=== Neshemah is now known as Catbuntu === Catbuntu is now known as Neshemah [00:58] hey. I'm installing Xubuntu 12.10, and it's been stuck on 'Copying installation logs...' for almost an hour now. Anyone has any idea why/how to fix it? [01:19] I'm installing the Xubuntu-Desktop to my Ubuntu. When finished. Would it be safe to switch over to the xfce awesome of things, and remove the gnome without issue? [01:20] sure [01:20] So I can 'convert' my ubuntu install over to basically a Xubuntu? Since UNetBootin seems to be frying my flashdrives [01:21] just ude dd command if u need to make a live usb [01:21] use* [01:21] No clue how to do that [01:21] I love xfce and xubuntu. It's the best I've ever used. And I really wanna go back [01:22] o [01:22] install xubuntu then [01:22] !purexfce [01:22] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [01:23] so this is basically a guide to 'convert'? :D [01:24] remove junk basically [01:25] Since I'm installing xubuntu-desktop. I can edit the command and remove the apt-get install xubuntu-desktop right? [01:26] Wait no. I remember if it's installed. It'll just say it's installed and up to date. Now.. does this damage any personal files? [01:26] no ur porn files are safe [01:27] :D yay.... jk jk [01:35] Happy holidays all [01:38] Wow this takes a really long time [01:39] Now I restart right? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:30] hi [03:31] how to change brightness in xfce? === xubuntu is now known as Guest61483 [03:48] Ok. so I tried the psychocat switch to xubuntu. And now it won't load. However I'm on a live version of xubunut. and the installer keeps crashing. From here. Can I fix the boot problem? [03:51] No one knows? [03:51] where does it fail at? [03:53] it goes pas the xubuntu splash, then nothing comes up at all [03:53] blank screen [03:54] might have more info if you disable the splash [03:54] you didn't remove the graphics driver? [03:55] Nope. I followed the psychocat site about removing ubuntu and installing xubuntu clean [03:55] copied and pasted his provided command [03:55] at the grub menu edit the kernel to remove splash [03:56] Or press esc and get info? [03:56] s/kernel/kernel line/ [03:57] you need to find where it fails at so do whatever you need to to get that info [03:57] reading the boot text is easiest afaik [03:58] Then I shall come back... Cause i'm trying install a fresh from disk xubuntu 12.04 and the installer fails everytime [03:58] checked the disk?!md5 [03:58] !md5 [03:58] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [03:59] Have not [04:00] So on live can I do that md5 command thing through terminal and see what shows on the hd? [04:02] should be a menu entry for checking it [04:03] Im really not this advanced [04:07] when you boot the live cd there should be a menu entry for checking/verifying it [04:07] been ages since I've seen a live cd [04:08] On this version it's only try it, or install it [04:09] I have all my docs backed up. I'm perfectly fine if I have to just wipe/format this drive and install fresh.. that's not an issue. but if the installer fails copying. I don't know what to do [04:10] why not just fix the installed xubuntu's boot problem ? [04:11] I could. How do I do that and from where? [04:13] first we have to find out why it doesn't boot [04:14] Ok. and I can find that out by esc at splash. and seeing where it stalls? Sorry for asking. I've never been faced with this issue [04:14] yep try that [04:14] Will do. I will remove said disk. find out. And be back [04:15] if it goes to a blank screen you'll have to be quick to see the last bit of text [04:28] How can I add things to my system tray? [04:29] like what kind of things? [04:29] apps should have an option for that [04:30] if they can be added there [04:30] well_laid_lawn: right now I'm trying to switch from xfce4 panel to tint2. The systray is showing in tint2, but only the power manager icon is showing. I want to add JUPITER into that tray so it's icon shows as well. [04:32] I don't know what jupiter is - does it have an option to show in the system tray? [04:33] It shows up in the indicator plugin part of the xfce4 panel but upon clicking it's icon, there's no preferences/options button [04:33] It's similar to power manager [04:38] found the sourceforge page for it - says it should automatically end up n the tray [04:38] might have to check your tint config === xubuntu is now known as Guest84038 [04:39] It tells me