[03:08] <bjruck> I everybody, I am a new user. My first Linux installation. Thank you all.
[05:38] <saras-u8> any idea how get audio interface to work wright
[06:22] <Len-nb> saras, how is your IF not working? What kind is it? Is it USB, internal, fire wire or PCI?
[06:23] <Len-nb> Working right can be a number of combinations, it depends on what the job is you are trying to do.
[06:55] <hepo> Здравствуйте
[06:55] <hepo> есть кто?
[06:57] <holstein> !ru | hepo
[09:57] <ubuntu-studio> Ich habe Ubuntustudio von DVD Heft linuxuser spezial installiert, geht aber anscheinend nur von DVD.
[10:00] <ubuntu-studio> Kann man das irgendwie anders erwerben? Ansonsten baue ich mir selbs ein Konzept mit Ubuntu 12
[11:16] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Hello, Does anyone recommend software and streaming support issue (personally, locally and online) audio / video?. I tried Goalbit, but the user must install plugin's, I would find something standard. Thanks, happy holidays and happy 2013! for all
[12:15] <Ricardo-Ubuntust> Bay, bay
[13:09] <dsenator> hey all, I have just switched to Ubuntu Studio 12.10 and there is a bug... If I leave my system for a while and return it seem to have hybernated or gone to sleep but then I cant get it to wake up or come alive again, so I end up making a hard restart
[13:10] <dsenator> hello
[13:10] <dsenator> my ubunto studio 12.10 always crashes and requires a hard restart everytime I leave my computer for a while and return to it
[13:11] <dsenator> I have reported the bug but no response yet
[15:06] <dsenator> my ubunto studio 12.10 always crashes and requires a hard restart everytime I leave my computer for a while and return to it
[15:24] <holstein> dsenator: i would test that for a hardware issue
[15:24] <dsenator> hey holstein , glad to have you here again
[15:24] <holstein> dsenator: if its a destkop, or easy to open laptop, i usually remove the hard drive (or just disconnect) and troubleshoot the hardware
[15:25] <dsenator> actually its a laptop and the same one I used since the last time we had conversation
[15:25] <dsenator> have always been using ubuntu and no such issue
[15:25] <holstein> dsenator: load up the live CD for ubuntu that worked and test
[15:25] <dsenator> but last week I decided to load up ubuntu studio and have since been having the issue\
[15:26] <holstein> dsenator: switch to ubuntustudo 12.04 if you think its a 12.10 issue
[15:26] <holstein> dsenator: *if* this is a software issue, it is likely a hardware support/driver issue.. so look at the kernel version/type
[15:26] <dsenator> 12.10 is fine just the at since I switched to studio I have this issue
[15:27] <dsenator> holstein, can you show me how
[15:27] <holstein> dsenator: cool.. then load up said 12.10 where everything is "fine" and confirm tis
[15:27] <holstein> dsenator: you can install the same kernel from main ubuntu and test
[15:27] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[15:28] <holstein> dsenator: you can just *not* use ubutustudio
[15:28] <holstein> dsenator: load up the ubuntu version that is working and add whatever you want from our meta-packages.. or whatever audio/video apps you want
[15:28] <holstein> dsenator: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu.. so just add whatever you need to ubuntu and enjoy!
[15:31] <dsenator> linux generic... whats that gonna do
[15:32] <holstein> dsenator: ?
[15:32] <holstein> dsenator: ubuntustudio uses and ships with a lowlatency kernel
[15:32] <holstein> dsenator: ubuntu ships the above generic kernel
[15:32] <holstein> dsenator: if you say "ubuntu was fine and ubuntustudio is broken" i am suggesting installing the same kerne as ubuntu to test and confirm
[15:33] <holstein> dsenator: what is it going to do?? it will install the package i suggested with the generic kernel that is the same kernel ubuntu 12.10 has
[15:33] <dsenator> here is what i got 'linux-generic is already the newest version.
[15:34] <holstein> dsenator: how did you install ubuntustudio?
