[00:00] <[snake]> oh. well, I am trying to install "liberte linux"
[00:00] <KeyboardNotFound> is there any plugin for weather display on desktop or task bar ?
[00:00] <ikonia> [snake]: we ran tests through the command line and nautils to see if one did it and the other didn't, both did
[00:00] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: ok let me try
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> faryshta: or you can copy the deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives    then you can use apt-get and it should use the cache :)
[00:00] <bkc_> ikonia: you're saying that FUbuntu actually removed support for executing stuff from an externally mounted drive? as security?? o.O
[00:00] <[snake]> ikonia, I see hm... I guess I will need to do the windows setup.bat then
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: FUbuntu ?
[00:01] <bkc_> Ubuntu ;)
[00:01] <bkc_> wrong channel and so forth :P
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: no more/less than what I said
[00:01] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: ok I will try that one too. Thanks
[00:01] <ikonia> bkc_: someone had this problem a few days ago
[00:01] <bkc_> aah
[00:01] <fearphage> iceroot: can i provide any other output to help you debug?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: there is fuduntu
[00:02] <bkc_> ikonia: I'm guessing vfat/ntfs there too :P
[00:02] <ikonia> bkc_: the tests / results didn't change when we used gui/shell, fat/ntgs/ext3 or 4
[00:02] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: ^.^
[00:02] <ikonia> on all occasions the execute bit was removed
[00:02] <bkc_> ikonia: that sounds retarded (not that I'm surprised)
[00:02] <ikonia> please hold back on that word
[00:02] <ikonia> bkc_: it was quite a surprise, I wondered if it was apamour, or something like that, but couldn't find any reference to it
[00:03] <ikonia> it was most frustrating
[00:03] <ikonia> i've not had chance to try it myself locally and do some more research
[00:03] <KeyboardNotFound> is there any plugin for display weather on desktop ?
[00:04] <bkc_> KeyboardNotFound: depends on window manager (gnome, kde, xfce) :)
[00:04] <bkc_> (ooh, almost forgot unity)
[00:04] <KeyboardNotFound> my window manager is xfce
[00:05] <[snake]> KeyboardNotFound, lol, keyboard not detected: press any key to continue.
[00:05] <bkc_> [snake]: press F2 to continue ;)
[00:05] <[snake]> lol
[00:07] <Bob_Dole> So, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iMac, but the optical drive is busted, and it won't boot (successfully) boot from MBR/BIOS-Based installers. It's also an older iMac with 32bit EFI, so the 64bit EFI bootloaders on the 64bit images don't work either, is there any way to get 32bit ubuntu with a 32bit EFI bootloader?
[00:08] <bkc_> Bob_Dole: Disk Utility can modify the image to be EFI-bootable :)
[00:08] <bkc_> then you'll need a 32bit EFI bootloader :)
[00:08] <bkc_> (rEFIt or rEFInd)
[00:08] <freshstart> if i store all my packages into a cd with APTonCD, can i add more packages to the future?
[00:08] <FUZxxl> Hello!
[00:08] <bkc_> I've also heard good things about gummiboot :)
[00:09] <bkc_> freshstart: need more info, single/multi-session CD? multiple CDs? add more to an existing ISO before burning it?
[00:09] <bkc_> etc.
[00:09] <bkc_> FUZxxl: o/
[00:10] <freshstart> bkc_: single cd, add more after burn it
[00:11] <bkc_> freshstart: make it multi-session when you burn it. or don't close the session (now google the rest ^.^)
[00:11] <[snake]> I'm sad :( perhaps something like cp -keep-permissions -recursive -v or soemthing?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Bob_Dole: I can't help you now but I may be able to later today or tomorrow. Also try #grub.
[00:12] <bkc_> [snake]: what are you trying to do? :)
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc_: why you mean by multi-session?
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc: do
[00:12] <bkc_> freshstart: google multi-session CD :)
[00:12] <freshstart> bkc_: google isnt my friend now i divorced with him :D
[00:13] <[snake]> bkc_, I'm trying to install liberte linux, and they do it a lot differently than most.
[00:13] <freshstart> bkc_: with it :D whatever
[00:13] <[snake]> (trying to install onto a usb
[00:13] <bkc_> [snake]: different?
[00:14] <freshstart> bkc_: okay wish me luck :D
[00:14] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> hello
[00:14] <freshstart> bkc_: good ofc
[00:14] <bkc_> [snake]: 1) tar --keep-permissions ... 2) move/copy tar 3) untar --keep-permissions 5) profit
[00:14] <bkc_> freshstart: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=multi-session+cd
[00:14]  * freshstart takes the risk :D
[00:15] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> whats the name of the non related ubuntu channel ?
[00:15] <[snake]> bkc_, what you have to do, is format the drive, copy the "liberte" folder onto the drive which you want to install to, and then on windows run setup.bat, and on linux: setup.sh. but setup.sh cannot be executable. no wonder the readme only says to use the .bat
[00:15] <freshstart> bkc_: haha :D
[00:15] <[snake]> bkc_, well that is an interesting solution
[00:15] <[snake]> I think I'll try it.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> HOBOTOMTOMGPS: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##cafe-ubuntu
[00:15] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> thank u
[00:15] <bkc_> freshstart: LMGTFY <3 ;)
[00:15] <freshstart> bkc_: yeah i didnt knew that
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> HOBOTOMTOMGPS: or #fedora and so forth ;)
[00:16] <freshstart> bkc_: okay then play a song for me http://elgoog.im/guitar/
[00:16] <jrib> bkc_: 4) ???
[00:17] <[snake]> I think rsync is good for copying files and keeping permissions
[00:17] <freshstart> bkc_: i forgot i have dvd+r
[00:18] <bjrohan> Hey all, I have a new laptop with Windoze 8, and 12.10 dual boot. It works quite well. There are only a few times that I need to use Windows 8 to help others with issues. Is this a case where using a virtual machine would be appropriate? i have never run one before, how does it work?
[00:18] <davidokner> Hi!
[00:18] <freshstart> davidokner: hi
[00:18] <jrib> !virtualize | bjrohan
[00:18] <jrib> bjrohan: depends on what you do in windows
[00:18] <bkc_> freshstart: same thing there, multi-session DVD :)
[00:18] <bkc_> freshstart: or just don't close the session :)
[00:19] <jrib> !virtualizer | bjrohan
[00:19] <davidokner> I'm looking for Ubuntu Laptops for under $400.
[00:19] <davidokner> I saw the Dell Vostro 2520.
[00:19] <freshstart> bkc_: but i have dvd+r this doesnt support the burning twice does it?
[00:19] <davidokner> Are there problems with the Dell Vostro 2520 wireless?
[00:19] <bjrohan> jrib: Not much, literally I started my laptop, shut it down got into bios changed settings loaded Ubuntu on. W I typically just use it to do webinars, my company uses join.me, and it won't run in Linux (although I suppose I could install wine, but on my previous laptop wine ran slow)
[00:20] <bkc_> freshstart: sure it does, just that you can't burn over the stuff that is already on there :/
[00:20] <bkc_> freshstart: but you can still add to it, IF you either use multi-session or don't close the session!!
[00:20] <bkc_> (not angry ;P)
[00:20] <bjrohan> jrib: My last computer I only had Ubuntu, with a windows desktop for backup I used maybe 2x/month
[00:20] <jrib> bjrohan: well it seems like if you can decent performance in wine or in a virtualized windows install for what you do, that would be more convenient.  Give it a try and see
[00:20] <[snake]> dangit
[00:20] <freshstart> bkc_: get it
[00:21] <[snake]> it still doesn't work. I OWN MY FLASHDRIVE!!!
[00:21] <[snake]> oh wait
[00:21] <[snake]> i forgot to repartition it lol
[00:21] <bkc_> [snake]: first of... ext2-4 or vfat? :P
[00:21] <bkc_> or! just chmod 0755 start.sh !
[00:21] <[snake]> i think probably ext3
[00:21] <[snake]> oh
[00:22] <bkc_> sets the exec-bit :)
[00:22] <bkc_> or chmod o+x start.sh (Owner add eXec)
[00:22] <bjrohan> jrib: I would think it would run quick enough. What are the benefits of a VM? My understanding is it lets you run the entire other OS in a Ubuntu app window.
[00:22] <[snake]> nope bkc_
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: or:  chmod +x filename
[00:22] <jrib> bjrohan: the benefit is you don't need to reboot :)  Your understanding is correct
[00:23] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: sure, but that sets it globally (ugw)
[00:23] <[snake]> I think I give up. I will just sneak into my sisters room and run the bat instead lol.
[00:23] <bkc_> (0755 does that too, but meeh)
[00:23] <bkc_> lol
[00:23] <crk> hi, I'm using XChat on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, in the Gnome Classic (no effects) Login Session
[00:24] <crk> does anyone know how one might minimize XChat to the tray?
[00:24] <usr13> bjrohan: Benefits are that both OS's are running at the same time.
[00:24] <bkc_> crk: in the settings for XChat?
[00:24] <[snake]> crk, I assumed the tray was eternally ruined.
[00:24] <crk> bkc_: It used to go into the tray automagically in LXDE (Earlier using Lubuntu)
[00:24] <crk> now it isn't
[00:24] <d1gital> any recommendation for a tiny secure vpn (any protocol) client?
[00:24] <bkc_> riight, Unity doesn't have a tray ?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> crk: doesn't the system tray need adding in gnome-panel ?
[00:25] <bjrohan> jrib: Once I install the VM, then install the O/S via the VM, the start up of the O/S is about the same as starting the computer? or is it considerably quicker? What is necessary to install Windoze 8 in a virtual machine? Lastly, what in your opinion is the best program to use for a virtual machine? VMware, Qemu etc?
[00:25] <crk> bkc_: I'm not sure... I'm avoiding Unity like the plague
[00:25] <crk> I'm using the fallback mode
[00:25] <[snake]> crk, me too!
[00:25] <bkc_> d1gital: openvpn?
[00:25] <crk> for my own sanity
[00:25] <bkc_> d1gital: define "tiny" :)
[00:25] <[snake]> :P
[00:25] <crk> [snake]: aren't we all :D
[00:25] <bkc_> crk: hehe, i3-wm here :)
[00:25] <[snake]> crk, nah some people like it :P
[00:25] <const_antine> Is there any reason why external hdd with usb interface would not be mistaken for usb flash drive?
[00:26] <crk> I wonder...
[00:26] <const_antine> on the OS side
[00:26] <crk> It might be good for people out for some eye candy
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> crk: if you like the Gnome2 smell, I recommend XFCE
[00:26] <crk> but when you want pure functionality
[00:26] <crk> ActionParsnip: I like XFCE
[00:26] <crk> I've used it in the past
[00:26] <crk> trouble is, I have a dual screen setup
[00:26] <crk> nVidia TwinView
[00:26] <bkc_> const_antine: nope, same usb-driver/interface...
[00:26] <d1gital> bkc_: <1MB, openvpn is too big.
[00:26] <crk> the only Ubuntu flavour that seems to work the way I want it to
[00:26] <crk> is the standard Ubuntu
[00:26] <crk> Lubuntu just didn't understand dual screens properly
[00:26] <bkc_> d1gital: why the extreme preference? :)
[00:26] <crk> lots of bugs
[00:27] <d1gital> bkc_: necessity
[00:27] <bkc_> crk: try a tiler! like i3wm, awesome & friends :)
[00:27] <crk> okay, bkc_ : I'll put it down for exploration :)
[00:27] <bkc_> crk: once you go Tiling you never go back :D
[00:28] <jrib> bjrohan: You can basically pause a virtual machine and resume from where you paused so startup time doesn't really matter.  Vbox was pretty snappy about that last time I tried.  Virtualbox seems to be fairly well-supported.  It may be the easiest to use imo.  I don't know if there's anything special you need to do for windows 8.  Maybe ask #vbox
[00:28] <jrib> !vbox | bjrohan
[00:28] <d1gital> notion ftw!
[00:28] <bkc_> d1gital: then sorry, no idea :)
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> crk: use an xorg.conf and any desktop will :)
[00:28] <moon`> how do you find out the version of a program, say I want to find out what version of wine I have, or what version of chrome I have installed via terminal?
[00:28] <crk> ActionParsnip: trust me... I know my way around conf files
[00:28] <crk> when I say LXDE was screwing things up, I really mean it
[00:28] <crk> :(
[00:28] <crk> the monitors were both working
[00:28] <crk> but the Lxpanels
[00:28] <crk> were not showing the way they should have
[00:28] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: proper dual screen setup will have separate workspaces between screens thou :)
[00:28] <scotty531> Will someone help me sort out my apache, I keep getting a 403 after adding an alias. https://gist.github.com/4393472
[00:29] <crk> if I'd full-screen a movie in VLC/mplayer
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> crk: you don't have to use lxpanel. I don't :)
[00:29] <bjrohan> Thanks jrib I will give it all a look
[00:29] <Bubo> How do I create a user on my ubuntu vps that will have specific limit only to 1 folder and can read/write files but can't execute them?
[00:29] <const_antine> Stupid Sony
[00:29] <crk> it left a layer of unused space
[00:29] <const_antine> making naive media players
[00:29] <crk> ActionParsnip: I agree... nothing is un-doable on *nix
[00:29] <crk> which is why we all love it :)
[00:29] <crk> lets say I was lazy :P
[00:30] <bkc_> Bubo: could you explain that more detailed? :)
[00:30] <crk> and took the "easy" way out -- wiped out lubuntu and replaced it with ubuntu
[00:30] <Bubo> Ok, let me try
[00:30] <crk> moon`: how about dpkg-query -l | grep wine
[00:30] <crk> should give you the version details
[00:31] <Bubo> I need to create a user that my friends can use to learn "terminal" and "ftp (PSFTP)"
[00:31] <moon`> okay, this may sound stupid crk but can you explain to me what each part of that command means?
[00:31] <Bubo> So they should have access to 1 folder with that user, can use: mkdir, cd, vi, touch but they can't execute scripts (for example)
[00:31] <bkc_> Bubo: just create a regular user :)
[00:31] <Bubo> With a regular user, they can mess up my server, can't they?
[00:31] <Bubo> If some of them is more experienced
[00:31] <bkc_> Bubo: don't give him sudo-access, otherwise he can mess stuff up :)
[00:32] <Bubo> Ok then, I'll do that.
[00:32] <Bubo> Thanks
[00:32] <bkc_> well... he can always mess it up...
[00:32] <bkc_> as simple as writing :(){:()&:()} in a terminal...
[00:32] <Bubo> They can use SSH to connect - several people on 1 account?
[00:32] <crk> moon`: would it be okay to PM you and explain? spare others who know it already?
[00:32] <bkc_> DON'T!
[00:32] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: hi again with the repository adding thing.
[00:32] <bkc_> Bubo: yes
[00:32] <moon`> crk: absolutely
[00:32] <Bubo> What is :(){:()&:()}
[00:32] <faryshta> ActionParsnip: it didn't worked, the folders are not being readed properly
[00:32] <bkc_> Bubo: don't do it... fork-bomb :P
[00:33] <Bubo> Ok xD
[00:33] <Bubo> bkc_, so how do I put more restrictions on that user? Like they can only access /home/user nothing else
[00:33] <bkc_> basically forks the process into a new process that calls itself recursivelly :)
[00:33] <somsip> !danger
[00:33] <bkc_> somsip: thanks :)
[00:33] <const_antine> "Some USB devices may not work with this
[00:33] <const_antine> player.
[00:33] <const_antine> " -- Sony SMP-N200 manual
[00:34] <const_antine> gods are cruel
[00:34] <Bubo> bkc_, so how do I put more restrictions on that user? Like they can only access /home/user and nothing else.. any idea?
[00:34] <somsip> !chroot | Bubo
[00:34] <bkc_> Bubo: you can run 'chmod -R w-rwx /' and hope to god that doesn't break anything :P
[00:34] <somsip> Bubo: ignore that - wrong one
[00:34] <bkc_> indeed
[00:34] <bkc_> !chmod
[00:35] <Bubo> So change the folder permission to read and write but not execute
[00:35] <Bubo> ?
[00:35] <bkc_> w-rwx == World remove Read,Write,eXecute-flags
[00:35] <studious> Bubo: remove that user from all groups, create a new group to which only that user is a member of
[00:35] <cjae> playdeb dead or still broken
[00:36] <Bubo> studious I will try that
[00:36] <bkc_> Bubo: do what studious said, more sane and less breakage :P
[00:36] <scotty531> Will someone help me sort out my apache, I keep getting a 403 after adding an alias. https://gist.github.com/4393472
[00:37] <ti89breh> hi, I would like to make this arrangement: current hard drive partition layout: [Unallowicated-500gb] a then a big partition with these in it: [[ubuntu-60gb] [ubuntu swap]] and i want to do this: [ubuntu] [unallowacated] [ubuntu swap]. will splitting up the swap and main ubuntu partition from inside the ligical partition (i thinks that's what its called) damage anything?
[00:38] <ti89breh> and then i will extend the ubuntu main partition to consume the unallowacted space
[00:38] <kvothetech> now
[00:38] <kvothetech> no
[00:39] <kvothetech> you can do that though you may want to use lvm of
[00:39] <kvothetech> or gpt not MBR
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> scotty531: is the folder executable?
[00:39] <scotty531> yes
[00:39] <usr13> ti89breh: I suggest, swap 8G, / 30G, and the rest for /home
[00:40] <ti89breh> usr13: sorry?
[00:40] <usr13> ti89breh: (whether inside an extended partition or not)
[00:40] <kvothetech> ti89breh: my answer was to you
[00:40] <ti89breh> ohh ok kvothetech so no harm done then?
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> scotty531: what is the output of:  ls -la /media/scotty531/60B885E9B885BDD2 | head -n 2
[00:41] <kvothetech> no though like I said may want to look at got
[00:41] <ti89breh> usr13: so ubuntu makes the swap and the main ubuntu partition inside a thing called a extended partition, not a logical parition, and it's ok to break up the swap from the main one
[00:41] <kvothetech> yes
[00:41] <kvothetech> you can do that
[00:41] <usr13> ti89breh: As you can see, there are a number of options, it just depends on your usage, (what you want to do with your PC).
[00:41] <scotty531> ActionParsnip: total 109
[00:41] <scotty531> drwx------  1 scotty531 scotty531  4096 Dec 27 22:47 .
[00:42] <ti89breh> i am very sorry i am confused
[00:42] <ti89breh> i want everything on one partition
[00:42] <freshstart> how can i see the mounted drives in dolphin?
[00:42] <usr13> ti89breh: These are all separate partitions, (no patter if they are inside an extended or logical parition or if they are primarys).
[00:43] <usr13> ti89breh: Why do  you want everything on one partition?
[00:43] <ti89breh> usr13: ohh ok great thanks a ton so i can manipulate them and their position does not matter
[00:43] <ezio> i'm running find but it's only finding exact matches
[00:43] <ezio> anyone know what i'm doing wrong?
[00:44] <ezio> find -iname *.gp
[00:44] <ti89breh> usr13: i am out of space and I want to extend into unallowacted but I can't do so backwards (to the right) so I need to move the partition then extend left
[00:44] <usr13> ti89breh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[00:44] <usr13> ti89breh: What do you have now?  sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[00:44] <PJSingh5000> ezio, try find -name "*.gp*
[00:45] <ezio> ah thanks
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ezio: or:  sudo updatedb; locate *.gp*
[00:45] <usr13> ti89breh: Probably the easiest/best thing to do is create a new partition for /home/
[00:45] <ezio> ActionParsnip, i want to check mounted drives too
[00:46] <usr13> ti89breh: ... and let /  have the old one.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ezio: i believe locate will check that, unless told not to
[00:46] <alcapraw1> exit
[00:47] <ti89breh> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/gMYWR.jpg
[00:47] <usr13> ti89breh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:49] <ti89breh> usr13: so all of /home's files is on another partition?
[00:49] <usr13> ti89breh: Just use the 385G partition for /home/   See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[00:49] <usr13> ti89breh: yes
[00:49] <ti89breh> oh ok and not the last link but the one before it is the instructions for that usr13 ?
[00:50] <davidokner> Is the dell 2520 the best ubuntu laptop under $400?
[00:50] <ti89breh> will my current option work though usr13 ?
[00:50] <usr13> ti89breh: Yea, I'm sorry:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[00:50] <usr13> ti89breh:     yea     this one   ^^^^^
[00:51] <ti89breh> ok and will my pending operations be successful though ? I think I will take your suggestion though seems easy enough
[00:52] <usr13> ti89breh: Sure
[00:52] <lorddelta> Hi all, I'm having real bad problems with DNS going utterly whacko on my ubuntu desktop...
[00:52] <usr13> lorddelta: Why, what's it doing?
[00:52] <lorddelta> looks like I managed to get through, but would anyone be able to help me diagnose the problem?
[00:52] <ti89breh> thanks a ton usr13
[00:52] <lorddelta> usr13: kept on failing dns whenever I was running updates
[00:52] <lorddelta> or using ssl of any kind
[00:53] <usr13> lorddelta: See my PM
[00:53] <lorddelta> e.g. I would have been browsing successfully, and then poof, if anything tried to use ssl all of a sudden the dns would go down.
[00:53] <jhernando83> Hi all!
[00:54] <davidokner> What is the best Ubuntu laptop under $400?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> lorddelta: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[00:54] <usr13> lorddelta: So, what nameserver are you using?
[00:54] <bkc_> davidokner: any computer under $400...
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: there is no single best
[00:54] <jhernando83>  I wonder  if someone could lend me a hand on this. I get the following error in ubuntu 12.10
[00:54] <davidokner> I was thinking a laptop that comes with Ubuntu installed.
[00:54] <usr13> lorddelta: Yea, as   ActionParsnip suggests, use 8.8.8.8
[00:54] <davidokner> Some examples
[00:55] <davidokner> I found the Dell 2520 with intel celeron 1.7ghz for $300.
[00:55] <jhernando83> "libsteam_api.so Missing file
[00:55] <davidokner> It comes with ubuntu
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: http://linuxhcl.com/browse/search?category=2
[00:55] <bawig1> I'm having some trouble with my 12.04.1 LTS netbook. The wireless adapter keeps disapearing. One minute it works then it's gone and the device no longer shows up under 'lspci'
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: my dell Lat D420 works all out of the box :)
[00:56] <lorddelta> usr13: I'm using an internal nameserver, 192.168.2.1, I've manually got it configured in resolv.conf, since it seemed like the dns wasn't working randomly (when I started up the pc no dns worked at all, I had to dnsmasq --server 192.168.2.1
[00:56] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: have you set any custom power settings in BIOS?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> !find libsteam_api.so
[00:56] <davidokner> ActionParsnip: Lat's cost more.
[00:56] <usr13> lorddelta: So, what nameserver is 192.168.2.1 using?
[00:56] <bawig1> pragmaticenigma: not as far as I know but will double check
[00:56] <davidokner> Are celeron 1.7ghz too slow?
[00:57] <john_sc_net> hello; happy new year.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> davidokner: depends what you need the system for
[00:57] <lorddelta> usr13: not sure, but internet seems to work in the rest of the house
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> jhernando83: what application is asking for the file?
[00:57] <davidokner> ActionParsnip: I think low speed requirement, though the user likes to do video editing, but she used a slow computer before.
[00:57] <usr13> lorddelta: Ok, well, we've given our recommendation.
[00:58] <john_sc_net> i have used and programmed on linux/unix for years but never really played with ubuntu/suse flavors when it comes to sudo, or sudo is part of SElinux?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> !find libsteam_api_linux.so
[00:58] <lorddelta> looks like 68.94.156.1 and 66.72.20.40
[00:58] <bawig1> no custom power settings in the bios pragmaticenigma
[00:59] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: Does it always disappear after about the same amount of time after first booting?
[00:59] <lorddelta> usr13: I execute the command a while ago...
[00:59] <usr13> lorddelta: Well, you could check to see if both of those nameservers are up and running and operational, or, you can just switch to google's  (8.8.8.8)
[01:00] <jhernando83> Hi all!
[01:00] <usr13> lorddelta: Test:   host av.com
[01:00] <davidokner> How does Ubuntu run with 2GB RAM, better than windows 8?
[01:00] <bawig1> sometimes it is not present at all when I boot. Only the 3G adapter and the ethernet one
[01:00] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:00] <bawig1> it's quiet touch and go
[01:00] <davidokner> usr13: And better than widnows 7?
[01:00] <scotty531> daviddonker: Anything is better than Windows 8
[01:00] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:01] <OerHeks> jhernando83, the steam forum has the answer > http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882966056378685345/
[01:01] <davidokner> So ubuntu needs less ram than windows.
[01:01] <usr13> davidokner: Yep
[01:01] <davidokner> usr13: Does Ubuntu use about as much ram as windows XP?
[01:01] <lorddelta> usr13: hmm...that'll work, won't I need to do that every time I boot though?
[01:01] <usr13> davidokner: Probably something in that neighborhood.
[01:02] <usr13> lorddelta: Depends on your router's config and the network preferences on your PC
[01:02] <davidokner> usr13: Dell sells a laptop with Ubuntu loaded that costs $300.
[01:02] <usr13> lorddelta: Just configure the router to give out 8.8.8.8 and nothing else.
[01:02] <usr13> davidokner: Sounds good to me  :)
[01:02] <davidokner> Is video editing compatability well with Ubuntu?
[01:03] <davidokner> I searched and found there is a video editor that is not skeleton model.
[01:03] <usr13> davidokner: Well, compatable to ___________?  You are off into specialize applications, (no longer comparing OS to other-OS)
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: I guess with the video camera detecting or something. For some reason some models cameras don't work with mac.
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: With iMOvie I mean. So maybe the same could happen with the popular Ubuntu video editors, I don't know if you have heard anything.
[01:04] <usr13> davidokner: Don't know much about Mac's...
[01:04] <davidokner> usr13: That is just my example.
[01:05] <davidokner> usr13: Otherwise, I would have thought every camera would work with every computer that can read files off of USB.
[01:05] <lorddelta> usr13: sure: here's another (more useful question): do you know what the default dns client system is for ubuntu? My DNS was messed up a while ago, it hasn't recieved anything correctly from the router for a while now. I've got named (which I'm using now) and dnsmasq, and a resolv.conf that I apparently need to manually clobber now...
[01:05] <davidokner> I want to reccomend this ubuntu laptop for my cousin, but she is not tech savy at all.
[01:05] <usr13> davidokner: You'll have to ask someone else.  I do very little in the way of video editing.
[01:05] <davidokner> And she lives in Mexico and needs to buy while visiting.
[01:06] <pragmaticenigma> bawig1: I'm stumpped... if you know how to check your logs, they may give you a better chance of figuring out what's going on
[01:06] <davidokner> So, I can't strand her with a non-working laptop.
[01:06] <usr13> lorddelta: dhclient I think.
[01:07] <lorddelta> usr13: ok, thank you
[01:07] <usr13> lorddelta: You only need to use valid nameservers.
[01:07] <FlowRiser> bawigl: do you have proper wi-fe drivers installed ? (from the developers website, etc)
[01:07] <moon`> god why does everything have to be such a pita in ubuntu
[01:08] <FlowRiser> moon`, it isn't we just make it so :P
[01:08] <artichoku_> a pita?
[01:08] <moon`> artichoku: google
[01:08] <geudrik> pita = pain in the _ _ _
[01:08] <usr13> lorddelta: For instance, 66.72.20.40 does not appear to be online right now (as far as I can tell)
[01:09] <moon`> Things just work in Windows though, it's like it is completely idiot proof
[01:09] <geudrik> moon`: No, that's OSX. :P
[01:09] <const_antine> Hey can I change USB device configuration that's visible on lsusb -v ?
[01:09] <FlowRiser> moon`, i like to think ubuntu isn't for dumb people
[01:09] <davidokner> I think Ubuntu all-in-one's have good potential.
[01:09] <FlowRiser> moon`, but then again, i'm using it
[01:09] <davidokner> (if the price doesn't give too high)
[01:10] <moon`> I'd like to think you wouldn't have to spend hours upon hours doing work arounds and finding patches and fixes by third party volunteers to get various software to work
[01:10] <lorddelta> usr13: dns server outage is such a rare occurence in my experience that I didn't think to check, sorry
[01:11] <FlowRiser> moon`, not everything is perfect, there are a lot of people developing for ubuntu and linux, it's normal for discrepancies to appear
[01:11] <FlowRiser> moon`, but Ubuntu is coordinated more than other free os-es
[01:13] <cjae> what is up with no znes and sn9x in repos, is it cause of 64 bit?
[01:13] <davidokner> Has anyone seen any big retail stores selling computers with Ubuntu?
[01:13] <davidokner> walk-in conveniance stores
[01:13] <bkc_> davidokner: yes, in sweden...
[01:14] <geudrik> When compiling SSHd from source, I've made a few changes and it compiles file (your basic ./configure .. make && make install) but for some reason, I can't seem to see those changes reflected. Any idea hwy that would be? Eg: the binary isn't being moved to the right place. It should be in /usr/local/sbin correct?
[01:14] <IdleOne> cjae: do you mean zsnes maybe
[01:14] <geudrik> or am I just being a derp
[01:15] <cjae> IdleOne: yes
[01:15] <bkc_> geudrik: /usr/sbin... or put /usr/local/sbin in your $PATH (remember that sudo messes with that thou)
[01:16] <IdleOne> cjae: available in repos for both 32 and 64 bit
[01:16] <bkc_> cjae: snes9x and zsnes :)
[01:16] <cjae> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=herp%20derp&defid=5774002           see number two
[01:17] <IdleOne> cjae: What does that link have to do with anything?
[01:17] <cjae> IdleOne: wasnt directed to you
[01:17] <cjae> and no they are not on my system
[01:18] <IdleOne> cjae: Doesn't matter. Not ubuntu related and it was rude of you
[01:18] <geudrik> Yep, bkc_ I'm being a derp :P Thanks for pointing that out
[01:18] <IdleOne> anyway, both zsnes and snes9x are in the ubuntu repos
[01:18] <cjae> I dont see them
[01:18] <cjae> kubuntu make a difference
[01:19] <IdleOne> hmm snes9x is not in the repos, sorry.
[01:19] <cjae> bsnes only
[01:19] <usr13> lorddelta: You'll find that 8.8.8.8  may be faster than 68.94.156.1
[01:19] <IdleOne> cjae: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, all share the same repos.
[01:19] <bkc_> always use 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 :D
[01:19] <cjae> IdleOne: thats what I thought
[01:19] <usr13> bkc_: Ok, thanks info.
[01:20] <bkc_> unless you absolutely _must_ use your standard dns...
[01:21] <cjae> IdleOne: oh I see zsnes, funny doesnt come up with just nes  I kinda wanted snes9x since I dont really like the znes ui
[01:21] <cjae> thanks
[01:23] <dr_willis> zsnes is a classic. ;)
[01:23] <cjae> see i did it again zsnes*
[01:24]  * cjae might be being a hd
[01:25] <cjae> I think the zsnes ui would be better in a stand alone machine deciated to it
[01:25] <cjae> dedicated*
[01:29] <dr_willis> zsnes in the framebuffer,  on a live cd =  fun. ;)
[01:29] <davidokner> dr_willis: how is zsnes working on Ubuntu?
[01:30] <dr_willis> Not tried it lately. for the longest time zsnes was 16bit only.  But thats changed here in the last few releases.
[01:30] <dr_willis> Im on 64bit machines/os's so havent tried it in like a year
[01:30] <Ben64> I was using it fine with 10.04 64 bit
[01:31] <ForSpareParts> Extended and Logical options are greyed out in GParted, but AFAIK I don't have any existing extended partition. Anyone know why that might happen?
[01:32] <dr_willis> How many primary partions do you have on the HD?
[01:32] <ForSpareParts> Two, I think. It's the default setup for an Ubuntu installation on a blank drive.
[01:33] <ForSpareParts> sda1 is grub, sda 2 is ext4, sda 3 is swap.
[01:33] <ForSpareParts> Does grub count?
[01:34] <ForSpareParts> Actually, to guard against idiocy., here's what I'm trying to do:
[01:34] <davidokner> I called Dell to ask which version of Ubuntu comes with their laptop and they said they don't know.
[01:34] <Laserfeet> Anyone running Ubuntu on a macbook?
[01:35] <vp18> help I can't seem to install Conky on 12.10
[01:35] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  you mnay want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[01:35] <davidokner> Laserfeet: No, but I am on my iMac, I tried to install on my macbook and it didn't work last time i tried.
[01:35] <Laserfeet> Did you use the guide that involved reFIT also?
[01:36] <dr_willis> vp18:  sudo apt-get install conky    gives any errors?
[01:36] <ForSpareParts> I have Windows 7 on one hard drive, currently disconnected. I installed Ubuntu on my new blank drive, and shrank the Ubuntu partition, sliding the swap space over. My goal is to use the newly unallocated space to create an NTFS partition that Ubuntu and Win7 can both see.
[01:36] <under> Is there anyone who speaks german?
[01:36] <vp18> i think so im not really sure
[01:37] <dr_willis> run it and look. ;)
[01:37] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/40UgnE0a
[01:37] <vp18> This what it said E:Unable to locate package conky
[01:38] <vp18> Dr.Willis do i install that transitional package in the software store?
[01:38] <dr_willis> !info conky
[01:38] <dr_willis> Transitional packagee? Its in the universe repos..  be sure you have universe enabled.
[01:38] <dr_willis> I dont use the software store. ;)
[01:39] <vp18> where do i do that at ?
[01:39] <dr_willis> !repos
[01:39] <dr_willis> theres a software-sources tool to double check.
[01:39] <dr_willis> last i tried.. conky did not work that well with unity,. ;)
[01:40] <dr_willis> well conky runs. but the default settings leave much to be desired.
[01:41] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: fdisk doesn't seem to like my  drive (GPT). Is there anything in GParted that would provide useful information?
[01:42] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  thears that parted command i recall does about the same task
[01:42] <vp18> all of my repositories are enabled
[01:42] <dr_willis> sudo parted  -l
[01:42] <ForSpareParts> http://pastebin.com/iP8w6hAh
[01:43] <dr_willis> for gpt disks - you dont want to use fdisk ;) im so old skool i never rember that
[01:44] <dr_willis> ive rarely messed with GPT either. So ive no other ideas on what needs tobe done
[01:44] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: damn.
[01:44] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: Thanks for your help, though!
[01:45] <zacarias> Hi. Is there a way of choosing a different startup disk from within Ubuntu, i.e., if I want to boot from a live cd or from another partition or hard disk, can I choose it from within Ubuntu, without having to choose it from a boot manager or similar? Like a start up disk option in the system settings?
[01:49] <cjae> yes now that I tried setting zsnes to 48000 for audio the app steadily crashes
[01:50] <ForSpareParts> dr_willis: I did a bit of searching, and it looks like on GPT disks, extended partitions aren't really a thing.
[01:50] <dr_willis> ForSpareParts:  i was thinking that also..  but wasent sure.
[01:51] <ForSpareParts> They can just have more primary partitions, apparently.
[01:51] <ForSpareParts> I'm going to try just making the NTFS partition as primary and see if anything breaks.
[01:52] <vp18> is there anything else besides conky?
[01:52] <bkc_> dr_willis, ForSpareParts: correct, GPT can have N primary partitions, hence making the need for logical/extended partitions unnecessary :)
[01:53] <bkc_> (iirc Windows can only read 128 paritions, but otherwise it's only a question of how you partition it how big N is)
[01:53] <ForSpareParts> While I'm here, another related question: Is there a way to add a standalone (non-WUBI) Ubuntu installation to my Windows boot manager? Or is there some other way to conveniently select between the two?
[01:54] <ForSpareParts> Windows was installed first and sits on a different hard drive. For the moment, I'd like it to be the default launch option.
[01:54] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: Does your bios allow you to select which harddrive to boot from?
[01:55] <bkc_> !grub | ForSpareParts
[01:55] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: Yeah, it does. I was hoping for something a little more elegant, but that would work in a pinch.
[01:56] <joes> boa noite
[01:56] <under> buona notte
[01:57] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: It's what I used to do at work... otherwise the only option you really have is to use grub.  Ubuntu will autodetect all the OSs installed and create a grub file.  There are simple ways to update the grub file to default to Windows (though sometimes you have to re-edit the file after kernel updates_
[01:57] <lime> How do I go about backing up an ubuntu installation?  Not just the home folder but /usr/share, /etc... Can I just do folder and file dump of the root directory?
[01:57] <Guest76022> tenho um wi-fi tplink tl-wn721n mas meu ubuntu nao reconhece...como insta-lo ?
[01:57] <lime> nevermind
[01:58] <pragmaticenigma> !spanish | Guest76022
[01:58] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: Will going through GRUB slow down my boot at all? The Ubuntu drive is mechanical and Windows is on an SSD. I'd like to keep my sexy boot times, if I can.
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> once it's on the Windows boot it will be as fast as normal.  The only slow down is the 3 to 10 second wait (customizable) to allow a chance to decide which OS you want to boot.
[01:59] <Guest76022> i have a wi-fi tplink tl-wn721n but the ubuntu not recogized...how install it ?
[01:59] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: See my last comment, forgot to tag you on it
[01:59] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: thanks.
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> pragmaticenigma: I'll try using the bios, if it makes me grumpy I'll shove Win7 into GRUB.
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> Thanks, everytbody for your help!
[02:00] <ForSpareParts> *everybody,
[02:01] <pragmaticenigma> ForSpareParts: I didn't like it either, but my bios was the easiest choice to avoid editing MBRs
[02:02] <Guest76022> can yu help me with wifi usb tplink tl-wn721n  ? ubuntu not recognized and i dont know what means
[02:02] <Guest76022> i try install but no sucess
[02:02] <pragmaticenigma> !repeat | Guest76022
[02:05] <fearphage> iceroot: i even combined all the output into one gist https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[02:09] <vp18> Is there analternative to conky?
[02:09] <j> hey all
[02:10] <Guest26017> im new to this chat can someone tell me how to find a room that can help me figure out sound issues
[02:11] <usr13> !sound | Guest26017
[02:12] <Guest26017> ok thank you ..ive installed ubuntu on my galaxy s3..do i look in the same forums you provided?
[02:14] <bkc_> Guest26017: try asking in #ubuntu-arm :)
[02:14] <Guest26017> thanks ....alot
[02:14] <Guest26017> #ubuntu-arm
[02:15] <pragmaticenigma> add a /join in front of that Guest26017 and your good to go!
[02:22] <Guest26017> i asked in ubuntu-arm about sound issue on galaxy s3 and received no respose. so i guess ill ask, where else can i look?
[02:22] <Karlito> hi question, what channel is linux mint?
[02:23] <Karlito> er. *linux mint support?
[02:23] <bkc_> !mint | Karlito
[02:23] <Karlito> also, general query. how can i connect a linux desktop with a vga to a tv?
[02:23] <bkc_> !arm | Guest26017
[02:24] <Guest26017> wow....thanks......and thats y i love ubuntu
[02:24] <Karlito> desktop vga to tv vga, will that work?
[02:24] <Muphrid> Karlito: yes
[02:24] <Muphrid> but you have to configure the outputs in system settings -> monitors
[02:25] <Karlito> ok
[02:25] <Karlito> how do i do that?
[02:25] <Karlito> Muphrid: btw, tnx :D
[02:25] <Karlito> i mean when i use my laptop i just plug the vga in both devices and then right click etc...
[02:25] <Bubo> How can I create text.txt in all the folders in /home/*
[02:26] <Karlito> but w/a desktop there's no extra screen to do that with...
[02:26] <Bubo> example create text.txt in /home/Folder1/ and in /home/Foler2/
[02:26] <Guest26017> i now see that my device is not supported...is there someone i can ask to make a driver for my sound
[02:26] <Bubo> just faster
[02:26] <Muphrid> Karlito: are you using mate or cinnamon?
[02:26] <Karlito> Muphrid: can i pls pm you,i'll keep it extremely brief
[02:26] <Muphrid> Karlito: ok
[02:28] <Guest26017> i gotta have sound........
[02:29] <Karlito> sorry about that Muphrid, didn't mean for my texts to double posts :P
[02:29] <usr13> Guest26017: What seems to be the problem?
[02:29] <Muphrid> Karlito: did you pm?
[02:29] <OerHeks> Guest26017 then you really should be patience in #ubuntu-arm
[02:29] <Karlito> i did but my texts kept double posting for some reason so i exited out
[02:29] <Guest26017> ok thank you
[02:29] <Muphrid> Got no messages here
[02:30] <Muphrid> Karlito: anyways, it can be either in the menu -> preferences -> monitors or system settings in the menu
[02:32] <Karlito> Muphrid: thanks
[02:32] <Karlito> :D
[02:32] <Muphrid> yw
[02:33] <Bubo> How do I set up disk quota per user in ubuntu? I want users in group 'restricted' to have only 50MB space
[02:34] <bkc_> !diskquota
[02:34] <bkc_> sorry, no bot-command for that ^.^
[02:34] <Bubo> :(
[02:34] <Bubo> Can you point me in the right direction bkc_? Or help me do it? :D
[02:35] <bkc_> w8 a sec
[02:35] <pragmaticenigma> I don't think there is an easy way for a group ... just a per user basis
[02:36] <pragmaticenigma> The per user can be setup in the main user management tool, under the advanced settings area
[02:36] <bkc_> setquota -g :)
[02:36] <bkc_> actually :P
[02:36] <bkc_> http://abhishek.nagar.me/blogs/user-group-disk-quotas-three-step-guide
[02:36] <bkc_> gobby plz, command line <3
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> well there ya go
[02:37] <pragmaticenigma> !setquota
[02:38] <bkc_> sorry, edquota
[02:38] <Bubo> I am on a vps pragmaticenigma
[02:38] <bkc_> !edquota
[02:38] <Bubo> I'll try http://abhishek.nagar.me/blogs/user-group-disk-quotas-three-step-guide
[02:38] <Bubo> thanks bkc_
[02:38] <bkc_> Bubo: sure, they should have shell-access somewhere :)
[02:38] <hero616> I know how to switch to text console using hot key, but how to do it using command line?
[02:38] <bkc_> hero616: ?
[02:39] <d4rkh4nd> Need some help with kdialog --password, i dont see any info on how you can call this password later or its real use
[02:39] <Montanha> her616: like "Ctrl + Alt + F1" from console ?
[02:39] <hero616> yes
[02:39] <dr_willis> cant sayive ever seen alt-ctrl-f1 from a command...
[02:40] <bkc_> actually issuing a tty-change with a command? humm...
[02:40] <hero616> bkc: how about the details?
[02:41] <bkc_> gimme a sec as I actually have no F'n clue :)
[02:41] <bkc_> not really something one does normally :)
[02:41] <d4rkh4nd> Anyone use kdialog --password that can help me please.
[02:41] <bkc_> hero616: chvt
[02:41] <hero616> OK, thanks:)
[02:42] <Montanha> yeah
[02:42] <Montanha> chvt Number
[02:42] <JBobUbuntu> Hey I am new to Ubuntu. I got a refurbished server for christmas and I am attempting to install Ubuntu server 12.04 on it. I am having some issues that the documentation doesn't talk about. Anyone able to help me with it?