to run fsck. But then when I try and let it load /log in. It tells me to log in. I type my user name and password. It comes back saying it's wrong [04:39] well_laid_lawn: I have :S [04:40] Guest84038: you should run fsck when the partitions aren't mounted e.g. from a live cd [04:41] Ok. I'm on live. How do I do that [04:42] e2fsck /dev/sda# replace sda# with the root partition dev [04:42] And how do I find that exact number? [04:42] it should have said the command to run when it said you needed to run fsck [04:43] so probably sda1 [04:43] iirc it always mentions e2fsck -a /dev/sda# [04:43] make sure it isn't mounted by running mount and checking the output [04:43] Actually I could look on gparted and see what it's labeled as [04:44] yep [04:44] Yes sda1 [04:45] I must have r/w access [04:45] tried sudo ? [04:45] yeah just now and it says it's clean [04:45] but yet won't let me in [04:46] do you have a seperate /home partition? [04:46] I have 2. the normal and the swap [04:46] k [04:47] ext4, extended, and swap [04:47] so 3 [04:48] since the fsck passed ok try booting in, check for errors and type the password carefully [04:48] well it tells me my user name is wrong [04:49] And I know my user name. I use the same one for everything [04:50] localhost log in is what it said exactly [04:50] shouldn't say that - should be mentioning the computer's hostname [04:51] Ok. It does say localhost@ something local [04:51] can you mount the partition and check in /home for your folder [04:52] From live? [04:52] yep do you have an icon for the partition on the desktop? [04:53] yes and the righ click option to moutn [04:53] mount* [04:53] mount and browse to it in the file manager [04:53] Mounted, opened, looking at my home folder [04:54] it might be failing because gdm was removed and not replaced with lightdm <- guess [04:55] So is there a fix while 'live' [05:02] if I were to download and install something, say tint2, would I be alerted by the update manager if it wasn't the most recent version? [05:04] Well, you should pull it from the repo, that way it'll get updates and all. [05:04] !software [05:04] A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents [05:04] So I take it no one knows how to get this fixed? Live kind of sucks and I really don't wanna get on windows again [05:06] Unit193: I just did sudo apt-get install tint2 in terminal and it installed...is it possible that it isn't the most recent version...? [05:07] Guest84038: I haven't read most of what you tried, so sorry. Have you tried `touch /forcefsck` on the root partition? [05:07] shmoove: Yes, what is in the repos isn't always up to date. [05:08] Unit193: now that i've installed it, is it possible to update it? [05:08] Or to try to update it, maybe to see if it's even necessary? [05:09] As long as your sources are up to date, you don't need to update it right after installing. :) [05:09] sudo apt-get update will update your sources. [05:09] Unit193 should I do that while mounted on live or unmount and do it.. I don't know what that tech stuff is. I've never had this happen [05:10] Guest84038: You have to do that to the root of your harddrive (So /) but you can change the command so you don't have to be in the system or chroot in. [05:11] Unit193 so would you mind walking me through it while I'm on a live disk? [05:13] Guest84038: I can try. Open thunar, see the disk name on the side? Click that. After you see the files, right click and hit new file, name that file forcefsck [05:14] I am on a live cd of xubuntu 12.04 and I don't see thunar [05:15] Thunar is the file manager, so you can click on any folder to open it. [05:17] Any folder I'm browsed to my filesystem, looking at my home folder [05:22] Guest84038: Needs to be the root folder, so if your home is /home/user2, you need to be in / [05:23] My Root folder has an X on it [05:26] death then [05:33] When I righ click anywhere I don't get a new file option [05:36] killall thunar [05:39] So what do I do :d [05:39] I just want my linux drive back [05:43] Guest84038: You need to open it as root, or right click > open terminal here and paste that command: sudo touch /forcefsck [05:43] So anywhere in the drive file manager, select open terminal and pase that? [05:44] And here's my folders. I have root with an X over it. and I have a usr [05:47] I'm gonna swich to windows for a bit. I'll bbl.. I need to rest my head [09:38] happy season holidays, and double click on title bar is