it ?
[23:23] <DeltaHeavy> Ok, got it. Hate this stupid configuration. Makes no sense.
[23:23] <DeltaHeavy> Every other compile or package on every other distro is completley different than this.
[23:23] <DeltaHeavy> Is this supposed to make things "easier" or something?
[23:23] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: what are you talking about, distros compile apache different.....
[23:24] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: Ubuntu compiles it VASTLY different compared to Debian, CentOS, Gentoo, Arch etc
[23:25] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: not really, default layout is different, and some config file names are changed
[23:25] <DeltaHeavy> I'd rather a package stay close to the defaults as possible, and let me configure changes instead of making decisions for me confusing anybody with previous experiance
[23:25] <ikonia> the base product is still the same,
[23:25] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: build your own package then
[23:25] <DeltaHeavy> It is, it's just the layout is different as all hell. httpd.conf in Ubuntu and httpd.conf in CentOS/default compile are totally different
[23:25] <klingo> hello, does ubuntu gnome remix have its own channel ?
[23:25] <DeltaHeavy> I will I guess, I hate it when Ubuntu tires to make things "easier"
[23:26] <DeltaHeavy> I guess it's fine if I have no clue what I'm doing and it's my first time using Apache which is what I guess Ubuntu is trying to apeal to.
[23:26] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: it's not really that different, it's just a modular approach
[23:26] <DeltaHeavy> I'd consider the other layouts much more modular than this.
[23:26] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: please stop trying to sound like you know what you're doing and its "ok for noobs" - if you knew what you where doing it's pretty straightforward the changes
[23:26] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy:
[23:26] <t4nk809> hey, my computer has been running really slow lately, im running windows 7, do you think if i do a clean install of ubuntu that it will speed up my computer? I like the layout of ubuntu and everything, but I dont want to download it if its going to be slower than windows 7
[23:26] <bobolopolis> DeltaHeavy: I don't think its an attempt to make it easier, its just that each distro has different conventions and ideas about the "right" way to do configurations
[23:27] <ikonia> it's an attempt at a module design, some like it, some don't
[23:27] <ikonia> if it bothers you, rebuild the package
[23:27] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: I know what I"m doing unless everything is almost completely changed around. I wouldn't be using Ubuntu regardless for this task
[23:27] <Giggles> Hey ubuntu when I try to upgrade it says I don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives, wat do?
[23:27] <DeltaHeavy> I'd rather trust Apache to configure Apache than a company that can't even make a DE that doesn't lag terribly
[23:27] <srhb> DeltaHeavy: Also, you are complaining about things where Ubuntu is actually adhering more to standards than certain other things, for instance with respect to httpd.conf
[23:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: if you know what you are doing, it's very straight forward to put a sane httpd.conf in place instead of the apache2.conf
[23:28] <srhb> DeltaHeavy: Yes, now you're being very objective. :P
[23:28] <DeltaHeavy> srhb: So a default compile is less to standards than Ubuntu's configuration?
[23:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: stop talking about a "default compile"
[23:28] <IdleOne> Can we stop the blogging about how much everything sucks?
[23:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: no distro uses a deault compile
[23:28] <DeltaHeavy> "Default configuration"
[23:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: none of them use default configuratio
[23:28] <DeltaHeavy> When I run './configure ; make ; make install'
[23:28] <DeltaHeavy> CentOS is MUCH closer to that than Ubuntu
[23:28] <ikonia> DeltaHeavy: none of them use that
[23:28] <alcaprawn> any mpd experts here?
[23:28] <alcaprawn> its driving me insane >.>#
[23:29] <IdleOne> alcaprawn: try #mpd
[23:29] <alcaprawn> good idea pal, :P
[23:30] <DeltaHeavy> ikonia: None of them change it to something rediculous like Ubuntu. Most of them stay generally similar.
[23:30] <IdleOne> DeltaHeavy: did you get the answer to your question?