[02:43] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: shoot
[02:43] <bkc_> or rather
[02:43] <bkc_> !ask | JBobUbuntu
[02:44] <JBobUbuntu> It is a dell poweredge 1950. When it boots up I play the disc in and tell it to boot off the disc but it acts as though there is not a disc in the drive.
[02:44] <JBobUbuntu> Am I missing a step?
[02:44] <Corey> JBobUbuntu: Is the drive showing up in BIOS?
[02:45] <JBobUbuntu> yes it shows up as a CD Rom
[02:45] <JBobUbuntu> its a Dvd Rom if that matters at all
[02:45] <bkc_> doesn't matter :)
[02:45] <lvleph> How do I remove the catalyst driver (compiled) and switch back to the open source driver?
[02:46] <chiggins> how would i go about "uninstalling" an network interface? aka, I don't want ubuntu to detect the onboard wifi interface I have on my laptop
[02:46] <dr_willis> JBobUbuntu:  how did you make the cd?
[02:46] <dr_willis> chiggins:  unload the module and blacklist it. would be one way
[02:46] <Montanha> lvleph In the System Preferences >> Software Channel >> Additional software
[02:46] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: I'm guessing it's a 32bit CPU right? do you use the correct CD? :)
[02:46] <JBobUbuntu> Astroburn. Burned the Iso onto a cd/dvd room drive
[02:47] <JBobUbuntu> let me check I don't remember I thought it was a 64bit but I could be wrong
[02:47] <lvleph> Montanha: Nothing else special need be done?
[02:47] <Montanha> lvleph You just change the open source driver and apply
[02:48] <lvleph> ok
[02:48] <Montanha> lvleph I think it's just that
[02:48] <JBobUbuntu> They are Xeon 2Ghz Dual Core Processors
[02:49] <JBobUbuntu> Bios says 64bit
[02:49] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: then it should boot :/
[02:49] <lvleph> Montanha: Only the proprietary drivers show up.
[02:49] <bkc_> JBobUbuntu: did you try the cd in a "normal" computer?
[02:50] <JBobUbuntu> yeah with this laptop I am on
[02:50] <Bubo> To enable disk quota in certain partition just add "usrquota,grpquota" to that partition in your fstab you need root privileges to do this of course.
[02:50] <Bubo> how do I do this?
[02:50] <JBobUbuntu> well I never actually tried installing ubuntu I just checked the cd to see if the information was there
[02:50] <bkc_> Bubo: not sure on a vps :/
[02:51] <Bubo> Ahh
[02:51] <JBobUbuntu> its possible I downloaded the 32bit version by mistake I will try redownloading the 64bit and burning etc se if that changes things
[02:51] <JBobUbuntu> thanks for the help
[02:51] <ti89breh> hello
[02:52] <chiggins> dr_willis: any quick way to see which module is being used for my wifi? besides going through the list
[02:53] <dr_willis> chiggins:  research your card i guess.. I just look at the lsmod output and figure it out.
[02:53] <Bubo> How can I see the currently logged in FTP users?
[02:54] <crk> Bubo: which FTP server?
[02:54] <lvleph> Why is the open source ati driver not showing up in additional drivers? All I see are the proprietary drivers.
[02:54] <Montanha> lvleph: that's unexpected, let me google something
[02:54] <crk> Bubo: proftpd has a tool that does that... but I can't remember its name
[02:54] <Bubo> crk I don't really know, the one I got from my VPS. How do I find it out?
[02:54] <crk> um...
[02:54] <lvleph> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]
[02:54] <ti89breh> hi does anyone know how I can become login to my username in terminal from a guest account in ubuntu?
[02:55] <crk> if you're on the machine that's running the FTP, you should get a handle on what FTP daemon's running
[02:55] <crk> by scanning the processes
[02:55] <crk> maybe : ps aux | grep ftp
[02:55] <crk> should give you some results
[02:55] <Bubo> It gave me the users logged in on the ftp
[02:55] <Bubo> lol
[02:55] <Bubo> :D
[02:55] <crk> :D
[02:55] <Bubo> Filip    10344  0.0  0.0   2080   848 ?        SNs  06:13   0:00 /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[02:56] <Bubo> nice one, thanks crk
[02:56] <FloodBot1> Bubo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <Montanha> lvleph: there is no "Using X.Org..." in the drivers list ?
[02:57] <lvleph> There are only the FGLRX proprietary drivers listed
[02:57] <lvleph> two of them
[02:57] <ti89breh> I am unable to access my account because I tried moving /home to another partition and now it says that it can't mount /home. and I can't access my account to make changes. can someone please help me
[02:57] <crk> ti89breh: your description of the issue is too vague for anyone to give specific help :P
[02:58] <usr13> ti89breh: Did you edit the fstab file?
[02:58] <Montanha> lvleph: try reinstalling xorg
[02:58] <ti89breh> crk: I followed this tutorial: http://www.howtogeek.com/116742/how-to-create-a-separate-home-partition-after-installing-ubuntu/ and now when I boot up my computer it says it can't mount the /home directory, and so I am in a guest account now but I can't make any changes because I can't become root
[02:58] <ti89breh> usr13: yes
[02:59] <Montanha> lvleph: "sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg" to remove it
[02:59] <d4rkh4nd> Anyone use kdialog --password that can help me please.
[02:59] <crk> what does the output of df -h say, ti89breh ?
[02:59] <Montanha> lvleph: and "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" to install it
[02:59] <crk> could you paste.ubuntu.com it
[02:59] <crk> for us to see
[02:59] <usr13> ti89breh: You're going to have to boot recovery mode and see where you went wrong.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[02:59] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can always use the rescue/recovery mode. or a live cd to fix things
[02:59] <ti89breh> crk: http://pastebin.com/htRFYvrd
[03:00] <Montanha> lvleph: and finally "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" would configure it
[03:00] <ti89breh> usr13: and dr_willis i was in it but when I do nano /ect/fstab a blank file comes up
[03:00] <usr13> ti89breh: /dev/sda3 is your new /home partition?
[03:00] <ti89breh> I think it was because my username was root and not my real username that I use called clinic1
[03:01] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  if /etc/fstab on you rinstalled system is totally blank.. you either spelt it wrong.. or did a MAJOR mess up
[03:01] <crk> ti89breh: like they said, a live-cd environment, or the rescue option is what you need to go for
[03:01] <usr13> ti89breh: etc not ect
[03:01] <ti89breh> usr13: yes
[03:01] <crk> and correct whatever you've mucked up in /etc/fstab
[03:01] <Montanha> lvleph: let me know if it worked
[03:01] <lvleph> Montanha: still only see the prop drivers
[03:01] <Bubo> is there a way to send an announcement or something like that to all connected users on the server?
[03:01] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can use a text based irc client to get to here from the consoles. :) if you need more detailed help from the rescue enviroment
[03:02] <ti89breh> crk: I made a backup
[03:02] <dr_willis> Bubo:  what server are you refering to?
[03:02] <psusi> Bubo, if they are connected with telnet or ssh, wall will
[03:02] <Bubo> ubuntu
[03:02] <Bubo> vps
[03:02] <Bubo> SSH psusi
[03:02] <ti89breh> dr_willis: won't irssi take up the whole screen?
[03:02] <dr_willis> Bubo:  theres DOZENS of types of services.. ;)
[03:02] <crk> dr_willis: he's got some sftp server thing running
[03:02] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  this is why you use screen. or the other consoles...
[03:02] <Bubo> crk no, I am talking about SSH ocnnected users
[03:02] <ti89breh> ??
[03:02] <crk> how about wall ?
[03:02] <crk> wall <message>
[03:02] <Bubo> Works, thanks
[03:03] <crk> should broadcast it to everyone logged in
[03:03] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 for consoles...
[03:03] <ti89breh> ok I will reboot thank you
[03:03] <bkc_> Bubo: shutdown -h now "Bye Bye now :)"
[03:03] <Bubo> :D
[03:03] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  or instaall screen. and learn it. :)
[03:03] <Bubo> I am not that big beginner
[03:03] <usr13> ti89breh: You are going to end up with UUID=????????   /home    ext3 ...... in the /etc/fstab file, (not /media/home )
[03:04] <Montanha> lvleph: are you using 32 or 64 bits ?
[03:04] <bkc_> Bubo: or shutdown -h 10min "You huys have 10 minutes to wrap it up, 'key? :P" :3
[03:04] <Bubo> usage: wall [file]
[03:04] <crk> Bubo: wall is the way to go
[03:04] <ti89breh> usr13: I copied it right from the tutorial but changed the uuid
[03:04] <d4rkh4nd> Need some help with kdialog --password, i dont see any info on how you can call this password later or its real use
[03:04] <ti89breh> usr13:     UUID=UUID HERE    /home     ext4     nodev,nosuid     0     2
[03:04] <lvleph> Montanha: Linux Media-PC 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:04] <Bubo> wall text text text doesn't work
[03:04] <Bubo> gives me usage: wall [file]
[03:05] <usr13> ti89breh: We would need to see the fstab file  and the output of blkid
[03:05] <Montanha> lvleph: try this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 xserver-xorg-core"
[03:05] <usr13> ti89breh: Otherwise, we can't give any specific advise
[03:05] <crk> ti89breh: you may have missed something... a minor syntax error, or maybe a few characters of the UUID
[03:05] <ti89breh> usr13: http://pastebin.com/PRuMVgH3
[03:05] <ti89breh> crk: can I change it from a guest account?
[03:06] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you could login at the console and try to fix stuff
[03:06] <crk> if you have the root user enabled... yes
[03:06] <Montanha> lvleph: and again "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to configure it
[03:06] <ti89breh> I think so I am not sure
[03:06] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  thats not the default setup. ;)
[03:06] <usr13> ti89breh: Ok good.  We'd also need to see the /etc/fstab file, and output of sudo fdisk -l
[03:06] <ti89breh> dr_willis: sorry?
[03:07] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  by default root user is not enabled.. and guest user cant sudo to root.
[03:07] <crk> ti89breh: why don't you boot from your Ubuntu install cd/dvd and make the required changes
[03:07] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  try the console and see if you can login as your user.
[03:07] <ti89breh> I don't have my install medium
[03:07] <lvleph> Montanha: same result
[03:07] <dr_willis> then you can alt-ctrl-f1 and alt-ctrl-f7 back and forth from the console to X.
[03:07] <crk> ti89breh: as dr_willis says... I don't see why a console login as your user (Clininchwatever) should fail...
[03:07] <ti89breh> ok I can use gparted live cd I think
[03:08] <dr_willis> It should report that home is not there or somthing like that.
[03:08] <ti89breh> crk dr_willis how can I login as a different user?
[03:08] <DouglasK> In 12.10, smbfs is no longer a package, but it seems related to cifs.  Where is the documentation on mounting smb shares at the prompt?
[03:08] <crk> yeah... aside from that error, it should still log you in
[03:08] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you login at the console AS your normal sudo enabled user...
[03:08]  * crk sighs
[03:08] <dr_willis> actually the guest user Might be able to 'su' or 'login' from a terminal as a user..
[03:08] <dr_willis> open a terminal and try 'su yourusername'
[03:09] <ti89breh> Unknown id: clinic1
[03:09] <crk> wtf
[03:09] <Montanha> lvleph: have you loaded the menu again ?
[03:09] <ti89breh> oh wait i got it
[03:09] <crk> you didn't run any userdel commands, did you?
[03:09] <crk> or edited /etc/passwd
[03:09] <ti89breh> crk: I did not dr_willis setgid: Operation not permitted
[03:09] <lvleph> yep Montanha
[03:09] <ti89breh> from guest consol
[03:10] <dr_willis> guest cant switch users. it seems.. did you have ssh enabled? could try toi get in that way
[03:10] <dr_willis> ssh yourusername@localhost
[03:10] <ti89breh> I don't
[03:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:10] <ti89breh> already tried :D
[03:10] <ti89breh> ok live cd it is
[03:10] <usr13> dr_willis: He can
[03:10] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  OR USE THE CONSOLE....
[03:10] <dr_willis> no need for a live cd then
[03:11] <dr_willis> and you can jump back and forth to here.
[03:11] <ti89breh> btw guys dr_willis crk and usr13 I appriciate the help so much and can't thank you enough and I can't use consol it's very confusing to switch windows and use irc and
[03:11] <usr13> ti89breh: Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> hitting alt-ctrl-f1 and f7 is confuseing?
[03:11] <Montanha> lvleph: trying to find a solution on Google, that's really unexpected
[03:11] <usr13> ti89breh: Ctrl-Alt-F6  to go to console, Alt-right-arrow to go back to tty7 (the GUI).
[03:12] <ti89breh> GOT IT! dr_willis and usr13 I thought you ment from recovery I got it now
[03:12] <dr_willis> or alt-ctrl-f7 (i think)  F1 through F6 are consoles.. F7 is the GUI
[03:12] <ti89breh> ok I got into consol ok
[03:12] <usr13> ti89breh: dr_willis I always use tty6, (it's right next door).
[03:13] <ti89breh> http://imgur.com/22G9d
[03:14] <ti89breh> oops i can retake that
[03:14] <dr_willis> ti89breh:  you can use the pastebinit command from the console to pastebin text files..
[03:14] <dr_willis> and you could even use a console based irc client if needed
[03:15] <ti89breh> dr_willis: like pastebinit nano /etc/fstab ?
[03:15] <usr13> ti89breh:  blkid |pastebinit
[03:15] <ti89breh> ah
[03:15] <usr13> ti89breh: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[03:15] <Montanha> lvleph: try "sudo apt-get update" and open the additional drivers again
[03:15] <villu> hiiiiiiiiii
[03:15] <dr_willis> think about the commands you are doing. ;)    pastebinit nano  sort of makes no sence
[03:16] <artichoku> ok i have a question. i know i can do an export command to temporarily use a proxy in terminal
[03:16] <ti89breh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1471620/
[03:16] <usr13> artichoku: Use a proxy?
[03:16] <artichoku> is there any way to permanently set up a proxy to use for outgoing connections in the terminal
[03:16] <lvleph> Montanha: trying the updated radeon provided by the x-updates ppa, so it will be a moment.
[03:17] <Montanha> lvleph: ok, no problems
[03:17] <artichoku> !proxy
[03:17] <usr13> ti89breh: Change UUID=cbbdf00d-0809-49bd-aa12-923540923d07/jordan  to  UUID=cbbdf00d-0809-49bd-aa12-923540923d07
[03:17] <artichoku> ok that's not the info i wanted you to get usr13
[03:18] <lvleph> still only the proprietary drivers showing Montanha.
[03:18] <lvleph> this is driving me nuts
[03:18] <Montanha> lvleph: It is starting to drive me nuts too
[03:19] <lvleph> I am going to reboot and see what happens. Crossing my fingers
[03:19] <Montanha> lvleph: Ok
[03:19] <ti89breh> usr13: thanks I will restart. If it works thanks a ton really thank you all so much dr_willis and crk and everyone you guys are great helping people out for free
[03:19] <usr13> NP
[03:19] <docmur> what is the syntax to dump the ip address from a known mac add, I set a static ip on a embedded board but forgot it and my router doesn't see it, I have the mac
[03:20] <usr13> Wait... free?  Are we really doing this for free?  I thought I was supposed to get a check in the mail!
[03:20] <usr13> :)
[03:21] <usr13> ... sorry, couldn't resist ....
[03:22] <lvleph> Montanha: still only the prop
[03:23] <crk> usr13: hehe :P
[03:24] <Montanha> lvleph: Which version are you using ?
[03:24] <lvleph> 12.6
[03:25] <Montanha> lvleph: I mean, Ubuntu version
[03:25] <lvleph> 12.04
[03:25] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. installed from dvd and usb? wiped hdds clean, new raid partition (0 for test).. what i am doing wrong? someone help please? it gets to the 92% and then errors out.
[03:27] <lvleph> pianotips: did you check the dvd for errors?
[03:27] <pianotips> yes
[03:27] <Bubo> How do I limit access to a user in a specified directory with sftp ?
[03:27] <Montanha> lvleph: try this "sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle"
[03:27] <lvleph> I had this and I ended up rebooting and it worked pianotips
[03:28] <pianotips> i did an intergerty test, a cheksum, a write test...
[03:28] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue
[03:28] <Montanha> lvleph: and then "sudo apt-get update" and check the additional drivers page, I hope not it will work
[03:29] <pianotips> it worked? on a reboot? then reinstall?
[03:29] <lvleph> no reconfigure Montanha
[03:29] <Montanha> lvleph: what ?
[03:29] <lvleph> pianotips: yeah, reboot and tried install again and it worked
[03:29] <lvleph> dpkg-reconfigure Montanha ?
[03:30] <lvleph> I guess it doesn't need it when you just installed right?
[03:30] <Montanha> lvleph: I think it is not needed this time
[03:30] <pianotips> lvleph ill give it a try
[03:30] <pianotips> brb
[03:30] <yeats> pianotips: see bug cannot install the kernel into  the target system kernel package 'linux-server'
[03:30] <yeats> pianotips: sorry bug cannot install the kernel into  the target system kernel package 'linux-server'
[03:30]  * yeats blushes
[03:31] <yeats> trying to paste a bug number, sorry
[03:31] <DouglasK> If I want to run official nvidia drivers, where do I get them?
[03:31] <yeats> bug 367486
[03:31] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue. Is there a solution to rectify this problem?
[03:32] <hero616> from official website of nvidia.
[03:32] <Tech-1> im not sure, but, i dont think linux has a solutuion for that yet
[03:32] <usr13> DouglasK: Nvidia.com
[03:32] <DouglasK> thanks
[03:32] <TomyLobo> hi. unzip <filename> mangles extended characters. how do i fix that?
[03:33] <TomyLobo> they might be mangled inside the zip already
[03:33] <TomyLobo> (made it on windows with winrar)
[03:34] <TomyLobo> Ark and midnight commander show questions marks
[03:35] <lvleph> still no Montanha
[03:35] <Montanha> lvleph: Now, I am not sure if Ubuntu 12.04 shows the Open Source driver
[03:35] <lvleph> it should
[03:35] <lvleph> let me read something
[03:40] <JAIME> how do i download linux live usb creator??? its not in software manager!!
[03:41] <chocka> I installed ubuntu 12.10 in my new windows 8 laptop. But I get the following error: secure boot image failed to verify with *access denied* press any key to continue. Is there a solution to rectify this problem? I have to change the BIOS>secure boot each time to boot either windows 8 or ubuntu
[03:41] <Montanha> lvleph: Do you have synaptic installed ?
[03:41] <xangua> JAIME: it is installed
[03:41] <lvleph> I found this Montanha and am finishing up right now
[03:42] <JAIME> no i dont seem to have it!!
[03:42] <lvleph> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:42] <xangua> JAIME: just typed 'usb' in the dash and appeared
[03:45] <mikehaas763> Hello, please let me know if there is a better channel for this. I have a mx 5500 mouse/keyboard combo. I have it connected through a bluetooth usb receiver as bluetooth devices. However I'm trying to get my media keys to work. xev does not show any input. How can I capture the raw data for my special media keys?
[03:45] <lvleph> Montanha: even that method still has me on the proprietary driver
[03:45] <lvleph> this makes no sense
[03:46] <Montanha> lvleph: Try this "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati"
[03:47] <lvleph> already installed
[03:47] <Montanha> lvleph: Or maybe "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all" to install all drivers
[03:47] <Montanha> strange
[03:47] <Tech-1> or maybe ?
[03:47] <Montanha> sorry
[03:48] <lvleph> If it wouldn't be such a pain I would just do a fresh install of 12.04.
[03:48] <wting> How do I get the volume keys working on my Latitude E6500? (Ubuntu 12.04.1)
[03:48] <Montanha> I am doing my best with the language...
[03:48] <lvleph> But then I would have to set up apache again
[03:49] <lvleph> If I spoke portugeuse...
[03:49] <TomyLobo> convmv solved my zip encoding problem :)
[03:49] <Montanha> haha
[03:49] <Montanha> No problems man, I think you can understand me, and I can understand you, that's perfect
[03:50] <lvleph> Well, I guess I am stuck with this buggy driver. My wife has just been driving me crazy asking me to kill things and reboot, etc.
[03:51] <wting> My laptop's volume keys are captured by xev and I can set them in Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts. However when I try using them they don't work. Anybody have ideas?
[03:51] <sshmetro> ls
[03:51] <sshmetro> WHOOPS
[03:52] <Montanha> lvleph: Well, the bug is stronger than me...
[03:52] <Muphrid> lvleph: "Additional Drivers" only lists the proprietary drivers, the open source one is included in xorg
[03:53] <lvleph> but, I can't seem to get it to stop using the prop drivers
[03:53] <Muphrid> if xserver-xorg-video-ati (i think thats the name) is installed all you had to do is uninstall the proprietary one and it should fallback to the x driver
[03:54] <Muphrid> have*
[03:57] <lvleph> Well that is interesting my plymouth theme is now working
[03:57] <lvleph> lol
[03:58] <Bubo> hown user:sftp -R test
[03:58] <Bubo> what will this do?
[03:58] <Bubo> +c*
[03:58] <lvleph> it will change ownership of test and its subdirectories
[03:58] <blargg> When I mount an HFS+ volume, files are owned by user #501. How do I mount it and force all files to be owned by user #1000 so my Ubuntu user can access them? This doesn't affect the user ID of files: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[03:59] <lvleph> the new owner will be user and the group will be sftp Bubo
[03:59] <Muphrid> lvleph: is it solved?
[03:59] <Muphrid> if plymouth is working then youre using the free driver
[03:59] <lvleph> Muphrid and Montanha finally got it to use the open source drivers.
[04:00] <lvleph> yep
[04:00] <Bubo> How do I change only to its subdirectories? not Test
[04:00] <Montanha> nice
[04:00] <lvleph> try test/* Bubo
[04:00] <Bubo> ok thanks
[04:01] <lvleph> but that is almost the exact same thing
[04:01] <lvleph> why would you want to do that?
[04:01] <MishaX2> I have a question for you everyone here...
[04:02] <Septima> it must be impossible for everyone to answer you!
[04:02] <Septima> especially if you don't give a question...
[04:02] <MishaX2> Why are people acting so ungrateful if you help them here on ubuntu or ubuntuforums askubuntu
[04:02] <lvleph> people feel entitled? You have no face?
[04:02] <OerHeks> MishaX2, most of them are gratefull
[04:02] <blargg> Should I repeat my question?
[04:02] <mike024> !ask MishaX2
[04:03] <Septima> lol
[04:03] <lvleph> blargg: ?
[04:03] <blargg> When I mount an HFS+ volume, files are owned by user #501. How do I mount it and force all files to be owned by user #1000 so my Ubuntu user can access them? This doesn't affect the user ID of files: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[04:03] <mike024> !ask | MishaX2
[04:03] <MishaX2> ok...
[04:03] <MishaX2> I get your point
[04:03] <OerHeks> MishaX2, some of them are gratefull, but do not understand confirmation is nice
[04:04] <blargg> Or alternately, how can I force the permissions for everyone (last octet) to be 7 for all files?
[04:04] <blargg> I take it that umask is ANDed with the permissions, thus it's only useful for *clearing* permission bits, not setting them.
[04:04] <lvleph> hmm
[04:05] <lvleph> well you could run chmod -R
[04:05] <blargg> It's read-only
[04:05] <lvleph> but I doubt that is what you want
[04:05] <lvleph> good point
[04:06] <blargg> Well, I'm thinking it's either something you've encountered and know the exact answer to, or we're just in the dark. Or maybe there's no way to force permissions :(
[04:07] <lvleph> blargg: maybe this will help?
[04:07] <lvleph> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=HFS%2B_Partitions
[04:07] <blargg> lvleph, heh, I read that one already in my search :)
[04:07] <lvleph> figured
[04:08] <blargg> Well, people talked of creating a new user #501 so it could access the files. I'm going to try that.
[04:08] <lvleph> The only other thing is not a good solution; copy the entire partition
[04:08] <lvleph> how do you give a user a particular number?
[04:12] <erncic> lvleph: add --uid ID to the adduser command
[04:13] <lvleph> thanks erncic
[04:13] <joshua342532453> does any one know a way to use a xbox 260 controller with linux
[04:14] <poop> please dont hurt me
[04:17] <Tech-1> stop asking forit
[04:18] <davidhurwich> i have a user error tech question, can i ask it here?
[04:19] <Tech-1> shoot
[04:19] <davidhurwich> so i have 12-4 Ubuntu
[04:19] <davidhurwich> I'm trying to use terminal to switch to root to install konqueror
[04:19] <mns> How do I upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 ?
[04:19] <davidhurwich> but when i run su root and put in my admin password it keeps getting rejected
[04:20] <bobweaver> mns,  are you sure you want to do that ?
[04:20] <matrixfoxtard> sudo su
[04:20] <Muphrid> !root
[04:20] <bobweaver> !root | davidhurwich
[04:21] <davidhurwich> i see
[04:21] <bobweaver> davidhurwich,  can you not sun     sudo apt-get install <package name >
[04:21] <davidhurwich> is this an ubuntu branch of linux type thing?
[04:21] <bobweaver> davidhurwich,  yeah
[04:21] <mns> bobweaver: ok now you've got me all wary about it.  Is there a reason not to ?
[04:21] <bobweaver> mns,  what is hardware ?
[04:21] <Muphrid> mns: really BAD support for radeonhd in case you have one
[04:22] <davidhurwich> has ubuntu always been this way, or is this a new architecture design item?
[04:22] <bobweaver> mnaser,  also what is DE that you use ?
[04:22] <mns> bobweaver: its my work laptop, ThinkPad T430
[04:22] <bobweaver> mns,  how much ram and vga ?
[04:22] <mns> Muphrid: lol .. its only got Intel for graphics.
[04:23] <bobweaver> mns,  on 12.04 do you use unity 2d at all ?
[04:23] <maslo> hi guys is there anything I can install and use to parse email mime messages ? I'd need to use it in a php script ;x  (On a virtual private server)
[04:23] <bobweaver> !postfix
[04:23] <Muphrid> mns: ok, and is there any specific reason you want to upgrade?
[04:23] <mns> bobweaver: I'm using xubuntu ... xfce.    I've got 8Gb RAM
[04:24] <maslo> I have postfix installed and I have it set up to pipe it to a php script
[04:24] <maslo> I just need to find a way to parse the mime, I have found php classes that does it and tried creating my own
[04:24] <bobweaver> Oo mns  you are fine then
[04:24] <maslo> but there's so different versions of mime
[04:24] <bobweaver> !add-apt-repository
[04:24] <davidhurwich> thanks ubottu, appreciate the help
[04:25] <bobweaver> mns,  you can upgrade with command sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:25] <mns> Muphrid: I'm new to the ubuntu world.  coming from pure debian, I'm used to running debian/testing.
[04:25] <mns> Muphrid: is there any particular reason to not do the same sort of behaviour with ubuntu/xubuntu ?
[04:26] <bobweaver> mns,  do-release-upgrade is kinda like taking and changing all the sources ist things in debian from wheezy to sid
[04:26] <bobweaver> mns,  I run unity 2d (ubuntu tv )and that is not in >= 12.10
[04:26] <mns> bobweaver: ok thanks.  I'll use that.
[04:26] <Muphrid> mns: ok, you can go to the update manager, then settings and check for "notify me of -> normal releases" do upgrade with a GUI, or do it on the console as said
[04:27] <Muphrid> mns: the main issues are hardware related, i think youre fine with that
[04:27] <mns> bobweaver: ahh they got rid of it ? I thought that was the best part of unity !
[04:28] <mns> Muphrid: ok, thanks.
[04:29] <bobweaver> mns,  lets notntalk about that I am a qml dev ;)
[04:29] <mns> lol bobweaver
[04:30] <mns> bobweaver: keep up the good work
[04:30] <bobweaver> lol thanks here is example of my work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLCVSR9VPtQ
[04:30] <mns> I'm just a simple guy .. all I need is pure X11, tiling window manager and that's it.  more keyboard oriented then mouse oriented.
[04:32] <mns> bobweaver: that is some awesome shit you've got there.  nice work.
[04:32] <mns> and the thing I notice si the Netflix icon lol
[04:32] <bobweaver> yeah you do not have netflix-esktop ?
[04:32] <bobweaver> mns, ^^ ]
[04:33] <mns> didn't even know that was there lol
[04:33] <mns> will have to search for it :)
[04:33] <bobweaver> yeah works great mns  wine-compholio
[04:33] <bobweaver> mns,  there is a ppa for it
[04:34] <mns> so its probablyu in ubuntu software center rather then via aptitude
[04:34] <mcsmash> so yeah... installed Ubuntu 12.04.1, and then 12.10 on my laptop...
[04:35] <mns> mcsmash: how did that go for you ?
[04:35] <mcsmash> My laptop not terribly happy at the moment.
[04:35] <mcsmash> *laptop's
[04:35] <bobweaver> mns,  No you have to add repo
[04:35] <mns> mcsmash: what type of laptop ?
[04:35] <Schuetrumpf2> I'm having an apt-get issue if anyone's available to answer.
[04:35] <bobweaver> Ask away Schuetrumpf2
[04:35] <mns> bobweaver: ok will find it and add it.
[04:35] <jay_why_bee> I need postfix help.  I have tested a change in a virtual machine to make postfix put all new email in ~/Mailbox.  In main.cf: home_mailbox = Mailbox.  But I cannot get my server (actual production) do do this?
[04:36] <jay_why_bee> I have tried totally purging postfix, and setting up from scratch.
[04:36] <bobweaver> mns,  http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[04:36] <Schuetrumpf2> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 server....I'm attempting to update my repos (apt-get update) and it's giving me nothing but 404 errors. When I try to visit archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, there is no maverick directory...
[04:36] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  that is because it is not supported
[04:37] <bobweaver> !eof
[04:37] <Schuetrumpf2> When did that change? It was supported last month.
[04:37] <mns> bobweaver: thanks.
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  10.10 has not been supported for a while
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  no security upgrades or anything for a while now
[04:38] <Schuetrumpf2> I installed a bunch of software through apt-get on 10.10 less than a month ago.
[04:38] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  why not move it up to 12.04 ?
[04:39] <Schuetrumpf2> Because the servers that I'm running on it run very poorly on 12.04.
[04:39] <UpgradeWoes> I've looked ALL over the Web and found no solution that worked for me.  I have tried 8 different ways to upgrade my 11.10 to 12.04, but even though the upgrade completes properly, when 12.04 boots up, it loses my ethernet card and thus my connectivity.  I'm old to networking but new to the Linux world and I cannot figure out why it recognizes my card perfectly in 11.10 and during the upgrade, but then loses it after the reboot. 
[04:39] <bobweaver> !eol | Schuetrumpf2
[04:42] <jay_why_bee> Any postfix gurus out there?
[04:42] <Schuetrumpf2> So I should only need to update my repos to use old-releases instead of archive?
[04:42] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  I would say that it is kernels doing . can you see the card ? " lspci -vnn " or  "lsusb" for usb
[04:43] <bobweaver> Schuetrumpf2,  none of that is supported around here
[04:43] <bawig1>  /part
[04:43] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I am back on 11.10 so I can't run any diagnostics now (unless I set it up in a virtual machine which is one thing I have not tried), but I recall that it did not even see eth0.
[04:44] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  even on 11.10 what is card ?
[04:45] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Here is the info...Ethernet controller [0200]: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet [1186:1002] (rev 12) 	Subsystem: D-Link System Inc Device [1186:1040] 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5 	I/O ports at a000 [size=128] 	Memory at ec000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] 	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 40010000 [disabled] [size=64K] 	Capabilities: <access denied> 	Kernel driver in use: sundan
[04:46] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  so this is how I debug networking.   1) make sure that the card is know by the kernel. (lspci -vnn) . Look though the list or filter it out.  If it si there maybe the driver is not installed right (aka mod) . use lsmod to see what drivers are installed. ok thouse are all installed and kernel sees it but no internet still . start pinging and tracerouting but by this point one should have control
[04:47] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  see the number that is in the [] for you  [1186:1002]  what happens if you http://googlubuntu.com  search that ?
[04:48] <Bubo> What is googlubuntu lol
[04:48] <bobweaver> !bug 30707 | UpgradeWoes
[04:49] <Tech-1> thats pretty old
[04:49] <bobweaver> yeah that is what I thought also
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I'm at a loss as to what that bug information means.  Sorry, but could you tell me if it's even possible to resolve?
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> ubottu: Are you saying there's a fix for this?
[04:50] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  it looks like it has been fixed.
[04:50] <UpgradeWoes> Tech-l: Yes...it's an old PC I'm trying to revive and use as a web server for a small project of mine.
[04:51] <Abhijit> hi.
[04:51] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  can you PASTEBIN the out put of lsmod  to use from this computer ?
[04:51] <Abhijit> how can i setup and use the dsl connection totally via command line? no gui? help please.
[04:52] <Abhijit> in 12.04
[04:52] <Tech-1> id prolly just buy a pci card and be done with it
[04:52] <bazhang> !wifi | Abhijit have a read
[04:52] <Abhijit> ok
[04:52] <Abhijit> bazhang, its not wireless. its wired. the dsl.
[04:53] <bazhang> Abhijit, sudo dhclient eth0
[04:53] <Abhijit> ok
[04:54] <bobweaver> PPoe
[04:54] <bobweaver> er
[04:54] <bjrohan> I am trying to run windows8 64 bit in VirtualBox and get a 64 bit error message, can anyone help?
[04:55] <artichoku> bjrohan, what's the error
[04:55] <bjrohan> VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration has been enabled, but is not operational. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.
[04:55] <bjrohan> Please ensure that you have enabled VT-x/AMD-V properly in the BIOS of your host computer.
[04:55] <artichoku> o.0
[04:56] <artichoku> not a clue sir/ma'am
[04:56] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/3pgCD7H6
[04:56] <bjrohan> ok
[04:57] <bobweaver> bjrohan,  you have gone into bios and looked around for that  ?
[04:57] <UpgradeWoes> Tech-l: I'm not sure if that PC has a PCI slot.  I know I could get an adaptor, but I'm trying to not invest into more hardware for this PC.  It doesn't even have a USB port or a DVD drive.
[04:58] <testestset> ls
[05:07] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: I am looking at the information provided by ubottu, but I don't really know what they are saying.  Am I supposed to enter that text into a file or is that a file I can download and replace?: bug 30707 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "ipg driver incorrectly loaded for D-Link DL2000 cards" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30707
[05:07] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  again it looks like it has been fixed
[05:07] <bobweaver> UpgradeWoes,  sorry kinda busy programming atm
[05:09] <UpgradeWoes> bobweaver: Thanks!
[05:10] <nodeman> hello
[05:11] <bjrohan> Alrighty then, the BIOS had a place to turn on what the error message in virtualbox told me to. Now VB warns me to turn in 32 bit display (vs default 24)
[05:36] <sam-palmisano> hi alice
[05:40] <tk__> may i ask something about dkms
[05:40] <megharsh> how can i create a local ubuntu mirror ?
[05:40] <tk__> how to use it
[05:40] <dr_willis> !dkms
[05:40] <wh0dat> when cloning hdd's with ddrescue does it not copy over the boot record as well? the new drive wont boot, but when mounting it, all the files are there.
[05:41] <dr_willis> wh0dat:  depeneds on the exact dd/ddrescue command you used. I belive. I dont recall ever using ddrescue for the mbr , Normally you ddrescue a partion, not a whole drive.
[05:42] <wh0dat> dr_willis: yeah I did the whole drive, all the partitions are there, though. guess I will just run the command to make it bootable.
[05:46] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror | megharsh
[05:50] <mns> If I'm using xubuntu, how do I swap CapsLock and Control ?
[05:50] <chocka> Guys, I have a new windows 8 laptop and I try to install ubuntu
[05:50] <chocka> but the LiveUSB is not recognized when I reboot the system
[05:52] <[1]Nate> Hi! I need some help with Ubuntu recognizing my external hard drive
[05:53] <Nightwatch> can someone help me with vsftpd.conf - trying to lock users in their home directory
[05:53] <Nightwatch> everything I read tells me to do something different
[05:54] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_local_user=YES
[05:54] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_local_user=No
[05:54] <[1]Nate> does anyone know how to get ubuntu studio to recognize my external drive? It's 3 TB
[05:55] <Nightwatch> some say chroot_list_enable=YES
[05:55] <Nightwatch> and create a list
[06:01] <[1]Nate> The brand is Toshiba, and the model number is HDWC130XK3J1
[06:01] <Ghoul_> Um, hi guys
[06:03] <Ghoul_> I need some help w/ ufw on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:03] <bazhang> Ghoul_, got gufw installed?
[06:03] <Ghoul_> just ufw
[06:03] <Ghoul_> apt-get install ufw
[06:03] <Ghoul_> Its a server running desktop ubuntu because its all my host would provide
[06:03] <bazhang> Ghoul_, gufw is the gui tool for that
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Oh, I dont have graphical
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Only ssh
[06:04] <bazhang> Ghoul_, so whats the issue
[06:04] <Ghoul_> Uh when I run ufw enable
[06:04] <Ghoul_> I get a failure on ufw init
[06:04] <Ghoul_> I took a trace
[06:04] <bazhang> !enter | Ghoul_
[06:04] <Ghoul_> http://privatepaste.com/db509c2842
[06:05] <Ghoul_> I have not changed any of the configuration files or edited any of the rules
[06:07] <dr_willis> a desktop ubuntu with ssh only? ;)
[06:08] <dr_willis> one whould be carefull with firewall rules when you can only ssh in. It would suck to lock yourself out.
[06:08] <Ghoul_> Yeah, I've done it twice already.
[06:08] <dr_willis> why do you even need any firewall?
[06:08] <Ghoul_> I made sure this time to add ufw allow ssh right after
[06:08] <Ghoul_> It's a server
[06:09] <dr_willis> and what specifically are you firewalling?
[06:11] <Ghoul_> Well, I prefer to use ufw as an easy way of configuring iptables
[06:11] <Ghoul_> I'm using the server as both a development web server and a vpn so there are alot of rules I need to configure
[06:12] <eristikophiles> so, i keep getting this "too many files open" error in terminal, and i can't run any programs generally. i can't reboot because it won't run reboot.. which is annoying; last time i rebooted and the error went away, at least until now. i still don't get exactly what the too many files open thing means though. i googled and just found random stuff
[06:12] <eristikophiles> anyone have any insights into this issue?
[06:13] <dr_willis> theres a limit i recall on the # of open files avaiable.. but i thought it was a huge number.
[06:13] <dr_willis> are you runing any services or doing anything unusual?
[06:14] <penguinman> possibly something in .bashrc if it only happens in a terminal
[06:14] <Ghoul_> Looks like the ufw bug is due to apt lag
[06:14] <Ghoul_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ufw/+bug/1065297
[06:14] <john_sc_net> i have used and programmed on linux/unix for years but never really played with ubuntu/suse flavors when it comes to sudo, or sudo is part of SElinux and not specific to ubuntu/suse? Im asking cause I did 'sudo su | passwd' and set the root pass; was able to login using putty directly to root without using non root username + sudo. However, now the root pass has changed again; i know im typing the right pass. Does ubuntu man
[06:14] <john_sc_net> ually generate the admin pass?
[06:15] <Snowie> hi all. command line mistage. wanted to move all files in sub directories into the current, had a brainfart and used $ mv ./*/* ./*
[06:15] <dr_willis> jonathaN:  use sudo to do rooty tasks in ubuntu. you dont need to set a root password.
[06:15] <john_sc_net> does suse/ubuntu randomly generate pass on boot, is what im asking
[06:15] <dr_willis> oops wront nick .:)
[06:15] <Snowie> of course, all the files and folders are now missing. anyway to recover from this?
[06:15] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  you do realize that suse is NOT related to ubuntu?
[06:15] <john_sc_net> yeah but they both have sudo
[06:15] <dr_willis> john_sc_net: :  use sudo to do rooty tasks in ubuntu. you dont need to set a root password.
[06:15] <dr_willis> lots of disrtos use sudo..
[06:16] <john_sc_net> so its part of selinux?
[06:16] <dr_willis> Not part of selinux that i am aware of.
[06:16] <cjae> How do I add snes9x that I downloaded from their website to my ubuntu system. I know the binary needs to be linked or maybe stored in /usr/bin but where do the other components of the program go?
[06:16] <dr_willis> sudo can be used on any disrto you want.
[06:16] <dr_willis> cjae:  what other parts?
[06:16] <bazhang> cjae, why not just install from repos
[06:16] <penguinman> cjae, actually, i think snes9x is available from the repos
[06:16] <cjae> its not there
[06:16] <john_sc_net> i usually have to disable selinux on centos; i need root pass. I dont run anything as root, just to configure. pain to add "sudo" to every script
[06:16] <bjrohan> Can anyone give me pointers as to how , in VirtualBox, to make the guest o/s screen bigger? I can expand the ubunutu window, but the guest desktop stays the same size
[06:17] <dr_willis> snes9x was in the repos ages ago.
[06:17] <Muphrid> cjae: there a ppa for it
[06:17] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  i would learn to get into the sudo habbit.
[06:17] <cjae> was kind of hoping to learn something as well
[06:17] <Snowie> bjrohan, i think you use the os's tools to change the resolution
[06:17] <dr_willis> you don t'need'  the root pass. you are just used to a  differnt way.
[06:18] <bjrohan> Snowie: Thanks. In the os window, it even has a scrollbar, so it is bigger, it is just not appearing bigger
[06:18] <Muphrid> cjae: ok, you can invoke it from a terminal if you put the executable in /usr/bin
[06:18] <penguinman> there's always the option to add sudo -i at the beginning of scripts that require root access.
[06:18] <bjrohan> Snowie: I will give the os display a whirl
[06:18] <Muphrid> not sure about the rest of the files
[06:18] <Muphrid> still best to open from the downloaded folder
[06:19] <john_sc_net> this is a virtualbox guest which is only triggered by dhcp and installs Windoze on the clients (requirement of IT department to run both windows and linux dual or guest/host).
[06:19] <Snowie> anyone offer any advice on recovering my files, or am i just boned?
[06:19] <john_sc_net> it boots when dhcp sees a mac address statically pooled for network boot
[06:20] <Ghoul_> Any idea where I should iptables rules for apply on boot/restart if I can't get ufw working?
[06:20] <murlidhar> err how to upgrade to 10.10 . i have downloaded the iso and made a usb start up disk . now what ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> murlidhar:  what release are you using now?
[06:20] <murlidhar> 12.04
[06:21] <murlidhar> oops i mean i want to upgrade to 12.10
[06:21] <dr_willis> You ment 12.10 :) heh...
[06:21] <murlidhar> yeah :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> if you boot the 12.10 thing . i THINK it will ask to upgrade.
[06:21] <murlidhar> na it isn't asking
[06:21] <Ghoul_> can we upgrade using apt?