not working [09:38] please help me :D [09:38] with double click, in unity it usually maximise or minimise apps [09:39] in xfce it doesn't do anything [09:39] try a single click? seems to work here or i don't understand your question. :) [09:40] ah, you said titlebar, not the taskbar. [09:42] yes yes [09:42] I really need this feature [09:42] or maybe it is compiz feature [09:43] and xfce is in dark ages [09:43] tried dragging the window to the top of the screen [09:43] or a side [09:44] I know [09:44] but I like double click [09:44] edit the keyboard shortcuts then [09:45] seriously how to add mouse double click [09:46] I just crashed this window in unexpected way lol [09:54] bump [09:54] how to add double click on title to maximise/minimise [09:54] ? [09:54] :D [12:03] anybody knows some awesome widget that shows all kind of information on desktop [12:13] Conky [12:38] best alternative dock for xfce? [13:40] hi. i am looking for xubuntu 11.04 for my old computer, but cannot find it [13:41] the link to cdimage.ubuntu.com is dead [13:47] hi [13:47] Im trying to make a usb creator [13:47] It doesn't work [13:48] no application works properly [13:49] please anybody help me make a usb stick [13:49] no program works properly [13:49] peyam, what is an usb creator? [13:50] GridCube: Trying to make abootable usb [13:50] live usb [13:50] oh [13:50] just use unetbootin [13:50] doesn't work [13:50] :( [13:51] format the usb using gparted [13:51] how should I do that? [13:52] go to the mouselogo > system > Gparted [13:53] if you dont have gparted on the system menuy [13:53] what should I format it do? [13:53] you have to install it [13:53] format it to fat32 [13:53] have installed it [13:53] yes [13:53] and then? [13:53] then try unetbootin again [13:54] formating will delete it completely and fix some errors [13:54] Wait [13:54] waiting [13:54] GridCube: I installed xubuntu on my computer [13:54] once [13:55] and it says " /boot/.../normal.mod couldnt be find [13:55] that sounds like a grub error [13:56] yes [13:56] get a live session running and run boot-repair [13:56] !boot-repair [13:56] !bootrepair [13:56] on the grub? [13:56] no on the live session [13:56] whrere? [13:56] it will fix grub [13:56] from the live session [13:56] on live usb? [13:57] from the liveusb yes [13:57] from any live session [13:57] GridCube: should I open the terminal of the live usb live and type !bootrepair? [13:57] peyam, see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [13:58] peyam, that link will explain lengthly [13:58] yes [13:58] so I open the terminal in the live usb [13:58] and follow the link? [13:59] no [13:59] read the link now [13:59] I cant go in to xubuntu [13:59] becouse of the grub error [13:59] yes [13:59] you will be using a live session when using boot-repair [13:59] please read the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [13:59] it explains [14:00] yes [14:00] I will do that [14:00] :) [14:02] being strugelling with this in two days [14:03] :) [14:13] GridCube: still problem :( [14:14] :( [14:14] peyam, the problem is with the liveusb or with boot-repair? [14:33] hi, i have a question. I've changed my default file browser from thunar to nautilus. Now when i try to open for example a text file the file browser opens instead of the file. When i set thunar as default the file opens directly. Any idea how to fix it? [14:35] maybe you can try to set the default program to open it. [14:35] i would bet that thunar calls exo-open and nautilus doesnt [14:36] i dont know whats the replacement for exo-open on gnome tho [14:36] GridCube: yes i think thats it [14:36] hmm ok [14:36] xdg-open? [14:36] or gnome-open [14:36] where do i have to set it? [14:37] beats me, you might have to ask on a gnome channel [14:37] ok [14:37] thanks [14:38] no problem. sorry for not being of better help [14:42] GridCube: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/04/fix-gnome-opengvfs-open-open-nautilus.html [14:43] hi [14:43] I can get usb bootable to work [14:44] :D great [14:44] It doe'nt boot the usb [14:44] GridCube: it doesnt boot it [14:44] shows nothing [14:44] oh [14:44] :| are you sure unetbootin its working properly? [14:44] cant' [14:44] or that your pendrive its fine? [14:45] grid I tried usb-creator-gtk and it works fine [14:45] yes it works good [14:45] I did change someting in the bios last time I wanted to install it [14:45] and it worked [14:45] Peyam, does your machine use uefi or