[00:40] <eshack> ok, anyone around with some bash skill?  I have a dmg (mac file) that I created, and encrypted, and now need to open.  It was just a folder encrypted for security
[00:40] <eshack> I also converted it on the mac to an IMG, but cannot seem to open that either.
[00:40] <eshack> any ideas?
[00:41] <eshack> dmg2img gives me  'dmg image is corrupted'  which i doubt it is.
[00:41] <eshack> I think it can't handle it because it is encrypted.
[01:04] <zacarias> Hi. Is there a way of choosing a different startup disk from within Kubuntu, i.e., if I want to boot from a live cd or from another partition or hard disk, can I choose it from within Kubuntu, without having to choose it from a boot manageror similar? Like a start up disk option in the system settings?
[01:09] <zacarias> Hi. Is there a way of choosing a different startup disk from within Kubuntu, i.e., if I want to boot from a live cd or from another partition or hard disk, can I choose it from within Kubuntu, without having to choose it from a boot manageror similar? Like a start up disk option in the system settings?
[01:45] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:56] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:00] <zacarias> Sorry to insist...Is there a way of choosing a different startup disk from within Kubuntu, i.e., if I want to boot from a live cd or from another partition or hard disk, can I choose it from within Kubuntu, without having to choose it from a boot manageror similar? Like a start up disk option in the system settings?
[02:44] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[02:50] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:43] <cjae> How do I get my screen to hold settings? everytime I logout or even with inactivity although I am not sure about timeout. randr keeps disabling the tv
[06:23] <shadeslayer> cjae: there's an option in Display
[06:24] <shadeslayer> System Settings > Display and Monitor
[06:24] <shadeslayer> set the config as you want
[06:24] <shadeslayer> and then click save as default at the bottom
[06:42] <cjae> doesnt hold
[07:23] <jiwan> hey, why my ubuntu too slow after entering password?
[08:48] <shadeslayer> cjae: odd, please report a bug on bugs.kde.org then
[08:48] <shadeslayer> oh
[08:48] <shadeslayer> you could try the new kscreen stuff
[08:48] <shadeslayer> though I don't think we have packages for it yet
[08:49] <cjae> going to replace randr?
[08:49] <shadeslayer> heh no
[08:49] <shadeslayer> it probably uses randr as its backend
[08:49] <cjae> front end
[08:49] <cjae> ohok
[08:49] <shadeslayer> cjae: http://www.afiestas.org/screen-management-got-magic/
[08:50] <shadeslayer> you'll have to compile it yourself I'm afraid
[08:51] <cjae> shadeslayer: looks cool
[08:51] <shadeslayer> :)
[08:52] <cjae> thnaks
[08:52] <shadeslayer> yeah, I read about this 2-3 hours ago
[13:28] <fanzi> hi
[13:32] <fanzi> what are you doing?
[13:32] <fanzi> i am from China.
[13:32] <fanzi> and you ?
[13:32] <fanzi> nice to meet you in this chat room
[13:32] <Tm_T> I'm from the wonderland of IRC
[13:33] <fanzi> hi ..
[13:33] <Tm_T> fanzi: and welcome to our support channel, please use #kubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:46] <MySystem> hello I am searching for a tool to copy all files and sub folders from one place to another but i don’t want to touch the files like time stamp change and the files content must be compared after and it would be really nice if a unreadable files doesn’t stop the copy process but lists this one in a log
[14:46] <MySystem> i dont know for what to search and writting a script would be much work hope there is a programm
[14:48] <MySystem> oh and it must handle many files (a few million)
[14:49] <LordOfTime> rsync.,
[14:49] <LordOfTime> its command line, but...
[14:50] <MySystem> really i know it but not much
[14:50] <MySystem> ok i go reading man page
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> i think there's an option to keep timestamps and permissions
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> and i think it can compare for changes
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> and update.
[14:54] <TheLordOfTime> i don't remember all its commandline options though
[14:56] <MySystem> i actually see a very long options summary and also rest man page i think its possible but first have to read all
[15:16] <MySystem> lord i have nearly all options but i dont find something like ignore read errors
[15:16] <MySystem> the only thing i find is --ignore-errors delete even if there are I/O errors
[15:26] <MySystem> das anybody know if it is possible to use the rsync --timeout=10 option to skip file which cant be read (for some filesystem error reasons)
[15:35] <Tenvarwen> hi all
[15:37] <TheLordOfTime> MySystem, if you're getting I/O errors its likely you've got damaged data on the drive, i think it'll skip eventually... but...