[06:21] <dr_willis> could be faster to just do a clean install
[06:21] <john_sc_net> yes ghoul
[06:21] <john_sc_net> sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <murlidhar> na i don't want to lose my settings
[06:21] <dr_willis> there are specific tools to upgrade to the next release
[06:22] <murlidhar> like ?
[06:22] <dr_willis> do-release-upgrade   i belive is the command.
[06:22] <dr_willis> theres some options to upgrade to non LTS releses from a LTS release however that may be needed
[06:22] <murlidhar> but that would upgrade online only i guess
[06:22] <Ghoul_> dist-upgrade
[06:22] <Ghoul_> apt-get dist-upgrade is the command , Ithink
[06:22] <murlidhar> i have already downloaded the iso
[06:22] <dr_willis> Ghoul_:  nope.. thats not it.
[06:22] <murlidhar> and can't rely on online upgrade ( bad internet conn )
[06:22] <dr_willis> that will not upgrade to the next release.
[06:23] <Ghoul_> oops, just ran it. What does it do.
[06:23] <bjrohan> Snowie: That helped quite a bit. Not fully, but much better, thanks!
[06:23] <dr_willis> just a more intensive upgrade.
[06:23] <IdleOne> 12.04 is set to only do LTS upgrades by default, you need to Change the setting in Software Sources which can be done via the Software Center
[06:23] <dr_willis> murlidhar:  i was thinking if you just mounted the iso, it would ask you if you wanted to upgrade also.. but i rarely upgrade
[06:24] <IdleOne> do-release-upgrade won't work unless that setting is set to Normal Releases
[06:24] <Snowie> $ mv ./*/* ./*       boned or method to recover. is it possible all my data is still there just named * (as in nothing/anything/everything)?
[06:24] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[06:24] <Snowie> bjrohan, np
[06:24] <john_sc_net> i was compiling my kernels on centos for the hardware and cpu features not on by default in linux-kernel-xx.srpm; optimized for cpu. Using ubuntu as a VM guest, I shouldnt compile or set any specific options to tell ubuntu its "sharing" resources, for optimization?
[06:24] <murlidhar> dr_willis:  yes by default it should ask. i remember last time it happened
[06:24] <murlidhar> but this time i dont know why it isn't asking :|
[06:24] <murlidhar> thanks for the link though
[06:24] <murlidhar> will read it
[06:25] <john_sc_net> oh whats the development packages on apt-get?
[06:26] <Ghoul_> Is there a way to downgrade iptables?
[06:26] <malkauns> where can u get the latest compiz?
[06:26] <dr_willis> malkauns:  from a PPA would be the safest bet.
[06:26] <malkauns> dr_willis, which ppa?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !ppa
[06:27] <Snowie> $ mv ./*/* ./*      would scalpel see and recover these files?
[06:27] <dr_willis> use the ppa search features/tools
[06:27] <eristikophiles> dr_willis- no i'm not running anything that complicated. it's only a desktop box, mostly just text-chats.
[06:28] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i would think something is running crazy if you are getting to many open files as a normal user.
[06:28] <eristikophiles> i read somewhere you can edit the number of tasks you're running but not sure whether that would actually help; i mean, that may just crash the system if i do it wrong
[06:28] <dr_willis> the default is like a very high number. ;)
[06:28] <Ben64> eristikophiles: what does "ulimit" say
[06:29] <Septima> Snowie: be worth a try
[06:29] <eristikophiles> ok so, running things through gui, i get an error from KDE saying that the file has no type= entry.. which they should, since i've been using those shortcuts for a couple years
[06:29] <dr_willis> Use the following command command to display maximum number of open file descriptors:
[06:29] <dr_willis> cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:29] <eristikophiles> i did upgrade to the newer kubuntu recently, but how that'd cause problems i don't know
[06:29] <Snowie> Septima, would you agree that other than that im boned with out full hdd recovery?
[06:29] <eristikophiles> there were no config files that were radically changed
[06:29] <Septima> Snowie: probably, without backups
[06:29] <dr_willis> what newer kernel?
[06:29] <Snowie> Septima, thanks mate. will give that a go.
[06:30] <eristikophiles> Ben64- it says it can't open the shared object file / too many files open in system
[06:30] <eristikophiles> basically i can't run anything. including reboot.
[06:30] <eristikophiles> ..i know i could hard-boot, but i'd prefer to stay on irc and such for now.
[06:31] <john_sc_net> ubuntu is confusing for me cause we can do /sbin/service x start;stop;restart;etc; no i havent been able to start/stop one service
[06:31] <dr_willis> i wonder how you can see whats got all the open files
[06:31] <Ben64> lsof
[06:31] <Ben64> which might not run : /
[06:31] <dr_willis> sudo service servicename start/stop/whatever
[06:32] <john_sc_net> tried that, service not found
[06:32] <Septima> why doesn't that work for iptables in ubuntu?
[06:32] <john_sc_net> the actual binary
[06:32] <eristikophiles> lsof won't run either
[06:32] <eristikophiles> it's kinda amazing the system works at all, except it's also sort of scary frustrating.
[06:32] <dr_willis> sudo service ushare start
[06:32] <Ben64> eristikophiles: you might want to reboot then come back in here
[06:32] <eristikophiles> yeah lol
[06:32] <Ben64> !reisub
[06:33] <john_sc_net> how do you search for packages with apt-get?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !apt
[06:33] <bazhang> john_sc_net, apt-cache search name
[06:33] <dr_willis> apt-cache search pattern
[06:33] <john_sc_net> cache, ok
[06:34] <eristikophiles> i'll show up on my other box so i can stay online in case something is odd
[06:36] <eristik> yeah so, exiting kde with ctrl-alt-backspace, then logging in on the F1 shell, i can do lsof
[06:36] <eristik> what was the other thing to try? i can't remember
[06:36] <dr_willis> eristik:  its possibl when you exited..it closed all the files that were open
[06:36] <eristik> maybe
[06:36] <wchan_> whats a good image viewer?  the gnome default one has horrible pixilation on ultra high resolution images down sampled on monitor
[06:37] <john_sc_net> sorry for bugging you guys; happy holidays and new year. one last question. what the hell is up with the run levels, NOTHING changes anything to type init 3-5. i cant get x server to quit starting at boot
[06:37] <eristik> i didn't remember to try F1 shell until after force-exiting kde
[06:37] <bazhang> !nox | john_sc_net
[06:37] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  ubuntu dosent really use runlevels...
[06:37] <bazhang> wchan_, check the package manager , there are a bunch
[06:37] <john_sc_net> yes but in other linux distros there's a service config binary
[06:37] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  sudo service lightdm stop    if you want to stop kdm
[06:38] <john_sc_net> ty
[06:38] <dr_willis> service command works fine here. ;)
[06:38] <fat> anybody knows how to get a GUI for encrypt/decrpt in Ubuntu using seahorse. Seams like it cannot give a clipboard to use for that purpose
[06:38] <bazhang> !runlevel | john_sc_net
[06:38] <eristik> what was the other command to try to see what files are open? i'd seen that one googling but can't remember
[06:38] <dr_willis> The upstart 'cookbook' homepage - has some very well done docs on upstart.
[06:38] <Ben64> eristik: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:38] <john_sc_net> ty
[06:38] <dr_willis> $ cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[06:38] <dr_willis> 809103
[06:39] <rabbi1> Having problem in displaying correct time in ubuntu 12.04.. I have dual boot with Windows XP. I have checked /etc/default/rcS ... under this file i have tried both UTC=yes and UTC=no. but no luck. Any suggestion ?
[06:39] <Ben64> hmm
[06:39] <dr_willis> so a user can have 800000+ files open in a single login session
[06:39] <Ben64> my system returns a higher value... 1207461
[06:39] <john_sc_net> "alias stopx='service lightdm stop'"
[06:39] <eristik> 203398
[06:39] <al3x> .
[06:39] <eristik> is that based on your ram?
[06:39] <john_sc_net> damn ubuntu
[06:39] <Ben64> i think so
[06:39] <Ben64> 12GB of ram = 1207461
[06:39] <bazhang> seahorse-nautilus   fat  you mean this?
[06:39] <eristik> yeah this box is pretty old. 2gb ram
[06:39] <dr_willis> The number of concurrently open file descriptors throughout the system can be changed via /etc/sysctl.conf file under Linux operating systems.
[06:40] <dr_willis> from what im googling. ;)
[06:40] <Ben64> but 809,103 should be fine
[06:40] <dr_willis> these sites may be out-dated
[06:40] <dr_willis> Ihave 8gb-o-ram
[06:40] <Ben64> oh
[06:40] <dr_willis> so it does seem tobe related to your ram amount
[06:40] <eristik> yeah, so, setting it too high could crash the box due to lack of ram, as i suspected
[06:40] <Ben64> eristik: how about "ulimit -n"
[06:40] <dr_willis> ive never seen anyone need to touch it. ;)
[06:41] <eristik> 1024
[06:41] <dr_willis> # ulimit -Hn
[06:41] <dr_willis> # ulimit -Sn
[06:41] <Ben64> eristik: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr
[06:41] <eristik> lsof i saved in a text file. i'd have to boot into kde to use it
[06:41] <dr_willis> hard and soft values.. :) not sure what those mean
[06:41] <rabbi1> Having problem in displaying correct time in ubuntu 12.04.. I have dual boot with Windows XP. I have checked /etc/default/rcS ... under this file i have tried both UTC=yes and UTC=no. but no luck. Any suggestion ?
[06:41] <dr_willis> eristik:  nano textfile ;)
[06:42] <eristik> -Hn is 4096 and -Sn is also 1024
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> rabbi1: have you tried using ntp to set your time instead?
[06:42] <rabbi1> aeon-ltd: no idea, suggest me how to please ...
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> !ntp
[06:43] <rabbi1> aeon-ltd: ntp? 'network on' ?
[06:44] <rabbi1> yesh, network time works good. i  used to have that always. but what if i don't have a net available ?
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> rabbi1: heh, no idea.
[06:45] <OerHeks> rabbi1, set your time correct in your bios then
[06:45] <rabbi1> OerHeks: bios? windows shows correct time
[06:45] <dr_willis> I thought if you used UTC=NO then you set your timezone to be GMT/UTC
[06:46] <rabbi1> anyway, let me check and give it a try.......  OerHeks
[06:46] <dr_willis> bios clock +- the timezone modifier.
[06:47] <rabbi1> will check on the bios and be back
[06:47] <fat> bazhang seahorse just create keys and seahorse plugins give option to encrypt/decrpt via Nautilus any files in directories. What I am looking for is to encrypt text, not files in clipcoard or some text editor. It used to be possible in GPA and then copy encypted text to your email.
[06:47] <dr_willis> I rember back in the days when PC's dident even have clocks on the MB.
[06:47] <MK`> whenever I plug in my USB headphones, I need to go into sound preferences and select it as the output so the volume controls will work with it. How can I make it so it recognizes whenever I plug in the headset?
[06:51] <eristik> so yeah.. not sure what's up. i turned it all the way off. i could edit the ulimit # then? or the file-max?
[06:51] <eristik> i'll look and see what lsof said in a minute when i boot it up
[06:51] <rabbi1> friends, I wonder how my bios time was changed all of a sudden. thanks dr_willis OerHeks
[06:51] <dr_willis> eristik:  i would guess its some service or app missbehaveing.. and doing stuff.
[06:51] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  if your mb battery is dead - it can reset the clock
[06:52] <rabbi1> dr_willis: that's the only possibility we can think of now :)  anyway, will have it checked in the next boot after shutdown ....
[06:54] <OerHeks> :-)
[06:54] <dr_willis> rabbi1:  a spider across teh terminals! ;)
[06:55] <john_sc_net> is this right for lightdm.conf in /etc/init...........and runlevel [!0123456]............ to not run on levels 0 - 6?
[06:55] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  if you dont want lightdm to run. you can either use the text option. or rename the /init/lighdm.conf to be lightdm.dontrun
[06:56] <dr_willis> ;) altering the contents of the file.. is another way
[06:56] <dr_willis> then theres like 2 other ways to disable the service.
[06:56] <john_sc_net> but is that the syntax or do i use commas between runlevels?
[06:57] <john_sc_net> i dont want to break it; i also need to conform cause other admins will administer this system
[06:58] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[06:58] <dr_willis> With Upstart 0.6.7, to stop Upstart automatically starting a job, you can either:
[06:58] <dr_willis>     Rename the job configuration file such that it does not end with ".conf".
[06:58] <dr_willis>     Edit the job configuration file and comment out the "start on" stanza using a leading '#'.
[06:59] <younis> pakistan
[06:59] <john_sc_net> hmm ubuntu is more friendly with setting environment
[06:59] <john_sc_net> :)
[06:59] <ILYG> hi guys ! how can tell me , "you need to be identified with services" what`s mean ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> 3rd way -> echo "manual" >> /etc/init/myjob.override
[07:00] <dr_willis> ;) i think theres a 4th way.. but cant find it
[07:00] <john_sc_net> im reading that  ty man
[07:00] <dr_willis> .override only works with newer upstart versions
[07:00] <dr_willis> and i still think user-defined upstart jobs are not in 12.10 *not sure about that*
[07:01] <eristikophiles> hey so, here is a pastebin of lsof: http://pastebin.com/yxqz9cKJ
[07:01] <eristikophiles> i'm not sure whether it'll really help though
[07:01] <eristikophiles> but, can i edit my file max or ulimit without breaking things, do you think?
[07:02] <eristikophiles> note: pastebin will expire
[07:02] <Kartagis> hrm, when I clicked on my program icons to make them launchers, their icon turned into question marks. any ideas?
[07:02] <Kartagis> good morning by the way
[07:02] <Mike1986> how can i get android on my android phone?
[07:03] <Mike1986> ubuntu**
[07:03] <moon`> I try to open this link http://ubuntuone.com/64OujxgkGMv1N2QSoPmXin and I get a bunch of weird symbols
[07:03] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  ive never ever managed to max out my file open limit in the many years of using linux. ;
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <Mike1986> ha
[07:03] <FloodBot1> Mike1986: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i think somthing is running crazy and doing it.. so upping the limit will be just delaying it.
[07:03] <cub> .
[07:04] <john_sc_net> dr_willis, i just dont agree with the way they're creating a service.conf in etc/inittab on that link you posted; they're using a grep script to check to see if filesystem service is up instead of using simply "start on ((filesystem......"
[07:04] <john_sc_net> loook at their startup script for logging
[07:05] <dr_willis> john_sc_net:  dosent mean much to me either way really.
[07:05] <dr_willis> eventually upstart will get replaced.. perhaps 3+ releases from now..  so im not too worried about it.
[07:06] <Ben64> I don't understand the point of upstart. It's more confusing and harder to use than init for me
[07:06] <dr_willis> that cookbook site gave info on the reasons Ben64  - its a neat read.
[07:06] <dr_willis> even if most of the problems dont affect normal users.
[07:07] <Ben64> yeah I read it a bunch to figure out my problem, just made it more confusing
[07:08] <Ben64> turns out, you need a static ip address set in /etc/network/interfaces for the dhcp server to start on boot
[07:08] <cub> OR
[07:08] <cub> you can install Windows 7 which will automatically detect ALL network informatio! :)
[07:08] <cub> information**
[07:15] <goddard> how can i use a key with nautilus?
[07:15] <Ben64> goddard: what key
[07:17] <cub> wow installing java on linux is a pain
[07:17] <cub> and they wonder why more ppl dont want to use it
[07:18] <Ben64> if you don't have a support question, bring your trolling elsewhere
[07:18] <cub> stfu you gay ass bitch
[07:19] <Ben64> no thanks
[07:23] <eristikophiles> dr_willis- well, ok. i won't change it. did you take a look at the lsof results? i can't tell if they appear normal or not. i don't tend to run that one much
[07:24] <Ben64> eristikophiles: that was from console with no gui running though, right?
[07:24] <dr_willis> eristikophiles:  i really cant see much weirdness. it could be the user causing it.. or some rogue system process..
[07:25] <Ben64> on my system, lsof prints over 6000 lines
[07:26] <dr_willis> lsof | wc -l
[07:26] <dr_willis> 36485
[07:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:26] <Ben64> ok, you win
[07:26] <dr_willis> so i could assume that i have 36000+ open  files?
[07:27] <Ben64> yep, but they aren't all "files" in the traditional sense
[07:27]  * dr_willis files that away.
[07:27] <Ben64> dr_willis: I'd have to guess based on your 36485, that you're running bittorrent
[07:28] <dr_willis> Ben64:  not really.
[07:28] <Ben64> :(
[07:28] <dr_willis> my upnp server may be doing it however.
[07:28] <dr_willis> and i am copying a lot of files from hd to hd with mc.
[07:33] <eristikophiles> Ben64- yeah it was
[07:33] <eristikophiles> sorry for the delays in response
[07:33] <eristikophiles> i have no idea what it'd be either. i mean, other than only having 2gb ram, which isn't *that* bad..
[07:33] <Ben64> I'd have to agree with it being a process or service gone crazy
[07:33] <eristikophiles> skype was giving errors, and other crap too
[07:34] <Ben64> if you keep a terminal up with htop running, and it happens again, it might shed some light onto what it is
[07:34] <eristikophiles> i'm going to run htop in the background. if it happens again, at least i'll have that letting me know things
[07:34] <eristikophiles> (it doesn't seem to effect already-running apps)
[07:35] <jiwan> why my ubuntu too slow to show the desktop while entering password?
[07:41] <dr_willis> jiwan:  You may want to rephrase that
[07:49] <eristikophiles> well, thanks for the help y'all. i'll try to mess with this again when it next occurs, see if i can get better data on it
[07:51] <Unknown0BC> Have you ever had that feeling that you are going completely insane ?
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> My evolution email client is working fine, yet when I look at the .evolution directory there is just about nothing in it.
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> I wanted to back up my evolution directory and noticed that its so small ? It suppose to be about 80 megs.
[07:52] <Unknown0BC> now its a couple of kb.
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> How is that possible ?
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> Lets run through the facts. 1) Evolution email client stores all its data in the .evolution directory found in a user's home directory.
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> true or false ?
[07:53] <slnls> evolution stores mail somewhere else iirc
[07:53] <Unknown0BC> yeah ?
[07:54] <Unknown0BC> Where I could have sworn it was the .evolution directory for years now...
[07:54] <Joe23> Hi Everyone, I am in need of some ubuntu networking advice
[07:54] <Joe23> for some reason, whenever I try adding an ip address to an interface, it just ....disappears.... after a few dozen seconds
[07:55] <Joe23> the ip address disappears, not the interface
[07:55] <slnls> Unknown0BC: why dont you just use the evolution backup-function. that is built into evolution?
[07:55] <Joe23> has anyone ever seen anything like this?
[07:55] <Joe23> or does anyone have an idea on where to look for clues?
[07:56] <Unknown0BC> slnls, maybe I just should, however this does not  make me sane again. I have been backing up evolution for years by just copying the .evolution directory. Now its virtually empty yet my evolution is fine.
[07:56] <slnls> Unknown0BC: ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/folders.db   there should be everything evolution saves. but the backup function of evolution works just fine, so use this
[07:56] <kevinlu310> Power Statistics is showing incorrect battery information. How can I correct it manually? I'm on 12.04 LTS.
[07:58]  * Unknown0BC frowns
[07:59] <Unknown0BC> I think I should not let females mess up my head.
[07:59] <txthinking> !date
[07:59] <Unknown0BC> But they are so sweet.
[08:00] <szx> have anyone had an issue when you press RMB ones it does a double click instead?
[08:00] <szx> once*
[08:00] <szx> could this be a bug in X server?
[08:00] <john_sc_net> is this valid as init/*.conf:    start on started filesystem and started auditd
[08:01] <Unknown0BC> slnls, thanks.
[08:01] <john_sc_net> evolution = imap?
[08:02] <john_sc_net> i like dovecot and ldap
[08:03] <slnls> Unknown0BC: however, evolution saves everything in one file iirc. which i find bad for backup reasons. maybe you want to try something else, like claws mail.
[08:03] <slnls> evolution is mbox iirc
[08:03] <john_sc_net> oh wa sjust guessing based on folders.db
[08:04] <slnls> evolution is very easy to use, though
[08:04] <slnls> imap is a protocol and has nothing to do with evolution
[08:04] <john_sc_net> dovecot has some serious security options thoug
[08:04] <slnls> john_sc_net: which?
[08:04] <john_sc_net> i know i meant imap/pop3 daemon
[08:05] <john_sc_net> it allows to layer security encryptions and integrates with iptables to automatically block brute force, etc
[08:06] <slnls> if you are into security you should probably work with starttls and encrypt your emails via PGP or similar
[08:06] <john_sc_net> im talking about encryption from client to server, not the actual mails, that is still an option with this
[08:07] <slnls> i cant see the benefits over starttls and PGP
[08:08] <vox> who is the unmitigated genius ubuntu dev that decided if a raidset cannot be assembled at boot, the entire system will ONLY go to busybox(regardless of if you tell it to ignore the failed assembly), even if the raidset has ZERO to do with the operating system itself?
[08:08] <john_sc_net> i setup a vpn layered with normal tls where people could vpn to dovecot using their email logins, etc; ability to add users using dovecot command instead of just in ldap/mysql
[08:08] <john_sc_net> at one point
[08:09] <slnls> john_sc_net: i dont understand. me noob.
[08:10] <john_sc_net> double encryption capability, if they were paranoid
[08:10] <john_sc_net> their choice to vpn to dovecot server; they couldnt use vpn to get to internet
[08:10] <john_sc_net> just to services on server
[08:11] <aaditya> v
[08:12] <eFfeM> hi, where does unity store its startup settings (what windows are opened when started) and/or how can I modify that ?
[08:12] <handong> hi
[08:12] <aaditya> helo
[08:12] <aaditya> ho u
[08:13] <handong> how to use chinese
[08:13] <handong> ?
[08:13] <john_sc_net> when they vpn, they would have some things ignored; i had checks to see how many connections a certain subnet was trying within a given time and to see how many of the connections went through and finished (they got logged into the service they connected to, did whatever, and finished). If there was 20 or 30 connections within 1 minute that didnt go anywhere (portscans) their ip would get blocked. Normal users will make a lo
[08:13] <john_sc_net> t of connections to; so anytime a login was successful, their ip would get ignored for this one check.
[08:13] <slnls> eFfeM: click where you shutdown your pc. upper right. click startup-programs there.
[08:13] <dr_willis> eFfeM:  if you mean by what files get auto ran at login. theres ~/.config/autostart/  and /etc/xdg/autostart/
[08:13] <dr_willis> !zn | handong
[08:14] <eFfeM> slnls: dr_willis thanks for the advice, will peek at it
[08:14] <dr_willis> hmm.. whats the ! for chinease.. :) i forget
[08:14] <handong> !zh
[08:14] <handong> think you
[08:14] <dr_willis> zh? how do you get zh from chinese. ;) no wonder i frogot it.
[08:15] <slnls> zhinese?
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> zhongwen
[08:15] <viv> helo
[08:15] <serp_> zhongwen is chinese for chinese
[08:16] <eFfeM> slnls: dr_willis: thanks; used the startup programs but also peeked at the autostart file; had a window that started too big, fixed the --geometry and now it is ok
[08:16] <Snurre86> i used this guide http://www.tecmint.com/install-vlc-2-0-5-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-linux-mint-14/ to add a ppa for vlc, this gets me version 2.0.6 but te newest version is 2.0.5. Is this a scam
[08:17] <handong> it's my first time use irssi.
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[08:17] <john_sc_net> when i do security, i look at connections as scales. if they do something supcious enough times but isnt very serious it would tip the scales to more suspicious. i had a conntrack in iptables to keep up with their "suspicious level" and things they did (sending certain tcp flags is one, like state new and no SYN flag is one :)
[08:18] <john_sc_net> high enough level, they get permanently blocked
[08:19] <ubunoob> Hello all, I install squid and was messing around with it, I messed up my config so I uninstalled squid using software centre and deleted the squid3 folder in etc
[08:19] <john_sc_net> speaking of which, does ubuntu have iptables-conntrack installed by default?
[08:19] <john_sc_net> and ubuntu setup didnt give any option to configure packages
[08:19] <ubunoob> When I reinstall it it doesn't recreate these folders and the config files, can anyone help me?
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> ubunoob: have you tried using it? does it write the files?
[08:21] <john_sc_net> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[08:21] <john_sc_net> oops
[08:21] <ubunoob> @aeon-ltd yes I tried to run it after reinstall I get 'FATAL: Unable to open configuration file: /etc/squid3/squid.conf: (2) No such file or directory'
[08:22] <john_sc_net> http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[08:22] <viv> hi
[08:22] <john_sc_net> yeah ubunoob you have to create the config file
[08:22] <john_sc_net> the default one is what i linked
[08:22] <ubunoob> @john_sc_net is the default available online somewhere?
[08:23] <john_sc_net> http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[08:24] <ubunoob> @john_sc_net wow. . I feel stupid, I even saw that yesterday come to think of it. will try and do it right now. .
[08:25] <aaditya__> hi
[08:25] <jiwan> hi
[08:26] <aaditya__> hello jivan
[08:26] <john_sc_net> wow thats cool; upstart constantly monitors /etc/init folder for changes
[08:26] <jiwan> why my ubuntu slow starts after entering password?
[08:26] <handong> hello,where can study the irssi document
[08:26] <john_sc_net> instead of having to run a command to have it update service list
[08:26] <john_sc_net> jiwan how are you running ubuntu?
[08:26] <jiwan> yeah
[08:27] <jiwan> it takes almost 30 second to show the desktop.
[08:27] <jiwan> sometimes around of 40
[08:27] <aaditya__> hi
[08:27] <john_sc_net> @ handong
[08:27] <john_sc_net> man irssi
[08:28] <handong> !
[08:28] <john_sc_net> happy holidays
[08:29] <handong> why don't you speak chinese?????
[08:29] <aaditya__> hi
[08:29] <jiwan> anye here who can solve me?
[08:30] <handong> !zh
[08:31] <handong> 这里禁止说中文吗？
[08:31] <aaditya__> uouiu
[08:31] <aaditya__> have any girl
[08:31] <somsip> !support | aaditya__
[08:32] <what_up1> how can i tell what version of ubuntu i'm running and if i should update?
[08:32] <somsip> aaditya__: so it isn't for chat
[08:32] <dr_willis> jiwan:  try disabling some of the auto starting stuff perhaps in ~/.config/autostart/ and /etc/xdg/autostart/ perhaps
[08:32] <dr_willis> !version | what_up1
[08:33] <what_left> i have intrepid. should i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:33] <handong> !version]
[08:33] <handong> !version
[08:33] <what_left> ya i saw that
[08:33] <what_left> thanks though
[08:34] <jiwan> there is nothing │~/.config/autostart
[08:35] <dufa> what_left: if you intend to upgrade to 12.10 you might consider a backup and fresh install
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-screensaver.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-settings-daemon.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-sound-applet.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gnome-user-share.desktop
[08:35] <jiwan> gsettings-data-convert.desktop
[08:35] <FloodBot1> jiwan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <jiwan> ok
[08:36] <jiwan> sorry
[08:36] <jiwan> but tell how to manage it
[08:38] <jiwan> hey what after pasting it?
[08:38] <dufa> jiwan: enter the link to the paste in the chat
[08:39] <what_left> does xubuntu fit on cds anymore?
[08:39] <euax> jiwan: after access to the web page and paste your text, will be created a link.
[08:40] <jiwan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1472134/
[08:40] <jiwan> this is the link
[08:40] <dr_willis> what_left:  i think xubuntu and lubuttu fit on cd. but im not 100% sure about xubuntu. ;)
[08:40] <harpal> I am having i3 processor and 6GB or RAM. Should I install ubuntu desktop? or ubuntu server?
[08:40] <what_left> what's lighterweight, xubuntu or lubuntu?
[08:41] <what_left> harpal: what is your usecase?
[08:41] <dr_willis> lubuntu is the lightest 'desktop'
[08:41] <dufa> jiwan: those are the files in ~/.config/autostart, yes?
[08:41] <aeon-ltd> what_left: lubuntu, it's mostly just openbox which is a standalone wm
[08:41] <Mike1986> how can i install ubuntu on my phone
[08:41] <dr_willis> jiwan:  move them to some .autostart-disabled directory and see if it helps.
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <Mike1986> ?
[08:41] <dr_willis> Mike1986:  theres vm's in the android market you can use.
[08:41] <harpal> what_left: I am using eclipse and some tools. and system is up most of the time.
[08:41] <FloodBot1> Mike1986: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <dr_willis> wow. he never learns.
[08:42] <jiwan> no this files are from /etc/xdg/autostart
[08:42] <dr_willis> jiwan:  so move them and see if it helps.
[08:42] <what_left> harpal: if you're using eclipse, wouldn't you want some type of desktop?
[08:42] <jiwan> where to move
[08:42] <dr_willis> Mike1986:  theres vm's in the android market you can use..
[08:42] <jiwan> can i remove it randomly?
[08:42] <dr_willis> jiwan:  move them to some .autostart-disabled directory and see if it helps.
[08:42] <jiwan> anywhere/
[08:43] <handong> /yes
[08:43] <dr_willis> i said move.. not 'remove'
[08:43] <harpal> what_left: ya, but server can also install Gnome.
[08:43] <jiwan> should i have to create new directory or there is existing one by this name
[08:44] <varunpriolkar97> nvidia
[08:44] <dr_willis> jiwan:  its trivial to make a directory.. so make one.
[08:44] <dr_willis> Its not rocket surgery. ;)
[08:44] <dr_willis> 'move them someplace you will rember so you an move them back later if you want to'
[08:45] <dr_willis> like /etc/xdg/autostart-moved/
[08:45] <gancar> Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:45] <varunpriolkar97> guys how is the support like for gtx 6xx cards?
[08:45] <l057c0d3r> k just wondering what the chances are of clam antivirus on nix breaking my windows install
[08:45] <varunpriolkar97> i am on 4650and am tired of amds crap
[08:45] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  you can have it just scan and report... no chance at all of harm
[08:46] <l057c0d3r> because i've scanned my win pc with three different windows virus scanners and nothing ever came up
[08:46] <l057c0d3r> for kicks i stuck my linux pendrive in and booted up and mounted the windows partition.. and started a virus scan.. and its not even done yet and said there were 536 threats found
[08:46] <gancar>  Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:47] <what_left> l057c0d3r: o_o
[08:47] <what_left> l057c0d3r: i recommend you just get rid of that windows installation, since clamav isn't even close to top tier in terms of identifying them
[08:47] <l057c0d3r> i know right.. thats why i'm thinking it might cripple windows on me if it actually tries to fix the issues
[08:48] <dr_willis> there are live-av-cds made by avast and some other av makers you mayt want to test out
[08:48] <what_left> l057c0d3r: are there any actual issues you're encoutnering?
[08:48] <what_left> *encountering
[08:48] <gancar> Hi. How could I create Ubuntu on a VPS. (I'm new to virtual servers etc)
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> what_left, right.. but three different windows scanners ran in windows found nothing
[08:48] <what_left> gancar: that's not really a valid question. do you want to create an ubuntu image for a vps?
[08:48] <gancar> Like a remote desktop connection similar to XP
[08:48] <l057c0d3r> and the windows is a factory install that has only been on there  for 6 months with very little use to it
[08:48] <what_left> gancar: most vpses have default installations, oftentimes including ubuntu among the mix
[08:49] <gancar> Oh
[08:49] <l057c0d3r> not really.. i was just doing the scan for fun... to see what it would say
[08:49] <what_left> gancar: you mean vnc?
[08:49] <dr_willis> dosent take more then 6 min.. to get a windows virus if you do it right. ;) or wrong...
[08:49] <what_left> gancar: for remote desktop, i found TeamViewer to be rather decent
[08:49] <dr_willis> It all depens on what its reporting.. it may be reporting specific things for specific reasons, or having false positives
[08:50] <gancar> See http://bluevm.com
[08:50] <gancar> To install on one of those
[08:50] <l057c0d3r> well dr_willis im starting to think it just thinks windows itself is a virus :-p
[08:50] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  theres always the potential for false positives
[08:50] <l057c0d3r> but yeah..  looking forward to looking over the list of results when it finishes just to see what its reporting
[08:51] <what_left> gancar: that is sketchily cheap
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> so what is a good virus scanner for nix then.. since this said one is supposidly not up to par
[08:51] <l057c0d3r> and i will say this much.... this one is slow... its been scanning for quite some time now
[08:51] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  several companies make  them. clamav is just one of many.
[08:51] <what_left> gancar: prgmr is already on the cheap-as-crap side, and it's like 3x the price
[08:52] <gancar> Yeah but could you install a remotely accessible Ubuntu on there
[08:52] <dr_willis> avg and norton i THINK have linux based live cds
[08:52] <what_left> gancar: assuming they offer what they're claiming to... yeah
[08:52] <dr_willis> or was it mcafee? been a while since i bothered with av apps
[08:52] <gancar> How actually though?
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> right..  how likely is it for a virus to get on linux....  peeps always tell me its a lot safer.. and i know its easy to get them on windows sooo
[08:53] <l057c0d3r> never was fond of avg..
[08:53] <what_left> gancar: install ubuntu, ssh in with x forwarding to install something like xubuntu-desktop (probably wouldn't want unity because of resource constraints), then install something like teamviewer or vncserver on there
[08:54] <gancar> See that is said simply but half of what you said jist made no sense to me :/
[08:55] <dr_willis> l057c0d3r:  i know of no linux viruses.. biggest danger to a linux box is the users doing somthing stupid
[08:55] <l057c0d3r> right..
[08:55] <what_left> gancar: i imagine when you set up your hosting plan, they ask you what distro you want to run. you select ubuntu, which will probably be ubuntu-server (text only ubuntu)
[08:55] <gancar> Ok
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> i'm not worried about that.. i've broke my system a few times..  nothing that;s not fixable....  i've never had to actually format and reinstall a nix install like windows.....
[08:56] <what_left> gancar: then you ssh in (connect to it) with X forwarding (so you can also see anything that would be displayed), and install/run xubuntu-desktop so that now there's actually a user interface you can work with
[08:56] <gancar> Oh
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> what_left  why not lubuntu-desktoo
[08:56] <what_left> l057c0d3r: either one
[08:56] <l057c0d3r> :-p
[08:57] <what_left> gancar: from here, you install a more permanent solution for remote viewing, such as TeamViewer, which is something you just download from a certain website and run (it's simple to set up)
[08:58] <gancar> Oh what ssh program to use
[08:58] <what_left> lubuntu 12.10 should run better on a 2005 dell than gnome-based jaunty, right?
[08:58] <what_left> gancar: what OS are you on right now?
[08:59] <gancar> Windows 7
[08:59] <what_left> gancar: i think PuTTY does x forwarding, but am not sure
[08:59] <hero616> Could 2 programs access the same mouse? read("/dev/input/mouse0",...)
[09:00] <bindaasomatic> ubuntu 12.04 laptop touchpad works in xfce but doesn't work in unity ,any idea?
[09:00] <what_left> gancar: if you trust someone with a name as sketchy as what_left from an irc channel, i can maybe have a go at it (though i wouldn't be the best person for the job, and i can't guarantee i'll be around much)
[09:00] <ubunoob> Hi all I was in earlier trying to repair my squid config, I got it right by using the default at http://wiki.imagestream.com/wiki/Squid_default_configuration
[09:00] <gancar> What spec would you recommend at http://bluevm.com as a vry minimum?
[09:01] <dufa> gancar: also, if you want bluevm specific support, they have an irc channel at irc.obsidianirc.net #bluevm, they might be able to help you as well
[09:01] <Mongolski> hej
[09:01] <ubunoob> I followed the instructions step for step from https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html up to step 3 but all I get now is that the proxy is refusing connections. can anyone help?
[09:01] <gancar> Yes i used to be an oper there :)
[09:01] <gancar> Ok if u want to
[09:02] <dufa> gancar: what specs are minimum will depend on what you plan to do with the vps
[09:02] <what_left> i would imagine the bluevm3 should be sufficient for really basic use with lubuntu
[09:03] <ubunoob> I messed up my config yesterday so I really just need someone to show me how to do it right
[09:03] <what_left> 128MB ram might be pushing it these days? who knows
[09:03] <what_left> i remember my first multi-megabyte RAM computer... good times good times
[09:04] <aragorn4> hi. I'm trying to get a high id on aMule, when I do a command: netstat -an | grep "LISTEN "  I see the port listening 0.0.0.0:1058  while all other ports are 127.0.0.1, why is it so?
[09:04] <l057c0d3r> what_left.. i remember when bill gates said no one would ever need more then 512mb hard drive space
[09:04] <what_left> aragorn4: 0.0.0.0 is broadcast, isn't it? (or is that 255.255.255.255?)
[09:05] <what_left> l057c0d3r: i don't think he said that?
[09:05] <gancar> Thanks for your help. I'll be back soon on my PC
[09:05] <l057c0d3r> 255.255.255.0 is a subnet mask
[09:06] <l057c0d3r> well the exact mb may have been different.. but i know it wasn't much..  and yes he said it
[09:06] <aragorn4> what_left, is it related to having a high ID?
[09:06] <what_left> if i remember my networks course correctly, 0.0.0.0 is broadcast which means it's intended for EVERYONE on the network to see
[09:06] <what_left> aragorn4: i know nothing about the software you're using, so i don't know what it would imply
[09:07] <aragorn4> what_left, I mean an open port
[09:07] <l057c0d3r> hmm i always thought it was *.*.*.255 for broadcast
[09:07] <l057c0d3r> usually 192.168.*.255
[09:10] <Catbuntu> hello
[09:11] <iDangerMouse> Hi
[09:12] <llutz> aragorn4: those services with 127.0.0.1:port are only bound to localhost, those with 0.0.0.0 to any available iface. 0.0.0.0 has nothing to do with broadcast etc.pp
[09:13] <handong> ji
[09:24] <ciccio123456> ciao
[09:24] <ciccio123456> !list
[09:25] <ciccio123456> ciao
[09:25] <dr_willis> Wow.. going to !list again?
[09:25] <ciccio123456> !list
[09:25] <dr_willis> you just dont read do you?
[09:25] <longxiongqiu> ....
[09:25] <llutz> italians are different...
[09:26] <dr_willis> im tempted to start sending them Ubuntu ISO torrent files...
[09:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:26] <somsip> dr_willis: I was told off for sending a !list to someone as soon as they said 'ciao'... ;)
[09:26] <dr_willis> heh
[09:26] <dr_willis> what were they expecting? ;)
[09:26] <somsip> dr_willis: I deserved it, but they did try a !list immediately after
[09:26] <dr_willis> amazeing thing is i ONLY see it in that exact order..
[09:27] <dr_willis> never hello. or aloha. or  buena nochas..
[09:27] <longxiongqiu> my english is not good
[09:29] <Ben64> dr_willis: I don't know what it is, many many italians come in here and !list
[09:29] <c_nick> I need someone to download a video from youtube for me .. and really appreciate if he could send me via dropbox?
[09:30] <c_nick> since youtube is blocked here  I want  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR_CXlJFe2E song
[09:30] <dr_willis> Ben64:  or is it just one? ;)
[09:31] <longxiongqiu> many  websites is blocked in china
[09:31] <brez> hi all, just installed 12.10, Im wondering.. where do I locate the oldmenue subfolders like "internet/grapics" etc?
[09:31] <llutz> dr_willis: one extremly learningresistant italian... i doubt so
[09:32] <dr_willis> its the fbi looking for warezers ;)
[09:33] <dr_willis> brez:  the top left Ubuntu icon is the dash that has items and search and filters to find stuff.. if you 'must' have the classic type menus in unity. theres a few classic-menu indicator applets and other tools out in various ppas
[09:34] <dr_willis> !manual | brez
[09:34] <dr_willis> brez:  'Superkey-A' gets to the applications lens. then you can filter stuff and search and so forth
[09:35] <dr_willis> the 'filter results' check boxs can clean out clutter
[09:35] <brez> dr_willis: - I wasin the dashboard before, and it gave me sub menu options,for the old menus, I just cannot forthe life of me find it again
[09:36] <dr_willis> brez:  i dont recall ever seeing that
[09:36] <brez> I may not of been in dashboard, but certainly somewhere where I could see "internet > empathy, thunderbird, firefox"
[09:37] <dr_willis> i tend to just tap super, then enter what i need.
[09:37] <dr_willis> unless you were using the classic gnome desktop thing.
[09:37] <paul3> Hello
[09:37] <peat88> hello everybody
[09:37] <riderplus> I try to play a vlc online video
[09:38] <riderplus> I get this error
[09:38] <brez> not sure - was in a dashboard like screen.
[09:38] <riderplus> python 2.7 required to install plugins to play media files of the following type h.264
[09:38] <peat88> install codec h@^$
[09:38] <peat88> codec h
[09:38] <peat88> h264
[09:38] <riderplus> peat88: where from?
[09:38] <peat88> france
[09:38] <peat88> .-
[09:38] <riderplus> :D
[09:38] <riderplus> ok...do I find it in Ubuntu repos?
[09:39] <paul3> I'm having a problem with my USB sound device. It worked before, but now everything is sounding "robotic". It's a strange distortion can't really explain how it sounds. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[09:39] <dufa> brez: if you use super-a to get the applications lens, it says filter results in thet upper right corner, clikc that and choose a filter
[09:39] <peat88> hmm i dont thnink so
[09:39] <dr_willis> what is the url of the video riderplus ?
[09:39] <peat88> try to dl the pack google is ur friend .D
[09:39] <riderplus> http://www.totalweblink.altervista.org/Tv/vlc.php
[09:41] <dr_willis> i dont really see how that site is using vlc..  :)
[09:41] <brez> dufa: I didn't do anything fancy, I just had all the old submenus available to me in a tree view in a dashboard like screen.
[09:41] <riderplus> me neither
[09:43] <dr_willis> its launching in its own player.. unless theres some url you are putting into vlc
[09:44] <riderplus> dr_willis: it's launching in flash, vlc, and sopcast
[09:44] <riderplus> i want to watch it using vlc
[09:44] <riderplus> when i try the ling it gives me that error
[09:44] <dr_willis> which link?> :) the first top left icon is playing.. in the embeded player.
[09:45] <hong> hi
[09:46] <paul3> Any pointers on how to debug my sound problems? What's they keyword here (alsa??). I'm new to Linux on the desktop :-)
[09:46] <solitude88> hey guys whats apache irc channel?
[09:46] <blami> paul3: alsa or pulse
[09:46] <llutz> solitude88: #httpd
[09:46] <solitude88> wicked thanks llutz
[09:47] <dufa> brez: if you really want old style application menu you could install classicmenu-indicator, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/install-classic-menu-indicator-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[09:47] <paul3> blami: what's the difference?
[09:47] <riderplus> dr_willis: tv online>vlc
[09:48] <dr_willis> riderplus:  must be somthing with how your browse is configured. they all popup  in an embeded player here. i dont think thats using vlc. :) guess it could be
[09:50] <dr_willis> Guess it is some sort of limited vlc player thats playing.