bios? [14:45] Now I don't remember what that was [14:45] uefi [14:45] oooooooooooooooooooooo [14:45] great [14:45] !uefi | Peyam [14:45] Peyam: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [14:46] we should have started there XD [14:46] I have both windows an xubuntu and I have very important stuff in windows [14:46] I should have them [14:46] Peyam, yeah, uefi can be a real real real pain [14:47] please read the article i just passed you, it should guide you, i havent ever installed on uefi yet [14:47] GridCube: Should I now download ubuntu secure? [14:47] not really Peyam [14:47] read the uefi manual from ubuntu/community Peyam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [14:48] baizon, that sounds like a nice hack :) [14:48] I dont have any secure boot [14:48] Ive chaecked that [14:49] Im 100% sure [14:55] GridCube: I use AsrockH67M and it doesn have any option for secure boot [14:56] Peyam, not all uefi have secure boot, but then again i dont understand uefi [14:56] i just dont understand how it works [14:56] you might have to wait for someone smarter [14:56] I will try this time again [14:56] if it didnt work I will change back to Fedora [15:00] sorry about that [15:32] how would one install gpa on precise? [15:34] nyRednek: gnu privacy assistant? [15:38] nyRednek: assuming that is what you are asking about.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto "GPA is available in the "Universe" repository" [15:38] GridCube: I guess I know [15:39] holstein, it isn't in the universe repo for precise [15:39] I should change the partition name to sdb an not sbd1 [15:39] How do I change the name of the partition? [15:39] Peyam, ahm... you have to give it to the program you are using to install [15:40] but Peyam what do youmean? [15:40] Grid I saw somewhere that the parttion label should e Live [15:40] if you'll notice, it's available for 11.10, 12.10, but not 12.04 [15:40] and the name of partition should be sdb [15:40] also, for what i understand uefi boots need to have a small partition at the first part of the disk to store the partitions tables and whatnots [15:40] and nothing else [15:41] Peyam, again, sorry but i dont understand your needs :( boot-repair should fix those issues though [15:41] thats about the only thing i know about uefi [15:42] nyRednek: is that what you are looking for? [15:42] GridCube: I want to know how to chnage the partition name to sbd [15:42] the current name is sdb1 [15:42] and it should be sdb without anynumber [15:43] hey is there any way to access irc channel when my os crash? [15:43] Peyam, sdb1 its the partition name, sdb its the whole disk name [15:43] holstein, it's the program, but it isn't in the 12.04 repo [15:43] !irssi | jiwan [15:43] jiwan: irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help. See also !screen [15:43] !webchat [15:43] but does i open irssi without opening os [15:43] http://webchat.freenode.net/ [15:43] nyRednek: it being "gnu privacy assistant" ? correct? that is what you are trying to install? in 12.04? 23bit or 64? [15:44] 32 bit [15:44] jiwan, if you can get to a tty yes [15:45] you dont need a graphical enviroment for irssi [15:45] but if you cant get that either, you can log in using the webchat or another irc program from other machine [15:45] tty means terminal [15:46] i am using mobile broadband, how to enable it using terminal? [15:47] jiwan, usb dongle or mifi? [15:49] it is mobile [15:49] and it is nokia 5233 [15:49] please help me sir? [15:50] jiwan: you might not be able to [15:54] jiwan, there are irc programs for symbian, well, for java [15:57] jiwan, this just works; http://jedirc.wen9.net/ [15:58] and this is paid, so i never tried it http://store.ovi.com/content/270000 [16:26] I need serious help. I think the latest update broke something really bad. My windows are really messy, without the titlebar. IT is just gone and I can't open the Window Settings. [16:27] Does anyone have any idea or something what could have happened? The desktop folder placement also changed and instead of 2 workplaces, only 1 shows in the taskbar. [16:27] I am really worried about my data as I was doing a backup of things. [16:29] Thunar broke I think. [16:29] Does anyone know how to troubleshoot or something? [16:32] No one? [16:47] Anyone here? I really need serious help. [16:47] I am running into some very weird errors. [16:58] fornax: just ask [17:02] If I installed XFCE on Ubuntu 12.10 [17:02] is it safe