[15:37] <Tenvarwen> i'm having trouble with kde and open gl i believe its a nvidia noveau problem
[15:39] <MySystem> but ....?
[15:40] <Tenvarwen> i'm new to kuntu and not sure where to get the info i need to get right hareware driver
[15:40] <Tenvarwen> errr kubuntu
[15:41] <Tenvarwen> and hardware
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, kmenu>apps>system >additional drivers
[15:43] <Tenvarwen> hmm says no propietary drivers installed
[15:44] <Tenvarwen> err says not ine acually
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, does the Gui give any choices?
[15:45] <Tenvarwen> errrrr not in use
[15:45] <Tenvarwen> gnome or kde
[15:46] <Tenvarwen> the additioal driver app has no options listed
[15:49] <Tenvarwen> i can use nvidia's hardware scanner if i get jre installed but never did a manual plugin install before
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, which nvidia driver?
[15:53] <Tenvarwen> manual mean's using terminal to edit
[15:54] <Tenvarwen> haven't leraned how to find that out yet
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, the nvidia-current driver will most likely work with your card if the nouveau driver is giving you the effectsts you want etc
[15:55] <Tenvarwen> but my system is a compaq presario r3000 amd 32bit
[15:56] <Tenvarwen> kde gl drivers crash when logging in to kde
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, open a termninal , type or copy and pastr , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:56] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[15:58] <Tenvarwen> runing install
[15:59] <mihu> Hi. I installed Kubuntu 12.10 to a new harddisk. After all was working fine, I attached my old hard disk to my system again. My old system used full encryption using LVM and dm-crypt. When I login to KDE, I am asked for the password for the old harddisk, but after a short time it complains that it cannot mount the disk. I can see that under /dev/mapper/ the correct entries are present and a simple "mount /dev/mapper/foo /mnt/" lets
[15:59] <mihu> me mount the disk just fine. I have no idea where to add that kind of information, so that it's done automatically after login. Any ideas?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, to find you graphics card , lspci | grtep VGA , in the terminal
[16:00] <BluesKaj> oops , correctio . lspci | grep VGA
[16:01] <Tenvarwen> still running install
[16:03] <BluesKaj> mihu, do you see the attached disk in dolphin "places"?
[16:04] <mihu> BluesKaj: Nope. As I said, it asks for the password and then succeeds setting up the mappings under /dev/mapper/. But it fails to do the resulting mount, perhaps because it does not know where to mount it. When I do a manual "mount /dev/mapper/foo /mnt" all is well.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> mihu, you could do an fdissk -l to fine the /dev/sdX designation , the sudo blkid and add the disk to /etc/fstab
[16:04] <BluesKaj> err fdisk -l
[16:05] <Tenvarwen> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] (rev a3)
[16:07] <Tenvarwen> i like konsole better than terminal
[16:07] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen: Then you'll love yakuake.
[16:08] <BluesKaj> konsole and terminal are the same
[16:08] <Tenvarwen> does it allow for click and paste?
[16:09] <Tenvarwen> terminal doesnt allow c/p
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok when I talk about the terminal I mean the "konsole" on the desktop , not the tty
[16:10] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen:  Yakuake is a drop-down konsole (like the ~ drop down console in Quake).  Use F12.
[16:11] <Tenvarwen> will try it later thks
[16:14] <Tenvarwen> BluesKaj it installed the  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current should i relog in or do total reboot
[16:15] <BluesKaj> reboot
[16:15] <Tenvarwen> k be back soon
[16:15] <DarthFrog> You should run nvidia-xconfig first.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, it doesn't always help , the nvidia-xconfig file has been buggy lately , best to just reboot first
[16:18] <BluesKaj> if it reboots successfully then then run nvidia-xconfig
[16:18] <BluesKaj> in the tty
[16:18] <DarthFrog> OK, but he'll not be running the new nvidia drivers upon the reboot.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> he should be
[16:19] <DarthFrog> ?  how?  If xorg.conf isn't properly written?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> xorg-conf is no longer needed
[16:20] <BluesKaj> in some cases ppl run si=uccessfully without it
[16:20] <DarthFrog> For the proprietary nvidia driver?  Really?  That's news to me.
[16:20] <BluesKaj> eer in most cases actaually
[16:21] <BluesKaj> I am
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !xorg.conf
[16:24] <BluesKaj> it's still valid if you need it , just isn't installed by default anymore
[16:26] <DarthFrog> So how do you get X to use nvidia instead of nouveau?