[09:50] <blami> paul3: alsa is the very thin interface to operating system core sound interface (one in the kernel), pulse or pulseaudio is more complex framework built on top of it
[09:51] <paul3> ok, ic
[09:51] <paul3> now eveyrthing sounds like a robot
[09:51] <dr_willis> riderplus:  this one is working for me here.. (barely)  http://www.totalweblink.altervista.org/Tv/VLC-Tv/Antena-1.php
[09:51] <paul3> i.e. youtube videos
[09:51] <paul3> I already tried rebooting and alsa reload
[09:52] <riderplus> dr_willis: that one is not working for me
[09:52] <paul3> syslog says Rike pulseaudio[1930]: [alsa-sink] alsa-sink.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Broken pipe
[09:52] <paul3> no idea if that's related
[09:52] <riderplus> python 2.7 is searching for h.264 codec
[09:52] <riderplus> and doesn't find it
[09:52] <blami> paul3: it seems it does
[09:52] <dr_willis> riderplus:  heh.. thats the only link on the whole site that actually plays anything..
[09:52] <dr_willis> riderplus:  you have installed the vlc-browser plugin?
[09:53] <dr_willis> it maybe trying toplay in totem or somthing
[09:53] <riderplus> dr_willis: I don't know...let me check
[09:53] <dr_willis> riderplus:  ive installed various vlc plugins for the browser - for my flash-replacer extensions
[09:53] <gancar> Is what_left around?
[09:54] <dr_willis> browser-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC
[09:56] <riderplus> I have installed it..but for no reason python 2.7 is looking for codecs
[09:56] <riderplus> is there a way to set it to play in vlc?
[09:56] <dufa> gancar: no, he left
[09:57] <gancar> dufa: the channel or the network?
[09:57] <dufa> gancar: not sure, channel at least
[10:01] <dr_willis> gancar:  you can use memoserv to send him a message. or do a /whois to see if hes still here
[10:02] <riderplus> ok. I got rid of that error, it installed ffmpeg but now I don't think it's playing with vlc
[10:02] <riderplus> it's actually using gstreamer
[10:03] <fomalhaut> salve !
[10:03] <cristian_c> !italian | fomalhaut
[10:03] <dr_willis> riderplus:  i cant really tell what its playing with. its some rather basic gui in a window,
[10:04] <dr_willis> riderplus:  i dont think its actually using vlc. ;)
[10:04] <riderplus> dr_willis: yes, that's the problem
[10:04] <riderplus> and I don't know how to set it to play with vlc
[10:04] <dr_willis> and i cant see how web link can specifically say 'play with vlc' ;)
[10:04] <riderplus> because playing that way is crappy
[10:05] <fomalhaut> ok thank you
[10:05] <nyuszika7h> what_left
[10:05] <nyuszika7h> oops
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> fail
[10:06] <nyuszika7h> was just trying to search logs :P
[10:07] <KaiserThaws> hi, anyone using log analyzer ?
[10:15] <aragorn4> so why is aMule listening on 0.0.0.0 and not on 127.0.0.1 like other programs?
[10:15] <llutz> aragorn4: because you configured it to do so and it wouldn't make sense to let it listen to localhost only
[10:15] <boichev> anyone willing to help me run evilwm on ubuntus lightdm
[10:16] <llutz> aragorn4: those services with 127.0.0.1:port are only bound to localhost, those with 0.0.0.0:port to any available iface. 0.0.0.0 has nothing to do with broadcast etc.pp
[10:16] <aragorn4> llutz, ok thanks
[10:23] <andreas> hey
[10:23] <exalt> hello, can anyone update me with news about nvidia native optimus support progress
[10:23] <exalt> ?
[10:27] <andreas>  ]
[10:27] <exalt> [
[10:27] <skp1> ..
[10:29] <ogny> hasektor ya
[10:29] <ogny> pardon
[10:30] <blaz_> hi guys, im using 12.04 how can i change metric (i want wlan to have priority over lan)
[10:30] <blaz_> because i watch iptv over lan and want to also surf the net over wlan while watching
[10:31] <Guest77694> hey, my ubuntu crash help me
[10:31]  * joey8 wonders if please's and thankyou's have gone
[10:32] <Guest77694> when i try to move the file of /etc/xdg/autostart files
[10:33] <Guest77694> how to get my /etc/xdg/autostart files again
[10:33] <nikt> Have a nice day.
[10:38] <Guest77694> how to copy /etc/xdg/autostart folder
[10:39] <srhb> Guest77694: I assume just like you would copy any other folder.
[10:39] <Cero> Hi!
[10:40] <Cero> Is there a supported way available to run a read-only root filesystem with Ubuntu (Core) to allow appliance operation?
[10:40] <juniour> hi
[10:40] <Cero> I was thinking about something like flashybrid, overlayfs in conjunction with squashfs, or something like that.
[10:41] <juniour> Cero change the permission
[10:41] <srhb> Cero: Sort of. You would have to make all the subdirectories that need writing live on other partitions, though.
[10:41] <srhb> Cero: ie. with write permission.
[10:41] <juniour> check allwo file executing as prrogram
[10:42] <Cero> I could do with flashybrid but it seems to be bit of an outdated way to achieve this.
[10:42] <Cero> Until now I've been using tinycorelinux for that purpose.
[10:42] <srhb> Cero: It sounds like overlayfs is the cleaner method though.
[10:44] <Cero> But I read something that it was not supported as of the last LTS.
[10:44] <srhb> Cero: The entire thing you want is unsupported, why would that bother you. :P
[10:46] <lewcien> guys I have vt-d can I use it with vbox?
[10:46] <juniour> lewcien ??
[10:46] <shai5482> Hello, I would like to know how I can install RVM on Ubuntu 10.04? I cant find good command on Google
[10:46] <srhb> lewcien: Yes.
[10:46] <lewcien> thanks
[10:47] <juniour> shai5482 ubuntu 10.04 has EOL
[10:47] <mcb_2> Bom dia Francisco. Acabei de alterar mais uma vez a regra do Firewall. Você tentar mais uma?
[10:47] <Cero> srhb: so you recommend going for overlayfs? (as in http://askubuntu.com/questions/109413/how-do-i-use-overlayfs)
[10:47] <srhb> Cero: I think I would.
[10:47] <mcb_2> Sorry wrong place.
[10:48] <Cero> srhb: thanks!
[10:49] <srhb> shai5482: In fairness, there's no easy way in supported versions of Ubuntu either.
[10:49] <srhb> shai5482: But there are guides.
[10:49] <kevin> I have a bluetooth mouse from a4teck (bt-630) that doesnt show up when I search for it in bluetooth settings in ubuntu 12.10... I have pressed the pair button on the mouse and it goes into pairmode... any ideas?
[10:50] <HeKTon> hello anybody
[10:50] <joey8> HeKTon→ hi
[10:51] <lewcien> welp how do I switch between intel hdma and amd radeon?
[10:51] <lewcien> *it's switchable, and even has an option for it in the bios*
[10:51] <Noriandir> hi. is there a way to add new modes to xrandr at boot?
[10:51] <Noriandir> its stupid to add new modes at each user login at each boot
[10:52] <HeKTon> guys i`m very new here. Basically we ask questions about Ubuntu and linux in General right ?
[10:52] <srhb> lewcien: Is the amd card on?
[10:52] <lewcien> srhb: yes
[10:52] <Noriandir> HeKTon: i guess so
[10:52] <lewcien> srhb: just installed amdcccle
[10:52] <HeKTon> That`s cool
[10:53] <HeKTon> ayt I have a question :)
[10:53] <lewcien> !topic | HeKton
[10:53] <umer> is there any good dictionary available for ubuntu like world web
[10:53] <lewcien> !ask | HeKTon
[10:53] <HeKTon> I got a problem with thunderbird...
[10:53] <lewcien> HeKTon, it would be appreciated if you would state the problem...
[10:53] <HeKTon> just one moment to see exactly what it says
[10:54] <srhb> lewcien: I don't think virtualgl has support for those AMD cards yet.
[10:55] <lewcien> srhb: thanks
[10:55] <srhb> lewcien: However, if you're willing to live with an X reboot, you could checkout vga switcheroo
[10:55] <dwakar> I want to start my terminal everytime my computer boots. How do I do that with crontab?
[10:55] <linudz> Hi there, does anyone know how to set up touchscreen funcs on an Asus eee-top all-in-on pc? Could you PM me? TNX
[10:56] <lewcien> srhb: thank you
[10:56] <umer> dwakr u don't need crontab for that
[10:56] <HeKTon> ok lewcien so basically it was setted up and then all of my accounts dissapeared
[10:56] <dwakar> I added @reboot /usr/bin/gnome-terminal but nothing.
[10:56] <lewcien> HeKTon: you could try #thunderbird though...
[10:56] <HeKTon> now I`m tryying to register again but it doesnt seem to work
[10:56] <lewcien> HeKTon: type /join #thunderbird
[10:56] <HeKTon> ah
[10:56] <HeKTon> thanks :)
[10:57] <dwakar> umer: so what do I need to do?
[10:57] <srhb>   dwakar: Check out ~/.config/autostart
[10:57] <umer> dwakar there is startup application on search
[10:57] <shai5482> Hello, I've installed RVM on my server, when I type "which rvm" and "which rvmsudo" I found them /usr/local/rvm/bin/rvmsudo but when I type the command I get rvm: command not found any idea?
[10:57] <HeKTon> unfortunatelly there`s no one in that room
[10:58] <umer> just add your gnome-terminal in it
[10:58] <srhb> shai5482: Are they executable?
[10:58] <shai5482> srhb: yes
[10:58] <dwakar> srhb: yeah there are bunch of .desktop files
[10:58] <umer> dwakar /usr/bin/gnome-terminal use following to add gnome-terminal
[10:59] <shai5482> srhb: I found on Google that I should add them to the PATH variable, but how I can do that?
[10:59] <donnie> How do I fix this error from synaptic "Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT"
[10:59] <srhb> shai5482: They should be in your PATH if which finds them
[10:59] <umer> dwakar which ubuntu you are currently using version
[10:59] <dwakar> umer: 12.04
[10:59] <srhb> dwakar: but show your PATH anyway. echo $PATH
[10:59] <umer> press window button
[10:59] <srhb> shai5482: ^^^
[10:59] <umer> type startup
[10:59] <shai5482> srhb: so why they not working? and I get message command not found?
[11:00] <shai5482> srhb: one sec..
[11:00] <umer> do u able to find that startup application ?
[11:00] <shai5482> srhb: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/rvm/bin
[11:01] <srhb> shai5482: So indeed, it is in your PATH (last item)
[11:01] <umer> dwakar ?
[11:01] <srhb> shai5482: Are you positive they are marked as executable? ls -l /usr/local/rvm/bin/rvm
[11:02] <dwakar> umer: yes I'm not using unity so I can't do search and type startup
[11:02] <kevin> I have a bluetooth mouse from a4teck (bt-630) that doesnt show up when I search for it in bluetooth settings in ubuntu 12.10... I have pressed the pair button on the mouse and it goes into pairmode... any ideas?
[11:02] <dwakar> umer: is there anyway I can do it from terminal
[11:02] <shai5482> srhb: -rwxrwxr-x 1 root rvm 1272 2012-12-28 03:44 /usr/local/rvm/bin/rvm
[11:03] <umer> dwakar ya wait
[11:03] <srhb> shai5482: very odd. How about if you execute it with its full path?
[11:03] <dufa> donnie: you can read the manual for apt-cdrom with the command "man apt-cdrom"
[11:03] <shai5482> srhb: I can try, you think I should try to restart the server?
[11:03] <srhb> shai5482: That should make no difference.
[11:04] <dufa> donnie: basically what you need to do is "apt-cdrom -d=/mount/point/for/cd add
[11:04] <dufa> if I recall correctly
[11:04] <Banos> hey
[11:04] <Banos> anyone wanna chat
[11:04] <Banos> about comp networking careers
[11:04] <donnie> But it's an error in syanptic. Saying it can't download certain update info... I don't even have a cd
[11:04] <srhb> Banos: Not in this channel. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <dufa> hmm
[11:05] <srhb> shai5482: How about it then? Does it execute with the full path?
[11:05] <shai5482> srhb: I did reboot and its working now :)
[11:05] <srhb> shai5482: Mysterious.
[11:06] <Aleksander> Hello
[11:06] <varunpriolkar97> hello Aleksander
[11:06] <dufa> donnie: what are you exactly trying to do in synaptic
[11:06] <robinson> Hello
[11:07] <donnie> "the update information is outdated" is a notification I get. When I try and connect to update it. That's the error I get
[11:07] <TomyLobo> donnie which ubuntu version?
[11:07] <donnie> No idea... Whats the terminal command again?
[11:07] <TomyLobo> and what do you mean by "try and connect to update"
[11:08] <TomyLobo> donnie "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and look for precise, lucid, quantal or something like that
[11:09] <donnie> 11.10... And I get a notification on my panel that says my update info is out of date. When I say "update it"... It give me that error I posted about apt cdrom
[11:09] <dziegler> Hi, I have a small question. Is it possible to check whether a network card has a link? For example, if the network card is connected to a switch.
[11:10] <shai5482> srhb: Thanks for your help..
[11:10] <HeKTon> so guys no one of you had same problem as i have with thunderbird ?
[11:10] <HeKTon> there is no thread on google either
[11:11] <TomyLobo> donnie what does "apt-get update" say?
[11:11] <technikfreak> sure
[11:11] <srhb> dziegler: You could use ethtool for ethernet cards
[11:11] <donnie> Says there's no updates available. And the same in apt-get upgrade
[11:11] <technikfreak> ifconfig
[11:11] <technikfreak> and if its blinking or not
[11:11] <TomyLobo> apt-get upgrade does something entirely different
[11:11] <TomyLobo> update updates the package lists
[11:11] <srhb> technikfreak: ifconfig will not show you whether there's a link, I believe.
[11:12] <TomyLobo> i.e. the lists of what there is out there
[11:12] <TomyLobo> upgrade upgrades packages
[11:12] <srhb> dziegler: Or better yet, cat /sys/class/net/eth0/operstate
[11:12] <donnie> w: failed to fetch cdrom://
[11:12] <srhb> dziegler: Replace eth0 with your adaptor, of course. :)
[11:13] <TomyLobo> donnie well do you want to fetch packages from the cd?
[11:13] <technikfreak> srhb, as son as you have a link it will sends package for sure
[11:13] <dziegler> srhb yes thanks a lot :-) works fine, nice parser output :-)
[11:13] <srhb> technikfreak: What?
[11:13] <srhb> dziegler: There's also carrier, you might need to check the difference
[11:13] <donnie> TonyLobo I don't have a cd. I don't even have a cdrom drive in my computer anymore since it's really not needed
[11:13] <srhb> dziegler: In the same directory
[11:14] <TomyLobo> donnie ok, edit /etc/apt/sources.list with your favorite text editor (with superuser privileges) and remove the cdrom line then
[11:14] <TomyLobo> (or prefix it with "#", which disables it)
[11:14] <dwakar> srhb: I guess .config/autostart doesn't work for me since I run a different WM
[11:14] <donnie> Ok. Thank you
[11:14] <dziegler> srhb: thanks :-)
[11:15] <the_wave3> Hi I have a Billion USB ISDN modem but i don't know if it is working or how to configure it. from different forums and websites i presume that the hisax (=mISDN?) ISDN driver run it under linux. anyone fit  on this topic?
[11:15] <TomyLobo> donnie for kde: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <TomyLobo> donnie for gnome: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <subdesign> anyone can help me why I cant ssh to a hosting server. password is right because i can log in to ftp with it.
[11:32] <dufa> subdesign: sure, do you get any error messages?
[11:32] <subdesign> ssh info: http://pastie.org/5588156
[11:34] <_graham_> Is the ssh server configured to allow password authentication?
[11:35] <subdesign> i guess i could connect earlier, so it worked
[11:35] <_graham_> It kinda looks like it is, but I've never debugged a system that disabled password ssh logins so I'm not sure...
[11:35] <subdesign> the prob was i just wanted to apply an automated ssh login, added the generated key to the server, and accidentally exited
[11:36] <subdesign> so i break something meantime
[11:36] <_graham_> What happens if you connect from a machine that doesn't have the generated key?
[11:36] <subdesign> hm i have one machine
[11:36] <_graham_> Or a different user account from the same machine
[11:36] <_graham_> Or - worse case - temporarially remove the keys from your local .ssh directory
[11:37] <subdesign> ok trying ..
[11:37] <subdesign> now the authorized_keys file is renamed
[11:37] <subdesign> but the login unsuccessful
[11:38] <_graham_> Ok - Stupid question time. You're certain the username and password are correct? And you're certain the hostname is correct?
[11:39] <subdesign> yes it haven't changed
[11:39] <subdesign> what if I delete the generated key?
[11:39] <joey8> Hi. Can anyone tell me please what is the terminal command for running “system monitor”.  Ubuntu 12.04 / Mate 1.4.2. Thank you
[11:39] <dufa> subdesign: move it rather than delete it, you might want to have it later
[11:40] <_graham_> Delete or move it. Deleting it means you can't get it back if you need it elsewhere
[11:40] <_graham_> I'm not sure that'll make any difference though
[11:41] <dufa> subdesign: you could use ssh -v ... for vebose mode, it could help in debugging
[11:42] <subdesign> ok
[11:42] <joey8> Hi. I have found it eventually if any one is interested.... “mate-system-monitor”
[11:42] <jeeves_moss> how do I setup my bind server to be a slave with no upstream replication to my windows servers?
[11:43] <subdesign> dufa, with -v I only get "Sorry, try again."
[11:43] <ranjan>  hi all, how can i use libnotify/notify-send centrally to show message on multiple ubuntu nodes on my network
[11:46] <Noriandir> does anyone know how to add permenantly a resolution to X11? my screen supports 1280x1024 and ubuntu only detects 1024x768... right now I'm using xrandr with --newmode and doing a --addmode after, but that is not permanent...
[11:46] <agsel> I want to copy contents of 32GB drive onto 128GB drive. I tried dd. now file utility shows that I have 128GB of ext4 filesystem. file explorer shows that the drive has 32GB. how should I fix this?
[11:46] <dufa> subdesign: it says that after you type the password?
[11:47] <exalt> hello, can anyone update me with news about nvidia native optimus support progress?
[11:47] <subdesign> dufa, no, i have permission problem
[11:47] <rudy__> Hello every one
[11:47] <rudy__> i am from China
[11:47] <subdesign> dufa, http://hastebin.com/perexepevi.cpp
[11:47] <joey8> rudy__→ hi
[11:48] <rudy__> Can i make a friend for you
[11:48] <epx998> Anyone ever mess with the old ldmud junk?
[11:51] <dufa> subdesign: is that all of the verbse output or is there more, would you mind pasteing the rest?
[11:51] <subdesign> ok
[11:52] <InspectorCluseau> agsel, http://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/03_Disk_to_disk_clone
[11:53] <subdesign> dufa, http://hastebin.com/veyumavadi.hs
[11:56] <Kartagis> hrm, when I clicked on my program icons to make them launchers, their icon turned into question marks. any ideas?
[11:56] <_graham_> Curiously, when I try that locally to my own machine, it calls it "keyboard-interactive" when it prompts for a password, and not "password"
[11:57] <dufa> subdesign: are you specifying in the ssh commnd the username you want ot log in with, the degub output suggests youre logging in as "user"
[11:57] <subdesign> yes
[11:58] <_graham_> dufa: He must be, otherwise it would default to his local username of "mercury". Might be that he isn't specifying the correct username though...
[11:58] <_graham_> dufa: Well, he either is or else it doesn't actually output the real username requested to that log...
[11:58] <subdesign> i changed my un to user
[11:59] <dufa> kk
[11:59] <subdesign> surely i mixed up the keys or something. how can I revert ?
[12:00] <_graham_> What is the actual command you are using? (Redacted as appropriate)
[12:00] <Noriandir> how do I recreate xorg.conf?
[12:00] <Noriandir> i don't have it
[12:00] <subdesign> _graham_, sudo ssh username@username.webfactional.com
[12:01] <_graham_> Why are you runnign ssh with sudo?
[12:01] <subdesign> like: http://docs.webfaction.com/user-guide/access.html
[12:01] <subdesign> hm good question
[12:01] <_graham_> There is zero need for that. That just runs the local ssh client as root on the local machine
[12:02] <subdesign> :/
[12:02] <subdesign> sorry u right
[12:02] <subdesign> thx _graham_, dura
[12:02] <subdesign> dufa
[12:02] <_graham_> And then - it occurs to me - sudo will ask for your local password before it even tries to connect to the remote machine, which is likely a different password
[12:03] <dufa> good point
[12:04] <dufa> right , which is why the faild authentication popped up in the local log, the first paste: http://pastie.org/pastes/5588156/text
[12:04] <_graham_> Yes. It's not the remote ssh auth that was failing but the local sudo auth
[12:05] <subdesign> yes it was a leak in my knowledge. ssh doesn't need sudo.
[12:05] <_graham_> That's probably why the key auth wasn't working too - because it will have been getting the keys from /root/.ssh instead of from /home/mercury/.ssh
[12:05] <dufa> yes
[12:05] <M1C4HTRON13> getting an error running grub-update
[12:05] <M1C4HTRON13> sudo update-grub
[12:05] <M1C4HTRON13>  /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 1: /etc/default/grub: ]#: not found
[12:06] <_graham_> You should use sudo as little as possible. The vast majority of non-local-sysadmin tasks don't need it at all
[12:06] <subdesign> ok
[12:07] <_graham_> (By "vast majority" - I can't think of any that need it off the top of my head)
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> subdesign  _graham_  basically, any command that changes something outside /home, needs sudo
[12:11] <subdesign> so because i was in .ssh , its in the home, i dont need sudo. memorized.
[12:11] <_graham_> MonkeyDust: Basically, yes, with some exceptions. Most normal activities don't need to do that at all though
[12:17] <skr> please help
[12:17] <Guest1607> GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
[12:19] <Guest1607> GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications. help plz
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest1607  start with a question
[12:24] <M1C4HTRON13> how do I update grub after editing /etc/default/grub?
[12:25] <Guest1607> try  sudo update-grub2
[12:26] <M1C4HTRON13> I get an error
[12:26] <M1C4HTRON13>  /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 1: /etc/default/grub: ]#: not found
[12:27] <merlin_> /etc/default/grub not found
[12:27] <merlin_> check this file
[12:27] <rzs> Im on ubuntu 12.10
[12:27] <rzs> Im unable to play mp3 in firefox
[12:28] <rzs> also, its not working in opera...in chrome the mo3 plays fine
[12:28] <rzs> any way to fix this ?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> rzs install restricted areas
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> rzs  mp3 is a closed format
[12:28] <Guest1607> i am getting an error when opening gedit "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend."
[12:28] <cfhowlett> rzs: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:29] <MonkWitDaFunk> rzs, i think.you can get a plugin that works with your web browser from the ubuntu.software.centre:-)
[12:29] <merlin_> +1
[12:29] <rzs> MonkeyDust cfhowlett : ok, let me try installing the restricted extras package
[12:29] <M1C4HTRON13> merlin /etc/default/grub is fine as far as I can tell
[12:30] <Guest1607> i am getting an error when opening gedit "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend."  any help
[12:30] <merlin_> try  $grubmkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:31] <merlin_> try  $grubmkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !who | merlin_
[12:31] <JF1976> good day to you all, Q). I did a disto upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 and now i'm left with a disk check on every boot for the "unclean 10.04", whats the correct way to fix this rather than disabling the disk check? thanks.
[12:31] <merlin_> !M1C4HTRON1  try  $grubmkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:33] <Guest1607> !who
[12:33] <M1C4HTRON13> merlin did you mean grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:33] <M1C4HTRON13> it gives the same error
[12:34] <JF1976> !help
[12:35] <JF1976> !forcefsck
[12:36] <JF1976> !tune2fs -c o -i 0
[12:36] <rGiskardReventlo> I'm trying to cross compile AROS (Amiga Research Operating System) using this tutorial (http://meehow.de/index.php/aros/crosscompiling-aros-for-arm/) however when I try to install the package I have unresolved dependencies... I think it has something to do with ubuntu searching for the package in the wrong location (using multiarch and armhf) but I'm unsure of how to resolve the issue. Can
[12:36] <rGiskardReventlo>  anybody help?
[12:36] <ThomasBerends> I've installed a lamp-server using Tasksel a while ago, but now I fucked up. Is there a way to remove the lamp-server completely?
[12:37] <JF1976> tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 | touch /forcefsck
[12:37] <anonymous> we are anonymous
[12:38] <anonymous> we do not forgive
[12:38] <anonymous> we do not forget
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> anonymous  wrong channel
[12:38] <anonymous> lol
[12:38] <JF1976> thats what i was thinking lol
[12:38] <merlin__> T.T
[12:38] <JF1976> goto #backtrack-linux
[12:38] <anonymous> im using the new anonymous OS
[12:38] <blami> anonymous: geez goto #gentoo or #backtrack-linux ...
[12:39] <blami> anonymous: don't tell me it is ubuntu flavour
[12:39] <blami> we're anonymous ... unless our searches in unity are sent to amazon :D
[12:40] <rGiskardReventlo> anybody? experience of cross compiling using multiarch?
[12:40] <JF1976> blami, apt-get remove geoclue-ubuntu-geoip ;)
[12:40] <blami> :>
[12:41] <JF1976> ever had to fix a disk check error after upgrade ?
[12:41] <JF1976> disk is fine, just runs a check on every boot? 10.04 - 12.04
[12:48] <learnLinux> when at this learn linux website and clicking on module 1 which does come up, I cannot see any of the " click on the right arrow" buttons.  what software am I missing?     http://linuxsurvival.com/LinuxSurv1/start-win.php
[12:50] <delo> hello every body
[12:50] <paco_> hi!!!!
[12:50] <delo> it'my first time in it
[12:51] <paco_> me too
[12:51] <paco_> :)
[12:51] <JF1976> you both users or looking to start..
[12:52] <delo> hi~~~
[12:52] <delo> where are you come from?
[12:54] <kujah> hola
[12:54] <learnLinux> I have a new installation and I am sure Im missing some ad on or plugin to help me view all things on web pages... Can someone take a look at this webpage and tell me what I am missing from the software center.. thanks.when at this learn linux website and clicking on module 1 which does come up, I cannot see any of the " click on the right arrow" buttons.  what software am I missing?     http://linuxsurvival.com/LinuxSurv1/start-win
[12:54] <learnLinux> .php
[12:56] <kujah> Hi
[12:56] <learnLinux> Nevermind!! I was using the windoze link instead of linux..
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> learnLinux  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[12:56] <JF1976> learnLinux, have you installed the ubuntu-restricted-* packages
[12:58] <JF1976> delo, register your nick and request a host cloak :- https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=register+your+nick+and+request+a+host+cloak+freenode&btnG=Search&sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=d&site=
[12:58] <cfhowlett> kujah: greetings
[12:58] <JF1976> are you new to irc ?
[12:58] <evrardo> yes
[12:58] <delo> me too
[12:59] <kujah> I am a new boy in the chat
[12:59] <kujah> I want looking this channel in spanish please help
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !es|kujah
[13:00] <evrardo> how can find help about ubuntu?
[13:00] <delo> and I am a new ubuntu user...
[13:00] <cfhowlett> evrardo: Ask your question here
[13:01] <evrardo> how can install usb webcam on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:01] <delo> there are much god boy could give some help
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> !webcam | evrardo
[13:02] <evrardo> thanks
[13:02] <JF1976> more than likely evrardo, if you havent installed ubuntu yet have a go with the livecd check system requirements for you device..
[13:04] <yun> haii all
[13:04] <cfhowlett> yun: greetings
[13:05] <tymnet> Hi guys, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
[13:06] <yun> yeah happy new year
[13:06] <tymnet> anyone about to answer a quick question? should I install 12.10 or 12.04 lts?
[13:07] <ThinkT510> tymnet: whichever meets your needs
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> tymnet  depends on what you prefer
[13:07] <tymnet> this will be my first time on linux
[13:07] <tymnet> i don't know which suites me more
[13:07] <ThinkT510> tymnet: try 12.04 in a vm
[13:07] <tymnet> whats the most used in the community?
[13:08] <lvleph> can someone help me with audio through hdmi using radeon driver?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> tymnet: 12.04 is a Long Term Support version with desktop support for 5 years.  LTS tends to be more polished than interim versions.
[13:08] <lvleph> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]
[13:08] <Mechdave> tymnet, I would install 12.04 first, it is less bleeding edge and is more likely to work properly, besides it has updates for a long time to come
[13:08] <jrgifford> tymnet: i prefer 12.04 for desktops, 12.10 for laptops. however, i seem to be in the minority here, so feel free to ignore me. :)
[13:09] <lvleph> Linux Media-PC 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 5 17:42:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:09] <lvleph> ubuntu 12.04
[13:09] <tymnet> so most people use 12.04
[13:09] <Mechdave> I use 12.04
[13:09] <ThinkT510> tymnet: i can't answer for most people but i tend to use the latest stable
[13:09] <tymnet> more of a ready for daily use thing like the pre releases of android os's
[13:10] <cfhowlett> tymnet: LTS then.  12.04 is the most recent LTS
[13:10] <tymnet> so whats the benefits to using 12.10?
[13:10] <ThinkT510> tymnet: more recent kernel and apps
[13:10] <cfhowlett> tymnet: people like shiny, new things ...
[13:10] <jrgifford> tymnet: slightly newer software, that's about it.
[13:11] <jrgifford> for AMD computers i recommend 12.04, since they broke some things in 12.10.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> tymnet: consider the non-LTS versions as test-beds for the LTS releases
[13:11] <tymnet> thanks guys for this. there's doesn't seem to be a straight forward answer on the net to this question
[13:11] <tymnet> beta
[13:11] <tymnet> i get you
[13:12] <tymnet> looking forward to chatting here after the reinstall and working with you guys :)
[13:12] <Mechdave> 12.10 is newer versions of software and newer ideas implemented by ubuntu. 12.04 is slightly older but much more stable.
[13:12] <ThinkT510> tymnet: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is purely support
[13:12] <blami> tymnet: also, in case of need with all this infrastructure around ubuntu is really not hard to build newer software to fit your 12.04 installation
[13:13] <tymnet> oh :)
[13:13] <Mechdave> I recommend you to install 12.04
[13:13] <tymnet> thanks guys
[13:14] <tymnet> open source for life!
[13:14] <ThinkT510> blami: building newer software to work on 12.04 means you won't get support for that here
[13:14] <matt21067> hey, anyone have any expierience with wubi.exe?
[13:14] <ThinkT510> matt21067: better off without it
[13:14] <vlt> !anyone | matt21067
[13:15] <cfhowlett> matt21067: wubi is for testing ubuntu.  If you really want to install it, consider dual booting or virtualbox
[13:15] <blami> ThinkT510: that's true ...
[13:16] <matt21067> how do those work? do i need a disc to install, or could i install another way?
[13:16] <genius> hi
[13:16] <genius> friends
[13:16] <genius> can anyone help me
[13:16] <jrgifford> cfhowlett: with all due respect, i beg to differ. wubi is good for a lot of things, and not nessecarily just for testing out ubuntu. i recommend wubi for those who want to do a dual-boot without the potential issues.
[13:16] <vlt> !ask | genius
[13:16] <ThinkT510> genius: only if you describe your issue
[13:16] <cfhowlett> jrgifford: the developers have stated wubi is for testing ...
[13:17] <jrgifford> cfhowlett: got a link to the wiki?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> jrgifford: but I appreciate your sentiment
[13:17] <vesurimies> Hi all
[13:17] <genius> i was trying to install citadel
[13:17] <vesurimies> could someone help me
[13:17] <genius> on ubuntu
[13:17] <genius> and backtrack
[13:17] <vesurimies> i have problem with wine
[13:17] <ThinkT510> genius: backtrack isn't supported here
[13:17] <genius> but i was getting allot of error
[13:17] <ThinkT510> !enter | genius
[13:18] <cfhowlett> jrgifford: as in have I seen the wiki?  Yes
[13:18] <ThinkT510> vesurimies: the guys in #winehq can help better
[13:18] <vesurimies> I cannot seem to find way to ~/.config/urw3-Linux/ how will I get there? I have to add one file in that location, thats all
[13:18] <jrgifford> cfhowlett: It says on the download page "With our officially supported Windows installer, you can install and uninstall Ubuntu easily and safely", so I think it works. anyway, not trying to pick a fight, just stating an opinion on wubi.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> jrgifford: fair enough.  No worries
[13:19] <ThinkT510> vesurimies: ~ == /home/username
[13:20] <vesurimies> hmm where do i put that, think
[13:20] <matt21067> i installed ubuntu via wubi before and it worked just fine. i booted into ubuntu, updated and it was good. i had a bad LCD TV then tho which gave me problems with it, now i have a much better monitor and would like to reinstall
[13:20] <uu88> how to write zeros to multiple drives with 'dd'?
[13:21] <Mechdave> uu88, google zero hard drive with dd
[13:21] <matt21067> the problem, however, is that when i run wubi, nothing happens. no prompts or splash screens or anything.
[13:21] <TakeItEZ> !google | Mechdave
[13:21] <JF1976> vesurimies, get a console [ctrl]+[alt]+[t], then type " mkdir -pv ~/.config/urw3-Linux/ " without quotes
[13:21] <vlt> uu88: You could use either tee or some shell magig (zsh ftw)-
[13:21] <TakeItEZ> uu88: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[13:22] <JF1976> this will make the path you are requesting,
, I already did and all I got is how to zero ONE drive, but how to zero multiple drives I still don't know
[13:23] <vlt> uu88: Just multiple dd processes, tee or shell redirection. I'd just take the first option.
[13:23] <uu88> are you sure /dev/sdX could work?
[13:23] <TakeItEZ> uu88: not to  zero multiple in ONE run, no
[13:24] <Mechdave> uu88, It does take a long time to zero 1 hd, in order to zero many you will need to write a script to be executed in bash
[13:24] <matt21067> does anyone know what could be wrong? i've tried all kinds of compatibility settings. before it worked just fine, no hitches, but this time it's just being a pain. i've tried searching google for a solution, but nothing has worked so far
[13:24] <vlt> uu88: Have a look at ddrescue which runs with faster default values or "shred".
[13:25] <Mechdave> uu88, something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever; dd etc etc Or you could write dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr* maybe
[13:25] <uu88> so, when I will run the script dd will zero one drive and once it is finished will take the other one, right?
[13:25] <vlt> uu88: "shred" has a "-z" option and "-n 0" instantly zeroes the drive (instead of multiple random writes before).
[13:26] <Mechdave> uu88, Yep, that is right... Best check with the bash manual first though... My bash scripting is a bit rusty!
[13:27] <vlt> uu88: If you want it not one after another, there are several options. The easiest one would be to run several processes simultaneously.
[13:27] <Mechdave> uu88, If you want to just do a file or a group of files then shred is the go
[13:27] <uu88> vlt, you mean 2 drives would be zerod simultaneously?
[13:27] <WDKevin> I have 2 drives being delivered today that will be the host drives for my new server. They are to be exact replicas of each other, but I'm not looking to use RAID. Is this something that I can do with ZFS?
[13:28] <ThinkT510> !zfs | WDKevin
[13:28] <WDKevin> ThinkT510, thank you, but that does not answer my question
[13:29] <uu88> thanks, guys, I got good advice fro you. I'll start testing..
[13:29] <roman_345> hi
[13:30] <ThinkT510> WDKevin: it tells you how to use zfs on ubuntu and its state of support, other than that i can't think why you would ask a zfs question on a ubuntu channel
[13:33] <matt21067> so no one here knows?
[13:33] <ThinkT510> matt21067: not many here use or even like wubi
[13:35] <JF1976> matt21067, download the latest livecd version and try booting it live, are you looking to fix the current install or provide a more stable reinstall?
[13:37] <matt21067> i'm assuming you need a CD for livecd version?
[13:37] <vesurimies> demons!!! my computer is possessed by demons!!! I hear voices!!!
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> vesurimies  wrong channel
[13:37] <vk> hi
[13:38] <cfhowlett> vk: greetings
[13:38] <joey8> vesurimies→ turn your volume down ヅ
[13:38] <JF1976> tbf im thinking last time i downloaded a latest it was dvd sized, however you can use USB if you device boots from USB
[13:39] <roman_345> hi, what is this chat for? I'am first time on irc
[13:39] <matt21067> i would like to use the windows installer again because it's simpler, and i don't have any spare CDs around and i'm not sure if i have a USB drive to use..although i might be able to rig up a spare HDD and use it as a USB drive to install from..if that's even possible
[13:39] <ThinkT510> roman_345: ubuntu support
[13:40] <JF1976> matt21067, are you looking to install the 12.04 LTS or the 12.10 version, also have you decided on Ubuntu or another Ubuntu such as xUbuntu
[13:40] <matt21067> 12.10
[13:40] <matt21067> and Ubuntu
[13:40] <roman_345> u can install from usb thumb drive
[13:40] <JF1976> ok so you have a working windows system and you want to update the wubi,
[13:41] <vk> im using ubuntu 12.04, how to find buffered flv files location,   firefox  11.0 is in place.  earlier flv files used to get stored in /tmp files. pls help i dont wish to use  plugins and download flash videos seperatedly, i wish to get locate buffered flv files only. Hope this is what every one wishes...
[13:41] <JF1976> from my understanding the best way to do that is via the windows add remove ? you i think you remove like standard app then download the latest wubi and install the same way you would for windows,
[13:41] <matt21067> i am working from windows 7 x64, i don't currently have Ubuntu installed on this machine, and i've downloaded wubi.exe 3 times or more just this morning and tried to run with no success
[13:42] <JF1976> go buy yourself a nice new usb pen drive 2Gb should be fine but 4Gb will do a dvd so i would get that ;)
[13:43] <b33nj> ThinkT510, http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/1212/d1/2fdd43de9521.jpg
[13:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: please don't post things like that here
[13:44] <JF1976> then download the ubuntu you want to use and follow the guide to create a usb boot from the iso, reboot live and see how the device responds, i take it your up to spec cpu ram wise ?
[13:44] <b33nj> ThinkT510, why?
[13:44] <ThinkT510> b33nj: many beginners join this channel
[13:44] <JF1976> pm it so the person or else its spam
[13:44] <exalt> hello, can anyone update me with news about nvidia native optimus support progress?
[13:45] <b33nj> ThinkT510, how can i send pm to you?
[13:45] <iceroot> exalt: still not good so you have to use bumblebee
[13:45] <matt21067> this PC is capable of running Ubuntu. i've had it running it before on the exact machine, so i know at least it will run
[13:46] <ThinkT510> b33nj: /msg nick whatever you want to say
[13:46] <exalt> iceroot: i read that there was proof of concept
[13:47] <b33nj> ThinkT510, have you received the pm?
[13:47] <iceroot> exalt: there is one big issue, the licence. nvidia wants to do some special things but the licence does not allow to use closed source in that case (shared drm access)
[13:47] <ThinkT510> b33nj: multiple times, stop it
[13:47] <JF1976> lol
[13:47] <iceroot> exalt: it was this "nvidia fuck you" and there reaction to that
[13:47] <b33nj> ThinkT510, sorry, i thought they weren't sent
[13:48] <ThinkT510> iceroot: no need for that language here
[13:48] <iceroot> ThinkT510: i am just quoting
[13:48] <ThinkT510> iceroot: still applies
[13:48] <iceroot> ThinkT510: send your worries to linus
[13:49] <ThinkT510> !guidlines | iceroot
[13:49] <ThinkT510> !guidelines | iceroot
[13:49] <b33nj> linux torvalds
[13:49] <iceroot> exalt: but there is a proof of concept yes, with only one xserver running, bumblebee is using 2 x-servers at the moment
[13:49] <blami> iceroot: not linus, better to send them to alan cox
[13:49] <iceroot> blami: that quote was from linus
[13:49] <iceroot> blami: but yes i know what you mean :)
[13:49] <exalt> iceroot: and the problem is there is not full support of the graphics card with bumblebee
[13:50] <blami> iceroot: yeah but nvidia tried then. They have dmabuf support in driver but they can't link gpl symbols
[13:50] <iceroot> exalt: bumblebee is using the non-free nvidia drivers and starts 2 x-servers
[13:50] <iceroot> blami: yes that was the issue
[13:50] <blami> bumblebee is weirdo hack
[13:51] <iceroot> blami: but working fine here
[13:51] <HOBOTOMTOMGPS> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:51] <iceroot> even with steam games
[13:52] <blami> iceroot: not here, as my t420 has both dvi's wired to nvidia only so I can't have reliable multihead with bumblebee ... hope dave airlie prime will make it into Xorg soon
[13:52] <scooby> I have a system where I need to get to the root shell - I manage to do a sudo su - but when there it tells me that output is not a terminal when I try and edit and even simple commands like echo do no output
[13:53] <iceroot> scooby: sudo su is wrong
[13:53] <iceroot> scooby: its setting the env wrong
[13:54] <iceroot> scooby: you "want" sudo -i  but normally you dont want a root-shell, only normal sudo
[13:54] <scooby> iceroot:  OK - let me try that - stand by please
[13:56] <scooby> iceroot:  just did the sudo -i - seemed to get to a shall but when I go there: vi test gives me Vim: Warning: Output is not a terminal
[13:56] <iceroot> scooby: screen?
[13:57] <iceroot> scooby: or something like  ssh foo@bar sudo -i?
[13:58] <scooby> iceroot: I am at a screen if that is what you mean - have not tried ssh to it - do you mean from another machine?
[13:58] <iceroot> scooby: i am talking about GNU screen  not a monitor
[13:58] <iceroot> scooby: i am not sure if you can change the user in screen and get the new correct terminal
[13:59] <blami> scooby: what says echo $TERM?
[13:59] <scooby> iceroo
[14:00] <TakeItEZ> iceroot: screen has no problems with sudo -i, more a terminal-issue i guess
[14:00] <scooby> iceroot:  the strange thing is that I do this all the time on other computers and have no problems - and yes through xfce
[14:00] <iceroot> TakeItEZ: ok, wasnt sure about that, thanks
[14:00] <scooby> blami:  see above - even echo does not work
[14:01] <ubuntu> hi
[14:01] <blami> scooby: and 'set'?
[14:02] <blami> scooby: but still it seems like you're trying to do something from script or so (stdout is not terminal)
[14:03] <scooby> blami - I agree - and as far as I know I am really at a shell since I move there from a shell - using su
[14:03] <HoNgOuRu> hi, any good xml editor ?
[14:04] <scooby> HoNgOuRu:  emacs
[14:04] <HoNgOuRu> yeah right... thank u scooby
[14:04] <HoNgOuRu> I am trying to avoid text editors
[14:04] <HoNgOuRu> I mean, I need an XSD editor as well
[14:05] <Therion87> Anyone using the Dell Sputnik yet?