to remove unity [17:03] with synaptic? [17:03] anyone done this? [17:03] Ronalds: i would look and see what else is wanting to be removed.. i would notice the size on disk and see if it really matters.. i have done both [17:04] there is a great tech tip "if it ain't broke" [17:04] for example unity webaps service was running [17:05] Ronalds: then remove it... just notice what else is getting removed [17:05] zeitgeist? [17:05] it's for file searching? [17:06] no, for logging [17:06] I think [17:06] http://linuxaria.com/howto/how-to-remove-zeitgeist-in-ubuntu-and-why?lang=en [17:07] http://askubuntu.com/questions/45548/disabling-zeitgeist [17:07] so I wanted to remove that [17:07] webapps thing, and it came with unity [17:07] Ronalds: check out my links i found for you above [17:07] lol [17:07] yeah [17:07] zeitgeist-daemon --quit sudo apt-get --purge autoremove activity-log-manager-common activity-log-manager-control-center zeitgeist zeitgeist-core zeitgeist-datahub sudo rm -fr {/root,/home/*}/.local/share/zeitgeist [17:07] this works? [17:08] Ronalds: just read what else is getting effected by that command [17:09] I once got from KDE removing to plain unity, to not even starting anything [17:09] wasn't good feeling [17:10] ok lets try this one [17:10] :D [17:10] Ronalds: thats why i suggest noticing what else is on the list for removal.. i have done that as well.. i have also carefully successfully removed what i wanted. i usually just leave working systems alone thought these days [17:11] that is one of the linux problems basicly [17:12] Ronalds: not getting a working system?.. seems like you have it working fine "out of the box" [17:12] yeah, I'm having problems with tweaking mania [17:13] i usually tweak a VM... virtualbox with saved snapped shots names "before i broke anything" [17:13] so zeitgeist went down normally [17:14] AInt nobody got time for dat :D [17:14] what is ubuntu geoip provider [17:14] ? :D [17:15] Ronalds: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142581/is-ubuntu-geoip-geoclue-used-for-tracking [17:15] yeah I googled [17:15] looks like ubuntu really is spyware [17:15] :D [17:16] Stallman was right [17:16] yeah?.. thats for geospatial awareness... more for mobile space [17:16] just joking [17:18] Ronalds: cool.. carry on with jokes in the OT channel.. #xubuntu-offtopic [17:18] sorry [17:19] Ronalds: no worries.. thats what the OT channel is for :) [17:19] still looks like removing unity is unsafe [17:19] cause, it carries lightdm thingy [17:20] and I wouldn't wan't to wake up without entrance.. [17:28] hi guys, i have xubuntu 12.04? or 11.10? with 4 desktops, i was wondering how do you change the wallpaper on each desktop? [17:29] 4 workspaces* i mean [17:31] i dont think you can do that [17:32] link0r: lsb_release -a [17:32] all workspaces share one wallpaper? [17:33] and yea, probably [17:40] http://askubuntu.com/questions/75998/is-it-possible-to-have-a-different-background-for-each-workspace link0r it's possible with Ubuntu, nothing found so far for xubuntu though [17:41] :( thansk bazhang [17:41] wallpapoz supposedly provides that function, but I dont see that in the repos [17:42] link0r: I've missed the conversation. Do you want one wallpaper different for each workspace ? I've seen that on Xubuntu Voyager... (but only by switching workspace via a widget on the desktop, i think) [17:43] Zelouille: yeah, one wallpaper on 4 different workspaces [17:43] it makes me sad that they have the ability to ALLOW 4 workspaces but cant change wallpapers on each? it seems so basic in nature [17:47] Ok after trying myself about a dozen times reading several forums, I still cannot install Xubuntu on my 500GB HDD, somehow the EFI system changes the drive format back to how it was previously. [17:50] The system doesn't have an option to turn EFI off. Does anyone know how to get it to install. The entire Linux system install, but grub appears to be non existant. [17:51] ironhoof, you need to make a small partition at the begining of the disk for the uefi's mbr equivalent [17:51] !uefi | ironhoof [17:51] ironhoof: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [17:52] Yea I have read all about the GUUID, and all that, but I will give this a read too, and see. [17:58] Ronalds: you might prefer installing the xubuntu-desktop metapackage [18:07] i need to format my sda4 drive, but how i don't know? [18:07] jesue: i use gparted [18:07] but i wanna use terminal? [18:07]