[23:30] <ikonia> utter nonsense
[23:30] <IdleOne> This discussion is now off topic. Please stop.
[23:30] <ikonia> good luck in your dream land of "./configure && make"
[23:31] <belgianguy> In Eclipse I see something reference ${ANDROID_NDK}, where should this variable be defined?
[23:31] <belgianguy> as it can't find it
[23:31] <DeltaHeavy> IdleOne: I did, was just confused why Ubuntu would stray so insanely far from the defaults.
[23:32] <ikonia> because it doesn't
[23:32] <IdleOne> DeltaHeavy: because they can so they did. continue in #ubuntu-offtopic. I'm sure ikonia would be glad to explain it to you if he has the time.
[23:32] <DeltaHeavy> I guess you're not very familiar with Apache's defaults
[23:33] <IdleOne> or didn't*. whatever.
[23:33] <ikonia> pretty sure I am
[23:34] <lurk_> anyone have experience using unetbootin to locally mount an ISO to do a distro install? can you msg me, I have a couple questions
[23:34] <yeats> DeltaHeavy: see here for the diffs that Ubuntu applies (most of which are actually inherited from Debian as I understand it) - there are also suggested links for feedback on the right of the page
[23:34] <yeats> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/apache2
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> lurk_: grub2 can boot ISOs on its own. Unetbootin is used to make bootable USB sticks and similar
[23:35] <lurk_> so I can just throw the iso on a partition, boot from that and install?
[23:35] <lurk_> after editing grub that is
[23:37] <dr_willis> you can setup grub2 to boot an ISO file.. if you can figure out the right options
[23:37] <dr_willis> no unetbootin needed. ;)
[23:38] <dr_willis> got some bookmarks on it at delicious.com/dr_willis but they may be outdated
[23:39] <d4rkh4nd> So i made a kdialog app (i guess you can call it) and now i would like to intergrade xdialog into it is there a easy way to do this ?
[23:39] <fearphage> 12.10 is showing only one cpu while 12.04 showed 8. here's the cpuinfo from 12.04 https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3 vs 12.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470631/ ; dmesg = https://gist.github.com/9942d27ccba5ec6bbfe6 ; `uname -r` = 3.5.0-21-generic
[23:43] <iceroot> fearphage: what is "lscpu" showing?
[23:44] <lucien> welp 4.1gb vfat volume, I try to copy 3*1.1gb files to it, no space left. what?
[23:44] <lucien> the irony is that I copied those 3*1.1gb to harddisk from this 4.1gb volume
[23:44] <iceroot> lucien: and deleted them after?
[23:45] <lucien> iceroot: yep...
[23:45] <iceroot> lucien: what is "df" showing for that device?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> lucien: how is that ironic?
[23:45] <iceroot> lucien: you deleted the files with the gui? then they are in the .trash of that device
[23:45] <lucien> use 100%
[23:45] <lucien> available 0
[23:45] <lucien> :\
[23:45] <lucien> welp
[23:46] <iceroot> lucien: then check the .trash dir on that device
[23:46] <IdleOne> the device has those 3.3GB in the .trash
[23:46] <lucien> how do I delete them from there?
[23:46] <lucien> if i try to delete it's going through an endlessloop
[23:46] <iceroot> lucien: use the filebrowser and press ctrl +h to see hidden files or use the shell to access .trash
[23:46] <lucien> where they still get in the .trash-1000
[23:47] <retromingent> So what is  Ubuntuplex?
[23:47] <lucien> If I delete them their folder is just going to get renamed *.2
[23:47] <lucien> wrrryy
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> lucien: is the data on the device needed now?
[23:48] <const_antine> usb flashdrive with very little use is working with very slow write speed
[23:48] <const_antine> can i diagnose the problem?
[23:48] <lucien> ActionParsnip: no...