[14:05] <scooby> blami:  and iceroot  this is not worth a lot of problem - I will just dd from another working system - they are supposed to all be the same anyway - so I am assuming something messed up on this one - probably best to reload
[14:06] <scooby> HoNgOuRu: if not text then what - xml is text
[14:08] <KaiserThaws> Hello, I have this message in my log every minute : "pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)" do you know the reason of that ?
[14:09] <iceroot> KaiserThaws: maybe cron, there can be many reasons
[14:10] <iceroot> KaiserThaws: or any other process which needs root-access is validating through pam
[14:10] <Ronalds_M> hi everyone
[14:10] <technikfreak> my pidgin takes a huge of processor on my netbook with xubuntu
[14:10] <technikfreak> is that normal?
[14:10] <KaiserThaws> iceroot: yes it's cron related
[14:11] <KaiserThaws> but I have nothing in my crontab
[14:11] <Biomechd> hey, i never did get the weird update/keysignature thing fixed, but right now there's another issue: my touchpad has shut down. if it weren't for the little pressure button thing in the middle of my keyboard, i probably wouldn't be able to do much of anything without a restart right now.
[14:11] <iceroot> KaiserThaws: /etc/cron.d/
[14:11] <iceroot> KaiserThaws: also see crontab for root
[14:12] <Ronalds_M> why linux gets to 50 celsium without nothing
[14:12] <Ronalds_M> when on windows, it's always lower
[14:12] <Ronalds_M> I have xfce+ubuntu
[14:13] <Ronalds_M> something like 5-10 grades difference
[14:13] <Biomechd> windblows produces more forced air current, so it naturally stays cooler lol
[14:13] <Ronalds_M> between windows and ubuntu
[14:13] <Ronalds_M> nice explanation
[14:13] <Biomechd> (not really, i'm just not a windows fan and like poking fun at it)
[14:14] <Ronalds_M> I don't like windows at all
[14:14] <Ronalds_M> I'm just want to know is it normal
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:14] <Biomechd> no clue.
[14:15] <Ronalds_M> on linux it takes 500 mb of RAM, while on windows it's 1,6 gb
[14:15] <KaiserThaws> iceroot: I have two files on etc/cron.d and one executing "09,39 *     * * *"
[14:15] <Ronalds_M> but linux heats more
[14:15] <KaiserThaws> but never seen that kind of value in the first spot. What does it mean ?
[14:15] <ThinkT510> Ronalds_M: ram is there to be used
[14:15] <Guest58555> lol
[14:16] <TakeItEZ> KaiserThaws: every hour+09minute and +39minutes
[14:16] <Biomechd> perhaps linux uses more processing power and demands more?
[14:16] <KaiserThaws> TakeItEZ: alright thanks :-)
[14:16] <Ronalds_M> perhaps
[14:16] <HoNgOuRu> any xml editor like xmlspy ?
[14:17] <TakeItEZ> KaiserThaws: "man 5 crontab" for further explanation
[14:17] <Biomechd> would anyone happen to know why my touchpad crashed? i can do without alt-lmb&drag for now, but losing my touchpad is going to severely decrease my productivity.
[14:18] <KaiserThaws> TakeItEZ: Thanks, i'm just trying to understand why a root session is open by cron every minute
[14:19] <Biomechd> i really just wanna know how to restart my touchpad so i can use it again without having to restart it.
[14:19] <matt21067> would it be at all possible to install ubuntu from a USB HDD or android phone attached to USB?
[14:19] <Biomechd> (restart the computer, that is)
[14:19] <christaras> Hi guys. I have a problem. Ubuntu always uses vesa drivers instead of AMD Catalyst FGLRX. Why is that so? it happens on  13.04 12.10 12.04 . Can you help me fix that
[14:19] <Biomechd> logically, yes, matt21067
[14:20] <ThinkT510> christaras: did you install fglrx?
[14:20] <Biomechd> ...13.04?
[14:20] <christaras> yes
[14:20] <bao_> i can't play left 4 dead on Ubuntu. I installed Wine
[14:20] <christaras> I installed many versions (13.04 is in aplha stage)
[14:21] <ThinkT510> christaras: 13.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until release
[14:21] <christaras> Well the problem exists in every version of ubuntu not just 13.04
[14:22] <Dead-i> Hi, for some reason every time I boot into my Ubuntu Server setup I am unable to access the internet. However, when I type "sudo restart networking", it works again?
[14:22] <Biomechd> could someone please tell me how to restart my touchpad?
[14:22] <ThinkT510> christaras: i don't know what cards fglrx supports, perhaps your ati card is too old?
[14:23] <christaras> no it is 6450 HD. it is still supported
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> Dead-i  if you can ping an IP address, but not surf to it, it's a DNS issue -- DNS translates an IP address to an url
[14:23] <DrShoggoth> O_o
[14:23] <DrShoggoth> DNS translates the hostname from the url to an IP address
[14:24] <b14d3> I think Monkey meant DNS translates an IP FROM a url :P
[14:24] <b14d3> He knew where he was going with it, his fingers just made him incorrect :P
[14:25] <ubunoob> Hello all, I am trying to get a small server running, I have four windows computers and they connect to the internet through my ubu machine. I did a dhcp setup and ICS. that worked fine. I wanted all the winboxes on static IP so I changed that. everything was working just fine until I played around with squid, now all the windows pcs say the dns server is unreachable despite being able to ping my ubu machine. I have tried everything I ca
[14:25] <ubunoob> n think of, can someone please, please help me?
[14:25] <christaras> no he was mean and he did it on purpose :P
[14:25] <christaras> So guys no idea about why ubuntu uses VESA instead of FGLRX?
[14:26] <ThinkT510> christaras: check if your card isn't blacklisted
[14:27] <Kartagis> when I clicked on my program icons to make them launchers, their icon turned into question marks. any ideas?
[14:27] <christaras> It is not blacklisted it is compatible with linux. Even in amd site it says that. Also the old and wise google says that.
[14:28] <christaras> Google Knows everything
[14:30] <tymnet> hey guys, just wanting to confirm. install 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[14:31] <LordOfTime> tymnet, depends on what you want: long term stability and security updates, or more cutting edge than stable.
[14:31] <LordOfTime> s/cutting edge/newer software/
[14:31] <LordOfTime> tymnet, 12.04's pretty stable though.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> tymnet: consider this: if you don't mind the risks/rewards of updating every 6 months, don't install LTS.
[14:32] <tymnet> what do the majority of the community run?
[14:32] <christaras> Hey guys has anyone tested latest kernel 3.8 on 12.10?
[14:33] <Biomechd> christaras, if google knows everything, why has it not told me how to restart my lenovo thinkpad edge 15's touchpad? i'm forced to use the little pressure button thing in the middle of the keyboard or restart my laptop.
[14:34] <Biomechd> (and i'd rather not restart if i can just type in a command or something and go back to using my touchpad, but with the time it's taking, it would have been much faster and easier to just restart anyway)
[14:34] <christaras> Well by using linux i have to say one this for it for sure.
[14:35] <ThinkT510> Biomechd: tried finding out which kernel module is loaded for your touchpad?
[14:35] <Dead-i> MonkeyDust: I get "Destination Host Unreachable"
[14:35] <Biomechd> ThinkT510, how would i do that?
[14:35] <christaras> It is way too complex And has many problems.
[14:35] <ThinkT510> Biomechd: lsmod will list the modules loaded
[14:37] <Biomechd> ThinkT510, "psmouse" says it's being used by 0
[14:38] <Biomechd> ThinkT510, that's the only thing i can find that looks like it would be related to the touchpad
[14:38] <ThinkT510> Biomechd: says same here and my touchpad is fine
[14:39] <TakeItEZ> Dead-i: and what dns-server do your windows-machine use (ipconfig /all)? can they ping that ip? is that the correct dns-ip?
[14:39] <Biomechd> ThinkT510, what is your touchpad connected to in the lsmod list?
[14:40] <Dead-i> TakeItEZa: I meant I get  "Destination Host Unreachable" when I ping an IP (in this case, 173.194.41.129) :)
[14:40] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: They're PS/2 touchpads, pretty standard thinkpad stuff
[14:40] <ThinkT510> Biomechd: no idea
[14:40] <TakeItEZ> Dead-i: and what dns-server do your windows-machine use (ipconfig /all)? can they ping that ip? is that the correct dns-ip?
[14:40] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: For legacy purposes
[14:40] <LordOfTime> TakeItEZ, DNS-IP is irrelevant if they can't reach the outside
[14:40] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, so are you saying these crashes are common for them?
[14:40] <LordOfTime> TakeItEZ, if they're getting Destination Host Unreachable for an external IP it means they have no network access to the internet
[14:41] <LordOfTime> usually at least
[14:41] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Maybe a devicekit issue related to FN+F8?
[14:41] <Sling> do I need to enable something special when putting a script in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ ? i've made the script, chmod+x, running it manually does what i want (iptables-restore < /root/firewall) but on a reboot iptables is empty again
[14:41] <Dead-i> I use a Mac instead of Windows, so I'm not sure what the Mac equivalent of that is.
[14:41] <Dead-i> Yeah, I have no network access unless I run "restart networking" manually, but I would like networking to work without me having to run that
[14:41] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Something in userland? I actually have no idea what you're talking about, i'll read back a bit
[14:42] <TakeItEZ> Dead-i: sry i put you in the wrong context (other guys issue)
[14:42] <Dead-i> TakeItEZ: np :)
[14:43] <Kartagis> Sling: do you iptables-save?
[14:43] <memand> Hey guys, I'm running 12.04 and have a laptop with a Nvidia gt555m and an intel i5 with intel graphics on it, I can see that there is a driver set for the Nvidia chip loaded called nouveau and a driver for the intel chip called i915. I installed Xscreensaver and get really choppy performance, so my guess is that the Nvidia chip is not being used properly. Any thoughts on that?
[14:43] <Sling> Kartagis: yes, that is what generated the /root/firewall file
[14:43] <Sling> i dont iptables-save automatically anywhere though
[14:44] <Kartagis> Sling: you do iptables-save after putting in rules
[14:44] <LordOfTime> Sling, you should iptables-save after you add rules
[14:44] <LordOfTime> so that they're saved somewhere.
[14:44] <Sling> ehm
[14:44] <Sling> they are already in the /root/firewall file
[14:45] <Sling> iptables works fine when running the script i have in pre-up
[14:45] <LordOfTime> oops old data :PP
[14:45] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: PS/2 is from the 80s and really standard, and there aren't any thinkpads with USB Touchpads or trackpoints. That is, they work even in DOS without drivers. I actually didn't have IRC logging on, no idea what your issue is.
[14:45] <Sling> it just doesnt execute the script on boot
[14:45]  * LordOfTime wasn't scrolled down :P
[14:45] <LordOfTime> Sling, add it to rc.local then
[14:45] <Sling> well yeah i can put it in other places too
[14:45] <LordOfTime> Sling, or install iptables-persistent and use /etc/iptables/rules.v4 and /etc/iptables/rules.v6
[14:45] <Sling> just want to know why pre-up doesn;'t work
[14:45] <LordOfTime> (iptables-persistent's easier :P)
[14:46] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, my issue is that my touchpad randomly crashed, and it does this sometimes (don't keep track of how often)
[14:46] <Sling> i guess the rules.v6 would be nicer then having another script for ip6tables
[14:46] <LordOfTime> Sling, you'll still need to ip6tables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v6
[14:46] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: And you've tried pressing FN+F8, which disables/re-enables it?
[14:46] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, if it weren't for the little pressure button thing in my touchpad, i'd be without a mouse right now unless i restarted my laptop.
[14:46] <Sling> LordOfTime: yes i know how iptables works :)
[14:47] <LordOfTime> Sling, and iptables-persistent will load iptables at load time
[14:47] <LordOfTime> (i.e. boot)
[14:47] <Sling> using what hook though?
[14:47] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Do you get a indication of the "Touchpad On/Off" symbol when you press FN+F8?
[14:47] <Sling> as in, what would make iptables-persistent apply the rules on boot, and my pre-up script not
[14:47] <ewook> LordOfTime: doesn't a script in /etc/network/interfaces/if-up.d/script.file.sh work anymore? ^^;
[14:47] <TakeItEZ> Sling: if-pre-up.d is meant to work
[14:48] <Sling> yes, thats what I thought
[14:48] <LordOfTime> ewook, not sure, but the easiest method is to use iptables-persistent
[14:48] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, fn+f8 on my keyboard is f8. my keyboard's a bit weird in that what would normally be secondary functions of the f# keys are instead the primary functions.
[14:48] <ewook> LordOfTime: okidok. when did that change?  :S
[14:48] <LordOfTime> ewook, i think its always been that way... *checks the iptables howto*
[14:48] <Sling> id rather not go for 'easiest method' as soon as something doesn't work :)
[14:48] <Sling> LordOfTime: its not something iptables specific im doing here
[14:48] <LordOfTime> Sling, i understand, i'm talking to ewook now :P
[14:49] <Sling> its just a bash command that is supposed to be ran before bringing eth0 up
[14:49] <LordOfTime> ewook, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup  <-- always been there in solution #3
[14:49] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, and none of the keys show any sort of mouse/touchpad-related icon.
[14:49] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: You've just started with Linux, and you're on 13.04? It's not ready yet. I am absolutely sure that it works perfectly on 12.10 and has for years
[14:50] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, no, somebody else is using 13.04. i simply inquired about it. i'm using 12.10.
[14:50] <ewook> LordOfTime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration_on_startup
[14:50] <ewook> LordOfTime: lol :p
[14:51] <memand> Hey guys, I'm running 12.04 and have a laptop with a Nvidia gt555m and an intel i5 with intel graphics on it, I can see that there is a driver set for the Nvidia chip loaded called nouveau and a driver for the intel chip called i915. I installed Xscreensaver and get really choppy performance, so my guess is that the Nvidia chip is not being used properly. Any thoughts on that?
[14:52] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Tried making a new user account and see if you can get the indication? It's almost certainly a configuration problem in userland, not a kernel problem. Maybe devicekit. Did the button ever work? Like it works in Windows, correct?
[14:52] <ewook> memand: nouveau isn't that good..
[14:52] <memand> ewook: Ok, do you know of a better driver and how to get it?
[14:52] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: and you want into Mouse and Touchpad settings and tried unticking "Disable touchpad when Typing"? Maybe something's broken there.
[14:53] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, i don't use windows very often, and i haven't had this problem in windows before that i know of.
[14:53] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Do you have gpointing-device-settings installed, maybe?
[14:53] <ewook> memand: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[14:54] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, i could try it. it doesn't seem like having that option ticked is doing anything anyway. i still end up doing random crap while my thumb rests on the touchpad when i'm doing stuff.
[14:54] <ewook> memand: that's the PPA I'd recommend.
[14:54] <Jitesh> ok guys,i just installed ubuntu 12.10 along side windows 7 and after installation i restarted pc and after selecting UBUNTU from GRUB it was showing me attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[14:54] <ewook> memand: using it with my lenovo w530, still not perfect due to my weird gfx-combo, but works well with the nvidia.
[14:55] <Dead-i> does anyone have any ideas as to why I need to run 'sudo networking restart' for my networking to work on boot?
[14:55] <memand> ewook: Ok thanks :) and when I add the ppa it should automatically detect the driver update?
[14:56] <Sling> Dead-i: anything in dmesg about networking after booting? or in syslolg
[14:56] <Sling> syslog even
[14:56] <Sling> also how did you configure your network
[14:56] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, messing with the disabled-during-typing option didn't do anything. i toggled it off and on with no effect.
[14:56] <ewook> memand: if a update/upgrade doesn't , simply ask to install the nvidia packet as provided in the ppa - lesse if I can find a more accurate guide for it.
[14:57] <Dead-i> Sling: In my network interfaces I have lo, p4p1 and xenbr0 configured.
[14:57] <ewook> memand: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104527/how-do-i-install-the-latest-nvidia-drivers-via-the-additional-drivers-tool
[14:57] <ewook> memand: that link contains all the steps what I can see :).
[14:57] <memand> ewook: Cool, thanks :) it's actually surprisingly hard to find info on getting nvidia chips to work :)
[14:57] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: do you have the "gpointing-device-settings" program installed? People used to install it before gnome got better support for trackpoints and touchpads, but I think that it causes major problems
[14:58] <ggherdov> Hi all. I am building some code, and the configure script complains with "error: GLib >= 2.28 is required". Question: what is the package providing GLib on ubuntu 10.04 ? "apt-cache search glib" didn't help much.
[14:58] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Wifi?
[14:58] <ewook> memand: yeah.. well, you could install it directly from nvidia.. but.. geh.. that's gonna break quick.
[14:58] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Chipset? Try reading through dmesg?
[14:58] <b14d3> ewook: That's assuming it works in the first place :)
[14:58] <memand> ewook: Yeah I heard a rumor about that :P
[14:59] <memand> it's amazing that they still don't provide proper suport for *nix
[14:59] <Jitesh> ok guys,i just installed ubuntu 12.10 along side windows 7 and after installation i restarted pc and after selecting UBUNTU from GRUB it was showing me attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0' any 1 know how to solve this issue?? please
[14:59] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, no, i don't, and in fact i just did sudo apt-get remove to make sure it wasn't.
[14:59] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Though I have a wireless card, I'm using the Ethernet port in my motherboard (p4p1).
[15:00] <iDM|Busy> Ubuntu on Galaxy S2 bad idea kids!
[15:01] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: and did it start happening suddenly or from when you first installed Ubuntu?
[15:02] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Just spotted dmesg says "p4p1: link down" if that's any use
[15:02] <Dead-i> I had originally configured Ubuntu to use wlan0, but I've changed it to p4p1. This seems to be happening after every boot after changing it to p4p1.
[15:02] <ewook> b14d3: ah, well it does, or did for me a couple of versions ago (around 304.x I think)
[15:02] <memand> ewook: Just did an update/upgrade gonna reboot and see what happens, if it's still buggy I'll check that link out. Thanks for the help and info :)
[15:02] <ewook> memand: well, they kinda do.. but I hear ya..
[15:02] <b14d3> ewook: I've heard of it working (however briefly) but have never actually seen it happen with my own eyes lol
[15:02] <ewook> memand: gl!
[15:03] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, any other ideas?
[15:03] <ewook> b14d3: Mine worked for two reboots - if the x-config actually worked :p.
[15:04] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: No idea......but I bet a new user account wouldn't have that problem, meaning that there's probably some weird setting in dconf, which you could look for using dconf-editor
[15:05] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Basically idiopathic, screw it ;)
[15:05] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Since running "sudo restart networking" seems to fix it, is there any way of running that at boot or something? :S
[15:05] <Sling> what was the package/setting again for having to confirm iptables changes, and rolling them back within X seconds if unconfirmed?
[15:05] <Sling> or is that just a script somebody made
[15:06] <TakeItEZ> Sling: its just a script/cronjob
[15:07] <kevinliu> hello
[15:07] <joey8> kevinliu→ hello
[15:07] <diverdude> Does anyone know if there is a way to remote control spotify running on a ubuntu machine from an android device?
[15:07] <kevinliu> hello
[15:08] <Sling> TakeItEZ: a cronjob?
[15:08] <Sling> i dont want to periodically change my firewall :p
[15:08] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Yes, but that's a pretty messed up way of fixing it. Has it been this way ever since you first installed Ubuntu, or did it just show up suddenly? Under "Startup Applications" you can run the command "gksudo restart networking" without quotation marks. Not really a fix, but whatever.
[15:08] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Then you'll have to type your password in every time your desktop pops up after logon
[15:08] <dufa> diverdude: I'd guess vnc would be easiest to set upp
[15:09] <TakeItEZ> Sling: its just for testing purposes. as long as you fiddle with new rules, let a cronjob reset iptables every xxx minutes
[15:09] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: It has been that way since setting up p4p1.
[15:09] <diverdude> dufa, hmm for spotify? Are you sure
[15:09] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: I'm using Ubuntu Server, not the Desktop version :)
[15:09] <Sling> TakeItEZ: no thanks
[15:09] <TakeItEZ> Sling: after you're done, you remove the cronjob of course
[15:09] <Sling> its a wrapper around iptables
[15:11] <dufa> diverdude: oh, I didnt read carefully enough, yeah, vnc is overkill
[15:11] <diverdude> dufa, hmm this might be an idea to try
[15:11] <diverdude> dufa, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cewan.spotify&hl=en
[15:12] <ocontant> hi
[15:13] <Sling> ill continue /win 2
[15:13] <Sling> oops
[15:13] <Biomechd> sequencesequence, since you mention dconf-editor, would you happen to know where i could go to permanently disable alt-lmb&drag for moving windows, or at least to change it to, say, super-lmb&drag?
[15:14] <dufa> diverdude: seems there is an app for that https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cewan.spotify&hl=en it's free, you might want to check it out
[15:15] <dufa> sorry its the same link
[15:15] <domdom> hi every one
[15:16] <domdom> i dont know if it's a problem or not but i noticed that when i do "apt-get upgrade"
[15:16] <domdom> i get "The following packages have been kept back:"
[15:16] <domdom> lintian linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[15:16] <domdom> is that normal ?
[15:17] <TheLordOfTime> domdom, i see that on my server, linux-* usually gets held back because it updates the kernel and requires a reboot
[15:17] <b14d3> Yep. Do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" without the quotation marks
[15:17] <BluesKaj> it's not a problem , it's normal
[15:17] <domdom> ok thanks :)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> domdom,^
[15:17] <TheLordOfTime> and BluesKaj's right, its not a problem its Working As Intended
[15:18] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: Can't remember the key, but you can do it using move plugin of compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:19] <Nightwatch> can someone help me lock users to their home directory in vsftpd?
[15:19] <sequencesequence> Biomechd: aka ccsm
[15:20] <wh0dat> after cloning my 500gb hdd to a 2TB one, I can't boot ubuntu from the new drive. however if i mount it, everything is there. tried even doing a grub-install, and still will not boot. what am I missing?
[15:21] <Sling> wh0dat: how did you clone it?
[15:21] <wh0dat> sling: ddrescue command
[15:21] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: I bet your problem is that the fact that the ethernet interface is being called p4p1 instead of eth0 or something more normal, it's screwing up some configuration file? Like did you just upgrade your motherboard or ethernet card or something?
[15:21] <Sling> wh0dat: and does the partition have the bootable bit set, and mbr installed?
[15:21] <Sling> the boot partition, that is
[15:22] <watchtower> Does ubuntu offer cloud deployment
[15:22] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: and you've looked at /etc/network/ and all its files to make sure there's nothing screwy?
[15:23] <ThinkT510> !cloud | watchtower
[15:23] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: According to Ubuntu Server the logical name is p4p1 and I haven't changed anything regarding that.
[15:23] <Sling> watchtower: also check out openstack / http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud
[15:23] <watchtower> OK Thanks for your help guys
[15:24] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: My /etc/network/interfaces file is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1472962/
[15:24] <wh0dat> Sling: GParted reports that it is set as a boot partition (/dev/sdb1). and I reinstalled the MBR as well with a GUI utility.
[15:25] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: I don't know much about xen, is this a virtualised instance or a VPS or something? Or is that a host thing?
[15:26] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Because if you're using Xen, I dunno.....race conditions, maybe ? :)
[15:26] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: This is the host, and I'm under an Xen kernel :)
[15:26] <linuxthefish> do any ubuntu people know why gparted gives this error? http://linuxthefish.net/personal/gparted_details.htm
[15:26] <wh0dat> sling: I used boot-repair : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:29] <linuxthefish> stupid ubuntu :'(
[15:29] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Well I can't think of anything right now. If you want to go with the horrible hacky solution of running that command at boot, make an upstart script that runs whenever the machine is started, and.....at some point after networking is supposed to start, I guess. That feels so wrong. Good luck!
[15:30] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Mmm, yeah
[15:30] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Thanks :)
[15:30] <Biomechd> i guess i'm going to restart my laptop since fixing this stupid trackpad without a restart is a no-go.
[15:31] <lupsakka> I have IWL 3945ABG wlan chip on my laptop. Networkmanager sees all the APs, but cant connect to them. dmsg output several lines of wlan0: direct probe to ... (try n/3). Thoughts?
[15:31] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Just rebooted and it's working this time O_o
[15:32] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Well you may have found some horrible bug. Can you enable/disable the trackpad with F8 now?
[15:33] <pamccabe> I installed Tor from documentation i found, now how do i know if it is running?
[15:33] <sequencesequence> pamccabe: Server or Client?
[15:33] <pamccabe> client
[15:33] <Dead-i> sequencesequence: Pushing F8 just makes me type a ~ (probably because I'm on ubuntu server)
[15:34] <sideeffect> i have so often issues with ubuntu. sometimes after booting only this blank magneta screen appears and nothing cqan be done
[15:34] <sequencesequence> Dead-i: Whoops sorry, just got mixed up between 2 conversations there :)
[15:34] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | sideeffect
[15:35] <sideeffect> thx
[15:35] <shivnamha> hi
[15:35] <shivnamha> can anyone help
[15:35] <shivnamha> me
[15:36] <sequencesequence> pamccabe: Well hopefully you're running the Tor Browser Bundle or had a good reason to decide not to. but check.torproject.org will tell you if you're using Tor
[15:36] <srhb> !enter | shivnamha
[15:36] <pamccabe> thanks ill check it out
[15:36] <BluesKaj> !aski | shivnamha
[15:36] <BluesKaj> !ask | shivnamha
[15:37] <kramb> how to open vlc from shell
[15:37] <kramb> ?
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: vlc
[15:38] <kramb> vlc media player
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: type vlc
[15:38] <kramb> or any gui program from shell
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: The name of the program.
[15:38] <kramb> suppose firefox
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: type firefox
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: etc.
[15:38] <kramb> not from terminal shell
[15:38] <srhb> kramb: Oh, from the F1-F5 consoles?
[15:39] <kramb> yes
[15:39] <srhb> kramb: That's more difficult, you will have to specify the X server on which to open them as well as have access to that X server
[15:39] <shivnamha> i am getting Error while installing Ubuntu Server
[15:39] <shivnamha> "failed to copy file from CD Rom
[15:39] <shivnamha> "
[15:39] <kramb> would you mind teaching me
[15:39] <kramb> srhb:
[15:39] <memand> ewook: Hmm, it kinda worked and kind of didn't. When i do sudo lshw -c display it tells me that the nvidia drivers are being used, but when I go in Xscreensaver I can see that all the ones that uses GL don't work...
[15:39] <shivnamha> i was trying to install it on Virtual Machine
[15:39] <krasi> hi
[15:40] <srhb> kramb: Are you logged on as the same user as the one running the X session?
[15:40] <sequencesequence> kramb: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[15:40] <sequencesequence> then you can run things in X
[15:40] <srhb> kramb: If so, try to export DISPLAY=':0' and then run the command you want
[15:40] <kramb> srhb: can you wait for a while
[15:41] <srhb> kramb: Maybe, maybe not. I may have to run soon.
[15:41] <kramb> ok
[15:41] <kramb> ok
[15:41] <kramb> please continue
[15:41] <srhb> kramb: There's no continuation, I gave you everything you need.
[15:42] <kramb> srhb: it ended with blinking cursor
[15:43] <kramb> srhb: thnks for ur help
[15:43] <srhb> kramb: Well, the program should now be open on the X server.
[15:43] <kramb> srhb: one more question
[15:43] <srhb> kramb: Mind, if you log off, it will be killed. use nohop programname & to prevent that
[15:43] <srhb> nohup*
[15:44] <memand> Does any of you have experience with nvidia and driver issues ?
[15:45] <srhb> memand: State your specific question instead.
[15:45] <theseb> Easiest way to make an "old style" audio CD from a bunch of mp3's if your car stereo won't play mp3s?
[15:45] <kramb> how to connect to wireless network using shell?
[15:45] <leo-the-manic> I'm trying to setup mutt and fetchmail with my Gmail account, it more or less works except all my spam messages get downloaded. I've been searching Google but can't seem to come up with the right terms, does anyone know how to solve this/where to look?
[15:45] <kramb> shrb:how to connect to wireless network using shell?
[15:46] <joey8> theseb➤ wont brasero work for you
[15:46] <srhb> kramb: Something like iwconfig wlan0 essid NameOfNetwork key s:KeyOfNetwork
[15:46] <Therion87> iwconfig?
[15:46] <srhb> kramb: And probably dhclient wlan0 afterwards
[15:46] <theseb> joey8: i don't know.....it mustn't just copy mp3's.
[15:47] <memand> I have an nvidia gt555m chip and intel graphics on my laptop and have just installed the updated x drivers and can see when I run sudo lshw -c display that all the drivers are in use but I can't do GL
[15:47] <joey8> theseb➤ i think you have the option of making a music cd
[15:48] <srhb> memand: Optimus?
[15:49] <memand> srhb: I'm actually not sure, how can i check that?
[15:49] <theseb> joey8: k, thanks!
[15:49] <joey8> theseb➤ YW ヅ
[15:49] <srhb> memand: It probably does support optimus. See here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee -- not that it is unsupported
[15:50] <srhb> memand: If it works, it will allow you to run things on your nvidia card by prepending optimus to the command, and keep it shut off to save power when no such programs are running
[15:51] <kramb> srhb: are you there?
[15:51] <srhb> kramb: Yes, and I answered your last question.
[15:52] <memand> srhb: ok so if the card supports it, it does not get activated unless I use the optimus command?
[15:52] <srhb> memand: Correct.
[15:52] <srhb> memand: At least if Optimus is enabled in BIOS
[15:53] <memand> srhb: That would explain why it is not activating, but does the nouveau driver circumvent that?
[15:54] <memand> srhb: the reason I ask is that there is some things that worked with the nouveau driver that does not work now
[15:55] <srhb> memand: I'm not sure. Do you know which card is currently running the X server?
[15:55] <memand> srhb: no idea
[15:56] <memand> srhb: Can i check it?
[15:56] <thcipriani> Any ideas as to why my PS1 isn't changing it's svn/git status on cd: bashrc here: https://gist.github.com/4399057
[15:56] <srhb> memand: Yes, you can see which driver is in use in the X log. Not sure if there are other ways. Probably is. :P
[15:56] <memand> srhb: Do you know where the log is placed?
[15:57] <srhb> memand: lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[15:57] <srhb> memand: The one with [VGA Controller] at the end is currently active
[15:58] <memand> srhb: Can I ask why there is perl in that command?
[15:58] <srhb> memand: Because of the regular expression
[15:58] <memand> srhb: ok
[15:58] <riderplus> can someone help me modify the colour of the icons' titles in nautilus 3.6.3? this is what they look like: http://www.imagetoo.com/images/screenlwl.png
[15:58] <riderplus> they are white on a white background
[15:58] <memand> srhb: just a sec and I'll check it
[15:58] <srhb> memand: Good to be careful though. I might be an evil blackhat who is currently taking over your computer. Bwahaha.
[15:59] <srhb> I wonder what the shortest, most obfuscated Perl to do that would actually look like.
[15:59] <memand> srhb: probably like something from outer space :P
[15:59] <memand> must say I hate obfuscated perl
[16:00] <Sling> srhb: shortest would probably be triggering some buffer overflow with a loop and then using RFI to include a larger script/shellcode
[16:01] <srhb> Sling: I think it would be possible to hide a call to an ssh tunnel easier :P
[16:01] <memand> srhb: It's the intel chip that's in control right now
[16:01] <srhb> memand: Right, I think you should follow that bumblebee guide and come back if it isn't working
[16:02] <srhb> memand: Either way your GPU is using tons of power right now, you will need bumblebee to turn it off (if you don't want to turn it off permanently in the BIOS)
[16:02] <memand> srhb: cool thanks :)
[16:02] <srhb> Note that it isn't supported (but works great for me)
[16:03] <riderplus> anyone?
[16:03] <diverdude> why is it so complicated to install java in ubuntu
[16:03] <memand> srhb
[16:04] <memand> srhb: off topic but in the start of this video there is a pretty interesting obfuscated perl script http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeghXnAGJV4
[16:04] <srhb> memand: Thanks :)
[16:04] <miha> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/rss.xml i think rss feed items really should have pubDate
[16:04] <miha> or do i see it wrong?
[16:08] <riderplus> I have installed ambiance dark sidebar but I don't know how to make the titles of the icons black
[16:09] <riderplus> they're all white on white background
[16:09] <riderplus> looks like crap
[16:10] <memand> srhb: Ok rebooting and x'in my fingers :)
[16:16] <memand> srhb: NICE, everything seems to be working smooth as butter now :)
[16:17] <noobatlife> Hello.
[16:17] <joey8> i tried some butter with salt crystals in over the holidays - that was all BUT smooth
[16:18] <noobatlife> I am new to bash scripting and i want to get started. Could you recommend some resources which I could use?
[16:18] <memand> srhb: just as a last check can I maybe get you to post that command with the perl again, so I can check witch car is in control now?
[16:18] <joey8> which ones have you tried yet?
[16:18] <srhb> memand: Does optirun work?
[16:18] <srhb> memand: lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA
[16:19] <srhb> memand: It's simpler to try glxspheres and then optirun glxspheres -- there should be a marked difference and a report in the terminal on which card is rendering.
[16:19] <noobatlife> How can a human being memorize so much things?
[16:20] <noobatlife> anyway
[16:20] <srhb> memand: I just remembered that my kernel headers were kept back when I installed it, you might want to check if the same happened to you,
[16:20] <memand> srhb: Ok, so the intel is in control still but HUGE difference between normal and optirun :D
[16:21] <memand> srhb: kernel headers ?
[16:21] <noobatlife> What are other graphics drivers  I can use for my integrated Intel core i3 board aside from Mesa?
[16:21] <zmo> hi
[16:21] <srhb> memand: Good! Now try sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:21] <srhb> memand: Take note of whether it says linux-something has been held back.
[16:22] <noobatlife> What are some good sites to learn bash scripting?
[16:22] <noobatlife> or books?
[16:23] <srhb> noobatlife: http://linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial
[16:23] <zmo> I have an old ubuntu install that is totally crashed (I think it was 8.04), so I want to install a newer ubuntu (12.10) on that machine... Problem is that I can't boot from the ubuntu 12.10 install CD, whereas I still can boot from the ubunte 8.04 install CD. The BIOS is correctly configured, and it seems the 12.10 CD spins at boot time, and then the BIOS fallback to HDD. Anybody has an idea of what could be wrong ?
[16:23] <memand> srhb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473260/
[16:24] <srhb> memand: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:24] <srhb> memand: That should take care of it
[16:24] <noobatlife> x srhb
[16:24] <noobatlife> thx
[16:24] <pamccabe> i installed Tor and was using the Tor browser fine. (client) i restarted and now i am back to just using firefox. is this correct? should i be using a tor browser instead? if so, how do i find it to open it?
[16:24] <tymnet> hello
[16:25] <tymnet> can you guys see me typing?
[16:25] <pamccabe> yes
[16:25] <tymnet> cool
[16:25] <memand> srhb: Cool thanks a lot :D
[16:25] <max999> hi, can i get support for lxappearance here? getting a segmentation fault.
[16:26] <srhb> memand: No problem, enjoy your 1000% battery life. :-)
[16:26] <tymnet> i just installed ubuntu 12.10 and went to install the latest nvidia drivers which sent me on a wild goose chase. install root at the command line because i'm an idiot. then enabled superuser. basically i just need to install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.19.run can someone please show me how. i'm a n00b
[16:27] <memand> srhb: Will do :) just have to make a note of using optirun for gfx apps :)
[16:27] <srhb> memand: Yes. :) It really is quite nice to have that control, I think.
[16:27] <srhb> tymnet: Can you not just install nvidia-current via apt-get?
[16:27] <memand> tymnet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104527/how-do-i-install-the-latest-nvidia-drivers-via-the-additional-drivers-tool
[16:28] <memand> I have just been on that exact adventure ;)
[16:28] <tymnet> heh one of many to come memand
[16:29] <memand> tymnet :)
[16:29] <tymnet> how'd you go?
[16:29] <tymnet> memand:
[16:29] <max999> providing some more information: lxappearance is the lxde configuration tool ('customize look and feel'), if i try to remove icon themes i get a segmentation fault (when starting from command line) / it just closes (without commandline)
[16:29] <memand> srhb: It certainly is, I just wish that there was more readily information about it
[16:30] <tymnet> srhb: should i remove su and if so how?
[16:30] <memand> tymnet: follow the link, that should take care of the drivers
[16:30] <srhb> memand: Blame NVidia. This has been hacked together by enthusiasts.
[16:30] <memand> srhb: Oh I do ! ;)
[16:31] <kramb> srhb: ping doesn't work
[16:31] <memand> srhb: on the bright side gaming is soon to come to *nix then nvidia kinda has to get in the game :)
[16:31] <srhb> kramb: Did you do the dhclient bit?
[16:31] <kramb> yes
[16:31] <srhb> memand: Yes, did you notice the Steam Linux Beta is now open?
[16:31] <srhb> kramb: Sorry, no idea then.
[16:32] <memand> srhb: No, but that is a pretty big step :D
[16:32] <tymnet> hey memand the install took only a few seconds, that sound right?
[16:32] <srhb> memand: Yes it is.
[16:33] <tymnet> ah i had to run the second string. the update
[16:33] <memand> tymnet: sounds right, but did you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings ?
[16:33] <tymnet> yep
[16:33] <tymnet> thanks
[16:34] <memand> tymnet, what card do you have?
[16:34] <tymnet> 570gtx
[16:34] <tymnet> i need to get an irc client
[16:34] <tymnet> web client is making my system choppy
[16:35] <memand> tymnet: xchat is the way to go on the irc side. Do you have intel graphics also?
[16:35] <tymnet> nah i'm running the p5q pro
[16:36] <tymnet> why do you ask memand
[16:36] <memand> tymnet: beacause if you had you probably had to set it up to use ypur graphics card instead of the intel chip
[16:37] <srhb> memand: He probably wants that since he's on a stationary pc
[16:37] <pamccabe> Vidalia did not run at start up, how do i start it up? trying to use Tor
[16:37] <memand> tymnet: I must say that I'm not an expert but I think that you should be all set after a reboot :)
[16:38] <tymnet> hehe memand you funny. ill reboot and you guys won't see me for another hour :) jk
[16:38] <memand> pamccabe: did you install the bundle from their website?
[16:38] <pamccabe> yes i did memand
[16:38] <tymnet> brb
[16:38] <memand> tymnet, good luck ;)
[16:39] <memand> pamccabe: It's been a while since i used it, but as far as i remember their is a file in the folder you download that is called vidalia that you just run...
[16:40] <pamccabe> ok, ill take a look, thank you
[16:41] <pamccabe> yea that works. was just hoping the control panel would start up automatically
[16:42] <memand> pamccabe: I just downloaded the pack to check, you just run the start-tor-browser script, and that's it
[16:43] <watchtower> Does anyone know of any Brillant codecs for hd 1080p video playback with vlc
[16:43] <pamccabe> memand, alright, i just didnt see any documentation for starting that up. ill use it to use Tor. thanks for your time
[16:43] <memand> pamccabe: NP
[16:44] <srhb> watchtower: What do you mean?
[16:44] <srhb> Codecs have very little to do with the actual resolution of whatever you're playing.
[16:46] <memand> watchtower: As far as I'm informed vlc has all the codecs you would ever need...
[16:48] <watchtower> ok thanks
[16:48] <memand> srhb: On a side note I have noticed that my laptop does not get nearly as warm as it used to do now that I'm running with optimus :)
[16:50] <srhb> memand: Indeed. :) One of those nice features of bumblebeed.
[16:51] <arslan> hey
[16:52] <srhb> memand: Mine drops power usage about 15W even with just a trivial GL application running.
[16:52] <d4rkh4nd> hello, anyone know a command i can useto wipe the contence of a plain txt file?
[16:52] <b14d3> d4rkh4nd: Instead of just deleting and recreating it for some reason?
[16:52] <memand> d4rkh4nd: what do you mean?
[16:53] <d4rkh4nd> I guess that would be easyest
[16:53] <srhb> d4rkh4nd: echo > testfile
[16:53] <nomike> hi
[16:53] <d4rkh4nd> its early lol ty
[16:54] <memand> srhb: nice :)
[16:54] <memand> One more reason to love Linux
[16:54] <srhb> memand: A proper shell is definitely a must-have for me.
[16:54] <merlin2> Simple Simple Simple
[16:54] <nomike> I want to know which user a running process is running under. "ps -ef" shows me this:
[16:54] <nomike> Isabel 	Burian 	Isa 	isa@fstph.at 	0660/ 76 29 783 	  	  	aktiv
[16:55] <nomike> oops
[16:55] <jcapinc> srhb: im not picky about my shell, what would you say is an improper shell?
[16:55] <nomike> 1047     26582  9942  0 17:36 ?        00:00:00 dovecot/imap
[16:55] <nomike> +#
[16:55] <d4rkh4nd> srhb: thank you again idk why i didnt think that was easyer lol
[16:55] <memand> srhb: I merged to Linux about two years ago now, and now I have no idea how I could have lived without the shell
[16:56] <cking> that was the worst 10mins memand
[16:56] <cking> lol :)
[16:56] <memand> cking: you where tymnet before?
[16:57] <cking> yeh sorry one sec
[16:57] <_graham_> nomike: Putting "u" on the ps command line outputs the user details
[16:57] <memand> cking: welcome back
[16:57] <cking> lol
[16:57] <_graham_> So "ps -efu" for example
[16:57] <srhb> memand: Yes :P
[16:57] <cking> trying to figure out how to change my name back
[16:57] <srhb> jcapinc: cmd.exe
[16:58] <memand> cking: /nick
[16:58] <nomike> _graham_, cool, that did the job, thank you
[16:59] <tymnet> thanks
[16:59] <tymnet> you wanna know what happened mem?
[17:00] <Drone4four> how do i enable my nvidia drivers? unusual xorg.conf here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098925
[17:00] <memand> tymnet, Yeah
[17:01] <memand> tymnet: can you try running 'sudo lshw -c display' and tell me what you see?
[17:02] <tymnet> after installing the drivers and reboot, the resolution wouldn't go passed 1280xsomething when i'm running 1920x1080 and none of the items on the screen would display. side panel and top panel gone. so i right clicked and went to change desktop background and from there to all settings. then went to software sources and additional drivers. from there clicked using x.org... and so on
[17:02] <memand> Drone4four: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104527/how-do-i-install-the-latest-nvidia-drivers-via-the-additional-drivers-tool
[17:03] <Drone4four> ty memand
[17:03] <memand> Drone4four: np
[17:03] <d4rkh4nd> can cat > filename  return a value showing if its blank ?
[17:04] <macdaddy_> kjjh
[17:04] <srhb> d4rkh4nd: If what is blank
[17:04] <d4rkh4nd> if the file is blank
[17:04] <srhb> d4rkh4nd: cat filename
[17:04] <macdaddy_> hi
[17:04] <srhb> d4rkh4nd: Blank if the file is.
[17:04] <d4rkh4nd> I want my script to check if the file is blank
[17:05] <macdaddy_> how do i change my nickname again ? /nick new nickname ???
[17:05] <d4rkh4nd> maybe check for lines or something ?