[15:34] <holstein> dsenator: in a terminal.... "uname -a" and paste output here
[15:34] <dsenator> I think I did it thru the terminal
[15:34] <dsenator> here ''Linux dsenator-HP-Pavilion-dv6500-Notebook-PC 3.5.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 11 18:52:46 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:35] <holstein> dsenator: let me know *exactly* how you did
[15:35] <holstein> dsenator: otherwise, you arent using our kernel
[15:35] <holstein> dsenator: you arent using ubuntustudio
[15:35] <dsenator> hmmm, confused dot com
[15:35] <holstein> dsenator: you can download are 12.10 or 12.04 live cd and test on that hardware and consider reinstalling
[15:36] <dsenator> when yu say test
[15:36] <holstein> dsenator: load up the live CD.. live.. without installing.. as a test.. that will not affect your hardware permanently in any way
[15:38] <dsenator> I dont have a lice cd, I always upgrade... here is the thing, when I fire up my system, I have the choices from which I can choose the ubuntu type i want, so I have the normal ubuntu 12.10 gnome and then I can choose the ubuntu studio
[15:38] <dsenator> xfce
[15:39] <holstein> dsenator: there is no "normal ubuntu 12.10 gnome".. we dont ship gnome on anything
[15:39] <holstein> dsenator: i hear you.. and im sure you are facing a challenging situation.. but i would get a live CD.. the 12.10 ubuntustudio live CD.. load it up and test
[15:39] <dsenator> what does test mean
[15:39] <holstein> if you hae the same issue.. its and ubuntstudio issue.. if you dont.. its your config
[15:40] <dsenator> thats what I cont get
[15:40] <holstein> dsenator: it means to test.. taking your current installation out of the equation
[15:40] <holstein> dsenator: you have a system that you are not sure how or if you hae converted to ubuntustudio... it could be fragmented, misconfigured or broken
[15:41] <holstein> i think it would save a lot of time to take the operating system out of the equation.. by loading up a live CD
[15:41] <holstein> dsenator: i use the live CD's as a tool... i test with them all the time
[15:42] <dsenator> I only get this issue when I leave the system for a long time and then it does some screen saver and then I come back its a black screen, normally when that happen, I just touch any button and it prompts me for a password to login but now it just wont respond until I am forced to hard restart vis the power button
[15:42] <holstein> dsenator: disable the screen saver.. test for tty
[15:42] <holstein> !tty | dsenator
[15:43] <holstein> dsenator: test with the live CD and see if you can replicate the error
[15:44] <dsenator> ok... I cant say I am very sure what to do but i will try out what I understand from this chat and let you know
[15:45] <holstein> dsenator: you troubleshoot..
[15:45] <holstein> dsenator: no one will be able to say 'this is what you have done".. you will have to troubleshoot and test and provide more data
[15:45] <dsenator> when I loaded studio, it was from terminal
[15:45] <holstein> dsenator: sure.. but you dont "load studio"
[15:45] <holstein> theres a different kerenl
[15:46] <holstein> anyways.. that doesnt matter.. if it were my machine, i would just download the live CD.. test and see about the error when it doesnt replicate on the live cd, i would just do a fresh install
[15:46] <holstein> if you dont need ubuntustudio, just fresh install xubuntu
[15:47] <dsenator> thing is I can switch to the ubuntu on startup
[15:47] <holstein> dsenator: thats just destkop environment
[15:48] <dsenator> hmm ok
[15:48] <holstein> dsenator: you arent switching to ubuntustudio.. and you likely dont need to
[15:48] <holstein> dsenator: if you think its an issue with the xfce screensaver, turn it off
[15:48] <dsenator> this is what I used ''~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[15:48] <holstein> dsenator: you are not using ubuntustudio though. and you likey dont need it
[15:49] <holstein> dsenator: we have a kernel too
[15:50] <dsenator> when I load up I see ubuntu studio at the bottom of my desktop screen, how do you mean I dont use ubuntustudio
[15:50] <holstein> dsenator: we have a kernel too and you dont have it installed
[15:50] <holstein> dsenator: thats how i mean... you have installed some meta packages though
[15:50] <dsenator> ok
[15:50] <holstein> dsenator: try tty next time that happens
[15:50] <holstein> !tty
[15:51] <dsenator> tty???
[15:51] <holstein> dsenator: yes.. tty
[15:51] <holstein> !tty | dsenator
[15:51] <dsenator> you mean next time ii have the blank screen i shd use the key combi
[15:51] <holstein> dsenator: correct
[15:51] <holstein> dsenator: then you will be able to sudo reboot
[15:51] <holstein> and you will confirm that the machine is not locked up
[15:52] <dsenator> hmmm
[15:52] <dsenator> so please, tell me about the method i used to install studio
[15:52] <holstein> if you have a PPA added for gnome,, that could be breaking something
[15:52] <holstein> dsenator: ?