[23:48] <retromingent> I should have said, what is the "new Ubuntu production" announced at  Ubuntuplex?  A lot of buzz, I guess.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> lucien: then format it and the issue vanishes too
[23:49] <lucien> oh I moved the trash to trash and it deleted itself
[23:49] <lucien> thanks guys
[23:49] <const_antine> usb flashdrive fs is fat32
[23:49] <const_antine> somebody on the internet said it's important
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> fat32 needs to die
[23:49] <zenlike> dr_willis:  I got my Xmonad stuff working the way I wanted.  Thanks!
[23:50] <const_antine> ActionParsnip, agreed
[23:50] <const_antine> the sentence shall be executed to-night
[23:50] <lucien> ActionParsnip: yep
[23:50] <zenlike> For anyone curious, I ended up launching the applications from xmonad.hs.  see: spawnOn.  .xsession and .xinitrc do not work for me.
[23:51] <lucien> The only ubuntu-related problems I ever had were actually caused by windows and its respective proprietaries.
[23:51] <ikonia> windows has no effect on ubuntu
[23:52] <ikonia> please don't blame Windows for any failings in ubuntu
[23:52] <lucien> ikonia: it's proprietaries have, ntfs and fat32 for example.
[23:52] <agent> Is it possible certain things are not compatiable with older versions of Ubuntu that are still being updated?
[23:52] <ikonia> don't use them in linux then
[23:52] <lucien> ikonia: most of the devices I own use fat32
[23:52] <ikonia> don't use them in linux then
[23:53] <faryshta> Is it possible to add a USB as a repository the same way you can add a CD-ROM?
[23:53] <lucien> ikonia: (I'm getting offtopic in here) but what if I don't want to own a windows installation?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i've seen wifis needing to be set to not be able to wake up a system for the wifi adapter to be used in Ubuntu a few times
[23:53] <ikonia> lucien: then don't have one
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: its no different in Linux, they are just block devices
[23:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's a bug, same with a certain sound card, but that's not "windows" fault
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i though it held the hardware hostage with some setting.
[23:54] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: as I recall the driver updated a flag on the firmware somehow
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i see, makes sense
[23:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: but again "windows" didn't write those drivers
[23:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I know where you are going though
[23:55] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: how? I have the USB mounted but I can't install packages from there.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: you can mark the folder as a source for packages
[23:55] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: really? does it not have to have the metadata in ?
[23:56] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: ok let me try
[23:56] <[snake]> I'm having a problem. when I move a folder of files onto my flashdrive the permissions are changed and I can no longer execute a shell script. but it needs to be done this way
[23:57] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: I am on synaptic. Where do I click?
[23:57] <ikonia> [snake]: someone else had this problem a few days ago
[23:57] <fearphage> iceroot: https://gist.github.com/c061dcaa549768259784
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: if memory serves. Let me check
[23:57] <ikonia> [snake]: it looks like ubunut is removing the execute bit as a security feature
[23:58] <ikonia> [snake]: I tried on the day to find any information about it as a feature but struggled
[23:58] <[snake]> I never wanted their security :C
[23:58] <bkc_> [snake]: I'm guessing that flashdrive is formated with fat32 right ?
[23:58] <bkc_> (or ntfs)
[23:58] <[snake]> bkc_, yes. is that the issue lol
[23:58] <bkc_> yes
[23:58] <[snake]> haha, I forgot
[23:58] <[snake]> it doesn't do permissions. :P
[23:58] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: I can't find the option to add folder repositories, only CD-ROM
[23:59] <bkc_> vfat doesn't store the permissions from ext(2,3,4)
[23:59] <ikonia> [snake]: the tests I did also had the same problems with ext2,3,4
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: can't you use:    file;///media/cdrom0/whatever/folder/name
[23:59] <bkc_> neither does NTFS iirc :/
[23:59] <[snake]> ikonia, let me try it out.
[23:59] <ikonia> [snake]: so while fat doesn't store permissions, the problem doesn't actually appear to be limited to the file system