[16:26] <DarthFrog> or nv?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> installing nvidia-current is supposed to make nouveau the 2nd choice in the modprobe.d file afaik
[16:27] <DarthFrog> I have nvidia-experimental installed. :-)  I'll have to check that out.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> but you may right about Tenvarwen , because he hasn't returned :(
[16:29] <DarthFrog> Ah, it blacklists all other nv, nouveau & nvidia drivers, in /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf.   It turns nouveau off there, too.
[16:30] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  Thanks for that, I learned something new.  it's a good day when you learn something new.  :-)
[16:31] <Guest5298>  /msg NickServ identify mickray97
[16:32] <BluesKaj> well , the nvidia drivers are still on shaky ground in some ways , the xorg.conf file issue should be solved soon I hope
[16:32] <yofel> Guest5298: a) change your nickserv password, b) always do this in the server tab so this doesn't happen ;)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> Guest5298, do that in the server textbox not here
[16:32] <Guest5298> ahh so oops
[16:33] <yofel> last time jockey still created a xorg.conf for the nvidia drivers so it's actually used
[16:33] <yofel> but if you just apt-get install nvidia-current you should still get VESA in the worst case
[16:33] <Guest5298> ok well where is the server text box
[16:34] <yofel> Guest5298: the window where the server welcome message is in etc.
[16:34] <BluesKaj> the freenode tab
[16:34] <DarthFrog> Where the tab says "Ubuntu IRC".  At least, it does on my client (konversation).
[16:36] <BluesKaj> brb . change drives
[16:36] <Tenvarwen>  /msg NickServ identify mickray97
[16:37] <Tenvarwen> bahh did it again
[16:37] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen:  You did it again! :-)
[16:37] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen:  Don't use mickray97 anymore, it's now compromised.
[16:37] <Tenvarwen> i loaded the channel before i finished typing
[16:38] <DarthFrog> What IRC client are you using?
[16:38] <Tenvarwen> wouldn't let me chane till i logged in
[16:38] <Tenvarwen> err change
[16:38] <Tenvarwen> quassel
[16:39] <DarthFrog> I'm using konversation and it automatically logs me into nickserv.
[16:41] <Tenvarwen> i think quassel does also i just haven't set i up yet
[16:42] <DarthFrog> You now have motivation to do so. :-)
[16:45] <BluesKaj> been trying arch-linux ...don't see what's so wonderful about it ...seems ok so far, but the chats are fuil of juvey-style conversation
[16:45] <mihu> BluesKaj: Sorry, I have been afk for a moment. Yes, I tried to add it to /etc/fstab and it works, but then I have to enter the password at boot time or select to skip. I like when it's done after login though, so I can cancel it with a click or simply ignore it.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> just because one has to cli commands to istall it
[16:45] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  I've not tried Arch yet.
[16:46] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: It seems to be the flavour of the month, though.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> mihu, there 's a command to get rid of that notification at the boot screen ..but Ican't recall what it is atm
[16:47] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  All the cool kids are using it.  Which is reason enough for me to stick with Kubuntu. :-)
[16:47] <Tenvarwen> i haven't used irc in so long i forgot how to chane the pass
[16:47] <Tenvarwen> errr change
[16:48] <DarthFrog>   /msg Nickserv help
[16:48] <mihu> BluesKaj: Hm, I think I could add "noauto" option. Perhaps this help.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog,  the command line install obviously makes them feel superior somehow :)
[16:49] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj:  You install once in the life of a distro.   But you use it daily.  I don't care about the installer.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> there's nothing special about arch , it's just bit different in it's package management and permissions , that's all
[16:50] <DarthFrog> Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are niche distros for the cliques.  But I'm far more impressed with what Canonical is doing with Ubuntu.
[16:50] <Tenvarwen> is nickserv down?
[16:50] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen:  No.
[16:51] <BluesKaj> nickserv help works here
[16:51] <Tenvarwen> keeps tellin me not available
[16:52] <Tenvarwen>  /msg NickServ help
[16:52] <Tenvarwen> right?
[16:52] <DarthFrog> The "/" has to be in the first character field.
[16:52] <bazhang> Tenvarwen, help in #freenode
[17:08] <Tenvarwen> i think thats got it
[17:08] <Tenvarwen> well any way thks blueskaj no crashing now
[17:10] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, good to hear , all desktop effects and OpenGL working ?