[17:05] <tymnet> it's /nick
[17:05] <thcipriani> Any ideas as to why my PS1 isn't changing the svn status on directory changes? bashrc here: https://gist.github.com/4399057
[17:05] <max999> macdaddy_: yes. /nick yournewname
[17:05] <macdaddy_> not working ???
[17:05] <macdaddy_> hmmm
[17:05] <bazhang> macdaddy_, help in #freenode
[17:06] <macdaddy_> ok
[17:06] <jcapinc> srnb: completely agreed.
[17:06] <memand> tymnet: it looks like you are still using the noveau driver, witch is not so good
[17:06] <srhb> jpacinc: ;)
[17:06] <srhb> jcapinc: ^
[17:07] <tymnet> i was using the nvidia drivers but lost all panels and res was set to 1280
[17:07] <tymnet> not 1920x1080
[17:07] <tymnet> can someone help please
[17:07] <tymnet> ?
[17:08] <memand> tymnet: Ok, so that was why you changed back to noveau?
[17:08] <tymnet> I just installed 302.17 nvidia and lost all the panels plus the resolution options were 1280 and 1080 and 800. yeah memand that's how i got back here
[17:09] <memand> tymnet: then I must say that this problem is out of my league :P
[17:09] <memand> sry
[17:09] <tymnet> all good :) you got yours working?
[17:09] <memand> yea
[17:09] <tymnet> how's it feel?
[17:09] <memand> All fussy inside :P
[17:10] <tymnet> nah i mean dragging etc. this is the reason i said you are funny
[17:10] <Drone4four> memand, i just followed that guide and my nvidia drivers are still not active
[17:10] <tymnet> Drone4four, you can check through software sources
[17:10] <Drone4four> i ran nvidia-xconfig as root user and then rebooted
[17:11] <tymnet> then additional drivers
[17:11] <tymnet> brb gonna install through software center and see if that changes anything
[17:12] <memand> Drone4four: Did you reboot?
[17:12] <Drone4four> yesx
[17:13] <Mathuin> Had a recent apt-get upgrade nightmare where several hundred packages were declared persona non grata.  Two weeks later, Unity seems gone.  What's up?  12.04.1 LTS.
[17:13] <memand> Drone4four: Then I don't know :(
[17:13] <Drone4four> D=
[17:13] <Drone4four> it's ok...
[17:13] <bekks> memand: What do you mean by "declared persona non grata"?
[17:13] <memand> Drone4four: I just got mine working myself
[17:14] <Mathuin> No bars on the top or bottom or side, can open terminal windows with Ctrl-Alt-T and thats' how I'm opening Chromium et al.
[17:14] <bekks> Mathuin: Thats was meant for you ^^
[17:14] <memand> bekks: lol
[17:14] <Mathuin> bekks: the 'upgrade manager' was all "we can only do a partial upgrade" and walked me through this multi step process which involved removing pages of packages.
[17:15] <Drone4four> how do i enable my nvidia drivers? unusual xorg.conf here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098925
[17:15] <bekks> Mathuin: Then provide the output of the following commands please, in a pastebin: lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo apt-get update
[17:15] <jwalling> while updating 10.4 LTS - I noticed sudo was not authenticated - can anyone explain why sudo package was deleted from the Ubuntu library ?  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/lucid/main/proposed/sudo
[17:15] <srhb> Mathuin: You probably want to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and unity
[17:16] <srhb> Mathuin: Sounds like you did something bad though. Don't do bad things! ;)
[17:16] <bekks> jwalling: ?
[17:16] <noobatlife> That bash scripting guide sucks
[17:16] <Mathuin> srhb: is there a quick way to see if thsoe packages are installed?  (... don't do bad things. :-) :-))
[17:16] <Mathuin> bekks: on the way.
[17:16] <fearphage> in 12.04, ubuntu detected 8 cores. in 12.10, it only detects 1. I have my cpuino, lscpu, dmesg, and uname listed here https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3 any help would be greatly appreciated
[17:16] <bekks> noobatlife: Which one?
[17:17] <noobatlife> http://linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial
[17:17] <ThinkT510> noobatlife: more help (and likely tutorials) could be found in #bash
[17:17] <bekks> noobatlife: I'd suggest using the "Advanced bash script guide".
[17:17] <watchtower> How to intsall a .run file please im assuming its via the terminal and cd into the directry of the file correct me if im wrong
[17:17] <noobatlife> I see what you did there
[17:18] <bekks> watchtower: Whih program do you want to install?
[17:18] <watchtower> Metasploit
[17:18] <srhb> watchtower: File extensions are generally no guarantee of file type on Unix systems
[17:18] <srhb> watchtower: It's better to run file filename to understand what it is
[17:19] <watchtower> what do you mean by run filename
[17:19] <srhb> watchtower: In a terminal type: file yourFileName
[17:19] <bekks> watchtower: "file yourfile.run"
[17:19] <Mathuin> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473529/
[17:20] <Tombik> Hello, i am Ubuntu newbie and i installed it on my Macbook 5,1. I have found a software that can regulate LCD brightness but i dont know how to install it? Can you help me? https://github.com/guillaumezin/nvidiabl
[17:20] <BluesKaj> watchtower,  ./metaspoilt.run
[17:20] <bekks> Mathuin: I've never seen that much foreign package sources (PPA) on a single system.
[17:21] <Tombik> i want to install it because i have the same issue as this guys here http://askubuntu.com/questions/185341/cant-change-brightness-on-a-macbook-5-1
[17:21] <Mathuin> bekks: When the indie bundles come out on Steam for Linux, many of them will go away.
[17:21] <watchtower> i get error metasploit-latest-linux-installer.run: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped
[17:22] <srhb> watchtower: Then stand in the directory of the file and type ./metasploit-latest-linux-installer.run
[17:22] <bekks> watchtower: Thats not an error, thats the output of "file".
[17:22] <BluesKaj> watchtower, or copy and paste the name of the file in the files properties then place the ./ in  front in the terminal with sudo
[17:23] <tymnet> ay guys
[17:23] <bekks> Mathuin: Having that much PPA, it is nearly impossible to find out what happened. I'd suggest disabling them, removing the software installed from them, and then trying to find the reason.
[17:24] <watchtower> I Stood in the directory and typed the ./ it gives me permisson denied
[17:24] <bekks> watchtower: "./" is wrong. "./yourfile.run"
[17:24] <jwalling> if anyone can explain why sudo pacakage was deleted from ubuntu repository please PM me. http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/lucid/main/proposed/sudo
[17:24] <jhutchins_wk> Are we trying to run a 32b binary on a 64b system?
[17:25] <memand> watchtower: sudo ./filename.run
[17:25] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: Which is possible without any errors. Vice versa isnt.
[17:25] <yayLINUX> hello guys, I recently installed windows 8 pro fully on my laptop. The fact is, that it is totally a mess. I want to install ubuntu on it. The problem is, that when I boot, I can't come into my BIOS, or even into my boot menu.
[17:26] <max999> jwalling: if i get the page right, there are still 6 versions of 'sudo' for lucid in some repositories / areas
[17:26] <bekks> jwalling: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sudo&searchon=names&suite=lucid-updates&section=all
[17:26] <yayLINUX> how can I completely remove windows 8 and install ubuntu 12.04
[17:26] <watchtower> I did this and it just gives me the output of the file
[17:26] <bekks> yayLINUX: Just use the install cd, and install Ubuntu on your harddisk.
[17:26] <jwalling> max999: when i do update - sudo is not authenticated - not something I like to install
[17:26] <cdstang> I have a GA-MA790GPT-UD3H motherboard with hdmi and I cant get the audio part to work. Im on Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[17:27] <max999> jwalling: ? what do you write and what is the output?
[17:27] <yayLINUX> I can't come into the bios
[17:27] <yayLINUX> I can't come into the boot menu
[17:27] <yayLINUX> booting from a cd/usb won't work for me
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: You're going to have to figure out why you can't access the BIOS or boot menu unless it defaults to CD or USB boot.
[17:27] <max999> yayLINUX: on your bios splash screen it usually displays some keys to press to get in the boot menu (f10, f12)
[17:27] <memand> yayLINUX: Have you tried just putting it on a flash drive and booting with that inserted? Most BIOS'es are set up to boot from usb before disk if possible
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: You may need to search the web for info about what key sequence your BIOS expects.
[17:28] <yayLINUX> well...
[17:28] <jwalling> max999: i haven't updated to sudo Version 1.7.2p1-1ubuntu5.5  because it is not authenticated
[17:28] <bekks> yayLINUX: Or have a look at the manual of your mainboard on how to get into the BIOS/bootmenu.
[17:28] <yayLINUX> normally I get into the bios by pressing F2
[17:29] <srhb> yayLINUX: Try randomly mashing everything very fast :P. DEL, F1, RET, F10, F12 are all usual suspects.
[17:29] <yayLINUX> now it only shows that image if you start it without things like press f2 for setup (bios) or f12 for boot menu
[17:29] <max999> yayLINUX: you can also use the windows-ubuntu installer (i think it will be installed alongside of windows then, but you can delete windows after booting to ubuntu then).
[17:29] <max999> yayLINUX: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[17:29] <yayLINUX> hmm
[17:29] <yayLINUX> I don't like the wubi thing
[17:29] <srhb> max999: You can?
[17:29] <bekks> yayLINUX: Then take a look at your manual.
[17:29] <max999> srhb: yes you can. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[17:29] <Mathuin> Trying the suggestion to (re-)install ubuntu-desktop and unity.  A few extra packages: compiz and friends, unity-2d, lib*, xorg.
[17:30] <max999> yayLINUX: why
[17:30] <bekks> Mathuin: Because it is not supported that well, AND it is not a native linux installation.
[17:30] <srhb> max999: The guides seem to say it is not possible.
[17:31] <srhb> max999: How would you delete Windows afterwards?
[17:31] <yayLINUX> it doesnt work well with me
[17:31] <Mathuin> bekks: what is not supported that well, and what is not a native Linux installation?
[17:31] <memand> yayLINUX: Does it respond when you press F2 ?
[17:31] <max999> srhb: just boot ubuntu and use gparted or whatever you like
[17:31] <yayLINUX> nope
[17:31] <max999> srhb: do i miss a problem there?
[17:31] <bekks> Mathuin: I am mixing up nick names :P
[17:31] <yayLINUX> sec I will get my laptop, be right back
[17:31] <jwalling> max999: I assume Version 1.7.2p1-1ubuntu5.5:  is not authenitcated because sudo pkg was removed from the ubuntu repository - that's why i'm asking why it was removed http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/lucid/main/proposed/sudo
[17:31] <bekks> max999: THAT was meant for you ;)
[17:32] <memand> yayLINUX: Have you tried booting with the USB/disc in the computer?
[17:32] <Mathuin> oh!  That helps. :-)  Logging out to see if this fixes things...
[17:32] <srhb> max999: Yes, the fact that the wubi Ubuntu is on the C drive of the Windows installation
[17:32] <bekks> jwalling: Please stop pasting that nonsense link. I've given you a link clearly showing that sudo is still in the repos. Please pastbin the entire output of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install sudo
[17:32] <max999> bekks: well. if he cant change boot order or access the boot menu he has not much choice =) except using master bios passwords.
[17:33] <bekks> max999: He cant even get into the bios ... so no chance to enter a master password.
[17:33] <max999> srhb: seriously?
[17:33] <srhb> max999: Yes.
[17:33] <max999> bekks: he is doing something wrong then imo.
[17:33] <bekks> max999: Yes, WUBI is just a big file on the C driver.
[17:33] <bekks> max999: Then please guide him on what to do.
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: I suppose you could try unplugging the hard drive and trying to boot.  That should get you a BIOS prompt if there is one.
[17:33] <yayLINUX> good one
[17:33] <yayLINUX> but it is a laptop
[17:33] <yayLINUX> acer aspire 5315
[17:33] <yayLINUX> don't know how that works
[17:34] <yayLINUX> and I don't want to mess with my hardware
[17:34] <memand> yayLINUX: Out with the screwdriver :P
[17:34] <yayLINUX> :)
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: Most laptops these days have an access plate for the hard drive, it's a commonly replaced item.
[17:34] <max999> yayLINUX: there is an option to enter the bios, doesnt has to be f2.
[17:34] <yayLINUX> this laptop isnt out of these days
[17:34] <yayLINUX> its 5 years old or so
[17:34] <bekks> yayLINUX: Did you took a look at the manual of your laptop already?
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: Unfortunately my acer1 is at home or I'd boot it and check the key sequence.
[17:35] <srhb> I did, it's F2
[17:35] <yayLINUX> I think I don't have that manual any more I thnk
[17:35] <yayLINUX> at me it is always f2
[17:35] <bekks> yayLINUX: The manual is on the internet, too ;)
[17:35] <yayLINUX> but untill I installed windows 8
[17:35] <ThinkT510> yayLINUX: doesn't windows 8 require uefi rather than bios?
[17:35] <bekks> ThinkT510: No.
[17:35] <yayLINUX> idk whats uefi is
[17:36] <memand> yayLINUX: here is a guide on how to reset your BIOS, http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.html
[17:36] <yayLINUX> the way to enter the bios disapears
[17:36] <bekks> yayLINUX: Just press f2 anyway...
[17:36] <max999> i find f2 for his laptop model on google too.
[17:36] <tymnet> you there memand ?
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: Yes, that model uses f2.
[17:36] <bekks> yayLINUX: It doesnt matter wether is shows the message "press f2 to get into the bios" or not.
[17:36] <memand> tymnet: Yes?
[17:36] <yayLINUX> k  I will shut it down, start it and I will hammer with my fingers at the f2 key
[17:37] <tymnet> i got it working with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2080933
[17:37] <max999> yayLINUX: power it off. power it on. hold f2.
[17:37] <max999> or hammer it if you like ;)
[17:37] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: Just keep whacking it as soon as you turn it on until something happens.  Holding it probably won't work.
[17:37] <yayLINUX> it just doesnt work
[17:37] <agent> Hi there, I'm having a problem changing my root password. Can anyone recommend a solution?
[17:37] <jhutchins_wk> If it's five years old he wouldn't be dealing with SecureBoot.
[17:37] <yayLINUX> sudo passwd agent
[17:38] <yayLINUX> without that agent, its your name
[17:38] <yayLINUX> just "sudo passwd"
[17:38] <yayLINUX> ye
[17:38] <never2far> how can i make history to remember more lines
[17:38] <agent> I was trying sudo passwd root. It says it's changed but when I log out and in, it's prompting me for old pw
[17:38] <TT079> register
[17:39] <sebastian_o|> hi guys, I have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 and with the root user just added a new user. Now when logging in with the new user, the terminal is too minimal, it has no autocomplete, etc. How can I configure it to make it nice?
[17:39] <TT079> am i now reistered
[17:39] <TT079> ignore that, wrong channel
[17:39] <sebastian_o|> (or how should I google for he answer?)
[17:40] <bekks> !root | agent
[17:40] <agent> I had to downgrade from 12.04 when my wireless became vunerable. Has that been fixed since?
[17:40] <hellp> sd
[17:40] <bekks> agent: Which bug report do you refer to?
[17:40] <max999> bekks: we could make him destroy his partition table somehow, so his hard disk is recognized to be empty and it forwards to the next boot device ;-)))
[17:40] <agent> ubottu, I'm sure I had set one
[17:41] <memand> tymnet: sup?
[17:41] <bekks> max999: I dont think that will magically get him into the BIOS.
[17:41] <srhb> bekks: Won't need to though!
[17:41] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: This says hold Fn and ESC down while powering up to boot from the CD: http://www.theeldergeek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29973
[17:41] <agent> idk, I had a friend from redhat help me and we just downgraded assuming it was compatibilty issues
[17:41] <max999> bekks: it would get him to his bootable usb / cd. ;-)
[17:41] <bekks> agent: Using Ubuntu, you never had to set a root password. You only set a user password.
[17:41] <emr> Hello, i'm searching files find .|xargs grep "aa" -sl, how i can edit this files with nano, i mean how i can redirect to nano, respectively
[17:41] <yayLINUX> jhutchins_wk: good idea, lets try
[17:42] <jhutchins_wk> yayLINUX: Asus does have several bios updates for that model, might be a good idea to apply the latest.
[17:42] <agent> well, bekks. How do i change it? I am on a user account. When I log out and try to log in as root, I'm being propmpted for old password
[17:43] <jhutchins_wk> agent: What did you set it to?
[17:43] <agent> I could be completely confused, I had a password issue recently
[17:43] <bekks> agent: There is no root password. You dont have to change it, since the "normal" way to use the root account is to just use sudo.
[17:43] <bekks> agent: Thats what ubottu just told you.
[17:43] <agent> jhutchins_wk, the new password. said accepted in terminal but accepted old pw
[17:44] <agent> kk
[17:46] <agent> logging out and trying ubottus suggestion
[17:46] <jhutchins_wk>  yayLINUX f10 is supposed to be the boot menu key.
[17:47] <sideeffect> i made the the nomodeset in my ubuntu (1year old netbook, graphic over processor), because it was not running ubuntu properly after booting. now comes the next issue: with nomodeset i have a very low resolution and i cant change that
[17:47] <yayLINUX> k
[17:47] <sideeffect> *in preferences
[17:47] <jhutchins_wk> sideeffect: Right.
[17:48] <jhutchins_wk> sideeffect: You're probably running the generic vesa driver because the hardware driver can't find the kms module.
[17:48] <fearphage> bekks: you were helping me yesterday when you disappeared. in 12.04, i had 8 cores. in 12.10, it only shows 1. Here is all the information you requested and more https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[17:48] <jhutchins_wk> sideeffect: You can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more info
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk> sideeffect: You'll need to do some searching on your graphics chipset and see what the driver solution for your version of Ubuntu is.
[17:50] <agent> ok... so ubottus advice gave me that my pw no longer matches my key ring
[17:50] <agent> for sudo passwd agent
[17:51] <agent> seems it's only changed the pw for this user or something?
[17:51] <agent> ubottu, help
[17:52] <yayLINUX> got itguys
[17:52] <yayLINUX> I needed to disable fast boot
[17:52] <agent> kk. Using sudo passwd agent command has changed my account pw but my computer now says the pw no longer matches my keyring. How do I change that pw?
[17:53] <Mina> Hello everybody
[17:53] <Mina> it's my first time using linux ubuntu
[17:53] <Therion87> Hi
[17:53] <Mina> and i need to make a shortcut of my applkications in the desktop any help ?/
[17:54] <Mina> hiiiii
[17:55] <jhutchins_wk> Mina: Are they listed in the menu?
[17:55] <r3al1ty> i am r3al1ty
[17:55] <Mina> yea
[17:55] <yayLINUX> yes I see, duh
[17:56] <riderplus> how can i change the background in nautilus file browser window? I don't need to change the desktop, just the background in the browser window
[17:57] <r3al1ty> lol
[17:57] <dufa> Mina: for applications in the launcher you can use press the super key and the numbers 1-9 to launch the applications
[17:58] <jhutchins_wk> Mina: You might be able to right click the item on the menu and copy it to the desktop.  I presume you're running unity, which I'm not familiar with.
[17:58] <bekks> yayLINUX: As you can see, it doesnt matter wether that press f2 message is displayed or not.
[17:58] <yayLINUX> no
[17:58] <yayLINUX> it was the quick boot option
[17:58] <yayLINUX> or fast boot option
[17:59] <bekks> yayLINUX: Yes, and you can still enter the BIOS using the hotkey, even without the message displayed.
[17:59] <yayLINUX> the message was displayed when i disabled the quick boot
[17:59] <riderplus> why in the world would it be so complicated?
[18:00] <Mina> but i can't make copy to the desktop ?
[18:00] <agent> so I tried logging into root (sudo passwd rand tried changing it again. I didn't get the key ring warning but, the terminal looked the same. How do I check and make sure it worked?oot)
[18:00] <dufa> Mina: if you want the icon on the desktop you can also simply drag the icon from the dash
[18:00] <dufa> open the dash, search for the application and drag it onto the desktop
[18:01] <bekks> yayLINUX: Yes. And again: it doesnt matter wether the message is displayed or not, you can always use the hotkey to enter the bios.
[18:01] <agent> where can I find info on pw please?
[18:01] <bekks> agent: What do you mean by "pw" in particular?
[18:01] <agent> The same passwprd question I've been asking
[18:02] <bekks> !root | agent
[18:02] <agent> *password, sorry
[18:02] <merlin_> hello every body
[18:02] <agent> im assuming that has something to do with the keyring password?
[18:02] <bekks> agent: No.
[18:02] <TheEmpath> hail sweet and tender ubuntu that has never failed me
[18:02] <TheEmpath> i have a question for youuuuuu
[18:03] <bekks> agent: the keyring password is something totally different.
[18:03] <merlin_> how to type this "agent: No."
[18:03] <TheEmpath> anyone running an SILC server?
[18:03] <merlin_> how to type the name in the front of what you want to say
[18:03] <bekks> merlin_: press a, press g, press e, press n ...
[18:03] <bazhang> merlin_, tab complete it
[18:03] <Mina> dufa thank you man so much :)
[18:03] <agent> so I went back in after the sudo passwd agent command and found it was a different pw for my keyring. I then tried sudo passwd root and was not prompted for key ring again. I was wondering if I had done that right.
[18:04] <bazhang> !tab | merlin_
[18:04] <Mina> plz can you take the control of my computer from any remote assistance to make the recommended settings in ubuntu ??
[18:04] <bekks> agent: The keyring password has nothing to do with your (not needed) root password set.
[18:04] <agent> kk
[18:04] <srhb> Mina: Don't allow strangers to take over your computer.
[18:05] <merlin_> merlin_, this
[18:05] <riderplus> does anyone know nautilus?
[18:05] <merlin_> merlin_:su
[18:05] <agent> I didn't. My host is exposed here and I dont want to use onion or vpns belonging to people I do not know. I wanted a normal v-host or something so I can access info, thats all
[18:05] <bazhang> merlin_, try someone else.  type three or so letters then hit tab
[18:05] <merlin_> merlin_:i'm stupid
[18:05] <fearphage> ubuntu 12.10 is only recognizing one of my 8 cores. can someone help me resolve this issue? https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[18:05] <riderplus> I'm looking for hours to change that bloody background
[18:05] <merlin_> bazhang,
[18:05] <bazhang> riderplus, to a color?
[18:05] <merlin_> bazhang,  there is no color
[18:06] <agent> bekks, I think the pw has changed but I really dont know
[18:06] <merlin_> bazhang,  there is no color
[18:06] <agent> Nautilus is a fossil
[18:06] <merlin_> bazhang, there is no color
[18:06] <bazhang> merlin_, only if I highlight you there is
[18:06] <bekks> agent: I still do not understand why you want to change the root password.
[18:06] <ev_> i used a command a while back and am looking for it. i tried using te up arrow to scroll back throug pevious commands, but this was a long time ago. is the command line history available to be searched?
[18:06] <agent> Hasn't changed since it's pre-docessors
[18:06] <bekks> agent: Because there is NO password set for root.
[18:07] <bekks> agent: ubottu told you twice already.
[18:07] <agent> bekks, I just wanted to
[18:07] <agent> how to change the user account
[18:07] <merlin_> !bazhang,  there is no color
[18:07] <agent> usre account was agent, some name on this computer.
[18:07] <bazhang> riderplus, you wish to set the nautilus background to a different color?
[18:07] <bekks> agent: by typing "passwd" as user.
[18:07] <riderplus> bazhang yes
[18:08] <riderplus> but not the desktop background
[18:08] <agent> yes bekks
[18:08] <riderplus> the browser background
[18:08] <agent> instead of logging in as root user
[18:08] <ThinkT510> agent: you shouldn't be logging in as root
[18:08] <riderplus> when I open home folder the icons' titles are white, the background is white, I can't see anything
[18:08] <agent> I'm very new, sorry if I can be frustrating but, i'm trying
[18:08] <Mina> please how i can make the ubuntu more faster ??
[18:08] <riderplus> any clue bazhang
[18:09] <merlin_> ! agent l
[18:09] <bazhang> merlin_, stop repeating
[18:09] <agent> to lock the password merlin?
[18:09] <agent> as in -l?
[18:09] <bazhang> riderplus, yes, just a moment
[18:09] <riderplus> ok thank you
[18:09] <Ben64> agent: what exactly are you trying to accomplish
[18:09] <sideeffect> jhutchins_wk: AMD Radeon™ HD 6290 Graphics is my graphics. so i need to search driver solutions for than in ubuntu? what do i need then for to look in to Xorg.0.log ?
[18:10] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.net/change-nautilus-background-color-ubuntu-12-04  riderplus
[18:10] <agent> change all passwords
[18:10] <sideeffect> *that
[18:10] <Ben64> agent: which passwords
[18:10] <agent> and account permissions
[18:10] <merlin_> ok !!!
[18:10] <Mina> please now i have the update manager and i found more than 282 update it's ok if i installed all of them ??
[18:10] <agent> root, user and permissions really
[18:10] <bazhang> Mina, sure
[18:10] <Scunizi> I've just run sudo fdisk -l from a live cd and was presented with one drive in the system sdb.  There is another drive formatted with ntfs that should be sda but it's not showing.  Is there something that I have to install to recognize the ntfs formatted drive? I though fdisk didn't really care what the format was.
[18:11] <Ben64> agent: root doesn't have a password, to change your user's password, use "passwd"
[18:11] <aib> hi, my LiveCD is trying to "fix" improperly unmounted NTFS partitions on sda&b, which is taking ages.. who is doing it and how can I prevent it?
[18:11] <ThinkT510> Mina: yes, you should be installing the updates
[18:11] <agent> should be the same
[18:11] <bazhang> agent, thats not right
[18:11] <agent> just logged in as user
[18:11] <Ben64> agent: root by default has no password and shouldn't have one
[18:11] <bazhang> agent, the root password is not enabled, as we have said many times now
[18:12] <agent> kk, please help bazhang. What do i do?
[18:12] <agent> ok
[18:12] <agent> So how do I make one then?
[18:12] <riderplus> bazhang I've done that...it changes the firefox interface and other apps. the interface of nautilus windows is white on white
[18:13] <riderplus> I don't know why
[18:13] <Ben64> agent: make one what
[18:13] <viaSanctus> is ubuntu suited to host an smtp service on a vps with 256MB of ram?
[18:13] <Scunizi> agent: you don't.. what are you doing that you think you need a root password for? or are you just use to that from another distro?
[18:13] <viaSanctus> or is another distro better suited for that job?
[18:13] <bazhang> agent, you DON'T make a root password
[18:14] <agent> I was hoping to do some online courses but I need a computer that is secure as I had a problem with my exams in 2009
[18:14] <bazhang> viaSanctus, lubuntu perhaps
[18:14] <bazhang> viaSanctus, or use the mini and build up
[18:14] <Scunizi> agent: that doesn't explain why you need a root password.. it doesn't add security
[18:14] <jmb70056> can someone please help me i upgraded ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 and now it won't let me login
[18:15] <Scunizi> agent: ubuntu is secure from the start..
[18:15] <riderplus> bazhang have a look at how dconf-editor window looks like here please http://www.imagetoo.com/images/screenrrr.png
[18:15] <bazhang> riderplus, is this 12.04 or 12.10
[18:15] <agent> well, the "f" I got was unwarrented and I no longer have to pay the tuition. This time, i'd like a fair shot. Looking to eliminate any outside interferrance, thats all
[18:15] <riderplus> I don't have any idea of how to change nautilus' colours
[18:15] <riderplus> 12.10
[18:15] <bazhang> agent, stay on topic
[18:15] <Mina> please how i can take a shortcut of my harddisk partation to desktop ??
[18:16] <Scunizi> agent: if you need to install something preface the command with sudo and it will ask for your password giving you temporary root permissions to do the install.
[18:16] <agent> thanks Scunizi but, I just want to be safe online
[18:16] <riderplus> bazhang nautilus 3.6.2
[18:16] <jmb70056> can someone please help me i upgraded ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10 and now it won't let me login
[18:16] <Ben64> agent: a root password does absolutely nothing for online safety
[18:16] <bazhang> riderplus, let me check the forums again, just a moment please
[18:17] <riderplus> ok bazhang
[18:17] <riderplus> though I've spent hours checking them...
[18:17] <agent> thanks ben64
[18:17] <riderplus> white on white..
[18:17] <Scunizi> agent: a root password doesn't do that.. you must be looking for something else to secure your online presence... like https: ?? VPN? SSH? If it's online courses then your only real options would typically be https: if the site supports it.
[18:17] <haWx> jmb70056: try using toor
[18:17] <agent> hi jones
[18:17] <haWx> for the root user
[18:18] <riderplus> at least if I could change one of them...the colour of the background or the color of the icons' titles
[18:19] <Scunizi> Why would fdisk not see sda but show me info on sdb?
[18:19] <Ben64> Scunizi: fdisk doesn't like GPT
[18:19] <Scunizi> Ben64: what's GPT?
[18:19] <Ben64> !gpt
[18:19] <viaSanctus> i only have the choice between Ubuntu 11.04, CentOS 6.0, Debian 6.0, Fedora 15.0, FreeBSD 8.2, ArchLinux 2010.08.19, AsteriskNow 1.7. and OpenSuse Linux VPS
[18:19] <viaSanctus>     OpenSuse 11.4
[18:19] <Ben64> Scunizi: partition table format, as opposed to msdos
[18:19] <agent> thanks Scuizi. I will see if I can get one. How do I get a v-host or something temp?
[18:20] <riderplus> !gpt
[18:20] <viaSanctus> which one is the lightest to run? It's only for 1 service = smtp
[18:20] <jay_why_bee> I have a postfix question.  I mbox format, but have the INBOX in the home directory.  This is as simple as changing postfix's main.cf to have "home_mailbox = Mailbox".  This has worked in a virtual machine (fresh install), but doesn't work on my production server.  Any ideas where to look as to why this isn't working?  I have purged my original postfix config, but no luck.
[18:20] <Scunizi> Ben64: sda is a ntfs formatted drive..
[18:20] <ThinkT510> viaSanctus: 11.04 is no longer supported
[18:21] <Scunizi> Ben64: I'm also doing this from a live cd.. would it not see the drive because of the format type?
[18:22] <Ben64> Scunizi: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[18:22] <bazhang> riderplus, do you have dconf-tools installed?  if so, please see if this link helps http://main.solusos.com/showthread.php?2024-Change-Nautilus-Background-Color-Pattern
[18:24] <Scunizi> Ben64: It's working on it.. sda is a failing drive I'm trying to clone.  However it seems to boot fine into winxp. It's just starting to develop "issues"
[18:24] <viaSanctus> Ubuntu gets most of its packages from Debian’s unstable branch...
[18:25] <viaSanctus> which distro is considered "stable" ?
[18:25] <riderplus> bazhang: I have exactly those values and yet my window is white on white
[18:25] <mark_fru> anyone good with xubuntu?
[18:25] <riderplus> that's 12.10
[18:25] <fgranda> quit
[18:25] <jennie> how do i test that my graphics drivers are installed properly in 1210
[18:25] <riderplus> the interfaces of guake, firefox, google-chrome have those colours
[18:25] <ThinkT510> viaSanctus: this is just for ubuntu support, better to ask in ##linux
[18:25] <riderplus> but the nautilus window is white on white
[18:26] <Ben64> viaSanctus: for a server, I'd use 12.04 (and I do on my server)
[18:26] <david> I need help with Brasero. It only sees 31.2 Mb of the DVD I'm trying to copy.
[18:26] <mark_fru> looking for help with xubuntu .... anyone ?
[18:27] <Ben64> mark_fru: try reversing the polarity
[18:27] <ThinkT510> jennie: lsmod will list the kernel modules that are loaded, check to see which graphics module is in use there
[18:27] <mark_fru> did the but the cpu started to smoke !
[18:28] <ThinkT510> mark_fru: to get help you need to state the issue
[18:28] <jennie> ThinkT510: are my ATI / AMD drivers working http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473674/ please have a look
[18:29] <mark_fru> <----- to ashamed to admit my issues in public !! .. .hahaha :S
[18:29] <ThinkT510> jennie: yes, fglrx is loaded
[18:29] <david> Brasero help, someone?
[18:29] <memand> mark_fru, Ben64: LOL
[18:29] <mark_fru> trying to find out how to brows my local network with xubuntu
[18:30] <jennie> ThinkT510: why in about this computer option at top bar , it is showing graphics info "driver - VESA: TURKS "
[18:30] <izinucs> Ben64: izinucs = Scunizi Here's the paste of the results from sudo parted -l.   http://pastebin.com/VQMW7vCy
[18:31] <mark_fru> do not like the standard ubuntu anymore as the interface irritates me so loaded xubuntu but need to link to my windows junk
[18:31] <b14d3> !samba | mark_fru
[18:32] <ThinkT510> jennie: try installing mesa-utils
[18:32] <mark_fru> cool ..... forgot about loading samba, spoilt by the other distro's
[18:32] <david> quit
[18:32] <Mina> any remote assistance here please ??
[18:32] <izinucs> We're all remote
[18:33] <thufir_> I burned the .iso onto disc.  can I get the iso back onto the hard drive?
[18:33] <Gnea> Mina: we're already remote. What assistance do you need?
[18:33] <mark_fru> told you I should not be left out in public ....
[18:33] <izinucs> mark_fru: sambafs  ... you probably don't need the entire samba package
[18:34] <mark_fru> thanks for the help see you again if I still need help...
[18:34] <mark_fru> thank will try that izinucs
[18:34] <izinucs> mark_fru: do it as your first shot..
[18:34] <juliohm> Hello, how to the get the most recent version of GCC on my Ubuntu 11.10? I tried adding a ppa as described in the Ask Ubuntu forum, but the ppa doesn't contains the gcc-4.7 package as described in the post.
[18:35] <izinucs> Ben64: any ideas?
[18:35] <juliohm> I would like to add some Debian repo to get constant updates and bleeding edge gcc
[18:35] <RyuGuns> Hey, I'm about to install Ubuntu to my macbook..
[18:35] <Ben64> izinucs: about?
[18:35] <RyuGuns> Do I have to partition myself or will the installer do it for me?
[18:35] <ThinkT510> juliohm: don't, never mix repos
[18:35] <juliohm> ThinkT510, and ppas?
[18:36] <juliohm> The same applies for ppas?
[18:36] <izinucs> Look up to my previous post to you.. I was Scunizi on my other machine.. I posted a link to pastebin with results from sudo parted -l
[18:36] <ThinkT510> juliohm: i avoid ppas, they are unsupported
[18:36] <juliohm> Me too
[18:36] <thufir_> I'm having trouble installing.  I downloaded ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent with bittorrent and burned the iso to a DVD. However, my only DVD drive is via usb.  when I booted, it just booted to rescue mode for 12.04 wheras I want to boot to the bootable disc I made.  it won't boot because it's a DVD?  or because it's USB?
[18:36] <juliohm> But i really want GCC 4.7
[18:36] <Mina> i need someone take the control of my ubuntu and do the recommended settings for my ubuntu ??
[18:36] <Ben64> izinucs: oh. well that looks bad. have you tried mounting the ntfs partition?
[18:36] <ThinkT510> juliohm: its availabe in 12.10
[18:36] <thufir_> RyuGuns: it will prompt you.
[18:37] <RyuGuns> Okay...
[18:37] <RyuGuns> Is it scary?
[18:37] <juliohm> ThinkT510, yes, i would like to update my distro, but i can't till finish the current work.
[18:37] <Tech-1> big monsters inside
[18:37] <thufir_> RyuGuns: this is a laptop? with one disc?  if so, then it's easy.
[18:37] <ThinkT510> juliohm: then finish your current work
[18:37] <thufir_> hard drive disc I mean.
[18:37] <juliohm> ThinkT510, i think i'll do that
[18:38] <juliohm> But my current would be much more easy with some C++11 features.
[18:38] <RyuGuns> thufir_: It is a laptop with one disk. THanks.
[18:38] <izinucs> Ben64: no.. sdb is a new out of the box drive that has yet to be formatted.. sda is ntfs and boots fine.. I'm trying to clone sda to sdb using ddrescue because sda is a failing drive.
[18:38] <thufir_> RyuGuns: just select "use entire hard drive" or something like that.  note: it will erase data on the hard drive and put ubuntu there.
[18:38] <ThinkT510> juliohm: should have considered that before you started
[18:39] <Ben64> izinucs: have you tried using ddrescue then?
[18:39] <thufir_> why is the iso > 700 MB?
[18:39] <Gnea> !pm | Mina
[18:39] <juliohm> ThinkT510, before i started? When i started GCC 4.7 didn't exist.
[18:39] <Gnea> Mina: we cannot do that, but someone can surely help troubleshoot your problem and help you figure out how to fix it yourself the next time the problem arises
[18:40] <izinucs> Ben64: doing that now.. I was just concerned because fdisk didn't see sda at all.  ddrescue seems to be running
[18:40] <ThinkT510> juliohm: you got a choice to make, continue as you are or upgrade, i can't decide for you
[18:40] <nuklrbbq> Hi. I'm trying to install an older graphics card in xbmcbuntu. It's a Matrox G550. I have downloaded the package xserver_xorg_video_matrox but I don't know where to go from here.
[18:41] <izinucs> Ben64: I'm using the -n switch and --force to read only the good blocks then I'll go back and try to recover the bad ones
[18:41] <Ben64> izinucs: well dd just copies block by block, so it doesn't matter if fdisk sees it as long as it works
[18:42] <izinucs> Ben64: true.. I was just trying to validate that sda was the correct designation for the drive.. I'd hate to copy a blank drive to a populated one :)
[18:42] <juliohm> ThinkT510, what about gcc-snapshot package from Ubuntu repos?
[18:42] <thufir_> when ubuntu-12.10-server-i386.iso.part finishes downloading, can I burn it to CD?  it's 705M.  isn't that too big?
[18:43] <juliohm> It's description says it's the trunk from GCC, but when i do apt-get install it shows gcc-4.6-multilib
[18:43] <Ben64> izinucs: i see... how about "sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda"
[18:43] <ztgu> Anyone with experience on changing GPUs with vga_switcheroo? ( or some other techniques?)
[18:43] <ThinkT510> !latest | juliohm
[18:43] <izinucs> Ben64: never used that one.. but since ddrescue is running I think I'll leave that try for later
[18:44] <jennie> ThinkT510: the game I am playing in ubuntu1210 is running at 100FPS and this is output of glxgears 301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.003 FPS, the game is running fine in win7 but it is lagging in ubuntu what should I do ?
[18:44] <Ben64> izinucs: that command just grabs info directly from the drive, doesn't mess with data or anything
[18:44] <juliohm> !ppa
[18:44] <juliohm> !sru
[18:45] <ThinkT510> jennie: just play it in windows?
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> juliohm, can we help you with something?
[18:45] <izinucs> Ben64: thanks.  I may be a little superstises (sp?) but I'll try it after the copy is done.
[18:45] <jennie> I dont want to use windows anymore
[18:45] <Muphrid> jennie: is is a steam game?
[18:45] <Muphrid> it*
[18:45] <jennie> yes Muphrid
[18:46] <Muphrid> you could try to use steam-login to login into steam instead of unity if youre not doing it
[18:46] <Ben64> 100fps doesn't sound like it's lagging
[18:46] <ThinkT510> jennie: i don't do much gaming in linux so i'm the wrong person to ask
[18:46] <ztgu> Anyone who knows how to fix black screen av hibernation and sleep? can't get back without turning computer entierly off
[18:47] <nuklrbbq> If I download & install xserver-xorg-video-mga from synaptic, is the driver for my old Matrox card installed and ready or are there further steps I need to take to activate the drivers?
[18:47] <Etadole> Hi, I would know something... I'm using mkdir function in php but I've some permission problem, it creates a folder with permission accorded to www-data, it is not interesting for me
[18:48] <andy_gig> ikonia: helo
[18:48] <izinucs> Etadole: you must make your user a member of the www-data group
[18:49] <TT079> hi
[18:49] <Etadole> izinucs: I already did it, change nothing
[18:49] <crichar32> hi guys i was wondering if anyone here might have installed ubuntu on the newest mac minis by anychance i am running into an issue installing 12.10 64b where install looks to go through good but when it reboots it doesnt seem to find the mbr or something
[18:50] <TT079> hi
[18:50] <bekks> Etadole: Did you log out completely after doing it`
[18:51] <Etadole> bekks: No ! I will do it thanks :)
[18:52] <Etadole> See you later everybody, bye bye
[18:52] <Etadole> And thanks
[18:52] <nuklrbbq> how can I query Ubutu to find out the exact version of a graphics driver currently running?
[18:52] <Ben64> nuklrbbq: which driver
[18:53] <izinucs> nuklrbbq: nvidia? ati? intel?
[18:53] <ztgu> I need some help with closing lid problem on my linux laptop ( screen turns black and I can't get it on?
[18:53] <ztgu> think it has to do something with swap partition?
[18:53] <nuklrbbq> Ben64: I am working on an old system, trying to set it up as a HTPC. Have just added an old Matrox G550 AGP card, but XBMC gives me driver errors. Trying to figugre out what driver it is actually using.
[18:53] <Ben64> oh, I don't know about those cards at all
[18:54] <nuklrbbq> If I download & install xserver-xorg-video-mga from synaptic, is the driver for my old Matrox card installed and ready or are there further steps I need to take to activate the drivers?
[18:54] <ThinkT510> nuklrbbq: lsmod will show you what is already loaded
[18:55] <Ben64> nuklrbbq: a computer that old might not work well as a htpc though
[18:55] <Fira> Hi ! I'm about to migrate my Ubuntu primary parition to LVM. Already got GRUB 'n stuff covered, but is there any specifics steps i need to take to enable LVM Support in Ubuntu's initramfs, or regenerate it ?
[18:55] <Mina> please , in ubuntu i need to use antivirus or it's ok without any program for secfdurity ??
[18:55] <Ben64> !antivirus | Mina
[18:55] <nuklrbbq> Ben64: It works well without the graphics card (ie using on-board graphics). It should be even better with a dedicated card! In theory anyway.
[18:55] <Scunizi> nuklrbbq: also you typically have to either log out and back in or restart the graphics system to get a new driver to function.. restart is your best option.
[18:55] <nuklrbbq> ThinkT510; Thanks, will try that.
[18:56] <Ben64> nuklrbbq: it probably won't be able to decode high definition videos
[18:57] <Fira> nobody? well i'll give it a shot with default initramfs :/
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> nuklrbbq: A newish motherboard could easily have better on-board graphics than an older card.
[18:58] <yux> so I was going to install ubuntu and it's stuck
[18:58] <yux> at copying files, my dvd rom is making sounds in A
[18:59] <yux> the whole thing blocked
[18:59] <ikonia> andy_gig: did you want me ?
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> yux: If you have drive activity it's probably copying files.
[18:59] <andy_gig> yes sir!
[18:59] <andy_gig> ikonia: hi!
[18:59] <andy_gig> :-)
[18:59] <ikonia> andy_gig: how can I help
[19:00] <thufir_> the only way to install without burning a disc is grub?   see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot    (no usb stick that big)
[19:00] <yux> jhutchins_wk: It just made sounds in A and now it completely stopped, do you want a screenshot?
