[00:05] <Azelphur> do any of the banks support android NFC payments yet
[00:07] <daftykins> i kept reading articles about Google Wallet messing up, is it still going?
[00:07] <penguin42> your sure you're not safer with bitcoin?
[00:09] <Azelphur> penguin42: haha, who knows :P
[00:10] <daftykins> hah
[00:10] <daftykins> that's typical, all the 'merchants' on Google's UK site are their US ones ¬_¬
[00:21] <ali1234> i use google wallet all the time
[00:22] <ali1234> anyone who buys from google play does
[00:22] <ali1234> or is that separate?
[00:23] <ali1234> oh thats google checkout
[00:23] <daftykins> yeah we're more thinking of NFC payment at tills in shops i think
[00:24] <daftykins> one of my friends has one of those cards you wave at tills for <£15 or so payments, think that's the value anyway
[00:24] <daftykins> that's pretty neat, not sure what stops another customer nearby from picking up your bill though :>
[00:24] <penguin42> daftykins: It's supposed to be very close - almost but not quite touching I think
[00:25] <dwatkins> Not long until 2015, the year we start 'thumbing a couple hundred bucks' according to Back to the Future II...
[00:25] <daftykins> i was in the states in summer, definitely helped walking around with that much often :>
[00:52] <ali1234> well, the orange one is the only one i know of that works with your mobile
[05:02] <Ubuntu> hello
[11:53] <bigcalm> Ahoy
[11:56] <bigcalm> What might resolve this error in python? glib.GError: no element "v4l2src"
[12:09] <popey> you don't have a video4linux2 source?
[12:10] <popey> your webcam driver provides a v4l source? not v4l2?
[12:10]  * popey shrugs
[12:10]  * bigcalm grumbles at things
[12:10] <bigcalm> This all works just fine on my Ubuntu workstation
[12:10] <popey> oh
[12:11] <bigcalm> And I have proved that the webcam works on the RPi via Camorama
[12:11] <bigcalm> Get yourself one of the touch screens and you too can beta test this poop app I'm making ;)
[12:12] <bigcalm> Actually, the touch screen isn't relevant until the very end I guess
[12:15] <popey> is it debian squeeze?
[12:15] <bigcalm> Um, maybe?
[12:16] <popey> http://blog.pixelami.com/2012/06/raspberry-pi-firmware-update-for-debian-squeeze/
[12:16] <popey> "The original Debian squeeze img contains a kernel that does not have v4l2 configured. However the latest firmware for the Raspberry Pi does include a recompiled kernel with v4l2 support added.
[12:16] <popey> "
[12:16] <bigcalm> I got it off of the raspberrypi.org site
[12:16] <bigcalm> Oh
[12:24] <bigcalm> I'm not sure what version of Debian it's running. I've only had it installed for a week tops
[12:24] <bigcalm> Is squeeze the latest version or is it sid?
[12:25] <bigcalm> Ah, wheezy according to the rpi download page
[12:26] <penguin42> bigcalm: Sid is always unstable and is never a release
[12:27] <bigcalm> I see
[12:27] <bigcalm> I wish they would use numbers like sensible distros ;)
[12:27] <penguin42> bigcalm: I think squeeze is current, Wheezy is next
[12:28] <bigcalm> I got my image from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[12:31] <popey> look in /etc/debian_release i think
[12:31] <popey> it should tell you
[12:31] <popey> also /etc/apt/sources.list might clue you in
[12:31] <bigcalm> Aye, tis Wheezy
[12:45] <bigcalm> Thing is, all modern webcams use UVC. This is a PlayStation Eye (fairly recent I think). Why would v4l(2) is used at all?
[12:46] <penguin42> bigcalm: Part of v4l is drivers part of it is a common API for 'get me a camera'
[12:47] <penguin42> bigcalm: So I think v4l should actually have the uvc driver bound to it
[12:47] <bigcalm> I see, makes more sense
[12:50] <bigcalm> Time to go to town and let Hayley pick a new fountain pen ink
[12:50] <bigcalm> I shall grumble some more about this over lunch
[13:20] <penguin42> pick an ink???
[14:19] <popey> reddit users.. if i subscribe to a subreddit, what does that do?
[14:51] <mgdm> popey: means that when you go to the front page, you'll see its posts in among the stuff there
[14:52] <popey> ta
[14:52] <popey> i never go to the reddit front page
[14:54] <mgdm> I only set up an account to unsubscribe from /r/atheism and /r/adviceanimals on the occasions I do look at the front page
[14:57] <popey> hah
[14:57] <popey> oh, if you unsub, it removes them from your front page?
[14:58] <mh0> As far as I know, yes
[14:58] <mgdm> Yes
[14:58] <mh0> Long time no speak in here - heh
[16:07] <dwatkins> yeah, there's a list of subreddits added by default, popey, such as /r/videos and /r/pics
[16:08] <popey> ta
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> I don't like football usually.. but I love how John Green plays FIFA :) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9ECE36CB2EB2FE3E
[16:14] <solarcloud_3scrn> MartijnVdS, I hear the gunners weren't even playing !
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: watch those videos :) The "Swindon Town Swoodilypoopers" vs the world ;)
[16:15] <solarcloud_3scrn> I've no batteries for my headphones atmo.   but I'll book mark it ..
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: he invents back-stories (and new names) for players, and answers questions from viewers/talks about random stuff
[16:17] <MartijnVdS> solarcloud_3scrn: and the real Swindon Town noticed: http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/archive/2011/12/29/Swindon+News+(swindon_news)/9443534.We___ve_won_the_cup___/
[16:18] <solarcloud_3scrn> T'anks for the description .. as I said , I can't hear, Soooo.. I'm installing skype for Typetalking..