[17:10] <Tenvarwen> still says to get the right updated driver though
[17:10] <Tenvarwen> yes
[17:11] <Tenvarwen> errr the manufactures driver that is
[17:11] <BluesKaj> your package manager , Tenvarwen?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> says
[17:12] <Tenvarwen>  yes
[17:13] <Tenvarwen>  but when i go to nvidia whats me to install jre
[17:13] <BluesKaj> turn the  notifier off in the package manager , it's always behind the curve
[17:13] <Tenvarwen> but then i didn't know hardware model ready
[17:14] <Tenvarwen> ahh i don't really need then?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen, use sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get upgrade, in the konsole , every few days
[17:15] <Scunizi> good morning all.. I've got kmail setup to sync with Gmail (imap) and it appears to do that but none of the email appears in my folders.. =
[17:15] <Scunizi> solutions?
[17:20] <Tenvarwen> so that will isure it looks for the latest udated driver etc?
[17:21] <Tenvarwen> err insure
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ten the latest updated driver isn't always the "best" driver , altho it's an option ..those commands will update the the driver in use
[17:24] <BluesKaj> Tenvarwen,^
[17:25] <Tenvarwen> if my brother printer is network capable can i use mylinux client to print to it even though he runs micro$crap
[17:25] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen: Probably.
[17:26] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen:  if he's shared it on the network, you can use the smb printing protocol.  The "Add Printer" dialog will help you browse for it.
[17:26] <Tenvarwen> his printers are really good but he's afraid of linux
[17:27] <DarthFrog> Afraid?  What's he afraid of?   Put a LiveCD in his system.  :-)
[17:28] <Tenvarwen> took me two years to convice him to use firefox instead of ie
[17:31] <Tenvarwen> he just gave me this laptop with win8 on it immediately wiped aninstall ubuntu for the first time
[17:32] <Tenvarwen> usually use the mandrake
[17:32] <DarthFrog> You went from RPM to DEB. :-)
[17:32] <DarthFrog> RPM has gotten a lot better over the years.
[17:33] <Tenvarwen> oh wait its called mandriva now
[17:33] <Tenvarwen> whats the difference
[17:34] <Tenvarwen> err i mean between rpm and deb
[17:34] <DarthFrog> Two different package managers.  Debian based distros use DEB packages.  Red Hat based distros use RPM (ie. RedHat Package Manager).
[17:35] <Tenvarwen> so deb uses tar.gz verses .RPM
[17:36] <DarthFrog> You can convert one format into the other with the alien tool, with varying degrees of lack of success.
[17:36] <DarthFrog> Tenvarwen: Not tar.gz, ar.  And RPM uses cpio.
[17:37] <DarthFrog> The archiver used is trivial.  The metadata is significant.
[17:38] <Tenvarwen> so red hat packages are closer to windows type installers?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> Nowadays, there's little technical reason to prefer one over the other, both are good.
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Not really.  They both do the same thing (RPM & DEB).
[17:40] <Tenvarwen> but unless you use the alien tool rpm won't work in kubuntu
[17:40] <DarthFrog> My advice is not to use alien.  Find the DEB package instead.
[17:41] <Tenvarwen> sound like the smart way to go
[17:41] <Tenvarwen> brb ebay is calling
[17:45] <Tenvarwen> just sold my tandy 1000:)
[17:51] <Tenvarwen> any good games or apps that i can use to test the opengl drivers?
[17:52] <phiscribe> glgears pops into mind
[17:52] <phiscribe> glxgears that is
[17:52] <Tenvarwen> app or game?
[17:53] <phiscribe> its an app.  its probably installed.  type glxgears.  will give your framerate
[17:53] <Tenvarwen> is installed
[17:54] <phiscribe> its just a test app to see if basics are working.  a starting point
[17:54] <Tenvarwen> run in konsole?
[17:54] <phiscribe> launch it there is fine
[17:56] <Tenvarwen> ran it how long does it take ?
[17:57] <phiscribe> it just gives you a FPS dispaly.  nothing more.  so you can kill it whenever.  if your getting good FPS its an indicator things are working
[17:58] <Tenvarwen> where do i find the output
[17:58] <phiscribe> it should be a numerical count in the program itself.
[17:58] <phiscribe> sounds like you want a benchmark
[17:59] <phiscribe> maybe the phoronix test suite or something
[17:59] <phiscribe> i thinkk it includes opengl benchmarks
[18:00] <Tenvarwen> will get it
[18:01] <Tenvarwen> can i get it at muon?
[18:02] <Scunizi> Is it unusual for the 32bit live cd to take 5+ minutes to boot?