[19:00] <yux> I can't move the mouse around the screen.
[19:00] <wachw> k c
[19:00] <nuklrbbq> Ben64: Low-definition videos are enough for me :-) I can watch stuff downloaded from iplayer no problems using the onboard graphics. PC is a Dell GX260,
[19:01] <yux> http://i.imgur.com/QjqfW.png
[19:01] <yux> It's just stuck in here
[19:01] <yux> it won't let me move my mouse pointer or anything :(
[19:02] <yux> the dvd-rom isn't even readed anymore :(
[19:03] <yux> any suggestions? :(
[19:04] <bekks> yux: Just reboot and start over.
[19:04] <yux> bekks: won't it affect my current installation though? :(
[19:04] <user82> hi. on one notebook ubuntu always puts the filesystem into read only. i did a fsck in recovery menu and it keeps happening again and again. what can i do ?
[19:04] <yux> bekks: can't I do anything at this screen?
[19:04] <bekks> yux: Sure, but currently, you have an unusable system. And with a system stuck, you cant do anything.
[19:05] <yux> bekks: thanks then :(
[19:05] <bekks> user82: You could take a look at dmesg when it happens. Most likely, you harddisk is going to fail soon.
[19:05] <thufir_> the only way to install without burning a disc is grub?   see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot    (no usb stick that big)
[19:05] <user82> bekks, the smart status says 11 broken sectors but everything ok
[19:06] <user82> and bekks it works for a very short time after book
[19:06] <bekks> user82: 11 broken sectors are 11 sectors too much. I'd backup and get a new harddisk.
[19:06] <user82> 2.5 years old hdd but worked on that hevily
[19:06] <bekks> user82: You could investigate further with smartctl and the selftests offered there.
[19:06] <rootie> Lo I'm using a live-cd to use gparted to move all my paritions from a 160GB disk to a 500GB disk - it's finished... but how do I re-install GRUB in to the MBR of the new disk!?
[19:06] <bekks> !grub > rootie
[19:06] <bekks> !grub2 > rootie
[19:07] <rootie> yeah I've already followed that - or I wouldn't be here
[19:07] <rootie> I tried "grub-install /dev/sda' but I get.... Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[19:08] <bekks> rootie: Could you pastebin sudo fdisk -l then please?
[19:08] <rootie> bekks, sure... http://pastebin.com/BdCbhkm5
[19:08] <user82> bekks, what to grep for in dmesg looking for errors?
[19:08] <crichar32> hi guys i was wondering if anyone here might have installed ubuntu on the newest mac minis by anychance i am running into an issue installing 12.10 64b where install looks to go through good but when it reboots it doesnt seem to find the mbr or something
[19:09] <bekks> user82: Nothing to grep, but taking a look at the whole output.
[19:09] <user82> bekks, the notebook is located at my cousin who installed ubuntu for the first time yesterday..i am a little limited in possibilites
[19:09] <user82> but i might give him the hint ot backup the data
[19:10] <thufir_> I burned the iso to disc, DVD but the boot just hangs, and then goes to rescue mode.  what am I doing wrong to install?
[19:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> how did you burn the iso?
[19:10] <user82> bekks, can i output the smart status with installed tools? read only means no insalling new tools
[19:10] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: xfburn
[19:11] <bekks> user82: smartctl is the tool, smartmon-tools is the package. And you have to install it in read-write.
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> what os are you burning under?
[19:11] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: linux.  I selected "burn image.  burn from a prepared compilation, ie iso." and burned the dvd.
[19:11] <user82> thanks bekks .. i will try to do my very best with the limited possibilites
[19:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> what linux flavor?
[19:12] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: ubuntu 12.04 server.
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, server I am ignorant about. can you use startup disk creator?
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Did you verify the DVD?
[19:13] <yux> 10.04.4 still uses gnome 2 right?
[19:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup, tink so. I use gnome-classic
[19:14] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: no.  also, the .iso is deleted.
[19:14] <yux> ntzrmtthihu777: that's buggy...
[19:14] <rootie> bekks, stumped?
[19:14] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: how can I check it?  I need to re-download the whole thing?
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: If you check the md5sum of the disk you should get the same as the md5 on the web.
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> I never had issue.
[19:15] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: doh. thx.
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> check the md5 hash
[19:15] <Nl0st> I have a problem with ubuntu installation... I have tried to boot ubuntu via USB and CD. Then choose what i want to do, and when the splash screen appears (the one with the ubuntu logo), the screen turns dark (almost black, and if you t)
[19:15] <yux> thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[19:15] <bekks> rootie: Take a look at your /etc/fstab and verify that (inside your chroot) everything is mounted as on your real system.
[19:16] <Nl0st> *and it seems like the machine is stuck
[19:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> pres ctrl+alt+f7, Nl0st
[19:16] <rootie> bekks, the wiki makes no reference under "the terminal way" of requiring a chroot
[19:16] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: I don't see how to do that, it's from the CLI against the mounted DVD?
[19:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> haha, look. do you have a windows box nearby? if you do use burncdcc to burn the iso. it did the trick wonderfully
[19:17] <navillus> hi i have a problem with pulseaudio configuration
[19:18] <navillus> when adding a second device to use the hdmi output it doesnt play anything
[19:18] <navillus> aplay does work through the device...
[19:18] <navillus> anyone have any ideas?
[19:18] <user82> bekks, managed to install gsmartcontrol(gui). read failure
[19:18] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: no windows box.
[19:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> who doesnt
[19:18] <Sceler> navillus so far al my audio problems were fixed after a reeboot
[19:19] <Sceler> mess with the settings, reboot
[19:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. ok, let me have a look-see thufir_
[19:19] <Sceler> thufir, whats your problem?
[19:19] <navillus> tried that a couple of times that just makes the analog output work, the hdmi doesnt work under pulse...
[19:20] <navillus> just aplay...
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> what iso are you trying to burn, thufir_
[19:20] <Nl0st> ntzrmtthihu777: tried pressing the buttons, no reaction..(when the screen goes black, the ubuntu logo is displayed, but it's extremely hard to see, if you understand what i'm saying..)
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> try different f keys.
[19:20] <CrazyGangster> Nl0st: try boot with the i915.broken=1 boot parameter
[19:21] <thufir_> it was the i386 desktop for 12.10.  maybe my hardware isn't good enough?  I've always had to use the alternate before.
[19:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, possibly.
[19:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> what are your specs?
[19:22] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Sorry, doesn't have to be mounted, md5sum /dev/dvd0
[19:22] <thufir_> it's an older computer.  few minutes while I gather that.
[19:22] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: md5sum /media/Ubuntu\ 12.10\ i386\(vcd\)   gives error that it's a directory.
[19:22] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: let me try that.
[19:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> try adding a -r option
[19:23] <user82> bekks, error=continue to fstab and a new hdd into amazon basket..solved for now
[19:23] <CrazyGangster> Nl0st: i think when u tryng boot ubuntu your back-light is turned off, that happened in my Acer machine
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> Nl0st: Try adding nomodeset to the kernel command line.
[19:26] <Nl0st> CrazyGangster: Even though the backlight is off, the screen is static for 5+ mins
[19:26] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: I should add -r?
[19:26] <davidokner> Is there any way to burn the Ubuntu 12.04 iso to CD in OS X?
[19:27] <ikonia> davidokner: same way as any CD in os X
[19:27] <ikonia> davidokner: it's just an ISO image
[19:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> if you are trying on a dir adding -r or -R usually adds recursive option. but try it on the .iso instead
[19:27] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: 67087df47afcee6ad36a5c9ceffe1ae5  /dev/dvd2  I'm just checking that.
[19:27] <davidokner> ikonia: Actually it isn't. It is a hybrid format and can't be mounted for burning using disc utility.
[19:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> its an iso. not our fault osx does not know what to do with it
[19:28] <ikonia> davidokner: burnt find for me
[19:28] <CrazyGangster> Nl0st: u tried the safe mode boot?
[19:28] <ikonia> "fine"
[19:28] <davidokner> It is not a standard ISO, it is an ISO encapsulated in another format.
[19:28]  * ntzrmtthihu777 sighs
[19:28] <ikonia> on a 10.7 box
[19:28] <davidokner> ikonia: You burnt Ubuntu 12.04 to a CD in OS X using disk Utility?
[19:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> its a standard iso. I can manipulate it just fine with both linux and win$ iso software
[19:29] <RollinV2> Anyone running Ubuntu on the c7 chromebook? Need to know if unity and gnome3 run smoothy.
[19:29] <davidokner> ntzrmtthihu777: That is because they are loading it despite it NOT being a standard ISO image.
[19:29] <kn1ghtfr0st> how much does a chromebook cost?
[19:29] <RollinV2> The c7 is $200
[19:30] <ikonia> davidokner: I believe it was disk untility, whatever is the pre-installed default tool
[19:30] <ikonia> I don't have my mac in front of me
[19:31] <ikonia> sorry, it's 10.6
[19:31] <ikonia> not 10.7
[19:31] <davidokner> ikonia: You can't mount it in disc utility in os x.
[19:31] <ikonia> I don't remember ever mounting it
[19:31] <davidokner> Disk utility says it is not a valid file system
[19:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> open the mac disc util, then drag the iso image into it
[19:33] <triton_> Hello!  I wonder if there is any way to get some help for a networking question?
[19:33] <lucido> how cacan I install ubuntu if my cdrom is dead and it cant boot from usb
[19:33] <thufir_> ntzrmtthihu777: hardware as so:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473813/   maybe I can't install ubuntu on that hardware?
[19:33] <davidokner> I think it is working now. I closed disk utility and opened it and told it to burn it.
[19:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> see. standard.
[19:33] <b14d3> lucido: Move the hd to a different computer than CAN do one of those things
[19:34] <ikonia> davidokner: that sounds more like what I did
[19:34] <davidokner> I did a google search and it said it wouldn't work because it was a hybrid image and it gave that error.
[19:34] <ikonia> don't remember mounting anything
[19:34] <lucido> b14d3, I can do network boot
[19:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> and google is never wrong
[19:34] <davidokner> It can't mount it because it is a USB/CD hybrid image I think.
[19:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm very strange thufir_
[19:34] <izinucs> triton_: only if you ask a question.
[19:36] <davidokner> Dell has a $300 laptop with a celeron processor that has Ubuntu on it.
[19:36] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: I'm checking that DVD for it's md5, just ensuring that I'm doing it right.
[19:36] <ikonia> davidokner: ......and ?
[19:36] <davidokner> I called Dell to ask which version of Ubuntu they install on their computers and they said they don't know.
[19:36] <triton_> izinucs: OK, I have a remot machine, it has 2 nics, 1 is the Internet, the other is for local network. I am trying to port forward using iptables. The thing is that I have 2 more installations just like this one  and there I am successfully forwarding.
[19:36] <davidokner> But they know if you are getting windows 7 vs. windows 8.
[19:37] <RollinV2> davidoker dell is clueless with their Linux laptops
[19:37] <triton_> Basically I am confused with 1 installation out of 3 with nat, port forwarding.  I don't think pasting iptables rules makes sense, since they are the same in all 3 cases
[19:37] <davidokner> ikonia: I was considering it for my cousin who needs a laptop, but found a referbished for $370 with a core i3 and 4gb more ram etc.
[19:37] <ikonia> davidokner: what do you want us to do about this ?
[19:37] <pzula> I am trying to set up a site for Apache to use from etc/apache2/sites-available and my files are at ~/Sites/projects  ... how do I reference that for my document root?
[19:38] <davidokner> ikonia: I don't think I want you to do anything. Although, maybe somebody with Ubuntu could.
[19:38] <ikonia> davidokner: somebody with ubuntu ? I have ubuntu
[19:38] <triton_> I was wondering what's a good way to analyze a problem where I can't port forward from local network to the Internet
[19:38] <ikonia> davidokner: however I have no control over dells marketing or staff training
[19:38] <davidokner> ikonia: I was telling more because I think it was interesting.
[19:38] <ikonia> it's not really relevant to this channel,
[19:38] <ThinkT510> davidokner: this is a suppost channel
[19:38] <ThinkT510> soppurt
[19:38] <ThinkT510> gahh
[19:38] <ThinkT510> support
[19:38] <pzula> I am trying to set up a site for Apache to use from etc/apache2/sites-available and my files are at ~/Sites/projects  ... how do I reference that for my document root?
[19:39] <RollinV2> pzula you need virtual host in apache
[19:39] <pzula> RollinV2 I think I have that
[19:39] <davidokner> ThinkT510: Well actually I wanted to know originally becuse there was a wireless driver problem with the Dell 2520 I discovered and I wanted to know if it was with the version that is intalled on the laptop from dell.
[19:39] <pzula> I have sites set up at /var/www working fine
[19:39] <pzula> but now I want to use files at ~/Sites instead
[19:40] <RollinV2> Pzula check permissions
[19:40] <davidokner> I'm going to try to install Ubuntu on my 2008 macbook.
[19:40] <davidokner> I only have 12GB free.
[19:41] <RollinV2> That's enough space
[19:41] <pzula> RollinV2 I'm not sure it's permissions... It's when I do sudo service apache2 reload, it tells me this :  DocumentRoot [/~/Sites/projects] does not exist
[19:41] <pzula>  
[19:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. I am running 12.04.1 x64 on a hp dv5
[19:42] <izinucs> triton_: are all the machines the same OS or is ubuntu the only one you're having issues with?
[19:43] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: paste.ubuntu.com/1473836/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473827/ don't seem to match.  that being said, maybe I did the check wrong? or checked the wrong thing?  I've just never had a bad burn or download -- yet.
[19:43] <iceroot> pzula: the path is wrong, there is no /~/ its ~/ or /home/username/ but not /~/ which would be //home/username
[19:43] <ksx4system> I have Samsung Wave 3 (badaOS 2.0 powered) phone and I wonder if it's possible to write SMS messages from my Ubuntu based PC after connecting phone via USB
[19:43] <ksx4system> is it possible?
[19:43] <Guest45177> Im running ubuntu 12.04 on my asus ux31a , i cant disable my backlights on the keyboard
[19:43] <triton_> izinucs: all 3 are ubuntu machines
[19:43] <izinucs> triton_: same version?
[19:43] <Guest45177> help?
[19:43] <triton_> yes, same kernel, same shell
[19:44] <iceroot> ksx4system: have a look if "airdroid" exist also for badaOS
[19:44] <triton_> I am checking right now if it's the same gui
[19:44] <izinucs> triton_: same ubuntu release?
[19:44] <ksx4system> iceroot: it doesn't and "airmessage" or something isn't available in Samsung Kies on WinXP :(
[19:44] <bekks> user82: error=continue will endanger your data.
[19:45] <izinucs> triton_: so in essence .. the machines are acting like the router for the internal network?  providing internet, dhcp, etc?
[19:45] <usr13>  pzula http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=806653
[19:45] <triton_> izinucs: I just checked, it's the same 2.6.35-32 kernel
[19:46] <user82> bekks, i know it is a messy solution but the system was installed yesterday as playground..new hdd is on the way
[19:46] <izinucs> triton_: see my post right above your last one.
[19:46] <triton_> izinucs: yes, the machines are like routers, not dhcp though, the addresses internally are all static
[19:47] <iceroot> ksx4system: smsclient - Ein Programm zum Senden von Short Messages
[19:47] <iceroot> smstools - SMS Server Tools für GSM-Modems
[19:47] <iceroot> ksx4system: maybe something from that
[19:47] <triton_> izinucs: but yes, they provide Internet, they do nat and they act as firewall normally.  We added cameras to every location and it's cameras that I am allowing to be used from outside of every network via ports 44 and 55, and in 1 case out of 3 the same rules don't do it
[19:47] <iceroot> ksx4system: have a look at apt-cache search to see the description in your language
[19:48] <iceroot> ksx4system: maybe also gsm-utils
[19:48] <MikeWorth> Hi, I've upgraded my computer and now have plenty of RAM that it empty; it will fill up with filesystem cache over time, but is there a way to populate it at boot? Would some sort of process with a high niceness that somehow loads things into the cache allow me to do this without affecting whatever else I might be doing?
[19:48] <triton_> izinucs: I am just wondering how would I trace this problem? What should I look at?  I looked at /etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny, nothing there. The forwarding is on in all 3 cases
[19:49] <izinucs> triton_: with everything the same you should be able to mirror the iptables from one of the functional machines, copy it over and have it work.  I guessing though.. there are others here that know much more about the ip tables and bridging two nics.
[19:49] <KsM> MikeWorth: the package `preload' maybe
[19:49] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: what do you think?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473836/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473827/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473852/
[19:49] <pzula> usr13: I set the permissions but I still get DocumentRoot does not exit
[19:50] <triton_> izinucs: I should be able to. I can't overwrite the entire OS though, but I copied over the iptables rules. ufw is off in all 3 cases. /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward is 1
[19:50] <pzula> Warning: DocumentRoot [/home/username/pzula/Sites/projects] does not exist
[19:50] <KsM> MikeWorth: "preload monitors applications that users run, and by analyzing this data, predicts what applications users might run, and fetches those binaries and their dependencies into memory for faster startup times."
[19:50] <bekks> pzula: And does it exist...?
[19:50] <fearphage> ubuntu 12.10 is only recognizing one of my 8 cores. can someone help me resolve this issue? https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[19:50] <thufir_> I can use wodim to extract the .iso from the dvd which I burned from the iso which I downloaded?  (deleted the iso by accident)
[19:50] <pzula> bekks: I am targeting ~/Sites/projects
[19:50] <bekks> pzula: Did you check with: ls -lha /home/username/pzula/Sites/projects
[19:51] <bekks> pzula: Then the path /home/username/pzula/Sites/projects is wrong. It has to be /home/pzula/Sites/project assuming your username is pzula and not username
[19:51] <triton_> izinucs: so I guess I am stuck because it's the same :)  I expected it to work the same and got it to work the same on 2 machines and all of a sudden... unexpected
[19:51] <pzula> bekks: that makes sense! haha sorry for that!
[19:51] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. installed from dvd and usb? wiped hdds clean, new raid partition (0 for test).. what i am doing wrong? someone help please? it gets to the 92% and then errors out. if it matters i had to find tigon drivers to get the
[19:51] <pianotips> network to install...please help?
[19:52] <OerHeks> fearphage, all your 8 cores or 4 cores and HT hypertreading are recognized, what makes you think it does not ?
[19:52] <izinucs> triton_: you might ask in #ubuntu-server.. unfortunately I'm stuck..
[19:52] <triton_> izinucs: ok, thanks
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> what did you burn the dvd with piano
[19:52] <ztgu> How can i figure out if my swap partition works?
[19:52] <MikeWorth> KsM: That looks useful; I'll go away and read up. Thanks
[19:52] <usr13> pzula: Here's another:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/apache2/SSL
[19:52] <pianotips> power iso i think
[19:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> check your system monitor
[19:52] <bekks> ztgu: By typing: cat /proc/swaps
[19:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> under windows? do it using burncdcc, it always did the trick for me
[19:53] <k1l_> ztgu: look at htop, if its shown there :)
[19:53] <pianotips> um i am using a windows box to prep the server for install
[19:53] <pianotips> so uve had this problem too?
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: You can check which device it is by mounting it and using the mount command.  You want to compare the md5sum output to the md5sum that's available on the mirrors in the same directory as the iso,
[19:54] <pianotips> ntzrmtthihu777 but i tried using a usb install and had the same problem
[19:54] <RollinV2> On windows use imgburn for iso
[19:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I get that. there is a freeware program called burncdcc for windows that will burn your iso right. no, I never had issue because I always used burncdcc or the in-ubuntu startup disc creator
[19:54] <ztgu> bekks, k1l_: it's not running at htop and this is my result bekks: Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[19:55] <pianotips> ill try it
[19:55] <pana> hello world
[19:55] <bekks> ztgu: Then you have no swap active.
[19:55] <ztgu> bekks, k1l_:my swap is not working how can I get it to work?
[19:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> ack! its a beginners program!
[19:55] <XTry_XHack> hi pana
[19:56] <pana> hi loui
[19:56] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: what do you mean the same directory as the iso?
[19:56] <bekks> ztgu: pastebin the output of the following commands please: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> pana = hello_world.sh
[19:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> directory = folder
[19:56] <pana> ey loui
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: On the mirrors that have the iso files for download, there should be a checksum file either for each iso or one that has all of them.  Plain text file.  Compare your results with the checksum there.
[19:56] <k1l_> ztgu: what is the issue? did the swap work before? what happend? which ubuntu? what did you do? etc...
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> !nomodeswitch
[19:58] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: it doesn't match https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes  but did I check the correct thing against that list?
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda1: TYPE="vfat"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda2: TYPE="ntfs"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda4: TYPE="ntfs"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda6: TYPE="ntfs"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sda7: TYPE="ext4"
[19:58] <ztgu> /dev/sdb1: TYPE="vfat"
[19:58] <Ben64> !pastebin | ztgu
[19:59] <ztgu> k1l_, bekks: I have a hibernation sleep probelm when closing my laptop lid. I red about the swap partition not working properly. I have 8 gb ram and a 7.5 gb swap.
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: I can't know what's what on your hardware.  If you can mount the device and see the right contents, or if it automounts and you check with mount that should tell you which device it is.
[19:59] <bekks> ztgu: Thats 0.5 GB too less then.
[20:00] <ztgu> I gnow
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Another possibility is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub  although framebuffer problems are usually just a blank screen.
[20:00] <k1l_> ztgu: swap needs to be atleast the amount of ram, if you want suspend
[20:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze whit 8 gigs of ram you don't really need that much swap
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: What hardware are you installing on?
[20:00] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: ok, thanks for the help.  I'm going to wait for ubuntu server to download, get some rest, and try to check this md5 in a bit.  :)
[20:00] <ztgu> bekks, k1l_: I know I made a mistake when making it
[20:00] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: one sec.
[20:00] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: read what i said. your statment is not right
[20:00] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473852/
[20:01] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: You are missing the point.
[20:01] <Pecker> is there drivers to run the ps3's navigation controller wirelessly? also whats the minimum kernel neede to run it via usb?
[20:01] <k1l_> ztgu: so load a livecd/stick and change the partition sizes?
[20:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://askubuntu.com/questions/49109/i-have-16gb-ram-do-i-need-32gb-swap
[20:01] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: That doesn't give me anything I can help you with.
[20:02] <thufir_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1473881/  whoops, pardon about that.
[20:02] <ztgu> k1l_: yeah: It doesn't work while inside this partition? I need to make this partition smaller to add more swap
[20:02] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: You need as much swap as you have ram, (if not more).
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: What's running on it now?
[20:02] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: your statment is still wrong. see what i wrote
[20:02] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: ubuntu 12.04 server
[20:03] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: P4 shouldn't have any hardware that's not well covered by the kernel.
[20:03] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Remind me what your goal is?
[20:03] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: It is clear that you do not have a grasp on all of the uses and needs for the swap partition.
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Oh I get it. when you run out of ram you start swapping. maybe for hybernate, but why use it. I never do
[20:04] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: ok, downloaded iso.  burned to dvd on external usb burner.  rebooted, it saw the new optical drive, but booted to safe mode of 12.04.  I cannot seem to install 12.10             right now I'm downloading 12.10 server
[20:04] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: For hibernating.
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> !upgrade
[20:05] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: How big is your HD?
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> but again, why hibernate?
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> 320gigs
[20:05] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: Why not?
[20:05] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: you cant hibernate when your swap is to small. that is the point.
[20:05] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Generally you don't use the DVD to upgrade, you use aptitude.  Update your sources.list or sources.d files and go from there.
[20:05] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: and just because _you_ dont need to hibernate, its not forbidden for others
[20:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> I understand that. I just fail to see the reason for hibernation
[20:06] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: You have 320G HD and you are worried about allocating 6 or 8G to swap?  (or even 16G?)
[20:06] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: oh, I want a clean install. it's to a different hard drive, and, somehow, way too many broken packages. so, clean install.
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> ntzrmtthihu777: More applicable for desktops and laptops than servers.
[20:06] <Sceler> I have an issue, I just installed Peppermint 3 (based on ubuntu) and now I have a black screen with a flashing _ on startup and I can do nothing about it
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol, I am not worrying about anything, just commenting
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Ah, that explains it.
[20:06] <Sceler> I think I can solve it by using an older driver version of the GMA_500 (Poulsbo) chipset
[20:06] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: There is not much of a reason for hibernation unless it's a laptop
[20:06] <Sceler> Can I make it use that by using the live USB?
[20:06] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: so you shoulnt advice to go with no swap, if the user wants to use hibernation. that is the point here
[20:06] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: Most CD burning programs will do a checksum against the source file to make sure they match, and then check against the file on the download server.
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I am running off a hp dv5 'top
[20:07] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: That's ok, just trying to help youunderstand.
[20:07] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: (You have to do that part.)
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> who was asking, again?
[20:07] <XTry_XHack> wo gibts deutsche hilf
[20:07] <XTry_XHack> hilfe
[20:07] <k1l_> XTry_XHack: #ubuntu-de
[20:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> ich kann deutsch
[20:08] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: yeah, I'm going to stop for now, thanks for help.  I can't find that option in xfburn, and deleted the .iso thinking I didn't need it (stupid),  I'll come back to this.  (k3b won't install, broken packages)
[20:08] <cristian> Hello.. just checking out this xchat... It looks just fine
[20:08] <Pecker> anyone?
[20:08] <cristian> Hey Pecker
[20:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> whatsup, Pecker?
[20:09] <cristian> You 777
[20:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> yes?
[20:09] <cristian> how are you doing pal?
[20:09] <Pecker> is there drivers to run the ps3's navigation controller wirelessly? also whats the minimum kernel neede to run it via usb?
[20:09] <Sceler> any ideas on my boot problem?
[20:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> I am well, waiting for them to update our wifi here
[20:10] <leonardpop> Hello! I have installed ubuntu minimal + gnome3 desktop. Wireless internet is working but slowly and in network menu (up in top right bar) wireless says unmanaged. Can someone help me? thank you!
[20:10] <cristian> Fine!
[20:10] <cristian> Could u tell us about ur problem again Sceler??
[20:10] <yeats> Sceler: if it's not ubuntu, it's not supported here
[20:10] <Sceler> It's a kernel that runs ubuntu underneath, it's just more lightweight
[20:11] <Sceler> and when I boot I only boot to a flashing cursor right after bios
[20:11] <yeats> !derivatives | Sceler
[20:11] <ryuguns> I'm installing on a mac..
[20:11] <usr13> !nomodeset | Sceler
[20:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> ouch, I hear that is tricky
[20:11] <cristian> True
[20:11] <ryuguns> THere are only to options, one is to install and erase OS X.. the other is to partition it myself...
[20:12] <k1l_> Sceler: we dont know what they changed, so ask them for support.
[20:12] <ryuguns> Is there any option to install along OS X like with Windows?
[20:12] <Sceler> ubottu, thanks, that's what I'm looking for exactly
[20:12] <Sceler> usr13 :')
[20:12] <jhutchins_wk> thufir_: See what ubottu just said to Sceler - something to consider.
[20:12]  * ntzrmtthihu777 laughs
[20:12] <bekks> ryuguns: Which hardware do you have?
[20:12] <ryuguns> Macbook 2006
[20:12] <thufir_> jhutchins_wk: thx
[20:13] <yeats> leonardpop: look in /etc/NetworkManger/NetworkManager.conf and change it to 'managed=true'
[20:13] <jhutchins_wk> ruan: You may be able to do it with bootcamp, otherwise you'll probably need to run it in parallels.
[20:13] <thufir_> yeah, it didn't boot to black screen or anything, but thx.
[20:13] <XTry_XHack> pana?
[20:13] <mythtvuser76> any using mythtv with Hauppauge 2250 card?
[20:13] <jhutchins_wk> ryuguns: That was meant for you, bootcamp or parallels.
[20:13] <pana> loui bist du da
[20:13] <ryuguns> Oh...
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> ryuguns: afik you can't load osx from grub (but I could be wrong).
[20:14] <XTry_XHack> ja geh privaten chat pana
[20:14] <k1l_> !german | pana XTry_XHack
[20:14] <ryuguns> I installed refit to boot OS X..
[20:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> they are going into private chat k1l_
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> ryuguns: That should be able to load ubuntu as well.
[20:14] <ryuguns> There is also a "Something else" option to partition it myself, but I don't have a clue what to do there.
[20:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh.
[20:15] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: i read it, but to join the german channel would be more appropriate for peer review.
[20:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> perhaps they just want to shoot the breeze
[20:16] <randomuser44> Hey guys im looking to switch grub bootloader to default to windows instead of ubuntu and I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and I don't see any code, could grub be located somewhere else?
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, not sure how you do that. I can do the reverse, there should be a tool to do it
[20:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> windows bootloader can't load linux, I don't think
[20:17] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: It can chainload almost every OS.
[20:17] <leonardpop> yeats i found the file but cannot edit it. can you please tell me how to edit it?
[20:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> interesting.
[20:17] <usr13> ntzrmtthihu777: That is not what he is asking about.
[20:17] <leonardpop> yeats i found the file but cannot edit it. can you please tell me how to edit it?
[20:17] <Pecker> !grub2 | randomuser44
[20:17] <yeats> leonardpop: try 'gksu gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf'
[20:18] <Pecker> randomuser44: grub2 doesnt have a menu.lst, its all script based now
[20:18] <randomuser44> Oh :) Okay. I will look at the help articles. Much Appreciated.
[20:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, but you can add menu options to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:18] <OerHeks> randomuser44, No /boot/grub/menu.lst. It has been replaced by /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[20:19] <leonardpop> yeats:  that did it, thank you. do i have to restart now?
[20:19] <OerHeks> ntzrmtthihu777, if you answer someone, use the irc-name to adress to her/him
[20:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> its a bad idea to modify the grub.cfg itself, as when you run update-grub any changes you made get lost. if you put your custom menu entries to 40_custom it will remain
[20:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you do that. oerheck
[20:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> new to irc. using irssi
[20:20] <k1l_> randomuser44: just change the standard path in the grub script to the exact name from the windows entry
[20:20] <Far_> I am new to Unix/Linux command, I have this command line "sudo usermod -a -G wireshark $USER", and get error as follow "usermod: group 'wireshark' does not exist",  Should I put my username instead of $USER or what? or change directory to find it?
[20:20] <randomuser44> ntzrmtthihu777: I just need to change Windows to default boot when no key are pressed. easy to do?
[20:20] <b14d3> ntzrmtthihu777: Just start typing their name and hit tab
[20:20] <OerHeks> ntzrmtthihu777, like you did now
[20:20] <Ben64> Far_: what are you trying to accomplish
[20:20] <k1l_> randomuser44: so edit the /etc/default/grub
[20:20] <Far_> setup the wireshark running
[20:21] <alex20032> Hi
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> place the windows menu-entry at the top, it should load by default randomuser44
[20:21] <Ben64> Far_: why usermod then?
[20:21] <XTry_XHack> Gibt es einen deutschen ubuntu chanal
[20:21] <k1l_> randomuser44: and run a update-grub2 afterwards
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> I mean the other way.
[20:21] <k1l_> !german | pana XTry_XHack
[20:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> #ubuntu-de
[20:21] <Far_> I got this set of commands from somewhere to activate wireshark
[20:22] <Ben64> Far_: you should be able to run it by doing "sudo wireshark"
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> but again, running update-grub will eraise any changes you make to grub.cfg | k1l_
[20:22] <Far_> http://ask.wireshark.org/questions/7523/ubuntu-machine-no-interfaces-listed
[20:22] <usr13> Far_: Just use sudo
[20:22] <pana> lass knacken alterr
[20:22] <k1l_> ntzrmtthihu777: dont suggest to edit the grub.cfg:(
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> I did not suggest it.
[20:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> I suggested changing 40_custom
[20:23] <Far_> yes, but capture interface are not active
[20:23] <k1l_> randomuser44: edit the /etc/default/grub. its the line with "GRUB_DEFAULT="
[20:23] <Ben64> Far_: it will work with sudo
[20:23] <usr13> k1l_: ntzrmtthihu777 Here, suggest this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/
[20:23] <yeats> Far_: that error just means there's not a "wireshark" group on your system -
[20:23] <Far_> and what that means?
[20:24] <Far_> is it a privilege thing?
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> grub2 is pretty awesome. You can boot straigt from an .iso
[20:24] <blaizco> Finnaly i could enter here
[20:24] <yeats> Far_: I would just run it with 'sudo' as others are suggesting
[20:24] <Far_> what is the exact command for that?
[20:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> why is everyone's answer to anything is "use sudo"?
[20:24] <ztgu> Hi, how can i make new partitions with gparted? I
[20:24] <randomuser44> k1l_: Thanks I found that line. How do I know what number Windows is though. I heard it was mostly always 4.
[20:24] <yeats> Far_: 'sudo wireshark'?
[20:25] <Ben64> ntzrmtthihu777: its not the answer for everything
[20:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> if its just ubuntu and windows then 4 should do it
[20:25] <Far_> so then Any time I want to run it, I could not run the ewireshark icon without doing this step?
[20:25] <randomuser44> Thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[20:25] <k1l_> randomuser44: you can write there the exact name of the entry and it will boot that line
[20:25] <Tex_Nick> Far : also you might have a look at /usr/share/doc/wireshark-common/README.Debian
[20:25] <ztgu> Hi, how can i make new partitions with gparted? I
[20:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> run gparted, choose some unpartitioned space, choose the create option. ztgu
[20:27] <ztgu> ntzrmtthiu777: unpartitioned space is called unallocated?
[20:27] <Patero-ng> does anyone knows how to install traceroute
[20:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> nope. check #airmon-ng
[20:28] <blaizco> patero use: sudo apt-get install traceroute
[20:28] <Patero-ng> it says is not there
[20:28] <Patero-ng> is called by another or sum
[20:28] <ztgu> ntzrmtthiu777: unpartitioned space is called unallocated?
[20:28] <blaizco> are you using 12.10 right?
[20:28] <malkauns> how do i reinstall unity and compiz, i messed up my compiz install when building and installing from source :(
[20:28] <Patero-ng> ubuntu 11
[20:29] <blaizco> humm i don't know if ubuntu 11 have the repository for traceroute i mean, is a basic package
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> I believe so, ztgu. been a bit
[20:29] <blaizco> but
[20:29] <Guest25138> ubuntu 12.04 is the best distro for my hardware , but i would like to change the desktop enviorment. and run it from 12.04 is it possible?
[20:29] <blaizco> write: sudo apt-get update
[20:29] <blaizco> and then try again
[20:29] <Patero-ng> I did
[20:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> what desktop environment do you want, guest?
[20:30] <yeats> !info | traceroute
[20:30] <Patero-ng> has noinstalation candidates
[20:30] <yeats> !info traceroute
[20:30] <Guest25138> a lightweight , maybe xfce
[20:30] <leonardpop> yeats: after i did what you said i rebooted and my wireless was unavailable and internet not working at all. I undone the changes to networkmanager.conf and now i am back to square one: internet is slow and wireless says is unamanged
[20:30] <yeats> Patero-ng: make sure you have the "universe" repo enabled
[20:30] <Guest25138> i had xfce whit mint 14 nadia before but it didnt work so good whit the hardware
[20:30] <blaizco> sudo apt-cache search traceroute | grep traceroute -n
[20:30] <Patero-ng> k
[20:31] <blaizco> try this
[20:31] <ztgu> How much swap is recommended?
[20:31] <ztgu> I have 8 gb ram
[20:31] <blaizco> to find a traceroute alternative
[20:31] <blaizco> i found this: sudo apt-get install tcptraceroute
[20:31] <k1l_> ztgu: equally swap if you want hibernation
[20:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> I need moar ram >.<
[20:32] <blaizco> Patero, did you tried the command i typed?
[20:32] <ztgu> k1l_: how do I launch swap when I have created it?
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: 2x RAM up to about 2GB, which is all you want to deal with unless you need suspend-to-disk.
[20:32] <mythtvuser76> quit
[20:32] <k1l_> ztgu: put it into the fstab.
[20:32] <Sceler> !nomodeset
[20:32] <mythtvuser76> exit
[20:33] <k1l_> ztgu: but if you just make it bigger it should stay as it is in fstab
[20:33] <mythtvuser76> quit
[20:33] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: man swapon
[20:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to cut down on compiz ram usage? I want only a few features of compiz
[20:33] <yeats> leonardpop: that should have done it as far as I know, but whether NetworkManager is managing your connection would not affect connection speed
[20:33] <Guest925> Does anyone know why I can't open the "Phone" or "Card" directories on a phone mounted with mtpfs?
[20:33] <Gnea> ntzrmtthihu777: adjust the settings using the compiz manager
[20:33] <Gnea> !compiz
[20:34] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk, k1l_: I just made 15.98 gb swap partition. I have 8 gb. Is that good for hibernation, suspend to disk and sleep?
[20:35] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: It's more than you need, but it will work.
[20:35] <k1l_> ztgu: like i said: 1:1 is enough
[20:36] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: You only need swap =  ram (best to round up a bit) for std and if you actually use that much your system will be very slow.
[20:37] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk, k1l_: If i make my swap smaller will my system be faster?
[20:37] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk, k1l_: My /etc/fstab is empty
[20:37] <k1l_> ztgu: swap is slow. so if you need to use swap because your ram is too small it will be slow no matter how much swap you make
[20:38] <k1l_> ztgu: and you should work on one problem at a time. you problem was to make swap bigger for hubernation. and not to speed up your system
[20:39] <randomuser44> memtest86 was actually 4. I think Windows is 5.
[20:40] <mythtvuser12> any mythtv user?
[20:40] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk, k1l_: I just ran "swapon /dev/sda5" where my swap is located and nothing came up.
[20:41] <fearphage> OerHeks: did you click my link? cpuinfo and lscpu both report one cpu
[20:42] <OerHeks> fearphage, no, it reports 8 cores
[20:43] <fearphage> OerHeks: you are looking at the 12.04 read out. compare it to the 12.10 report
[20:44] <OerHeks> fearphage, please post both again
[20:45] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks, i think it's https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3
[20:46] <OerHeks> yes, that is the 12.04 part
[20:46] <cucujoidea> Hello, while trying to install ubuntu 12.04 AMD64, I got following problem: my SATA hdd does not show up when the partitioning dialog opens; It is visible in gparted though. Is there a possibility to make it show up for installation?
[20:46] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks, scroll down
[20:47] <abailarri> Hello. Has anyone used ekiga? I can not register my user. I get an error
[20:47] <usr13> ztgu: Nothing is supposed to come up.
[20:48] <XTry_XHack> pana?
[20:48] <subman> I have a piece of software to install that requires java 6 or better.  When I check I get:  java version "1.7.0_09".  How to tell if I meet the minimum requirement?
[20:48] <jhutchins_wk> ,versions openjava
[20:49] <usr13> ztgu: Just so you understand;  Not having a swap partition set up on your computer does not make it run faster. (I know that some people are under that impression but that is not the case.)
[20:49] <jhutchins_wk> Whups.
[20:49] <luv> hey
[20:49] <Pecker> subman: java 6 is "1.6.blah", you have 1.7.blah.. which means you have JAva 7
[20:49] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick  ic,  fearphage: there is a package " intel-microcode " for updating processor in the kernel ( also available for AMD > amd-microcode ) install it and reboot, maybe it will fix
[20:49] <subman> Pecker, Thanks!
[20:50] <Pecker> np
[20:51] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: With 8G you shouldn't have to use swap unless you suspend to disk.  It's good to have some in case you have a rogue memory leak or something, but if your system tries to swap more than about 2G of data it will slow down.  Trying to manage 16G of swapped files will really bog down the system, but just becasue it's there doesn't mean it will be used.
[20:51] <ztgu> udr13: My sleep and hibernation does not work, i need swap to fix the problem. But the thing is that i don't understand how it works just yet.
[20:51] <fearphage> Oradeanul: first file is cpuinfo from 12.04. 2nd one is from 12.10 https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3 then there is lscpu, dmesg, and other all from 12.10
[20:51] <Sceler> !nomodeset
[20:51] <luv> I like unity and all only one glitch here - I would like to make an exception for the terminal icon to start a new terminal every time i click it
[20:51] <luv> (yes i know about middle-click :-) )
[20:52] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks, thanks for the post on that ... i have a friend who has the same problem ... will pass that along
[20:52] <Patero-ng> yes blaizco
[20:52] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I understand.
[20:52] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, i was affected too, with athlonII x2
[20:53] <blaizco> and it worked patero?
[20:53] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: I think the swapon command should enable the swap, top should show it available.
[20:53] <kmonlinux> cant connect a usb modem to ubuntu help
[20:53] <jhutchins_wk> kmonlinux: -> #ubuntu
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> kmonlinux: Um, nevermind.
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> kmonlinux: Does it show up in dmesg?
[20:54] <yalu> hi. I can't figure out how to run "make oldconfig" on a x86-64 so it generates a configuration for i386
[20:54] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I used swapon command. and spesified the partition "swapon /dev/sda5". I can't find it in "top"? any suggestions?
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> kmonlinux: Does lsusb see it?
[20:54] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: man swapon
[20:56] <yalu> sorry got it: export ARCH=i386
[20:56] <jhutchins_wk> ztgu: You may need to put it in the fstab for swapon to work. I don't think so, but maybe.  The partition is type linux swap, right?
[20:58] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: The partition is linux swap, I am just about to put it in fstab
[20:58] <fearphage> OerHeks: first file is cpuinfo from 12.04. 2nd one is from 12.10 https://gist.github.com/ebabcc23991b741f67f3 then there is lscpu, dmesg, and other all from 12.10
[20:59] <OerHeks> fearphage i read that,  there is a package " intel-microcode " for updating processor in the kernel ( also available for AMD > amd-microcode ) install it and reboot, maybe it will fix
[21:00] <cliff> Hello Everyone.
[21:00] <blaizco> Hi there cliff
[21:00] <cliff> Is there some reason java doesn't like being installed on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[21:00] <usr13> cliff: no
[21:00] <blaizco> cliff, what problems you have?
[21:01] <blaizco> did you used open-jdk?
[21:01] <ztgu> jhutchins_wk: I am going to reboot my system, to check with swap
[21:01] <fearphage> OerHeks: i'll give it a shot
[21:01] <ztgu> ty
[21:02] <pianotips> I am trying to install 12.04 (64) from a dvd, during the base install (near the end) it gives me a cannot install the kernel into the target system kernel package 'linux-server'.. installed from dvd and usb? wiped hdds clean, new raid partition (0 for test).. what i am doing wrong? someone help please? it gets to the 92% and then errors out. if it matters i had to find tigon drivers to get the
[21:02] <pianotips> network to install...please help?
[21:02] <pianotips> not the cd, usb ... tried everything now
[21:02] <blaizco> Pianotips i have the same problem :/
[21:02] <cliff> I'm trying to use a website that won't load because it's missing a plug-in in firefox and it seems there isn't a plugin that exists.  Maybe I need open-jdk.