[16:18] <dwatkins> John Green is awesome, so's his brother. I may be biased, as I met John and he liked my t-shirt because it has the number '42' on it.
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I've been reading his book, and watching their videos (they have a lot of them..)
[16:19] <solarcloud_3scrn> Anyone flattr'd the ukpodcast team yet , tis year ..
[16:19] <solarcloud_3scrn> or any other flattr's for that matter      ??
[16:19] <solarcloud_3scrn> **this year ..
[16:20] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: which book? I've not read any of them yet, I must admit.
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I started with The Fault in Our Stars (prepare for tears), and now I'm reading Looking for Alaska
[16:21] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: thanks, I assume you also enjoyed it
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: yeah, it's a great story. But lots of feels :)
[16:25] <solarcloud_3scrn> Any terrible Nerds out there for gaming .. got a book off agaming forum about an 80's kid from thre UK .. who wnt all the way to silicon Valley .. called '  Terrible Nerd '  .. I'd like lo find him on http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/sydunim  .. but don't know his user name (O Well)....
[16:28] <solarcloud_3scrn> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55128914/Attachments%20Email%20Xchat/Question%20about%20Doom3%20%20-%20Yahoo%21%20UK%20%26%20Ireland%20Answers_files/Terrible%20Nerd.jpg
[17:09] <dutchie> evening
[17:10] <sprmtt> evening
[17:38] <solarcloud_3scrn> evening
[17:49] <Nambarc> Hello?
[17:50] <penguin42> is it us you're looking for?
[18:07] <penguin42> obviously not
[19:11] <Neoti_Laptop> hi all im looking for a visio style program for ubuntu?
[19:17] <czajkowski> Neoti_Laptop: what kind of diagrams do you need to draw
[19:18] <Neoti_Laptop> network layouts.
[19:18] <czajkowski> http://pencil.evolus.vn/ works nicely
[19:19] <Neoti_Laptop> ah cool thanks... :)
[19:59] <ecarv-> Hi
[21:00] <penguin42> popey: Were you saying something about G+ doing odd things the other day - I'm finding my front page isn't showing your latest post (after reloading it) but if I click on you I get it again, but back to the front page doesn't
[21:02] <popey> yeah, it was being odd for me too
[21:02] <popey> but so were other sites
[21:03] <popey> so could be down to the virgin media poxy
[21:03] <penguin42> popey: I'm on Demon/Thus
[21:23] <solarcloud_3scrn> popey, What hashtag (if any ) did you attempt to use with the G+comm post ?? .. and don't say you didn't hashtag the postr !
[21:31] <Azelphur> does anyone know if we have a way of doing NFC payments in UK yet besides the special setup with orange?
[21:51] <penguin42> hwy is it a special?
[22:05] <cocoa117> how do you set your Gnome/Unit desktop file creation default group? e.g. on a desktop, right click mouse, create new file, how do I make newly create file's group to say users
[23:32] <penguin42> popey: Hmm interesting; specifically on G+ - your ginger beer and 7:25 ostrich pillow have disappeared from my front page, but your T430 and dodgy looking meat post ar ethere
[23:41] <mrgt> can't get my screen resolution right. when I increase the resolution my monitor displays "no signal". running ubuntu 12.10 and have an Asus monitor
[23:43] <penguin42> what resolution is it happy with, have you had it happy with any other ubuntu at full resolution?
[23:44] <mrgt> it's at 1280 x 800. it was higher before though. I think it changed after I was playing a game..
[23:44] <AlanBell> what is the native resolution of the monitor?
[23:45] <AlanBell> and is it hdmi or dvi or vga?
[23:47] <Azelphur> Anyone know anything similar to pyrenamer, but with more features? :P
[23:47] <mrgt> 1920 x 1080. it's connected via vga
[23:47] <penguin42> mrgt: Have you tried rebooting since running the game?
[23:47] <solarcloud_3scrn> Ithink poppey's in Y!ahoo gnome at mo. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/search/search_result;_ylt=AoY81BF.joLnD1pVY.TxJTBJBgx.;_ylv=3?page=1&p=Ubuntu+gnome&scope=all&fltr=uk_&question_status=all&date_submitted=all&category=0&answer_count=any&orderby=date&filter_search=true
[23:47] <mrgt> yeah
[23:47] <ali1234> mrgt connect it by hdmi, dvi-d, or display port
[23:48] <ali1234> what graphics card do you have?
[23:48] <penguin42> ali1234: Well it should manage it on vga, I run my 1920 over vga on one laptop
[23:48] <mrgt> erm.. but I didn't have it connected that way before and I had a higher resolution ..
[23:48] <ali1234> penguin42: i bet it looks terrible though
[23:49] <penguin42> mrgt: Is it the only monitor connected to your system, and is your system as a laptop
[23:49] <ali1234> yes, and what video card?
[23:49] <mrgt> penguin42, it's the only monitor and it's a desktop
[23:49] <penguin42> ali1234: Yeh it's not as crisp as DVI but with the laptop I'd rather have the extra pixels and screen real estate
[23:51] <mrgt> ali1234, it's NVIDIA
[23:51] <ali1234> did you install nvidia driver?
[23:52] <mrgt> ali1234, how do I install it?
[23:52] <ali1234> it's really uneccessarily hard to find it on 12.10
[23:53] <ali1234> but basically you open a terminal and then type "software-properties-gtk"
[23:53] <ali1234> then go to the last tab "additional drivers"
[23:54] <ali1234> you should have a few options for which nvidia driver to use. which one is selected?