[15:52] <holstein> dsenator: the method you used to add some of the ubuntustudtio metapackages??
[15:52] <dsenator> what is wrong, missing or incomplete
[15:52] <dsenator> ~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video
[15:52] <holstein> dsenator: i would install from CD
[15:53] <dsenator> hmmm I see
[15:53] <holstein> dsenator: you can add our kernel too if you want.. but you likely dont need it.. or any of the other stuff
[15:53] <dsenator> i was hoping to not have to do that
[15:53] <holstein> dsenator: for example
[15:53] <dsenator> our kernel if yu want... ???
[15:54] <holstein> dsenator: we ship a kernel.. not the one you are using.. but you likely dont need it
[15:54] <holstein> dsenator: you can just remove all those meta packages and insatll what you want
[15:55] <holstein> dsenator: for example.. if you are just going to use JACK and ardour.. just install JACK and ardour in the environment that you use, that is working that is not giving you a black screen
[15:55] <dsenator> so whats the benefit of ubuntu studio to ubuntu
[15:55] <dsenator> I know its low latency
[15:56] <holstein> dsenator: nope
[15:56] <holstein> dsenator: we have a lowlatency kernel though... and you are not using it
[15:56] <holstein> dsenator: though, you likely dont need it
[15:56] <dsenator> why not
[15:56] <holstein> dsenator: you didnt install it.. and you likley dont need lowlatency
[15:56] <dsenator> when yu say we, who is we??? illuminati... sorry kidding
[15:56] <dsenator> but what do you mean we
[15:57] <holstein> dsenator: we = ubuntustudio
[15:57] <dsenator> oh
[15:57] <holstein> ubuntustudio has a lowlatency kernel. but you didnt install it
[15:57] <dsenator> ok PLEASE show me how to remove the stuffs I added and use your own
[15:57] <holstein> ?
[15:58] <holstein> dsenator: sure.. just elaborate as to what you have and what you want
[15:58] <holstein> dsenator: if you arent doing software synths live or live audio effects, you dont need lowlatency
[15:58] <holstein> dsenator: if you have an internal sound care, that will be more limiting than the software
[15:59] <dsenator> I see, so  yes I hav an internal sound card
[15:59] <holstein> dsenator: so, dont bother.. ubuntustudio is not magic
[15:59] <holstein> it wont make your hardware any faster
[16:00] <dsenator> and I also do some music audio stuff, or say wanna do them which made me think studio is right
[16:00] <holstein> dsenator: it might be... you shoud try it.. live
[16:01] <dsenator> ok
[16:01] <holstein> dsenator: then, you can decie if you want to fresh install to get a properly configured system, or continue "troubleshooting" with myself or one of the other volunteers
[16:01] <holstein> decide*
[16:01] <dsenator> you said ealier on that ''you can just remove all those meta packages and insatll what you want''
[16:01] <holstein> dsenator: correct
[16:01] <dsenator> and that I can use your kernel
[16:01] <dsenator> can we do that pls
[16:01] <holstein> dsenator: the metapackages just contain applications
[16:01] <holstein> dsenator: you can just install those applications
[16:02] <holstein> if you are only going to use audactiy sometimes, you dont need ubuntustudio.. just install audactiy
[16:02] <dsenator> how do I remove them and use your low latency studio kernel
[16:02] <holstein> dsenator: you are mis-understanding me
[16:02] <lopblop> well i must say, ubuntu studio is my fav of all the deb derivitives
[16:02] <dsenator> I always had audacity even before this switch
[16:03] <dsenator> exactly
[16:03] <holstein> dsenator: you have *most* of ubuntustudio
[16:03] <dsenator> ok
[16:03] <holstein> dsenator: id you want *all* of it.. finish installing the packages.. or reinstall
[16:03] <holstein> dsenator: if you dont need ubuntustudio, and you are having issues.. just use the pacakges you want
[16:04] <dsenator> ok... I understand you
[16:04] <dsenator> I am saying... I wanna try studio cos of the perceived advabtages
[16:04] <holstein> dsenator: i would try our live CD.. see if you want/need it.. then just resinstall fresh
[16:04] <dsenator> I surely want it
[16:04] <holstein> dsenator: if you have a PPA for gnome installed, that could be breaking things
[16:04] <dsenator> ok... how do i check
[16:04] <dsenator> for that
[16:05] <holstein> dsenator: did you add one?