[18:03] <Scunizi> It took me that long just to get to the "Try" or "Install" screen..
[18:06] <phiscribe> Scunizi, ive encountered that too.  not sure why.  thought it may have improved when i disconnected the tone of usb devices preboot
[18:06] <phiscribe> ton
[18:07] <Scunizi> phiscribe: I thought of that too.. not much there.. I"m actually using the cd and gddrescue to clone a failing windows drive..
[18:09] <phiscribe> i just took it as inherently slow.
[18:10] <Tenvarwen> is .tar the copressed form of .ar ?
[18:10] <Tenvarwen> errr compressed
[18:13] <phiscribe> no.  it is from the time when storage was on reels of magnetic tape.  Tape ARchive.   TAR
[18:14] <Tenvarwen> ahh
[18:15] <Tenvarwen> what is pts/apache-1.5.0
[18:15] <Tenvarwen> y
[18:16] <phiscribe> some kinda benchmarking for apache web server, not sure
[18:17] <Tenvarwen> ahh so i don't need that test
[18:20] <Tenvarwen> takes a while to run these huh?
[18:24] <Tenvarwen> anyone using open bios
[18:26] <usr> hi
[18:26] <Tenvarwen> hi there
[18:26] <usr> sup ?
[18:27] <Tenvarwen> running benchmarks on my pc
[18:29] <Tenvarwen> C-Ray 1.1:  pts/c-ray-1.1.0 is a moniter test?
[18:31] <SIR_Taco> Tenvarwen: ray tracing I do believe
[18:33] <Tenvarwen> To Install: pts/c-ray-1.1.0
[18:33] <Tenvarwen>     To Install: pts/ramspeed-1.4.0
[18:33] <Tenvarwen>     To Install: pts/postmark-1.0.0
[18:33] <Tenvarwen> these will test gl?
[18:35] <SIR_Taco> Tenvarwen: read (in a web browser): file:///usr/share/doc/phoronix-test-suite/phoronix-test-suite.html#VirtualTestSuites
[18:36] <Tenvarwen> thanks!!!
[18:37] <SIR_Taco> Tenvarwen: actually  you may want to start with: file:///usr/share/doc/phoronix-test-suite/phoronix-test-suite.html#GettingStarted
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[18:52] <Tenvarwen> ahh in pdf instead of html
[19:44] <Threadcore> https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/551719_478335785541000_649448130_n.jpg
[19:44] <Threadcore> lol wie dumm ist die
[19:44] <Threadcore> stellt sowas auf fb
[20:08] <sly_> Hallo
[20:49] <RetributionLSR> who loves ssh?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> ssh is a good tool
[20:52] <BluesKaj> RetributionLSR,, have a problem with ssh ?
[20:54] <RetributionLSR> no no. just saying I LOVE IT! :-)
[20:54] <RetributionLSR> oh and sshfs too :-)
[20:55] <RetributionLSR> I never have trouble, regular pro here....
[20:55] <RetributionLSR> been running linux over 10 years. love every aspect! :-)
[20:55] <RetributionLSR> how a computer should be!
[21:30] <RetributionLSR> no one else share this love?
[21:31] <Tm_T> sure (:
[21:32] <Tm_T> this is not a chit chat channel though, try #kubuntu-offtopic instead?
[21:32] <BluesKaj> RetributionLSR, that's an offtopic subject , we can discuss it ar #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:33] <RetributionLSR> pretty sure my love for ssh is not off topic. It's a major enjoyment in my daily kubuntu experience!
[21:33] <RetributionLSR> not sure what you are talking about
[21:34] <RetributionLSR> but next time maybe don't assume?
[21:35] <RetributionLSR> asking if anyone else shares this passion is not off topic, I could make this into a bigger topic should you like
[21:37] <BluesKaj> RetributionLSR, this is a kubuntu support chat , not a general chat about our love of linux
[21:38] <RetributionLSR> That is just it! I'm here to support SSH because I love it so much!
[21:38] <RetributionLSR> :-)
[21:38] <RetributionLSR> thanks!
[21:39] <RetributionLSR> well, that could boil over into samba and a few others... apache, mysql, php, some java. man I love this stuff
[21:39] <RetributionLSR> dont kill the love man
[21:40] <RetributionLSR> you'll loose a good supporter
[21:40] <RetributionLSR> well to help others that is
[21:40] <RetributionLSR> don't be rude
[22:56] <thelionroars> has anyone tried wayland?
[23:12] <dbrom> hello all
[23:12] <dbrom> have a question on multi monitors on 12.10