[21:02] <pianotips> any other suggestions?
[21:02] <pianotips> i hear u blaizco
[21:02] <pianotips> sigh
[21:03] <kmonlinux> yes
[21:03] <usr13> cliff: Maybe?  It should be telling you what the problem is.   Do you have any error report you can give us?  Or the site?  (We don't have much go go on here... yet.)
[21:04] <kmonlinux> it shows in dmesg so what shd i do
[21:07] <randomuser44> grrrr...this ubuntu install freezes at the logging screen everytie...12.04 LTS
[21:07] <kmonlinux> cant connect a usb modem to ubuntu help
[21:07] <ztgu> I just rebooted my laptop
[21:07] <fearphage> OerHeks: no go. Still reporting 1 core
[21:07] <usr13> free
[21:07] <ztgu> what am I supposed to see after in top to find swap?
[21:08] <usr13> ztgu: free
[21:08] <OerHeks> fearphage, sorry to hear that, i have no clue
[21:08] <usr13> ztgu: (the output of free will tell you about the swap partition)
[21:08] <cliff> usr13: I don't have a errror code from the website.
[21:09] <usr13> cliff: Ok.  Sorry, we can't help you.
[21:09] <Tex_Nick> !nomodeset | randomuser44
[21:09] <ztgu> usr13: I grepped "top | grep free" It's a lot of outbut
[21:09] <fearphage> OerHeks: thanks for trying. i'll keep asking and see if anyone else has any suggestions
[21:09] <ztgu> usr13: outputs*
[21:09] <usr13> ztgu: Never mind.... sorry.
[21:10] <usr13> ztgu: free | pastebinit  #And we'll have a look.
[21:10] <OerHeks> fearphage, maybe a post @ askubuntu.com helps too
[21:11] <ztgu> usr13: what is the pastebinits program for?
[21:11] <usr13> ztgu: Open terminal, type  "free |pastebinit"  hit enter, show us resulting URL.
[21:11] <ThinkT510> !pastebinit | ztgu
[21:12] <usr13> ztgu: pastebinit is a command-line pastebin client
[21:12] <ztgu> http://pastebin.com/pd2XUvZg
[21:13] <usr13> ztgu: Ok good.  You now have swap.  "Swap:     16755708"
[21:13] <usr13> ztgu: You're done.
[21:14] <ztgu> usr13: ty, I am going to test it with hibernation now
[21:16] <randomuser44> Tex_Nick: So I just add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" to my /etc/default/grub file?
[21:16] <fearphage> how would i see my current boot options?
[21:18] <woo> randomuser44: there should be a warning about editing the grub.cfg directly.  Is that what you are trying to do?
[21:18] <randomuser44> well 12.04 LTS is freezing at login screen after a few seconds. I'm trying to fix it.
[21:18] <randomuser44> I think it is related to the video card.
[21:18] <ztgu_> Hi, sleep didn't work on my computer (suspend to RAM)
[21:19] <blaizco> why you don't use 12.10? :)
[21:19] <ztgu_> suggestions?
[21:20] <Tex_Nick> randomuser44, it's been a while since i had to use that ... confirm it with someone else here
[21:21] <diverdude> hi, im trying to install boost but i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474068/ How do i fix that?
[21:23] <woo> diverdude: did you search forums?
[21:24] <usr13> diverdude: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> woo  the guy is looking for help, don't send him away
[21:24] <woo> Wasent trying to Monkey.  Just found a solution that I dont know if Diver has tried yet.
[21:25] <diverdude> usr13, 12.10
[21:25] <usr13> diverdude: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f
[21:26] <faryshta> Hi, I just installled the bcmwl-kernel-source driver on a laptop with broadcom wifi. The wifi is still not working. What is there left to do?
[21:26] <diverdude> usr13, that did not remedy the problem :(
[21:26] <milamber> !broadcom
[21:26] <BluesKaj> diverdude, you could run sudo apt-get -f install , or copy and paste all those depenedencies and install them , if you feel adventurous
[21:26] <ztgu_> Hi, sleep didn't work on my computer (suspend to RAM) suggestions?
[21:26] <OerHeks> faryshta, did you restart after install ?
[21:26] <faryshta> OerHeks: yup.
[21:27] <user82> faryshta, i had that same issue...did not solve it yet
[21:27] <faryshta> user82: :(
[21:27] <woo> diverdude: I found a forum that http://askubuntu.com/questions/223237/unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages and Im not trying to offend Monkey by offering my google search :-)
[21:27] <user82> faryshta, if you go to the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf you can see
[21:27] <user82> # replaced by b43 and ssb.
[21:27] <user82> blacklist bcm43xx
[21:28] <user82> the people usually have a reason to blacklist stuff..but give it a try and edit hte file as root adding a "#" in front of blacklist
[21:28] <wdp_> hey, i'd like to update from 11.10 oniric to 12.10 - Though it only offers me LTS and i don't want the lts
[21:29] <faryshta> user82: ok let me try
[21:29] <wdp_> what shall i do?
[21:29] <user82> wdp_, in the software center under packet sources (might be called repositories in english) you can change it
[21:29] <jrib> wdp_: you upgrade to 12.04 first and then to 12.10
[21:29] <ThinkT510> wdp_: you can only go directly from one release to the next
[21:29] <OerHeks> wdp_, 11.10 > 12.04 > 12.10 is the only way, or do a fresh install 12,10 ( i prefer, because it can take hours to upgrade)
[21:30] <blaizco> don't upgrade, upgrade is headache :/
[21:30] <randomuser44> trying to use pico to edit /etc/default/grub and when I write out it tells me the file systme is read only...I used the sudo comamnd...how can I write to this file?
[21:30] <wdp_> yeah but the update gui just shows me "theres a new version available" and just shows me the lts
[21:30] <jrib> randomuser44: pastebin the output of "mount"
[21:30] <user82> well i would like to add for wdp_ if you really pull it off in 12.04 you have to use my method to make it show 12.10 as "non-lts"
[21:31] <randomuser44> well im using it in recovery mode so I can't do that jrib
[21:31] <user82> randomuser44, i think your filesystem is read only
[21:31] <randomuser44> I'm able to access the file system in a root comamnd prompt
[21:31] <ThinkT510> wdp_: you can't skip releases when upgrading (apart from lts to lts)
[21:31] <Cavisty> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-dnb-j-anderson
[21:31] <user82> "mount -o remount -t /" randomuser44
[21:31]  * wdp_ sighs
[21:32] <user82> sorry randomuser44 "mount -o remount -rw /"
[21:32] <OerHeks> Cavisty, please don't spam
[21:32] <wdp_> ThinkT510, did i say i want to skip releases?
[21:32] <ThinkT510> wdp_: yes, you said you want to go from 11.10 directly to 12.10
[21:32] <faryshta> milamber: tried that page. Didn't worked
[21:32] <jrib> randomuser44: mount -o remount,rw /
[21:32] <wdp_> no i didn't say i want to go that route directly.
[21:33] <wdp_> i'm worried because it doesn't show me the normal versions - it only shows the next LTS.
[21:33] <user82> jrib, i think it is the same thing..good to know that also works
[21:33] <wdp_> user82, yeah, i already selected that, but still only shows the lts.
[21:33] <jrib> wdp_: 12.04 is the version after 11.10.  What is your question?
[21:33] <ThinkT510> wdp_: it won't show you another version because thats the only one you can update to from 11.10
[21:34] <wdp_> ThinkT510, ah! Thanks :)
[21:34] <user82> wdp_, the release by release upgrade might be true..only 12.04 can show 12.10 when selected to show all upgrades
[21:34] <xpistos> Is there a way to get a list of packages installed on a computer, reinstall and have that list of software reinstalled without install each package?
[21:34] <jrib> xpistos: why would you want to reinstall every package?
[21:35]  * wdp_ has been just a bit confused because I thought there would be another -non-lts between 11.10 and 12.x.x-lts
[21:35] <idlemind> jrib: it would be useful to verify all packages in a system kind of like a validation repair
[21:35] <xpistos> jrib: Well I am trying to figure out a way to do a clean install and install the software without taking two days to do so
[21:35] <ThinkT510> wdp_: ubuntu releases are every 6 months
[21:35] <randomuser44> user82, jrib: Thank you. It wasa mounted as read only. Remounted with write access worked. Why the crap did it mount as read only.
[21:35] <idlemind> xpistos: i believe there is a thread on the ubuntu forums about doing that
[21:35] <wdp_> mhm lol.
[21:35] <xpistos> I am more concerned with install Virtualbox, Comix, etc
[21:35] <jrib> idlemind: debsums?
[21:35] <hakin9> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and don't wish to upgrade to 12.10. I use Gnome 3 shell version 3.4, I would like to upgrade to version 3.6. Is it safe to do so?
[21:36] <wdp_> "an unresolvable problem occured "hold back corrupt packages" (sorry for my translation, but it's german, so..)
[21:36] <jrib> !clone | xpistos
[21:36] <wdp_> not sure what i did there when i initially set that box up. That's the box of my mom. Any idea how i can solve that?
[21:37] <ThinkT510> wdp_: if you are using ppas uninstall them
[21:37] <brx_> Does rhythmbox have config/themes ? Like with xchat where u can downlpad other users config?
[21:37] <wdp_> ThinkT510, where/how can i check that?
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> xpistos  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474097/
[21:38] <brx_> I want the artist window to display the number of albums instead of total tracks for an artist
[21:38] <ztgu_> free
[21:39] <peppermint> !nomodeset
[21:39] <ThinkT510> wdp_: i don't use ppas sorry
[21:39] <randomuser44> still freezing at login screen. Not sure what to do. Can I run a command from recovery root shell to update all packages?
[21:39] <randomuser44> apt-get update kind of thing.
[21:39] <a216vcti> Hey guys, I'm back. I tried downloading openJDK and I'm getting the following error:  Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:39] <a216vcti>  oracle-java7-installer
[21:39] <a216vcti> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:40] <wdp_> ThinkT510, i think, me neither.
[21:40] <a216vcti> I saw this: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/23008-howto-install-java-7-on-ubuntu-1204/
[21:40] <a216vcti> and was wondering if that was still correct.
[21:40] <a216vcti> Should I try that procedure?
[21:40] <ThinkT510> wdp_: if you just stuck to software in the repos then there shouldn't be a problem in upgrading
[21:41] <ThinkT510> wdp_: i've always fresh installed
[21:41] <k1l_> a216vcti: that is an ppa source. that cant be supported here
[21:41] <jrib> wdp_: you should investigate the actual error you are getting from update-manager
[21:41] <hakin9> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and don't wish to upgrade to 12.10. I use Gnome 3 shell version 3.4, I would like to upgrade to version 3.6. Is it safe to do so?
[21:41] <a216vcti> what is ppa?
[21:41] <wdp_> jrajeesh, there's not much more in there, then i told you. pretty useless error dialog.
[21:42] <wdp_> ups.
[21:42] <wdp_> jrib, :)
[21:42] <jrib> wdp_: run it in engish and pastebin the full message
[21:42] <dufa> !ppa | a216vcti
[21:42] <k1l_> a216vcti: its a repository that is maintained by a private person, not ubuntu itself
[21:42] <a216vcti> ok.
[21:42] <a216vcti> thank you.
[21:43] <xpistos> MonkeyDust: Thank you. I will try that out
[21:43] <a216vcti> How would you all recommend that I install OpenJDK?
[21:43] <jrib> !java | a216vcti
[21:43] <k1l_> a216vcti: why dont you take the openjdk 7 java?
[21:43] <a216vcti> ok.
[21:44] <a216vcti> k1l_ I'm a noob so please forgive, when you say 'take' you mean install, correct?
[21:45] <wdp_> jrib, is there a way to see installed packages which are not part of ubuntu (third party / ppa) so i could remove them? And is there some command how i could get more verbose output on which packages are "hold back"?
[21:45] <faryshta> My chipset is bcm5787m ubuntu and I installed bcmwl-kernel-source driver but I can't get it to work
[21:45] <faryshta> curiosly enough it works with the liveUSB
[21:45] <k1l_> a216vcti: yes, there is openjdk-7-jre or -jdk in the universe repos fro ubuntu. that should be the first steps to try
[21:47] <randomuser44> oh snap. adding nomodeset to grub config did work! I forgot to run update-grub2. Silly me. Thanks all who helped!
[21:47] <a216vcti> k1l_ :( I should have done that first. I tried using the apt-get install openjdk-7-jre and came across this error:
[21:47] <jrib> wdp_: yes, you could use ppa-purge.  Yes, logs for the upgrade are made.  Again, I suggest you start by just pastebinning the actual error you are seeing in english and in full
[21:47] <a216vcti> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:47] <a216vcti>  oracle-java7-installer
[21:47] <a216vcti> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:48] <k1l_> a216vcti: which ubuntu are you using?
[21:48] <guntbert> !paste  | a216vcti
[21:48] <a216vcti> ok. sorry about that.
[21:48] <a216vcti> k1l_: I'm using 12.04 LTS
[21:49] <k1l_> a216vcti: run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to make sure your system is uptodate. (it will not upgrade to 12.10)
[21:49] <a216vcti> Hang tight, it says that openjdk-7-jre is installed.
[21:50] <okner> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my 2008 macbook and the cursor can't move diagnoally? Could an update be released to fix that?
[21:50] <faryshta> I have a laptop HP 6735B. Which is the proper wifi driver to use?
[21:50] <blaizco> why people install 12.04 and not 12.10 :/
[21:50] <what_left> i just did a fresh install of lubuntu on a 2005 laptop, and it seems to be reading from disk almost constantly and act generally sluggish. i have 256mb memory, 88mb of which is just buffers/cache according to free -m. what gives?
[21:51] <k1l_> faryshta: can you show the line in "lspci" where is the wifi mentioned?
[21:51] <jrib> !lts | blaizco
[21:51] <jrib> what_left: anything interesting in top?
[21:52] <wdp> jrib, funny. export LANG="en" doesn't work for do-release-upgrade.
[21:52] <what_left> jrib: firefox at 30% mem usage, but otherwise no (all is 3% or below)
[21:53] <a216vcti> The website still doesn't work.
[21:53] <a216vcti> It still says it needs a plugin.
[21:54] <k1l_> a216vcti: which website? you are sure it really needs some plugin in and that isnt a faulty website?
[21:54] <Gavilan2> How much memory does ubuntu need to work fine if I'll only use the browser for not extremelly interactive not audio/video things?
[21:54] <faryshta> k1l_: it just say BCM5787M for ethernet.
[21:54] <okner> When I move the cursor diagonally it moves in a stair-case fasion instead of a straight line.
[21:54] <a216vcti> k1l_: I checked it on my windows machine. It's ADP self service portal for my work.
[21:54] <k1l_> faryshta: can you pastebin the whole output?
[21:54] <a216vcti> I verified it's up.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> Gavilan2  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[21:55] <faryshta> k1l_: sorry I can't I am writting from another computer.
[21:55] <a216vcti> Do you know where I would be able to view logs?
[21:55] <Gavilan2> MonkeyDust: Great! thank you...
[21:55] <okner> Two finger scroll isn't working either.
[21:56]  * blaizco i know what is lts, but :/
[21:56] <jrib> wdp: try LANGUAGE
[21:56] <a216vcti> k1l_: I don't necessarily need to have that website work, it's just that I don't like the fact that it's not working.
[21:57] <faryshta> k1l_: codepad.org/ZzxWmPj5
[21:57] <cab> Hi, just asking if it's possible on pidgin to hide irc  status messages  like (10:57:42 PM) delinquentme left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).
[21:57] <Tex_Nick> randomuser44, there are some people here that can probably help you ... you might try pasting the output of sudo lshw -c display to http://paste.ubuntu.com ... ask your question again then provide a link to the pastebin link
[21:58] <Ziber> Is there any keyboard shortcuts, or places I can set keyboard shortcuts, to move a window to another workspace?
[21:58] <faryshta> how do I know if Ubuntu 12.10 recognize my wifi chipset? codepad.org/ZzxWmPj5
[21:58] <a216vcti> k1l_: The plugin is supposed to show a .pdf file
[21:58] <okner> I fixed two finger scrolling, it was an option.
[21:58] <cab> Hi, just asking if it's possible on pidgin to hide irc  status messages  like "(10:57:42 PM) delinquentme left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving)."
[21:58] <cab> ?
[21:58] <faryshta> the chipset works when using liveUSB or the 11.10 installation
[21:58] <okner> Diagonal cursor movement is still not working for me.
[21:58] <Gavilan2> Is there any theme or skin or something to make ubuntu look as close as possible to windows? (or mac if that's not possible)?
[21:59] <xangua> cab: enable the hide join/leave plugin
[21:59] <faryshta> k1l_: what do you think?
[21:59] <Tex_Nick> randomuser44, the problem you are experiencing is one i've seen solved here many times in the past
[21:59] <k1l_> faryshta: can you pastebin a " codepad.org/ZzxWmPj5
[21:59] <randomuser44> :) All fixed though.
[21:59] <k1l_> faryshta: can you pastebin a "rfkill list"
[22:00] <k1l_> faryshta: or is there a hardware button/switch which turns the wifi off?
[22:00] <okner> How do I invert scrolling direction?
[22:01] <k1l_> faryshta: i dont know which chip the build in that laptop
[22:01] <faryshta> codepad.org/yDQn8noO
[22:01] <cab> xangua: k hmm may I ask how you install a plugin on pidgin?
[22:01] <faryshta> k1l_: I don't get it it works when I boot using the 11.10 installation and the liveUSB
[22:01] <okner> Three problems. 1. Horizontal scrolling isn't working 2. Scrolling direction is inverted 3. Diagonal cursor movement doesn't work.
[22:02] <faryshta> k1l_: So what can it be?
[22:03] <xangua> cab: if you don't have the hide join/leave plugin in the plugins list install  pidgin-plugin-pack
[22:03] <xangua> !info pidgin-plugin-pack | cab
[22:03] <faryshta> k1l_: should I restart and check on the bios?
[22:03] <k1l_> faryshta: does it show up on a "lsusb" ?
[22:04] <xpistos> MonkeyDust: Didn't work, it just said it couldn't find a bunch of packages and then stopped
[22:04] <k1l_> faryshta: have you tried the "restricted manager" if it wants to install a 3rd party driver?
[22:05] <faryshta> k1l_: The restricted manager doesn't work on 12.10 AFAIK. At least not when I try it
[22:05] <faryshta> k1l_: and lsusb shows nothing related to internet
[22:05] <ARSM> I just updated my google chrome from Version 23.0.1271.64 to Version 23.0.1271.97. Now my youtube videos are afflicted with "yellow snow." I'm not in the HTML5 trial...
[22:05] <ARSM> I'm on oneiric.
[22:06] <faryshta> k1l_: the way I have tried additional drivers is by software center->software origins-> additional drivers
[22:07] <cab>  xangua: k thx need to restart now
[22:07] <stobix> yo. If I have made my own xkb layout and want gnome-control-center to recognize it, what file is it I must edit? I've tried adding an entry to each of the /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/*.lst files
[22:07] <faryshta> k1l_: what do you think?
[22:07] <stobix> setxkbmap recognizes my new layout, I just want the gui fluff to find it as well
[22:09] <faryshta> k1l_: rebooted on 11.10 and now it doesn't work there either
[22:09] <k1l_> faryshta: dont know, sry
[22:10] <faryshta> how can I know if my wifi card is recognized? codepad.org/ZzxWmPj5
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> faryshta  iwconfig
[22:10] <Gavilan2> What's a good free antivirus for Ubuntu? And a free good password manager?
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> !av | Gavilan2
[22:10] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: iwconfig shows eth0 and l0
[22:11] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: I mean the hardware.
[22:11] <k1l_> faryshta: if it is not shown on lspci its no recognized
[22:11] <jak2000> hi all
[22:11] <guntbert> faryshta: when you show us a pastebin-link please show the http://  part as well - makes it easier for us to follow
[22:12] <faryshta> k1l_: I restarted taking out the ethernet cable. Now the wifi works. Lolwut?
[22:13] <k1l_> faryshta: maybe there is some hp mainboard acpi going on which blocks the wifi card
[22:13] <faryshta> k1l_: how do I disable that? I put the cord back and the wifi died again.
[22:13] <k1l_> faryshta: sry, dont know
[22:14] <faryshta> k1l_: well at least now I know my problem.
[22:14] <faryshta> Hi. I have a problem with the ethernet / wifi. If I plug the ethernet cable the wifi dies.
[22:14] <guntbert> faryshta: thats quite normal - lan takes precedence over wlan
[22:14] <faryshta> guntbert: I mean I have to reboot to get the wifi back again
[22:15] <guntbert> faryshta: thats not normal - sorry
[22:16] <faryshta> guntbert: how do I remove the rfkill from a device?
[22:16] <faryshta> guntbert: my wifi is hard blocked
[22:17] <faryshta> my wifi is hard blocked according to rfkill. How do I unblock it?
[22:18] <guntbert> faryshta: hard-blocked means by hardware - normally a switch
[22:19] <faryshta> guntbert: how do I solve that?
[22:19] <Gavilan2> what are ubuntu's "Unsuported updates"?
[22:20] <guntbert> faryshta: if you don't have a switch - I have no idea, sorry (maybe talk to the manufacturer of your notebook)
[22:20] <jak2000> hi all how to remove mysql server on a ubuntu server? i try: sudo apt-get remove mysql-server but not remove.. here the error: http://pastebin.com/WGLDpkr8 any advice how to remove?
[22:20] <jak2000> i try access to my mysql data dir.. and cant see: http://pastebin.com/WkEMhE4f   any advice?
[22:21] <faryshta> guntbert: I keep pushing the wifi switch but it doesn't change. Nor does rfkill
[22:21] <guntbert> faryshta: looks like a hardware problem to me - talk to the manufacturer
[22:22] <Jstthe01> Hello all, can anyone give me some help gettting a ALFA AWUS036H usb dongle to work in Ubuntu 12.10
[22:22] <fxfitz> I'm trying to recover data from a friends drive (windows) from an Ubuntu live cd. Any hints?
[22:22] <faryshta> guntbert: ok thanks
[22:22] <okner> I can't install package "naturalscrolling" it says it is not found after adding the repository.
[22:23] <spacecase> I have a macbook pro 8,2 how can I get ububut 12.10 to boot via EFI?  There's so many different instructions online, I can't tell which are up to date, nor can I get it to work.  I've gotten as far as getting to grub2 via efi, but I can't figure to how actually start ubuntu
[22:23] <dufa> okner: you need to run apt-get update after adding a new repo
[22:23] <okner> dufa: i did
[22:25] <okner> dufa: I followed the directions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/137444/is-there-anyway-to-enable-system-wide-inverse-scrolling
[22:25] <okner> dufa: Because the cursor doesn't work right out of the box.
[22:25] <Jstthe01> Can anyone help me with this alfa problem,supposed to work out the box and does sometimes but sometimes will only connect and show good signalbut willnot surf web pages
[22:25] <guntbert> jak2000: how about you try to update/upgrade the system before trying to install/uninstall anything?
[22:26] <okner_> back
[22:26] <okner_> dufa: I followed the directions.
[22:26] <Tex_Nick> Jstthe01 : in terminal you might try lsusb to see if your device is listed ... then paste the output of dmesg to http://paste.ubuntu.com & post the link here & reask your question
[22:27] <Jstthe01> I have updated and upgrades everything but stillhas problems, says has great signalconnection but will not load web pages somestimes it will and somrtimes it wont!
[22:28] <Jstthe01> I would but right now I
[22:28] <okner_> Is there any way to get rid of tap touch pad for click on Ubuntu?
[22:28] <rmoore> anyone have any experience getting *buntu or linux in general on a Dell Latitude D800?
[22:28] <dufa> okner: yes, you can do it in the system setting
[22:28] <rmoore> I'm having a terrible time getting the nvidia-96 driver to work.  It keeps coming up with "package dependecies unresolved" messages.
[22:29] <okner_> I looks like Ubuntu is not meant to work with macbooks.
[22:29] <rmoore> further inquiry resulted in my learning that I apparently need xorg-video-abi-10 but it's "uninstallable"
[22:30] <Jstthe01> I wouldbut rightnow I'm on a argh WINDOWS laptop,I refuse to not use Linux but the adapter is working great with windows and not hardly at all with linux, I realized it is suppposed to already have the newest driver in the brand new linux kernal but not seeming to work for me
[22:30] <rmoore> youve got a dell d800 as well jstthe01?
[22:31] <r0d3r1ck> Anyone know why a bootable USB flash drive with Ubuntu 12.04 on it would spontaneously become unbootable?
[22:31] <okner_> I think the Ubuntu developers should work on cursor functionality.
[22:32] <okner_> Make the windows move with the cursor and make the cursor and scrolling improved.
[22:32] <Jstthe01> no its a dell latitude d530
[22:32] <hakin9> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and don't wish to upgrade to 12.10. I use Gnome 3 shell version 3.4, I would like to upgrade to version 3.6. Is it safe to do so?
[22:33] <okner_> At least the scrolling and cursor, you think that would be asy, the window moving thing may be hard.
[22:33] <xangua> hakin9: you wish to upgrade but you don't want to upgrade, what a contradiction :)
[22:34] <usr13> Jstthe01: Won't load websites?  Sounds like a DNS problem.
[22:34] <spacecase> What's the difference between the normal 64bit iso and the 64+mac iso?
[22:34] <rmoore> no one with any idea about my nvidia issue?
[22:34] <hakin9> Why?? I don't want to upgrade distro just Gnome shell
[22:34] <usr13> Jstthe01: tail /etc/resolv.conf
[22:35] <hakin9> :0
[22:35] <hakin9> :)
[22:35] <xangua> hakin9: then you would need to upgrade gnome and then the gnome programs and so you'll need to upgrade your distro version
[22:36] <Jstthe01> Yeah I know,heard about it in many threads just dunno how tofix,sometimesit wll work ok just extremely slow, its connected to this WIN laptop now and working great sad to saay
[22:36] <dean_> Hi I was wondering if someone could tell me if the galaxy nexus 7 is able to be used as a mass storage device I can use my galaxy s2 phone but when I plug my nexus 7 tablet in it don't do anything?
[22:37] <kostkon> dean_, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[22:37] <k1l_> dean_: no i cant. mtp is the thing that replaced the mass storage device
[22:38] <dean_> k1l_, Have you found a way around it at all? I could try wirelessly between devices but kies is samsung only
[22:38] <k1l_> dean_: you can use mtp on ubuntu. but its not that easy as on windows so far. see the link kostkon gave you
[22:39] <Jstthe01> I know without the output it will be hard to help so im gonna try and seee how its working now on the linux box and come back with the info
[22:39] <dean_> k1l_, I am using an older version of ubuntu
[22:39] <dean_> and looking at the page I dont have issues with my S2 at all
[22:41] <xangua> dean_: if it's wirelessly i use Airdroid when i am in a hurry; you just need your android and pc to conect the same network
[22:42] <dean_> xangua, Airdroid can that be used between android devices too?
[22:46] <eboy> What happened to maverick???? http://91.189.91.13/ubuntu/dists/
[22:46] <xangua> !eol | eboy
[22:46] <eboy> thanks
[22:47] <spacecase> I have a macbook pro 8,2 how can I get ububut 12.10 to boot via EFI?  There's so many different instructions online, I can't tell which are up to date, nor can I get it to work.  I've gotten as far as getting to grub2 via efi, but I can't figure to how actually start ubuntu
[22:48] <murder> how can I possibly force vermagic to load modules without matching magic versions?
[22:49] <dr_willis> spacecase:  i tend to find the info at askubuntu.com more up to date. Or at least its normally dated so you know exactly how old  they are.
[22:49] <TT079> hi
[22:49] <dr_willis> Hello
[22:51] <okner> How do I tell the Ubuntu developers to fix problems with Ubuntu?
[22:51] <dr_willis> !bug | okner
[22:52] <okner> dr_willis: What if they try to say the bug is a "design choice"?
[22:52] <randomuser44> AFter windows is installed it removed grub bootloader, what is the best guide to follow to get it back?
[22:52] <dr_willis> !brainstorm | okner
[22:53] <dr_willis> Then its not a bug.
[22:53] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | randomuser44
[22:53] <dr_willis> randomuser44:  i tend to use a live cd and the 'boot-repair' tool mentioned in those guides.
[22:53] <okner> dr_willis: for example I'd call not having responsive and smooth scrolling a bug.
[22:55] <okner> My headphone jack is not working. I have a 2010 macbook and Ubuntu 12.04.
[23:00] <eboy> xangua: I feel like I should still have extended server support
[23:00] <eboy> xangua: Nevermind that's lucid :]
[23:07] <L8D> Hello! I need help!
[23:07] <L8D> #xfce sent me here.
[23:09] <TheLordOfTime> L8D, you need to give details on what you need help with
[23:09] <TheLordOfTime> we can't help you without details.
[23:09] <L8D> Okay, I was just waiting to see is someone was online
[23:09] <L8D> Well, I'm in xfce4, and I have the gnome-globalmenu-xfce installed
[23:09] <bekks> L8D: Currently, 1591 people in here are online ;)
[23:10] <L8D> And well, the menu doesn't show anything at all.
[23:10] <L8D> And there is no prefences option on right click
[23:12] <bjrohan> Can anyone give some pointers on installing Mac 10.8 on virtual box? I followed instructions, ran Hackboot1, installed, then shut system down, pointed to Hackboot2, restarted, and up came the O/S put in my credentials, surfed the web, downloaded MultiBeast 5.2, tried to install it but it gave me an error. I shut down the system, tried to restart, and it says no boot medium. How do I point VB to the right area?
[23:12] <OerHeks> bjrohan, it is not legal to run mac osX in virtualbox, afaik
[23:13] <bjrohan> ahh
[23:13] <dbrom> hello anyone here
[23:13] <dbrom> anyone using more then two monitors on kubuntu
[23:14] <L8D> dbrom: What is the probelm
[23:14] <L8D> problem*?
[23:15] <dbrom> im trying to setup four monitors on kubuntu 12.10 64 bit
[23:15] <L8D> Can you?
[23:15] <dr_willis> what video chipsets?
[23:15] <L8D> Or is it mirroring or something.
[23:15] <dbrom> have three but two are clones of each other
[23:16] <dbrom> Nvidia 580 Ti
[23:16] <dr_willis> You have a single video card with 4 monitor outss?
[23:17] <dbrom> single with two splitters
[23:18] <dbrom> at the moment the chat window is being shown on two monitors
[23:19] <dr_willis> You did enable twinview?
[23:19] <dr_willis> ive never tried more then 3 monitors. :) and that was with 2 video cards.
[23:19] <dbrom> yes but that just extends the screen correct
[23:20] <bekks> dbrom: two splitter like 1 input and 2 outputs?
[23:20] <dr_willis> Im not clear on exxactly what you want then..
[23:20] <dr_willis> You either extend the monitor. or use clones. or seperate X sessions for each monitor.
[23:21] <dr_willis> ive never seen a 'hdmi' video splitter. ;) unless its a special cable for those cards to allow more monitors.
[23:22] <dbrom> i have two outputs on the card (DVI) I am splitting each output with a splitter to allow the four moniors to be connected.... the thing is that I am getting one two displays one on one onitor and the second on the other two...
[23:22] <dbrom> id like to have a desktop across all four
[23:22] <bekks> dbrom: Do you use signal splitters or some more intelligent stuff splitters?
[23:23] <dr_willis> so you have 2 pairs of monitors - both are cloning
[23:23] <dbrom> yes
[23:23] <jak2000> when i try access to: cd /var/lib/mysql show me a Error Message: "Permission Deneied"  i try with: sudo cd /var/lib/mysql   but show me thesee rror: sudo: cd: command not found   why? need format or unmount or? thanks
[23:23] <doubledubba> I've installed the unity-webapps-youtube package, but the youtube webapp won't start when I go to youtube.
[23:23] <doubledubba> Does anybody else have this issue or have any suggestions?
[23:23] <dr_willis> twinview is what i enable to have one big huge wide/tall desktop across several monitors
[23:24] <randomuser44> lol broke grub..it boots to error: no such device: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[23:24] <randomuser44> grub rescue>
[23:24] <bekks> jak2000: sudo -i     -- then do you stuff, then exit the root shell using "exit"
[23:24] <dbrom> twinview works with two not four
[23:24] <dr_willis> jak2000:  'sudo cd' makes no sence. because once the cd command exits.. you would be back to your normal user rights.
[23:25] <The_ManU_212> hi
[23:25] <dr_willis> dbrom:  ive used twinview with 3 monitors.. Its possible the drivers dont support a 4 monitor big desktop.
[23:25] <The_ManU_212> i bought a dvb-s2 usb device pcstar 460e which should be supported well since kernel 3.2
[23:26] <dbrom> driver suppouts four monitors
[23:26] <The_ManU_212> i cant get it configured with tvheadend sicne im getting the error "disecq setup failed error: -1"
[23:26] <jason> n
[23:26] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: what do i need to get twinview with 3 monitors?
[23:26] <oal> I have a core i7, and I want to enable the builtin gpu, as I have no other gpu. System settings says "Driver: Mesa GLX Indirect", which is wrong. Any ideas how to enable the Intel gpu?
[23:27] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  i just plugged them all in.. and ran nvidia-settings.. this was a year+ ago.
[23:27] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: what do you have for a graphics card?
[23:27] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  I had issues with it loseing the setting at each reboot..
[23:27] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: what was the reason?
[23:27] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  on that setup - I dont recall  8800 and one on the MB.
[23:27] <mick_> What is the point of Long Term Support, given that one can just upgrade to the latest Ubuntu?
[23:28] <UltimaKR> hi can anybody help me with my lubuntu install?
[23:28] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: can you play accelerated games fullscreen using all threee devcies at once?
[23:28] <dr_willis> id get 3 monitors working. then when i rebooted. have to rerun nvidia-settings
[23:28] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  never really tried it with games. I used it for watching videos on one monitor mainly
[23:28] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: so it was one big screen with two graphiccards but both from nvidia?
[23:28] <dr_willis> I cant even imagine what game would use/need 3 monitor wide desktop
[23:29] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  yes. one video card handled 2 moniotors.  the onboard handled a 3rd
[23:29] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: ever heard of staregy games or a great first person shooter?
[23:29] <The_ManU_212> there it does make sense
[23:29] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:   as i said.. i cant imagine those needing the feature..
[23:29] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: i didnt thought that this works with one xserver
[23:30] <UltimaKR> sometimes in a game the monitors do not actually show the game, but rather menus or some sort of UI that assits (like items or spell bars)
[23:30] <dr_willis> The_ManU_212:  and ive done the old  quake tweaks to have a wide view. :) just made me dizzy
[23:30] <dr_willis> and irecall some RTS on windows that had a minimap on the 2nd monitor..  dosent seem like a real poplar feautre.
[23:30] <dr_willis> I use it for watching videos as i chat. ;)
[23:30] <The_ManU_212> dr_willis: thats normal after a while it will get better like switching from 17" to 27"
[23:30] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: can you help me with an error I am getting in my lubuntu install?
[23:31] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  tell the channel the error and lets see who can help.
[23:31] <UltimaKR> "The creation of swap space in partition #5 of scsi1 (0 0 0) (sda) failed."
[23:31] <UltimaKR> since when did I even have partition #5? lol
[23:32] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  You could add a swap partion or file later.
[23:32] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: so what do i do to fix the error? if i click ok will the install proceed anyway?
[23:32] <RandomFloat> hi all
[23:32] <UltimaKR> RandomFloat: hello :)
[23:33] <RandomFloat> May I ask a question?
[23:33] <TheLordOfTime> RandomFloat, just ask
[23:33] <TheLordOfTime> no need to ask to ask.
[23:33] <UltimaKR> RandomFloat: you just did :P
[23:34] <agsel> I have 32GB harddrive. in the beginning I allocated 6GB to opsystem. then there is 2gb swap/extended partition. the rest 24GB is free. can I somehow extend my 6GB by that 24GB?
[23:34] <RandomFloat> Oh :P
[23:34] <RandomFloat> Inception :P
[23:34] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  or use gparted and set up the partions how you want beforhand. and use the 'somthing else' part of theinstaller to define exactly what partions get mounted where
[23:34] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  it could be somthing weird with how your hd is partioned.
[23:34] <mick_> Can someone please explain what is the point of Long Term Support, given that there is always the alternative of simply upgrading to the latest Ubuntu? Sorry for the dumb question.
[23:35] <RandomFloat> But, is there a way to play audio through the terminal on an ubuntu server?
[23:35] <dr_willis> agsel:  you could delte teh swap partion. resize the 6gb. then put swap at the end.. is one way
[23:35] <dr_willis> !info moc | RandomFloat
[23:35] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: i just got the drive...this computer is kinda dead until i put the lubuntu on it (it cannot handle windows XP with its miniscule RAM)
[23:35] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  id check how its partioned then.  somthing may be confuseing it in how its partioned.
[23:35] <SolarisBoy> cmus is nice too RandomFloat
[23:35] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: should i remove the drive and attempt to examine it on this computer?
[23:36] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  the most basic partioning  scheme would be / and a swap partition
[23:36] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:   how much ram is on the thing?
[23:36] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  and how big is the hd?
[23:37] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: 256 MB....this is kind of my pet project, not planning to use it as a main PC or anything...the HDD is 160 GB, which probably means 137GB as that is the max allowed by the bios
[23:37] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: that's why i picked lubuntu as opposed to the regular ubuntu
[23:37] <shaolin77> Hey Everyone, looking from some advise on upgrading a video card on old box.
[23:37] <RandomFloat> SolarisBoy: do I need to install other packages too?
[23:38] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: is this a ubuntu question? because if not then i am probably more capable of answering it lol
[23:38] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  it pop in a puppylinux live cd. and partion it how you want. then retry the ubuntu installer.
[23:38] <shaolin77> well I'm running Ubunto 12.04 64bit on it :)
[23:38] <SolarisBoy> RandomFloat: installing cmus or mocp using the apt should pull in any deps required
[23:38] <dr_willis> UltimaKR:  that little ram. may not run lubuntu well either
[23:39] <RandomFloat> Ok, thank you.
[23:39] <Tex_Nick> mick_ : system administrators have enough work to do providing hand-holding support ... lts means they only have to upgrage their PC's evryy few years
[23:39] <shaolin77> but I guess it shouldn't really matter
[23:39] <UltimaKR> dr_willis: what does puppylinux do as opposed to my lubuntu CD?
[23:39] <shaolin77> I just want to some input from the community before going out and buying a new card
[23:40] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: what do you want to know? and what card do you have now?
[23:40] <jay_why_bee> agsel: easiest solution is to partition that 24G how you need it and mount it.  You could create a 24G /home.  Or break it up so /var is its own 10G and /home is 14G.  Like that.
[23:40] <Tex_Nick> micK_ : if a company has a hundred or more PC's release upgrades can take substancial time
[23:41] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: also I should probably have asked what the specs are of the computer using it
[23:41] <shaolin77> I was given a older box for free (XPS 400) which was running windows XP at the time.   Naturally I wiped it and installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit and its running like a champ
[23:42] <shaolin77> specs:
[23:42] <shaolin77> Processor: Intel® Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz × 2
[23:42] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: yeah windows xp might have been too demanding for it
[23:42] <shaolin77> Ram: 4GB Ram
[23:42] <shaolin77> Video Card: Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE (512MB) /PCIe/SSE2
[23:42] <shaolin77> Hard Drive 250
[23:42] <FloodBot1> shaolin77: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <UltimaKR> @FloodBot1: he isnt doing anything wrong lol
[23:43] <dbrom> ill set all four up and see what happens... the thing is the way its acting it will clone the second monitor
[23:43] <jak2000> jay_why_bee any advice?
[23:44] <jay_why_bee> jak2000 I missed the question
[23:44] <UltimaKR> shaolin: let me take a look at the card and see if i can find anything compatible but that won't bottleneck your system
[23:44] <shaolin77> Great Thanks for your help
[23:44] <shaolin77> I know this is an older rig...so I dont want to spend $$ on it
[23:44] <jak2000> when i try access to: cd /var/lib/mysql show me a Error Message: "Permission Deneied"  i try with: sudo cd /var/lib/mysql   but show me thesee rror: sudo: cd: command not found   why? need format or unmount or? thanks
[23:44] <bekks> jak2000: sudo -i     -- then do you stuff, then exit the root shell using "exit"
[23:45] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: i know what you mean...i am trying to fix up my Dimension 4300 for a grand total of $0
[23:45] <UltimaKR> could you tell me what your power supply is? i don't want to recommend a GPU that you cannot run in the first place
[23:45] <shaolin77> the power supply is 375W
[23:45] <jimmy_> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[23:46] <shaolin77> I would like to stay with Nvidia if that helps narrow it down
[23:46] <jak2000> bekks done thanks
[23:46] <shaolin77> I was looking at possibly a Nvidia 440 or 450
[23:47] <shaolin77> someone game me a $30 gift card to Best Buy should I can use that also to minimize the cost of buying a new card
[23:47] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: ok, keeping it nvidia should probably make the drivers more simple to do and you might be more familiar with that anyway
[23:47] <UltimaKR> i found this link that lists the hierarchy of cards: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html
[23:47] <UltimaKR> maybe if you check it you can see how high of a tier you would like to go
[23:48] <UltimaKR> the left column is all nvidia, middle for AMD, and right for intel
[23:49] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : you might get a better deal from www.newegg.com ... even considering the gift card ... also if you're not in CA you won't pay sales tax
[23:49] <shaolin77> good suggestion Tex_Nick!
[23:49] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: oh yeah when you look at that, only check the ones under "discrete"...the "Go" ones are meant for laptops
[23:50] <UltimaKR> would you mind telling us your price range? that would help a lot in determining what to look for
[23:51] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : I purchase several hundred dollars worth of equipment per month from newegg ... they are good to deal with
[23:52] <UltimaKR> newegg is a great site, actually just bought a computer tool kit from them...most things (especially larger items) come with free shipping
[23:52] <shaolin77> within $100, like I said this is an older rig. Any higher than $100 would not be worth it
[23:54] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600030348&IsNodeId=1&name=NVIDIA
[23:55] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : $100 price range ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600030348%204027&IsNodeId=1&name=%2475%20-%20%24100
[23:55] <shaolin77> thanks
[23:56] <shaolin77> Just need to narrow it down a bit more, due to the power supply only being 375W and also the type in CPU
[23:57] <agsel> jay_why_bee: I thought of mounting 24GB, but I don't know how much space I need for home, var etc
[23:58] <agsel> so, I will try extending my main partition
[23:58] <agsel> dr_willis: how do I delete swap partition?
[23:58] <agsel> or anyone else, how do I remove swap partition?
[23:58] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : on newegg ... look at the options in the left side of the page ... you can filter your options there
[23:59] <bekks> agsel: use swapoff to deactivate it.
[23:59] <prawnsalad> hey guys. i have a webapp with a comodo certificate. i have a few users on ubuntu 10.04 having issues with that one certificate.
[23:59] <prawnsalad> how can i find out if that version of ubuntu was allowing certificates by comodo?