[16:05] <dsenator> i dont know
[16:05] <dsenator> I think so
[16:05] <lopblop> it would be in your software sources under settings in the launcher menu
[16:05] <holstein> dsenator: i would fresh install... i have no idea what is up with your install and you are implying you dont either
[16:05] <dsenator> so if i fresh install studio, how about my files
[16:06] <lopblop> for sure. save your /home folder and do a fresh install
[16:06] <dsenator> do I loose anything
[16:06] <dsenator> hmmm
[16:06] <holstein> dsenator: your files are beside the point.. you *will* lose them when that hard drive crashes.. it *will* die
[16:06] <holstein> dsenator: take this opportunity to plan for that event that *will* happen.. then you will never lose anything
[16:07] <dsenator> what a nice way of saying harsh things
[16:07] <dsenator> nice
[16:07] <lopblop> anything you dont have multiple backups of stored in seperate locations is data you dont care about
[16:07] <holstein> is data you had better not care about
[16:11] <holstein> gotta run.. cheers..
[16:12] <lopblop> enjoy
[16:13] <dsenator> cheers guys thanks
[16:14] <dsenator> will ht back when i figure out what has to happen to with from all the options
[17:44] <petrux> hi guys
[17:44] <petrux> first contact with ubuntu studio :-)
[17:45] <petrux> but I cannot get my wireless connection working (while the wired one is going fine)
[17:45] <petrux> looking around, it seems it could be a driver issue. How can I check for the installed drivers and eventually install new ones?
[17:52] <lopblop> lspci or lsusb
[17:52] <lopblop> to find out what chip the wifi is
[17:53] <lopblop> you may need to load special firmware
[17:53] <petrux> let me check
[17:54] <petrux> lopblop: 02:05.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3872 [Prism 3] (rev 01)
[17:55] <petrux> Do you think I have to install a proper driver?
[17:55] <lopblop> well to be honest i've never heared of that. feel free to google/bing/ whatever with me
[17:57] <holstein> petrux: i think that is the wired one
[17:57] <holstein> petrux: run lspci in the terminal and output the text to..
[17:57] <holstein> !paste | petrux
[17:57] <holstein> you likely have a broadcom chip
[17:57] <holstein> !broadcom
[17:57] <lopblop> prism sounds like wifi to me
[17:58] <holstein> might be...
[17:58] <petrux> yes, I'm talking about wifi
[17:58] <petrux> anyway, no broadcom
[17:59] <petrux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1470506/
[17:59] <petrux> holstein, here is the paste
[18:00] <holstein> petrux: i dont see any information when i search.. i would try #ubuntu since this is not an ubuntustudio specific issue
[18:00] <holstein> petrux: i might try a localized support channel.. might find someone with that hardware and experience with t
[18:00] <holstein> it*
[18:00] <lopblop> this looks promising:  http://hostap.epitest.fi/
[18:01] <lopblop> nope got ahead of myself nevermind
[18:01] <holstein> i agree that the Intersil Corporation ISL3872 [Prism 3] (rev 01) device is the wifi device
[18:02] <petrux> well... I need some spoonfeeding, I'm quite a newbie... so any advice is really appreciated!
[18:02] <holstein> i might just grab some live CD's.. fire them up and see if anything supports the device... i would want ubuntu 10.04, 12.04
[18:03] <holstein> petrux: there seems to be very little information.. keep in mind, there is nothing in linux/ubntu preventing the hardware vendor from providing you with a driver
[18:04] <holstein> if you try a few live CD's, you might find something that works with it.. that could help you add support in
[18:04] <lopblop> this thing has been a problem for a long time it looks like since kernal 2.6. seeing a lot of posts saying it worked on 2.4
[18:04] <lopblop> not a lot of recent info
[18:05] <holstein> driver support can be dropped. if its not maintained.. or just too old
[18:05] <holstein> if it were me, i would try to replace the hardware
[18:06] <lopblop> yeah they arent expensive anymore. not worth the hassle but this looks promising: http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.7.1/drivers/net/wireless/Kconfig
[18:06] <lopblop> linked from http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/PCI_HERMES.html
[18:06] <petrux> it's a very old HW configuration, actually...
[18:08] <lopblop> unless you absolutely need packet injection, i'd upgrade the thing
[18:11] <petrux> cannot upgrade actually
[18:11] <petrux> the card is integrated
[18:11] <lopblop> no USB or PCMCIA you could use?
[18:13] <petrux> ah, ok... you mean getting a new (external) wireless card?
[18:13] <holstein> *any* other wifi hardware.. assuming you eed wifi
[18:13] <holstein> need*
[18:14] <lopblop> before that maybe try installing NDIS wrapper just to make sure its not an easy fix
[18:14] <lopblop> but if that doesnt work get an extern USB dongle WiFi or something
[18:14] <holstein> yeah.. i have a card that works well with ndis actually
[18:14] <holstein> slipped my mind.. ndisgtk
[18:17] <lopblop> ASUS USN-N13   is what i use. got a bunch of them for cheap a few years back and they work out of the box for pretty much every system i've ever plugged em into. they even have Win98/ME/NT drivers available
[18:17] <lopblop> USB-N13*
[22:12] <Guest77214> help
[22:12] <Guest77214> i have a akai eie tring to get it work with ubuntu studio
[22:49] <holstein> Guest77214: cool
[22:49] <holstein> Guest77214: it might not work
[22:50] <holstein> Guest77214: keep in mind, there is nothing about linux or ubuntu that is preventing akai from providing a driver for you and the operating system you choose to use
[22:50] <holstein> http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-AKAI doesnt look good for akai
[22:50] <Guest77214> that is so helpfull
[22:50] <holstein> !sound | Guest77214
[22:51] <holstein> there are some general "how tos" on linu audio
[22:51] <holstein> i usually just install or plug the device.. then i open a terminal and run either lspci or lsusb or both
[22:51] <Guest77214> it is not show in jack or alsa right
[22:51] <Guest77214> it show as a output device
[22:52] <holstein> then i run 'aplay -l' and 'arecord -l'
[22:52] <holstein> Guest77214: you'll need to tell me if it is showing in JACk or alsa
[22:52] <holstein> JACK uses alsa though
[22:54] <lop-plop> strange problem: "There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/WIM2NpTe.part."  which is a 49 MB file, i have 2GB available (2.7 free) on "/" and 3GB available RAM.
[22:55] <lop-plop> recieveing error when attempting to download a file through Firefox
[22:56] <holstein> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/929051
[22:57] <holstein> maybe just empty the trash
[22:57] <holstein> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-206630.html
[22:57] <lop-plop> yeah that was the first thing i tried  :P
[22:57] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1032035
[22:58] <Guest77214> i dont see any usb device on arecord
[22:58] <holstein> Guest77214: then alsa is not using it. and it might not
[22:58] <Guest77214> on lsusb i have Bus 001 Device 007: ID 09e8:0011 AKAI  Professional M.I. Corp.
[22:58] <holstein> Guest77214: i would search "ubuntu akai model" and see what comes up... or "alsa akai model".. and keep in mind, it might not work
[22:59] <holstein> i dont think akai works well with alsa
[22:59] <holstein> Guest77214: if you can return it, i would. and get something well supported
[23:00] <holstein> maudio has a few USB devices that work well and are usually a good value
[23:00] <holstein> Guest77214: be sure and let akai know you would like to use the product they have created with linux/ubuntu
[23:01]  * holstein has to run... Guest77214 , try #opensourcemusicians if its slow in here.. lop-plop try those suggestions, then maybe try #xubntu or #ubuntu or a firefox support channel.. cheers!
[23:01] <lop-plop> enjoy
[23:02] <lop-plop> yup i already did all that
[23:03] <Guest77214> why do just get midi in jack for the m-audio or the akai
[23:05] <lop-plop> i'd suggest trying in #jack
[23:05] <lop-plop> i know very little about it. as it has yet to act up on me
[23:07] <lop-plop> i can tell you a good friend of mine retired from the music production industry as he is just getting burned out on the lack of support all the manufacturers and software providers have. he says support with anything to anything has never been good on any platform and its only been getting worse over the years
[23:13] <lop-plop> Guest77214:  theres some people in #jack available right now. try typing /join #jack